WEBVTT - Episode 390 w/ DMC 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:16.160 He is drinks chants, motherfucking podcast makes He's a legendary 0:00:16.239 --> 0:00:16.960 queens rapper. 0:00:17.079 --> 0:00:18.800 He ain't s agreed as your boy in O r E. 0:00:18.920 --> 0:00:21.960 He's a Miami hip hop mionneer up as d J 0:00:22.120 --> 0:00:24.599 e f N. Together they drink it up with some. 0:00:24.520 --> 0:00:26.480 Of the biggest players you know what I mean, and. 0:00:26.480 --> 0:00:31.000 The most professional unprofessional podcast and your number one source 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:31.800 for drunk. 0:00:31.920 --> 0:00:35.920 Drink chans post days New Year's Csten, It's time for 0:00:36.159 --> 0:00:36.920 drink Champions. 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:38.839 Drink up, motherfuck. 0:00:44.520 --> 0:00:46.239 Would a good be hoping this super This is your 0:00:46.280 --> 0:00:47.120 boy in O R E. 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:48.680 What up his DJ e f N. 0:00:48.760 --> 0:00:51.160 This is Midle Tapa, crazy wall Y Happy Hour, Drinks 0:00:51.520 --> 0:00:57.680 Yeppy Hour, make some Nu. Now, when me and e 0:00:57.840 --> 0:00:59.680 FN started this show, we said that we wanted to 0:00:59.720 --> 0:01:02.480 highlight like icons, we wanted to highlight legends. We want 0:01:02.520 --> 0:01:05.080 to highlight people who paved the way for us. Now, 0:01:05.080 --> 0:01:06.680 when we talk about this brother that we were about 0:01:06.720 --> 0:01:09.119 to introduce in a lot of ways, if it wasn't 0:01:09.120 --> 0:01:11.480 for him, they might not be a drink champs because 0:01:11.720 --> 0:01:16.040 of the DJ, you following the DJ, I following the MC, 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:20.280 and us you know, somewhat calling ourselves, you know, a 0:01:20.319 --> 0:01:24.039 different version of them. These people have. They come from 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:27.360 my barrel, They come from my hood. One of my 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:30.600 first inspirations, I remember me buying a fake leather jacket. 0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:34.840 It was pletho. I didn't know there was a such 0:01:34.920 --> 0:01:38.399 thing at the time. I put it on and it 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:41.319 didn't feel right. I had to figure it. But I 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:43.800 was trying to imitate them. I went and got gazelles, 0:01:43.959 --> 0:01:46.400 I went and did everything. I went and got the hats. 0:01:46.480 --> 0:01:48.320 I wanted to be like them, and in a lot 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:51.840 of ways, if it wasn't for them, it wouldn't be me. 0:01:52.040 --> 0:01:55.040 It wouldn't be this show. These guys are legends. They 0:01:55.040 --> 0:02:00.360 are icons. They are tycoons. They are the definition of pop. 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:05.000 They are the definition of of of keeping it real. 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:08.000 They are the definition of legends. They are a definition 0:02:08.080 --> 0:02:10.079 of icons. When I think of this, when I think 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:13.360 of these people, that's who I got. When my dictionary, 0:02:13.360 --> 0:02:15.840 when I look up icon, that's who I see. In 0:02:15.880 --> 0:02:17.280 case you don't know who the fuck were talking about, 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:19.639 We're talking about the one, the only, motherfucking d m 0:02:19.760 --> 0:02:29.120 c yo. I got a lie, crazy, what what is this? Okay? 0:02:29.200 --> 0:02:31.640 I want to start with this. This is a comic. 0:02:32.440 --> 0:02:34.920 Holy comic book I made for a song that I 0:02:34.919 --> 0:02:38.800 did with Chuck Dy, iced T and Jesse Jeff. He produced. 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:42.720 It was Freddy rap on this one. He did okay. 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:44.679 He was like, yo, I got icy Chuck Dy and 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:47.320 d J J Jeff and d m C in the room. 0:02:47.120 --> 0:02:49.760 I don't need to be on it because he was 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:52.799 like a fan, like he couldn't believe the moment. Song 0:02:52.840 --> 0:02:55.440 inspired the comic book. Yeah, the song is fun the 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:58.280 comic book. Yeah, because bum was like, you guys the 0:02:58.360 --> 0:02:59.240 my superheroes. 0:02:59.680 --> 0:03:02.040 Yeah, you guys are my superheroes. Let's face anoy for that, 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:06.400 spacenoy for that. So let's let's take it from the beginning, right. 0:03:07.560 --> 0:03:10.959 We just had Leo Cohns on right, and Leo Leo 0:03:11.120 --> 0:03:16.240 used to share rooms. He was yes, and he was 0:03:16.280 --> 0:03:18.240 only seeing with me because that was in neat cleaning. 0:03:19.840 --> 0:03:24.600 So we had him on and his claim to fame 0:03:24.720 --> 0:03:27.280 or his first you know a thing in this music 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:31.200 business was he said role managing you guys. And then 0:03:31.240 --> 0:03:34.680 I asked him, I said, how did you become road 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:36.840 manager for run DMC and he said simply because he 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:39.760 had a passport. Yeah, was that how it happened? 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:40.160 Well? 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:44.560 Yeah, because our first manager got fired. Oh wow, and 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:46.680 then we needed a road manager and Lee was like, 0:03:46.720 --> 0:03:48.560 I'll do it correct and it was like, do you 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:52.440 have a passport? But what was he But prior to that, well, 0:03:52.640 --> 0:03:58.360 Leo was in promoting hip hop parties. Really did have 0:03:58.440 --> 0:04:00.040 long hair. I feel like he had a long. 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:04.320 You know, he didn't have hair. 0:04:04.400 --> 0:04:06.880 No, he was just a younger version of rocket hair 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:09.440 with this guy and had this hip hop club in 0:04:09.720 --> 0:04:13.360 l a Wow, and once a week he would throw 0:04:13.440 --> 0:04:16.520 hip hop parties. So he booked run DMC. And when 0:04:16.520 --> 0:04:19.839 he booked run DMC, we played the show. You know, 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:22.000 Damn Master Jay rest in peace. He was like, Yo, 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:24.839 come hang with us. So Leo just started hanging out 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:27.440 with us, and then I think he booked us again. 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:31.240 But his was crazy after he booked run DMC because 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:33.440 look now he got run DMC, right, you know what 0:04:33.440 --> 0:04:35.599 I'm saying, and it starts calling everybody I see this 0:04:35.680 --> 0:04:37.880 and that. But we were like to you know this, 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:41.120 we was We was the ones that had all the 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:45.560 hope to you know, part the red sea for hip hop. 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:51.520 So Lea was funny every day he would call deaf 0:04:51.640 --> 0:04:56.160 jail after he booked Run DMC. Every go leo this, 0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:57.880 and NBA people hang up on him. 0:04:57.920 --> 0:05:02.320 He called back the mad Russell now Russell for assistance. 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:05.360 So what had happened was he just woke up one 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:07.520 day and just came to New York, showed up his 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:10.279 office and we would go to death Gym every day, 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:12.880 show up at the office. This and then Russell was funny. 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:16.680 Russell would just give him crazy ship to do and 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:18.560 he would make it happen right, right. 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:19.240 So we had this. 0:05:20.560 --> 0:05:22.880 One of Jay's friends was in romanage, but he got 0:05:22.920 --> 0:05:25.880 fired because he was smoking crack on the plane. 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:27.560 This is noise smoking crack on. 0:05:27.480 --> 0:05:33.680 The plane crack, But this is like one crack want 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:37.560 I guess remember when crack first came up, he was 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:38.320 smoking woolies. 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:40.240 You know, a lot of. 0:05:41.760 --> 0:05:45.000 A lot of normal people. But when it started turning 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:47.440 the crack they was able to stop from in the beginning. 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:53.960 But yeah, the Jay's friend road manager was a crack fiend. 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:56.200 The first day he spoke, he had to smoke it 0:05:56.279 --> 0:05:56.800 on a plane. 0:05:56.960 --> 0:05:59.080 So he got fired. But this was the time where 0:05:59.080 --> 0:06:01.640 you were suppos cigarettes a plane. Yes, okay, yeah, I've 0:06:01.640 --> 0:06:04.760 been traveling since there was and that shit made no 0:06:04.800 --> 0:06:12.919 sense because everybody's right here. Remember remember the other line 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:16.599 USA Express Okay, okay, which directly the lad y'all remember 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:18.240 that you would just take all your ship and get 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:20.640 on a plane. So long story short, the manager got 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:23.680 fired and Leo was always around. Okay. 0:06:23.720 --> 0:06:26.360 First he would call every day. Then he showed up 0:06:26.640 --> 0:06:30.720 just hanging out the office. Now, for anybody listening, that's 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:35.000 very aggressive. Yeah, in that room all too right, you 0:06:35.040 --> 0:06:38.719 know what I'm saying. Cousins, Look, yes, a man on 0:06:38.720 --> 0:06:42.919 the mission. So we needed a road manager. I'll do 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:45.440 it all right. And the question was you had a passport? 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:48.520 And then ever since then, Wow, that's how it was, 0:06:48.600 --> 0:06:49.200 you know what I'm saying. 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:50.840 For me, it was like a blip. It was like 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:54.320 Leo in New York was my role manage, shared movies 0:06:54.360 --> 0:06:56.400 with me, and in the next day they called them an 0:06:56.440 --> 0:07:00.479 executive Wow, which is a beautiful thing. Now, when I 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:05.400 signed a deaf jam, I remember me walking in the building. Remember, 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:07.760 I of God, He's telling me, he's like, you signed 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:09.840 the death jam. I said yeah. He said, well, don't 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:11.880 celebrate because you ain't win nothing. I was like, damn, 0:07:11.880 --> 0:07:14.960 that was hard. And then I went to Leoll's office 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:17.880 and Leon had this picture in his office with a 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:21.960 bloody nose, and I said to Leon, did you have 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:24.400 a fight, And he goes, no, I did so much 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:25.200 blow that night. 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:31.000 He said, he's in the road a lot of lot 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:33.240 a lot of coke, like a whole lot of a 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:37.000 lot of a lot of and my man Combat Jack. 0:07:38.680 --> 0:07:41.160 Recipes, Yes, great, so this and that. 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:50.560 Man Cow from Chicago, big radio journalistic personality. Me and 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:54.559 Combat and man Col we said, please, people, little kids, 0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:58.640 boys and girls, don't take this wrong way. And he 0:07:58.720 --> 0:08:00.720 said it though, Man Col said them and me and 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:02.480 Combat we verified this. 0:08:02.440 --> 0:08:05.400 On his show. You know, the coke in the eighties 0:08:05.520 --> 0:08:08.840 was real good. Did you say the coke in the eighties, 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:11.040 I'm keeping up right. 0:08:11.120 --> 0:08:16.440 For people it was it was it was like they 0:08:16.600 --> 0:08:23.480 cared about Did it influence the music? No, to coke 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:26.240 was everywhere. For Leo to say that, that ship was 0:08:26.560 --> 0:08:27.160 every where. 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:29.800 We used to just go to radio stations to give 0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:32.800 the program directors coke. I don't think it was even 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:34.199 illegal when it first came on the scenes. 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:36.520 What it was it was, it was it was an 0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:40.839 upscale social it was it was champagne, right. 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:43.680 So I mean it's wrong for me to say that. 0:08:43.760 --> 0:08:46.000 So it's like me saying, you know, the champagne back 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:49.600 then was very good. Right, that champagne has got has 0:08:49.679 --> 0:08:55.640 gotten better, right, coke has gotten worse. But for Leo 0:08:55.720 --> 0:09:00.439 to say that coke was every way like it was everywhere. 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:04.320 Man, it's oh man when we came here, when we 0:09:04.360 --> 0:09:06.480 came here on the raising, hell too, we ain't see 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:09.240 for three days running. 0:09:09.280 --> 0:09:12.880 You see hod L B C. But l didn't get high. 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:16.280 But yo, I was doing it. Yeah, L was in 0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:19.600 the gym every morning. Lion said he had had it. 0:09:19.600 --> 0:09:22.839 It was hereditary. 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:29.400 He said, I get all. He's there getting like that. 0:09:29.440 --> 0:09:31.800 But you know, the coke was everywhere. Forhlil to say that, 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:35.600 I a lot of a whole lot of. 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:39.520 Like Dad, I keep it real too, okay where I'm at, 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:42.080 Like we had a high school. If you was able 0:09:42.120 --> 0:09:44.239 to go back and talk to the young Daryl mcdanneus 0:09:44.240 --> 0:09:46.560 when you first started the don't spend so much money 0:09:46.600 --> 0:09:47.040 on drugs. 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:51.520 You know a lot of money, probably half a mill 0:09:51.720 --> 0:09:55.040 and half him three hundred and seventy two thousand. 0:09:54.760 --> 0:09:57.080 Me and sure was giving you for free. 0:09:57.200 --> 0:10:00.480 Oh yeah, yeah, okay, cold ship just to know a 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:07.560 drug dealer. He looked at me like, I'm not sure, 0:10:09.920 --> 0:10:14.400 and I feel like is gonna come out Leo for 0:10:14.480 --> 0:10:16.360 Leo the City. He sniffed a whole lot of cook 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:18.920 One of the one of the things that's so mysterious 0:10:19.720 --> 0:10:24.280 is I might have lost this argument. I never realized 0:10:24.320 --> 0:10:28.760 that you guys wasn't on depth Jam. I always always, 0:10:28.840 --> 0:10:31.400 I did everybody still we was on deaf Jam. 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:34.600 So we were deaf Jam water coats. 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:41.199 I'm from christ when that happened, What what what what happened? 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:48.040 I think doctor dre Our doctor was in the room 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:51.200 when Russell went to go start def Jam and it 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:56.360 was basically, okay, mister Simmons, you know you're Curtius managing, 0:10:56.440 --> 0:11:01.880 and why should we give you a record deal? Well 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:03.640 they did was just show a picture of the three 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:07.240 baddest things in existence at the time we were. We 0:11:07.400 --> 0:11:11.040 were never able to get on different team because world understand, 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:13.439 we were signed the Profile Record. 0:11:14.800 --> 0:11:18.320 Before the album. This is Profile Records exactly. 0:11:19.200 --> 0:11:23.439 So he was always on Profile Records and so so. 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:29.280 It was Rush Management, which officially became Rush Management became 0:11:29.360 --> 0:11:35.120 Violator all years years okay, the little Violator became a 0:11:35.280 --> 0:11:39.600 part of Rush manage to get that whole thing. Random 0:11:39.679 --> 0:11:43.199 c was always on Profile records, came out on Profile 0:11:43.320 --> 0:11:47.200 records with its light than circum Seeds put the record out. 0:11:47.840 --> 0:11:52.079 It worked, sucam Seeds. Now a lot of people think 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:52.679 it was. 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:54.520 Well. 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:59.320 Rock Box was the first hip hop video on MTV TV. Yes, 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:02.800 and and it wasn't walked this way. It's a tongue twister, 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:06.960 walked this way. The first rock rap record isn't walked 0:12:06.960 --> 0:12:09.760 this way. The first rock rap record is rock Box, 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:12.720 which is a thing to put hip hop on MTV. 0:12:12.880 --> 0:12:16.000 But y'all record box, Yeah, okay, okay. What I'm trying 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:24.240 to say is our our our abilities started with Sucker 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:27.120 and ceased because if you remember hip hop, everything was 0:12:27.240 --> 0:12:31.840 very musical in the beginning of everybody, which is sample 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:35.360 the hot record on the radio. Oh let's do heartbeat, 0:12:35.840 --> 0:12:38.640 the R and B record, this and that. When when 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:42.240 they c came along, we didn't use good Times, we 0:12:42.240 --> 0:12:45.559 didn't use ring my bell. We fucking came with boom 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:50.439 tet tette in just the beat. And I remember that 0:12:50.520 --> 0:12:57.640 year the record dropped, hating my own record because everywhere 0:12:57.679 --> 0:13:05.160 I went, which season challenge because what you was doing 0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:06.320 is what I was. 0:13:06.280 --> 0:13:11.560 Doing for The Treacherous Three. Those were the records that. 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:12.040 I want to hear. 0:13:12.040 --> 0:13:14.559 I don't want to even watch it, you know what 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:15.040 I'm saying. 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:19.200 So when my record started playing more than bands and flashing, 0:13:19.320 --> 0:13:22.280 it hurt. It bugged me up. Run knew what was 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:24.120 going on because what people don't know. Run was a 0:13:24.160 --> 0:13:28.480 professional rapper at fifteen. He was the son of Curtis Blow. 0:13:29.160 --> 0:13:35.000 Run saw the business that's now in his living room. 0:13:35.600 --> 0:13:38.360 As a kid. He would come downstairs and curt As 0:13:38.360 --> 0:13:40.959 sleep on the chair. Jimmy Spice is over the hood. 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:45.160 He needs over their Grandmaster Flash. Everybody's because Russ, who 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:48.840 was Rus Russ Rushed Productions was a party. He was 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:51.320 a party, put on it right, and he would hire 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:55.080 a flashing bad He was so Run saw hip hop 0:13:56.520 --> 0:13:57.960 what the world is seeing now. 0:13:58.200 --> 0:14:02.840 Run saw that in his living room for four rappers 0:14:02.840 --> 0:14:06.160 to light drop Runners there. So Run new to business 0:14:06.240 --> 0:14:09.160 and this and that and run new entertainment. Shoub said me, 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:12.880 I'm just a fucking kid hearing this hip hop. Shiit 0:14:13.559 --> 0:14:16.360 me and Run Running. Me and Run didn't meet until 0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:19.600 eighth grade. We didn't grow up together. Wow, my best 0:14:19.640 --> 0:14:22.800 friend growing up with this guy named Douglas Hayes. That's 0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:25.160 who I ran at and that's how I met Jane. 0:14:25.160 --> 0:14:27.800 That's how I met Hurricane, jam Messa J. You met 0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:30.560 jam Mester J before you met Run. Yes, Okay, continue. 0:14:30.600 --> 0:14:33.960 I met the jam Mass J through DJ Hurricane, who 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:37.240 was EMC Hurricane down with Davy d and had a group. 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:41.520 Called Solo Sounds Wiley Queens. So but the thing growing 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:47.360 up the Run DMC is was how jam Master J. 0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:53.080 Hurricane was dressing in high school. Caine and Jay was 0:14:53.080 --> 0:14:56.360 going to school with the Godfather Heads and the matt 0:14:56.480 --> 0:15:00.320 Necks and Nadidas and the leather black in high school. Right, 0:15:01.720 --> 0:15:03.320 So that's why our style came. 0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:06.320 But what I wanted to say about circumcis when Sucker 0:15:06.360 --> 0:15:09.600 and Seas dropped, it was a game, and a lot 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:11.680 of people and hip hop say, yeah, that's true. 0:15:11.960 --> 0:15:13.920 It was the game change because it was just the beat. 0:15:14.120 --> 0:15:18.560 It was the tape. We didn't want to do records. 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:20.640 We wanted to me and Run had this team. We 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:25.680 make beat jams, we make what's on the Haarlem World tape, 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:28.640 we make what they doing in the te connection and 0:15:28.680 --> 0:15:30.840 the you know I'm saying. So when succer Seas came, 0:15:30.880 --> 0:15:34.440 it was the game changer and then everybody's oh, wow, 0:15:34.480 --> 0:15:35.920 you can do because. 0:15:36.360 --> 0:15:41.040 The greatest hip hop rappers in history. The greatest period 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:44.320 in hip hop is the history before recorded rap. 0:15:44.600 --> 0:15:48.240 Now I can say that because I lived it. I 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:53.320 understand the gams, the park jams. Yeah, just before rappers 0:15:53.360 --> 0:15:57.080 are like before we started making records. That was the 0:15:57.120 --> 0:16:00.280 best period of hip hop, which nobody even cares about now. 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:02.200 I ain't even bring that ship up during the fiftieth 0:16:02.320 --> 0:16:05.600 year celebration hip Hop. I was saying about the fiftieth celebration, 0:16:05.680 --> 0:16:07.760 hipp only celebrated record making motherfuckers. 0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:12.960 Yeah, they didn't. It wasn't. It wasn't the fiftieth It 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:15.200 wasn't they said it was. 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:19.720 It wasn't, And I can say this, It wasn't the 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:23.320 fiftieth anniversary of hip hop. It was the fifty anniversary 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:24.680 of recorded guarded records. 0:16:24.680 --> 0:16:26.680 Go back and look at all the things and crazy. 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:31.200 It wasn't about DJ and MC and break dancing, graffiti 0:16:31.440 --> 0:16:33.240 and the whole like the whole ship. 0:16:33.400 --> 0:16:35.400 So this is what I'm talking about. Said it wasn't 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:37.360 or was it wasn't It was it was only a 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:38.520 boy motherfuckers that make records. 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:41.280 He said year, the celebration of it. 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:43.880 What happened in the Bronx. You know what I'm saying. 0:16:43.880 --> 0:16:46.840 I want to see the fantastic fucking five we talked 0:16:46.840 --> 0:16:47.280 about all. 0:16:49.160 --> 0:16:52.520 I did shut it down. I didn't want to go 0:16:52.640 --> 0:16:53.400 so happy. 0:16:54.840 --> 0:16:58.520 Together. How long was that since y'all performed together? Since 0:16:58.960 --> 0:17:01.600 no we was doing show Okay, I wasn't. 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:06.160 We was RENDMC was only doing festivals because I heard 0:17:06.600 --> 0:17:10.040 you guys wouldn't perform together since jam Master Jay had passed. 0:17:10.520 --> 0:17:13.159 We didn't want to, okay, but some of the checks 0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:15.359 were very nice. 0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:18.080 You know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, So that was it. 0:17:18.160 --> 0:17:19.840 But what I wanted to say about sucking, see, it 0:17:19.840 --> 0:17:24.119 was just about making be gems and we wanted to do. 0:17:24.400 --> 0:17:26.159 When we came in hip hop, we knew we had 0:17:26.160 --> 0:17:31.200 a responsibility for this. Anything that is wholly a sacred 0:17:31.760 --> 0:17:36.320 to a nation or community or of people whould get diluted, 0:17:36.359 --> 0:17:40.159 polluted and destroyed once it's commercialized. And a lot of 0:17:40.200 --> 0:17:42.120 the commercialization of that is very. 0:17:42.080 --> 0:17:45.600 Good, you know, financially in this and for the expansion 0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:50.000 of it. MTV and US being on records aided in 0:17:50.119 --> 0:17:53.560 the expansion of hip hop. But if there was no 0:17:53.760 --> 0:17:56.440 music business. We still had hip hop. So when Ren 0:17:56.480 --> 0:17:59.600 DMC and jmster J showed up, we wasn't thinking, you know, 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:01.679 let's have hit records again. Money and this snana that 0:18:01.760 --> 0:18:03.480 run was doing it a little bit because you see 0:18:03.600 --> 0:18:06.040 you've been like that. But our things was to be 0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:10.040 the best DJs in MC's that people would ever see forever. 0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:14.960 Right Why because the people before us that art form 0:18:15.240 --> 0:18:18.400 the Melly Mels right to see. Everybody only knows Melly 0:18:18.400 --> 0:18:22.680 Mel for the message, but I got tapes of Melly 0:18:22.760 --> 0:18:26.880 Mel and Scorpio when he was mister ness. 0:18:26.880 --> 0:18:28.080 Rhyman like me and running. 0:18:29.040 --> 0:18:32.040 Nobody knows Melly Mel was Melly em Me, Ellie, em 0:18:32.040 --> 0:18:34.639 Me l and Melly Mel. Y'all rock well with echo 0:18:34.760 --> 0:18:38.440 chambers and flash drop and pieces of shiitn't nobody knows 0:18:38.480 --> 0:18:42.680 that I know that this record making ship don't excite me. 0:18:42.760 --> 0:18:45.760 So what you had to triple plattin that shit don't 0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:50.080 mean nothing because you didn't play Harlem World, motherfucker. So 0:18:50.560 --> 0:18:52.520 me and Ron came from that. We said we're gonna 0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:56.000 do and that ate it in our success. Everything we did. 0:18:55.920 --> 0:18:57.440 Was we were imagining. 0:18:57.600 --> 0:19:00.959 It was a cassette recording of us live, so we 0:19:01.000 --> 0:19:03.440 wanted to make rhyme routines. So when we did Suck 0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:08.040 and Seas, it gave permission everybody. Oh shit, we. 0:19:08.000 --> 0:19:10.960 Don't got the first rappers or the greatest rappers ever, 0:19:11.200 --> 0:19:13.159 But what was that Floyd? They had no rappers to 0:19:13.200 --> 0:19:16.160 look up to. So when the first rappers got into 0:19:16.200 --> 0:19:18.359 the music, you gotta understand what happened to our culture. 0:19:18.760 --> 0:19:22.560 We were a culture that is eternal, that never changes, 0:19:22.840 --> 0:19:26.919 That innovation gets better and better as we grow. Not 0:19:27.040 --> 0:19:29.600 that ship when you're thirty five and forty you can't rap. 0:19:29.680 --> 0:19:33.600 No is anybody going to go to Stevie Wonder and say, Stevie, 0:19:34.000 --> 0:19:37.440 you're fifty now you can't sit. Is anybody going to 0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:41.080 go to Patty Labella said, excuse me, Patty, you're fifty, 0:19:41.119 --> 0:19:44.480 you can't. Or Mick Jagger neither. The roman Stones won't 0:19:44.520 --> 0:19:50.920 have a fucking tour when they died and going. So 0:19:51.000 --> 0:19:55.120 we knew that before that, the ship that was going 0:19:55.160 --> 0:19:58.160 on that we were doing before rappers, the Light, that's 0:19:58.240 --> 0:20:02.480 the fucking its fucking turn. They could never take that 0:20:02.560 --> 0:20:05.080 ship from us. So we said we're gonna do that 0:20:05.080 --> 0:20:07.520 ship on records. And that's the thing that made the 0:20:08.080 --> 0:20:13.120 Jay never used the dat machine. They never did. It 0:20:13.160 --> 0:20:16.119 was when we played live Aid Motherfuckers that she was 0:20:16.280 --> 0:20:19.600 vinyl on the turntables enough rhyming. 0:20:22.680 --> 0:20:28.280 From sucking c to fucking jam ass to Jay. 0:20:28.359 --> 0:20:32.240 When we did hard Times, it's like that was Russell 0:20:32.320 --> 0:20:32.800 in the business. 0:20:32.800 --> 0:20:35.400 You got to make a commercial record. It's like so 0:20:35.440 --> 0:20:38.080 what we did was like that. We took because if 0:20:38.080 --> 0:20:40.520 you remember, the message came out first. So the message 0:20:40.560 --> 0:20:43.320 was the message. It's like a Jung Goose times broken 0:20:43.400 --> 0:20:44.160 last everywhere. 0:20:44.400 --> 0:20:46.280 But after that hip hop. 0:20:46.200 --> 0:20:49.439 Was able to say we can take you all to 0:20:49.480 --> 0:20:51.880 where you'll need to go. So bam and I'm so 0:20:51.880 --> 0:20:55.640 sounid force and so sound for Africa band, butter so 0:20:55.640 --> 0:20:58.639 solid force. They may't plant it rock. So when we 0:20:58.680 --> 0:21:00.960 made it like that, we said, you know what, we're 0:21:00.960 --> 0:21:03.879 tired of shit being separate. Let's put the message and 0:21:04.040 --> 0:21:06.320 the vision of Planet Rock. We know a place where 0:21:06.320 --> 0:21:08.919 everybody's eating and as safe. The students' like that. So 0:21:08.920 --> 0:21:10.280 when we did that with it, say if you. 0:21:10.320 --> 0:21:13.000 Listen to Planet Rock, if we were trying to make 0:21:13.480 --> 0:21:15.080 I mean, if you listen, it's like that we're trying 0:21:15.080 --> 0:21:18.879 to make Planet of Rocks and and but we wasn't 0:21:18.880 --> 0:21:23.560 good at it. 0:21:23.880 --> 0:21:26.200 We were just trying to make raw beats the way 0:21:26.240 --> 0:21:27.439 it was done in the streets. 0:21:27.520 --> 0:21:29.040 If you listen, you know it was the key to 0:21:29.080 --> 0:21:32.520 run to see success. It was It's like comic book 0:21:32.560 --> 0:21:34.560 Easter X. It was right up on your nose. When 0:21:34.600 --> 0:21:37.280 we made Adidas, we took the beat from the street 0:21:37.320 --> 0:21:40.240 and put it on TV as it is and it's 0:21:40.359 --> 0:21:41.320 formed no. 0:21:41.400 --> 0:21:44.800 Explanations to the ship. Take the beat like on DJ. 0:21:45.800 --> 0:21:49.040 But by us doing that, what the fuck were you? 0:21:49.080 --> 0:21:52.000 Nobody had never seen what we did in the hip 0:21:52.040 --> 0:21:55.200 hop be The people before us that created it didn't 0:21:55.240 --> 0:21:55.600 do it. 0:21:56.680 --> 0:21:58.760 You know what I'm saying. Meland Kas and all of 0:21:58.800 --> 0:22:01.800 them was mad at us when we first came out. Wait, 0:22:03.000 --> 0:22:05.280 what do you mean? We were fucking who the fuck 0:22:05.400 --> 0:22:07.600 is that they had on spikes? The fuck it was 0:22:07.680 --> 0:22:11.080 these motherfuckers from Queens with this badass attitude and they 0:22:11.080 --> 0:22:13.000 had on spikes. But you understand, that's what I wanted 0:22:13.040 --> 0:22:16.320 to say to you, Nori. The first MC, the first 0:22:16.440 --> 0:22:18.280 hip hoppers in the game, had no hip hoppers to 0:22:18.320 --> 0:22:21.119 look up to. But who were their idols in show business? 0:22:22.000 --> 0:22:24.640 Rolling Stones, Rick James and Bulman. 0:22:24.440 --> 0:22:28.920 Phone conte so because they coming into the music business 0:22:29.520 --> 0:22:31.600 and a lot of people do this in all forms 0:22:31.600 --> 0:22:34.359 of art and all forms of creativity. Now I'm in 0:22:34.400 --> 0:22:38.480 this Hollywood bullshit, so I got to change who I am. 0:22:38.520 --> 0:22:40.920 But they rightfully so, because what did I say when 0:22:40.920 --> 0:22:42.919 I first walked in there? This is like soul drainer, 0:22:44.000 --> 0:22:46.600 because this is what you're y'all are my Mike Douglass show. 0:22:46.680 --> 0:22:53.240 I don't think you're that young, So that's what you 0:22:53.280 --> 0:22:54.040 know what I'm saying that. 0:22:54.119 --> 0:22:56.520 So when the first hip hoppers got in a hip 0:22:56.560 --> 0:22:59.280 hop there was no fucking cool motherfucker because they were 0:22:59.320 --> 0:23:01.800 the cool motherfuck but because it was show business or 0:23:01.880 --> 0:23:03.239 I need to dress like bamin them. 0:23:03.359 --> 0:23:04.400 I mean, I need to dress like. 0:23:05.760 --> 0:23:10.000 You came doing this ship that they created. Russell being 0:23:10.160 --> 0:23:13.760 the show biz guy, entrepreneur, you know what I'm saying, 0:23:13.800 --> 0:23:17.320 He's hitting me and run every minute. Y'all need stage clothes, 0:23:17.400 --> 0:23:20.080 y'all needed to y'all need to get me and rama say, yeah, 0:23:20.119 --> 0:23:21.440 we do, Russell, but we ain't war. 0:23:22.320 --> 0:23:24.120 But is it true that he told y'all to dress 0:23:24.160 --> 0:23:27.280 like the drug dealers from around the way. No, he didn't. 0:23:27.840 --> 0:23:31.200 He wanted us to. He wanted us to. I will 0:23:31.240 --> 0:23:34.639 look came from this. There's picture. There's a famous picture 0:23:34.680 --> 0:23:36.840 of me and Runner to Fever with check and jackets 0:23:36.880 --> 0:23:39.359 on no ants. Y'all might have seen his Me and 0:23:39.440 --> 0:23:53.320 run no Jay running now Russell at the fucking Fever. 0:23:53.800 --> 0:23:55.280 So what we I used to do? I used to 0:23:55.320 --> 0:23:58.200 go on my farmer closet. Okay, take this suit jacket. 0:23:58.240 --> 0:24:00.399 I had no fucking money and it so what ha 0:24:00.560 --> 0:24:02.840 happened once when we put Ja down the the DJ 0:24:03.640 --> 0:24:05.760 Jay's not in that picture because our first show at 0:24:05.760 --> 0:24:09.560 the Fever, our first show at the Fever, Jim Message 0:24:09.600 --> 0:24:12.840 Jay missed it because he went down to Jamaica Avenue 0:24:13.520 --> 0:24:17.800 the shop for year Rebel Knock Central E. 0:24:18.000 --> 0:24:21.280 I M so you know about this thing called sound check. 0:24:21.880 --> 0:24:24.280 So we played a Fever damn A six thirty. We 0:24:24.320 --> 0:24:26.720 had to leave Ja, so Jacob cried all ninety six. 0:24:27.200 --> 0:24:31.360 So the second time we played the Fever, Jay wasn't 0:24:31.359 --> 0:24:32.960 going to be late. But when we pull up to 0:24:33.000 --> 0:24:35.840 pick up Jake, like in the beginning, I was wearing 0:24:35.880 --> 0:24:38.439 Pullmans at show at in the beginning, blue poom with 0:24:38.480 --> 0:24:41.480 blue sweave pool with the white striped black flat lazers, 0:24:41.480 --> 0:24:42.640 a black yeah, flat. 0:24:42.520 --> 0:24:45.000 Lazers, Okay, yeah, yeah, okay, okay. 0:24:46.840 --> 0:24:50.840 Blue soup jacket and Kangles I was Kangle run was 0:24:50.960 --> 0:24:52.880 just his curly hair, side burned fly. 0:24:53.840 --> 0:24:56.600 You know what I'm saying. Sexy motherfucker. So this show, 0:24:56.600 --> 0:24:58.080 we pull up to Jay's. 0:24:57.720 --> 0:25:01.119 House on two thirty Hollards and Jay we beat him 0:25:01.160 --> 0:25:04.280 Horn for J and Larry Smith, the greatest hip hop 0:25:04.320 --> 0:25:08.320 producer ever that nobody knows about. Larry Smith, who held 0:25:08.320 --> 0:25:12.080 down four decades, I mean four years of hip hop 0:25:12.080 --> 0:25:15.280 by hisself. He produced the whole Rundium See album by herself, 0:25:15.520 --> 0:25:18.000 He produced the King of Rock album by himself, and 0:25:18.040 --> 0:25:21.239 he produced who Denie's groundbreaking the album French Freets Come 0:25:21.240 --> 0:25:24.240 Out the Night five by himself. So Larry Smith needs 0:25:24.280 --> 0:25:28.480 a movie, and he needs a documentary, and he fucking 0:25:28.520 --> 0:25:31.240 needs a fucking Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Award. 0:25:32.560 --> 0:25:37.719 Talk to d talk to Premier, talk to Doctor Dre, 0:25:37.960 --> 0:25:41.720 talk to Pete Rock, Talk to these DJ's Larry Smith. 0:25:42.600 --> 0:25:45.760 Our success was on Larry Smith. So lonso show, we 0:25:45.800 --> 0:25:48.639 pull up to Jay's house. He comes out the front 0:25:48.680 --> 0:25:49.600 door of his crib. 0:25:49.880 --> 0:25:52.760 He got the Godfather had on right, He got the 0:25:52.920 --> 0:25:56.480 black with the white stripe Adida jacking on. 0:25:56.800 --> 0:25:59.520 He got the black Lee's on. He got the brand 0:25:59.640 --> 0:26:03.280 new white Superstars with the black stripe on the side 0:26:03.560 --> 0:26:06.800 and the tongues is sticking up like tombstone. And he 0:26:06.880 --> 0:26:11.159 got the four speaker JVC box. As soon as he 0:26:11.240 --> 0:26:14.439 stepped on his stoop before Russell said that issue, Me 0:26:14.480 --> 0:26:18.119 and Room was like, that's our looks. So Jay was 0:26:18.160 --> 0:26:20.399 not only the sound, it was the. 0:26:20.280 --> 0:26:24.880 Fucking Me and Run was all over the place, Wow, 0:26:25.200 --> 0:26:27.480 all over the place. And you said your first was 0:26:27.520 --> 0:26:31.200 a seal sucker checker all tell all type of ship. 0:26:31.560 --> 0:26:33.920 But I was a cool motherfucker though, because I knew 0:26:34.080 --> 0:26:40.320 BVD nylons bb that motherfucker. I just a lot though 0:26:41.720 --> 0:26:44.320 that day were the worst for that. BBD have my 0:26:44.440 --> 0:26:46.080 red BBD all of that ship. 0:26:46.119 --> 0:26:48.000 Boy, Me and Run was all over the place until 0:26:48.080 --> 0:26:50.359 Jay came along and brought us together. 0:26:50.640 --> 0:26:53.360 J brought it all together. Now was was the gazelles. 0:26:53.400 --> 0:26:56.719 A part of that was this is funny. 0:26:56.920 --> 0:26:59.520 I love this because you said you never knew he 0:26:59.600 --> 0:27:03.680 wasn't on death Gennad something else I never wore as else. 0:27:05.720 --> 0:27:11.760 The glasses I wore were alter goliaths. They had the 0:27:11.880 --> 0:27:14.120 shape of the gazelles, but they never I never wore 0:27:14.160 --> 0:27:16.080 as else. Go back and look at all my pictures 0:27:16.520 --> 0:27:19.119 and before the offer and Leo had something to do 0:27:19.160 --> 0:27:22.200 with the altar garlias, before the alter calias. They were 0:27:22.280 --> 0:27:25.520 just my basic Cohen lenses that I was wearing the 0:27:25.560 --> 0:27:29.440 school wall, and Run was actually the guy that told 0:27:29.440 --> 0:27:33.040 me to wear the glasses because we went to I 0:27:33.080 --> 0:27:35.600 went to Catholic school my whole life, so I'm funny. 0:27:35.640 --> 0:27:38.040 I was always in the smart class. Rum was always 0:27:38.080 --> 0:27:39.639 in the other class because there was it was like 0:27:39.720 --> 0:27:42.080 one one one two two one two two. It's only 0:27:42.119 --> 0:27:44.920 two class and two grades for these class so Rum 0:27:45.000 --> 0:27:46.040 was always another class. 0:27:46.080 --> 0:27:46.840 I didn't know Run. 0:27:47.440 --> 0:27:49.879 The only reason Running I knew Running knew me is 0:27:49.920 --> 0:27:51.680 that when they do the rogue call in the morning 0:27:51.720 --> 0:27:53.400 and they founded the students things. 0:27:53.680 --> 0:27:55.520 You know what I said, Deborah Hamilton, So the whole 0:27:55.520 --> 0:27:58.160 school looks whole ship. That's never that's how you identify. 0:27:58.280 --> 0:28:01.320 So I'm in one day Joseph Simon, everybody, Oh that 0:28:01.480 --> 0:28:05.840 Joey the curly motherfucker, and then John mcdanels, Oh the 0:28:05.840 --> 0:28:08.919 big head motherfucker. Classes that read comic books and know 0:28:08.960 --> 0:28:11.800 how to jarge. So what had happened in eighth grade? 0:28:12.720 --> 0:28:14.639 This is how I mean and run at in eighth 0:28:14.680 --> 0:28:17.879 grade and we went to Saint Pascal Baylon Elementary School. 0:28:18.080 --> 0:28:20.879 It was the last Catholic school in the hood of Hollis. 0:28:20.920 --> 0:28:23.760 Wow. The nuns in the priests said, we can't give 0:28:23.880 --> 0:28:25.760 up on the black kids. We're gonna stay here for him. 0:28:26.000 --> 0:28:28.840 And they trooped that. We had a cool fucking basketball 0:28:28.840 --> 0:28:32.359 coach named Father Rudlaw who fucking left the priesthood because 0:28:32.359 --> 0:28:34.000 he found a black woman in the hood. 0:28:34.119 --> 0:28:35.520 Okay, so shout out the father. 0:28:36.840 --> 0:28:39.400 You know what I say. He was like, I ain't 0:28:39.440 --> 0:28:41.720 trying none of this pope shit and stuff like that. 0:28:42.840 --> 0:28:44.280 Comrades abusing the kids. 0:28:45.440 --> 0:28:49.360 I'm gonna go out and give me some. So we 0:28:49.440 --> 0:28:51.440 had one rim in the bat in the school yard. 0:28:51.680 --> 0:28:54.440 And for the Catholic school kids, you couldn't go nowhere 0:28:54.560 --> 0:28:57.240 unless you went home and put on your play Clothes's 0:28:57.280 --> 0:29:01.080 in your uniform, yo, take your money, Smack you up 0:29:01.120 --> 0:29:01.800 sides your head. 0:29:02.120 --> 0:29:05.080 Take your kids. Are fucking mean. They would take other 0:29:05.200 --> 0:29:07.840 kid's shoes just to fucking take them and all that. 0:29:08.360 --> 0:29:13.920 So in eighth grade, David Mideachier, David mcgeecher comes to 0:29:13.960 --> 0:29:20.200 Saint Pascos and he's like six three and he dunks. 0:29:19.840 --> 0:29:23.280 On the rim and breaks it. So all the Catholic 0:29:23.320 --> 0:29:27.840 school we cried, hold on. 0:29:27.880 --> 0:29:29.560 You know, I got the best parents in the world, 0:29:29.680 --> 0:29:32.800 son of byfriend, brother of al Banna's. My mother runs 0:29:32.800 --> 0:29:36.480 my pal. It's McDaniel's, not McDonald's. These rhyms are darrels. 0:29:36.520 --> 0:29:39.400 Those Burghers are Ronald's. I ran down my family tree, 0:29:39.520 --> 0:29:41.280 my mother and father, my brother and me. I had 0:29:41.320 --> 0:29:43.480 the best parents in the world. My father put a 0:29:43.560 --> 0:29:44.520 rim in the backyard. 0:29:44.960 --> 0:29:48.880 So now don't cry, kids, The McDaniel's family got your back. 0:29:48.960 --> 0:29:50.920 Now all the kids after school could come to my house, 0:29:50.960 --> 0:29:53.160 which is like a five minute walter from school. Wow. 0:29:53.200 --> 0:29:56.160 So every every day after school it's about thirty kids 0:29:56.240 --> 0:29:59.400 from school playing ball. One particular day is just Joseph 0:29:59.400 --> 0:30:03.120 Simon home with his basketball. Comes over. I'm like, yo, 0:30:03.160 --> 0:30:05.920 we're Doug with Craig. Tell God to go to the dinners. 0:30:06.360 --> 0:30:08.360 Craig is on punishment. Okay, it's just me and you. 0:30:08.680 --> 0:30:11.560 So we play ball, right, one played one on one. 0:30:11.600 --> 0:30:13.840 I need to know who won this run? He was 0:30:14.040 --> 0:30:16.840 he was running, was running table the balls. I wasn't glad. 0:30:16.840 --> 0:30:20.080 I just played like you know, I just well, I'm 0:30:20.080 --> 0:30:20.840 trying to be cool. 0:30:20.920 --> 0:30:22.400 I'm a common real nerve. 0:30:22.480 --> 0:30:25.040 I'm trying to you know what I'm saying. 0:30:26.000 --> 0:30:28.239 I'm only playing ball for the same reason that I 0:30:28.280 --> 0:30:31.840 started fucking smoking weed and became an alcoholic. Now I 0:30:31.840 --> 0:30:36.200 didn't like I said no, So we played ball and 0:30:36.400 --> 0:30:39.160 we would get out of school too. Ten. 0:30:41.640 --> 0:30:43.960 My mother and father they get home from work at 0:30:44.040 --> 0:30:46.720 four pm. So when you was little, what was the 0:30:46.800 --> 0:30:48.200 rule when your parents wasn't home? 0:30:48.520 --> 0:30:50.960 No company? Yeah, no company, that's right kind now company. 0:30:51.400 --> 0:30:55.440 So what I usually do is when we finished playing ball, 0:30:55.560 --> 0:30:57.760 I go and get the juggle water. And you remember, Dixie, 0:30:59.280 --> 0:31:01.000 are they selling me cups? 0:31:01.240 --> 0:31:01.920 Yeah? 0:31:02.080 --> 0:31:05.400 You sure that not. I'm gonna be Daryl makes cups, 0:31:06.560 --> 0:31:09.720 bring back fucking cups. Don't wear disposable cups. Why is 0:31:09.720 --> 0:31:12.880 this Dixie stilling? Is this? It's how did the cookies 0:31:12.920 --> 0:31:15.240 in comic books. I'm just say she MOTHERFUCKERSNA say do 0:31:15.280 --> 0:31:19.240 that ship And I said, so run is the only 0:31:19.320 --> 0:31:19.640 kid this. 0:31:19.760 --> 0:31:21.600 So instead of bringing the water to him, I say, 0:31:21.640 --> 0:31:23.600 come in the house. So he comes in the house. 0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:27.040 He sees my brother's turntables and he goes, yo, do 0:31:27.120 --> 0:31:27.560 you do that? 0:31:27.680 --> 0:31:30.640 And I got to know because that was my hip 0:31:30.680 --> 0:31:32.800 hop to me was my little secret thing. But then 0:31:32.840 --> 0:31:35.040 he goes, yo, my brother is Russell Simmons this and 0:31:35.080 --> 0:31:37.240 they starts laying out to four women. Russell Simmons was 0:31:37.280 --> 0:31:40.120 known at this time huge. Okay, go ahead, continue, huge 0:31:40.280 --> 0:31:40.800 rush party. 0:31:40.800 --> 0:31:42.680 He was like, do you own the telephone poles? You 0:31:42.680 --> 0:31:45.000 ever see the flyers and the posters of the Rush party? 0:31:45.280 --> 0:31:47.920 So Russell was huge. Russell was known for arross was 0:31:47.960 --> 0:31:48.520 getting money. 0:31:48.680 --> 0:31:50.400 You know. Back then. He was like, I'm the son 0:31:50.440 --> 0:31:51.080 of Curtis Blow. 0:31:51.360 --> 0:31:53.680 So what we would do is before my mother and 0:31:53.720 --> 0:31:55.760 father come up, we played one game of basketball and 0:31:55.840 --> 0:31:56.880 going to basement and DJ. 0:31:57.240 --> 0:31:59.960 So that's how he knew that I had skilled. 0:32:00.760 --> 0:32:03.200 So when he was going to make a record as 0:32:03.200 --> 0:32:06.000 a solo artist because he was the son of Curtis Blow, 0:32:06.280 --> 0:32:09.800 Curtis Blower put out the Brakes, the first Christmas record 0:32:09.960 --> 0:32:12.320 DoD y'all know before Christmas in Hollis. 0:32:12.320 --> 0:32:16.400 It was a that was Curtis Christmas wrapping. Yeah yeah, yeah. 0:32:17.240 --> 0:32:19.640 So run was always in Russel. Let me make a record, 0:32:19.680 --> 0:32:21.240 Let me make a record, Let me make a record, 0:32:21.280 --> 0:32:24.560 Let me make a record. Russell was like, no, no, no, no, no, 0:32:24.560 --> 0:32:26.960 no no no, you're too young. You're too young, too young. 0:32:27.200 --> 0:32:31.000 So Joe was persistent, and Russell says this to Joe. Okay, Joey, 0:32:31.600 --> 0:32:34.200 that's what Russell want to get last. Okay, Joey, you 0:32:34.320 --> 0:32:37.280 show me a high school diploma. I'll let you go 0:32:37.320 --> 0:32:39.200 in the studio and make a record. So Run was like, okay, 0:32:39.200 --> 0:32:41.320 I don't remember that. He was in what tenth grade, 0:32:41.320 --> 0:32:44.120 tenth grade, eleventh grade, twelfth grade. Here you go, Russell. 0:32:44.400 --> 0:32:47.120 So Run was going in the studio to make a record. 0:32:47.560 --> 0:32:51.040 He remembered the kid with the big hair and the 0:32:51.080 --> 0:32:54.920 glasses in the comic book dmc Darryl McDaniel's got some rhymes. 0:32:55.320 --> 0:32:57.600 So he calls me up, Chris, me and a group. 0:32:58.320 --> 0:33:01.240 That's what got me sitting here today. Well, like I 0:33:01.280 --> 0:33:03.840 wanted to do none of the show. I wrote rhymes 0:33:03.840 --> 0:33:05.600 for me, Nourie, not for you. They hate him. 0:33:05.600 --> 0:33:09.000 Shit, that's crazy, and I didn't want nobody that shit 0:33:09.080 --> 0:33:09.840 was like my diary. 0:33:10.040 --> 0:33:11.040 So you're telling me. 0:33:12.520 --> 0:33:14.080 This is damn near happened by accident. 0:33:14.440 --> 0:33:16.960 Run had a chance to go solo. He had a 0:33:17.040 --> 0:33:20.720 chance to do whatever he had a record court. He 0:33:20.840 --> 0:33:23.000 came over my house. He would he would come to 0:33:23.040 --> 0:33:24.880 my house and play me tape show last night. I 0:33:24.920 --> 0:33:27.040 was with Juelo Nation last night, I was with the 0:33:27.080 --> 0:33:29.600 Crash Crew. Shout out to the Crash Crew, one of 0:33:29.600 --> 0:33:32.320 the greatest groups in hip hop that they always forget about. 0:33:32.600 --> 0:33:35.080 He would show me these tapes of stuff. So he's 0:33:35.240 --> 0:33:39.480 I'm a fan and he's doing it. So I'm looking 0:33:39.520 --> 0:33:42.240 at him in awe and respect because he's doing He 0:33:42.360 --> 0:33:42.640 was with. 0:33:42.720 --> 0:33:43.760 Flash last night. 0:33:44.160 --> 0:33:44.880 You know what I'm saying. 0:33:45.680 --> 0:33:47.640 When he was going to make his record, he had 0:33:47.680 --> 0:33:51.760 a record called street Kid, I'm Just a street Kid. 0:33:52.520 --> 0:33:55.360 Street Kid, I'm just the street. 0:33:55.120 --> 0:33:59.120 Member rap used to be trying to make it and 0:33:59.200 --> 0:34:00.720 the music would play and sit like that, and he 0:34:00.760 --> 0:34:02.440 had his old record run out of his old raps, 0:34:02.440 --> 0:34:04.840 and I was like, O Joe and whatever whatever. 0:34:05.200 --> 0:34:09.360 But then he said, nah, fuck that DMC. I was 0:34:09.360 --> 0:34:12.040 int DMC. I was easy, D easy easy. 0:34:12.360 --> 0:34:15.239 They used to call me EASD because a rapt on 0:34:15.280 --> 0:34:18.319 a mic, so easily now they called me. I didn't 0:34:18.360 --> 0:34:20.799 become DMC. Tell Room put me in the group because 0:34:20.800 --> 0:34:22.799 then I had to go up another level. But that's 0:34:22.800 --> 0:34:24.680 a whole on story. So Run was going to be 0:34:24.719 --> 0:34:27.440 a solo artist, had a recon and everything was his 0:34:27.520 --> 0:34:30.400 name Run. Yeah, it was DJ Run, DJ DJ Run. 0:34:30.680 --> 0:34:33.400 But then when he was about to go in to 0:34:34.120 --> 0:34:38.080 get the deal, he said, nah, putting my man now. 0:34:38.480 --> 0:34:40.080 And he called me up and he was like you 0:34:40.480 --> 0:34:43.560 and he told me this in eighth grade, d whenever 0:34:43.640 --> 0:34:45.920 Russell lets me make a record, I'm putting you in 0:34:45.960 --> 0:34:48.759 my group now. I remember that when he said that 0:34:48.800 --> 0:34:51.200 shit to me, it was like a foreign language. The 0:34:51.239 --> 0:34:55.759 fuck you. I don't do this, you mold y'all motherfuckers 0:34:55.840 --> 0:34:56.920 do this. And he said watch. 0:34:57.320 --> 0:34:59.680 So this was eighth grade, ninth grade, tenth grade, eleventh grade, 0:34:59.680 --> 0:35:03.120 twelve grade. We went to totally different schools. Run and 0:35:03.280 --> 0:35:08.279 Jay went to Andrew Jackson including Aja Ball and like that. 0:35:08.320 --> 0:35:10.600 I went to a school called Right High. 0:35:10.440 --> 0:35:13.120 School, call what Rice High School one hundred and twenty 0:35:13.160 --> 0:35:17.440 fourth Street and Lenox Avenue was boys Athletic School, Parl 0:35:17.440 --> 0:35:22.759 Memorial Rice High School. So during that time Joe is 0:35:24.640 --> 0:35:30.040 getting his deal together, I'm just in Rice High School. 0:35:30.040 --> 0:35:32.319 But the beautiful thing for me, what happened to me 0:35:32.440 --> 0:35:35.839 is the reason why I'm so passionate about hip hop. 0:35:36.880 --> 0:35:40.759 I understand this. There's a dichotomy with our culture. Now 0:35:41.400 --> 0:35:45.839 there's the music business and then there's the culture. Right, 0:35:46.480 --> 0:35:49.520 I'm one hundred and fifty thousand percent culture that just 0:35:49.560 --> 0:35:51.640 happens to be in the music business. So that's why 0:35:51.640 --> 0:35:53.080 I didn't talk that much in the beginning. 0:35:53.160 --> 0:35:54.919 Let run all the talk. I'm just going to say 0:35:54.920 --> 0:35:56.000 my rom and go to fuck home. 0:35:56.560 --> 0:36:00.200 So what happened to me was this, So Nouri and 0:36:00.280 --> 0:36:03.040 e I get to Rice High School. It's one hundred 0:36:03.040 --> 0:36:06.200 and twenty fourth Street in Harlem, all boys, Catholic high school, 0:36:06.239 --> 0:36:08.320 congregation of Irish Christian brothers. 0:36:08.480 --> 0:36:11.279 But what is so unique about this? Now, I don't 0:36:11.440 --> 0:36:14.160 know what's about to happen to me. This is purpose 0:36:14.200 --> 0:36:16.919 and destiny. I just go to Rice because my best 0:36:16.960 --> 0:36:19.240 friend Doug told me, We're going to Rice. Motherfucker. 0:36:19.239 --> 0:36:21.799 Okay, So I get to Rice. But I get to 0:36:21.920 --> 0:36:24.279 Rice the boys and girls. The boys because of the 0:36:24.280 --> 0:36:26.399 old boys school, they would go to Rice. They from 0:36:26.440 --> 0:36:29.040 the Bronx, They from Harlem, from Manhattan. So when I 0:36:29.080 --> 0:36:31.640 get to Rice in ninth grade, they got all of 0:36:31.680 --> 0:36:39.000 the performances of hip hop before rappers Delight. So Terrorce 0:36:39.280 --> 0:36:42.360 Washington would come at the end of every school week 0:36:42.719 --> 0:36:46.920 with a cassette tape holder, open it up and he 0:36:46.920 --> 0:36:49.239 would sell the tapes like it was drugs, and it 0:36:49.280 --> 0:36:52.000 would be in the school, in the school, in the school. 0:36:52.080 --> 0:36:55.840 And what was beautiful about the congregation of Irish Christian 0:36:55.840 --> 0:36:58.360 Brothers to connect with the black kids. This is a 0:36:58.440 --> 0:37:01.880 lesson for the educational something about they let us do 0:37:02.000 --> 0:37:04.759 our hip hop, They let us do our graffiti, They 0:37:04.880 --> 0:37:08.960 let they they wanted our right on them do all 0:37:09.000 --> 0:37:11.400 that shit. And by letting us doing that, we had 0:37:11.880 --> 0:37:15.400 great students, no trouble or did trouble. Sent kid was 0:37:15.400 --> 0:37:17.640 a straight a student because he got to rhyme and 0:37:17.640 --> 0:37:19.799 beat on the table, he got to do his art. 0:37:20.080 --> 0:37:23.960 But Terrence Washington would have you know Funky four plus 0:37:24.000 --> 0:37:30.880 one nineteen seventy nine, Wow, Curtis Blow nineteen seventy seven, 0:37:31.360 --> 0:37:36.200 when Curtis Blow was Flash MC Grandmaster Flash in the 0:37:36.320 --> 0:37:40.440 Furious Four because Raheem wasn't in the group yet, because 0:37:40.560 --> 0:37:44.640 Raheem was a member of the Funky Four. So I'm 0:37:44.880 --> 0:37:47.440 saving my allowance because i didn't have a job, and 0:37:47.480 --> 0:37:50.359 I'm buying all of these tapes. So from ninth grade 0:37:50.400 --> 0:37:54.600 to twelfth grade, I'm getting the first and course on 0:37:55.400 --> 0:37:59.440 how to be this hip hop shit, not how to 0:37:59.480 --> 0:38:02.480 do it how to beat the ship. So long story 0:38:02.480 --> 0:38:09.800 show again. Twelfth grade. I'm graduating, set out my resume 0:38:10.280 --> 0:38:15.080 to all the schools I get home from to college school. Yeah, 0:38:15.160 --> 0:38:17.439 there's no emails back then. You know what I'm saying. 0:38:17.520 --> 0:38:20.440 It's still using payphones all that shit. There's a letter 0:38:20.960 --> 0:38:24.399 says Saint John's University on it. I opened up the letter. 0:38:24.440 --> 0:38:27.360 We're probably to inform you, mister McDaniels, and I felt 0:38:27.400 --> 0:38:29.000 good that they called me mister. 0:38:30.239 --> 0:38:32.359 Oh just you know what I'm saying, like, oh shit, 0:38:32.360 --> 0:38:34.279 isn't it? But I was also scared because that means 0:38:34.280 --> 0:38:35.839 I gotta grow up right. 0:38:37.000 --> 0:38:38.400 Saint John's is still on Queen's Correct. 0:38:38.520 --> 0:38:43.200 Yeah, still there, Stell there, fucking Lucronoseca and fucking Walter Burry. 0:38:44.600 --> 0:38:47.839 I said, oh shit, I got accepted to Saint John's University. 0:38:48.440 --> 0:38:51.200 I run past my mother and father with the letter 0:38:52.120 --> 0:38:56.200 down into the basement to my turntables, put on Apache, 0:38:56.560 --> 0:38:59.840 and I write my rhyme, I'm dmc not go because 0:38:59.840 --> 0:39:02.960 I wasn't in it. I'm going to Saint John's University 0:39:03.400 --> 0:39:07.080 since kindergarten our quiet and knowledge, and that was just 0:39:09.520 --> 0:39:17.440 then we just so you got the college letter and 0:39:17.480 --> 0:39:22.960 you go downstairs and you premeditate, right Ryn ship get 0:39:24.000 --> 0:39:28.600 that's that's iconic. B get you. 0:39:29.160 --> 0:39:31.760 I go back uptairs. Mom, I got accepted Saint John's University. 0:39:31.760 --> 0:39:34.399 But again in Saint John's University and stuff like that. 0:39:35.000 --> 0:39:39.279 The phone rings, it's Joe run the same day. It's 0:39:39.280 --> 0:39:41.440 not the same day I get in. This is probably 0:39:41.520 --> 0:39:46.080 like the like the first week, because I'm an orient 0:39:46.239 --> 0:39:50.959 orientation college. It's Joe, yo, what's up? Deep? Remember four 0:39:51.080 --> 0:39:54.040 years ago when I said, if Russell lets me make 0:39:54.120 --> 0:39:57.400 correct it, Yeah, grab your ron book, We're going to 0:39:57.440 --> 0:40:00.000 make correct it. We go to Green Street Recording Student. 0:40:00.840 --> 0:40:05.240 It's like that and Suckerham seas Russell goals around the labels. 0:40:05.239 --> 0:40:09.360 Every label tells them, noahccept this one independent called Profile Records. 0:40:09.719 --> 0:40:18.200 Profile Records takes a chance with us. Here I am today. 0:40:18.600 --> 0:40:21.080 And then we made singles. Remember hip hop was your singles. 0:40:21.680 --> 0:40:24.400 So then we made another single called hard Times Jam Message. 0:40:24.560 --> 0:40:26.560 And that's why I brung rustling with the commercial things 0:40:27.719 --> 0:40:31.680 like that. Everybody say I did it. 0:40:31.920 --> 0:40:35.439 Everybody say that. So we made hard Times. Check this out. 0:40:35.480 --> 0:40:36.640 This is how deep this sh it is. 0:40:36.920 --> 0:40:40.040 We made hard Times, which is a Curtis Blow song. 0:40:40.840 --> 0:40:43.600 It's one of the first hip hop remakes. We heard it. 0:40:44.440 --> 0:40:46.799 What was Yeah, it was a cover song. Curtis Ball 0:40:46.840 --> 0:40:49.200 had a song called hard Times on his album where 0:40:49.200 --> 0:40:49.839 he wrapped it. 0:40:50.360 --> 0:40:51.520 We took it and did it. 0:40:51.520 --> 0:40:52.000 It's like this. 0:40:52.160 --> 0:40:54.640 So but at that time when we made us like 0:40:54.680 --> 0:40:57.080 that seas, we didn't have j yet. That's why the 0:40:57.080 --> 0:41:00.200 group's just run DMC. So after we put it the 0:41:00.360 --> 0:41:03.640 circum seas out. The record is getting hot, it's blowing 0:41:03.719 --> 0:41:06.440 up on the radio. Circum Season is killing the street, 0:41:06.520 --> 0:41:08.879 and it's like that. It's becoming a head across the nation. 0:41:09.440 --> 0:41:11.120 But people thought he was an R and B group. 0:41:11.400 --> 0:41:13.160 Oh shit, know what they thought? 0:41:13.200 --> 0:41:16.640 We was kind of like the TIMEX social club type group. 0:41:17.800 --> 0:41:20.840 We go on the shows. We're opening for Marvin Gaye, 0:41:21.160 --> 0:41:24.120 God damn it. We opening for Parliament Funk of delic 0:41:24.880 --> 0:41:27.040 We open him for the ZZ Top. How was the 0:41:27.080 --> 0:41:28.200 reception in the audience? 0:41:28.239 --> 0:41:31.040 How were they? I tell you we had twenty minutes. 0:41:31.800 --> 0:41:34.400 He was opening for the Barcades and Confunction and the 0:41:34.480 --> 0:41:36.520 Gap Band and all that shit. So we had twenty 0:41:36.520 --> 0:41:41.600 minutes on these only and that is because it's like that. 0:41:41.719 --> 0:41:43.879 It's on the radio and it's like that. So they 0:41:43.880 --> 0:41:46.080 thought we was a band. Russell was getting this cause 0:41:46.120 --> 0:41:48.040 and then we sent us we'd show up at sound 0:41:48.160 --> 0:41:50.840 check me Larry Smith running Jay with. 0:41:50.920 --> 0:41:53.960 Two turntables and a record bag. They wouldn't let us 0:41:53.960 --> 0:41:58.600 in BECAUSEFC you know you ain't. 0:41:58.760 --> 0:42:01.399 I mean we're talking yo word knocking three and four 0:42:01.440 --> 0:42:03.960 times where the bouncers go, motherfuckers, if you knock on 0:42:03.960 --> 0:42:08.239 this fucking door again, but we'll run DMC. Don't get 0:42:08.239 --> 0:42:10.560 the fucking promoter this and the promoter came to the door. 0:42:11.360 --> 0:42:13.400 This is him. But the promoters we was getting like 0:42:13.400 --> 0:42:18.920 because they didn't know how y'all look it was a promoter. Yes, 0:42:19.080 --> 0:42:21.880 so you understand what time this was. This is crazy. 0:42:21.960 --> 0:42:23.879 And the promoters would always go, you mean to pay 0:42:24.000 --> 0:42:26.080 I'm paying you twenty five hundred dollars was a lot 0:42:26.120 --> 0:42:28.040 of and that's a lot of money. 0:42:28.600 --> 0:42:31.760 Yeah, The pomos like, we're paying your twenty five hundred 0:42:31.760 --> 0:42:33.480 fucking dollars just to play records. 0:42:33.480 --> 0:42:35.400 We say, yep, So you want to know what the 0:42:35.480 --> 0:42:38.520 reception is. We got twenty minutes. All right, Jay, go 0:42:38.640 --> 0:42:42.080 out to ladies and gentlemen, run DMC. Crowdler's like, okay, 0:42:42.120 --> 0:42:44.080 we're a fucking bad y'all wants up. 0:42:43.960 --> 0:42:46.000 Your My name is Shane Massa jay boom, boom, boom, 0:42:46.040 --> 0:42:48.200 put your hands in the air, boom. Somebody say run 0:42:48.280 --> 0:42:51.880 call me called DMC. I call run out, yo, killing them, 0:42:52.600 --> 0:42:55.840 killing them to the point where sometimes the whole audience 0:42:55.880 --> 0:42:59.480 we have twenty minutes during the Marvin Gaye show, no, no, 0:42:59.600 --> 0:43:03.880 bring them back on the brow? 0:43:04.400 --> 0:43:05.239 Is that hell? 0:43:05.360 --> 0:43:11.560 Yeah? Hol It felt fucking crazy, amazing, and we was 0:43:11.600 --> 0:43:17.240 opening up for fucking Marvin. It's crazy. So that's also 0:43:17.320 --> 0:43:21.600 where our great showmanship came. And we was like, Yo, 0:43:21.680 --> 0:43:24.239 this audience is like loving this ship that we do. 0:43:24.520 --> 0:43:27.320 So we we're not trying to be the best entertainers. 0:43:27.320 --> 0:43:29.160 We're trying to be the best DJs in them sees 0:43:29.200 --> 0:43:30.719 motherfuckers we've ever seen. 0:43:31.360 --> 0:43:38.239 Which set up all of that exhilaration and influence for 0:43:38.320 --> 0:43:41.359 everybody following us. You know what I'm saying, because now 0:43:41.640 --> 0:43:44.320 we are. But when we was doing that, we knew 0:43:44.520 --> 0:43:48.120 damn we representing the fucking culture right, And Jave was like, 0:43:48.200 --> 0:43:50.319 we always got to watch what we say and we 0:43:50.360 --> 0:43:54.440 would never go for any fake shit, no fucking sarand rapping, 0:43:54.800 --> 0:43:58.279 no parody ship. We always got to be live, like 0:43:58.560 --> 0:44:01.839 it was a huge responsibility, Like it was so dope. 0:44:01.880 --> 0:44:04.200 I'm sorry to bounce around. It was so dope to 0:44:04.239 --> 0:44:06.920 see you and Run on stage. And then it was 0:44:06.960 --> 0:44:10.840 even it was even more passionate. It almost made me 0:44:10.880 --> 0:44:14.040 feel like my childhood because he distinguished that this is 0:44:14.080 --> 0:44:18.360 not Reverend Run on stage right he started cursing. I 0:44:18.400 --> 0:44:23.160 was like, oh, you know what I'm saying, Like to 0:44:23.280 --> 0:44:26.600 see that, and it was like my childhood, you know 0:44:26.640 --> 0:44:29.920 what I mean, Like I can understand that, Like I 0:44:30.000 --> 0:44:32.440 just I just was like it felt so right, like 0:44:32.480 --> 0:44:34.239 to see y'all together, you know what I mean, and 0:44:34.360 --> 0:44:38.000 the way you want to see us exactly and headlining 0:44:38.200 --> 0:44:40.640 goddamn Yankee Stadium before. 0:44:40.320 --> 0:44:43.319 We went on Run. It's like, yo, d I guess 0:44:43.320 --> 0:44:46.200 we did something that all these mother focus want us 0:44:46.239 --> 0:44:49.480 to go on. Yes, that's what I think, you know, 0:44:51.640 --> 0:44:54.839 and you know, and it's just the thing that we 0:44:55.000 --> 0:44:59.319 feel that that thing that makes snoop, that thing that 0:44:59.400 --> 0:45:03.279 makes on face is the thing that might not have 0:45:03.360 --> 0:45:05.560 been there if it wasn't for RENDYMC. 0:45:05.920 --> 0:45:07.440 Yeah, that's a fact. They could have. 0:45:07.400 --> 0:45:11.120 Would have died with flashing them, even to the point where, 0:45:11.239 --> 0:45:13.279 like I said, Flash and Melon, all of them was 0:45:13.320 --> 0:45:15.640 mad at us ntil he started seeing our interviews. 0:45:16.360 --> 0:45:18.440 We would talk about them. And when you say that 0:45:18.480 --> 0:45:20.440 it was a mattitude, you say because of the commercial 0:45:20.560 --> 0:45:22.080 appealed that you guys was because. 0:45:21.840 --> 0:45:24.560 It changed the shift that they created. Yeah, we telled 0:45:24.600 --> 0:45:24.919 the ship. 0:45:24.960 --> 0:45:28.520 We came with fucking Adidas angles and gold and you 0:45:28.560 --> 0:45:31.000 could go find there's pictures of meiling them with sheep 0:45:31.040 --> 0:45:34.799 sins and shit. Like even Calz always says, damn man, 0:45:34.840 --> 0:45:38.840 if we had put those routines on records right nineteen 0:45:38.960 --> 0:45:42.680 eighty one and before this year is done, then motherfuckers 0:45:42.680 --> 0:45:50.759 said that's crazy. Catz said, and this is good for 0:45:50.800 --> 0:45:55.600 this time. What he said, anyone can ride around, he said, 0:45:55.640 --> 0:45:57.920 any this is what the rappers should be saying now. 0:45:58.120 --> 0:45:58.479 He said. 0:45:58.480 --> 0:46:01.000 Anyone could write a rap and say yes, sure, but 0:46:01.120 --> 0:46:04.240 a real MC you do not call because you can't 0:46:04.320 --> 0:46:06.400 ride a rhyme at a quarter to two to be 0:46:06.480 --> 0:46:09.440 a real MC before the jam is true. For all 0:46:09.480 --> 0:46:12.239 you MC's that are like that, you gotta take a 0:46:12.320 --> 0:46:14.480 lesson from the good old Cap. You need a voice 0:46:14.520 --> 0:46:17.680 that is clear, a DJ like Chase, a good imagination 0:46:17.800 --> 0:46:20.560 and a strong, steady pace. You gotta have both feet 0:46:20.680 --> 0:46:23.160 on the ground and you can't be a duck. You 0:46:23.239 --> 0:46:27.280 gotta be down. You gotta represent the hood at all times. Plush, 0:46:27.320 --> 0:46:29.520 you gotta have tough and original rocks. 0:46:29.680 --> 0:46:32.000 Put all that together and you know what it brings 0:46:32.040 --> 0:46:34.359 The grand Master and I'm a running thing. 0:46:34.480 --> 0:46:36.799 So JD l hat over Big Beat. 0:46:37.160 --> 0:46:39.880 So we was like, we're gonna do this ship. You 0:46:40.040 --> 0:46:41.040 not fucking doing them. 0:46:42.760 --> 0:46:45.880 You're really influenced by them, that's the thing. But it 0:46:45.920 --> 0:46:46.879 was influenced by them. 0:46:47.000 --> 0:46:49.760 Yes, we Peter Piper, Pick Peppers. 0:46:50.520 --> 0:46:55.680 It was a party nine. Everybody was come on. Imagine 0:46:55.719 --> 0:46:59.440 if that was meiling a national record before the message, 0:46:59.480 --> 0:47:01.360 then it would be able to be doing that record 0:47:01.360 --> 0:47:04.480 and then the message. So that's why when we came along, 0:47:04.560 --> 0:47:07.920 we didn't want to separate what hip hop is. 0:47:08.480 --> 0:47:09.000 You know what I'm saying. 0:47:09.040 --> 0:47:11.800 Even Mo D before he battled out, most people know 0:47:11.880 --> 0:47:14.360 Mod from when he was a regarding artist, you know 0:47:14.400 --> 0:47:17.200 what I'm saying. But before that, Mod and the motherfuckers 0:47:17.320 --> 0:47:21.000 was Beace. You know what I'm saying. It's like the 0:47:21.120 --> 0:47:25.040 old school isn't a time period. The old school is 0:47:25.080 --> 0:47:28.719 a consciousness of how you present yourself, and that could 0:47:28.800 --> 0:47:31.759 be as a DJ could be, as an MC could be, 0:47:31.800 --> 0:47:33.920 as a graffiti artists could be as a break dancer. 0:47:34.120 --> 0:47:36.520 But if you break it down, could be as the music, 0:47:36.800 --> 0:47:39.640 could be, as the language, could be as the art, 0:47:39.920 --> 0:47:41.840 or could be as the fashion of it. 0:47:42.160 --> 0:47:44.360 So we knew we always got to be those elements. 0:47:45.200 --> 0:47:48.279 Let me ask you something because at one point, like 0:47:48.320 --> 0:47:50.040 when you hear like Eric being rock Kim, like the 0:47:50.120 --> 0:47:52.920 DJ came like before the act and the DJ was 0:47:52.960 --> 0:47:56.200 so much important, and then at some point it almost 0:47:56.200 --> 0:47:59.160 seemed like the DJ was obsolete. It seemed like nobody 0:47:59.239 --> 0:48:01.759 kids about the DJ more as opposed to your era, 0:48:01.880 --> 0:48:04.440 where the djk every minute. I was gonna say, we 0:48:04.520 --> 0:48:07.360 made hard times, right, So now we're doing all of 0:48:07.400 --> 0:48:10.680 these shows, barkads, Barkad's. 0:48:10.280 --> 0:48:13.760 Confunction and this and that. So the question is, Okay, 0:48:14.120 --> 0:48:17.960 I know that's Run and that's d MC, or okay, 0:48:18.160 --> 0:48:21.640 that's Run, that's d Where's and where's C? Where's the band? 0:48:22.239 --> 0:48:25.200 So there was confusion. They were C Run, DMC and 0:48:25.239 --> 0:48:26.680 the street people on stage. 0:48:28.320 --> 0:48:30.920 Who's that back there? Why is it? Why is that 0:48:30.960 --> 0:48:31.600 guy back there? 0:48:31.640 --> 0:48:33.640 Oh, y'all need and y'all need to know what this 0:48:33.680 --> 0:48:34.400 ship is doing. 0:48:34.600 --> 0:48:36.040 So I'm the run. 0:48:36.160 --> 0:48:38.880 Put me in the group because all I did was 0:48:38.920 --> 0:48:40.839 eat sleep hip hop. 0:48:41.640 --> 0:48:44.239 All I did eat sleep hip hop tapes. Who's the 0:48:44.239 --> 0:48:46.879 new tape? Who's a new song? He hated me because 0:48:46.880 --> 0:48:49.520 I would listen to the corny shit. But I wasn't 0:48:49.560 --> 0:48:53.319 trying to let anything get right exactly. I was like, 0:48:53.480 --> 0:48:55.279 this ship is on the record, It's gotta be some 0:48:55.480 --> 0:48:57.359 reason why this should be on earth. It might not 0:48:57.400 --> 0:48:59.959 even been the rabbit, might have just been the beat sound. 0:49:00.120 --> 0:49:03.360 So I was like the scientist of the group. So 0:49:03.400 --> 0:49:05.520 everybody was asking me, why is it three people? Don't 0:49:05.520 --> 0:49:08.160 worry j I got you. When we put j first down, 0:49:08.600 --> 0:49:11.279 he was jazzy J. Jazzy J. 0:49:11.520 --> 0:49:13.920 He can't be jazzy j J. I'm I'm I go 0:49:14.040 --> 0:49:16.720 to write song. Jay, you can't be Jazzy J. That's biting, 0:49:18.120 --> 0:49:20.000 you know. And Jay's so you know, Jaseke's looking at me. 0:49:20.080 --> 0:49:24.319 It's weird, motherfucker just biting you. You can't do that. 0:49:25.040 --> 0:49:27.080 Don't worry. J I got you. So I went home 0:49:27.560 --> 0:49:31.440 and I was like, Okay, what we're gonna call it? Jason. 0:49:31.440 --> 0:49:36.640 I was like, okay, if you remember, the jam had 0:49:36.680 --> 0:49:40.719 two meetings back then, So DJ play my favorite jam. 0:49:40.680 --> 0:49:44.480 This right is the record and jar last night. Yes, 0:49:44.640 --> 0:49:45.399 I'm sitting there. 0:49:45.560 --> 0:49:49.279 Oh my god. Jay's the master of it all, and 0:49:49.280 --> 0:49:51.680 it just so happened his name was JA. So when 0:49:51.719 --> 0:49:52.239 I said he's. 0:49:52.120 --> 0:49:54.319 Gonna be he can't be the grand Master. We got 0:49:54.320 --> 0:49:58.319 a bunch of those motherfuckers. Definitely can't be grand with it, 0:49:58.440 --> 0:50:01.239 Like you can fuck with grand Mess, but you've got 0:50:01.320 --> 0:50:04.719 grahams it and you've got grand Mixer. I'm like, I'm 0:50:04.719 --> 0:50:07.000 my whole thing is I gotta even now at fifty 0:50:07.120 --> 0:50:09.479 nine years old, we gotta take caip up one more 0:50:09.600 --> 0:50:11.640 step than nobody hasn't done. So I was like, we're 0:50:11.640 --> 0:50:13.520 gonna name him the jam Master. So I go back 0:50:13.520 --> 0:50:14.240 to Janie College. 0:50:14.280 --> 0:50:14.920 Oh, Jay, I got it. 0:50:15.000 --> 0:50:18.239 Drum roll, your name is gonna be the jam master J. 0:50:18.400 --> 0:50:20.600 You see the way that hit jam master J. 0:50:20.920 --> 0:50:22.920 And then Jay's funny, he said, he says it to 0:50:22.960 --> 0:50:24.840 herself like this is gonna be in a movie, the 0:50:24.920 --> 0:50:30.600 active playing J gotta go master, and should motherfucker went out. 0:50:30.600 --> 0:50:36.680 I got a JMJ JJJ. You know what I'm saying, 0:50:37.520 --> 0:50:39.400 so all of the it's like you said, all of 0:50:39.400 --> 0:50:42.759 the pieces were just falling in place, all right, And 0:50:42.800 --> 0:50:47.040 you and you used to DJ as well. Before run 0:50:47.719 --> 0:50:52.359 came in my basement, I had every Marvel comic book 0:50:52.400 --> 0:50:53.120 in existence. 0:50:54.560 --> 0:50:57.640 Stan Lee shut out to stan Lee. Now I'm gonna 0:50:57.640 --> 0:51:01.000 tell you what. My brother still got his. Stan Lee 0:51:02.200 --> 0:51:06.000 created d m C. Stan Here's crazy. Stanley in the 0:51:06.080 --> 0:51:08.560 cold Crush created m C. But I had a huge 0:51:08.880 --> 0:51:11.959 All I used to do was read collect drawer, read 0:51:12.080 --> 0:51:17.200 collect draw Batman, Flash Green Lantern were all cool. 0:51:17.840 --> 0:51:20.520 But what was bad about d C was like, I 0:51:20.520 --> 0:51:25.160 don't like fake ship. I hate fake ship. So d 0:51:25.320 --> 0:51:27.600 C was cool to superhero but d C had a 0:51:27.640 --> 0:51:30.640 fake Metropolis and a fake god my mother trying to 0:51:30.640 --> 0:51:33.680 be New York. Stan Lee blew my fucking mind. He 0:51:33.719 --> 0:51:37.000 put to superheroes really right, So that ship is real 0:51:37.040 --> 0:51:41.160 to me. Spider Man from Wiside Queen, Yeah, sorry, I 0:51:41.239 --> 0:51:44.800 wasn't shouting out Queen's my whole record creator rep the 0:51:44.920 --> 0:51:48.000 fucking hood. I was shouting at because spider Man comes 0:51:48.000 --> 0:51:51.880 from where I come from. When I found I was, 0:51:52.000 --> 0:51:58.520 oh ship, you know what I'm saying. The other dude, 0:51:59.040 --> 0:52:01.239 he shouting grew. I don't know that shit. I can't 0:52:01.320 --> 0:52:01.799 leave the block. 0:52:02.600 --> 0:52:05.840 But I'm all I did was recollect and your comic books. 0:52:06.200 --> 0:52:08.920 So when hip hop came over the bridge from the Bronx. 0:52:09.480 --> 0:52:13.160 My brother's older than me, fifteen, the kids fifteen, eighteen 0:52:13.200 --> 0:52:15.640 years old, all of a sudden, everybody's getting turntables and 0:52:15.680 --> 0:52:19.000 queens in my neighborhood. And I remember Anthony Wallace was 0:52:19.040 --> 0:52:21.640 the first of my brother's friends to get turntable, but 0:52:21.719 --> 0:52:24.400 he had to make ship set. He had the BSR turntable, 0:52:24.760 --> 0:52:28.280 but the other mitchmatch one from your mother's high five stereo. 0:52:28.320 --> 0:52:28.520 Shit. 0:52:29.000 --> 0:52:29.759 Anthley was dope. 0:52:29.800 --> 0:52:31.960 He would take all the speakers and make his own 0:52:32.000 --> 0:52:34.359 sound system, so he had the creative records. He had 0:52:34.400 --> 0:52:35.960 all that bam shit. You know what I'm saying. I 0:52:36.080 --> 0:52:38.480 was full of bam shit. I ain't know what it was. 0:52:38.719 --> 0:52:43.759 And yet and then Booby Long, my brother's other friend. See, 0:52:43.800 --> 0:52:46.440 Booby had it better than me and my brother because 0:52:46.640 --> 0:52:48.680 you couldn't get no turntables back in the days. 0:52:48.719 --> 0:52:54.279 If you didn't sell reefer, right, guys, all right, cool, 0:52:55.560 --> 0:52:58.920 I'm trying to put people there. You don't sell reefer, 0:53:00.239 --> 0:53:04.200 You're not a stick up kid. You don't rob houses 0:53:04.920 --> 0:53:07.399 and you don't steal cars. So me and my brother 0:53:07.440 --> 0:53:08.440 we Catholic. 0:53:08.080 --> 0:53:12.000 School, you know, suburban queens. Motherfuckers. We ain't got no money. 0:53:13.200 --> 0:53:16.359 But then my brother goes yo, and it was for him. 0:53:16.400 --> 0:53:20.080 He comes to me one day, Yo, Daryl, man, he's weed, 0:53:20.120 --> 0:53:23.279 but it's really him. We gotta get turned right, and 0:53:23.320 --> 0:53:25.880 he's like looking around the fucking attic at my shit, 0:53:26.560 --> 0:53:30.239 and I'm like, oh no, we need oh mother. He's like, Yo, 0:53:30.400 --> 0:53:33.239 come on, man, we gotta get turntables. This hip hop shit. 0:53:33.280 --> 0:53:35.080 You know, everybody's doing whatever whatever. 0:53:35.480 --> 0:53:36.080 So I give in. 0:53:36.200 --> 0:53:39.279 So we do a comic book sale, right, and I 0:53:39.320 --> 0:53:41.960 checked this out. This is seventh grade, before run even 0:53:42.000 --> 0:53:46.080 came playball. We do a comic book sale. The McDaniels 0:53:46.120 --> 0:53:47.959 brothers is doing a comic book sales. 0:53:48.040 --> 0:53:49.759 So the doorbell was ringing all day. 0:53:51.239 --> 0:53:54.399 All we need to do is get one turntable because 0:53:54.400 --> 0:53:56.920 we had a high five system and a forty dollars 0:53:57.360 --> 0:54:00.759 Gemini mix up and down one the lowest one and 0:54:00.840 --> 0:54:03.760 then cross me. So we gotta get that. The doorbells 0:54:03.840 --> 0:54:06.200 ringing all days. Kiss from my neighborhood. Kiss from a 0:54:06.239 --> 0:54:09.200 school doorbell rings. It's Joseph Simmons. The other kid from 0:54:09.200 --> 0:54:11.600 the other class comes in with his friend Harold. He 0:54:11.680 --> 0:54:14.759 buys comic books and he goes home eight I mean 0:54:14.800 --> 0:54:15.960 a year later that happens. 0:54:16.200 --> 0:54:19.400 So we by the turntables. We get to turntables in 0:54:19.440 --> 0:54:23.759 the basement. Everybody's djaming, right, So I hear a Grand 0:54:23.840 --> 0:54:28.960 Master Flash tape of him spinning good times. You know 0:54:29.000 --> 0:54:29.439 what I'm saying. 0:54:29.480 --> 0:54:33.040 When I'm fourteen years old, So I hear this Grandmaster 0:54:33.160 --> 0:54:37.160 flash tape. The thing that caught my eye was Flash and. 0:54:37.239 --> 0:54:41.719 The comic book that's my fucking name is itself flash Tention. 0:54:41.920 --> 0:54:44.320 Now you know what I'm saying. It probably was always 0:54:44.520 --> 0:54:48.400 there because it was blocklast Gordon at right, Flash not Flash. 0:54:49.080 --> 0:54:52.239 Flash and a comic Bookarabos was my connection with that. 0:54:52.840 --> 0:54:55.560 So I hear Grandmaster flashap and he's spending good times, 0:54:55.680 --> 0:54:59.680 good times. Boom boom, but no boom boom boom, boom bron. 0:54:59.719 --> 0:55:03.120 Now you usually prior to the hip hop the DJ's 0:55:03.160 --> 0:55:05.680 is the block parties were the older DJs who would 0:55:06.000 --> 0:55:08.960 just play the records all the way through, play the 0:55:09.000 --> 0:55:10.680 record or the trou So I'm here in this flash 0:55:10.719 --> 0:55:14.040 tape this good Time's break comes, then it comes again. 0:55:15.320 --> 0:55:17.400 Now there's no video of this ship and it's just 0:55:17.520 --> 0:55:20.439 on the box playing and it does it again, good time, 0:55:20.520 --> 0:55:21.560 good time, and he makes it go. 0:55:21.600 --> 0:55:22.399 Good good, good good. 0:55:22.920 --> 0:55:24.799 I'm like, I gotta learn how to do that ship. 0:55:25.239 --> 0:55:27.760 So my brother when we brought the turntables, he scratch 0:55:28.239 --> 0:55:31.200 with my no that came. No, he's being brother who 0:55:31.320 --> 0:55:36.480 used my comic books to get this turntable, tells me 0:55:36.600 --> 0:55:37.680 this is big brother shit. 0:55:38.080 --> 0:55:43.080 Yo, when I'm not home, don't touch my turn what. 0:55:44.120 --> 0:55:46.920 I'm looking at that empty attic and I'm like, what 0:55:47.080 --> 0:55:48.960 the fuck you mean my turn to? I don't say this. 0:55:49.080 --> 0:55:50.960 I'm just thinking this ship. But did I he sold 0:55:51.000 --> 0:55:53.040 your comic books to get Every time he would. 0:55:52.920 --> 0:55:54.960 Leave, I would go on the basement and I'm trying 0:55:54.960 --> 0:55:56.080 to figure out how flat. 0:55:56.000 --> 0:55:58.239 Like Step Brothers. You see the movie Step Brothers. Yeah, 0:55:58.360 --> 0:55:58.759 I would go. 0:55:58.840 --> 0:56:01.000 Down in the basement to a touch of ship. So 0:56:01.080 --> 0:56:03.279 I learned to DJ Good Times. I learned the DJ 0:56:03.560 --> 0:56:07.400 super sperm soup soups. I learned the DJ Paradise. 0:56:07.520 --> 0:56:14.320 It's very nice, paraded, Yeah, I got nice. 0:56:14.840 --> 0:56:17.560 So in my basement, norry. Before I was M. C. 0:56:17.760 --> 0:56:20.799 Eazy D like the m cum ship didn't come yet. 0:56:20.880 --> 0:56:23.840 I didn't hear that ship yet. I was grand Master 0:56:23.840 --> 0:56:27.120 to get high in my basement. Grandmaster, Yeah, because you 0:56:27.160 --> 0:56:33.160 didn't right now, you didn't need to read for alcohol 0:56:33.320 --> 0:56:35.239 to get intoxicated because my music was in. 0:56:37.000 --> 0:56:37.919 You know, so ding. 0:56:38.000 --> 0:56:40.560 When Joe came in my basement, I showed him with Grandmaster, 0:56:40.760 --> 0:56:45.440 Grandmaster get high. I could do me writing rhymes to 0:56:45.520 --> 0:56:49.120 where Joe discovered it when he saw after hanging with 0:56:49.239 --> 0:56:50.440 me came about because of this. 0:56:51.440 --> 0:56:58.640 I had heard spoony g the spoony gs. Okay, spoony 0:56:58.680 --> 0:57:02.040 gm boom boom, you say one for the oh yes, yeah, 0:57:02.160 --> 0:57:04.560 y'are a freak freak y'all. And I was driving down 0:57:04.600 --> 0:57:06.640 the street on the storm at night and then up 0:57:06.840 --> 0:57:08.719 the head. It was a terrible fight. It was a 0:57:08.760 --> 0:57:12.360 big Finally, so I heard spoony Gee's first one with 0:57:12.480 --> 0:57:15.240 the whistle work in the base of woom boom boom. 0:57:15.560 --> 0:57:18.240 So I had heard that, still didn't care about it yet. 0:57:19.080 --> 0:57:22.080 Then right after I heard that, I heard Rappers of Light. 0:57:23.200 --> 0:57:26.479 So everybody is getting turntables and all of a sudden, 0:57:26.560 --> 0:57:30.200 this record rappers. The light is everywhere, But I still 0:57:30.240 --> 0:57:36.400 didn't care until I had Big Bang Hanks rhyme about Superman. 0:57:37.280 --> 0:57:39.560 Oh shit, like, I don't care about hip hop to 0:57:39.640 --> 0:57:43.400 him because people that mod talks about this too. At 0:57:43.480 --> 0:57:45.640 that time, I didn't notice there was an older hip 0:57:45.680 --> 0:57:48.160 hop and the younger hip hop. There was the DJ 0:57:48.360 --> 0:57:51.920 Hollywoods and the Eddie Cheebers and the Pete DJ Jones 0:57:52.000 --> 0:57:56.520 and those. There was the disco DJ rapping man, clap 0:57:56.640 --> 0:57:57.400 your hands. 0:57:57.160 --> 0:58:00.680 I'm in the disco. It was all disco, just sto 0:58:00.880 --> 0:58:03.200 he I'm a rapping man and on my hands. So 0:58:03.640 --> 0:58:05.440 it was those dudes, you know what I'm saying, The 0:58:05.560 --> 0:58:06.200 rappers the Light. 0:58:06.320 --> 0:58:08.880 That first rhyme was that to me, But then I 0:58:09.040 --> 0:58:12.720 heard Banks rhyme, not knowing that I would discover later 0:58:12.800 --> 0:58:15.680 on when the Cold Crush tapes came out dude that 0:58:15.800 --> 0:58:17.560 wrote that, but his was different. 0:58:17.640 --> 0:58:20.400 Emp to them. The ladies pimp the women, fight for 0:58:20.560 --> 0:58:22.840 my delight because I'm the grand master with the three 0:58:22.880 --> 0:58:24.720 because he was grand Master Kaz and he had he 0:58:24.840 --> 0:58:26.880 was a DJ and stuff that so long, Sir short, 0:58:26.960 --> 0:58:30.720 I hear Rappers the Light and the only reason I 0:58:31.080 --> 0:58:32.200 listen to Rappers of Light. 0:58:32.200 --> 0:58:33.840 Put it on the record and listen to it three 0:58:33.880 --> 0:58:35.240 times from start to finish. 0:58:35.560 --> 0:58:35.760 Wow. 0:58:35.960 --> 0:58:38.000 But that got me in trouble because now all the 0:58:38.080 --> 0:58:42.000 bullies and the hard rocks, you know, thugs, they were 0:58:42.000 --> 0:58:42.800 put hard rocks back. 0:58:44.040 --> 0:58:46.920 He got a fresh nigg and he walk hard. You 0:58:47.000 --> 0:58:49.400 gonna watch out put all rocks, you know, say go 0:58:49.440 --> 0:58:50.640 down the block. That's me. 0:58:50.920 --> 0:58:55.160 But now by me knowing Rappers of Light from start 0:58:55.200 --> 0:58:57.320 to finish, your motherfucker come over here. 0:58:57.960 --> 0:58:58.640 Sing Rappers. 0:59:00.120 --> 0:59:02.680 Wasn't a box around and how was that dude? So 0:59:02.880 --> 0:59:06.919 this happened on My brother brought Rappers the Light home, 0:59:07.240 --> 0:59:08.840 and I tell the story of the time. It was 0:59:09.000 --> 0:59:11.880 very attractive, light blue label with the rainbow, so it 0:59:11.960 --> 0:59:14.280 stood out. A couple of weeks later, he brings home 0:59:14.400 --> 0:59:18.560 this land. It was a white cutcase. In the red label. 0:59:18.680 --> 0:59:20.800 It just said in joy right. 0:59:21.240 --> 0:59:21.479 Wow. 0:59:21.680 --> 0:59:24.720 So I'm busy doing the grand Master Flash it I 0:59:24.800 --> 0:59:28.800 read the label. It says grand Master Flash and the 0:59:28.920 --> 0:59:29.680 Furies Fire. 0:59:30.600 --> 0:59:33.840 I'm like, oh ship, what the fuck like I'm trying 0:59:33.880 --> 0:59:34.760 to do that? Now? 0:59:34.800 --> 0:59:40.040 He got other motherfucker. But I didn't know what was 0:59:40.120 --> 0:59:43.320 about to happen to me. There was Grandmaster flashing Furries five, 0:59:43.360 --> 0:59:45.160 and I was like Okay, my brother put that ship 0:59:45.240 --> 0:59:46.080 on the turntable. 0:59:50.720 --> 0:59:51.480 Now if you put. 0:59:51.400 --> 0:59:55.919 Rappers of Light on Bloom Gloom. But it was dope 0:59:55.920 --> 0:59:58.640 because nobody was hearing it when you first heard that ship. 0:59:59.120 --> 1:00:01.840 But it ain't this ship. My father put that shit on. 1:00:01.960 --> 1:00:04.720 This ship said it was a party night. Everybody was 1:00:04.800 --> 1:00:07.040 breaking in the highs. What's screaming in the base, what's 1:00:07.080 --> 1:00:09.800 shaking in It won't be long till everybody knowing that 1:00:10.000 --> 1:00:16.040 flashes on the be box going and and then it 1:00:16.160 --> 1:00:19.160 goes shinin down. Now, if you listen to Rappers the Light, 1:00:20.320 --> 1:00:23.200 this ship is a long ash record eight minutes right 1:00:23.320 --> 1:00:27.760 with three motherfuckers rhyming individually, very long rhymes. 1:00:28.240 --> 1:00:31.920 My motherfucker go third month, second, third, break and do. 1:00:32.000 --> 1:00:35.520 It all again. This shit says shot out now and 1:00:35.600 --> 1:00:38.720 then the voice says this this blue my mom. I 1:00:38.800 --> 1:00:41.760 had heard Eddie Cheeba shout out to him one of 1:00:41.840 --> 1:00:44.440 the first radio hip hop radio shows. He was on 1:00:44.680 --> 1:00:45.400 w f u V. 1:00:46.000 --> 1:00:48.080 I couldn't get it in Queens unless I turned the 1:00:48.160 --> 1:00:51.160 antenna a certain way, but it was still statically. So 1:00:51.240 --> 1:00:54.680 I had first heard, excuse me, I had first heard 1:00:55.080 --> 1:00:58.320 Eddie Cheevers saying rhyme. He said, when you mess around 1:00:58.520 --> 1:01:00.960 in New York Town, you go down with the disco 1:01:01.200 --> 1:01:01.920 Chieber clown. 1:01:02.000 --> 1:01:04.760 You go down, go down, go down. You just keep 1:01:04.840 --> 1:01:09.120 the pep. It was very inspirational too. Keep the pep 1:01:09.400 --> 1:01:11.440 in your step. You don't stop till you get on 1:01:11.600 --> 1:01:13.760 the mountain top. And when you reach the top, you 1:01:13.880 --> 1:01:15.920 reach the peak. And then he says, that's when you 1:01:16.080 --> 1:01:18.320 hear Eddie Cheeber speak. And I'm like this motherfucker on 1:01:18.360 --> 1:01:22.440 top of mountains. You know, I'm a kid. I don't know. 1:01:22.560 --> 1:01:25.200 I'm it's going at the box. But this shit said, 1:01:25.320 --> 1:01:32.040 shot on now. And then the voice goes Italian, Caucasian, Japanese, Spanish, Indian, 1:01:32.120 --> 1:01:36.360 knee grow v at the knees, M see this jockeys, 1:01:36.440 --> 1:01:38.720 y'all fly kids for the young ladies. 1:01:38.760 --> 1:01:41.280 And then the beat drop, and this motherfucker said, introducing 1:01:41.320 --> 1:01:43.880 the crew, you got to see the belief. Five different 1:01:43.960 --> 1:01:46.760 voices were one, two, three, four, five, and sees. The 1:01:46.800 --> 1:01:49.720 first motherfucker said, I'm Melly Mail and a rocket so well. 1:01:50.040 --> 1:01:52.560 The second motherfucker said, and I'm missing this because I 1:01:52.680 --> 1:01:55.720 rocked the best. Third dude said rahem and all the 1:01:55.840 --> 1:01:58.240 ladies dreaming and the fourth dude said cow boy, and 1:01:58.320 --> 1:02:00.840 I make it jump for joy in the fifth dude 1:02:00.960 --> 1:02:04.520 just yells creole. The other forur motherfucker's gonna solid gold 1:02:04.840 --> 1:02:07.240 kid creole. They're going playing a role. And then Mel says, 1:02:07.440 --> 1:02:10.360 dig this where the furrious five plus grand Master flash 1:02:10.640 --> 1:02:12.920 giving you a blast to show enough class. So to 1:02:13.040 --> 1:02:15.760 prove to you all that was second enough, We're gonna 1:02:15.800 --> 1:02:18.840 make five MC sound like one. I went running, get 1:02:19.040 --> 1:02:19.320 me up. 1:02:21.840 --> 1:02:23.920 I'm running in the house getting me up. 1:02:24.560 --> 1:02:26.720 So that day this is how it became easy D 1:02:27.200 --> 1:02:31.000 in my basement. In my basement, I'm grand Master get high. 1:02:31.360 --> 1:02:34.120 But that just taught me the DJ. The grand Master 1:02:34.240 --> 1:02:37.600 has these rappers, so I also became MC easy D. 1:02:38.000 --> 1:02:40.400 I was my own MC in my basement. Oh shit. 1:02:41.560 --> 1:02:44.160 So by the time Run call, all of that shit 1:02:44.280 --> 1:02:44.880 was piled up. 1:02:44.920 --> 1:02:46.680 That's why I run said grab you around book when 1:02:46.720 --> 1:02:48.680 going to the studio, So all I had to do 1:02:48.760 --> 1:02:51.200 when it was time to make records, Run had the 1:02:51.280 --> 1:02:53.760 idea for us like that, Yo, we're gonna make he 1:02:53.880 --> 1:02:55.680 called me up. Yo, We're gonna write a record about 1:02:55.680 --> 1:02:57.520 how the world is. Because I was a straight a student, 1:02:57.600 --> 1:02:59.200 just write a bunch of rounds about how the world 1:02:59.320 --> 1:02:59.640 is cool. 1:03:00.520 --> 1:03:01.640 So we go in the studio. 1:03:01.720 --> 1:03:04.760 We make it like that, unemployed switching off stuff like that. 1:03:05.240 --> 1:03:09.920 Russell's still not impressed with me. People don't notice. Originally 1:03:10.160 --> 1:03:15.000 I think, I think search talk to you about this. 1:03:16.360 --> 1:03:18.680 Originally he's there, I saw that episode. 1:03:18.760 --> 1:03:21.280 Huh, he said. Run was originally a solo group. 1:03:21.600 --> 1:03:24.320 What Russell was gonna do is remember the early disco 1:03:24.480 --> 1:03:27.000 records where the fat black lady would sing, but the 1:03:27.120 --> 1:03:31.880 pretty model girls would go in to wash. So Russell 1:03:32.040 --> 1:03:35.360 let me make and perform in the studio. It's like 1:03:35.480 --> 1:03:38.919 that with Joe, but he was going to tour by hisself. 1:03:41.200 --> 1:03:45.200 And it was lucky I was Run DMC because if 1:03:45.240 --> 1:03:47.200 I didn't work out, it would have been Run the MC. 1:03:50.400 --> 1:03:51.960 So but this is what happened. 1:03:52.760 --> 1:03:54.840 We do it like that cool, and Russell was like, 1:03:54.880 --> 1:03:56.640 yode ghost to fuck down, get out the way. 1:03:56.640 --> 1:03:58.240 He's about to be the first ghost writer, not the first, 1:03:58.280 --> 1:03:59.440 but a ghost writer basically. 1:04:00.880 --> 1:04:03.600 So Run goes in there. He got sucking seeds already written. 1:04:04.000 --> 1:04:05.640 Why do you think he rhyme three times on a 1:04:05.720 --> 1:04:09.200 record that was one of his solo records for his career. 1:04:09.560 --> 1:04:11.560 So he go and drop the rhymes and then he 1:04:11.680 --> 1:04:13.760 comes out to booth and he says, d going in 1:04:13.920 --> 1:04:16.320 saying rhyme, and I go, nah man, trying to get 1:04:16.360 --> 1:04:18.720 me in trouble with this because Russell would come and 1:04:18.880 --> 1:04:20.840 after I made this, like russellould be on some ship 1:04:20.920 --> 1:04:21.040 like that. 1:04:21.120 --> 1:04:26.680 You know you're still here. It's like his whole ship 1:04:26.800 --> 1:04:27.400 was for his brother. 1:04:27.560 --> 1:04:30.240 He had, oh ship, Curtis Blow, You're gonna go to 1:04:30.280 --> 1:04:32.520 Europe just and that. Matter of fact, here's what's crazy 1:04:33.080 --> 1:04:35.840 runs D and and one of the reasons Runs wanted 1:04:35.880 --> 1:04:36.439 me in the group. 1:04:36.480 --> 1:04:37.480 And he was crying to me. 1:04:38.200 --> 1:04:42.480 Russell was going to have and she's documented in in London, 1:04:42.520 --> 1:04:45.840 there was a DJ named DJ Lady Blue and she 1:04:46.000 --> 1:04:47.480 was She was one of the first people to play 1:04:47.520 --> 1:04:50.360 hip hop. Russell was gonna make Lady Blue Runs DJ. 1:04:51.160 --> 1:04:57.600 But Lady Blue had a pantomime pop dancer, Crazy Ship, 1:04:58.080 --> 1:05:01.240 a pantomime locker dancer, and. 1:05:01.320 --> 1:05:04.160 Run with good. You gotta be in the group. He 1:05:04.240 --> 1:05:06.240 says to go, I want to be from the Pandemon 1:05:07.400 --> 1:05:08.680 saying back then it was like. 1:05:09.360 --> 1:05:13.480 So Brun says, motherfucker, just go in the booth and 1:05:13.600 --> 1:05:14.600 say your new rhyme. 1:05:15.160 --> 1:05:16.080 So I go in the room. 1:05:16.280 --> 1:05:18.560 I'm gonna pass the mic with you, DMC. And if 1:05:18.600 --> 1:05:21.200 you're ready to people rock and steady. You're driving big cars. 1:05:21.240 --> 1:05:24.080 Get your gash from Getty, say something, motherfucker. So I'm 1:05:24.120 --> 1:05:24.480 in the boob. 1:05:24.560 --> 1:05:26.960 Okay, he going there, he lays it. I go in 1:05:27.040 --> 1:05:27.440 the booth. 1:05:28.040 --> 1:05:31.000 And then what did I do When I got my 1:05:31.080 --> 1:05:35.160 acceptance letter? He said, say your newest rhyme. I'm DMC 1:05:35.640 --> 1:05:38.720 and the place to be ill go to Saint John's University. 1:05:39.160 --> 1:05:42.640 And since kennygarn And out cried the knowledge and I'm 1:05:42.640 --> 1:05:46.080 gonna Shay Collins, I'm lights. That was really funny. People 1:05:46.120 --> 1:05:48.720 say you ain't light back then, I was like lighter. 1:05:48.800 --> 1:05:49.400 I'll show you. 1:05:51.320 --> 1:05:52.520 Be cause you ain't light skinned. 1:05:52.560 --> 1:05:56.240 No, back then I was really nice. No, I was red, 1:05:56.360 --> 1:05:58.040 like you could touch my skin. And on the turn 1:05:58.120 --> 1:05:58.680 I was light. 1:06:00.880 --> 1:06:05.320 So I kicked the rhyme of Larry Smith Roddy Hew 1:06:05.560 --> 1:06:06.640 engineer at Green Street. 1:06:07.040 --> 1:06:09.520 They're fucking losing it. But hold on, let me stop 1:06:09.560 --> 1:06:11.440 you for a second. Do you know how legendary that 1:06:11.560 --> 1:06:14.040 rhyme is? So you're telling me that's your first rhyme 1:06:14.240 --> 1:06:18.600 on record, can we say that over the town? The 1:06:18.680 --> 1:06:22.120 whole one I'm DMC in the place to be. I'll 1:06:22.160 --> 1:06:26.160 go to Saint Johne University. And since Kindergartland, I quiet 1:06:26.200 --> 1:06:28.960 and knowledge that the twelfth grade I went straight to college. 1:06:29.000 --> 1:06:31.720 I'm light skin. I love in Queens. I love it 1:06:32.480 --> 1:06:38.560 live in Queens. I love each chicken and college. Hold on, yeah, 1:06:38.640 --> 1:06:40.040 nobody was doing that ship right. 1:06:41.440 --> 1:06:42.720 That was like I thought I owned. 1:06:42.840 --> 1:06:44.720 I was only a nigga eat chicken colle Queens at 1:06:44.720 --> 1:06:50.520 that time. And I said, wait a minute, Yeah, that's 1:06:50.560 --> 1:06:55.840 the beauty on my round. I dressed to kill. I 1:06:55.960 --> 1:06:59.120 love this stuff imming them. You know who's versatile, said, 1:06:59.200 --> 1:07:01.680 got good credit in your regards. I got my name, 1:07:01.800 --> 1:07:04.920 not numbers on my credit cards. Go uptown a come 1:07:05.000 --> 1:07:07.720 back home with foo, me and myself and my microphone. 1:07:08.000 --> 1:07:10.880 All my rhyms a sweet delight. So here's another one 1:07:11.000 --> 1:07:13.880 for y'all to bite. When a rhyme, I never quit 1:07:13.960 --> 1:07:15.080 and then forgot a new rhyme. 1:07:15.160 --> 1:07:18.320 I'll just say it because it takes a lot to entertain, 1:07:18.560 --> 1:07:20.520 and sucking cease can be a pain. 1:07:20.840 --> 1:07:22.760 You can't rock a party with a hip in hop. 1:07:23.040 --> 1:07:25.560 You gotta let him know you'll never stop. Your rhym's 1:07:25.600 --> 1:07:27.800 gotta make a lot of sense. You gotta know when 1:07:27.880 --> 1:07:29.400 to start one the beast coming. 1:07:31.360 --> 1:07:32.160 That one verse. 1:07:32.400 --> 1:07:36.240 It's like my introduction and my solidification. 1:07:36.400 --> 1:07:38.680 But here's a man dollar question. Yep, did you have 1:07:38.800 --> 1:07:39.680 good credit back then? 1:07:40.200 --> 1:07:40.240 No? 1:07:40.360 --> 1:07:44.560 I have no credit. I ain't no credit. Sorry. 1:07:44.680 --> 1:07:48.440 What the beauty about hip hoty? You don't realize how 1:07:48.520 --> 1:07:53.080 prophetic it is? All of before recorded wrap? What didn't meld? 1:07:53.360 --> 1:07:58.000 What did the first five four, Cold Course, Fantastic five, 1:07:58.120 --> 1:08:03.520 Crash Crew, Treacherous, three, Busy Beat, Starsky Love Books, Starsky. 1:08:03.480 --> 1:08:06.520 Uh spoony g? What did they all prophesy? 1:08:07.400 --> 1:08:10.400 Rock, shocking, amazing and make you feel shame one day? 1:08:10.440 --> 1:08:14.280 Our names that we found in the Hall of Fame, Yeah, 1:08:14.320 --> 1:08:18.320 they predicted it. Yeah. Man. So speaking on prediction, ship, 1:08:19.000 --> 1:08:22.760 my whole ship came from stan Lee because if you 1:08:23.000 --> 1:08:25.080 if you look at Wu Tang with the alter egos 1:08:25.400 --> 1:08:28.439 on the stocks that ship. Yeah, so we are all 1:08:28.760 --> 1:08:30.080 products of pop culture. 1:08:30.960 --> 1:08:34.240 All as I said before you, Yes, I'm cold crushed, Yes, 1:08:35.320 --> 1:08:37.040 all the metal songs that are there, but I'm also 1:08:37.120 --> 1:08:41.120 the Brady Bunch and Adams Fan and the Flintstones. All 1:08:41.200 --> 1:08:43.320 of that ship is like a part of me and 1:08:43.520 --> 1:08:46.440 Jeffersons and the Jeffersons and Archie Bunker. 1:08:47.760 --> 1:08:48.120 Queens. 1:08:48.439 --> 1:08:52.760 Fucking yes, the Honeymooners. 1:08:54.560 --> 1:08:55.519 On Sunday and. 1:08:55.560 --> 1:08:56.360 What's what's my girl? 1:08:56.360 --> 1:08:59.960 What's my girl? Lucy? All right, that's the first Cuban 1:09:01.680 --> 1:09:10.320 exactly when you be a Dominican too, you're talking about 1:09:13.280 --> 1:09:15.920 Chester you and me? Was wrong? No, it was he 1:09:16.000 --> 1:09:16.680 was about to say that. 1:09:18.840 --> 1:09:24.240 Day. He was like, we went before we get into 1:09:24.280 --> 1:09:26.760 that point, before we leave the Stanley's. Did did you 1:09:26.800 --> 1:09:29.240 get to meet Stanley? When I met him two times? 1:09:29.320 --> 1:09:32.479 We became homeboys. And it's crazy that because obviously this 1:09:32.640 --> 1:09:35.000 is you know, comic books were a passion that you 1:09:35.200 --> 1:09:39.200 sold stuff that was your passion for another passion and 1:09:39.280 --> 1:09:41.600 the full circle. Now come back and be able to 1:09:41.680 --> 1:09:44.600 do something that you were about and not planning on 1:09:44.760 --> 1:09:45.920 that crazy, that's Miles. 1:09:46.200 --> 1:09:49.320 But stan Lee came out and he talked, I go 1:09:49.400 --> 1:09:51.160 to schools and I talk about this ship. How did 1:09:51.200 --> 1:09:54.280 you meet him at Comic Connor said, I gotta go, mister, 1:09:57.439 --> 1:10:04.639 you're like some nurse. Listen, if you go over comic books, 1:10:04.720 --> 1:10:07.000 that's the really you gotta know about that weekend. You 1:10:07.560 --> 1:10:11.680 gotta you gotta be in tune to know about you 1:10:11.800 --> 1:10:19.040 know what I'm gonna be honest. I watched uh arentearage 1:10:19.080 --> 1:10:22.720 where they where they went to comic com everybody is 1:10:22.840 --> 1:10:24.320 dressed like the superheroes that they like. 1:10:25.080 --> 1:10:28.479 Yeah, superheroes is comic books, as TV shows, the Star Wars, 1:10:28.600 --> 1:10:32.320 it's all of that ship. But stan Lee taught me 1:10:32.439 --> 1:10:37.599 something that set me up greatly to to fucking prosper 1:10:37.680 --> 1:10:39.760 in this ship. And I tell cares about this. 1:10:39.960 --> 1:10:43.760 Stan Lee taught me like when when when when I 1:10:43.920 --> 1:10:47.320 was reading the comic books, and I'm a school kid, 1:10:47.400 --> 1:10:48.479 so I was like, you know what the funk? I 1:10:48.520 --> 1:10:51.320 gotta know what the adjective is for. But the fact 1:10:51.360 --> 1:10:53.320 that I got taught with the adjective for, I noticed, 1:10:53.320 --> 1:10:55.360 if you notice what all the superheroes they ain't just 1:10:55.520 --> 1:10:58.880 who they are. If I say the amazing, you'll say 1:11:00.640 --> 1:11:02.320 if I say the amazing, you'll say. 1:11:03.680 --> 1:11:08.160 If I say the invincible, you'll say incredible, Hulk incredible. 1:11:08.200 --> 1:11:10.599 If I say incredible, you'll say the guy to him, 1:11:10.640 --> 1:11:16.599 or if I say mighty. So Stanley, tell who you are. 1:11:17.640 --> 1:11:21.439 Find an adjective this powerful, productive and positive, and put 1:11:21.479 --> 1:11:24.519 it before it so I get to rise high school. 1:11:24.600 --> 1:11:30.000 Spider Man's amazing, Iron Man's invincible Hulk is incredible, Thora 1:11:30.040 --> 1:11:31.599 is mighty. So I get to Rice High School now 1:11:31.920 --> 1:11:34.439 and I'm realizing, oh, this shit ain't just about making records. 1:11:34.479 --> 1:11:37.679 It's just like some real cultural way of life shit. 1:11:38.720 --> 1:11:43.240 So I'm buying all the tapes from Terrence Washington and 1:11:43.360 --> 1:11:45.840 this is twelfth grade now, so nine, ten, eleven, twelve, 1:11:45.840 --> 1:11:48.920 because I'm spending all my money on these tapes hearing 1:11:49.000 --> 1:11:51.200 the beats. When I was a kid, I grew up 1:11:51.240 --> 1:11:55.240 loving seventies rock radio. I'm here in Theodore and Bam 1:11:55.400 --> 1:11:58.240 and all of them used to break rock records to 1:11:58.280 --> 1:12:02.519 wrap over run MC didn't great rock wrap dated. We 1:12:02.680 --> 1:12:04.240 just did in the record and got all the money. 1:12:04.280 --> 1:12:07.920 Well, you popularized it, right. So I get the twelfth 1:12:07.960 --> 1:12:11.439 grade and there's one tape in the middle of the 1:12:11.520 --> 1:12:15.720 cassette thing. It says twelve dollars. I'm like, damn, I 1:12:15.760 --> 1:12:19.040 ain't got twelve dollars. Was that expecific back then? Yeah? Okay, 1:12:19.560 --> 1:12:22.760 what was the tape? Five dollars? Yeah, the typical tapes 1:12:22.880 --> 1:12:25.880 was three to seven. Oh okay, oh wow, And that's good. 1:12:25.960 --> 1:12:26.720 Just you get caught, but. 1:12:26.720 --> 1:12:29.800 You're getting You're not a kid fight dolls in that era. Yeah, 1:12:29.960 --> 1:12:32.320 is there no fucking money and you broke it. Shit, 1:12:33.120 --> 1:12:36.160 I'm lying every day. My father was like starting to 1:12:36.200 --> 1:12:38.040 bug out on me. It was like, how come every 1:12:38.080 --> 1:12:39.240 day you fucking need a book? 1:12:39.680 --> 1:12:43.719 Dad? I need so you buy it. Tape somebody takes. 1:12:43.720 --> 1:12:45.160 But there was the one tape in the middle and 1:12:45.240 --> 1:12:48.800 that just said twelve dollars and it says c C 1:12:49.120 --> 1:12:53.160 four versus the Fantastic five. At harlemor So, I asked 1:12:53.200 --> 1:12:54.240 Tim and show what's that one? 1:12:54.280 --> 1:12:57.439 You can't have that one? No time with it. They 1:12:57.479 --> 1:12:59.840 don't even pay attention to that one. Wow. 1:13:00.400 --> 1:13:03.160 And then he hits me with this CEC is Cold Crush. Okay, 1:13:03.200 --> 1:13:05.000 I don't know that yet, Like, what's the CC four 1:13:05.040 --> 1:13:08.439 because I'm used to Treacher Street right, Funky four plus one, 1:13:09.080 --> 1:13:13.240 Fantastic five, first five, double trouble. He goes, that's the 1:13:13.400 --> 1:13:17.320 Cold Crush four. Now I had never heard. Fuck, it's 1:13:17.360 --> 1:13:20.640 the Now why can't it be the Fantastic for it? 1:13:21.560 --> 1:13:23.280 He says, you can't have that one? 1:13:23.479 --> 1:13:24.240 Now you know I want it. 1:13:25.520 --> 1:13:28.040 That was it's like telling us, now, what are you 1:13:28.080 --> 1:13:28.559 gonna do one? 1:13:28.600 --> 1:13:32.280 That's what you want? Cold Crush four vers The Fantastic five, 1:13:32.360 --> 1:13:36.320 And had the world you can't have that one yo. 1:13:36.479 --> 1:13:38.519 I gotta have that one man. Yo, I got eight 1:13:38.640 --> 1:13:44.040 dollars like he was, okay, here take this ship. 1:13:44.080 --> 1:13:45.880 You owe me four dollars, Get the fuck away from 1:13:45.920 --> 1:13:51.759 me like type like I took that ship home. Note 1:13:51.840 --> 1:13:53.639 heard yes, yes, y'are to the beach. 1:13:53.720 --> 1:13:58.559 Y'all Apache, super Sperm, Coumo d with the super Duper Party, 1:13:58.600 --> 1:14:00.760 Pooper Man with full of super due for disco band 1:14:00.960 --> 1:14:02.519 fast Fire and all of that ship. 1:14:02.880 --> 1:14:05.920 I hurd melly mal. I heard Shah Rock who inspired me? 1:14:08.920 --> 1:14:12.080 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got my style. Using an echo 1:14:12.160 --> 1:14:14.920 from Shah Rock. A girl female, you say, I heard 1:14:14.920 --> 1:14:16.719 her go to all of you. My name is shah 1:14:17.360 --> 1:14:19.960 not a millionaire. I want to do that jay so Ja, 1:14:21.800 --> 1:14:24.000 my name is dm C see all time great great, 1:14:24.160 --> 1:14:28.599 but the most round rounds New York State, producing yap 1:14:28.640 --> 1:14:32.000 from Sharrock. I have Wow Rock you never smoked weed? 1:14:32.040 --> 1:14:34.920 You wo remember everything? No, it is smoked weed and 1:14:35.040 --> 1:14:36.759 he didn't some cocaine. 1:14:37.280 --> 1:14:38.559 Yes, that's the picture. 1:14:40.960 --> 1:14:48.479 He was a rock. I said, you know, we didn't 1:14:48.520 --> 1:14:54.000 know get down like twenty second Street. You know what 1:14:54.040 --> 1:14:55.639 I'm saying. Forget, I'm sorry. 1:14:55.920 --> 1:15:01.519 So I take this tape home and and and I 1:15:01.680 --> 1:15:03.439 remember when I played it for Joe too, it had 1:15:03.479 --> 1:15:06.800 the same effect. I put the tape on and my 1:15:06.920 --> 1:15:12.200 brother Samuel Box not too speaking. This single one for boomboxes. 1:15:12.560 --> 1:15:15.360 You know hip hop's crazy ear ring jukie ear rings. 1:15:17.040 --> 1:15:20.360 So this is before the Boom Boom box, okay everywhere. 1:15:22.479 --> 1:15:24.639 My brother didn't have enough money to look at Boom yet. Okay, 1:15:24.960 --> 1:15:27.439 So I put the ship on. This ship goes what's up? 1:15:27.560 --> 1:15:31.280 Fly Girls? No, what's up fly guy? Her little fly girls. 1:15:31.479 --> 1:15:34.759 It's the big throw down at Harlem World called Crush 1:15:34.840 --> 1:15:38.320 four versus Fantastic five. They ain't no cop. 1:15:38.439 --> 1:15:41.240 We'll eat them alive because we're the best when it 1:15:41.360 --> 1:15:43.720 comes to wrapping. And like the fly I said, it 1:15:43.840 --> 1:15:46.080 is bound to happen. So the bat time is now. 1:15:46.400 --> 1:15:48.880 Let the battle begin and let the crowd be the 1:15:49.040 --> 1:15:53.200 judge off who win, because we don't need tuxedos, because 1:15:53.320 --> 1:15:56.559 all we want to do is Dog Kevin Dot Master, 1:15:56.760 --> 1:15:59.720 Robin Whip and Ruby D like we always do, say 1:15:59.840 --> 1:16:04.000 what we bad Old Fantastic and here's a little gift 1:16:04.360 --> 1:16:06.559 so before they go, they all can know. 1:16:07.000 --> 1:16:15.280 Just who they're fucking that ship, like whoa what this is? 1:16:15.520 --> 1:16:19.560 And then it was where Charlie chased Tony Tone and 1:16:20.120 --> 1:16:24.639 I never heard this, the cold crushing, mother fucking tough 1:16:24.720 --> 1:16:28.120 ast for MC. Charlie chases to the Puerto Rican. Yeah, 1:16:28.360 --> 1:16:32.200 Puerto Rican DJ named John once again North, give me 1:16:32.280 --> 1:16:36.600 a pen, right, give me a pain, changing all of 1:16:36.720 --> 1:16:39.280 that living queens, and I'm just and that shit. I'm 1:16:39.280 --> 1:16:42.920 getting ready to fucking destroy motherfuckers. 1:16:42.840 --> 1:16:46.560 Devastating by control of DMC and carectation. But here's what 1:16:46.880 --> 1:16:50.960 the reason why I made the comic book Amazing, Spider Man, Incredible, 1:16:51.000 --> 1:16:51.679 Hulk Invincible. 1:16:51.720 --> 1:16:52.040 I am inn. 1:16:52.640 --> 1:16:56.680 On that tape, they had names the Hutton Maker, J 1:16:56.800 --> 1:17:00.360 D L, The Almighty KD, the Girl Take It Easy 1:17:00.439 --> 1:17:00.720 a D. 1:17:01.320 --> 1:17:04.719 So I'm in Rice High School. I'm listening to this tape. 1:17:04.920 --> 1:17:07.160 I'm taking typing and that's the end of a letter. 1:17:07.200 --> 1:17:10.320 You're supposed to type your initials, right, So I'm still 1:17:10.360 --> 1:17:14.160 easy D. They drop rocking in the pocket Joom koom 1:17:14.200 --> 1:17:17.519 joom jen joom doom joom jun j joom dune joom 1:17:17.600 --> 1:17:21.240 jin juomo joo jump. Then they go, we're not talking 1:17:21.520 --> 1:17:25.240 about your mother, your mother, not talking about your uncle, 1:17:25.400 --> 1:17:28.560 your uncle, not talking about your father, your father, not 1:17:28.640 --> 1:17:31.320 your mother, no other, no other other other, and then 1:17:31.400 --> 1:17:34.840 over rocking in the pocket they start doing Yeah, all 1:17:34.880 --> 1:17:38.160 the other MC's can't deal with us because we are 1:17:38.280 --> 1:17:40.839 the four and on as the cold crush, putting fellas 1:17:40.880 --> 1:17:43.400 on the jock making fly girls rock. You know, we 1:17:43.560 --> 1:17:46.320 got a funky song and you can come and sing 1:17:46.439 --> 1:17:48.679 and dance up. Guse you g We got the two 1:17:48.920 --> 1:17:52.679 ms two DJs on the wheels are steal Charlie chasing 1:17:52.760 --> 1:17:55.200 tony tone at the top of the field telling all 1:17:55.240 --> 1:17:57.560 the competition got the b for real. We rock a 1:17:57.640 --> 1:18:00.439 party to the break of day, and this since our 1:18:00.560 --> 1:18:03.680 sound one we play. We are the four mcs with 1:18:03.840 --> 1:18:06.160 the most respect and if you want to throw joints, 1:18:06.160 --> 1:18:08.400 you gotta come correct. We might have to take you 1:18:08.479 --> 1:18:10.599 out and keep your crew in check because the CC 1:18:10.760 --> 1:18:14.360 four is number one. They got the walk before you won. 1:18:14.560 --> 1:18:15.040 What hell? 1:18:15.200 --> 1:18:18.120 The initials of my name g MC and it's gonna 1:18:20.080 --> 1:18:24.280 get the higher power body rocket in the galaxy. Oh 1:18:24.400 --> 1:18:24.800 my god. 1:18:24.960 --> 1:18:28.280 Then the L comes on the initials of my name 1:18:28.600 --> 1:18:31.320 jd L. I wanna go to heaven for I go 1:18:31.600 --> 1:18:34.280 to hell because I'm pushing more power than a door, 1:18:34.600 --> 1:18:36.880 self better than the oldest and the newest. 1:18:36.920 --> 1:18:39.920 What's your name? My name is Sherry d Lewis. Tenn 1:18:39.960 --> 1:18:43.360 has killed me. The initials of my name E A D. 1:18:43.840 --> 1:18:46.519 The baddest thing to hit New York since O E 1:18:47.120 --> 1:18:51.480 lost it. So I said, Darryl McDaniels is the initials 1:18:51.520 --> 1:18:52.320 of my name. 1:18:52.240 --> 1:18:56.519 D from Daryl. I'm becoming d m C because of GMC, 1:18:57.479 --> 1:19:00.120 and flat and Cast hated me. But then when I 1:19:00.200 --> 1:19:03.880 met him and told him that, he almost cried Grandma's cast. Yeah, 1:19:04.240 --> 1:19:06.559 he hated you came d m C because of GMC, 1:19:06.760 --> 1:19:16.519 but he hated Holy Ship, hated us because they were like, 1:19:16.680 --> 1:19:22.559 who the fuck? Because we now, no, no, we had 1:19:22.640 --> 1:19:28.120 areas in Queens that f Hollis. No way, I didn't 1:19:28.120 --> 1:19:32.000 know that. No, No, that frack was known. Hollis got known. 1:19:33.040 --> 1:19:36.080 Hollis started to get known around when everybody was saying 1:19:38.120 --> 1:19:40.759 do a diabet side, okay, But we was this little 1:19:40.840 --> 1:19:42.680 click we was. We was a little and we was 1:19:42.760 --> 1:19:44.960 only like ten blocks and stuff. But we started getting 1:19:45.000 --> 1:19:48.599 known because we was fighting every We was fighting all 1:19:48.680 --> 1:19:51.240 the south side, the south side. This is Hollie, right, 1:19:52.000 --> 1:19:54.479 that little jigger night you said. But what I'm trying 1:19:54.520 --> 1:19:57.160 to say is they were like who are they now? 1:19:57.920 --> 1:20:04.040 If you listen to step off my grandmaster flashing the 1:20:04.080 --> 1:20:13.280 first fire, they were talking about us, saying all yourself here, 1:20:13.320 --> 1:20:15.760 and she's a perpetrating the fraud. Well, what did Mel say? 1:20:16.439 --> 1:20:18.559 What did Mel say? On the step step step step? 1:20:18.640 --> 1:20:21.040 I was sitting on the corner just to waste my time. 1:20:21.160 --> 1:20:23.280 When I realized it was the King of the rhyme, 1:20:23.360 --> 1:20:25.559 I got on the microphone and what do you see? 1:20:25.800 --> 1:20:28.040 The rest was my legacy. I was born to be 1:20:28.120 --> 1:20:30.000 the king of this bi boy thing, to have stallions 1:20:30.040 --> 1:20:32.680 and my downs, big diamond rings, hold a mansion in 1:20:32.720 --> 1:20:34.720 the rock, food men in the go because rap is 1:20:34.760 --> 1:20:37.040 the game. Because I like Shakespeare, I'm a pion. Then 1:20:37.080 --> 1:20:39.719 because there may wrap something people wanted there because before. 1:20:39.600 --> 1:20:42.160 My right now, he said, little pieces of a dream 1:20:42.360 --> 1:20:43.200 is all you mean? 1:20:43.640 --> 1:20:47.400 Ever since you stepped on the ncccene, biting your moves, 1:20:47.560 --> 1:20:51.280 taking fake awards, seeing everyone else was perpetrating the fraud, 1:20:51.439 --> 1:20:54.360 but you nothing, Mel says that on it, Mel thought 1:20:55.000 --> 1:21:00.240 he told you that we were getting on there at 1:21:00.280 --> 1:21:02.280 the New York Music he was getting. 1:21:03.240 --> 1:21:05.800 Yeah, you guys were the eighty five getting. 1:21:05.560 --> 1:21:10.200 All those Never seemed happy. No, he's not but that's Mel. 1:21:11.520 --> 1:21:14.519 But Mel said he thought Run was talking about him 1:21:14.520 --> 1:21:15.559 on Stucker and seas you. 1:21:15.560 --> 1:21:17.760 Didn't feel brittle that they were coming at you. I 1:21:17.880 --> 1:21:20.479 would have thought them coming at Yeah, I don't know. 1:21:20.600 --> 1:21:21.479 I was scared that. 1:21:22.960 --> 1:21:25.200 This is new to me, this is the hold, this 1:21:25.400 --> 1:21:28.840 is that like, and they was just I didn't know 1:21:29.120 --> 1:21:33.920 it was that level of competitive. Yes, and it was 1:21:33.960 --> 1:21:36.560 almost like I was Run got real mad at me. 1:21:36.600 --> 1:21:38.800 I was like, I gotta stop rapping, oh ship, And 1:21:38.840 --> 1:21:41.760 he was like wow, because Mel, but come on, man, 1:21:42.680 --> 1:21:43.800 but you got it. I don't know. 1:21:45.320 --> 1:21:48.680 I'm a bedroom rapper, so this is Mel and more 1:21:48.720 --> 1:21:51.680 they mad at me. You know, you're like, the real 1:21:51.800 --> 1:21:52.800 dudes is mad right now. 1:21:53.000 --> 1:21:54.400 Yeah, It's like it's like. 1:21:54.439 --> 1:21:57.040 The ship where you're growing up in the hood and 1:21:57.160 --> 1:21:59.040 the dude say don't do that, and you don't do 1:21:59.160 --> 1:22:00.519 it like this fucking ship. 1:22:01.439 --> 1:22:03.240 So it's like, I can't do it no more because 1:22:03.280 --> 1:22:06.320 they don't want me to. Ron was like my Run 1:22:06.479 --> 1:22:07.720 rapp motherfucker. 1:22:07.920 --> 1:22:09.679 There was a time we was at the New York 1:22:09.800 --> 1:22:13.520 Music Awards and it was Run to him see Houdini, 1:22:13.680 --> 1:22:18.120 Curtis blow, Jimmy Spicer. So we was all together and 1:22:19.560 --> 1:22:22.680 Run was the son of Curtis Blow. So this day 1:22:22.920 --> 1:22:26.679 they the son grew up and cursed the father. We're 1:22:26.720 --> 1:22:29.760 sitting in the dressing room, so we had king I'm 1:22:29.800 --> 1:22:31.920 the King of rob. I'm saying this eighty five. 1:22:31.960 --> 1:22:32.320 I'm the king. 1:22:32.360 --> 1:22:34.240 I'm the King, I'm the King. Kurt was known as 1:22:34.240 --> 1:22:35.560 the King of Rap at the time. If you go 1:22:35.720 --> 1:22:38.879 look at Flyers and he was king of self imposed 1:22:38.960 --> 1:22:40.680 king of Rap was a King of Rap too. 1:22:41.320 --> 1:22:45.360 But run leaves the dressing room and I'm sitting in 1:22:45.360 --> 1:22:48.200 there with Kurk. Curtis Blow comes over to me and 1:22:48.320 --> 1:22:52.000 he says, now, you gotta understand, this is Curtis Blow 1:22:52.120 --> 1:22:53.640 to me. I don't know. 1:22:53.720 --> 1:22:56.200 I'm like Joe, I don't know Harlem, like I've never 1:22:56.280 --> 1:22:57.599 been to one hundred and twenty fifth Street. 1:22:57.600 --> 1:23:00.640 Tell him in the rice, right. So Curtis comes over 1:23:00.720 --> 1:23:04.240 to me and says, it's Curtis Ball, Yo, d you 1:23:04.320 --> 1:23:07.400 gotta stop saying king, You're the king. Now I would 1:23:07.400 --> 1:23:10.280 say I'm the King of Rock, but my king of Rock, 1:23:10.520 --> 1:23:12.760 they started calling me the king. Right. 1:23:13.000 --> 1:23:15.120 So he comes it is Curtis Flow, Yo, you gotta 1:23:15.200 --> 1:23:17.880 stop saying your king. So I don't know, no better 1:23:18.000 --> 1:23:22.600 know it okay because I'm taking like, did you Curtis blow. 1:23:23.880 --> 1:23:26.880 Way? So Ron comes back in and he's noticed my 1:23:27.000 --> 1:23:30.120 mood changed, right, so y yod, what's the matter And 1:23:30.240 --> 1:23:33.240 I innoctantly go, yeah, I'm trying to figure out who 1:23:33.280 --> 1:23:36.240 I'm gonna be. Now say why because Kurt told me 1:23:36.439 --> 1:23:40.880 I can't say king what in front of everyone? 1:23:41.040 --> 1:23:45.919 Mother fucker, you can't real Run went and on Kurt like, don't. 1:23:45.720 --> 1:23:49.600 You ever say that to my man? The character he 1:23:49.680 --> 1:23:52.519 wasn't Crush grovem right, right, Yo, he did that ship 1:23:52.560 --> 1:23:55.240 in real life. You gonna say that? And then Brenda's 1:23:55.240 --> 1:23:58.240 funny said, stream that shit hard and louder now, But 1:23:58.880 --> 1:24:02.840 that was the whole for me, that was the whole. 1:24:03.240 --> 1:24:05.599 That was the changing of the guards of anything, right, 1:24:06.120 --> 1:24:08.599 That's what was happening. It was right, but he wasn't 1:24:08.640 --> 1:24:09.680 ready to pass the tour. 1:24:10.160 --> 1:24:13.000 You know what I'm saying. But what I'm saying is 1:24:13.200 --> 1:24:20.639 my attitude. Everybody, my attitude, our attitude collective. Especially after 1:24:20.680 --> 1:24:22.920 I played the Coal Crush tape. 1:24:22.680 --> 1:24:24.880 For Run and Ron was funny when he heard the 1:24:25.240 --> 1:24:28.400 ram he run goals. I don't like Jerry d Lewis 1:24:28.400 --> 1:24:31.040 I like JD l not known it's the same person, 1:24:31.520 --> 1:24:36.120 but we just saw they was their rymen and chases 1:24:36.240 --> 1:24:38.880 cutting while they rhymen. So we said, that's what we're 1:24:38.920 --> 1:24:39.320 going to do. 1:24:39.560 --> 1:24:44.200 So those moments where the game changes of run DMC's presence, 1:24:45.040 --> 1:24:45.599 you know what I'm saying. 1:24:45.640 --> 1:24:47.040 It wasn't about making them happen. 1:24:47.200 --> 1:24:51.080 We got crazy major major hit records because we were 1:24:51.200 --> 1:24:52.040 just doing routines. 1:24:52.160 --> 1:24:55.040 It was rap routines. The Funky Four, I mean the. 1:24:56.000 --> 1:24:59.760 Force mcs but to force some seas before they were 1:24:59.800 --> 1:25:03.479 to or some ds STEVD and there Yo, they had 1:25:03.640 --> 1:25:07.280 bars stevd and they had bars. So if you look, 1:25:07.479 --> 1:25:11.280 if you take Tricky, for example, which is a universal 1:25:14.880 --> 1:25:17.360 that was that was a big good that was supposed 1:25:17.360 --> 1:25:24.280 to be done over numbers Boom boom jack. It's tricky 1:25:24.320 --> 1:25:27.799 to rocker rock. Tricky is just hey, Mickey, oh, Mickey, 1:25:27.920 --> 1:25:34.280 you're so fine, so fine, you boma what the man? 1:25:35.880 --> 1:25:38.120 You take the melody of the hot song, and then 1:25:38.160 --> 1:25:39.040 you talk about. 1:25:38.920 --> 1:25:40.120 Which is a form of sampling. 1:25:40.760 --> 1:25:43.200 Yeah, yeah, what do they call it when they redo 1:25:43.280 --> 1:25:44.360 the record? No, no cover. 1:25:44.479 --> 1:25:47.640 But this is in a sense, it's an interpret We. 1:25:49.400 --> 1:25:57.160 Called the Force and C fifty J doctor Rock he 1:25:57.640 --> 1:25:59.720 d Jays. 1:25:59.479 --> 1:26:02.280 And when and you drop ladies and gentlemen, you drop 1:26:03.400 --> 1:26:04.720 in piece of President. 1:26:04.800 --> 1:26:10.920 B D Jays and we MC here We're gone. It 1:26:11.040 --> 1:26:14.880 was all rhymes, routines. I got the Cold Crush, it's 1:26:15.040 --> 1:26:20.519 gi gantar Ji Gan the Giganto Robot cards. So we 1:26:20.760 --> 1:26:23.000 was like, we're gonna do rhyms and routine. Here we go. 1:26:23.280 --> 1:26:25.160 It's just here we go. 1:26:25.320 --> 1:26:28.000 It's just we put the tape on and you hear 1:26:28.160 --> 1:26:31.120 mode s start the show, Ladies and gentlemen, cool mode 1:26:31.280 --> 1:26:33.240 to the highest screen, the place to be on the wheel, 1:26:33.320 --> 1:26:35.920 steals DJ Easy Lebel and you go into the song. 1:26:36.360 --> 1:26:38.840 So here we go came about because now we're playing 1:26:38.880 --> 1:26:44.559 the Roxy La no New York. Okay, we're playing Roxy. 1:26:44.760 --> 1:26:49.880 Were playing fucking the Fever, were playing Dance Materia, but 1:26:49.960 --> 1:26:52.960 we're playing Roxy. And what's special about the Roxy is 1:26:53.360 --> 1:26:56.519 the Jo Nation had had locked down every Thursday night. 1:26:56.560 --> 1:26:59.160 I think it was a Friday night. So here's run 1:26:59.280 --> 1:27:02.320 DMC and Jay had a broken leg too. She had 1:27:02.360 --> 1:27:05.360 a broken leg. So we playing the Roxy and run. 1:27:06.439 --> 1:27:10.720 He's like, yodd, you go start the show, motherfucker you 1:27:12.439 --> 1:27:16.679 you've been doing fifty put my out there. I'm gonna 1:27:16.720 --> 1:27:19.080 come out, you start sucking seas. I'm gonna come out 1:27:19.120 --> 1:27:20.280 for my part and I'm going back. 1:27:20.160 --> 1:27:22.280 To the stage. But he's like, nah, dude, you gotta 1:27:22.360 --> 1:27:24.400 do you know, you gotta do it. So we arguing 1:27:24.520 --> 1:27:27.200 on the side of the stage and I'm not knowing, 1:27:27.280 --> 1:27:29.840 like the stage is right there, so you go, you 1:27:30.000 --> 1:27:32.040 do it, you do it. As as he's coming at me, 1:27:32.120 --> 1:27:35.080 I'm walking backwards, so like this is you go down 1:27:35.200 --> 1:27:35.679 the stage. 1:27:35.960 --> 1:27:36.559 I walk up. 1:27:36.880 --> 1:27:42.200 When the people see me, I'm like, oh shit, what 1:27:42.439 --> 1:27:46.000 the fuck? So it kicked in to me. 1:27:46.400 --> 1:27:48.200 It was like, yo, just tell them who you are, 1:27:48.640 --> 1:27:51.120 like they do on the tapes. So I just turned 1:27:51.160 --> 1:27:54.960 to the crowd and I remember certain introductions. 1:27:55.000 --> 1:27:57.800 There was an introduction of this crew called the sure 1:27:57.920 --> 1:28:00.479 Shot Crew, but they used to do it with He 1:28:00.600 --> 1:28:03.559 used to go the sure Shot Crew crew crew starring 1:28:03.720 --> 1:28:08.240 DJ Cool, Cuts, Cuts Cool, c C, Sugar Bear Bear 1:28:08.479 --> 1:28:11.280 and the Three m Seeds That'll rock you on down 1:28:11.439 --> 1:28:14.599 down down to your knees. And they took a patche 1:28:14.680 --> 1:28:18.439 my Man Bill Blast Boom back, Sean c Voom back 1:28:18.880 --> 1:28:23.679 Raheem Voo back New York voom ah voom you vom 1:28:24.000 --> 1:28:26.080 Ready for voog vogal vocal vote look and then theyre 1:28:26.080 --> 1:28:26.799 going to the routine. 1:28:27.120 --> 1:28:29.880 So I was like that shit D one two three 1:28:30.840 --> 1:28:34.000 in the place to be as it is playing the Sea, 1:28:34.640 --> 1:28:38.240 and I pointed backstage he is DJ running and I 1:28:38.400 --> 1:28:41.400 am DMC and then oh shit, and then J I 1:28:41.479 --> 1:28:42.719 love J and provision. 1:28:42.840 --> 1:28:45.439 He just he's oh, I got it. He takes big 1:28:45.520 --> 1:28:48.519 B and sou's going voom fat boom boom boom fah. 1:28:48.800 --> 1:28:52.439 So he is DJ Running. I am DMC boom for 1:28:53.040 --> 1:28:56.519 Funky Fresh for nineteen eighty three. I'm suiting now DJ 1:28:57.040 --> 1:28:59.920 jam Master Jay inside the place with all of base 1:29:00.080 --> 1:29:02.760 see Lee's without a trade, and I'm telling the whole 1:29:02.840 --> 1:29:04.599 rocks he does. And we came here tonight to get 1:29:04.680 --> 1:29:05.360 on your case. 1:29:05.400 --> 1:29:08.360 And we the motherfucker from Queens, a whole nuther level 1:29:08.400 --> 1:29:12.400 ship and we are and I remembered Cold crushing, mother 1:29:12.680 --> 1:29:16.200 fucking tough ast far and we are. We had sucking 1:29:16.320 --> 1:29:20.439 seas was Crush Groove one, and then we did a 1:29:20.520 --> 1:29:23.840 song on the second album, Crushgroof two, and then we 1:29:23.880 --> 1:29:26.360 did the Tim Crush Group. But I remembered Cold Crash 1:29:26.520 --> 1:29:28.920 and we are the crush grooving. 1:29:29.120 --> 1:29:33.760 Body moving record making and record breaking and it goes 1:29:33.800 --> 1:29:36.000 a little something like this run came out. It goes 1:29:36.080 --> 1:29:37.160 to one, two. 1:29:37.600 --> 1:29:43.040 Three and here we boom, here we go. Biggie probably 1:29:43.160 --> 1:29:44.720 was there at night because he got a rhyme with 1:29:45.120 --> 1:29:47.920 I was snatching change, I was rubbing, I was. 1:29:49.600 --> 1:29:50.200 You go yeah. 1:29:51.000 --> 1:29:53.360 So all of that ship was connected, but it was 1:29:53.600 --> 1:29:57.840 just me being prophetic and not knowing it. 1:29:57.920 --> 1:30:00.200 If you listen to the jam Master J record, after 1:30:00.240 --> 1:30:03.839 I said Jay, your name's your message J, and I'm I'm, I'm. 1:30:03.720 --> 1:30:05.400 I guess I was like the cast of the group. 1:30:05.720 --> 1:30:07.760 I'm gonna write a whole song about Jay to let 1:30:07.840 --> 1:30:09.880 people know who he is. So we did kick off 1:30:09.960 --> 1:30:12.200 your Shoes, Jump on the job. Listen to the jam 1:30:12.320 --> 1:30:15.040 Mess that's the rocky rock. His name is Jay and 1:30:15.160 --> 1:30:17.200 he's on his way to be the best DJ J 1:30:17.439 --> 1:30:20.599 a wild. So we made that record so that while 1:30:20.640 --> 1:30:24.639 we're opening for Parliament Funkadelic, we could tell the audience 1:30:24.840 --> 1:30:26.040 who the DJ guy is. 1:30:26.479 --> 1:30:30.559 But there's a rhyme in there. And my therapist told 1:30:30.600 --> 1:30:33.639 me about this too, Mom, there's a rhyme in there. 1:30:34.160 --> 1:30:37.240 Because even around that time the whole Curtis Blow, when 1:30:37.280 --> 1:30:39.560 we was coming up, we was getting so much success 1:30:40.160 --> 1:30:43.160 that number one, motherfuckers thought we were selling out. 1:30:44.040 --> 1:30:46.000 And number two if it thought you were selling out, 1:30:46.120 --> 1:30:47.880 they thought we were selling out because we you know, 1:30:48.000 --> 1:30:48.599 it's MTV. 1:30:49.720 --> 1:30:52.800 Whenever you reach a certain amount of success, everybody hating 1:30:52.840 --> 1:30:54.080 no hammer Hamma. 1:30:53.800 --> 1:30:57.680 Should fucking get should have got celebrated during the He 1:30:57.840 --> 1:31:00.360 was the big dolls. He had the endorsements before all 1:31:00.520 --> 1:31:05.240 and motherfucker's good deals and they don't even care. Motherfuckers 1:31:05.280 --> 1:31:06.800 don't care about the culture, but they their deals. 1:31:07.200 --> 1:31:09.519 But there's a rhyme I say, where lives can be 1:31:09.760 --> 1:31:12.240 never singing the Blues. We got to tell y'all all 1:31:12.640 --> 1:31:14.680 the good news. The good news is that. 1:31:14.760 --> 1:31:17.719 There is a crew. And I had wrote that rhyme 1:31:18.280 --> 1:31:19.800 when Joe put me in the group, but it was 1:31:19.880 --> 1:31:22.560 just pretend to make believe because I was sending in 1:31:22.600 --> 1:31:25.880 my basement one day and I said, what would I 1:31:25.960 --> 1:31:28.559 do if I had to battle by myself the Furies 1:31:28.720 --> 1:31:30.960 five Cluhit or in Treacherous three. 1:31:31.479 --> 1:31:33.840 So I wanted to be prepared where lives can be 1:31:34.000 --> 1:31:36.600 never singing the Blues got to tell y'all all the 1:31:36.800 --> 1:31:40.200 world all your fucking credits and say the good news, 1:31:40.320 --> 1:31:43.040 The good news is that there is a crew not five, 1:31:43.240 --> 1:31:46.360 not four, not three, just two two MC's who are 1:31:46.479 --> 1:31:49.840 claiming of fame and all other things won't be the 1:31:50.040 --> 1:31:52.880 same because it's about time for a brand new group 1:31:53.200 --> 1:31:54.920 run DMC to put you up on the. 1:31:54.920 --> 1:31:58.879 School you went out, I said, the battle rock. Goddamn. 1:31:58.960 --> 1:32:03.400 It's when I said that the industry started changing. It 1:32:03.560 --> 1:32:06.160 opened the door for l It opened the door for pe, 1:32:06.320 --> 1:32:08.200 It opened the door for all of us. 1:32:08.600 --> 1:32:10.920 When we got inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall 1:32:10.960 --> 1:32:15.040 of Fame in nine, they called me over DMC, I 1:32:15.120 --> 1:32:17.200 gotta tell you something, you guys was prophetic. What do 1:32:17.280 --> 1:32:17.559 you mean? 1:32:18.280 --> 1:32:20.800 In nineteen eighty five they told me, y'all made a 1:32:20.880 --> 1:32:23.920 record called the King of Rock. We had the balls 1:32:24.000 --> 1:32:26.160 and gus the screen that we were the King of Rock. 1:32:27.560 --> 1:32:30.519 A video with Larry Budd Melman from the David Letterman 1:32:30.600 --> 1:32:33.920 Show denying us entry into the Rock and Roll Hall 1:32:33.920 --> 1:32:36.240 of Fame. You guys can't come in here. This is 1:32:36.280 --> 1:32:38.400 a rock and roll museum. And then we screened we 1:32:38.520 --> 1:32:41.599 go in Trassey Museum. They hit me with this, don't 1:32:41.640 --> 1:32:43.960 you know that the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame 1:32:44.000 --> 1:32:48.360 didn't exist in eighty five? It didn't start till eighty six. 1:32:49.080 --> 1:32:55.280 Shit, y'all made that in eighty five. Holy shit, no instance, 1:32:55.360 --> 1:32:56.680 at least the fifties. 1:32:56.760 --> 1:32:57.439 There's a rocker. 1:32:57.840 --> 1:33:04.639 It didn't start tell eighty six. How could the whole 1:33:04.840 --> 1:33:11.120 video it didn't start till eighty six. Lookrect the profits 1:33:11.520 --> 1:33:17.439 the fucking exactly, it's crazy so all in all, but 1:33:17.800 --> 1:33:21.200 I say all this because is even when hip hop 1:33:21.439 --> 1:33:26.160 changed and became the music industry and said, the thing 1:33:26.240 --> 1:33:29.400 that kept running Me running Jay did was nobody could 1:33:29.439 --> 1:33:31.200 outdo us on the show. Right. 1:33:32.200 --> 1:33:34.479 We opened for Big, we opened for Park, We opened 1:33:34.520 --> 1:33:37.040 for parking Big, and it was crazy about them. They 1:33:37.120 --> 1:33:40.559 didn't know no better pop. There's no way I'm going 1:33:40.680 --> 1:33:44.400 on after run DMC. And this was POC and is 1:33:44.560 --> 1:33:45.280 fucking prime. 1:33:48.080 --> 1:33:50.759 Here's the beautiful thing about it. The promoter is losing 1:33:50.840 --> 1:33:53.960 it because if we go, if POC goes on before us, 1:33:54.080 --> 1:33:57.559 paks not knowing, half the crowd gonna leave because all 1:33:57.640 --> 1:34:00.840 the half that crowds did because of him know my music. 1:34:01.040 --> 1:34:03.080 I heard of us, so me running. They have to 1:34:03.080 --> 1:34:03.640 go in the room and. 1:34:03.680 --> 1:34:06.200 Said Poc, we're very flat at and stuff like that, 1:34:06.640 --> 1:34:08.679 but we have to tell Park, this is your audience 1:34:09.520 --> 1:34:11.200 see those people. We have to tell Park no, we 1:34:11.520 --> 1:34:14.360 we're happy, POC. You know we have an arsenal, but 1:34:14.560 --> 1:34:18.240 those people are here for you, and he tells the promoter. 1:34:18.120 --> 1:34:20.519 All right, fuck that ship. The only reason I'm going 1:34:20.600 --> 1:34:22.840 on is after run DMC is because they told me 1:34:22.920 --> 1:34:24.760 to and he went out there and been popped. We 1:34:24.840 --> 1:34:29.040 open for Big a couple of so Daddy would call us, Biggie. 1:34:29.200 --> 1:34:31.639 We want Joe to open for the bad Boy Reunion. 1:34:31.720 --> 1:34:34.479 This is when all the motherfuckers was together, Biggie sitting there. 1:34:34.920 --> 1:34:39.080 Ain't no way I'm going on after running MC. You 1:34:39.240 --> 1:34:41.760 get my ass kicked, y'all. Mothers got Peter Piper and 1:34:41.840 --> 1:34:44.840 beat the big big yes, oh big, yes you know that. 1:34:45.439 --> 1:34:46.840 But these people are hit you. 1:34:47.600 --> 1:34:49.760 So the reason why I say that it's not about us, 1:34:49.840 --> 1:34:53.680 It's about that thing that they know is untouchable. Like 1:34:54.000 --> 1:34:56.920 this hip hop shit is at old school. Isn't old 1:34:57.040 --> 1:35:00.120 or used to be. It's eternal. Right. Every time we 1:35:00.160 --> 1:35:03.639 would show up, even in the new era, motherfuckers would 1:35:03.640 --> 1:35:07.080 be like, oh shit, Pete Rock saved us. What's crazy 1:35:07.080 --> 1:35:09.080 about life? Is this The very things that you do 1:35:09.439 --> 1:35:13.320 down with people, The very things that you do for 1:35:13.640 --> 1:35:18.720 people with people, whether good or bad, will happen to you. 1:35:19.280 --> 1:35:22.400 So what did people say, run DMC did with Aerosmith, 1:35:22.560 --> 1:35:25.599 We brought him back. We did walked his way over 1:35:25.640 --> 1:35:27.240 with Aerosmith, brought him back. 1:35:28.240 --> 1:35:31.559 Going into the nineties, everybody that had said Park Big, 1:35:31.960 --> 1:35:33.960 Naughty by Nature list and that we opened the door, 1:35:34.200 --> 1:35:36.920 it was their show. But everywhere we went they were 1:35:36.960 --> 1:35:40.639 still worshiping us. And it's because you allen. We wasn't 1:35:40.720 --> 1:35:43.160 participating as much. We wasn't on the radio, wasn't on 1:35:43.240 --> 1:35:45.840 a charte and have a video. Pete rock comes along 1:35:45.920 --> 1:35:48.320 for the down with the King Red record, I Got 1:35:48.400 --> 1:35:50.920 your home, Come over my house. We go out to 1:35:51.080 --> 1:35:54.080 Mount Vernon to Pete Rock's house. We go down in 1:35:54.160 --> 1:35:56.280 the basement and this is Pete Rocky goes over to 1:35:56.400 --> 1:36:00.200 the NPC. It's the button that music comes on. It's 1:36:00.240 --> 1:36:04.600 the nineties now got all of the Coogi rap. Motherfucker's 1:36:04.680 --> 1:36:08.320 killed y'all. Motherfucker like the dope shit going on. But 1:36:08.400 --> 1:36:10.640 we still run the MC. But we're still eighties and 1:36:11.000 --> 1:36:14.240 find it. We're still working too, because we're doing a 1:36:14.280 --> 1:36:16.600 lot of the white rock shows. We ain't doing the 1:36:16.720 --> 1:36:19.760 New Ship. We're doing Jay's there hanging, but we don't 1:36:19.760 --> 1:36:21.920 have a song for that, so we go on the basement. 1:36:21.960 --> 1:36:24.559 He hit Pete Rock hit in PC and he hates 1:36:24.560 --> 1:36:27.120 to want to say that, well, running him. We see 1:36:27.160 --> 1:36:29.760 that for Aerosmith. Pete Rock did for us. He brought 1:36:29.840 --> 1:36:31.479 us back. Wow, he's running. 1:36:31.600 --> 1:36:35.720 Pete Rock saved our careers. Heat Rock. 1:36:36.640 --> 1:36:38.760 He hit the button that music came on. He goes 1:36:38.800 --> 1:36:42.240 over to the turntables, says he's a DJ. He takes 1:36:42.320 --> 1:36:47.479 runs house. The part of my verse will go. Name 1:36:47.600 --> 1:36:50.519 is mc all, Tom Gray Bust the most rhymes, Robers 1:36:50.560 --> 1:36:53.120 New York State Reporters, Clark produces y'all. 1:36:53.320 --> 1:36:55.439 They want to be done with the King and want 1:36:55.520 --> 1:36:57.720 that man for the he stays safe. Sat down with 1:36:57.880 --> 1:36:59.960 the King over that me. I posted that this morning 1:37:00.040 --> 1:37:04.519 and Sony Music made me take it down? Was the 1:37:04.600 --> 1:37:09.000 verse that just house? First they made you take it down? 1:37:09.160 --> 1:37:14.639 Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. I was heated. They so go ahead, bad, 1:37:15.040 --> 1:37:18.000 We make down with the King, great record man. Then 1:37:18.040 --> 1:37:22.360 we make the video. Go look at the video. Right. 1:37:23.800 --> 1:37:24.800 We didn't invite his ass. 1:37:26.439 --> 1:37:29.840 He heard everybody wanted to be a part of it 1:37:31.320 --> 1:37:33.280 because let me, you did you doubt that that was 1:37:33.320 --> 1:37:35.160 something like that would happen where everybody wants to me. 1:37:35.640 --> 1:37:37.040 Were you guys not of us in the thought? 1:37:37.120 --> 1:37:41.759 But when it came, it's so humbling, right un whoever 1:37:41.920 --> 1:37:45.400 was in town came show love. But I'm gonna let 1:37:45.439 --> 1:37:47.559 you finish. But let me just stop me for one second, 1:37:47.600 --> 1:37:50.559 because you know all day you've been you've been saying 1:37:50.600 --> 1:37:52.960 how much stan Lee means to you and how much 1:37:53.080 --> 1:37:56.160 his superhero. Well, our show is about giving people they flowers, 1:37:56.320 --> 1:37:58.240 and I wanted to give you your flowers face to face, 1:37:58.360 --> 1:38:01.240 man man and tell you you you you you my hero. 1:38:01.600 --> 1:38:03.240 You know what I'm saying. You are heroes. You know 1:38:03.240 --> 1:38:05.000 what I'm saying. We wanted to give you your flowers 1:38:05.200 --> 1:38:12.760 like man, like you know we've been doing this. We've 1:38:12.760 --> 1:38:14.320 been doing this for for seven years. 1:38:14.400 --> 1:38:15.360 I mean, he's day one. 1:38:15.520 --> 1:38:18.680 Yeah, let me just tell you something. Let me just 1:38:18.720 --> 1:38:20.719 say something. When I knew I had you booked yesterday, 1:38:20.760 --> 1:38:23.000 I couldn't even sleep, like it was I felt like 1:38:23.080 --> 1:38:25.200 it was Christmas. Like I felt like today was Christmas. 1:38:25.240 --> 1:38:27.680 Like I couldn't sleep. I woke up. I wanted to 1:38:27.760 --> 1:38:30.360 make sure I did everything. I worked out, I made 1:38:30.400 --> 1:38:32.240 sure I didn't drink, I made sure, Like I just 1:38:32.320 --> 1:38:36.000 wanted to be everything, because that's what like I said 1:38:36.040 --> 1:38:37.920 it in the intro and I said, if it wasn't 1:38:37.960 --> 1:38:40.799 for a run DMC, they probably wouldn't be a Compona noriegga, 1:38:40.840 --> 1:38:42.479 which means it wouldn't be a nory, which means it 1:38:42.760 --> 1:38:44.800 might not be a drink champion, and so on and 1:38:44.880 --> 1:38:47.320 so forth with. You know the legacy that you guys 1:38:47.479 --> 1:38:49.320 laid down, and I want you to know face to 1:38:49.400 --> 1:38:51.760 face man, the man is that it takes nothing away 1:38:51.800 --> 1:38:53.240 from me to tell you how great you are. You 1:38:53.360 --> 1:38:57.080 guys are great. You guys are guys, are legends, you 1:38:57.120 --> 1:38:59.880 guys are icons, And I just want to continue to 1:39:00.000 --> 1:39:01.760 supported this is what this show is about. You know, 1:39:02.080 --> 1:39:04.320 so many people, so many people like they get ten 1:39:04.400 --> 1:39:06.640 years in this game, or they get twelve years or 1:39:06.640 --> 1:39:08.680 twenty years in this game, and they say that they 1:39:09.160 --> 1:39:10.880 washed up. You know that's not that doesn't this is 1:39:10.960 --> 1:39:13.519 no other genre of music, knowing the genre of music 1:39:13.600 --> 1:39:16.160 they says that. And you know, to celebrate Hip Hop 1:39:16.200 --> 1:39:18.080 fifty and the know that you guys got damned there 1:39:18.200 --> 1:39:19.519 forty of the. 1:39:19.560 --> 1:39:23.360 Fifty years of the goddamn fifty crazy goddamn Let's make 1:39:23.439 --> 1:39:30.080 some goddamn I mean yeah, I mean the same way y'all. 1:39:30.120 --> 1:39:32.320 For everybody said that, yo, you would. That's how it 1:39:32.400 --> 1:39:33.439 started comic books. 1:39:33.439 --> 1:39:36.160 I don't know if you're no Riggs Morales of course, 1:39:37.360 --> 1:39:42.320 Dominicant partner part of this. Yeah, Riggs is my partner's amazing, 1:39:42.360 --> 1:39:45.360 So you're Dominicant. I just. 1:39:47.479 --> 1:39:50.120 Came about. I went to Riggs for some music stuff 1:39:50.160 --> 1:39:51.559 and when I sat down with Riggs, he was. 1:39:51.600 --> 1:39:54.680 Like this, and I was like, hey, Rix, he was 1:39:55.760 --> 1:39:58.720 and he used these words. He said, you DMC, you 1:39:58.840 --> 1:40:01.120 are my superhero. And he asked me what was it 1:40:01.240 --> 1:40:02.760 like when he was a kid, and I was like, well, 1:40:02.800 --> 1:40:05.920 I used to just reclare, recollect into a comic book. 1:40:06.000 --> 1:40:08.639 So we sat there. We didn't talk about hip hop 1:40:08.720 --> 1:40:10.479 or music. He said it for three hours and talked 1:40:10.479 --> 1:40:13.080 about comic book. After he heard me say all this 1:40:13.160 --> 1:40:14.800 stuff that I was doing, he said, d you should 1:40:14.880 --> 1:40:17.840 do a comic book. And I said, nope, don't get no, 1:40:18.160 --> 1:40:20.560 don't put me in that hell no, I know what 1:40:20.600 --> 1:40:22.439 you're trying to do. And he was like what, I 1:40:22.520 --> 1:40:25.360 didn't want to do a comic book and make the 1:40:25.439 --> 1:40:28.680 comic book culture thing. Oh, just because this motherfucker had 1:40:28.720 --> 1:40:31.280 a couple of hit records. Do anything because there's a 1:40:31.520 --> 1:40:33.280 that's how much you cared about it, right, But then 1:40:33.400 --> 1:40:36.120 Rick said, no, d us comic books for for hip 1:40:36.160 --> 1:40:38.559 hop and by you being hip hop, this will work. 1:40:38.680 --> 1:40:41.519 So Rigg is the guy that made the Darryl Man. 1:40:41.600 --> 1:40:44.639 He said, you can't use Marvel. I was pissed off. 1:40:46.000 --> 1:40:47.519 I want to use it. I've got to be Marble. 1:40:48.040 --> 1:40:50.800 Can't use DC, can't use Image, can't use value, and 1:40:50.920 --> 1:40:53.519 can't use milestone. What are you gonna call your comic 1:40:53.600 --> 1:40:54.200 book company? 1:40:54.360 --> 1:40:56.519 Now? This is a beauty of hip hop shit. I 1:40:56.560 --> 1:41:00.320 don't know DMN C d's for doing it all of 1:41:00.400 --> 1:41:02.960 the time. MS for the ROMs that all minds cease 1:41:03.000 --> 1:41:04.800 for cool cool ass can be run used to say, 1:41:04.800 --> 1:41:07.280 while you're wear those glasses, oh I can see what 1:41:07.400 --> 1:41:09.519 goodness day? Please for doing it all of the time. 1:41:09.720 --> 1:41:11.800 MS for the ROMs that on minds cease for cool 1:41:11.840 --> 1:41:13.960 cool ass can be why do I wear contacts? 1:41:14.760 --> 1:41:17.720 So you can see what do they start with? So 1:41:18.439 --> 1:41:20.639 it's it's relevant. But then I'll go, you know what, Riggs, 1:41:20.920 --> 1:41:22.640 I'm gonna just be making comic books. And you know 1:41:22.960 --> 1:41:25.719 how Riggs is I'm gonna just call them my company. 1:41:26.080 --> 1:41:32.960 Daryl Makes Comics show. We're gonna do a gitar because 1:41:33.040 --> 1:41:40.560 thank you Riggs legend. It's part of shady Wreckage Sorcerers. 1:41:40.960 --> 1:41:41.240 It was. 1:41:43.080 --> 1:41:46.600 That you understand inspirations are two way street. Why are 1:41:46.640 --> 1:41:50.639 you telling me that inspires me to still keep going? 1:41:51.080 --> 1:41:52.960 Let me tell you how much of a legend you 1:41:53.080 --> 1:41:58.679 guys are. Halloween had just passed, right, and then my wife, 1:41:58.960 --> 1:42:02.880 my wife comes in the house and she buys my 1:42:03.000 --> 1:42:06.439 son a fake run DMC outfit, and I was like, 1:42:06.479 --> 1:42:09.200 you gotta get that out of my house. I had 1:42:09.280 --> 1:42:11.840 two stripes. I was like, you cannot do that to 1:42:12.000 --> 1:42:14.920 my son. But my wife, not knowing, she's just thinking 1:42:15.040 --> 1:42:18.040 like she's thinking like they're paying homage, but I'm saying 1:42:18.320 --> 1:42:21.000 they're paying the wrong homage. Like if you're gonna do, 1:42:21.800 --> 1:42:25.040 you gotta go get this, Yes, yeah, I can't let 1:42:25.520 --> 1:42:27.439 go out like that. I was just like, yo, But 1:42:27.560 --> 1:42:30.599 that's how rariconic it is. People dress up like yeah 1:42:30.640 --> 1:42:34.720 off for a Halloween. That's crazy crazy. Did you ever 1:42:34.760 --> 1:42:38.880 see the fake one DMC constant? Yes, yeah, you gotta 1:42:38.920 --> 1:42:39.760 se what we do. 1:42:40.880 --> 1:42:44.639 Just so we went and went to court and all 1:42:45.520 --> 1:42:47.040 they can sell it because all I gotta do is 1:42:47.160 --> 1:42:53.560 change one little thing. Wow bullshit, you know, and the 1:42:53.640 --> 1:42:56.720 world knows where it's coming from, right, like to check 1:42:56.880 --> 1:42:59.000 just the one little thing, right, Why do you think 1:42:59.080 --> 1:43:00.880 some of these cars look like the Benzes and the 1:43:00.920 --> 1:43:06.160 Meschas thing we tried to see. You're crazy, it's great, 1:43:06.200 --> 1:43:09.280 But what we should do is put an official run DMC. 1:43:09.880 --> 1:43:15.480 Yeah. Yeah, that's that's the key. That's because everybody will 1:43:15.520 --> 1:43:16.439 go by that anyway. 1:43:16.479 --> 1:43:18.600 I mean all I get, I get two things in 1:43:18.640 --> 1:43:22.679 the holiday season Christmas. I can't go to them all 1:43:23.040 --> 1:43:26.760 because Muslims, Jewish people, Chinese people, they screaming the rhyme 1:43:26.920 --> 1:43:33.320 Christmas E, Christmas, Halloween, Justice Halloween. My text message, my 1:43:33.560 --> 1:43:37.040 emails and everybody that sees me gets this. 1:43:37.280 --> 1:43:39.679 I'm in seven to eleven, I'm in the super Guests. 1:43:39.680 --> 1:43:46.000 All be tonight, you know, and then my text. But 1:43:46.120 --> 1:43:47.120 here's a beautiful thing. 1:43:47.800 --> 1:43:51.439 The kids going to school, right, the parents dressed them 1:43:51.520 --> 1:43:54.559 up over the last thirty six years since that record. 1:43:54.800 --> 1:43:58.000 But now kids that like it's tricky. 1:43:57.680 --> 1:44:01.439 Because it's hot on TikTok, go to discover and see 1:44:01.520 --> 1:44:03.920 who are the guys behind this record that they don't 1:44:04.280 --> 1:44:05.840 they don't know me like you let us know the 1:44:05.920 --> 1:44:08.400 song they kids in now saying mom, may I want 1:44:08.400 --> 1:44:09.479 to dress up like run DMC. 1:44:10.479 --> 1:44:13.599 That's the beautiful thing connecting with that next g right, 1:44:13.720 --> 1:44:15.720 you know what's even more beautiful is that you guys 1:44:15.760 --> 1:44:20.080 are timeless like that. That that's what's even more beautiful. 1:44:20.120 --> 1:44:23.519 It's just your timeless. Like I was speaking speaking the 1:44:25.000 --> 1:44:27.400 trust from Naughty by Nature and I was telling him, 1:44:27.439 --> 1:44:30.400 I was like, yo, like, most of the time, if 1:44:30.439 --> 1:44:32.240 I'm in the party and they're not playing at least 1:44:32.280 --> 1:44:34.560 one or two or three Norty by Nature part of 1:44:34.600 --> 1:44:36.439 the party, I don't want to be And if they 1:44:36.439 --> 1:44:39.719 were not playing Bets and they're not playing Run DMC 1:44:39.800 --> 1:44:42.640 at a party, I pretty much probably start don't like 1:44:42.680 --> 1:44:48.759 the DJ. We at that fucking fucking Rolling Stone level. 1:44:49.520 --> 1:44:51.960 So let me ask you, Right, I did an interview 1:44:52.040 --> 1:44:55.920 with my friend Brian earlier and he had asked me 1:44:56.000 --> 1:44:57.679 this question. So I want to ask you this question. 1:44:58.000 --> 1:45:04.040 What was the moment when you felt like you made it? Oh, 1:45:04.160 --> 1:45:06.560 the moment that I felt like I made it was 1:45:09.320 --> 1:45:10.479 it was eighty six. 1:45:11.800 --> 1:45:16.960 Because of walk this way now to us to a 1:45:17.040 --> 1:45:20.960 whole other level. And this is a crazy moment. I'm 1:45:21.000 --> 1:45:28.280 on the Grand Central Parkway traffic. We're no no open road. Okay, Uh, 1:45:28.520 --> 1:45:32.080 the actually were Parsons Boulevard at something. I'm triving right there, 1:45:33.360 --> 1:45:39.320 and I'm driving and not knowing because because we used 1:45:39.360 --> 1:45:42.599 to I used to walk around as DMC because that's 1:45:42.640 --> 1:45:43.759 how everybody else was dressing. 1:45:43.840 --> 1:45:45.960 So I fit in and unless you knew it was 1:45:46.040 --> 1:45:46.559 run DMC. 1:45:47.240 --> 1:45:48.880 My man, Bud buddy, we used to stand in the 1:45:48.960 --> 1:45:52.719 corner hollis and but my boy would hit me CD. 1:45:53.240 --> 1:45:55.960 That's the hundredth time that car came around the block. 1:45:56.439 --> 1:45:58.759 And all the doing is looking and can't believe running 1:45:58.840 --> 1:46:02.120 J and Jay because run with the family man and 1:46:02.240 --> 1:46:04.439 Jay was still in the street on the corner. 1:46:04.600 --> 1:46:05.439 So here's the time. 1:46:05.520 --> 1:46:09.960 I'm driving on the Grand Central Parkway in my nineteen 1:46:09.960 --> 1:46:11.880 eighty six Fleetwood Caddy. 1:46:12.200 --> 1:46:17.760 Okay, it was a SOB Tobies in my back black 1:46:17.800 --> 1:46:20.320 Fleetwood with the wolf is in the behind the sea 1:46:20.360 --> 1:46:23.680 hall and I'm driving and I just look over at 1:46:23.720 --> 1:46:28.280 the car next to me and they crash. Oh shit, 1:46:29.400 --> 1:46:30.320 because they're staring at you. 1:46:30.680 --> 1:46:30.880 Yeah. 1:46:31.000 --> 1:46:33.120 I pulled off the holl and said, oh shit, I 1:46:33.200 --> 1:46:39.080 can't walk around like this. They saw de glasses had 1:46:39.200 --> 1:46:42.080 Adida stripes. They didn't see the forty I was holding, 1:46:42.520 --> 1:46:45.720 but I look over and they crashed right, So. 1:46:45.840 --> 1:46:49.720 Then I knew that's the day. I said, Oh, now 1:46:49.840 --> 1:46:52.080 I know what Mick Jacker and Michael Jackson feel like. 1:46:52.640 --> 1:46:53.760 It was nineteen eighty six. 1:46:53.920 --> 1:46:58.280 The game my Adida's first non athletic entity to receive 1:46:58.360 --> 1:47:03.160 a major sport like because I want to, I'm gonna 1:47:03.160 --> 1:47:06.200 cover walk this Way real quick, right, Okay, So the 1:47:06.360 --> 1:47:11.240 rumor has it is Rick. This is Rick Rubin's idea. No, 1:47:11.920 --> 1:47:15.360 oh wow. Now Rick is one of the greatest producer, 1:47:15.520 --> 1:47:16.679 but everybody will tell. 1:47:16.520 --> 1:47:19.640 You he don't create anything. Okay, he comes in and 1:47:19.760 --> 1:47:22.120 brings the best out of you. But you got let 1:47:22.160 --> 1:47:24.800 me see, he ain't coming. He's not like writing and 1:47:24.920 --> 1:47:27.200 this and that, and I got a song idea. The 1:47:27.320 --> 1:47:30.560 original idea came about like this. We was finishing and 1:47:30.640 --> 1:47:34.559 raising hell album. So Jay goes, Yo, we gotta make 1:47:34.600 --> 1:47:38.759 a beat jam. So we was just gonna sample toys 1:47:38.840 --> 1:47:42.760 an attic YO sample. We didn't know it was walked 1:47:42.800 --> 1:47:45.679 this Way. Me and Rovers said, Yo, get the album 1:47:45.760 --> 1:47:49.479 with the toys on the cover and loop number four 1:47:50.200 --> 1:47:51.639 because the DJs. 1:47:51.680 --> 1:47:53.560 We was scratched the title of the records house, so 1:47:53.640 --> 1:47:55.799 the rival DJs, we just knew we want. 1:47:55.640 --> 1:48:02.320 To step debt Step debt, and I remember that shit 1:48:02.400 --> 1:48:06.080 down there, bet. So it's gonna be three minutes and 1:48:06.160 --> 1:48:09.519 thirty seconds of a loop of that, because if y'all understand, 1:48:09.600 --> 1:48:11.200 Walk this Way, like I said, it was in the 1:48:11.200 --> 1:48:13.960 first rock record we had, Rock Box. It wasn't the 1:48:14.000 --> 1:48:16.280 first rock rapper record at King of Rock, people not 1:48:16.479 --> 1:48:18.680 Raising Hell. We had a song called Raising Hell and 1:48:19.320 --> 1:48:22.160 that was us making in us rhyming. So we was 1:48:22.240 --> 1:48:25.800 gonna loop walk this Way, and we was gonna rhyme 1:48:25.800 --> 1:48:28.000 about how good we were. And I still remember my 1:48:28.160 --> 1:48:30.400 rounds to this day. We had the whole rhyme thing done. 1:48:31.000 --> 1:48:33.519 It was gonna come on then, and I was supposed 1:48:33.520 --> 1:48:35.320 to go because we came out in eighty three. 1:48:35.360 --> 1:48:37.680 It's eighty six. Now I'll go, I'm DMC in the 1:48:37.760 --> 1:48:40.200 place to be, been wrapping on a mic since eighty three. 1:48:40.320 --> 1:48:42.880 I'm the greatest MC in history. They will never be 1:48:42.960 --> 1:48:45.000 an MC better than me. And it run was supposed 1:48:45.000 --> 1:48:47.120 to go. I'm DJ Run and I'm the more typical 1:48:47.200 --> 1:48:49.400 run the MC shit. So we had that going on. 1:48:49.600 --> 1:48:51.680 Rick Rubin, who was our producer Jomp, comes in. 1:48:51.720 --> 1:48:56.400 The studio and he says these words, Yo, y'all should 1:48:56.400 --> 1:48:59.120 do walk this way over. So we think it from 1:48:59.160 --> 1:49:02.400 a limited hip perspective. Motherfucker, what you think we're gonna do. 1:49:02.400 --> 1:49:05.160 We're gonna sample this ship. We're gonna rhyme over. He says, no, 1:49:05.760 --> 1:49:08.800 do the record over the way the band originally did it. 1:49:09.920 --> 1:49:13.519 So that was Rick Ruben's beautiful idea. And me and 1:49:13.600 --> 1:49:15.840 Run said no, hell no. 1:49:16.120 --> 1:49:18.960 Book running was funny because he used to always hold 1:49:19.000 --> 1:49:23.560 my books up and go got rhymes, rhymes? Why the 1:49:23.600 --> 1:49:24.920 fuck you want us to sing this? 1:49:25.120 --> 1:49:28.520 And we had never heard the lyrics because the DJ's 1:49:28.600 --> 1:49:31.040 never let it play that far. So Rick tapes the 1:49:31.160 --> 1:49:34.880 vinyl off the record, go in these basement, put the 1:49:34.960 --> 1:49:38.360 record on, take a pen and paper, let the record play, 1:49:38.760 --> 1:49:40.840 and write down the lyrics so y'all can learn them. 1:49:41.760 --> 1:49:44.840 So we drive, We leave grom chun King House of Metal. 1:49:45.080 --> 1:49:47.800 We drive from junk King back to my basement. We 1:49:47.880 --> 1:49:56.640 put the record on ben and they gotta understand anticipation. 1:49:56.840 --> 1:49:59.800 We never heard what was gonna happen then that she said, 1:50:01.680 --> 1:50:05.439 backshop lover, how you know there for Oh hell no, helly, 1:50:05.680 --> 1:50:08.280 we going no fuck that ship. No, we ain't doing 1:50:08.360 --> 1:50:11.240 this this hill billy gibberous this and Russell screaming that 1:50:11.320 --> 1:50:14.600 Joey motherfucking this and that run arguing with this, hell no, 1:50:14.720 --> 1:50:16.719 hell no, we ain't a fucking phone up. 1:50:16.600 --> 1:50:18.760 And I hated to do record at first. Oh my god, 1:50:18.840 --> 1:50:20.479 well what it was. We didn't want to do that. 1:50:20.800 --> 1:50:24.920 We don't do that that shop. But you understand it's 1:50:24.920 --> 1:50:27.240 our first time hearing it. It didn't digest. It was 1:50:27.360 --> 1:50:28.280 just that ship. 1:50:28.360 --> 1:50:33.840 Ain't fucking um um. People seem to think that. The 1:50:34.360 --> 1:50:36.519 people seem to think that the being them ce you 1:50:36.640 --> 1:50:39.200 need a closet full of clothes and ice up jewelry, 1:50:39.600 --> 1:50:43.000 pocket full of dollars, walkers every flavor, stuck up attitude 1:50:43.000 --> 1:50:45.599 and another kind of behavior. I'm sorry to say that's 1:50:45.640 --> 1:50:48.160 how it was before. But people ain't going for that 1:50:48.400 --> 1:50:48.760 no more. 1:50:48.840 --> 1:50:51.080 You gotta give a performance, because by now you should 1:50:51.120 --> 1:50:53.320 know that you're giving a party out a flash and 1:50:53.400 --> 1:50:55.080 show another grand mastercaso. 1:50:55.160 --> 1:51:00.400 That wasn't my I just those industry movers go up 1:51:00.439 --> 1:51:05.280 to Cassie, you know much, so we go, No, we hadn't. 1:51:05.320 --> 1:51:08.200 We didn't let it digest back showed love. However, he 1:51:08.360 --> 1:51:10.920 was doing it. No, no, no, no, no, hell no, 1:51:11.120 --> 1:51:11.439 hell no. 1:51:11.800 --> 1:51:15.240 Joey Smith was rhyming on on that. Let me show 1:51:15.240 --> 1:51:17.759 you what happened. We ain't doing that ship. That's corny. 1:51:17.800 --> 1:51:18.920 We want to fucking rhyme. 1:51:19.040 --> 1:51:22.400 Man. Run was like Jay, motherfucker, you are a king 1:51:22.479 --> 1:51:25.080 of rock, You're a rock box. This is what we do. 1:51:25.640 --> 1:51:27.920 So Jay's trying to convince us and we arguing on 1:51:28.080 --> 1:51:31.320 that message. Yeah, so then Jay goes slow the fuck down. 1:51:32.240 --> 1:51:34.720 Listen he uses these words and this was the game 1:51:34.800 --> 1:51:40.160 to listen to Steven's flow, Baci love, I need to come. 1:51:41.320 --> 1:51:44.439 Now we're hearing it. We wasn't before. Remember it was gibberish, 1:51:45.000 --> 1:51:47.920 but Ja listened to his flow. I understand that language. 1:51:48.479 --> 1:51:51.519 Vaccine lover. Oh shit, we can do this ship. So 1:51:51.680 --> 1:51:54.160 we learn the records. Now this is funny. Y'all can 1:51:54.240 --> 1:51:58.760 go to YouTube and hear this version. We still didn't 1:51:58.760 --> 1:52:01.519 want to do it. So the original demo of Walk 1:52:01.600 --> 1:52:03.000 This Way Run Winning. 1:52:02.760 --> 1:52:06.439 It took the whole first verse back seat love behind 1:52:06.520 --> 1:52:08.679 if to cover, talk to my daddy, say, I ain't 1:52:08.680 --> 1:52:10.439 seen nothing. Did it go you go? Dean? We went 1:52:10.520 --> 1:52:13.240 and just did them lamess version of that shit at all. 1:52:13.600 --> 1:52:16.000 When we tried to leave the studio, Jay was fucking 1:52:16.120 --> 1:52:18.840 standing at the fucking door with his hand like, if 1:52:18.880 --> 1:52:20.640 you don't go back in there and do this run 1:52:20.720 --> 1:52:22.000 demn shit, I'm shoot jumping. 1:52:29.160 --> 1:52:31.720 So we go in there and Jay said, let's flow it. 1:52:31.880 --> 1:52:34.200 He said, don't do it like Steven did it. Do 1:52:34.280 --> 1:52:37.280 it like run DMC would do it. That's another game too. 1:52:38.040 --> 1:52:41.000 Oh we can switch off like we didn't know. So 1:52:41.200 --> 1:52:43.240 that that's the version that's you her. So it was 1:52:43.400 --> 1:52:46.960 Rick Ruben's crown breaking, universal, brilliant idea. 1:52:47.040 --> 1:52:48.040 To do it with. 1:52:48.760 --> 1:52:52.400 To do it over now, his was crazy. It didn't 1:52:52.479 --> 1:52:55.200 in there with Rick. While we were doing that. Rick's 1:52:55.240 --> 1:53:00.760 on the phone calling Boston. My name is Rick. I 1:53:00.920 --> 1:53:03.120 know you know who run demn C is. We want 1:53:03.160 --> 1:53:04.280 to do your record over that? 1:53:04.400 --> 1:53:06.960 Don't want to do it? Hold on? 1:53:07.560 --> 1:53:09.920 This is an arrowsman, just to see the people. Okay, 1:53:09.960 --> 1:53:10.479 who is this? 1:53:10.800 --> 1:53:13.960 Imagine that? Then? This is Rick. My name is Rick Rubin. 1:53:14.040 --> 1:53:15.960 I know you know who run DMC is. Do you 1:53:16.040 --> 1:53:18.880 want to do the record over? Hold on? Some guy 1:53:19.000 --> 1:53:21.640 named Rick Ruben on the phone and they want to 1:53:21.680 --> 1:53:23.640 do it. Yeah, and Steven say, yeah, we know what's run. 1:53:23.760 --> 1:53:25.479 DMC do what records you do? We want to do 1:53:25.560 --> 1:53:29.960 walk this way over. So Rick got them to say, yeah, 1:53:30.000 --> 1:53:32.840 we'll do it with you. He got them to come 1:53:33.280 --> 1:53:35.519 to New York to do the record with us. So 1:53:35.640 --> 1:53:38.040 we walk in the studio one day and they in 1:53:38.200 --> 1:53:41.040 there in the first I'm more of the rock guy, 1:53:41.840 --> 1:53:43.759 you know what I'm saying, But I'm not sure because 1:53:43.760 --> 1:53:44.639 I don't even. 1:53:44.560 --> 1:53:46.160 Know rocks from the radio. I didn't have the hour. 1:53:46.560 --> 1:53:49.640 So when I walk in the studio this day, I 1:53:49.800 --> 1:53:52.559 see Stephen and Joe Perry and the first thing out 1:53:52.600 --> 1:53:55.920 me and Run's mother is oh shit, it's the Rolling Stone. 1:53:59.200 --> 1:53:59.800 So you know that. 1:54:00.040 --> 1:54:02.360 People was like, you know what I'm saying. But that 1:54:02.560 --> 1:54:05.680 was like an icebreaker. Stephen Taller said, no, when out 1:54:05.680 --> 1:54:08.439 there rolling Stones? Where else Swift? Those are the other guys, 1:54:08.479 --> 1:54:10.280 And then we laughed it off. But let me tell 1:54:10.280 --> 1:54:13.760 you so much crazy about Rick's decision. If we would 1:54:13.800 --> 1:54:16.960 have did it over our way, just rhyming over it, 1:54:17.280 --> 1:54:19.400 or he's just been another DMC rock song, would have 1:54:19.439 --> 1:54:21.680 been cool. You probably listened to it on the way 1:54:21.760 --> 1:54:24.120 to work or something. Remember that came out. If we 1:54:24.120 --> 1:54:26.400 would have did it over the way they did it. 1:54:26.800 --> 1:54:30.240 Without them, it would have been oh okay, cool. But 1:54:30.360 --> 1:54:34.680 the only reason it was groundbreaking is because Rick made 1:54:34.720 --> 1:54:39.800 them do it with us on MTV. So now their 1:54:39.920 --> 1:54:43.120 fans is going, what the hell is Aero Smith doing 1:54:43.200 --> 1:54:46.160 with the rap dudes? And our fans is going, what 1:54:46.360 --> 1:54:47.920 the hell is run DMC doing. 1:54:47.840 --> 1:54:49.800 With the rock show? But if you look at that video, 1:54:49.880 --> 1:54:54.280 I've been to South Sudan, wow, to perform the War 1:54:54.400 --> 1:54:58.440 Zone of South Sudan, So Africa, where they had war 1:54:58.720 --> 1:54:59.640 chopping hands. 1:55:00.560 --> 1:55:03.280 The one week I go there, they ain't fighting. Why 1:55:03.760 --> 1:55:06.320 they love Run DMC. They love Naughty by Nature, they 1:55:06.360 --> 1:55:09.040 love pop, they love big. When I left him went 1:55:09.080 --> 1:55:10.200 back to fucking Jesus. 1:55:10.400 --> 1:55:12.120 But I bring that up. 1:55:12.160 --> 1:55:14.560 I've been in South student, I've been a Russian. 1:55:14.320 --> 1:55:16.560 About the publishing. Did you guys get publishing on the 1:55:16.600 --> 1:55:17.920 walk this way? No, it's all. 1:55:17.960 --> 1:55:21.360 That's great question, because great President, it's all. I only 1:55:21.400 --> 1:55:23.400 get money when I show up and performance. All they 1:55:23.480 --> 1:55:24.440 get all that right now? 1:55:25.160 --> 1:55:28.520 The original yes and that, so they was doing that 1:55:28.600 --> 1:55:30.760 back then. All they was a new version that they 1:55:30.840 --> 1:55:31.120 was doing. 1:55:33.480 --> 1:55:35.720 The only thing that's not live on that record is 1:55:35.720 --> 1:55:37.040 the drums he was the drummer ship. 1:55:37.080 --> 1:55:38.880 But they didn't write the Liric. They just read this 1:55:39.000 --> 1:55:43.120 ad in everything. They recreated everything. But people tell me 1:55:43.360 --> 1:55:46.640 from Ukraine, I've been to Ukraine to perform. I've been 1:55:46.680 --> 1:55:49.560 a Russia to perform. Shout out to Ukraine, Russia. Beautiful 1:55:49.600 --> 1:55:51.120 people in all those countries. 1:55:51.120 --> 1:55:54.040 That are walking around wearing Naughty by Nature, public Enemy Church, 1:55:54.120 --> 1:55:56.480 crazy shit. But everywhere I go they say DMC. 1:55:58.040 --> 1:56:00.640 Don't you know when Steven Tyler took that Mike's standing 1:56:00.640 --> 1:56:02.760 in that video and knock down the water which separating 1:56:02.760 --> 1:56:05.400 you on It didn't just happened in the video, happened 1:56:05.440 --> 1:56:07.040 in the world. It did. So that's the power of 1:56:07.120 --> 1:56:09.480 hip hop, that's power of music. It really has an 1:56:09.520 --> 1:56:11.520 effect on that. But it was Rix Brend. 1:56:11.600 --> 1:56:14.400 Now the reason why I say that, if Rick Pitton 1:56:14.720 --> 1:56:17.720 suggested to do that, it wouldn't have been what it is. 1:56:18.120 --> 1:56:20.160 What year did that record come out? Hast eighty six, 1:56:20.360 --> 1:56:23.200 eighty six, nineteen eighty and it gave birth to olymp 1:56:23.240 --> 1:56:28.160 Biscuit Okay, yeah, changed to razel conc. It was the 1:56:28.200 --> 1:56:30.120 first time I remember being in New York City and 1:56:30.160 --> 1:56:33.839 I remember a record, hearing a rap record playing on KTU, 1:56:34.000 --> 1:56:36.600 playing on the pop stations, playing on you know what 1:56:36.640 --> 1:56:39.920 I mean, not just about I crossed over that I 1:56:40.000 --> 1:56:41.880 believe at that time we only had w b LS. 1:56:42.120 --> 1:56:45.520 I don't ninety seven power that was the record that 1:56:46.320 --> 1:56:48.440 not and not that record was so dope that it 1:56:48.560 --> 1:56:52.200 was rod but it allowed all music to cross over. 1:56:52.360 --> 1:56:54.080 That's it wasn't happening until. 1:56:54.200 --> 1:56:57.680 And and did Aerosmith? Did they know and appreciate what 1:56:57.800 --> 1:57:00.760 you what you guys? Actually, yeah, it's funny footage of this. 1:57:00.920 --> 1:57:01.640 You could look it up. 1:57:01.880 --> 1:57:05.080 During the session, Jay shows them what he used to 1:57:05.160 --> 1:57:08.360 do as a DJ. He's cutting up, fucking walked this way, 1:57:08.400 --> 1:57:11.000 and Stephen Tyler on camera goes, when are you gonna 1:57:11.080 --> 1:57:13.360 hear me? And Jay Sop said, oh, that's it, Seve, 1:57:13.560 --> 1:57:16.760 we don't and everybody just claim and then Steve was like, yo, 1:57:16.880 --> 1:57:19.720 teach me the dj. Jay actually taught Steven Tyler the 1:57:19.800 --> 1:57:23.320 DJ ain't with his own record. Yeah, because then you know, 1:57:23.400 --> 1:57:25.080 they knew, they knew, they knew about hip hop, they 1:57:25.160 --> 1:57:27.600 knew about running m C and they were it was 1:57:27.680 --> 1:57:29.960 cool for them because you know, they say, we brought 1:57:30.000 --> 1:57:33.000 them back, But what we did was this was happening 1:57:33.080 --> 1:57:36.120 for them, and my joke is they could have made 1:57:36.160 --> 1:57:38.960 a record with God, Jesus and Moses for real and 1:57:39.040 --> 1:57:39.880 nobody would have cared. 1:57:40.440 --> 1:57:42.360 But they took a chance. You know what, we got 1:57:42.440 --> 1:57:44.360 to lose to do this for Brundy m C didn't 1:57:44.520 --> 1:57:46.040 just it changed the world. 1:57:46.240 --> 1:57:49.760 That's always so kids, man, always be open to try 1:57:50.000 --> 1:57:53.080 something new because it might not just change your life, 1:57:53.120 --> 1:57:55.240 will have changed the world. But that's to walk this 1:57:55.320 --> 1:57:55.800 way story. 1:57:55.800 --> 1:57:58.920 Because of Rick Ruper and when Rick was working with us, 1:57:59.000 --> 1:58:01.480 we had all the records I'm Racing Hell done. I'm 1:58:01.480 --> 1:58:04.080 gonna tell you the coolert story about Rick. When he 1:58:04.200 --> 1:58:07.280 was doing Peter Piper. I didn't like my part when 1:58:07.320 --> 1:58:09.160 I come on and get the Piper Brighte repers right, 1:58:10.800 --> 1:58:13.160 but just the part where I break off and I go. 1:58:13.360 --> 1:58:16.000 Jay's like King Mida, since I was told everything that 1:58:16.080 --> 1:58:17.200 he touched turned to go. 1:58:17.480 --> 1:58:19.400 He's the greatest of the great. Get us traight, He's great. 1:58:19.640 --> 1:58:20.880 So I didn't like that. 1:58:21.520 --> 1:58:23.480 After we sat back and listened to you know, we 1:58:23.520 --> 1:58:26.080 had hit It run, I didn't like the way that 1:58:26.360 --> 1:58:29.040 sounded on a Racing Hell album. I was like, Rick, 1:58:29.080 --> 1:58:30.480 I gotta do it over this and over and he's 1:58:30.520 --> 1:58:32.600 telling me as a producer, no, leave it, leave it, 1:58:32.680 --> 1:58:35.760 And I couldn't see what he was was. 1:58:35.840 --> 1:58:37.600 I couldn't see or hear what he was saying. So 1:58:37.680 --> 1:58:39.240 I'm like, Rick, I got to do this over. So 1:58:39.440 --> 1:58:44.160 speaking of cocaine, cod tonguing house, some metal, it's like 1:58:44.320 --> 1:58:46.400 break thirty in the morning, turn House Metals. That's the 1:58:46.400 --> 1:58:47.440 one who was just in China. 1:58:47.200 --> 1:58:53.120 Town, right, yeah, on Center Street. So Rick goes, Rick, God, 1:58:53.160 --> 1:58:58.400 it's three thirty in the morning. Forties coke gosh, hell, 1:58:58.480 --> 1:59:03.720 that was the first Red Bull had. Yeah, wake up 1:59:03.760 --> 1:59:05.600 in the money then do it? Give me a forty? 1:59:07.520 --> 1:59:09.880 So Rick goes, all right, do you want to change it? 1:59:10.040 --> 1:59:13.360 Show up at eleven o'clock tomorrow morning? All right. 1:59:14.800 --> 1:59:16.320 So I probably didn't go to sleep. I think I 1:59:16.520 --> 1:59:18.840 went to the World or some shit like that, to 1:59:18.960 --> 1:59:20.520 the club where you come out in this morning. 1:59:20.600 --> 1:59:21.040 It's right. 1:59:21.360 --> 1:59:24.520 So I come back space all right, and I'm telling Rick, I. 1:59:24.600 --> 1:59:27.360 Gotta be right. We're running. Say it's got to be right. 1:59:27.480 --> 1:59:29.360 So the piper pepper, I don't like to wear a 1:59:29.480 --> 1:59:31.600 sound like this, So he says, okay, motherfucker going there 1:59:31.720 --> 1:59:33.760 and later verse So I go in there. 1:59:33.840 --> 1:59:38.040 Jays like King miny since I was told like yeah, like, 1:59:39.480 --> 1:59:41.560 so I come again and this is Rick's the coolest 1:59:41.600 --> 1:59:43.640 for this episode was back here. He says, I'm gonna 1:59:43.720 --> 1:59:46.720 play what you did just now. He plays it. 1:59:47.320 --> 1:59:50.040 Now, I'm gonna play what you did last night and 1:59:50.160 --> 1:59:52.360 he plays at Jay's night, King Minus is ours. So 1:59:53.280 --> 1:59:55.440 he says, which one is better? And I go, oh, 1:59:55.720 --> 1:59:58.040 the one I did last night, And he says this. 1:59:58.720 --> 2:00:00.200 You don't have to work hard to be you, and 2:00:00.240 --> 2:00:02.720 you don't have to impress to be anybody. He said, 2:00:02.800 --> 2:00:04.920 you're so dope on the mic and a suit now 2:00:05.200 --> 2:00:05.920 that you are. 2:00:05.880 --> 2:00:08.760 Showing no effort and you better than half the motherfuckus 2:00:08.840 --> 2:00:12.640 on the microud we get the fuck out in. So 2:00:12.880 --> 2:00:14.520 he was, you know what I'm saying, But what he 2:00:14.680 --> 2:00:17.800 was saying was you didn't need to old Piper Peppers over, 2:00:17.920 --> 2:00:20.000 you know, little bo pee call losses shit. 2:00:20.040 --> 2:00:22.120 He said, nah, you're taking them somewhere else. 2:00:22.440 --> 2:00:25.040 And that's a producer you tell you know how guitar 2:00:25.160 --> 2:00:28.000 players or singers you gotta go side. I'm just a rapper. 2:00:28.040 --> 2:00:30.040 I'm not Freddie Mercury, I'm not a mager. But he 2:00:30.200 --> 2:00:32.200 was like, you take Jay's like King Midas as I 2:00:32.440 --> 2:00:34.400 was told everything that he told, and he said the 2:00:34.520 --> 2:00:35.640 music is open right now. 2:00:35.840 --> 2:00:38.160 He said, watch how hard that should be. So I'm 2:00:38.200 --> 2:00:40.760 thinking you gotta be a lesson for young people. I'm 2:00:40.760 --> 2:00:45.040 thinking you gotta be violent to be hard aggressing, you 2:00:45.080 --> 2:00:47.680 can lay back and be stronger than everyone else. 2:00:48.000 --> 2:00:50.440 So Rick, there was a rick walked this way in 2:00:50.520 --> 2:00:52.280 my Peter Piper rhyme. Thank you, Rick. 2:00:53.160 --> 2:00:54.800 So let me ask you. I always be wanting to 2:00:54.840 --> 2:00:58.040 ask you. Who is Mary Marian? Why she was bugging? 2:01:00.360 --> 2:01:06.280 That's another Rick? Really? Yeah, Rn was taking Mary Mary 2:01:06.440 --> 2:01:10.240 off of Super Disco Breaks. It's a monkey record. It's 2:01:10.320 --> 2:01:15.760 the monkeys Marry Mary? Where are you going to marry? 2:01:20.560 --> 2:01:23.960 And we come some monkeys on? Which was on Super 2:01:24.040 --> 2:01:28.880 Disco Break Volume three. It's on the break peece a wow. 2:01:29.120 --> 2:01:31.480 So Run was taking that and I can't stop. We 2:01:31.560 --> 2:01:34.080 were trying to think of a routine to make, so 2:01:34.440 --> 2:01:37.760 we sampled it. Rick comes in the studio and he says, 2:01:37.960 --> 2:01:39.680 you know, to the boof, you know you push the button, 2:01:40.240 --> 2:01:43.640 don't say Mary Mary? Where you going to say? Marry Mary? 2:01:43.680 --> 2:01:50.720 Why are you bugging? Okay, Boof, go very very why 2:01:51.960 --> 2:01:56.840 I can't stop? So marry not a real person. No, 2:02:03.480 --> 2:02:04.680 I wait for you to come back for a great 2:02:04.760 --> 2:02:10.080 time of slunt. Oh hold on cool? All right, you 2:02:10.280 --> 2:02:14.600 you talked too much? Is that ever? Shut up? Is 2:02:14.680 --> 2:02:18.000 that about a snitch? No, it's nothing, it's not about 2:02:18.000 --> 2:02:18.600 a snitchka. 2:02:18.880 --> 2:02:24.440 No, it's just it's just it's more of rundium cs, hilariomedy, 2:02:24.560 --> 2:02:25.760 comedic side right. 2:02:25.960 --> 2:02:27.480 It was just a record that we told. We got 2:02:27.560 --> 2:02:30.240 sued for that too and had to pay because we 2:02:30.440 --> 2:02:33.960 never heard the record. That's why these lawsuits are gonna 2:02:33.960 --> 2:02:36.120 be get getting crazy. We never heard the record. 2:02:36.360 --> 2:02:38.960 We didn't know there's a record from the fifties that goes, 2:02:39.000 --> 2:02:41.880 you talk too much and you never shut up. 2:02:42.120 --> 2:02:42.960 I said you talk. 2:02:43.040 --> 2:02:45.880 We didn't know that, get them. So yeah, we were 2:02:45.960 --> 2:02:47.080 just trying to be funny. 2:02:47.640 --> 2:02:51.080 Hey, you over there know about your can You're like 2:02:51.200 --> 2:02:54.880 the independent network news on channel. So it was just 2:02:55.160 --> 2:02:58.120 us trying to be funny. So there was nobody out 2:02:58.200 --> 2:03:00.360 your crew that talked too much. Run he ran his 2:03:00.480 --> 2:03:04.920 mouth once we made the record that was Run's record. 2:03:05.520 --> 2:03:08.800 Running would never shut up. Eric B prophesized, when one 2:03:08.880 --> 2:03:10.920 day you're going to be a reverend, I love what 2:03:11.040 --> 2:03:14.120 have Yeah, Run, I'll tell you that story. Eric b 2:03:14.360 --> 2:03:16.680 was like, what day you want to be here? Because 2:03:17.640 --> 2:03:19.360 that's why we call him run because he ran his mouth. 2:03:19.400 --> 2:03:20.400 I was a quiet run. 2:03:22.160 --> 2:03:25.160 Yeah, and he became running because of Rush, because Rush 2:03:25.600 --> 2:03:28.400 rus it was movement. But me, if you listen to 2:03:28.520 --> 2:03:32.440 my rhymes when I perform, many heart hearts are warm. 2:03:32.840 --> 2:03:35.920 I'm better known as the Quiet Storm. I don't talk 2:03:36.000 --> 2:03:38.640 too much, but I got beef. When I kill MC's, 2:03:38.640 --> 2:03:40.839 I caused grief devastate in my control. 2:03:41.240 --> 2:03:43.600 It's my main goal. My name is Daryl, his name is. 2:03:43.640 --> 2:03:46.360 Joe, So if you notice, and all through until the 2:03:46.440 --> 2:03:49.040 group broke up, people never heard me from me unless 2:03:49.040 --> 2:03:52.760 I spoke on the microphone. Run was always the voice 2:03:52.760 --> 2:03:56.560 in the lead. So he ran, and I was the 2:03:56.680 --> 2:04:02.520 quiet storm like so many East Sais was always there. 2:04:03.000 --> 2:04:05.200 You know what I'm saying, right, But Run ran. He 2:04:05.360 --> 2:04:06.200 was the talk of the one. 2:04:06.920 --> 2:04:12.960 Holy Moly, grock Moly. The record Jam message. You spoke 2:04:13.000 --> 2:04:17.240 about it earlier. You said that it was made to 2:04:17.680 --> 2:04:22.920 because usually people make records like that where someone passed away. 2:04:22.960 --> 2:04:24.680 But it was like he was making this record about 2:04:24.760 --> 2:04:27.400 him as he was alive. He was actually giving him 2:04:27.440 --> 2:04:30.840 his flowers right then. And there was that something you 2:04:30.960 --> 2:04:33.520 plan was that because like how we spoke earlier, because 2:04:33.560 --> 2:04:37.880 the DJ was kind of like, well, right, that comes 2:04:37.960 --> 2:04:43.360 from this the show business, entertainment, music business, motherfuckers that 2:04:43.840 --> 2:04:49.000 rap right, right, which comes from a cultural hip hop right. 2:04:49.840 --> 2:04:52.480 And I can say this because people say, we know 2:04:52.600 --> 2:04:54.840 you're ain't creative, but run DMC created hip ups. So 2:04:54.960 --> 2:04:57.280 I guess I have the right to say this. I've 2:04:57.320 --> 2:04:59.200 been saying it. I'm not just saying it now because 2:04:59.240 --> 2:05:00.560 of conditions. What's going on. 2:05:00.760 --> 2:05:05.280 I've been saying it's since eighty three. There's it's not 2:05:05.840 --> 2:05:10.280 hip hop. If there's no DJ there, Wow, it's not 2:05:10.400 --> 2:05:10.760 hip hop. 2:05:11.320 --> 2:05:17.200 It's somebody wrapping over something recorded in the studio for 2:05:17.520 --> 2:05:21.600 record making purposes. Now you can tell you but it's 2:05:21.640 --> 2:05:24.520 hip hop, yes, but I'm telling you it's not. But 2:05:24.880 --> 2:05:25.480 it can be. 2:05:25.920 --> 2:05:28.840 It's just like I never thought hip hop would reach 2:05:28.920 --> 2:05:32.240 the point where it would be and this is nothing 2:05:32.320 --> 2:05:37.200 against it. You have Britney Spears and you have Sheryl Crow. 2:05:38.120 --> 2:05:41.440 So Britney needs choreography, she needs a writer, she needs. 2:05:41.720 --> 2:05:43.640 She needs therapy too. Yeah, she need all that. 2:05:44.200 --> 2:05:50.960 Yeah, just needs the guitar and a microphone. So I'm 2:05:51.040 --> 2:05:54.160 talking from an elemental standpoint. You know what I'm saying, 2:05:55.840 --> 2:05:59.320 You can't say it's you can't say you're a painter 2:06:02.240 --> 2:06:04.800 and you're not using a paint BRUSHKA Like. 2:06:04.840 --> 2:06:06.840 My friend's Sonny, he thinks he's a step forward. He 2:06:06.880 --> 2:06:13.160 thinks he's a do artworks, and do artwork. So you 2:06:13.200 --> 2:06:19.960 can be an artist and rap and do a imitation 2:06:20.160 --> 2:06:23.200 of the hip hop culture. But the reason why we 2:06:23.320 --> 2:06:29.640 made records about DJ is the entertainment business is not 2:06:30.000 --> 2:06:35.240 in the business to keep anything holy and sacred. It's 2:06:35.240 --> 2:06:39.200 just got to move the records. So we wait as 2:06:39.240 --> 2:06:42.560 soon as they said something about who's that, we was 2:06:42.680 --> 2:06:45.160 letting people know hip hop. 2:06:45.120 --> 2:06:49.680 Right, it starts with the DJ. Starts with the DJ, 2:06:50.320 --> 2:06:52.840 then the MC's coming, or it starts with the music first. 2:06:53.680 --> 2:06:55.880 So the guy rapping his hip hop music, he's doing 2:06:55.960 --> 2:06:58.320 hip hop. But I'm talking about any hip hop with 2:06:58.480 --> 2:07:01.880 a DJ really doing it. So we made the jam 2:07:01.960 --> 2:07:04.520 Master the J record to let the people know it's 2:07:04.640 --> 2:07:08.240 DJ's and MC's coming up next to one and only 2:07:08.640 --> 2:07:11.560 jam Master back up from the rope punks. So that 2:07:11.800 --> 2:07:14.200 is so that the front of hip hop has done 2:07:14.280 --> 2:07:17.560 push the groups out the picture, and they don't push 2:07:17.680 --> 2:07:21.360 the DJs to the back. But the DJs is the 2:07:21.480 --> 2:07:25.800 foundation of the culture that when I show up, you 2:07:25.920 --> 2:07:27.000 always gonna see one. 2:07:28.120 --> 2:07:30.160 You ain't gonna jay never push one. Like I said, 2:07:30.320 --> 2:07:33.640 technology is an assistant to make it easy. But now 2:07:33.760 --> 2:07:36.800 I don't have to carry a thousand records in the crate. 2:07:36.880 --> 2:07:38.280 I just have it on a hard drive. 2:07:38.920 --> 2:07:41.040 Last night I was in u DJ. 2:07:41.000 --> 2:07:44.760 Atlanta No not no more, Okay, no more. I write 2:07:44.800 --> 2:07:46.000 rhymes and using Atlanta. 2:07:46.440 --> 2:07:48.120 But the last night I was in Atlanta at this 2:07:48.200 --> 2:07:51.720 event is education conference because of my book Darryl's Dream, 2:07:51.800 --> 2:07:53.600 Everybody Go Get One. It is a story about me 2:07:53.680 --> 2:07:56.360 in the third grade that really happened. I do a 2:07:56.400 --> 2:07:57.320 lot of education. 2:07:57.720 --> 2:07:59.720 Your moves you was doing in the third grade. Yeah, 2:07:59.840 --> 2:08:02.920 I had miss Banks. He's left, he left me back, 2:08:02.960 --> 2:08:05.400 that's all I remember. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 2:08:06.800 --> 2:08:08.320 And I was talking out to this a bit and 2:08:09.200 --> 2:08:12.840 there was a DJ there with his the CD deck thing, right, 2:08:12.880 --> 2:08:15.760 And this is funny. You could ask my son before 2:08:15.760 --> 2:08:17.760 I was he knew I was leaving him. Go get 2:08:17.800 --> 2:08:19.800 your father, and he just had to tell me. And 2:08:19.880 --> 2:08:22.280 this is what I love about hip hop, Like it's 2:08:22.320 --> 2:08:25.240 all hip hop. But when we say real hip hop 2:08:25.320 --> 2:08:28.680 we just mean hip hop, that this music business is 2:08:28.840 --> 2:08:29.680 not the essence. 2:08:30.920 --> 2:08:35.280 They're not. You can't you can't comment on it matter. 2:08:35.320 --> 2:08:38.000 Fake can't even come to the party. But this DJ 2:08:38.200 --> 2:08:40.640 just had to show me coming to DMC and he 2:08:40.800 --> 2:08:44.600 just showed me a picture with him at two Techniques because. 2:08:44.360 --> 2:08:52.160 He didn't want to be considered not right, original or authentic. 2:08:52.760 --> 2:08:56.280 So for us, it was important that the group is 2:08:56.440 --> 2:08:59.680 run DMC and and people have a habit of and 2:08:59.760 --> 2:09:02.360 we have run d m C. These two people, somebody 2:09:02.400 --> 2:09:05.080 in the audience will interrupted or I will interrupt. 2:09:05.400 --> 2:09:08.360 It was three people. Oh yeah, that's right. You know 2:09:08.400 --> 2:09:12.760 what I'm saying. You're not gonna get But me, he 2:09:12.840 --> 2:09:16.120 as a fan, when I hear one DMC, I think right, 2:09:16.200 --> 2:09:20.840 but because you whip us. But overall, here's the question 2:09:20.880 --> 2:09:25.520 his wife, I'm so passionate. If you look at all 2:09:25.600 --> 2:09:29.840 the Run DMC covers except for Tougher than Leather, that's the. 2:09:29.960 --> 2:09:33.360 Only one that Jay was on the cover on the 2:09:33.960 --> 2:09:36.160 On the Run DMC album. He's on the back with 2:09:36.320 --> 2:09:39.280 us on the King of Rock album. This is crazy 2:09:39.280 --> 2:09:40.000 about the industry. 2:09:40.000 --> 2:09:42.000 He's on the back with his head down because he 2:09:42.160 --> 2:09:45.560 wasn't signed to Profile records, so they could. 2:09:45.480 --> 2:09:47.520 Not put him on there. All right, you're not going 2:09:47.600 --> 2:09:48.600 to show our DJ, so. 2:09:48.640 --> 2:09:50.720 We're gonna talk about them on every record. Go back 2:09:50.760 --> 2:09:51.560 and look at the albums. 2:09:51.600 --> 2:09:57.240 Oh what's crazy is on the on the Run? Actually 2:09:57.560 --> 2:10:03.480 Run was only signed to the to the Girl and 2:10:03.640 --> 2:10:06.200 we wasn't signing Profile. We signed to Rustle Russell was 2:10:06.280 --> 2:10:08.600 signing the Profiles. Run DMC did the deliver the Running 2:10:08.640 --> 2:10:11.920 see record. We will signed signing Rush Productions. But if 2:10:11.960 --> 2:10:14.800 you look at the album, I'm doing this. 2:10:15.000 --> 2:10:20.760 Because Fantastic Far's incredible in theaters, on the scene with 2:10:20.880 --> 2:10:22.960 the golden voice, through all the People's choice and we 2:10:23.200 --> 2:10:25.760 rock with the Kangs, still lean. We proved to the 2:10:26.560 --> 2:10:30.280 MC's that Fantastics number one and when we step on you, 2:10:30.760 --> 2:10:31.400 you're just like. 2:10:31.480 --> 2:10:34.800 A roach output it weighs a ton. He's the adoring, 2:10:35.080 --> 2:10:39.000 he's the ladies man. So can't you understand that I'm done? 2:10:39.200 --> 2:10:44.600 So it's always the DJ. We call him Flash Crab Master, 2:10:44.760 --> 2:10:48.600 Flash Disco, Be Easy Mic and I'm the MC. You 2:10:48.720 --> 2:10:50.720 walk in the place, you listen to the base, you 2:10:50.840 --> 2:10:53.360 see Melie mel with a smile on his face, King 2:10:53.480 --> 2:10:56.000 of the thrown of the microphone. You should nobody now 2:10:56.080 --> 2:10:59.080 should be left alone, Like when Mel came out with 2:10:59.200 --> 2:11:02.840 the disc to Eminem, he should have just went to 2:11:03.080 --> 2:11:07.040 fucking rappers might be willing, but they ain't able because 2:11:07.080 --> 2:11:09.800 I was there, king straight from my cradle, screamed in 2:11:09.880 --> 2:11:12.720 hollowd shook my rattle, drimed that defeat of them all 2:11:12.840 --> 2:11:15.440 in battle. There was no food in my silver spoon. 2:11:15.520 --> 2:11:17.280 But I grew up hard, and I grew up soon. 2:11:17.360 --> 2:11:19.680 I'm a righteous king and I'm hungry too, and I 2:11:19.800 --> 2:11:21.320 eat a punks that rap like you. 2:11:21.840 --> 2:11:23.560 And he should have told he should have did that 2:11:23.680 --> 2:11:26.040 to Eminem and just called it a rap to you. Mel, 2:11:26.360 --> 2:11:29.160 don't try to get noon new standard to know. Nobody 2:11:29.280 --> 2:11:31.000 never know. These motherfuckers don't know. 2:11:31.080 --> 2:11:31.880 You do that, I do. 2:11:32.520 --> 2:11:34.840 Focos don't know that melt rhyme like me and running 2:11:34.920 --> 2:11:35.320 rock him. 2:11:36.640 --> 2:11:39.880 This is shocking. This shit should go viral. Y'all don't 2:11:39.920 --> 2:11:44.000 know Mel Scorpio raheem rhyme like fucking Big Daddy Kane. 2:11:44.360 --> 2:11:46.960 You just never heard it because they were making records. 2:11:47.000 --> 2:11:50.600 They wasn't fucking put They got bars that will out 2:11:50.680 --> 2:11:52.400 bar all these guys. You see you look what the 2:11:52.480 --> 2:11:55.200 fuck he said, rappers might be willing, but they ain't 2:11:55.320 --> 2:11:58.839 able because I was the king straight from my cradle, 2:11:59.000 --> 2:12:02.120 screamed in hollowd shook my rattle. I dreamt out the 2:12:02.160 --> 2:12:04.600 feet of them all in battle. There was no food 2:12:04.680 --> 2:12:07.240 in my silver'spooon. But I grew up hard, and I 2:12:07.280 --> 2:12:09.320 grew up soon. And then mol said, I'm a righteous 2:12:09.400 --> 2:12:11.240 king and I'm hungry too. We should have told him, 2:12:11.640 --> 2:12:13.440 and I eat up chumpster wrap like you. 2:12:13.760 --> 2:12:15.879 I met this shark his name was George. 2:12:15.920 --> 2:12:18.520 Started writing the rhymes like y'all right yo no, started 2:12:18.560 --> 2:12:21.879 biting mormes, like y'all bite yaws. I started writing morons, 2:12:21.960 --> 2:12:24.360 shark crew and crew, but I was writing more rhymes 2:12:24.400 --> 2:12:26.600 than the shark at chew. Then the shark got sick, 2:12:26.720 --> 2:12:29.280 and then he exploded because he didn't realize that Marobs 2:12:29.440 --> 2:12:29.880 was loaded. 2:12:30.080 --> 2:12:32.080 Flew in the air and into the sea, and the 2:12:32.160 --> 2:12:33.160 whole universe knew. 2:12:33.200 --> 2:12:37.000 The king was me. You don't wonder battle. You know 2:12:37.040 --> 2:12:40.080 what I'm saying and what what I'm sweating now, em 2:12:41.080 --> 2:12:42.640 you didn't go back at him, No, you have to. 2:12:42.760 --> 2:12:45.920 He killed him, and I'm saying, but everybody happened, didn't 2:12:45.920 --> 2:12:46.400 they even. 2:12:47.080 --> 2:12:50.840 Even he got a out of heat for that, But 2:12:50.880 --> 2:12:52.880 I thought it was hip hop what he did. 2:12:52.960 --> 2:12:54.160 It was who he came back. 2:12:54.200 --> 2:12:56.400 But I'm saying me a cast that he should have 2:12:56.480 --> 2:12:59.360 went Like I was sitting on a corner just to 2:12:59.400 --> 2:13:02.080 waste so much time. When I realized I was king 2:13:02.160 --> 2:13:04.640 of the rhyme, I got on the microphone and what 2:13:04.760 --> 2:13:07.280 do you see? The rest was my legacy. 2:13:07.440 --> 2:13:09.360 I was born to be the king of the hip 2:13:09.480 --> 2:13:11.120 hop thing like that. 2:13:11.560 --> 2:13:12.200 They had this. 2:13:12.320 --> 2:13:15.280 When I came along. Like what was good about Pete 2:13:15.360 --> 2:13:17.840 Rocker is when we came back with Down with the King, 2:13:18.160 --> 2:13:21.040 Down with the King. After did that, it was like, Yo, 2:13:21.160 --> 2:13:23.160 we're making that ship. And it's funny. When Jay heard 2:13:23.240 --> 2:13:26.680 that ship, Jay says this, that's the name of the 2:13:26.800 --> 2:13:30.200 album and that's the single, right, And that was that 2:13:30.960 --> 2:13:33.240 was one little thing, you know. 2:13:33.360 --> 2:13:35.840 Bruce Lee says, I'm not afraid of. 2:13:35.880 --> 2:13:41.160 The man who fucking practices a thousand techniques. I'm afraid 2:13:41.200 --> 2:13:45.040 of the man that practices one. I'm living with that 2:13:45.160 --> 2:13:48.280 that work because when we went to the studio, YO, 2:13:48.400 --> 2:13:50.960 were making that ship, this and that. So Pete comes 2:13:51.040 --> 2:13:54.000 to me and he's like, Yo, you ain't gotta be king. 2:13:54.600 --> 2:13:57.000 You ain't gotta be Rock him, you ain't gotta be 2:13:57.160 --> 2:13:59.920 jay Z, you ain't gotta I want that DMC ship. 2:14:00.680 --> 2:14:01.320 I'm confused. 2:14:01.360 --> 2:14:03.400 I'm like, because I'm thinking that I got to write 2:14:03.480 --> 2:14:07.840 differently now shit, And do you know, motherfucker is the 2:14:08.040 --> 2:14:11.800 name the shit that we do? Ad libs and fucking 2:14:12.840 --> 2:14:15.040 metaphors and shit, I don't I just think of my 2:14:15.080 --> 2:14:16.120 round and say it over to beat. 2:14:16.440 --> 2:14:18.920 Give me that DMC shit. And I didn't know what 2:14:19.040 --> 2:14:22.440 to do in the nineties. I'm fucking thirty five years 2:14:22.480 --> 2:14:26.120 old and hip hosterilia change and shit like that. No, 2:14:26.240 --> 2:14:30.680 but what I'm just saying, I'm at another water. So 2:14:31.520 --> 2:14:34.240 Pete Rock says, he just asked me, what the fuck 2:14:34.280 --> 2:14:35.560 are you doing right now? DMC. 2:14:35.800 --> 2:14:39.240 But you're like, because remember I wrote I'm DMC in 2:14:39.280 --> 2:14:41.200 a place to be a true thing about me, son 2:14:41.240 --> 2:14:43.320 of Byford Brooke DMC for Hollins Queens, I. 2:14:43.400 --> 2:14:45.680 Was like, well, I'm on tour ill right about that shit. 2:14:46.320 --> 2:14:48.840 So I was like, okay, I'm taking the tours. I'm 2:14:48.880 --> 2:14:49.720 wrecking the land. 2:14:50.960 --> 2:14:53.080 Hip hop could change and they could have all the 2:14:53.200 --> 2:14:56.440 metaphors and shit, but I keep it hardcore because it's dope, man. 2:14:56.520 --> 2:14:58.520 That's just the raw old shit that I was doing 2:14:58.560 --> 2:15:00.880 in seventy six, and it's my turn to get on 2:15:00.920 --> 2:15:02.880 the mic. I'm gonna do that shit now because this 2:15:03.000 --> 2:15:05.400 audience never seen it, so I'm stand out. 2:15:06.520 --> 2:15:08.920 I learned that. So I'm taking the toys, wrecking the 2:15:09.000 --> 2:15:11.160 land and keeping hardcore because it's dope. Man. 2:15:11.560 --> 2:15:14.120 These are the roughest, toughest word you ever wrote. 2:15:14.240 --> 2:15:17.640 And it's not meant for and I don't usually used profanity, 2:15:17.760 --> 2:15:20.280 but it's not meant for a hole like a slow 2:15:20.440 --> 2:15:21.560 jam sucker. 2:15:21.720 --> 2:15:24.440 MCS could never swing with me because of all the 2:15:24.560 --> 2:15:27.880 things that I bring with me. Only God could be 2:15:28.000 --> 2:15:29.880 a king to me. And if the go od b 2:15:30.000 --> 2:15:33.880 and me ken king of p rockets like rhyme other 2:15:33.960 --> 2:15:35.800 fucking year, and. 2:15:35.840 --> 2:15:37.600 Then I did. I just went me in DMC and 2:15:37.640 --> 2:15:40.400 everywhere I go, cool g rolled up on me, can ship, 2:15:40.520 --> 2:15:42.480 rolled up on me, bumping knuckles, rolled up on me. 2:15:42.600 --> 2:15:45.360 What you said, if the G O D E BM me, 2:15:45.440 --> 2:15:46.120 then the key of. 2:15:46.240 --> 2:15:50.840 The microphone is branded when it's handed to me, or 2:15:50.880 --> 2:15:53.320 what I say, racophone is branded when it's handed to me. 2:15:53.680 --> 2:15:55.960 I'm just standing on this planet and I plant m C. 2:15:56.440 --> 2:15:59.840 The MC fiends always seem to agree that because rocking 2:16:00.120 --> 2:16:04.160 told me the microphone fiend said, nahed your shit rock 2:16:04.280 --> 2:16:09.600 him Coogie Rap and Bumpy imagine them three telling you 2:16:09.760 --> 2:16:13.400 you the dope its motherfucker ever. I was so fucking 2:16:13.600 --> 2:16:16.360 me about But down with the King, Like I said, 2:16:16.400 --> 2:16:17.760 down with the King brought us back. 2:16:17.840 --> 2:16:20.320 And because of Down with the King, we was able 2:16:20.400 --> 2:16:23.040 to go tour. We was back on MTV with the video, 2:16:23.360 --> 2:16:27.440 We was back on the radio. That's what hip hop. 2:16:28.000 --> 2:16:30.080 That's why I say hip hop is it's not old school. 2:16:30.200 --> 2:16:32.840 Isn't old right? You know what I'm saying. You might 2:16:33.040 --> 2:16:35.920 know what I did in eighty six, but the twelve 2:16:36.000 --> 2:16:36.440 year old. 2:16:36.320 --> 2:16:38.879 Kid, now don't. So when he see that shit, he's new. 2:16:39.760 --> 2:16:43.800 Kids always had to ask me, now, shit, yo og, 2:16:45.600 --> 2:16:47.800 you put it down harder than I'm youngins. But I'm 2:16:47.879 --> 2:16:49.879 putting it down at fifty nine like I did when 2:16:49.920 --> 2:16:52.200 I was twelve years old. I'm not thinking I'm going 2:16:52.280 --> 2:16:55.000 into the studio to sell records. I ain't thinking about 2:16:55.080 --> 2:16:58.199 chart position. I'm thinking, how can I make this fucking dope? 2:16:58.200 --> 2:16:59.600 What did you do when you was in your room 2:16:59.600 --> 2:17:03.480 in fifteen? So that's how I approached this craft of minds. 2:17:05.480 --> 2:17:06.039 God damn. 2:17:09.800 --> 2:17:13.560 And it's fucking fun. But it's fucking fun. 2:17:13.720 --> 2:17:15.680 Man. What's one of the places that you've been through, 2:17:15.959 --> 2:17:18.000 been through the tour in the world that she was like, 2:17:18.040 --> 2:17:22.400 what the fuck am I doing here? Look, you said 2:17:22.400 --> 2:17:23.920 Sudan earlier, But. 2:17:25.480 --> 2:17:26.320 Yeah, so it was. 2:17:26.480 --> 2:17:29.959 It was definitely South Sudan because everybody was walking around 2:17:30.000 --> 2:17:31.000 with machine guns. 2:17:31.840 --> 2:17:36.600 And then the student, well the person that brought me 2:17:36.680 --> 2:17:40.960 out there. The police and the National Guard are the 2:17:41.120 --> 2:17:47.600 two warring factions, so at any time, all you got 2:17:47.720 --> 2:17:49.880 to do is just say one little wrong thing about 2:17:49.879 --> 2:17:54.480 the tribe or some shit about the king. Because South 2:17:54.600 --> 2:17:58.720 Sudan has all the oil. North Sudan has all the reserves, 2:17:58.840 --> 2:18:01.320 so they constant fight over money and shit like that. 2:18:01.600 --> 2:18:05.120 But it definitely was South student because this is scary, 2:18:05.360 --> 2:18:07.720 so we get in town for the sad. Oh, let 2:18:07.760 --> 2:18:09.520 me shout out to God that brought me. This guy 2:18:09.600 --> 2:18:14.039 named Emmanuel Jaw he was a boys child soldier. 2:18:15.440 --> 2:18:15.880 At nine. 2:18:15.920 --> 2:18:18.720 When he was nine years old, the rebel army came 2:18:18.800 --> 2:18:22.440 into his village and killed all the adults and took 2:18:22.640 --> 2:18:25.240 all the hills and gave them guns to fight against 2:18:25.320 --> 2:18:28.040 the government, said nine years old him and is forty 2:18:28.400 --> 2:18:32.760 Hold up? They come into your village and kill all 2:18:32.840 --> 2:18:38.840 the parents guts And he's the most well smoking, well 2:18:38.959 --> 2:18:40.640 spoken person you had ever seen. 2:18:40.920 --> 2:18:44.200 Was a child killer who was killed at nine years 2:18:44.200 --> 2:18:48.400 old to arm to cut all that shit. So when 2:18:48.440 --> 2:18:51.760 he was nine years old, he was fighting, him and 2:18:51.840 --> 2:18:55.480 his forty friends and he was out in the wilderness fighting. 2:18:55.600 --> 2:18:58.000 So they got tired of killing their own people, so 2:18:58.160 --> 2:19:00.320 they said, we're gonna go a one and escape. Now 2:19:00.360 --> 2:19:04.360 the problem is when you escape, the soldiers you're running 2:19:04.360 --> 2:19:06.480 from are gonna kill you first on a site, and 2:19:06.600 --> 2:19:09.400 then the other soldiers from the government are gonna shoot 2:19:09.400 --> 2:19:11.280 you because even if you say I'm coming there, they 2:19:11.320 --> 2:19:13.600 think you got bombs or whatever, so they ain't trusting you. 2:19:13.920 --> 2:19:16.680 So what they would do was what they would do 2:19:17.000 --> 2:19:20.320 was when the people that they ate were from would 2:19:20.320 --> 2:19:22.600 go raid a village, the kids would go in there 2:19:22.600 --> 2:19:24.360 and eat the scraps. But it got to the point 2:19:24.360 --> 2:19:28.480 where the other soldiers wasn't leaving us. So lonstory short, 2:19:28.800 --> 2:19:32.000 his friends were dying a starvation. So it's just him 2:19:32.040 --> 2:19:35.720 and his boy, right, And imagine me and you and Norri. 2:19:35.959 --> 2:19:38.040 All our boys are dead, It's just me and you. 2:19:38.200 --> 2:19:41.720 Thirty eight or died at starvation, and I turned to 2:19:41.800 --> 2:19:44.240 you because I'm dying and I look at you and 2:19:44.320 --> 2:19:48.680 I'm your boy, and I say, Nori, if I die tonight, 2:19:48.760 --> 2:19:53.280 it's okay if you eat me. Imagine that. So Joll 2:19:53.400 --> 2:19:59.040 said his prayer to God wasn't delivering me this and that? 2:19:59.240 --> 2:20:02.520 This serious pread? God, God, what's the pros and cons 2:20:02.560 --> 2:20:05.000 of if I eat my friend? And what's the pros 2:20:05.000 --> 2:20:07.080 and cons if I don't eat my friend? So that's 2:20:07.120 --> 2:20:08.480 where he was at right then and there he can 2:20:08.560 --> 2:20:13.879 saved by the un They take him from. Didn't have to, Okay, alright, cool, 2:20:14.400 --> 2:20:18.000 heake him to not roby to the rehabilitation center. He's 2:20:18.040 --> 2:20:22.040 a wild kid that was illing, so they trying to 2:20:22.240 --> 2:20:24.680 educate him. He's a fucking beast. He said he was 2:20:24.720 --> 2:20:27.000 getting the beef for of his students. You ever see 2:20:27.040 --> 2:20:30.440 the horror movie Shits and said the students say something 2:20:30.440 --> 2:20:33.040 to him. He taking a pen and pointing it and 2:20:33.200 --> 2:20:36.240 I'm like, he's that kid, He's he's wild. 2:20:36.720 --> 2:20:39.720 So one of the counselors and it's the promoter that 2:20:39.800 --> 2:20:40.440 brought you od there. 2:20:41.200 --> 2:20:44.680 Yeah I did him, but he said, I'm gonna tell you, Yeah, 2:20:44.680 --> 2:20:47.720 he's been a big white track this out. One of 2:20:47.800 --> 2:20:54.440 the counselors is playing run dmc ughdy by Nature Public Enemy. 2:20:55.160 --> 2:21:00.560 So he hears it, what's the what's that? The counselor 2:21:00.640 --> 2:21:04.080 is like, oh, so you like this? What's that? What's that? 2:21:04.160 --> 2:21:07.160 He said that was the only time he felt something 2:21:07.240 --> 2:21:08.039 that was good to him. 2:21:08.560 --> 2:21:09.280 Oh you want to hit it? 2:21:09.360 --> 2:21:13.800 Yeah, yeah, you know imagine crazy, crazy African killer machine. 2:21:14.280 --> 2:21:17.960 Here's naughty native stuff. The councilors play, Okay, here's the deal, 2:21:18.560 --> 2:21:21.400 stick gild Man. You start going to school, this and 2:21:21.480 --> 2:21:23.520 that just to hit the tape. 2:21:23.520 --> 2:21:25.760 Okay, So he hit the tape, goes to school, show 2:21:25.840 --> 2:21:28.960 me something, becomes a straight at student, makes it to 2:21:29.040 --> 2:21:33.280 the university, goes into the university majors in communications and music, 2:21:33.560 --> 2:21:37.959 starts to becoming a MC for his from Sudan, who 2:21:38.040 --> 2:21:41.320 gets to open for Nelson Mandela, this and that, whatever, 2:21:41.480 --> 2:21:42.080 whatever whatever. 2:21:42.720 --> 2:21:45.800 So he does because of hip hop. He said it 2:21:45.879 --> 2:21:46.080 was the. 2:21:46.240 --> 2:21:49.640 Only thing that made him feel like he was working. 2:21:49.720 --> 2:21:53.080 He correlates. So then he does all of that. He 2:21:53.160 --> 2:21:55.760 does all of this great stuff for his country. They 2:21:55.879 --> 2:21:57.920 bring him to New York City to get honored by 2:21:58.000 --> 2:22:02.720 the hard Rock This is before hard Rock Ain's ownership 2:22:02.879 --> 2:22:04.879 because the hard rockers and the big. 2:22:06.600 --> 2:22:09.280 Philanthropy stuff like that. So they bring them in and 2:22:09.360 --> 2:22:11.360 one of the ladies from the Harrrock movie there was like, DMC, 2:22:11.680 --> 2:22:13.160 we have this kid, tells me a story. 2:22:13.520 --> 2:22:15.640 Come tomorrow. We want to surprise him with you cool. 2:22:15.760 --> 2:22:18.480 So I come to the luncheon and it's a bunch 2:22:18.560 --> 2:22:21.280 of people in there, like he does some incredible ship. 2:22:21.400 --> 2:22:23.160 So they said just go sit at the end of 2:22:23.200 --> 2:22:25.240 the table. Sitting at the end of the table and 2:22:25.320 --> 2:22:27.520 he's speaking. He's meeting all these people and sending nobody 2:22:27.560 --> 2:22:30.240 announces me, and then he looks and he sees me 2:22:31.240 --> 2:22:34.440 just so and he comes over to me and he 2:22:34.640 --> 2:22:37.680 just cries on me and he's like, yo, run DMC 2:22:38.040 --> 2:22:40.960 know that my nature hip hop saying man, he just 2:22:41.040 --> 2:22:43.320 tells me the story, and I'm like, I'm like blowing away. 2:22:43.720 --> 2:22:46.840 So then he goes, will you come to my country? 2:22:48.160 --> 2:22:50.360 And this is what I'm answering your question now, So 2:22:50.480 --> 2:22:55.880 I'm thinking yeah. I answered yeah immediately, but I'm thinking, 2:22:56.120 --> 2:23:01.120 j you know what I'm saying. So we fly out 2:23:01.200 --> 2:23:04.720 to South student we say we run engine no, no, no, 2:23:05.040 --> 2:23:09.640 just me, my DJ Eric and my security and well 2:23:09.680 --> 2:23:13.600 it's funny this is not. When they showed me the 2:23:13.680 --> 2:23:17.480 brochure of where we're staying at, it's like, oh, ship, 2:23:17.560 --> 2:23:22.160 a pool, air conditioning building. But we get there, it's 2:23:22.280 --> 2:23:27.920 just huts. No toilet ball, no toilet ball, no toilet 2:23:29.600 --> 2:23:30.000 Hold up. 2:23:31.040 --> 2:23:34.360 The cut us is fucking bugs. 2:23:35.520 --> 2:23:39.760 Everywhere, to the point where it's so many bugs and 2:23:39.800 --> 2:23:42.400 they so big, you just get it's a waste of 2:23:42.520 --> 2:23:42.840 time and. 2:23:44.320 --> 2:23:50.920 Fu show time like to that point. So that was 2:23:51.000 --> 2:23:53.800 my wildest place off Cudent. But the beauty of it 2:23:54.120 --> 2:23:56.640 is that they know our hip hop right and they 2:23:56.760 --> 2:23:59.840 value it. So we go to sound check and if 2:23:59.879 --> 2:24:02.480 you look him up right now, he's the vice president 2:24:03.280 --> 2:24:04.199 of Sudan. 2:24:05.840 --> 2:24:10.360 Yeah he wears cowboy hat and cowboy boots. So we 2:24:10.560 --> 2:24:12.240 see we ain't we ain't seen none of this the 2:24:12.280 --> 2:24:14.520 whole time. All of a sudden, we look up. We 2:24:14.720 --> 2:24:19.720 see range rovers, we see escalades, we see Mercedes Bens 2:24:19.760 --> 2:24:23.000 and we see BMW And it looked like something out 2:24:23.040 --> 2:24:26.400 of a Tom Cruise Mission Impossible movie. They moving like that. 2:24:27.320 --> 2:24:29.680 We just see this ent roge of cars coming up 2:24:29.720 --> 2:24:32.320 to the place of the ship right pulls up to 2:24:32.520 --> 2:24:34.279 like the ship in the movies. 2:24:34.400 --> 2:24:38.760 Those stunt drivers, the motherfuckers exist, they pull up, security 2:24:38.800 --> 2:24:40.960 gets out right, so the Vice President of South Sudan 2:24:41.080 --> 2:24:43.600 gets out and we in the sound check and the 2:24:43.760 --> 2:24:46.959 vice president walks in there and this shit is scary man, 2:24:47.080 --> 2:24:49.840 motherfuckers with machine huns this and there, and you know, 2:24:49.959 --> 2:24:51.279 the vice president, he's different. 2:24:51.840 --> 2:24:55.720 Where's the rapper? Where's I'm come to see the like 2:24:55.840 --> 2:25:01.600 with that idiot, I mean ship? Where's the high My 2:25:01.840 --> 2:25:05.039 DJ his ful like, he's right here. So I come. 2:25:05.720 --> 2:25:08.880 The guy comes to me and he's literally taking me 2:25:09.000 --> 2:25:11.440 like this. He comes, I want to see the all 2:25:11.840 --> 2:25:24.040 this the wrapper rapp and he's fuck yo, He's like, 2:25:24.320 --> 2:25:27.080 start right, He's shaking me the wrappers and like that. 2:25:27.760 --> 2:25:29.720 So then you I want to see your show. And 2:25:29.800 --> 2:25:33.280 then he sits down in the showtime and he's sitting there. 2:25:33.680 --> 2:25:36.800 The thing what's funny about this story is that he's 2:25:37.320 --> 2:25:41.440 fucking the you know, the one like the mean ship 2:25:41.640 --> 2:25:44.080 like war lord. I want to see your show and 2:25:44.200 --> 2:25:48.200 he said, and he's sitting there. So I'm thinking, yo, 2:25:48.240 --> 2:25:53.800 if I ain't dope, it's my right, you know. But 2:25:53.959 --> 2:25:54.640 he's sitting there. 2:25:54.720 --> 2:25:58.640 Everybody's around him and all the people it's about or 2:25:58.760 --> 2:26:00.400 what do you say about two andre and fift people. 2:26:01.000 --> 2:26:05.199 They all in the back like his soldiers. The regular okay, 2:26:05.240 --> 2:26:07.640 the regular people, okay, crowd. You know, first one I 2:26:07.760 --> 2:26:09.640 was in like this, they like, oh, it's damnsey. But 2:26:09.720 --> 2:26:13.200 when he came, oh oh, when he came, okay, it's 2:26:13.400 --> 2:26:16.480 kind of like some scary dictator shape, like I'm thank 2:26:16.520 --> 2:26:18.800 you damn. If I ain't dope, this is gonna be crazy. 2:26:19.400 --> 2:26:22.600 So then my DJ Charlie Chan, he just go, yo, 2:26:22.680 --> 2:26:24.920 d just do what the fuck you do? So I said, 2:26:25.040 --> 2:26:32.240 all right, you know he's thinking, you know, fift week, 2:26:32.560 --> 2:26:35.039 So yo, y'all come up to the front. We pull 2:26:35.120 --> 2:26:38.640 the people up the front. We performed like forty five minutes. 2:26:39.000 --> 2:26:43.560 We had those aft your hands and the records Breakdow 2:26:43.680 --> 2:26:47.600 knew the recket so but that was my craziest experience ever. 2:26:48.080 --> 2:26:51.240 But you know, Russia's cool. We went into Moscow. They know, 2:26:52.040 --> 2:26:54.840 they fucking know mob deep there, you know what I'm saying. 2:26:54.879 --> 2:26:57.840 They know they know underground and ship like that. But 2:26:58.080 --> 2:27:01.080 South Sudan, what was beautiful is they knew Park, they 2:27:01.160 --> 2:27:02.279 knew Big, they knew. 2:27:02.080 --> 2:27:05.040 Our hip hop. But it was the scariest trip of 2:27:05.080 --> 2:27:07.320 my life. Let me ask you, because You mentioned Poking 2:27:07.400 --> 2:27:10.320 Big a couple of times, right, and you said that 2:27:10.400 --> 2:27:13.320 you was on tour with Parc and Big together. No not, 2:27:14.840 --> 2:27:18.000 you opened up separate, separate, right, We opened up for them. 2:27:18.040 --> 2:27:21.760 So two pac question, you saw the relationship that they 2:27:21.800 --> 2:27:25.519 were cool? No? No, I never seen them together. They 2:27:25.600 --> 2:27:28.280 opened up for pucking Big at two times. This was 2:27:28.640 --> 2:27:29.400 after they split. 2:27:29.760 --> 2:27:31.760 When I first met Park. What was crazy about? 2:27:31.840 --> 2:27:32.920 What park? We played? 2:27:34.560 --> 2:27:36.480 What's the biggest mall in the world, I think was 2:27:36.520 --> 2:27:41.040 Minnesota or something like that, all of America. Yeah, yeah, 2:27:41.080 --> 2:27:43.080 so we was we was, we was doing the show. 2:27:43.160 --> 2:27:45.280 They was open for Park and Yo, let's go to 2:27:45.360 --> 2:27:46.800 the mall. You know, that's what you do when you 2:27:46.840 --> 2:27:48.880 go to So we go to the mall and it 2:27:49.040 --> 2:27:51.760 was just crazy about I saw this happened when we 2:27:51.920 --> 2:27:54.920 walked in the mall. I don't know if they got 2:27:54.920 --> 2:27:58.920 a single Park out, but the security, the police officer 2:27:59.400 --> 2:28:02.440 just walked over there and said, you take your hat 2:28:02.520 --> 2:28:05.360 off like were walking in the mall. 2:28:05.879 --> 2:28:07.680 You know what I'm saying. Jay got his hand, but 2:28:07.800 --> 2:28:11.320 the police off and then poked you like what the fuck? Seman? 2:28:11.440 --> 2:28:13.720 This is what I'm talking yo, Pop calm now, and 2:28:13.800 --> 2:28:15.840 this is that boom boom boom boom boom, whatever what 2:28:15.920 --> 2:28:17.800 I mean. Jay's like, yo, man, how you gonna tell 2:28:17.840 --> 2:28:19.959 Park to You ain't tell me to take my minds off. 2:28:20.360 --> 2:28:24.720 I don't know if it was a pop thing police No, 2:28:25.320 --> 2:28:29.800 probably yeah, yeah, yeah that's probably why. Yeah, that's probably why. 2:28:29.840 --> 2:28:32.080 But I saw that. But overall, Park was brilliant. 2:28:32.120 --> 2:28:34.320 He was cool, he was funny, and all he could 2:28:34.400 --> 2:28:36.480 fucking talk about was the fuck he I think he 2:28:36.560 --> 2:28:38.920 even made a whole record about it. His whole ship 2:28:39.040 --> 2:28:41.520 was trying to convince me that I'm legit, Like if 2:28:41.600 --> 2:28:43.680 you like you know what I'm saying, which is beautiful, 2:28:43.760 --> 2:28:45.920 Which is beautiful. But yeah, we hung went Park, We 2:28:46.000 --> 2:28:49.120 hung went Big. Big was just like Big was like 2:28:49.200 --> 2:28:50.560 who could I describe Big? Right? 2:28:51.120 --> 2:28:53.960 Big was just like fucking he was just lovable, right, 2:28:54.560 --> 2:28:55.360 and I'm saying he was. 2:28:55.520 --> 2:28:58.520 He was just a funny, lovable like him and Jay 2:28:58.600 --> 2:29:01.840 really got along because you know, Jay flying Jason moved 2:29:01.840 --> 2:29:03.640 a lot of weed too, and sh yeah exactly. 2:29:04.320 --> 2:29:06.920 Yeah they have blunts. Yeah you know, so where was 2:29:06.959 --> 2:29:08.960 you at when you kind of like see you know, 2:29:09.120 --> 2:29:11.600 they're they're they're like this, this is like this is 2:29:11.680 --> 2:29:13.760 like I want to say, there's always been beef and 2:29:13.840 --> 2:29:16.360 hip hop because like there's always been like the battles 2:29:16.400 --> 2:29:18.720 and stuff like that, and these battles kind of like 2:29:18.840 --> 2:29:24.760 sometimes it into something. Of course, this was the first, 2:29:24.879 --> 2:29:28.040 like this was the first difference was like, how did 2:29:28.080 --> 2:29:29.440 you feel like, you know what I mean, you being 2:29:29.480 --> 2:29:31.400 one of the architects of hip hop and these people 2:29:31.560 --> 2:29:35.400 taking it this far? And well, I kind of understood it, 2:29:35.440 --> 2:29:38.840 but I don't think people, I don't think the media, 2:29:39.120 --> 2:29:41.720 and I don't think people like us. We didn't get 2:29:41.800 --> 2:29:44.960 vocal enough because what was happening in the beginning of it, 2:29:45.160 --> 2:29:49.520 it was almost like the two rival the two rival 2:29:49.920 --> 2:29:53.640 high school teams. The players settled a beef on the field. 2:29:54.520 --> 2:29:56.320 But if I see you fuck you, this and that, 2:29:56.480 --> 2:29:59.720 this and that. So there was no there was no 2:30:00.600 --> 2:30:05.000 this did not this, There was no determined there was 2:30:05.080 --> 2:30:10.160 no describing that this should just stay on record. But 2:30:10.280 --> 2:30:13.080 then it was it was different. It was more deeper 2:30:13.240 --> 2:30:18.280 because Pop felt something personally was done to him. But 2:30:18.600 --> 2:30:23.200 but the East coast, West coast ward, we never seen it. Right, 2:30:23.320 --> 2:30:25.640 we was going over there, but see it's a little 2:30:25.720 --> 2:30:28.360 different LUs the same thing. We just interviewed him and 2:30:28.440 --> 2:30:30.480 he said he was never affected by the East Coast West. 2:30:31.879 --> 2:30:36.840 He was another col sug Knight was gonna buy us. 2:30:42.320 --> 2:30:45.320 Sug Knight was gonna put run DMC on death row 2:30:45.440 --> 2:30:49.080 records proper they were starting. 2:30:49.840 --> 2:30:52.879 He was going not definitely, No, he's gonna put us 2:30:52.920 --> 2:30:55.760 on death row. We had a meeting with him at 2:30:56.200 --> 2:31:03.200 and Beverly Hill. We had a big the Beverly Hill. James. No, 2:31:05.920 --> 2:31:06.480 I don't think we. 2:31:06.480 --> 2:31:07.480 Would have had to neither. 2:31:07.959 --> 2:31:10.240 We had meeting with Sure. This was like when death 2:31:10.280 --> 2:31:12.320 Row was right at their height. 2:31:12.360 --> 2:31:14.600 Before, right before U the downfall of it. I do 2:31:14.720 --> 2:31:16.880 remember these rooms, you know, I'm saying. We sat there 2:31:16.920 --> 2:31:20.160 with him and he said, buy you off that you're 2:31:20.280 --> 2:31:22.279 running them. See, I mean a lot to this culture. 2:31:22.320 --> 2:31:23.959 And they said, you know you got to say something 2:31:23.959 --> 2:31:24.440 about sugar. 2:31:24.640 --> 2:31:25.119 Sugar aright. 2:31:25.600 --> 2:31:29.480 He had right intention because every time I see him, 2:31:29.680 --> 2:31:31.560 me ma Orka, he used to just show up and 2:31:31.680 --> 2:31:36.320 come and sit down and say, man, you know it 2:31:36.400 --> 2:31:37.119 used to come here. 2:31:37.320 --> 2:31:38.440 Huh No. 2:31:38.560 --> 2:31:40.880 No, this was in a sushi restaurant, or it was 2:31:40.959 --> 2:31:43.640 at the Mandrion Club or whatever. And he said, you know, 2:31:43.760 --> 2:31:45.880 we was just amazed and he said, Shug said this. 2:31:46.240 --> 2:31:48.520 We were just so amazed that when your cast came 2:31:48.640 --> 2:31:50.720 here from New York and he said this, we were 2:31:50.840 --> 2:31:54.240 just so amazed to see how you're stuck together because 2:31:54.240 --> 2:31:56.920 remember running m CLL this and we moved together. 2:31:57.120 --> 2:32:00.840 It was just something about I don't know boy, yeah, 2:32:01.440 --> 2:32:03.360 but you know, and he talked about that. But he 2:32:03.400 --> 2:32:07.119 said he was gonna buyas bring us on to death 2:32:07.280 --> 2:32:09.760 Row because he says, death Row we at the top 2:32:09.879 --> 2:32:12.039 right now, and you should be with the top row, 2:32:12.160 --> 2:32:15.039 you know, that whole ship. And then somebody else had 2:32:15.120 --> 2:32:18.440 told me now that motherfucker was doing that ship so 2:32:18.640 --> 2:32:21.640 he can fucking take the kings from the East and 2:32:21.840 --> 2:32:23.760 throw it in their face. Yeah, I don't even got 2:32:23.800 --> 2:32:26.000 your run DMCs. Now, I didn't think about it like that. 2:32:26.280 --> 2:32:28.920 I don't you know what I'm saying, because he did 2:32:28.959 --> 2:32:30.959 that with with Hammer too, where he brought Hammer. 2:32:31.000 --> 2:32:33.360 I mean, yeah, Hammer's on the West. But I think 2:32:33.400 --> 2:32:34.960 he genuinely appreciated it. 2:32:35.080 --> 2:32:38.920 No, he did. The two three times that I sat 2:32:39.000 --> 2:32:42.040 with Shook personally with no rud Ro, I didn't see 2:32:42.080 --> 2:32:42.360 all of that. 2:32:43.240 --> 2:32:48.960 He generally like, was they they they wanted to have 2:32:49.240 --> 2:32:51.680 the thing I talked about that we were doing with 2:32:51.800 --> 2:32:54.840 hip hop outside of the business. So I think Shug 2:32:54.959 --> 2:32:59.279 wanted to have run DMC as the the holy grail. 2:33:00.040 --> 2:33:02.640 It's like the ultimate trophy, right if you're a hip 2:33:02.680 --> 2:33:05.240 hop head and you have power money, what's. 2:33:05.120 --> 2:33:08.920 The un see? And I gave a lot of money. 2:33:09.120 --> 2:33:11.800 And I remember the night Pop died, we was the 2:33:12.240 --> 2:33:16.440 what was the club that they had in Vegas? Vegas? 2:33:17.440 --> 2:33:23.040 Seven Biggies six Yeah, yeah, yeah like that. 2:33:23.480 --> 2:33:27.240 So we was hired by them to perform at the 2:33:27.360 --> 2:33:29.840 after party m for the Tyson Fight. 2:33:30.000 --> 2:33:30.680 For the Tyson Fight. 2:33:30.760 --> 2:33:33.959 Wow, bro, this is this is one. This is when 2:33:34.040 --> 2:33:37.039 the Luxe was. I got married with the Luxey. Yeah, 2:33:37.080 --> 2:33:39.920 this one was new like it was flash it so 2:33:40.000 --> 2:33:43.080 I'll never forget. Brought us there, paid for everything we 2:33:43.200 --> 2:33:44.400 used to hire in entertainment. 2:33:44.520 --> 2:33:46.520 So y'all was there that night in Vegas. Let me 2:33:46.600 --> 2:33:50.200 tell you what holy ship. So we get a call 2:33:50.600 --> 2:33:55.760 against the call. It shook, Yo. This is a funny jay. Sorry, Yo, 2:33:55.840 --> 2:33:57.920 I'm coming to me and Pop coming and get y'all 2:33:59.000 --> 2:34:02.240 you're gonna ride to the fight with us, because remember 2:34:02.280 --> 2:34:03.840 who was in the in the in the in the 2:34:04.120 --> 2:34:06.960 the seven fifteen with them. Nobody was in the back seat. 2:34:07.680 --> 2:34:09.480 Me running Ja was supposed to be in that back seat. 2:34:09.600 --> 2:34:13.680 Whoa, he calls, calls a look, say yo, I'm coming 2:34:13.800 --> 2:34:16.720 to get y'all park. We want you to ride to 2:34:16.840 --> 2:34:21.360 the fight with us. Y'all going ahead without us? Why, 2:34:21.480 --> 2:34:27.199 what's the problem Jay's getting dressed? What are you talking about? 2:34:28.040 --> 2:34:31.680 Just show Dn standing there. When Jay would get dressed, 2:34:32.040 --> 2:34:36.280 Jay would have all his clothes out there. It's worse 2:34:36.360 --> 2:34:39.360 than your wife or girl. Again, how does this look? 2:34:39.440 --> 2:34:40.800 Just in that for like three hours. 2:34:41.840 --> 2:34:44.560 The reason why we didn't ride to the fight with 2:34:44.720 --> 2:34:46.520 Pocket because Jay was getting dressed. 2:34:46.760 --> 2:34:54.560 Jay would spend hours. He's seriously, you'll be telling us 2:34:54.760 --> 2:34:56.800 that's coolk hold and you would like it would be 2:34:56.840 --> 2:34:58.080 a fashion show. 2:34:59.040 --> 2:35:03.920 That reget my lion. Day's getting dressed. This case is 2:35:03.959 --> 2:35:08.480 a blessing, right, so huge blessing. So we say we 2:35:08.640 --> 2:35:10.680 meet at the after part. We get to the after party. 2:35:11.360 --> 2:35:16.119 Hammer's there, the whole crew, everybody's there, melm and everybody's there, 2:35:16.160 --> 2:35:18.640 this and that. So yeah, yeah, did he have one 2:35:18.680 --> 2:35:20.320 little pants? No, he didn't have a pan. 2:35:22.080 --> 2:35:27.400 This was the suit rich tuxedo, joins Hammer. So we 2:35:27.560 --> 2:35:30.080 in the club waiting for the fight to end. All 2:35:30.120 --> 2:35:32.520 of a sudden, one dude comes in. It's about maybe 2:35:32.560 --> 2:35:36.160 one hundred people in there. They all leave, empty cup 2:35:36.280 --> 2:35:38.920 music all. A guy comes in with a briefcase. 2:35:39.160 --> 2:35:42.320 To me running Jay. Everybody leaves. God comes with the briefcase. 2:35:42.760 --> 2:35:46.520 Put the briefcase, opens it up. It's all casts two 2:35:46.800 --> 2:35:49.760 grand cash. Yeah, y'all getting paid to nine No show, 2:35:49.840 --> 2:35:54.119 go home. Wow, we got to pay like we didn't 2:35:54.120 --> 2:35:56.240 know what's going on. So next morning I had an 2:35:56.240 --> 2:35:59.560 afternoon flight. I'm in the gym on a on a treadmill. 2:36:00.080 --> 2:36:04.920 And then CNN last night in Vegas, Tupacus show. Oh Ship, 2:36:05.040 --> 2:36:06.400 that's why it happened. 2:36:06.840 --> 2:36:08.760 So I didn't find out Pa got shot till the 2:36:08.840 --> 2:36:11.200 next morning, and I find out that's why, y'all. 2:36:11.280 --> 2:36:13.080 I'm talking about we in the club like this, honey, 2:36:13.120 --> 2:36:15.560 my phone. One dude comes in, the whole. 2:36:17.400 --> 2:36:19.960 Guy comes in like Ship out of the movies. Briefcake 2:36:20.080 --> 2:36:22.720 paid us in cash, y'all go home, no show tonight. 2:36:22.959 --> 2:36:26.440 I didn't find out till the next morning night Paca show. 2:36:27.160 --> 2:36:30.320 But the reason why you could ask Eric, we coming 2:36:30.360 --> 2:36:32.080 to get y'all and. 2:36:32.160 --> 2:36:34.520 We I'm like, oh shit, I'm begging with pocket Shug. 2:36:34.640 --> 2:36:39.040 No you're not why Eric, Because he's getting dressed and 2:36:39.160 --> 2:36:41.920 he was at the Luxe. Aw as well, because that 2:36:42.080 --> 2:36:44.640 picture with Pocket and Shug is in front of the Luxe. 2:36:44.720 --> 2:36:46.080 I said, one in the car. 2:36:46.440 --> 2:36:48.120 Yeah, that's in front of the luxew That's what I 2:36:48.160 --> 2:36:50.840 said tonight. Yeah, they left and we had to wait 2:36:50.920 --> 2:36:54.040 for Jay to get dressed. Yeah, that's my favorite hotel. Yeah, 2:36:54.080 --> 2:36:57.480 hell yeah, I love Yeah, came out there exactly we did. 2:37:00.280 --> 2:37:00.920 That's crazy. 2:37:01.520 --> 2:37:03.440 I would have I would have never put you guys 2:37:03.560 --> 2:37:05.000 in that scenario. 2:37:05.480 --> 2:37:08.119 I wouldn't have never said that. I would have never. 2:37:08.720 --> 2:37:10.200 But you know it's like, yo, who were going to 2:37:10.280 --> 2:37:14.360 get to put run DMC alright, It's like, oh ship right, 2:37:15.360 --> 2:37:19.440 so that's honorable. It's like but you know, I say, 2:37:19.480 --> 2:37:21.760 they could have win, got pop, could have did the afterpart. 2:37:22.280 --> 2:37:27.080 They wanted to death Row wanted us to so they 2:37:27.240 --> 2:37:32.840 can sit there as the audience. That's flysh what man wild? 2:37:34.000 --> 2:37:35.720 Do you want to go back to the Dominican thing? 2:37:36.040 --> 2:37:40.080 Oh? All right? So what did I hear that you 2:37:40.240 --> 2:37:44.440 was Dominican? Where's this our MTV or something? Yeah? 2:37:44.480 --> 2:37:47.600 Yeah, because I did a special my adoption journey. Okay, 2:37:48.040 --> 2:37:50.879 when Down with the King came out right, Uh, put 2:37:50.959 --> 2:37:53.480 us back on the road, back on the charge video 2:37:53.560 --> 2:37:55.280 on it. The very next day after the video, I 2:37:55.360 --> 2:37:57.520 woke up and I wanted to kill myself. 2:37:57.879 --> 2:38:01.120 I don't know why. I don't know. I just woke up. 2:38:01.640 --> 2:38:03.480 I said, I don't want to live no more. Wow, 2:38:03.920 --> 2:38:06.360 God bless, And it was just void in me and 2:38:06.440 --> 2:38:08.120 I ain't know what it was. And I said to 2:38:08.200 --> 2:38:10.160 why am I for the fuck? And I sat and 2:38:10.240 --> 2:38:12.480 I was like, yo, you back at where you was 2:38:12.959 --> 2:38:16.760 this and that that's not enough. Something's missing. It was 2:38:16.840 --> 2:38:19.200 just something missing, and I was like, okay, let me 2:38:19.280 --> 2:38:22.120 look at my life. John McDaniels for Hollis Queens, New 2:38:22.200 --> 2:38:26.560 York Banners, my mother Bifer's, my father office, my brother runs, 2:38:26.640 --> 2:38:28.240 my pal, Jay's, my DJ. 2:38:28.720 --> 2:38:29.520 This hip hop thing. 2:38:29.600 --> 2:38:31.560 I went first to go go first of all, platic first, 2:38:31.560 --> 2:38:33.520 and the covered room stone first, went to sneaker deals 2:38:33.560 --> 2:38:35.280 this and now I'm back with you, said why am 2:38:35.320 --> 2:38:37.280 I fucking feeling like this? And I didn't know what 2:38:37.520 --> 2:38:40.640 the fuck that shit was and feeling just stuck with me, 2:38:40.840 --> 2:38:42.520 just stuck with me, stuck with me, suck with me, 2:38:42.520 --> 2:38:46.760 and I'm living with it, functioning. And what was crazy 2:38:46.879 --> 2:38:49.760 at this time was in nineteen ninety. 2:38:50.320 --> 2:38:54.120 I got diagnosed with a cute pancreatitis because I was 2:38:54.240 --> 2:38:57.320 drinking a case of forties a day, and I want 2:38:57.360 --> 2:39:01.480 to tease a case, a case six or twelve forty. 2:39:02.280 --> 2:39:04.760 I put refrigerator in the back of my truck so 2:39:04.800 --> 2:39:06.680 I didn't have to stop at the grocery sevice. 2:39:07.879 --> 2:39:12.200 And this is OEO say not fake all right? Cool? 2:39:12.520 --> 2:39:15.520 I told you earlier I hate fake shit. That's when 2:39:15.560 --> 2:39:16.520 I shot so human. 2:39:16.680 --> 2:39:21.000 That's fake shit. You don't even you don't even take 2:39:21.080 --> 2:39:24.320 that conversation about more liquor. But it's gotta be old 2:39:25.080 --> 2:39:28.360 old gold more liquor too, or yes, old English eight hundred. 2:39:28.600 --> 2:39:33.039 The VC boys brass Monkey is because we wrote slow 2:39:33.120 --> 2:39:35.520 and low with them, poor Revere slow. 2:39:35.560 --> 2:39:37.760 We wrote slow and load for them. We wrote poor 2:39:37.840 --> 2:39:41.480 Revere for them and their brass monkey. Opening rhyme is 2:39:41.640 --> 2:39:44.600 from my old English rhyme. I had a rhyme that 2:39:44.760 --> 2:39:46.959 was about old English. I got this rhyme that's more 2:39:47.040 --> 2:39:49.320 than real. When you drink all English, it's how you 2:39:49.480 --> 2:39:52.600 feel you're reaching the freezer for forty ounce or thirty 2:39:52.640 --> 2:39:55.440 two ounce, whichever counts, you feel each bottle for the 2:39:55.520 --> 2:39:57.440 one that's cold. It's got to be cold when you're 2:39:57.480 --> 2:39:59.600 drinking no gold, but you might get the one that 2:40:00.280 --> 2:40:02.120 you gotta get it hot. That's all they've got a 2:40:02.240 --> 2:40:05.080 dollar thirty five. That is the price. That's not too much. 2:40:05.360 --> 2:40:07.240 If you want to get nice, you pay your money. 2:40:07.360 --> 2:40:09.720 Walk out the door. You say to yourself, I remember 2:40:09.800 --> 2:40:12.240 that store. You're looking around for a place to stem, 2:40:12.400 --> 2:40:14.960 and with a quarter old English inside your hand, you 2:40:15.080 --> 2:40:17.680 crack the cort. You put it to your lip, you 2:40:17.840 --> 2:40:20.080 tilt it slightly, and you take a ship now. And 2:40:20.200 --> 2:40:22.520 by now you should know the deal, because that one 2:40:22.720 --> 2:40:25.200 ship you already feel. You feel in bold. So you 2:40:25.320 --> 2:40:27.400 try to guzzle, and you do it again, because it 2:40:27.480 --> 2:40:31.280 ain't no puzzle. Sat this own English ride that they 2:40:31.400 --> 2:40:33.320 just said, we got this ride, and that's on than meal. 2:40:33.360 --> 2:40:35.520 When you drink braskemall get is how you feel. So 2:40:36.480 --> 2:40:38.160 I was drinking a case of forty is a day 2:40:38.200 --> 2:40:40.440 and I got a q pancreatitis I. 2:40:40.520 --> 2:40:41.039 Was going through. 2:40:41.640 --> 2:40:44.800 I didn't have no well. I guess this is a 2:40:44.840 --> 2:40:48.680 symptom of depression. I can't drink no more but then 2:40:48.760 --> 2:40:52.480 down when the king comes out. So when that elevation came, 2:40:52.560 --> 2:40:55.440 it pushed me further down. So I got to the 2:40:55.480 --> 2:40:58.080 point where I didn't want to live with this feeling 2:40:58.200 --> 2:41:00.760 in me right, so I said him, I kill myself. 2:41:00.879 --> 2:41:04.240 But before I go, I got records, I got videos. 2:41:04.320 --> 2:41:06.320 I think there's two books on us. I want to 2:41:06.600 --> 2:41:09.080 leave a book because I want people to know Daryl, 2:41:09.800 --> 2:41:12.080 the guy behind it, King of Rock. So I came 2:41:12.160 --> 2:41:14.520 up with the idea, just in case I kill myself tomorrow, 2:41:14.680 --> 2:41:16.080 I want to write a book and I'm gona go, Yo, 2:41:16.120 --> 2:41:19.240 what's up, world, I'm Darald McDaniels. You know me DMC 2:41:19.400 --> 2:41:21.760 from the groundbreaking rap group Run DMC first to Go 2:41:21.879 --> 2:41:23.560 Go First, to Go Platinum first, and a cover of 2:41:23.600 --> 2:41:24.440 Rolling Stone First. 2:41:24.320 --> 2:41:26.640 With the secret deals. Everything that hip hop is doing. 2:41:26.720 --> 2:41:28.959 They say it's because of me Running Jay, but I'm 2:41:29.000 --> 2:41:32.080 really just Daryl McDaniels, no different from any boiled girl 2:41:32.120 --> 2:41:33.680 on the face of the earth. I was born May 2:41:33.760 --> 2:41:37.560 thirty first, nineteen sixty four, and and I was like 2:41:38.120 --> 2:41:38.880 I was going to make that. 2:41:39.520 --> 2:41:41.600 I realized I didn't know no details about the day 2:41:41.720 --> 2:41:43.400 was going, so I called my mom's up. 2:41:43.640 --> 2:41:47.039 Now at this time, for anybody listening, I should have said, Mom, 2:41:47.280 --> 2:41:49.720 I want to kill like I should have let it out, 2:41:49.760 --> 2:41:52.600 but guilt, shame, not wanting to be vulnerable. Plus I'm 2:41:52.600 --> 2:41:54.200 a rap I gotta be cool, and I'm a black 2:41:54.240 --> 2:41:56.000 man and all that shit. And I don't want to 2:41:56.040 --> 2:41:58.640 bother on my mother with this stuff that I'll do 2:41:58.840 --> 2:42:01.120 it by myself. That's just the wrong thing to do. 2:42:01.720 --> 2:42:05.360 But I said, Mom, I'm writing this book, and just 2:42:05.440 --> 2:42:07.320 to make it more interesting for the reader, I want 2:42:07.360 --> 2:42:08.960 to know three things about the day was born. 2:42:09.240 --> 2:42:11.359 How much should I wait? What time? What hospital? 2:42:11.440 --> 2:42:13.240 So she tells me, I love you, I love you, 2:42:13.360 --> 2:42:15.520 so I love you to my hump. The phone, ourl 2:42:15.560 --> 2:42:17.240 goes by. She calls back with my father. 2:42:17.800 --> 2:42:20.400 At this point in my life, I'm an alcoholic suicide 2:42:20.440 --> 2:42:25.160 of metaphysical spiritual record's thinking of killing himself. Who can't 2:42:25.240 --> 2:42:27.080 drink no more? Because I wanted to drink to help 2:42:27.120 --> 2:42:29.320 me deal with emotions and stuff that I was feeling, 2:42:29.600 --> 2:42:31.280 so I could suppress those emotions. 2:42:31.760 --> 2:42:34.680 And the phone rings and my mother says, it's my 2:42:34.800 --> 2:42:37.520 mother and father. So I'm thirty five years old. Now 2:42:37.520 --> 2:42:40.000 I went the king is killing and I'm suicidal. We 2:42:40.200 --> 2:42:41.720 have something else to tell. 2:42:41.560 --> 2:42:43.800 You, So I'm thinking she's gonna go, Well, when you 2:42:43.920 --> 2:42:45.840 was born, there was a power outist in the hospital 2:42:45.879 --> 2:42:47.920 who gave birth to you by canadlelight. No, she hit 2:42:47.959 --> 2:42:49.880 me with this. We have something else to tell you. 2:42:49.959 --> 2:42:50.320 What is it? 2:42:50.879 --> 2:42:52.879 You was a month old when we brought you home, 2:42:52.920 --> 2:42:54.160 and you're adopted and we love. 2:42:54.080 --> 2:43:00.879 You by click that They didn't when she hung up 2:43:00.879 --> 2:43:02.000 the phone. Know my mother and father. 2:43:02.440 --> 2:43:04.880 Honey, honey, he's asking it is We gotta tell him 2:43:04.920 --> 2:43:06.160 right now, so they rushed the phone. 2:43:06.160 --> 2:43:07.520 You tell him, No, you tell I can see my 2:43:07.560 --> 2:43:09.720 mother yet you It was my fucker. When you take 2:43:09.760 --> 2:43:13.800 people by thirty five years old and you at a 2:43:13.920 --> 2:43:16.480 month old. I found out I was adopted at thirty five. 2:43:16.560 --> 2:43:18.080 Then I found out that I was a foster kid. 2:43:18.400 --> 2:43:20.440 So long story short, that made me really want to 2:43:20.520 --> 2:43:23.879 kill myself. Because of that revelation, I started drinking again. 2:43:24.640 --> 2:43:26.600 Now I'm not supposed to be drinking, and my wife 2:43:26.959 --> 2:43:30.000 love my wife, Surrey. She keeps it well. I say 2:43:30.360 --> 2:43:35.400 I'm drinking because making excuses. I'm drinking because I'm celebrating 2:43:35.600 --> 2:43:39.240 newfound part of my identity that I didn't know about. 2:43:39.400 --> 2:43:41.480 She looked me in my eye. I love women. 2:43:42.240 --> 2:43:43.119 Motherfucker. 2:43:43.480 --> 2:43:46.240 You fucking drinking because you can't handle the fact that 2:43:46.360 --> 2:43:49.360 you just found out that you was adopted, because think 2:43:49.400 --> 2:43:55.760 about my whole career. Christmas timing, don't stop doing my show. 2:43:57.320 --> 2:43:57.920 I was thirty. 2:43:57.959 --> 2:43:59.880 I found out that I was adopted when I was 2:44:00.040 --> 2:44:04.280 thirty five years old. Okay, and then the Dominican thing came. 2:44:04.680 --> 2:44:09.560 They called back, They called back Rain and this is fun. 2:44:10.080 --> 2:44:10.760 Are you okay? 2:44:11.160 --> 2:44:14.160 You know what I'm saying, because he just released and 2:44:14.560 --> 2:44:18.360 then they goes, well, all we know is your mother 2:44:18.640 --> 2:44:22.959 was in Hamilton Heights right up to above Washington Heights. 2:44:23.120 --> 2:44:27.800 Where who's in Washington Heights? And we think you're Dominicans. 2:44:29.000 --> 2:44:31.200 So this is my mother and father. I'm dealing with 2:44:31.360 --> 2:44:34.320 all this ancients in motion. They tell her I'm Dominican. 2:44:34.800 --> 2:44:37.440 So from that day for five years, I'm running around 2:44:37.480 --> 2:44:39.720 the world telling everybody I just found out that I'm 2:44:39.720 --> 2:44:42.480 adopted Dominican and the Dominicans. I love my wife for 2:44:42.959 --> 2:44:43.920 my wife's. 2:44:46.520 --> 2:44:46.560 Know. 2:44:46.879 --> 2:44:47.520 You want to know. 2:44:48.440 --> 2:44:49.000 I went out. 2:44:49.040 --> 2:44:53.920 There's a Dominican rapper, anybody knows name Alpha. It's a fake. 2:44:54.040 --> 2:45:02.959 No, no, he said, oh Meg, somebody tiego from Budemco's 2:45:03.000 --> 2:45:05.520 a Dominican rapper who's face. 2:45:05.640 --> 2:45:07.760 So I go out and buy all this Dominican rapmer. 2:45:08.920 --> 2:45:11.280 I'm going buy Dominican cook books. 2:45:12.240 --> 2:45:20.520 Yeah, yeah, Daddy, Yankee tells me, and I believe in her, say, 2:45:20.560 --> 2:45:20.960 I'll do it. 2:45:21.040 --> 2:45:24.720 You should be the grand Marshrew of the Dominican Parade. 2:45:25.480 --> 2:45:32.000 I'm going fall I'm telling Bill Adler, I'm telling Bill 2:45:32.280 --> 2:45:35.000 asked Bill, I'm calling him, telling him give me everything 2:45:35.080 --> 2:45:36.240 on Dominican art. 2:45:36.560 --> 2:45:38.480 That's Bill Ella and all of this. Suffen. 2:45:38.600 --> 2:45:41.560 I love my wife, my wife, Sorry, she the whole time, Darryl. 2:45:41.680 --> 2:45:43.680 Don't you think you should find out? 2:45:44.160 --> 2:45:44.200 No? 2:45:44.480 --> 2:45:46.760 No, my mother and fall Byford in bed they know what. 2:45:47.640 --> 2:45:49.600 So going on going on, going on on, So long 2:45:49.640 --> 2:45:52.000 story short, I do it, search and I find my 2:45:52.120 --> 2:45:55.760 birth mother. I grew up in Queens. She was in 2:45:55.840 --> 2:45:58.960 Stanton Island all the time. Wow, Just which is Craig 2:45:59.000 --> 2:46:00.640 Burrow kind of like right over? 2:46:00.720 --> 2:46:04.040 And the reason why she was in Hamilton Heights she 2:46:04.240 --> 2:46:06.240 was living in Hamilton Heights at the time she was 2:46:06.320 --> 2:46:08.960 pregnant with me. No, she was living in Hamilton Heights 2:46:09.040 --> 2:46:11.600 before she got pregnant with me. Her father moved the 2:46:11.680 --> 2:46:14.440 family to Stanton Island, but her boyfriend was there, so 2:46:14.600 --> 2:46:15.520 she would always leave. 2:46:15.440 --> 2:46:19.039 Stanton Island go back to Hamilton Heights to see her boyfriend. 2:46:19.280 --> 2:46:21.640 And the thing was, she was like eighteen years old. 2:46:21.720 --> 2:46:23.680 She was like, yo, don't fuck around and get pregnant. 2:46:24.240 --> 2:46:26.119 So she went around and got pregnant. 2:46:25.959 --> 2:46:28.840 With my first brother and in Normatti yet and they 2:46:28.840 --> 2:46:30.600 were say, yo, don't do the city. She got pregnant 2:46:30.640 --> 2:46:31.960 with me. When she came over with me, there was 2:46:32.040 --> 2:46:34.440 no way they could keep me, so they gave me up. 2:46:34.520 --> 2:46:37.280 So to answer you a question, so I figure, I 2:46:37.360 --> 2:46:39.680 see my birth bumping. I yeah, this is that boombering. 2:46:39.720 --> 2:46:42.880 It's good to meet you. And she I go, who's 2:46:42.920 --> 2:46:48.520 Dominican then? And I said, I'm Dominican, right. She says, no, 2:46:48.760 --> 2:46:55.640 who told you that Dominican? And I'm like, oh, because 2:46:56.360 --> 2:46:59.879 that the month before me My wife. 2:46:59.800 --> 2:47:03.040 Is a Dominican publication that I just ran into this 2:47:03.200 --> 2:47:06.879 guy walking down on Broadway by asked the place. 2:47:07.040 --> 2:47:10.000 And he was like, yo, DMC, you what we wanted 2:47:10.000 --> 2:47:11.800 a venue for hip hop? And I'm like yeah, yeah, 2:47:11.879 --> 2:47:16.120 and I'm Dominican too. I did a whole interview about 2:47:16.120 --> 2:47:19.480 being a Dominican, so my mama to be I had 2:47:19.520 --> 2:47:21.400 to call it the guy up. Yoh, yo. 2:47:21.520 --> 2:47:23.160 We got a problem. We got a big problem. We 2:47:23.240 --> 2:47:25.880 got a big problem was that I just found my birth. 2:47:25.959 --> 2:47:27.920 When I found out that I ain't Dominican, should have 2:47:28.000 --> 2:47:31.680 hurt his for Oh that's not good, bro y'all like 2:47:32.200 --> 2:47:34.360 that whole thing. But then we squared it up. 2:47:34.400 --> 2:47:37.039 But the cool thing about it was he got back 2:47:37.080 --> 2:47:39.279 on the phone and said, I told my whole audience 2:47:39.360 --> 2:47:41.280 and stuff like that video. But he said, no, you're 2:47:41.360 --> 2:47:43.520 down with us anyway, because you're DMC. You know what 2:47:43.520 --> 2:47:47.080 I'm saying. But I thought I was Dominican, nor because 2:47:47.160 --> 2:47:49.040 I found out at age thirty five that I was 2:47:49.120 --> 2:47:50.480 adopted and blew. 2:47:51.879 --> 2:47:55.519 And after me and my mother had those two conversations, 2:47:56.040 --> 2:47:58.880 the next thing that happened was this. The phone rang 2:47:59.040 --> 2:48:03.000 for a week because there's all my cousins that I 2:48:03.160 --> 2:48:06.879 grew up with who are now thirty five forty fish. 2:48:08.080 --> 2:48:10.800 No right, they're not my blood cousins. OK. 2:48:10.959 --> 2:48:14.280 These are family. I'm thanking and I'm one of them. 2:48:14.680 --> 2:48:17.440 They call and go, oh, dar, we're so glad your 2:48:17.480 --> 2:48:28.920 mother we helped that in for thirty five, Oh, Derek, Samantha, Eve, Craig, Sharon, Sonya, 2:48:29.480 --> 2:48:32.880 all of them when they Christmas in Hollish right in 2:48:33.000 --> 2:48:38.280 my in my house in Hollie Queen's. If it was Christmas, Thanksgiving, graduation, wedding, 2:48:38.440 --> 2:48:41.400 it was always at the McDaniel's family house. Everything my 2:48:41.480 --> 2:48:44.560 mount's putting on you. So my cousins reveal this to me, 2:48:45.680 --> 2:48:48.480 and I'm talking about since they were little, every time. 2:48:48.560 --> 2:48:50.960 We're going over to McDaniels for Thanksgiving, we're going over 2:48:51.000 --> 2:48:53.720 to McDaniels for Christmas, We're going over to McDaniels for 2:48:53.840 --> 2:48:56.200 the birthday. We're going on over McDaniels because such and 2:48:56.240 --> 2:49:00.760 such graduating kids, kids come to the room. Sit down, 2:49:00.920 --> 2:49:05.320 these kids for thirty five years. What's the rule when 2:49:05.360 --> 2:49:08.720 we go over to mister and mister McDaniels house. Nobody 2:49:08.800 --> 2:49:14.200 let Darryl know he's adopted. Oh my god, Oh my god, so, 2:49:14.480 --> 2:49:15.160 oh my yeah. 2:49:15.360 --> 2:49:17.960 Here, I'm getting ready to do a movie about not 2:49:18.080 --> 2:49:21.879 a biopic, you're ready to do a movie about that situation. 2:49:22.080 --> 2:49:24.600 And no, that's and to think the thing about it was, 2:49:24.680 --> 2:49:26.480 it's it's just just two things. When I met other 2:49:26.560 --> 2:49:27.280 adopted people. 2:49:29.120 --> 2:49:31.720 I love my parents for not telling me because they 2:49:31.760 --> 2:49:35.000 were afraid that it might do something. Because my brother 2:49:35.480 --> 2:49:39.120 who's there, biological Alfred, he says, what happened was my 2:49:39.200 --> 2:49:42.359 mother had other Forster kids that went back to the families, 2:49:42.360 --> 2:49:44.360 because I remember cousins that I had that I didn't 2:49:44.360 --> 2:49:46.720 see nowise we were growing up. Those were kids that 2:49:46.800 --> 2:49:50.440 went back, and my parents officially adopted me when I 2:49:50.600 --> 2:49:53.960 was five years old. But my brother Alfred said, we 2:49:54.080 --> 2:49:56.640 had this other kid, what was the same name as Oscar. 2:49:56.959 --> 2:49:58.959 I remember the day he left, and I just remember 2:49:59.040 --> 2:50:01.520 my brother's three. I think my brother was six, and 2:50:01.560 --> 2:50:04.039 I just remember my brother telling me because mother's here 2:50:04.080 --> 2:50:06.120 to get him, and I'm like, okay, my aunt's here 2:50:06.160 --> 2:50:07.640 to get Oscar. I'm gona see him next week. Never 2:50:07.680 --> 2:50:09.800 saw him again. Then there was other little girls and 2:50:09.840 --> 2:50:11.720 stuff like that. But my brother said this would happen 2:50:12.200 --> 2:50:14.600 and this is what's crazy about all the comic books 2:50:14.640 --> 2:50:16.080 and all the shit, and this has to do with 2:50:16.280 --> 2:50:20.760 rigs too. So every kid went back. And I'm in 2:50:20.840 --> 2:50:23.080 there playing with my toys in the porch and anest 2:50:23.160 --> 2:50:27.840 queens and my my mother. But dounthin Mather looks over 2:50:27.879 --> 2:50:31.240 at my father and this is funny. What are we 2:50:31.320 --> 2:50:33.280 gonna do with this one? It's like a you know, 2:50:33.520 --> 2:50:35.760 a pet. Take him back to the shelf. My father 2:50:35.879 --> 2:50:38.840 says this. My brother says, Oh, you know what, I 2:50:39.040 --> 2:50:42.360 think we all adopt this one because you never know 2:50:42.520 --> 2:50:44.720 he might grow up and do something that will change 2:50:44.760 --> 2:50:45.160 the world. 2:50:46.840 --> 2:50:48.720 So it's in front of you, you, in front of 2:50:48.760 --> 2:50:51.440 my brother. Oh okay, okay. Even though I'm little, he 2:50:51.640 --> 2:50:54.400 heard them say that, and then you know, he even 2:50:54.440 --> 2:50:56.800 called Daryn, I'm so glad Mama tell you that, because 2:50:57.000 --> 2:50:59.160 I didn't want you to find out on their deathbed, 2:50:59.240 --> 2:51:01.520 because a lot of time docs that don't get told. 2:51:01.560 --> 2:51:03.680 We cleaning out the house and I'm going, what's these papers? 2:51:04.080 --> 2:51:06.040 That would have been really crazy, So at least they 2:51:06.120 --> 2:51:08.680 got to get it out before they passed away. 2:51:09.080 --> 2:51:12.760 So my brother, what I was gonna say was his 2:51:13.040 --> 2:51:15.200 was crazy about all the superheroes. When I was growing up. 2:51:15.280 --> 2:51:17.600 The only people that I felt I could connect to 2:51:17.720 --> 2:51:20.760 what the superheroes and the comic books. And if you 2:51:20.840 --> 2:51:24.160 think about it, most superheroes are nerdy, geeky, awkward people 2:51:24.360 --> 2:51:27.680 struggling in their regular lives. But then rig Sent meet 2:51:27.800 --> 2:51:31.480 but they turned into these people when I met is 2:51:31.600 --> 2:51:35.039 spider Man often. I was just gonna say that, talk 2:51:35.080 --> 2:51:38.240 about Rix. So Riggs, we have this comic book meeting 2:51:38.280 --> 2:51:40.720 and we're doing that and boom ban Man. About two 2:51:40.840 --> 2:51:43.840 or three weeks later, Riggs discovers my adoption story theself. 2:51:43.920 --> 2:51:45.360 So I come back in the office and he's doing 2:51:45.440 --> 2:51:51.160 this and I'm like, hi, Rick, same way when they 2:51:51.240 --> 2:51:53.360 meant and he goes like this, Jo D, this is 2:51:53.480 --> 2:51:56.360 fucking crazy. And Rix says, Yo, D, you are really 2:51:56.480 --> 2:51:58.960 on some superhero shit. I was like, what are you 2:51:59.040 --> 2:51:59.600 talking about? 2:52:00.040 --> 2:52:00.360 Says Yo. 2:52:00.440 --> 2:52:03.400 Most superheroes are adopted or have a family issue, or 2:52:03.800 --> 2:52:06.880 Superman came from someone that. That's what my mother and 2:52:06.959 --> 2:52:09.720 father did. Clark, there's something we need to tell You're 2:52:09.760 --> 2:52:12.080 not really from We love you, but you're not what 2:52:12.360 --> 2:52:16.280 you have this thing, that's what that Spider Man from Queens. 2:52:16.320 --> 2:52:19.120 It had to be raised my aunt May Batman what 2:52:19.240 --> 2:52:22.720 happened seeing his parents get killed in front. So everybody 2:52:22.760 --> 2:52:26.360 has those issues. But all of that led to me 2:52:26.600 --> 2:52:28.840 when when I first met Rix, he goes, do you 2:52:28.920 --> 2:52:32.200 look my superhero? But going back to that, when I 2:52:32.320 --> 2:52:38.400 found my birth mother, she goes, I know you're dying 2:52:38.840 --> 2:52:40.120 to know why I gave you up. 2:52:40.200 --> 2:52:41.879 My birth mom is his name is bern Senia. 2:52:43.000 --> 2:52:47.440 My adopted parents thought I was actually Dominican because of 2:52:47.600 --> 2:52:50.440 the whole Washington House Hamilton Heights. But when they was 2:52:50.520 --> 2:52:55.520 doing the adoption transaction, they just remember they thought my 2:52:55.640 --> 2:53:00.840 mother's name was Bernarda, so Bernarda and Dominic in the area. 2:53:01.840 --> 2:53:04.199 That's what they thought about. My mother's name is Brincinia. 2:53:04.240 --> 2:53:06.879 But she says, I know you're dying to know why 2:53:06.879 --> 2:53:09.160 I gave you up. And I was like shit, Lady 2:53:09.200 --> 2:53:11.480 that said, I understand, and she hit me with this, 2:53:11.720 --> 2:53:14.760 I gave you up to give you a chance. So 2:53:15.000 --> 2:53:17.680 then all of this and went back to the void. 2:53:17.800 --> 2:53:21.039 When down went the King went back up. When down 2:53:21.080 --> 2:53:23.400 with the King went up, and I went into the depression, 2:53:24.320 --> 2:53:27.440 that was you know, it's like one of the gods 2:53:27.480 --> 2:53:30.760 just says, Mercury, fly down and revealed to him. 2:53:30.680 --> 2:53:31.520 Who he really is. 2:53:32.000 --> 2:53:35.160 When I went into the depression. It's same when I 2:53:35.360 --> 2:53:38.200 met my birthfather. She said, you was going through a 2:53:38.200 --> 2:53:41.400 depression right that time. Nineteen ninety three, Down went the King, 2:53:41.720 --> 2:53:44.560 she said, in nineteen ninety three, her secret that she 2:53:44.680 --> 2:53:47.720 knew she had given me up. Her best friend turns 2:53:47.840 --> 2:53:50.760 to her, No, her daughter turns to. 2:53:52.240 --> 2:53:57.000 My sister. Jeeta turns they're watching an adoption thing on TV. 2:53:57.480 --> 2:54:00.080 And my sister turns to my mother joking you, I 2:54:00.160 --> 2:54:02.640 have no secrets out there. My mother says, yes, I do. 2:54:03.600 --> 2:54:05.400 Geter goes what we gave this kissing so they never 2:54:05.480 --> 2:54:07.280 knew it was me. My brother I found out had 2:54:07.440 --> 2:54:09.960 a sister and two brothers. I didn't know about my 2:54:10.080 --> 2:54:12.320 older brother. Mark to this day. 2:54:12.560 --> 2:54:16.400 Looks like the eighty six DMC glasses goatey and this 2:54:16.520 --> 2:54:20.199 is gonna blow your mind, he draws. So his whole 2:54:20.320 --> 2:54:25.800 life from rock box to downwent the king, his whole life. 2:54:25.840 --> 2:54:29.160 He got this, Mark, Mark, come here that god DMC 2:54:29.280 --> 2:54:32.400 could be your brother. Eighty six Mark markham by eighty eight, 2:54:32.480 --> 2:54:34.440 I know, motherfucking DMC could be my brother. 2:54:34.760 --> 2:54:39.480 Come to find out DMC. How crazy is that? So? 2:54:39.800 --> 2:54:41.959 Yeah, I found out that I was adopted. I thought 2:54:42.000 --> 2:54:44.760 I was diminishing because I was trying to grasp on 2:54:45.160 --> 2:54:48.480 any identifying and understandable to. 2:54:48.520 --> 2:54:50.760 Fill the boys and all of this is how you 2:54:51.240 --> 2:54:54.520 segued into advocating for mental health. 2:54:54.760 --> 2:54:56.039 Yes, exactly. 2:54:56.320 --> 2:54:58.440 And can you talk about some of the stuff you're 2:54:58.440 --> 2:54:58.760 doing in that? 2:54:58.879 --> 2:54:59.039 Yeah? 2:54:59.120 --> 2:55:02.520 Yeah, So out of that that whole brought up this 2:55:02.720 --> 2:55:03.240 is just crazy. 2:55:03.320 --> 2:55:07.160 It didn't end it though, Alcoholic suicide and metaphysical wreck 2:55:07.480 --> 2:55:09.320 who just found out that he was adopted and was 2:55:09.400 --> 2:55:12.720 a forster kid. Jim I said, Jay, get shine help 2:55:15.840 --> 2:55:18.520 and then and then and there yet I remember my 2:55:18.640 --> 2:55:21.080 mother father. Three months later, my father died. I remember 2:55:21.160 --> 2:55:23.640 the night Jay died. My father goes, why would anybody 2:55:23.760 --> 2:55:26.199 want to kill Jay? This is such a then my father, 2:55:26.520 --> 2:55:29.320 so imagine what I was dealing with. But then I 2:55:29.400 --> 2:55:33.560 met another adopted person who said thee there's something that 2:55:33.800 --> 2:55:34.600 you need to do. 2:55:35.600 --> 2:55:37.880 I was like, what's that? And when I found out 2:55:37.920 --> 2:55:39.199 I was adopted, Remember. 2:55:38.920 --> 2:55:42.840 I had pancreatitis, I started drinking again and so I'm 2:55:42.920 --> 2:55:43.680 drinking and someff. 2:55:43.840 --> 2:55:46.480 But then somebody said, deep, you need to go to therapy. 2:55:47.480 --> 2:55:49.640 At first, I ain't going to no fucking therapy that 2:55:50.600 --> 2:55:52.840 and then I said, okay, fuck it with Tony Stark, 2:55:52.879 --> 2:55:54.199 so Peter Parker go to therapy. 2:55:54.879 --> 2:55:57.240 I had to depend on my coun So I went 2:55:57.280 --> 2:56:00.200 to therapy and I found out therapy it's really ooh. 2:56:01.320 --> 2:56:04.080 And I wasn't ashamed to talk about it because hip 2:56:04.120 --> 2:56:06.640 hop has taught me or keep it real. So how 2:56:06.879 --> 2:56:10.400 the work started was I go to therapy and in therapy, 2:56:10.800 --> 2:56:15.120 the therapist doesn't help you. Therapy helps you. The therapist 2:56:15.200 --> 2:56:17.119 doesn't help you. So a lot of people don't want 2:56:17.280 --> 2:56:19.560 to do. No, you gotta go because the therapist is 2:56:19.680 --> 2:56:22.520 just a decoy to do two things for you, because 2:56:22.560 --> 2:56:25.280 you haven't done it with yourself. Two things happen. 2:56:25.920 --> 2:56:30.360 You say stuff to yourself that you said before but 2:56:30.480 --> 2:56:36.080 you didn't listen to. Or you say stuff that you 2:56:36.360 --> 2:56:39.600 need to hear. You say to yourself but you don't 2:56:39.600 --> 2:56:41.200 want to say it to you in the mirror. That's 2:56:41.320 --> 2:56:44.240 hard facing yourself, so you face So I went to therapy. 2:56:44.280 --> 2:56:45.920 It's cool, I got clean and sob. 2:56:45.800 --> 2:56:46.520 And whatever whatever. 2:56:47.120 --> 2:56:49.920 So when I get out of therapy. The reason why 2:56:50.000 --> 2:56:54.800 this book happened and the reason why home I do 2:56:54.959 --> 2:56:58.040 what I do is for a very funny reason. My 2:56:58.200 --> 2:57:05.280 partner Run during that time had Runs House, very successful show. 2:57:05.480 --> 2:57:08.960 Ten seasons of it was in the bathtob of the BlackBerry. 2:57:09.280 --> 2:57:09.680 Remember that. 2:57:10.120 --> 2:57:13.560 So the first season people would watch it and they know, 2:57:14.080 --> 2:57:16.879 I know at the inn finale, DMC is gonna show up. 2:57:17.800 --> 2:57:20.440 I didn't show up season one. I know this shit. 2:57:20.760 --> 2:57:23.280 I didn't show up the three. So after I get 2:57:23.320 --> 2:57:26.720 our therapy and rehab, I get this question, Norri, everywhere 2:57:26.720 --> 2:57:29.760 I go, why you ain't on Runs House? 2:57:29.879 --> 2:57:32.480 What's the beef the whole social media shit, and that's 2:57:32.480 --> 2:57:35.240 in that they GMC's pouring and cared Russell and run 2:57:35.320 --> 2:57:36.400 got Bentley's and this and that. 2:57:37.320 --> 2:57:39.199 No, no, no, the reason why I run. 2:57:39.160 --> 2:57:42.320 DMC ain't together is because Jay's dead out about that. 2:57:43.720 --> 2:57:47.320 We can't replace our fucking drama. Oh I forgot about that? 2:57:47.520 --> 2:57:50.160 So where you been DMC and me? Keeping it real? 2:57:51.480 --> 2:57:53.720 I go, well, I was gonna kill my I tell 2:57:53.959 --> 2:57:56.800 people this, but I just told you so. These people 2:57:56.840 --> 2:58:00.480 are coming at me on the celebrity DMC shit. They 2:58:00.560 --> 2:58:02.920 see the mighty king of rock who walked his way 2:58:02.959 --> 2:58:05.680 in as Adidas while telling the world how tricky life 2:58:05.720 --> 2:58:06.000 could be. 2:58:06.760 --> 2:58:09.880 But now I'm saying, you know, I was gonna kill myself. 2:58:09.920 --> 2:58:12.640 I was alcoholic and everybody was going twelve I want 2:58:12.680 --> 2:58:15.320 to say the forty, twelve forty, and then two things, 2:58:15.600 --> 2:58:18.400 twelve fucking forties. Yet over the phone, yere this and that. 2:58:18.760 --> 2:58:21.520 But every time I would do that E I would 2:58:21.560 --> 2:58:25.920 get this reaction. These people would stop, look around like 2:58:26.040 --> 2:58:28.039 the CIA was around, and. 2:58:28.080 --> 2:58:31.520 They would whisper to me, I've never told anybody this, 2:58:31.760 --> 2:58:36.640 d me to wow. Now they're telling they didn't tell that. 2:58:36.800 --> 2:58:40.840 Workers family, They struggling like ours. But because I'm damn 2:58:41.000 --> 2:58:45.000 c adda my ada, and I just revealed at them. 2:58:45.320 --> 2:58:45.880 Now they're safe. 2:58:45.920 --> 2:58:47.560 They would tell me, but this isn't when that hurt me, 2:58:47.680 --> 2:58:50.520 This is what got me working. If it wasn't them, 2:58:50.600 --> 2:58:53.960 they would look around, and this is what stigma exists. 2:58:54.640 --> 2:58:57.120 People are guilty and shame and afraid. But this is 2:58:57.160 --> 2:58:59.320 the one that I hate the most. They were looking 2:58:59.320 --> 2:58:59.760 around and. 2:58:59.800 --> 2:59:02.320 If they didn't say me too, they would go I've 2:59:02.440 --> 2:59:06.800 never told anybody this, but my mother, my daughter, my father. 2:59:07.000 --> 2:59:09.240 So that hit me up. You mean, for the last 2:59:09.360 --> 2:59:13.960 eight ish your daughter's home smoking meth and struggling, and 2:59:14.120 --> 2:59:16.760 you're worried about how people going to think about you 2:59:17.040 --> 2:59:19.600 for having that daughter. So I said, let me get 2:59:19.640 --> 2:59:23.480 more vocal about So I just started going to wherever 2:59:23.560 --> 2:59:25.640 I was invited. Once people on my story, I was sharp, 2:59:25.680 --> 2:59:28.240 and I'd tell my story. I would go to high schools, 2:59:28.240 --> 2:59:29.600 I would go to middle schools. I would go to 2:59:29.640 --> 2:59:31.600 group homes. I would go to Forster Care Agency. I 2:59:31.640 --> 2:59:34.680 would go to hospitals. I would go to fire departments. 2:59:35.400 --> 2:59:37.440 I would go to police since because a lot of 2:59:37.520 --> 2:59:41.440 police are having mental issues across the board. Every time 2:59:41.600 --> 2:59:46.560 I talked, I realized what this world has been preparing 2:59:46.680 --> 2:59:49.480 me for through the hip hop the King of Rock. 2:59:49.560 --> 2:59:51.200 Shit was just to set up for what I was 2:59:51.320 --> 2:59:52.240 really put here to do. 2:59:52.879 --> 2:59:56.080 I found out that I'm a billion times more powerful 2:59:56.600 --> 2:59:59.560 telling people when shit isn't going good for me. My 2:59:59.640 --> 3:00:02.280 whole care read was Christmas Tim Hollis Queen's I'm the 3:00:02.320 --> 3:00:05.320 Devastating This and I always reported to y'all my goodness, 3:00:05.360 --> 3:00:08.400 and it was very inspiring. It's even more inspiring when 3:00:08.400 --> 3:00:11.720 I met that a vulnerable, scared, afraid, weak and confused, 3:00:11.879 --> 3:00:15.400 because then those people go, you know what, I'm gonna 3:00:15.440 --> 3:00:18.200 go get help to you. So that that's why I 3:00:18.320 --> 3:00:21.720 do it. Because of my joke is because of Pete 3:00:21.800 --> 3:00:24.640 rocking Down went the King. I talk about mental health 3:00:24.640 --> 3:00:25.760 because that was a catalyst. 3:00:26.800 --> 3:00:27.400 You know what I'm saying. 3:00:28.080 --> 3:00:31.120 Because in eighty eight, if y'all remember and from No. 3:00:31.320 --> 3:00:35.720 Eighty nine we put out a flop album. We put 3:00:35.760 --> 3:00:38.640 out a flop album called Back from Hell. Y'all don't 3:00:38.680 --> 3:00:40.920 remember it. I don't remember that. You remember the ad? 3:00:42.879 --> 3:00:46.160 No? Do you remember pause when he's doing nw Jack swinging? 3:00:49.840 --> 3:00:52.720 That was part of my depression. I talk about his book. 3:00:53.760 --> 3:00:56.040 Jay was flying, he was doing that. So Jay had 3:00:56.160 --> 3:00:58.480 us doing these new jack swing records and then pause 3:00:58.560 --> 3:01:00.240 was good. People say, oh, that was good and this 3:01:00.320 --> 3:01:02.600 and that. I didn't want to do it, but I 3:01:02.680 --> 3:01:06.600 did it to please then, and it made me drink 3:01:07.120 --> 3:01:09.680 because when Jay said let's do now, there's nothing wrong 3:01:09.720 --> 3:01:13.000 with nu jack swing and all of that shit, I 3:01:13.160 --> 3:01:15.680 just don't like it. Right, This wasn't I don't want 3:01:15.680 --> 3:01:18.320 to rap over that shit. But when I was in therapy, 3:01:18.600 --> 3:01:22.960 my therapist said, motherfucker you. I was diagnosed with suppressed emotions. 3:01:23.440 --> 3:01:25.680 All the drinking I was doing is was because I 3:01:25.760 --> 3:01:27.920 didn't want to tell people the truth. 3:01:27.760 --> 3:01:29.920 About I don't want to do that record. I don't 3:01:29.959 --> 3:01:31.600 want to go to there. I did so much people 3:01:31.680 --> 3:01:34.720 pleasing that I was suppressing with the alcohol. 3:01:34.959 --> 3:01:39.120 So when I got out of rehab, my when I 3:01:39.200 --> 3:01:41.040 got into rehab just happened to me. 3:01:41.320 --> 3:01:45.040 My therapist was I was, what thirty six, so my 3:01:45.200 --> 3:01:48.400 therapist probably was like forty six, forty eight white guy. 3:01:49.080 --> 3:01:51.800 It's a white doctor thing and a clipboard. So he 3:01:51.920 --> 3:01:55.520 comes in for my first therapy session in rehabit and 3:01:55.600 --> 3:01:58.280 he sits down and he says, Darryl during your career. 3:01:58.360 --> 3:02:02.119 Referend DMC that runs Russell or anybody at the record 3:02:02.160 --> 3:02:06.000 company do anything to get you upset. And I'm said, 3:02:06.520 --> 3:02:10.160 and I lie no, And you know, he's said he's 3:02:10.160 --> 3:02:11.920 the doctor, and he got his glasses and I go no. 3:02:12.040 --> 3:02:14.400 He looks up at me and glasses and he does this, 3:02:17.840 --> 3:02:21.320 alasses all start some button in the white cloak. So 3:02:21.360 --> 3:02:24.360 I'm sitting there with just my fucker gonna hear some shit. 3:02:24.480 --> 3:02:27.040 And he sits down and it's crazy. He had I 3:02:27.080 --> 3:02:28.440 weigh him all the time. He had on an AC 3:02:28.560 --> 3:02:30.920 DC shirt. I guess he did that to break the ice. 3:02:31.000 --> 3:02:32.320 He sat there and he looked at me and E 3:02:32.680 --> 3:02:37.480 and he sent you a goddamn mother fucking liar. And 3:02:37.600 --> 3:02:40.120 when he said that to me, yeah, man in nineteen 3:02:40.160 --> 3:02:43.880 eighty three, must nineteen eighty So I started the man 3:02:44.240 --> 3:02:46.840 Russell did this. I started remember everything profile of you. 3:02:47.000 --> 3:02:47.840 It all poured out of me. 3:02:47.920 --> 3:02:50.360 So when I got out of rehab, this is funny, 3:02:50.959 --> 3:02:51.600 he says to me. 3:02:51.720 --> 3:02:56.080 From now on, D be hip hop, keep it real, 3:02:56.680 --> 3:02:58.680 always tell the truth. And he said it might have 3:02:59.480 --> 3:03:02.040 it might have set some people. They might not like 3:03:02.120 --> 3:03:04.280 you for that moment, but they'll fucking get over it. 3:03:04.440 --> 3:03:06.480 But I also got to be ready to receive it 3:03:06.800 --> 3:03:08.720 to when they do it. But then he says this, 3:03:08.840 --> 3:03:14.640 He says, from now on, speak your truth, Tell the truth, 3:03:15.200 --> 3:03:20.560 no matter what right, and I go. Even if my 3:03:20.760 --> 3:03:25.959 wife asked me if she's sat in this true story. 3:03:26.000 --> 3:03:29.760 Not that one, she all this says out there, this 3:03:29.879 --> 3:03:35.520 is life for not that one. But now you ask 3:03:35.600 --> 3:03:40.480 me my opinion, I give it true truth. I don't 3:03:40.520 --> 3:03:42.680 even want to say truth. Such a free he just said, 3:03:42.760 --> 3:03:46.840 from now on. My manager Eric hates me. Sometimes they're 3:03:46.840 --> 3:03:49.000 going to give you five hundred thousand dollars. 3:03:49.360 --> 3:03:51.000 Who is it? What is it doing with it? 3:03:51.120 --> 3:03:51.160 For? 3:03:51.320 --> 3:03:53.720 I don't like it? Nope, he think I'm crazy. But 3:03:53.879 --> 3:03:56.920 I'd rather make a hundred thousand dollars five times and 3:03:57.040 --> 3:04:01.080 take to five hundred thousand dollars. I'd rather one hundred 3:04:01.120 --> 3:04:04.360 and fifty dollars do the math to get to I'd 3:04:04.440 --> 3:04:09.680 rather make a hundred dollars a thousand, ten thousand times 3:04:09.720 --> 3:04:12.320 to get the million than taking the million foot And 3:04:12.440 --> 3:04:14.400 that's what I was doing my whole career and the 3:04:14.480 --> 3:04:16.320 reason why I bring up the Back from Hell album. 3:04:16.320 --> 3:04:17.400 If you listen to Back from. 3:04:17.280 --> 3:04:20.160 Hell album, The only guy that knew something was going 3:04:20.240 --> 3:04:23.760 wrong artistically run with front of C was Dante Ross. 3:04:24.800 --> 3:04:28.480 But you know what, when we put back from Hell 3:04:28.520 --> 3:04:31.720 Out and Paus out, he was that motherfucker must have 3:04:31.760 --> 3:04:32.360 been in therapy. 3:04:32.440 --> 3:04:37.040 That motherfucker. What the fuck is running deep see doing 3:04:37.160 --> 3:04:41.520 new jack Fish's bullshit like he went him? No, he 3:04:41.640 --> 3:04:42.680 Kevin real, Kevin real. 3:04:42.959 --> 3:04:46.000 But that's what I should have did, and it could 3:04:46.040 --> 3:04:49.240 have went like this, Yo, Then y'all do the records, y'all. 3:04:49.480 --> 3:04:51.640 Ud you know, I have no problem, only want to 3:04:51.680 --> 3:04:53.080 be on the record in the first place I was 3:04:53.080 --> 3:04:55.680 gonna be, so I'm already there. But then the whole 3:04:55.800 --> 3:04:59.520 thing was I mean, when I lost my voice. Russell 3:04:59.560 --> 3:05:01.680 even told one day and day, but you gotta show up. 3:05:01.720 --> 3:05:05.080 The motherfuckers ain't buying Run. They buying Run DMC. So 3:05:05.200 --> 3:05:07.920 you're standing there, shut up. I did millions of show 3:05:07.920 --> 3:05:12.360 when I couldn't rhyme. Imagine that, and you was lip syncing, well, 3:05:12.800 --> 3:05:15.440 Jay was playing the vocals and rhyming over with me. 3:05:16.040 --> 3:05:18.600 So in course of the moment, people don't know, but 3:05:19.320 --> 3:05:22.640 that went on for probably like maybe two and a 3:05:22.720 --> 3:05:26.039 half years maybe, so imagine how I felt. And then 3:05:26.080 --> 3:05:28.640 I even realized those are part of the suicidal thoughts. 3:05:28.840 --> 3:05:30.880 I talk about it in the book I can't. I'm 3:05:31.000 --> 3:05:32.920 thinking I was only put here to rhyme. 3:05:33.440 --> 3:05:38.000 So if you keep superpower, the superhero lose the superpower. 3:05:38.120 --> 3:05:42.080 What happens, But then you realize who you really are. 3:05:42.720 --> 3:05:45.280 I didn't have to go get to operation for my voice. 3:05:46.080 --> 3:05:47.920 It just came back. I was hanging with Chuck d 3:05:48.040 --> 3:05:53.520 one day and it's like that superhero. I started glowing 3:05:53.600 --> 3:05:58.600 and ship like it was. You didn't get an operation nothing, 3:05:58.720 --> 3:06:01.119 So you're just sitting there with Chuck. But well, well 3:06:01.200 --> 3:06:05.039 too to the mental health thing is it's all very mental. 3:06:05.320 --> 3:06:10.000 When I was in therapy, my therapist said, don't let 3:06:10.200 --> 3:06:14.600 nothing define you or your situations or your operations. And 3:06:14.640 --> 3:06:15.800 I was like, what do you mean, how do you 3:06:15.879 --> 3:06:16.080 do that? 3:06:16.480 --> 3:06:18.960 She said, you've been doing it your whole life, and 3:06:19.080 --> 3:06:21.160 I never knew this. She said, she brought up to 3:06:21.520 --> 3:06:23.800 where lives can be never singing. The good news is 3:06:23.840 --> 3:06:25.560 that there is a crew. It's about time for a 3:06:25.640 --> 3:06:28.440 brand new group. All other things won't be the same. 3:06:28.680 --> 3:06:31.720 But then she said, don't you know all of your 3:06:31.760 --> 3:06:35.000 most powerful lyrics, like the one that you got just 3:06:35.160 --> 3:06:37.959 ended with you start with this is crazy. And now 3:06:38.040 --> 3:06:40.360 I'm not religious. I think religious to bide. I think 3:06:40.440 --> 3:06:42.920 politics the bid. The arts is the only thing that 3:06:43.040 --> 3:06:45.480 succeeds where politics and religion fails. 3:06:46.000 --> 3:06:51.000 Politics and religion fails us. I agree, I'm saying it, yeah, Religi, yes, 3:06:51.240 --> 3:06:55.760 you holy motherfuckers. That shit fails us. But the arts 3:06:56.280 --> 3:06:59.320 succeeds where politics and religion fail. But she said to 3:06:59.400 --> 3:07:01.320 me this, She said, don't you know most of your 3:07:01.400 --> 3:07:06.640 powerful rhymes start with the two words I am. I'm DMC, 3:07:07.160 --> 3:07:09.800 I'm the son of byfriend, I'm the king of rock, 3:07:09.879 --> 3:07:13.080 I'm the devastating my control of d MC. All my 3:07:13.280 --> 3:07:16.720 i ams manifested into them. I was imperfect. I didn't 3:07:16.800 --> 3:07:17.880 need nothing else. 3:07:18.200 --> 3:07:21.560 But when I forgot about that and I went I 3:07:21.640 --> 3:07:25.400 went to a bunch of voice doctors. One doctor told me, 3:07:25.879 --> 3:07:28.800 and this is before I knew it was mental, there's 3:07:28.959 --> 3:07:30.680 nothing physically wrong with you. 3:07:30.680 --> 3:07:32.920 Your voice is a little red, your throat is a 3:07:32.959 --> 3:07:36.000 little red. Because you're out there every night pushing it. 3:07:36.200 --> 3:07:38.040 Nothing's coming out. You know. 3:07:38.480 --> 3:07:42.760 Obama had wrote a book, and in the book he said, 3:07:43.400 --> 3:07:47.680 your voice isn't how you sound, your voice is who 3:07:47.760 --> 3:07:51.640 you are. So when I found when I'm adopted, Oh 3:07:51.720 --> 3:07:57.840 there's my birth mother screwing the missing pop pop. 3:07:58.040 --> 3:08:01.280 It was all mental was full to Vni Sigul because 3:08:01.280 --> 3:08:04.680 he lost his voice. I haven't spoken to I knew 3:08:05.360 --> 3:08:08.160 what's his name, the DC. He was in a car, 3:08:09.000 --> 3:08:09.400 but I was. 3:08:09.680 --> 3:08:13.960 I was diagnosed with the thing called spasmodic dysphonia, which 3:08:14.040 --> 3:08:18.280 is involuntary spasms of your vocal cord. But my crazy 3:08:18.400 --> 3:08:20.959 diagnosis was you even have one or the other. 3:08:21.120 --> 3:08:25.800 It's abductor or ad doctor like in the gym, they 3:08:25.840 --> 3:08:28.760 have an abductor machine for your length and added the 3:08:29.320 --> 3:08:34.240 doctor diagnosed me with both of them, and then I 3:08:34.240 --> 3:08:37.040 would They gave me the botox shot with the needle. 3:08:37.320 --> 3:08:38.720 The needles about this long. 3:08:39.640 --> 3:08:42.280 I went to Mount Sign and they put both tooks 3:08:42.360 --> 3:08:46.880 in your vocal cords to stop the electric impulses from 3:08:46.920 --> 3:08:49.120 your brain getting there. So they did it to me 3:08:49.200 --> 3:08:51.840 and I passed out and it was like here for 3:08:51.920 --> 3:08:54.200 the number of days that the voice number came back 3:08:54.320 --> 3:08:58.160 until I found my birth It's crazy. So now I 3:08:58.240 --> 3:09:03.760 think what's healing me is therapy is addressing your issues 3:09:04.480 --> 3:09:05.240 because when I. 3:09:05.320 --> 3:09:08.000 Speak, wonders like DMC, I ain't got no money. Like you, 3:09:08.120 --> 3:09:09.440 I can't afford a therapist. 3:09:09.920 --> 3:09:12.560 So what do you tell somebody struggling with an emotion 3:09:13.200 --> 3:09:18.879 or condition, suicidal whatever whatever? I say, Sometimes you don't 3:09:18.920 --> 3:09:22.000 need money for therapy. I say, in your darkest hour, 3:09:22.640 --> 3:09:25.800 when even if you can't smile, there's somebody that you 3:09:25.959 --> 3:09:30.560 think about that brings a smile to your spirit. That's 3:09:30.640 --> 3:09:32.560 the person you go to and do what people was 3:09:32.600 --> 3:09:34.039 doing to me. But I had to get it out 3:09:34.080 --> 3:09:35.880 of you go to I said, it might be you 3:09:35.959 --> 3:09:37.480 know how you grew up in the neighborhood, and you 3:09:37.600 --> 3:09:41.640 love mister Hooper who runs the store, and I've known 3:09:41.720 --> 3:09:43.680 you sent you or the barber that cut your hand. 3:09:44.120 --> 3:09:45.760 Those are the people you go up to here and say, yo, 3:09:45.840 --> 3:09:48.000 I've never told anybody you got to integrat storing like 3:09:48.040 --> 3:09:50.160 this so they understand when it's coming. 3:09:50.440 --> 3:09:53.840 I've never told anybody this. But I want to kill myself. 3:09:54.600 --> 3:09:55.640 There's nothing wrong. 3:09:55.720 --> 3:09:58.960 And when I speak, there's nothing wrong with a person 3:09:59.200 --> 3:10:03.360 saying they feel like killing themselves. And what you mean 3:10:03.400 --> 3:10:04.760 it's a no, no, no, it's not a good thing, 3:10:05.080 --> 3:10:08.640 but it's nothing wrong with it. For instance, if it's 3:10:08.760 --> 3:10:11.600 hot in here, could I tell you not to feel 3:10:11.680 --> 3:10:14.400 hot if it's a hundred degrees in there? 3:10:14.440 --> 3:10:17.440 Can I tell you not if it's cold outside, Can 3:10:17.520 --> 3:10:19.400 I tell you go out there nor it's Timblau and 3:10:19.520 --> 3:10:21.880 not feel cold? No? Can I tell you not to 3:10:21.959 --> 3:10:26.080 feel hungry? So I'm realizing it's a feeling that they 3:10:26.160 --> 3:10:28.120 have what you have to do when your approach with 3:10:28.200 --> 3:10:31.920 that sit down with the person. And even if it's chemical, 3:10:32.440 --> 3:10:35.760 there's a catalyst, a who, what, when, where and why 3:10:36.280 --> 3:10:37.720 that causes that feeling. 3:10:38.400 --> 3:10:40.720 Find out who, what, when or why it's doing it. 3:10:41.120 --> 3:10:44.600 And here remove my strength of not drinking again. And 3:10:44.680 --> 3:10:47.000 I went to rehab. And when I was in rehab, 3:10:47.040 --> 3:10:49.720 I was in there for thirty days. Oh, I was 3:10:49.800 --> 3:10:52.200 going to do this at Leo's thing, But I get that. 3:10:52.360 --> 3:10:54.480 Don't need you to speak. Just come on stage with me. 3:10:56.480 --> 3:10:59.640 For the fuck out of kot prepare. The whole fuck 3:10:59.720 --> 3:11:01.800 is about your ass. 3:11:01.959 --> 3:11:05.240 I ain't got nothing to do with this fucking music. Pullshit, 3:11:06.040 --> 3:11:08.680 I got you. You can't get it. You know, think 3:11:08.720 --> 3:11:11.520 you forgot because he's telling he's calling Eric and wanted 3:11:11.560 --> 3:11:11.920 me to come. 3:11:11.959 --> 3:11:13.320 And I'm getting back. I gotta speak. 3:11:13.320 --> 3:11:15.960 I speak about him and Kathy, and you'll be in 3:11:16.040 --> 3:11:17.480 my role I get that. I don't need you to 3:11:17.560 --> 3:11:18.520 speak this coming. See. 3:11:20.400 --> 3:11:22.320 I went hit in the back, you know, because I 3:11:22.360 --> 3:11:25.160 don't like to be here. But I gotta come in 3:11:25.320 --> 3:11:28.840 Leon because Leo is part of the people that saved 3:11:28.879 --> 3:11:32.160 my life. Because when I was going through this, Leo 3:11:32.320 --> 3:11:35.240 actually paid for my rehab for me to go to. 3:11:35.280 --> 3:11:37.279 The Rihow darylstricky. 3:11:37.320 --> 3:11:38.280 He can't fucking die. 3:11:38.360 --> 3:11:41.920 We can't have Daryl died. And it was Kathy. I 3:11:42.000 --> 3:11:47.480 love Kathy sime oneas I was disappointed she wasn't in 3:11:47.760 --> 3:11:52.480 l a leor fuck is up with that? Well, okay, 3:11:53.080 --> 3:11:53.640 it was blood. 3:11:54.280 --> 3:11:57.000 So Kathy went to Leo and Leo was I paid 3:11:57.040 --> 3:12:01.120 for Daryl go to fucking meet. I went to fucking 3:12:02.000 --> 3:12:03.880 so I gotta come in and I tell Leo it 3:12:04.000 --> 3:12:06.840 wasn't because of this music shit. I was gonna need you. 3:12:06.959 --> 3:12:09.240 At a die. The reason why we met was much 3:12:09.440 --> 3:12:11.960 deeper in this music shit. But it's cut that to 3:12:12.040 --> 3:12:14.080 hip hop brought us together. So I got out of 3:12:14.160 --> 3:12:15.240 rehabit now I go. 3:12:15.440 --> 3:12:17.720 I did a book called Darryl's Dream, which is a 3:12:17.800 --> 3:12:20.520 story about me in third grade getting teased, bullied, and 3:12:20.560 --> 3:12:23.640 picked on because I want to save my poem and 3:12:23.800 --> 3:12:25.720 other kids don't think it's cool. But then I save 3:12:25.800 --> 3:12:27.800 my poem, I get a standing ovation. Now all the 3:12:27.840 --> 3:12:30.440 motherfucking kids want me to teach them how to say bowdream. 3:12:30.640 --> 3:12:32.960 All of a sudden, my cool, just like Nori. All 3:12:33.000 --> 3:12:35.080 the motherfucks that was coming in, motherfucker run. All the 3:12:35.160 --> 3:12:38.200 bullies in the hard rocks, Oh, now you want to 3:12:38.240 --> 3:12:39.000 be my friend? 3:12:39.160 --> 3:12:42.680 Mother. They ain't even waving at me. Now you know 3:12:42.720 --> 3:12:44.800 what I'm saying. You know, motherfucker that took my sneakers 3:12:44.879 --> 3:12:47.960 over there, and the motherfuckers snapped here. You made me Rhyn. 3:12:48.080 --> 3:12:50.000 Now all the hard rocks want to be but it's 3:12:50.080 --> 3:12:51.160 the same stories. 3:12:51.440 --> 3:12:56.720 Okay, So now you know, every year since my childhood, 3:12:57.040 --> 3:13:00.440 it doesn't feel like this holiday unless I hear this record, right, 3:13:00.920 --> 3:13:04.760 and I will also give it to Mariah Carry as well. 3:13:05.280 --> 3:13:07.480 Every year. So let me ask you, every year at 3:13:07.520 --> 3:13:10.039 Christmas time, we're cooler because it's hip hop. Yeah yeah, 3:13:10.320 --> 3:13:15.240 yeah platinum every year Christmas time. No, because all the 3:13:15.360 --> 3:13:20.760 money goes to the special Olympics, Pubblish shit, hel all 3:13:20.840 --> 3:13:23.080 the money was trying to be good niggas back then. No, 3:13:23.360 --> 3:13:26.000 we didn't want to do that shit either. No, No, 3:13:26.320 --> 3:13:28.800 let me tell you another. 3:13:29.360 --> 3:13:31.520 We didn't want to do that ship when they approached us. 3:13:31.680 --> 3:13:34.879 When they want you to know, that's corny fake. There 3:13:34.879 --> 3:13:38.240 ain't gonna be no Christmas wrapping elves like we thought 3:13:38.240 --> 3:13:41.039 it was gonna be corny shit. No, we didn't want 3:13:41.080 --> 3:13:43.320 to do it. It's for the special Olympics. Let them 3:13:43.360 --> 3:13:47.840 find somebody else. Bill Adler shout out to Bill Adler. 3:13:48.920 --> 3:13:51.200 He comes to it. Y'all could do what y'all want 3:13:51.240 --> 3:13:51.400 to do. 3:13:52.080 --> 3:13:58.280 He Bill comes and plays us the music, the back 3:13:58.360 --> 3:13:59.440 Door Santa sample. 3:13:59.680 --> 3:14:01.880 Because at first meet Me and Run wasn't gonna do it. 3:14:01.959 --> 3:14:03.439 But when we heard don't. 3:14:06.280 --> 3:14:08.280 We could do that shit give me a pinion. So 3:14:08.440 --> 3:14:10.120 Me and Run we went and wrote our rhymes. But 3:14:10.680 --> 3:14:13.040 every year we don't see no money from that. 3:14:13.160 --> 3:14:17.320 That's all wow. Start to end. Well, let me just 3:14:17.440 --> 3:14:20.160 tell you do this. If I don't hear that record, 3:14:20.480 --> 3:14:23.440 it's not no. Here's where we are with that. And 3:14:23.560 --> 3:14:26.160 this is so cool about hip hop. This was about 3:14:26.480 --> 3:14:27.240 four years ago. 3:14:29.000 --> 3:14:30.720 I don't know if it was a journalist or is 3:14:30.760 --> 3:14:32.920 doing an interview or whatever they said. 3:14:33.480 --> 3:14:34.760 Who would have thought. 3:14:36.160 --> 3:14:41.640 In the existence of this universe that hip hop would 3:14:41.840 --> 3:14:46.959 do something, would continue to do something phenomenal. After all 3:14:46.959 --> 3:14:49.840 the phenomenal stuff that is done. That's why I believe 3:14:49.879 --> 3:14:52.760 this fifty years of hip hop, yall, we just getting started. 3:14:53.440 --> 3:14:56.560 Still got more to do, innovation, creativity. We got Hollywood 3:14:56.600 --> 3:14:59.000 to take over now and conquer different stories. 3:14:59.080 --> 3:14:59.560 So much to do. 3:15:00.040 --> 3:15:03.880 They said, Christmas used to be Justice Laurie, the black 3:15:03.959 --> 3:15:08.560 guy Nat King Cole singing just not roasting on an 3:15:08.600 --> 3:15:11.879 opening fire right all. The white guy Ben Crosby actually 3:15:11.959 --> 3:15:19.000 singing I'm dreamy. Remember that's Christmas who in a million 3:15:19.160 --> 3:15:22.119 years said that's just going to change. Now they say, 3:15:22.640 --> 3:15:25.360 for the rest of the existence of this universe, it's 3:15:26.080 --> 3:15:30.480 Nat King Cole, Ben Crosby and run MCS Christmas in Hollis. 3:15:32.280 --> 3:15:36.720 That's guy that me my mom. I was like, whoa 3:15:37.680 --> 3:15:40.760 you mean? I'm like Curry Cuomo now. But it's but 3:15:41.480 --> 3:15:42.480 it's a hip hop shit. 3:15:42.520 --> 3:15:43.000 We don't. 3:15:44.520 --> 3:15:46.840 Like you know what I'm saying. That's a huge achievement, 3:15:47.000 --> 3:15:49.560 even the Rockawall Hall of Fame. I want people to 3:15:49.640 --> 3:15:52.879 understand something. People always go, d you don't know who 3:15:52.920 --> 3:15:55.640 you are. I do know I am, But that's why 3:15:55.720 --> 3:15:57.080 I have to wring that out of it. You know, 3:15:57.560 --> 3:16:00.520 I don't want free shit, this and that, but I 3:16:00.560 --> 3:16:02.400 don't want appreciate this this in that point the Rock 3:16:02.400 --> 3:16:04.840 and Roll Hall of Fame. Y'all got to understand something. 3:16:05.200 --> 3:16:10.440 We did the video about us being denied entry into 3:16:10.520 --> 3:16:13.320 the place that don't exist. Now when we're allowed to 3:16:13.360 --> 3:16:17.120 get any motherfucker's man. Jeane Simmons, all these mother fucus 3:16:17.240 --> 3:16:22.959 is mad. Jane yeah from kids, Yeah, he was mad. 3:16:23.200 --> 3:16:24.959 He respects us now. 3:16:25.920 --> 3:16:26.000 But. 3:16:27.920 --> 3:16:30.400 Well he was making it hating the point that we 3:16:30.520 --> 3:16:34.240 don't play instruments, so is denied entry into the rock 3:16:34.320 --> 3:16:35.680 roll of Fame. My thing is this. 3:16:35.800 --> 3:16:41.400 You gotta understand. I think this is my most valuable award, 3:16:41.520 --> 3:16:47.160 and let me tell you why, because it's from people. 3:16:47.640 --> 3:16:50.360 Yeah right that my genre and my culture this and that. 3:16:50.640 --> 3:16:53.920 But the Rock Roll of Fame is cool, but me 3:16:54.160 --> 3:16:56.160 having the trophy is not great as this. 3:16:56.879 --> 3:17:00.720 I don't want people to understand this my victory, our victory, 3:17:01.360 --> 3:17:05.280 anybody's victory, but more importantly hip hop's victory. Let them 3:17:05.320 --> 3:17:07.800 all bicker and beef and have the criticism that they 3:17:07.879 --> 3:17:11.720 say that first of all, the blues is the roots, motherfucker. 3:17:12.000 --> 3:17:13.360 Everything else is the fruits. 3:17:13.480 --> 3:17:13.920 Number one. 3:17:14.080 --> 3:17:16.520 They got it from all the black blues, all this music, 3:17:17.320 --> 3:17:21.040 alternative hip hop, the black blues artists. And if you 3:17:21.160 --> 3:17:25.840 sit down with Keith Richard's, sit down with Vick Jaggers, 3:17:25.879 --> 3:17:28.080 sit down with Steven Tyler Aerosmith, you sit down with 3:17:28.280 --> 3:17:29.879 Eric Clapton, you got white people. 3:17:29.920 --> 3:17:32.360 And when you talk about rock music, they mentioned the 3:17:32.440 --> 3:17:35.800 blues artists, which is why all of these artists and 3:17:35.920 --> 3:17:38.240 hip hop should know who the fuck supoon these is 3:17:39.120 --> 3:17:41.640 a jazz motherfucker knows who's Miles Davison culture. 3:17:42.160 --> 3:17:47.120 But our victory is this Nori and E. The trophy's cool, 3:17:47.560 --> 3:17:50.640 but I already won when I was just considered. Worry 3:17:50.840 --> 3:17:54.800 enough for the nomination because that tells you your work 3:17:54.920 --> 3:17:57.760 is done. So we're looking for it just to be considered. 3:17:57.800 --> 3:17:59.240 Where don't you got to take her home? But you 3:18:00.360 --> 3:18:04.080 that's your victory. So they can say it's not a genre, 3:18:04.280 --> 3:18:07.119 this and that. When we had walked to Sway in Adidas, 3:18:07.560 --> 3:18:11.040 we do press conferences. Excuse me, run DNJ, Where do 3:18:11.120 --> 3:18:12.960 you think you'll be in three years? They thought we 3:18:13.120 --> 3:18:14.840 was a fat, they thought we was old. You know 3:18:14.879 --> 3:18:17.560 what I'm saying, So it ain't about what other people think, 3:18:17.640 --> 3:18:18.600 It's about what you know. 3:18:19.560 --> 3:18:23.520 You know, a great philosopher once said, I don't fuck 3:18:23.560 --> 3:18:28.480 with people that's talking say I believe, I believe. I believe, 3:18:28.520 --> 3:18:31.879 you don't hear. And that's what's really crazy about religion. 3:18:32.920 --> 3:18:34.960 You believe that shit. You could believe. What the fuck 3:18:35.040 --> 3:18:38.160 you want? One person, I believe it, this is it. 3:18:38.240 --> 3:18:41.040 I believed it. No, no, no, do you know when 3:18:41.080 --> 3:18:43.680 I speak, I see, I know that I know this. 3:18:44.240 --> 3:18:46.160 I know I know. How do you know? 3:18:46.360 --> 3:18:50.280 Because I experience it? And y'all calling me legendary. I 3:18:50.320 --> 3:18:52.520 got hit with this about a couple of months ago. 3:18:53.240 --> 3:18:55.720 I forgot what I was watching and they saying, you know, 3:18:55.920 --> 3:19:01.280 one person isn't legendary. The people calling legendary don't mean 3:19:01.640 --> 3:19:05.440 don't know that. They're part of the legend because they 3:19:05.480 --> 3:19:08.840 were there. It's not about who, it's about who experienced 3:19:08.879 --> 3:19:09.160 it all. 3:19:09.760 --> 3:19:12.440 The person that's calling me a lego, gmory, you a 3:19:12.560 --> 3:19:18.000 fucking legend, they're talking to themselves. The guy said, a 3:19:18.200 --> 3:19:22.600 legend means the people who were there to experience the 3:19:22.800 --> 3:19:28.720 legend of Billy the Kid. It only exists because the saloon. 3:19:28.440 --> 3:19:31.480 Guy saw it and passed it. 3:19:31.879 --> 3:19:34.400 The original term of that word is passing on that 3:19:34.520 --> 3:19:35.800 story from someone who saw it. 3:19:38.000 --> 3:19:42.560 So I always say we are reluctant. 3:19:43.840 --> 3:19:47.520 And since it's the fiftieth year of hip hop, it 3:19:47.600 --> 3:19:52.360 should be demanded that we talk about the pioneers before 3:19:52.800 --> 3:19:53.960 recorded rap. 3:19:54.720 --> 3:19:58.720 And he mentioned the need to be talked about Hollywood. 3:19:59.040 --> 3:20:03.400 You're coming out of there, Reich, DJ Hollywood, all of them. Okay, 3:20:03.720 --> 3:20:06.760 DJ Hollywood, are you so Hollywood? Yeah, we're out of 3:20:06.840 --> 3:20:10.640 Hollywood when we come. We don't need no more. I 3:20:10.840 --> 3:20:12.960 was a drug dealer, now I'm a rapper. Story. I 3:20:13.040 --> 3:20:14.560 was a gangbinger and a rapper. 3:20:15.000 --> 3:20:21.200 Think about this story from seventy four to seventy I 3:20:21.320 --> 3:20:26.960 mean from seventy one to seventy four. There are so 3:20:27.120 --> 3:20:31.879 many stories of our people. And okay, they were DJing 3:20:31.959 --> 3:20:36.160 and breakdancing and doing graffiti. What was happening economically? What 3:20:36.400 --> 3:20:37.560 was happening politically? 3:20:37.680 --> 3:20:38.280 What was happening? 3:20:38.400 --> 3:20:41.080 We gotta go into Hollywood now and tell all of 3:20:41.160 --> 3:20:42.840 the stories. You know what I'm saying. 3:20:43.200 --> 3:20:46.800 And hip hop is fifty years old now we're just 3:20:46.920 --> 3:20:50.560 getting started. We gotta dominate the airways, we gotta dominate 3:20:50.640 --> 3:20:54.400 the screen, we gotta dominate literature. Now we can start 3:20:54.560 --> 3:20:57.640 telling all the other stories that need to be heard. 3:20:57.920 --> 3:21:00.480 Or else they're going to get lost. Let me ask you, 3:21:00.560 --> 3:21:03.080 because you was saying this earlier. One of the first 3:21:03.120 --> 3:21:05.680 people to have a sneaker endorsement, You guys have a 3:21:05.720 --> 3:21:09.840 stock in Adidas. I think Eric said he's working on 3:21:09.920 --> 3:21:10.760 that for us right now. 3:21:11.040 --> 3:21:11.720 That needs. 3:21:13.360 --> 3:21:16.600 Adidas need to you know, I mean because like you 3:21:16.720 --> 3:21:19.280 were saying it earlier. You know, curls, no braids, pis 3:21:19.320 --> 3:21:21.560 he heads still get paid. I'm one of the good 3:21:21.640 --> 3:21:25.320 reasons why yezies can get made. I'm about to ask 3:21:25.360 --> 3:21:32.320 you to get he really just does not need to 3:21:32.400 --> 3:21:35.600 write to check. He gave him promotion in market and 3:21:35.680 --> 3:21:43.119 we solidified them. See, we took them to lifestyle in fashion. 3:21:43.200 --> 3:21:46.360 They were just forcing them for what made job? What 3:21:46.440 --> 3:21:48.320 made job? Because, like you were saying earlier, you was 3:21:48.400 --> 3:21:50.160 like everyone was wearing Pulmas at the time. 3:21:50.440 --> 3:21:53.840 What major was an economic decision to select Adidas? 3:21:53.959 --> 3:21:54.880 What do you mean economic? 3:21:54.959 --> 3:22:00.520 You mean like right now, no Pumas was dope and 3:22:00.640 --> 3:22:02.760 that Pumas and Adidas is connected. Do you know the 3:22:02.840 --> 3:22:06.000 story two brothers of the Dalcin then had an argument, 3:22:06.120 --> 3:22:07.879 Fuck you, I'm gonna go start my own company, went 3:22:07.879 --> 3:22:10.960 and started Pumas. He left the fist up. So Pumas 3:22:11.000 --> 3:22:14.040 Adidas were simultaneously come up in New York City. But 3:22:14.160 --> 3:22:19.600 here's the problem. Persuade Pumas. Somebody step on and you fucked, 3:22:20.800 --> 3:22:21.760 uterrain fucked. 3:22:22.120 --> 3:22:25.680 The leather ones were cool, lasted a little longer than 3:22:25.720 --> 3:22:28.160 the suede ones, but they would bend and they would 3:22:28.160 --> 3:22:28.880 start to crack. 3:22:29.840 --> 3:22:32.280 This is an economic decision. Do I spend my thirty 3:22:32.320 --> 3:22:35.720 five dollars on the pumas somebody step on in the ring, 3:22:36.040 --> 3:22:37.760 or do I get to shelter that all I need 3:22:37.840 --> 3:22:39.840 to do? Why do you think I carry rags at 3:22:39.840 --> 3:22:40.880 the end of the night when I get back to 3:22:40.959 --> 3:22:42.880 my room, I just went it and wipe it off. 3:22:42.959 --> 3:22:45.240 His look brand new. It was the economic descent. They're 3:22:45.280 --> 3:22:47.520 more durable. I didn't know I was going to get 3:22:47.520 --> 3:22:50.240 a sneaker deal. So my first pair of Adidas. I 3:22:50.320 --> 3:22:53.640 don't play ball, so Mosco last three years. So it 3:22:53.720 --> 3:22:55.320 was an economic decision that we did. 3:22:55.360 --> 3:22:58.200 In Betas. The shoelaces thing came out because of this 3:22:58.879 --> 3:23:00.680 hold on. I figure the shoel thing. Let me ask 3:23:00.720 --> 3:23:03.959 you this one thing. Have you ever owned a pair 3:23:04.000 --> 3:23:10.920 of Nikes? Yeah? Recently two thousand. 3:23:14.879 --> 3:23:16.279 And Nelly and put out. 3:23:18.320 --> 3:23:22.240 Air Force You mean to tell me that you Yeah, 3:23:22.320 --> 3:23:24.640 what year was that? Well, it's Nelly and jay Z 3:23:24.840 --> 3:23:25.480 because jay Z. 3:23:25.680 --> 3:23:30.360 Was infamous for rocking the the for swimming, right, what 3:23:30.520 --> 3:23:33.920 year was that? So here's the story. I'm in New 3:23:34.040 --> 3:23:38.439 York City, the foot locker on Broadway by the McDonald 3:23:40.280 --> 3:23:44.920 ash to place McDonald's Broadway before Houston. 3:23:45.680 --> 3:23:48.600 There's a foot locker right. 3:23:48.520 --> 3:23:52.000 By McDonald's were profile records used to. So I forgot 3:23:52.080 --> 3:23:55.560 I was going to an interview. This was like two thousand. 3:23:58.640 --> 3:24:01.920 It was when Nelly and when air Force ones was popping. 3:24:02.320 --> 3:24:03.520 So I go in the foot locker. 3:24:03.640 --> 3:24:06.480 I got on a blue T shirt, I got on 3:24:06.640 --> 3:24:09.880 blue Levis, and I got on white on white Adidas. 3:24:10.440 --> 3:24:13.200 So in my crazy mind, I need Adidas with the 3:24:13.240 --> 3:24:16.240 blue stripe. I ain't right. And I had a new 3:24:16.720 --> 3:24:20.440 white on white white superst with the white side. But 3:24:20.840 --> 3:24:24.600 I'm very old CD. It was hurting me. So I 3:24:24.720 --> 3:24:27.480 go in the foot locker on Broadway and I go 3:24:27.640 --> 3:24:32.519 in there. Yeo, I looked everywhere. I need the white Superstars. 3:24:32.760 --> 3:24:35.880 I thirteen with the blue stripe, go on the back. 3:24:37.240 --> 3:24:39.840 We don't got them? Did you do twelve? No? Twelve 3:24:39.959 --> 3:24:43.400 hurt my feet. So over there on the podium, I 3:24:43.520 --> 3:24:46.000 told this story. I had Adidas basically do. Over there 3:24:46.040 --> 3:24:50.560 on the podium is an air Force one spinning with 3:24:50.720 --> 3:24:53.800 a blue stripe and it got lights around it. It's 3:24:53.959 --> 3:25:02.600 a true story. So I look give me those hmm stopping. 3:25:02.680 --> 3:25:05.760 Everyone's like, no, no, because you know why because the 3:25:05.879 --> 3:25:06.720 workers were young. 3:25:06.959 --> 3:25:09.320 Okay, so they didn't get it. Okay, who the fuck 3:25:09.400 --> 3:25:13.160 I am? You know what I'm saying. Manager was young too. 3:25:14.080 --> 3:25:15.119 You know, I walk in foot. 3:25:15.200 --> 3:25:17.280 I could think everybody gonna know, but like a lot 3:25:17.320 --> 3:25:18.520 of times, if they're young. 3:25:18.400 --> 3:25:20.040 They don't know. So I put them on. 3:25:20.280 --> 3:25:22.480 I walk out the door and I'm walking down. I said, 3:25:22.480 --> 3:25:28.320 I'm walking a garbage truck. True story. What's up with 3:25:28.400 --> 3:25:34.760 the fuck? And that's what the driver says. I keep 3:25:34.840 --> 3:25:38.400 walking right. I get to the corner Broadway and Fourth 3:25:38.440 --> 3:25:40.160 Street where Tower Records used to be. 3:25:42.040 --> 3:25:45.960 The bus driver boo d man, Come on, man, that's wrong. 3:25:46.040 --> 3:25:50.600 Whatever you doing. I get to the corner of Broadway 3:25:50.760 --> 3:25:56.920 house police officers standing there. I come over and one 3:25:57.879 --> 3:25:59.400 guess he probably was Puerto Rican. 3:25:59.480 --> 3:26:01.520 Dude. You I'm saying, you know, they standing there, and 3:26:01.680 --> 3:26:06.000 be it comes up to It'll be able again. He didn't. 3:26:06.240 --> 3:26:08.960 He was like, yo, man, what are you doing? Why 3:26:09.040 --> 3:26:14.440 you got a niks around? I walked back. 3:26:14.520 --> 3:26:15.240 I want to tell you this. 3:26:16.400 --> 3:26:20.440 I walked back to the foot lock because you gotta 3:26:20.480 --> 3:26:22.760 understand I left the white on white send there, okay, 3:26:22.920 --> 3:26:26.360 ain't one on one, yo, take these sneakers. Give me 3:26:26.440 --> 3:26:28.120 my white on once. Do you want your money? Know 3:26:28.400 --> 3:26:31.400 you can give them this summery never will attempt to 3:26:31.480 --> 3:26:34.760 put on anything else because the people won't let me do. 3:26:34.920 --> 3:26:38.080 That is such a dope story. That is like in 3:26:38.160 --> 3:26:42.160 the b Boy, bush Driver, garbage man and police go 3:26:42.320 --> 3:26:47.160 on for that. I can't win else. I'm married to 3:26:47.280 --> 3:26:51.360 the motherfuckers for life. So they really got and and 3:26:51.480 --> 3:26:54.160 you don't pay for Adidas at this When was the 3:26:54.240 --> 3:26:56.520 last time you paid for a pair of Didas about 3:26:56.560 --> 3:27:01.400 a week ago? Because you just rush yeah, yeah, called 3:27:01.640 --> 3:27:03.680 up no, I don't want to go FLA and they 3:27:03.760 --> 3:27:05.440 tell me no, don't do it. But you know I 3:27:06.600 --> 3:27:08.880 get them because I want them. So if you had 3:27:08.920 --> 3:27:15.600 to pick Adidas right now, Parrals or all Easy Superstars, 3:27:17.720 --> 3:27:18.879 well you ain't with either one of the. 3:27:22.320 --> 3:27:25.480 I'm not ins like people say running your ce created 3:27:25.560 --> 3:27:28.240 the sneaker. It was a culture that already exists, but 3:27:28.400 --> 3:27:32.680 Adidas created it. Everybody told the convention writes about it. 3:27:33.040 --> 3:27:36.800 It started then, it was there, but we identified it. 3:27:37.200 --> 3:27:41.760 Okay, So if I'm dressing one run dmc attire and 3:27:42.360 --> 3:27:46.200 I have on the Swist suit. But I go to 3:27:46.280 --> 3:27:53.080 the store and it's only Stan Smith's there. Does that 3:27:53.160 --> 3:27:59.400 complete my mom? No, you gotta you gotta go find 3:27:59.400 --> 3:28:03.440 a super star if you got to swis Okay. We 3:28:03.640 --> 3:28:05.279 was in the Stan Smith documentary. 3:28:05.280 --> 3:28:07.520 I hang with Stan Smith all the time, and even 3:28:07.600 --> 3:28:09.840 Stan Smith said, run you have seen he's a lifetime 3:28:09.920 --> 3:28:10.840 deal if he got one. 3:28:10.920 --> 3:28:12.080 He said that Wow. 3:28:12.400 --> 3:28:15.119 But the Stan Smith's you gotta go watch the Stan 3:28:15.240 --> 3:28:16.279 Smith document. 3:28:15.959 --> 3:28:18.119 How definitely I'm I'm watching it. I get his credit. 3:28:18.360 --> 3:28:21.160 He had to interview us and it Stan Smith is 3:28:21.360 --> 3:28:27.560 more of the the casual. It doesn't represent what the 3:28:28.000 --> 3:28:33.760 superstar represents with the sweatshirt tennis player. Correct, yes, exactly. No, 3:28:33.840 --> 3:28:37.080 he can't put the stand smiff. That's that's like wearing 3:28:37.200 --> 3:28:42.560 slippers the grocery store. Yes, it's wrong. He said. It's 3:28:42.560 --> 3:28:47.560 Miami people. They slip the grocery store. Notice. Everybody was like, 3:28:47.560 --> 3:28:56.040 wait a minute, the motherfucker isn't wearing cracks now, No, 3:28:56.240 --> 3:28:58.879 but to stand Smith, it doesn't complete. It doesn't mean 3:28:59.200 --> 3:29:01.240 you could do it. You can put your idea with 3:29:01.360 --> 3:29:05.039 Sain Smith, but it's not that thing. Okay, So you've 3:29:05.120 --> 3:29:09.240 never wore any other athletic uh again Arl? Yeah, I 3:29:09.360 --> 3:29:12.720 mean I could tell you. I think the year Jay died. 3:29:14.320 --> 3:29:17.720 What's Awful Awfl's last name, Eric Awful who used to 3:29:17.840 --> 3:29:19.560 work for yeah, Orval Hall. 3:29:19.480 --> 3:29:21.840 Used to work for Adidas. When he left Adidas. He 3:29:22.040 --> 3:29:25.240 was member of the Cocksport Teeth. Yeah yeah, they still popping. 3:29:25.760 --> 3:29:29.439 Oh really, I got the pictures of me doing the alligator, 3:29:29.720 --> 3:29:32.480 but the peacock okay, yeah, yeah, yeah I did. I 3:29:32.600 --> 3:29:36.320 did with the roost. That's across the allegation the rooster. 3:29:37.000 --> 3:29:41.600 I was repping the cox sportise for like three months when. 3:29:41.480 --> 3:29:48.120 You playing it, when he was right after that, right 3:29:48.200 --> 3:29:49.920 after that. But I did it for my friend and 3:29:50.000 --> 3:29:52.280 stuff like that. But then it didn't feel right. It's 3:29:52.280 --> 3:29:54.920 in awable, I can't you know. I did it for 3:29:55.120 --> 3:29:57.080 him so he could get to check and ship like that, but. 3:29:58.560 --> 3:30:00.400 This didn't feel It's just what me with and on 3:30:00.480 --> 3:30:01.640 and so. 3:30:01.800 --> 3:30:04.000 I didn't like he I did the Cocksports team. Oh 3:30:05.000 --> 3:30:11.240 oh shoot, yeah, damn Back from Hell. We was wearing ewings. 3:30:11.800 --> 3:30:13.360 I'm about to ask you about it. On the car. 3:30:13.800 --> 3:30:17.160 We wore ewings for like a whole fucking year. That's 3:30:17.200 --> 3:30:20.880 when we wore ewings when Ewan was sweating at the bowline. Yeah, 3:30:21.160 --> 3:30:24.080 we wore ewings when the Ewins first came out, And yeah, 3:30:24.200 --> 3:30:28.240 we want they on cover. That's crazy. I'm I'm so happy. 3:30:28.280 --> 3:30:31.360 You know, people don't know anything. Y'all know your assual 3:30:31.400 --> 3:30:33.280 y'all know about Back from Hell and your abb No, no, 3:30:33.920 --> 3:30:36.080 let's just keep it. Yes on that album. We got 3:30:36.160 --> 3:30:40.760 on fucking we got on the fucking Ewings three on 3:30:40.800 --> 3:30:43.280 the back. Yeah, we was walking draft first game. But 3:30:43.480 --> 3:30:46.039 see that kind of gets to pass because that's when 3:30:46.080 --> 3:30:49.080 you and left Adidas started his own sneaker, so it's 3:30:49.160 --> 3:30:51.360 kind of still in the same family. So it was 3:30:51.440 --> 3:30:53.440 more of a New York thing. But that was wrong too. 3:30:54.440 --> 3:30:57.280 My wife always told me she hated them seekers, and 3:30:58.879 --> 3:31:01.080 my wife was funny, she I'm gonna be Tenue, but 3:31:01.160 --> 3:31:04.440 the fucking Adida's hard. I'm like, no, I'm doing this 3:31:04.560 --> 3:31:08.280 for Jay and Patrick Ewing. That's funny. Me wearing Humans 3:31:08.400 --> 3:31:11.360 was part of my depression. I know, I didn't want to. 3:31:11.320 --> 3:31:12.880 Wear them, but Jay was like, Yo, we're gonna be 3:31:12.959 --> 3:31:15.400 a flying and we was. 3:31:15.440 --> 3:31:21.120 Wearing April wears. Again, we were wearing a Jay wearing 3:31:21.160 --> 3:31:23.560 April Walker apparel and ship like that. Like, but I 3:31:23.600 --> 3:31:26.119 should have said that ship is cool for me walk. 3:31:26.000 --> 3:31:28.560 Away like you know everybody was, man, I didn't want 3:31:28.600 --> 3:31:31.000 to wear that shit, wear my fucking souper. That was 3:31:31.040 --> 3:31:34.480 during Down with the King era, I remember, right, yeah exactly. 3:31:34.640 --> 3:31:37.680 But like, I know, there's a Biggie Smallest line where 3:31:37.720 --> 3:31:39.160 it says, you know you have to think that hip 3:31:39.160 --> 3:31:41.120 hop and make it this far, like did you ever 3:31:41.200 --> 3:31:45.080 think like? Because honestly, like, I'm born in seventy seven. 3:31:45.400 --> 3:31:49.200 I can't remember where Adidas is not related to you guys. 3:31:49.520 --> 3:31:52.720 I like, I I'm born in seventy seven, forty six 3:31:52.800 --> 3:31:54.520 years old. Some people call me an old man, right, 3:31:54.920 --> 3:31:57.039 But what I'm trying to tell you is I can't 3:31:57.080 --> 3:32:01.480 remember a time where Adidas wasn't attached to run DMC, 3:32:01.920 --> 3:32:04.880 you know, at all. So to me, it's like anonymous 3:32:05.120 --> 3:32:08.400 yeah yeah to me. To me, whenever I see somebody 3:32:08.480 --> 3:32:14.080 where the suit run, like, I'm not thinking Adidas no, 3:32:14.560 --> 3:32:17.680 like I think, Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Pip 3:32:17.720 --> 3:32:21.240 hop for sure, exactly for sure. Yeah you know what 3:32:21.280 --> 3:32:23.840 I'm saying. I think that's what I've made to my 3:32:24.080 --> 3:32:28.360 Adidas told my your are our Idias. All the mother 3:32:28.440 --> 3:32:29.960 shis is yours. These are my that. 3:32:30.160 --> 3:32:33.520 Oh look at all and every fashion design and every Harlem, 3:32:33.640 --> 3:32:36.720 I mean every fashion week. All you have to do 3:32:36.840 --> 3:32:40.840 is put on the run DM track suit with the 3:32:40.840 --> 3:32:42.600 Adidas and walk down and run ring. 3:32:43.120 --> 3:32:45.240 It never gets all. You put on a leather blazer 3:32:45.280 --> 3:32:47.520 with the leather pants like golf and walk down and 3:32:47.600 --> 3:32:51.720 right right. It's not true? Is it true that that 3:32:52.000 --> 3:32:53.920 you guys were trying to do a deal with Adidas. 3:32:54.120 --> 3:32:57.320 But then you guys had a show of Madison Square 3:32:57.360 --> 3:33:00.400 Garden and I believe you are run and told me 3:33:00.480 --> 3:33:02.039 take it off, and they held it, take it off 3:33:02.040 --> 3:33:04.600 and held it up. What had happened was they didn't 3:33:04.680 --> 3:33:09.320 understand wild. Yeah, they didn't understand. They're checking the weekly 3:33:09.600 --> 3:33:14.280 sales of product and the shelter was in the closet, 3:33:14.720 --> 3:33:18.000 in the back of the closet, but they couldn't understand 3:33:18.200 --> 3:33:19.960 why was out selling everything? 3:33:20.680 --> 3:33:22.960 And you know how they do the grass, They didn't 3:33:23.000 --> 3:33:25.680 have enough room on the wall do the progression of 3:33:25.760 --> 3:33:28.560 the girl for the sailing and sneaker. So word has 3:33:28.640 --> 3:33:30.480 it that there was an intern there. 3:33:31.959 --> 3:33:32.720 Dudes, you don't know. 3:33:33.000 --> 3:33:35.879 Run DMC made a hip hop song about. 3:33:35.640 --> 3:33:38.440 Your sneakers, So didas is the holdor helo? Look? Come? 3:33:39.160 --> 3:33:41.480 What the hell is a run DMC? And what the 3:33:41.560 --> 3:33:43.800 hell is hip hop? So the dude was like, oh, 3:33:43.879 --> 3:33:46.320 this code it is the shoot. Now you know how 3:33:46.840 --> 3:33:48.240 exactly it's this true? JB. 3:33:48.440 --> 3:33:50.480 This this must be true. So they sent the spy. 3:33:52.120 --> 3:33:55.760 His name was Angelo Anastasio. It was the head guy 3:33:56.000 --> 3:33:58.520 of Adidas America. Like they have a head dude over 3:33:58.879 --> 3:34:02.880 out in La So he calls the office Snooper and 3:34:02.920 --> 3:34:04.560 you know, I want to come to the Rundem Sea show. 3:34:04.640 --> 3:34:07.000 Can I get some tickets? Come the show? So he 3:34:07.120 --> 3:34:10.279 comes to the show. It's the Raising Hell and Madison 3:34:10.320 --> 3:34:13.879 Square Garden. We seven records and runs. Run says, take 3:34:13.959 --> 3:34:16.880 it off, mee, I take it off, hold it up, 3:34:16.959 --> 3:34:19.720 I hold it up twenty nine thousand. I think, what's 3:34:19.720 --> 3:34:23.640 the capacity to guard twenty nine thousand people who hold up. 3:34:23.600 --> 3:34:27.320 The brand new Adidas? And you know, looks goes running. 3:34:27.480 --> 3:34:32.200 It's you no Instagram, no twists, yep and no said yeah, 3:34:32.400 --> 3:34:33.720 they give us a million dollar deal. 3:34:33.800 --> 3:34:40.000 We got that. Yeah. That we put out the Cadillacs, 3:34:40.040 --> 3:34:42.960 El Dorado and the fleet was it was the first time, 3:34:43.080 --> 3:34:45.240 in addition to the run DM Sea Show Toe, it 3:34:45.400 --> 3:34:47.400 was the first time in the history of the company 3:34:47.680 --> 3:34:51.000 that they changed the color of the box because. 3:34:50.720 --> 3:34:52.600 The box was always like blue. When we put out 3:34:52.640 --> 3:34:57.680 the Eldorado, Fleetwood and the the Felder Lot of Fleetwood 3:34:57.959 --> 3:35:02.240 in the Sedannahville, they made the black box all black 3:35:02.280 --> 3:35:02.640 box with. 3:35:02.680 --> 3:35:05.120 The rendym C logo. Was the first time in the 3:35:05.200 --> 3:35:11.160 history of the country company. So game changing. We changed fashion, 3:35:11.360 --> 3:35:17.720 we change marketing, we change advertising, we change music. Like 3:35:17.840 --> 3:35:21.200 they changed the culture completely. What's left for you to do? 3:35:23.080 --> 3:35:24.959 Change Hollywood? That's my next mission. 3:35:25.000 --> 3:35:27.560 I don't want to everybody. I get calls all the 3:35:27.760 --> 3:35:30.959 fucking time about p I don't want to be an actor, 3:35:31.560 --> 3:35:32.680 you know what I'm saying. I don't want to. I 3:35:32.760 --> 3:35:33.960 want to get behind the camera. 3:35:34.360 --> 3:35:36.640 I want to sign. I want to sign. 3:35:36.720 --> 3:35:38.960 I want to. I want us to stop telling the 3:35:39.080 --> 3:35:41.680 same stories. Hip hop has a habit that's telling the 3:35:41.720 --> 3:35:45.119 same stories, but Hollywood does too. They just tell Cinderella 3:35:45.160 --> 3:35:47.680 over and over and over and over. There's news, there's 3:35:47.760 --> 3:35:52.480 this new princesses and kings and adventures and entrepreneurs and. 3:35:53.280 --> 3:35:58.920 School lasst education, educational situations to tell. So what I 3:35:59.080 --> 3:36:01.039 want to do in my pos this and especially since 3:36:01.080 --> 3:36:05.160 I'm here, I could have condmmenced suicide. I'm not shot 3:36:05.280 --> 3:36:08.440 in OD. I didn't kill myself. I ain't get shot. 3:36:08.680 --> 3:36:11.080 So I feel that I have a responsibility. So what's 3:36:11.160 --> 3:36:14.040 left for me to do is take this and make 3:36:14.160 --> 3:36:18.840 this cartoons in live action films, just like my idol 3:36:18.920 --> 3:36:21.320 Spider Man and the Hawk and stuff like that. So 3:36:21.400 --> 3:36:23.400 it's fifty years of hip hop, were just getting started. 3:36:23.440 --> 3:36:26.519 We have a lot of we have a lot of creativity. 3:36:26.840 --> 3:36:28.680 So I want to be part just like I was 3:36:28.800 --> 3:36:31.360 here to do the records, do the sneaker deals, this 3:36:31.440 --> 3:36:32.840 and that. I said, I'm like, man, if I could 3:36:32.879 --> 3:36:34.920 do that, I could do the same thing in Hollywood. 3:36:35.360 --> 3:36:37.160 And the good thing about me is I can call 3:36:37.240 --> 3:36:38.240 and get those meetings. 3:36:38.879 --> 3:36:40.320 But I don't want to go into meetings and have 3:36:40.440 --> 3:36:42.480 Hollywood sain't No, it'd be better if you do. 3:36:42.600 --> 3:36:44.600 To know, we don't have to be negroes and they 3:36:44.800 --> 3:36:46.840 have to be Gangbang. There could be so much other 3:36:47.000 --> 3:36:52.000 stories to tell, like who would have thought this Catholic 3:36:52.240 --> 3:36:58.360 school comic, reading classic classes, wearing nerd, We'll grow up 3:36:58.520 --> 3:37:00.880 not to be just a part of hip hop, but 3:37:01.080 --> 3:37:04.320 one of the kings of hip hop, pillas who was 3:37:04.600 --> 3:37:14.000 able to change every associated genre or entity that we 3:37:14.240 --> 3:37:18.080 came in to connect with. Who whatever thought about that? 3:37:18.320 --> 3:37:19.440 So those are the stories that. 3:37:19.879 --> 3:37:24.480 Which changed the world exactly. I mean, Bust has said it. Man, 3:37:24.560 --> 3:37:27.840 these motherfuckers didn't just change music. They changed you know, 3:37:28.000 --> 3:37:28.320 buss it. 3:37:28.600 --> 3:37:31.039 They changed everything absolutely, you know. 3:37:31.040 --> 3:37:31.440 What I'm saying. 3:37:31.480 --> 3:37:34.160 And the beautiful thing Kaz always says that hip hop 3:37:34.280 --> 3:37:39.560 didn't really create anything, wereated everything. So it's that we're 3:37:39.600 --> 3:37:42.760 not what I don't want us to get and especially 3:37:42.800 --> 3:37:46.040 don't want this generation that's looking at the celebration. Don't 3:37:46.120 --> 3:37:51.879 get caught up in the fiftieth celebration being over, because 3:37:52.160 --> 3:37:56.600 if we change music and we changed fashion, that means 3:37:56.680 --> 3:38:00.240 we can change. When we say jam message, everything that 3:38:00.320 --> 3:38:03.320 he touched turns the goal, Everything that we touch turns 3:38:03.360 --> 3:38:03.680 the goal. 3:38:04.480 --> 3:38:06.360 So like when you said I really meant that, I 3:38:06.480 --> 3:38:08.560 was like, Yo, this is like me coming on soul train. 3:38:09.520 --> 3:38:11.320 You know, I went on soul train, of course. 3:38:11.440 --> 3:38:14.360 But for me coming here, this is me being here 3:38:15.080 --> 3:38:18.879 with you know, you guys are my fucking Mike Douglass, 3:38:19.040 --> 3:38:20.119 is Merv Griffins. 3:38:20.840 --> 3:38:26.240 You'all guys are min Johnny Cars got so the kids, 3:38:26.360 --> 3:38:28.480 the kids need to see that. Let me ask you 3:38:28.560 --> 3:38:31.200 something because you said it earlier. I think you said 3:38:31.200 --> 3:38:35.880 your father said it. You said, why would anybody hurt Jay? 3:38:36.080 --> 3:38:39.120 Right me, you know, as a younger, and you know, 3:38:40.440 --> 3:38:43.160 I didn't understand that at all, Like like I couldn't 3:38:44.080 --> 3:38:46.760 comprehend it. I couldn't comprehend it. I couldn't understand. I 3:38:46.800 --> 3:38:50.520 couldn't identify because every time I seen Jay, it was 3:38:50.600 --> 3:38:54.879 just always love. It's like, especially in Queens. Happened in Queens, 3:38:55.320 --> 3:38:57.720 it was like very shocking to me, and especially in 3:38:57.840 --> 3:39:00.720 his studio, you know, I mean, and the jam Master 3:39:00.840 --> 3:39:05.080 J documentary Who Killed jam Master J? On Netflix? And 3:39:05.160 --> 3:39:07.119 I'm still kind of confused, you know what I'm saying. 3:39:07.240 --> 3:39:09.360 So I just want to ask your perspective for that, 3:39:09.520 --> 3:39:11.360 you know what I mean? Or that night when you 3:39:11.440 --> 3:39:13.640 got the phone call, right when. 3:39:13.120 --> 3:39:17.600 It first happened. First thing that happened was ten o'clock 3:39:17.680 --> 3:39:23.160 news Channel nine, Channel five and eleven not channel CBS, 3:39:23.280 --> 3:39:27.480 ABC and eleven ten o'clock news Channel five, Channel nine, 3:39:28.040 --> 3:39:33.600 Channel eleven breaking news ham Master j Shine. The study consumed. 3:39:33.640 --> 3:39:37.080 Now when I'm hearing this, I'm going, okay, somebody did 3:39:37.160 --> 3:39:41.560 get shot, right, but it's not j So Hour goes 3:39:41.640 --> 3:39:44.480 by and his what's crazy. The next day we were 3:39:44.560 --> 3:39:47.160 supposed to go play beaver and and j was supposed 3:39:47.200 --> 3:39:52.640 to go perform at the Washington Wizards halftime basketball some 3:39:52.920 --> 3:39:57.240 package when Jordan was on. I don't know if no, no, 3:39:57.480 --> 3:39:59.920 this was after Jordan. Okay, cool, we're supposed to play halftime, 3:40:00.080 --> 3:40:04.640 remember it, so eleven o'clock news Channel two, Channel four, 3:40:04.800 --> 3:40:05.400 Channel seven. 3:40:05.480 --> 3:40:08.000 So now by this time, I'm seeing the pictures of 3:40:08.080 --> 3:40:12.680 the body bag being and then again all right, somebody 3:40:12.760 --> 3:40:16.840 ours Hollie, fuck, somebody dig get shot, but it's not Jay. 3:40:18.280 --> 3:40:24.480 Eric's daughter Erica calls me crying, Hey, coot, j whatever woe. 3:40:24.600 --> 3:40:25.640 This might be serious. 3:40:26.200 --> 3:40:28.920 I tell my wife. My wife goes sixth door. We 3:40:29.080 --> 3:40:31.040 give my son, who said with us he was a 3:40:31.080 --> 3:40:33.720 little baby, to the babysitter. So we jump in the 3:40:33.800 --> 3:40:38.440 car and we jet to Queen's. We're living in Jersey 3:40:38.520 --> 3:40:39.920 right now. Jet to Queens. 3:40:40.800 --> 3:40:43.960 I pull up to the studio, which was about a 3:40:43.959 --> 3:40:47.600 one hundred and sixteen ninth Street bus terminal by the 3:40:48.680 --> 3:40:51.080 New York Public Library on the other side and the 3:40:51.120 --> 3:40:53.480 bus seven er. So I pull up. This is when 3:40:53.480 --> 3:40:55.200 I know it was reality. I get out the car. 3:40:55.959 --> 3:41:00.680 I see Chuck Deer public enemy in Ed Lover cry 3:41:01.920 --> 3:41:04.720 and I know it was for real. So that's it. 3:41:04.840 --> 3:41:07.480 I get out the car, see Ed Luck crying like this, 3:41:08.120 --> 3:41:11.760 Chuck d crying. All happened so fast, So police come 3:41:11.879 --> 3:41:14.120 grab me. The priestcint is right across the street. 3:41:14.600 --> 3:41:16.040 Take me to the priests and sit me down and 3:41:16.320 --> 3:41:18.360 asked me all of these questions this, and then boom 3:41:18.560 --> 3:41:20.720 if you was there? Boom boom asked if it's there, 3:41:20.800 --> 3:41:23.440 and also did you see this? What was they like 3:41:23.560 --> 3:41:25.320 this in boombe I don't know. We toured this and 3:41:25.360 --> 3:41:28.280 the boom just a whar wind. So that that's that's 3:41:28.360 --> 3:41:30.720 how I found out. And then as time went on, 3:41:32.240 --> 3:41:37.080 I remember might have been on my Space or something, 3:41:37.440 --> 3:41:39.600 but somewhere you know, it was coming up. 3:41:39.680 --> 3:41:43.440 Everybody was disappointed, whatever, and then I just nonchalantly and 3:41:43.560 --> 3:41:48.240 innestly innocently posted I'm not mad at the guy that 3:41:48.280 --> 3:41:51.000 shot Jay should have never did that. 3:41:52.440 --> 3:41:56.080 Man, the whole world cursed me like like crazy. So 3:41:56.160 --> 3:41:58.960 I said, okay, let me, let let me elaborate on 3:41:59.080 --> 3:42:01.760 what I just said. I'm not mad at the guy 3:42:01.840 --> 3:42:06.040 that shot Jay. The guy that shot J personally is 3:42:06.160 --> 3:42:09.000 it my problem and that's not my fight. My struggle 3:42:09.320 --> 3:42:13.640 and people understood this. My struggle is the mindset that 3:42:13.720 --> 3:42:17.760 would cause an individual to do those things. And not 3:42:17.920 --> 3:42:22.199 only for jam Master J, but for Park, for Big 3:42:22.680 --> 3:42:26.680 Scotland Rock, for Freaky Tie, but not only for them. 3:42:26.959 --> 3:42:28.920 What about the jam Master J, Parks and bigs that 3:42:28.920 --> 3:42:32.360 are getting shot in our communities all day. So we 3:42:32.520 --> 3:42:36.200 as hip hop we got an assignment and then people, okay, 3:42:36.240 --> 3:42:38.520 we underste what you said. I know I feel about that, 3:42:38.680 --> 3:42:40.760 about the god and stuff like that, but that's not 3:42:40.920 --> 3:42:43.400 my fight. It's not the individual, because we have the 3:42:43.640 --> 3:42:46.400 ability to change those persectives. 3:42:46.600 --> 3:42:48.480 But speaking on that, it is what it is. The 3:42:48.600 --> 3:42:51.680 dudes they did or whatever they did, they did what 3:42:51.800 --> 3:42:57.320 he did. But what hurts me is this Jay could 3:42:57.360 --> 3:43:01.000 have had his studio in Manhattan and around the corner 3:43:01.080 --> 3:43:03.840 from Diddy's. He can had a studio in La He 3:43:03.959 --> 3:43:07.680 chose to put his studio, five minutes from where he 3:43:07.959 --> 3:43:08.480 came from. 3:43:08.959 --> 3:43:12.480 He opened a door to let everybody else in and 3:43:12.560 --> 3:43:13.400 you could talk to people. 3:43:13.480 --> 3:43:16.760 Jay was like if you can't replicand the secretary, he 3:43:16.959 --> 3:43:20.120 was a mass of creating opportunities, you know. And then 3:43:20.160 --> 3:43:24.160 the whole thing was, Look, all my friends are even 3:43:24.240 --> 3:43:27.560 dead in jail or they stick up kids. And then 3:43:27.640 --> 3:43:31.880 drug dealers. So I'm connected to drug dealers and I 3:43:31.959 --> 3:43:34.240 know a lot of it. Am I doing dally Joe? 3:43:34.400 --> 3:43:35.080 Am I around it? 3:43:35.160 --> 3:43:37.160 Am I involved through those transactions? No? 3:43:37.640 --> 3:43:40.400 But all my friends are drug deals. But Jay was 3:43:40.640 --> 3:43:44.640 five minutes from where he came from. He opened that 3:43:44.720 --> 3:43:47.000 door for the soul. It's a shame that the very 3:43:47.120 --> 3:43:51.040 thing Jay escaped from is the very thing that killed 3:43:51.080 --> 3:43:54.480 him because he was trying to deliver other people's from. 3:43:55.320 --> 3:43:57.520 So I'm still it's still confused to me. I only 3:43:57.560 --> 3:43:59.640 get reminded about it when people bring it up. 3:44:00.080 --> 3:44:01.840 You know what I'm saying. I'm like, damn, that shit 3:44:01.959 --> 3:44:05.120 is crazy. But even the ogs, like everybody crossed the 3:44:05.160 --> 3:44:07.000 board was like, we don't care what that shit was. 3:44:07.040 --> 3:44:09.879 You don't shoot j That's true, you know what I'm saying. 3:44:09.920 --> 3:44:12.840 And I was like, Wow, that's like that, you know, so, 3:44:13.280 --> 3:44:15.400 and then and and and for years it was like 3:44:15.480 --> 3:44:18.640 we didn't see Run DMC together, right, was that like 3:44:18.720 --> 3:44:22.000 the major reason? Yes, all, I said, we can't be 3:44:22.200 --> 3:44:25.080 the only reason, and I said that run DMC, we 3:44:25.240 --> 3:44:28.480 can't replace our dramma. But then Tom went on, and 3:44:28.560 --> 3:44:33.040 then we started getting requests to do festivals, so we 3:44:33.240 --> 3:44:37.160 was like, okay, but even now, I mean, you was 3:44:37.320 --> 3:44:40.720 fortunate and everybody was fortunate to see the show at 3:44:40.920 --> 3:44:46.040 Yankee Statement because we looked great, sounded great, and it 3:44:46.240 --> 3:44:49.400 was flawless, you know what I'm saying. But probably leading 3:44:49.480 --> 3:44:50.959 up to that stay even at. 3:44:50.920 --> 3:44:55.039 That show, you're not seeing Run DMC as Run DMC 3:44:55.200 --> 3:44:58.360 j message. It's seeing the two members formally of that 3:44:58.560 --> 3:45:01.160 great band. It's like, what I'm trying to say is 3:45:01.400 --> 3:45:04.600 it's still in me phenomenal. It's like seeing Paul McCartney 3:45:04.680 --> 3:45:07.680 and Ringo. It's just not the same, right, It's not 3:45:08.080 --> 3:45:11.080 run It's running d m C, but it's not Run DMC. 3:45:11.320 --> 3:45:13.040 And then who was the DJ for y'all that night? 3:45:13.600 --> 3:45:16.360 We had two DJs, DJ Kellie Champ which is Mine DJ, 3:45:16.760 --> 3:45:19.320 and DJ Ruckets which is Runs DJ. Because when we 3:45:19.400 --> 3:45:22.720 came back together. We had to compromise. Yeah, you ain't usual. 3:45:22.840 --> 3:45:24.080 I'm not just using your DJ. 3:45:24.600 --> 3:45:28.640 You a little kids shit you us, so we both 3:45:28.720 --> 3:45:31.680 use our DC so everybody could shine, but y'all on 3:45:31.760 --> 3:45:34.880 the same records. So don't get that part because and 3:45:35.040 --> 3:45:35.360 when it. 3:45:35.440 --> 3:45:37.640 Goes to your part, your DJ goes on your party, 3:45:38.760 --> 3:45:42.880 they alternate. That'd be crazy. 3:45:44.000 --> 3:45:51.000 It's crazy, that's really Yeah, that's Fay taking it. 3:45:51.480 --> 3:45:52.840 But it's like. 3:45:54.840 --> 3:45:58.960 Now, if Run DMC was to record again, if we 3:45:59.200 --> 3:46:02.720 was to record again, we couldn't record as run DMC. 3:46:04.920 --> 3:46:08.039 Why because when in the overall picture of of. 3:46:10.160 --> 3:46:15.520 Music, musical ship, musicianship, in the overall picture of musicianship, 3:46:15.879 --> 3:46:18.680 what we would do is we form a new band. 3:46:19.400 --> 3:46:21.800 When you look at I said, when you look at 3:46:21.840 --> 3:46:26.120 Audio Slave, they they was audio Slave, and then there 3:46:26.320 --> 3:46:27.840 was what's the other band? They became. 3:46:28.120 --> 3:46:33.960 Oh you look at perfect example David Grold and you 3:46:34.000 --> 3:46:35.879 know what I'm saying. So you have bands who changed 3:46:35.920 --> 3:46:38.360 the name with some of the original members. You know 3:46:38.360 --> 3:46:39.760 what I'm saying. So me and Ron would have to 3:46:39.840 --> 3:46:44.120 figure out what we're gonna call this recording entity because 3:46:44.160 --> 3:46:45.400 we can't come as you Run DMC. 3:46:46.040 --> 3:46:50.640 It'll be running DMC and the champs with feature. You 3:46:50.680 --> 3:46:52.280 know what I'm saying, we would have to give you 3:46:52.400 --> 3:46:55.560 another when you see us now that's run in DMC 3:46:55.840 --> 3:47:00.680 doing run DMC. But for us to record, no, because 3:47:00.720 --> 3:47:04.520 that it wouldn't tarnish that ship because we dope anyway. 3:47:04.879 --> 3:47:09.760 But it's more respect right to form a new band, 3:47:09.920 --> 3:47:13.120 which is really kind of cool to sound Garden. It 3:47:13.240 --> 3:47:16.720 was Soundgarden and Audio'll say you morph into if me 3:47:16.840 --> 3:47:19.440 and Run say we're going to record now. We said 3:47:19.480 --> 3:47:23.200 it was the last show at at Yankee Stadium. It's 3:47:23.240 --> 3:47:26.080 the last show. Everybody ever said you got the last 3:47:26.120 --> 3:47:29.600 show in New York and Yankee Stadium. We can do, Oh, 3:47:29.760 --> 3:47:32.840 run DMC's last show in l A right, we can 3:47:32.920 --> 3:47:36.640 do run DMC's last show. Ran into it if if 3:47:36.720 --> 3:47:40.680 that comes up, but forced to record, and for me, 3:47:40.959 --> 3:47:44.080 for my adventurous creative spirit, I would want to do 3:47:44.160 --> 3:47:46.280 it under a new name. You know what I'm saying. 3:47:46.480 --> 3:47:47.960 Your room we're gonna be angel Dust. 3:47:51.000 --> 3:47:53.560 But the last room, the last tour of doing all 3:47:53.600 --> 3:47:56.120 the last shows would be kind of ill everybody. 3:47:56.560 --> 3:48:00.120 How about a versus huh? How about a versus with 3:48:00.360 --> 3:48:04.000 who would bring DMC verse against the verse. Yeah, the verses, oh, 3:48:04.080 --> 3:48:11.959 I don't know, I don't know public enemy to. 3:48:12.000 --> 3:48:13.760 BCS, don't want to do definitely don't want to do 3:48:13.840 --> 3:48:16.280 something because they can't do it without m C. A See, 3:48:16.320 --> 3:48:17.560 I was a little that me and Ron could do 3:48:17.600 --> 3:48:20.800 it because Jay wasn't a MC, right, you know what 3:48:20.840 --> 3:48:24.440 I'm saying, Like they like soul Oh, shout out to 3:48:24.520 --> 3:48:27.920 true By. I got a record on Spotify and you 3:48:28.120 --> 3:48:31.240 two called Kingdom come where. I pay my respects to 3:48:31.360 --> 3:48:34.160 true By because every time I was around true By, 3:48:34.200 --> 3:48:36.119 he just looked at me like I was the greatest 3:48:36.160 --> 3:48:38.720 thing in the world. And he was like, I mean, 3:48:38.920 --> 3:48:40.600 like really and he would tell me, oh no that 3:48:40.760 --> 3:48:43.600 you don't know the like you don't know like I 3:48:43.879 --> 3:48:48.039 loved him like I love true like recip. 3:48:49.520 --> 3:48:58.160 So. But in a versus d P M, d M, yeah, 3:48:58.320 --> 3:49:01.320 they but yeah, a little too hard. We would have 3:49:01.400 --> 3:49:03.680 to run DMC. We would have to go up against 3:49:03.800 --> 3:49:09.680 like Taylor Swift for someone. You know, I'm just saying 3:49:09.680 --> 3:49:12.360 that we would run the MC who would run DMC 3:49:12.480 --> 3:49:17.160 in a versus Because you gotta understand it, Doug running 3:49:17.240 --> 3:49:21.040 m C is just a little unique because a lot 3:49:21.200 --> 3:49:24.240 nique you know, you know, if yeah, a lot unique 3:49:24.280 --> 3:49:27.520 because one of the things that we always did, Pete 3:49:27.640 --> 3:49:30.680 Rock did it in a way that it's fucking you know, 3:49:30.920 --> 3:49:33.040 they said we were the Kings, but Pete Rock made 3:49:33.080 --> 3:49:35.560 the world bout. But one of the things that would 3:49:35.640 --> 3:49:37.880 always pushed me and run off now and I get 3:49:37.960 --> 3:49:41.960 upseted about now is we would always get those instances 3:49:42.120 --> 3:49:44.720 where people is like running, Sea's already falling off. 3:49:45.160 --> 3:49:48.360 So the first time that they started thinking that we did, 3:49:48.480 --> 3:49:51.520 here we go to let motherfuckers know it ain't about 3:49:51.800 --> 3:49:54.600 these fucking wrecords in the studio, Dre drop Big B. 3:49:55.200 --> 3:49:57.120 You know, I'm saying I'm from Hollis Queen's in the 3:49:57.200 --> 3:49:59.760 games we play, see here we go. Listen, Here we 3:49:59.800 --> 3:50:02.160 go right now from start and it's the one of 3:50:02.240 --> 3:50:07.680 the most perfected performances of hip hop. 3:50:08.240 --> 3:50:12.560 DJ ain't in bars. Turn your fucking record off, motherfucking 3:50:12.640 --> 3:50:14.400 Let's go down to the park and see you can 3:50:14.480 --> 3:50:16.560 perform for a hour. A lot of motherfuckers can't do that, 3:50:16.920 --> 3:50:20.080 So here we go. Then, if you remember y'all forgot. 3:50:21.360 --> 3:50:25.520 Red Men and Dayla Sol shout out to them when 3:50:25.560 --> 3:50:29.040 they did party people Loom killing your dreams. Have me 3:50:29.120 --> 3:50:31.960 and run made that ship because motherfuckers was popping ship 3:50:32.080 --> 3:50:36.520 thinking that we ain't dope. Motherfucker dope. I'm dope eternally. 3:50:36.800 --> 3:50:40.200 So we did party. People, your dreams have now been fulfilled. 3:50:40.520 --> 3:50:44.080 Get out your seat and let's get ill. That's right, y'all. 3:50:44.320 --> 3:50:46.880 We're not just rough. We're more than tough. And when 3:50:46.920 --> 3:50:51.640 it comes to run, but then we got enough. We're 3:50:51.680 --> 3:50:53.960 ill with chill with scar so dope. 3:50:54.080 --> 3:50:56.440 That just suit me up too. Y'all know I did 3:50:56.520 --> 3:51:00.920 a song with Biggie right, don't don't get twisted my 3:51:01.120 --> 3:51:02.320 downfall that. 3:51:03.840 --> 3:51:05.120 I'm at home just being DMC. 3:51:05.200 --> 3:51:06.960 I get a call, yo, BI want to make your 3:51:07.080 --> 3:51:09.400 verse to chorus and ship he could relate to that ship. 3:51:10.000 --> 3:51:13.240 That's not all MC's have the gall to pray and 3:51:13.440 --> 3:51:15.040 plan for my downfall. 3:51:15.440 --> 3:51:18.760 But my rhyme was, I'm not running. I'm just stunning smart, 3:51:18.920 --> 3:51:22.440 not stupid, because I'm so cunning and she's regretting. I'm 3:51:22.600 --> 3:51:25.240 upsetting my recitals take titles in dollars. 3:51:25.320 --> 3:51:25.800 I'm betting. 3:51:26.640 --> 3:51:29.240 But we made together forever, we say, yo. Just put 3:51:29.280 --> 3:51:31.800 the eight o eight on because think about a New 3:51:31.880 --> 3:51:33.680 York City was doing that eight o eight before the 3:51:33.760 --> 3:51:37.720 South the South got it from us dumb dumb, dumb, dumb, 3:51:37.920 --> 3:51:41.200 dump dumb girl as Jamaine dupri We was fucking eight 3:51:41.240 --> 3:51:43.720 o eight and now asses off. But we put out 3:51:43.760 --> 3:51:46.040 party people. We had to shut you all up in 3:51:46.080 --> 3:51:50.120 the Then when we was doing Raising Hell, Run came along. 3:51:50.720 --> 3:51:53.920 Run came with UV Yelling, which was just all have. 3:51:57.520 --> 3:52:02.080 Calling, but he wrote he came when You'll be Yelling, 3:52:02.360 --> 3:52:06.200 which was his version of a print song. He was 3:52:06.280 --> 3:52:10.040 inspired by Dove's cry I can see you See that 3:52:10.200 --> 3:52:10.480 was one. 3:52:10.600 --> 3:52:12.840 So he comes in to the studio and raising Hell. 3:52:13.080 --> 3:52:14.960 I got this idea, So him and Jay lay it 3:52:15.040 --> 3:52:17.480 down and then me and Ray did the ad libs. 3:52:17.600 --> 3:52:20.400 So Run leaves because Run always had kids. He was like, 3:52:20.520 --> 3:52:22.720 I think he was three kids deep by this time. 3:52:22.760 --> 3:52:26.360 First in a hand, Yeah, married, yep, exactly. Didn't make 3:52:26.400 --> 3:52:29.360 those numbers, but you know he was good running. So 3:52:29.640 --> 3:52:31.920 when he left, Jay, this is why I love Jay. 3:52:31.920 --> 3:52:34.440 I'm just sitting there now. That would have could have 3:52:34.480 --> 3:52:38.360 been just record. Jay turns to me and he says, Deed, 3:52:38.480 --> 3:52:39.600 so what are you gonna do now? 3:52:39.600 --> 3:52:41.480 And I'm like, what do you mean? Jay? This is 3:52:41.520 --> 3:52:44.880 why you gotta love Jay. Run got his record? Where's 3:52:44.920 --> 3:52:48.480 your record, and I was like, thanks for asking Jay, 3:52:48.840 --> 3:52:52.360 because I was always writing to be writing anyway. 3:52:52.400 --> 3:52:54.480 I never wrote for records. I was just always writing, 3:52:55.160 --> 3:52:57.160 put the beat on, let me figure it out. So 3:52:57.320 --> 3:53:01.960 I say, Jay, motherfucker, it's trying to say that we 3:53:02.120 --> 3:53:10.040 ain't on that King rock him terrorist one level. I 3:53:10.200 --> 3:53:12.520 beg to differ. So he said, what do you want 3:53:12.600 --> 3:53:14.800 to do? I said, I got these rhymes. Now I 3:53:14.840 --> 3:53:16.800 didn't know what the song was going to be. I said, 3:53:16.800 --> 3:53:18.440 I got these rhyms, and you said, let me hit 3:53:18.440 --> 3:53:21.480 a rhyme. I'm the devastating my control the DMC, and 3:53:21.680 --> 3:53:24.760 can't nobody mess around with me. I'm the king of rock, 3:53:24.960 --> 3:53:27.160 rap and of rhymes. So I could just end the 3:53:27.240 --> 3:53:29.560 conversation right there. I'm not only king of rock, I'm 3:53:29.560 --> 3:53:32.040 the rapping and you want to run whatever they or 3:53:32.240 --> 3:53:34.280 king of rock, rap and of rhyme. I deal what 3:53:34.400 --> 3:53:36.960 I feel and it feels fine. If it's okay to Jay, 3:53:37.040 --> 3:53:39.320 then I will play around a sound with put down 3:53:39.400 --> 3:53:40.000 for the rhymes. 3:53:40.040 --> 3:53:41.840 I say. Then I went into. 3:53:43.160 --> 3:53:46.200 You jock watching clock while I rocked the spot better 3:53:46.320 --> 3:53:48.080 known to the world as the King of Rock. 3:53:48.160 --> 3:53:50.520 I like to speak my piece when I'm on the mic. 3:53:50.760 --> 3:53:52.840 I'm the best, or at least I'm the one you like. 3:53:53.440 --> 3:53:55.360 So I had these rhymes and the day was like, oh, 3:53:55.400 --> 3:53:59.200 here's what we're gonna do in eighty five. And when 3:53:59.240 --> 3:54:02.240 we was touring with the Fat Boys, watching them ted 3:54:02.320 --> 3:54:05.440 down coliseums, Run used to do this thing where he 3:54:05.480 --> 3:54:10.920 would imitate Buffy. I would holler, hit it run. If 3:54:10.960 --> 3:54:13.560 you listen to hit It run, that's Run imitating Buffy, 3:54:13.760 --> 3:54:16.000 which was a joke that Run always did on his tour. 3:54:16.360 --> 3:54:17.760 So Jay goes yo. 3:54:17.960 --> 3:54:21.720 That thing Run used to do on the Freshfest, which 3:54:21.800 --> 3:54:25.920 is hip hop's first tour before Raising Hell Freshfest one, 3:54:26.040 --> 3:54:29.160 Fresh Fest two Run dmc Curtis Blow Houdini. 3:54:29.880 --> 3:54:34.320 Jermaine dupri was a dancer with Houdini. So Jay says, 3:54:34.360 --> 3:54:36.360 we're gonna make hit It Run. So I said, Jay, 3:54:36.520 --> 3:54:40.880 just give me a beat that is fucking fucking pulsating. 3:54:41.440 --> 3:54:43.680 So we went and we made hit It Run. I 3:54:43.800 --> 3:54:45.720 had to right hit it run. So I don't want 3:54:45.920 --> 3:54:48.880 motherfucker's thinking that we just fucking it's tricky. 3:54:48.960 --> 3:54:53.720 It's like that, motherfuckers. So at every cusps, at every 3:54:53.800 --> 3:54:58.440 transformation on hip hop, we were we were in a 3:54:58.560 --> 3:55:01.440 position to do all of it that stuff, but we 3:55:01.520 --> 3:55:03.960 didn't have to because, like you said, we found a 3:55:04.080 --> 3:55:07.680 niche with making records like Tricky, but we also had 3:55:07.800 --> 3:55:10.840 Sucking Seas right. We had Down Went the King, but 3:55:10.960 --> 3:55:12.800 we also had Mary Mary. 3:55:12.840 --> 3:55:17.560 So our presentation and presence in hip hop was very versatile. 3:55:18.200 --> 3:55:19.800 That's why chuck y y'all kind of would like the 3:55:19.880 --> 3:55:21.680 Beatles because when you think a round to see, you 3:55:21.760 --> 3:55:24.520 think of all the songs. But most of those songs 3:55:24.560 --> 3:55:26.640 that y'all don't know were just rap routines that kind 3:55:26.680 --> 3:55:30.400 of went on cassette tapes in seventy nine. So is 3:55:30.480 --> 3:55:33.440 it seventy nine or is it two thousand and four? 3:55:34.040 --> 3:55:38.200 I got a song out right now produced by Bombinuck 3:55:38.200 --> 3:55:40.480 Who's That's Me Iced Tea Chuck and and shit is 3:55:40.560 --> 3:55:44.040 killing you know? And I love Rick Rubin saying your 3:55:44.120 --> 3:55:46.240 old stuff ain't better than your new stuff, and your 3:55:46.280 --> 3:55:48.360 new stuff ain't better than your It's just it is it. 3:55:48.520 --> 3:55:52.360 Is, you know what I'm saying. So let's talk about 3:55:52.440 --> 3:55:55.920 this one record, Beats to the Robs. I forgot about 3:55:55.960 --> 3:56:00.720 that one that was before It's time. It's been a 3:56:00.760 --> 3:56:05.240 sample a lot, yep, yep. That record was like. 3:56:07.320 --> 3:56:12.480 The current hip hop people didn't understand it, but every producer, 3:56:13.040 --> 3:56:14.760 every MC, every. 3:56:15.080 --> 3:56:17.640 You said you been carrying at that time, that's yeah, 3:56:17.680 --> 3:56:21.280 because it was like beat but everybody was like that. 3:56:21.400 --> 3:56:24.000 When Beast of Rhyme came out, everybody in the industry 3:56:24.200 --> 3:56:26.000 was kind of like when we walked through the door, 3:56:26.040 --> 3:56:30.320 they move out their way, like oh, like beacing around 3:56:30.400 --> 3:56:32.600 with just that ship beats to the ram and rama 3:56:32.760 --> 3:56:39.920 is part of you, Like it's that ship a man, 3:56:40.080 --> 3:56:42.640 it is around. It's that like, go listen to pieces 3:56:42.640 --> 3:56:46.960 of rhyme. Everybody shut the fuck out before you got 3:56:47.080 --> 3:56:52.040 that ship is crazy. What I say, hard core rhyms 3:56:52.120 --> 3:56:55.480 go on. Like I said before my beasts. 3:56:55.200 --> 3:56:57.680 Were played in may RUMs laid j d J and 3:56:57.800 --> 3:56:59.880 I got paid me something and of nothing yo, d 3:57:00.080 --> 3:57:02.320 that you Yes, my brother, I'm gonna do it for you, 3:57:02.840 --> 3:57:05.480 roaming the zone of the microphone and I'll hold the throne. 3:57:05.600 --> 3:57:08.280 But I'm not alone. Got bone of stealing, not a stone. 3:57:08.320 --> 3:57:09.240 I'm going to be prone to. 3:57:09.240 --> 3:57:10.680 Make your mama moone. 3:57:12.000 --> 3:57:14.440 Time for the rhyme and let the shart seine came 3:57:14.520 --> 3:57:17.560 with the game and the name company run having fun. 3:57:17.680 --> 3:57:20.680 Let me give your ring Joe gotta go now. Word 3:57:20.760 --> 3:57:23.160 from the like, yeah beaston rhyme is that ship? 3:57:23.720 --> 3:57:26.960 Yeah, let me just say something in dmc man so. 3:57:27.200 --> 3:57:28.320 And I like I like being. 3:57:29.000 --> 3:57:31.600 I like being not being in your top five? 3:57:32.240 --> 3:57:35.560 Who you know when top five? Yeah, I like to 3:57:36.400 --> 3:57:37.800 because I'm in a class by myself. 3:57:37.880 --> 3:57:39.200 Absolutely can't put me in it. 3:57:40.000 --> 3:57:41.720 So I'm better than the top five. That's why I 3:57:41.760 --> 3:57:43.400 don't come up. You can't put me in that ship. 3:57:43.800 --> 3:57:46.120 That's limitating in my presence and my abilities. 3:57:48.440 --> 3:57:51.200 So I know. I actually this a little earlier, but 3:57:52.240 --> 3:57:55.400 we got we got the single, we got the use, 3:57:55.400 --> 3:57:56.760 this is, this is, this is this is, this is 3:57:56.760 --> 3:57:59.360 a this is a cartoon as well. Yeah, I mean 3:58:00.320 --> 3:58:02.520 and off. 3:58:02.720 --> 3:58:05.679 Collaboration is the key to transformation. 3:58:06.000 --> 3:58:08.120 And then the kids book and then another kinds of book, 3:58:08.320 --> 3:58:11.800 the kids book I did with collaboration with Nickelodeon. It's 3:58:11.840 --> 3:58:14.560 the first book in a series of books I'm gonna 3:58:14.560 --> 3:58:16.840 do like ten books. The first one is Daryl's Dream, 3:58:17.200 --> 3:58:20.120 next want to be Daryl's Decision, next one to It's 3:58:20.160 --> 3:58:21.200 all gonna be dilemmas. 3:58:21.280 --> 3:58:21.840 That's the children. 3:58:22.080 --> 3:58:24.480 Is this going to turn into like series like Chris 3:58:24.600 --> 3:58:28.040 Rock Everybody hates Krits It could be live action. I 3:58:28.120 --> 3:58:33.520 gave you, I gave you, yeah, sitcom. So as I 3:58:33.600 --> 3:58:35.520 look at it, I feel like everybody's, well, it's. 3:58:35.400 --> 3:58:40.160 Definitely gonna be a cartoon. Yeah, it's needed, But I 3:58:40.200 --> 3:58:44.080 didn't think of that. Yeah, hell yeah, I think that. 3:58:45.400 --> 3:58:47.680 I think the hip hop we should get everything from 3:58:47.760 --> 3:58:49.800 hip hop. Like, if you're gonna watch cartoons, you're gonna 3:58:49.960 --> 3:58:54.200 do that's what. Yeah, you're gonna you're gonna order a 3:58:54.280 --> 3:58:57.920 mil prep. I think it should what it is if 3:58:57.920 --> 3:58:58.840 you're gonna hire a train. 3:59:00.080 --> 3:59:03.120 No, we at that point that it's so hip hop 3:59:03.200 --> 3:59:05.600 that you don't even realize that exactly. It's it's like, 3:59:06.040 --> 3:59:08.040 you know, it's like when our parents was able to 3:59:08.080 --> 3:59:09.920 go see Temptations and four times. 3:59:10.280 --> 3:59:13.560 It's like look the Stones Kiss. 3:59:13.760 --> 3:59:15.360 We at that point with us right now. 3:59:15.720 --> 3:59:19.240 And it's good because the older, the o gs and 3:59:19.280 --> 3:59:21.720 the eldest can now get work without even trying for it, 3:59:22.040 --> 3:59:25.160 because it's just the thing where now I've read an article. 3:59:25.480 --> 3:59:28.440 Now we are starting to sell tickets again. Oh yeah, 3:59:28.480 --> 3:59:33.520 oh yeah, yeah, we at that point right now. Yeah, 3:59:33.960 --> 3:59:37.080 I'm saying it's dope. That's the good thing. I am now. 3:59:37.240 --> 3:59:41.760 What I saw on American Band standing and soul train. 3:59:42.360 --> 3:59:47.840 We are now that crazy right? Crazy right. It's a 3:59:47.880 --> 3:59:50.600 cliche question, and I'm not sure if I answered it. 3:59:50.680 --> 3:59:52.480 I asked you this earlier, but did you ever think 3:59:52.520 --> 3:59:54.520 that hip hop would make it this far? Nobody didn't? 3:59:54.680 --> 3:59:54.960 You did? 3:59:55.120 --> 3:59:57.120 I didn't answer, you know, I didn't Jay did. Jay 3:59:57.200 --> 4:00:00.440 would answer that and say, yes, I knew it would 4:00:00.520 --> 4:00:02.480 because it was so big when I first heard it, 4:00:03.080 --> 4:00:05.880 and then I read well, like all the shit that 4:00:06.600 --> 4:00:09.520 I do when I run the cold, crush it and 4:00:09.680 --> 4:00:12.120 mod shit, that should have been a signal to me. 4:00:12.200 --> 4:00:12.880 But I didn't think that. 4:00:13.320 --> 4:00:15.360 I thought it was just gonna stay in our region. 4:00:15.720 --> 4:00:17.440 I thought what I thought it was going to do 4:00:17.600 --> 4:00:18.520 was I tell her was going to. 4:00:18.560 --> 4:00:20.600 Stay in our rear. I thought he's gonna have great records, 4:00:21.040 --> 4:00:23.640 do some chart shit, grammy shit. But I thought it 4:00:23.680 --> 4:00:28.560 would eventually become you know, last night in Atlanta, I 4:00:28.600 --> 4:00:30.800 spoke with somebody in DC about that where Go Go 4:00:31.040 --> 4:00:33.360 is the one thing I can respect about Go Go. 4:00:33.480 --> 4:00:36.280 They didn't let the industry determine the life or death 4:00:36.400 --> 4:00:39.560 of their job. Yeah thing, even at the height of 4:00:39.600 --> 4:00:39.800 Go Go. 4:00:39.920 --> 4:00:41.600 Well, I speaking to the guy last night eighty six 4:00:41.680 --> 4:00:44.880 to eighty eight, we's coming through the met to run DMC, 4:00:45.040 --> 4:00:46.680 Dougie Fresh, I'm talking about all of us. 4:00:47.000 --> 4:00:49.240 But at the end of the night, after the Rags 4:00:49.280 --> 4:00:51.200 in Hell tour, after all ll. 4:00:51.280 --> 4:00:55.000 Did it, after we did buy all go back fucking home, 4:00:55.120 --> 4:00:59.720 their go go and exactly yeah, and they know me that. 4:01:00.480 --> 4:01:02.520 I was like, I've never seen fish so cool. And 4:01:02.600 --> 4:01:04.280 then they combined it with the hip hop. You know 4:01:04.280 --> 4:01:07.120 what I'm saying. But for me, I thought hip hop 4:01:07.160 --> 4:01:08.760 would be just go go, it would just be our 4:01:09.240 --> 4:01:12.840 cultural thing, like you know how different cities have New 4:01:12.960 --> 4:01:15.360 Orleans have their things and that I didn't think it 4:01:15.440 --> 4:01:17.680 was going to do this type of shit. But Jay 4:01:17.800 --> 4:01:20.440 always said this. I knew it were because it was 4:01:20.520 --> 4:01:22.920 so big when I first heard it. So imagine what 4:01:23.120 --> 4:01:25.480 Jay is saying is that's what the kids in Germany heard, 4:01:26.640 --> 4:01:28.880 That's what the kids in Africa felt, That's what the 4:01:28.960 --> 4:01:31.000 kids in When we first went over to Japan in 4:01:31.080 --> 4:01:34.600 eighty six, we get off the plane, I would say 4:01:34.640 --> 4:01:39.600 about sixty percent understand English, forty percent then for me 4:01:39.720 --> 4:01:43.440 were talking about the flyg in the communication. Communication is 4:01:43.480 --> 4:01:45.280 a cool thing and sometimes you didn't even got to 4:01:45.280 --> 4:01:48.320 say it work. The kids the audience over there would 4:01:48.320 --> 4:01:51.240 go win WMC, you know in the Japanese dialect, and 4:01:51.280 --> 4:01:55.120 they went saying work. They would just do this with 4:01:55.280 --> 4:01:57.600 the suit and we would go. That was the language. 4:01:57.680 --> 4:02:01.240 That was it. It was communicating. So when Jay I 4:02:01.280 --> 4:02:05.200 didn't think like Biggy said, did you, some people might say, yeah, 4:02:05.800 --> 4:02:08.480 I don't know. If kaz in them. Every kaz answer 4:02:08.560 --> 4:02:09.640 that question. He said no. 4:02:10.040 --> 4:02:11.640 He said he said if he would, if he would 4:02:11.680 --> 4:02:12.320 have would. 4:02:16.680 --> 4:02:19.840 But I didn't take that. Me and Run always said this, 4:02:20.000 --> 4:02:23.520 me running, Jay always said this. If it didn't have 4:02:26.000 --> 4:02:30.440 industrial successes and commercial successes, we would be the guys, 4:02:30.640 --> 4:02:35.480 you know, forty fifty years old, the post office dude, 4:02:36.600 --> 4:02:40.080 just self employed businessman making the teacher no no, no, 4:02:40.760 --> 4:02:44.760 coming to the cookouts and the parties, putting the turntables 4:02:44.840 --> 4:02:48.040 up and rapid right in front of all the little 4:02:48.320 --> 4:02:51.240 It's now looking like, yeah, exactly. But let's talk about 4:02:51.280 --> 4:02:53.240 these cookies before we get up out of here. Daryl 4:02:53.320 --> 4:02:57.440 makes cookies, Okay, I like doing stuff to make people happy. 4:02:57.480 --> 4:03:00.640 Are you making these yourself? I have a baker who's 4:03:00.800 --> 4:03:04.600 doing my recipe. Okay, So just tell about comics. 4:03:04.640 --> 4:03:07.280 I'm like stan Lee. Think of the ideas take up 4:03:07.320 --> 4:03:07.920 to heroes. 4:03:07.960 --> 4:03:11.720 But then I go get artists, anchors, pencillers, colorists and 4:03:11.840 --> 4:03:15.080 writers to write it for me. So I'm my company 4:03:15.480 --> 4:03:18.520 is I'm Daryl's Mint producing the cookies. Is the greater 4:03:18.720 --> 4:03:19.680 director of everything. 4:03:19.680 --> 4:03:23.040 They look good. I'm taking no no, you got So 4:03:23.160 --> 4:03:30.000 that came about. That came about from I said, Well, 4:03:30.200 --> 4:03:32.760 from day one, I'm always on a movie set. It's 4:03:32.760 --> 4:03:33.920 always a craft table. 4:03:34.600 --> 4:03:37.200 I'm always at an event, show, whatever, and it's always 4:03:37.280 --> 4:03:38.280 like munchy stuff there. 4:03:38.560 --> 4:03:40.800 So about seven years ago, I was at. 4:03:40.760 --> 4:03:44.320 An event in the city where a lady from Harlem 4:03:44.440 --> 4:03:48.040 was debuting her big goods, and I'm one of my favorite. 4:03:48.040 --> 4:03:50.680 I eat a lot of sweets. People ask me, what's 4:03:50.760 --> 4:03:55.360 the suc secret to my weight maintenance. I eat a 4:03:55.640 --> 4:03:58.600 lot of sweets. Sometimes I eat sweets and don't eat 4:03:58.600 --> 4:04:01.760 regular food. But organic said, I want to do no 4:04:02.320 --> 4:04:07.240 chips the Hoy type ship chips o oy. I hate yeah, 4:04:09.960 --> 4:04:16.360 damn chips a hoy, red velvet cake, apple pie hoy. No, 4:04:16.720 --> 4:04:19.120 I'm red velvet chips a Hoy. I ain't gonna I'll 4:04:19.120 --> 4:04:21.240 be I'll be I'll be destroying it and I'll be 4:04:21.320 --> 4:04:24.000 at like, where's the cookies. APT like, I don't know, 4:04:26.240 --> 4:04:28.160 why are you asking? I'll be speaking. I'm like, why 4:04:28.160 --> 4:04:30.280 are you looking at me? I was like knowing my 4:04:30.400 --> 4:04:32.640 my back of my teeth is mad red velvet cake. 4:04:32.680 --> 4:04:35.440 Back then, I eat a lot of sweets. But makes 4:04:35.520 --> 4:04:38.600 me go to the gym. M. That's a balance. I 4:04:38.760 --> 4:04:41.200 want to eat them. I gotta do the work. So 4:04:41.320 --> 4:04:42.440 the cookies came about. 4:04:42.640 --> 4:04:46.040 It was this lady for Harlem showcasing her cookies and 4:04:46.080 --> 4:04:48.880 her cakes and the cupcakes and all that ship. And 4:04:49.960 --> 4:04:52.920 I'm always around kids and family, so I just particted sandwich. Oh, 4:04:52.960 --> 4:04:56.440 these cookies are good. And then I said, I'm gonna 4:04:56.440 --> 4:04:59.920 make cookies. I'm calling my cookie company. Jarrold makes cookies. 4:05:00.000 --> 4:05:01.960 And I just said that, and everybody in the room 4:05:02.000 --> 4:05:03.120 stop and said we'll buy him. 4:05:04.040 --> 4:05:09.560 So LUNs. Moving ahead, fast forward ahead. I said, you 4:05:09.640 --> 4:05:11.880 know what I'm doing good with this comic books. I 4:05:11.920 --> 4:05:14.920 can do. Darln makes cookies, I can do Daryl makes chocolate, 4:05:15.360 --> 4:05:17.320 I could do, Dohl Mikes candy. 4:05:18.120 --> 4:05:21.120 A lot of cool stuff that I like. I can't drink, 4:05:21.760 --> 4:05:25.000 so I can't make my own liquor. I don't think 4:05:25.840 --> 4:05:29.840 Adidas is my company, so I don't need to make 4:05:29.880 --> 4:05:31.120 a DFC homeanalize. 4:05:31.240 --> 4:05:34.160 So I decided to do the cookies because. 4:05:33.840 --> 4:05:36.280 I'm always around kids, families, and I go to schools 4:05:36.320 --> 4:05:38.480 all the time. So I want to have a product 4:05:38.560 --> 4:05:42.000 that's affiliated with something that I'm really part of. And 4:05:42.880 --> 4:05:45.520 Riggs told me this, He said, Deep, you can do 4:05:45.640 --> 4:05:47.840 with this book what you've been doing with your music 4:05:47.880 --> 4:05:51.600 all the time. What do you mean inspire, motivate, educate 4:05:51.720 --> 4:05:54.760 while you entertain or smiles on people's faces. 4:05:55.200 --> 4:05:57.320 So I'm just trying to come up with products that 4:05:59.240 --> 4:06:03.680 could really make me iconic in lifestyle other than what 4:06:03.840 --> 4:06:07.600 everybody's already doing. So comics is a you know what 4:06:07.640 --> 4:06:09.840 I'm saying, I don't know about yourself. Yeah, I don't 4:06:09.920 --> 4:06:14.120 have to be in the competition. My competition is but 4:06:14.440 --> 4:06:18.080 you know, coming in cookies, Okay, nobody really has cookies. 4:06:18.160 --> 4:06:23.440 So now I can move only marijuana cookies. Well there's 4:06:23.480 --> 4:06:25.880 what I can do. I can put Daryl makes cookies, 4:06:25.920 --> 4:06:30.800 marijuana cookies inside the dispensery. I'll be I'd be an endorser. Okay, 4:06:30.920 --> 4:06:36.040 that's because I'm speaking of that. But everything's good. See 4:06:36.240 --> 4:06:38.880 I didn't just come to do your show. See whatever 4:06:38.960 --> 4:06:40.760 you want, we're gonna really do it and you're gonna 4:06:40.960 --> 4:06:44.600 end it. No, I can really do it, Dad, I 4:06:44.720 --> 4:06:48.560 lost my treads on Daryl makes cookies. You're endorse it. 4:06:48.720 --> 4:06:51.720 I want to do stuff that's that I'm able to 4:06:51.800 --> 4:06:55.440 do that is not what everybody else is doing. So 4:06:55.920 --> 4:06:59.760 I can't do jam Assa Jay's kids speaking of none, 4:06:59.760 --> 4:07:02.080 they got t shirts for you that I got. Jam 4:07:02.160 --> 4:07:04.880 Master Jay's kids do the pre road joints called Jamj's 4:07:04.880 --> 4:07:09.000 like coming a cassette thing. Oh jamjs Oh was that right? Exactly? 4:07:09.160 --> 4:07:12.040 That's why. But yeah, the cookies is just another thing 4:07:12.120 --> 4:07:14.480 that I want to do that makes people happy. And 4:07:14.840 --> 4:07:17.280 oh here's my train of thought. When I did the 4:07:17.400 --> 4:07:20.360 cookie things, everybody at my gym is like, yo, what's 4:07:20.360 --> 4:07:23.240 so with the protein cookies? So I'm doing these cookies. 4:07:23.280 --> 4:07:25.960 The next cookie is the protein cookies. But it's not 4:07:26.080 --> 4:07:28.480 a healthy cookie. Don't even remember, right, it's a cookie 4:07:28.560 --> 4:07:35.560 with protein in it that for your protein. I thinks, no, no, no, never, 4:07:35.680 --> 4:07:39.240 that never did. I'm gonna make them vegan, not caring, 4:07:39.400 --> 4:07:41.720 no koe. Yeah, I had kel chips and ship brew 4:07:41.800 --> 4:07:44.000 in my life. But it's like, so. 4:07:45.640 --> 4:07:49.320 I'm trying to I'm trying to put that and it's common. 4:07:49.400 --> 4:07:51.600 My whole thing is this, and when me and Rick 4:07:51.680 --> 4:07:54.040 started to Comic book Company, this ain't just the thing 4:07:54.080 --> 4:07:56.560 where I don't want five years and ten years or 4:07:56.600 --> 4:07:59.360 even twenty years and people go, remember that common book 4:07:59.440 --> 4:08:02.880 DMC had one hundred years from now, two hundred years 4:08:02.880 --> 4:08:08.760 from now, when they people talk about Fred Flintstone, spider Man, Superman, and. 4:08:08.800 --> 4:08:11.000 I don't even you don't even gotta like my hero. 4:08:11.800 --> 4:08:14.360 You ain't even gonna like my character. I want you 4:08:14.480 --> 4:08:17.280 to connect with the character that you feel closer to you. 4:08:17.680 --> 4:08:19.960 So just like my cookies, I want my cookies to 4:08:20.080 --> 4:08:24.040 be writer. Oh you got Nobisco, you got Keebler, you 4:08:24.160 --> 4:08:30.000 got Tats, you got Petrits for him, and kids fifty 4:08:30.080 --> 4:08:33.000 years ago will be able to their parents and their 4:08:33.040 --> 4:08:35.280 grandparent will say, Yo, this is this hip hop god. 4:08:35.360 --> 4:08:38.840 This is good for our culture and our cultural existence. 4:08:39.040 --> 4:08:40.640 Like he was saying, I'm gonna tell you something. What 4:08:40.760 --> 4:08:45.320 I want DMC the comic book to be. I want 4:08:45.400 --> 4:08:49.840 you to get with Snoop and have Snoop's own version 4:08:50.080 --> 4:08:52.680 of that, right, so it'd be a crossover, like you 4:08:52.720 --> 4:08:54.200 know what I mean. And then you get with like, 4:08:54.440 --> 4:08:57.000 for instance, a minute, I thought of that. I thought 4:08:57.040 --> 4:08:59.480 of Kodak Black, Right, Kodak Black is this new guy 4:08:59.520 --> 4:09:03.280 from this new generator. But he's a superhero too, you 4:09:03.320 --> 4:09:05.800 know what I mean. His superhero strengths might be different 4:09:06.080 --> 4:09:10.520 from a na superhero strength. Oh no, what I'm saying 4:09:10.640 --> 4:09:13.440 is I think you should go to give each individual, 4:09:13.680 --> 4:09:17.600 like to me generation, every artist has a version of 4:09:17.640 --> 4:09:20.800 a superhero, like how he said, So why not why 4:09:20.880 --> 4:09:27.400 not come on off top like and it's crazy. I 4:09:27.440 --> 4:09:30.640 would think of you God, like that character of you hard, like, 4:09:30.880 --> 4:09:33.240 like you know you God, and like you know, make 4:09:33.280 --> 4:09:34.040 a whole little. 4:09:34.560 --> 4:09:35.520 A cartoon out of that. 4:09:35.800 --> 4:09:37.880 That's something that I'm just being honest with you because 4:09:38.040 --> 4:09:40.880 that's something that we when I get my network on 4:09:40.960 --> 4:09:43.680 Cartoon Network. Okay, that's what I'm going ship. Damn. 4:09:44.280 --> 4:09:46.640 See that's what I'm thinking. I even want to do 4:09:47.760 --> 4:09:50.320 d m C TV. You know what my tagline is, 4:09:50.520 --> 4:09:52.960 and everybody loves to do that. Ship d d m 4:09:53.080 --> 4:09:57.200 C TV what MTV used to be and show videos 4:09:57.240 --> 4:09:59.680 and no reality and show bands and new ship young 4:09:59.720 --> 4:10:01.560 and all talent. I said that the other day, and 4:10:01.600 --> 4:10:03.640 I'm like, WHOA, I'm gonna have to go sit down 4:10:03.760 --> 4:10:05.280 with like an investment company saying. 4:10:05.160 --> 4:10:08.440 Let's do this ship and advertisers killed to be on 4:10:08.560 --> 4:10:13.400 DMC TV. Absolutely before you know the diversity of our 4:10:13.440 --> 4:10:18.400 culture musically sing us new bands, all that shit, Like, 4:10:18.480 --> 4:10:22.880 there's so many day lost souls and slick ricks of 4:10:23.000 --> 4:10:26.400 this yearneration. They're just not getting their opportunity, you know 4:10:26.400 --> 4:10:31.680 what I'm saying. So us as people who who walk 4:10:31.800 --> 4:10:33.760 the walk and talk to talk, we walk. 4:10:33.680 --> 4:10:36.360 This way moving, Yeah, all of us who walk this 4:10:36.560 --> 4:10:41.920 way in this very tricky business, no unentertendent. Now I'm 4:10:41.960 --> 4:10:43.360 trying to encourage around. 4:10:43.520 --> 4:10:47.680 Yes it is. It's trickery, very trickery around and we 4:10:47.840 --> 4:10:52.680 made it, you know what I'm saying. 4:10:52.720 --> 4:10:55.560 But now hip hop is fifty years old, we just 4:10:55.640 --> 4:10:58.240 get started. Not only do do we need more artists 4:10:58.280 --> 4:11:01.840 and talent ownership is stuff like that, we need more 4:11:02.080 --> 4:11:07.360 suits behind the desk in the corporations. So if we 4:11:07.520 --> 4:11:11.400 include everything that hip hop is capable of, we can. 4:11:11.360 --> 4:11:14.160 Accomplish those things to the point where we can be 4:11:14.320 --> 4:11:20.080 so potent that damn nobody's buying Louis anymore. The all 4:11:20.120 --> 4:11:23.280 the Louis people. When I'm talking about generationally, the old 4:11:23.360 --> 4:11:26.360 eighty six year old lady walking in stores that we 4:11:26.600 --> 4:11:30.360 created with our designers and buying those pieces for those 4:11:30.440 --> 4:11:33.840 same price points. We can do that, and all we 4:11:33.920 --> 4:11:35.920 got to do is turn that focus of their. 4:11:35.920 --> 4:11:40.880 Energy, give the appreciation and intention of why you buying 4:11:40.960 --> 4:11:44.000 it for in the first place to the people that's 4:11:44.040 --> 4:11:46.600 right here in our communities, so that we can become 4:11:46.680 --> 4:11:49.400 the next Horrist docles like I don't need to start 4:11:49.400 --> 4:11:51.920 another sneaker company. I need to be a partner and 4:11:52.160 --> 4:11:55.880 owner in Adidas moving forward. So we are all of 4:11:55.960 --> 4:11:59.640 those things. And I think this is just the sort. 4:11:59.680 --> 4:12:03.240 But me Race only did this to here. If you're 4:12:03.360 --> 4:12:07.520 if you're a comic book artist and now you know 4:12:07.600 --> 4:12:08.120 you gotta go. 4:12:08.200 --> 4:12:10.560 Through the you gotta sign me to super Dog. Got 4:12:10.640 --> 4:12:13.200 y'all sorry about you got it? Super Dog? Yeah, gotcha 4:12:14.240 --> 4:12:16.240 is done, is done. I don't worry about it. That 4:12:16.280 --> 4:12:20.720 would definitely with dogs does Answerer Hero. Here's how deep 4:12:20.840 --> 4:12:23.360 hip hop we are when we do we have artists 4:12:23.440 --> 4:12:26.600 do the work. Yeah, you know, I was fire because 4:12:26.800 --> 4:12:30.080 after we finished the whole book, we invite a Griffiti 4:12:30.200 --> 4:12:33.560 artist to come tag the universe. So you know, a 4:12:33.640 --> 4:12:35.720 lot of times the artists will do the graffiti. No, 4:12:36.240 --> 4:12:37.360 you did the artwork. 4:12:38.080 --> 4:12:41.080 Now I get the book in the art to graffiti 4:12:41.200 --> 4:12:44.080 artists and they go into my universe and really tag it. 4:12:44.560 --> 4:12:47.360 So that's how delicate and fun tune we gotta get 4:12:47.360 --> 4:12:49.320 with this hip hop ship. You know what I'm saying, 4:12:49.520 --> 4:12:52.920 and that I believe that's what we're edited. No, I 4:12:52.960 --> 4:12:56.640 don't like believing. I know that's because if I believe it, 4:12:56.640 --> 4:12:59.880 it might not happen for everybody else. But if I know, 4:13:00.520 --> 4:13:02.000 that's what can't happen for you. 4:13:02.640 --> 4:13:04.520 Yo, Man, I'm just being honest with you. This is 4:13:04.600 --> 4:13:07.440 such a pleasure, This is such an honor, This was 4:13:07.560 --> 4:13:11.040 such a a fulfiller for me. Man, you know what 4:13:11.080 --> 4:13:14.560 I mean, Like, you truly are a hero. You truly 4:13:14.640 --> 4:13:16.480 are a legend. You truly are I car and you 4:13:16.520 --> 4:13:20.840 truly are tight and you truly are you know everything 4:13:21.080 --> 4:13:22.960 that you deserve. So we wanted to really give you 4:13:23.000 --> 4:13:25.040 your flowers, man, because I got them. You know what 4:13:25.040 --> 4:13:26.200 I mean, you wanted to. 4:13:26.560 --> 4:13:28.680 I mean, you know that's physically but even you know 4:13:28.680 --> 4:13:34.280 what I mean, because mant. 4:13:34.080 --> 4:13:38.400 Misday No, No, but that's the purpose of this exactly. 4:13:38.800 --> 4:13:40.880 But you know you are. 4:13:42.320 --> 4:13:44.840 You are the definition of longevity. You know what I'm saying, 4:13:45.120 --> 4:13:49.280 Like so many people. You know, I don't want to 4:13:49.280 --> 4:13:51.280 say I laugh at people sometimes, but sometimes I see 4:13:51.280 --> 4:13:54.120 people coming in this game. They got a hot one year. 4:13:55.080 --> 4:13:58.160 And boy ask these people in the world to order 4:13:58.280 --> 4:14:00.840 the people that came before them. And then then that 4:14:01.160 --> 4:14:03.400 next year you see them go away. You know what 4:14:03.440 --> 4:14:05.320 I mean. So in order to be here for this 4:14:05.800 --> 4:14:08.160 this year is you had to see if I see it, 4:14:08.600 --> 4:14:10.440 I know how many people you saw come and go. 4:14:11.400 --> 4:14:14.040 I don't see how many people. So what we wanted 4:14:14.080 --> 4:14:17.440 to do is praise our legends man, and you are 4:14:17.520 --> 4:14:19.520 one of them. You are definitely well. You know what 4:14:19.720 --> 4:14:22.600 you You did something that needed to be done because 4:14:23.200 --> 4:14:26.520 when I was thinking about all like hip hop, you're 4:14:26.640 --> 4:14:29.560 doing what needs to be done while setting an example. 4:14:29.880 --> 4:14:32.480 Because the beautiful thing what I noticed when you speak 4:14:32.560 --> 4:14:37.160 to Mick and Keith or Joe and see from Ryl 4:14:37.200 --> 4:14:39.880 Smith it's an interview about them, but they go into 4:14:39.920 --> 4:14:44.920 the black blues artists. Ye as big, as as huge 4:14:44.960 --> 4:14:48.040 as the Stones is, as rich as the Stones is. 4:14:48.560 --> 4:14:51.400 So y'all doing something that Bump talks about a lot. 4:14:51.880 --> 4:14:54.640 I hear Harris want talk about it that in ll 4:14:55.040 --> 4:14:59.040 just he's doing wonders with rock bells. He came. He 4:14:59.320 --> 4:15:01.640 was like, off man, when you see Miles Davis, you 4:15:01.680 --> 4:15:04.560 ain't thinking about his make account, right, Yeah, I heard 4:15:04.640 --> 4:15:07.760 him say that because the richest number one selling artists 4:15:07.840 --> 4:15:10.600 that add their little one hit wonder that it's a 4:15:10.800 --> 4:15:12.320 celebrity and really famous. 4:15:13.080 --> 4:15:17.280 Still they'll get on Entertainment tonight before them. But Ella saying, 4:15:17.360 --> 4:15:19.960 now this ship right here that we have, it's beautiful 4:15:20.040 --> 4:15:25.040 that y'all taking upon yourselves to acknowledge that, but not 4:15:25.200 --> 4:15:28.360 only talk about your showcasing. It's one thing. You know, 4:15:28.440 --> 4:15:30.440 you could just have your podcast and at the end 4:15:30.440 --> 4:15:33.760 of every record shout out to the legs y'all bringing them. 4:15:33.720 --> 4:15:38.640 On because you know what it is. You know, that's 4:15:38.680 --> 4:15:42.080 one of the beautiful, beauty, beautifulest parts of this show 4:15:42.760 --> 4:15:46.360 is you know, sometimes we will interview an artist and 4:15:46.400 --> 4:15:47.760 then all of a sudden, I just look at their 4:15:47.800 --> 4:15:50.360 Instagram and they out every weekend after that, and you 4:15:50.440 --> 4:15:52.640 know what I mean, Like, it's just like and that's 4:15:52.680 --> 4:15:55.560 the best point because because what it is is sometimes 4:15:56.040 --> 4:15:58.280 it's just an unforgetting herod. You know what I'm saying, Like, 4:15:58.440 --> 4:16:00.880 like a lot of us and then, yeah, you don't 4:16:00.880 --> 4:16:03.760 want us to be like the veterans, like these wars 4:16:03.840 --> 4:16:06.440 for right exactly. So I want to keep us alive, 4:16:06.520 --> 4:16:07.720 you know what I mean. I want to keep us. 4:16:08.160 --> 4:16:11.400 This is a reminders of the audience. They know about 4:16:11.480 --> 4:16:13.800 me now while I'm living and not finding out about 4:16:13.880 --> 4:16:14.800 you talking about me. 4:16:15.280 --> 4:16:17.840 What about legends? DMC? I know what he did? He does? Oh, 4:16:18.880 --> 4:16:20.840 so I want you to This is your house. Anytime 4:16:20.880 --> 4:16:22.480 you want to promote. I don't even even care if 4:16:22.520 --> 4:16:24.880 you want to promote eyebrows. It's okay. You can come 4:16:24.920 --> 4:16:27.600 over here and come over here anytime you want your 4:16:27.640 --> 4:16:32.640 new news. But your little toe now, no matter what 4:16:32.760 --> 4:16:34.400 you want to out here. You know what I mean, 4:16:34.480 --> 4:16:36.400 we we here. This is your house. You know what 4:16:36.440 --> 4:16:43.320 I mean. This is run dmc house, you know. So 4:16:43.680 --> 4:16:45.080 I want you to know that, man, I want you 4:16:45.120 --> 4:16:47.000 to know how important you are. You're like that big 4:16:47.080 --> 4:16:49.800 Daddy Cane and Bismarck to me because they were my 4:16:49.960 --> 4:16:55.040 drunk run, my forty drinking run. I would always go 4:16:55.120 --> 4:16:57.720 to Cane Hut. I'm surprised y'all didn't ask him. There 4:16:57.760 --> 4:17:00.720 was crazy Kane only drink red wine now, well, but 4:17:00.880 --> 4:17:03.160 back then he wasn't drinking the forties. He would invite 4:17:03.200 --> 4:17:05.000 me over his house. I would go over his house 4:17:05.120 --> 4:17:08.760 and empty out his fidget sh and fill it up 4:17:08.800 --> 4:17:12.280 with forties. And he called his mother, Mom, you would 4:17:12.320 --> 4:17:14.680 have no idea what's going on? That's how all that 4:17:14.720 --> 4:17:18.680 I was DMC. Yes, Mom, that DMC just came in 4:17:18.760 --> 4:17:21.680 and took all my food and shit and filled the 4:17:22.400 --> 4:17:26.320 refrigerator with forties. Rest in peace of biz Mark, Rest 4:17:26.360 --> 4:17:26.640 in peace. 4:17:28.400 --> 4:17:31.720 Right before he passed, his wife was calling people for 4:17:31.880 --> 4:17:33.040 words of encouragement. 4:17:33.160 --> 4:17:34.520 Okay, I heard. 4:17:34.440 --> 4:17:38.080 About Yes, called me and said, I need you. You 4:17:38.160 --> 4:17:39.880 know he can hear us this and that boom. He 4:17:39.960 --> 4:17:42.400 can't respond, but we know he can hear us. I 4:17:42.560 --> 4:17:47.000 need something for you to tell Bismark And she said, wow, 4:17:47.440 --> 4:17:48.680 this is that's that's. 4:17:49.040 --> 4:17:52.680 Like I feel like crying. I said, tell Biz and 4:17:52.800 --> 4:17:56.080 he's going to know what I'm talking about. Just whispering 4:17:56.160 --> 4:18:01.120 is the DMC says thanks for letting me in. I 4:18:01.200 --> 4:18:06.880 would be in a drunk stupor three two in the morning, No, 4:18:07.040 --> 4:18:08.720 Matt and I would go to Bi's house and. 4:18:10.960 --> 4:18:14.800 And if it wasn't his family, Steve c at the 4:18:14.920 --> 4:18:18.000 don't let him in. This would always let me in 4:18:18.120 --> 4:18:20.720 long Holes. No in Long nine, Long Island when he 4:18:20.760 --> 4:18:22.560 lived in Jersey. I think it was any of my 4:18:22.640 --> 4:18:23.520 house in Jersey. 4:18:25.200 --> 4:18:28.320 Three, you know, one in four and to the point 4:18:28.360 --> 4:18:33.320 where he would be on the road, it's hold on 4:18:34.440 --> 4:18:36.440 and if people would let me in his house. And 4:18:36.560 --> 4:18:38.320 I looked back and I said, I look back and 4:18:38.920 --> 4:18:42.520 what I was doing now? But biz Marky will always 4:18:42.600 --> 4:18:45.760 let me in, and Kane would always let me. I 4:18:45.920 --> 4:18:48.520 love King God, Damn, I spake some noise for that moment. 4:18:52.520 --> 4:18:55.840 Thank you for having me. Let me just reveal one 4:18:56.000 --> 4:18:58.360 thing I never thought I would be on the show Man. 4:18:58.360 --> 4:19:01.720 We've been trying though. No, was not drinking when when 4:19:02.720 --> 4:19:06.840 my managers, Bro Little little Eric Blam was saying this 4:19:07.000 --> 4:19:10.480 and that they really they want me, Like. 4:19:10.600 --> 4:19:15.320 Just for some reason, I didn't think I was cool enough. Really, 4:19:16.160 --> 4:19:18.880 you're cool enough for you to be here. Yes, I 4:19:18.960 --> 4:19:23.120 think you. Thank you. That's a compliment to yo, the compliment. 4:19:24.440 --> 4:19:26.840 I'm honored and humble to sat that that was on 4:19:26.920 --> 4:19:28.680 your mind. I'm gonna be honest with you. Like I 4:19:28.760 --> 4:19:31.360 said earlier, I wasn't saying this because it sounds good 4:19:31.880 --> 4:19:34.320 like in a lot of ways. You was the first 4:19:35.160 --> 4:19:38.040 commercial successful coming out of our burrow like you was. 4:19:38.560 --> 4:19:40.200 I want to say national, but I want to say 4:19:40.240 --> 4:19:41.960 world wide. You know what I mean? Like you know 4:19:42.000 --> 4:19:44.440 what I mean. Like before that we had records in 4:19:44.800 --> 4:19:47.520 Queens and things like that. But like the first time 4:19:47.560 --> 4:19:49.960 I seen Walk this Way, that was on MTV, this 4:19:50.280 --> 4:19:54.360 SUPERSTI you guys, was in between like five different like 4:19:54.480 --> 4:19:57.480 you know, white category videos and this remember right over that. 4:19:57.640 --> 4:20:00.280 I can see that level that's crazy to me. And 4:20:00.440 --> 4:20:02.800 like and then then it's from Queens. You know what 4:20:02.800 --> 4:20:05.080 I'm saying. I know him being a DJ, you know 4:20:05.120 --> 4:20:08.360 with Jam Message J. I know this guy, where's Adidas 4:20:08.400 --> 4:20:08.880 to this day? 4:20:09.240 --> 4:20:10.000 Cose of you guys? 4:20:10.120 --> 4:20:10.640 You know what I mean? 4:20:12.200 --> 4:20:13.560 So this means the world to us. 4:20:13.680 --> 4:20:16.120 You know what I'm saying. Big up. First off, I 4:20:16.200 --> 4:20:17.960 want to say rest in pieces of Jam Massa J, 4:20:18.120 --> 4:20:22.320 his family, my condolass and also you know know, big 4:20:22.440 --> 4:20:24.880 up to I'm gonna call him DJ Ryn, you know 4:20:24.880 --> 4:20:27.440 what I mean, And big up to the whole run 4:20:27.520 --> 4:20:30.560 DMC family. Because in all honesty, like I said, if 4:20:30.600 --> 4:20:32.360 it wasn't for y'all, I don't think this show would 4:20:32.360 --> 4:20:34.720 even exist. I don't think I would exist as the 4:20:34.800 --> 4:20:37.040 artists don't think he would. 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