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Speaker 1: You may have noticed that I changed around the intro.

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Speaker 1: the last episode and what you're hearing right now. Jason

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Speaker 1: Delgado resigned from doing the podcast earlier this week. He's

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Speaker 1: working on some other endeavors. I believe he might even

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Speaker 1: after a very long hiatus shooting um the show on

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Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen. Uh Ian Scott O here, I'm in

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Speaker 1: This is my first time meeting you myself. So okay, UM.

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Speaker 1: I grew up in Pennsylvania, Southern Pennsylvania, in Lancaster County.

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Speaker 1: you guys are doing. It really goes along with with

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Speaker 1: just who I am and you know all my my

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Speaker 1: past experiences. UM. I'll start with when I was going

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Speaker 1: through the Q course at Bragg. We lived off post

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Speaker 1: and um, I went in one morning, go to pt

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Speaker 1: and I love my wife. We had a couple of

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Speaker 1: small kids at the time, and uh, she wished me

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Speaker 1: well I left. She was almost asleep when she heard

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Speaker 1: somebody trying to break into the house. And because we

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Speaker 1: had talked, and because she grew up actually in Staten

436
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Speaker 1: Island and she didn't grow upround firearms. But when we

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Speaker 1: were dating, her attitude was kind of like, well, I

438
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Speaker 1: kind of like you. I guess I'll tolerate the firearms.

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Speaker 1: I guess I'll tolerate you taking me to the range.

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Speaker 1: And then um, when we were married, it was the

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Speaker 1: same attitude, and I guess I kind of like you

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Speaker 1: I kind of want this marriage thing to work, So

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Speaker 1: I'll put up with and I'll tolerate the firearms in

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Speaker 1: the house and and and learning how to use them

445
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Speaker 1: and stuff, just because you're so insisting in it. So

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Speaker 1: I'm gone five three years. So in the morning, and

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Speaker 1: she hears the noise, and because I had worked with

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Speaker 1: her and because we had talked about stuff, she immediately

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Speaker 1: knew what to do, and she grabbed the Mossberg shotgun

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Speaker 1: from underth the bed. She knew she had to get

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Speaker 1: out of the bedroom, and she had to walk down

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Speaker 1: the hall to be a barrier to prevent anyone who's

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Speaker 1: coming in the house and getting into the hallway and

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Speaker 1: possibly getting to our children's bedrooms. Um, and if they're

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Speaker 1: in the hallway, then she wouldn't even be able to

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Speaker 1: shoot because she'd be afraid to possibly missing them and

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Speaker 1: you know, and hitting that the children's bedrooms. So she

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Speaker 1: walked on down the hall, and luckily for her and

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Speaker 1: luckily forward for them. Um, they had a lookout looking

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Speaker 1: through one of our windows into the living room and

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Speaker 1: saw the hallway and saw this piste off, red headed

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Speaker 1: woman walking down the hall with a shotgun. He yelled,

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Speaker 1: and she heard them take off and run, so she

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Speaker 1: post herself there, got out on the phone, called nine

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Speaker 1: one one, waiting for the cops to arrive, and uh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: the door they're trying to get in was open, And

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Speaker 1: basically if she would have hesitated at all, it would

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Speaker 1: have been a very different morning because they were they

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Speaker 1: were the doors open, they had already made their entry.

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Speaker 1: They could have you know, who knows what would happen.

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Speaker 1: So with that experience, I became pretty passionate about teaching

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Speaker 1: and m and preparing people. I finished the Q course,

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Speaker 1: was active with with fifth group, and I came home

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Speaker 1: to Pennsylvania on leave and a buddy of mine knew

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Speaker 1: I was their friend from you know, growing up, and

476
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Speaker 1: he said, hey, man, you you're a green break. Can

477
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Speaker 1: you meet me this range and show me some stuff?

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Speaker 1: So I agreed and I met him there, but he

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Speaker 1: told a friend, who told a friend who told a friend.

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Speaker 1: So I show up expecting me and my budding is

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Speaker 1: me and like ten of the guys. So was the

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Speaker 1: very first kind of like impromptu class where I started

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Speaker 1: teaching these guys. So then it just became a habit.

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Speaker 1: Every time I came home with pass or leave, I

485
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Speaker 1: would contact him or some other people and we would

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Speaker 1: get together and and I'd teach the stuff. I realized

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Speaker 1: there's a huge vacuum in that area in Pennsylvania. There's

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Speaker 1: a lot of really good instructors and companies teaching n

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Speaker 1: RAY stuff, and that's good for what it is, but

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Speaker 1: as far as like more advanced stuff, there's a pretty

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Speaker 1: big vacuum there. So late two thousand ten, I decided

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Speaker 1: to take a chance, created the company incorporated and started

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Speaker 1: doing all logistical work to build UM in preparation for

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Speaker 1: me leaving active duty. And I left July of two

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Speaker 1: thousand twelve, and then when I got back with the

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Speaker 1: rest of two thousand and twelve getting stuff set up,

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Speaker 1: and then two thousand thirteen is when we really started

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Speaker 1: building the Rockwell classes and started teaching. And since then

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Speaker 1: every year we've just the talk more classes, UM talk

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Speaker 1: more variety of stuff. I started at first is just

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Speaker 1: a lot of soft guys, a lot of my buddies

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Speaker 1: who are helping me, and then UM the past couple

503
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Speaker 1: of years and started reaching out to to other people.

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Speaker 1: So now we have some law enforcement working for us UH,

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Speaker 1: some marines working for us I, even you know lowered

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Speaker 1: myself from got an army ranger. Now you know, working

507
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 1: with us, he's he's a really good dude. Um, but

508
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Speaker 1: just try to you know, to grow the company and

509
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Speaker 1: become more well rounded. So that's kind of you know,

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Speaker 1: how we started. Yeah, that's interesting. I mean, the story

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Speaker 1: with your wife is absolutely crazy, but it's interesting that

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Speaker 1: it took that to make you want to go into

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Speaker 1: the field because it's actually a pretty natural fit. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we have so many guys on the podcast to our

515
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Speaker 1: former stop and then do start these training facilities, so

516
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Speaker 1: it's like a natural thing to do. But I guess

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Speaker 1: maybe that was like the kick in the ash that

518
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Speaker 1: I could do a good job at this, because you know,

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Speaker 1: you're training someone from absolutely no experience to being able

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Speaker 1: to handle a worst case scenario, and that's that's really

521
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: what it was. Um with that experience, I became very passionate.

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Speaker 1: We're all citizens of the greatest country on earth, and

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Speaker 1: just because I've have this background and Uncle Sugar is

524
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Speaker 1: paid for my training, doesn't mean I'm better than than

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Speaker 1: anybody else. So that's you know, you read our catchphrase

526
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Speaker 1: that our principal based training. That's we're trying to teach

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Speaker 1: her these correct principles, and I'm trying to get good

528
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 1: training out the good people because if and when that

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Speaker 1: moment arise in someone's life, like my wife, I want

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Speaker 1: them to be able to handle it. I want them

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Speaker 1: to be able to, you know, defend themselves and defend

532
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 1: their loved ones. My wife that morning, even though she

533
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Speaker 1: didn't have to shoot, she experienced combat in a very emotional,

534
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 1: um psychological, and very physical way. Um similar to anything

535
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 1: I've experienced it overseas. UM. She luckily didn't have to

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Speaker 1: pull the trigger, but but she would have if those

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Speaker 1: guys would, if she would have sold them that hadn't

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Speaker 1: been a lookout. She was ready to just start pumping

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Speaker 1: and clicking in and you know, let need that threat.

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Speaker 1: What you were saying about the n ra A instructors

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Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania, I could relate because I am, by no

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Speaker 1: means like a big firearms guy. But I own a

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Speaker 1: shotgun because I live on Long Island and I'm actually

544
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Speaker 1: allowed to do that. I don't live here in the city. Um.

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Speaker 1: So this was prior to being with Soft REP. You know,

546
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Speaker 1: I just I wanted to make sure I was at

547
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Speaker 1: least sufficient on the very basics. Got an n RA

548
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Speaker 1: a instructor, took a couple of classes and then was

549
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Speaker 1: good to go. The interesting thing for me, though, was,

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Speaker 1: you know, this guy definitely knew his ship, was able

551
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Speaker 1: to show me, you know what to do in terms

552
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: of the basics, but look not like a fit guy

553
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: by any means. And and then starts talking about well,

554
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Speaker 1: if you need to clear a room and blah blah.

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Speaker 1: And I'm starting to think to myself because this is

556
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Speaker 1: prior working at software, but I did know some soft

557
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: guys just who I knew from radio, And I feel like,

558
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Speaker 1: unless you've been there and you've done that, I don't

559
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Speaker 1: that you're not really the type of person I want

560
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 1: to hear from on that because you don't really know

561
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Speaker 1: how you would react in that scenario. You're probably just

562
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: repeating something you heard from someone who is an actual expert.

563
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Speaker 1: Like I want to go to that extent with training.

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Speaker 1: I want to hear from you or Jeff Gonzalez or

565
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: our friend Jason Delgado. Those are the guys who could

566
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Speaker 1: tell me, you know, what you could do in those scenarios.

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00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: I would think, yeah, absolutely, yeah. I feel like that's

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Speaker 1: why it's important to have the background that you do

569
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Speaker 1: to train people with the proficiency that you do well.

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Speaker 1: One of the things I've I've done too is i've

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Speaker 1: once it was join on with I started volunteering and

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Speaker 1: teaching at at CEPHALIC, which I don't know if you're

573
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: familiar with that. That's the Special Forces Advanced Urban Combat

574
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: UM and we hold that three times a year. So

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Speaker 1: I started, you know, already knew how to do stuff,

576
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: but but going there and you learn so much more

577
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Speaker 1: as an instructor. So I started learning more stuff, more

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Speaker 1: things there UM and I I was able to do

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Speaker 1: it a couple of times a year, so I was

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Speaker 1: with that experience, I've taken some of the classes. Some

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Speaker 1: things we do is teaching people, you know, with example

582
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Speaker 1: my wife, how to clear rooms and how to defend

583
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Speaker 1: themselves in case there's a home invasion. The smartest thing

584
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Speaker 1: usually to do is to stay put in a room,

585
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Speaker 1: and you know that's probably the safest thing to do,

586
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: but they're different circumstances. Like with my wife, there are um,

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Speaker 1: you know kids, you need to get to those bedrooms,

588
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:17,959
Speaker 1: you need to take care of those kids. You need

589
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Speaker 1: to protect your your your loved ones. So there's a

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Speaker 1: time and a place for that. Civilian to move. And

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Speaker 1: that's what I've done, and that's what some of our

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Speaker 1: classes have done. We've taken those principles that I've I've

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Speaker 1: learned on the operation side, and then we've applied them

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Speaker 1: to you know, as an individual, how a person can

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Speaker 1: clear their home or how a couple i e. Husband

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Speaker 1: and wife can can work together to to safely clear

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Speaker 1: to their house. And that's exactly what you know, what

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Speaker 1: you're saying that, that's what we've done with a lot

599
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Speaker 1: of our classes. Try to take that real world experience

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Speaker 1: and things we know that work in that environment and

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Speaker 1: then tailored and tweak it a little bit to to

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Speaker 1: work in a civilian environment. Well said Man. So once again,

603
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Speaker 1: the website if you want to get trained by Jared

604
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Speaker 1: and your group, it's Rockwell Tactical dot com, Facebook dot com,

605
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: slash Rockwell Tactical at Rockwell Tactical on Instagram, and it's

606
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: wrapping things up here. I'd like to get some more

607
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: questions because people love hearing um from someone who really

608
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: knows their ship on weapons and asking the questions. So, um,

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Speaker 1: Donald Rutledge, do y'all use a number four shot in

610
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: the Mossberg? Uh? That's a good question. Uh. We well, well,

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00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: it depends, um, and what application talking about. If for

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00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: classes we use all sorts of stuff a bird shot

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Speaker 1: for a lot of stuff until we get specific for

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Speaker 1: patterning and some of the other drills. But for for

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00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: home defense use you know, there's a lot of different options.

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00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: Use what works best for you. Cool. Um, you know

617
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: it's funny someone is commenting on the darkness of the studio.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing a Power of Thought podcast with Brandon later.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully I can figure this all out. So I do

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Speaker 1: apologize once again for how dark the studio itself is

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Speaker 1: actually not that dark. It's the uh, it's it's the

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Speaker 1: settings on the camera. Um. But I'll see if there's

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Speaker 1: anything else coming in. Um. As you said, there's people

624
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: who know you on here, which is pretty cool. Um. Oh,

625
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: what's your favorite long range rifle? That's from Don Bonnet.

626
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: I'm not a long range guy. I've never been to sodic. Um.

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Speaker 1: We have a couple of guys that that that I

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Speaker 1: specifically have brought on Rockwell that teach long range stuff.

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Speaker 1: Everything that I've done has been CQB or or mid

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Speaker 1: range stuff. UM. So I'm I don't feel qualified to

631
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Speaker 1: uh to answer. Hey, this is the best thing out there. Okay, Well,

632
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Speaker 1: that's that's good. I think it's important to know what

633
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Speaker 1: your lane is. And and I mean, are there people

634
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Speaker 1: that you think are the go to guys? If if

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Speaker 1: Jason is one of them, he's he's really a guy.

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Speaker 1: Um and then yeah, I'll use his name. There's another

637
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 1: guy who's gonna say but but but he's a little

638
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: bit more protective than I am since he's still uh operational. Well,

639
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,719
Speaker 1: you do have people who might become clients. Because Nathan

640
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Speaker 1: Center is saying he's interested in classes. If you're in

641
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Speaker 1: the p A area, go for it. And he asks

642
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: do you do any other c QB training? Yes, we

643
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: do stuff that we've dedicated classes for law enforcement. We

644
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: do CQB training, Like I've said, a lot of different

645
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: classes one day to day, multiple days, um, with teaching

646
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: different principles of of CQB basically four you know, for

647
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 1: a husband and a wife or for defending the home.

648
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: I don't know of any specific laws, but there's there's

649
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,719
Speaker 1: a line there, the one that I'm not willing to

650
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: cross as far as teaching everybody. Um, I'm not going

651
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 1: to teach for man CQB just to everybody, I'll say

652
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: that for you the military, or for or for law enforcement.

653
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: So we primarily get into one and two man. You

654
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: know again, a husband and wife clearing and defending their home.

655
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: All right, you told me that I could go back

656
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 1: to it at some point, So as you're wrapping up

657
00:33:55,600 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: any good combat stories, I'll tell one go for teple

658
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: and and this is one that, um, if ever there's

659
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: a scene in my life that I want to see

660
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 1: in a movie, that this is it. This was a

661
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 1: rack and this would have been two thousand four, and um,

662
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 1: I was wasn't yet soft. I was still still eighty

663
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: sewod and um. We had set up an improvised blocking

664
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Speaker 1: position and it was just me and a couple of

665
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: guys in one humpy, another couple of guys in a humpy,

666
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 1: and we were basically had funneled people through and we

667
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: were checking out cars just randomly. And this was back

668
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: in the days when we didn't have at least we

669
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Speaker 1: didn't have gun trucks, we didn't have up armored. This

670
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 1: was like cargo hum vys with mad Max armor welded on.

671
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: And I had a saw and being the guy that

672
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: I am growing up reading all the the Vietnam books.

673
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 1: One of the things I learned from those old timers

674
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: in Vietnam is that some guys would have a twenty

675
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,280
Speaker 1: round our third round mag loaded with nothing but tracers,

676
00:34:58,320 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 1: like a team leader someone, so if they get into

677
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: f our fight, they use the tracers to you know,

678
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: to mark a target where everyone would direct their fire.

679
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 1: Just the technique. So me, being the crazy kid that

680
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: I was, I had my two hunter around saw drum

681
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,280
Speaker 1: and I had manipulated the rounds so like the first

682
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 1: thirty rounds was straight tracer, and then like every other

683
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: round was tracer, and then kind of um, near the

684
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 1: end of it, it was normal one and four, and

685
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 1: then like the last ten rounds again with straight tracers.

686
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: So I know the drum was just about out. So

687
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: I had this this drum and it was it was

688
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: dark out and um, it's kind of boring. Cars coming by.

689
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: And then about three up the road, some guys didn't

690
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: know we were there, and there was a car with

691
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Speaker 1: a driver and two shooters. The shooters got out, they

692
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 1: went into a cafe, and because there's so much going on,

693
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 1: we didn't see them either. And then they went a

694
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: cafe and assassinated somebody. So we heard the A K

695
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: rounds going off. We saw them jump in the car

696
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,760
Speaker 1: and that came cruising towards us. So then as they're

697
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 1: coming towards us, somebody else stopped. They didn't stop, so

698
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 1: then um, I lit them up with the saw. So

699
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 1: again it was like straight laser beams. Nothing of tracers

700
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: into the car. And so there's this big volume the

701
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: noise and then silence. And what was was crazy is

702
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Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys can see in there,

703
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 1: but that the humps were we're kind of set diagonal,

704
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 1: so there's a lot of noise and then no noise

705
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 1: in this car just slowly creeped by, shot up full

706
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: of holes, slumped over bodies, all the tracers burning inside.

707
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 1: So this orange glow and you just saw you know,

708
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: stuff dripping out of out of things as this car

709
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 1: slowly creep by, and all of us like you know,

710
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 1: just in ah, you know, holy crap. Is this thing

711
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: just slowly creep by then stopped at a at a

712
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: curb when it finally came to rest. Um so that

713
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 1: was that was that was pretty wild. I knew I'd

714
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: get a badass story out of you, man. I mean

715
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,320
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a lot of that. The epilogue to

716
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,280
Speaker 1: that one, the after stories. When we cleared the car,

717
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 1: there was an air freshener in there, and uh so

718
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 1: there was three holes and air fresheners and stuff on it.

719
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: So I might have liberated air freshman. I might have

720
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: put up my own car and occasionally had people who driving,

721
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: Hey do you smell? That was a smell like the

722
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: sniff and I don't know, orange no smells like death,

723
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: And uh, that's that's what I did. That's a that's

724
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: a nice little Um. I guess you would say souvenir

725
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: from pretty awesome time. Um. You know, we're also on Twitch,

726
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,280
Speaker 1: so I'll get to maybe one last question here unless

727
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: there's other good ones. By the way, it's brighter now,

728
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 1: so the sun came at Uh so you guys can

729
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: actually see what we look like. Uh the doughnut goon

730
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: who has been watching every time we're on Twitch, which wee,

731
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 1: which we appreciate. What do you think would be the

732
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: best set up for a patrol rifle? I work in

733
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: law enforcement and I'm looking to put a better kit

734
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: together instead of just a vanilla a r Oh, that's

735
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,280
Speaker 1: a good question. I know a lot of law enforcement,

736
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: a lot of departments, though it's dictated to them what

737
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: they can what they can't have. Um. But with the

738
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 1: patrol rifle, you definitely want a flashlight some kind and

739
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 1: and I won't get into specifics, whether you know a

740
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: surefire or something else. There's there's good flashlights out there,

741
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 1: but definitely get a flash right, Um, definitely get a

742
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 1: two point sling. I've used the Victors or the Blue Force.

743
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:11,399
Speaker 1: I've used the Proctor sling, and I dig the Proctorice sling.

744
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 1: I like that one. Uh, Frankie's a he's a pretty

745
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:18,879
Speaker 1: cool guy. And I've also used the v Tax sling

746
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: and they're all pretty much the same sling, just the

747
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: different flavor of the same type of thing. So you

748
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: get a good two point sling. I'm a really big

749
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 1: fan of the grip stop. It's the greatest hand stop

750
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 1: out there. And now maybe tomorrow someone might invent something better,

751
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,280
Speaker 1: but for the past couple of years, the grip stop

752
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:39,240
Speaker 1: is the greatest hand stop, hands down on a rifle

753
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 1: anymore anymore. Patrol rifles, the rifles themselves, they don't look

754
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 1: right unless you have a crip stop on it. Um.

755
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: So there's just a couple of things to do. It.

756
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,439
Speaker 1: Make sure you get um some kind of a flash hider.

757
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: I like Smith Vortex Online because it's it's a fighting gun,

758
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: it's a your patrol rifle. You're not gonna be using

759
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: it in competition, so there's no need to have a

760
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 1: break on it or something that's gonna the big um

761
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: ball of flame out there. So you get a get

762
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 1: a flash eighter, and on top of that, you get

763
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: a good red dot. UM. Of course there's the the

764
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,919
Speaker 1: A points are real popular. I've used an EO Tech

765
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 1: forever on my work guns. UM. I know they've got

766
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 1: a pretty bad you know, people are pretty you know

767
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 1: have they have a bad rep right now, and I

768
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 1: guess they're going away. But I haven't head any issues

769
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:28,959
Speaker 1: with mine though a lot of people have an issues.

770
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 1: But there's also there's a newer company called hollow Sun.

771
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 1: It's a foreign company, UM, and they make some some

772
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: okay optics and uh. On this last trip, I actually

773
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 1: had a hollow Sun that I was expecting to destroy

774
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: and we put it on some of our work guns

775
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,399
Speaker 1: and a lot of different guys on my team used

776
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,720
Speaker 1: it and just to test it out, and it actually

777
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 1: held up really well. Holly sun is very cost effective

778
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 1: to UM, so you'll get some kind of a site

779
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: like that. I was gonna say, as you as you're

780
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 1: talking sorry about the sun now all of a sudden

781
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,280
Speaker 1: being in your eyes, should I should I close these

782
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 1: as where you're right? I'm it, Okay, it's just funny.

783
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,720
Speaker 1: We went from being too dark now it's like super

784
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: bright man. We gotta we gotta get good lighting here. UM.

785
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: We have more questions coming in, so I figure we'll

786
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: get to them. Why not, um, Don Bonnett, best home

787
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 1: defense weapon, best home defense weapon, I'm going to cop

788
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: out on that. Your best home defense weapon is the

789
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: weapon you know how to handle the best. UM. At

790
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:23,919
Speaker 1: the time, the best thing for my wife to use

791
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,879
Speaker 1: was that that shotgun because she knew it the best. UM.

792
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 1: Now she's actually very comfortable because after that experience, she

793
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 1: was born again hard. So she carries all the time

794
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: and she's she's pretty good. UM. So now she actually

795
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 1: she would use her her pistol. She she likes an

796
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 1: m MP as well, so that's what she'd go for.

797
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: For myself, I would go for my A R. I

798
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,760
Speaker 1: know my a are better than than any other weapon system.

799
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: I can use it better, and I have ammunition appropriate

800
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,439
Speaker 1: to be used inside the house with it. So that's

801
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: that's what I go to, UM, And I think that

802
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 1: that's probably the best answer I can give. The best firearm,

803
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: the best weapon for for home defense is the one

804
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 1: that you know and that you can handle the best,

805
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 1: Well said, um, James C. Do you, James C. Horn,

806
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: do you travel to other states for classes? And if

807
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,959
Speaker 1: I have a local range, can class be set up there? Yes? Yes,

808
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 1: so far, even though we're based in Pennsylvania, so far

809
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 1: we've been as far north as New Hampshire, south as

810
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 1: Florida and west it's Colorado to do classes. And we're

811
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: always looking to to go and meet new people and

812
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,280
Speaker 1: have a good time. We have a very silly question

813
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,879
Speaker 1: up here on YouTube, and I'll ask it. Why not? Sure?

814
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: Why not? Sean Dunn asks if I trained with the

815
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: twenty two caliber caliber version of a five fifties six

816
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: rifle that I have, does that make me gay? Well? No, no,

817
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 1: it doesn't make you gay. And and hey here it's

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Speaker 1: All right, I think that covers a lot there, Man,

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845
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Speaker 1: we've talked about this in the podcast before, but we

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Speaker 1: were surprised by this. We have a ballistic shields for

847
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Speaker 1: a backpack that could stop any around. We were able

848
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849
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Speaker 1: there's a law that you can have um you you

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Speaker 1: basically can have like a ballistic shield. You can't have

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Speaker 1: which is cool too, but it's you you you know

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Speaker 1: with you, Jared, any other stuff that you want to

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Speaker 1: before we wrap this up, any any tips to end

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Speaker 1: this off? M oh I will mention this. Uh there

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Speaker 1: or you can actually uh um, if you have your

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Speaker 1: They're putting in a yard long range that should be

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Speaker 1: what we do all of our more advanced stuff. Um,

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