1 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to the favorites of the podcast. Part of the 2 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: Volume Podcast Network item Chad Meulman of The Action Network. 3 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: Let's get right to it. We're going to bring in 4 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: my cost my companion, Mike cam Padre, my BFF Professional Better, 5 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: Simon Hunter et O Simon. 6 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 2: More Football Chat. Let's get to her brother. 7 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: This week across the nation, Simon. NFL teams commence a 8 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: decades old right of summer, the return of training camp. 9 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: We've talked about quarterbacks on this show recently, playoff teams 10 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 1: we think will populate the NFL postseason fantasy moves, and 11 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: today you and I were going to talk about the 12 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: biggest questions and issues we hope to see resolved by 13 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: the end of training gamp. But we can't do it alone. 14 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 1: To do this, we are welcoming on one of our oldest, dearest, 15 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: most respected friends in the business, the original original og, 16 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: host of the Action Network podcast and the Big Bets 17 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: on Campus podcasts for the Action Network, the Prime Minister 18 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: of Degenerate Nation. Not going to sleep again until April. Folks. 19 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: Welcome back, Stucky, Yo. 20 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 3: What's going on? Thanks for having me, guys, Good to 21 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 3: see you again. Good to be talking football. 22 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 2: Again. 23 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 3: Just recorded the kickoff episode for Big Bets on Campus 24 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 3: college Football. It's just an overwhelming it's just starting out. 25 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 3: It's an overwhelming kind I'm like, I have all these 26 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 3: college football teams, and then I'm like, then I said, 27 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 3: aside time for NFL. And then I'm like, wait, am 28 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 3: I forgetting this about? Have I looked into this? And 29 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 3: there's just not enough that you can know this time 30 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,559 Speaker 3: of the year. But it's still the calm before the storm. 31 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 3: It's only you're going to get crazier. So trying to 32 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 3: still find some quiet time when I can. But yeah, 33 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 3: it'll be here before we know it. 34 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 2: Can't wait. 35 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 4: The National Football League originated in the nineteen twenties in 36 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 4: rural America, then moved to the cities to flourish and prosper, 37 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 4: but each summer the game relives its heritage. Tiny college 38 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 4: towns across the country witnessed the first bloom of the 39 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 4: NFL season, and coaches welcomed back familiar faces. 40 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: First question the Dallas Cowboys, who I think will make 41 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: the playoffs. I think they could contend for the conference. 42 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,959 Speaker 1: I'm doing that in spite of their running back situation, 43 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: in spite of a curious hire to put it as 44 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: delicately as possible, in Brian Schottenheimer running an NFL team stock, 45 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: what do you think of questions being answered and will 46 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: we see questions answered during training camp regarding the Cowboys, 47 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: their running back situation and Brian Schottenheimer as a coach. 48 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, not a fan of the higher just a curious 49 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 3: off season a recent few years. Curious tole Dak looks 50 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 3: that'll definitely be worth keeping an eye on. But I'm 51 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,959 Speaker 3: not a fan of either Javonte Williams or Miles Standers. 52 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 3: I think they've proven that. I mean, maybe you get 53 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 3: a bump from Javonte Williams, but the fact that he 54 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 3: wasn't able to do anything in that Denver backfield, and 55 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 3: just relatively speaking to others too, that it's not like 56 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 3: they were other all pro running backs in the backfield 57 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 3: kind of troubling. So I think it's important that they 58 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 3: get something from their rookies, MafA indor Blue. So yeah, 59 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 3: that's something I think worth paying attention to. Now. Seanneimer 60 00:03:55,720 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 3: made some curious comments just about the learning curve of 61 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 3: the running backs and how the you know, the veterans 62 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 3: have the advantage, So maybe he's not going to give 63 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 3: them a fair shake. But I think in order for 64 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 3: them to have the best, you know, to reach their ceiling, 65 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 3: to have the best possible offense, it's one or both 66 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 3: of those rookies have to give them something. Whether it's 67 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 3: you know, blue and passing downs. If it's more MafA early, 68 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 3: I don't know if they're going to get that real shot, 69 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 3: but it's definitely something worth keeping an eye on. 70 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: Simon. We don't like the Brian Schottenheimer higher, We don't 71 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 1: like the running back situation. I don't know that that 72 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: matters in terms of how we're thinking about betting the Cowboys. 73 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 1: What could you see? What would you like to see 74 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 1: during training camp to make you feel better about the 75 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:46,799 Speaker 1: position we're taking on them. 76 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 2: I don't totally Brian are the My thing with Brian is, 77 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 2: like we've talked about, it just felt like so out 78 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 2: of left field, where you know, we talk analagem. If 79 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 2: they could have got vable, why would you not go 80 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 2: to get Rabele Like Jerry Jones has got the money, 81 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 2: he can outbid these other owners. But yeah, it's it's 82 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 2: an interesting move, but at the same time, it's an 83 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 2: offense that Dak's comfortable and that's what's the key. 84 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 3: To me. 85 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 2: It's like, okay, at least know the offense won't change 86 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 2: that much. You know, Miles Sanders looks like he's in 87 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 2: the best ship of his life. We see that this 88 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 2: time of year, people will post those type of things. 89 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 3: Everyone's always in the best shapely. 90 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, no idea, because it's like Miles's issue is not 91 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 2: being in incredible shape of being jacked. It's staying healthy 92 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 2: and on the field and you know, hitting the right holes. 93 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 2: So it's there's still to me to make questions at 94 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 2: their running back position that yeah, I'm hoping to find 95 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 2: out more, but we really won't know until the bullets 96 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 2: start flying. And to me out the gate, the fact 97 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 2: that they're going to Philadelphia, I love it for this team 98 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 2: because it's such a tone setter for the rest of 99 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 2: their season. If they can go in there pull up 100 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 2: that upset. Not that not just the confidence I'll give 101 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 2: to the team, but Brian himself, that's a huge deal. 102 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 2: So I don't know how much I'll learn in training 103 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 2: camp here, but that week one, I really do feel 104 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 2: like it sets the tone for this Dallas team for 105 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 2: the rest season. They get blown out, man, did they 106 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 2: have a rough road ahead of them because the season 107 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 2: just keeps getting harder and harder as it goes along. 108 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 2: For Dallas here they should. 109 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 3: Hire they should have hire Dion like it's already a circuit. 110 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 3: It's a circus there. Just just embraced the full circus. 111 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 3: I mean they brought Pickens in, which fits with the circus. 112 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 2: That theme. 113 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 3: We'll see if he's like bought in. That's another thing 114 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 3: to keep an eye. You probably won't know that until 115 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 3: until games. But that's something like how bought in his 116 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 3: piket's going to be because it's gonna have some opportunities 117 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 3: opposite of lamb. But uh, it's cowboys are always It's 118 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 3: a circus is down there right now? 119 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 1: Another circus follows him everywhere he goes. Aaron Rodgers to 120 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers. Chris Raybond has written about this for 121 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: six years. The slow descent into mediocrity of Aaron Rodgers 122 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: and the amount of attention that he gets and the 123 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: amount of expectations that follow because of what kind of 124 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 1: career he's had versus how he has actually performed are 125 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: not in concert. Simon, give me your take on the Steelers. 126 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: What do we think we will see in training camp 127 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: to make you feel good because I know you like 128 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: the Steelers to make the playoffs. 129 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. For me, what I'm looking for them training camp 130 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 2: is just you want to hear everything's all good with him, 131 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 2: that Arthur Smith offense, that he's comfortable in it. And 132 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 2: we need TJ in camp. Right, that's the big deal 133 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 2: for the Steelers. This camp is just is there no 134 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 2: distractions everyone in there? Because I know I get where 135 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 2: Chris was coming from, but he was a little early, right, 136 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 2: he won a couple MVPs because they did Draftward and eleven. 137 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 2: It sparked a new fire under Rogers. We've seen that 138 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 2: spark with him and he did feel that doubt last 139 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 2: year and he realized that Achilles, it's a lot different 140 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 2: coming back from that injury in your early thirties late 141 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 2: twenties than it is in your forties. So to me, 142 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 2: we saw that second half he was so much better 143 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 2: than he was early. He's especially pushing off that leg. 144 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,119 Speaker 2: So yeah, I just nine and eight with that team. 145 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 2: It just it feels right right that just another year 146 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 2: where Tomlin somehow gets them to nine or ten wins, 147 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 2: and you know that's we know the deal it's an 148 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 2: aging team. This feels like the last run for this 149 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 2: corps and it's gonna be a rebuild mode for the 150 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 2: next three four years for this Pittsburgh franchise. 151 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 3: Stuck. 152 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: Where are you on Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers right now? 153 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 3: I don't think anyone really knows, like what level you're 154 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 3: gonna get? That's yeah, I think it's it. Seven brings 155 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 3: up a good point. Does he embrace the Arthur Smith 156 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 3: offense and he's kind of just doing his own thing 157 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 3: and he gets rid of the ball so quick. I'm 158 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 3: curious to watch the offensive line there too, though, But 159 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 3: I think he's could potentially be an upgrade for what 160 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 3: they have had in recent years. Effort tour since Big 161 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 3: Ben has left. But how much of last year was 162 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 3: the injury and how much was it his age? And 163 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 3: then there's another year, so how much more will his 164 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 3: age impact versus him being another year free clear up 165 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 3: the injury that I don't think anyone knows. So it's 166 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 3: definitely one to keep an eye on. Yeah, the Steelers, 167 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 3: I mean they run at Tomlin's on how does it 168 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 3: keep happening? But Voodoo I don't know. I mean the 169 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 3: Steelers since two thousand and eight, they're sixty two and seven. 170 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 3: When they win the turnover battle, they win like ninety 171 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 3: percent of their games. The rest of the NFL when 172 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 3: they win the turnover batle it's like seventy ish percent. 173 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 3: Since twenty nineteen, after Big Ben left, they're plus fifty 174 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 3: turnover margin. They're the only team that has a positive 175 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 3: turnover margin every single season. The Chiefs, for example, a 176 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 3: team you think of usually good. They're plus ten over 177 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 3: that same span. The Steelers in one possession games, they're 178 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 3: forty three twenty and one since twenty nineteen. This is 179 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:51,079 Speaker 3: what they do. They win all the close games. They 180 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 3: win the turnover battle. That's where I think Rogers fifths 181 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 3: well Sky one of the lowest interception rates in NFL 182 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 3: history to turn the ball over, which is good. I mean, 183 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 3: the only team better on one such gets steals in 184 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 3: nineteen the Chiefs. They just passed the Steelers because they 185 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 3: went what eleven and zero one session games last year. 186 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 3: So yeah, I don't know. I think it's wait and 187 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 3: C mode until we get into the live games. But 188 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 3: uh yeah, it feels like the Steelers are just inevitably 189 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 3: going to be nine and eight for eternity where they 190 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 3: need to not be for like one year. They need 191 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 3: to they need to find their solution at quarterback, which 192 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,559 Speaker 3: they haven't done since big Enough. I mean, like their 193 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 3: long term solution their franchise quarterback, and they need to 194 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 3: have just I think eventually they need to have a 195 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 3: bad year or get to it really lucky and take 196 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 3: a stab at a quarterback. I mean, the Ravens got 197 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 3: Lamar at thirty one. 198 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 2: That's going to say that that's what Pittsburgh's paying for 199 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 2: that miss on Lamar like he was so Pittsburgh. The 200 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 2: fact that the Ravens do what they do, they came in, 201 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 2: they got them at the end of that first I 202 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 2: just I feel like it's it just changed the scope 203 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 2: with that division for the next ten fifteen years. Like 204 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Tomlin apparently loved them, the GM didn't. There 205 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 2: comes a Raven swooping down take them. I just that 206 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 2: whole storyline to me is so magical, where you just 207 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 2: see how the two franchisees have gone. One team always 208 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 2: think they're going to super Bowl, the other teams happy 209 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 2: to get nine and eight. So it's crazy. 210 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, go ahead, step I was just gonna say, 211 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 3: I've been the Ravens have won a Super Bowl since 212 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 3: it's twelve either, But I mean they feel they're so 213 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 3: much closer. But like, if I'm a Steelers fans, you 214 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 3: could argue both sides, like are you just tired of this? 215 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,319 Speaker 3: Like Tomlin? He's so good at what he does, but 216 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 3: are you just tired of the tom and speaking tired? 217 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 3: They don't want to playoff game in what eight years? 218 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 3: But like, then again, you're always Sundays, You're like in 219 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 3: the mix, right, So because Sunday, who wants to go 220 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 3: through two years where you're not in the mix. So, 221 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 3: but it just feels like they just need to they 222 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 3: need a reset to get back into that mix. Now 223 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 3: maybe this is the time, right, Like I don't know, 224 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 3: but this this does feel like the last Serrah, or 225 00:11:58,240 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 3: it should be. 226 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 4: There's glory in the legends of this hard muscle life, 227 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 4: and there's poetry in each season made of sweat and stripe, 228 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 4: But now is the time to work and strain of 229 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 4: a sport that tests the spirit and challenges the brain. 230 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: There are four quarterback situations. They're not even controversies, they're 231 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: just what is the worst of a bad situation? The Saints, 232 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: who might have the worst quarterback room in NFL history. 233 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 1: They're basically deciding between a twenty five year old second 234 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: round pick who's a rookie and a not that much 235 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: younger sixth round pick, second year player who performed terribly 236 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: last year in their quarterback room. The Giants drafted a 237 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: quarterback high in Jackson Dart in the first round, but 238 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: really they signed Russell Wilson and Jameis Winston to be 239 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: the starting quarterback this year. The Browns, we all know 240 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: what they did with Dylan Gabriel, dr Sanders, but Joe 241 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: Flacco might be the starting quarterback. And then in Indy 242 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 1: we've got Daniel Jones and Anthony Richardson Simon. Of those 243 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: four situations, rank them for me from worst to less worst. 244 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 2: All it depends what we're looking for, you Like, just 245 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 2: this season, I guess, yeah, Saints probably are gonna be 246 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 2: the worst team, and you know they're they're in a 247 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 2: nice spot though. They if this kid starts he shows nothing, 248 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 2: Like you know, Rosen, you get the number one pick, 249 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 2: you just take another quarterback, You just keep shooting the shot. 250 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 2: So the Saints, if this kid's absolutely terrible, great, like 251 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,839 Speaker 2: they that whole their car thing, just put them in 252 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 2: the hole of holes. So I think everything is kind 253 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 2: of graver for them. But yeah, do I think will 254 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 2: be the worstest here. Of course, giants right there with him. 255 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 2: It's I mean, I know they're gonna do. They'll probably 256 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 2: start the VET. I hope Dark comes in. He's just 257 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 2: lights up in camp, right, I mean, he has so 258 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 2: much to work on. Just I mean, it's brutal because 259 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 2: it's they're in the probably the toughest division in NFC. 260 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 2: But just throw them to the wolves. Just see what 261 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 2: the kids made up. We see time and time again 262 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 2: either these kids can swim or they sink. And to 263 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 2: me they another late first round pick. Let's see what 264 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 2: Dart has. Yeah, the the Browns. I put them below 265 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 2: the Colts just for this upcoming year because of what 266 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 2: you talked about chat. It's like, is it Flacco does 267 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 2: he lose out to Shador? Does somehow Gabriel beat him out? 268 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 2: Like it's just so many unknowns that like they are 269 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 2: a team that I'm excited to watch them in the 270 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 2: training camp because they're going to be, in my mind 271 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 2: playing all those guys a lot, and they'll be fun 272 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 2: to bet on or bet against depending on how bad 273 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 2: these quarterbacks are. But yeah, that's the unknown. There is 274 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 2: insane where you know, the Colts of all these guys, 275 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 2: all these bad teams. We joked about it, there's a 276 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 2: world where the Colts can win their division. Like if 277 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 2: Daniel Jones comes in to this situation and makes it work, 278 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 2: it could happen. Like we've seen him when he's right, 279 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 2: when he can run the ball, he's pretty talented. When 280 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 2: he does zero time like he's had with the Giants, 281 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 2: burning that awful offensive line, he was terrible. So you know, 282 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 2: it's it's tough. But to me, I don't know how 283 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 2: Anthony Richardon beats out Daniel Jones if he's not healthy, 284 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 2: he's not practicing this upcoming training camp. So I just 285 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 2: feel like it's gonna be Daniels job to lose. So yeah, 286 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 2: I guess I'll have a right in the order you 287 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 2: put it in there, Chad Saints, Giants, Brown's Colts stuck. 288 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: Which one of these are UNI paid most attention to. 289 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: I mean, you think will have the biggest impact on 290 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: how you bet this season, both futures and during the 291 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: regular season. 292 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 3: The Steelers going nine and eight and Daniel Jones. We're 293 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 3: gonna be talking about those two things forever. I mean, 294 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 3: the Colts have to start Richards. I mean, we're seeing 295 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 3: his health. I don't know if they will, but see, 296 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 3: obviously it depends on his health. And that's something to 297 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 3: keep an eye for trading camp. But like you gotta 298 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 3: find out what you have with your high draftic like 299 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 3: Daniel Jones is going to win you a Super Bowl, Like, 300 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 3: you just got to find out and then figure out 301 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 3: if you got to pivot off there. By the way, 302 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 3: this is not the Saint's sonat the worst quarterback room 303 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 3: of all time. There's been some bad ones. Maybe it'll 304 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 3: end up any way, but at least there's some on 305 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 3: sertainty with Chuck. But I'll just I'll throw out a 306 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 3: couple just for fun. Danny Knell the ninety seven Giants 307 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 3: took over for Dave Brown. He averaged one hundred and 308 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 3: five yards per game over like ten games. The two 309 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 3: thousand Chiefs two thousand and seven Chiefs, it was a 310 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 3: hard knocks team. If you want to go back and 311 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 3: watch a bad Hard Knocks Brody Croyle versus Damon Heward. 312 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 3: That was the quarterbacks that year. Two thousand and one 313 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 3: Panthers you met. You mentioned Chuck's age. 314 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 2: Chad. 315 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 3: The two thousand and one Panthers went one in fifteen. 316 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 3: Chris Winky was their quarterback. He was thirty as a rookie. 317 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 3: I think you had to leve. I got to remember 318 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 3: that eleven touchdowns, nineteen interceptions they went one in fifteen, 319 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 3: and then you've got to get a Browns team in there. 320 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 3: Two thousand Browns, Tim Couch and Doug Peterson. I think 321 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 3: Spurgeon win started the game. They combined nine touchdowns, nine 322 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 3: and nineteen interceptions. That's as bad as it gets. But 323 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 3: I will say from a wind totals perspective, it's something 324 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 3: you want to keep an eye on, or at least 325 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 3: just be cognizant of. With the Giants, it's like I 326 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 3: think they're gonna start RUSS, but then they have a 327 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 3: really hard schedule. So if it goes downhill, but I 328 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 3: don't know, with like Dabo on his job, but I 329 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 3: don't know if they are, they then like, all right, 330 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:28,199 Speaker 3: let's just throw the kid out there, right, and then 331 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 3: you could end up losing more games. Your floor goes down. 332 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 3: So with these low win totals, that's something to keep 333 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 3: in mind. NFL teams don't tank. Every once in a 334 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 3: while you have a team and the Bucks came out 335 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 3: they did this one year and like a week eighteen, 336 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 3: you really want to lose for a draft pick. And 337 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 3: even then teams mess themselves up all the time. Giants 338 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 3: did it last year. They don't tank, but you could 339 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 3: just make decisions to Like the Browns, for example, very 340 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 3: low win total. I think they're gonna start Flaco. I 341 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 3: think he's the best option right now. But if the 342 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 3: brown season goes downhill, is a team that probably wants 343 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 3: to get a high draft pick. Again, I don't know, 344 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 3: but then they traded for two quarterbacks and draft the 345 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 3: two quarterbacks. But then you might just throw the kids 346 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 3: in there and see what you got, and then it 347 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 3: could be really bad, go from bad to worse. So yeah, 348 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 3: keeping an eye on all of them. But the most 349 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 3: interesting to me is is probably the cults. I just 350 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 3: as far as campus concerned, I want to see, like 351 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 3: where Richardson's at, how healthy he is, and what happens 352 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 3: with that situation. But like it's definitely something to keep 353 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 3: an eye with. The wind totals like that, something that 354 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:37,439 Speaker 3: I'm afraid of with the Browns, Like I showed a 355 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 3: little value and they're over But like I'm like, who 356 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 3: knows what ends up happening with these quarterbacks and then 357 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 3: their decision if they're sitting at three and ten or 358 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 3: four and ten, what they do in the last couple 359 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 3: of games. It's it's definitely something to keep in mind. 360 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 1: Well, look, we're talking about quarterbacks, and we're talking about 361 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 1: what they're going to look like in training camp. Obviously, 362 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 1: there has been a huge discussion about Ben Johnson joining 363 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: the Bears. Stuck you just talked about, you know, July 364 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 1: is the best shape of your life. He's going to 365 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: be a team leader season. How do you separate this? 366 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: We see Caleb, we see Ben Johnson. What can we 367 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:25,439 Speaker 1: possibly learn during training camp as an avid fan and 368 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: a season better and a veteran camp watcher who in 369 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: takes this information for real value? What will you see? 370 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 1: What would you like to see that won't just be hyperbole? 371 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean a lot of it is, first of all, 372 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 3: like interceptions and something like camps and can be a 373 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 3: good thing like this is when you're like starting to 374 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 3: figure out things that people overreact to that. But with Caleb, 375 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 3: it's going to come down to does he understand and 376 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 3: he's he willing to understand the structure and the logic 377 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 3: of the offense and make those easy throw the quick 378 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 3: reads going through his progressions instead of you know, he's 379 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 3: got to take fewer negative plays. 380 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 2: Now. 381 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 3: The offensive line is going to help with that. I mean, 382 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 3: I think they're probably the most improved offensive line in 383 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 3: the NFL. One of the reasons I'm pretty high on 384 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 3: the Bears for like maybe the first time since like 385 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:19,439 Speaker 3: the two thousands. His deep ball is something that I 386 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 3: want to watch, Like just the deep ball numbers, accuracy, 387 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 3: and that comes down to the footwork which needs to 388 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 3: be worked on the trust of the offensive line, and 389 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 3: but it's really there's eliminating those negative plays. Like you 390 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 3: still want him to have some of that improvisation, which 391 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,439 Speaker 3: is what you know made him great in college, and 392 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 3: you don't want to take that all away, but just 393 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 3: like fully understanding the offense, improving some of that footwork, 394 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 3: and then just really buying in and a lot of 395 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 3: that is just what you kind of have to infer 396 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 3: from some of the things you watch and read, and 397 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 3: you can't You're not going to figure it all out 398 00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 3: in camp and some of it's just going to be 399 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 3: like and there's gonna be a learning curve it So 400 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 3: we have to expect with Caleb and this new offense, 401 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 3: you're not going to learn at all this during camp. 402 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 3: But that's definitely what I'm keeping my eye on. Deep balls, 403 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 3: the footwork, the timing, and then just some of the 404 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 3: things I'm hearing. I think there's a lot of potential 405 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 3: there and a lot of it's going to fall on 406 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 3: Caleb because they've they've put everything around them. But give them, 407 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 3: Ben Johnson, they went out, they got the offensive line. 408 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 3: Now you have the weapons on the outside. Now there's 409 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 3: really no more excuses. It's time to put up a 410 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 3: shut up for Caleb. 411 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: Simon. What do you need to see or hear? I 412 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: know you don't like the Bears to make the playoffs, 413 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 1: but what do you need to see or hear to 414 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: give you indication there will be success in Chicago with 415 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 1: this duo. 416 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 2: Honestly, you really just wanted to see that he's picking 417 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 2: up the Offensecaleb like that. That's all that matters. Because 418 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 2: I told you this this year feels like it's a 419 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 2: year for or both of them to grow, right, It's 420 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 2: his first year coaching and Ben Johnson. It's Caleb's first 421 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,360 Speaker 2: year and real offense with a real head coach that's 422 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 2: gonna have him watch film and go over film with him. 423 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 2: Like it's going to be exactly what he wants and 424 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 2: he needs, right he wants to be pushed to the 425 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 2: highest level. So yeah, for me, there's gonna it's gonna 426 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 2: be tough because it's gonna be so much it's just 427 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 2: gonna be roses. Like your whole Chicago right now is 428 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 2: just so happy and in love with what they have. 429 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 2: It's gonna be tough to have a real beat writer 430 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 2: give real opinions on what's happening. But if Caleb's just 431 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 2: doing awful back to back days and camp and it's 432 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 2: still happening towards the beginning of the season, that's a 433 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 2: big deal. You want to see you know, early early 434 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 2: day struggles, no problem, right, I always say up until 435 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 2: August about twenty fifth, I don't really mind if quarterbacks 436 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 2: like Stuck you're talking about, they're throwing picks, if they're 437 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 2: if they're pushing the envelope because they're not tuning up 438 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 2: for the season. Once after that, once they're starting to 439 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 2: get ready for week one and the upcoming season. To me, 440 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 2: that's when it's becoming a problem because that really is 441 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 2: the off and so they're going to run for those 442 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,919 Speaker 2: upcoming games. So that's that's a team where the Bears. 443 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,199 Speaker 2: I won't be too checking in on them too much 444 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 2: early on, but before the season I'm going to be 445 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 2: reading a lot of what their be writers are saying 446 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 2: about how he's looking in the offense and if he's 447 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 2: grown throughout you know, August in this offense. So yeah, 448 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 2: it's a it's a big deal chat this upcoming season 449 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 2: are Kailer Williams. 450 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,919 Speaker 3: Sometimes no interceptions can be worse than like than a 451 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 3: lot in like camp and in early days like you're 452 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 3: not you're not taking risks, you're not kind of pushing 453 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 3: the envelope and figuring things out and trying to make 454 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 3: throws and seeing like but the deep ball is really 455 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 3: what I'm interested in, and then just how how he 456 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 3: looks like it that if he's grasping it or not. 457 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: Sam is not going to be checking on the Bears 458 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: because he's got a Bears, he's got an anti Bears bias. Now, 459 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: I like money, Well, the best way to make money 460 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: is not to lose money. 461 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 3: I'm past this year, Jem, what's that I'm pro Bears 462 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 3: this year. 463 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,120 Speaker 1: I appreciate that one of us will be right. Well, 464 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:06,400 Speaker 1: two of us are going to be right. 465 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 2: Stuck, though, what's what are you hoping for? Chad? Just 466 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 2: the playoffs? Loss? 467 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: Playoffs? Playoffs? I just want the Bears to make the playoffs. 468 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 1: I want them to build. 469 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 2: I can see now Bears going down to Tampa. There 470 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 2: you go. 471 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,159 Speaker 1: Honest to God, that's that's exactly what it could be. 472 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 1: I just want progress and success. I know Brandon Anderson 473 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: said it best. Growth is not linear, but I would 474 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:40,479 Speaker 1: like some growth, any kind of growth. Uh, speaking of 475 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 1: growth is not linear. I have been on the record 476 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 1: and saying that I think the most impactful off season 477 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: addition to any team could be Robert Salah rejoining the 478 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: San Francisco forty nine ers when they're coming off a 479 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: dreadful year with a lot of injuries. But I think 480 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: his bi to remake that defense could make them the 481 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: number one seed in the NFC. Stuck. How much of 482 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 1: a difference will Robert Salah really make? 483 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 3: I don't know about Will, but he can like they've 484 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 3: been since he left. I mean, you even saw when 485 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 3: he left. The Jets like their defense off He's a 486 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 3: really good defensive coordinator, and the forty nine ers have 487 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 3: kind of been searching for the guy and that identity 488 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:32,199 Speaker 3: since he left. So skimm and they're gonna need some 489 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 3: schematic help because they lost a lot of talent. They're 490 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 3: gonna need some young guys to step up. So it's 491 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 3: not Sale's not gonna be able to just come in 492 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,120 Speaker 3: and save the day. They're gonna need some They're gonna 493 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 3: need to stay healthy too. It's probably that's what doomed 494 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 3: them last year across the board on offense and defense. 495 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 3: But I do think it was a huge higher. They've 496 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 3: been searching basically for his replacement, haven't been able to 497 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 3: find it, and I think he's one of the best 498 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,400 Speaker 3: defensive coordinators. Maybe he's just not cut out for being 499 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 3: a head coach. It'll work out again in the future. 500 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 3: You know, you learn from things. But I think it 501 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 3: was a great hire. They're gonna need some there. There's 502 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 3: some talent lacking in certain areas if they don't get 503 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 3: some young guys to hit. But I think it was 504 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 3: as good of a hire as they could have made. 505 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: Simon, You're not as high in the Niners as I am, how. 506 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 2: Come because there's just so many unknowns about the Niners. 507 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 2: I the reason I'm on them in general, the fact 508 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 2: I'm betting them to make the playoffs is because there 509 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 2: is the talent there and they have the coaching there 510 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 2: In the schedule, like they have the schedule to make 511 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 2: the playoffs, Like to me, it lines up really nice 512 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 2: for them. Those upcoming season is four and aras team. 513 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 2: And that's my biggest question in training camp is these 514 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 2: last two years, the way they've drafted, they have to hit, 515 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 2: like they just they've been paying such top heavy guys. 516 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,199 Speaker 2: Now at this point they have to be hitting in 517 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 2: this draft and bringing him in it to me is 518 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 2: such a key, key deal. Like Sala, the different team 519 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 2: makes and improving guys defensively is massive and we've seen 520 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,679 Speaker 2: it time him again, like like we talked about that 521 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 2: drop off after he left the Jets was noticeable right away. 522 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 2: So to me, that's like we already nailed it. But 523 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 2: that could be the biggest ad of any defensive team, 524 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 2: is that him as a DC to that forty nine 525 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 2: ers team Like that, to me, all the moves that's 526 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 2: happened and any teams on like you know, teams at 527 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 2: any different players, their defense, everything like that. Adding the 528 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 2: right coach like him to a defense with young talent, 529 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 2: if he can build on that and coach them up, 530 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 2: it's gonna be huge for them because we talked about 531 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 2: like they're they're another team. They're all in right, Like 532 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 2: like McCaffrey, everything we've read, he's healthy, so to us, 533 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 2: we don't really have questions about their offense so much. 534 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 2: The questions for the forty nine ers right now is 535 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 2: just that defense. So yeah, big deal getting him back 536 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 2: there on the forty nine ers and excited to see 537 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 2: how they look at an upcoming camp right that's it's 538 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 2: gonna be pretty tony to see what they run in 539 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 2: camp because they probably won't run much in the games. 540 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 2: But seeing what he's gonna run, what style he's gonna 541 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 2: run for that defense, I'm excited to see because obviously 542 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 2: Fred Warner, he's the cog on the machine that makes 543 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 2: it all go. 544 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: The Cincinnati Bengals Joe Burrow. Everyone thinks he's amazing. Top 545 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: four quarterback with Lamar, Josh Allen, and Patrick Mahomes, at 546 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 1: least according to most. Maybe not Simon Hunter, but they 547 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: cannot get out of their own way when it comes 548 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 1: to contract negotiations. The Trey Hunterson thing has been downright 549 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 1: challenging what they're doing with Shamar Stewart, the first round 550 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: pick has been Bengal peak Bengals and does. 551 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,919 Speaker 3: Rumors he might go back to A and M and 552 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 3: he might challenge like the NCAA on legality. It came 553 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 3: out this. 554 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: Morning, Bengals incompetence so stuck. How does that like, what 555 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: does that foretell for you as a Lexington resident, Cincinnati 556 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: might be the closest NFL team to where you are 557 00:28:56,200 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: as a as a Midwestern Kentuckian football officionado, Can this 558 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: team get out of its own fucking way? 559 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 2: Yeah? 560 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 3: It is, since he's like an hour and a half 561 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 3: from Lexington Airport. I use sometimes. I mean the Bengals, 562 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 3: they they're gonna have gotta hope Al Golden comes in 563 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 3: and has a magic wand and schematically because yeah, they 564 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 3: I don't think they fix the defense. Defense Canna bad again. 565 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 3: They're gonna be a ton of shootouts. The state of 566 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 3: their defense just significantly lowers their ceiling. I mean, it's 567 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 3: what Barrow has done. He's not working with much I 568 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 3: mean his offensive line has been bad every year. It's 569 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 3: under pressure as much as any quarterback. That their run 570 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 3: game is always bad and their defense now is bad, 571 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 3: Like he has no help just as receivers. The other 572 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 3: thing is they paid both receivers. He paid Burrow and 573 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 3: they're just a bad They can't draft. They're so so 574 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 3: bad at drafting. Just a poorly run organization that happened 575 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 3: to hit on some obvious picks with the receivers and Barrow, 576 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 3: but they don't have much else. And now if you 577 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 3: don't have Hendrickson, I mean without Hendrickson last year they 578 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 3: were third dead last, and pressure rate dead last, and 579 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 3: completion percentage allowed dead last, and success rate dead last, 580 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 3: and passed dead last across the board. And I mean 581 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 3: he had what a third of the team's pressures. He 582 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 3: had seventeen and a half sacks back to back years. 583 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 3: You know, the only two players I've ever done that 584 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 3: are Reggie White and JJ Watt. Now he's not gonna 585 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 3: be there. Then you try to draft Stewart, who I 586 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 3: would even wasn't a fan of, he might not be there. 587 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 3: There's just questions across the board. 588 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 1: Well, look, that's the thing. 589 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 5: By the way they draft Stewart, who's a athlete looking 590 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 5: personified and had zero stats. 591 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: I spoke to a college a guy who used to 592 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 1: run a scattering department in the NFL, and I said 593 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: to him before the draft, what do you think of this? 594 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: He goes, college coaches are trying to win. They don't 595 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 1: build schemes to go against the best player on the field. 596 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: If the guy isn't producing and he's their best athlete, 597 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: there is something else going on there, and yet the 598 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: Bengals continue to get in their way. That was the 599 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: most Bengals pick, Stuck, You're nailing it. Are we all 600 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: being fooled by the fact they drafted Joe Burrow and 601 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: he masks over so many problems? Simon, I know you've 602 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 1: got a strong opinion on this. 603 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm appreciating with Stucky Sander. I feels like I'm 604 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 2: nailing my early picture that I just think they're an 605 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 2: easily fatable team because of what we talked about. Just 606 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 2: horrible offensive line and defense to me, is only going 607 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 2: to get worse, and they've just not addressed in any 608 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 2: way in the draft to improve that defense. And you know, 609 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 2: to me, Stucky, this is your division of your fandom, Like, 610 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 2: wouldn't you rather take Pittsburgh at a plus number to 611 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 2: make the playoffs and take the Bengals at a plus 612 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 2: number to miss the playoffs if you're a bet and man, 613 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 2: rather than taking them both at minus numbers the Pittsburgh 614 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 2: and missed the playoffs and Bengals to make I just 615 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 2: I think it's really people flip flopped it because of 616 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 2: Joe Burrow. Like we talked about, he's just he's likable. 617 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 2: The general public views him as a top five quarterback. 618 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 2: He's a proven winner because of what we saw him 619 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 2: do in college, making the super Bowl year two. But 620 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 2: I've said to Chad, he's not done a single thing 621 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 2: since that Super Bowl run, right, And you could say, well, 622 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 2: he's at injuries. That's true. And guess what. They just 623 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 2: wasted a healthy year of Joe Burrow last year. And 624 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 2: that's another thing that just jumps out to me. It's 625 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 2: like they just they hit on they hit on it, 626 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 2: and they got lucky because he lasted behind that offensive line. 627 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 2: Now they have another year with their defense might have 628 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 2: gotten worse and they didn't improve that offensive line. So yeah, 629 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 2: it's I'm just so down this team. It's not a 630 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 2: Joe Burrow. Think it's just the team as a whole. 631 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 2: I think they're in too tough a division to be 632 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 2: this bad throughout, you know, defensively an offensive line. 633 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you pay Burrow like that's you. That's when 634 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 3: you can go for it as a team like the Bengals, 635 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 3: he had him on his rookie contract to pay them. 636 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 3: They're not able to address. They're not able to draft, right, 637 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 3: So like these really elite teams that end up having 638 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 3: to pay the quarterback, which is something I always I 639 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 3: like to watch in camp, is in order for these 640 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 3: teams to stay elite, Like do you have an elite quarterback, 641 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 3: you're gonna be good like the real elite teams. But 642 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 3: the Chiefs, the Ravens, the Eagles, Right, they're able to 643 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 3: draft really well, and that's how they're able to plug 644 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 3: some of the holes. Like look at the Eagles, they're 645 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 3: all the questions two years ago were about that their 646 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 3: secondary and their secondary fell off a cliff, right, they 647 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 3: went in the draft, announce it and hit like the 648 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 3: Ravens their secondary campaign as many guys. If we'll see 649 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 3: if they do with Starks, but they've hit on some 650 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 3: guys that have just kept their team elevated. The Bengals 651 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 3: aren't able to do that. There's such a bad drafting 652 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 3: team and they're so poorly run. And you look at 653 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 3: their roster, top five quarterback, top five receivers, what about 654 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 3: the rest of the roster, what other groups where you 655 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 3: like they might all be bottom ten, the rest all 656 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 3: the all their other position groups are bottom ten. And 657 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 3: the failures of drafted offensive lineman over the years, I 658 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 3: mean that's going on decade plus. Uh, there's just so 659 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 3: many holes throughout this roster. Yeah, I mean, if they're 660 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 3: gonna need the rookie guards to hit, Stuart to want 661 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 3: to play, sign Hendrickson al Golden does some magic, and 662 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 3: then they're just gonna need some close game variants. Like 663 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 3: that's the story for the Bengals this year to get 664 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 3: to the playofs because they're gonna be a shootouts. They're 665 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 3: gonna be in games with everybody. But it's hard to 666 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 3: see that defense and offensive line being good enough to 667 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 3: you know, make a deep run in the playoffs. And 668 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 3: that's if like all these other things go right with 669 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 3: the offensive line, with Stuart, Hendrickson and Golden having a 670 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,760 Speaker 3: positive impact. So yeah, it's probably another year of Bengaling. 671 00:34:56,120 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 1: Last question, Matt Mitchell's favorite team, the Buffalo bill are 672 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 1: against their will being featured on Hard Knocks. The Bears 673 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 1: had that problem last year, The Giants had that problem. 674 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 1: The Jets were cursed with a Hard Knocks season. 675 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 3: Wait, is that true? They can just force you to 676 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 3: do it? 677 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,439 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, if you've never done it, they can force 678 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: you to do it. 679 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 3: Wow. I didn't know. 680 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, totally, And so the Bills are being forced to 681 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: do it. Should we look at this as a curse 682 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 1: for the Buffalo Bills? 683 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 3: Stucky, I'm just looking forward to creating. I always love 684 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,839 Speaker 3: watching Hard Knocks. When's that start? When's the episode one? 685 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 3: It's usually like I feel like it's like the first 686 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 3: week of August, like August six, you'll. 687 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 1: Be the first week of August. They got to get 688 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 1: some weeks in there. 689 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's and it's always like, Okay, NFL is right 690 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:57,320 Speaker 3: around the corner. The first time, is Shriver still doing 691 00:35:58,480 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 3: I believe he does. 692 00:35:59,480 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 1: Yes. 693 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 3: When I hear his voice the first time, I'm like, 694 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 3: all right. By the way, I watched a decent like 695 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:10,800 Speaker 3: this is a good Hotel Plane movie with Led Schreiber. 696 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:16,439 Speaker 3: It was called a human Capital, it's pretty good, not great, 697 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 3: but it was entertaining. 698 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 1: Well, I'm getting on a plane in twenty four hours, 699 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 1: so I'll totally check it out. 700 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:24,360 Speaker 3: Human Capital. Yeah, But quest about the Bills. I'm just 701 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 3: looking for watching and then getting screenshots and means of 702 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,839 Speaker 3: Sean McDermott terrorist means for things that he might say, 703 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 3: so I can take out a context. That's really what 704 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to. But the Bills. By the way, 705 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,879 Speaker 3: the Bills talk about turnover regression or plus twenty four 706 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 3: last year, does that swing back the other way? It 707 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,399 Speaker 3: was best of any team in twelve years. What I'm 708 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:51,880 Speaker 3: watching for the Bills, though everybody eats, is their slogan 709 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:53,800 Speaker 3: on them. But I'm still curious about the wide receivers. 710 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,760 Speaker 3: The main thing is their secondary how that comes together 711 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 3: with the rookie, how the safeties come together to Bishop, 712 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 3: and just how that all works. I think that's probably 713 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,319 Speaker 3: the two questions you have with the Bills this year 714 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 3: going into this year is and then what happens with 715 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:14,840 Speaker 3: Cook But they're their defensive backs and then wide receivers 716 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,799 Speaker 3: is what I'm interested to watch, but mainly try to 717 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,240 Speaker 3: get some McDermott memes. 718 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 1: Simon, are you concerned for Matt Mitchell and the Buffalo Bills. 719 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:29,720 Speaker 2: I mean, what curse? They've ember won a Super Bowl, 720 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,360 Speaker 2: so what is there to curse? I mean in their mindset. 721 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 2: I'm just saying, as a Bills fan, it can't get 722 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 2: any worse. They've been through hell and back, so it's like, 723 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,360 Speaker 2: you know, I don't think a curse that people bestow 724 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 2: from them is scary as them. They're above a curse 725 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,800 Speaker 2: at this point, like they they know the deal. Josh 726 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 2: Allen knows the deal. Like we talked about it that 727 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 2: he was happy to win the MVP last year, but 728 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,360 Speaker 2: you can tell he's like, I'm sick of going to 729 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 2: sports psychologists and talking about Patrick Mahomes to conquer this mountain. 730 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 2: And that's what this season lines up for perfectly. They 731 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 2: have the easiest schedule. I think any professionally talk to 732 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 2: thinks they have the easiest schedule in the AFC. You know, 733 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 2: sure shocked the world, New England might do it, or 734 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 2: justin Fields in the Jets. Something crazy could happen. But 735 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 2: there's a reason they're over minus two hundred to win 736 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 2: their division. Right now. It's it's the Bills year. It's 737 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 2: lined up, So to me, I am excited to watch it. Right, 738 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 2: we all love Josh Allen. Excited to see more camera 739 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 2: time in because he's kind of like this goofy, weird 740 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 2: kind of dude, Like he says some funny shit when 741 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:34,759 Speaker 2: he does talk and open up like he to me, 742 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,799 Speaker 2: has always been a very funny guy, even if you know, 743 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 2: if you're an old part of my take fan, they 744 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 2: had him on before the draft and immediately you're just like, fuck, 745 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,719 Speaker 2: this dude's really likeable. I hope my team drafts from LID. 746 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 2: Did we know he was going to be some day 747 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,399 Speaker 2: of the MVP and the best player ever? So yeah, 748 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,440 Speaker 2: I'm excited for Hard Knocks. I'm happy they picked the 749 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 2: franchise like the Bills. No no disrespect to you know, 750 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:59,240 Speaker 2: Chicago or the Giants, but those are organizations that aren't 751 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 2: the best to run organizations. Right. They've both kind of 752 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 2: had faltered here these last five ten years. But the 753 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 2: Bills they're on the up and up, so it'd be 754 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 2: cool to get a peek behind the curtain to see 755 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 2: what kind of team they are in this upcoming season. 756 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I will say that the I just mentioned the 757 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 3: drafting the Bills like their defense really fell off and 758 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:20,359 Speaker 3: has really cost them in playoffs. So what do they 759 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,400 Speaker 3: do you know for their five free agent signings on 760 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 3: the defense and first five picks in the draft on 761 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,400 Speaker 3: the defensive side of the ball, Like they have you 762 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,640 Speaker 3: have Josh Allen and you have a good offensive line. Yeah, 763 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 3: you have the offense figured out, it's all about that defense. 764 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 3: Are these draft picks, these free agent signs can to 765 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 3: hit that something that I'm looking to watch And you 766 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 3: mentioned the Bills. Yeah, there's a reason they're having favorites 767 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,239 Speaker 3: during the division. The schedule sets up so nice for them. 768 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 3: They are all they're hard. Games are at home. There's 769 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,879 Speaker 3: no back to back road games and the Bills at home. 770 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:52,320 Speaker 3: Last three years, they've lost one game at home in regulation. 771 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 3: I wonder if our producer Bills fans can remember the 772 00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 3: game they lost to the Broncos twenty four to twenty two. 773 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,759 Speaker 3: And like Russell Wilson, you remember this camping was like 774 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,720 Speaker 3: two years ago, Mitchell, Well. 775 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 1: Look now we got a lot more to look forward 776 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:10,399 Speaker 1: to for training camp. By hoping to God we can 777 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 1: cross our fingers against the Buffalo Bills. 778 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 3: Get a raven shout out. I'm watching one thing I'm 779 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,880 Speaker 3: watching for the first time forever. A new kicker I 780 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 3: gotta see. We got to see this. A rookie kicks, right, 781 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 3: and a new kicker in Baltimore. It's gonna be very 782 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 3: weird to like, I feel like every other team now, 783 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 3: although Tucker had fallen off the last year or two, 784 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 3: but for so long, I'm like, oh, Tucker's coming out automatically. 785 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,239 Speaker 3: You know you're gonna make anything under fifty. Now I'm 786 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,840 Speaker 3: going to a rookie kicker, Like I have the anxiety 787 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,319 Speaker 3: of every other team, every other fan base that's had 788 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,680 Speaker 3: for years that I've taken for granted. 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