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Speaker 1: going brother, awesome man, awesome, Glad to be back. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: point of view what you were there. You know, if

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Speaker 1: I find out an officer is a mustang, you know,

426
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Speaker 1: I'm looking at him like, you know, okay, you know,

427
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Speaker 1: this guy kind of knows what it was to kind

428
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Speaker 1: of be on the ground and in the mud with us.

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Speaker 1: You know, even though infantry officers do get down, you know,

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Speaker 1: even with the lack of even with the lack of

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Speaker 1: enlisted experience is but you know that to me is

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Speaker 1: just something that I'm gonna as you know, being you know,

433
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Speaker 1: someone directed under you. You know, I'm gonna look at

434
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:10,720
Speaker 1: that and I'm gonna admire that. Yeah, and you can

435
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 1: appreciate this too. Is there's there's plenty of extraordinary listed

436
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:20,480
Speaker 1: marines and service members that have master's degrees, some some

437
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Speaker 1: even higher. And it's it's not about the amount of

438
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Speaker 1: education you have. It it's really about what you want

439
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Speaker 1: to do in the military. And it really boils down

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Speaker 1: to leadership. And I always say that there is no

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Speaker 1: such thing as combat leadership, just leadership. And I never

442
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Speaker 1: subscribe to the idea or the notion that because one

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Speaker 1: had been in combat or shot at or injured, it

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Speaker 1: made them a better leader. Leaders lead in any condition.

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Speaker 1: And you can understand that although some may shine a

446
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Speaker 1: little brighter under these chaotic conditions, real leaders control the

447
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Speaker 1: situation in the absence of that chaos, and those those

448
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Speaker 1: points of boredom. You know, training fors and boredom is

449
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 1: not a mission essential task, Jason, but it's something good

450
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,920
Speaker 1: leaders have to deal with to keep the marines sharp

451
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Speaker 1: when all that madness surrounds. And great about my experience

452
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:16,360
Speaker 1: was that the leadership that was demonstrated by my marines

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Speaker 1: and the lieutenants that I served with, and and as

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Speaker 1: I rose in the rings, they made a difference between

455
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Speaker 1: life and death on most days. But they were lucky though,

456
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Speaker 1: uh they were fortunate to have some of the best

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Speaker 1: and most seasoned enlisted marines either side to guide them

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Speaker 1: along the way. Because again I never subscribed that officers

459
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Speaker 1: need to know their place, suggesting that, you know, officers

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Speaker 1: shouldn't be seen doing menial tasks that only listeners have

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Speaker 1: to do. You know, I was a part of a team,

462
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Speaker 1: and my place was always with my brains, period, and

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Speaker 1: I like to think that they welcomed that because if

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Speaker 1: there was geared to be moved, I moved it with

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Speaker 1: If there was you know, shipped to be shoveled, I

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Speaker 1: had a shovel in my hand. If there was a firefight,

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Speaker 1: I was in it. If there was a patrol was on.

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Speaker 1: That's just the way I felt I would be more

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Speaker 1: effective in a leadership role was trying to be connected

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Speaker 1: to those that I lead, and I felt it was

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Speaker 1: not only my privilege but my ultimate responsibility because I

472
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Speaker 1: was entrusted to the care and safety and welfare of

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Speaker 1: all those those young warriors. Yep. So definitely, you know,

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Speaker 1: a subscriber to the one of the our oldest mantras

475
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Speaker 1: in the Marine Corps le from the front, you know,

476
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Speaker 1: and not from the back, and totally get that. That's

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Speaker 1: and you know, and to this day, that's why you

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Speaker 1: get so much praise as as an officer, you know,

479
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 1: and we're we're always looking especially because you're that you're

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Speaker 1: somewhat of that that that father figure or that authoritative

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Speaker 1: figure to us when we're in these uh you know,

482
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Speaker 1: high threat areas, of heart threat environment. So you know,

483
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Speaker 1: we're always putting a lot of pressure on you to

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Speaker 1: kind of guide us morally. Also, like you said, you know,

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Speaker 1: when it comes to keeping steel sharp, you know what

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Speaker 1: training you know, Um, so you know it's a lot

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Speaker 1: of pressure on a marine officer, and I just want

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Speaker 1: to know how did you handle that? You know, you know,

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Speaker 1: what was your earliest age? Actually asked a good question,

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Speaker 1: what was your earlier earliest age when you actually got

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Speaker 1: commissioned and had your first uh, your first platoon. I

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Speaker 1: believe I was twenty seven years old, and so I

493
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Speaker 1: was a little older than the average bearer, uh even

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Speaker 1: as an officer, which I think give gives one a

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Speaker 1: lot of life experience. And that's something that you can't

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Speaker 1: learn in school or the military can't teach you that.

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Speaker 1: And what's what's more important to me is that that

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Speaker 1: pressure is is there. I mean it's it exists the

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Speaker 1: pressure all found and it exists not only for officers

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Speaker 1: but the young enlisted rings. And when I was in Iraq, well,

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Speaker 1: when I was in Ramadi, Iraq two thousand and six

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Speaker 1: uh in the deadliest city of of all Iraq at

503
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Speaker 1: the time, it took probably years of age and wisdom

504
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Speaker 1: to really understand that. I was a captain at the time,

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Speaker 1: a pretty senior captain at thirty six years old, and

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Speaker 1: I would look at those young marines and I would

507
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Speaker 1: task them to do things that were almost superhuman acts.

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Speaker 1: And as I wrote my book Echo and Rmadi, I

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Speaker 1: noticed a trend as I was going through in the

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Speaker 1: average age of these young men, these lance corporals and

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Speaker 1: corporals and sergeants was twenty t two years old. And

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Speaker 1: what I was asking them to do and how they

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Speaker 1: achieved it was so remarkable to me. They never let

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Speaker 1: me down in that capacity because they would fight day

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Speaker 1: in and day out and just do amazing things on

516
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Speaker 1: the battlefield and continue to take care of each other

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Speaker 1: better than anything else they'd known. And all I saw

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Speaker 1: back then was Sergeant Delgado, more Serge Smith. I didn't

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Speaker 1: see a twenty two year old kid. I just saw

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00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 1: that marine with his rifle. And again, it took years

521
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: of experience to really look back on that and realized

522
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 1: the group gravity of what I was asking these guys

523
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 1: to do was so extraordinary, and I'm eternally grateful to

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Speaker 1: how they performed on the battlefield under such chaotic conditions

525
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: that there was so much friction, as I use that

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Speaker 1: word of friction to describe the uncertainty of what we experienced.

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Speaker 1: It was just remarkable. Scott, Why why echo, Why that

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Speaker 1: unit and why that company? And was that like one

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Speaker 1: of your most I guess definitive moments in your life.

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00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,160
Speaker 1: Was just something that you just sat down and said,

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Speaker 1: you know, people need to hear about this. Well, over

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Speaker 1: twenty four years in the military, I think it was

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Speaker 1: absolutely probably the pinnacle of my career or an infantry officer,

534
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: to be able to serve in combat leaving an entire

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Speaker 1: company of over two fifty Marines, soldiers and sailors. It

536
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 1: really doesn't get any better, uh, And that's hard for

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Speaker 1: a lot of listeners understand. It is by young men

538
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 1: and women do what they do, and sort of people

539
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 1: that serve in the military, they make up less than

540
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Speaker 1: one half of one percent of the entire population in

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Speaker 1: over three million people. So the fact that they do

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Speaker 1: these things. The only analogy I use is that they

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Speaker 1: train for months and months on end, and when they're

544
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Speaker 1: they're in combat, it's game day every single day for them.

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00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: I mean, imagine the NFL football players trained every day

546
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: and practice and there was never a game on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: That's the only way I can relate it to these people.

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Speaker 1: But the reason I wrote Echo and or mahdi Um

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Speaker 1: is to honor the sacrifices of the rains that fought,

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Speaker 1: and also the families that supported us while we did

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Speaker 1: and they continue to support us. This I mean I

552
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 1: conducted almost a hundred interviews with the Rings and family

553
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Speaker 1: just to make sure that this story was told right

554
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: and it was balanced with not only the tactical but

555
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: also the emotional, because that's what's important to me, is

556
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 1: telling about the people. I don't want to read things

557
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 1: about events or things. I want to read about characters

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00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: and people that made a difference. And that's where I

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00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: think that these young men uh in their families did

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00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 1: and then for Madi in two thousands and six could

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Speaker 1: really found together by that brotherhood and the honor that

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Speaker 1: we have on a bumper, secrets and flags and the

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00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: dangers they faced every day, and it was such an environment,

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Speaker 1: and they battled in a war in which the front

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00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: line as you know, everywhere, and it was it was

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Speaker 1: a war that almost it was absent rules, and it

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Speaker 1: was marked by this undermanny chaos and a ruthless surgency

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Speaker 1: and an enemy that wore no uniform, which was equally

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Speaker 1: as a challenge those in the battlefield to fight and

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Speaker 1: to temper those young men and women on how to

571
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Speaker 1: respond to that was a real leadership challenge. So the

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00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 1: story is is my story, but it's also their story.

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Speaker 1: It's a very intimate story as I led my men

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Speaker 1: through those firefights, and I try to bring the readers

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Speaker 1: to that urban battlefield in Iraq in um how I

576
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 1: describe it in such an unvarneaged detail and the loyalty

577
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: that the Marines shared in that savagery of war that

578
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: you know left behind those uh you know, the scars

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Speaker 1: that we all offer today not only on their bodies

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Speaker 1: but also in their minds. Um. I just think it's

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Speaker 1: it's really an honor to be able to share that

582
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Speaker 1: unprecedented heard about the highlights and the prices that were

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Speaker 1: paid by both the families and the marines unlike any other.

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Speaker 1: So that's that's I thought this story was something that

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Speaker 1: I really needed to share. So there's a story of

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00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: the individuals in that unit and the sacrifices they made,

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Speaker 1: and you know, just a teamwork in general to make

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Speaker 1: sure you guys, do you know the absolute best you

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00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 1: possibly could. Yeah, that's it is. It's about the Yeah,

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00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: it's obviously about the fighting in the friction, but it's

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00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: you know, there's times where UH readers will be heartbroken,

592
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: those times will be exhilarated. There are times they'll laugh

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00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: at something, some of the crazy things that marines do,

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Speaker 1: even in the most chaatic conditions, and it's just I

595
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: think there's points. At least for me, it was really

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00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: an unforgettable account of of our our fight at its

597
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: sharpest edge when that company of Marine Jason was not

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Speaker 1: a special elite unit by any stretch of the means,

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Speaker 1: but there was this indescribable chemistry that we shared an

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Speaker 1: echo company that is remarkable, and to this day we

601
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: still stayed very connected, uh to all the Marines that

602
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: served in that company, probably because of the adversity that

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00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: we shared during that time that only those that experienced

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00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: it can understand. Yeah, and so for the UM for

605
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: the not military jargon savvy UH audience listener, audience member, UM,

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00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: can you explain um the term echo and you know

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Speaker 1: as far as how does that what role that plays

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Speaker 1: within a unit? You know, so that you know, just

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00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: break it down. Why why you why you name the

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Speaker 1: book Echo in Romani. The title of the book is

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00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: based off of Echo Company, which each battalion in the

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00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: Marine Corps designates its its rifle companies by a phonetic

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00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: letter designation. So in the second time Fourth Marines, for example,

614
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: we had Echo Company, Fox Company and Golf Company, and

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00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: you know in in three four you know we had

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Speaker 1: um you know, Lema Company, India Company and Kilo Company.

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00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: So there's fanatic letters that we use to designate it

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00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 1: and Echo and Remandy. The title that we've chose for

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Speaker 1: this book, I think plays on two fold. You know,

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00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: it's about company obviously Echo Companies, Second Italian Fourth Marines

621
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: in Ramadi, but it also speaks to those darker echoes

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00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: of what resonate with the Marines and the families after

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Speaker 1: we left the battlefield because effects of post traumatic stress

624
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: and the tragedy formath that we've endured UH losing marines.

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00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 1: It's just a reality that again is it's not some

626
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: video on Facebook about a twenty two and a push

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00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: up challenge. These are real people. There were faces and

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00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: names and men and women that were known to me personally.

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00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: In in my Italian alone, sadly, over fifty names are

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00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 1: etched in stone, on granted in various cemeteries and monuments.

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00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 1: So we shouldn't ever forget that the sacrifices that they made.

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00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: I know it's a very hard subject to talk about,

633
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: but that that loss and that that continue sacrifice that

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00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 1: is made just never needs to be forgotten. And I

635
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: always have to talk about our gold star families that

636
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 1: are such an important part to me in uh not

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00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: only writing this great story, which they shared their their

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00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: stories as well. But they just can't be described as

639
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Speaker 1: ordinary people. And I say this time and again, they're

640
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:46,240
Speaker 1: they're extraordinary people who give so much and and they

641
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: sacrifice so much, and they lose so much and they

642
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 1: continue to love so much. It's just indescribable. And you

643
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: you've lost brothers, and we felt or pain through the

644
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: loss of our fellow pains Um, but we've also felt

645
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: their love. And I felt their love so many times

646
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 1: and received it unconditionally from so many soothing voices on

647
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 1: the other end of the phone who has spoken me

648
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: over the years, not not as a marine or as

649
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 1: a commander, but as a mother or father or brother

650
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: would you know, to any son or brother. And it

651
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: has made me humble beyond words, because I've I've really

652
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 1: never felt so cared for by so many of whom

653
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: I ultimately felt indebted to, and they have continued to

654
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: unselfishly offered me a great sense of relief and compassion

655
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:44,280
Speaker 1: and forgiveness all at once, all of those life changing

656
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: events that none of us had control run the battlefield. Well,

657
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: let's talk about that forgiveness, because I think that's important

658
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: to mention because you know, considering our the majority of

659
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: us our age at that point in time, um, and

660
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: also our mindset, which is a very aggressive, you know,

661
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: aggressive mindset where basically we're just you know, we rebel

662
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: into stosterone. Um. You know, there's decisions, especially as a commander.

663
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Speaker 1: I can only imagine because you got up to the

664
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Speaker 1: ranks of field grade officer, you know, and that that

665
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: you know, you know what they say you know, more, more,

666
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: more money, more problems. Right, it's the same same thing,

667
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: you know, more rank, more responsibility. It's ridiculous at those levels,

668
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 1: you know. So the forgiveness what what what do you mean?

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Speaker 1: Do you mean like as far as having to make

670
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Speaker 1: those tough calls and look your guys in the eye

671
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: and say, you know what, that's something that had to

672
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 1: be done and then you know, after a while you

673
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 1: guys came and reconcile. Is that what you meant? Yeah? Absolutely,

674
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 1: it's an inevitable fact. That is as hard as I

675
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:50,879
Speaker 1: trained my marines, as much supervision as I gave them,

676
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 1: it's an inevitable fact when you go in combat that

677
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: you're gonna lose marines, and you have to train and

678
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 1: you have to prepare yourself for that fact because come

679
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: it is a very real thing, and there's no real

680
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 1: way to put it, but that's a very in the

681
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 1: reality intensity to escape your attention. If you're not the

682
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: moment being shot at or mortar or blown up in

683
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 1: an I D explosion or whatever else, that repetitiveness and

684
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: the boredom and the chaos that's around you just just

685
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: really can't exist. But it does, and it it really

686
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 1: doesn't seem real until you have to have the sobering

687
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: moment when you look the parents of a nineteen year

688
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,240
Speaker 1: old marine in the eye and I have to express

689
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 1: your sympathies for the loss of their son or daughter

690
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: who is ultimately your responsibility. And the fact that they

691
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: can reach out, wrap their arms around us and make

692
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: us feel so cared for is it's just remarkable. That's

693
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Speaker 1: the forgiveness that I'm talking about. It's it's really something

694
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: hard to articulate, but you feel it. And there's probably

695
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: any that don't have that, and there's some that isolate

696
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: themselves and can't deal with they're lost because they lost Jason.

697
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: And you know, we sacrificed. We signed freely, we took

698
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Speaker 1: an oath, and we decided to serve and defend and

699
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: you know under that flag, and our brothers are not

700
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Speaker 1: buried under it. But it's a choice and a sacrifice

701
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Speaker 1: that we made and that the brave warriors that serve

702
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: our country make willingly. But our gold star families they lost,

703
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: they did not have that. And that's a distinct difference

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Speaker 1: that I tell anyone that you know that's listen. So

705
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Speaker 1: I think it's important to give you this platform because

706
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: I think you have so much to offer. Um, what

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Speaker 1: what if advice would you give a young officer coming

708
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 1: into the Marine Corps or coming into the military in general,

709
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Speaker 1: one going into the infantry field. Be authentic and it's

710
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 1: not just about the individual marine. It's all about the

711
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 1: individual marine and that's the most important thing that they

712
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: always need to remember. I always try to put the

713
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Speaker 1: needs of those that I was entrusted to leave above

714
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Speaker 1: my own. And if you do that, you can't go wrong.

715
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Speaker 1: But I will say this to you, and I've said

716
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Speaker 1: this before, is that no one's perfect. I most certainly

717
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: was not perfect. And I will admit, probably more than

718
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 1: most does I'm not on active duty anymore, that I

719
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 1: had more of my share of screw ups in struggles

720
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Speaker 1: in throughout my career, both enlisted an officer. But the

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Speaker 1: advice is this, is that there are times in life

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Speaker 1: when everyone's whether it's in daily life or whether it's

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Speaker 1: throughout your career. Um. You know, again, I have my

724
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: share of challenges in my share of struggles. But I

725
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 1: try and write and in my book Body, But I

726
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: think the lesson that I learned not only while I

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00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 1: was on that in the rinkorp. But over time, you know,

728
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Speaker 1: I found out that that that pattern of risky behavior

729
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Speaker 1: that I was so accustomed to, which was also extremely

730
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Speaker 1: dangerous and very detriment of my health, both mentally and physical. Uh.

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Speaker 1: I thrived on that and again, like I said earlier,

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Speaker 1: even as a young child, that took those risks and

733
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Speaker 1: that thrill uh, and that feeling never dissipated as it's

734
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Speaker 1: all over into my ill life and as a marine

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Speaker 1: um it was completely acceptable lifestyle for most in the

736
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Speaker 1: Rine Corps and almost embraced by the Marines I started with,

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Speaker 1: both enlisted and possibly and I think the biggest challenge

738
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Speaker 1: for me throughout my life of high risk and that

739
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 1: type of friction and that uncertainty of combat in the

740
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Speaker 1: fast pace was really the absence of that friction when

741
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 1: I transition Rain Corps. That's what I had a difficult

742
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: time adjusting to because it was never the fighting the firefights,

743
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 1: or lamenting the dead bodies or losing sleep. That wasn't

744
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: it for me. It was the lack of friction because

745
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:08,280
Speaker 1: there's absolutely no way to recreate or replicate that type

746
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:12,800
Speaker 1: of adrenaline or excitement that any is really the toughest

747
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:18,240
Speaker 1: battle um So, I think that's important that young marines

748
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Speaker 1: and officers understand that there's times in life that I've slipped,

749
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,399
Speaker 1: because that's life. Life slippery, and there's points in your

750
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 1: career in life that you lose traction. You said, well,

751
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: and for me, it was in the process to share

752
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 1: those times in my life. But it's a decision I

753
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 1: made and right about pain painfully sometimes, but it was

754
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 1: done so only in the hopes that others can learn

755
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: that it's all right not to be perfect. It's all

756
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 1: right to know you're gonna fall at some point. I've fallen.

757
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 1: But the real measure of success, and this is not

758
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: just a cliche, it's picking yourself back up, carrying on

759
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 1: with whatever that mission is, whether it's in your career,

760
00:41:56,239 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: in the military or any lot in life. Um but,

761
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: I think through age and wisdom again, you feel it

762
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 1: coming as you lose ground. You know that traction and

763
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 1: you mentioned this earlier because most veterans will ignore it,

764
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 1: thinking that they are absolutely impervious to the effects of gravity,

765
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: because that's how we're trained. And when you lose traction

766
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,879
Speaker 1: that ground beneath you, make no mistake about it, You're

767
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: gonna land hard and some land harder than others, but

768
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: each fault you just have to continue to learn and adjust.

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Speaker 1: And I think that throughout the process of writing ramadi Um,

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Speaker 1: and despite those con weighted moments of humility, it made

771
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 1: me feel more human and it allowed me to identify

772
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: those slipper ears in life that were on the road

773
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: ahead of me. So that's a long answer to a

774
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 1: short question, because I think I've got plenty of experience

775
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 1: and I offer advice. But that's a great thing about advice.

776
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: Take the advice you like, don't take the advice you

777
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 1: don't like, because everybody's got it bucked. So um, there's

778
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 1: good advice and bad advice in which we can learn

779
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: from both. So one of the last things I'm wondering is,

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00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: as you're wrapping this up, Scott, is you know, after

781
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: a highly decorated career, twenty four years of service, what

782
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,720
Speaker 1: made you say, you know what, I'm moving on to

783
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 1: another part of my life. And what are you up

784
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 1: to now, you know, besides obviously putting out this book,

785
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 1: which we're really excited for. Well, the decision to transition

786
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 1: from the military. I always said, you know, hey, when

787
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: it stops being fun, you need to move on and

788
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: after after a really great career, I was at that

789
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: point where I decided I I wanted to move on

790
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 1: and challenge myself. And I think that's what marines learned

791
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 1: throughout their career is continually challenge yourself. So that's what

792
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 1: I made the decision to do. And as a disabled

793
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 1: that you know, I had some you know, impact related injury,

794
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 1: uh you know, and so you know, I just felt

795
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,320
Speaker 1: that that was wearing on me as well and issued

796
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 1: and everything. So I transition and I don't look back.

797
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: And I worked in the private sector for a little

798
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: bit and then my real passion was telling this story.

799
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 1: And that's what I woke up wanting to do every morning,

800
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 1: was to share great stories about the great things are

801
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: military service members due and to help veterans. And I

802
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: do that not only through my writing by public speaking,

803
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 1: but also through charity work and interaction. The executive director

804
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 1: of Save the Brave, which helps connect veterans through outreach

805
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 1: programs and it's a certified nonprofit that one of my

806
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 1: junior Marines started from Echo Company. Second Italian fourth Marines

807
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: Nicolas I. Uh. We were saw gunners, who is a

808
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 1: machine light machine gunner and uh is just doing amazing

809
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: things now. So helping veterans and staying connected to them

810
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: really makes me happy. That's my path question. And I'm

811
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 1: very fortunate not only to be connected with such great

812
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 1: organizations like Save the Brave and just yesterday I was

813
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: invited up to another event with the Semper five Fund

814
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,240
Speaker 1: and we are the mighty that are doing amazing things

815
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 1: to help veterans, uh, And that that really is the

816
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: best feeling in the world. And there's so many people

817
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: that don't know how to help charities. Something is just

818
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 1: writing a big check, which we love big checks, don't

819
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 1: get me wrong. But it's also involved during your time

820
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 1: going up on Saturday drive to go show up at

821
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 1: an event and support and really put some skin in

822
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: the game and be there for the Marines or the

823
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 1: veterans and listen to their stories, or help move tables,

824
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 1: do whatever, golf, give money, but put some skin in

825
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 1: the game game. It's not just a bumper sticker that

826
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: says I support our troops. It's much much more than that. Absolutely,

827
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: I think that's an important message. And you know, on

828
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: some level it's preaching to the choir of this audience,

829
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: because I think this audience truly does realize that. And

830
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Speaker 1: I know that most of the guys who listen, whether

831
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: there are veterans themselves or civilians, they go out there

832
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: and they do do the work in helping veterans. And

833
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: we always try to give a spotlight to charities doing

834
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,760
Speaker 1: great things and veterans doing great things for their fellow veterans.

835
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:17,879
Speaker 1: And you know, you deserve to put that story out.

836
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:21,720
Speaker 1: I think after nearly two and a half decades of service,

837
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 1: you know it's it's time for most people to step

838
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: back and say ten deployment, Yeah, ten deployments, to step

839
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 1: back and say, hey, I want to tell people this story.

840
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,439
Speaker 1: I want to help out my fellow veterans. And uh,

841
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 1: you know, we salute you for it. The The website

842
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 1: is Echo in Ramadi dot com, Facebook and Twitter at

843
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: Echo in Ramanti. Will definitely have you back on Scott

844
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: as the book comes closer. Because the book comes out February,

845
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 1: please preorder it. You know that helps authors like yourself out.

846
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 1: The book once again is Echo and Ramadi, the firsthand

847
00:46:56,000 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: story of US Marines and the Rocks Deadly at City.

848
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 1: Anything else. Before we wrap this up, I just want

849
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: to say thanks to you and Jay Season for having

850
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: me on the program again. It was really a pleasure.

851
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 1: Love coming on programs like this and I can't thank

852
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: you enough. Look forward to being back after the book

853
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 1: comes out February. Absolutely, and if you're ever in New York,

854
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 1: we'd we'd love to have you in the studio. I'll

855
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: be out there in favbruark. Hey. Once again, thanks for

856
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 1: coming on. And I did notice, f y if what

857
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 1: we send you off, you are catching one hell of

858
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 1: a buzz on Facebook. Congratulations and hopefully your pre sales

859
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 1: reflect that. Man, definitely, right before your book drops, you

860
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:38,399
Speaker 1: gotta come back on. Yeah, we're doing good. So thanks

861
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 1: thanks for the voting. Confidence. Man, I appreciate it. You know,

862
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 1: on multiple angles how difficult it is to be in

863
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 1: combat and serve and transition and to write a book

864
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: and man, it's just yeah, it feels like you're being

865
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 1: stretched all over the place. I know you get it,

866
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 1: all right, brother, So well, real honor and a pleasure

867
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 1: having Scott using on. And man, what a background I

868
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 1: do have to say to go that what could you

869
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 1: imagine if being being in service that long? That's ridiculous.

870
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 1: And like I said, the amount of responsibility once you

871
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,439
Speaker 1: get up to that point is just overwhelming. I'm pretty sure.

872
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: And you know he did it successfully with honor, and

873
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,280
Speaker 1: you know, even to the point where he has lessons

874
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 1: to you know, uh, to break off everyone else trying

875
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,280
Speaker 1: to follow in his footsteps. Good job. Most of the guys,

876
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: I know, whether it's you, Jack Brandon, Serve, you know,

877
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 1: I'd say at the very max, maybe fifteen years. It's

878
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: usually much less than that. Like, what do you think

879
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: drive as a guy to go twenty four years to

880
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 1: to stay at this goal and keep advancing in the military.

881
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,280
Speaker 1: It's it's got to be a passion at that point.

882
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 1: It's it's got to be that thing that you live for,

883
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 1: you know. Um. Also it all depends on, you know,

884
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 1: how much are you in the immediate threat? You know,

885
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: So for guys in so calm could community, um you

886
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 1: got like you got guys in you know, Green Beret

887
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 1: Seal teams are just operators until you know, they're well

888
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 1: into their senior enlisted ranks, and that that can constitute

889
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 1: anywhere from you know, fifteen to twenty plus years and

890
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 1: they're still operating. So you know the reason why I

891
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 1: would say more SF green Beret guys, you know, type

892
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: get out at that twelve or fifteen years or whatever

893
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: what have you is because they're just their lifestyle that

894
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 1: high threat is such, it is so so much, it's

895
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 1: so accelerated that they think a lot about their mortality,

896
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 1: so that in and of itself becomes wearing mentally, so

897
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 1: that you're gonna have to make that decision across you know,

898
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:48,240
Speaker 1: at some point to just get out, but um at years.

899
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 1: You know, at some point you you have to transition

900
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 1: into the administrative logistical portion of the military and the

901
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 1: inner workings and the command and control structure of the

902
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 1: military where you're not on the front line as much

903
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 1: per se. You know, you're just in the backgrounds making

904
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 1: short things. I ran, so I think it's probably a

905
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: little bit easier, a little bit more of a neutral

906
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 1: setting that you can just coast out. But you know,

907
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,720
Speaker 1: that's that that being said, you know, I think guys

908
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 1: with the background that we come from, you know, you

909
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 1: won't see that twenty some plus years. You know, you

910
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 1: will for other guys that are like groomed for commands,

911
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 1: you know, mainly officers and stuff. But with the enlisted manages,

912
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 1: I don't think your knees can hang that long. You

913
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But well, I do think of

914
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 1: a guy like Terry Shaphard, you know, Green Beret just

915
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 1: pretty recently retired, which I thought it was, you know, remarkable.

916
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 1: So there are those, there's there's there's examples of guys

917
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 1: that are, like I said, that's their passion. They're not

918
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 1: going anywhere else. And there's there's guys that are like

919
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 1: in the Tier one teams that, dude, where else are

920
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 1: you gonna go? You're the man, and you know you're

921
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 1: the man, and you're living in the moment. You know,

922
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 1: you're like instead of being you know, praise as a

923
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 1: hero for you know, actions that you did prior to

924
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 1: you know whatever, you know, you're you're there, you're in it.

925
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 1: No one knows you, but you're actively in the fight.

926
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 1: Like that to them is so attractive. They're gonna stay

927
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,240
Speaker 1: there as long as they're willing to fight. My point

928
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 1: is the moment you're out of the fight and you

929
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 1: have to start getting into the background and the inner

930
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 1: workings of running the machine and keeping the machine oiled,

931
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 1: which I mean is the bigger picture of the military.

932
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 1: Whatever d D you're working in. You know, that gets

933
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 1: kind of mundane, you know, what I mean. And for

934
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 1: guys that you know, live that's such a high high

935
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 1: pace or high peak point of testosterone, that ship is torture.

936
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 1: Well with that throw a punch of the week. I

937
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,240
Speaker 1: I I feel like this was a fun one, I guess,

938
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 1: but I really do hate when political correctness seeps into

939
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 1: like embedded parts of the culture that people just love.

940
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 1: So I just couldn't believe coming across this story. So

941
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 1: a guy made a documentary talking about how offensive a

942
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 1: Pooh of a character was on The Simpsons and this

943
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 1: Indian stereotype of him, you know, doing yoga and the

944
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 1: cow stuff and him working at the quickly Moore which

945
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: is like seven and eleven. But I feel like this

946
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 1: has always been part of the humor at the show.

947
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 1: I am not throat punching this guy putting out the documentary.

948
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: I can't believe that the Simpsons are considering caving into

949
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 1: this pressure of either drastically altering the character of a

950
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 1: Pooh or just getting rid of him. I mean, I

951
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 1: feel like every animated show and the Simpsons were innovators

952
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 1: in this pokes fawn at stereotypes. You know, you have

953
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 1: the you have the doughnut eating cop who is oblivious

954
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: to everything. Our cops gonna say this is offensive to

955
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 1: law enforcement. You know, I don't think they would because

956
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 1: they're not pussies, but you know, yeah, this is. And

957
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: this is also why I think South Park is such

958
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 1: a superior show now because they've constantly said fun, political

959
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 1: correct this. Yeah, I think it's becoming it's not coming

960
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,959
Speaker 1: it is. It is something that we enjoy as taboo,

961
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 1: but it's becoming more so that in in that the

962
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 1: the the media or whatever's out there right now attacking manhood,

963
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:17,240
Speaker 1: you know, attacking our our beliefs and just not taking

964
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 1: yourself seriously and chuckling and having a good time. And

965
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 1: you know, it's just you don't have to keep being

966
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 1: PC about everything. There's a lot of us that feel

967
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 1: that way. I think there's an attack on that and

968
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 1: I think that stuff. You know, it's it's taboo for

969
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 1: us to watch because it's funny, but you know, it

970
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 1: is to a point offensive to some people. It's just,

971
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:38,399
Speaker 1: you know, at what point do you want to say,

972
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: don't take yourself too serious? You know, I think it's

973
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:44,240
Speaker 1: it's comical. That's why, you know, I agree, it's comical.

974
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: It's funny, but you know, I also see the other side,

975
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: is what I'm trying to get out. I also see

976
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 1: the point. So I don't know, man, because you know

977
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 1: how many kids getting made fun of with that accent

978
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 1: in school, you know what I mean? Yeah, but I'm thrown.

979
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,959
Speaker 1: I got you personal a uh you know. And that's

980
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: why I've always loved South Park because I think that

981
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 1: they took over where the Simpsons left off. Simpsons has

982
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 1: not been a great show for quite a few years,

983
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 1: in my opinion, and South Park is constantly on the

984
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 1: edge of offending absolutely everybody. Everyone gets used as scientologists

985
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 1: to black people, you know, and they even wanted as far.

986
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 1: The only time South Park was ever censored, and it

987
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 1: was not up to them, is when they showed a

988
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: lot and Comedy Central censored it because that was the

989
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 1: height of the Charlie Hebdose stuff and you know, all

990
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 1: this crazy shit going on. So they were scared for

991
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 1: Matt Stone and Trey Parker. But they personally wanted to

992
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 1: show a cartoon of Mohammed and I shouldn't say a wow,

993
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 1: I was you know, they wanted to show up a

994
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 1: cartoon of the prophet Mohammed because they've always maintained that

995
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,799
Speaker 1: we're gonna offend whoever we want. But I feel like

996
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 1: that's not the case. I I think there's there's a

997
00:54:56,040 --> 00:55:03,359
Speaker 1: no joke, intentional avoidance of the stereotyping of the the

998
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 1: Islamic extreme always done it, that's the thing. Yeah, with

999
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 1: the Saddam in Hell and all that other stuff, the

1000
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 1: Sama bin Laden and then also um and what's his

1001
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 1: name again? Well I'm forgetting who who was um Alzar hearing?

1002
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,839
Speaker 1: You know, with the Family Guy episode, and then they

1003
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:25,359
Speaker 1: wanted to show a cartoon of Muhammad. They personally were

1004
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:28,240
Speaker 1: all for it, and Comedy Central censored it. To be honest,

1005
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 1: I've always maintained and I know will Cal feels this way.

1006
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 1: South Park, I feel has always been a very conservative show.

1007
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 1: It's always been very conservative leaning, and it's positist. And

1008
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 1: that's why people don't like it, because they are they

1009
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 1: go out of their way to offend liberals, but they

1010
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 1: also will offend everybody, and and I've always loved that

1011
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: about it, and I feel like that's like that's the

1012
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 1: beauty of It's funny. It's almost like that free speech stuff.

1013
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 1: It's a double edged sword. I mean, I want to

1014
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 1: hear some funny ship. You know, just because it's on

1015
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 1: national radio or on television doesn't mean that you have

1016
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:02,839
Speaker 1: to cater to everyone, you know, and that oh, I'm

1017
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 1: I have to watch who I offend with this, you know.

1018
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 1: So I agree that it's it's pretty ridiculous that if

1019
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:15,320
Speaker 1: they consistently uh use you know, stereotypes for their material

1020
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 1: in their comedy, that don't don't change it now, just

1021
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 1: stick to who you are. But I do realize that

1022
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 1: it's it's to a point where I could see how

1023
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 1: someone would be offended by you understand what I'm saying.

1024
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 1: I could see, I do. I'm just so surprised to

1025
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 1: hear a more PC Jason. It's not it's just like

1026
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 1: I feel it because it's like maybe, like maybe not

1027
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 1: to do an entire fucking documentary on how you know

1028
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 1: a poo is being portrayed or whatever, and that somehow,

1029
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 1: you know, disrespect your entire culture. I don't want to

1030
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 1: watch a entire hour of your point, you know. But

1031
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 1: I don't even care about this guy making it. I

1032
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 1: can't believe that the Simpsons would even consider. That's what

1033
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:56,880
Speaker 1: I'm saying. If you're gonna, if you're gonna if you're

1034
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 1: gonna reneg on who you are in your consistency. That's

1035
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 1: where you serve to throw punch on that. I mean,

1036
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 1: because if you feel a certain way about your material

1037
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 1: and your your your work of art, the stick with it.

1038
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 1: I agree. I wrote this down, you know, while I

1039
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 1: was kind of writing notes. I know that Sam Simon,

1040
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 1: who died, you know it was one of the creators

1041
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 1: of the Simpsons, was a very liberal guy. You know.

1042
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 1: He was vegan, very pro animal activists. He spent like

1043
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:26,439
Speaker 1: his fortune on protecting animals and all this stuff. And yeah,

1044
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 1: he was a very left wing guy, but he helped

1045
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 1: create these characters. Um, you know, and I don't think

1046
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:36,919
Speaker 1: it was ever done with the intention of being offensive. Also, yeah,

1047
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 1: and when the Simpsons first started out, you know, in

1048
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 1: the eighties, it was considered a very edgy show. They

1049
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 1: were meant to be edgy. There's a even audio out

1050
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 1: there of President Bush saying I want um the first

1051
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 1: President Bush h W saying I want American families to

1052
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 1: be less like the Simpsons and more like I think

1053
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 1: it was the Waltons or something, some show that no

1054
00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 1: one even remembers, you know what I mean. So it's

1055
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 1: like they went from being this this edgy show. They

1056
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 1: were never like South Park where they went out of

1057
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 1: their way to offend everybody. But to go from doing

1058
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 1: something that was edgy when you first created the inception

1059
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 1: of it to now saying we need to please everybody,

1060
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not okay. And it usually doesn't roll over

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Speaker 1: well with the audience as well. I mean, that's when

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Speaker 1: show start getting canceled, you know, when they started like,

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Speaker 1: you know, just not being true to their core audience.

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Speaker 1: Although I don't see the Simpsons ever getting canceled, which

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Speaker 1: is almost a shame because I feel like they had

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Speaker 1: a really long run of amazing shows and then around

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Speaker 1: that time that the movie came out and all that stuff,

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Speaker 1: it just went very downhill. Just my opinion. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: there's some die hard viewers and Simpsons out there, but

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Speaker 1: knowing this audience, I think you guys all agree on

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Speaker 1: the apou thing. Yeah, maybe taking it way too serious,

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Speaker 1: you know, And we've had stereotypes of you know, uh, Indian,

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Speaker 1: the Indian culture for you know, ever in television. I mean,

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Speaker 1: look at Andy Kousman's character on Taxi. You know that

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Speaker 1: was pretty outlandish, you know what I mean. But at

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Speaker 1: that point, you know what I mean, And it's different today. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and it's it's different today. Um. I think the whole

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Speaker 1: South Park and the you know Simpsons thing, it's it's

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Speaker 1: it's straight to the point. There's no like you know,

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Speaker 1: uh fairy telling it or you know, kind of it's

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Speaker 1: smoothing out the edges, and it really is like, you know,

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Speaker 1: his wife will show up with eight babies kind of stuff,

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Speaker 1: and it's like that's the stereotype that they have a

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Speaker 1: lot of children. I think South Park, as long as

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Speaker 1: they're on the air, though, will always be waving that flag,

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Speaker 1: you know, in the face of political correctness, saying we're

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Speaker 1: not we're not gonna cater to that. I can't wait, honestly,

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Speaker 1: and I don't see it in the near future. I

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Speaker 1: just can't wait for a time where this is just

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Speaker 1: not even a topic for us to talk about it anymore,

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Speaker 1: because it's just like, let each let each person be

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Speaker 1: who they want to be, man, and if someone wants

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Speaker 1: to laugh at that, so be it. As long as

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