WEBVTT - Drive Time: Dolphins Undrafted Rookie Breakdown with Emory Hunt 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:03.360 To on the move, going deep speedways peas do. 0:00:05.720 --> 0:00:10.400 From the Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex. 0:00:10.960 --> 0:00:18.440 This is Drivetime with Travis Wingfield. He's got my hands 0:00:18.480 --> 0:00:19.440 in the playoffs. 0:00:25.120 --> 0:00:29.320 What is up Dolphins and welcome to the Draft Time Podcast. 0:00:29.600 --> 0:00:32.400 I am your host, Travis Wingfield. And on today's show, 0:00:32.800 --> 0:00:35.800 it's that time of year, guys, undrafted free agents are 0:00:35.880 --> 0:00:39.800 here and we have none other than the Great Every 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:41.839 Hunt to break it all down for us, telling us 0:00:41.840 --> 0:00:44.040 who he thinks will make the roster, the skills of 0:00:44.080 --> 0:00:46.960 those players, and the entire Dolphins draft class. From the 0:00:46.960 --> 0:00:50.239 Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex. This 0:00:50.560 --> 0:00:56.440 is the Draft Time Podcast. My guest today, the Great 0:00:56.800 --> 0:01:00.200 every Hunt, wasting no time on this special edition of 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:03.520 the podcast. My guest today Emery Hunt and Emory Man. 0:01:03.760 --> 0:01:05.679 We had to go back and forth a few times 0:01:05.720 --> 0:01:08.160 to find a time to do this show because you're 0:01:08.200 --> 0:01:11.200 already on the grind again, my friend, tell the people 0:01:11.560 --> 0:01:14.520 where this game has taken you this week, and please 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:17.160 tell me, Please tell me Man, there's a vacation for 0:01:17.200 --> 0:01:18.040 you in the near future. 0:01:18.720 --> 0:01:21.480 Well, listen, I'm all about ball man, and I'm always 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:24.920 gonna be about ball. And so I was in Canada 0:01:25.520 --> 0:01:28.600 at the University of Waterloo. So it's in Waterloo, Ontario, 0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:32.000 and they start their college football season by playing their 0:01:32.160 --> 0:01:34.320 postseason All Star game before the season. So I was 0:01:34.360 --> 0:01:36.760 at the East West Bowl, the U Sports, which is 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:41.080 the NCAA for the Canadian colleges, So the U Sports 0:01:41.160 --> 0:01:44.040 East West Bowl. I've been going up there since twenty thirteen. 0:01:45.200 --> 0:01:47.680 So it allows me to get to jump on the 0:01:47.720 --> 0:01:51.840 Canadian prospects that we'll ultimately see, you know, down in 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:55.040 the States, you know, in January and the postseason All 0:01:55.040 --> 0:01:57.280 Star game circuit. So I already knew about let's just say, 0:01:57.320 --> 0:02:01.320 for this draft class purpose, I already knew about Giovanni 0:02:01.400 --> 0:02:05.240 Manu and Theo Benneedett based on what I saw from them. 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:09.440 You know who laughs me up in Canada. 0:02:09.200 --> 0:02:09.800 It's amazing. 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:13.160 It never ceases to blow my mind how far and 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:15.359 why this game can take you and how much you 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:16.959 put the time in. Man. That's why we love having 0:02:17.000 --> 0:02:19.280 you on for this edition of the Draft Time podcast, 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:21.240 because Emory, it's that time of year again. 0:02:21.280 --> 0:02:21.520 Man. 0:02:21.680 --> 0:02:25.360 You've told us about Robert Jones, about Cater Kohu, about 0:02:25.360 --> 0:02:27.120 Braylen Sanders, who didn't make the team out of camp, 0:02:27.160 --> 0:02:30.120 but he was the first UDFA of that class on 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:32.400 offense to get offensive snaps that season. I'm going to 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:35.320 count that one as well. Julian Hill and Chris Brooks 0:02:35.320 --> 0:02:38.520 all making the team as Emory predicted they would on 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:41.560 this exact edition of the Draft Time podcast. And Emory, 0:02:41.720 --> 0:02:43.600 I'm looking at our past chats are our dms we 0:02:43.680 --> 0:02:45.880 exchange on Twitter, and you've got a couple of misses 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:48.440 in there, but you're batting well over five hundred, which 0:02:48.480 --> 0:02:51.640 is a good draft batting average. And pretty much every 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:55.400 UDFA who's taken snaps with the Dolphins, you've mentioned them 0:02:55.520 --> 0:02:58.040 as an undrafted rookie with a chance to make the squad. 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:00.440 And I'm not sure if this number is out by now. 0:03:00.440 --> 0:03:01.959 It probably is, but it used to be like a 0:03:02.000 --> 0:03:04.480 three percent chance, for like three percent chance for an 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:05.720 undrafted guy to make the roster. 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:06.919 Do you think that's an accurate number? 0:03:07.560 --> 0:03:09.560 Probably so, because a lot of times, what we're finding 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:14.760 now is teams are really stacked with depth and they're 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:18.600 not really a lot of spots available, which is why 0:03:18.639 --> 0:03:21.280 they had to open up that practice squad to more players. 0:03:21.560 --> 0:03:24.040 So we're seeing teams, you know, retain a lot of 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:27.440 draft picks and not really have the room to really 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:29.720 stash undrafted rookie free agents. 0:03:30.040 --> 0:03:31.760 I like it that way because I think for the 0:03:31.800 --> 0:03:34.120 longest time NFL kind of needed some version of a 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:36.800 you know, a minor league system. 0:03:36.840 --> 0:03:38.480 And you don't obways think at the games that way. 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:41.320 But having sixteen guys and you're building are seventeen with 0:03:41.360 --> 0:03:45.480 the international Pathway program position they have this year or always, 0:03:45.520 --> 0:03:48.360 i should say, but from Miami they have Bayramatos in 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:50.440 that role. But I just think it's cool because you 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:52.360 get a chance to evaluate more players and get guys 0:03:52.360 --> 0:03:54.880 more chances to develop their game. So back to the question, 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:58.400 which is this, take us into what you do with 0:03:58.480 --> 0:04:01.320 these players that many consider sleep because you know him 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:02.760 so well. I want you to take us into the 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:05.880 mind of the area scout. Who's who's the one trying 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:08.480 to uncover these gems because they're out there. 0:04:08.840 --> 0:04:09.960 How the heck do you find them? 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:12.240 Well, you gotta get to get a six on the ground. 0:04:12.240 --> 0:04:13.960 You gotta get boots on the ground, man. And that's 0:04:14.360 --> 0:04:17.359 the part of the process that I really enjoy because 0:04:17.520 --> 0:04:22.080 I attend all eight All Star Games and all Star Games. 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:24.360 So again I just told you guys, I'm at the 0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:28.200 East West Bowl right up in Canada. But then once 0:04:28.240 --> 0:04:30.200 we get down to December, I'm at the FCS Bowl, 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:32.080 which the first All Star game in the States out 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:34.680 of the gate. Then I'm at the Hula Bowl, Tropical Bowl, 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:39.800 College Gridin Showcase, HPCU Legacy Bowl, Senior, and Trine. And 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:41.920 we no longer have the NFLPA Bowl, but when we 0:04:42.040 --> 0:04:45.279 had it, I was there. So if you are at 0:04:45.440 --> 0:04:48.640 these smaller all star games, you're going to see players. 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:52.200 Case in point. Last year, I was talking all throughout 0:04:52.200 --> 0:04:54.440 the draft process. I was talking about a guy that 0:04:54.520 --> 0:04:58.040 I saw at the College Grind Showcase in Colton Dowell 0:04:58.320 --> 0:04:59.960 out of ut Martin. I was like, Yo, this dude, 0:05:00.360 --> 0:05:03.719 he's legit, man, He's just you know, baking these cornerbacks. 0:05:03.880 --> 0:05:06.240 He ends up getting drafted in the seventh round by 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:07.240 the Tennessee Titans. 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:08.159 This year. 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:11.719 All throughout the offseason circuit, the postseason All Star game, 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:14.240 I kept bringing up a guy. So at the FCS 0:05:14.240 --> 0:05:17.160 Bowl in Tropical bal And, Levey Dridg Rodriguez out of 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:20.320 Texas A and them Commerce gets drafted by the Minnesota 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:22.440 Vikings in the seventh round. No one knows who he was, 0:05:22.800 --> 0:05:25.799 but I saw him live twice and saw him ball 0:05:25.880 --> 0:05:28.560 out at both All Star Games. And that's the type 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:30.000 of stuff that you have to do if you're an 0:05:30.040 --> 0:05:33.240 Area scout. Area Scouts are there, it's Area Scouts, and 0:05:33.279 --> 0:05:36.240 it's meet these smaller All Stars. Everybody else just wats 0:05:36.320 --> 0:05:39.240 to the Singer Bowl or some me trickling at the 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:41.400 Shrine Bowl. But man, if you get out to these 0:05:41.440 --> 0:05:43.839 smaller All Star games, you're gonna uncover some gyms. And 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:45.680 these are a lot of guys that end up being 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:46.680 undrafted free agents. 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:48.880 I think a m commerce is gonna have to start 0:05:48.920 --> 0:05:50.960 paying you for your services because you're talking about him. 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:53.320 And also Cater Kohu, who is on the Miami Dolphins 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:55.320 roster here, So you're getting some gems out of that, 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:57.400 just out of that one school alone right there. Let's 0:05:57.440 --> 0:05:59.040 go ahead and get into this right now, Emory, because 0:05:59.040 --> 0:06:01.640 we have twelve UDF that we get our first look 0:06:01.640 --> 0:06:03.640 at on the field today. By the way, Rookie Many 0:06:03.680 --> 0:06:05.960 Camp kicks off on Friday, just a couple of hours 0:06:06.000 --> 0:06:08.240 after this episode drops. I'll go ahead and read you 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:09.599 the list and then we'll just go ahead and have 0:06:09.680 --> 0:06:11.440 you tell me the guys that stand out off of 0:06:11.480 --> 0:06:15.599 that list. Receiver Jaquan Burton from FAU, safety Jordan Colbert 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:18.840 from Rhode Island. Cornerback Storm Duck I had unc on here, 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:20.640 but he actually transferred Louisville lat year, so he played 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:23.560 his last season at Louisville. Quarterback Gavin Hardison from UTIP. 0:06:23.560 --> 0:06:26.719 That's Nick Eatams UTIP, by the way, cornerback Isaiah Johnson 0:06:26.760 --> 0:06:30.279 from Syracuse. Offensive lineman Matt Jones from Ohio State the 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:34.119 IPP player I mentioned, Betro Matos the tackle. Offensive lineman 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:37.320 Andrew Mayer or Sorry Meyer out of UTEP, Linebacker Grace 0:06:37.360 --> 0:06:40.440 and Murphy from UCLA. Defensive tackle Entered Payne from Colorado, 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:44.159 safety Mark Perry from TCU, and tight end Hayden Rucci 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:47.159 from Wisconsin. Emery the Flora Giers. Who you got on 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:50.679 that list? Man, Well, let's start offense and then go defense. 0:06:51.560 --> 0:06:53.960 Jakwhan Burton was someone that really stood out to me 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:57.400 at the College Godwin showcase. And when you're watching him run, 0:06:57.440 --> 0:06:59.120 you like, Wow, this. 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:03.000 Dude has like his speed is completely different than everybody else's, 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:07.320 Like he is super explosive. And when you think about 0:07:07.520 --> 0:07:10.400 him being a dynamic piece. It makes sense that he 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:14.000 ends up in Miami, where everyone that's explosive ends up 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:17.400 down south on South Beach. But watching him work at 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:20.240 the College Grin Showcase and then seeing him get a 0:07:20.240 --> 0:07:22.840 call up to the Hula Bowl, it was just like, 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:26.720 it makes sense because he first step quickness is ridiculous 0:07:27.560 --> 0:07:29.880 and so he was showing you at two separate All Star. 0:07:29.760 --> 0:07:31.920 Games that he could do things really well. 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:35.280 Then you go back and watch this film and you 0:07:35.360 --> 0:07:37.680 see that he was open a lot, but his quarterback 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:40.160 couldn't get him the football because they had a lot 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:43.600 of you know, quarterback issues at FAU. But you know, 0:07:43.760 --> 0:07:47.160 speed five to ten seven can legit fly and track 0:07:47.200 --> 0:07:49.720 the football if you get if you know the old saying, 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:53.360 if he's even he's leaving, that's him to tea. So 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:55.400 I think he has you know, he fits in perfectly 0:07:55.440 --> 0:07:58.560 with Todds Washington and Malie Washington, all these fast guys 0:07:58.560 --> 0:08:02.080 that they have on their So that's one guy, you know, 0:08:02.160 --> 0:08:06.800 number one, and you know two. I'll go on defense, right, 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:13.400 and I feel like Grayson Murphy was a very underrated player, right. 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:16.000 And when I look at the type of guys that 0:08:16.040 --> 0:08:19.200 they signed in Miami or drafted I'm sorry in Miami. 0:08:20.200 --> 0:08:24.400 You know Chop Robinson and also Mohamma Kamara. Both of 0:08:24.440 --> 0:08:28.480 these guys are legit the same type guys. So it 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:32.160 was Grayson Murphy right six two two fifty one solid 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:35.960 East West Sprian Bowl. He's heavy handed, has great core strength, 0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:38.360 he works through contact rather well to collapse the pocket, 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:41.840 and he is someone that has a legit shot to 0:08:41.880 --> 0:08:46.400 make it. Because again we're talking about rotating talent and waves, 0:08:46.920 --> 0:08:49.160 and you see Jail and Phillips and Bradley Chuck. You know, 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:50.920 they're the starters. Plus they're you know, the nurse some 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:53.800 injuries they're coming back from. But you're bringing Shaq Barrett, 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:56.600 who's cut from Saint Clautha's Mo Kamara who played at 0:08:56.640 --> 0:08:59.320 the same school as Shaq Barrett, Chop Robinson, the same 0:08:59.520 --> 0:09:01.719 kind of way Race and Murphy. So they're trying to 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:03.920 get waves of guys to get in there and get 0:09:03.920 --> 0:09:06.200 after the quarterback. So I think that's one that that 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:09.240 really impressed me a lot. Storm Duck he talked about 0:09:09.559 --> 0:09:13.800 North Carolina. People forget he also played at app State 0:09:13.880 --> 0:09:15.920 and he also played at Lottill He you know, came 0:09:15.960 --> 0:09:17.120 out of Louisville. 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:20.000 But what's interesting about his time at Louisville. 0:09:20.320 --> 0:09:23.040 You know, I think people once they realized, oh he 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:25.679 loved you and c oh, well, you know, now that's 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:29.200 that's that's a rap. But Storm Duck can ball, and 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:33.160 he was well coached at Louisville. Their cornerbacks coach Steve 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:38.680 Ellis has produced some studs everywhere he's going. When he 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:41.000 was at Middle Tennessee, Travarious War, when he was at 0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:44.360 East Carolina, Jakua McMillan. Now he's at Louisville. You have 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:47.679 Storm Duck, you have Jarvis Brown League that came out this. 0:09:47.720 --> 0:09:49.280 Year as well. Duck can play. 0:09:49.760 --> 0:09:55.680 Duck is physical, He's got great size, good technique, solid 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:56.760 man cover skills. 0:09:56.800 --> 0:09:59.080 I think he has a legit chance to make it. 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:03.559 And Mark Perry to me the safety out of TCU. 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:05.240 Here's the thing about TCU. 0:10:05.280 --> 0:10:08.800 I know their defense collectively wasn't as good as we're 0:10:08.840 --> 0:10:12.599 normally used to seeing a TCU defense. But at the 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:15.160 end of the day, he is someone that's a strong 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:17.840 safety but does a really good job and you know, 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:21.480 communicating through his own cover, so he understands assignments, understands 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:23.720 how to stay disciplined in his assignment deep, you know, 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:25.960 so you can trust him as a split field safety, 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:29.320 but also has the explosiveness to close on a receiver 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:32.000 and jar the ball loose. So he is someone to 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:35.480 me that can defend the run but also isn't a 0:10:35.520 --> 0:10:39.800 liability in terms of out there in past cover. So 0:10:39.960 --> 0:10:43.040 those guys to me really stood out in how well 0:10:43.080 --> 0:10:45.760 they played. But I also mentioned Isaiah Johnson unique story. 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:49.600 He was dominant at Dartmouth, and I thought he would 0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:52.400 have stayed at Dartmouth and left straight from there, but 0:10:52.520 --> 0:10:55.760 transferred one to you know, compete into the portal, played 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:59.400 two seasons. I believe it at Syracuse. I think he's 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:01.160 more of a strong own safety than in the corner 0:11:01.520 --> 0:11:03.640 or it could be more of a combo kind of guy. 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:08.000 But he's long, he's athletic, has good ball skills. But 0:11:08.040 --> 0:11:10.600 I remember him dominating at Dartmouth and and kind of 0:11:10.720 --> 0:11:13.600 selfishly wishing he would stay there and just you know, 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:16.600 becoming that big fish in a small pond. But you 0:11:16.679 --> 0:11:19.120 go to Syracuse, you play, but you kind of get 0:11:19.160 --> 0:11:21.120 lost in the shelfing what's going on. 0:11:21.480 --> 0:11:22.720 He ended up not getting drafted. 0:11:22.920 --> 0:11:25.680 It's funny you mentioned the conversion to potential safety. Except 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:27.240 the first note I put when I watched his tape 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:28.880 was I think this guy could move to safety and 0:11:28.880 --> 0:11:30.600 be pretty good at that spot as well. It kind 0:11:30.600 --> 0:11:32.079 of reminds me a little bit of Trill Williams, the 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:33.560 guy that we had in camp here for a couple 0:11:33.559 --> 0:11:36.360 of years who had that just imposing length and size 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:38.800 on the boundary there at Syracuse. He kind of has 0:11:38.840 --> 0:11:42.320 that similar build and temperament as Tryll Williams did. So 0:11:42.360 --> 0:11:44.800 you've already got as much information here from Emory Hunt 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:46.920 on this UDFA classes. You're gonna get an other Dolphins 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:49.200 podcast out there. Well, we ain't done Yet's go ahead 0:11:49.200 --> 0:11:50.920 and take our first break right there. Come back on 0:11:51.000 --> 0:11:53.000 the other side, and we're gonna have some follow ups 0:11:53.000 --> 0:11:54.199 for you that I know you're gonna give us some 0:11:54.240 --> 0:11:56.720 great answers here on this UDFA class for the twenty 0:11:56.760 --> 0:11:57.840 twenty four Miami Dolphins. 0:11:58.080 --> 0:11:58.600 That's next. 0:11:58.640 --> 0:12:01.240 My guest today, Emory Hunt on the Draft Time podcast, 0:12:01.280 --> 0:12:03.720 your host Travis Wingfield, brought to you by Auto Nation. 0:12:06.480 --> 0:12:08.240 I want to pick it back up here in segment 0:12:08.240 --> 0:12:10.360 two with my guests, is ay Emory Hunt talking about 0:12:10.440 --> 0:12:12.440 something that you alluded to when you were talking about 0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:15.960 Jakwan Burton, the receiver from FAU and his fit in 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:19.240 the Miami offense and Emery. Every guy go down here, 0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:22.960 whether it's draft pick, a free agent, a UDFA, they 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:24.439 all fall. 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:25.760 Under a similar umbrella. 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:27.320 And I just want to get your take on this, 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:29.840 because you can go down the ten split metric and 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:33.840 it's across the board. They're all fantastic in their ten splits. 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:37.080 The receivers obviously have speed to burn for days. The 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:39.760 running backs have a similar slashing style. I'm just curious 0:12:40.120 --> 0:12:42.360 what you make of a team that knows the type 0:12:42.360 --> 0:12:44.679 of guy they want and they go after and they 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:47.040 really hone in on that particular skill set. 0:12:47.120 --> 0:12:48.400 I'm curious what you think about that. 0:12:49.200 --> 0:12:55.199 I love that linear leadership from GM coach position coach, 0:12:55.880 --> 0:12:58.800 and you need that in order to have success because 0:12:58.840 --> 0:13:03.559 you're trying to replicate styles. And so when you see 0:13:03.760 --> 0:13:06.280 what the Dolphins have done that receiver, what they've done 0:13:06.280 --> 0:13:09.280 in the backfield with their running back room, it's one 0:13:09.360 --> 0:13:11.839 of the same. So hey, we could take Tyreek Hill 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:14.240 out for a breather or two for you know, two 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:16.920 or three plays, but the guy that's coming in is 0:13:17.080 --> 0:13:20.600 just as fast, if not maybe a half step slower 0:13:21.120 --> 0:13:23.679 than Tyreek Hill, but he's still faster than your corner. 0:13:24.080 --> 0:13:25.680 And now you're still tired. 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:28.560 On that other end, this fast dude comes in with 0:13:28.600 --> 0:13:31.200 fresh legs, hosing the same type of threat. So now 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:34.760 when we bring in arrested Tyreek Hill, you are even 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:37.520 more tired, and now you have to chase this elite speed. 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:40.400 It's crazy how they are never going to give you 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:43.320 a break in terms of speed. And that's the type 0:13:43.320 --> 0:13:46.080 of pressure that that offense puts on you, and it's 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:48.400 based off that personnel. But in order to have that, 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:51.840 you have to have, you know, everyone on the same 0:13:51.920 --> 0:13:56.640 page from GM coach, head coach, and position coach, offensive coordinator. 0:13:56.920 --> 0:13:58.440 We need these type of guys. 0:13:58.480 --> 0:14:02.080 Go and find me these type of players, and the 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:04.720 GM and his scouts go out and find those type 0:14:04.760 --> 0:14:07.040 of guys and they just bring him into Miami and 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:09.800 that's why they're able to have that success and build 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:11.959 that depth that they have across the board. 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:14.360 I think you're really seeing that, and it's it's cool 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:16.560 to see it with a new defensive coordinator, Anthony Weaver, 0:14:16.600 --> 0:14:18.560 because it kind of feels like he has a very 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:19.720 specific vision in mind. 0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:21.240 For what this defense might look like. 0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:22.880 More on that in one second, But first I want 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:24.840 to go back to Burton because I had a question 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:26.440 for you about his speed because I saw that he 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:28.160 timed it a four or five to one, But in 0:14:28.200 --> 0:14:30.720 watching him, don't it doesn't look that. It looks a 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:32.480 lot faster than that. Do you think his play speed's 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:33.800 a lot faster than four or five to one? 0:14:34.120 --> 0:14:37.080 Way faster? Yeah, he told me three out of Yeah. 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:38.840 Okay, that's about what I thought too. 0:14:39.240 --> 0:14:40.520 You know, I've seen him live and again. 0:14:40.560 --> 0:14:43.800 He returned kicks, and you know that's something in Illinois 0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:46.280 and also at FA. So if you're returning to kickoffs, 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:49.240 that means you got straight line speed, you got great speed. 0:14:49.680 --> 0:14:51.440 If you're turning punts, it means you're a little bit 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:54.760 more shifty and more elusive than than you know, fast, 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:57.320 but you could be fast and also shifty. But kickoff 0:14:57.440 --> 0:14:59.840 is like, hey, you're a straight speed and this dude 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:03.280 turn kickoffs and also was just someone that's just legitimately fast. 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:04.640 When you watch him, you know, I put him on 0:15:04.640 --> 0:15:07.040 scout notes. If he has a two way go, it's 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:10.680 a rap because you're gonna catch you flat footed or 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:12.920 trying to make a decision and he's able to explode 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:15.520 out of his breaks and create even more separation. 0:15:15.640 --> 0:15:17.680 So that's the type of speed he possesses. 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:19.880 That right there is why I love the Odell Beckham sign, 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:21.800 because he's gonna ge two way goes all day inside 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:24.120 with Reagan Walla on the perimeter. That's a different podcast 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:26.040 for a different day. Let's go back to the defensive 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:28.400 side of the football here and go back to Grayson 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:30.760 Murphy because that's the guy that really jumped off the 0:15:30.800 --> 0:15:33.920 list here to me, of everybody, all twelve undrafted rookies 0:15:33.920 --> 0:15:36.360 for the Dolphins the UCLA I think calling him an 0:15:36.440 --> 0:15:38.920 edge is almost like disingenuous because of all the you know, 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:41.720 walking around and mugging up that he did there at UCLA. 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:44.600 I'm curious how you feel like the scheme at UCLA 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:47.440 can benefit him here under coach Anthony Weaver. Because we'll 0:15:47.440 --> 0:15:49.280 talk about Chop Robinson and Mo Kamara here in just 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:51.600 a second. But man, when I watched Chop like him 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:53.880 playing over the A gap and rushing and putting those 0:15:53.880 --> 0:15:57.280 centers in an immediate peril with that first step quickness, 0:15:57.320 --> 0:15:59.640 and Mo Camarage doing the same off the edge, I 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:01.880 kind of feel like watching UCLA, there's a lot of 0:16:01.920 --> 0:16:03.600 similarities there in terms of how they used him and 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:06.480 his twin brother Gabe and Lault to rush in the quarterback. 0:16:06.520 --> 0:16:09.120 You see a kind of similar transition there from UCLA 0:16:09.200 --> 0:16:10.360 to Anthony Weaver's defense. 0:16:10.880 --> 0:16:13.680 Yeah, because he's you know, able to play with his 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:17.120 hands rather well. He could set an edge, so he 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:18.920 could be he could be across, he could be used 0:16:18.960 --> 0:16:21.400 across the front, which is why I was shocked he 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:25.320 went undrafted. So for me, it's someone that, hey, you know, 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:28.280 he was dominated at North Texas and stepped up and 0:16:28.600 --> 0:16:32.400 played dominant ball at UCLA. And the cool part is 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:35.280 he's in a situation where he can be part of 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:40.400 that rotation to where it doesn't really you don't wear 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:42.480 him down or you don't wear down anyone else that 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:45.440 you brought in. And like I mentioned earlier, the fact 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:47.240 that they were able to get a bunch of the 0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:50.400 same type of guys like he is good at the 0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:52.840 point of attack, he's good off ball if you want 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:55.240 him to be a Sam back er so to speak. 0:16:55.400 --> 0:16:57.720 So he's that cross between the sam and the edge 0:16:58.080 --> 0:17:00.840 and the fact that he can get to quarterback and 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:03.600 plays with his eyes like how we like I talked 0:17:03.600 --> 0:17:09.000 about how Lea two Latu does, like he's allowing his 0:17:09.080 --> 0:17:10.520 eyes to bring him to the football. 0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:12.280 Murphy does the same thing. 0:17:12.840 --> 0:17:15.800 And so he's not you know, he's not someone that's 0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:18.400 gonna get fooled by minis direction. Now, he's not the 0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:21.399 more explosive guy, but he's a heavy handed puncher. That 0:17:21.440 --> 0:17:25.520 Cassetta Edge probably going to be a very strong run defender, 0:17:25.880 --> 0:17:28.080 while the other two guys, the other rookies and Robinson 0:17:28.040 --> 0:17:30.080 and Kamara are going to be your higher guns to 0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:31.360 go go and get the quarterback. 0:17:31.840 --> 0:17:32.520 Really good stuff. 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:34.000 And then then every time we do this, man like 0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:36.120 you talk about how much you love scouting these these 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:38.680 college all star games. This just gets me fired to 0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:40.040 watch these guys out here on the field with the 0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:43.320 Baptist Health trading complex. I love love watching these young 0:17:43.359 --> 0:17:45.200 guys try to, you know, make their dreams come true. 0:17:45.400 --> 0:17:48.439 Last follow up question for you here, Ray Emery, that 0:17:48.560 --> 0:17:50.680 the two defensive backs you talked about, we talked about 0:17:50.680 --> 0:17:52.960 Isaiah Johns a little bit, but Storm Duck and Mark Perry, 0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:56.239 because yeah, the communication and smarts in the back end 0:17:56.320 --> 0:17:58.119 is so clear. For Mark Perry, the way he plays 0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:00.520 that position, But I'm curious. I kind of felt like 0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:03.000 their skills translate a little bit to special teams. Do 0:18:03.000 --> 0:18:04.720 you think both those guys could wind up, you know, 0:18:04.880 --> 0:18:06.800 not just carving out a spot on the roster, but 0:18:06.840 --> 0:18:09.359 maybe being core special teams guys right away. 0:18:09.800 --> 0:18:11.160 Well, that's what they're gonna have to start. 0:18:11.200 --> 0:18:13.520 And the unique part about the back end of the 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:17.879 draft and also undrafted free agents now with a change 0:18:17.880 --> 0:18:20.720 in the kickoff rules, you probably want guys that are 0:18:20.800 --> 0:18:24.280 used to traveling down in space and making open field tackles. 0:18:24.640 --> 0:18:29.399 So that screams safety, That screams outside linebackers and it streams, 0:18:29.760 --> 0:18:34.119 it screams corners that are physical, and Duck and Perry 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:37.439 check both of those boxes. And the cool part is, 0:18:38.240 --> 0:18:42.679 you know, while his run defense isn't the most consistent, 0:18:42.760 --> 0:18:44.880