Speaker 1: To on the move, going deep speedways peas do.
Speaker 2: From the Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex.
Speaker 3: This is Drivetime with Travis Wingfield. He's got my hands
Speaker 3: in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: What is up Dolphins and welcome to the Draft Time Podcast.
Speaker 2: I am your host, Travis Wingfield. And on today's show,
Speaker 2: it's that time of year, guys, undrafted free agents are
Speaker 2: here and we have none other than the Great Every
Speaker 2: Hunt to break it all down for us, telling us
Speaker 2: who he thinks will make the roster, the skills of
Speaker 2: those players, and the entire Dolphins draft class. From the
Speaker 2: Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex. This
Speaker 2: is the Draft Time Podcast. My guest today, the Great
Speaker 2: every Hunt, wasting no time on this special edition of
Speaker 2: the podcast. My guest today Emery Hunt and Emory Man.
Speaker 2: We had to go back and forth a few times
Speaker 2: to find a time to do this show because you're
Speaker 2: already on the grind again, my friend, tell the people
Speaker 2: where this game has taken you this week, and please
Speaker 2: tell me, Please tell me Man, there's a vacation for
Speaker 2: you in the near future.
Speaker 4: Well, listen, I'm all about ball man, and I'm always
Speaker 4: gonna be about ball. And so I was in Canada
Speaker 4: at the University of Waterloo. So it's in Waterloo, Ontario,
Speaker 4: and they start their college football season by playing their
Speaker 4: postseason All Star game before the season. So I was
Speaker 4: at the East West Bowl, the U Sports, which is
Speaker 4: the NCAA for the Canadian colleges, So the U Sports
Speaker 4: East West Bowl. I've been going up there since twenty thirteen.
Speaker 4: So it allows me to get to jump on the
Speaker 4: Canadian prospects that we'll ultimately see, you know, down in
Speaker 4: the States, you know, in January and the postseason All
Speaker 4: Star game circuit. So I already knew about let's just say,
Speaker 4: for this draft class purpose, I already knew about Giovanni
Speaker 4: Manu and Theo Benneedett based on what I saw from them.
Speaker 1: You know who laughs me up in Canada.
Speaker 3: It's amazing.
Speaker 2: It never ceases to blow my mind how far and
Speaker 2: why this game can take you and how much you
Speaker 2: put the time in. Man. That's why we love having
Speaker 2: you on for this edition of the Draft Time podcast,
Speaker 2: because Emory, it's that time of year again.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: You've told us about Robert Jones, about Cater Kohu, about
Speaker 2: Braylen Sanders, who didn't make the team out of camp,
Speaker 2: but he was the first UDFA of that class on
Speaker 2: offense to get offensive snaps that season. I'm going to
Speaker 2: count that one as well. Julian Hill and Chris Brooks
Speaker 2: all making the team as Emory predicted they would on
Speaker 2: this exact edition of the Draft Time podcast. And Emory,
Speaker 2: I'm looking at our past chats are our dms we
Speaker 2: exchange on Twitter, and you've got a couple of misses
Speaker 2: in there, but you're batting well over five hundred, which
Speaker 2: is a good draft batting average. And pretty much every
Speaker 2: UDFA who's taken snaps with the Dolphins, you've mentioned them
Speaker 2: as an undrafted rookie with a chance to make the squad.
Speaker 2: And I'm not sure if this number is out by now.
Speaker 2: It probably is, but it used to be like a
Speaker 2: three percent chance, for like three percent chance for an
Speaker 2: undrafted guy to make the roster.
Speaker 3: Do you think that's an accurate number?
Speaker 4: Probably so, because a lot of times, what we're finding
Speaker 4: now is teams are really stacked with depth and they're
Speaker 4: not really a lot of spots available, which is why
Speaker 4: they had to open up that practice squad to more players.
Speaker 4: So we're seeing teams, you know, retain a lot of
Speaker 4: draft picks and not really have the room to really
Speaker 4: stash undrafted rookie free agents.
Speaker 2: I like it that way because I think for the
Speaker 2: longest time NFL kind of needed some version of a
Speaker 2: you know, a minor league system.
Speaker 3: And you don't obways think at the games that way.
Speaker 2: But having sixteen guys and you're building are seventeen with
Speaker 2: the international Pathway program position they have this year or always,
Speaker 2: i should say, but from Miami they have Bayramatos in
Speaker 2: that role. But I just think it's cool because you
Speaker 2: get a chance to evaluate more players and get guys
Speaker 2: more chances to develop their game. So back to the question,
Speaker 2: which is this, take us into what you do with
Speaker 2: these players that many consider sleep because you know him
Speaker 2: so well. I want you to take us into the
Speaker 2: mind of the area scout. Who's who's the one trying
Speaker 2: to uncover these gems because they're out there.
Speaker 3: How the heck do you find them?
Speaker 4: Well, you gotta get to get a six on the ground.
Speaker 4: You gotta get boots on the ground, man. And that's
Speaker 4: the part of the process that I really enjoy because
Speaker 4: I attend all eight All Star Games and all Star Games.
Speaker 4: So again I just told you guys, I'm at the
Speaker 4: East West Bowl right up in Canada. But then once
Speaker 4: we get down to December, I'm at the FCS Bowl,
Speaker 4: which the first All Star game in the States out
Speaker 4: of the gate. Then I'm at the Hula Bowl, Tropical Bowl,
Speaker 4: College Gridin Showcase, HPCU Legacy Bowl, Senior, and Trine. And
Speaker 4: we no longer have the NFLPA Bowl, but when we
Speaker 4: had it, I was there. So if you are at
Speaker 4: these smaller all star games, you're going to see players.
Speaker 4: Case in point. Last year, I was talking all throughout
Speaker 4: the draft process. I was talking about a guy that
Speaker 4: I saw at the College Grind Showcase in Colton Dowell
Speaker 4: out of ut Martin. I was like, Yo, this dude,
Speaker 4: he's legit, man, He's just you know, baking these cornerbacks.
Speaker 4: He ends up getting drafted in the seventh round by
Speaker 4: the Tennessee Titans.
Speaker 1: This year.
Speaker 4: All throughout the offseason circuit, the postseason All Star game,
Speaker 4: I kept bringing up a guy. So at the FCS
Speaker 4: Bowl in Tropical bal And, Levey Dridg Rodriguez out of
Speaker 4: Texas A and them Commerce gets drafted by the Minnesota
Speaker 4: Vikings in the seventh round. No one knows who he was,
Speaker 4: but I saw him live twice and saw him ball
Speaker 4: out at both All Star Games. And that's the type
Speaker 4: of stuff that you have to do if you're an
Speaker 4: Area scout. Area Scouts are there, it's Area Scouts, and
Speaker 4: it's meet these smaller All Stars. Everybody else just wats
Speaker 4: to the Singer Bowl or some me trickling at the
Speaker 4: Shrine Bowl. But man, if you get out to these
Speaker 4: smaller All Star games, you're gonna uncover some gyms. And
Speaker 4: these are a lot of guys that end up being
Speaker 4: undrafted free agents.
Speaker 2: I think a m commerce is gonna have to start
Speaker 2: paying you for your services because you're talking about him.
Speaker 2: And also Cater Kohu, who is on the Miami Dolphins
Speaker 2: roster here, So you're getting some gems out of that,
Speaker 2: just out of that one school alone right there. Let's
Speaker 2: go ahead and get into this right now, Emory, because
Speaker 2: we have twelve UDF that we get our first look
Speaker 2: at on the field today. By the way, Rookie Many
Speaker 2: Camp kicks off on Friday, just a couple of hours
Speaker 2: after this episode drops. I'll go ahead and read you
Speaker 2: the list and then we'll just go ahead and have
Speaker 2: you tell me the guys that stand out off of
Speaker 2: that list. Receiver Jaquan Burton from FAU, safety Jordan Colbert
Speaker 2: from Rhode Island. Cornerback Storm Duck I had unc on here,
Speaker 2: but he actually transferred Louisville lat year, so he played
Speaker 2: his last season at Louisville. Quarterback Gavin Hardison from UTIP.
Speaker 2: That's Nick Eatams UTIP, by the way, cornerback Isaiah Johnson
Speaker 2: from Syracuse. Offensive lineman Matt Jones from Ohio State the
Speaker 2: IPP player I mentioned, Betro Matos the tackle. Offensive lineman
Speaker 2: Andrew Mayer or Sorry Meyer out of UTEP, Linebacker Grace
Speaker 2: and Murphy from UCLA. Defensive tackle Entered Payne from Colorado,
Speaker 2: safety Mark Perry from TCU, and tight end Hayden Rucci
Speaker 2: from Wisconsin. Emery the Flora Giers. Who you got on
Speaker 2: that list? Man, Well, let's start offense and then go defense.
Speaker 2: Jakwhan Burton was someone that really stood out to me
Speaker 2: at the College Godwin showcase. And when you're watching him run,
Speaker 2: you like, Wow, this.
Speaker 4: Dude has like his speed is completely different than everybody else's,
Speaker 4: Like he is super explosive. And when you think about
Speaker 4: him being a dynamic piece. It makes sense that he
Speaker 4: ends up in Miami, where everyone that's explosive ends up
Speaker 4: down south on South Beach. But watching him work at
Speaker 4: the College Grin Showcase and then seeing him get a
Speaker 4: call up to the Hula Bowl, it was just like,
Speaker 4: it makes sense because he first step quickness is ridiculous
Speaker 4: and so he was showing you at two separate All Star.
Speaker 1: Games that he could do things really well.
Speaker 4: Then you go back and watch this film and you
Speaker 4: see that he was open a lot, but his quarterback
Speaker 4: couldn't get him the football because they had a lot
Speaker 4: of you know, quarterback issues at FAU. But you know,
Speaker 4: speed five to ten seven can legit fly and track
Speaker 4: the football if you get if you know the old saying,
Speaker 4: if he's even he's leaving, that's him to tea. So
Speaker 4: I think he has you know, he fits in perfectly
Speaker 4: with Todds Washington and Malie Washington, all these fast guys
Speaker 4: that they have on their So that's one guy, you know,
Speaker 4: number one, and you know two. I'll go on defense, right,
Speaker 4: and I feel like Grayson Murphy was a very underrated player, right.
Speaker 4: And when I look at the type of guys that
Speaker 4: they signed in Miami or drafted I'm sorry in Miami.
Speaker 4: You know Chop Robinson and also Mohamma Kamara. Both of
Speaker 4: these guys are legit the same type guys. So it
Speaker 4: was Grayson Murphy right six two two fifty one solid
Speaker 4: East West Sprian Bowl. He's heavy handed, has great core strength,
Speaker 4: he works through contact rather well to collapse the pocket,
Speaker 4: and he is someone that has a legit shot to
Speaker 4: make it. Because again we're talking about rotating talent and waves,
Speaker 4: and you see Jail and Phillips and Bradley Chuck. You know,
Speaker 4: they're the starters. Plus they're you know, the nurse some
Speaker 4: injuries they're coming back from. But you're bringing Shaq Barrett,
Speaker 4: who's cut from Saint Clautha's Mo Kamara who played at
Speaker 4: the same school as Shaq Barrett, Chop Robinson, the same
Speaker 4: kind of way Race and Murphy. So they're trying to
Speaker 4: get waves of guys to get in there and get
Speaker 4: after the quarterback. So I think that's one that that
Speaker 4: really impressed me a lot. Storm Duck he talked about
Speaker 4: North Carolina. People forget he also played at app State
Speaker 4: and he also played at Lottill He you know, came
Speaker 4: out of Louisville.
Speaker 1: But what's interesting about his time at Louisville.
Speaker 4: You know, I think people once they realized, oh he
Speaker 4: loved you and c oh, well, you know, now that's
Speaker 4: that's that's a rap. But Storm Duck can ball, and
Speaker 4: he was well coached at Louisville. Their cornerbacks coach Steve
Speaker 4: Ellis has produced some studs everywhere he's going. When he
Speaker 4: was at Middle Tennessee, Travarious War, when he was at
Speaker 4: East Carolina, Jakua McMillan. Now he's at Louisville. You have
Speaker 4: Storm Duck, you have Jarvis Brown League that came out this.
Speaker 1: Year as well. Duck can play.
Speaker 4: Duck is physical, He's got great size, good technique, solid
Speaker 4: man cover skills.
Speaker 1: I think he has a legit chance to make it.
Speaker 4: And Mark Perry to me the safety out of TCU.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing about TCU.
Speaker 4: I know their defense collectively wasn't as good as we're
Speaker 4: normally used to seeing a TCU defense. But at the
Speaker 4: end of the day, he is someone that's a strong
Speaker 4: safety but does a really good job and you know,
Speaker 4: communicating through his own cover, so he understands assignments, understands
Speaker 4: how to stay disciplined in his assignment deep, you know,
Speaker 4: so you can trust him as a split field safety,
Speaker 4: but also has the explosiveness to close on a receiver
Speaker 4: and jar the ball loose. So he is someone to
Speaker 4: me that can defend the run but also isn't a
Speaker 4: liability in terms of out there in past cover. So
Speaker 4: those guys to me really stood out in how well
Speaker 4: they played. But I also mentioned Isaiah Johnson unique story.
Speaker 4: He was dominant at Dartmouth, and I thought he would
Speaker 4: have stayed at Dartmouth and left straight from there, but
Speaker 4: transferred one to you know, compete into the portal, played
Speaker 4: two seasons. I believe it at Syracuse. I think he's
Speaker 4: more of a strong own safety than in the corner
Speaker 4: or it could be more of a combo kind of guy.
Speaker 4: But he's long, he's athletic, has good ball skills. But
Speaker 4: I remember him dominating at Dartmouth and and kind of
Speaker 4: selfishly wishing he would stay there and just you know,
Speaker 4: becoming that big fish in a small pond. But you
Speaker 4: go to Syracuse, you play, but you kind of get
Speaker 4: lost in the shelfing what's going on.
Speaker 1: He ended up not getting drafted.
Speaker 2: It's funny you mentioned the conversion to potential safety. Except
Speaker 2: the first note I put when I watched his tape
Speaker 2: was I think this guy could move to safety and
Speaker 2: be pretty good at that spot as well. It kind
Speaker 2: of reminds me a little bit of Trill Williams, the
Speaker 2: guy that we had in camp here for a couple
Speaker 2: of years who had that just imposing length and size
Speaker 2: on the boundary there at Syracuse. He kind of has
Speaker 2: that similar build and temperament as Tryll Williams did. So
Speaker 2: you've already got as much information here from Emory Hunt
Speaker 2: on this UDFA classes. You're gonna get an other Dolphins
Speaker 2: podcast out there. Well, we ain't done Yet's go ahead
Speaker 2: and take our first break right there. Come back on
Speaker 2: the other side, and we're gonna have some follow ups
Speaker 2: for you that I know you're gonna give us some
Speaker 2: great answers here on this UDFA class for the twenty
Speaker 2: twenty four Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 3: That's next.
Speaker 2: My guest today, Emory Hunt on the Draft Time podcast,
Speaker 2: your host Travis Wingfield, brought to you by Auto Nation.
Speaker 2: I want to pick it back up here in segment
Speaker 2: two with my guests, is ay Emory Hunt talking about
Speaker 2: something that you alluded to when you were talking about
Speaker 2: Jakwan Burton, the receiver from FAU and his fit in
Speaker 2: the Miami offense and Emery. Every guy go down here,
Speaker 2: whether it's draft pick, a free agent, a UDFA, they
Speaker 2: all fall.
Speaker 3: Under a similar umbrella.
Speaker 2: And I just want to get your take on this,
Speaker 2: because you can go down the ten split metric and
Speaker 2: it's across the board. They're all fantastic in their ten splits.
Speaker 2: The receivers obviously have speed to burn for days. The
Speaker 2: running backs have a similar slashing style. I'm just curious
Speaker 2: what you make of a team that knows the type
Speaker 2: of guy they want and they go after and they
Speaker 2: really hone in on that particular skill set.
Speaker 3: I'm curious what you think about that.
Speaker 4: I love that linear leadership from GM coach position coach,
Speaker 4: and you need that in order to have success because
Speaker 4: you're trying to replicate styles. And so when you see
Speaker 4: what the Dolphins have done that receiver, what they've done
Speaker 4: in the backfield with their running back room, it's one
Speaker 4: of the same. So hey, we could take Tyreek Hill
Speaker 4: out for a breather or two for you know, two
Speaker 4: or three plays, but the guy that's coming in is
Speaker 4: just as fast, if not maybe a half step slower
Speaker 4: than Tyreek Hill, but he's still faster than your corner.
Speaker 1: And now you're still tired.
Speaker 4: On that other end, this fast dude comes in with
Speaker 4: fresh legs, hosing the same type of threat. So now
Speaker 4: when we bring in arrested Tyreek Hill, you are even
Speaker 4: more tired, and now you have to chase this elite speed.
Speaker 4: It's crazy how they are never going to give you
Speaker 4: a break in terms of speed. And that's the type
Speaker 4: of pressure that that offense puts on you, and it's
Speaker 4: based off that personnel. But in order to have that,
Speaker 4: you have to have, you know, everyone on the same
Speaker 4: page from GM coach, head coach, and position coach, offensive coordinator.
Speaker 1: We need these type of guys.
Speaker 4: Go and find me these type of players, and the
Speaker 4: GM and his scouts go out and find those type
Speaker 4: of guys and they just bring him into Miami and
Speaker 4: that's why they're able to have that success and build
Speaker 4: that depth that they have across the board.
Speaker 2: I think you're really seeing that, and it's it's cool
Speaker 2: to see it with a new defensive coordinator, Anthony Weaver,
Speaker 2: because it kind of feels like he has a very
Speaker 2: specific vision in mind.
Speaker 3: For what this defense might look like.
Speaker 2: More on that in one second, But first I want
Speaker 2: to go back to Burton because I had a question
Speaker 2: for you about his speed because I saw that he
Speaker 2: timed it a four or five to one, But in
Speaker 2: watching him, don't it doesn't look that. It looks a
Speaker 2: lot faster than that. Do you think his play speed's
Speaker 2: a lot faster than four or five to one?
Speaker 1: Way faster? Yeah, he told me three out of Yeah.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's about what I thought too.
Speaker 1: You know, I've seen him live and again.
Speaker 4: He returned kicks, and you know that's something in Illinois
Speaker 4: and also at FA. So if you're returning to kickoffs,
Speaker 4: that means you got straight line speed, you got great speed.
Speaker 4: If you're turning punts, it means you're a little bit
Speaker 4: more shifty and more elusive than than you know, fast,
Speaker 4: but you could be fast and also shifty. But kickoff
Speaker 4: is like, hey, you're a straight speed and this dude
Speaker 4: turn kickoffs and also was just someone that's just legitimately fast.
Speaker 4: When you watch him, you know, I put him on
Speaker 4: scout notes. If he has a two way go, it's
Speaker 4: a rap because you're gonna catch you flat footed or
Speaker 4: trying to make a decision and he's able to explode
Speaker 4: out of his breaks and create even more separation.
Speaker 1: So that's the type of speed he possesses.
Speaker 2: That right there is why I love the Odell Beckham sign,
Speaker 2: because he's gonna ge two way goes all day inside
Speaker 2: with Reagan Walla on the perimeter. That's a different podcast
Speaker 2: for a different day. Let's go back to the defensive
Speaker 2: side of the football here and go back to Grayson
Speaker 2: Murphy because that's the guy that really jumped off the
Speaker 2: list here to me, of everybody, all twelve undrafted rookies
Speaker 2: for the Dolphins the UCLA I think calling him an
Speaker 2: edge is almost like disingenuous because of all the you know,
Speaker 2: walking around and mugging up that he did there at UCLA.
Speaker 2: I'm curious how you feel like the scheme at UCLA
Speaker 2: can benefit him here under coach Anthony Weaver. Because we'll
Speaker 2: talk about Chop Robinson and Mo Kamara here in just
Speaker 2: a second. But man, when I watched Chop like him
Speaker 2: playing over the A gap and rushing and putting those
Speaker 2: centers in an immediate peril with that first step quickness,
Speaker 2: and Mo Camarage doing the same off the edge, I
Speaker 2: kind of feel like watching UCLA, there's a lot of
Speaker 2: similarities there in terms of how they used him and
Speaker 2: his twin brother Gabe and Lault to rush in the quarterback.
Speaker 2: You see a kind of similar transition there from UCLA
Speaker 2: to Anthony Weaver's defense.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because he's you know, able to play with his
Speaker 4: hands rather well. He could set an edge, so he
Speaker 4: could be he could be across, he could be used
Speaker 4: across the front, which is why I was shocked he
Speaker 4: went undrafted. So for me, it's someone that, hey, you know,
Speaker 4: he was dominated at North Texas and stepped up and
Speaker 4: played dominant ball at UCLA. And the cool part is
Speaker 4: he's in a situation where he can be part of
Speaker 4: that rotation to where it doesn't really you don't wear
Speaker 4: him down or you don't wear down anyone else that
Speaker 4: you brought in. And like I mentioned earlier, the fact
Speaker 4: that they were able to get a bunch of the
Speaker 4: same type of guys like he is good at the
Speaker 4: point of attack, he's good off ball if you want
Speaker 4: him to be a Sam back er so to speak.
Speaker 4: So he's that cross between the sam and the edge
Speaker 4: and the fact that he can get to quarterback and
Speaker 4: plays with his eyes like how we like I talked
Speaker 4: about how Lea two Latu does, like he's allowing his
Speaker 4: eyes to bring him to the football.
Speaker 1: Murphy does the same thing.
Speaker 4: And so he's not you know, he's not someone that's
Speaker 4: gonna get fooled by minis direction. Now, he's not the
Speaker 4: more explosive guy, but he's a heavy handed puncher. That
Speaker 4: Cassetta Edge probably going to be a very strong run defender,
Speaker 4: while the other two guys, the other rookies and Robinson
Speaker 4: and Kamara are going to be your higher guns to
Speaker 4: go go and get the quarterback.
Speaker 3: Really good stuff.
Speaker 2: And then then every time we do this, man like
Speaker 2: you talk about how much you love scouting these these
Speaker 2: college all star games. This just gets me fired to
Speaker 2: watch these guys out here on the field with the
Speaker 2: Baptist Health trading complex. I love love watching these young
Speaker 2: guys try to, you know, make their dreams come true.
Speaker 2: Last follow up question for you here, Ray Emery, that
Speaker 2: the two defensive backs you talked about, we talked about
Speaker 2: Isaiah Johns a little bit, but Storm Duck and Mark Perry,
Speaker 2: because yeah, the communication and smarts in the back end
Speaker 2: is so clear. For Mark Perry, the way he plays
Speaker 2: that position, But I'm curious. I kind of felt like
Speaker 2: their skills translate a little bit to special teams. Do
Speaker 2: you think both those guys could wind up, you know,
Speaker 2: not just carving out a spot on the roster, but
Speaker 2: maybe being core special teams guys right away.
Speaker 1: Well, that's what they're gonna have to start.
Speaker 4: And the unique part about the back end of the
Speaker 4: draft and also undrafted free agents now with a change
Speaker 4: in the kickoff rules, you probably want guys that are
Speaker 4: used to traveling down in space and making open field tackles.
Speaker 4: So that screams safety, That screams outside linebackers and it streams,
Speaker 4: it screams corners that are physical, and Duck and Perry
Speaker 4: check both of those boxes. And the cool part is,
Speaker 4: you know, while his run defense isn't the most consistent,
Speaker 4: like he tends to you know, ankle bite a little
Speaker 4: bit they call it, where he's diving at the ankles
Speaker 4: of the ball carriers coming outside. But in the open field,
Speaker 4: if you put him in a special teams type situation,
Speaker 4: he knows, okay, I have to play with better technique here.
Speaker 1: It really does a good job in that.
Speaker 4: So I feel like, yeah, he's gonna have to make
Speaker 4: his bones as a gunner. Not a gunner, but someone
Speaker 4: that goes down on kickoffs. But Perry is someone that
Speaker 4: excels in that because he plays safety. He has that
Speaker 4: mindset already on like a corner, so I could I
Speaker 4: could easily see him, you know, thriving as a as
Speaker 4: a core special team.
Speaker 2: It's a good deep rosters for finding a way onto
Speaker 2: the Roster're gonna have to do a little bit of
Speaker 2: everything for these udfas.
Speaker 3: Great stuff. There is always one more segment.
Speaker 2: We're going to talk about the Dolphins draft class with
Speaker 2: Emery Hunt. That's next here on the Draft Time podcast,
Speaker 2: your host Travis Wingfield, brought to you by Auto Nation.
Speaker 3: All right, you've done your work so far, so you've
Speaker 3: put the time in.
Speaker 2: You've given us the detail on the udfas that we
Speaker 2: have been waiting for a while now to talk to
Speaker 2: you by I talked about this every time we would
Speaker 2: come on the show and talk combine or post draft
Speaker 2: or or I should say post combine, pre draft, whatever
Speaker 2: it is.
Speaker 3: You always come and deliver on this part of the episode.
Speaker 2: So we're gonna go ahead and throw you a bone
Speaker 2: and get to more of the kind of the guys
Speaker 2: that get on the marque, the top of the line guys.
Speaker 2: We'll go ahead and start in the first round here,
Speaker 2: And I mean, I love this draft class so much.
Speaker 2: Go ahe and start with Chop Robinson, who offers rare,
Speaker 2: rare explosiveness and just as rare of an ability to
Speaker 2: bend to the cornerback and kind of run that arc
Speaker 2: and angle back to him. But I'm curious what you
Speaker 2: think I talked about, you know, coach Weavers defense. Here
Speaker 2: a little bit about his potential fit under Anthony Weavers.
Speaker 2: Cause I'm watching Penn States tape and he mugs up
Speaker 2: in the a gaps and plays that nosebacker spot, and
Speaker 2: damn it if that's not all over the Ravens tape
Speaker 2: with Jvan Clowney or Odafe. Oh wait, whoever you want
Speaker 2: to pick those twitched up dudes, you usually rush the edge.
Speaker 2: Do you see a similar potential role for Chop Robinson
Speaker 2: here his rookie season under coach Anthony Weaver with Miami.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because he's not going to be asked to start.
Speaker 4: And the cool part is, and you kind of see,
Speaker 4: you know, a little bit of what they thought in
Speaker 4: terms of tight because he's about the same size as Murphy,
Speaker 4: you know, so, and the difference between Robinson and Murphy
Speaker 4: is Robinson is more explosive. So you see Robinson being
Speaker 4: much more dynamic as more of a pass rusher. I
Speaker 4: know people were focused on the sack numbers, but I
Speaker 4: mean he did a great job of funneling a lot
Speaker 4: of the work to his his teammates and so, but
Speaker 4: he also made a lot of plays in the backfield
Speaker 4: versus the run. So you're getting an explosive guy that
Speaker 4: can play the run, that can be disruptive. But if
Speaker 4: he's in a situation where he's just a you know,
Speaker 4: singled up, hired gun as a pass rusher, he's going
Speaker 4: to excel.
Speaker 1: And I think that's why they made the pick.
Speaker 4: And when you think about a healthy Jail and Phillips
Speaker 4: and a healthy Bradley Chubb, or if you want to
Speaker 4: mix and match and maybe put Phillips and Robinson on
Speaker 4: the field the same time, or put all three on
Speaker 4: the field at the same time, you had that luxury
Speaker 4: because as you get deeper into the season, you want
Speaker 4: your pass rush to be able to go from your
Speaker 4: first team to your second wave. And if you're able
Speaker 4: to do that, you're gonna be able to play deeper
Speaker 4: into the postseason.
Speaker 2: We saw it last year with the Dolphins went heavy
Speaker 2: after the cornerback position because in twenty twenty two, the
Speaker 2: attrition there was just so it made the room bleak
Speaker 2: and you had, you know, seventh eighth guy uh taking
Speaker 2: their turn because of the injury.
Speaker 3: And last year that was the edge group for Miami.
Speaker 2: So hopefully the same luck happens this year in terms
Speaker 2: of getting healthier as the year goes on at that spot. Next,
Speaker 2: Houston's offensive tackle Patrick Paul. We heard from Mike McDaniel
Speaker 2: and Chris Greer after the selection and they mentioned a
Speaker 2: few times how even when the technique isn't right, he's
Speaker 2: still finding his way into wins because of the just
Speaker 2: sheer size, mass, and overall strength that he plays with. First,
Speaker 2: just your snapshot on the player, and then I'm curious
Speaker 2: to hear your perspective on drafting a toolsy player like that,
Speaker 2: a guy that has the high weight, speed and coaching
Speaker 2: him up.
Speaker 3: What to you is the key to doing that well?
Speaker 4: He has really good technique and he's able to you know,
Speaker 4: tie his form and footwork together and does a good
Speaker 4: job with that and The first note I have in
Speaker 4: my scour report is like, he's very tough to.
Speaker 1: Move off the spot.
Speaker 4: Like you know, he's six seven, three thirty one, So
Speaker 4: you have a big, large offensive tackle that also has
Speaker 4: really good recognition which ties into the footwork, which ties
Speaker 4: into the hand usage.
Speaker 1: It's impressive.
Speaker 4: You know, he'll just have to quicken up to you know,
Speaker 4: his process in terms of making that move from coolers
Speaker 4: to the pros and getting his hands on a defender first.
Speaker 1: You know, he's gonna have to.
Speaker 4: If you're big, sometimes you got to play big and
Speaker 4: you know, quicken enough. That process is going to be
Speaker 4: big for him. But the cool part is he's going
Speaker 4: to get a lot of reps in training camp because
Speaker 4: he's behind to Ron Armstead, and you know Armstead is
Speaker 4: you know, future Hall of Famer potentially, uh, someone that's
Speaker 4: gonna you know, have those vet days and when you have,
Speaker 4: you're going to be able to take advantage of you
Speaker 4: Patrick Paul. So you it's the rare opportunity for someone
Speaker 4: to you know, be a tuosy player that has some
Speaker 4: fine tuning to do, and we'll get that opportunity to
Speaker 4: do that based on who he's behind a veteran that
Speaker 4: can take some days off and really in preparation for
Speaker 4: the season. So you're going to see a rare case
Speaker 4: where Paul may be getting a lot of work with
Speaker 4: the ones, you know, just based off training camp reps.
Speaker 4: But that's going to help him develop quicker, faster and
Speaker 4: become a strong swing player in year one with I
Speaker 4: see year two being a starter.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Tista does not need training camp.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's out here, he works, and I love
Speaker 2: that he's going to be on the field, working with
Speaker 2: the guys and being that kind of voice in the
Speaker 2: ear of Patrick Paul. They're both students of Duke Many
Speaker 2: whether they're O line mastermind. So good on, good there
Speaker 2: with both of those guys and Emory, I've been most
Speaker 2: excited to talk to you about this next player, this
Speaker 2: entire podcast, u DFAs track picks, whatever you want to
Speaker 2: call it. I love talking running backs with you and
Speaker 2: I had a chance to really dive deep into Jalen
Speaker 2: Rice tape at Tennessee and I only even have a
Speaker 2: question for you here.
Speaker 3: But I just think you're going to love this back.
Speaker 2: Just give me the rundown on Jalen Wright at this
Speaker 2: running back spot.
Speaker 4: Emory well, it has been the common theme of what
Speaker 4: we talked about all the show is that this dude
Speaker 4: is exactly what they look for in Miami's He reminds
Speaker 4: me so much of Riteim Moster and you know, one
Speaker 4: cut downhill runner with explosive speed. Now he doesn't have
Speaker 4: the you know, the the vision so to speak, that
Speaker 4: you kind of can create behind the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 4: A lane has to be there for him. Pat level
Speaker 4: needs to come down a bit, which is, you know,
Speaker 4: weird to talk about a guy that's like five to
Speaker 4: ten and talk about he has to you know, play
Speaker 4: with better pad level. But if the lane is there
Speaker 4: and the hole is there, it's no different than most are.
Speaker 4: He's going to fly right through it, not run right
Speaker 4: through it. And then you know it's again talking about waves.
Speaker 4: So most are a chan. And now right it's like, goodness, man,
Speaker 4: like you never get tired. You will never get tired
Speaker 4: on offense in terms of speed and what you bringing
Speaker 4: in so defensively, while you're running the football and you
Speaker 4: know you stop it and run, you think you've done
Speaker 4: a good job against most of you've been able to
Speaker 4: you know, contain a chan. And now here comes the
Speaker 4: third guy out the gate and right who has fresh
Speaker 4: layers and it's still explosive. And now he's hitting those
Speaker 4: home runs right. And it's not to say that someone
Speaker 4: Achmed is savonn Achmed is not a pretty quick guy,
Speaker 4: swifty guy, but there's a significant drop off and speed
Speaker 4: from Mosterter to e Chan to amed Akman. And that's
Speaker 4: where Wright comes in. I think that's why right, I
Speaker 4: feel like no only can have a role there, but
Speaker 4: also as a kickoff returner because again, based off the
Speaker 4: new rules, you kind of want to running back back
Speaker 4: there that that's used to being able to set up
Speaker 4: blockers and be able to make multiple cuts and not
Speaker 4: lose acceleration used to carry the football in that In
Speaker 4: that regard, Wright could have a significant you know impact
Speaker 4: right out of the gate. Because you don't want you
Speaker 4: don't want to have you know, burials out there. You
Speaker 4: want to pull him off special teams. Well, you may
Speaker 4: not be able to do that now because they signed
Speaker 4: Odell Beckham, but prior to that, hey, we could remove
Speaker 4: burials a special teams.
Speaker 1: We don't want to burn a Chan on special teams.
Speaker 4: But you have a guy in right that can return kicks,
Speaker 4: you could teach him how to return kicks, and he
Speaker 4: has that speed and explosiveness that you that you like
Speaker 4: in the backfield.
Speaker 3: No, I liked him. That sounds slide. The idea of
Speaker 3: a cham backer two excites me.
Speaker 2: But I get the idea of maybe trying to preserve
Speaker 2: him a little bit more for the offense. And also
Speaker 2: they thought of thirty personnel with this offense. Man, Like,
Speaker 2: I know it's not common, but I can I can
Speaker 2: see a package of thirty personnel with with Reek and
Speaker 2: Waddle and then the three running backs you just mentioned
Speaker 2: could be pretty fun. There last one for you here, Amory,
Speaker 2: gets you out of here. Day three Dolphins drafts of
Speaker 2: Mohammed Kamara, Malik Washington, Patrick McMorris, and Taj Washington. You
Speaker 2: touched them a couple of these guys earlier, but just
Speaker 2: give me one or two of these guys that you
Speaker 2: loved from the Dolphins Day three and twenty twenty four.
Speaker 4: Well, Washington, tas Washington is explosive like he is classic
Speaker 4: USC receiver, you know, and again Washington is about the
Speaker 4: same size as Burton. But I see those guys as
Speaker 4: flankers and not you know, Z receivers and not slot guys,
Speaker 4: I feel like they can run routes, they can create
Speaker 4: their separations deeper down the field. I feel like people
Speaker 4: are sleeping on Patrick mcfore's because he, to me, is
Speaker 4: a combo guy. He can cover a little bit, so
Speaker 4: he keeps you strong against some of these bigger, physical
Speaker 4: wide receivers athletic tight ends that teams try to throw
Speaker 4: at you, but also as strong versus the run, so
Speaker 4: he keeps you confident and dependable there and run support.
Speaker 4: So I think that's someone that has a really good
Speaker 4: opportunity to really have an impact. But when you look
Speaker 4: at Malik Washington and Taj Washington, it's the common thing we've.
Speaker 1: Talked about man speed and ability to create your own shot.
Speaker 4: Malik Washington is kind of like Tyreek Kill to where
Speaker 4: you can trust him carrying the ball as a running back.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: So now you open that avenue up, you got got
Speaker 4: Now you got a bunch of guys that can.
Speaker 1: Carry the ball, you know, really from anywhere.
Speaker 4: They can take a short pass, a long way, or
Speaker 4: they can just turn around and hand it to him
Speaker 4: and they know what to do with it. Taz is
Speaker 4: someone that you hit him in stride and it pairs
Speaker 4: up perfectly with the tool tongue of a low who's
Speaker 4: released and placement is it aids the receiver that is explosive, which.
Speaker 1: Is why you see him.
Speaker 4: You see Wado and he'll take so many slants to
Speaker 4: the house because the timing, the precision, the placement along
Speaker 4: with elite level speed, it's a touchdown waiting to happen.
Speaker 4: And so Washington to me Times Washington is someone that
Speaker 4: can thrive in that role. Malik Washington, you know, he's
Speaker 4: someone that can win as a as a ball carrier,
Speaker 4: but also as a receiver, whether it's inside or outside.
Speaker 2: Yeah, led the nation with thirty five broken tackles last
Speaker 2: year among all receivers. Like I just I can't believe
Speaker 2: Malak was there in the sixth round. I can't believe
Speaker 2: Tas're gonna say with the round to be perfect honest
Speaker 2: with you. So I'm fired up up these guys, and yeah,
Speaker 2: it's it's gonna be fun to watch what a job
Speaker 2: they've done remaking the receiver's room from twenty twenty one
Speaker 2: to now with what Tua has at his disposal.
Speaker 3: Great stuff as always.
Speaker 2: CBS Sports HQ Football game Plan, same handle on social
Speaker 2: at f ball game Plan, Emory. It's a bittersweet goodbye
Speaker 2: because this is legit one of my favorite episodes I
Speaker 2: do all year long. But that concludes Emery season. Here
Speaker 2: on Drive Man. We'll get you like three times in
Speaker 2: three months, and then we don't have to. We don't
Speaker 2: get you to get until February. But you're the best man.
Speaker 2: I appreciate you, and thanks as always my friend.
Speaker 1: Always a pleasure man. Appreciate you guys, bring me on.
Speaker 3: And away he goes.
Speaker 2: We always get smarter on this podcast when Emory joins us,
Speaker 2: so a big thank you to him for joining us
Speaker 2: here on the show we're gonna have on Monday, the
Speaker 2: Mini Camp Recap podcast. I'll give you some more detail
Speaker 2: and information on the undrafted rookies from my own tape study.
Speaker 2: We'll have the schedule release next Wednesday as well. Plenty
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