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Speaker 2: Drink chans post days New Year's Csten, It's time for

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Speaker 3: Drink up, motherfuck.

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Speaker 2: Would a good be hoping this super This is your

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Speaker 2: Yeppy Hour, make some Nu. Now, when me and e

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Speaker 2: FN started this show, we said that we wanted to

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Speaker 2: highlight like icons, we wanted to highlight legends. We want

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Speaker 2: to highlight people who paved the way for us. Now,

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Speaker 2: to introduce in a lot of ways, if it wasn't

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Speaker 2: different version of them. These people have. They come from

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Speaker 2: It wouldn't be this show. These guys are legends. They

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Speaker 2: They are the definition of of of keeping it real.

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Speaker 2: They are the definition of legends. They are a definition

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Speaker 2: when I look up icon, that's who I see. In

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Speaker 2: case you don't know who the fuck were talking about,

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Speaker 2: We're talking about the one, the only, motherfucking d m

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Speaker 2: c yo. I got a lie, crazy, what what is this? Okay?

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Speaker 2: I want to start with this. This is a comic.

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Speaker 3: Holy comic book I made for a song that I

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Speaker 3: He was like, yo, I got icy Chuck Dy and

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Speaker 3: comic book. Yeah, because bum was like, you guys the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys are my superheroes. Let's face anoy for that,

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Speaker 2: spacenoy for that. So let's let's take it from the beginning, right.

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Speaker 2: We just had Leo Cohns on right, and Leo Leo

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because our first manager got fired. Oh wow, and

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Speaker 3: So what had happened was he just woke up one

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Speaker 3: One of Jay's friends was in romanage, but he got

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Speaker 2: But yeah, the Jay's friend road manager was a crack fiend.

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Speaker 3: The first day he spoke, he had to smoke it

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Speaker 2: So he got fired. But this was the time where

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Speaker 2: USA Express Okay, okay, which directly the lad y'all remember

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Speaker 3: First he would call every day. Then he showed up

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Speaker 3: just hanging out the office. Now, for anybody listening, that's

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Speaker 3: very aggressive. Yeah, in that room all too right, you

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Speaker 3: it all right. And the question was you had a passport?

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Speaker 3: And then ever since then, Wow, that's how it was,

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Speaker 2: For me, it was like a blip. It was like

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Speaker 3: He said, he's in the road a lot of lot

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Speaker 2: Recipes, Yes, great, so this and that.

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Speaker 3: Man Cow from Chicago, big radio journalistic personality. Me and

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Speaker 3: Combat and man Col we said, please, people, little kids,

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Speaker 2: On his show. You know, the coke in the eighties

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Speaker 2: What it was it was, it was it was an

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Speaker 3: So it's like me saying, you know, the champagne back

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Speaker 3: Like Dad, I keep it real too, okay where I'm at,

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Speaker 2: I'm from christ when that happened, What what what what happened?

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Speaker 3: I think doctor dre Our doctor was in the room

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Speaker 3: we were signed the Profile Record.

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Speaker 2: Before the album. This is Profile Records exactly.

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Speaker 3: So he was always on Profile Records and so so.

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Speaker 2: It was Rush Management, which officially became Rush Management became

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Speaker 2: Violator all years years okay, the little Violator became a

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Speaker 2: part of Rush manage to get that whole thing. Random

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Speaker 2: c was always on Profile records, came out on Profile

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Speaker 2: records with its light than circum Seeds put the record out.

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Speaker 2: It worked, sucam Seeds. Now a lot of people think

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 2: Rock Box was the first hip hop video on MTV TV. Yes,

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Speaker 2: The greatest hip hop rappers in history. The greatest period

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Speaker 3: We didn't want to, okay, but some of the checks

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Speaker 2: So what you had to triple plattin that shit don't

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Speaker 2: We were a culture that is eternal, that never changes,

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Speaker 2: When we did hard Times, it's like that was Russell

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Speaker 3: But by us doing that, what the fuck were you?

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Meland Kas and all of

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Speaker 2: to say to you, Nori. The first MC, the first

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Speaker 3: But they rightfully so, because what did I say when

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Speaker 3: You came doing this ship that they created. Russell being

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Speaker 3: He's hitting me and run every minute. Y'all need stage clothes,

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Speaker 3: y'all needed to y'all need to get me and rama say, yeah,

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Speaker 3: we do, Russell, but we ain't war.

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Speaker 2: But is it true that he told y'all to dress

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Speaker 2: He wanted us to. He wanted us to. I will

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Speaker 2: look came from this. There's picture. There's a famous picture

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Speaker 2: So what we I used to do? I used to

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Speaker 2: I had no fucking money and it so what ha

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00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 2: happened once when we put Ja down the the DJ

436
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 2: Jay's not in that picture because our first show at

437
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 2: the Fever, our first show at the Fever, Jim Message

438
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 2: Jay missed it because he went down to Jamaica Avenue

439
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 2: the shop for year Rebel Knock Central E.

440
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 3: I M so you know about this thing called sound check.

441
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 3: So we played a Fever damn A six thirty. We

442
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 3: had to leave Ja, so Jacob cried all ninety six.

443
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:31,360
Speaker 3: So the second time we played the Fever, Jay wasn't

444
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 3: going to be late. But when we pull up to

445
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 3: pick up Jake, like in the beginning, I was wearing

446
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,439
Speaker 3: Pullmans at show at in the beginning, blue poom with

447
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 3: blue sweave pool with the white striped black flat lazers,

448
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:42,640
Speaker 3: a black yeah, flat.

449
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 2: Lazers, Okay, yeah, yeah, okay, okay.

450
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 3: Blue soup jacket and Kangles I was Kangle run was

451
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:52,880
Speaker 3: just his curly hair, side burned fly.

452
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Sexy motherfucker. So this show,

453
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 2: we pull up to Jay's.

454
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:01,119
Speaker 3: House on two thirty Hollards and Jay we beat him

455
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 3: Horn for J and Larry Smith, the greatest hip hop

456
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 3: producer ever that nobody knows about. Larry Smith, who held

457
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 3: down four decades, I mean four years of hip hop

458
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 3: by hisself. He produced the whole Rundium See album by herself,

459
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 3: He produced the King of Rock album by himself, and

460
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,239
Speaker 3: he produced who Denie's groundbreaking the album French Freets Come

461
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 3: Out the Night five by himself. So Larry Smith needs

462
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 3: a movie, and he needs a documentary, and he fucking

463
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 3: needs a fucking Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Award.

464
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:37,719
Speaker 2: Talk to d talk to Premier, talk to Doctor Dre,

465
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 2: talk to Pete Rock, Talk to these DJ's Larry Smith.

466
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 3: Our success was on Larry Smith. So lonso show, we

467
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 3: pull up to Jay's house. He comes out the front

468
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 3: door of his crib.

469
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 2: He got the Godfather had on right, He got the

470
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 2: black with the white stripe Adida jacking on.

471
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 3: He got the black Lee's on. He got the brand

472
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 3: new white Superstars with the black stripe on the side

473
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 3: and the tongues is sticking up like tombstone. And he

474
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:11,159
Speaker 3: got the four speaker JVC box. As soon as he

475
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,439
Speaker 3: stepped on his stoop before Russell said that issue, Me

476
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 3: and Room was like, that's our looks. So Jay was

477
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 3: not only the sound, it was the.

478
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 2: Fucking Me and Run was all over the place, Wow,

479
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 2: all over the place. And you said your first was

480
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 2: a seal sucker checker all tell all type of ship.

481
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 2: But I was a cool motherfucker though, because I knew

482
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 2: BVD nylons bb that motherfucker. I just a lot though

483
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 2: that day were the worst for that. BBD have my

484
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 2: red BBD all of that ship.

485
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 3: Boy, Me and Run was all over the place until

486
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 3: Jay came along and brought us together.

487
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,360
Speaker 2: J brought it all together. Now was was the gazelles.

488
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,719
Speaker 2: A part of that was this is funny.

489
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 3: I love this because you said you never knew he

490
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 3: wasn't on death Gennad something else I never wore as else.

491
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 3: The glasses I wore were alter goliaths. They had the

492
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 3: shape of the gazelles, but they never I never wore

493
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 3: as else. Go back and look at all my pictures

494
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 3: and before the offer and Leo had something to do

495
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 3: with the altar garlias, before the alter calias. They were

496
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 3: just my basic Cohen lenses that I was wearing the

497
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 3: school wall, and Run was actually the guy that told

498
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 3: me to wear the glasses because we went to I

499
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 3: went to Catholic school my whole life, so I'm funny.

500
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 3: I was always in the smart class. Rum was always

501
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 3: in the other class because there was it was like

502
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 3: one one one two two one two two. It's only

503
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 3: two class and two grades for these class so Rum

504
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 3: was always another class.

505
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 2: I didn't know Run.

506
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 3: The only reason Running I knew Running knew me is

507
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 3: that when they do the rogue call in the morning

508
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,400
Speaker 3: and they founded the students things.

509
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 2: You know what I said, Deborah Hamilton, So the whole

510
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 2: school looks whole ship. That's never that's how you identify.

511
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 3: So I'm in one day Joseph Simon, everybody, Oh that

512
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 3: Joey the curly motherfucker, and then John mcdanels, Oh the

513
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,919
Speaker 3: big head motherfucker. Classes that read comic books and know

514
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 3: how to jarge. So what had happened in eighth grade?

515
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 3: This is how I mean and run at in eighth

516
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 3: grade and we went to Saint Pascal Baylon Elementary School.

517
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 3: It was the last Catholic school in the hood of Hollis.

518
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 2: Wow. The nuns in the priests said, we can't give

519
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 2: up on the black kids. We're gonna stay here for him.

520
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 2: And they trooped that. We had a cool fucking basketball

521
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 2: coach named Father Rudlaw who fucking left the priesthood because

522
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 2: he found a black woman in the hood.

523
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 3: Okay, so shout out the father.

524
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 2: You know what I say. He was like, I ain't

525
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 2: trying none of this pope shit and stuff like that.

526
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 3: Comrades abusing the kids.

527
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go out and give me some. So we

528
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 2: had one rim in the bat in the school yard.

529
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 3: And for the Catholic school kids, you couldn't go nowhere

530
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 3: unless you went home and put on your play Clothes's

531
00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 3: in your uniform, yo, take your money, Smack you up

532
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 3: sides your head.

533
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 2: Take your kids. Are fucking mean. They would take other

534
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 2: kid's shoes just to fucking take them and all that.

535
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 3: So in eighth grade, David Mideachier, David mcgeecher comes to

536
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 3: Saint Pascos and he's like six three and he dunks.

537
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 2: On the rim and breaks it. So all the Catholic

538
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 2: school we cried, hold on.

539
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 3: You know, I got the best parents in the world,

540
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 3: son of byfriend, brother of al Banna's. My mother runs

541
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 3: my pal. It's McDaniel's, not McDonald's. These rhyms are darrels.

542
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 3: Those Burghers are Ronald's. I ran down my family tree,

543
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 3: my mother and father, my brother and me. I had

544
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 3: the best parents in the world. My father put a

545
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 3: rim in the backyard.

546
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 2: So now don't cry, kids, The McDaniel's family got your back.

547
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 2: Now all the kids after school could come to my house,

548
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 2: which is like a five minute walter from school. Wow.

549
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 3: So every every day after school it's about thirty kids

550
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 3: from school playing ball. One particular day is just Joseph

551
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 3: Simon home with his basketball. Comes over. I'm like, yo,

552
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 3: we're Doug with Craig. Tell God to go to the dinners.

553
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 3: Craig is on punishment. Okay, it's just me and you.

554
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 3: So we play ball, right, one played one on one.

555
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 3: I need to know who won this run? He was

556
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 3: he was running, was running table the balls. I wasn't glad.

557
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 3: I just played like you know, I just well, I'm

558
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 3: trying to be cool.

559
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 2: I'm a common real nerve.

560
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 3: I'm trying to you know what I'm saying.

561
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,239
Speaker 2: I'm only playing ball for the same reason that I

562
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 2: started fucking smoking weed and became an alcoholic. Now I

563
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 2: didn't like I said no, So we played ball and

564
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 2: we would get out of school too. Ten.

565
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 3: My mother and father they get home from work at

566
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 3: four pm. So when you was little, what was the

567
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 3: rule when your parents wasn't home?

568
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 2: No company? Yeah, no company, that's right kind now company.

569
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 2: So what I usually do is when we finished playing ball,

570
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 2: I go and get the juggle water. And you remember, Dixie,

571
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 2: are they selling me cups?

572
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 3: Yeah?

573
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 2: You sure that not. I'm gonna be Daryl makes cups,

574
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 2: bring back fucking cups. Don't wear disposable cups. Why is

575
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 2: this Dixie stilling? Is this? It's how did the cookies

576
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 2: in comic books. I'm just say she MOTHERFUCKERSNA say do

577
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 2: that ship And I said, so run is the only

578
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 2: kid this.

579
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 3: So instead of bringing the water to him, I say,

580
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 3: come in the house. So he comes in the house.

581
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 3: He sees my brother's turntables and he goes, yo, do

582
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 3: you do that?

583
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 2: And I got to know because that was my hip

584
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 2: hop to me was my little secret thing. But then

585
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 2: he goes, yo, my brother is Russell Simmons this and

586
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 2: they starts laying out to four women. Russell Simmons was

587
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 2: known at this time huge. Okay, go ahead, continue, huge

588
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 2: rush party.

589
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 3: He was like, do you own the telephone poles? You

590
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 3: ever see the flyers and the posters of the Rush party?

591
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 3: So Russell was huge. Russell was known for arross was

592
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 3: getting money.

593
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 2: You know. Back then. He was like, I'm the son

594
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 2: of Curtis Blow.

595
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 3: So what we would do is before my mother and

596
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 3: father come up, we played one game of basketball and

597
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 3: going to basement and DJ.

598
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 2: So that's how he knew that I had skilled.

599
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 3: So when he was going to make a record as

600
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 3: a solo artist because he was the son of Curtis Blow,

601
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 3: Curtis Blower put out the Brakes, the first Christmas record

602
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 3: DoD y'all know before Christmas in Hollis.

603
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 2: It was a that was Curtis Christmas wrapping. Yeah yeah, yeah.

604
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 2: So run was always in Russel. Let me make a record,

605
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 2: Let me make a record, Let me make a record,

606
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 2: Let me make a record. Russell was like, no, no, no, no, no,

607
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 2: no no no, you're too young. You're too young, too young.

608
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 2: So Joe was persistent, and Russell says this to Joe. Okay, Joey,

609
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 2: that's what Russell want to get last. Okay, Joey, you

610
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 2: show me a high school diploma. I'll let you go

611
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 2: in the studio and make a record. So Run was like, okay,

612
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 2: I don't remember that. He was in what tenth grade,

613
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 2: tenth grade, eleventh grade, twelfth grade. Here you go, Russell.

614
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 2: So Run was going in the studio to make a record.

615
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 3: He remembered the kid with the big hair and the

616
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 3: glasses in the comic book dmc Darryl McDaniel's got some rhymes.

617
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 2: So he calls me up, Chris, me and a group.

618
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 2: That's what got me sitting here today. Well, like I

619
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 2: wanted to do none of the show. I wrote rhymes

620
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 2: for me, Nourie, not for you. They hate him.

621
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 3: Shit, that's crazy, and I didn't want nobody that shit

622
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 3: was like my diary.

623
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 2: So you're telling me.

624
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 3: This is damn near happened by accident.

625
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 2: Run had a chance to go solo. He had a

626
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 2: chance to do whatever he had a record court. He

627
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 2: came over my house. He would he would come to

628
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 2: my house and play me tape show last night. I

629
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 2: was with Juelo Nation last night, I was with the

630
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 2: Crash Crew. Shout out to the Crash Crew, one of

631
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 2: the greatest groups in hip hop that they always forget about.

632
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 2: He would show me these tapes of stuff. So he's

633
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 2: I'm a fan and he's doing it. So I'm looking

634
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 2: at him in awe and respect because he's doing He

635
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 2: was with.

636
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 3: Flash last night.

637
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

638
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 3: When he was going to make his record, he had

639
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 3: a record called street Kid, I'm Just a street Kid.

640
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 2: Street Kid, I'm just the street.

641
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 3: Member rap used to be trying to make it and

642
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 3: the music would play and sit like that, and he

643
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 3: had his old record run out of his old raps,

644
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 3: and I was like, O Joe and whatever whatever.

645
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 2: But then he said, nah, fuck that DMC. I was

646
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 2: int DMC. I was easy, D easy easy.

647
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 3: They used to call me EASD because a rapt on

648
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 3: a mic, so easily now they called me. I didn't

649
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 3: become DMC. Tell Room put me in the group because

650
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 3: then I had to go up another level. But that's

651
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 3: a whole on story. So Run was going to be

652
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 3: a solo artist, had a recon and everything was his

653
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 3: name Run. Yeah, it was DJ Run, DJ DJ Run.

654
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 3: But then when he was about to go in to

655
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 3: get the deal, he said, nah, putting my man now.

656
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 3: And he called me up and he was like you

657
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 3: and he told me this in eighth grade, d whenever

658
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 3: Russell lets me make a record, I'm putting you in

659
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 3: my group now. I remember that when he said that

660
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 3: shit to me, it was like a foreign language. The

661
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 3: fuck you. I don't do this, you mold y'all motherfuckers

662
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 3: do this. And he said watch.

663
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 2: So this was eighth grade, ninth grade, tenth grade, eleventh grade,

664
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 2: twelve grade. We went to totally different schools. Run and

665
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 2: Jay went to Andrew Jackson including Aja Ball and like that.

666
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 2: I went to a school called Right High.

667
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 3: School, call what Rice High School one hundred and twenty

668
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 3: fourth Street and Lenox Avenue was boys Athletic School, Parl

669
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 3: Memorial Rice High School. So during that time Joe is

670
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 3: getting his deal together, I'm just in Rice High School.

671
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 3: But the beautiful thing for me, what happened to me

672
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 3: is the reason why I'm so passionate about hip hop.

673
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 2: I understand this. There's a dichotomy with our culture. Now

674
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 2: there's the music business and then there's the culture. Right,

675
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 2: I'm one hundred and fifty thousand percent culture that just

676
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 2: happens to be in the music business. So that's why

677
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 2: I didn't talk that much in the beginning.

678
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:54,919
Speaker 3: Let run all the talk. I'm just going to say

679
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 3: my rom and go to fuck home.

680
00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 2: So what happened to me was this, So Nouri and

681
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 2: e I get to Rice High School. It's one hundred

682
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 2: and twenty fourth Street in Harlem, all boys, Catholic high school,

683
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 2: congregation of Irish Christian brothers.

684
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 3: But what is so unique about this? Now, I don't

685
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 3: know what's about to happen to me. This is purpose

686
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,919
Speaker 3: and destiny. I just go to Rice because my best

687
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,240
Speaker 3: friend Doug told me, We're going to Rice. Motherfucker.

688
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 2: Okay, So I get to Rice. But I get to

689
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 2: Rice the boys and girls. The boys because of the

690
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,399
Speaker 2: old boys school, they would go to Rice. They from

691
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 2: the Bronx, They from Harlem, from Manhattan. So when I

692
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 2: get to Rice in ninth grade, they got all of

693
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 2: the performances of hip hop before rappers Delight. So Terrorce

694
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 2: Washington would come at the end of every school week

695
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 2: with a cassette tape holder, open it up and he

696
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 2: would sell the tapes like it was drugs, and it

697
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 2: would be in the school, in the school, in the school.

698
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 2: And what was beautiful about the congregation of Irish Christian

699
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 2: Brothers to connect with the black kids. This is a

700
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 2: lesson for the educational something about they let us do

701
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 2: our hip hop, They let us do our graffiti, They

702
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 2: let they they wanted our right on them do all

703
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 2: that shit. And by letting us doing that, we had

704
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 2: great students, no trouble or did trouble. Sent kid was

705
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 2: a straight a student because he got to rhyme and

706
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 2: beat on the table, he got to do his art.

707
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 2: But Terrence Washington would have you know Funky four plus

708
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 2: one nineteen seventy nine, Wow, Curtis Blow nineteen seventy seven,

709
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 2: when Curtis Blow was Flash MC Grandmaster Flash in the

710
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 2: Furious Four because Raheem wasn't in the group yet, because

711
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 2: Raheem was a member of the Funky Four. So I'm

712
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 2: saving my allowance because i didn't have a job, and

713
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 2: I'm buying all of these tapes. So from ninth grade

714
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 2: to twelfth grade, I'm getting the first and course on

715
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 2: how to be this hip hop shit, not how to

716
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 2: do it how to beat the ship. So long story

717
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 2: show again. Twelfth grade. I'm graduating, set out my resume

718
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 2: to all the schools I get home from to college school. Yeah,

719
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,439
Speaker 2: there's no emails back then. You know what I'm saying.

720
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 2: It's still using payphones all that shit. There's a letter

721
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,399
Speaker 2: says Saint John's University on it. I opened up the letter.

722
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 3: We're probably to inform you, mister McDaniels, and I felt

723
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 3: good that they called me mister.

724
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 2: Oh just you know what I'm saying, like, oh shit,

725
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 2: isn't it? But I was also scared because that means

726
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 2: I gotta grow up right.

727
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 3: Saint John's is still on Queen's Correct.

728
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, still there, Stell there, fucking Lucronoseca and fucking Walter Burry.

729
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 2: I said, oh shit, I got accepted to Saint John's University.

730
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 2: I run past my mother and father with the letter

731
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 2: down into the basement to my turntables, put on Apache,

732
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 2: and I write my rhyme, I'm dmc not go because

733
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 2: I wasn't in it. I'm going to Saint John's University

734
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 2: since kindergarten our quiet and knowledge, and that was just

735
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 2: then we just so you got the college letter and

736
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 2: you go downstairs and you premeditate, right Ryn ship get

737
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 2: that's that's iconic. B get you.

738
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,760
Speaker 3: I go back uptairs. Mom, I got accepted Saint John's University.

739
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,399
Speaker 3: But again in Saint John's University and stuff like that.

740
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 3: The phone rings, it's Joe run the same day. It's

741
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 3: not the same day I get in. This is probably

742
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 3: like the like the first week, because I'm an orient

743
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:50,959
Speaker 3: orientation college. It's Joe, yo, what's up? Deep? Remember four

744
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 3: years ago when I said, if Russell lets me make

745
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 3: correct it, Yeah, grab your ron book, We're going to

746
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 3: make correct it. We go to Green Street Recording Student.

747
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:05,240
Speaker 3: It's like that and Suckerham seas Russell goals around the labels.

748
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 3: Every label tells them, noahccept this one independent called Profile Records.

749
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 2: Profile Records takes a chance with us. Here I am today.

750
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 2: And then we made singles. Remember hip hop was your singles.

751
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 2: So then we made another single called hard Times Jam Message.

752
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 2: And that's why I brung rustling with the commercial things

753
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 2: like that. Everybody say I did it.

754
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,439
Speaker 3: Everybody say that. So we made hard Times. Check this out.

755
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 3: This is how deep this sh it is.

756
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 2: We made hard Times, which is a Curtis Blow song.

757
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 2: It's one of the first hip hop remakes. We heard it.

758
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 2: What was Yeah, it was a cover song. Curtis Ball

759
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 2: had a song called hard Times on his album where

760
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 2: he wrapped it.

761
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 3: We took it and did it.

762
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 2: It's like this.

763
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 3: So but at that time when we made us like

764
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 3: that seas, we didn't have j yet. That's why the

765
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 3: group's just run DMC. So after we put it the

766
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 3: circum seas out. The record is getting hot, it's blowing

767
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 3: up on the radio. Circum Season is killing the street,

768
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,879
Speaker 3: and it's like that. It's becoming a head across the nation.

769
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 3: But people thought he was an R and B group.

770
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 3: Oh shit, know what they thought?

771
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 2: We was kind of like the TIMEX social club type group.

772
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 2: We go on the shows. We're opening for Marvin Gaye,

773
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 2: God damn it. We opening for Parliament Funk of delic

774
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 2: We open him for the ZZ Top. How was the

775
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 2: reception in the audience?

776
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 3: How were they? I tell you we had twenty minutes.

777
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 3: He was opening for the Barcades and Confunction and the

778
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 3: Gap Band and all that shit. So we had twenty

779
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 3: minutes on these only and that is because it's like that.

780
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:43,879
Speaker 3: It's on the radio and it's like that. So they

781
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 3: thought we was a band. Russell was getting this cause

782
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 3: and then we sent us we'd show up at sound

783
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 3: check me Larry Smith running Jay with.

784
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 2: Two turntables and a record bag. They wouldn't let us

785
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 2: in BECAUSEFC you know you ain't.

786
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,399
Speaker 3: I mean we're talking yo word knocking three and four

787
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 3: times where the bouncers go, motherfuckers, if you knock on

788
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 3: this fucking door again, but we'll run DMC. Don't get

789
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 3: the fucking promoter this and the promoter came to the door.

790
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 2: This is him. But the promoters we was getting like

791
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 2: because they didn't know how y'all look it was a promoter. Yes,

792
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 2: so you understand what time this was. This is crazy.

793
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,879
Speaker 3: And the promoters would always go, you mean to pay

794
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 3: I'm paying you twenty five hundred dollars was a lot

795
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 3: of and that's a lot of money.

796
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, The pomos like, we're paying your twenty five hundred

797
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 2: fucking dollars just to play records.

798
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 3: We say, yep, So you want to know what the

799
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 3: reception is. We got twenty minutes. All right, Jay, go

800
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 3: out to ladies and gentlemen, run DMC. Crowdler's like, okay,

801
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 3: we're a fucking bad y'all wants up.

802
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 2: Your My name is Shane Massa jay boom, boom, boom,

803
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 2: put your hands in the air, boom. Somebody say run

804
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 2: call me called DMC. I call run out, yo, killing them,

805
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 2: killing them to the point where sometimes the whole audience

806
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 2: we have twenty minutes during the Marvin Gaye show, no, no,

807
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 2: bring them back on the brow?

808
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 7: Is that hell?

809
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 2: Yeah? Hol It felt fucking crazy, amazing, and we was

810
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:17,240
Speaker 2: opening up for fucking Marvin. It's crazy. So that's also

811
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 2: where our great showmanship came. And we was like, Yo,

812
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 2: this audience is like loving this ship that we do.

813
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,320
Speaker 2: So we we're not trying to be the best entertainers.

814
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 2: We're trying to be the best DJs in them sees

815
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 2: motherfuckers we've ever seen.

816
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 3: Which set up all of that exhilaration and influence for

817
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 3: everybody following us. You know what I'm saying, because now

818
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 3: we are. But when we was doing that, we knew

819
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 3: damn we representing the fucking culture right, And Jave was like,

820
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 3: we always got to watch what we say and we

821
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 3: would never go for any fake shit, no fucking sarand rapping,

822
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 3: no parody ship. We always got to be live, like

823
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 3: it was a huge responsibility, Like it was so dope.

824
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 2: I'm sorry to bounce around. It was so dope to

825
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 2: see you and Run on stage. And then it was

826
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 2: even it was even more passionate. It almost made me

827
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 2: feel like my childhood because he distinguished that this is

828
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 2: not Reverend Run on stage right he started cursing. I

829
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 2: was like, oh, you know what I'm saying, Like to

830
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 2: see that, and it was like my childhood, you know

831
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like I can understand that, Like I

832
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 2: just I just was like it felt so right, like

833
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 2: to see y'all together, you know what I mean, and

834
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 2: the way you want to see us exactly and headlining

835
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 2: goddamn Yankee Stadium before.

836
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 3: We went on Run. It's like, yo, d I guess

837
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 3: we did something that all these mother focus want us

838
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 3: to go on. Yes, that's what I think, you know,

839
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,839
Speaker 3: and you know, and it's just the thing that we

840
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 3: feel that that thing that makes snoop, that thing that

841
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 3: makes on face is the thing that might not have

842
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 3: been there if it wasn't for RENDYMC.

843
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a fact. They could have.

844
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 3: Would have died with flashing them, even to the point where,

845
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 3: like I said, Flash and Melon, all of them was

846
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 3: mad at us ntil he started seeing our interviews.

847
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 2: We would talk about them. And when you say that

848
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 2: it was a mattitude, you say because of the commercial

849
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 2: appealed that you guys was because.

850
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 3: It changed the shift that they created. Yeah, we telled

851
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:24,919
Speaker 3: the ship.

852
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 2: We came with fucking Adidas angles and gold and you

853
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 2: could go find there's pictures of meiling them with sheep

854
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 2: sins and shit. Like even Calz always says, damn man,

855
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 2: if we had put those routines on records right nineteen

856
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 2: eighty one and before this year is done, then motherfuckers

857
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 2: said that's crazy. Catz said, and this is good for

858
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 2: this time. What he said, anyone can ride around, he said,

859
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 2: any this is what the rappers should be saying now.

860
00:45:58,120 --> 00:45:58,479
Speaker 2: He said.

861
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 3: Anyone could write a rap and say yes, sure, but

862
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:04,240
Speaker 3: a real MC you do not call because you can't

863
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 3: ride a rhyme at a quarter to two to be

864
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 3: a real MC before the jam is true. For all

865
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 3: you MC's that are like that, you gotta take a

866
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 3: lesson from the good old Cap. You need a voice

867
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 3: that is clear, a DJ like Chase, a good imagination

868
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 3: and a strong, steady pace. You gotta have both feet

869
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 3: on the ground and you can't be a duck. You

870
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:27,280
Speaker 3: gotta be down. You gotta represent the hood at all times. Plush,

871
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 3: you gotta have tough and original rocks.

872
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 2: Put all that together and you know what it brings

873
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,359
Speaker 2: The grand Master and I'm a running thing.

874
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 3: So JD l hat over Big Beat.

875
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 2: So we was like, we're gonna do this ship. You

876
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 2: not fucking doing them.

877
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 4: You're really influenced by them, that's the thing. But it

878
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:46,879
Speaker 4: was influenced by them.

879
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,760
Speaker 2: Yes, we Peter Piper, Pick Peppers.

880
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 3: It was a party nine. Everybody was come on. Imagine

881
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 3: if that was meiling a national record before the message,

882
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 3: then it would be able to be doing that record

883
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 3: and then the message. So that's why when we came along,

884
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 3: we didn't want to separate what hip hop is.

885
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

886
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 3: Even Mo D before he battled out, most people know

887
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 3: Mod from when he was a regarding artist, you know

888
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. But before that, Mod and the motherfuckers

889
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 3: was Beace. You know what I'm saying. It's like the

890
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 3: old school isn't a time period. The old school is

891
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 3: a consciousness of how you present yourself, and that could

892
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 3: be as a DJ could be, as an MC could be,

893
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 3: as a graffiti artists could be as a break dancer.

894
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 3: But if you break it down, could be as the music,

895
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 3: could be, as the language, could be as the art,

896
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 3: or could be as the fashion of it.

897
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 2: So we knew we always got to be those elements.

898
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 2: Let me ask you something because at one point, like

899
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 2: when you hear like Eric being rock Kim, like the

900
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 2: DJ came like before the act and the DJ was

901
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 2: so much important, and then at some point it almost

902
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 2: seemed like the DJ was obsolete. It seemed like nobody

903
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 2: kids about the DJ more as opposed to your era,

904
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 2: where the djk every minute. I was gonna say, we

905
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 2: made hard times, right, So now we're doing all of

906
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 2: these shows, barkads, Barkad's.

907
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,760
Speaker 3: Confunction and this and that. So the question is, Okay,

908
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 3: I know that's Run and that's d MC, or okay,

909
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 3: that's Run, that's d Where's and where's C? Where's the band?

910
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 3: So there was confusion. They were C Run, DMC and

911
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 3: the street people on stage.

912
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 2: Who's that back there? Why is it? Why is that

913
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 2: guy back there?

914
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 3: Oh, y'all need and y'all need to know what this

915
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 3: ship is doing.

916
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 2: So I'm the run.

917
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 3: Put me in the group because all I did was

918
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 3: eat sleep hip hop.

919
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 2: All I did eat sleep hip hop tapes. Who's the

920
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,879
Speaker 2: new tape? Who's a new song? He hated me because

921
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 2: I would listen to the corny shit. But I wasn't

922
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 2: trying to let anything get right exactly. I was like,

923
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 2: this ship is on the record, It's gotta be some

924
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:57,359
Speaker 2: reason why this should be on earth. It might not

925
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,959
Speaker 2: even been the rabbit, might have just been the beat sound.

926
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 2: So I was like the scientist of the group. So

927
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 2: everybody was asking me, why is it three people? Don't

928
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 2: worry j I got you. When we put j first down,

929
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 2: he was jazzy J. Jazzy J.

930
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 3: He can't be jazzy j J. I'm I'm I go

931
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,720
Speaker 3: to write song. Jay, you can't be Jazzy J. That's biting,

932
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 3: you know. And Jay's so you know, Jaseke's looking at me.

933
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 3: It's weird, motherfucker just biting you. You can't do that.

934
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 2: Don't worry. J I got you. So I went home

935
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 2: and I was like, Okay, what we're gonna call it? Jason.

936
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, if you remember, the jam had

937
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 2: two meetings back then, So DJ play my favorite jam.

938
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 3: This right is the record and jar last night. Yes,

939
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:45,399
Speaker 3: I'm sitting there.

940
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 2: Oh my god. Jay's the master of it all, and

941
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 2: it just so happened his name was JA. So when

942
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 2: I said he's.

943
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 3: Gonna be he can't be the grand Master. We got

944
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 3: a bunch of those motherfuckers. Definitely can't be grand with it,

945
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 3: Like you can fuck with grand Mess, but you've got

946
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 3: grahams it and you've got grand Mixer. I'm like, I'm

947
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 3: my whole thing is I gotta even now at fifty

948
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,479
Speaker 3: nine years old, we gotta take caip up one more

949
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 3: step than nobody hasn't done. So I was like, we're

950
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 3: gonna name him the jam Master. So I go back

951
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:14,240
Speaker 3: to Janie College.

952
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 2: Oh, Jay, I got it.

953
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 3: Drum roll, your name is gonna be the jam master J.

954
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 3: You see the way that hit jam master J.

955
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 2: And then Jay's funny, he said, he says it to

956
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 2: herself like this is gonna be in a movie, the

957
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 2: active playing J gotta go master, and should motherfucker went out.

958
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 2: I got a JMJ JJJ. You know what I'm saying,

959
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 2: so all of the it's like you said, all of

960
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 2: the pieces were just falling in place, all right, And

961
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 2: you and you used to DJ as well. Before run

962
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:52,359
Speaker 2: came in my basement, I had every Marvel comic book

963
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 2: in existence.

964
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 3: Stan Lee shut out to stan Lee. Now I'm gonna

965
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 3: tell you what. My brother still got his. Stan Lee

966
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 3: created d m C. Stan Here's crazy. Stanley in the

967
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 3: cold Crush created m C. But I had a huge

968
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,959
Speaker 3: All I used to do was read collect drawer, read

969
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 3: collect draw Batman, Flash Green Lantern were all cool.

970
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 2: But what was bad about d C was like, I

971
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 2: don't like fake ship. I hate fake ship. So d

972
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 2: C was cool to superhero but d C had a

973
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 2: fake Metropolis and a fake god my mother trying to

974
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 2: be New York. Stan Lee blew my fucking mind. He

975
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 2: put to superheroes really right, So that ship is real

976
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 2: to me. Spider Man from Wiside Queen, Yeah, sorry, I

977
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:44,800
Speaker 2: wasn't shouting out Queen's my whole record creator rep the

978
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 2: fucking hood. I was shouting at because spider Man comes

979
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 2: from where I come from. When I found I was,

980
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 2: oh ship, you know what I'm saying. The other dude,

981
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 2: he shouting grew. I don't know that shit. I can't

982
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 2: leave the block.

983
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,840
Speaker 3: But I'm all I did was recollect and your comic books.

984
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 3: So when hip hop came over the bridge from the Bronx.

985
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 3: My brother's older than me, fifteen, the kids fifteen, eighteen

986
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 3: years old, all of a sudden, everybody's getting turntables and

987
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 3: queens in my neighborhood. And I remember Anthony Wallace was

988
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 3: the first of my brother's friends to get turntable, but

989
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 3: he had to make ship set. He had the BSR turntable,

990
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:28,280
Speaker 3: but the other mitchmatch one from your mother's high five stereo.

991
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 2: Shit.

992
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 3: Anthley was dope.

993
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 2: He would take all the speakers and make his own

994
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 2: sound system, so he had the creative records. He had

995
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 2: all that bam shit. You know what I'm saying. I

996
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 2: was full of bam shit. I ain't know what it was.

997
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 3: And yet and then Booby Long, my brother's other friend. See,

998
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 3: Booby had it better than me and my brother because

999
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 3: you couldn't get no turntables back in the days.

1000
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 2: If you didn't sell reefer, right, guys, all right, cool,

1001
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 2: I'm trying to put people there. You don't sell reefer,

1002
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 2: You're not a stick up kid. You don't rob houses

1003
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,399
Speaker 2: and you don't steal cars. So me and my brother

1004
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 2: we Catholic.

1005
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 3: School, you know, suburban queens. Motherfuckers. We ain't got no money.

1006
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:16,359
Speaker 3: But then my brother goes yo, and it was for him.

1007
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 3: He comes to me one day, Yo, Daryl, man, he's weed,

1008
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 3: but it's really him. We gotta get turned right, and

1009
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 3: he's like looking around the fucking attic at my shit,

1010
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh no, we need oh mother. He's like, Yo,

1011
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 3: come on, man, we gotta get turntables. This hip hop shit.

1012
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 3: You know, everybody's doing whatever whatever.

1013
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 2: So I give in.

1014
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 3: So we do a comic book sale, right, and I

1015
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 3: checked this out. This is seventh grade, before run even

1016
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 3: came playball. We do a comic book sale. The McDaniels

1017
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:47,959
Speaker 3: brothers is doing a comic book sales.

1018
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 2: So the doorbell was ringing all day.

1019
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:54,399
Speaker 3: All we need to do is get one turntable because

1020
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 3: we had a high five system and a forty dollars

1021
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 3: Gemini mix up and down one the lowest one and

1022
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,760
Speaker 3: then cross me. So we gotta get that. The doorbells

1023
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 3: ringing all days. Kiss from my neighborhood. Kiss from a

1024
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 3: school doorbell rings. It's Joseph Simmons. The other kid from

1025
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 3: the other class comes in with his friend Harold. He

1026
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 3: buys comic books and he goes home eight I mean

1027
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 3: a year later that happens.

1028
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 2: So we by the turntables. We get to turntables in

1029
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 2: the basement. Everybody's djaming, right, So I hear a Grand

1030
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 2: Master Flash tape of him spinning good times. You know

1031
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:29,439
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.

1032
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 3: When I'm fourteen years old, So I hear this Grandmaster

1033
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 3: flash tape. The thing that caught my eye was Flash and.

1034
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 2: The comic book that's my fucking name is itself flash Tention.

1035
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,320
Speaker 2: Now you know what I'm saying. It probably was always

1036
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 2: there because it was blocklast Gordon at right, Flash not Flash.

1037
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 2: Flash and a comic Bookarabos was my connection with that.

1038
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 2: So I hear Grandmaster flashap and he's spending good times,

1039
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 2: good times. Boom boom, but no boom boom boom, boom bron.

1040
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 3: Now you usually prior to the hip hop the DJ's

1041
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 3: is the block parties were the older DJs who would

1042
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 3: just play the records all the way through, play the

1043
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 3: record or the trou So I'm here in this flash

1044
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 3: tape this good Time's break comes, then it comes again.

1045
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 3: Now there's no video of this ship and it's just

1046
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:20,439
Speaker 3: on the box playing and it does it again, good time,

1047
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 3: good time, and he makes it go.

1048
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:22,399
Speaker 2: Good good, good good.

1049
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 3: I'm like, I gotta learn how to do that ship.

1050
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:27,760
Speaker 3: So my brother when we brought the turntables, he scratch

1051
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 3: with my no that came. No, he's being brother who

1052
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 3: used my comic books to get this turntable, tells me

1053
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 3: this is big brother shit.

1054
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 2: Yo, when I'm not home, don't touch my turn what.

1055
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 2: I'm looking at that empty attic and I'm like, what

1056
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 2: the fuck you mean my turn to? I don't say this.

1057
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 2: I'm just thinking this ship. But did I he sold

1058
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 2: your comic books to get Every time he would.

1059
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 3: Leave, I would go on the basement and I'm trying

1060
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 3: to figure out how flat.

1061
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 2: Like Step Brothers. You see the movie Step Brothers. Yeah,

1062
00:55:58,360 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 2: I would go.

1063
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 3: Down in the basement to a touch of ship. So

1064
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 3: I learned to DJ Good Times. I learned the DJ

1065
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 3: super sperm soup soups. I learned the DJ Paradise.

1066
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:14,320
Speaker 2: It's very nice, paraded, Yeah, I got nice.

1067
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 3: So in my basement, norry. Before I was M. C.

1068
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 3: Eazy D like the m cum ship didn't come yet.

1069
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 3: I didn't hear that ship yet. I was grand Master

1070
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 3: to get high in my basement. Grandmaster, Yeah, because you

1071
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 3: didn't right now, you didn't need to read for alcohol

1072
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 3: to get intoxicated because my music was in.

1073
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:37,919
Speaker 2: You know, so ding.

1074
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 3: When Joe came in my basement, I showed him with Grandmaster,

1075
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 3: Grandmaster get high. I could do me writing rhymes to

1076
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 3: where Joe discovered it when he saw after hanging with

1077
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 3: me came about because of this.

1078
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 2: I had heard spoony g the spoony gs. Okay, spoony

1079
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 2: gm boom boom, you say one for the oh yes, yeah,

1080
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 2: y'are a freak freak y'all. And I was driving down

1081
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 2: the street on the storm at night and then up

1082
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 2: the head. It was a terrible fight. It was a

1083
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 2: big Finally, so I heard spoony Gee's first one with

1084
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,240
Speaker 2: the whistle work in the base of woom boom boom.

1085
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 3: So I had heard that, still didn't care about it yet.

1086
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 3: Then right after I heard that, I heard Rappers of Light.

1087
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:26,479
Speaker 3: So everybody is getting turntables and all of a sudden,

1088
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 3: this record rappers. The light is everywhere, But I still

1089
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 3: didn't care until I had Big Bang Hanks rhyme about Superman.

1090
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 3: Oh shit, like, I don't care about hip hop to

1091
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 3: him because people that mod talks about this too. At

1092
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 3: that time, I didn't notice there was an older hip

1093
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 3: hop and the younger hip hop. There was the DJ

1094
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 3: Hollywoods and the Eddie Cheebers and the Pete DJ Jones

1095
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 3: and those. There was the disco DJ rapping man, clap

1096
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 3: your hands.

1097
00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 2: I'm in the disco. It was all disco, just sto

1098
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 2: he I'm a rapping man and on my hands. So

1099
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 2: it was those dudes, you know what I'm saying, The

1100
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 2: rappers the Light.

1101
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 3: That first rhyme was that to me, But then I

1102
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 3: heard Banks rhyme, not knowing that I would discover later

1103
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 3: on when the Cold Crush tapes came out dude that

1104
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 3: wrote that, but his was different.

1105
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 2: Emp to them. The ladies pimp the women, fight for

1106
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 2: my delight because I'm the grand master with the three

1107
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 2: because he was grand Master Kaz and he had he

1108
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 2: was a DJ and stuff that so long, Sir short,

1109
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 2: I hear Rappers the Light and the only reason I

1110
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 2: listen to Rappers of Light.

1111
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 3: Put it on the record and listen to it three

1112
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 3: times from start to finish.

1113
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 2: Wow.

1114
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 3: But that got me in trouble because now all the

1115
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 3: bullies and the hard rocks, you know, thugs, they were

1116
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 3: put hard rocks back.

1117
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 2: He got a fresh nigg and he walk hard. You

1118
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 2: gonna watch out put all rocks, you know, say go

1119
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 2: down the block. That's me.

1120
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 3: But now by me knowing Rappers of Light from start

1121
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 3: to finish, your motherfucker come over here.

1122
00:58:57,960 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 2: Sing Rappers.

1123
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 3: Wasn't a box around and how was that dude? So

1124
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:06,919
Speaker 3: this happened on My brother brought Rappers the Light home,

1125
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 3: and I tell the story of the time. It was

1126
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 3: very attractive, light blue label with the rainbow, so it

1127
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 3: stood out. A couple of weeks later, he brings home

1128
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 3: this land. It was a white cutcase. In the red label.

1129
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 3: It just said in joy right.

1130
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:21,479
Speaker 2: Wow.

1131
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 3: So I'm busy doing the grand Master Flash it I

1132
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 3: read the label. It says grand Master Flash and the

1133
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 3: Furies Fire.

1134
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh ship, what the fuck like I'm trying

1135
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 2: to do that? Now?

1136
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 3: He got other motherfucker. But I didn't know what was

1137
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 3: about to happen to me. There was Grandmaster flashing Furries five,

1138
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 3: and I was like Okay, my brother put that ship

1139
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 3: on the turntable.

1140
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 2: Now if you put.

1141
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:55,919
Speaker 3: Rappers of Light on Bloom Gloom. But it was dope

1142
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 3: because nobody was hearing it when you first heard that ship.

1143
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 2: But it ain't this ship. My father put that shit on.

1144
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 2: This ship said it was a party night. Everybody was

1145
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 2: breaking in the highs. What's screaming in the base, what's

1146
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 2: shaking in It won't be long till everybody knowing that

1147
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 2: flashes on the be box going and and then it

1148
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 2: goes shinin down. Now, if you listen to Rappers the Light,

1149
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 2: this ship is a long ash record eight minutes right

1150
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 2: with three motherfuckers rhyming individually, very long rhymes.

1151
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:31,920
Speaker 3: My motherfucker go third month, second, third, break and do.

1152
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 2: It all again. This shit says shot out now and

1153
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 2: then the voice says this this blue my mom. I

1154
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 2: had heard Eddie Cheeba shout out to him one of

1155
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 2: the first radio hip hop radio shows. He was on

1156
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 2: w f u V.

1157
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 3: I couldn't get it in Queens unless I turned the

1158
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 3: antenna a certain way, but it was still statically. So

1159
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 3: I had first heard, excuse me, I had first heard

1160
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 3: Eddie Cheevers saying rhyme. He said, when you mess around

1161
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 3: in New York Town, you go down with the disco

1162
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 3: Chieber clown.

1163
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 2: You go down, go down, go down. You just keep

1164
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 2: the pep. It was very inspirational too. Keep the pep

1165
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:11,440
Speaker 2: in your step. You don't stop till you get on

1166
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 2: the mountain top. And when you reach the top, you

1167
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:15,920
Speaker 2: reach the peak. And then he says, that's when you

1168
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 2: hear Eddie Cheeber speak. And I'm like this motherfucker on

1169
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 2: top of mountains. You know, I'm a kid. I don't know.

1170
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 3: I'm it's going at the box. But this shit said,

1171
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 3: shot on now. And then the voice goes Italian, Caucasian, Japanese, Spanish, Indian,

1172
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 3: knee grow v at the knees, M see this jockeys,

1173
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 3: y'all fly kids for the young ladies.

1174
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 2: And then the beat drop, and this motherfucker said, introducing

1175
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 2: the crew, you got to see the belief. Five different

1176
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 2: voices were one, two, three, four, five, and sees. The

1177
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 2: first motherfucker said, I'm Melly Mail and a rocket so well.

1178
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 2: The second motherfucker said, and I'm missing this because I

1179
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 2: rocked the best. Third dude said rahem and all the

1180
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 2: ladies dreaming and the fourth dude said cow boy, and

1181
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 2: I make it jump for joy in the fifth dude

1182
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 2: just yells creole. The other forur motherfucker's gonna solid gold

1183
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 2: kid creole. They're going playing a role. And then Mel says,

1184
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 2: dig this where the furrious five plus grand Master flash

1185
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:12,920
Speaker 2: giving you a blast to show enough class. So to

1186
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 2: prove to you all that was second enough, We're gonna

1187
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:18,840
Speaker 2: make five MC sound like one. I went running, get

1188
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 2: me up.

1189
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 3: I'm running in the house getting me up.

1190
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 2: So that day this is how it became easy D

1191
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:31,000
Speaker 2: in my basement. In my basement, I'm grand Master get high.

1192
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 2: But that just taught me the DJ. The grand Master

1193
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 2: has these rappers, so I also became MC easy D.

1194
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 2: I was my own MC in my basement. Oh shit.

1195
01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 2: So by the time Run call, all of that shit

1196
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 2: was piled up.

1197
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 3: That's why I run said grab you around book when

1198
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 3: going to the studio, So all I had to do

1199
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 3: when it was time to make records, Run had the

1200
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 3: idea for us like that, Yo, we're gonna make he

1201
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 3: called me up. Yo, We're gonna write a record about

1202
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 3: how the world is. Because I was a straight a student,

1203
01:02:57,600 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 3: just write a bunch of rounds about how the world

1204
01:02:59,320 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 3: is cool.

1205
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 2: So we go in the studio.

1206
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 3: We make it like that, unemployed switching off stuff like that.

1207
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 3: Russell's still not impressed with me. People don't notice. Originally

1208
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 3: I think, I think search talk to you about this.

1209
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 3: Originally he's there, I saw that episode.

1210
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 2: Huh, he said. Run was originally a solo group.

1211
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 3: What Russell was gonna do is remember the early disco

1212
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 3: records where the fat black lady would sing, but the

1213
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 3: pretty model girls would go in to wash. So Russell

1214
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 3: let me make and perform in the studio. It's like

1215
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:38,919
Speaker 3: that with Joe, but he was going to tour by hisself.

1216
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 3: And it was lucky I was Run DMC because if

1217
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 3: I didn't work out, it would have been Run the MC.

1218
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 3: So but this is what happened.

1219
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 2: We do it like that cool, and Russell was like,

1220
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 2: yode ghost to fuck down, get out the way.

1221
01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 4: He's about to be the first ghost writer, not the first,

1222
01:03:58,280 --> 01:03:59,440
Speaker 4: but a ghost writer basically.

1223
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 3: So Run goes in there. He got sucking seeds already written.

1224
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 3: Why do you think he rhyme three times on a

1225
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 3: record that was one of his solo records for his career.

1226
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 3: So he go and drop the rhymes and then he

1227
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 3: comes out to booth and he says, d going in

1228
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 3: saying rhyme, and I go, nah man, trying to get

1229
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 3: me in trouble with this because Russell would come and

1230
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:20,840
Speaker 3: after I made this, like russellould be on some ship

1231
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 3: like that.

1232
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 2: You know you're still here. It's like his whole ship

1233
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 2: was for his brother.

1234
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 3: He had, oh ship, Curtis Blow, You're gonna go to

1235
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 3: Europe just and that. Matter of fact, here's what's crazy

1236
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 3: runs D and and one of the reasons Runs wanted

1237
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:36,439
Speaker 3: me in the group.

1238
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:37,480
Speaker 2: And he was crying to me.

1239
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:42,480
Speaker 3: Russell was going to have and she's documented in in London,

1240
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:45,840
Speaker 3: there was a DJ named DJ Lady Blue and she

1241
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:47,480
Speaker 3: was She was one of the first people to play

1242
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 3: hip hop. Russell was gonna make Lady Blue Runs DJ.

1243
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:57,600
Speaker 3: But Lady Blue had a pantomime pop dancer, Crazy Ship,

1244
01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 3: a pantomime locker dancer, and.

1245
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 2: Run with good. You gotta be in the group. He

1246
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 2: says to go, I want to be from the Pandemon

1247
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 2: saying back then it was like.

1248
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:13,480
Speaker 3: So Brun says, motherfucker, just go in the booth and

1249
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:14,600
Speaker 3: say your new rhyme.

1250
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 2: So I go in the room.

1251
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 3: I'm gonna pass the mic with you, DMC. And if

1252
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 3: you're ready to people rock and steady. You're driving big cars.

1253
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:24,080
Speaker 3: Get your gash from Getty, say something, motherfucker. So I'm

1254
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:24,480
Speaker 3: in the boob.

1255
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 2: Okay, he going there, he lays it. I go in

1256
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:27,440
Speaker 2: the booth.

1257
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 3: And then what did I do When I got my

1258
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 3: acceptance letter? He said, say your newest rhyme. I'm DMC

1259
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 3: and the place to be ill go to Saint John's University.

1260
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 3: And since kennygarn And out cried the knowledge and I'm

1261
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:46,080
Speaker 3: gonna Shay Collins, I'm lights. That was really funny. People

1262
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 3: say you ain't light back then, I was like lighter.

1263
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 2: I'll show you.

1264
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 3: Be cause you ain't light skinned.

1265
01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 2: No, back then I was really nice. No, I was red,

1266
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 2: like you could touch my skin. And on the turn

1267
01:05:58,120 --> 01:05:58,680
Speaker 2: I was light.

1268
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 3: So I kicked the rhyme of Larry Smith Roddy Hew

1269
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 3: engineer at Green Street.

1270
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 2: They're fucking losing it. But hold on, let me stop

1271
01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:11,440
Speaker 2: you for a second. Do you know how legendary that

1272
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:14,040
Speaker 2: rhyme is? So you're telling me that's your first rhyme

1273
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 2: on record, can we say that over the town? The

1274
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 2: whole one I'm DMC in the place to be. I'll

1275
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 2: go to Saint Johne University. And since Kindergartland, I quiet

1276
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:28,960
Speaker 2: and knowledge that the twelfth grade I went straight to college.

1277
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:31,720
Speaker 2: I'm light skin. I love in Queens. I love it

1278
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 2: live in Queens. I love each chicken and college. Hold on, yeah,

1279
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 2: nobody was doing that ship right.

1280
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 3: That was like I thought I owned.

1281
01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:44,720
Speaker 2: I was only a nigga eat chicken colle Queens at

1282
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 2: that time. And I said, wait a minute, Yeah, that's

1283
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:55,840
Speaker 2: the beauty on my round. I dressed to kill. I

1284
01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:59,120
Speaker 2: love this stuff imming them. You know who's versatile, said,

1285
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:01,680
Speaker 2: got good credit in your regards. I got my name,

1286
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 2: not numbers on my credit cards. Go uptown a come

1287
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:07,720
Speaker 2: back home with foo, me and myself and my microphone.

1288
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 3: All my rhyms a sweet delight. So here's another one

1289
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:13,880
Speaker 3: for y'all to bite. When a rhyme, I never quit

1290
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 3: and then forgot a new rhyme.

1291
01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 2: I'll just say it because it takes a lot to entertain,

1292
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 2: and sucking cease can be a pain.

1293
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:22,760
Speaker 3: You can't rock a party with a hip in hop.

1294
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:25,560
Speaker 3: You gotta let him know you'll never stop. Your rhym's

1295
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 3: gotta make a lot of sense. You gotta know when

1296
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:29,400
Speaker 3: to start one the beast coming.

1297
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:32,160
Speaker 2: That one verse.

1298
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 3: It's like my introduction and my solidification.

1299
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:38,680
Speaker 2: But here's a man dollar question. Yep, did you have

1300
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:39,680
Speaker 2: good credit back then?

1301
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:40,240
Speaker 7: No?

1302
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:44,560
Speaker 2: I have no credit. I ain't no credit. Sorry.

1303
01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:48,440
Speaker 3: What the beauty about hip hoty? You don't realize how

1304
01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 3: prophetic it is? All of before recorded wrap? What didn't meld?

1305
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 3: What did the first five four, Cold Course, Fantastic five,

1306
01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:03,520
Speaker 3: Crash Crew, Treacherous, three, Busy Beat, Starsky Love Books, Starsky.

1307
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 2: Uh spoony g? What did they all prophesy?

1308
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:10,400
Speaker 3: Rock, shocking, amazing and make you feel shame one day?

1309
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:14,280
Speaker 2: Our names that we found in the Hall of Fame, Yeah,

1310
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 2: they predicted it. Yeah. Man. So speaking on prediction, ship,

1311
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:22,760
Speaker 2: my whole ship came from stan Lee because if you

1312
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:25,080
Speaker 2: if you look at Wu Tang with the alter egos

1313
01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:28,439
Speaker 2: on the stocks that ship. Yeah, so we are all

1314
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 2: products of pop culture.

1315
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:34,240
Speaker 3: All as I said before you, Yes, I'm cold crushed, Yes,

1316
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:37,040
Speaker 3: all the metal songs that are there, but I'm also

1317
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 3: the Brady Bunch and Adams Fan and the Flintstones. All

1318
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:43,320
Speaker 3: of that ship is like a part of me and

1319
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:46,440
Speaker 3: Jeffersons and the Jeffersons and Archie Bunker.

1320
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 2: Queens.

1321
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:52,760
Speaker 3: Fucking yes, the Honeymooners.

1322
01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:55,519
Speaker 2: On Sunday and.

1323
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:56,360
Speaker 3: What's what's my girl?

1324
01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 2: What's my girl? Lucy? All right, that's the first Cuban

1325
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 2: exactly when you be a Dominican too, you're talking about

1326
01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:15,920
Speaker 2: Chester you and me? Was wrong? No, it was he

1327
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:16,680
Speaker 2: was about to say that.

1328
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 4: Day. He was like, we went before we get into

1329
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:26,760
Speaker 4: that point, before we leave the Stanley's. Did did you

1330
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:29,240
Speaker 4: get to meet Stanley? When I met him two times?

1331
01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:32,479
Speaker 4: We became homeboys. And it's crazy that because obviously this

1332
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 4: is you know, comic books were a passion that you

1333
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:39,200
Speaker 4: sold stuff that was your passion for another passion and

1334
01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:41,600
Speaker 4: the full circle. Now come back and be able to

1335
01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:44,600
Speaker 4: do something that you were about and not planning on

1336
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 4: that crazy, that's Miles.

1337
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 2: But stan Lee came out and he talked, I go

1338
01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 2: to schools and I talk about this ship. How did

1339
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 2: you meet him at Comic Connor said, I gotta go, mister,

1340
01:09:57,439 --> 01:10:04,639
Speaker 2: you're like some nurse. Listen, if you go over comic books,

1341
01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:07,000
Speaker 2: that's the really you gotta know about that weekend. You

1342
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:11,680
Speaker 2: gotta you gotta be in tune to know about you

1343
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:19,040
Speaker 2: know what I'm gonna be honest. I watched uh arentearage

1344
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:22,720
Speaker 2: where they where they went to comic com everybody is

1345
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:24,320
Speaker 2: dressed like the superheroes that they like.

1346
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:28,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, superheroes is comic books, as TV shows, the Star Wars,

1347
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:32,320
Speaker 3: it's all of that ship. But stan Lee taught me

1348
01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:37,599
Speaker 3: something that set me up greatly to to fucking prosper

1349
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:39,760
Speaker 3: in this ship. And I tell cares about this.

1350
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:43,760
Speaker 2: Stan Lee taught me like when when when when I

1351
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 2: was reading the comic books, and I'm a school kid,

1352
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:48,479
Speaker 2: so I was like, you know what the funk? I

1353
01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:51,320
Speaker 2: gotta know what the adjective is for. But the fact

1354
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 2: that I got taught with the adjective for, I noticed,

1355
01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 2: if you notice what all the superheroes they ain't just

1356
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 2: who they are. If I say the amazing, you'll say

1357
01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:02,320
Speaker 2: if I say the amazing, you'll say.

1358
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 4: If I say the invincible, you'll say incredible, Hulk incredible.

1359
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:10,599
Speaker 2: If I say incredible, you'll say the guy to him,

1360
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:16,599
Speaker 2: or if I say mighty. So Stanley, tell who you are.

1361
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:21,439
Speaker 3: Find an adjective this powerful, productive and positive, and put

1362
01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:24,519
Speaker 3: it before it so I get to rise high school.

1363
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 3: Spider Man's amazing, Iron Man's invincible Hulk is incredible, Thora

1364
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:31,599
Speaker 3: is mighty. So I get to Rice High School now

1365
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:34,439
Speaker 3: and I'm realizing, oh, this shit ain't just about making records.

1366
01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:37,679
Speaker 3: It's just like some real cultural way of life shit.

1367
01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:43,240
Speaker 3: So I'm buying all the tapes from Terrence Washington and

1368
01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:45,840
Speaker 3: this is twelfth grade now, so nine, ten, eleven, twelve,

1369
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:48,920
Speaker 3: because I'm spending all my money on these tapes hearing

1370
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:51,200
Speaker 3: the beats. When I was a kid, I grew up

1371
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:55,240
Speaker 3: loving seventies rock radio. I'm here in Theodore and Bam

1372
01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 3: and all of them used to break rock records to

1373
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:02,519
Speaker 3: wrap over run MC didn't great rock wrap dated. We

1374
01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 3: just did in the record and got all the money.

1375
01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:07,920
Speaker 2: Well, you popularized it, right. So I get the twelfth

1376
01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:11,439
Speaker 2: grade and there's one tape in the middle of the

1377
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:15,720
Speaker 2: cassette thing. It says twelve dollars. I'm like, damn, I

1378
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:19,040
Speaker 2: ain't got twelve dollars. Was that expecific back then? Yeah? Okay,

1379
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:22,760
Speaker 2: what was the tape? Five dollars? Yeah, the typical tapes

1380
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:25,880
Speaker 2: was three to seven. Oh okay, oh wow, And that's good.

1381
01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:26,720
Speaker 2: Just you get caught, but.

1382
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 3: You're getting You're not a kid fight dolls in that era. Yeah,

1383
01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 3: is there no fucking money and you broke it. Shit,

1384
01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:36,160
Speaker 3: I'm lying every day. My father was like starting to

1385
01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:38,040
Speaker 3: bug out on me. It was like, how come every

1386
01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:39,240
Speaker 3: day you fucking need a book?

1387
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:43,719
Speaker 2: Dad? I need so you buy it. Tape somebody takes.

1388
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:45,160
Speaker 3: But there was the one tape in the middle and

1389
01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:48,800
Speaker 3: that just said twelve dollars and it says c C

1390
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:53,160
Speaker 3: four versus the Fantastic five. At harlemor So, I asked

1391
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:54,240
Speaker 3: Tim and show what's that one?

1392
01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:57,439
Speaker 2: You can't have that one? No time with it. They

1393
01:12:57,479 --> 01:12:59,840
Speaker 2: don't even pay attention to that one. Wow.

1394
01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:03,160
Speaker 3: And then he hits me with this CEC is Cold Crush. Okay,

1395
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:05,000
Speaker 3: I don't know that yet, Like, what's the CC four

1396
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:08,439
Speaker 3: because I'm used to Treacher Street right, Funky four plus one,

1397
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 3: Fantastic five, first five, double trouble. He goes, that's the

1398
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:17,320
Speaker 3: Cold Crush four. Now I had never heard. Fuck, it's

1399
01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:20,640
Speaker 3: the Now why can't it be the Fantastic for it?

1400
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:23,280
Speaker 3: He says, you can't have that one?

1401
01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:24,240
Speaker 2: Now you know I want it.

1402
01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:28,040
Speaker 3: That was it's like telling us, now, what are you

1403
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:28,559
Speaker 3: gonna do one?

1404
01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:32,280
Speaker 2: That's what you want? Cold Crush four vers The Fantastic five,

1405
01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:36,320
Speaker 2: And had the world you can't have that one yo.

1406
01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:38,519
Speaker 2: I gotta have that one man. Yo, I got eight

1407
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:44,040
Speaker 2: dollars like he was, okay, here take this ship.

1408
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 3: You owe me four dollars, Get the fuck away from

1409
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:51,759
Speaker 3: me like type like I took that ship home. Note

1410
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:53,639
Speaker 3: heard yes, yes, y'are to the beach.

1411
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:58,559
Speaker 2: Y'all Apache, super Sperm, Coumo d with the super Duper Party,

1412
01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:00,760
Speaker 2: Pooper Man with full of super due for disco band

1413
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:02,519
Speaker 2: fast Fire and all of that ship.

1414
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:05,920
Speaker 3: I hurd melly mal. I heard Shah Rock who inspired me?

1415
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:12,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got my style. Using an echo

1416
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 2: from Shah Rock. A girl female, you say, I heard

1417
01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:16,719
Speaker 2: her go to all of you. My name is shah

1418
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:19,960
Speaker 2: not a millionaire. I want to do that jay so Ja,

1419
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 2: my name is dm C see all time great great,

1420
01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:28,599
Speaker 2: but the most round rounds New York State, producing yap

1421
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:32,000
Speaker 2: from Sharrock. I have Wow Rock you never smoked weed?

1422
01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:34,920
Speaker 2: You wo remember everything? No, it is smoked weed and

1423
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:36,759
Speaker 2: he didn't some cocaine.

1424
01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:38,559
Speaker 3: Yes, that's the picture.

1425
01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:48,479
Speaker 2: He was a rock. I said, you know, we didn't

1426
01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:54,000
Speaker 2: know get down like twenty second Street. You know what

1427
01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:55,639
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Forget, I'm sorry.

1428
01:14:55,920 --> 01:15:01,519
Speaker 3: So I take this tape home and and and I

1429
01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:03,439
Speaker 3: remember when I played it for Joe too, it had

1430
01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:06,800
Speaker 3: the same effect. I put the tape on and my

1431
01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 3: brother Samuel Box not too speaking. This single one for boomboxes.

1432
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:15,360
Speaker 3: You know hip hop's crazy ear ring jukie ear rings.

1433
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:20,360
Speaker 3: So this is before the Boom Boom box, okay everywhere.

1434
01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:24,639
Speaker 3: My brother didn't have enough money to look at Boom yet. Okay,

1435
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:27,439
Speaker 3: So I put the ship on. This ship goes what's up?

1436
01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 2: Fly Girls? No, what's up fly guy? Her little fly girls.

1437
01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:34,759
Speaker 3: It's the big throw down at Harlem World called Crush

1438
01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:38,320
Speaker 3: four versus Fantastic five. They ain't no cop.

1439
01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:41,240
Speaker 2: We'll eat them alive because we're the best when it

1440
01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:43,720
Speaker 2: comes to wrapping. And like the fly I said, it

1441
01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:46,080
Speaker 2: is bound to happen. So the bat time is now.

1442
01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:48,880
Speaker 3: Let the battle begin and let the crowd be the

1443
01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 3: judge off who win, because we don't need tuxedos, because

1444
01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:56,559
Speaker 3: all we want to do is Dog Kevin Dot Master,

1445
01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:59,720
Speaker 3: Robin Whip and Ruby D like we always do, say

1446
01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:04,000
Speaker 3: what we bad Old Fantastic and here's a little gift

1447
01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:06,559
Speaker 3: so before they go, they all can know.

1448
01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:15,280
Speaker 2: Just who they're fucking that ship, like whoa what this is?

1449
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:19,560
Speaker 2: And then it was where Charlie chased Tony Tone and

1450
01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:24,639
Speaker 2: I never heard this, the cold crushing, mother fucking tough

1451
01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:28,120
Speaker 2: ast for MC. Charlie chases to the Puerto Rican. Yeah,

1452
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:32,200
Speaker 2: Puerto Rican DJ named John once again North, give me

1453
01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:36,600
Speaker 2: a pen, right, give me a pain, changing all of

1454
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:39,280
Speaker 2: that living queens, and I'm just and that shit. I'm

1455
01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:42,920
Speaker 2: getting ready to fucking destroy motherfuckers.

1456
01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:46,560
Speaker 3: Devastating by control of DMC and carectation. But here's what

1457
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:50,960
Speaker 3: the reason why I made the comic book Amazing, Spider Man, Incredible,

1458
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:51,679
Speaker 3: Hulk Invincible.

1459
01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:52,040
Speaker 2: I am inn.

1460
01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:56,680
Speaker 3: On that tape, they had names the Hutton Maker, J

1461
01:16:56,800 --> 01:17:00,360
Speaker 3: D L, The Almighty KD, the Girl Take It Easy

1462
01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:00,720
Speaker 3: a D.

1463
01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:04,719
Speaker 2: So I'm in Rice High School. I'm listening to this tape.

1464
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:07,160
Speaker 2: I'm taking typing and that's the end of a letter.

1465
01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:10,320
Speaker 2: You're supposed to type your initials, right, So I'm still

1466
01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:14,160
Speaker 2: easy D. They drop rocking in the pocket Joom koom

1467
01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:17,519
Speaker 2: joom jen joom doom joom jun j joom dune joom

1468
01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:21,240
Speaker 2: jin juomo joo jump. Then they go, we're not talking

1469
01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:25,240
Speaker 2: about your mother, your mother, not talking about your uncle,

1470
01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:28,560
Speaker 2: your uncle, not talking about your father, your father, not

1471
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:31,320
Speaker 2: your mother, no other, no other other other, and then

1472
01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:34,840
Speaker 2: over rocking in the pocket they start doing Yeah, all

1473
01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:38,160
Speaker 2: the other MC's can't deal with us because we are

1474
01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:40,839
Speaker 2: the four and on as the cold crush, putting fellas

1475
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:43,400
Speaker 2: on the jock making fly girls rock. You know, we

1476
01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:46,320
Speaker 2: got a funky song and you can come and sing

1477
01:17:46,439 --> 01:17:48,679
Speaker 2: and dance up. Guse you g We got the two

1478
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:52,679
Speaker 2: ms two DJs on the wheels are steal Charlie chasing

1479
01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:55,200
Speaker 2: tony tone at the top of the field telling all

1480
01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:57,560
Speaker 2: the competition got the b for real. We rock a

1481
01:17:57,640 --> 01:18:00,439
Speaker 2: party to the break of day, and this since our

1482
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:03,680
Speaker 2: sound one we play. We are the four mcs with

1483
01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:06,160
Speaker 2: the most respect and if you want to throw joints,

1484
01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:08,400
Speaker 2: you gotta come correct. We might have to take you

1485
01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:10,599
Speaker 2: out and keep your crew in check because the CC

1486
01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:14,360
Speaker 2: four is number one. They got the walk before you won.

1487
01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:15,040
Speaker 2: What hell?

1488
01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:18,120
Speaker 3: The initials of my name g MC and it's gonna

1489
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:24,280
Speaker 3: get the higher power body rocket in the galaxy. Oh

1490
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:24,800
Speaker 3: my god.

1491
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:28,280
Speaker 2: Then the L comes on the initials of my name

1492
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:31,320
Speaker 2: jd L. I wanna go to heaven for I go

1493
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:34,280
Speaker 2: to hell because I'm pushing more power than a door,

1494
01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:36,880
Speaker 2: self better than the oldest and the newest.

1495
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:39,920
Speaker 3: What's your name? My name is Sherry d Lewis. Tenn

1496
01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:43,360
Speaker 3: has killed me. The initials of my name E A D.

1497
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:46,519
Speaker 3: The baddest thing to hit New York since O E

1498
01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:51,480
Speaker 3: lost it. So I said, Darryl McDaniels is the initials

1499
01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:52,320
Speaker 3: of my name.

1500
01:18:52,240 --> 01:18:56,519
Speaker 2: D from Daryl. I'm becoming d m C because of GMC,

1501
01:18:57,479 --> 01:19:00,120
Speaker 2: and flat and Cast hated me. But then when I

1502
01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:03,880
Speaker 2: met him and told him that, he almost cried Grandma's cast. Yeah,

1503
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:06,559
Speaker 2: he hated you came d m C because of GMC,

1504
01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:16,519
Speaker 2: but he hated Holy Ship, hated us because they were like,

1505
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:22,559
Speaker 2: who the fuck? Because we now, no, no, we had

1506
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:28,120
Speaker 2: areas in Queens that f Hollis. No way, I didn't

1507
01:19:28,120 --> 01:19:32,000
Speaker 2: know that. No, No, that frack was known. Hollis got known.

1508
01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 2: Hollis started to get known around when everybody was saying

1509
01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:40,759
Speaker 2: do a diabet side, okay, But we was this little

1510
01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:42,680
Speaker 2: click we was. We was a little and we was

1511
01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:44,960
Speaker 2: only like ten blocks and stuff. But we started getting

1512
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:48,599
Speaker 2: known because we was fighting every We was fighting all

1513
01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:51,240
Speaker 2: the south side, the south side. This is Hollie, right,

1514
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:54,479
Speaker 2: that little jigger night you said. But what I'm trying

1515
01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:57,160
Speaker 2: to say is they were like who are they now?

1516
01:19:57,920 --> 01:20:04,040
Speaker 2: If you listen to step off my grandmaster flashing the

1517
01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:13,280
Speaker 2: first fire, they were talking about us, saying all yourself here,

1518
01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:15,760
Speaker 2: and she's a perpetrating the fraud. Well, what did Mel say?

1519
01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:18,559
Speaker 2: What did Mel say? On the step step step step?

1520
01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:21,040
Speaker 2: I was sitting on the corner just to waste my time.

1521
01:20:21,160 --> 01:20:23,280
Speaker 3: When I realized it was the King of the rhyme,

1522
01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:25,559
Speaker 3: I got on the microphone and what do you see?

1523
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:28,040
Speaker 2: The rest was my legacy. I was born to be

1524
01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:30,000
Speaker 2: the king of this bi boy thing, to have stallions

1525
01:20:30,040 --> 01:20:32,680
Speaker 2: and my downs, big diamond rings, hold a mansion in

1526
01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:34,720
Speaker 2: the rock, food men in the go because rap is

1527
01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:37,040
Speaker 2: the game. Because I like Shakespeare, I'm a pion. Then

1528
01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:39,719
Speaker 2: because there may wrap something people wanted there because before.

1529
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:42,160
Speaker 3: My right now, he said, little pieces of a dream

1530
01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:43,200
Speaker 3: is all you mean?

1531
01:20:43,640 --> 01:20:47,400
Speaker 2: Ever since you stepped on the ncccene, biting your moves,

1532
01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:51,280
Speaker 2: taking fake awards, seeing everyone else was perpetrating the fraud,

1533
01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:54,360
Speaker 2: but you nothing, Mel says that on it, Mel thought

1534
01:20:55,000 --> 01:21:00,240
Speaker 2: he told you that we were getting on there at

1535
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:02,280
Speaker 2: the New York Music he was getting.

1536
01:21:03,240 --> 01:21:05,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys were the eighty five getting.

1537
01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:10,200
Speaker 2: All those Never seemed happy. No, he's not but that's Mel.

1538
01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:14,519
Speaker 2: But Mel said he thought Run was talking about him

1539
01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:15,559
Speaker 2: on Stucker and seas you.

1540
01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:17,760
Speaker 4: Didn't feel brittle that they were coming at you. I

1541
01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:20,479
Speaker 4: would have thought them coming at Yeah, I don't know.

1542
01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:21,479
Speaker 2: I was scared that.

1543
01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:25,200
Speaker 3: This is new to me, this is the hold, this

1544
01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:28,840
Speaker 3: is that like, and they was just I didn't know

1545
01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:33,920
Speaker 3: it was that level of competitive. Yes, and it was

1546
01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:36,560
Speaker 3: almost like I was Run got real mad at me.

1547
01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:38,800
Speaker 2: I was like, I gotta stop rapping, oh ship, And

1548
01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:41,760
Speaker 2: he was like wow, because Mel, but come on, man,

1549
01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:43,800
Speaker 2: but you got it. I don't know.

1550
01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:48,680
Speaker 3: I'm a bedroom rapper, so this is Mel and more

1551
01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:51,680
Speaker 3: they mad at me. You know, you're like, the real

1552
01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:52,800
Speaker 3: dudes is mad right now.

1553
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:54,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, It's like it's like.

1554
01:21:54,439 --> 01:21:57,040
Speaker 3: The ship where you're growing up in the hood and

1555
01:21:57,160 --> 01:21:59,040
Speaker 3: the dude say don't do that, and you don't do

1556
01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:00,519
Speaker 3: it like this fucking ship.

1557
01:22:01,439 --> 01:22:03,240
Speaker 2: So it's like, I can't do it no more because

1558
01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:06,320
Speaker 2: they don't want me to. Ron was like my Run

1559
01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:07,720
Speaker 2: rapp motherfucker.

1560
01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:09,679
Speaker 3: There was a time we was at the New York

1561
01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:13,520
Speaker 3: Music Awards and it was Run to him see Houdini,

1562
01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:18,120
Speaker 3: Curtis blow, Jimmy Spicer. So we was all together and

1563
01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:22,680
Speaker 3: Run was the son of Curtis Blow. So this day

1564
01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:26,679
Speaker 3: they the son grew up and cursed the father. We're

1565
01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:29,760
Speaker 3: sitting in the dressing room, so we had king I'm

1566
01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:31,920
Speaker 3: the King of rob. I'm saying this eighty five.

1567
01:22:31,960 --> 01:22:32,320
Speaker 2: I'm the king.

1568
01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:34,240
Speaker 3: I'm the King, I'm the King. Kurt was known as

1569
01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:35,560
Speaker 3: the King of Rap at the time. If you go

1570
01:22:35,720 --> 01:22:38,879
Speaker 3: look at Flyers and he was king of self imposed

1571
01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:40,680
Speaker 3: king of Rap was a King of Rap too.

1572
01:22:41,320 --> 01:22:45,360
Speaker 2: But run leaves the dressing room and I'm sitting in

1573
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:48,200
Speaker 2: there with Kurk. Curtis Blow comes over to me and

1574
01:22:48,320 --> 01:22:52,000
Speaker 2: he says, now, you gotta understand, this is Curtis Blow

1575
01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:53,640
Speaker 2: to me. I don't know.

1576
01:22:53,720 --> 01:22:56,200
Speaker 3: I'm like Joe, I don't know Harlem, like I've never

1577
01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:57,599
Speaker 3: been to one hundred and twenty fifth Street.

1578
01:22:57,600 --> 01:23:00,640
Speaker 2: Tell him in the rice, right. So Curtis comes over

1579
01:23:00,720 --> 01:23:04,240
Speaker 2: to me and says, it's Curtis Ball, Yo, d you

1580
01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:07,400
Speaker 2: gotta stop saying king, You're the king. Now I would

1581
01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:10,280
Speaker 2: say I'm the King of Rock, but my king of Rock,

1582
01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:12,760
Speaker 2: they started calling me the king. Right.

1583
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:15,120
Speaker 3: So he comes it is Curtis Flow, Yo, you gotta

1584
01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:17,880
Speaker 3: stop saying your king. So I don't know, no better

1585
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:22,600
Speaker 3: know it okay because I'm taking like, did you Curtis blow.

1586
01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:26,880
Speaker 2: Way? So Ron comes back in and he's noticed my

1587
01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:30,120
Speaker 2: mood changed, right, so y yod, what's the matter And

1588
01:23:30,240 --> 01:23:33,240
Speaker 2: I innoctantly go, yeah, I'm trying to figure out who

1589
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:36,240
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be. Now say why because Kurt told me

1590
01:23:36,439 --> 01:23:40,880
Speaker 2: I can't say king what in front of everyone?

1591
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:45,919
Speaker 3: Mother fucker, you can't real Run went and on Kurt like, don't.

1592
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:49,600
Speaker 2: You ever say that to my man? The character he

1593
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:52,519
Speaker 2: wasn't Crush grovem right, right, Yo, he did that ship

1594
01:23:52,560 --> 01:23:55,240
Speaker 2: in real life. You gonna say that? And then Brenda's

1595
01:23:55,240 --> 01:23:58,240
Speaker 2: funny said, stream that shit hard and louder now, But

1596
01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:02,840
Speaker 2: that was the whole for me, that was the whole.

1597
01:24:03,240 --> 01:24:05,599
Speaker 4: That was the changing of the guards of anything, right,

1598
01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:08,599
Speaker 4: That's what was happening. It was right, but he wasn't

1599
01:24:08,640 --> 01:24:09,680
Speaker 4: ready to pass the tour.

1600
01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:13,000
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. But what I'm saying is

1601
01:24:13,200 --> 01:24:20,639
Speaker 2: my attitude. Everybody, my attitude, our attitude collective. Especially after

1602
01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:22,920
Speaker 2: I played the Coal Crush tape.

1603
01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:24,880
Speaker 3: For Run and Ron was funny when he heard the

1604
01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:28,400
Speaker 3: ram he run goals. I don't like Jerry d Lewis

1605
01:24:28,400 --> 01:24:31,040
Speaker 3: I like JD l not known it's the same person,

1606
01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:36,120
Speaker 3: but we just saw they was their rymen and chases

1607
01:24:36,240 --> 01:24:38,880
Speaker 3: cutting while they rhymen. So we said, that's what we're

1608
01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:39,320
Speaker 3: going to do.

1609
01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:44,200
Speaker 2: So those moments where the game changes of run DMC's presence,

1610
01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:45,599
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.

1611
01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:47,040
Speaker 3: It wasn't about making them happen.

1612
01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:51,080
Speaker 2: We got crazy major major hit records because we were

1613
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:52,040
Speaker 2: just doing routines.

1614
01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:55,040
Speaker 3: It was rap routines. The Funky Four, I mean the.

1615
01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:59,760
Speaker 2: Force mcs but to force some seas before they were

1616
01:24:59,800 --> 01:25:03,479
Speaker 2: to or some ds STEVD and there Yo, they had

1617
01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:07,280
Speaker 2: bars stevd and they had bars. So if you look,

1618
01:25:07,479 --> 01:25:11,280
Speaker 2: if you take Tricky, for example, which is a universal

1619
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:17,360
Speaker 2: that was that was a big good that was supposed

1620
01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:24,280
Speaker 2: to be done over numbers Boom boom jack. It's tricky

1621
01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:27,799
Speaker 2: to rocker rock. Tricky is just hey, Mickey, oh, Mickey,

1622
01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:34,280
Speaker 2: you're so fine, so fine, you boma what the man?

1623
01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:38,120
Speaker 2: You take the melody of the hot song, and then

1624
01:25:38,160 --> 01:25:39,040
Speaker 2: you talk about.

1625
01:25:38,920 --> 01:25:40,120
Speaker 3: Which is a form of sampling.

1626
01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:43,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what do they call it when they redo

1627
01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:44,360
Speaker 2: the record? No, no cover.

1628
01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:47,640
Speaker 3: But this is in a sense, it's an interpret We.

1629
01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:57,160
Speaker 2: Called the Force and C fifty J doctor Rock he

1630
01:25:57,640 --> 01:25:59,720
Speaker 2: d Jays.

1631
01:25:59,479 --> 01:26:02,280
Speaker 3: And when and you drop ladies and gentlemen, you drop

1632
01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:04,720
Speaker 3: in piece of President.

1633
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:10,920
Speaker 2: B D Jays and we MC here We're gone. It

1634
01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:14,880
Speaker 2: was all rhymes, routines. I got the Cold Crush, it's

1635
01:26:15,040 --> 01:26:20,519
Speaker 2: gi gantar Ji Gan the Giganto Robot cards. So we

1636
01:26:20,760 --> 01:26:23,000
Speaker 2: was like, we're gonna do rhyms and routine. Here we go.

1637
01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:25,160
Speaker 3: It's just here we go.

1638
01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:28,000
Speaker 2: It's just we put the tape on and you hear

1639
01:26:28,160 --> 01:26:31,120
Speaker 2: mode s start the show, Ladies and gentlemen, cool mode

1640
01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:33,240
Speaker 2: to the highest screen, the place to be on the wheel,

1641
01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:35,920
Speaker 2: steals DJ Easy Lebel and you go into the song.

1642
01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:38,840
Speaker 2: So here we go came about because now we're playing

1643
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:44,559
Speaker 2: the Roxy La no New York. Okay, we're playing Roxy.

1644
01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:49,880
Speaker 3: Were playing fucking the Fever, were playing Dance Materia, but

1645
01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:52,960
Speaker 3: we're playing Roxy. And what's special about the Roxy is

1646
01:26:53,360 --> 01:26:56,519
Speaker 3: the Jo Nation had had locked down every Thursday night.

1647
01:26:56,560 --> 01:26:59,160
Speaker 3: I think it was a Friday night. So here's run

1648
01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:02,320
Speaker 3: DMC and Jay had a broken leg too. She had

1649
01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:05,360
Speaker 3: a broken leg. So we playing the Roxy and run.

1650
01:27:06,439 --> 01:27:10,720
Speaker 3: He's like, yodd, you go start the show, motherfucker you

1651
01:27:12,439 --> 01:27:16,679
Speaker 3: you've been doing fifty put my out there. I'm gonna

1652
01:27:16,720 --> 01:27:19,080
Speaker 3: come out, you start sucking seas. I'm gonna come out

1653
01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:20,280
Speaker 3: for my part and I'm going back.

1654
01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:22,280
Speaker 2: To the stage. But he's like, nah, dude, you gotta

1655
01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:24,400
Speaker 2: do you know, you gotta do it. So we arguing

1656
01:27:24,520 --> 01:27:27,200
Speaker 2: on the side of the stage and I'm not knowing,

1657
01:27:27,280 --> 01:27:29,840
Speaker 2: like the stage is right there, so you go, you

1658
01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:32,040
Speaker 2: do it, you do it. As as he's coming at me,

1659
01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:35,080
Speaker 2: I'm walking backwards, so like this is you go down

1660
01:27:35,200 --> 01:27:35,679
Speaker 2: the stage.

1661
01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:36,559
Speaker 3: I walk up.

1662
01:27:36,880 --> 01:27:42,200
Speaker 2: When the people see me, I'm like, oh shit, what

1663
01:27:42,439 --> 01:27:46,000
Speaker 2: the fuck? So it kicked in to me.

1664
01:27:46,400 --> 01:27:48,200
Speaker 3: It was like, yo, just tell them who you are,

1665
01:27:48,640 --> 01:27:51,120
Speaker 3: like they do on the tapes. So I just turned

1666
01:27:51,160 --> 01:27:54,960
Speaker 3: to the crowd and I remember certain introductions.

1667
01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:57,800
Speaker 2: There was an introduction of this crew called the sure

1668
01:27:57,920 --> 01:28:00,479
Speaker 2: Shot Crew, but they used to do it with He

1669
01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:03,559
Speaker 2: used to go the sure Shot Crew crew crew starring

1670
01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:08,240
Speaker 2: DJ Cool, Cuts, Cuts Cool, c C, Sugar Bear Bear

1671
01:28:08,479 --> 01:28:11,280
Speaker 2: and the Three m Seeds That'll rock you on down

1672
01:28:11,439 --> 01:28:14,599
Speaker 2: down down to your knees. And they took a patche

1673
01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:18,439
Speaker 2: my Man Bill Blast Boom back, Sean c Voom back

1674
01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:23,679
Speaker 2: Raheem Voo back New York voom ah voom you vom

1675
01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:26,080
Speaker 2: Ready for voog vogal vocal vote look and then theyre

1676
01:28:26,080 --> 01:28:26,799
Speaker 2: going to the routine.

1677
01:28:27,120 --> 01:28:29,880
Speaker 3: So I was like that shit D one two three

1678
01:28:30,840 --> 01:28:34,000
Speaker 3: in the place to be as it is playing the Sea,

1679
01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:38,240
Speaker 3: and I pointed backstage he is DJ running and I

1680
01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:41,400
Speaker 3: am DMC and then oh shit, and then J I

1681
01:28:41,479 --> 01:28:42,719
Speaker 3: love J and provision.

1682
01:28:42,840 --> 01:28:45,439
Speaker 2: He just he's oh, I got it. He takes big

1683
01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:48,519
Speaker 2: B and sou's going voom fat boom boom boom fah.

1684
01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:52,439
Speaker 2: So he is DJ Running. I am DMC boom for

1685
01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:56,519
Speaker 2: Funky Fresh for nineteen eighty three. I'm suiting now DJ

1686
01:28:57,040 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 2: jam Master Jay inside the place with all of base

1687
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:02,760
Speaker 2: see Lee's without a trade, and I'm telling the whole

1688
01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:04,599
Speaker 2: rocks he does. And we came here tonight to get

1689
01:29:04,680 --> 01:29:05,360
Speaker 2: on your case.

1690
01:29:05,400 --> 01:29:08,360
Speaker 3: And we the motherfucker from Queens, a whole nuther level

1691
01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:12,400
Speaker 3: ship and we are and I remembered Cold crushing, mother

1692
01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:16,200
Speaker 3: fucking tough ast far and we are. We had sucking

1693
01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:20,439
Speaker 3: seas was Crush Groove one, and then we did a

1694
01:29:20,520 --> 01:29:23,840
Speaker 3: song on the second album, Crushgroof two, and then we

1695
01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:26,360
Speaker 3: did the Tim Crush Group. But I remembered Cold Crash

1696
01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:28,920
Speaker 3: and we are the crush grooving.

1697
01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:33,760
Speaker 2: Body moving record making and record breaking and it goes

1698
01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:36,000
Speaker 2: a little something like this run came out. It goes

1699
01:29:36,080 --> 01:29:37,160
Speaker 2: to one, two.

1700
01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:43,040
Speaker 3: Three and here we boom, here we go. Biggie probably

1701
01:29:43,160 --> 01:29:44,720
Speaker 3: was there at night because he got a rhyme with

1702
01:29:45,120 --> 01:29:47,920
Speaker 3: I was snatching change, I was rubbing, I was.

1703
01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:50,200
Speaker 2: You go yeah.

1704
01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:53,360
Speaker 3: So all of that ship was connected, but it was

1705
01:29:53,600 --> 01:29:57,840
Speaker 3: just me being prophetic and not knowing it.

1706
01:29:57,920 --> 01:30:00,200
Speaker 2: If you listen to the jam Master J record, after

1707
01:30:00,240 --> 01:30:03,839
Speaker 2: I said Jay, your name's your message J, and I'm I'm, I'm.

1708
01:30:03,720 --> 01:30:05,400
Speaker 3: I guess I was like the cast of the group.

1709
01:30:05,720 --> 01:30:07,760
Speaker 3: I'm gonna write a whole song about Jay to let

1710
01:30:07,840 --> 01:30:09,880
Speaker 3: people know who he is. So we did kick off

1711
01:30:09,960 --> 01:30:12,200
Speaker 3: your Shoes, Jump on the job. Listen to the jam

1712
01:30:12,320 --> 01:30:15,040
Speaker 3: Mess that's the rocky rock. His name is Jay and

1713
01:30:15,160 --> 01:30:17,200
Speaker 3: he's on his way to be the best DJ J

1714
01:30:17,439 --> 01:30:20,599
Speaker 3: a wild. So we made that record so that while

1715
01:30:20,640 --> 01:30:24,639
Speaker 3: we're opening for Parliament Funkadelic, we could tell the audience

1716
01:30:24,840 --> 01:30:26,040
Speaker 3: who the DJ guy is.

1717
01:30:26,479 --> 01:30:30,559
Speaker 2: But there's a rhyme in there. And my therapist told

1718
01:30:30,600 --> 01:30:33,639
Speaker 2: me about this too, Mom, there's a rhyme in there.

1719
01:30:34,160 --> 01:30:37,240
Speaker 3: Because even around that time the whole Curtis Blow, when

1720
01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:39,560
Speaker 3: we was coming up, we was getting so much success

1721
01:30:40,160 --> 01:30:43,160
Speaker 3: that number one, motherfuckers thought we were selling out.

1722
01:30:44,040 --> 01:30:46,000
Speaker 2: And number two if it thought you were selling out,

1723
01:30:46,120 --> 01:30:47,880
Speaker 2: they thought we were selling out because we you know,

1724
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:48,599
Speaker 2: it's MTV.

1725
01:30:49,720 --> 01:30:52,800
Speaker 4: Whenever you reach a certain amount of success, everybody hating

1726
01:30:52,840 --> 01:30:54,080
Speaker 4: no hammer Hamma.

1727
01:30:53,800 --> 01:30:57,680
Speaker 2: Should fucking get should have got celebrated during the He

1728
01:30:57,840 --> 01:31:00,360
Speaker 2: was the big dolls. He had the endorsements before all

1729
01:31:00,520 --> 01:31:05,240
Speaker 2: and motherfucker's good deals and they don't even care. Motherfuckers

1730
01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:06,800
Speaker 2: don't care about the culture, but they their deals.

1731
01:31:07,200 --> 01:31:09,519
Speaker 3: But there's a rhyme I say, where lives can be

1732
01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:12,240
Speaker 3: never singing the Blues. We got to tell y'all all

1733
01:31:12,640 --> 01:31:14,680
Speaker 3: the good news. The good news is that.

1734
01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:17,719
Speaker 2: There is a crew. And I had wrote that rhyme

1735
01:31:18,280 --> 01:31:19,800
Speaker 2: when Joe put me in the group, but it was

1736
01:31:19,880 --> 01:31:22,560
Speaker 2: just pretend to make believe because I was sending in

1737
01:31:22,600 --> 01:31:25,880
Speaker 2: my basement one day and I said, what would I

1738
01:31:25,960 --> 01:31:28,559
Speaker 2: do if I had to battle by myself the Furies

1739
01:31:28,720 --> 01:31:30,960
Speaker 2: five Cluhit or in Treacherous three.

1740
01:31:31,479 --> 01:31:33,840
Speaker 3: So I wanted to be prepared where lives can be

1741
01:31:34,000 --> 01:31:36,600
Speaker 3: never singing the Blues got to tell y'all all the

1742
01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:40,200
Speaker 3: world all your fucking credits and say the good news,

1743
01:31:40,320 --> 01:31:43,040
Speaker 3: The good news is that there is a crew not five,

1744
01:31:43,240 --> 01:31:46,360
Speaker 3: not four, not three, just two two MC's who are

1745
01:31:46,479 --> 01:31:49,840
Speaker 3: claiming of fame and all other things won't be the

1746
01:31:50,040 --> 01:31:52,880
Speaker 3: same because it's about time for a brand new group

1747
01:31:53,200 --> 01:31:54,920
Speaker 3: run DMC to put you up on the.

1748
01:31:54,920 --> 01:31:58,879
Speaker 2: School you went out, I said, the battle rock. Goddamn.

1749
01:31:58,960 --> 01:32:03,400
Speaker 3: It's when I said that the industry started changing. It

1750
01:32:03,560 --> 01:32:06,160
Speaker 3: opened the door for l It opened the door for pe,

1751
01:32:06,320 --> 01:32:08,200
Speaker 3: It opened the door for all of us.

1752
01:32:08,600 --> 01:32:10,920
Speaker 2: When we got inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall

1753
01:32:10,960 --> 01:32:15,040
Speaker 2: of Fame in nine, they called me over DMC, I

1754
01:32:15,120 --> 01:32:17,200
Speaker 2: gotta tell you something, you guys was prophetic. What do

1755
01:32:17,280 --> 01:32:17,559
Speaker 2: you mean?

1756
01:32:18,280 --> 01:32:20,800
Speaker 3: In nineteen eighty five they told me, y'all made a

1757
01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:23,920
Speaker 3: record called the King of Rock. We had the balls

1758
01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:26,160
Speaker 3: and gus the screen that we were the King of Rock.

1759
01:32:27,560 --> 01:32:30,519
Speaker 3: A video with Larry Budd Melman from the David Letterman

1760
01:32:30,600 --> 01:32:33,920
Speaker 3: Show denying us entry into the Rock and Roll Hall

1761
01:32:33,920 --> 01:32:36,240
Speaker 3: of Fame. You guys can't come in here. This is

1762
01:32:36,280 --> 01:32:38,400
Speaker 3: a rock and roll museum. And then we screened we

1763
01:32:38,520 --> 01:32:41,599
Speaker 3: go in Trassey Museum. They hit me with this, don't

1764
01:32:41,640 --> 01:32:43,960
Speaker 3: you know that the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame

1765
01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:48,360
Speaker 3: didn't exist in eighty five? It didn't start till eighty six.

1766
01:32:49,080 --> 01:32:55,280
Speaker 2: Shit, y'all made that in eighty five. Holy shit, no instance,

1767
01:32:55,360 --> 01:32:56,680
Speaker 2: at least the fifties.

1768
01:32:56,760 --> 01:32:57,439
Speaker 3: There's a rocker.

1769
01:32:57,840 --> 01:33:04,639
Speaker 2: It didn't start tell eighty six. How could the whole

1770
01:33:04,840 --> 01:33:11,120
Speaker 2: video it didn't start till eighty six. Lookrect the profits

1771
01:33:11,520 --> 01:33:17,439
Speaker 2: the fucking exactly, it's crazy so all in all, but

1772
01:33:17,800 --> 01:33:21,200
Speaker 2: I say all this because is even when hip hop

1773
01:33:21,439 --> 01:33:26,160
Speaker 2: changed and became the music industry and said, the thing

1774
01:33:26,240 --> 01:33:29,400
Speaker 2: that kept running Me running Jay did was nobody could

1775
01:33:29,439 --> 01:33:31,200
Speaker 2: outdo us on the show. Right.

1776
01:33:32,200 --> 01:33:34,479
Speaker 3: We opened for Big, we opened for Park, We opened

1777
01:33:34,520 --> 01:33:37,040
Speaker 3: for parking Big, and it was crazy about them. They

1778
01:33:37,120 --> 01:33:40,559
Speaker 3: didn't know no better pop. There's no way I'm going

1779
01:33:40,680 --> 01:33:44,400
Speaker 3: on after run DMC. And this was POC and is

1780
01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:45,280
Speaker 3: fucking prime.

1781
01:33:48,080 --> 01:33:50,759
Speaker 2: Here's the beautiful thing about it. The promoter is losing

1782
01:33:50,840 --> 01:33:53,960
Speaker 2: it because if we go, if POC goes on before us,

1783
01:33:54,080 --> 01:33:57,559
Speaker 2: paks not knowing, half the crowd gonna leave because all

1784
01:33:57,640 --> 01:34:00,840
Speaker 2: the half that crowds did because of him know my music.

1785
01:34:01,040 --> 01:34:03,080
Speaker 3: I heard of us, so me running. They have to

1786
01:34:03,080 --> 01:34:03,640
Speaker 3: go in the room and.

1787
01:34:03,680 --> 01:34:06,200
Speaker 2: Said Poc, we're very flat at and stuff like that,

1788
01:34:06,640 --> 01:34:08,679
Speaker 2: but we have to tell Park, this is your audience

1789
01:34:09,520 --> 01:34:11,200
Speaker 2: see those people. We have to tell Park no, we

1790
01:34:11,520 --> 01:34:14,360
Speaker 2: we're happy, POC. You know we have an arsenal, but

1791
01:34:14,560 --> 01:34:18,240
Speaker 2: those people are here for you, and he tells the promoter.

1792
01:34:18,120 --> 01:34:20,519
Speaker 3: All right, fuck that ship. The only reason I'm going

1793
01:34:20,600 --> 01:34:22,840
Speaker 3: on is after run DMC is because they told me

1794
01:34:22,920 --> 01:34:24,760
Speaker 3: to and he went out there and been popped. We

1795
01:34:24,840 --> 01:34:29,040
Speaker 3: open for Big a couple of so Daddy would call us, Biggie.

1796
01:34:29,200 --> 01:34:31,639
Speaker 3: We want Joe to open for the bad Boy Reunion.

1797
01:34:31,720 --> 01:34:34,479
Speaker 3: This is when all the motherfuckers was together, Biggie sitting there.

1798
01:34:34,920 --> 01:34:39,080
Speaker 3: Ain't no way I'm going on after running MC. You

1799
01:34:39,240 --> 01:34:41,760
Speaker 3: get my ass kicked, y'all. Mothers got Peter Piper and

1800
01:34:41,840 --> 01:34:44,840
Speaker 3: beat the big big yes, oh big, yes you know that.

1801
01:34:45,439 --> 01:34:46,840
Speaker 3: But these people are hit you.

1802
01:34:47,600 --> 01:34:49,760
Speaker 2: So the reason why I say that it's not about us,

1803
01:34:49,840 --> 01:34:53,680
Speaker 2: It's about that thing that they know is untouchable. Like

1804
01:34:54,000 --> 01:34:56,920
Speaker 2: this hip hop shit is at old school. Isn't old

1805
01:34:57,040 --> 01:35:00,120
Speaker 2: or used to be. It's eternal. Right. Every time we

1806
01:35:00,160 --> 01:35:03,639
Speaker 2: would show up, even in the new era, motherfuckers would

1807
01:35:03,640 --> 01:35:07,080
Speaker 2: be like, oh shit, Pete Rock saved us. What's crazy

1808
01:35:07,080 --> 01:35:09,080
Speaker 2: about life? Is this The very things that you do

1809
01:35:09,439 --> 01:35:13,320
Speaker 2: down with people, The very things that you do for

1810
01:35:13,640 --> 01:35:18,720
Speaker 2: people with people, whether good or bad, will happen to you.

1811
01:35:19,280 --> 01:35:22,400
Speaker 2: So what did people say, run DMC did with Aerosmith,

1812
01:35:22,560 --> 01:35:25,599
Speaker 2: We brought him back. We did walked his way over

1813
01:35:25,640 --> 01:35:27,240
Speaker 2: with Aerosmith, brought him back.

1814
01:35:28,240 --> 01:35:31,559
Speaker 3: Going into the nineties, everybody that had said Park Big,

1815
01:35:31,960 --> 01:35:33,960
Speaker 3: Naughty by Nature list and that we opened the door,

1816
01:35:34,200 --> 01:35:36,920
Speaker 3: it was their show. But everywhere we went they were

1817
01:35:36,960 --> 01:35:40,639
Speaker 3: still worshiping us. And it's because you allen. We wasn't

1818
01:35:40,720 --> 01:35:43,160
Speaker 3: participating as much. We wasn't on the radio, wasn't on

1819
01:35:43,240 --> 01:35:45,840
Speaker 3: a charte and have a video. Pete rock comes along

1820
01:35:45,920 --> 01:35:48,320
Speaker 3: for the down with the King Red record, I Got

1821
01:35:48,400 --> 01:35:50,920
Speaker 3: your home, Come over my house. We go out to

1822
01:35:51,080 --> 01:35:54,080
Speaker 3: Mount Vernon to Pete Rock's house. We go down in

1823
01:35:54,160 --> 01:35:56,280
Speaker 3: the basement and this is Pete Rocky goes over to

1824
01:35:56,400 --> 01:36:00,200
Speaker 3: the NPC. It's the button that music comes on. It's

1825
01:36:00,240 --> 01:36:04,600
Speaker 3: the nineties now got all of the Coogi rap. Motherfucker's

1826
01:36:04,680 --> 01:36:08,320
Speaker 3: killed y'all. Motherfucker like the dope shit going on. But

1827
01:36:08,400 --> 01:36:10,640
Speaker 3: we still run the MC. But we're still eighties and

1828
01:36:11,000 --> 01:36:14,240
Speaker 3: find it. We're still working too, because we're doing a

1829
01:36:14,280 --> 01:36:16,600
Speaker 3: lot of the white rock shows. We ain't doing the

1830
01:36:16,720 --> 01:36:19,760
Speaker 3: New Ship. We're doing Jay's there hanging, but we don't

1831
01:36:19,760 --> 01:36:21,920
Speaker 3: have a song for that, so we go on the basement.

1832
01:36:21,960 --> 01:36:24,559
Speaker 3: He hit Pete Rock hit in PC and he hates

1833
01:36:24,560 --> 01:36:27,120
Speaker 3: to want to say that, well, running him. We see

1834
01:36:27,160 --> 01:36:29,760
Speaker 3: that for Aerosmith. Pete Rock did for us. He brought

1835
01:36:29,840 --> 01:36:31,479
Speaker 3: us back. Wow, he's running.

1836
01:36:31,600 --> 01:36:35,720
Speaker 2: Pete Rock saved our careers. Heat Rock.

1837
01:36:36,640 --> 01:36:38,760
Speaker 3: He hit the button that music came on. He goes

1838
01:36:38,800 --> 01:36:42,240
Speaker 3: over to the turntables, says he's a DJ. He takes

1839
01:36:42,320 --> 01:36:47,479
Speaker 3: runs house. The part of my verse will go. Name

1840
01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:50,519
Speaker 3: is mc all, Tom Gray Bust the most rhymes, Robers

1841
01:36:50,560 --> 01:36:53,120
Speaker 3: New York State Reporters, Clark produces y'all.

1842
01:36:53,320 --> 01:36:55,439
Speaker 2: They want to be done with the King and want

1843
01:36:55,520 --> 01:36:57,720
Speaker 2: that man for the he stays safe. Sat down with

1844
01:36:57,880 --> 01:36:59,960
Speaker 2: the King over that me. I posted that this morning

1845
01:37:00,040 --> 01:37:04,519
Speaker 2: and Sony Music made me take it down? Was the

1846
01:37:04,600 --> 01:37:09,000
Speaker 2: verse that just house? First they made you take it down?

1847
01:37:09,160 --> 01:37:14,639
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. I was heated. They so go ahead, bad,

1848
01:37:15,040 --> 01:37:18,000
Speaker 2: We make down with the King, great record man. Then

1849
01:37:18,040 --> 01:37:22,360
Speaker 2: we make the video. Go look at the video. Right.

1850
01:37:23,800 --> 01:37:24,800
Speaker 2: We didn't invite his ass.

1851
01:37:26,439 --> 01:37:29,840
Speaker 4: He heard everybody wanted to be a part of it

1852
01:37:31,320 --> 01:37:33,280
Speaker 4: because let me, you did you doubt that that was

1853
01:37:33,320 --> 01:37:35,160
Speaker 4: something like that would happen where everybody wants to me.

1854
01:37:35,640 --> 01:37:37,040
Speaker 3: Were you guys not of us in the thought?

1855
01:37:37,120 --> 01:37:41,759
Speaker 2: But when it came, it's so humbling, right un whoever

1856
01:37:41,920 --> 01:37:45,400
Speaker 2: was in town came show love. But I'm gonna let

1857
01:37:45,439 --> 01:37:47,559
Speaker 2: you finish. But let me just stop me for one second,

1858
01:37:47,600 --> 01:37:50,559
Speaker 2: because you know all day you've been you've been saying

1859
01:37:50,600 --> 01:37:52,960
Speaker 2: how much stan Lee means to you and how much

1860
01:37:53,080 --> 01:37:56,160
Speaker 2: his superhero. Well, our show is about giving people they flowers,

1861
01:37:56,320 --> 01:37:58,240
Speaker 2: and I wanted to give you your flowers face to face,

1862
01:37:58,360 --> 01:38:01,240
Speaker 2: man man and tell you you you you you my hero.

1863
01:38:01,600 --> 01:38:03,240
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You are heroes. You know

1864
01:38:03,240 --> 01:38:05,000
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. We wanted to give you your flowers

1865
01:38:05,200 --> 01:38:12,760
Speaker 2: like man, like you know we've been doing this. We've

1866
01:38:12,760 --> 01:38:14,320
Speaker 2: been doing this for for seven years.

1867
01:38:14,400 --> 01:38:15,360
Speaker 3: I mean, he's day one.

1868
01:38:15,520 --> 01:38:18,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, let me just tell you something. Let me just

1869
01:38:18,720 --> 01:38:20,719
Speaker 2: say something. When I knew I had you booked yesterday,

1870
01:38:20,760 --> 01:38:23,000
Speaker 2: I couldn't even sleep, like it was I felt like

1871
01:38:23,080 --> 01:38:25,200
Speaker 2: it was Christmas. Like I felt like today was Christmas.

1872
01:38:25,240 --> 01:38:27,680
Speaker 2: Like I couldn't sleep. I woke up. I wanted to

1873
01:38:27,760 --> 01:38:30,360
Speaker 2: make sure I did everything. I worked out, I made

1874
01:38:30,400 --> 01:38:32,240
Speaker 2: sure I didn't drink, I made sure, Like I just

1875
01:38:32,320 --> 01:38:36,000
Speaker 2: wanted to be everything, because that's what like I said

1876
01:38:36,040 --> 01:38:37,920
Speaker 2: it in the intro and I said, if it wasn't

1877
01:38:37,960 --> 01:38:40,799
Speaker 2: for a run DMC, they probably wouldn't be a Compona noriegga,

1878
01:38:40,840 --> 01:38:42,479
Speaker 2: which means it wouldn't be a nory, which means it

1879
01:38:42,760 --> 01:38:44,800
Speaker 2: might not be a drink champion, and so on and

1880
01:38:44,880 --> 01:38:47,320
Speaker 2: so forth with. You know the legacy that you guys

1881
01:38:47,479 --> 01:38:49,320
Speaker 2: laid down, and I want you to know face to

1882
01:38:49,400 --> 01:38:51,760
Speaker 2: face man, the man is that it takes nothing away

1883
01:38:51,800 --> 01:38:53,240
Speaker 2: from me to tell you how great you are. You

1884
01:38:53,360 --> 01:38:57,080
Speaker 2: guys are great. You guys are guys, are legends, you

1885
01:38:57,120 --> 01:38:59,880
Speaker 2: guys are icons, And I just want to continue to

1886
01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:01,760
Speaker 2: supported this is what this show is about. You know,

1887
01:39:02,080 --> 01:39:04,320
Speaker 2: so many people, so many people like they get ten

1888
01:39:04,400 --> 01:39:06,640
Speaker 2: years in this game, or they get twelve years or

1889
01:39:06,640 --> 01:39:08,680
Speaker 2: twenty years in this game, and they say that they

1890
01:39:09,160 --> 01:39:10,880
Speaker 2: washed up. You know that's not that doesn't this is

1891
01:39:10,960 --> 01:39:13,519
Speaker 2: no other genre of music, knowing the genre of music

1892
01:39:13,600 --> 01:39:16,160
Speaker 2: they says that. And you know, to celebrate Hip Hop

1893
01:39:16,200 --> 01:39:18,080
Speaker 2: fifty and the know that you guys got damned there

1894
01:39:18,200 --> 01:39:19,519
Speaker 2: forty of the.

1895
01:39:19,560 --> 01:39:23,360
Speaker 7: Fifty years of the goddamn fifty crazy goddamn Let's make

1896
01:39:23,439 --> 01:39:30,080
Speaker 7: some goddamn I mean yeah, I mean the same way y'all.

1897
01:39:30,120 --> 01:39:32,320
Speaker 7: For everybody said that, yo, you would. That's how it

1898
01:39:32,400 --> 01:39:33,439
Speaker 7: started comic books.

1899
01:39:33,439 --> 01:39:36,160
Speaker 2: I don't know if you're no Riggs Morales of course,

1900
01:39:37,360 --> 01:39:42,320
Speaker 2: Dominicant partner part of this. Yeah, Riggs is my partner's amazing,

1901
01:39:42,360 --> 01:39:45,360
Speaker 2: So you're Dominicant. I just.

1902
01:39:47,479 --> 01:39:50,120
Speaker 3: Came about. I went to Riggs for some music stuff

1903
01:39:50,160 --> 01:39:51,559
Speaker 3: and when I sat down with Riggs, he was.

1904
01:39:51,600 --> 01:39:54,680
Speaker 2: Like this, and I was like, hey, Rix, he was

1905
01:39:55,760 --> 01:39:58,720
Speaker 2: and he used these words. He said, you DMC, you

1906
01:39:58,840 --> 01:40:01,120
Speaker 2: are my superhero. And he asked me what was it

1907
01:40:01,240 --> 01:40:02,760
Speaker 2: like when he was a kid, and I was like, well,

1908
01:40:02,800 --> 01:40:05,920
Speaker 2: I used to just reclare, recollect into a comic book.

1909
01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:08,639
Speaker 2: So we sat there. We didn't talk about hip hop

1910
01:40:08,720 --> 01:40:10,479
Speaker 2: or music. He said it for three hours and talked

1911
01:40:10,479 --> 01:40:13,080
Speaker 2: about comic book. After he heard me say all this

1912
01:40:13,160 --> 01:40:14,800
Speaker 2: stuff that I was doing, he said, d you should

1913
01:40:14,880 --> 01:40:17,840
Speaker 2: do a comic book. And I said, nope, don't get no,

1914
01:40:18,160 --> 01:40:20,560
Speaker 2: don't put me in that hell no, I know what

1915
01:40:20,600 --> 01:40:22,439
Speaker 2: you're trying to do. And he was like what, I

1916
01:40:22,520 --> 01:40:25,360
Speaker 2: didn't want to do a comic book and make the

1917
01:40:25,439 --> 01:40:28,680
Speaker 2: comic book culture thing. Oh, just because this motherfucker had

1918
01:40:28,720 --> 01:40:31,280
Speaker 2: a couple of hit records. Do anything because there's a

1919
01:40:31,520 --> 01:40:33,280
Speaker 2: that's how much you cared about it, right, But then

1920
01:40:33,400 --> 01:40:36,120
Speaker 2: Rick said, no, d us comic books for for hip

1921
01:40:36,160 --> 01:40:38,559
Speaker 2: hop and by you being hip hop, this will work.

1922
01:40:38,680 --> 01:40:41,519
Speaker 2: So Rigg is the guy that made the Darryl Man.

1923
01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:44,639
Speaker 2: He said, you can't use Marvel. I was pissed off.

1924
01:40:46,000 --> 01:40:47,519
Speaker 2: I want to use it. I've got to be Marble.

1925
01:40:48,040 --> 01:40:50,800
Speaker 3: Can't use DC, can't use Image, can't use value, and

1926
01:40:50,920 --> 01:40:53,519
Speaker 3: can't use milestone. What are you gonna call your comic

1927
01:40:53,600 --> 01:40:54,200
Speaker 3: book company?

1928
01:40:54,360 --> 01:40:56,519
Speaker 2: Now? This is a beauty of hip hop shit. I

1929
01:40:56,560 --> 01:41:00,320
Speaker 2: don't know DMN C d's for doing it all of

1930
01:41:00,400 --> 01:41:02,960
Speaker 2: the time. MS for the ROMs that all minds cease

1931
01:41:03,000 --> 01:41:04,800
Speaker 2: for cool cool ass can be run used to say,

1932
01:41:04,800 --> 01:41:07,280
Speaker 2: while you're wear those glasses, oh I can see what

1933
01:41:07,400 --> 01:41:09,519
Speaker 2: goodness day? Please for doing it all of the time.

1934
01:41:09,720 --> 01:41:11,800
Speaker 3: MS for the ROMs that on minds cease for cool

1935
01:41:11,840 --> 01:41:13,960
Speaker 3: cool ass can be why do I wear contacts?

1936
01:41:14,760 --> 01:41:17,720
Speaker 2: So you can see what do they start with? So

1937
01:41:18,439 --> 01:41:20,639
Speaker 2: it's it's relevant. But then I'll go, you know what, Riggs,

1938
01:41:20,920 --> 01:41:22,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna just be making comic books. And you know

1939
01:41:22,960 --> 01:41:25,719
Speaker 2: how Riggs is I'm gonna just call them my company.

1940
01:41:26,080 --> 01:41:32,960
Speaker 2: Daryl Makes Comics show. We're gonna do a gitar because

1941
01:41:33,040 --> 01:41:40,560
Speaker 2: thank you Riggs legend. It's part of shady Wreckage Sorcerers.

1942
01:41:40,960 --> 01:41:41,240
Speaker 2: It was.

1943
01:41:43,080 --> 01:41:46,600
Speaker 3: That you understand inspirations are two way street. Why are

1944
01:41:46,640 --> 01:41:50,639
Speaker 3: you telling me that inspires me to still keep going?

1945
01:41:51,080 --> 01:41:52,960
Speaker 2: Let me tell you how much of a legend you

1946
01:41:53,080 --> 01:41:58,679
Speaker 2: guys are. Halloween had just passed, right, and then my wife,

1947
01:41:58,960 --> 01:42:02,880
Speaker 2: my wife comes in the house and she buys my

1948
01:42:03,000 --> 01:42:06,439
Speaker 2: son a fake run DMC outfit, and I was like,

1949
01:42:06,479 --> 01:42:09,200
Speaker 2: you gotta get that out of my house. I had

1950
01:42:09,280 --> 01:42:11,840
Speaker 2: two stripes. I was like, you cannot do that to

1951
01:42:12,000 --> 01:42:14,920
Speaker 2: my son. But my wife, not knowing, she's just thinking

1952
01:42:15,040 --> 01:42:18,040
Speaker 2: like she's thinking like they're paying homage, but I'm saying

1953
01:42:18,320 --> 01:42:21,000
Speaker 2: they're paying the wrong homage. Like if you're gonna do,

1954
01:42:21,800 --> 01:42:25,040
Speaker 2: you gotta go get this, Yes, yeah, I can't let

1955
01:42:25,520 --> 01:42:27,439
Speaker 2: go out like that. I was just like, yo, But

1956
01:42:27,560 --> 01:42:30,599
Speaker 2: that's how rariconic it is. People dress up like yeah

1957
01:42:30,640 --> 01:42:34,720
Speaker 2: off for a Halloween. That's crazy crazy. Did you ever

1958
01:42:34,760 --> 01:42:38,880
Speaker 2: see the fake one DMC constant? Yes, yeah, you gotta

1959
01:42:38,920 --> 01:42:39,760
Speaker 2: se what we do.

1960
01:42:40,880 --> 01:42:44,639
Speaker 3: Just so we went and went to court and all

1961
01:42:45,520 --> 01:42:47,040
Speaker 3: they can sell it because all I gotta do is

1962
01:42:47,160 --> 01:42:53,560
Speaker 3: change one little thing. Wow bullshit, you know, and the

1963
01:42:53,640 --> 01:42:56,720
Speaker 3: world knows where it's coming from, right, like to check

1964
01:42:56,880 --> 01:42:59,000
Speaker 3: just the one little thing, right, Why do you think

1965
01:42:59,080 --> 01:43:00,880
Speaker 3: some of these cars look like the Benzes and the

1966
01:43:00,920 --> 01:43:06,160
Speaker 3: Meschas thing we tried to see. You're crazy, it's great,

1967
01:43:06,200 --> 01:43:09,280
Speaker 3: But what we should do is put an official run DMC.

1968
01:43:09,880 --> 01:43:15,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that's that's the key. That's because everybody will

1969
01:43:15,520 --> 01:43:16,439
Speaker 2: go by that anyway.

1970
01:43:16,479 --> 01:43:18,600
Speaker 3: I mean all I get, I get two things in

1971
01:43:18,640 --> 01:43:22,679
Speaker 3: the holiday season Christmas. I can't go to them all

1972
01:43:23,040 --> 01:43:26,760
Speaker 3: because Muslims, Jewish people, Chinese people, they screaming the rhyme

1973
01:43:26,920 --> 01:43:33,320
Speaker 3: Christmas E, Christmas, Halloween, Justice Halloween. My text message, my

1974
01:43:33,560 --> 01:43:37,040
Speaker 3: emails and everybody that sees me gets this.

1975
01:43:37,280 --> 01:43:39,679
Speaker 2: I'm in seven to eleven, I'm in the super Guests.

1976
01:43:39,680 --> 01:43:46,000
Speaker 3: All be tonight, you know, and then my text. But

1977
01:43:46,120 --> 01:43:47,120
Speaker 3: here's a beautiful thing.

1978
01:43:47,800 --> 01:43:51,439
Speaker 2: The kids going to school, right, the parents dressed them

1979
01:43:51,520 --> 01:43:54,559
Speaker 2: up over the last thirty six years since that record.

1980
01:43:54,800 --> 01:43:58,000
Speaker 2: But now kids that like it's tricky.

1981
01:43:57,680 --> 01:44:01,439
Speaker 3: Because it's hot on TikTok, go to discover and see

1982
01:44:01,520 --> 01:44:03,920
Speaker 3: who are the guys behind this record that they don't

1983
01:44:04,280 --> 01:44:05,840
Speaker 3: they don't know me like you let us know the

1984
01:44:05,920 --> 01:44:08,400
Speaker 3: song they kids in now saying mom, may I want

1985
01:44:08,400 --> 01:44:09,479
Speaker 3: to dress up like run DMC.

1986
01:44:10,479 --> 01:44:13,599
Speaker 2: That's the beautiful thing connecting with that next g right,

1987
01:44:13,720 --> 01:44:15,720
Speaker 2: you know what's even more beautiful is that you guys

1988
01:44:15,760 --> 01:44:20,080
Speaker 2: are timeless like that. That that's what's even more beautiful.

1989
01:44:20,120 --> 01:44:23,519
Speaker 2: It's just your timeless. Like I was speaking speaking the

1990
01:44:25,000 --> 01:44:27,400
Speaker 2: trust from Naughty by Nature and I was telling him,

1991
01:44:27,439 --> 01:44:30,400
Speaker 2: I was like, yo, like, most of the time, if

1992
01:44:30,439 --> 01:44:32,240
Speaker 2: I'm in the party and they're not playing at least

1993
01:44:32,280 --> 01:44:34,560
Speaker 2: one or two or three Norty by Nature part of

1994
01:44:34,600 --> 01:44:36,439
Speaker 2: the party, I don't want to be And if they

1995
01:44:36,439 --> 01:44:39,719
Speaker 2: were not playing Bets and they're not playing Run DMC

1996
01:44:39,800 --> 01:44:42,640
Speaker 2: at a party, I pretty much probably start don't like

1997
01:44:42,680 --> 01:44:48,759
Speaker 2: the DJ. We at that fucking fucking Rolling Stone level.

1998
01:44:49,520 --> 01:44:51,960
Speaker 2: So let me ask you, Right, I did an interview

1999
01:44:52,040 --> 01:44:55,920
Speaker 2: with my friend Brian earlier and he had asked me

2000
01:44:56,000 --> 01:44:57,679
Speaker 2: this question. So I want to ask you this question.

2001
01:44:58,000 --> 01:45:04,040
Speaker 2: What was the moment when you felt like you made it? Oh,

2002
01:45:04,160 --> 01:45:06,560
Speaker 2: the moment that I felt like I made it was

2003
01:45:09,320 --> 01:45:10,479
Speaker 2: it was eighty six.

2004
01:45:11,800 --> 01:45:16,960
Speaker 3: Because of walk this way now to us to a

2005
01:45:17,040 --> 01:45:20,960
Speaker 3: whole other level. And this is a crazy moment. I'm

2006
01:45:21,000 --> 01:45:28,280
Speaker 3: on the Grand Central Parkway traffic. We're no no open road. Okay, Uh,

2007
01:45:28,520 --> 01:45:32,080
Speaker 3: the actually were Parsons Boulevard at something. I'm triving right there,

2008
01:45:33,360 --> 01:45:39,320
Speaker 3: and I'm driving and not knowing because because we used

2009
01:45:39,360 --> 01:45:42,599
Speaker 3: to I used to walk around as DMC because that's

2010
01:45:42,640 --> 01:45:43,759
Speaker 3: how everybody else was dressing.

2011
01:45:43,840 --> 01:45:45,960
Speaker 2: So I fit in and unless you knew it was

2012
01:45:46,040 --> 01:45:46,559
Speaker 2: run DMC.

2013
01:45:47,240 --> 01:45:48,880
Speaker 3: My man, Bud buddy, we used to stand in the

2014
01:45:48,960 --> 01:45:52,719
Speaker 3: corner hollis and but my boy would hit me CD.

2015
01:45:53,240 --> 01:45:55,960
Speaker 3: That's the hundredth time that car came around the block.

2016
01:45:56,439 --> 01:45:58,759
Speaker 3: And all the doing is looking and can't believe running

2017
01:45:58,840 --> 01:46:02,120
Speaker 3: J and Jay because run with the family man and

2018
01:46:02,240 --> 01:46:04,439
Speaker 3: Jay was still in the street on the corner.

2019
01:46:04,600 --> 01:46:05,439
Speaker 2: So here's the time.

2020
01:46:05,520 --> 01:46:09,960
Speaker 3: I'm driving on the Grand Central Parkway in my nineteen

2021
01:46:09,960 --> 01:46:11,880
Speaker 3: eighty six Fleetwood Caddy.

2022
01:46:12,200 --> 01:46:17,760
Speaker 2: Okay, it was a SOB Tobies in my back black

2023
01:46:17,800 --> 01:46:20,320
Speaker 2: Fleetwood with the wolf is in the behind the sea

2024
01:46:20,360 --> 01:46:23,680
Speaker 2: hall and I'm driving and I just look over at

2025
01:46:23,720 --> 01:46:28,280
Speaker 2: the car next to me and they crash. Oh shit,

2026
01:46:29,400 --> 01:46:30,320
Speaker 2: because they're staring at you.

2027
01:46:30,680 --> 01:46:30,880
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2028
01:46:31,000 --> 01:46:33,120
Speaker 2: I pulled off the holl and said, oh shit, I

2029
01:46:33,200 --> 01:46:39,080
Speaker 2: can't walk around like this. They saw de glasses had

2030
01:46:39,200 --> 01:46:42,080
Speaker 2: Adida stripes. They didn't see the forty I was holding,

2031
01:46:42,520 --> 01:46:45,720
Speaker 2: but I look over and they crashed right, So.

2032
01:46:45,840 --> 01:46:49,720
Speaker 3: Then I knew that's the day. I said, Oh, now

2033
01:46:49,840 --> 01:46:52,080
Speaker 3: I know what Mick Jacker and Michael Jackson feel like.

2034
01:46:52,640 --> 01:46:53,760
Speaker 3: It was nineteen eighty six.

2035
01:46:53,920 --> 01:46:58,280
Speaker 2: The game my Adida's first non athletic entity to receive

2036
01:46:58,360 --> 01:47:03,160
Speaker 2: a major sport like because I want to, I'm gonna

2037
01:47:03,160 --> 01:47:06,200
Speaker 2: cover walk this Way real quick, right, Okay, So the

2038
01:47:06,360 --> 01:47:11,240
Speaker 2: rumor has it is Rick. This is Rick Rubin's idea. No,

2039
01:47:11,920 --> 01:47:15,360
Speaker 2: oh wow. Now Rick is one of the greatest producer,

2040
01:47:15,520 --> 01:47:16,679
Speaker 2: but everybody will tell.

2041
01:47:16,520 --> 01:47:19,640
Speaker 3: You he don't create anything. Okay, he comes in and

2042
01:47:19,760 --> 01:47:22,120
Speaker 3: brings the best out of you. But you got let

2043
01:47:22,160 --> 01:47:24,800
Speaker 3: me see, he ain't coming. He's not like writing and

2044
01:47:24,920 --> 01:47:27,200
Speaker 3: this and that, and I got a song idea. The

2045
01:47:27,320 --> 01:47:30,560
Speaker 3: original idea came about like this. We was finishing and

2046
01:47:30,640 --> 01:47:34,559
Speaker 3: raising hell album. So Jay goes, Yo, we gotta make

2047
01:47:34,600 --> 01:47:38,759
Speaker 3: a beat jam. So we was just gonna sample toys

2048
01:47:38,840 --> 01:47:42,760
Speaker 3: an attic YO sample. We didn't know it was walked

2049
01:47:42,800 --> 01:47:45,679
Speaker 3: this Way. Me and Rovers said, Yo, get the album

2050
01:47:45,760 --> 01:47:49,479
Speaker 3: with the toys on the cover and loop number four

2051
01:47:50,200 --> 01:47:51,639
Speaker 3: because the DJs.

2052
01:47:51,680 --> 01:47:53,560
Speaker 2: We was scratched the title of the records house, so

2053
01:47:53,640 --> 01:47:55,799
Speaker 2: the rival DJs, we just knew we want.

2054
01:47:55,640 --> 01:48:02,320
Speaker 3: To step debt Step debt, and I remember that shit

2055
01:48:02,400 --> 01:48:06,080
Speaker 3: down there, bet. So it's gonna be three minutes and

2056
01:48:06,160 --> 01:48:09,519
Speaker 3: thirty seconds of a loop of that, because if y'all understand,

2057
01:48:09,600 --> 01:48:11,200
Speaker 3: Walk this Way, like I said, it was in the

2058
01:48:11,200 --> 01:48:13,960
Speaker 3: first rock record we had, Rock Box. It wasn't the

2059
01:48:14,000 --> 01:48:16,280
Speaker 3: first rock rapper record at King of Rock, people not

2060
01:48:16,479 --> 01:48:18,680
Speaker 3: Raising Hell. We had a song called Raising Hell and

2061
01:48:19,320 --> 01:48:22,160
Speaker 3: that was us making in us rhyming. So we was

2062
01:48:22,240 --> 01:48:25,800
Speaker 3: gonna loop walk this Way, and we was gonna rhyme

2063
01:48:25,800 --> 01:48:28,000
Speaker 3: about how good we were. And I still remember my

2064
01:48:28,160 --> 01:48:30,400
Speaker 3: rounds to this day. We had the whole rhyme thing done.

2065
01:48:31,000 --> 01:48:33,519
Speaker 3: It was gonna come on then, and I was supposed

2066
01:48:33,520 --> 01:48:35,320
Speaker 3: to go because we came out in eighty three.

2067
01:48:35,360 --> 01:48:37,680
Speaker 2: It's eighty six. Now I'll go, I'm DMC in the

2068
01:48:37,760 --> 01:48:40,200
Speaker 2: place to be, been wrapping on a mic since eighty three.

2069
01:48:40,320 --> 01:48:42,880
Speaker 3: I'm the greatest MC in history. They will never be

2070
01:48:42,960 --> 01:48:45,000
Speaker 3: an MC better than me. And it run was supposed

2071
01:48:45,000 --> 01:48:47,120
Speaker 3: to go. I'm DJ Run and I'm the more typical

2072
01:48:47,200 --> 01:48:49,400
Speaker 3: run the MC shit. So we had that going on.

2073
01:48:49,600 --> 01:48:51,680
Speaker 2: Rick Rubin, who was our producer Jomp, comes in.

2074
01:48:51,720 --> 01:48:56,400
Speaker 3: The studio and he says these words, Yo, y'all should

2075
01:48:56,400 --> 01:48:59,120
Speaker 3: do walk this way over. So we think it from

2076
01:48:59,160 --> 01:49:02,400
Speaker 3: a limited hip perspective. Motherfucker, what you think we're gonna do.

2077
01:49:02,400 --> 01:49:05,160
Speaker 3: We're gonna sample this ship. We're gonna rhyme over. He says, no,

2078
01:49:05,760 --> 01:49:08,800
Speaker 3: do the record over the way the band originally did it.

2079
01:49:09,920 --> 01:49:13,519
Speaker 3: So that was Rick Ruben's beautiful idea. And me and

2080
01:49:13,600 --> 01:49:15,840
Speaker 3: Run said no, hell no.

2081
01:49:16,120 --> 01:49:18,960
Speaker 2: Book running was funny because he used to always hold

2082
01:49:19,000 --> 01:49:23,560
Speaker 2: my books up and go got rhymes, rhymes? Why the

2083
01:49:23,600 --> 01:49:24,920
Speaker 2: fuck you want us to sing this?

2084
01:49:25,120 --> 01:49:28,520
Speaker 3: And we had never heard the lyrics because the DJ's

2085
01:49:28,600 --> 01:49:31,040
Speaker 3: never let it play that far. So Rick tapes the

2086
01:49:31,160 --> 01:49:34,880
Speaker 3: vinyl off the record, go in these basement, put the

2087
01:49:34,960 --> 01:49:38,360
Speaker 3: record on, take a pen and paper, let the record play,

2088
01:49:38,760 --> 01:49:40,840
Speaker 3: and write down the lyrics so y'all can learn them.

2089
01:49:41,760 --> 01:49:44,840
Speaker 3: So we drive, We leave grom chun King House of Metal.

2090
01:49:45,080 --> 01:49:47,800
Speaker 3: We drive from junk King back to my basement. We

2091
01:49:47,880 --> 01:49:56,640
Speaker 3: put the record on ben and they gotta understand anticipation.

2092
01:49:56,840 --> 01:49:59,800
Speaker 3: We never heard what was gonna happen then that she said,

2093
01:50:01,680 --> 01:50:05,439
Speaker 3: backshop lover, how you know there for Oh hell no, helly,

2094
01:50:05,680 --> 01:50:08,280
Speaker 3: we going no fuck that ship. No, we ain't doing

2095
01:50:08,360 --> 01:50:11,240
Speaker 3: this this hill billy gibberous this and Russell screaming that

2096
01:50:11,320 --> 01:50:14,600
Speaker 3: Joey motherfucking this and that run arguing with this, hell no,

2097
01:50:14,720 --> 01:50:16,719
Speaker 3: hell no, we ain't a fucking phone up.

2098
01:50:16,600 --> 01:50:18,760
Speaker 2: And I hated to do record at first. Oh my god,

2099
01:50:18,840 --> 01:50:20,479
Speaker 2: well what it was. We didn't want to do that.

2100
01:50:20,800 --> 01:50:24,920
Speaker 2: We don't do that that shop. But you understand it's

2101
01:50:24,920 --> 01:50:27,240
Speaker 2: our first time hearing it. It didn't digest. It was

2102
01:50:27,360 --> 01:50:28,280
Speaker 2: just that ship.

2103
01:50:28,360 --> 01:50:33,840
Speaker 3: Ain't fucking um um. People seem to think that. The

2104
01:50:34,360 --> 01:50:36,519
Speaker 3: people seem to think that the being them ce you

2105
01:50:36,640 --> 01:50:39,200
Speaker 3: need a closet full of clothes and ice up jewelry,

2106
01:50:39,600 --> 01:50:43,000
Speaker 3: pocket full of dollars, walkers every flavor, stuck up attitude

2107
01:50:43,000 --> 01:50:45,599
Speaker 3: and another kind of behavior. I'm sorry to say that's

2108
01:50:45,640 --> 01:50:48,160
Speaker 3: how it was before. But people ain't going for that

2109
01:50:48,400 --> 01:50:48,760
Speaker 3: no more.

2110
01:50:48,840 --> 01:50:51,080
Speaker 2: You gotta give a performance, because by now you should

2111
01:50:51,120 --> 01:50:53,320
Speaker 2: know that you're giving a party out a flash and

2112
01:50:53,400 --> 01:50:55,080
Speaker 2: show another grand mastercaso.

2113
01:50:55,160 --> 01:51:00,400
Speaker 3: That wasn't my I just those industry movers go up

2114
01:51:00,439 --> 01:51:05,280
Speaker 3: to Cassie, you know much, so we go, No, we hadn't.

2115
01:51:05,320 --> 01:51:08,200
Speaker 3: We didn't let it digest back showed love. However, he

2116
01:51:08,360 --> 01:51:10,920
Speaker 3: was doing it. No, no, no, no, no, hell no,

2117
01:51:11,120 --> 01:51:11,439
Speaker 3: hell no.

2118
01:51:11,800 --> 01:51:15,240
Speaker 2: Joey Smith was rhyming on on that. Let me show

2119
01:51:15,240 --> 01:51:17,759
Speaker 2: you what happened. We ain't doing that ship. That's corny.

2120
01:51:17,800 --> 01:51:18,920
Speaker 3: We want to fucking rhyme.

2121
01:51:19,040 --> 01:51:22,400
Speaker 2: Man. Run was like Jay, motherfucker, you are a king

2122
01:51:22,479 --> 01:51:25,080
Speaker 2: of rock, You're a rock box. This is what we do.

2123
01:51:25,640 --> 01:51:27,920
Speaker 3: So Jay's trying to convince us and we arguing on

2124
01:51:28,080 --> 01:51:31,320
Speaker 3: that message. Yeah, so then Jay goes slow the fuck down.

2125
01:51:32,240 --> 01:51:34,720
Speaker 3: Listen he uses these words and this was the game

2126
01:51:34,800 --> 01:51:40,160
Speaker 3: to listen to Steven's flow, Baci love, I need to come.

2127
01:51:41,320 --> 01:51:44,439
Speaker 3: Now we're hearing it. We wasn't before. Remember it was gibberish,

2128
01:51:45,000 --> 01:51:47,920
Speaker 3: but Ja listened to his flow. I understand that language.

2129
01:51:48,479 --> 01:51:51,519
Speaker 3: Vaccine lover. Oh shit, we can do this ship. So

2130
01:51:51,680 --> 01:51:54,160
Speaker 3: we learn the records. Now this is funny. Y'all can

2131
01:51:54,240 --> 01:51:58,760
Speaker 3: go to YouTube and hear this version. We still didn't

2132
01:51:58,760 --> 01:52:01,519
Speaker 3: want to do it. So the original demo of Walk

2133
01:52:01,600 --> 01:52:03,000
Speaker 3: This Way Run Winning.

2134
01:52:02,760 --> 01:52:06,439
Speaker 2: It took the whole first verse back seat love behind

2135
01:52:06,520 --> 01:52:08,679
Speaker 2: if to cover, talk to my daddy, say, I ain't

2136
01:52:08,680 --> 01:52:10,439
Speaker 2: seen nothing. Did it go you go? Dean? We went

2137
01:52:10,520 --> 01:52:13,240
Speaker 2: and just did them lamess version of that shit at all.

2138
01:52:13,600 --> 01:52:16,000
Speaker 2: When we tried to leave the studio, Jay was fucking

2139
01:52:16,120 --> 01:52:18,840
Speaker 2: standing at the fucking door with his hand like, if

2140
01:52:18,880 --> 01:52:20,640
Speaker 2: you don't go back in there and do this run

2141
01:52:20,720 --> 01:52:22,000
Speaker 2: demn shit, I'm shoot jumping.

2142
01:52:29,160 --> 01:52:31,720
Speaker 3: So we go in there and Jay said, let's flow it.

2143
01:52:31,880 --> 01:52:34,200
Speaker 3: He said, don't do it like Steven did it. Do

2144
01:52:34,280 --> 01:52:37,280
Speaker 3: it like run DMC would do it. That's another game too.

2145
01:52:38,040 --> 01:52:41,000
Speaker 3: Oh we can switch off like we didn't know. So

2146
01:52:41,200 --> 01:52:43,240
Speaker 3: that that's the version that's you her. So it was

2147
01:52:43,400 --> 01:52:46,960
Speaker 3: Rick Ruben's crown breaking, universal, brilliant idea.

2148
01:52:47,040 --> 01:52:48,040
Speaker 2: To do it with.

2149
01:52:48,760 --> 01:52:52,400
Speaker 3: To do it over now, his was crazy. It didn't

2150
01:52:52,479 --> 01:52:55,200
Speaker 3: in there with Rick. While we were doing that. Rick's

2151
01:52:55,240 --> 01:53:00,760
Speaker 3: on the phone calling Boston. My name is Rick. I

2152
01:53:00,920 --> 01:53:03,120
Speaker 3: know you know who run demn C is. We want

2153
01:53:03,160 --> 01:53:04,280
Speaker 3: to do your record over that?

2154
01:53:04,400 --> 01:53:06,960
Speaker 2: Don't want to do it? Hold on?

2155
01:53:07,560 --> 01:53:09,920
Speaker 3: This is an arrowsman, just to see the people. Okay,

2156
01:53:09,960 --> 01:53:10,479
Speaker 3: who is this?

2157
01:53:10,800 --> 01:53:13,960
Speaker 2: Imagine that? Then? This is Rick. My name is Rick Rubin.

2158
01:53:14,040 --> 01:53:15,960
Speaker 2: I know you know who run DMC is. Do you

2159
01:53:16,040 --> 01:53:18,880
Speaker 2: want to do the record over? Hold on? Some guy

2160
01:53:19,000 --> 01:53:21,640
Speaker 2: named Rick Ruben on the phone and they want to

2161
01:53:21,680 --> 01:53:23,640
Speaker 2: do it. Yeah, and Steven say, yeah, we know what's run.

2162
01:53:23,760 --> 01:53:25,479
Speaker 3: DMC do what records you do? We want to do

2163
01:53:25,560 --> 01:53:29,960
Speaker 3: walk this way over. So Rick got them to say, yeah,

2164
01:53:30,000 --> 01:53:32,840
Speaker 3: we'll do it with you. He got them to come

2165
01:53:33,280 --> 01:53:35,519
Speaker 3: to New York to do the record with us. So

2166
01:53:35,640 --> 01:53:38,040
Speaker 3: we walk in the studio one day and they in

2167
01:53:38,200 --> 01:53:41,040
Speaker 3: there in the first I'm more of the rock guy,

2168
01:53:41,840 --> 01:53:43,759
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, But I'm not sure because

2169
01:53:43,760 --> 01:53:44,639
Speaker 3: I don't even.

2170
01:53:44,560 --> 01:53:46,160
Speaker 2: Know rocks from the radio. I didn't have the hour.

2171
01:53:46,560 --> 01:53:49,640
Speaker 2: So when I walk in the studio this day, I

2172
01:53:49,800 --> 01:53:52,559
Speaker 2: see Stephen and Joe Perry and the first thing out

2173
01:53:52,600 --> 01:53:55,920
Speaker 2: me and Run's mother is oh shit, it's the Rolling Stone.

2174
01:53:59,200 --> 01:53:59,800
Speaker 2: So you know that.

2175
01:54:00,040 --> 01:54:02,360
Speaker 3: People was like, you know what I'm saying. But that

2176
01:54:02,560 --> 01:54:05,680
Speaker 3: was like an icebreaker. Stephen Taller said, no, when out

2177
01:54:05,680 --> 01:54:08,439
Speaker 3: there rolling Stones? Where else Swift? Those are the other guys,

2178
01:54:08,479 --> 01:54:10,280
Speaker 3: And then we laughed it off. But let me tell

2179
01:54:10,280 --> 01:54:13,760
Speaker 3: you so much crazy about Rick's decision. If we would

2180
01:54:13,800 --> 01:54:16,960
Speaker 3: have did it over our way, just rhyming over it,

2181
01:54:17,280 --> 01:54:19,400
Speaker 3: or he's just been another DMC rock song, would have

2182
01:54:19,439 --> 01:54:21,680
Speaker 3: been cool. You probably listened to it on the way

2183
01:54:21,760 --> 01:54:24,120
Speaker 3: to work or something. Remember that came out. If we

2184
01:54:24,120 --> 01:54:26,400
Speaker 3: would have did it over the way they did it.

2185
01:54:26,800 --> 01:54:30,240
Speaker 3: Without them, it would have been oh okay, cool. But

2186
01:54:30,360 --> 01:54:34,680
Speaker 3: the only reason it was groundbreaking is because Rick made

2187
01:54:34,720 --> 01:54:39,800
Speaker 3: them do it with us on MTV. So now their

2188
01:54:39,920 --> 01:54:43,120
Speaker 3: fans is going, what the hell is Aero Smith doing

2189
01:54:43,200 --> 01:54:46,160
Speaker 3: with the rap dudes? And our fans is going, what

2190
01:54:46,360 --> 01:54:47,920
Speaker 3: the hell is run DMC doing.

2191
01:54:47,840 --> 01:54:49,800
Speaker 2: With the rock show? But if you look at that video,

2192
01:54:49,880 --> 01:54:54,280
Speaker 2: I've been to South Sudan, wow, to perform the War

2193
01:54:54,400 --> 01:54:58,440
Speaker 2: Zone of South Sudan, So Africa, where they had war

2194
01:54:58,720 --> 01:54:59,640
Speaker 2: chopping hands.

2195
01:55:00,560 --> 01:55:03,280
Speaker 3: The one week I go there, they ain't fighting. Why

2196
01:55:03,760 --> 01:55:06,320
Speaker 3: they love Run DMC. They love Naughty by Nature, they

2197
01:55:06,360 --> 01:55:09,040
Speaker 3: love pop, they love big. When I left him went

2198
01:55:09,080 --> 01:55:10,200
Speaker 3: back to fucking Jesus.

2199
01:55:10,400 --> 01:55:12,120
Speaker 2: But I bring that up.

2200
01:55:12,160 --> 01:55:14,560
Speaker 3: I've been in South student, I've been a Russian.

2201
01:55:14,320 --> 01:55:16,560
Speaker 2: About the publishing. Did you guys get publishing on the

2202
01:55:16,600 --> 01:55:17,920
Speaker 2: walk this way? No, it's all.

2203
01:55:17,960 --> 01:55:21,360
Speaker 3: That's great question, because great President, it's all. I only

2204
01:55:21,400 --> 01:55:23,400
Speaker 3: get money when I show up and performance. All they

2205
01:55:23,480 --> 01:55:24,440
Speaker 3: get all that right now?

2206
01:55:25,160 --> 01:55:28,520
Speaker 2: The original yes and that, so they was doing that

2207
01:55:28,600 --> 01:55:30,760
Speaker 2: back then. All they was a new version that they

2208
01:55:30,840 --> 01:55:31,120
Speaker 2: was doing.

2209
01:55:33,480 --> 01:55:35,720
Speaker 3: The only thing that's not live on that record is

2210
01:55:35,720 --> 01:55:37,040
Speaker 3: the drums he was the drummer ship.

2211
01:55:37,080 --> 01:55:38,880
Speaker 2: But they didn't write the Liric. They just read this

2212
01:55:39,000 --> 01:55:43,120
Speaker 2: ad in everything. They recreated everything. But people tell me

2213
01:55:43,360 --> 01:55:46,640
Speaker 2: from Ukraine, I've been to Ukraine to perform. I've been

2214
01:55:46,680 --> 01:55:49,560
Speaker 2: a Russia to perform. Shout out to Ukraine, Russia. Beautiful

2215
01:55:49,600 --> 01:55:51,120
Speaker 2: people in all those countries.

2216
01:55:51,120 --> 01:55:54,040
Speaker 3: That are walking around wearing Naughty by Nature, public Enemy Church,

2217
01:55:54,120 --> 01:55:56,480
Speaker 3: crazy shit. But everywhere I go they say DMC.

2218
01:55:58,040 --> 01:56:00,640
Speaker 2: Don't you know when Steven Tyler took that Mike's standing

2219
01:56:00,640 --> 01:56:02,760
Speaker 2: in that video and knock down the water which separating

2220
01:56:02,760 --> 01:56:05,400
Speaker 2: you on It didn't just happened in the video, happened

2221
01:56:05,440 --> 01:56:07,040
Speaker 2: in the world. It did. So that's the power of

2222
01:56:07,120 --> 01:56:09,480
Speaker 2: hip hop, that's power of music. It really has an

2223
01:56:09,520 --> 01:56:11,520
Speaker 2: effect on that. But it was Rix Brend.

2224
01:56:11,600 --> 01:56:14,400
Speaker 3: Now the reason why I say that, if Rick Pitton

2225
01:56:14,720 --> 01:56:17,720
Speaker 3: suggested to do that, it wouldn't have been what it is.

2226
01:56:18,120 --> 01:56:20,160
Speaker 2: What year did that record come out? Hast eighty six,

2227
01:56:20,360 --> 01:56:23,200
Speaker 2: eighty six, nineteen eighty and it gave birth to olymp

2228
01:56:23,240 --> 01:56:28,160
Speaker 2: Biscuit Okay, yeah, changed to razel conc. It was the

2229
01:56:28,200 --> 01:56:30,120
Speaker 2: first time I remember being in New York City and

2230
01:56:30,160 --> 01:56:33,839
Speaker 2: I remember a record, hearing a rap record playing on KTU,

2231
01:56:34,000 --> 01:56:36,600
Speaker 2: playing on the pop stations, playing on you know what

2232
01:56:36,640 --> 01:56:39,920
Speaker 2: I mean, not just about I crossed over that I

2233
01:56:40,000 --> 01:56:41,880
Speaker 2: believe at that time we only had w b LS.

2234
01:56:42,120 --> 01:56:45,520
Speaker 2: I don't ninety seven power that was the record that

2235
01:56:46,320 --> 01:56:48,440
Speaker 2: not and not that record was so dope that it

2236
01:56:48,560 --> 01:56:52,200
Speaker 2: was rod but it allowed all music to cross over.

2237
01:56:52,360 --> 01:56:54,080
Speaker 2: That's it wasn't happening until.

2238
01:56:54,200 --> 01:56:57,680
Speaker 4: And and did Aerosmith? Did they know and appreciate what

2239
01:56:57,800 --> 01:57:00,760
Speaker 4: you what you guys? Actually, yeah, it's funny footage of this.

2240
01:57:00,920 --> 01:57:01,640
Speaker 4: You could look it up.

2241
01:57:01,880 --> 01:57:05,080
Speaker 2: During the session, Jay shows them what he used to

2242
01:57:05,160 --> 01:57:08,360
Speaker 2: do as a DJ. He's cutting up, fucking walked this way,

2243
01:57:08,400 --> 01:57:11,000
Speaker 2: and Stephen Tyler on camera goes, when are you gonna

2244
01:57:11,080 --> 01:57:13,360
Speaker 2: hear me? And Jay Sop said, oh, that's it, Seve,

2245
01:57:13,560 --> 01:57:16,760
Speaker 2: we don't and everybody just claim and then Steve was like, yo,

2246
01:57:16,880 --> 01:57:19,720
Speaker 2: teach me the dj. Jay actually taught Steven Tyler the

2247
01:57:19,800 --> 01:57:23,320
Speaker 2: DJ ain't with his own record. Yeah, because then you know,

2248
01:57:23,400 --> 01:57:25,080
Speaker 2: they knew, they knew, they knew about hip hop, they

2249
01:57:25,160 --> 01:57:27,600
Speaker 2: knew about running m C and they were it was

2250
01:57:27,680 --> 01:57:29,960
Speaker 2: cool for them because you know, they say, we brought

2251
01:57:30,000 --> 01:57:33,000
Speaker 2: them back, But what we did was this was happening

2252
01:57:33,080 --> 01:57:36,120
Speaker 2: for them, and my joke is they could have made

2253
01:57:36,160 --> 01:57:38,960
Speaker 2: a record with God, Jesus and Moses for real and

2254
01:57:39,040 --> 01:57:39,880
Speaker 2: nobody would have cared.

2255
01:57:40,440 --> 01:57:42,360
Speaker 3: But they took a chance. You know what, we got

2256
01:57:42,440 --> 01:57:44,360
Speaker 3: to lose to do this for Brundy m C didn't

2257
01:57:44,520 --> 01:57:46,040
Speaker 3: just it changed the world.

2258
01:57:46,240 --> 01:57:49,760
Speaker 2: That's always so kids, man, always be open to try

2259
01:57:50,000 --> 01:57:53,080
Speaker 2: something new because it might not just change your life,

2260
01:57:53,120 --> 01:57:55,240
Speaker 2: will have changed the world. But that's to walk this

2261
01:57:55,320 --> 01:57:55,800
Speaker 2: way story.

2262
01:57:55,800 --> 01:57:58,920
Speaker 3: Because of Rick Ruper and when Rick was working with us,

2263
01:57:59,000 --> 01:58:01,480
Speaker 3: we had all the records I'm Racing Hell done. I'm

2264
01:58:01,480 --> 01:58:04,080
Speaker 3: gonna tell you the coolert story about Rick. When he

2265
01:58:04,200 --> 01:58:07,280
Speaker 3: was doing Peter Piper. I didn't like my part when

2266
01:58:07,320 --> 01:58:09,160
Speaker 3: I come on and get the Piper Brighte repers right,

2267
01:58:10,800 --> 01:58:13,160
Speaker 3: but just the part where I break off and I go.

2268
01:58:13,360 --> 01:58:16,000
Speaker 3: Jay's like King Mida, since I was told everything that

2269
01:58:16,080 --> 01:58:17,200
Speaker 3: he touched turned to go.

2270
01:58:17,480 --> 01:58:19,400
Speaker 2: He's the greatest of the great. Get us traight, He's great.

2271
01:58:19,640 --> 01:58:20,880
Speaker 2: So I didn't like that.

2272
01:58:21,520 --> 01:58:23,480
Speaker 3: After we sat back and listened to you know, we

2273
01:58:23,520 --> 01:58:26,080
Speaker 3: had hit It run, I didn't like the way that

2274
01:58:26,360 --> 01:58:29,040
Speaker 3: sounded on a Racing Hell album. I was like, Rick,

2275
01:58:29,080 --> 01:58:30,480
Speaker 3: I gotta do it over this and over and he's

2276
01:58:30,520 --> 01:58:32,600
Speaker 3: telling me as a producer, no, leave it, leave it,

2277
01:58:32,680 --> 01:58:35,760
Speaker 3: And I couldn't see what he was was.

2278
01:58:35,840 --> 01:58:37,600
Speaker 2: I couldn't see or hear what he was saying. So

2279
01:58:37,680 --> 01:58:39,240
Speaker 2: I'm like, Rick, I got to do this over. So

2280
01:58:39,440 --> 01:58:44,160
Speaker 2: speaking of cocaine, cod tonguing house, some metal, it's like

2281
01:58:44,320 --> 01:58:46,400
Speaker 2: break thirty in the morning, turn House Metals. That's the

2282
01:58:46,400 --> 01:58:47,440
Speaker 2: one who was just in China.

2283
01:58:47,200 --> 01:58:53,120
Speaker 3: Town, right, yeah, on Center Street. So Rick goes, Rick, God,

2284
01:58:53,160 --> 01:58:58,400
Speaker 3: it's three thirty in the morning. Forties coke gosh, hell,

2285
01:58:58,480 --> 01:59:03,720
Speaker 3: that was the first Red Bull had. Yeah, wake up

2286
01:59:03,760 --> 01:59:05,600
Speaker 3: in the money then do it? Give me a forty?

2287
01:59:07,520 --> 01:59:09,880
Speaker 2: So Rick goes, all right, do you want to change it?

2288
01:59:10,040 --> 01:59:13,360
Speaker 2: Show up at eleven o'clock tomorrow morning? All right.

2289
01:59:14,800 --> 01:59:16,320
Speaker 3: So I probably didn't go to sleep. I think I

2290
01:59:16,520 --> 01:59:18,840
Speaker 3: went to the World or some shit like that, to

2291
01:59:18,960 --> 01:59:20,520
Speaker 3: the club where you come out in this morning.

2292
01:59:20,600 --> 01:59:21,040
Speaker 2: It's right.

2293
01:59:21,360 --> 01:59:24,520
Speaker 3: So I come back space all right, and I'm telling Rick, I.

2294
01:59:24,600 --> 01:59:27,360
Speaker 2: Gotta be right. We're running. Say it's got to be right.

2295
01:59:27,480 --> 01:59:29,360
Speaker 2: So the piper pepper, I don't like to wear a

2296
01:59:29,480 --> 01:59:31,600
Speaker 2: sound like this, So he says, okay, motherfucker going there

2297
01:59:31,720 --> 01:59:33,760
Speaker 2: and later verse So I go in there.

2298
01:59:33,840 --> 01:59:38,040
Speaker 3: Jays like King miny since I was told like yeah, like,

2299
01:59:39,480 --> 01:59:41,560
Speaker 3: so I come again and this is Rick's the coolest

2300
01:59:41,600 --> 01:59:43,640
Speaker 3: for this episode was back here. He says, I'm gonna

2301
01:59:43,720 --> 01:59:46,720
Speaker 3: play what you did just now. He plays it.

2302
01:59:47,320 --> 01:59:50,040
Speaker 2: Now, I'm gonna play what you did last night and

2303
01:59:50,160 --> 01:59:52,360
Speaker 2: he plays at Jay's night, King Minus is ours. So

2304
01:59:53,280 --> 01:59:55,440
Speaker 2: he says, which one is better? And I go, oh,

2305
01:59:55,720 --> 01:59:58,040
Speaker 2: the one I did last night, And he says this.

2306
01:59:58,720 --> 02:00:00,200
Speaker 2: You don't have to work hard to be you, and

2307
02:00:00,240 --> 02:00:02,720
Speaker 2: you don't have to impress to be anybody. He said,

2308
02:00:02,800 --> 02:00:04,920
Speaker 2: you're so dope on the mic and a suit now

2309
02:00:05,200 --> 02:00:05,920
Speaker 2: that you are.

2310
02:00:05,880 --> 02:00:08,760
Speaker 3: Showing no effort and you better than half the motherfuckus

2311
02:00:08,840 --> 02:00:12,640
Speaker 3: on the microud we get the fuck out in. So

2312
02:00:12,880 --> 02:00:14,520
Speaker 3: he was, you know what I'm saying, But what he

2313
02:00:14,680 --> 02:00:17,800
Speaker 3: was saying was you didn't need to old Piper Peppers over,

2314
02:00:17,920 --> 02:00:20,000
Speaker 3: you know, little bo pee call losses shit.

2315
02:00:20,040 --> 02:00:22,120
Speaker 2: He said, nah, you're taking them somewhere else.

2316
02:00:22,440 --> 02:00:25,040
Speaker 3: And that's a producer you tell you know how guitar

2317
02:00:25,160 --> 02:00:28,000
Speaker 3: players or singers you gotta go side. I'm just a rapper.

2318
02:00:28,040 --> 02:00:30,040
Speaker 3: I'm not Freddie Mercury, I'm not a mager. But he

2319
02:00:30,200 --> 02:00:32,200
Speaker 3: was like, you take Jay's like King Midas as I

2320
02:00:32,440 --> 02:00:34,400
Speaker 3: was told everything that he told, and he said the

2321
02:00:34,520 --> 02:00:35,640
Speaker 3: music is open right now.

2322
02:00:35,840 --> 02:00:38,160
Speaker 2: He said, watch how hard that should be. So I'm

2323
02:00:38,200 --> 02:00:40,760
Speaker 2: thinking you gotta be a lesson for young people. I'm

2324
02:00:40,760 --> 02:00:45,040
Speaker 2: thinking you gotta be violent to be hard aggressing, you

2325
02:00:45,080 --> 02:00:47,680
Speaker 2: can lay back and be stronger than everyone else.

2326
02:00:48,000 --> 02:00:50,440
Speaker 3: So Rick, there was a rick walked this way in

2327
02:00:50,520 --> 02:00:52,280
Speaker 3: my Peter Piper rhyme. Thank you, Rick.

2328
02:00:53,160 --> 02:00:54,800
Speaker 2: So let me ask you. I always be wanting to

2329
02:00:54,840 --> 02:00:58,040
Speaker 2: ask you. Who is Mary Marian? Why she was bugging?

2330
02:01:00,360 --> 02:01:06,280
Speaker 2: That's another Rick? Really? Yeah, Rn was taking Mary Mary

2331
02:01:06,440 --> 02:01:10,240
Speaker 2: off of Super Disco Breaks. It's a monkey record. It's

2332
02:01:10,320 --> 02:01:15,760
Speaker 2: the monkeys Marry Mary? Where are you going to marry?

2333
02:01:20,560 --> 02:01:23,960
Speaker 2: And we come some monkeys on? Which was on Super

2334
02:01:24,040 --> 02:01:28,880
Speaker 2: Disco Break Volume three. It's on the break peece a wow.

2335
02:01:29,120 --> 02:01:31,480
Speaker 2: So Run was taking that and I can't stop. We

2336
02:01:31,560 --> 02:01:34,080
Speaker 2: were trying to think of a routine to make, so

2337
02:01:34,440 --> 02:01:37,760
Speaker 2: we sampled it. Rick comes in the studio and he says,

2338
02:01:37,960 --> 02:01:39,680
Speaker 2: you know, to the boof, you know you push the button,

2339
02:01:40,240 --> 02:01:43,640
Speaker 2: don't say Mary Mary? Where you going to say? Marry Mary?

2340
02:01:43,680 --> 02:01:50,720
Speaker 2: Why are you bugging? Okay, Boof, go very very why

2341
02:01:51,960 --> 02:01:56,840
Speaker 2: I can't stop? So marry not a real person. No,

2342
02:02:03,480 --> 02:02:04,680
Speaker 2: I wait for you to come back for a great

2343
02:02:04,760 --> 02:02:10,080
Speaker 2: time of slunt. Oh hold on cool? All right, you

2344
02:02:10,280 --> 02:02:14,600
Speaker 2: you talked too much? Is that ever? Shut up? Is

2345
02:02:14,680 --> 02:02:18,000
Speaker 2: that about a snitch? No, it's nothing, it's not about

2346
02:02:18,000 --> 02:02:18,600
Speaker 2: a snitchka.

2347
02:02:18,880 --> 02:02:24,440
Speaker 3: No, it's just it's just it's more of rundium cs, hilariomedy,

2348
02:02:24,560 --> 02:02:25,760
Speaker 3: comedic side right.

2349
02:02:25,960 --> 02:02:27,480
Speaker 2: It was just a record that we told. We got

2350
02:02:27,560 --> 02:02:30,240
Speaker 2: sued for that too and had to pay because we

2351
02:02:30,440 --> 02:02:33,960
Speaker 2: never heard the record. That's why these lawsuits are gonna

2352
02:02:33,960 --> 02:02:36,120
Speaker 2: be get getting crazy. We never heard the record.

2353
02:02:36,360 --> 02:02:38,960
Speaker 3: We didn't know there's a record from the fifties that goes,

2354
02:02:39,000 --> 02:02:41,880
Speaker 3: you talk too much and you never shut up.

2355
02:02:42,120 --> 02:02:42,960
Speaker 2: I said you talk.

2356
02:02:43,040 --> 02:02:45,880
Speaker 3: We didn't know that, get them. So yeah, we were

2357
02:02:45,960 --> 02:02:47,080
Speaker 3: just trying to be funny.

2358
02:02:47,640 --> 02:02:51,080
Speaker 2: Hey, you over there know about your can You're like

2359
02:02:51,200 --> 02:02:54,880
Speaker 2: the independent network news on channel. So it was just

2360
02:02:55,160 --> 02:02:58,120
Speaker 2: us trying to be funny. So there was nobody out

2361
02:02:58,200 --> 02:03:00,360
Speaker 2: your crew that talked too much. Run he ran his

2362
02:03:00,480 --> 02:03:04,920
Speaker 2: mouth once we made the record that was Run's record.

2363
02:03:05,520 --> 02:03:08,800
Speaker 2: Running would never shut up. Eric B prophesized, when one

2364
02:03:08,880 --> 02:03:10,920
Speaker 2: day you're going to be a reverend, I love what

2365
02:03:11,040 --> 02:03:14,120
Speaker 2: have Yeah, Run, I'll tell you that story. Eric b

2366
02:03:14,360 --> 02:03:16,680
Speaker 2: was like, what day you want to be here? Because

2367
02:03:17,640 --> 02:03:19,360
Speaker 2: that's why we call him run because he ran his mouth.

2368
02:03:19,400 --> 02:03:20,400
Speaker 2: I was a quiet run.

2369
02:03:22,160 --> 02:03:25,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he became running because of Rush, because Rush

2370
02:03:25,600 --> 02:03:28,400
Speaker 3: rus it was movement. But me, if you listen to

2371
02:03:28,520 --> 02:03:32,440
Speaker 3: my rhymes when I perform, many heart hearts are warm.

2372
02:03:32,840 --> 02:03:35,920
Speaker 3: I'm better known as the Quiet Storm. I don't talk

2373
02:03:36,000 --> 02:03:38,640
Speaker 3: too much, but I got beef. When I kill MC's,

2374
02:03:38,640 --> 02:03:40,839
Speaker 3: I caused grief devastate in my control.

2375
02:03:41,240 --> 02:03:43,600
Speaker 2: It's my main goal. My name is Daryl, his name is.

2376
02:03:43,640 --> 02:03:46,360
Speaker 3: Joe, So if you notice, and all through until the

2377
02:03:46,440 --> 02:03:49,040
Speaker 3: group broke up, people never heard me from me unless

2378
02:03:49,040 --> 02:03:52,760
Speaker 3: I spoke on the microphone. Run was always the voice

2379
02:03:52,760 --> 02:03:56,560
Speaker 3: in the lead. So he ran, and I was the

2380
02:03:56,680 --> 02:04:02,520
Speaker 3: quiet storm like so many East Sais was always there.

2381
02:04:03,000 --> 02:04:05,200
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, right, But Run ran. He

2382
02:04:05,360 --> 02:04:06,200
Speaker 3: was the talk of the one.

2383
02:04:06,920 --> 02:04:12,960
Speaker 2: Holy Moly, grock Moly. The record Jam message. You spoke

2384
02:04:13,000 --> 02:04:17,240
Speaker 2: about it earlier. You said that it was made to

2385
02:04:17,680 --> 02:04:22,920
Speaker 2: because usually people make records like that where someone passed away.

2386
02:04:22,960 --> 02:04:24,680
Speaker 2: But it was like he was making this record about

2387
02:04:24,760 --> 02:04:27,400
Speaker 2: him as he was alive. He was actually giving him

2388
02:04:27,440 --> 02:04:30,840
Speaker 2: his flowers right then. And there was that something you

2389
02:04:30,960 --> 02:04:33,520
Speaker 2: plan was that because like how we spoke earlier, because

2390
02:04:33,560 --> 02:04:37,880
Speaker 2: the DJ was kind of like, well, right, that comes

2391
02:04:37,960 --> 02:04:43,360
Speaker 2: from this the show business, entertainment, music business, motherfuckers that

2392
02:04:43,840 --> 02:04:49,000
Speaker 2: rap right, right, which comes from a cultural hip hop right.

2393
02:04:49,840 --> 02:04:52,480
Speaker 2: And I can say this because people say, we know

2394
02:04:52,600 --> 02:04:54,840
Speaker 2: you're ain't creative, but run DMC created hip ups. So

2395
02:04:54,960 --> 02:04:57,280
Speaker 2: I guess I have the right to say this. I've

2396
02:04:57,320 --> 02:04:59,200
Speaker 2: been saying it. I'm not just saying it now because

2397
02:04:59,240 --> 02:05:00,560
Speaker 2: of conditions. What's going on.

2398
02:05:00,760 --> 02:05:05,280
Speaker 3: I've been saying it's since eighty three. There's it's not

2399
02:05:05,840 --> 02:05:10,280
Speaker 3: hip hop. If there's no DJ there, Wow, it's not

2400
02:05:10,400 --> 02:05:10,760
Speaker 3: hip hop.

2401
02:05:11,320 --> 02:05:17,200
Speaker 2: It's somebody wrapping over something recorded in the studio for

2402
02:05:17,520 --> 02:05:21,600
Speaker 2: record making purposes. Now you can tell you but it's

2403
02:05:21,640 --> 02:05:24,520
Speaker 2: hip hop, yes, but I'm telling you it's not. But

2404
02:05:24,880 --> 02:05:25,480
Speaker 2: it can be.

2405
02:05:25,920 --> 02:05:28,840
Speaker 3: It's just like I never thought hip hop would reach

2406
02:05:28,920 --> 02:05:32,240
Speaker 3: the point where it would be and this is nothing

2407
02:05:32,320 --> 02:05:37,200
Speaker 3: against it. You have Britney Spears and you have Sheryl Crow.

2408
02:05:38,120 --> 02:05:41,440
Speaker 3: So Britney needs choreography, she needs a writer, she needs.

2409
02:05:41,720 --> 02:05:43,640
Speaker 2: She needs therapy too. Yeah, she need all that.

2410
02:05:44,200 --> 02:05:50,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, just needs the guitar and a microphone. So I'm

2411
02:05:51,040 --> 02:05:54,160
Speaker 3: talking from an elemental standpoint. You know what I'm saying,

2412
02:05:55,840 --> 02:05:59,320
Speaker 3: You can't say it's you can't say you're a painter

2413
02:06:02,240 --> 02:06:04,800
Speaker 3: and you're not using a paint BRUSHKA Like.

2414
02:06:04,840 --> 02:06:06,840
Speaker 2: My friend's Sonny, he thinks he's a step forward. He

2415
02:06:06,880 --> 02:06:13,160
Speaker 2: thinks he's a do artworks, and do artwork. So you

2416
02:06:13,200 --> 02:06:19,960
Speaker 2: can be an artist and rap and do a imitation

2417
02:06:20,160 --> 02:06:23,200
Speaker 2: of the hip hop culture. But the reason why we

2418
02:06:23,320 --> 02:06:29,640
Speaker 2: made records about DJ is the entertainment business is not

2419
02:06:30,000 --> 02:06:35,240
Speaker 2: in the business to keep anything holy and sacred. It's

2420
02:06:35,240 --> 02:06:39,200
Speaker 2: just got to move the records. So we wait as

2421
02:06:39,240 --> 02:06:42,560
Speaker 2: soon as they said something about who's that, we was

2422
02:06:42,680 --> 02:06:45,160
Speaker 2: letting people know hip hop.

2423
02:06:45,120 --> 02:06:49,680
Speaker 3: Right, it starts with the DJ. Starts with the DJ,

2424
02:06:50,320 --> 02:06:52,840
Speaker 3: then the MC's coming, or it starts with the music first.

2425
02:06:53,680 --> 02:06:55,880
Speaker 3: So the guy rapping his hip hop music, he's doing

2426
02:06:55,960 --> 02:06:58,320
Speaker 3: hip hop. But I'm talking about any hip hop with

2427
02:06:58,480 --> 02:07:01,880
Speaker 3: a DJ really doing it. So we made the jam

2428
02:07:01,960 --> 02:07:04,520
Speaker 3: Master the J record to let the people know it's

2429
02:07:04,640 --> 02:07:08,240
Speaker 3: DJ's and MC's coming up next to one and only

2430
02:07:08,640 --> 02:07:11,560
Speaker 3: jam Master back up from the rope punks. So that

2431
02:07:11,800 --> 02:07:14,200
Speaker 3: is so that the front of hip hop has done

2432
02:07:14,280 --> 02:07:17,560
Speaker 3: push the groups out the picture, and they don't push

2433
02:07:17,680 --> 02:07:21,360
Speaker 3: the DJs to the back. But the DJs is the

2434
02:07:21,480 --> 02:07:25,800
Speaker 3: foundation of the culture that when I show up, you

2435
02:07:25,920 --> 02:07:27,000
Speaker 3: always gonna see one.

2436
02:07:28,120 --> 02:07:30,160
Speaker 2: You ain't gonna jay never push one. Like I said,

2437
02:07:30,320 --> 02:07:33,640
Speaker 2: technology is an assistant to make it easy. But now

2438
02:07:33,760 --> 02:07:36,800
Speaker 2: I don't have to carry a thousand records in the crate.

2439
02:07:36,880 --> 02:07:38,280
Speaker 2: I just have it on a hard drive.

2440
02:07:38,920 --> 02:07:41,040
Speaker 3: Last night I was in u DJ.

2441
02:07:41,000 --> 02:07:44,760
Speaker 2: Atlanta No not no more, Okay, no more. I write

2442
02:07:44,800 --> 02:07:46,000
Speaker 2: rhymes and using Atlanta.

2443
02:07:46,440 --> 02:07:48,120
Speaker 3: But the last night I was in Atlanta at this

2444
02:07:48,200 --> 02:07:51,720
Speaker 3: event is education conference because of my book Darryl's Dream,

2445
02:07:51,800 --> 02:07:53,600
Speaker 3: Everybody Go Get One. It is a story about me

2446
02:07:53,680 --> 02:07:56,360
Speaker 3: in the third grade that really happened. I do a

2447
02:07:56,400 --> 02:07:57,320
Speaker 3: lot of education.

2448
02:07:57,720 --> 02:07:59,720
Speaker 2: Your moves you was doing in the third grade. Yeah,

2449
02:07:59,840 --> 02:08:02,920
Speaker 2: I had miss Banks. He's left, he left me back,

2450
02:08:02,960 --> 02:08:05,400
Speaker 2: that's all I remember. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2451
02:08:06,800 --> 02:08:08,320
Speaker 3: And I was talking out to this a bit and

2452
02:08:09,200 --> 02:08:12,840
Speaker 3: there was a DJ there with his the CD deck thing, right,

2453
02:08:12,880 --> 02:08:15,760
Speaker 3: And this is funny. You could ask my son before

2454
02:08:15,760 --> 02:08:17,760
Speaker 3: I was he knew I was leaving him. Go get

2455
02:08:17,800 --> 02:08:19,800
Speaker 3: your father, and he just had to tell me. And

2456
02:08:19,880 --> 02:08:22,280
Speaker 3: this is what I love about hip hop, Like it's

2457
02:08:22,320 --> 02:08:25,240
Speaker 3: all hip hop. But when we say real hip hop

2458
02:08:25,320 --> 02:08:28,680
Speaker 3: we just mean hip hop, that this music business is

2459
02:08:28,840 --> 02:08:29,680
Speaker 3: not the essence.

2460
02:08:30,920 --> 02:08:35,280
Speaker 2: They're not. You can't you can't comment on it matter.

2461
02:08:35,320 --> 02:08:38,000
Speaker 2: Fake can't even come to the party. But this DJ

2462
02:08:38,200 --> 02:08:40,640
Speaker 2: just had to show me coming to DMC and he

2463
02:08:40,800 --> 02:08:44,600
Speaker 2: just showed me a picture with him at two Techniques because.

2464
02:08:44,360 --> 02:08:52,160
Speaker 3: He didn't want to be considered not right, original or authentic.

2465
02:08:52,760 --> 02:08:56,280
Speaker 3: So for us, it was important that the group is

2466
02:08:56,440 --> 02:08:59,680
Speaker 3: run DMC and and people have a habit of and

2467
02:08:59,760 --> 02:09:02,360
Speaker 3: we have run d m C. These two people, somebody

2468
02:09:02,400 --> 02:09:05,080
Speaker 3: in the audience will interrupted or I will interrupt.

2469
02:09:05,400 --> 02:09:08,360
Speaker 2: It was three people. Oh yeah, that's right. You know

2470
02:09:08,400 --> 02:09:12,760
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. You're not gonna get But me, he

2471
02:09:12,840 --> 02:09:16,120
Speaker 2: as a fan, when I hear one DMC, I think right,

2472
02:09:16,200 --> 02:09:20,840
Speaker 2: but because you whip us. But overall, here's the question

2473
02:09:20,880 --> 02:09:25,520
Speaker 2: his wife, I'm so passionate. If you look at all

2474
02:09:25,600 --> 02:09:29,840
Speaker 2: the Run DMC covers except for Tougher than Leather, that's the.

2475
02:09:29,960 --> 02:09:33,360
Speaker 3: Only one that Jay was on the cover on the

2476
02:09:33,960 --> 02:09:36,160
Speaker 3: On the Run DMC album. He's on the back with

2477
02:09:36,320 --> 02:09:39,280
Speaker 3: us on the King of Rock album. This is crazy

2478
02:09:39,280 --> 02:09:40,000
Speaker 3: about the industry.

2479
02:09:40,000 --> 02:09:42,000
Speaker 2: He's on the back with his head down because he

2480
02:09:42,160 --> 02:09:45,560
Speaker 2: wasn't signed to Profile records, so they could.

2481
02:09:45,480 --> 02:09:47,520
Speaker 3: Not put him on there. All right, you're not going

2482
02:09:47,600 --> 02:09:48,600
Speaker 3: to show our DJ, so.

2483
02:09:48,640 --> 02:09:50,720
Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about them on every record. Go back

2484
02:09:50,760 --> 02:09:51,560
Speaker 2: and look at the albums.

2485
02:09:51,600 --> 02:09:57,240
Speaker 3: Oh what's crazy is on the on the Run? Actually

2486
02:09:57,560 --> 02:10:03,480
Speaker 3: Run was only signed to the to the Girl and

2487
02:10:03,640 --> 02:10:06,200
Speaker 3: we wasn't signing Profile. We signed to Rustle Russell was

2488
02:10:06,280 --> 02:10:08,600
Speaker 3: signing the Profiles. Run DMC did the deliver the Running

2489
02:10:08,640 --> 02:10:11,920
Speaker 3: see record. We will signed signing Rush Productions. But if

2490
02:10:11,960 --> 02:10:14,800
Speaker 3: you look at the album, I'm doing this.

2491
02:10:15,000 --> 02:10:20,760
Speaker 2: Because Fantastic Far's incredible in theaters, on the scene with

2492
02:10:20,880 --> 02:10:22,960
Speaker 2: the golden voice, through all the People's choice and we

2493
02:10:23,200 --> 02:10:25,760
Speaker 2: rock with the Kangs, still lean. We proved to the

2494
02:10:26,560 --> 02:10:30,280
Speaker 2: MC's that Fantastics number one and when we step on you,

2495
02:10:30,760 --> 02:10:31,400
Speaker 2: you're just like.

2496
02:10:31,480 --> 02:10:34,800
Speaker 3: A roach output it weighs a ton. He's the adoring,

2497
02:10:35,080 --> 02:10:39,000
Speaker 3: he's the ladies man. So can't you understand that I'm done?

2498
02:10:39,200 --> 02:10:44,600
Speaker 3: So it's always the DJ. We call him Flash Crab Master,

2499
02:10:44,760 --> 02:10:48,600
Speaker 3: Flash Disco, Be Easy Mic and I'm the MC. You

2500
02:10:48,720 --> 02:10:50,720
Speaker 3: walk in the place, you listen to the base, you

2501
02:10:50,840 --> 02:10:53,360
Speaker 3: see Melie mel with a smile on his face, King

2502
02:10:53,480 --> 02:10:56,000
Speaker 3: of the thrown of the microphone. You should nobody now

2503
02:10:56,080 --> 02:10:59,080
Speaker 3: should be left alone, Like when Mel came out with

2504
02:10:59,200 --> 02:11:02,840
Speaker 3: the disc to Eminem, he should have just went to

2505
02:11:03,080 --> 02:11:07,040
Speaker 3: fucking rappers might be willing, but they ain't able because

2506
02:11:07,080 --> 02:11:09,800
Speaker 3: I was there, king straight from my cradle, screamed in

2507
02:11:09,880 --> 02:11:12,720
Speaker 3: hollowd shook my rattle, drimed that defeat of them all

2508
02:11:12,840 --> 02:11:15,440
Speaker 3: in battle. There was no food in my silver spoon.

2509
02:11:15,520 --> 02:11:17,280
Speaker 2: But I grew up hard, and I grew up soon.

2510
02:11:17,360 --> 02:11:19,680
Speaker 2: I'm a righteous king and I'm hungry too, and I

2511
02:11:19,800 --> 02:11:21,320
Speaker 2: eat a punks that rap like you.

2512
02:11:21,840 --> 02:11:23,560
Speaker 3: And he should have told he should have did that

2513
02:11:23,680 --> 02:11:26,040
Speaker 3: to Eminem and just called it a rap to you. Mel,

2514
02:11:26,360 --> 02:11:29,160
Speaker 3: don't try to get noon new standard to know. Nobody

2515
02:11:29,280 --> 02:11:31,000
Speaker 3: never know. These motherfuckers don't know.

2516
02:11:31,080 --> 02:11:31,880
Speaker 2: You do that, I do.

2517
02:11:32,520 --> 02:11:34,840
Speaker 3: Focos don't know that melt rhyme like me and running

2518
02:11:34,920 --> 02:11:35,320
Speaker 3: rock him.

2519
02:11:36,640 --> 02:11:39,880
Speaker 2: This is shocking. This shit should go viral. Y'all don't

2520
02:11:39,920 --> 02:11:44,000
Speaker 2: know Mel Scorpio raheem rhyme like fucking Big Daddy Kane.

2521
02:11:44,360 --> 02:11:46,960
Speaker 2: You just never heard it because they were making records.

2522
02:11:47,000 --> 02:11:50,600
Speaker 2: They wasn't fucking put They got bars that will out

2523
02:11:50,680 --> 02:11:52,400
Speaker 2: bar all these guys. You see you look what the

2524
02:11:52,480 --> 02:11:55,200
Speaker 2: fuck he said, rappers might be willing, but they ain't

2525
02:11:55,320 --> 02:11:58,839
Speaker 2: able because I was the king straight from my cradle,

2526
02:11:59,000 --> 02:12:02,120
Speaker 2: screamed in hollowd shook my rattle. I dreamt out the

2527
02:12:02,160 --> 02:12:04,600
Speaker 2: feet of them all in battle. There was no food

2528
02:12:04,680 --> 02:12:07,240
Speaker 2: in my silver'spooon. But I grew up hard, and I

2529
02:12:07,280 --> 02:12:09,320
Speaker 2: grew up soon. And then mol said, I'm a righteous

2530
02:12:09,400 --> 02:12:11,240
Speaker 2: king and I'm hungry too. We should have told him,

2531
02:12:11,640 --> 02:12:13,440
Speaker 2: and I eat up chumpster wrap like you.

2532
02:12:13,760 --> 02:12:15,879
Speaker 3: I met this shark his name was George.

2533
02:12:15,920 --> 02:12:18,520
Speaker 2: Started writing the rhymes like y'all right yo no, started

2534
02:12:18,560 --> 02:12:21,879
Speaker 2: biting mormes, like y'all bite yaws. I started writing morons,

2535
02:12:21,960 --> 02:12:24,360
Speaker 2: shark crew and crew, but I was writing more rhymes

2536
02:12:24,400 --> 02:12:26,600
Speaker 2: than the shark at chew. Then the shark got sick,

2537
02:12:26,720 --> 02:12:29,280
Speaker 2: and then he exploded because he didn't realize that Marobs

2538
02:12:29,440 --> 02:12:29,880
Speaker 2: was loaded.

2539
02:12:30,080 --> 02:12:32,080
Speaker 3: Flew in the air and into the sea, and the

2540
02:12:32,160 --> 02:12:33,160
Speaker 3: whole universe knew.

2541
02:12:33,200 --> 02:12:37,000
Speaker 2: The king was me. You don't wonder battle. You know

2542
02:12:37,040 --> 02:12:40,080
Speaker 2: what I'm saying and what what I'm sweating now, em

2543
02:12:41,080 --> 02:12:42,640
Speaker 2: you didn't go back at him, No, you have to.

2544
02:12:42,760 --> 02:12:45,920
Speaker 2: He killed him, and I'm saying, but everybody happened, didn't

2545
02:12:45,920 --> 02:12:46,400
Speaker 2: they even.

2546
02:12:47,080 --> 02:12:50,840
Speaker 3: Even he got a out of heat for that, But

2547
02:12:50,880 --> 02:12:52,880
Speaker 3: I thought it was hip hop what he did.

2548
02:12:52,960 --> 02:12:54,160
Speaker 2: It was who he came back.

2549
02:12:54,200 --> 02:12:56,400
Speaker 3: But I'm saying me a cast that he should have

2550
02:12:56,480 --> 02:12:59,360
Speaker 3: went Like I was sitting on a corner just to

2551
02:12:59,400 --> 02:13:02,080
Speaker 3: waste so much time. When I realized I was king

2552
02:13:02,160 --> 02:13:04,640
Speaker 3: of the rhyme, I got on the microphone and what

2553
02:13:04,760 --> 02:13:07,280
Speaker 3: do you see? The rest was my legacy.

2554
02:13:07,440 --> 02:13:09,360
Speaker 2: I was born to be the king of the hip

2555
02:13:09,480 --> 02:13:11,120
Speaker 2: hop thing like that.

2556
02:13:11,560 --> 02:13:12,200
Speaker 3: They had this.

2557
02:13:12,320 --> 02:13:15,280
Speaker 2: When I came along. Like what was good about Pete

2558
02:13:15,360 --> 02:13:17,840
Speaker 2: Rocker is when we came back with Down with the King,

2559
02:13:18,160 --> 02:13:21,040
Speaker 2: Down with the King. After did that, it was like, Yo,

2560
02:13:21,160 --> 02:13:23,160
Speaker 2: we're making that ship. And it's funny. When Jay heard

2561
02:13:23,240 --> 02:13:26,680
Speaker 2: that ship, Jay says this, that's the name of the

2562
02:13:26,800 --> 02:13:30,200
Speaker 2: album and that's the single, right, And that was that

2563
02:13:30,960 --> 02:13:33,240
Speaker 2: was one little thing, you know.

2564
02:13:33,360 --> 02:13:35,840
Speaker 3: Bruce Lee says, I'm not afraid of.

2565
02:13:35,880 --> 02:13:41,160
Speaker 2: The man who fucking practices a thousand techniques. I'm afraid

2566
02:13:41,200 --> 02:13:45,040
Speaker 2: of the man that practices one. I'm living with that

2567
02:13:45,160 --> 02:13:48,280
Speaker 2: that work because when we went to the studio, YO,

2568
02:13:48,400 --> 02:13:50,960
Speaker 2: were making that ship, this and that. So Pete comes

2569
02:13:51,040 --> 02:13:54,000
Speaker 2: to me and he's like, Yo, you ain't gotta be king.

2570
02:13:54,600 --> 02:13:57,000
Speaker 2: You ain't gotta be Rock him, you ain't gotta be

2571
02:13:57,160 --> 02:13:59,920
Speaker 2: jay Z, you ain't gotta I want that DMC ship.

2572
02:14:00,680 --> 02:14:01,320
Speaker 2: I'm confused.

2573
02:14:01,360 --> 02:14:03,400
Speaker 3: I'm like, because I'm thinking that I got to write

2574
02:14:03,480 --> 02:14:07,840
Speaker 3: differently now shit, And do you know, motherfucker is the

2575
02:14:08,040 --> 02:14:11,800
Speaker 3: name the shit that we do? Ad libs and fucking

2576
02:14:12,840 --> 02:14:15,040
Speaker 3: metaphors and shit, I don't I just think of my

2577
02:14:15,080 --> 02:14:16,120
Speaker 3: round and say it over to beat.

2578
02:14:16,440 --> 02:14:18,920
Speaker 2: Give me that DMC shit. And I didn't know what

2579
02:14:19,040 --> 02:14:22,440
Speaker 2: to do in the nineties. I'm fucking thirty five years

2580
02:14:22,480 --> 02:14:26,120
Speaker 2: old and hip hosterilia change and shit like that. No,

2581
02:14:26,240 --> 02:14:30,680
Speaker 2: but what I'm just saying, I'm at another water. So

2582
02:14:31,520 --> 02:14:34,240
Speaker 2: Pete Rock says, he just asked me, what the fuck

2583
02:14:34,280 --> 02:14:35,560
Speaker 2: are you doing right now? DMC.

2584
02:14:35,800 --> 02:14:39,240
Speaker 3: But you're like, because remember I wrote I'm DMC in

2585
02:14:39,280 --> 02:14:41,200
Speaker 3: a place to be a true thing about me, son

2586
02:14:41,240 --> 02:14:43,320
Speaker 3: of Byford Brooke DMC for Hollins Queens, I.

2587
02:14:43,400 --> 02:14:45,680
Speaker 2: Was like, well, I'm on tour ill right about that shit.

2588
02:14:46,320 --> 02:14:48,840
Speaker 2: So I was like, okay, I'm taking the tours. I'm

2589
02:14:48,880 --> 02:14:49,720
Speaker 2: wrecking the land.

2590
02:14:50,960 --> 02:14:53,080
Speaker 3: Hip hop could change and they could have all the

2591
02:14:53,200 --> 02:14:56,440
Speaker 3: metaphors and shit, but I keep it hardcore because it's dope, man.

2592
02:14:56,520 --> 02:14:58,520
Speaker 3: That's just the raw old shit that I was doing

2593
02:14:58,560 --> 02:15:00,880
Speaker 3: in seventy six, and it's my turn to get on

2594
02:15:00,920 --> 02:15:02,880
Speaker 3: the mic. I'm gonna do that shit now because this

2595
02:15:03,000 --> 02:15:05,400
Speaker 3: audience never seen it, so I'm stand out.

2596
02:15:06,520 --> 02:15:08,920
Speaker 2: I learned that. So I'm taking the toys, wrecking the

2597
02:15:09,000 --> 02:15:11,160
Speaker 2: land and keeping hardcore because it's dope. Man.

2598
02:15:11,560 --> 02:15:14,120
Speaker 3: These are the roughest, toughest word you ever wrote.

2599
02:15:14,240 --> 02:15:17,640
Speaker 2: And it's not meant for and I don't usually used profanity,

2600
02:15:17,760 --> 02:15:20,280
Speaker 2: but it's not meant for a hole like a slow

2601
02:15:20,440 --> 02:15:21,560
Speaker 2: jam sucker.

2602
02:15:21,720 --> 02:15:24,440
Speaker 3: MCS could never swing with me because of all the

2603
02:15:24,560 --> 02:15:27,880
Speaker 3: things that I bring with me. Only God could be

2604
02:15:28,000 --> 02:15:29,880
Speaker 3: a king to me. And if the go od b

2605
02:15:30,000 --> 02:15:33,880
Speaker 3: and me ken king of p rockets like rhyme other

2606
02:15:33,960 --> 02:15:35,800
Speaker 3: fucking year, and.

2607
02:15:35,840 --> 02:15:37,600
Speaker 2: Then I did. I just went me in DMC and

2608
02:15:37,640 --> 02:15:40,400
Speaker 2: everywhere I go, cool g rolled up on me, can ship,

2609
02:15:40,520 --> 02:15:42,480
Speaker 2: rolled up on me, bumping knuckles, rolled up on me.

2610
02:15:42,600 --> 02:15:45,360
Speaker 2: What you said, if the G O D E BM me,

2611
02:15:45,440 --> 02:15:46,120
Speaker 2: then the key of.

2612
02:15:46,240 --> 02:15:50,840
Speaker 3: The microphone is branded when it's handed to me, or

2613
02:15:50,880 --> 02:15:53,320
Speaker 3: what I say, racophone is branded when it's handed to me.

2614
02:15:53,680 --> 02:15:55,960
Speaker 3: I'm just standing on this planet and I plant m C.

2615
02:15:56,440 --> 02:15:59,840
Speaker 3: The MC fiends always seem to agree that because rocking

2616
02:16:00,120 --> 02:16:04,160
Speaker 3: told me the microphone fiend said, nahed your shit rock

2617
02:16:04,280 --> 02:16:09,600
Speaker 3: him Coogie Rap and Bumpy imagine them three telling you

2618
02:16:09,760 --> 02:16:13,400
Speaker 3: you the dope its motherfucker ever. I was so fucking

2619
02:16:13,600 --> 02:16:16,360
Speaker 3: me about But down with the King, Like I said,

2620
02:16:16,400 --> 02:16:17,760
Speaker 3: down with the King brought us back.

2621
02:16:17,840 --> 02:16:20,320
Speaker 2: And because of Down with the King, we was able

2622
02:16:20,400 --> 02:16:23,040
Speaker 2: to go tour. We was back on MTV with the video,

2623
02:16:23,360 --> 02:16:27,440
Speaker 2: We was back on the radio. That's what hip hop.

2624
02:16:28,000 --> 02:16:30,080
Speaker 2: That's why I say hip hop is it's not old school.

2625
02:16:30,200 --> 02:16:32,840
Speaker 2: Isn't old right? You know what I'm saying. You might

2626
02:16:33,040 --> 02:16:35,920
Speaker 2: know what I did in eighty six, but the twelve

2627
02:16:36,000 --> 02:16:36,440
Speaker 2: year old.

2628
02:16:36,320 --> 02:16:38,879
Speaker 3: Kid, now don't. So when he see that shit, he's new.

2629
02:16:39,760 --> 02:16:43,800
Speaker 3: Kids always had to ask me, now, shit, yo og,

2630
02:16:45,600 --> 02:16:47,800
Speaker 3: you put it down harder than I'm youngins. But I'm

2631
02:16:47,879 --> 02:16:49,879
Speaker 3: putting it down at fifty nine like I did when

2632
02:16:49,920 --> 02:16:52,200
Speaker 3: I was twelve years old. I'm not thinking I'm going

2633
02:16:52,280 --> 02:16:55,000
Speaker 3: into the studio to sell records. I ain't thinking about

2634
02:16:55,080 --> 02:16:58,199
Speaker 3: chart position. I'm thinking, how can I make this fucking dope?

2635
02:16:58,200 --> 02:16:59,600
Speaker 3: What did you do when you was in your room

2636
02:16:59,600 --> 02:17:03,480
Speaker 3: in fifteen? So that's how I approached this craft of minds.

2637
02:17:05,480 --> 02:17:06,039
Speaker 2: God damn.

2638
02:17:09,800 --> 02:17:13,560
Speaker 3: And it's fucking fun. But it's fucking fun.

2639
02:17:13,720 --> 02:17:15,680
Speaker 2: Man. What's one of the places that you've been through,

2640
02:17:15,959 --> 02:17:18,000
Speaker 2: been through the tour in the world that she was like,

2641
02:17:18,040 --> 02:17:22,400
Speaker 2: what the fuck am I doing here? Look, you said

2642
02:17:22,400 --> 02:17:23,920
Speaker 2: Sudan earlier, But.

2643
02:17:25,480 --> 02:17:26,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it was.

2644
02:17:26,480 --> 02:17:29,959
Speaker 2: It was definitely South Sudan because everybody was walking around

2645
02:17:30,000 --> 02:17:31,000
Speaker 2: with machine guns.

2646
02:17:31,840 --> 02:17:36,600
Speaker 3: And then the student, well the person that brought me

2647
02:17:36,680 --> 02:17:40,960
Speaker 3: out there. The police and the National Guard are the

2648
02:17:41,120 --> 02:17:47,600
Speaker 3: two warring factions, so at any time, all you got

2649
02:17:47,720 --> 02:17:49,880
Speaker 3: to do is just say one little wrong thing about

2650
02:17:49,879 --> 02:17:54,480
Speaker 3: the tribe or some shit about the king. Because South

2651
02:17:54,600 --> 02:17:58,720
Speaker 3: Sudan has all the oil. North Sudan has all the reserves,

2652
02:17:58,840 --> 02:18:01,320
Speaker 3: so they constant fight over money and shit like that.

2653
02:18:01,600 --> 02:18:05,120
Speaker 3: But it definitely was South student because this is scary,

2654
02:18:05,360 --> 02:18:07,720
Speaker 3: so we get in town for the sad. Oh, let

2655
02:18:07,760 --> 02:18:09,520
Speaker 3: me shout out to God that brought me. This guy

2656
02:18:09,600 --> 02:18:14,039
Speaker 3: named Emmanuel Jaw he was a boys child soldier.

2657
02:18:15,440 --> 02:18:15,880
Speaker 2: At nine.

2658
02:18:15,920 --> 02:18:18,720
Speaker 3: When he was nine years old, the rebel army came

2659
02:18:18,800 --> 02:18:22,440
Speaker 3: into his village and killed all the adults and took

2660
02:18:22,640 --> 02:18:25,240
Speaker 3: all the hills and gave them guns to fight against

2661
02:18:25,320 --> 02:18:28,040
Speaker 3: the government, said nine years old him and is forty

2662
02:18:28,400 --> 02:18:32,760
Speaker 3: Hold up? They come into your village and kill all

2663
02:18:32,840 --> 02:18:38,840
Speaker 3: the parents guts And he's the most well smoking, well

2664
02:18:38,959 --> 02:18:40,640
Speaker 3: spoken person you had ever seen.

2665
02:18:40,920 --> 02:18:44,200
Speaker 2: Was a child killer who was killed at nine years

2666
02:18:44,200 --> 02:18:48,400
Speaker 2: old to arm to cut all that shit. So when

2667
02:18:48,440 --> 02:18:51,760
Speaker 2: he was nine years old, he was fighting, him and

2668
02:18:51,840 --> 02:18:55,480
Speaker 2: his forty friends and he was out in the wilderness fighting.

2669
02:18:55,600 --> 02:18:58,000
Speaker 2: So they got tired of killing their own people, so

2670
02:18:58,160 --> 02:19:00,320
Speaker 2: they said, we're gonna go a one and escape. Now

2671
02:19:00,360 --> 02:19:04,360
Speaker 2: the problem is when you escape, the soldiers you're running

2672
02:19:04,360 --> 02:19:06,480
Speaker 2: from are gonna kill you first on a site, and

2673
02:19:06,600 --> 02:19:09,400
Speaker 2: then the other soldiers from the government are gonna shoot

2674
02:19:09,400 --> 02:19:11,280
Speaker 2: you because even if you say I'm coming there, they

2675
02:19:11,320 --> 02:19:13,600
Speaker 2: think you got bombs or whatever, so they ain't trusting you.

2676
02:19:13,920 --> 02:19:16,680
Speaker 2: So what they would do was what they would do

2677
02:19:17,000 --> 02:19:20,320
Speaker 2: was when the people that they ate were from would

2678
02:19:20,320 --> 02:19:22,600
Speaker 2: go raid a village, the kids would go in there

2679
02:19:22,600 --> 02:19:24,360
Speaker 2: and eat the scraps. But it got to the point

2680
02:19:24,360 --> 02:19:28,480
Speaker 2: where the other soldiers wasn't leaving us. So lonstory short,

2681
02:19:28,800 --> 02:19:32,000
Speaker 2: his friends were dying a starvation. So it's just him

2682
02:19:32,040 --> 02:19:35,720
Speaker 2: and his boy, right, And imagine me and you and Norri.

2683
02:19:35,959 --> 02:19:38,040
Speaker 2: All our boys are dead, It's just me and you.

2684
02:19:38,200 --> 02:19:41,720
Speaker 3: Thirty eight or died at starvation, and I turned to

2685
02:19:41,800 --> 02:19:44,240
Speaker 3: you because I'm dying and I look at you and

2686
02:19:44,320 --> 02:19:48,680
Speaker 3: I'm your boy, and I say, Nori, if I die tonight,

2687
02:19:48,760 --> 02:19:53,280
Speaker 3: it's okay if you eat me. Imagine that. So Joll

2688
02:19:53,400 --> 02:19:59,040
Speaker 3: said his prayer to God wasn't delivering me this and that?

2689
02:19:59,240 --> 02:20:02,520
Speaker 3: This serious pread? God, God, what's the pros and cons

2690
02:20:02,560 --> 02:20:05,000
Speaker 3: of if I eat my friend? And what's the pros

2691
02:20:05,000 --> 02:20:07,080
Speaker 3: and cons if I don't eat my friend? So that's

2692
02:20:07,120 --> 02:20:08,480
Speaker 3: where he was at right then and there he can

2693
02:20:08,560 --> 02:20:13,879
Speaker 3: saved by the un They take him from. Didn't have to, Okay, alright, cool,

2694
02:20:14,400 --> 02:20:18,000
Speaker 3: heake him to not roby to the rehabilitation center. He's

2695
02:20:18,040 --> 02:20:22,040
Speaker 3: a wild kid that was illing, so they trying to

2696
02:20:22,240 --> 02:20:24,680
Speaker 3: educate him. He's a fucking beast. He said he was

2697
02:20:24,720 --> 02:20:27,000
Speaker 3: getting the beef for of his students. You ever see

2698
02:20:27,040 --> 02:20:30,440
Speaker 3: the horror movie Shits and said the students say something

2699
02:20:30,440 --> 02:20:33,040
Speaker 3: to him. He taking a pen and pointing it and

2700
02:20:33,200 --> 02:20:36,240
Speaker 3: I'm like, he's that kid, He's he's wild.

2701
02:20:36,720 --> 02:20:39,720
Speaker 2: So one of the counselors and it's the promoter that

2702
02:20:39,800 --> 02:20:40,440
Speaker 2: brought you od there.

2703
02:20:41,200 --> 02:20:44,680
Speaker 3: Yeah I did him, but he said, I'm gonna tell you, Yeah,

2704
02:20:44,680 --> 02:20:47,720
Speaker 3: he's been a big white track this out. One of

2705
02:20:47,800 --> 02:20:54,440
Speaker 3: the counselors is playing run dmc ughdy by Nature Public Enemy.

2706
02:20:55,160 --> 02:21:00,560
Speaker 2: So he hears it, what's the what's that? The counselor

2707
02:21:00,640 --> 02:21:04,080
Speaker 2: is like, oh, so you like this? What's that? What's that?

2708
02:21:04,160 --> 02:21:07,160
Speaker 3: He said that was the only time he felt something

2709
02:21:07,240 --> 02:21:08,039
Speaker 3: that was good to him.

2710
02:21:08,560 --> 02:21:09,280
Speaker 2: Oh you want to hit it?

2711
02:21:09,360 --> 02:21:13,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know imagine crazy, crazy African killer machine.

2712
02:21:14,280 --> 02:21:17,960
Speaker 2: Here's naughty native stuff. The councilors play, Okay, here's the deal,

2713
02:21:18,560 --> 02:21:21,400
Speaker 2: stick gild Man. You start going to school, this and

2714
02:21:21,480 --> 02:21:23,520
Speaker 2: that just to hit the tape.

2715
02:21:23,520 --> 02:21:25,760
Speaker 3: Okay, So he hit the tape, goes to school, show

2716
02:21:25,840 --> 02:21:28,960
Speaker 3: me something, becomes a straight at student, makes it to

2717
02:21:29,040 --> 02:21:33,280
Speaker 3: the university, goes into the university majors in communications and music,

2718
02:21:33,560 --> 02:21:37,959
Speaker 3: starts to becoming a MC for his from Sudan, who

2719
02:21:38,040 --> 02:21:41,320
Speaker 3: gets to open for Nelson Mandela, this and that, whatever,

2720
02:21:41,480 --> 02:21:42,080
Speaker 3: whatever whatever.

2721
02:21:42,720 --> 02:21:45,800
Speaker 2: So he does because of hip hop. He said it

2722
02:21:45,879 --> 02:21:46,080
Speaker 2: was the.

2723
02:21:46,240 --> 02:21:49,640
Speaker 3: Only thing that made him feel like he was working.

2724
02:21:49,720 --> 02:21:53,080
Speaker 3: He correlates. So then he does all of that. He

2725
02:21:53,160 --> 02:21:55,760
Speaker 3: does all of this great stuff for his country. They

2726
02:21:55,879 --> 02:21:57,920
Speaker 3: bring him to New York City to get honored by

2727
02:21:58,000 --> 02:22:02,720
Speaker 3: the hard Rock This is before hard Rock Ain's ownership

2728
02:22:02,879 --> 02:22:04,879
Speaker 3: because the hard rockers and the big.

2729
02:22:06,600 --> 02:22:09,280
Speaker 2: Philanthropy stuff like that. So they bring them in and

2730
02:22:09,360 --> 02:22:11,360
Speaker 2: one of the ladies from the Harrrock movie there was like, DMC,

2731
02:22:11,680 --> 02:22:13,160
Speaker 2: we have this kid, tells me a story.

2732
02:22:13,520 --> 02:22:15,640
Speaker 3: Come tomorrow. We want to surprise him with you cool.

2733
02:22:15,760 --> 02:22:18,480
Speaker 2: So I come to the luncheon and it's a bunch

2734
02:22:18,560 --> 02:22:21,280
Speaker 2: of people in there, like he does some incredible ship.

2735
02:22:21,400 --> 02:22:23,160
Speaker 2: So they said just go sit at the end of

2736
02:22:23,200 --> 02:22:25,240
Speaker 2: the table. Sitting at the end of the table and

2737
02:22:25,320 --> 02:22:27,520
Speaker 2: he's speaking. He's meeting all these people and sending nobody

2738
02:22:27,560 --> 02:22:30,240
Speaker 2: announces me, and then he looks and he sees me

2739
02:22:31,240 --> 02:22:34,440
Speaker 2: just so and he comes over to me and he

2740
02:22:34,640 --> 02:22:37,680
Speaker 2: just cries on me and he's like, yo, run DMC

2741
02:22:38,040 --> 02:22:40,960
Speaker 2: know that my nature hip hop saying man, he just

2742
02:22:41,040 --> 02:22:43,320
Speaker 2: tells me the story, and I'm like, I'm like blowing away.

2743
02:22:43,720 --> 02:22:46,840
Speaker 2: So then he goes, will you come to my country?

2744
02:22:48,160 --> 02:22:50,360
Speaker 2: And this is what I'm answering your question now, So

2745
02:22:50,480 --> 02:22:55,880
Speaker 2: I'm thinking yeah. I answered yeah immediately, but I'm thinking,

2746
02:22:56,120 --> 02:23:01,120
Speaker 2: j you know what I'm saying. So we fly out

2747
02:23:01,200 --> 02:23:04,720
Speaker 2: to South student we say we run engine no, no, no,

2748
02:23:05,040 --> 02:23:09,640
Speaker 2: just me, my DJ Eric and my security and well

2749
02:23:09,680 --> 02:23:13,600
Speaker 2: it's funny this is not. When they showed me the

2750
02:23:13,680 --> 02:23:17,480
Speaker 2: brochure of where we're staying at, it's like, oh, ship,

2751
02:23:17,560 --> 02:23:22,160
Speaker 2: a pool, air conditioning building. But we get there, it's

2752
02:23:22,280 --> 02:23:27,920
Speaker 2: just huts. No toilet ball, no toilet ball, no toilet

2753
02:23:29,600 --> 02:23:30,000
Speaker 2: Hold up.

2754
02:23:31,040 --> 02:23:34,360
Speaker 3: The cut us is fucking bugs.

2755
02:23:35,520 --> 02:23:39,760
Speaker 2: Everywhere, to the point where it's so many bugs and

2756
02:23:39,800 --> 02:23:42,400
Speaker 2: they so big, you just get it's a waste of

2757
02:23:42,520 --> 02:23:42,840
Speaker 2: time and.

2758
02:23:44,320 --> 02:23:50,920
Speaker 3: Fu show time like to that point. So that was

2759
02:23:51,000 --> 02:23:53,800
Speaker 3: my wildest place off Cudent. But the beauty of it

2760
02:23:54,120 --> 02:23:56,640
Speaker 3: is that they know our hip hop right and they

2761
02:23:56,760 --> 02:23:59,840
Speaker 3: value it. So we go to sound check and if

2762
02:23:59,879 --> 02:24:02,480
Speaker 3: you look him up right now, he's the vice president

2763
02:24:03,280 --> 02:24:04,199
Speaker 3: of Sudan.

2764
02:24:05,840 --> 02:24:10,360
Speaker 2: Yeah he wears cowboy hat and cowboy boots. So we

2765
02:24:10,560 --> 02:24:12,240
Speaker 2: see we ain't we ain't seen none of this the

2766
02:24:12,280 --> 02:24:14,520
Speaker 2: whole time. All of a sudden, we look up. We

2767
02:24:14,720 --> 02:24:19,720
Speaker 2: see range rovers, we see escalades, we see Mercedes Bens

2768
02:24:19,760 --> 02:24:23,000
Speaker 2: and we see BMW And it looked like something out

2769
02:24:23,040 --> 02:24:26,400
Speaker 2: of a Tom Cruise Mission Impossible movie. They moving like that.

2770
02:24:27,320 --> 02:24:29,680
Speaker 2: We just see this ent roge of cars coming up

2771
02:24:29,720 --> 02:24:32,320
Speaker 2: to the place of the ship right pulls up to

2772
02:24:32,520 --> 02:24:34,279
Speaker 2: like the ship in the movies.

2773
02:24:34,400 --> 02:24:38,760
Speaker 3: Those stunt drivers, the motherfuckers exist, they pull up, security

2774
02:24:38,800 --> 02:24:40,960
Speaker 3: gets out right, so the Vice President of South Sudan

2775
02:24:41,080 --> 02:24:43,600
Speaker 3: gets out and we in the sound check and the

2776
02:24:43,760 --> 02:24:46,959
Speaker 3: vice president walks in there and this shit is scary man,

2777
02:24:47,080 --> 02:24:49,840
Speaker 3: motherfuckers with machine huns this and there, and you know,

2778
02:24:49,959 --> 02:24:51,279
Speaker 3: the vice president, he's different.

2779
02:24:51,840 --> 02:24:55,720
Speaker 2: Where's the rapper? Where's I'm come to see the like

2780
02:24:55,840 --> 02:25:01,600
Speaker 2: with that idiot, I mean ship? Where's the high My

2781
02:25:01,840 --> 02:25:05,039
Speaker 2: DJ his ful like, he's right here. So I come.

2782
02:25:05,720 --> 02:25:08,880
Speaker 2: The guy comes to me and he's literally taking me

2783
02:25:09,000 --> 02:25:11,440
Speaker 2: like this. He comes, I want to see the all

2784
02:25:11,840 --> 02:25:24,040
Speaker 2: this the wrapper rapp and he's fuck yo, He's like,

2785
02:25:24,320 --> 02:25:27,080
Speaker 2: start right, He's shaking me the wrappers and like that.

2786
02:25:27,760 --> 02:25:29,720
Speaker 2: So then you I want to see your show. And

2787
02:25:29,800 --> 02:25:33,280
Speaker 2: then he sits down in the showtime and he's sitting there.

2788
02:25:33,680 --> 02:25:36,800
Speaker 2: The thing what's funny about this story is that he's

2789
02:25:37,320 --> 02:25:41,440
Speaker 2: fucking the you know, the one like the mean ship

2790
02:25:41,640 --> 02:25:44,080
Speaker 2: like war lord. I want to see your show and

2791
02:25:44,200 --> 02:25:48,200
Speaker 2: he said, and he's sitting there. So I'm thinking, yo,

2792
02:25:48,240 --> 02:25:53,800
Speaker 2: if I ain't dope, it's my right, you know. But

2793
02:25:53,959 --> 02:25:54,640
Speaker 2: he's sitting there.

2794
02:25:54,720 --> 02:25:58,640
Speaker 3: Everybody's around him and all the people it's about or

2795
02:25:58,760 --> 02:26:00,400
Speaker 3: what do you say about two andre and fift people.

2796
02:26:01,000 --> 02:26:05,199
Speaker 2: They all in the back like his soldiers. The regular okay,

2797
02:26:05,240 --> 02:26:07,640
Speaker 2: the regular people, okay, crowd. You know, first one I

2798
02:26:07,760 --> 02:26:09,640
Speaker 2: was in like this, they like, oh, it's damnsey. But

2799
02:26:09,720 --> 02:26:13,200
Speaker 2: when he came, oh oh, when he came, okay, it's

2800
02:26:13,400 --> 02:26:16,480
Speaker 2: kind of like some scary dictator shape, like I'm thank

2801
02:26:16,520 --> 02:26:18,800
Speaker 2: you damn. If I ain't dope, this is gonna be crazy.

2802
02:26:19,400 --> 02:26:22,600
Speaker 2: So then my DJ Charlie Chan, he just go, yo,

2803
02:26:22,680 --> 02:26:24,920
Speaker 2: d just do what the fuck you do? So I said,

2804
02:26:25,040 --> 02:26:32,240
Speaker 2: all right, you know he's thinking, you know, fift week,

2805
02:26:32,560 --> 02:26:35,039
Speaker 2: So yo, y'all come up to the front. We pull

2806
02:26:35,120 --> 02:26:38,640
Speaker 2: the people up the front. We performed like forty five minutes.

2807
02:26:39,000 --> 02:26:43,560
Speaker 2: We had those aft your hands and the records Breakdow

2808
02:26:43,680 --> 02:26:47,600
Speaker 2: knew the recket so but that was my craziest experience ever.

2809
02:26:48,080 --> 02:26:51,240
Speaker 3: But you know, Russia's cool. We went into Moscow. They know,

2810
02:26:52,040 --> 02:26:54,840
Speaker 3: they fucking know mob deep there, you know what I'm saying.

2811
02:26:54,879 --> 02:26:57,840
Speaker 3: They know they know underground and ship like that. But

2812
02:26:58,080 --> 02:27:01,080
Speaker 3: South Sudan, what was beautiful is they knew Park, they

2813
02:27:01,160 --> 02:27:02,279
Speaker 3: knew Big, they knew.

2814
02:27:02,080 --> 02:27:05,040
Speaker 2: Our hip hop. But it was the scariest trip of

2815
02:27:05,080 --> 02:27:07,320
Speaker 2: my life. Let me ask you, because You mentioned Poking

2816
02:27:07,400 --> 02:27:10,320
Speaker 2: Big a couple of times, right, and you said that

2817
02:27:10,400 --> 02:27:13,320
Speaker 2: you was on tour with Parc and Big together. No not,

2818
02:27:14,840 --> 02:27:18,000
Speaker 2: you opened up separate, separate, right, We opened up for them.

2819
02:27:18,040 --> 02:27:21,760
Speaker 2: So two pac question, you saw the relationship that they

2820
02:27:21,800 --> 02:27:25,519
Speaker 2: were cool? No? No, I never seen them together. They

2821
02:27:25,600 --> 02:27:28,280
Speaker 2: opened up for pucking Big at two times. This was

2822
02:27:28,640 --> 02:27:29,400
Speaker 2: after they split.

2823
02:27:29,760 --> 02:27:31,760
Speaker 3: When I first met Park. What was crazy about?

2824
02:27:31,840 --> 02:27:32,920
Speaker 2: What park? We played?

2825
02:27:34,560 --> 02:27:36,480
Speaker 3: What's the biggest mall in the world, I think was

2826
02:27:36,520 --> 02:27:41,040
Speaker 3: Minnesota or something like that, all of America. Yeah, yeah,

2827
02:27:41,080 --> 02:27:43,080
Speaker 3: so we was we was, we was doing the show.

2828
02:27:43,160 --> 02:27:45,280
Speaker 3: They was open for Park and Yo, let's go to

2829
02:27:45,360 --> 02:27:46,800
Speaker 3: the mall. You know, that's what you do when you

2830
02:27:46,840 --> 02:27:48,880
Speaker 3: go to So we go to the mall and it

2831
02:27:49,040 --> 02:27:51,760
Speaker 3: was just crazy about I saw this happened when we

2832
02:27:51,920 --> 02:27:54,920
Speaker 3: walked in the mall. I don't know if they got

2833
02:27:54,920 --> 02:27:58,920
Speaker 3: a single Park out, but the security, the police officer

2834
02:27:59,400 --> 02:28:02,440
Speaker 3: just walked over there and said, you take your hat

2835
02:28:02,520 --> 02:28:05,360
Speaker 3: off like were walking in the mall.

2836
02:28:05,879 --> 02:28:07,680
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Jay got his hand, but

2837
02:28:07,800 --> 02:28:11,320
Speaker 2: the police off and then poked you like what the fuck? Seman?

2838
02:28:11,440 --> 02:28:13,720
Speaker 2: This is what I'm talking yo, Pop calm now, and

2839
02:28:13,800 --> 02:28:15,840
Speaker 2: this is that boom boom boom boom boom, whatever what

2840
02:28:15,920 --> 02:28:17,800
Speaker 2: I mean. Jay's like, yo, man, how you gonna tell

2841
02:28:17,840 --> 02:28:19,959
Speaker 2: Park to You ain't tell me to take my minds off.

2842
02:28:20,360 --> 02:28:24,720
Speaker 2: I don't know if it was a pop thing police No,

2843
02:28:25,320 --> 02:28:29,800
Speaker 2: probably yeah, yeah, yeah that's probably why. Yeah, that's probably why.

2844
02:28:29,840 --> 02:28:32,080
Speaker 2: But I saw that. But overall, Park was brilliant.

2845
02:28:32,120 --> 02:28:34,320
Speaker 3: He was cool, he was funny, and all he could

2846
02:28:34,400 --> 02:28:36,480
Speaker 3: fucking talk about was the fuck he I think he

2847
02:28:36,560 --> 02:28:38,920
Speaker 3: even made a whole record about it. His whole ship

2848
02:28:39,040 --> 02:28:41,520
Speaker 3: was trying to convince me that I'm legit, Like if

2849
02:28:41,600 --> 02:28:43,680
Speaker 3: you like you know what I'm saying, which is beautiful,

2850
02:28:43,760 --> 02:28:45,920
Speaker 3: Which is beautiful. But yeah, we hung went Park, We

2851
02:28:46,000 --> 02:28:49,120
Speaker 3: hung went Big. Big was just like Big was like

2852
02:28:49,200 --> 02:28:50,560
Speaker 3: who could I describe Big? Right?

2853
02:28:51,120 --> 02:28:53,960
Speaker 2: Big was just like fucking he was just lovable, right,

2854
02:28:54,560 --> 02:28:55,360
Speaker 2: and I'm saying he was.

2855
02:28:55,520 --> 02:28:58,520
Speaker 3: He was just a funny, lovable like him and Jay

2856
02:28:58,600 --> 02:29:01,840
Speaker 3: really got along because you know, Jay flying Jason moved

2857
02:29:01,840 --> 02:29:03,640
Speaker 3: a lot of weed too, and sh yeah exactly.

2858
02:29:04,320 --> 02:29:06,920
Speaker 2: Yeah they have blunts. Yeah you know, so where was

2859
02:29:06,959 --> 02:29:08,960
Speaker 2: you at when you kind of like see you know,

2860
02:29:09,120 --> 02:29:11,600
Speaker 2: they're they're they're like this, this is like this is

2861
02:29:11,680 --> 02:29:13,760
Speaker 2: like I want to say, there's always been beef and

2862
02:29:13,840 --> 02:29:16,360
Speaker 2: hip hop because like there's always been like the battles

2863
02:29:16,400 --> 02:29:18,720
Speaker 2: and stuff like that, and these battles kind of like

2864
02:29:18,840 --> 02:29:24,760
Speaker 2: sometimes it into something. Of course, this was the first,

2865
02:29:24,879 --> 02:29:28,040
Speaker 2: like this was the first difference was like, how did

2866
02:29:28,080 --> 02:29:29,440
Speaker 2: you feel like, you know what I mean, you being

2867
02:29:29,480 --> 02:29:31,400
Speaker 2: one of the architects of hip hop and these people

2868
02:29:31,560 --> 02:29:35,400
Speaker 2: taking it this far? And well, I kind of understood it,

2869
02:29:35,440 --> 02:29:38,840
Speaker 2: but I don't think people, I don't think the media,

2870
02:29:39,120 --> 02:29:41,720
Speaker 2: and I don't think people like us. We didn't get

2871
02:29:41,800 --> 02:29:44,960
Speaker 2: vocal enough because what was happening in the beginning of it,

2872
02:29:45,160 --> 02:29:49,520
Speaker 2: it was almost like the two rival the two rival

2873
02:29:49,920 --> 02:29:53,640
Speaker 2: high school teams. The players settled a beef on the field.

2874
02:29:54,520 --> 02:29:56,320
Speaker 2: But if I see you fuck you, this and that,

2875
02:29:56,480 --> 02:29:59,720
Speaker 2: this and that. So there was no there was no

2876
02:30:00,600 --> 02:30:05,000
Speaker 2: this did not this, There was no determined there was

2877
02:30:05,080 --> 02:30:10,160
Speaker 2: no describing that this should just stay on record. But

2878
02:30:10,280 --> 02:30:13,080
Speaker 2: then it was it was different. It was more deeper

2879
02:30:13,240 --> 02:30:18,280
Speaker 2: because Pop felt something personally was done to him. But

2880
02:30:18,600 --> 02:30:23,200
Speaker 2: but the East coast, West coast ward, we never seen it. Right,

2881
02:30:23,320 --> 02:30:25,640
Speaker 2: we was going over there, but see it's a little

2882
02:30:25,720 --> 02:30:28,360
Speaker 2: different LUs the same thing. We just interviewed him and

2883
02:30:28,440 --> 02:30:30,480
Speaker 2: he said he was never affected by the East Coast West.

2884
02:30:31,879 --> 02:30:36,840
Speaker 3: He was another col sug Knight was gonna buy us.

2885
02:30:42,320 --> 02:30:45,320
Speaker 3: Sug Knight was gonna put run DMC on death row

2886
02:30:45,440 --> 02:30:49,080
Speaker 3: records proper they were starting.

2887
02:30:49,840 --> 02:30:52,879
Speaker 2: He was going not definitely, No, he's gonna put us

2888
02:30:52,920 --> 02:30:55,760
Speaker 2: on death row. We had a meeting with him at

2889
02:30:56,200 --> 02:31:03,200
Speaker 2: and Beverly Hill. We had a big the Beverly Hill. James. No,

2890
02:31:05,920 --> 02:31:06,480
Speaker 2: I don't think we.

2891
02:31:06,480 --> 02:31:07,480
Speaker 3: Would have had to neither.

2892
02:31:07,959 --> 02:31:10,240
Speaker 2: We had meeting with Sure. This was like when death

2893
02:31:10,280 --> 02:31:12,320
Speaker 2: Row was right at their height.

2894
02:31:12,360 --> 02:31:14,600
Speaker 3: Before, right before U the downfall of it. I do

2895
02:31:14,720 --> 02:31:16,880
Speaker 3: remember these rooms, you know, I'm saying. We sat there

2896
02:31:16,920 --> 02:31:20,160
Speaker 3: with him and he said, buy you off that you're

2897
02:31:20,280 --> 02:31:22,279
Speaker 3: running them. See, I mean a lot to this culture.

2898
02:31:22,320 --> 02:31:23,959
Speaker 3: And they said, you know you got to say something

2899
02:31:23,959 --> 02:31:24,440
Speaker 3: about sugar.

2900
02:31:24,640 --> 02:31:25,119
Speaker 2: Sugar aright.

2901
02:31:25,600 --> 02:31:29,480
Speaker 3: He had right intention because every time I see him,

2902
02:31:29,680 --> 02:31:31,560
Speaker 3: me ma Orka, he used to just show up and

2903
02:31:31,680 --> 02:31:36,320
Speaker 3: come and sit down and say, man, you know it

2904
02:31:36,400 --> 02:31:37,119
Speaker 3: used to come here.

2905
02:31:37,320 --> 02:31:38,440
Speaker 2: Huh No.

2906
02:31:38,560 --> 02:31:40,880
Speaker 3: No, this was in a sushi restaurant, or it was

2907
02:31:40,959 --> 02:31:43,640
Speaker 3: at the Mandrion Club or whatever. And he said, you know,

2908
02:31:43,760 --> 02:31:45,880
Speaker 3: we was just amazed and he said, Shug said this.

2909
02:31:46,240 --> 02:31:48,520
Speaker 3: We were just so amazed that when your cast came

2910
02:31:48,640 --> 02:31:50,720
Speaker 3: here from New York and he said this, we were

2911
02:31:50,840 --> 02:31:54,240
Speaker 3: just so amazed to see how you're stuck together because

2912
02:31:54,240 --> 02:31:56,920
Speaker 3: remember running m CLL this and we moved together.

2913
02:31:57,120 --> 02:32:00,840
Speaker 2: It was just something about I don't know boy, yeah,

2914
02:32:01,440 --> 02:32:03,360
Speaker 2: but you know, and he talked about that. But he

2915
02:32:03,400 --> 02:32:07,119
Speaker 2: said he was gonna buyas bring us on to death

2916
02:32:07,280 --> 02:32:09,760
Speaker 2: Row because he says, death Row we at the top

2917
02:32:09,879 --> 02:32:12,039
Speaker 2: right now, and you should be with the top row,

2918
02:32:12,160 --> 02:32:15,039
Speaker 2: you know, that whole ship. And then somebody else had

2919
02:32:15,120 --> 02:32:18,440
Speaker 2: told me now that motherfucker was doing that ship so

2920
02:32:18,640 --> 02:32:21,640
Speaker 2: he can fucking take the kings from the East and

2921
02:32:21,840 --> 02:32:23,760
Speaker 2: throw it in their face. Yeah, I don't even got

2922
02:32:23,800 --> 02:32:26,000
Speaker 2: your run DMCs. Now, I didn't think about it like that.

2923
02:32:26,280 --> 02:32:28,920
Speaker 4: I don't you know what I'm saying, because he did

2924
02:32:28,959 --> 02:32:30,959
Speaker 4: that with with Hammer too, where he brought Hammer.

2925
02:32:31,000 --> 02:32:33,360
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, Hammer's on the West. But I think

2926
02:32:33,400 --> 02:32:34,960
Speaker 3: he genuinely appreciated it.

2927
02:32:35,080 --> 02:32:38,920
Speaker 2: No, he did. The two three times that I sat

2928
02:32:39,000 --> 02:32:42,040
Speaker 2: with Shook personally with no rud Ro, I didn't see

2929
02:32:42,080 --> 02:32:42,360
Speaker 2: all of that.

2930
02:32:43,240 --> 02:32:48,960
Speaker 3: He generally like, was they they they wanted to have

2931
02:32:49,240 --> 02:32:51,680
Speaker 3: the thing I talked about that we were doing with

2932
02:32:51,800 --> 02:32:54,840
Speaker 3: hip hop outside of the business. So I think Shug

2933
02:32:54,959 --> 02:32:59,279
Speaker 3: wanted to have run DMC as the the holy grail.

2934
02:33:00,040 --> 02:33:02,640
Speaker 4: It's like the ultimate trophy, right if you're a hip

2935
02:33:02,680 --> 02:33:05,240
Speaker 4: hop head and you have power money, what's.

2936
02:33:05,120 --> 02:33:08,920
Speaker 2: The un see? And I gave a lot of money.

2937
02:33:09,120 --> 02:33:11,800
Speaker 2: And I remember the night Pop died, we was the

2938
02:33:12,240 --> 02:33:16,440
Speaker 2: what was the club that they had in Vegas? Vegas?

2939
02:33:17,440 --> 02:33:23,040
Speaker 2: Seven Biggies six Yeah, yeah, yeah like that.

2940
02:33:23,480 --> 02:33:27,240
Speaker 3: So we was hired by them to perform at the

2941
02:33:27,360 --> 02:33:29,840
Speaker 3: after party m for the Tyson Fight.

2942
02:33:30,000 --> 02:33:30,680
Speaker 2: For the Tyson Fight.

2943
02:33:30,760 --> 02:33:33,959
Speaker 3: Wow, bro, this is this is one. This is when

2944
02:33:34,040 --> 02:33:37,039
Speaker 3: the Luxe was. I got married with the Luxey. Yeah,

2945
02:33:37,080 --> 02:33:39,920
Speaker 3: this one was new like it was flash it so

2946
02:33:40,000 --> 02:33:43,080
Speaker 3: I'll never forget. Brought us there, paid for everything we

2947
02:33:43,200 --> 02:33:44,400
Speaker 3: used to hire in entertainment.

2948
02:33:44,520 --> 02:33:46,520
Speaker 2: So y'all was there that night in Vegas. Let me

2949
02:33:46,600 --> 02:33:50,200
Speaker 2: tell you what holy ship. So we get a call

2950
02:33:50,600 --> 02:33:55,760
Speaker 2: against the call. It shook, Yo. This is a funny jay. Sorry, Yo,

2951
02:33:55,840 --> 02:33:57,920
Speaker 2: I'm coming to me and Pop coming and get y'all

2952
02:33:59,000 --> 02:34:02,240
Speaker 2: you're gonna ride to the fight with us, because remember

2953
02:34:02,280 --> 02:34:03,840
Speaker 2: who was in the in the in the in the

2954
02:34:04,120 --> 02:34:06,960
Speaker 2: the seven fifteen with them. Nobody was in the back seat.

2955
02:34:07,680 --> 02:34:09,480
Speaker 2: Me running Ja was supposed to be in that back seat.

2956
02:34:09,600 --> 02:34:13,680
Speaker 3: Whoa, he calls, calls a look, say yo, I'm coming

2957
02:34:13,800 --> 02:34:16,720
Speaker 3: to get y'all park. We want you to ride to

2958
02:34:16,840 --> 02:34:21,360
Speaker 3: the fight with us. Y'all going ahead without us? Why,

2959
02:34:21,480 --> 02:34:27,199
Speaker 3: what's the problem Jay's getting dressed? What are you talking about?

2960
02:34:28,040 --> 02:34:31,680
Speaker 3: Just show Dn standing there. When Jay would get dressed,

2961
02:34:32,040 --> 02:34:36,280
Speaker 3: Jay would have all his clothes out there. It's worse

2962
02:34:36,360 --> 02:34:39,360
Speaker 3: than your wife or girl. Again, how does this look?

2963
02:34:39,440 --> 02:34:40,800
Speaker 3: Just in that for like three hours.

2964
02:34:41,840 --> 02:34:44,560
Speaker 2: The reason why we didn't ride to the fight with

2965
02:34:44,720 --> 02:34:46,520
Speaker 2: Pocket because Jay was getting dressed.

2966
02:34:46,760 --> 02:34:54,560
Speaker 8: Jay would spend hours. He's seriously, you'll be telling us

2967
02:34:54,760 --> 02:34:56,800
Speaker 8: that's coolk hold and you would like it would be

2968
02:34:56,840 --> 02:34:58,080
Speaker 8: a fashion show.

2969
02:34:59,040 --> 02:35:03,920
Speaker 2: That reget my lion. Day's getting dressed. This case is

2970
02:35:03,959 --> 02:35:08,480
Speaker 2: a blessing, right, so huge blessing. So we say we

2971
02:35:08,640 --> 02:35:10,680
Speaker 2: meet at the after part. We get to the after party.

2972
02:35:11,360 --> 02:35:16,119
Speaker 2: Hammer's there, the whole crew, everybody's there, melm and everybody's there,

2973
02:35:16,160 --> 02:35:18,640
Speaker 2: this and that. So yeah, yeah, did he have one

2974
02:35:18,680 --> 02:35:20,320
Speaker 2: little pants? No, he didn't have a pan.

2975
02:35:22,080 --> 02:35:27,400
Speaker 3: This was the suit rich tuxedo, joins Hammer. So we

2976
02:35:27,560 --> 02:35:30,080
Speaker 3: in the club waiting for the fight to end. All

2977
02:35:30,120 --> 02:35:32,520
Speaker 3: of a sudden, one dude comes in. It's about maybe

2978
02:35:32,560 --> 02:35:36,160
Speaker 3: one hundred people in there. They all leave, empty cup

2979
02:35:36,280 --> 02:35:38,920
Speaker 3: music all. A guy comes in with a briefcase.

2980
02:35:39,160 --> 02:35:42,320
Speaker 2: To me running Jay. Everybody leaves. God comes with the briefcase.

2981
02:35:42,760 --> 02:35:46,520
Speaker 2: Put the briefcase, opens it up. It's all casts two

2982
02:35:46,800 --> 02:35:49,760
Speaker 2: grand cash. Yeah, y'all getting paid to nine No show,

2983
02:35:49,840 --> 02:35:54,119
Speaker 2: go home. Wow, we got to pay like we didn't

2984
02:35:54,120 --> 02:35:56,240
Speaker 2: know what's going on. So next morning I had an

2985
02:35:56,240 --> 02:35:59,560
Speaker 2: afternoon flight. I'm in the gym on a on a treadmill.

2986
02:36:00,080 --> 02:36:04,920
Speaker 2: And then CNN last night in Vegas, Tupacus show. Oh Ship,

2987
02:36:05,040 --> 02:36:06,400
Speaker 2: that's why it happened.

2988
02:36:06,840 --> 02:36:08,760
Speaker 3: So I didn't find out Pa got shot till the

2989
02:36:08,840 --> 02:36:11,200
Speaker 3: next morning, and I find out that's why, y'all.

2990
02:36:11,280 --> 02:36:13,080
Speaker 2: I'm talking about we in the club like this, honey,

2991
02:36:13,120 --> 02:36:15,560
Speaker 2: my phone. One dude comes in, the whole.

2992
02:36:17,400 --> 02:36:19,960
Speaker 3: Guy comes in like Ship out of the movies. Briefcake

2993
02:36:20,080 --> 02:36:22,720
Speaker 3: paid us in cash, y'all go home, no show tonight.

2994
02:36:22,959 --> 02:36:26,440
Speaker 3: I didn't find out till the next morning night Paca show.

2995
02:36:27,160 --> 02:36:30,320
Speaker 3: But the reason why you could ask Eric, we coming

2996
02:36:30,360 --> 02:36:32,080
Speaker 3: to get y'all and.

2997
02:36:32,160 --> 02:36:34,520
Speaker 2: We I'm like, oh shit, I'm begging with pocket Shug.

2998
02:36:34,640 --> 02:36:39,040
Speaker 2: No you're not why Eric, Because he's getting dressed and

2999
02:36:39,160 --> 02:36:41,920
Speaker 2: he was at the Luxe. Aw as well, because that

3000
02:36:42,080 --> 02:36:44,640
Speaker 2: picture with Pocket and Shug is in front of the Luxe.

3001
02:36:44,720 --> 02:36:46,080
Speaker 3: I said, one in the car.

3002
02:36:46,440 --> 02:36:48,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's in front of the luxew That's what I

3003
02:36:48,160 --> 02:36:50,840
Speaker 2: said tonight. Yeah, they left and we had to wait

3004
02:36:50,920 --> 02:36:54,040
Speaker 2: for Jay to get dressed. Yeah, that's my favorite hotel. Yeah,

3005
02:36:54,080 --> 02:36:57,480
Speaker 2: hell yeah, I love Yeah, came out there exactly we did.

3006
02:37:00,280 --> 02:37:00,920
Speaker 2: That's crazy.

3007
02:37:01,520 --> 02:37:03,440
Speaker 3: I would have I would have never put you guys

3008
02:37:03,560 --> 02:37:05,000
Speaker 3: in that scenario.

3009
02:37:05,480 --> 02:37:08,119
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have never said that. I would have never.

3010
02:37:08,720 --> 02:37:10,200
Speaker 2: But you know it's like, yo, who were going to

3011
02:37:10,280 --> 02:37:14,360
Speaker 2: get to put run DMC alright, It's like, oh ship right,

3012
02:37:15,360 --> 02:37:19,440
Speaker 2: so that's honorable. It's like but you know, I say,

3013
02:37:19,480 --> 02:37:21,760
Speaker 2: they could have win, got pop, could have did the afterpart.

3014
02:37:22,280 --> 02:37:27,080
Speaker 2: They wanted to death Row wanted us to so they

3015
02:37:27,240 --> 02:37:32,840
Speaker 2: can sit there as the audience. That's flysh what man wild?

3016
02:37:34,000 --> 02:37:35,720
Speaker 3: Do you want to go back to the Dominican thing?

3017
02:37:36,040 --> 02:37:40,080
Speaker 2: Oh? All right? So what did I hear that you

3018
02:37:40,240 --> 02:37:44,440
Speaker 2: was Dominican? Where's this our MTV or something? Yeah?

3019
02:37:44,480 --> 02:37:47,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I did a special my adoption journey. Okay,

3020
02:37:48,040 --> 02:37:50,879
Speaker 3: when Down with the King came out right, Uh, put

3021
02:37:50,959 --> 02:37:53,480
Speaker 3: us back on the road, back on the charge video

3022
02:37:53,560 --> 02:37:55,280
Speaker 3: on it. The very next day after the video, I

3023
02:37:55,360 --> 02:37:57,520
Speaker 3: woke up and I wanted to kill myself.

3024
02:37:57,879 --> 02:38:01,120
Speaker 2: I don't know why. I don't know. I just woke up.

3025
02:38:01,640 --> 02:38:03,480
Speaker 3: I said, I don't want to live no more. Wow,

3026
02:38:03,920 --> 02:38:06,360
Speaker 3: God bless, And it was just void in me and

3027
02:38:06,440 --> 02:38:08,120
Speaker 3: I ain't know what it was. And I said to

3028
02:38:08,200 --> 02:38:10,160
Speaker 3: why am I for the fuck? And I sat and

3029
02:38:10,240 --> 02:38:12,480
Speaker 3: I was like, yo, you back at where you was

3030
02:38:12,959 --> 02:38:16,760
Speaker 3: this and that that's not enough. Something's missing. It was

3031
02:38:16,840 --> 02:38:19,200
Speaker 3: just something missing, and I was like, okay, let me

3032
02:38:19,280 --> 02:38:22,120
Speaker 3: look at my life. John McDaniels for Hollis Queens, New

3033
02:38:22,200 --> 02:38:26,560
Speaker 3: York Banners, my mother Bifer's, my father office, my brother runs,

3034
02:38:26,640 --> 02:38:28,240
Speaker 3: my pal, Jay's, my DJ.

3035
02:38:28,720 --> 02:38:29,520
Speaker 2: This hip hop thing.

3036
02:38:29,600 --> 02:38:31,560
Speaker 3: I went first to go go first of all, platic first,

3037
02:38:31,560 --> 02:38:33,520
Speaker 3: and the covered room stone first, went to sneaker deals

3038
02:38:33,560 --> 02:38:35,280
Speaker 3: this and now I'm back with you, said why am

3039
02:38:35,320 --> 02:38:37,280
Speaker 3: I fucking feeling like this? And I didn't know what

3040
02:38:37,520 --> 02:38:40,640
Speaker 3: the fuck that shit was and feeling just stuck with me,

3041
02:38:40,840 --> 02:38:42,520
Speaker 3: just stuck with me, stuck with me, suck with me,

3042
02:38:42,520 --> 02:38:46,760
Speaker 3: and I'm living with it, functioning. And what was crazy

3043
02:38:46,879 --> 02:38:49,760
Speaker 3: at this time was in nineteen ninety.

3044
02:38:50,320 --> 02:38:54,120
Speaker 2: I got diagnosed with a cute pancreatitis because I was

3045
02:38:54,240 --> 02:38:57,320
Speaker 2: drinking a case of forties a day, and I want

3046
02:38:57,360 --> 02:39:01,480
Speaker 2: to tease a case, a case six or twelve forty.

3047
02:39:02,280 --> 02:39:04,760
Speaker 3: I put refrigerator in the back of my truck so

3048
02:39:04,800 --> 02:39:06,680
Speaker 3: I didn't have to stop at the grocery sevice.

3049
02:39:07,879 --> 02:39:12,200
Speaker 2: And this is OEO say not fake all right? Cool?

3050
02:39:12,520 --> 02:39:15,520
Speaker 3: I told you earlier I hate fake shit. That's when

3051
02:39:15,560 --> 02:39:16,520
Speaker 3: I shot so human.

3052
02:39:16,680 --> 02:39:21,000
Speaker 2: That's fake shit. You don't even you don't even take

3053
02:39:21,080 --> 02:39:24,320
Speaker 2: that conversation about more liquor. But it's gotta be old

3054
02:39:25,080 --> 02:39:28,360
Speaker 2: old gold more liquor too, or yes, old English eight hundred.

3055
02:39:28,600 --> 02:39:33,039
Speaker 2: The VC boys brass Monkey is because we wrote slow

3056
02:39:33,120 --> 02:39:35,520
Speaker 2: and low with them, poor Revere slow.

3057
02:39:35,560 --> 02:39:37,760
Speaker 3: We wrote slow and load for them. We wrote poor

3058
02:39:37,840 --> 02:39:41,480
Speaker 3: Revere for them and their brass monkey. Opening rhyme is

3059
02:39:41,640 --> 02:39:44,600
Speaker 3: from my old English rhyme. I had a rhyme that

3060
02:39:44,760 --> 02:39:46,959
Speaker 3: was about old English. I got this rhyme that's more

3061
02:39:47,040 --> 02:39:49,320
Speaker 3: than real. When you drink all English, it's how you

3062
02:39:49,480 --> 02:39:52,600
Speaker 3: feel you're reaching the freezer for forty ounce or thirty

3063
02:39:52,640 --> 02:39:55,440
Speaker 3: two ounce, whichever counts, you feel each bottle for the

3064
02:39:55,520 --> 02:39:57,440
Speaker 3: one that's cold. It's got to be cold when you're

3065
02:39:57,480 --> 02:39:59,600
Speaker 3: drinking no gold, but you might get the one that

3066
02:40:00,280 --> 02:40:02,120
Speaker 3: you gotta get it hot. That's all they've got a

3067
02:40:02,240 --> 02:40:05,080
Speaker 3: dollar thirty five. That is the price. That's not too much.

3068
02:40:05,360 --> 02:40:07,240
Speaker 3: If you want to get nice, you pay your money.

3069
02:40:07,360 --> 02:40:09,720
Speaker 3: Walk out the door. You say to yourself, I remember

3070
02:40:09,800 --> 02:40:12,240
Speaker 3: that store. You're looking around for a place to stem,

3071
02:40:12,400 --> 02:40:14,960
Speaker 3: and with a quarter old English inside your hand, you

3072
02:40:15,080 --> 02:40:17,680
Speaker 3: crack the cort. You put it to your lip, you

3073
02:40:17,840 --> 02:40:20,080
Speaker 3: tilt it slightly, and you take a ship now. And

3074
02:40:20,200 --> 02:40:22,520
Speaker 3: by now you should know the deal, because that one

3075
02:40:22,720 --> 02:40:25,200
Speaker 3: ship you already feel. You feel in bold. So you

3076
02:40:25,320 --> 02:40:27,400
Speaker 3: try to guzzle, and you do it again, because it

3077
02:40:27,480 --> 02:40:31,280
Speaker 3: ain't no puzzle. Sat this own English ride that they

3078
02:40:31,400 --> 02:40:33,320
Speaker 3: just said, we got this ride, and that's on than meal.

3079
02:40:33,360 --> 02:40:35,520
Speaker 3: When you drink braskemall get is how you feel. So

3080
02:40:36,480 --> 02:40:38,160
Speaker 3: I was drinking a case of forty is a day

3081
02:40:38,200 --> 02:40:40,440
Speaker 3: and I got a q pancreatitis I.

3082
02:40:40,520 --> 02:40:41,039
Speaker 2: Was going through.

3083
02:40:41,640 --> 02:40:44,800
Speaker 3: I didn't have no well. I guess this is a

3084
02:40:44,840 --> 02:40:48,680
Speaker 3: symptom of depression. I can't drink no more but then

3085
02:40:48,760 --> 02:40:52,480
Speaker 3: down when the king comes out. So when that elevation came,

3086
02:40:52,560 --> 02:40:55,440
Speaker 3: it pushed me further down. So I got to the

3087
02:40:55,480 --> 02:40:58,080
Speaker 3: point where I didn't want to live with this feeling

3088
02:40:58,200 --> 02:41:00,760
Speaker 3: in me right, so I said him, I kill myself.

3089
02:41:00,879 --> 02:41:04,240
Speaker 3: But before I go, I got records, I got videos.

3090
02:41:04,320 --> 02:41:06,320
Speaker 3: I think there's two books on us. I want to

3091
02:41:06,600 --> 02:41:09,080
Speaker 3: leave a book because I want people to know Daryl,

3092
02:41:09,800 --> 02:41:12,080
Speaker 3: the guy behind it, King of Rock. So I came

3093
02:41:12,160 --> 02:41:14,520
Speaker 3: up with the idea, just in case I kill myself tomorrow,

3094
02:41:14,680 --> 02:41:16,080
Speaker 3: I want to write a book and I'm gona go, Yo,

3095
02:41:16,120 --> 02:41:19,240
Speaker 3: what's up, world, I'm Darald McDaniels. You know me DMC

3096
02:41:19,400 --> 02:41:21,760
Speaker 3: from the groundbreaking rap group Run DMC first to Go

3097
02:41:21,879 --> 02:41:23,560
Speaker 3: Go First, to Go Platinum first, and a cover of

3098
02:41:23,600 --> 02:41:24,440
Speaker 3: Rolling Stone First.

3099
02:41:24,320 --> 02:41:26,640
Speaker 2: With the secret deals. Everything that hip hop is doing.

3100
02:41:26,720 --> 02:41:28,959
Speaker 3: They say it's because of me Running Jay, but I'm

3101
02:41:29,000 --> 02:41:32,080
Speaker 3: really just Daryl McDaniels, no different from any boiled girl

3102
02:41:32,120 --> 02:41:33,680
Speaker 3: on the face of the earth. I was born May

3103
02:41:33,760 --> 02:41:37,560
Speaker 3: thirty first, nineteen sixty four, and and I was like

3104
02:41:38,120 --> 02:41:38,880
Speaker 3: I was going to make that.

3105
02:41:39,520 --> 02:41:41,600
Speaker 2: I realized I didn't know no details about the day

3106
02:41:41,720 --> 02:41:43,400
Speaker 2: was going, so I called my mom's up.

3107
02:41:43,640 --> 02:41:47,039
Speaker 3: Now at this time, for anybody listening, I should have said, Mom,

3108
02:41:47,280 --> 02:41:49,720
Speaker 3: I want to kill like I should have let it out,

3109
02:41:49,760 --> 02:41:52,600
Speaker 3: but guilt, shame, not wanting to be vulnerable. Plus I'm

3110
02:41:52,600 --> 02:41:54,200
Speaker 3: a rap I gotta be cool, and I'm a black

3111
02:41:54,240 --> 02:41:56,000
Speaker 3: man and all that shit. And I don't want to

3112
02:41:56,040 --> 02:41:58,640
Speaker 3: bother on my mother with this stuff that I'll do

3113
02:41:58,840 --> 02:42:01,120
Speaker 3: it by myself. That's just the wrong thing to do.

3114
02:42:01,720 --> 02:42:05,360
Speaker 3: But I said, Mom, I'm writing this book, and just

3115
02:42:05,440 --> 02:42:07,320
Speaker 3: to make it more interesting for the reader, I want

3116
02:42:07,360 --> 02:42:08,960
Speaker 3: to know three things about the day was born.

3117
02:42:09,240 --> 02:42:11,359
Speaker 2: How much should I wait? What time? What hospital?

3118
02:42:11,440 --> 02:42:13,240
Speaker 3: So she tells me, I love you, I love you,

3119
02:42:13,360 --> 02:42:15,520
Speaker 3: so I love you to my hump. The phone, ourl

3120
02:42:15,560 --> 02:42:17,240
Speaker 3: goes by. She calls back with my father.

3121
02:42:17,800 --> 02:42:20,400
Speaker 2: At this point in my life, I'm an alcoholic suicide

3122
02:42:20,440 --> 02:42:25,160
Speaker 2: of metaphysical spiritual record's thinking of killing himself. Who can't

3123
02:42:25,240 --> 02:42:27,080
Speaker 2: drink no more? Because I wanted to drink to help

3124
02:42:27,120 --> 02:42:29,320
Speaker 2: me deal with emotions and stuff that I was feeling,

3125
02:42:29,600 --> 02:42:31,280
Speaker 2: so I could suppress those emotions.

3126
02:42:31,760 --> 02:42:34,680
Speaker 3: And the phone rings and my mother says, it's my

3127
02:42:34,800 --> 02:42:37,520
Speaker 3: mother and father. So I'm thirty five years old. Now

3128
02:42:37,520 --> 02:42:40,000
Speaker 3: I went the king is killing and I'm suicidal. We

3129
02:42:40,200 --> 02:42:41,720
Speaker 3: have something else to tell.

3130
02:42:41,560 --> 02:42:43,800
Speaker 2: You, So I'm thinking she's gonna go, Well, when you

3131
02:42:43,920 --> 02:42:45,840
Speaker 2: was born, there was a power outist in the hospital

3132
02:42:45,879 --> 02:42:47,920
Speaker 2: who gave birth to you by canadlelight. No, she hit

3133
02:42:47,959 --> 02:42:49,880
Speaker 2: me with this. We have something else to tell you.

3134
02:42:49,959 --> 02:42:50,320
Speaker 2: What is it?

3135
02:42:50,879 --> 02:42:52,879
Speaker 3: You was a month old when we brought you home,

3136
02:42:52,920 --> 02:42:54,160
Speaker 3: and you're adopted and we love.

3137
02:42:54,080 --> 02:43:00,879
Speaker 2: You by click that They didn't when she hung up

3138
02:43:00,879 --> 02:43:02,000
Speaker 2: the phone. Know my mother and father.

3139
02:43:02,440 --> 02:43:04,880
Speaker 3: Honey, honey, he's asking it is We gotta tell him

3140
02:43:04,920 --> 02:43:06,160
Speaker 3: right now, so they rushed the phone.

3141
02:43:06,160 --> 02:43:07,520
Speaker 2: You tell him, No, you tell I can see my

3142
02:43:07,560 --> 02:43:09,720
Speaker 2: mother yet you It was my fucker. When you take

3143
02:43:09,760 --> 02:43:13,800
Speaker 2: people by thirty five years old and you at a

3144
02:43:13,920 --> 02:43:16,480
Speaker 2: month old. I found out I was adopted at thirty five.

3145
02:43:16,560 --> 02:43:18,080
Speaker 2: Then I found out that I was a foster kid.

3146
02:43:18,400 --> 02:43:20,440
Speaker 2: So long story short, that made me really want to

3147
02:43:20,520 --> 02:43:23,879
Speaker 2: kill myself. Because of that revelation, I started drinking again.

3148
02:43:24,640 --> 02:43:26,600
Speaker 2: Now I'm not supposed to be drinking, and my wife

3149
02:43:26,959 --> 02:43:30,000
Speaker 2: love my wife, Surrey. She keeps it well. I say

3150
02:43:30,360 --> 02:43:35,400
Speaker 2: I'm drinking because making excuses. I'm drinking because I'm celebrating

3151
02:43:35,600 --> 02:43:39,240
Speaker 2: newfound part of my identity that I didn't know about.

3152
02:43:39,400 --> 02:43:41,480
Speaker 2: She looked me in my eye. I love women.

3153
02:43:42,240 --> 02:43:43,119
Speaker 3: Motherfucker.

3154
02:43:43,480 --> 02:43:46,240
Speaker 2: You fucking drinking because you can't handle the fact that

3155
02:43:46,360 --> 02:43:49,360
Speaker 2: you just found out that you was adopted, because think

3156
02:43:49,400 --> 02:43:55,760
Speaker 2: about my whole career. Christmas timing, don't stop doing my show.

3157
02:43:57,320 --> 02:43:57,920
Speaker 2: I was thirty.

3158
02:43:57,959 --> 02:43:59,880
Speaker 3: I found out that I was adopted when I was

3159
02:44:00,040 --> 02:44:04,280
Speaker 3: thirty five years old. Okay, and then the Dominican thing came.

3160
02:44:04,680 --> 02:44:09,560
Speaker 3: They called back, They called back Rain and this is fun.

3161
02:44:10,080 --> 02:44:10,760
Speaker 2: Are you okay?

3162
02:44:11,160 --> 02:44:14,160
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, because he just released and

3163
02:44:14,560 --> 02:44:18,360
Speaker 3: then they goes, well, all we know is your mother

3164
02:44:18,640 --> 02:44:22,959
Speaker 3: was in Hamilton Heights right up to above Washington Heights.

3165
02:44:23,120 --> 02:44:27,800
Speaker 3: Where who's in Washington Heights? And we think you're Dominicans.

3166
02:44:29,000 --> 02:44:31,200
Speaker 3: So this is my mother and father. I'm dealing with

3167
02:44:31,360 --> 02:44:34,320
Speaker 3: all this ancients in motion. They tell her I'm Dominican.

3168
02:44:34,800 --> 02:44:37,440
Speaker 3: So from that day for five years, I'm running around

3169
02:44:37,480 --> 02:44:39,720
Speaker 3: the world telling everybody I just found out that I'm

3170
02:44:39,720 --> 02:44:42,480
Speaker 3: adopted Dominican and the Dominicans. I love my wife for

3171
02:44:42,959 --> 02:44:43,920
Speaker 3: my wife's.

3172
02:44:46,520 --> 02:44:46,560
Speaker 2: Know.

3173
02:44:46,879 --> 02:44:47,520
Speaker 3: You want to know.

3174
02:44:48,440 --> 02:44:49,000
Speaker 2: I went out.

3175
02:44:49,040 --> 02:44:53,920
Speaker 3: There's a Dominican rapper, anybody knows name Alpha. It's a fake.

3176
02:44:54,040 --> 02:45:02,959
Speaker 2: No, no, he said, oh Meg, somebody tiego from Budemco's

3177
02:45:03,000 --> 02:45:05,520
Speaker 2: a Dominican rapper who's face.

3178
02:45:05,640 --> 02:45:07,760
Speaker 3: So I go out and buy all this Dominican rapmer.

3179
02:45:08,920 --> 02:45:11,280
Speaker 3: I'm going buy Dominican cook books.

3180
02:45:12,240 --> 02:45:20,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Daddy, Yankee tells me, and I believe in her, say,

3181
02:45:20,560 --> 02:45:20,960
Speaker 2: I'll do it.

3182
02:45:21,040 --> 02:45:24,720
Speaker 3: You should be the grand Marshrew of the Dominican Parade.

3183
02:45:25,480 --> 02:45:32,000
Speaker 3: I'm going fall I'm telling Bill Adler, I'm telling Bill

3184
02:45:32,280 --> 02:45:35,000
Speaker 3: asked Bill, I'm calling him, telling him give me everything

3185
02:45:35,080 --> 02:45:36,240
Speaker 3: on Dominican art.

3186
02:45:36,560 --> 02:45:38,480
Speaker 2: That's Bill Ella and all of this. Suffen.

3187
02:45:38,600 --> 02:45:41,560
Speaker 3: I love my wife, my wife, Sorry, she the whole time, Darryl.

3188
02:45:41,680 --> 02:45:43,680
Speaker 3: Don't you think you should find out?

3189
02:45:44,160 --> 02:45:44,200
Speaker 2: No?

3190
02:45:44,480 --> 02:45:46,760
Speaker 3: No, my mother and fall Byford in bed they know what.

3191
02:45:47,640 --> 02:45:49,600
Speaker 3: So going on going on, going on on, So long

3192
02:45:49,640 --> 02:45:52,000
Speaker 3: story short, I do it, search and I find my

3193
02:45:52,120 --> 02:45:55,760
Speaker 3: birth mother. I grew up in Queens. She was in

3194
02:45:55,840 --> 02:45:58,960
Speaker 3: Stanton Island all the time. Wow, Just which is Craig

3195
02:45:59,000 --> 02:46:00,640
Speaker 3: Burrow kind of like right over?

3196
02:46:00,720 --> 02:46:04,040
Speaker 2: And the reason why she was in Hamilton Heights she

3197
02:46:04,240 --> 02:46:06,240
Speaker 2: was living in Hamilton Heights at the time she was

3198
02:46:06,320 --> 02:46:08,960
Speaker 2: pregnant with me. No, she was living in Hamilton Heights

3199
02:46:09,040 --> 02:46:11,600
Speaker 2: before she got pregnant with me. Her father moved the

3200
02:46:11,680 --> 02:46:14,440
Speaker 2: family to Stanton Island, but her boyfriend was there, so

3201
02:46:14,600 --> 02:46:15,520
Speaker 2: she would always leave.

3202
02:46:15,440 --> 02:46:19,039
Speaker 3: Stanton Island go back to Hamilton Heights to see her boyfriend.

3203
02:46:19,280 --> 02:46:21,640
Speaker 3: And the thing was, she was like eighteen years old.

3204
02:46:21,720 --> 02:46:23,680
Speaker 3: She was like, yo, don't fuck around and get pregnant.

3205
02:46:24,240 --> 02:46:26,119
Speaker 3: So she went around and got pregnant.

3206
02:46:25,959 --> 02:46:28,840
Speaker 2: With my first brother and in Normatti yet and they

3207
02:46:28,840 --> 02:46:30,600
Speaker 2: were say, yo, don't do the city. She got pregnant

3208
02:46:30,640 --> 02:46:31,960
Speaker 2: with me. When she came over with me, there was

3209
02:46:32,040 --> 02:46:34,440
Speaker 2: no way they could keep me, so they gave me up.

3210
02:46:34,520 --> 02:46:37,280
Speaker 2: So to answer you a question, so I figure, I

3211
02:46:37,360 --> 02:46:39,680
Speaker 2: see my birth bumping. I yeah, this is that boombering.

3212
02:46:39,720 --> 02:46:42,880
Speaker 2: It's good to meet you. And she I go, who's

3213
02:46:42,920 --> 02:46:48,520
Speaker 2: Dominican then? And I said, I'm Dominican, right. She says, no,

3214
02:46:48,760 --> 02:46:55,640
Speaker 2: who told you that Dominican? And I'm like, oh, because

3215
02:46:56,360 --> 02:46:59,879
Speaker 2: that the month before me My wife.

3216
02:46:59,800 --> 02:47:03,040
Speaker 3: Is a Dominican publication that I just ran into this

3217
02:47:03,200 --> 02:47:06,879
Speaker 3: guy walking down on Broadway by asked the place.

3218
02:47:07,040 --> 02:47:10,000
Speaker 2: And he was like, yo, DMC, you what we wanted

3219
02:47:10,000 --> 02:47:11,800
Speaker 2: a venue for hip hop? And I'm like yeah, yeah,

3220
02:47:11,879 --> 02:47:16,120
Speaker 2: and I'm Dominican too. I did a whole interview about

3221
02:47:16,120 --> 02:47:19,480
Speaker 2: being a Dominican, so my mama to be I had

3222
02:47:19,520 --> 02:47:21,400
Speaker 2: to call it the guy up. Yoh, yo.

3223
02:47:21,520 --> 02:47:23,160
Speaker 3: We got a problem. We got a big problem. We

3224
02:47:23,240 --> 02:47:25,880
Speaker 3: got a big problem was that I just found my birth.

3225
02:47:25,959 --> 02:47:27,920
Speaker 3: When I found out that I ain't Dominican, should have

3226
02:47:28,000 --> 02:47:31,680
Speaker 3: hurt his for Oh that's not good, bro y'all like

3227
02:47:32,200 --> 02:47:34,360
Speaker 3: that whole thing. But then we squared it up.

3228
02:47:34,400 --> 02:47:37,039
Speaker 2: But the cool thing about it was he got back

3229
02:47:37,080 --> 02:47:39,279
Speaker 2: on the phone and said, I told my whole audience

3230
02:47:39,360 --> 02:47:41,280
Speaker 2: and stuff like that video. But he said, no, you're

3231
02:47:41,360 --> 02:47:43,520
Speaker 2: down with us anyway, because you're DMC. You know what

3232
02:47:43,520 --> 02:47:47,080
Speaker 2: I'm saying. But I thought I was Dominican, nor because

3233
02:47:47,160 --> 02:47:49,040
Speaker 2: I found out at age thirty five that I was

3234
02:47:49,120 --> 02:47:50,480
Speaker 2: adopted and blew.

3235
02:47:51,879 --> 02:47:55,519
Speaker 3: And after me and my mother had those two conversations,

3236
02:47:56,040 --> 02:47:58,880
Speaker 3: the next thing that happened was this. The phone rang

3237
02:47:59,040 --> 02:48:03,000
Speaker 3: for a week because there's all my cousins that I

3238
02:48:03,160 --> 02:48:06,879
Speaker 3: grew up with who are now thirty five forty fish.

3239
02:48:08,080 --> 02:48:10,800
Speaker 2: No right, they're not my blood cousins. OK.

3240
02:48:10,959 --> 02:48:14,280
Speaker 3: These are family. I'm thanking and I'm one of them.

3241
02:48:14,680 --> 02:48:17,440
Speaker 3: They call and go, oh, dar, we're so glad your

3242
02:48:17,480 --> 02:48:28,920
Speaker 3: mother we helped that in for thirty five, Oh, Derek, Samantha, Eve, Craig, Sharon, Sonya,

3243
02:48:29,480 --> 02:48:32,880
Speaker 3: all of them when they Christmas in Hollish right in

3244
02:48:33,000 --> 02:48:38,280
Speaker 3: my in my house in Hollie Queen's. If it was Christmas, Thanksgiving, graduation, wedding,

3245
02:48:38,440 --> 02:48:41,400
Speaker 3: it was always at the McDaniel's family house. Everything my

3246
02:48:41,480 --> 02:48:44,560
Speaker 3: mount's putting on you. So my cousins reveal this to me,

3247
02:48:45,680 --> 02:48:48,480
Speaker 3: and I'm talking about since they were little, every time.

3248
02:48:48,560 --> 02:48:50,960
Speaker 3: We're going over to McDaniels for Thanksgiving, we're going over

3249
02:48:51,000 --> 02:48:53,720
Speaker 3: to McDaniels for Christmas, We're going over to McDaniels for

3250
02:48:53,840 --> 02:48:56,200
Speaker 3: the birthday. We're going on over McDaniels because such and

3251
02:48:56,240 --> 02:49:00,760
Speaker 3: such graduating kids, kids come to the room. Sit down,

3252
02:49:00,920 --> 02:49:05,320
Speaker 3: these kids for thirty five years. What's the rule when

3253
02:49:05,360 --> 02:49:08,720
Speaker 3: we go over to mister and mister McDaniels house. Nobody

3254
02:49:08,800 --> 02:49:14,200
Speaker 3: let Darryl know he's adopted. Oh my god, Oh my god, so,

3255
02:49:14,480 --> 02:49:15,160
Speaker 3: oh my yeah.

3256
02:49:15,360 --> 02:49:17,960
Speaker 2: Here, I'm getting ready to do a movie about not

3257
02:49:18,080 --> 02:49:21,879
Speaker 2: a biopic, you're ready to do a movie about that situation.

3258
02:49:22,080 --> 02:49:24,600
Speaker 2: And no, that's and to think the thing about it was,

3259
02:49:24,680 --> 02:49:26,480
Speaker 2: it's it's just just two things. When I met other

3260
02:49:26,560 --> 02:49:27,280
Speaker 2: adopted people.

3261
02:49:29,120 --> 02:49:31,720
Speaker 3: I love my parents for not telling me because they

3262
02:49:31,760 --> 02:49:35,000
Speaker 3: were afraid that it might do something. Because my brother

3263
02:49:35,480 --> 02:49:39,120
Speaker 3: who's there, biological Alfred, he says, what happened was my

3264
02:49:39,200 --> 02:49:42,359
Speaker 3: mother had other Forster kids that went back to the families,

3265
02:49:42,360 --> 02:49:44,360
Speaker 3: because I remember cousins that I had that I didn't

3266
02:49:44,360 --> 02:49:46,720
Speaker 3: see nowise we were growing up. Those were kids that

3267
02:49:46,800 --> 02:49:50,440
Speaker 3: went back, and my parents officially adopted me when I

3268
02:49:50,600 --> 02:49:53,960
Speaker 3: was five years old. But my brother Alfred said, we

3269
02:49:54,080 --> 02:49:56,640
Speaker 3: had this other kid, what was the same name as Oscar.

3270
02:49:56,959 --> 02:49:58,959
Speaker 3: I remember the day he left, and I just remember

3271
02:49:59,040 --> 02:50:01,520
Speaker 3: my brother's three. I think my brother was six, and

3272
02:50:01,560 --> 02:50:04,039
Speaker 3: I just remember my brother telling me because mother's here

3273
02:50:04,080 --> 02:50:06,120
Speaker 3: to get him, and I'm like, okay, my aunt's here

3274
02:50:06,160 --> 02:50:07,640
Speaker 3: to get Oscar. I'm gona see him next week. Never

3275
02:50:07,680 --> 02:50:09,800
Speaker 3: saw him again. Then there was other little girls and

3276
02:50:09,840 --> 02:50:11,720
Speaker 3: stuff like that. But my brother said this would happen

3277
02:50:12,200 --> 02:50:14,600
Speaker 3: and this is what's crazy about all the comic books

3278
02:50:14,640 --> 02:50:16,080
Speaker 3: and all the shit, and this has to do with

3279
02:50:16,280 --> 02:50:20,760
Speaker 3: rigs too. So every kid went back. And I'm in

3280
02:50:20,840 --> 02:50:23,080
Speaker 3: there playing with my toys in the porch and anest

3281
02:50:23,160 --> 02:50:27,840
Speaker 3: queens and my my mother. But dounthin Mather looks over

3282
02:50:27,879 --> 02:50:31,240
Speaker 3: at my father and this is funny. What are we

3283
02:50:31,320 --> 02:50:33,280
Speaker 3: gonna do with this one? It's like a you know,

3284
02:50:33,520 --> 02:50:35,760
Speaker 3: a pet. Take him back to the shelf. My father

3285
02:50:35,879 --> 02:50:38,840
Speaker 3: says this. My brother says, Oh, you know what, I

3286
02:50:39,040 --> 02:50:42,360
Speaker 3: think we all adopt this one because you never know

3287
02:50:42,520 --> 02:50:44,720
Speaker 3: he might grow up and do something that will change

3288
02:50:44,760 --> 02:50:45,160
Speaker 3: the world.

3289
02:50:46,840 --> 02:50:48,720
Speaker 2: So it's in front of you, you, in front of

3290
02:50:48,760 --> 02:50:51,440
Speaker 2: my brother. Oh okay, okay. Even though I'm little, he

3291
02:50:51,640 --> 02:50:54,400
Speaker 2: heard them say that, and then you know, he even

3292
02:50:54,440 --> 02:50:56,800
Speaker 2: called Daryn, I'm so glad Mama tell you that, because

3293
02:50:57,000 --> 02:50:59,160
Speaker 2: I didn't want you to find out on their deathbed,

3294
02:50:59,240 --> 02:51:01,520
Speaker 2: because a lot of time docs that don't get told.

3295
02:51:01,560 --> 02:51:03,680
Speaker 2: We cleaning out the house and I'm going, what's these papers?

3296
02:51:04,080 --> 02:51:06,040
Speaker 2: That would have been really crazy, So at least they

3297
02:51:06,120 --> 02:51:08,680
Speaker 2: got to get it out before they passed away.

3298
02:51:09,080 --> 02:51:12,760
Speaker 3: So my brother, what I was gonna say was his

3299
02:51:13,040 --> 02:51:15,200
Speaker 3: was crazy about all the superheroes. When I was growing up.

3300
02:51:15,280 --> 02:51:17,600
Speaker 3: The only people that I felt I could connect to

3301
02:51:17,720 --> 02:51:20,760
Speaker 3: what the superheroes and the comic books. And if you

3302
02:51:20,840 --> 02:51:24,160
Speaker 3: think about it, most superheroes are nerdy, geeky, awkward people

3303
02:51:24,360 --> 02:51:27,680
Speaker 3: struggling in their regular lives. But then rig Sent meet

3304
02:51:27,800 --> 02:51:31,480
Speaker 3: but they turned into these people when I met is

3305
02:51:31,600 --> 02:51:35,039
Speaker 3: spider Man often. I was just gonna say that, talk

3306
02:51:35,080 --> 02:51:38,240
Speaker 3: about Rix. So Riggs, we have this comic book meeting

3307
02:51:38,280 --> 02:51:40,720
Speaker 3: and we're doing that and boom ban Man. About two

3308
02:51:40,840 --> 02:51:43,840
Speaker 3: or three weeks later, Riggs discovers my adoption story theself.

3309
02:51:43,920 --> 02:51:45,360
Speaker 3: So I come back in the office and he's doing

3310
02:51:45,440 --> 02:51:51,160
Speaker 3: this and I'm like, hi, Rick, same way when they

3311
02:51:51,240 --> 02:51:53,360
Speaker 3: meant and he goes like this, Jo D, this is

3312
02:51:53,480 --> 02:51:56,360
Speaker 3: fucking crazy. And Rix says, Yo, D, you are really

3313
02:51:56,480 --> 02:51:58,960
Speaker 3: on some superhero shit. I was like, what are you

3314
02:51:59,040 --> 02:51:59,600
Speaker 3: talking about?

3315
02:52:00,040 --> 02:52:00,360
Speaker 2: Says Yo.

3316
02:52:00,440 --> 02:52:03,400
Speaker 3: Most superheroes are adopted or have a family issue, or

3317
02:52:03,800 --> 02:52:06,880
Speaker 3: Superman came from someone that. That's what my mother and

3318
02:52:06,959 --> 02:52:09,720
Speaker 3: father did. Clark, there's something we need to tell You're

3319
02:52:09,760 --> 02:52:12,080
Speaker 3: not really from We love you, but you're not what

3320
02:52:12,360 --> 02:52:16,280
Speaker 3: you have this thing, that's what that Spider Man from Queens.

3321
02:52:16,320 --> 02:52:19,120
Speaker 3: It had to be raised my aunt May Batman what

3322
02:52:19,240 --> 02:52:22,720
Speaker 3: happened seeing his parents get killed in front. So everybody

3323
02:52:22,760 --> 02:52:26,360
Speaker 3: has those issues. But all of that led to me

3324
02:52:26,600 --> 02:52:28,840
Speaker 3: when when I first met Rix, he goes, do you

3325
02:52:28,920 --> 02:52:32,200
Speaker 3: look my superhero? But going back to that, when I

3326
02:52:32,320 --> 02:52:38,400
Speaker 3: found my birth mother, she goes, I know you're dying

3327
02:52:38,840 --> 02:52:40,120
Speaker 3: to know why I gave you up.

3328
02:52:40,200 --> 02:52:41,879
Speaker 2: My birth mom is his name is bern Senia.

3329
02:52:43,000 --> 02:52:47,440
Speaker 3: My adopted parents thought I was actually Dominican because of

3330
02:52:47,600 --> 02:52:50,440
Speaker 3: the whole Washington House Hamilton Heights. But when they was

3331
02:52:50,520 --> 02:52:55,520
Speaker 3: doing the adoption transaction, they just remember they thought my

3332
02:52:55,640 --> 02:53:00,840
Speaker 3: mother's name was Bernarda, so Bernarda and Dominic in the area.

3333
02:53:01,840 --> 02:53:04,199
Speaker 3: That's what they thought about. My mother's name is Brincinia.

3334
02:53:04,240 --> 02:53:06,879
Speaker 3: But she says, I know you're dying to know why

3335
02:53:06,879 --> 02:53:09,160
Speaker 3: I gave you up. And I was like shit, Lady

3336
02:53:09,200 --> 02:53:11,480
Speaker 3: that said, I understand, and she hit me with this,

3337
02:53:11,720 --> 02:53:14,760
Speaker 3: I gave you up to give you a chance. So

3338
02:53:15,000 --> 02:53:17,680
Speaker 3: then all of this and went back to the void.

3339
02:53:17,800 --> 02:53:21,039
Speaker 3: When down went the King went back up. When down

3340
02:53:21,080 --> 02:53:23,400
Speaker 3: with the King went up, and I went into the depression,

3341
02:53:24,320 --> 02:53:27,440
Speaker 3: that was you know, it's like one of the gods

3342
02:53:27,480 --> 02:53:30,760
Speaker 3: just says, Mercury, fly down and revealed to him.

3343
02:53:30,680 --> 02:53:31,520
Speaker 2: Who he really is.

3344
02:53:32,000 --> 02:53:35,160
Speaker 3: When I went into the depression. It's same when I

3345
02:53:35,360 --> 02:53:38,200
Speaker 3: met my birthfather. She said, you was going through a

3346
02:53:38,200 --> 02:53:41,400
Speaker 3: depression right that time. Nineteen ninety three, Down went the King,

3347
02:53:41,720 --> 02:53:44,560
Speaker 3: she said, in nineteen ninety three, her secret that she

3348
02:53:44,680 --> 02:53:47,720
Speaker 3: knew she had given me up. Her best friend turns

3349
02:53:47,840 --> 02:53:50,760
Speaker 3: to her, No, her daughter turns to.

3350
02:53:52,240 --> 02:53:57,000
Speaker 2: My sister. Jeeta turns they're watching an adoption thing on TV.

3351
02:53:57,480 --> 02:54:00,080
Speaker 2: And my sister turns to my mother joking you, I

3352
02:54:00,160 --> 02:54:02,640
Speaker 2: have no secrets out there. My mother says, yes, I do.

3353
02:54:03,600 --> 02:54:05,400
Speaker 2: Geter goes what we gave this kissing so they never

3354
02:54:05,480 --> 02:54:07,280
Speaker 2: knew it was me. My brother I found out had

3355
02:54:07,440 --> 02:54:09,960
Speaker 2: a sister and two brothers. I didn't know about my

3356
02:54:10,080 --> 02:54:12,320
Speaker 2: older brother. Mark to this day.

3357
02:54:12,560 --> 02:54:16,400
Speaker 3: Looks like the eighty six DMC glasses goatey and this

3358
02:54:16,520 --> 02:54:20,199
Speaker 3: is gonna blow your mind, he draws. So his whole

3359
02:54:20,320 --> 02:54:25,800
Speaker 3: life from rock box to downwent the king, his whole life.

3360
02:54:25,840 --> 02:54:29,160
Speaker 3: He got this, Mark, Mark, come here that god DMC

3361
02:54:29,280 --> 02:54:32,400
Speaker 3: could be your brother. Eighty six Mark markham by eighty eight,

3362
02:54:32,480 --> 02:54:34,440
Speaker 3: I know, motherfucking DMC could be my brother.

3363
02:54:34,760 --> 02:54:39,480
Speaker 2: Come to find out DMC. How crazy is that? So?

3364
02:54:39,800 --> 02:54:41,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, I found out that I was adopted. I thought

3365
02:54:42,000 --> 02:54:44,760
Speaker 3: I was diminishing because I was trying to grasp on

3366
02:54:45,160 --> 02:54:48,480
Speaker 3: any identifying and understandable to.

3367
02:54:48,520 --> 02:54:50,760
Speaker 4: Fill the boys and all of this is how you

3368
02:54:51,240 --> 02:54:54,520
Speaker 4: segued into advocating for mental health.

3369
02:54:54,760 --> 02:54:56,039
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly.

3370
02:54:56,320 --> 02:54:58,440
Speaker 3: And can you talk about some of the stuff you're

3371
02:54:58,440 --> 02:54:58,760
Speaker 3: doing in that?

3372
02:54:58,879 --> 02:54:59,039
Speaker 8: Yeah?

3373
02:54:59,120 --> 02:55:02,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, So out of that that whole brought up this

3374
02:55:02,720 --> 02:55:03,240
Speaker 2: is just crazy.

3375
02:55:03,320 --> 02:55:07,160
Speaker 3: It didn't end it though, Alcoholic suicide and metaphysical wreck

3376
02:55:07,480 --> 02:55:09,320
Speaker 3: who just found out that he was adopted and was

3377
02:55:09,400 --> 02:55:12,720
Speaker 3: a forster kid. Jim I said, Jay, get shine help

3378
02:55:15,840 --> 02:55:18,520
Speaker 3: and then and then and there yet I remember my

3379
02:55:18,640 --> 02:55:21,080
Speaker 3: mother father. Three months later, my father died. I remember

3380
02:55:21,160 --> 02:55:23,640
Speaker 3: the night Jay died. My father goes, why would anybody

3381
02:55:23,760 --> 02:55:26,199
Speaker 3: want to kill Jay? This is such a then my father,

3382
02:55:26,520 --> 02:55:29,320
Speaker 3: so imagine what I was dealing with. But then I

3383
02:55:29,400 --> 02:55:33,560
Speaker 3: met another adopted person who said thee there's something that

3384
02:55:33,800 --> 02:55:34,600
Speaker 3: you need to do.

3385
02:55:35,600 --> 02:55:37,880
Speaker 2: I was like, what's that? And when I found out

3386
02:55:37,920 --> 02:55:39,199
Speaker 2: I was adopted, Remember.

3387
02:55:38,920 --> 02:55:42,840
Speaker 3: I had pancreatitis, I started drinking again and so I'm

3388
02:55:42,920 --> 02:55:43,680
Speaker 3: drinking and someff.

3389
02:55:43,840 --> 02:55:46,480
Speaker 2: But then somebody said, deep, you need to go to therapy.

3390
02:55:47,480 --> 02:55:49,640
Speaker 3: At first, I ain't going to no fucking therapy that

3391
02:55:50,600 --> 02:55:52,840
Speaker 3: and then I said, okay, fuck it with Tony Stark,

3392
02:55:52,879 --> 02:55:54,199
Speaker 3: so Peter Parker go to therapy.

3393
02:55:54,879 --> 02:55:57,240
Speaker 2: I had to depend on my coun So I went

3394
02:55:57,280 --> 02:56:00,200
Speaker 2: to therapy and I found out therapy it's really ooh.

3395
02:56:01,320 --> 02:56:04,080
Speaker 2: And I wasn't ashamed to talk about it because hip

3396
02:56:04,120 --> 02:56:06,640
Speaker 2: hop has taught me or keep it real. So how

3397
02:56:06,879 --> 02:56:10,400
Speaker 2: the work started was I go to therapy and in therapy,

3398
02:56:10,800 --> 02:56:15,120
Speaker 2: the therapist doesn't help you. Therapy helps you. The therapist

3399
02:56:15,200 --> 02:56:17,119
Speaker 2: doesn't help you. So a lot of people don't want

3400
02:56:17,280 --> 02:56:19,560
Speaker 2: to do. No, you gotta go because the therapist is

3401
02:56:19,680 --> 02:56:22,520
Speaker 2: just a decoy to do two things for you, because

3402
02:56:22,560 --> 02:56:25,280
Speaker 2: you haven't done it with yourself. Two things happen.

3403
02:56:25,920 --> 02:56:30,360
Speaker 3: You say stuff to yourself that you said before but

3404
02:56:30,480 --> 02:56:36,080
Speaker 3: you didn't listen to. Or you say stuff that you

3405
02:56:36,360 --> 02:56:39,600
Speaker 3: need to hear. You say to yourself but you don't

3406
02:56:39,600 --> 02:56:41,200
Speaker 3: want to say it to you in the mirror. That's

3407
02:56:41,320 --> 02:56:44,240
Speaker 3: hard facing yourself, so you face So I went to therapy.

3408
02:56:44,280 --> 02:56:45,920
Speaker 3: It's cool, I got clean and sob.

3409
02:56:45,800 --> 02:56:46,520
Speaker 2: And whatever whatever.

3410
02:56:47,120 --> 02:56:49,920
Speaker 3: So when I get out of therapy. The reason why

3411
02:56:50,000 --> 02:56:54,800
Speaker 3: this book happened and the reason why home I do

3412
02:56:54,959 --> 02:56:58,040
Speaker 3: what I do is for a very funny reason. My

3413
02:56:58,200 --> 02:57:05,280
Speaker 3: partner Run during that time had Runs House, very successful show.

3414
02:57:05,480 --> 02:57:08,960
Speaker 3: Ten seasons of it was in the bathtob of the BlackBerry.

3415
02:57:09,280 --> 02:57:09,680
Speaker 2: Remember that.

3416
02:57:10,120 --> 02:57:13,560
Speaker 3: So the first season people would watch it and they know,

3417
02:57:14,080 --> 02:57:16,879
Speaker 3: I know at the inn finale, DMC is gonna show up.

3418
02:57:17,800 --> 02:57:20,440
Speaker 2: I didn't show up season one. I know this shit.

3419
02:57:20,760 --> 02:57:23,280
Speaker 2: I didn't show up the three. So after I get

3420
02:57:23,320 --> 02:57:26,720
Speaker 2: our therapy and rehab, I get this question, Norri, everywhere

3421
02:57:26,720 --> 02:57:29,760
Speaker 2: I go, why you ain't on Runs House?

3422
02:57:29,879 --> 02:57:32,480
Speaker 3: What's the beef the whole social media shit, and that's

3423
02:57:32,480 --> 02:57:35,240
Speaker 3: in that they GMC's pouring and cared Russell and run

3424
02:57:35,320 --> 02:57:36,400
Speaker 3: got Bentley's and this and that.

3425
02:57:37,320 --> 02:57:39,199
Speaker 2: No, no, no, the reason why I run.

3426
02:57:39,160 --> 02:57:42,320
Speaker 3: DMC ain't together is because Jay's dead out about that.

3427
02:57:43,720 --> 02:57:47,320
Speaker 3: We can't replace our fucking drama. Oh I forgot about that?

3428
02:57:47,520 --> 02:57:50,160
Speaker 3: So where you been DMC and me? Keeping it real?

3429
02:57:51,480 --> 02:57:53,720
Speaker 3: I go, well, I was gonna kill my I tell

3430
02:57:53,959 --> 02:57:56,800
Speaker 3: people this, but I just told you so. These people

3431
02:57:56,840 --> 02:58:00,480
Speaker 3: are coming at me on the celebrity DMC shit. They

3432
02:58:00,560 --> 02:58:02,920
Speaker 3: see the mighty king of rock who walked his way

3433
02:58:02,959 --> 02:58:05,680
Speaker 3: in as Adidas while telling the world how tricky life

3434
02:58:05,720 --> 02:58:06,000
Speaker 3: could be.

3435
02:58:06,760 --> 02:58:09,880
Speaker 2: But now I'm saying, you know, I was gonna kill myself.

3436
02:58:09,920 --> 02:58:12,640
Speaker 2: I was alcoholic and everybody was going twelve I want

3437
02:58:12,680 --> 02:58:15,320
Speaker 2: to say the forty, twelve forty, and then two things,

3438
02:58:15,600 --> 02:58:18,400
Speaker 2: twelve fucking forties. Yet over the phone, yere this and that.

3439
02:58:18,760 --> 02:58:21,520
Speaker 2: But every time I would do that E I would

3440
02:58:21,560 --> 02:58:25,920
Speaker 2: get this reaction. These people would stop, look around like

3441
02:58:26,040 --> 02:58:28,039
Speaker 2: the CIA was around, and.

3442
02:58:28,080 --> 02:58:31,520
Speaker 3: They would whisper to me, I've never told anybody this,

3443
02:58:31,760 --> 02:58:36,640
Speaker 3: d me to wow. Now they're telling they didn't tell that.

3444
02:58:36,800 --> 02:58:40,840
Speaker 3: Workers family, They struggling like ours. But because I'm damn

3445
02:58:41,000 --> 02:58:45,000
Speaker 3: c adda my ada, and I just revealed at them.

3446
02:58:45,320 --> 02:58:45,880
Speaker 2: Now they're safe.

3447
02:58:45,920 --> 02:58:47,560
Speaker 3: They would tell me, but this isn't when that hurt me,

3448
02:58:47,680 --> 02:58:50,520
Speaker 3: This is what got me working. If it wasn't them,

3449
02:58:50,600 --> 02:58:53,960
Speaker 3: they would look around, and this is what stigma exists.

3450
02:58:54,640 --> 02:58:57,120
Speaker 3: People are guilty and shame and afraid. But this is

3451
02:58:57,160 --> 02:58:59,320
Speaker 3: the one that I hate the most. They were looking

3452
02:58:59,320 --> 02:58:59,760
Speaker 3: around and.

3453
02:58:59,800 --> 02:59:02,320
Speaker 2: If they didn't say me too, they would go I've

3454
02:59:02,440 --> 02:59:06,800
Speaker 2: never told anybody this, but my mother, my daughter, my father.

3455
02:59:07,000 --> 02:59:09,240
Speaker 2: So that hit me up. You mean, for the last

3456
02:59:09,360 --> 02:59:13,960
Speaker 2: eight ish your daughter's home smoking meth and struggling, and

3457
02:59:14,120 --> 02:59:16,760
Speaker 2: you're worried about how people going to think about you

3458
02:59:17,040 --> 02:59:19,600
Speaker 2: for having that daughter. So I said, let me get

3459
02:59:19,640 --> 02:59:23,480
Speaker 2: more vocal about So I just started going to wherever

3460
02:59:23,560 --> 02:59:25,640
Speaker 2: I was invited. Once people on my story, I was sharp,

3461
02:59:25,680 --> 02:59:28,240
Speaker 2: and I'd tell my story. I would go to high schools,

3462
02:59:28,240 --> 02:59:29,600
Speaker 2: I would go to middle schools. I would go to

3463
02:59:29,640 --> 02:59:31,600
Speaker 2: group homes. I would go to Forster Care Agency. I

3464
02:59:31,640 --> 02:59:34,680
Speaker 2: would go to hospitals. I would go to fire departments.

3465
02:59:35,400 --> 02:59:37,440
Speaker 2: I would go to police since because a lot of

3466
02:59:37,520 --> 02:59:41,440
Speaker 2: police are having mental issues across the board. Every time

3467
02:59:41,600 --> 02:59:46,560
Speaker 2: I talked, I realized what this world has been preparing

3468
02:59:46,680 --> 02:59:49,480
Speaker 2: me for through the hip hop the King of Rock.

3469
02:59:49,560 --> 02:59:51,200
Speaker 2: Shit was just to set up for what I was

3470
02:59:51,320 --> 02:59:52,240
Speaker 2: really put here to do.

3471
02:59:52,879 --> 02:59:56,080
Speaker 3: I found out that I'm a billion times more powerful

3472
02:59:56,600 --> 02:59:59,560
Speaker 3: telling people when shit isn't going good for me. My

3473
02:59:59,640 --> 03:00:02,280
Speaker 3: whole care read was Christmas Tim Hollis Queen's I'm the

3474
03:00:02,320 --> 03:00:05,320
Speaker 3: Devastating This and I always reported to y'all my goodness,

3475
03:00:05,360 --> 03:00:08,400
Speaker 3: and it was very inspiring. It's even more inspiring when

3476
03:00:08,400 --> 03:00:11,720
Speaker 3: I met that a vulnerable, scared, afraid, weak and confused,

3477
03:00:11,879 --> 03:00:15,400
Speaker 3: because then those people go, you know what, I'm gonna

3478
03:00:15,440 --> 03:00:18,200
Speaker 3: go get help to you. So that that's why I

3479
03:00:18,320 --> 03:00:21,720
Speaker 3: do it. Because of my joke is because of Pete

3480
03:00:21,800 --> 03:00:24,640
Speaker 3: rocking Down went the King. I talk about mental health

3481
03:00:24,640 --> 03:00:25,760
Speaker 3: because that was a catalyst.

3482
03:00:26,800 --> 03:00:27,400
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

3483
03:00:28,080 --> 03:00:31,120
Speaker 3: Because in eighty eight, if y'all remember and from No.

3484
03:00:31,320 --> 03:00:35,720
Speaker 3: Eighty nine we put out a flop album. We put

3485
03:00:35,760 --> 03:00:38,640
Speaker 3: out a flop album called Back from Hell. Y'all don't

3486
03:00:38,680 --> 03:00:40,920
Speaker 3: remember it. I don't remember that. You remember the ad?

3487
03:00:42,879 --> 03:00:46,160
Speaker 2: No? Do you remember pause when he's doing nw Jack swinging?

3488
03:00:49,840 --> 03:00:52,720
Speaker 2: That was part of my depression. I talk about his book.

3489
03:00:53,760 --> 03:00:56,040
Speaker 3: Jay was flying, he was doing that. So Jay had

3490
03:00:56,160 --> 03:00:58,480
Speaker 3: us doing these new jack swing records and then pause

3491
03:00:58,560 --> 03:01:00,240
Speaker 3: was good. People say, oh, that was good and this

3492
03:01:00,320 --> 03:01:02,600
Speaker 3: and that. I didn't want to do it, but I

3493
03:01:02,680 --> 03:01:06,600
Speaker 3: did it to please then, and it made me drink

3494
03:01:07,120 --> 03:01:09,680
Speaker 3: because when Jay said let's do now, there's nothing wrong

3495
03:01:09,720 --> 03:01:13,000
Speaker 3: with nu jack swing and all of that shit, I

3496
03:01:13,160 --> 03:01:15,680
Speaker 3: just don't like it. Right, This wasn't I don't want

3497
03:01:15,680 --> 03:01:18,320
Speaker 3: to rap over that shit. But when I was in therapy,

3498
03:01:18,600 --> 03:01:22,960
Speaker 3: my therapist said, motherfucker you. I was diagnosed with suppressed emotions.

3499
03:01:23,440 --> 03:01:25,680
Speaker 3: All the drinking I was doing is was because I

3500
03:01:25,760 --> 03:01:27,920
Speaker 3: didn't want to tell people the truth.

3501
03:01:27,760 --> 03:01:29,920
Speaker 2: About I don't want to do that record. I don't

3502
03:01:29,959 --> 03:01:31,600
Speaker 2: want to go to there. I did so much people

3503
03:01:31,680 --> 03:01:34,720
Speaker 2: pleasing that I was suppressing with the alcohol.

3504
03:01:34,959 --> 03:01:39,120
Speaker 3: So when I got out of rehab, my when I

3505
03:01:39,200 --> 03:01:41,040
Speaker 3: got into rehab just happened to me.

3506
03:01:41,320 --> 03:01:45,040
Speaker 2: My therapist was I was, what thirty six, so my

3507
03:01:45,200 --> 03:01:48,400
Speaker 2: therapist probably was like forty six, forty eight white guy.

3508
03:01:49,080 --> 03:01:51,800
Speaker 2: It's a white doctor thing and a clipboard. So he

3509
03:01:51,920 --> 03:01:55,520
Speaker 2: comes in for my first therapy session in rehabit and

3510
03:01:55,600 --> 03:01:58,280
Speaker 2: he sits down and he says, Darryl during your career.

3511
03:01:58,360 --> 03:02:02,119
Speaker 2: Referend DMC that runs Russell or anybody at the record

3512
03:02:02,160 --> 03:02:06,000
Speaker 2: company do anything to get you upset. And I'm said,

3513
03:02:06,520 --> 03:02:10,160
Speaker 2: and I lie no, And you know, he's said he's

3514
03:02:10,160 --> 03:02:11,920
Speaker 2: the doctor, and he got his glasses and I go no.

3515
03:02:12,040 --> 03:02:14,400
Speaker 2: He looks up at me and glasses and he does this,

3516
03:02:17,840 --> 03:02:21,320
Speaker 2: alasses all start some button in the white cloak. So

3517
03:02:21,360 --> 03:02:24,360
Speaker 2: I'm sitting there with just my fucker gonna hear some shit.

3518
03:02:24,480 --> 03:02:27,040
Speaker 3: And he sits down and it's crazy. He had I

3519
03:02:27,080 --> 03:02:28,440
Speaker 3: weigh him all the time. He had on an AC

3520
03:02:28,560 --> 03:02:30,920
Speaker 3: DC shirt. I guess he did that to break the ice.

3521
03:02:31,000 --> 03:02:32,320
Speaker 2: He sat there and he looked at me and E

3522
03:02:32,680 --> 03:02:37,480
Speaker 2: and he sent you a goddamn mother fucking liar. And

3523
03:02:37,600 --> 03:02:40,120
Speaker 2: when he said that to me, yeah, man in nineteen

3524
03:02:40,160 --> 03:02:43,880
Speaker 2: eighty three, must nineteen eighty So I started the man

3525
03:02:44,240 --> 03:02:46,840
Speaker 2: Russell did this. I started remember everything profile of you.

3526
03:02:47,000 --> 03:02:47,840
Speaker 2: It all poured out of me.

3527
03:02:47,920 --> 03:02:50,360
Speaker 3: So when I got out of rehab, this is funny,

3528
03:02:50,959 --> 03:02:51,600
Speaker 3: he says to me.

3529
03:02:51,720 --> 03:02:56,080
Speaker 2: From now on, D be hip hop, keep it real,

3530
03:02:56,680 --> 03:02:58,680
Speaker 2: always tell the truth. And he said it might have

3531
03:02:59,480 --> 03:03:02,040
Speaker 2: it might have set some people. They might not like

3532
03:03:02,120 --> 03:03:04,280
Speaker 2: you for that moment, but they'll fucking get over it.

3533
03:03:04,440 --> 03:03:06,480
Speaker 2: But I also got to be ready to receive it

3534
03:03:06,800 --> 03:03:08,720
Speaker 2: to when they do it. But then he says this,

3535
03:03:08,840 --> 03:03:14,640
Speaker 2: He says, from now on, speak your truth, Tell the truth,

3536
03:03:15,200 --> 03:03:20,560
Speaker 2: no matter what right, and I go. Even if my

3537
03:03:20,760 --> 03:03:25,959
Speaker 2: wife asked me if she's sat in this true story.

3538
03:03:26,000 --> 03:03:29,760
Speaker 3: Not that one, she all this says out there, this

3539
03:03:29,879 --> 03:03:35,520
Speaker 3: is life for not that one. But now you ask

3540
03:03:35,600 --> 03:03:40,480
Speaker 3: me my opinion, I give it true truth. I don't

3541
03:03:40,520 --> 03:03:42,680
Speaker 3: even want to say truth. Such a free he just said,

3542
03:03:42,760 --> 03:03:46,840
Speaker 3: from now on. My manager Eric hates me. Sometimes they're

3543
03:03:46,840 --> 03:03:49,000
Speaker 3: going to give you five hundred thousand dollars.

3544
03:03:49,360 --> 03:03:51,000
Speaker 2: Who is it? What is it doing with it?

3545
03:03:51,120 --> 03:03:51,160
Speaker 6: For?

3546
03:03:51,320 --> 03:03:53,720
Speaker 2: I don't like it? Nope, he think I'm crazy. But

3547
03:03:53,879 --> 03:03:56,920
Speaker 2: I'd rather make a hundred thousand dollars five times and

3548
03:03:57,040 --> 03:04:01,080
Speaker 2: take to five hundred thousand dollars. I'd rather one hundred

3549
03:04:01,120 --> 03:04:04,360
Speaker 2: and fifty dollars do the math to get to I'd

3550
03:04:04,440 --> 03:04:09,680
Speaker 2: rather make a hundred dollars a thousand, ten thousand times

3551
03:04:09,720 --> 03:04:12,320
Speaker 2: to get the million than taking the million foot And

3552
03:04:12,440 --> 03:04:14,400
Speaker 2: that's what I was doing my whole career and the

3553
03:04:14,480 --> 03:04:16,320
Speaker 2: reason why I bring up the Back from Hell album.

3554
03:04:16,320 --> 03:04:17,400
Speaker 2: If you listen to Back from.

3555
03:04:17,280 --> 03:04:20,160
Speaker 3: Hell album, The only guy that knew something was going

3556
03:04:20,240 --> 03:04:23,760
Speaker 3: wrong artistically run with front of C was Dante Ross.

3557
03:04:24,800 --> 03:04:28,480
Speaker 3: But you know what, when we put back from Hell

3558
03:04:28,520 --> 03:04:31,720
Speaker 3: Out and Paus out, he was that motherfucker must have

3559
03:04:31,760 --> 03:04:32,360
Speaker 3: been in therapy.

3560
03:04:32,440 --> 03:04:37,040
Speaker 2: That motherfucker. What the fuck is running deep see doing

3561
03:04:37,160 --> 03:04:41,520
Speaker 2: new jack Fish's bullshit like he went him? No, he

3562
03:04:41,640 --> 03:04:42,680
Speaker 2: Kevin real, Kevin real.

3563
03:04:42,959 --> 03:04:46,000
Speaker 3: But that's what I should have did, and it could

3564
03:04:46,040 --> 03:04:49,240
Speaker 3: have went like this, Yo, Then y'all do the records, y'all.

3565
03:04:49,480 --> 03:04:51,640
Speaker 3: Ud you know, I have no problem, only want to

3566
03:04:51,680 --> 03:04:53,080
Speaker 3: be on the record in the first place I was

3567
03:04:53,080 --> 03:04:55,680
Speaker 3: gonna be, so I'm already there. But then the whole

3568
03:04:55,800 --> 03:04:59,520
Speaker 3: thing was I mean, when I lost my voice. Russell

3569
03:04:59,560 --> 03:05:01,680
Speaker 3: even told one day and day, but you gotta show up.

3570
03:05:01,720 --> 03:05:05,080
Speaker 3: The motherfuckers ain't buying Run. They buying Run DMC. So

3571
03:05:05,200 --> 03:05:07,920
Speaker 3: you're standing there, shut up. I did millions of show

3572
03:05:07,920 --> 03:05:12,360
Speaker 3: when I couldn't rhyme. Imagine that, and you was lip syncing, well,

3573
03:05:12,800 --> 03:05:15,440
Speaker 3: Jay was playing the vocals and rhyming over with me.

3574
03:05:16,040 --> 03:05:18,600
Speaker 3: So in course of the moment, people don't know, but

3575
03:05:19,320 --> 03:05:22,640
Speaker 3: that went on for probably like maybe two and a

3576
03:05:22,720 --> 03:05:26,039
Speaker 3: half years maybe, so imagine how I felt. And then

3577
03:05:26,080 --> 03:05:28,640
Speaker 3: I even realized those are part of the suicidal thoughts.

3578
03:05:28,840 --> 03:05:30,880
Speaker 3: I talk about it in the book I can't. I'm

3579
03:05:31,000 --> 03:05:32,920
Speaker 3: thinking I was only put here to rhyme.

3580
03:05:33,440 --> 03:05:38,000
Speaker 2: So if you keep superpower, the superhero lose the superpower.

3581
03:05:38,120 --> 03:05:42,080
Speaker 3: What happens, But then you realize who you really are.

3582
03:05:42,720 --> 03:05:45,280
Speaker 3: I didn't have to go get to operation for my voice.

3583
03:05:46,080 --> 03:05:47,920
Speaker 2: It just came back. I was hanging with Chuck d

3584
03:05:48,040 --> 03:05:53,520
Speaker 2: one day and it's like that superhero. I started glowing

3585
03:05:53,600 --> 03:05:58,600
Speaker 2: and ship like it was. You didn't get an operation nothing,

3586
03:05:58,720 --> 03:06:01,119
Speaker 2: So you're just sitting there with Chuck. But well, well

3587
03:06:01,200 --> 03:06:05,039
Speaker 2: too to the mental health thing is it's all very mental.

3588
03:06:05,320 --> 03:06:10,000
Speaker 2: When I was in therapy, my therapist said, don't let

3589
03:06:10,200 --> 03:06:14,600
Speaker 2: nothing define you or your situations or your operations. And

3590
03:06:14,640 --> 03:06:15,800
Speaker 2: I was like, what do you mean, how do you

3591
03:06:15,879 --> 03:06:16,080
Speaker 2: do that?

3592
03:06:16,480 --> 03:06:18,960
Speaker 3: She said, you've been doing it your whole life, and

3593
03:06:19,080 --> 03:06:21,160
Speaker 3: I never knew this. She said, she brought up to

3594
03:06:21,520 --> 03:06:23,800
Speaker 3: where lives can be never singing. The good news is

3595
03:06:23,840 --> 03:06:25,560
Speaker 3: that there is a crew. It's about time for a

3596
03:06:25,640 --> 03:06:28,440
Speaker 3: brand new group. All other things won't be the same.

3597
03:06:28,680 --> 03:06:31,720
Speaker 3: But then she said, don't you know all of your

3598
03:06:31,760 --> 03:06:35,000
Speaker 3: most powerful lyrics, like the one that you got just

3599
03:06:35,160 --> 03:06:37,959
Speaker 3: ended with you start with this is crazy. And now

3600
03:06:38,040 --> 03:06:40,360
Speaker 3: I'm not religious. I think religious to bide. I think

3601
03:06:40,440 --> 03:06:42,920
Speaker 3: politics the bid. The arts is the only thing that

3602
03:06:43,040 --> 03:06:45,480
Speaker 3: succeeds where politics and religion fails.

3603
03:06:46,000 --> 03:06:51,000
Speaker 2: Politics and religion fails us. I agree, I'm saying it, yeah, Religi, yes,

3604
03:06:51,240 --> 03:06:55,760
Speaker 2: you holy motherfuckers. That shit fails us. But the arts

3605
03:06:56,280 --> 03:06:59,320
Speaker 2: succeeds where politics and religion fail. But she said to

3606
03:06:59,400 --> 03:07:01,320
Speaker 2: me this, She said, don't you know most of your

3607
03:07:01,400 --> 03:07:06,640
Speaker 2: powerful rhymes start with the two words I am. I'm DMC,

3608
03:07:07,160 --> 03:07:09,800
Speaker 2: I'm the son of byfriend, I'm the king of rock,

3609
03:07:09,879 --> 03:07:13,080
Speaker 2: I'm the devastating my control of d MC. All my

3610
03:07:13,280 --> 03:07:16,720
Speaker 2: i ams manifested into them. I was imperfect. I didn't

3611
03:07:16,800 --> 03:07:17,880
Speaker 2: need nothing else.

3612
03:07:18,200 --> 03:07:21,560
Speaker 3: But when I forgot about that and I went I

3613
03:07:21,640 --> 03:07:25,400
Speaker 3: went to a bunch of voice doctors. One doctor told me,

3614
03:07:25,879 --> 03:07:28,800
Speaker 3: and this is before I knew it was mental, there's

3615
03:07:28,959 --> 03:07:30,680
Speaker 3: nothing physically wrong with you.

3616
03:07:30,680 --> 03:07:32,920
Speaker 2: Your voice is a little red, your throat is a

3617
03:07:32,959 --> 03:07:36,000
Speaker 2: little red. Because you're out there every night pushing it.

3618
03:07:36,200 --> 03:07:38,040
Speaker 2: Nothing's coming out. You know.

3619
03:07:38,480 --> 03:07:42,760
Speaker 3: Obama had wrote a book, and in the book he said,

3620
03:07:43,400 --> 03:07:47,680
Speaker 3: your voice isn't how you sound, your voice is who

3621
03:07:47,760 --> 03:07:51,640
Speaker 3: you are. So when I found when I'm adopted, Oh

3622
03:07:51,720 --> 03:07:57,840
Speaker 3: there's my birth mother screwing the missing pop pop.

3623
03:07:58,040 --> 03:08:01,280
Speaker 2: It was all mental was full to Vni Sigul because

3624
03:08:01,280 --> 03:08:04,680
Speaker 2: he lost his voice. I haven't spoken to I knew

3625
03:08:05,360 --> 03:08:08,160
Speaker 2: what's his name, the DC. He was in a car,

3626
03:08:09,000 --> 03:08:09,400
Speaker 2: but I was.

3627
03:08:09,680 --> 03:08:13,960
Speaker 3: I was diagnosed with the thing called spasmodic dysphonia, which

3628
03:08:14,040 --> 03:08:18,280
Speaker 3: is involuntary spasms of your vocal cord. But my crazy

3629
03:08:18,400 --> 03:08:20,959
Speaker 3: diagnosis was you even have one or the other.

3630
03:08:21,120 --> 03:08:25,800
Speaker 2: It's abductor or ad doctor like in the gym, they

3631
03:08:25,840 --> 03:08:28,760
Speaker 2: have an abductor machine for your length and added the

3632
03:08:29,320 --> 03:08:34,240
Speaker 2: doctor diagnosed me with both of them, and then I

3633
03:08:34,240 --> 03:08:37,040
Speaker 2: would They gave me the botox shot with the needle.

3634
03:08:37,320 --> 03:08:38,720
Speaker 2: The needles about this long.

3635
03:08:39,640 --> 03:08:42,280
Speaker 3: I went to Mount Sign and they put both tooks

3636
03:08:42,360 --> 03:08:46,880
Speaker 3: in your vocal cords to stop the electric impulses from

3637
03:08:46,920 --> 03:08:49,120
Speaker 3: your brain getting there. So they did it to me

3638
03:08:49,200 --> 03:08:51,840
Speaker 3: and I passed out and it was like here for

3639
03:08:51,920 --> 03:08:54,200
Speaker 3: the number of days that the voice number came back

3640
03:08:54,320 --> 03:08:58,160
Speaker 3: until I found my birth It's crazy. So now I

3641
03:08:58,240 --> 03:09:03,760
Speaker 3: think what's healing me is therapy is addressing your issues

3642
03:09:04,480 --> 03:09:05,240
Speaker 3: because when I.

3643
03:09:05,320 --> 03:09:08,000
Speaker 2: Speak, wonders like DMC, I ain't got no money. Like you,

3644
03:09:08,120 --> 03:09:09,440
Speaker 2: I can't afford a therapist.

3645
03:09:09,920 --> 03:09:12,560
Speaker 3: So what do you tell somebody struggling with an emotion

3646
03:09:13,200 --> 03:09:18,879
Speaker 3: or condition, suicidal whatever whatever? I say, Sometimes you don't

3647
03:09:18,920 --> 03:09:22,000
Speaker 3: need money for therapy. I say, in your darkest hour,

3648
03:09:22,640 --> 03:09:25,800
Speaker 3: when even if you can't smile, there's somebody that you

3649
03:09:25,959 --> 03:09:30,560
Speaker 3: think about that brings a smile to your spirit. That's

3650
03:09:30,640 --> 03:09:32,560
Speaker 3: the person you go to and do what people was

3651
03:09:32,600 --> 03:09:34,039
Speaker 3: doing to me. But I had to get it out

3652
03:09:34,080 --> 03:09:35,880
Speaker 3: of you go to I said, it might be you

3653
03:09:35,959 --> 03:09:37,480
Speaker 3: know how you grew up in the neighborhood, and you

3654
03:09:37,600 --> 03:09:41,640
Speaker 3: love mister Hooper who runs the store, and I've known

3655
03:09:41,720 --> 03:09:43,680
Speaker 3: you sent you or the barber that cut your hand.

3656
03:09:44,120 --> 03:09:45,760
Speaker 3: Those are the people you go up to here and say, yo,

3657
03:09:45,840 --> 03:09:48,000
Speaker 3: I've never told anybody you got to integrat storing like

3658
03:09:48,040 --> 03:09:50,160
Speaker 3: this so they understand when it's coming.

3659
03:09:50,440 --> 03:09:53,840
Speaker 2: I've never told anybody this. But I want to kill myself.

3660
03:09:54,600 --> 03:09:55,640
Speaker 2: There's nothing wrong.

3661
03:09:55,720 --> 03:09:58,960
Speaker 3: And when I speak, there's nothing wrong with a person

3662
03:09:59,200 --> 03:10:03,360
Speaker 3: saying they feel like killing themselves. And what you mean

3663
03:10:03,400 --> 03:10:04,760
Speaker 3: it's a no, no, no, it's not a good thing,

3664
03:10:05,080 --> 03:10:08,640
Speaker 3: but it's nothing wrong with it. For instance, if it's

3665
03:10:08,760 --> 03:10:11,600
Speaker 3: hot in here, could I tell you not to feel

3666
03:10:11,680 --> 03:10:14,400
Speaker 3: hot if it's a hundred degrees in there?

3667
03:10:14,440 --> 03:10:17,440
Speaker 2: Can I tell you not if it's cold outside, Can

3668
03:10:17,520 --> 03:10:19,400
Speaker 2: I tell you go out there nor it's Timblau and

3669
03:10:19,520 --> 03:10:21,880
Speaker 2: not feel cold? No? Can I tell you not to

3670
03:10:21,959 --> 03:10:26,080
Speaker 2: feel hungry? So I'm realizing it's a feeling that they

3671
03:10:26,160 --> 03:10:28,120
Speaker 2: have what you have to do when your approach with

3672
03:10:28,200 --> 03:10:31,920
Speaker 2: that sit down with the person. And even if it's chemical,

3673
03:10:32,440 --> 03:10:35,760
Speaker 2: there's a catalyst, a who, what, when, where and why

3674
03:10:36,280 --> 03:10:37,720
Speaker 2: that causes that feeling.

3675
03:10:38,400 --> 03:10:40,720
Speaker 3: Find out who, what, when or why it's doing it.

3676
03:10:41,120 --> 03:10:44,600
Speaker 3: And here remove my strength of not drinking again. And

3677
03:10:44,680 --> 03:10:47,000
Speaker 3: I went to rehab. And when I was in rehab,

3678
03:10:47,040 --> 03:10:49,720
Speaker 3: I was in there for thirty days. Oh, I was

3679
03:10:49,800 --> 03:10:52,200
Speaker 3: going to do this at Leo's thing, But I get that.

3680
03:10:52,360 --> 03:10:54,480
Speaker 2: Don't need you to speak. Just come on stage with me.

3681
03:10:56,480 --> 03:10:59,640
Speaker 3: For the fuck out of kot prepare. The whole fuck

3682
03:10:59,720 --> 03:11:01,800
Speaker 3: is about your ass.

3683
03:11:01,959 --> 03:11:05,240
Speaker 2: I ain't got nothing to do with this fucking music. Pullshit,

3684
03:11:06,040 --> 03:11:08,680
Speaker 2: I got you. You can't get it. You know, think

3685
03:11:08,720 --> 03:11:11,520
Speaker 2: you forgot because he's telling he's calling Eric and wanted

3686
03:11:11,560 --> 03:11:11,920
Speaker 2: me to come.

3687
03:11:11,959 --> 03:11:13,320
Speaker 3: And I'm getting back. I gotta speak.

3688
03:11:13,320 --> 03:11:15,960
Speaker 2: I speak about him and Kathy, and you'll be in

3689
03:11:16,040 --> 03:11:17,480
Speaker 2: my role I get that. I don't need you to

3690
03:11:17,560 --> 03:11:18,520
Speaker 2: speak this coming. See.

3691
03:11:20,400 --> 03:11:22,320
Speaker 3: I went hit in the back, you know, because I

3692
03:11:22,360 --> 03:11:25,160
Speaker 3: don't like to be here. But I gotta come in

3693
03:11:25,320 --> 03:11:28,840
Speaker 3: Leon because Leo is part of the people that saved

3694
03:11:28,879 --> 03:11:32,160
Speaker 3: my life. Because when I was going through this, Leo

3695
03:11:32,320 --> 03:11:35,240
Speaker 3: actually paid for my rehab for me to go to.

3696
03:11:35,280 --> 03:11:37,279
Speaker 2: The Rihow darylstricky.

3697
03:11:37,320 --> 03:11:38,280
Speaker 3: He can't fucking die.

3698
03:11:38,360 --> 03:11:41,920
Speaker 2: We can't have Daryl died. And it was Kathy. I

3699
03:11:42,000 --> 03:11:47,480
Speaker 2: love Kathy sime oneas I was disappointed she wasn't in

3700
03:11:47,760 --> 03:11:52,480
Speaker 2: l a leor fuck is up with that? Well, okay,

3701
03:11:53,080 --> 03:11:53,640
Speaker 2: it was blood.

3702
03:11:54,280 --> 03:11:57,000
Speaker 3: So Kathy went to Leo and Leo was I paid

3703
03:11:57,040 --> 03:12:01,120
Speaker 3: for Daryl go to fucking meet. I went to fucking

3704
03:12:02,000 --> 03:12:03,880
Speaker 3: so I gotta come in and I tell Leo it

3705
03:12:04,000 --> 03:12:06,840
Speaker 3: wasn't because of this music shit. I was gonna need you.

3706
03:12:06,959 --> 03:12:09,240
Speaker 2: At a die. The reason why we met was much

3707
03:12:09,440 --> 03:12:11,960
Speaker 2: deeper in this music shit. But it's cut that to

3708
03:12:12,040 --> 03:12:14,080
Speaker 2: hip hop brought us together. So I got out of

3709
03:12:14,160 --> 03:12:15,240
Speaker 2: rehabit now I go.

3710
03:12:15,440 --> 03:12:17,720
Speaker 3: I did a book called Darryl's Dream, which is a

3711
03:12:17,800 --> 03:12:20,520
Speaker 3: story about me in third grade getting teased, bullied, and

3712
03:12:20,560 --> 03:12:23,640
Speaker 3: picked on because I want to save my poem and

3713
03:12:23,800 --> 03:12:25,720
Speaker 3: other kids don't think it's cool. But then I save

3714
03:12:25,800 --> 03:12:27,800
Speaker 3: my poem, I get a standing ovation. Now all the

3715
03:12:27,840 --> 03:12:30,440
Speaker 3: motherfucking kids want me to teach them how to say bowdream.

3716
03:12:30,640 --> 03:12:32,960
Speaker 3: All of a sudden, my cool, just like Nori. All

3717
03:12:33,000 --> 03:12:35,080
Speaker 3: the motherfucks that was coming in, motherfucker run. All the

3718
03:12:35,160 --> 03:12:38,200
Speaker 3: bullies in the hard rocks, Oh, now you want to

3719
03:12:38,240 --> 03:12:39,000
Speaker 3: be my friend?

3720
03:12:39,160 --> 03:12:42,680
Speaker 2: Mother. They ain't even waving at me. Now you know

3721
03:12:42,720 --> 03:12:44,800
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. You know, motherfucker that took my sneakers

3722
03:12:44,879 --> 03:12:47,960
Speaker 2: over there, and the motherfuckers snapped here. You made me Rhyn.

3723
03:12:48,080 --> 03:12:50,000
Speaker 3: Now all the hard rocks want to be but it's

3724
03:12:50,080 --> 03:12:51,160
Speaker 3: the same stories.

3725
03:12:51,440 --> 03:12:56,720
Speaker 2: Okay, So now you know, every year since my childhood,

3726
03:12:57,040 --> 03:13:00,440
Speaker 2: it doesn't feel like this holiday unless I hear this record, right,

3727
03:13:00,920 --> 03:13:04,760
Speaker 2: and I will also give it to Mariah Carry as well.

3728
03:13:05,280 --> 03:13:07,480
Speaker 2: Every year. So let me ask you, every year at

3729
03:13:07,520 --> 03:13:10,039
Speaker 2: Christmas time, we're cooler because it's hip hop. Yeah yeah,

3730
03:13:10,320 --> 03:13:15,240
Speaker 2: yeah platinum every year Christmas time. No, because all the

3731
03:13:15,360 --> 03:13:20,760
Speaker 2: money goes to the special Olympics, Pubblish shit, hel all

3732
03:13:20,840 --> 03:13:23,080
Speaker 2: the money was trying to be good niggas back then. No,

3733
03:13:23,360 --> 03:13:26,000
Speaker 2: we didn't want to do that shit either. No, No,

3734
03:13:26,320 --> 03:13:28,800
Speaker 2: let me tell you another.

3735
03:13:29,360 --> 03:13:31,520
Speaker 3: We didn't want to do that ship when they approached us.

3736
03:13:31,680 --> 03:13:34,879
Speaker 3: When they want you to know, that's corny fake. There

3737
03:13:34,879 --> 03:13:38,240
Speaker 3: ain't gonna be no Christmas wrapping elves like we thought

3738
03:13:38,240 --> 03:13:41,039
Speaker 3: it was gonna be corny shit. No, we didn't want

3739
03:13:41,080 --> 03:13:43,320
Speaker 3: to do it. It's for the special Olympics. Let them

3740
03:13:43,360 --> 03:13:47,840
Speaker 3: find somebody else. Bill Adler shout out to Bill Adler.

3741
03:13:48,920 --> 03:13:51,200
Speaker 2: He comes to it. Y'all could do what y'all want

3742
03:13:51,240 --> 03:13:51,400
Speaker 2: to do.

3743
03:13:52,080 --> 03:13:58,280
Speaker 3: He Bill comes and plays us the music, the back

3744
03:13:58,360 --> 03:13:59,440
Speaker 3: Door Santa sample.

3745
03:13:59,680 --> 03:14:01,880
Speaker 2: Because at first meet Me and Run wasn't gonna do it.

3746
03:14:01,959 --> 03:14:03,439
Speaker 2: But when we heard don't.

3747
03:14:06,280 --> 03:14:08,280
Speaker 3: We could do that shit give me a pinion. So

3748
03:14:08,440 --> 03:14:10,120
Speaker 3: Me and Run we went and wrote our rhymes. But

3749
03:14:10,680 --> 03:14:13,040
Speaker 3: every year we don't see no money from that.

3750
03:14:13,160 --> 03:14:17,320
Speaker 2: That's all wow. Start to end. Well, let me just

3751
03:14:17,440 --> 03:14:20,160
Speaker 2: tell you do this. If I don't hear that record,

3752
03:14:20,480 --> 03:14:23,440
Speaker 2: it's not no. Here's where we are with that. And

3753
03:14:23,560 --> 03:14:26,160
Speaker 2: this is so cool about hip hop. This was about

3754
03:14:26,480 --> 03:14:27,240
Speaker 2: four years ago.

3755
03:14:29,000 --> 03:14:30,720
Speaker 3: I don't know if it was a journalist or is

3756
03:14:30,760 --> 03:14:32,920
Speaker 3: doing an interview or whatever they said.

3757
03:14:33,480 --> 03:14:34,760
Speaker 2: Who would have thought.

3758
03:14:36,160 --> 03:14:41,640
Speaker 3: In the existence of this universe that hip hop would

3759
03:14:41,840 --> 03:14:46,959
Speaker 3: do something, would continue to do something phenomenal. After all

3760
03:14:46,959 --> 03:14:49,840
Speaker 3: the phenomenal stuff that is done. That's why I believe

3761
03:14:49,879 --> 03:14:52,760
Speaker 3: this fifty years of hip hop, yall, we just getting started.

3762
03:14:53,440 --> 03:14:56,560
Speaker 3: Still got more to do, innovation, creativity. We got Hollywood

3763
03:14:56,600 --> 03:14:59,000
Speaker 3: to take over now and conquer different stories.

3764
03:14:59,080 --> 03:14:59,560
Speaker 2: So much to do.

3765
03:15:00,040 --> 03:15:03,880
Speaker 3: They said, Christmas used to be Justice Laurie, the black

3766
03:15:03,959 --> 03:15:08,560
Speaker 3: guy Nat King Cole singing just not roasting on an

3767
03:15:08,600 --> 03:15:11,879
Speaker 3: opening fire right all. The white guy Ben Crosby actually

3768
03:15:11,959 --> 03:15:19,000
Speaker 3: singing I'm dreamy. Remember that's Christmas who in a million

3769
03:15:19,160 --> 03:15:22,119
Speaker 3: years said that's just going to change. Now they say,

3770
03:15:22,640 --> 03:15:25,360
Speaker 3: for the rest of the existence of this universe, it's

3771
03:15:26,080 --> 03:15:30,480
Speaker 3: Nat King Cole, Ben Crosby and run MCS Christmas in Hollis.

3772
03:15:32,280 --> 03:15:36,720
Speaker 3: That's guy that me my mom. I was like, whoa

3773
03:15:37,680 --> 03:15:40,760
Speaker 3: you mean? I'm like Curry Cuomo now. But it's but

3774
03:15:41,480 --> 03:15:42,480
Speaker 3: it's a hip hop shit.

3775
03:15:42,520 --> 03:15:43,000
Speaker 2: We don't.

3776
03:15:44,520 --> 03:15:46,840
Speaker 3: Like you know what I'm saying. That's a huge achievement,

3777
03:15:47,000 --> 03:15:49,560
Speaker 3: even the Rockawall Hall of Fame. I want people to

3778
03:15:49,640 --> 03:15:52,879
Speaker 3: understand something. People always go, d you don't know who

3779
03:15:52,920 --> 03:15:55,640
Speaker 3: you are. I do know I am, But that's why

3780
03:15:55,720 --> 03:15:57,080
Speaker 3: I have to wring that out of it. You know,

3781
03:15:57,560 --> 03:16:00,520
Speaker 3: I don't want free shit, this and that, but I

3782
03:16:00,560 --> 03:16:02,400
Speaker 3: don't want appreciate this this in that point the Rock

3783
03:16:02,400 --> 03:16:04,840
Speaker 3: and Roll Hall of Fame. Y'all got to understand something.

3784
03:16:05,200 --> 03:16:10,440
Speaker 3: We did the video about us being denied entry into

3785
03:16:10,520 --> 03:16:13,320
Speaker 3: the place that don't exist. Now when we're allowed to

3786
03:16:13,360 --> 03:16:17,120
Speaker 3: get any motherfucker's man. Jeane Simmons, all these mother fucus

3787
03:16:17,240 --> 03:16:22,959
Speaker 3: is mad. Jane yeah from kids, Yeah, he was mad.

3788
03:16:23,200 --> 03:16:24,959
Speaker 3: He respects us now.

3789
03:16:25,920 --> 03:16:26,000
Speaker 7: But.

3790
03:16:27,920 --> 03:16:30,400
Speaker 2: Well he was making it hating the point that we

3791
03:16:30,520 --> 03:16:34,240
Speaker 2: don't play instruments, so is denied entry into the rock

3792
03:16:34,320 --> 03:16:35,680
Speaker 2: roll of Fame. My thing is this.

3793
03:16:35,800 --> 03:16:41,400
Speaker 3: You gotta understand. I think this is my most valuable award,

3794
03:16:41,520 --> 03:16:47,160
Speaker 3: and let me tell you why, because it's from people.

3795
03:16:47,640 --> 03:16:50,360
Speaker 3: Yeah right that my genre and my culture this and that.

3796
03:16:50,640 --> 03:16:53,920
Speaker 3: But the Rock Roll of Fame is cool, but me

3797
03:16:54,160 --> 03:16:56,160
Speaker 3: having the trophy is not great as this.

3798
03:16:56,879 --> 03:17:00,720
Speaker 2: I don't want people to understand this my victory, our victory,

3799
03:17:01,360 --> 03:17:05,280
Speaker 2: anybody's victory, but more importantly hip hop's victory. Let them

3800
03:17:05,320 --> 03:17:07,800
Speaker 2: all bicker and beef and have the criticism that they

3801
03:17:07,879 --> 03:17:11,720
Speaker 2: say that first of all, the blues is the roots, motherfucker.

3802
03:17:12,000 --> 03:17:13,360
Speaker 3: Everything else is the fruits.

3803
03:17:13,480 --> 03:17:13,920
Speaker 2: Number one.

3804
03:17:14,080 --> 03:17:16,520
Speaker 3: They got it from all the black blues, all this music,

3805
03:17:17,320 --> 03:17:21,040
Speaker 3: alternative hip hop, the black blues artists. And if you

3806
03:17:21,160 --> 03:17:25,840
Speaker 3: sit down with Keith Richard's, sit down with Vick Jaggers,

3807
03:17:25,879 --> 03:17:28,080
Speaker 3: sit down with Steven Tyler Aerosmith, you sit down with

3808
03:17:28,280 --> 03:17:29,879
Speaker 3: Eric Clapton, you got white people.

3809
03:17:29,920 --> 03:17:32,360
Speaker 2: And when you talk about rock music, they mentioned the

3810
03:17:32,440 --> 03:17:35,800
Speaker 2: blues artists, which is why all of these artists and

3811
03:17:35,920 --> 03:17:38,240
Speaker 2: hip hop should know who the fuck supoon these is

3812
03:17:39,120 --> 03:17:41,640
Speaker 2: a jazz motherfucker knows who's Miles Davison culture.

3813
03:17:42,160 --> 03:17:47,120
Speaker 3: But our victory is this Nori and E. The trophy's cool,

3814
03:17:47,560 --> 03:17:50,640
Speaker 3: but I already won when I was just considered. Worry

3815
03:17:50,840 --> 03:17:54,800
Speaker 3: enough for the nomination because that tells you your work

3816
03:17:54,920 --> 03:17:57,760
Speaker 3: is done. So we're looking for it just to be considered.

3817
03:17:57,800 --> 03:17:59,240
Speaker 3: Where don't you got to take her home? But you

3818
03:18:00,360 --> 03:18:04,080
Speaker 3: that's your victory. So they can say it's not a genre,

3819
03:18:04,280 --> 03:18:07,119
Speaker 3: this and that. When we had walked to Sway in Adidas,

3820
03:18:07,560 --> 03:18:11,040
Speaker 3: we do press conferences. Excuse me, run DNJ, Where do

3821
03:18:11,120 --> 03:18:12,960
Speaker 3: you think you'll be in three years? They thought we

3822
03:18:13,120 --> 03:18:14,840
Speaker 3: was a fat, they thought we was old. You know

3823
03:18:14,879 --> 03:18:17,560
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, So it ain't about what other people think,

3824
03:18:17,640 --> 03:18:18,600
Speaker 3: It's about what you know.

3825
03:18:19,560 --> 03:18:23,520
Speaker 2: You know, a great philosopher once said, I don't fuck

3826
03:18:23,560 --> 03:18:28,480
Speaker 2: with people that's talking say I believe, I believe. I believe,

3827
03:18:28,520 --> 03:18:31,879
Speaker 2: you don't hear. And that's what's really crazy about religion.

3828
03:18:32,920 --> 03:18:34,960
Speaker 2: You believe that shit. You could believe. What the fuck

3829
03:18:35,040 --> 03:18:38,160
Speaker 2: you want? One person, I believe it, this is it.

3830
03:18:38,240 --> 03:18:41,040
Speaker 2: I believed it. No, no, no, do you know when

3831
03:18:41,080 --> 03:18:43,680
Speaker 2: I speak, I see, I know that I know this.

3832
03:18:44,240 --> 03:18:46,160
Speaker 2: I know I know. How do you know?

3833
03:18:46,360 --> 03:18:50,280
Speaker 3: Because I experience it? And y'all calling me legendary. I

3834
03:18:50,320 --> 03:18:52,520
Speaker 3: got hit with this about a couple of months ago.

3835
03:18:53,240 --> 03:18:55,720
Speaker 3: I forgot what I was watching and they saying, you know,

3836
03:18:55,920 --> 03:19:01,280
Speaker 3: one person isn't legendary. The people calling legendary don't mean

3837
03:19:01,640 --> 03:19:05,440
Speaker 3: don't know that. They're part of the legend because they

3838
03:19:05,480 --> 03:19:08,840
Speaker 3: were there. It's not about who, it's about who experienced

3839
03:19:08,879 --> 03:19:09,160
Speaker 3: it all.

3840
03:19:09,760 --> 03:19:12,440
Speaker 2: The person that's calling me a lego, gmory, you a

3841
03:19:12,560 --> 03:19:18,000
Speaker 2: fucking legend, they're talking to themselves. The guy said, a

3842
03:19:18,200 --> 03:19:22,600
Speaker 2: legend means the people who were there to experience the

3843
03:19:22,800 --> 03:19:28,720
Speaker 2: legend of Billy the Kid. It only exists because the saloon.

3844
03:19:28,440 --> 03:19:31,480
Speaker 3: Guy saw it and passed it.

3845
03:19:31,879 --> 03:19:34,400
Speaker 4: The original term of that word is passing on that

3846
03:19:34,520 --> 03:19:35,800
Speaker 4: story from someone who saw it.

3847
03:19:38,000 --> 03:19:42,560
Speaker 2: So I always say we are reluctant.

3848
03:19:43,840 --> 03:19:47,520
Speaker 3: And since it's the fiftieth year of hip hop, it

3849
03:19:47,600 --> 03:19:52,360
Speaker 3: should be demanded that we talk about the pioneers before

3850
03:19:52,800 --> 03:19:53,960
Speaker 3: recorded rap.

3851
03:19:54,720 --> 03:19:58,720
Speaker 2: And he mentioned the need to be talked about Hollywood.

3852
03:19:59,040 --> 03:20:03,400
Speaker 2: You're coming out of there, Reich, DJ Hollywood, all of them. Okay,

3853
03:20:03,720 --> 03:20:06,760
Speaker 2: DJ Hollywood, are you so Hollywood? Yeah, we're out of

3854
03:20:06,840 --> 03:20:10,640
Speaker 2: Hollywood when we come. We don't need no more. I

3855
03:20:10,840 --> 03:20:12,960
Speaker 2: was a drug dealer, now I'm a rapper. Story. I

3856
03:20:13,040 --> 03:20:14,560
Speaker 2: was a gangbinger and a rapper.

3857
03:20:15,000 --> 03:20:21,200
Speaker 3: Think about this story from seventy four to seventy I

3858
03:20:21,320 --> 03:20:26,960
Speaker 3: mean from seventy one to seventy four. There are so

3859
03:20:27,120 --> 03:20:31,879
Speaker 3: many stories of our people. And okay, they were DJing

3860
03:20:31,959 --> 03:20:36,160
Speaker 3: and breakdancing and doing graffiti. What was happening economically? What

3861
03:20:36,400 --> 03:20:37,560
Speaker 3: was happening politically?

3862
03:20:37,680 --> 03:20:38,280
Speaker 2: What was happening?

3863
03:20:38,400 --> 03:20:41,080
Speaker 3: We gotta go into Hollywood now and tell all of

3864
03:20:41,160 --> 03:20:42,840
Speaker 3: the stories. You know what I'm saying.

3865
03:20:43,200 --> 03:20:46,800
Speaker 2: And hip hop is fifty years old now we're just

3866
03:20:46,920 --> 03:20:50,560
Speaker 2: getting started. We gotta dominate the airways, we gotta dominate

3867
03:20:50,640 --> 03:20:54,400
Speaker 2: the screen, we gotta dominate literature. Now we can start

3868
03:20:54,560 --> 03:20:57,640
Speaker 2: telling all the other stories that need to be heard.

3869
03:20:57,920 --> 03:21:00,480
Speaker 2: Or else they're going to get lost. Let me ask you,

3870
03:21:00,560 --> 03:21:03,080
Speaker 2: because you was saying this earlier. One of the first

3871
03:21:03,120 --> 03:21:05,680
Speaker 2: people to have a sneaker endorsement, You guys have a

3872
03:21:05,720 --> 03:21:09,840
Speaker 2: stock in Adidas. I think Eric said he's working on

3873
03:21:09,920 --> 03:21:10,760
Speaker 2: that for us right now.

3874
03:21:11,040 --> 03:21:11,720
Speaker 3: That needs.

3875
03:21:13,360 --> 03:21:16,600
Speaker 2: Adidas need to you know, I mean because like you

3876
03:21:16,720 --> 03:21:19,280
Speaker 2: were saying it earlier. You know, curls, no braids, pis

3877
03:21:19,320 --> 03:21:21,560
Speaker 2: he heads still get paid. I'm one of the good

3878
03:21:21,640 --> 03:21:25,320
Speaker 2: reasons why yezies can get made. I'm about to ask

3879
03:21:25,360 --> 03:21:32,320
Speaker 2: you to get he really just does not need to

3880
03:21:32,400 --> 03:21:35,600
Speaker 2: write to check. He gave him promotion in market and

3881
03:21:35,680 --> 03:21:43,119
Speaker 2: we solidified them. See, we took them to lifestyle in fashion.

3882
03:21:43,200 --> 03:21:46,360
Speaker 2: They were just forcing them for what made job? What

3883
03:21:46,440 --> 03:21:48,320
Speaker 2: made job? Because, like you were saying earlier, you was

3884
03:21:48,400 --> 03:21:50,160
Speaker 2: like everyone was wearing Pulmas at the time.

3885
03:21:50,440 --> 03:21:53,840
Speaker 3: What major was an economic decision to select Adidas?

3886
03:21:53,959 --> 03:21:54,880
Speaker 2: What do you mean economic?

3887
03:21:54,959 --> 03:22:00,520
Speaker 3: You mean like right now, no Pumas was dope and

3888
03:22:00,640 --> 03:22:02,760
Speaker 3: that Pumas and Adidas is connected. Do you know the

3889
03:22:02,840 --> 03:22:06,000
Speaker 3: story two brothers of the Dalcin then had an argument,

3890
03:22:06,120 --> 03:22:07,879
Speaker 3: Fuck you, I'm gonna go start my own company, went

3891
03:22:07,879 --> 03:22:10,960
Speaker 3: and started Pumas. He left the fist up. So Pumas

3892
03:22:11,000 --> 03:22:14,040
Speaker 3: Adidas were simultaneously come up in New York City. But

3893
03:22:14,160 --> 03:22:19,600
Speaker 3: here's the problem. Persuade Pumas. Somebody step on and you fucked,

3894
03:22:20,800 --> 03:22:21,760
Speaker 3: uterrain fucked.

3895
03:22:22,120 --> 03:22:25,680
Speaker 2: The leather ones were cool, lasted a little longer than

3896
03:22:25,720 --> 03:22:28,160
Speaker 2: the suede ones, but they would bend and they would

3897
03:22:28,160 --> 03:22:28,880
Speaker 2: start to crack.

3898
03:22:29,840 --> 03:22:32,280
Speaker 3: This is an economic decision. Do I spend my thirty

3899
03:22:32,320 --> 03:22:35,720
Speaker 3: five dollars on the pumas somebody step on in the ring,

3900
03:22:36,040 --> 03:22:37,760
Speaker 3: or do I get to shelter that all I need

3901
03:22:37,840 --> 03:22:39,840
Speaker 3: to do? Why do you think I carry rags at

3902
03:22:39,840 --> 03:22:40,880
Speaker 3: the end of the night when I get back to

3903
03:22:40,959 --> 03:22:42,880
Speaker 3: my room, I just went it and wipe it off.

3904
03:22:42,959 --> 03:22:45,240
Speaker 3: His look brand new. It was the economic descent. They're

3905
03:22:45,280 --> 03:22:47,520
Speaker 3: more durable. I didn't know I was going to get

3906
03:22:47,520 --> 03:22:50,240
Speaker 3: a sneaker deal. So my first pair of Adidas. I

3907
03:22:50,320 --> 03:22:53,640
Speaker 3: don't play ball, so Mosco last three years. So it

3908
03:22:53,720 --> 03:22:55,320
Speaker 3: was an economic decision that we did.

3909
03:22:55,360 --> 03:22:58,200
Speaker 2: In Betas. The shoelaces thing came out because of this

3910
03:22:58,879 --> 03:23:00,680
Speaker 2: hold on. I figure the shoel thing. Let me ask

3911
03:23:00,720 --> 03:23:03,959
Speaker 2: you this one thing. Have you ever owned a pair

3912
03:23:04,000 --> 03:23:10,920
Speaker 2: of Nikes? Yeah? Recently two thousand.

3913
03:23:14,879 --> 03:23:16,279
Speaker 3: And Nelly and put out.

3914
03:23:18,320 --> 03:23:22,240
Speaker 2: Air Force You mean to tell me that you Yeah,

3915
03:23:22,320 --> 03:23:24,640
Speaker 2: what year was that? Well, it's Nelly and jay Z

3916
03:23:24,840 --> 03:23:25,480
Speaker 2: because jay Z.

3917
03:23:25,680 --> 03:23:30,360
Speaker 3: Was infamous for rocking the the for swimming, right, what

3918
03:23:30,520 --> 03:23:33,920
Speaker 3: year was that? So here's the story. I'm in New

3919
03:23:34,040 --> 03:23:38,439
Speaker 3: York City, the foot locker on Broadway by the McDonald

3920
03:23:40,280 --> 03:23:44,920
Speaker 3: ash to place McDonald's Broadway before Houston.

3921
03:23:45,680 --> 03:23:48,600
Speaker 2: There's a foot locker right.

3922
03:23:48,520 --> 03:23:52,000
Speaker 3: By McDonald's were profile records used to. So I forgot

3923
03:23:52,080 --> 03:23:55,560
Speaker 3: I was going to an interview. This was like two thousand.

3924
03:23:58,640 --> 03:24:01,920
Speaker 3: It was when Nelly and when air Force ones was popping.

3925
03:24:02,320 --> 03:24:03,520
Speaker 3: So I go in the foot locker.

3926
03:24:03,640 --> 03:24:06,480
Speaker 2: I got on a blue T shirt, I got on

3927
03:24:06,640 --> 03:24:09,880
Speaker 2: blue Levis, and I got on white on white Adidas.

3928
03:24:10,440 --> 03:24:13,200
Speaker 2: So in my crazy mind, I need Adidas with the

3929
03:24:13,240 --> 03:24:16,240
Speaker 2: blue stripe. I ain't right. And I had a new

3930
03:24:16,720 --> 03:24:20,440
Speaker 2: white on white white superst with the white side. But

3931
03:24:20,840 --> 03:24:24,600
Speaker 2: I'm very old CD. It was hurting me. So I

3932
03:24:24,720 --> 03:24:27,480
Speaker 2: go in the foot locker on Broadway and I go

3933
03:24:27,640 --> 03:24:32,519
Speaker 2: in there. Yeo, I looked everywhere. I need the white Superstars.

3934
03:24:32,760 --> 03:24:35,880
Speaker 2: I thirteen with the blue stripe, go on the back.

3935
03:24:37,240 --> 03:24:39,840
Speaker 2: We don't got them? Did you do twelve? No? Twelve

3936
03:24:39,959 --> 03:24:43,400
Speaker 2: hurt my feet. So over there on the podium, I

3937
03:24:43,520 --> 03:24:46,000
Speaker 2: told this story. I had Adidas basically do. Over there

3938
03:24:46,040 --> 03:24:50,560
Speaker 2: on the podium is an air Force one spinning with

3939
03:24:50,720 --> 03:24:53,800
Speaker 2: a blue stripe and it got lights around it. It's

3940
03:24:53,959 --> 03:25:02,600
Speaker 2: a true story. So I look give me those hmm stopping.

3941
03:25:02,680 --> 03:25:05,760
Speaker 3: Everyone's like, no, no, because you know why because the

3942
03:25:05,879 --> 03:25:06,720
Speaker 3: workers were young.

3943
03:25:06,959 --> 03:25:09,320
Speaker 2: Okay, so they didn't get it. Okay, who the fuck

3944
03:25:09,400 --> 03:25:13,160
Speaker 2: I am? You know what I'm saying. Manager was young too.

3945
03:25:14,080 --> 03:25:15,119
Speaker 2: You know, I walk in foot.

3946
03:25:15,200 --> 03:25:17,280
Speaker 3: I could think everybody gonna know, but like a lot

3947
03:25:17,320 --> 03:25:18,520
Speaker 3: of times, if they're young.

3948
03:25:18,400 --> 03:25:20,040
Speaker 2: They don't know. So I put them on.

3949
03:25:20,280 --> 03:25:22,480
Speaker 3: I walk out the door and I'm walking down. I said,

3950
03:25:22,480 --> 03:25:28,320
Speaker 3: I'm walking a garbage truck. True story. What's up with

3951
03:25:28,400 --> 03:25:34,760
Speaker 3: the fuck? And that's what the driver says. I keep

3952
03:25:34,840 --> 03:25:38,400
Speaker 3: walking right. I get to the corner Broadway and Fourth

3953
03:25:38,440 --> 03:25:40,160
Speaker 3: Street where Tower Records used to be.

3954
03:25:42,040 --> 03:25:45,960
Speaker 2: The bus driver boo d man, Come on, man, that's wrong.

3955
03:25:46,040 --> 03:25:50,600
Speaker 3: Whatever you doing. I get to the corner of Broadway

3956
03:25:50,760 --> 03:25:56,920
Speaker 3: house police officers standing there. I come over and one

3957
03:25:57,879 --> 03:25:59,400
Speaker 3: guess he probably was Puerto Rican.

3958
03:25:59,480 --> 03:26:01,520
Speaker 2: Dude. You I'm saying, you know, they standing there, and

3959
03:26:01,680 --> 03:26:06,000
Speaker 2: be it comes up to It'll be able again. He didn't.

3960
03:26:06,240 --> 03:26:08,960
Speaker 2: He was like, yo, man, what are you doing? Why

3961
03:26:09,040 --> 03:26:14,440
Speaker 2: you got a niks around? I walked back.

3962
03:26:14,520 --> 03:26:15,240
Speaker 3: I want to tell you this.

3963
03:26:16,400 --> 03:26:20,440
Speaker 2: I walked back to the foot lock because you gotta

3964
03:26:20,480 --> 03:26:22,760
Speaker 2: understand I left the white on white send there, okay,

3965
03:26:22,920 --> 03:26:26,360
Speaker 2: ain't one on one, yo, take these sneakers. Give me

3966
03:26:26,440 --> 03:26:28,120
Speaker 2: my white on once. Do you want your money? Know

3967
03:26:28,400 --> 03:26:31,400
Speaker 2: you can give them this summery never will attempt to

3968
03:26:31,480 --> 03:26:34,760
Speaker 2: put on anything else because the people won't let me do.

3969
03:26:34,920 --> 03:26:38,080
Speaker 2: That is such a dope story. That is like in

3970
03:26:38,160 --> 03:26:42,160
Speaker 2: the b Boy, bush Driver, garbage man and police go

3971
03:26:42,320 --> 03:26:47,160
Speaker 2: on for that. I can't win else. I'm married to

3972
03:26:47,280 --> 03:26:51,360
Speaker 2: the motherfuckers for life. So they really got and and

3973
03:26:51,480 --> 03:26:54,160
Speaker 2: you don't pay for Adidas at this When was the

3974
03:26:54,240 --> 03:26:56,520
Speaker 2: last time you paid for a pair of Didas about

3975
03:26:56,560 --> 03:27:01,400
Speaker 2: a week ago? Because you just rush yeah, yeah, called

3976
03:27:01,640 --> 03:27:03,680
Speaker 2: up no, I don't want to go FLA and they

3977
03:27:03,760 --> 03:27:05,440
Speaker 2: tell me no, don't do it. But you know I

3978
03:27:06,600 --> 03:27:08,880
Speaker 2: get them because I want them. So if you had

3979
03:27:08,920 --> 03:27:15,600
Speaker 2: to pick Adidas right now, Parrals or all Easy Superstars,

3980
03:27:17,720 --> 03:27:18,879
Speaker 2: well you ain't with either one of the.

3981
03:27:22,320 --> 03:27:25,480
Speaker 3: I'm not ins like people say running your ce created

3982
03:27:25,560 --> 03:27:28,240
Speaker 3: the sneaker. It was a culture that already exists, but

3983
03:27:28,400 --> 03:27:32,680
Speaker 3: Adidas created it. Everybody told the convention writes about it.

3984
03:27:33,040 --> 03:27:36,800
Speaker 3: It started then, it was there, but we identified it.

3985
03:27:37,200 --> 03:27:41,760
Speaker 2: Okay, So if I'm dressing one run dmc attire and

3986
03:27:42,360 --> 03:27:46,200
Speaker 2: I have on the Swist suit. But I go to

3987
03:27:46,280 --> 03:27:53,080
Speaker 2: the store and it's only Stan Smith's there. Does that

3988
03:27:53,160 --> 03:27:59,400
Speaker 2: complete my mom? No, you gotta you gotta go find

3989
03:27:59,400 --> 03:28:03,440
Speaker 2: a super star if you got to swis Okay. We

3990
03:28:03,640 --> 03:28:05,279
Speaker 2: was in the Stan Smith documentary.

3991
03:28:05,280 --> 03:28:07,520
Speaker 3: I hang with Stan Smith all the time, and even

3992
03:28:07,600 --> 03:28:09,840
Speaker 3: Stan Smith said, run you have seen he's a lifetime

3993
03:28:09,920 --> 03:28:10,840
Speaker 3: deal if he got one.

3994
03:28:10,920 --> 03:28:12,080
Speaker 2: He said that Wow.

3995
03:28:12,400 --> 03:28:15,119
Speaker 3: But the Stan Smith's you gotta go watch the Stan

3996
03:28:15,240 --> 03:28:16,279
Speaker 3: Smith document.

3997
03:28:15,959 --> 03:28:18,119
Speaker 2: How definitely I'm I'm watching it. I get his credit.

3998
03:28:18,360 --> 03:28:21,160
Speaker 2: He had to interview us and it Stan Smith is

3999
03:28:21,360 --> 03:28:27,560
Speaker 2: more of the the casual. It doesn't represent what the

4000
03:28:28,000 --> 03:28:33,760
Speaker 2: superstar represents with the sweatshirt tennis player. Correct, yes, exactly. No,

4001
03:28:33,840 --> 03:28:37,080
Speaker 2: he can't put the stand smiff. That's that's like wearing

4002
03:28:37,200 --> 03:28:42,560
Speaker 2: slippers the grocery store. Yes, it's wrong. He said. It's

4003
03:28:42,560 --> 03:28:47,560
Speaker 2: Miami people. They slip the grocery store. Notice. Everybody was like,

4004
03:28:47,560 --> 03:28:56,040
Speaker 2: wait a minute, the motherfucker isn't wearing cracks now, No,

4005
03:28:56,240 --> 03:28:58,879
Speaker 2: but to stand Smith, it doesn't complete. It doesn't mean

4006
03:28:59,200 --> 03:29:01,240
Speaker 2: you could do it. You can put your idea with

4007
03:29:01,360 --> 03:29:05,039
Speaker 2: Sain Smith, but it's not that thing. Okay, So you've

4008
03:29:05,120 --> 03:29:09,240
Speaker 2: never wore any other athletic uh again Arl? Yeah, I

4009
03:29:09,360 --> 03:29:12,720
Speaker 2: mean I could tell you. I think the year Jay died.

4010
03:29:14,320 --> 03:29:17,720
Speaker 2: What's Awful Awfl's last name, Eric Awful who used to

4011
03:29:17,840 --> 03:29:19,560
Speaker 2: work for yeah, Orval Hall.

4012
03:29:19,480 --> 03:29:21,840
Speaker 3: Used to work for Adidas. When he left Adidas. He

4013
03:29:22,040 --> 03:29:25,240
Speaker 3: was member of the Cocksport Teeth. Yeah yeah, they still popping.

4014
03:29:25,760 --> 03:29:29,439
Speaker 3: Oh really, I got the pictures of me doing the alligator,

4015
03:29:29,720 --> 03:29:32,480
Speaker 3: but the peacock okay, yeah, yeah, yeah I did. I

4016
03:29:32,600 --> 03:29:36,320
Speaker 3: did with the roost. That's across the allegation the rooster.

4017
03:29:37,000 --> 03:29:41,600
Speaker 2: I was repping the cox sportise for like three months when.

4018
03:29:41,480 --> 03:29:48,120
Speaker 3: You playing it, when he was right after that, right

4019
03:29:48,200 --> 03:29:49,920
Speaker 3: after that. But I did it for my friend and

4020
03:29:50,000 --> 03:29:52,280
Speaker 3: stuff like that. But then it didn't feel right. It's

4021
03:29:52,280 --> 03:29:54,920
Speaker 3: in awable, I can't you know. I did it for

4022
03:29:55,120 --> 03:29:57,080
Speaker 3: him so he could get to check and ship like that, but.

4023
03:29:58,560 --> 03:30:00,400
Speaker 2: This didn't feel It's just what me with and on

4024
03:30:00,480 --> 03:30:01,640
Speaker 2: and so.

4025
03:30:01,800 --> 03:30:04,000
Speaker 3: I didn't like he I did the Cocksports team. Oh

4026
03:30:05,000 --> 03:30:11,240
Speaker 3: oh shoot, yeah, damn Back from Hell. We was wearing ewings.

4027
03:30:11,800 --> 03:30:13,360
Speaker 2: I'm about to ask you about it. On the car.

4028
03:30:13,800 --> 03:30:17,160
Speaker 2: We wore ewings for like a whole fucking year. That's

4029
03:30:17,200 --> 03:30:20,880
Speaker 2: when we wore ewings when Ewan was sweating at the bowline. Yeah,

4030
03:30:21,160 --> 03:30:24,080
Speaker 2: we wore ewings when the Ewins first came out, And yeah,

4031
03:30:24,200 --> 03:30:28,240
Speaker 2: we want they on cover. That's crazy. I'm I'm so happy.

4032
03:30:28,280 --> 03:30:31,360
Speaker 2: You know, people don't know anything. Y'all know your assual

4033
03:30:31,400 --> 03:30:33,280
Speaker 2: y'all know about Back from Hell and your abb No, no,

4034
03:30:33,920 --> 03:30:36,080
Speaker 2: let's just keep it. Yes on that album. We got

4035
03:30:36,160 --> 03:30:40,760
Speaker 2: on fucking we got on the fucking Ewings three on

4036
03:30:40,800 --> 03:30:43,280
Speaker 2: the back. Yeah, we was walking draft first game. But

4037
03:30:43,480 --> 03:30:46,039
Speaker 2: see that kind of gets to pass because that's when

4038
03:30:46,080 --> 03:30:49,080
Speaker 2: you and left Adidas started his own sneaker, so it's

4039
03:30:49,160 --> 03:30:51,360
Speaker 2: kind of still in the same family. So it was

4040
03:30:51,440 --> 03:30:53,440
Speaker 2: more of a New York thing. But that was wrong too.

4041
03:30:54,440 --> 03:30:57,280
Speaker 2: My wife always told me she hated them seekers, and

4042
03:30:58,879 --> 03:31:01,080
Speaker 2: my wife was funny, she I'm gonna be Tenue, but

4043
03:31:01,160 --> 03:31:04,440
Speaker 2: the fucking Adida's hard. I'm like, no, I'm doing this

4044
03:31:04,560 --> 03:31:08,280
Speaker 2: for Jay and Patrick Ewing. That's funny. Me wearing Humans

4045
03:31:08,400 --> 03:31:11,360
Speaker 2: was part of my depression. I know, I didn't want to.

4046
03:31:11,320 --> 03:31:12,880
Speaker 3: Wear them, but Jay was like, Yo, we're gonna be

4047
03:31:12,959 --> 03:31:15,400
Speaker 3: a flying and we was.

4048
03:31:15,440 --> 03:31:21,120
Speaker 2: Wearing April wears. Again, we were wearing a Jay wearing

4049
03:31:21,160 --> 03:31:23,560
Speaker 2: April Walker apparel and ship like that. Like, but I

4050
03:31:23,600 --> 03:31:26,119
Speaker 2: should have said that ship is cool for me walk.

4051
03:31:26,000 --> 03:31:28,560
Speaker 3: Away like you know everybody was, man, I didn't want

4052
03:31:28,600 --> 03:31:31,000
Speaker 3: to wear that shit, wear my fucking souper. That was

4053
03:31:31,040 --> 03:31:34,480
Speaker 3: during Down with the King era, I remember, right, yeah exactly.

4054
03:31:34,640 --> 03:31:37,680
Speaker 2: But like, I know, there's a Biggie Smallest line where

4055
03:31:37,720 --> 03:31:39,160
Speaker 2: it says, you know you have to think that hip

4056
03:31:39,160 --> 03:31:41,120
Speaker 2: hop and make it this far, like did you ever

4057
03:31:41,200 --> 03:31:45,080
Speaker 2: think like? Because honestly, like, I'm born in seventy seven.

4058
03:31:45,400 --> 03:31:49,200
Speaker 2: I can't remember where Adidas is not related to you guys.

4059
03:31:49,520 --> 03:31:52,720
Speaker 2: I like, I I'm born in seventy seven, forty six

4060
03:31:52,800 --> 03:31:54,520
Speaker 2: years old. Some people call me an old man, right,

4061
03:31:54,920 --> 03:31:57,039
Speaker 2: But what I'm trying to tell you is I can't

4062
03:31:57,080 --> 03:32:01,480
Speaker 2: remember a time where Adidas wasn't attached to run DMC,

4063
03:32:01,920 --> 03:32:04,880
Speaker 2: you know, at all. So to me, it's like anonymous

4064
03:32:05,120 --> 03:32:08,400
Speaker 2: yeah yeah to me. To me, whenever I see somebody

4065
03:32:08,480 --> 03:32:14,080
Speaker 2: where the suit run, like, I'm not thinking Adidas no,

4066
03:32:14,560 --> 03:32:17,680
Speaker 2: like I think, Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Pip

4067
03:32:17,720 --> 03:32:21,240
Speaker 2: hop for sure, exactly for sure. Yeah you know what

4068
03:32:21,280 --> 03:32:23,840
Speaker 2: I'm saying. I think that's what I've made to my

4069
03:32:24,080 --> 03:32:28,360
Speaker 2: Adidas told my your are our Idias. All the mother

4070
03:32:28,440 --> 03:32:29,960
Speaker 2: shis is yours. These are my that.

4071
03:32:30,160 --> 03:32:33,520
Speaker 3: Oh look at all and every fashion design and every Harlem,

4072
03:32:33,640 --> 03:32:36,720
Speaker 3: I mean every fashion week. All you have to do

4073
03:32:36,840 --> 03:32:40,840
Speaker 3: is put on the run DM track suit with the

4074
03:32:40,840 --> 03:32:42,600
Speaker 3: Adidas and walk down and run ring.

4075
03:32:43,120 --> 03:32:45,240
Speaker 2: It never gets all. You put on a leather blazer

4076
03:32:45,280 --> 03:32:47,520
Speaker 2: with the leather pants like golf and walk down and

4077
03:32:47,600 --> 03:32:51,720
Speaker 2: right right. It's not true? Is it true that that

4078
03:32:52,000 --> 03:32:53,920
Speaker 2: you guys were trying to do a deal with Adidas.

4079
03:32:54,120 --> 03:32:57,320
Speaker 2: But then you guys had a show of Madison Square

4080
03:32:57,360 --> 03:33:00,400
Speaker 2: Garden and I believe you are run and told me

4081
03:33:00,480 --> 03:33:02,039
Speaker 2: take it off, and they held it, take it off

4082
03:33:02,040 --> 03:33:04,600
Speaker 2: and held it up. What had happened was they didn't

4083
03:33:04,680 --> 03:33:09,320
Speaker 2: understand wild. Yeah, they didn't understand. They're checking the weekly

4084
03:33:09,600 --> 03:33:14,280
Speaker 2: sales of product and the shelter was in the closet,

4085
03:33:14,720 --> 03:33:18,000
Speaker 2: in the back of the closet, but they couldn't understand

4086
03:33:18,200 --> 03:33:19,960
Speaker 2: why was out selling everything?

4087
03:33:20,680 --> 03:33:22,960
Speaker 3: And you know how they do the grass, They didn't

4088
03:33:23,000 --> 03:33:25,680
Speaker 3: have enough room on the wall do the progression of

4089
03:33:25,760 --> 03:33:28,560
Speaker 3: the girl for the sailing and sneaker. So word has

4090
03:33:28,640 --> 03:33:30,480
Speaker 3: it that there was an intern there.

4091
03:33:31,959 --> 03:33:32,720
Speaker 2: Dudes, you don't know.

4092
03:33:33,000 --> 03:33:35,879
Speaker 3: Run DMC made a hip hop song about.

4093
03:33:35,640 --> 03:33:38,440
Speaker 2: Your sneakers, So didas is the holdor helo? Look? Come?

4094
03:33:39,160 --> 03:33:41,480
Speaker 2: What the hell is a run DMC? And what the

4095
03:33:41,560 --> 03:33:43,800
Speaker 2: hell is hip hop? So the dude was like, oh,

4096
03:33:43,879 --> 03:33:46,320
Speaker 2: this code it is the shoot. Now you know how

4097
03:33:46,840 --> 03:33:48,240
Speaker 2: exactly it's this true? JB.

4098
03:33:48,440 --> 03:33:50,480
Speaker 3: This this must be true. So they sent the spy.

4099
03:33:52,120 --> 03:33:55,760
Speaker 3: His name was Angelo Anastasio. It was the head guy

4100
03:33:56,000 --> 03:33:58,520
Speaker 3: of Adidas America. Like they have a head dude over

4101
03:33:58,879 --> 03:34:02,880
Speaker 3: out in La So he calls the office Snooper and

4102
03:34:02,920 --> 03:34:04,560
Speaker 3: you know, I want to come to the Rundem Sea show.

4103
03:34:04,640 --> 03:34:07,000
Speaker 3: Can I get some tickets? Come the show? So he

4104
03:34:07,120 --> 03:34:10,279
Speaker 3: comes to the show. It's the Raising Hell and Madison

4105
03:34:10,320 --> 03:34:13,879
Speaker 3: Square Garden. We seven records and runs. Run says, take

4106
03:34:13,959 --> 03:34:16,880
Speaker 3: it off, mee, I take it off, hold it up,

4107
03:34:16,959 --> 03:34:19,720
Speaker 3: I hold it up twenty nine thousand. I think, what's

4108
03:34:19,720 --> 03:34:23,640
Speaker 3: the capacity to guard twenty nine thousand people who hold up.

4109
03:34:23,600 --> 03:34:27,320
Speaker 2: The brand new Adidas? And you know, looks goes running.

4110
03:34:27,480 --> 03:34:32,200
Speaker 3: It's you no Instagram, no twists, yep and no said yeah,

4111
03:34:32,400 --> 03:34:33,720
Speaker 3: they give us a million dollar deal.

4112
03:34:33,800 --> 03:34:40,000
Speaker 2: We got that. Yeah. That we put out the Cadillacs,

4113
03:34:40,040 --> 03:34:42,960
Speaker 2: El Dorado and the fleet was it was the first time,

4114
03:34:43,080 --> 03:34:45,240
Speaker 2: in addition to the run DM Sea Show Toe, it

4115
03:34:45,400 --> 03:34:47,400
Speaker 2: was the first time in the history of the company

4116
03:34:47,680 --> 03:34:51,000
Speaker 2: that they changed the color of the box because.

4117
03:34:50,720 --> 03:34:52,600
Speaker 3: The box was always like blue. When we put out

4118
03:34:52,640 --> 03:34:57,680
Speaker 3: the Eldorado, Fleetwood and the the Felder Lot of Fleetwood

4119
03:34:57,959 --> 03:35:02,240
Speaker 3: in the Sedannahville, they made the black box all black

4120
03:35:02,280 --> 03:35:02,640
Speaker 3: box with.

4121
03:35:02,680 --> 03:35:05,120
Speaker 2: The rendym C logo. Was the first time in the

4122
03:35:05,200 --> 03:35:11,160
Speaker 2: history of the country company. So game changing. We changed fashion,

4123
03:35:11,360 --> 03:35:17,720
Speaker 2: we change marketing, we change advertising, we change music. Like

4124
03:35:17,840 --> 03:35:21,200
Speaker 2: they changed the culture completely. What's left for you to do?

4125
03:35:23,080 --> 03:35:24,959
Speaker 3: Change Hollywood? That's my next mission.

4126
03:35:25,000 --> 03:35:27,560
Speaker 2: I don't want to everybody. I get calls all the

4127
03:35:27,760 --> 03:35:30,959
Speaker 2: fucking time about p I don't want to be an actor,

4128
03:35:31,560 --> 03:35:32,680
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. I don't want to. I

4129
03:35:32,760 --> 03:35:33,960
Speaker 2: want to get behind the camera.

4130
03:35:34,360 --> 03:35:36,640
Speaker 3: I want to sign. I want to sign.

4131
03:35:36,720 --> 03:35:38,960
Speaker 2: I want to. I want us to stop telling the

4132
03:35:39,080 --> 03:35:41,680
Speaker 2: same stories. Hip hop has a habit that's telling the

4133
03:35:41,720 --> 03:35:45,119
Speaker 2: same stories, but Hollywood does too. They just tell Cinderella

4134
03:35:45,160 --> 03:35:47,680
Speaker 2: over and over and over and over. There's news, there's

4135
03:35:47,760 --> 03:35:52,480
Speaker 2: this new princesses and kings and adventures and entrepreneurs and.

4136
03:35:53,280 --> 03:35:58,920
Speaker 3: School lasst education, educational situations to tell. So what I

4137
03:35:59,080 --> 03:36:01,039
Speaker 3: want to do in my pos this and especially since

4138
03:36:01,080 --> 03:36:05,160
Speaker 3: I'm here, I could have condmmenced suicide. I'm not shot

4139
03:36:05,280 --> 03:36:08,440
Speaker 3: in OD. I didn't kill myself. I ain't get shot.

4140
03:36:08,680 --> 03:36:11,080
Speaker 3: So I feel that I have a responsibility. So what's

4141
03:36:11,160 --> 03:36:14,040
Speaker 3: left for me to do is take this and make

4142
03:36:14,160 --> 03:36:18,840
Speaker 3: this cartoons in live action films, just like my idol

4143
03:36:18,920 --> 03:36:21,320
Speaker 3: Spider Man and the Hawk and stuff like that. So

4144
03:36:21,400 --> 03:36:23,400
Speaker 3: it's fifty years of hip hop, were just getting started.

4145
03:36:23,440 --> 03:36:26,519
Speaker 3: We have a lot of we have a lot of creativity.

4146
03:36:26,840 --> 03:36:28,680
Speaker 3: So I want to be part just like I was

4147
03:36:28,800 --> 03:36:31,360
Speaker 3: here to do the records, do the sneaker deals, this

4148
03:36:31,440 --> 03:36:32,840
Speaker 3: and that. I said, I'm like, man, if I could

4149
03:36:32,879 --> 03:36:34,920
Speaker 3: do that, I could do the same thing in Hollywood.

4150
03:36:35,360 --> 03:36:37,160
Speaker 3: And the good thing about me is I can call

4151
03:36:37,240 --> 03:36:38,240
Speaker 3: and get those meetings.

4152
03:36:38,879 --> 03:36:40,320
Speaker 2: But I don't want to go into meetings and have

4153
03:36:40,440 --> 03:36:42,480
Speaker 2: Hollywood sain't No, it'd be better if you do.

4154
03:36:42,600 --> 03:36:44,600
Speaker 3: To know, we don't have to be negroes and they

4155
03:36:44,800 --> 03:36:46,840
Speaker 3: have to be Gangbang. There could be so much other

4156
03:36:47,000 --> 03:36:52,000
Speaker 3: stories to tell, like who would have thought this Catholic

4157
03:36:52,240 --> 03:36:58,360
Speaker 3: school comic, reading classic classes, wearing nerd, We'll grow up

4158
03:36:58,520 --> 03:37:00,880
Speaker 3: not to be just a part of hip hop, but

4159
03:37:01,080 --> 03:37:04,320
Speaker 3: one of the kings of hip hop, pillas who was

4160
03:37:04,600 --> 03:37:14,000
Speaker 3: able to change every associated genre or entity that we

4161
03:37:14,240 --> 03:37:18,080
Speaker 3: came in to connect with. Who whatever thought about that?

4162
03:37:18,320 --> 03:37:19,440
Speaker 3: So those are the stories that.

4163
03:37:19,879 --> 03:37:24,480
Speaker 2: Which changed the world exactly. I mean, Bust has said it. Man,

4164
03:37:24,560 --> 03:37:27,840
Speaker 2: these motherfuckers didn't just change music. They changed you know,

4165
03:37:28,000 --> 03:37:28,320
Speaker 2: buss it.

4166
03:37:28,600 --> 03:37:31,039
Speaker 3: They changed everything absolutely, you know.

4167
03:37:31,040 --> 03:37:31,440
Speaker 2: What I'm saying.

4168
03:37:31,480 --> 03:37:34,160
Speaker 3: And the beautiful thing Kaz always says that hip hop

4169
03:37:34,280 --> 03:37:39,560
Speaker 3: didn't really create anything, wereated everything. So it's that we're

4170
03:37:39,600 --> 03:37:42,760
Speaker 3: not what I don't want us to get and especially

4171
03:37:42,800 --> 03:37:46,040
Speaker 3: don't want this generation that's looking at the celebration. Don't

4172
03:37:46,120 --> 03:37:51,879
Speaker 3: get caught up in the fiftieth celebration being over, because

4173
03:37:52,160 --> 03:37:56,600
Speaker 3: if we change music and we changed fashion, that means

4174
03:37:56,680 --> 03:38:00,240
Speaker 3: we can change. When we say jam message, everything that

4175
03:38:00,320 --> 03:38:03,320
Speaker 3: he touched turns the goal, Everything that we touch turns

4176
03:38:03,360 --> 03:38:03,680
Speaker 3: the goal.

4177
03:38:04,480 --> 03:38:06,360
Speaker 2: So like when you said I really meant that, I

4178
03:38:06,480 --> 03:38:08,560
Speaker 2: was like, Yo, this is like me coming on soul train.

4179
03:38:09,520 --> 03:38:11,320
Speaker 2: You know, I went on soul train, of course.

4180
03:38:11,440 --> 03:38:14,360
Speaker 3: But for me coming here, this is me being here

4181
03:38:15,080 --> 03:38:18,879
Speaker 3: with you know, you guys are my fucking Mike Douglass,

4182
03:38:19,040 --> 03:38:20,119
Speaker 3: is Merv Griffins.

4183
03:38:20,840 --> 03:38:26,240
Speaker 2: You'all guys are min Johnny Cars got so the kids,

4184
03:38:26,360 --> 03:38:28,480
Speaker 2: the kids need to see that. Let me ask you

4185
03:38:28,560 --> 03:38:31,200
Speaker 2: something because you said it earlier. I think you said

4186
03:38:31,200 --> 03:38:35,880
Speaker 2: your father said it. You said, why would anybody hurt Jay?

4187
03:38:36,080 --> 03:38:39,120
Speaker 2: Right me, you know, as a younger, and you know,

4188
03:38:40,440 --> 03:38:43,160
Speaker 2: I didn't understand that at all, Like like I couldn't

4189
03:38:44,080 --> 03:38:46,760
Speaker 2: comprehend it. I couldn't comprehend it. I couldn't understand. I

4190
03:38:46,800 --> 03:38:50,520
Speaker 2: couldn't identify because every time I seen Jay, it was

4191
03:38:50,600 --> 03:38:54,879
Speaker 2: just always love. It's like, especially in Queens. Happened in Queens,

4192
03:38:55,320 --> 03:38:57,720
Speaker 2: it was like very shocking to me, and especially in

4193
03:38:57,840 --> 03:39:00,720
Speaker 2: his studio, you know, I mean, and the jam Master

4194
03:39:00,840 --> 03:39:05,080
Speaker 2: J documentary Who Killed jam Master J? On Netflix? And

4195
03:39:05,160 --> 03:39:07,119
Speaker 2: I'm still kind of confused, you know what I'm saying.

4196
03:39:07,240 --> 03:39:09,360
Speaker 2: So I just want to ask your perspective for that,

4197
03:39:09,520 --> 03:39:11,360
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Or that night when you

4198
03:39:11,440 --> 03:39:13,640
Speaker 2: got the phone call, right when.

4199
03:39:13,120 --> 03:39:17,600
Speaker 3: It first happened. First thing that happened was ten o'clock

4200
03:39:17,680 --> 03:39:23,160
Speaker 3: news Channel nine, Channel five and eleven not channel CBS,

4201
03:39:23,280 --> 03:39:27,480
Speaker 3: ABC and eleven ten o'clock news Channel five, Channel nine,

4202
03:39:28,040 --> 03:39:33,600
Speaker 3: Channel eleven breaking news ham Master j Shine. The study consumed.

4203
03:39:33,640 --> 03:39:37,080
Speaker 2: Now when I'm hearing this, I'm going, okay, somebody did

4204
03:39:37,160 --> 03:39:41,560
Speaker 2: get shot, right, but it's not j So Hour goes

4205
03:39:41,640 --> 03:39:44,480
Speaker 2: by and his what's crazy. The next day we were

4206
03:39:44,560 --> 03:39:47,160
Speaker 2: supposed to go play beaver and and j was supposed

4207
03:39:47,200 --> 03:39:52,640
Speaker 2: to go perform at the Washington Wizards halftime basketball some

4208
03:39:52,920 --> 03:39:57,240
Speaker 2: package when Jordan was on. I don't know if no, no,

4209
03:39:57,480 --> 03:39:59,920
Speaker 2: this was after Jordan. Okay, cool, we're supposed to play halftime,

4210
03:40:00,080 --> 03:40:04,640
Speaker 2: remember it, so eleven o'clock news Channel two, Channel four,

4211
03:40:04,800 --> 03:40:05,400
Speaker 2: Channel seven.

4212
03:40:05,480 --> 03:40:08,000
Speaker 3: So now by this time, I'm seeing the pictures of

4213
03:40:08,080 --> 03:40:12,680
Speaker 3: the body bag being and then again all right, somebody

4214
03:40:12,760 --> 03:40:16,840
Speaker 3: ours Hollie, fuck, somebody dig get shot, but it's not Jay.

4215
03:40:18,280 --> 03:40:24,480
Speaker 2: Eric's daughter Erica calls me crying, Hey, coot, j whatever woe.

4216
03:40:24,600 --> 03:40:25,640
Speaker 2: This might be serious.

4217
03:40:26,200 --> 03:40:28,920
Speaker 3: I tell my wife. My wife goes sixth door. We

4218
03:40:29,080 --> 03:40:31,040
Speaker 3: give my son, who said with us he was a

4219
03:40:31,080 --> 03:40:33,720
Speaker 3: little baby, to the babysitter. So we jump in the

4220
03:40:33,800 --> 03:40:38,440
Speaker 3: car and we jet to Queen's. We're living in Jersey

4221
03:40:38,520 --> 03:40:39,920
Speaker 3: right now. Jet to Queens.

4222
03:40:40,800 --> 03:40:43,960
Speaker 2: I pull up to the studio, which was about a

4223
03:40:43,959 --> 03:40:47,600
Speaker 2: one hundred and sixteen ninth Street bus terminal by the

4224
03:40:48,680 --> 03:40:51,080
Speaker 2: New York Public Library on the other side and the

4225
03:40:51,120 --> 03:40:53,480
Speaker 2: bus seven er. So I pull up. This is when

4226
03:40:53,480 --> 03:40:55,200
Speaker 2: I know it was reality. I get out the car.

4227
03:40:55,959 --> 03:41:00,680
Speaker 2: I see Chuck Deer public enemy in Ed Lover cry

4228
03:41:01,920 --> 03:41:04,720
Speaker 2: and I know it was for real. So that's it.

4229
03:41:04,840 --> 03:41:07,480
Speaker 3: I get out the car, see Ed Luck crying like this,

4230
03:41:08,120 --> 03:41:11,760
Speaker 3: Chuck d crying. All happened so fast, So police come

4231
03:41:11,879 --> 03:41:14,120
Speaker 3: grab me. The priestcint is right across the street.

4232
03:41:14,600 --> 03:41:16,040
Speaker 2: Take me to the priests and sit me down and

4233
03:41:16,320 --> 03:41:18,360
Speaker 2: asked me all of these questions this, and then boom

4234
03:41:18,560 --> 03:41:20,720
Speaker 2: if you was there? Boom boom asked if it's there,

4235
03:41:20,800 --> 03:41:23,440
Speaker 2: and also did you see this? What was they like

4236
03:41:23,560 --> 03:41:25,320
Speaker 2: this in boombe I don't know. We toured this and

4237
03:41:25,360 --> 03:41:28,280
Speaker 2: the boom just a whar wind. So that that's that's

4238
03:41:28,360 --> 03:41:30,720
Speaker 2: how I found out. And then as time went on,

4239
03:41:32,240 --> 03:41:37,080
Speaker 2: I remember might have been on my Space or something,

4240
03:41:37,440 --> 03:41:39,600
Speaker 2: but somewhere you know, it was coming up.

4241
03:41:39,680 --> 03:41:43,440
Speaker 3: Everybody was disappointed, whatever, and then I just nonchalantly and

4242
03:41:43,560 --> 03:41:48,240
Speaker 3: innestly innocently posted I'm not mad at the guy that

4243
03:41:48,280 --> 03:41:51,000
Speaker 3: shot Jay should have never did that.

4244
03:41:52,440 --> 03:41:56,080
Speaker 2: Man, the whole world cursed me like like crazy. So

4245
03:41:56,160 --> 03:41:58,960
Speaker 2: I said, okay, let me, let let me elaborate on

4246
03:41:59,080 --> 03:42:01,760
Speaker 2: what I just said. I'm not mad at the guy

4247
03:42:01,840 --> 03:42:06,040
Speaker 2: that shot Jay. The guy that shot J personally is

4248
03:42:06,160 --> 03:42:09,000
Speaker 2: it my problem and that's not my fight. My struggle

4249
03:42:09,320 --> 03:42:13,640
Speaker 2: and people understood this. My struggle is the mindset that

4250
03:42:13,720 --> 03:42:17,760
Speaker 2: would cause an individual to do those things. And not

4251
03:42:17,920 --> 03:42:22,199
Speaker 2: only for jam Master J, but for Park, for Big

4252
03:42:22,680 --> 03:42:26,680
Speaker 2: Scotland Rock, for Freaky Tie, but not only for them.

4253
03:42:26,959 --> 03:42:28,920
Speaker 2: What about the jam Master J, Parks and bigs that

4254
03:42:28,920 --> 03:42:32,360
Speaker 2: are getting shot in our communities all day. So we

4255
03:42:32,520 --> 03:42:36,200
Speaker 2: as hip hop we got an assignment and then people, okay,

4256
03:42:36,240 --> 03:42:38,520
Speaker 2: we underste what you said. I know I feel about that,

4257
03:42:38,680 --> 03:42:40,760
Speaker 2: about the god and stuff like that, but that's not

4258
03:42:40,920 --> 03:42:43,400
Speaker 2: my fight. It's not the individual, because we have the

4259
03:42:43,640 --> 03:42:46,400
Speaker 2: ability to change those persectives.

4260
03:42:46,600 --> 03:42:48,480
Speaker 3: But speaking on that, it is what it is. The

4261
03:42:48,600 --> 03:42:51,680
Speaker 3: dudes they did or whatever they did, they did what

4262
03:42:51,800 --> 03:42:57,320
Speaker 3: he did. But what hurts me is this Jay could

4263
03:42:57,360 --> 03:43:01,000
Speaker 3: have had his studio in Manhattan and around the corner

4264
03:43:01,080 --> 03:43:03,840
Speaker 3: from Diddy's. He can had a studio in La He

4265
03:43:03,959 --> 03:43:07,680
Speaker 3: chose to put his studio, five minutes from where he

4266
03:43:07,959 --> 03:43:08,480
Speaker 3: came from.

4267
03:43:08,959 --> 03:43:12,480
Speaker 2: He opened a door to let everybody else in and

4268
03:43:12,560 --> 03:43:13,400
Speaker 2: you could talk to people.

4269
03:43:13,480 --> 03:43:16,760
Speaker 3: Jay was like if you can't replicand the secretary, he

4270
03:43:16,959 --> 03:43:20,120
Speaker 3: was a mass of creating opportunities, you know. And then

4271
03:43:20,160 --> 03:43:24,160
Speaker 3: the whole thing was, Look, all my friends are even

4272
03:43:24,240 --> 03:43:27,560
Speaker 3: dead in jail or they stick up kids. And then

4273
03:43:27,640 --> 03:43:31,880
Speaker 3: drug dealers. So I'm connected to drug dealers and I

4274
03:43:31,959 --> 03:43:34,240
Speaker 3: know a lot of it. Am I doing dally Joe?

4275
03:43:34,400 --> 03:43:35,080
Speaker 3: Am I around it?

4276
03:43:35,160 --> 03:43:37,160
Speaker 2: Am I involved through those transactions? No?

4277
03:43:37,640 --> 03:43:40,400
Speaker 3: But all my friends are drug deals. But Jay was

4278
03:43:40,640 --> 03:43:44,640
Speaker 3: five minutes from where he came from. He opened that

4279
03:43:44,720 --> 03:43:47,000
Speaker 3: door for the soul. It's a shame that the very

4280
03:43:47,120 --> 03:43:51,040
Speaker 3: thing Jay escaped from is the very thing that killed

4281
03:43:51,080 --> 03:43:54,480
Speaker 3: him because he was trying to deliver other people's from.

4282
03:43:55,320 --> 03:43:57,520
Speaker 3: So I'm still it's still confused to me. I only

4283
03:43:57,560 --> 03:43:59,640
Speaker 3: get reminded about it when people bring it up.

4284
03:44:00,080 --> 03:44:01,840
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I'm like, damn, that shit

4285
03:44:01,959 --> 03:44:05,120
Speaker 2: is crazy. But even the ogs, like everybody crossed the

4286
03:44:05,160 --> 03:44:07,000
Speaker 2: board was like, we don't care what that shit was.

4287
03:44:07,040 --> 03:44:09,879
Speaker 2: You don't shoot j That's true, you know what I'm saying.

4288
03:44:09,920 --> 03:44:12,840
Speaker 2: And I was like, Wow, that's like that, you know, so,

4289
03:44:13,280 --> 03:44:15,400
Speaker 2: and then and and and for years it was like

4290
03:44:15,480 --> 03:44:18,640
Speaker 2: we didn't see Run DMC together, right, was that like

4291
03:44:18,720 --> 03:44:22,000
Speaker 2: the major reason? Yes, all, I said, we can't be

4292
03:44:22,200 --> 03:44:25,080
Speaker 2: the only reason, and I said that run DMC, we

4293
03:44:25,240 --> 03:44:28,480
Speaker 2: can't replace our dramma. But then Tom went on, and

4294
03:44:28,560 --> 03:44:33,040
Speaker 2: then we started getting requests to do festivals, so we

4295
03:44:33,240 --> 03:44:37,160
Speaker 2: was like, okay, but even now, I mean, you was

4296
03:44:37,320 --> 03:44:40,720
Speaker 2: fortunate and everybody was fortunate to see the show at

4297
03:44:40,920 --> 03:44:46,040
Speaker 2: Yankee Statement because we looked great, sounded great, and it

4298
03:44:46,240 --> 03:44:49,400
Speaker 2: was flawless, you know what I'm saying. But probably leading

4299
03:44:49,480 --> 03:44:50,959
Speaker 2: up to that stay even at.

4300
03:44:50,920 --> 03:44:55,039
Speaker 3: That show, you're not seeing Run DMC as Run DMC

4301
03:44:55,200 --> 03:44:58,360
Speaker 3: j message. It's seeing the two members formally of that

4302
03:44:58,560 --> 03:45:01,160
Speaker 3: great band. It's like, what I'm trying to say is

4303
03:45:01,400 --> 03:45:04,600
Speaker 3: it's still in me phenomenal. It's like seeing Paul McCartney

4304
03:45:04,680 --> 03:45:07,680
Speaker 3: and Ringo. It's just not the same, right, It's not

4305
03:45:08,080 --> 03:45:11,080
Speaker 3: run It's running d m C, but it's not Run DMC.

4306
03:45:11,320 --> 03:45:13,040
Speaker 2: And then who was the DJ for y'all that night?

4307
03:45:13,600 --> 03:45:16,360
Speaker 2: We had two DJs, DJ Kellie Champ which is Mine DJ,

4308
03:45:16,760 --> 03:45:19,320
Speaker 2: and DJ Ruckets which is Runs DJ. Because when we

4309
03:45:19,400 --> 03:45:22,720
Speaker 2: came back together. We had to compromise. Yeah, you ain't usual.

4310
03:45:22,840 --> 03:45:24,080
Speaker 2: I'm not just using your DJ.

4311
03:45:24,600 --> 03:45:28,640
Speaker 3: You a little kids shit you us, so we both

4312
03:45:28,720 --> 03:45:31,680
Speaker 3: use our DC so everybody could shine, but y'all on

4313
03:45:31,760 --> 03:45:34,880
Speaker 3: the same records. So don't get that part because and

4314
03:45:35,040 --> 03:45:35,360
Speaker 3: when it.

4315
03:45:35,440 --> 03:45:37,640
Speaker 2: Goes to your part, your DJ goes on your party,

4316
03:45:38,760 --> 03:45:42,880
Speaker 2: they alternate. That'd be crazy.

4317
03:45:44,000 --> 03:45:51,000
Speaker 3: It's crazy, that's really Yeah, that's Fay taking it.

4318
03:45:51,480 --> 03:45:52,840
Speaker 2: But it's like.

4319
03:45:54,840 --> 03:45:58,960
Speaker 3: Now, if Run DMC was to record again, if we

4320
03:45:59,200 --> 03:46:02,720
Speaker 3: was to record again, we couldn't record as run DMC.

4321
03:46:04,920 --> 03:46:08,039
Speaker 3: Why because when in the overall picture of of.

4322
03:46:10,160 --> 03:46:15,520
Speaker 2: Music, musical ship, musicianship, in the overall picture of musicianship,

4323
03:46:15,879 --> 03:46:18,680
Speaker 2: what we would do is we form a new band.

4324
03:46:19,400 --> 03:46:21,800
Speaker 2: When you look at I said, when you look at

4325
03:46:21,840 --> 03:46:26,120
Speaker 2: Audio Slave, they they was audio Slave, and then there

4326
03:46:26,320 --> 03:46:27,840
Speaker 2: was what's the other band? They became.

4327
03:46:28,120 --> 03:46:33,960
Speaker 3: Oh you look at perfect example David Grold and you

4328
03:46:34,000 --> 03:46:35,879
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. So you have bands who changed

4329
03:46:35,920 --> 03:46:38,360
Speaker 3: the name with some of the original members. You know

4330
03:46:38,360 --> 03:46:39,760
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So me and Ron would have to

4331
03:46:39,840 --> 03:46:44,120
Speaker 3: figure out what we're gonna call this recording entity because

4332
03:46:44,160 --> 03:46:45,400
Speaker 3: we can't come as you Run DMC.

4333
03:46:46,040 --> 03:46:50,640
Speaker 2: It'll be running DMC and the champs with feature. You

4334
03:46:50,680 --> 03:46:52,280
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, we would have to give you

4335
03:46:52,400 --> 03:46:55,560
Speaker 2: another when you see us now that's run in DMC

4336
03:46:55,840 --> 03:47:00,680
Speaker 2: doing run DMC. But for us to record, no, because

4337
03:47:00,720 --> 03:47:04,520
Speaker 2: that it wouldn't tarnish that ship because we dope anyway.

4338
03:47:04,879 --> 03:47:09,760
Speaker 3: But it's more respect right to form a new band,

4339
03:47:09,920 --> 03:47:13,120
Speaker 3: which is really kind of cool to sound Garden. It

4340
03:47:13,240 --> 03:47:16,720
Speaker 3: was Soundgarden and Audio'll say you morph into if me

4341
03:47:16,840 --> 03:47:19,440
Speaker 3: and Run say we're going to record now. We said

4342
03:47:19,480 --> 03:47:23,200
Speaker 3: it was the last show at at Yankee Stadium. It's

4343
03:47:23,240 --> 03:47:26,080
Speaker 3: the last show. Everybody ever said you got the last

4344
03:47:26,120 --> 03:47:29,600
Speaker 3: show in New York and Yankee Stadium. We can do, Oh,

4345
03:47:29,760 --> 03:47:32,840
Speaker 3: run DMC's last show in l A right, we can

4346
03:47:32,920 --> 03:47:36,640
Speaker 3: do run DMC's last show. Ran into it if if

4347
03:47:36,720 --> 03:47:40,680
Speaker 3: that comes up, but forced to record, and for me,

4348
03:47:40,959 --> 03:47:44,080
Speaker 3: for my adventurous creative spirit, I would want to do

4349
03:47:44,160 --> 03:47:46,280
Speaker 3: it under a new name. You know what I'm saying.

4350
03:47:46,480 --> 03:47:47,960
Speaker 3: Your room we're gonna be angel Dust.

4351
03:47:51,000 --> 03:47:53,560
Speaker 4: But the last room, the last tour of doing all

4352
03:47:53,600 --> 03:47:56,120
Speaker 4: the last shows would be kind of ill everybody.

4353
03:47:56,560 --> 03:48:00,120
Speaker 2: How about a versus huh? How about a versus with

4354
03:48:00,360 --> 03:48:04,000
Speaker 2: who would bring DMC verse against the verse. Yeah, the verses, oh,

4355
03:48:04,080 --> 03:48:11,959
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know public enemy to.

4356
03:48:12,000 --> 03:48:13,760
Speaker 3: BCS, don't want to do definitely don't want to do

4357
03:48:13,840 --> 03:48:16,280
Speaker 3: something because they can't do it without m C. A See,

4358
03:48:16,320 --> 03:48:17,560
Speaker 3: I was a little that me and Ron could do

4359
03:48:17,600 --> 03:48:20,800
Speaker 3: it because Jay wasn't a MC, right, you know what

4360
03:48:20,840 --> 03:48:24,440
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like they like soul Oh, shout out to

4361
03:48:24,520 --> 03:48:27,920
Speaker 3: true By. I got a record on Spotify and you

4362
03:48:28,120 --> 03:48:31,240
Speaker 3: two called Kingdom come where. I pay my respects to

4363
03:48:31,360 --> 03:48:34,160
Speaker 3: true By because every time I was around true By,

4364
03:48:34,200 --> 03:48:36,119
Speaker 3: he just looked at me like I was the greatest

4365
03:48:36,160 --> 03:48:38,720
Speaker 3: thing in the world. And he was like, I mean,

4366
03:48:38,920 --> 03:48:40,600
Speaker 3: like really and he would tell me, oh no that

4367
03:48:40,760 --> 03:48:43,600
Speaker 3: you don't know the like you don't know like I

4368
03:48:43,879 --> 03:48:48,039
Speaker 3: loved him like I love true like recip.

4369
03:48:49,520 --> 03:48:58,160
Speaker 2: So. But in a versus d P M, d M, yeah,

4370
03:48:58,320 --> 03:49:01,320
Speaker 2: they but yeah, a little too hard. We would have

4371
03:49:01,400 --> 03:49:03,680
Speaker 2: to run DMC. We would have to go up against

4372
03:49:03,800 --> 03:49:09,680
Speaker 2: like Taylor Swift for someone. You know, I'm just saying

4373
03:49:09,680 --> 03:49:12,360
Speaker 2: that we would run the MC who would run DMC

4374
03:49:12,480 --> 03:49:17,160
Speaker 2: in a versus Because you gotta understand it, Doug running

4375
03:49:17,240 --> 03:49:21,040
Speaker 2: m C is just a little unique because a lot

4376
03:49:21,200 --> 03:49:24,240
Speaker 2: nique you know, you know, if yeah, a lot unique

4377
03:49:24,280 --> 03:49:27,520
Speaker 2: because one of the things that we always did, Pete

4378
03:49:27,640 --> 03:49:30,680
Speaker 2: Rock did it in a way that it's fucking you know,

4379
03:49:30,920 --> 03:49:33,040
Speaker 2: they said we were the Kings, but Pete Rock made

4380
03:49:33,080 --> 03:49:35,560
Speaker 2: the world bout. But one of the things that would

4381
03:49:35,640 --> 03:49:37,880
Speaker 2: always pushed me and run off now and I get

4382
03:49:37,960 --> 03:49:41,960
Speaker 2: upseted about now is we would always get those instances

4383
03:49:42,120 --> 03:49:44,720
Speaker 2: where people is like running, Sea's already falling off.

4384
03:49:45,160 --> 03:49:48,360
Speaker 3: So the first time that they started thinking that we did,

4385
03:49:48,480 --> 03:49:51,520
Speaker 3: here we go to let motherfuckers know it ain't about

4386
03:49:51,800 --> 03:49:54,600
Speaker 3: these fucking wrecords in the studio, Dre drop Big B.

4387
03:49:55,200 --> 03:49:57,120
Speaker 3: You know, I'm saying I'm from Hollis Queen's in the

4388
03:49:57,200 --> 03:49:59,760
Speaker 3: games we play, see here we go. Listen, Here we

4389
03:49:59,800 --> 03:50:02,160
Speaker 3: go right now from start and it's the one of

4390
03:50:02,240 --> 03:50:07,680
Speaker 3: the most perfected performances of hip hop.

4391
03:50:08,240 --> 03:50:12,560
Speaker 2: DJ ain't in bars. Turn your fucking record off, motherfucking

4392
03:50:12,640 --> 03:50:14,400
Speaker 2: Let's go down to the park and see you can

4393
03:50:14,480 --> 03:50:16,560
Speaker 2: perform for a hour. A lot of motherfuckers can't do that,

4394
03:50:16,920 --> 03:50:20,080
Speaker 2: So here we go. Then, if you remember y'all forgot.

4395
03:50:21,360 --> 03:50:25,520
Speaker 3: Red Men and Dayla Sol shout out to them when

4396
03:50:25,560 --> 03:50:29,040
Speaker 3: they did party people Loom killing your dreams. Have me

4397
03:50:29,120 --> 03:50:31,960
Speaker 3: and run made that ship because motherfuckers was popping ship

4398
03:50:32,080 --> 03:50:36,520
Speaker 3: thinking that we ain't dope. Motherfucker dope. I'm dope eternally.

4399
03:50:36,800 --> 03:50:40,200
Speaker 3: So we did party. People, your dreams have now been fulfilled.

4400
03:50:40,520 --> 03:50:44,080
Speaker 3: Get out your seat and let's get ill. That's right, y'all.

4401
03:50:44,320 --> 03:50:46,880
Speaker 3: We're not just rough. We're more than tough. And when

4402
03:50:46,920 --> 03:50:51,640
Speaker 3: it comes to run, but then we got enough. We're

4403
03:50:51,680 --> 03:50:53,960
Speaker 3: ill with chill with scar so dope.

4404
03:50:54,080 --> 03:50:56,440
Speaker 2: That just suit me up too. Y'all know I did

4405
03:50:56,520 --> 03:51:00,920
Speaker 2: a song with Biggie right, don't don't get twisted my

4406
03:51:01,120 --> 03:51:02,320
Speaker 2: downfall that.

4407
03:51:03,840 --> 03:51:05,120
Speaker 3: I'm at home just being DMC.

4408
03:51:05,200 --> 03:51:06,960
Speaker 2: I get a call, yo, BI want to make your

4409
03:51:07,080 --> 03:51:09,400
Speaker 2: verse to chorus and ship he could relate to that ship.

4410
03:51:10,000 --> 03:51:13,240
Speaker 2: That's not all MC's have the gall to pray and

4411
03:51:13,440 --> 03:51:15,040
Speaker 2: plan for my downfall.

4412
03:51:15,440 --> 03:51:18,760
Speaker 3: But my rhyme was, I'm not running. I'm just stunning smart,

4413
03:51:18,920 --> 03:51:22,440
Speaker 3: not stupid, because I'm so cunning and she's regretting. I'm

4414
03:51:22,600 --> 03:51:25,240
Speaker 3: upsetting my recitals take titles in dollars.

4415
03:51:25,320 --> 03:51:25,800
Speaker 2: I'm betting.

4416
03:51:26,640 --> 03:51:29,240
Speaker 3: But we made together forever, we say, yo. Just put

4417
03:51:29,280 --> 03:51:31,800
Speaker 3: the eight o eight on because think about a New

4418
03:51:31,880 --> 03:51:33,680
Speaker 3: York City was doing that eight o eight before the

4419
03:51:33,760 --> 03:51:37,720
Speaker 3: South the South got it from us dumb dumb, dumb, dumb,

4420
03:51:37,920 --> 03:51:41,200
Speaker 3: dump dumb girl as Jamaine dupri We was fucking eight

4421
03:51:41,240 --> 03:51:43,720
Speaker 3: o eight and now asses off. But we put out

4422
03:51:43,760 --> 03:51:46,040
Speaker 3: party people. We had to shut you all up in

4423
03:51:46,080 --> 03:51:50,120
Speaker 3: the Then when we was doing Raising Hell, Run came along.

4424
03:51:50,720 --> 03:51:53,920
Speaker 3: Run came with UV Yelling, which was just all have.

4425
03:51:57,520 --> 03:52:02,080
Speaker 2: Calling, but he wrote he came when You'll be Yelling,

4426
03:52:02,360 --> 03:52:06,200
Speaker 2: which was his version of a print song. He was

4427
03:52:06,280 --> 03:52:10,040
Speaker 2: inspired by Dove's cry I can see you See that

4428
03:52:10,200 --> 03:52:10,480
Speaker 2: was one.

4429
03:52:10,600 --> 03:52:12,840
Speaker 3: So he comes in to the studio and raising Hell.

4430
03:52:13,080 --> 03:52:14,960
Speaker 3: I got this idea, So him and Jay lay it

4431
03:52:15,040 --> 03:52:17,480
Speaker 3: down and then me and Ray did the ad libs.

4432
03:52:17,600 --> 03:52:20,400
Speaker 3: So Run leaves because Run always had kids. He was like,

4433
03:52:20,520 --> 03:52:22,720
Speaker 3: I think he was three kids deep by this time.

4434
03:52:22,760 --> 03:52:26,360
Speaker 3: First in a hand, Yeah, married, yep, exactly. Didn't make

4435
03:52:26,400 --> 03:52:29,360
Speaker 3: those numbers, but you know he was good running. So

4436
03:52:29,640 --> 03:52:31,920
Speaker 3: when he left, Jay, this is why I love Jay.

4437
03:52:31,920 --> 03:52:34,440
Speaker 3: I'm just sitting there now. That would have could have

4438
03:52:34,480 --> 03:52:38,360
Speaker 3: been just record. Jay turns to me and he says, Deed,

4439
03:52:38,480 --> 03:52:39,600
Speaker 3: so what are you gonna do now?

4440
03:52:39,600 --> 03:52:41,480
Speaker 2: And I'm like, what do you mean? Jay? This is

4441
03:52:41,520 --> 03:52:44,880
Speaker 2: why you gotta love Jay. Run got his record? Where's

4442
03:52:44,920 --> 03:52:48,480
Speaker 2: your record, and I was like, thanks for asking Jay,

4443
03:52:48,840 --> 03:52:52,360
Speaker 2: because I was always writing to be writing anyway.

4444
03:52:52,400 --> 03:52:54,480
Speaker 3: I never wrote for records. I was just always writing,

4445
03:52:55,160 --> 03:52:57,160
Speaker 3: put the beat on, let me figure it out. So

4446
03:52:57,320 --> 03:53:01,960
Speaker 3: I say, Jay, motherfucker, it's trying to say that we

4447
03:53:02,120 --> 03:53:10,040
Speaker 3: ain't on that King rock him terrorist one level. I

4448
03:53:10,200 --> 03:53:12,520
Speaker 3: beg to differ. So he said, what do you want

4449
03:53:12,600 --> 03:53:14,800
Speaker 3: to do? I said, I got these rhymes. Now I

4450
03:53:14,840 --> 03:53:16,800
Speaker 3: didn't know what the song was going to be. I said,

4451
03:53:16,800 --> 03:53:18,440
Speaker 3: I got these rhyms, and you said, let me hit

4452
03:53:18,440 --> 03:53:21,480
Speaker 3: a rhyme. I'm the devastating my control the DMC, and

4453
03:53:21,680 --> 03:53:24,760
Speaker 3: can't nobody mess around with me. I'm the king of rock,

4454
03:53:24,960 --> 03:53:27,160
Speaker 3: rap and of rhymes. So I could just end the

4455
03:53:27,240 --> 03:53:29,560
Speaker 3: conversation right there. I'm not only king of rock, I'm

4456
03:53:29,560 --> 03:53:32,040
Speaker 3: the rapping and you want to run whatever they or

4457
03:53:32,240 --> 03:53:34,280
Speaker 3: king of rock, rap and of rhyme. I deal what

4458
03:53:34,400 --> 03:53:36,960
Speaker 3: I feel and it feels fine. If it's okay to Jay,

4459
03:53:37,040 --> 03:53:39,320
Speaker 3: then I will play around a sound with put down

4460
03:53:39,400 --> 03:53:40,000
Speaker 3: for the rhymes.

4461
03:53:40,040 --> 03:53:41,840
Speaker 2: I say. Then I went into.

4462
03:53:43,160 --> 03:53:46,200
Speaker 3: You jock watching clock while I rocked the spot better

4463
03:53:46,320 --> 03:53:48,080
Speaker 3: known to the world as the King of Rock.

4464
03:53:48,160 --> 03:53:50,520
Speaker 2: I like to speak my piece when I'm on the mic.

4465
03:53:50,760 --> 03:53:52,840
Speaker 2: I'm the best, or at least I'm the one you like.

4466
03:53:53,440 --> 03:53:55,360
Speaker 3: So I had these rhymes and the day was like, oh,

4467
03:53:55,400 --> 03:53:59,200
Speaker 3: here's what we're gonna do in eighty five. And when

4468
03:53:59,240 --> 03:54:02,240
Speaker 3: we was touring with the Fat Boys, watching them ted

4469
03:54:02,320 --> 03:54:05,440
Speaker 3: down coliseums, Run used to do this thing where he

4470
03:54:05,480 --> 03:54:10,920
Speaker 3: would imitate Buffy. I would holler, hit it run. If

4471
03:54:10,960 --> 03:54:13,560
Speaker 3: you listen to hit It run, that's Run imitating Buffy,

4472
03:54:13,760 --> 03:54:16,000
Speaker 3: which was a joke that Run always did on his tour.

4473
03:54:16,360 --> 03:54:17,760
Speaker 3: So Jay goes yo.

4474
03:54:17,960 --> 03:54:21,720
Speaker 2: That thing Run used to do on the Freshfest, which

4475
03:54:21,800 --> 03:54:25,920
Speaker 2: is hip hop's first tour before Raising Hell Freshfest one,

4476
03:54:26,040 --> 03:54:29,160
Speaker 2: Fresh Fest two Run dmc Curtis Blow Houdini.

4477
03:54:29,880 --> 03:54:34,320
Speaker 3: Jermaine dupri was a dancer with Houdini. So Jay says,

4478
03:54:34,360 --> 03:54:36,360
Speaker 3: we're gonna make hit It Run. So I said, Jay,

4479
03:54:36,520 --> 03:54:40,880
Speaker 3: just give me a beat that is fucking fucking pulsating.

4480
03:54:41,440 --> 03:54:43,680
Speaker 3: So we went and we made hit It Run. I

4481
03:54:43,800 --> 03:54:45,720
Speaker 3: had to right hit it run. So I don't want

4482
03:54:45,920 --> 03:54:48,880
Speaker 3: motherfucker's thinking that we just fucking it's tricky.

4483
03:54:48,960 --> 03:54:53,720
Speaker 2: It's like that, motherfuckers. So at every cusps, at every

4484
03:54:53,800 --> 03:54:58,440
Speaker 2: transformation on hip hop, we were we were in a

4485
03:54:58,560 --> 03:55:01,440
Speaker 2: position to do all of it that stuff, but we

4486
03:55:01,520 --> 03:55:03,960
Speaker 2: didn't have to because, like you said, we found a

4487
03:55:04,080 --> 03:55:07,680
Speaker 2: niche with making records like Tricky, but we also had

4488
03:55:07,800 --> 03:55:10,840
Speaker 2: Sucking Seas right. We had Down Went the King, but

4489
03:55:10,960 --> 03:55:12,800
Speaker 2: we also had Mary Mary.

4490
03:55:12,840 --> 03:55:17,560
Speaker 3: So our presentation and presence in hip hop was very versatile.

4491
03:55:18,200 --> 03:55:19,800
Speaker 3: That's why chuck y y'all kind of would like the

4492
03:55:19,880 --> 03:55:21,680
Speaker 3: Beatles because when you think a round to see, you

4493
03:55:21,760 --> 03:55:24,520
Speaker 3: think of all the songs. But most of those songs

4494
03:55:24,560 --> 03:55:26,640
Speaker 3: that y'all don't know were just rap routines that kind

4495
03:55:26,680 --> 03:55:30,400
Speaker 3: of went on cassette tapes in seventy nine. So is

4496
03:55:30,480 --> 03:55:33,440
Speaker 3: it seventy nine or is it two thousand and four?

4497
03:55:34,040 --> 03:55:38,200
Speaker 3: I got a song out right now produced by Bombinuck

4498
03:55:38,200 --> 03:55:40,480
Speaker 3: Who's That's Me Iced Tea Chuck and and shit is

4499
03:55:40,560 --> 03:55:44,040
Speaker 3: killing you know? And I love Rick Rubin saying your

4500
03:55:44,120 --> 03:55:46,240
Speaker 3: old stuff ain't better than your new stuff, and your

4501
03:55:46,280 --> 03:55:48,360
Speaker 3: new stuff ain't better than your It's just it is it.

4502
03:55:48,520 --> 03:55:52,360
Speaker 2: Is, you know what I'm saying. So let's talk about

4503
03:55:52,440 --> 03:55:55,920
Speaker 2: this one record, Beats to the Robs. I forgot about

4504
03:55:55,960 --> 03:56:00,720
Speaker 2: that one that was before It's time. It's been a

4505
03:56:00,760 --> 03:56:05,240
Speaker 2: sample a lot, yep, yep. That record was like.

4506
03:56:07,320 --> 03:56:12,480
Speaker 3: The current hip hop people didn't understand it, but every producer,

4507
03:56:13,040 --> 03:56:14,760
Speaker 3: every MC, every.

4508
03:56:15,080 --> 03:56:17,640
Speaker 2: You said you been carrying at that time, that's yeah,

4509
03:56:17,680 --> 03:56:21,280
Speaker 2: because it was like beat but everybody was like that.

4510
03:56:21,400 --> 03:56:24,000
Speaker 3: When Beast of Rhyme came out, everybody in the industry

4511
03:56:24,200 --> 03:56:26,000
Speaker 3: was kind of like when we walked through the door,

4512
03:56:26,040 --> 03:56:30,320
Speaker 3: they move out their way, like oh, like beacing around

4513
03:56:30,400 --> 03:56:32,600
Speaker 3: with just that ship beats to the ram and rama

4514
03:56:32,760 --> 03:56:39,920
Speaker 3: is part of you, Like it's that ship a man,

4515
03:56:40,080 --> 03:56:42,640
Speaker 3: it is around. It's that like, go listen to pieces

4516
03:56:42,640 --> 03:56:46,960
Speaker 3: of rhyme. Everybody shut the fuck out before you got

4517
03:56:47,080 --> 03:56:52,040
Speaker 3: that ship is crazy. What I say, hard core rhyms

4518
03:56:52,120 --> 03:56:55,480
Speaker 3: go on. Like I said before my beasts.

4519
03:56:55,200 --> 03:56:57,680
Speaker 2: Were played in may RUMs laid j d J and

4520
03:56:57,800 --> 03:56:59,880
Speaker 2: I got paid me something and of nothing yo, d

4521
03:57:00,080 --> 03:57:02,320
Speaker 2: that you Yes, my brother, I'm gonna do it for you,

4522
03:57:02,840 --> 03:57:05,480
Speaker 2: roaming the zone of the microphone and I'll hold the throne.

4523
03:57:05,600 --> 03:57:08,280
Speaker 2: But I'm not alone. Got bone of stealing, not a stone.

4524
03:57:08,320 --> 03:57:09,240
Speaker 2: I'm going to be prone to.

4525
03:57:09,240 --> 03:57:10,680
Speaker 3: Make your mama moone.

4526
03:57:12,000 --> 03:57:14,440
Speaker 2: Time for the rhyme and let the shart seine came

4527
03:57:14,520 --> 03:57:17,560
Speaker 2: with the game and the name company run having fun.

4528
03:57:17,680 --> 03:57:20,680
Speaker 3: Let me give your ring Joe gotta go now. Word

4529
03:57:20,760 --> 03:57:23,160
Speaker 3: from the like, yeah beaston rhyme is that ship?

4530
03:57:23,720 --> 03:57:26,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, let me just say something in dmc man so.

4531
03:57:27,200 --> 03:57:28,320
Speaker 3: And I like I like being.

4532
03:57:29,000 --> 03:57:31,600
Speaker 2: I like being not being in your top five?

4533
03:57:32,240 --> 03:57:35,560
Speaker 3: Who you know when top five? Yeah, I like to

4534
03:57:36,400 --> 03:57:37,800
Speaker 3: because I'm in a class by myself.

4535
03:57:37,880 --> 03:57:39,200
Speaker 2: Absolutely can't put me in it.

4536
03:57:40,000 --> 03:57:41,720
Speaker 3: So I'm better than the top five. That's why I

4537
03:57:41,760 --> 03:57:43,400
Speaker 3: don't come up. You can't put me in that ship.

4538
03:57:43,800 --> 03:57:46,120
Speaker 3: That's limitating in my presence and my abilities.

4539
03:57:48,440 --> 03:57:51,200
Speaker 2: So I know. I actually this a little earlier, but

4540
03:57:52,240 --> 03:57:55,400
Speaker 2: we got we got the single, we got the use,

4541
03:57:55,400 --> 03:57:56,760
Speaker 2: this is, this is, this is this is, this is

4542
03:57:56,760 --> 03:57:59,360
Speaker 2: a this is a cartoon as well. Yeah, I mean

4543
03:58:00,320 --> 03:58:02,520
Speaker 2: and off.

4544
03:58:02,720 --> 03:58:05,679
Speaker 3: Collaboration is the key to transformation.

4545
03:58:06,000 --> 03:58:08,120
Speaker 2: And then the kids book and then another kinds of book,

4546
03:58:08,320 --> 03:58:11,800
Speaker 2: the kids book I did with collaboration with Nickelodeon. It's

4547
03:58:11,840 --> 03:58:14,560
Speaker 2: the first book in a series of books I'm gonna

4548
03:58:14,560 --> 03:58:16,840
Speaker 2: do like ten books. The first one is Daryl's Dream,

4549
03:58:17,200 --> 03:58:20,120
Speaker 2: next want to be Daryl's Decision, next one to It's

4550
03:58:20,160 --> 03:58:21,200
Speaker 2: all gonna be dilemmas.

4551
03:58:21,280 --> 03:58:21,840
Speaker 3: That's the children.

4552
03:58:22,080 --> 03:58:24,480
Speaker 2: Is this going to turn into like series like Chris

4553
03:58:24,600 --> 03:58:28,040
Speaker 2: Rock Everybody hates Krits It could be live action. I

4554
03:58:28,120 --> 03:58:33,520
Speaker 2: gave you, I gave you, yeah, sitcom. So as I

4555
03:58:33,600 --> 03:58:35,520
Speaker 2: look at it, I feel like everybody's, well, it's.

4556
03:58:35,400 --> 03:58:40,160
Speaker 9: Definitely gonna be a cartoon. Yeah, it's needed, But I

4557
03:58:40,200 --> 03:58:44,080
Speaker 9: didn't think of that. Yeah, hell yeah, I think that.

4558
03:58:45,400 --> 03:58:47,680
Speaker 9: I think the hip hop we should get everything from

4559
03:58:47,760 --> 03:58:49,800
Speaker 9: hip hop. Like, if you're gonna watch cartoons, you're gonna

4560
03:58:49,960 --> 03:58:54,200
Speaker 9: do that's what. Yeah, you're gonna you're gonna order a

4561
03:58:54,280 --> 03:58:57,920
Speaker 9: mil prep. I think it should what it is if

4562
03:58:57,920 --> 03:58:58,840
Speaker 9: you're gonna hire a train.

4563
03:59:00,080 --> 03:59:03,120
Speaker 2: No, we at that point that it's so hip hop

4564
03:59:03,200 --> 03:59:05,600
Speaker 2: that you don't even realize that exactly. It's it's like,

4565
03:59:06,040 --> 03:59:08,040
Speaker 2: you know, it's like when our parents was able to

4566
03:59:08,080 --> 03:59:09,920
Speaker 2: go see Temptations and four times.

4567
03:59:10,280 --> 03:59:13,560
Speaker 3: It's like look the Stones Kiss.

4568
03:59:13,760 --> 03:59:15,360
Speaker 2: We at that point with us right now.

4569
03:59:15,720 --> 03:59:19,240
Speaker 3: And it's good because the older, the o gs and

4570
03:59:19,280 --> 03:59:21,720
Speaker 3: the eldest can now get work without even trying for it,

4571
03:59:22,040 --> 03:59:25,160
Speaker 3: because it's just the thing where now I've read an article.

4572
03:59:25,480 --> 03:59:28,440
Speaker 2: Now we are starting to sell tickets again. Oh yeah,

4573
03:59:28,480 --> 03:59:33,520
Speaker 2: oh yeah, yeah, we at that point right now. Yeah,

4574
03:59:33,960 --> 03:59:37,080
Speaker 2: I'm saying it's dope. That's the good thing. I am now.

4575
03:59:37,240 --> 03:59:41,760
Speaker 2: What I saw on American Band standing and soul train.

4576
03:59:42,360 --> 03:59:47,840
Speaker 2: We are now that crazy right? Crazy right. It's a

4577
03:59:47,880 --> 03:59:50,600
Speaker 2: cliche question, and I'm not sure if I answered it.

4578
03:59:50,680 --> 03:59:52,480
Speaker 2: I asked you this earlier, but did you ever think

4579
03:59:52,520 --> 03:59:54,520
Speaker 2: that hip hop would make it this far? Nobody didn't?

4580
03:59:54,680 --> 03:59:54,960
Speaker 2: You did?

4581
03:59:55,120 --> 03:59:57,120
Speaker 3: I didn't answer, you know, I didn't Jay did. Jay

4582
03:59:57,200 --> 04:00:00,440
Speaker 3: would answer that and say, yes, I knew it would

4583
04:00:00,520 --> 04:00:02,480
Speaker 3: because it was so big when I first heard it,

4584
04:00:03,080 --> 04:00:05,880
Speaker 3: and then I read well, like all the shit that

4585
04:00:06,600 --> 04:00:09,520
Speaker 3: I do when I run the cold, crush it and

4586
04:00:09,680 --> 04:00:12,120
Speaker 3: mod shit, that should have been a signal to me.

4587
04:00:12,200 --> 04:00:12,880
Speaker 2: But I didn't think that.

4588
04:00:13,320 --> 04:00:15,360
Speaker 3: I thought it was just gonna stay in our region.

4589
04:00:15,720 --> 04:00:17,440
Speaker 2: I thought what I thought it was going to do

4590
04:00:17,600 --> 04:00:18,520
Speaker 2: was I tell her was going to.

4591
04:00:18,560 --> 04:00:20,600
Speaker 3: Stay in our rear. I thought he's gonna have great records,

4592
04:00:21,040 --> 04:00:23,640
Speaker 3: do some chart shit, grammy shit. But I thought it

4593
04:00:23,680 --> 04:00:28,560
Speaker 3: would eventually become you know, last night in Atlanta, I

4594
04:00:28,600 --> 04:00:30,800
Speaker 3: spoke with somebody in DC about that where Go Go

4595
04:00:31,040 --> 04:00:33,360
Speaker 3: is the one thing I can respect about Go Go.

4596
04:00:33,480 --> 04:00:36,280
Speaker 3: They didn't let the industry determine the life or death

4597
04:00:36,400 --> 04:00:39,560
Speaker 3: of their job. Yeah thing, even at the height of

4598
04:00:39,600 --> 04:00:39,800
Speaker 3: Go Go.

4599
04:00:39,920 --> 04:00:41,600
Speaker 2: Well, I speaking to the guy last night eighty six

4600
04:00:41,680 --> 04:00:44,880
Speaker 2: to eighty eight, we's coming through the met to run DMC,

4601
04:00:45,040 --> 04:00:46,680
Speaker 2: Dougie Fresh, I'm talking about all of us.

4602
04:00:47,000 --> 04:00:49,240
Speaker 3: But at the end of the night, after the Rags

4603
04:00:49,280 --> 04:00:51,200
Speaker 3: in Hell tour, after all ll.

4604
04:00:51,280 --> 04:00:55,000
Speaker 2: Did it, after we did buy all go back fucking home,

4605
04:00:55,120 --> 04:00:59,720
Speaker 2: their go go and exactly yeah, and they know me that.

4606
04:01:00,480 --> 04:01:02,520
Speaker 2: I was like, I've never seen fish so cool. And

4607
04:01:02,600 --> 04:01:04,280
Speaker 2: then they combined it with the hip hop. You know

4608
04:01:04,280 --> 04:01:07,120
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. But for me, I thought hip hop

4609
04:01:07,160 --> 04:01:08,760
Speaker 2: would be just go go, it would just be our

4610
04:01:09,240 --> 04:01:12,840
Speaker 2: cultural thing, like you know how different cities have New

4611
04:01:12,960 --> 04:01:15,360
Speaker 2: Orleans have their things and that I didn't think it

4612
04:01:15,440 --> 04:01:17,680
Speaker 2: was going to do this type of shit. But Jay

4613
04:01:17,800 --> 04:01:20,440
Speaker 2: always said this. I knew it were because it was

4614
04:01:20,520 --> 04:01:22,920
Speaker 2: so big when I first heard it. So imagine what

4615
04:01:23,120 --> 04:01:25,480
Speaker 2: Jay is saying is that's what the kids in Germany heard,

4616
04:01:26,640 --> 04:01:28,880
Speaker 2: That's what the kids in Africa felt, That's what the

4617
04:01:28,960 --> 04:01:31,000
Speaker 2: kids in When we first went over to Japan in

4618
04:01:31,080 --> 04:01:34,600
Speaker 2: eighty six, we get off the plane, I would say

4619
04:01:34,640 --> 04:01:39,600
Speaker 2: about sixty percent understand English, forty percent then for me

4620
04:01:39,720 --> 04:01:43,440
Speaker 2: were talking about the flyg in the communication. Communication is

4621
04:01:43,480 --> 04:01:45,280
Speaker 2: a cool thing and sometimes you didn't even got to

4622
04:01:45,280 --> 04:01:48,320
Speaker 2: say it work. The kids the audience over there would

4623
04:01:48,320 --> 04:01:51,240
Speaker 2: go win WMC, you know in the Japanese dialect, and

4624
04:01:51,280 --> 04:01:55,120
Speaker 2: they went saying work. They would just do this with

4625
04:01:55,280 --> 04:01:57,600
Speaker 2: the suit and we would go. That was the language.

4626
04:01:57,680 --> 04:02:01,240
Speaker 2: That was it. It was communicating. So when Jay I

4627
04:02:01,280 --> 04:02:05,200
Speaker 2: didn't think like Biggy said, did you, some people might say, yeah,

4628
04:02:05,800 --> 04:02:08,480
Speaker 2: I don't know. If kaz in them. Every kaz answer

4629
04:02:08,560 --> 04:02:09,640
Speaker 2: that question. He said no.

4630
04:02:10,040 --> 04:02:11,640
Speaker 3: He said he said if he would, if he would

4631
04:02:11,680 --> 04:02:12,320
Speaker 3: have would.

4632
04:02:16,680 --> 04:02:19,840
Speaker 2: But I didn't take that. Me and Run always said this,

4633
04:02:20,000 --> 04:02:23,520
Speaker 2: me running, Jay always said this. If it didn't have

4634
04:02:26,000 --> 04:02:30,440
Speaker 2: industrial successes and commercial successes, we would be the guys,

4635
04:02:30,640 --> 04:02:35,480
Speaker 2: you know, forty fifty years old, the post office dude,

4636
04:02:36,600 --> 04:02:40,080
Speaker 2: just self employed businessman making the teacher no no, no,

4637
04:02:40,760 --> 04:02:44,760
Speaker 2: coming to the cookouts and the parties, putting the turntables

4638
04:02:44,840 --> 04:02:48,040
Speaker 2: up and rapid right in front of all the little

4639
04:02:48,320 --> 04:02:51,240
Speaker 2: It's now looking like, yeah, exactly. But let's talk about

4640
04:02:51,280 --> 04:02:53,240
Speaker 2: these cookies before we get up out of here. Daryl

4641
04:02:53,320 --> 04:02:57,440
Speaker 2: makes cookies, Okay, I like doing stuff to make people happy.

4642
04:02:57,480 --> 04:03:00,640
Speaker 3: Are you making these yourself? I have a baker who's

4643
04:03:00,800 --> 04:03:04,600
Speaker 3: doing my recipe. Okay, So just tell about comics.

4644
04:03:04,640 --> 04:03:07,280
Speaker 2: I'm like stan Lee. Think of the ideas take up

4645
04:03:07,320 --> 04:03:07,920
Speaker 2: to heroes.

4646
04:03:07,960 --> 04:03:11,720
Speaker 3: But then I go get artists, anchors, pencillers, colorists and

4647
04:03:11,840 --> 04:03:15,080
Speaker 3: writers to write it for me. So I'm my company

4648
04:03:15,480 --> 04:03:18,520
Speaker 3: is I'm Daryl's Mint producing the cookies. Is the greater

4649
04:03:18,720 --> 04:03:19,680
Speaker 3: director of everything.

4650
04:03:19,680 --> 04:03:23,040
Speaker 2: They look good. I'm taking no no, you got So

4651
04:03:23,160 --> 04:03:30,000
Speaker 2: that came about. That came about from I said, Well,

4652
04:03:30,200 --> 04:03:32,760
Speaker 2: from day one, I'm always on a movie set. It's

4653
04:03:32,760 --> 04:03:33,920
Speaker 2: always a craft table.

4654
04:03:34,600 --> 04:03:37,200
Speaker 3: I'm always at an event, show, whatever, and it's always

4655
04:03:37,280 --> 04:03:38,280
Speaker 3: like munchy stuff there.

4656
04:03:38,560 --> 04:03:40,800
Speaker 2: So about seven years ago, I was at.

4657
04:03:40,760 --> 04:03:44,320
Speaker 3: An event in the city where a lady from Harlem

4658
04:03:44,440 --> 04:03:48,040
Speaker 3: was debuting her big goods, and I'm one of my favorite.

4659
04:03:48,040 --> 04:03:50,680
Speaker 2: I eat a lot of sweets. People ask me, what's

4660
04:03:50,760 --> 04:03:55,360
Speaker 2: the suc secret to my weight maintenance. I eat a

4661
04:03:55,640 --> 04:03:58,600
Speaker 2: lot of sweets. Sometimes I eat sweets and don't eat

4662
04:03:58,600 --> 04:04:01,760
Speaker 2: regular food. But organic said, I want to do no

4663
04:04:02,320 --> 04:04:07,240
Speaker 2: chips the Hoy type ship chips o oy. I hate yeah,

4664
04:04:09,960 --> 04:04:16,360
Speaker 2: damn chips a hoy, red velvet cake, apple pie hoy. No,

4665
04:04:16,720 --> 04:04:19,120
Speaker 2: I'm red velvet chips a Hoy. I ain't gonna I'll

4666
04:04:19,120 --> 04:04:21,240
Speaker 2: be I'll be I'll be destroying it and I'll be

4667
04:04:21,320 --> 04:04:24,000
Speaker 2: at like, where's the cookies. APT like, I don't know,

4668
04:04:26,240 --> 04:04:28,160
Speaker 2: why are you asking? I'll be speaking. I'm like, why

4669
04:04:28,160 --> 04:04:30,280
Speaker 2: are you looking at me? I was like knowing my

4670
04:04:30,400 --> 04:04:32,640
Speaker 2: my back of my teeth is mad red velvet cake.

4671
04:04:32,680 --> 04:04:35,440
Speaker 2: Back then, I eat a lot of sweets. But makes

4672
04:04:35,520 --> 04:04:38,600
Speaker 2: me go to the gym. M. That's a balance. I

4673
04:04:38,760 --> 04:04:41,200
Speaker 2: want to eat them. I gotta do the work. So

4674
04:04:41,320 --> 04:04:42,440
Speaker 2: the cookies came about.

4675
04:04:42,640 --> 04:04:46,040
Speaker 3: It was this lady for Harlem showcasing her cookies and

4676
04:04:46,080 --> 04:04:48,880
Speaker 3: her cakes and the cupcakes and all that ship. And

4677
04:04:49,960 --> 04:04:52,920
Speaker 3: I'm always around kids and family, so I just particted sandwich. Oh,

4678
04:04:52,960 --> 04:04:56,440
Speaker 3: these cookies are good. And then I said, I'm gonna

4679
04:04:56,440 --> 04:04:59,920
Speaker 3: make cookies. I'm calling my cookie company. Jarrold makes cookies.

4680
04:05:00,000 --> 04:05:01,960
Speaker 3: And I just said that, and everybody in the room

4681
04:05:02,000 --> 04:05:03,120
Speaker 3: stop and said we'll buy him.

4682
04:05:04,040 --> 04:05:09,560
Speaker 2: So LUNs. Moving ahead, fast forward ahead. I said, you

4683
04:05:09,640 --> 04:05:11,880
Speaker 2: know what I'm doing good with this comic books. I

4684
04:05:11,920 --> 04:05:14,920
Speaker 2: can do. Darln makes cookies, I can do Daryl makes chocolate,

4685
04:05:15,360 --> 04:05:17,320
Speaker 2: I could do, Dohl Mikes candy.

4686
04:05:18,120 --> 04:05:21,120
Speaker 3: A lot of cool stuff that I like. I can't drink,

4687
04:05:21,760 --> 04:05:25,000
Speaker 3: so I can't make my own liquor. I don't think

4688
04:05:25,840 --> 04:05:29,840
Speaker 3: Adidas is my company, so I don't need to make

4689
04:05:29,880 --> 04:05:31,120
Speaker 3: a DFC homeanalize.

4690
04:05:31,240 --> 04:05:34,160
Speaker 2: So I decided to do the cookies because.

4691
04:05:33,840 --> 04:05:36,280
Speaker 3: I'm always around kids, families, and I go to schools

4692
04:05:36,320 --> 04:05:38,480
Speaker 3: all the time. So I want to have a product

4693
04:05:38,560 --> 04:05:42,000
Speaker 3: that's affiliated with something that I'm really part of. And

4694
04:05:42,880 --> 04:05:45,520
Speaker 3: Riggs told me this, He said, Deep, you can do

4695
04:05:45,640 --> 04:05:47,840
Speaker 3: with this book what you've been doing with your music

4696
04:05:47,880 --> 04:05:51,600
Speaker 3: all the time. What do you mean inspire, motivate, educate

4697
04:05:51,720 --> 04:05:54,760
Speaker 3: while you entertain or smiles on people's faces.

4698
04:05:55,200 --> 04:05:57,320
Speaker 2: So I'm just trying to come up with products that

4699
04:05:59,240 --> 04:06:03,680
Speaker 2: could really make me iconic in lifestyle other than what

4700
04:06:03,840 --> 04:06:07,600
Speaker 2: everybody's already doing. So comics is a you know what

4701
04:06:07,640 --> 04:06:09,840
Speaker 2: I'm saying, I don't know about yourself. Yeah, I don't

4702
04:06:09,920 --> 04:06:14,120
Speaker 2: have to be in the competition. My competition is but

4703
04:06:14,440 --> 04:06:18,080
Speaker 2: you know, coming in cookies, Okay, nobody really has cookies.

4704
04:06:18,160 --> 04:06:23,440
Speaker 2: So now I can move only marijuana cookies. Well there's

4705
04:06:23,480 --> 04:06:25,880
Speaker 2: what I can do. I can put Daryl makes cookies,

4706
04:06:25,920 --> 04:06:30,800
Speaker 2: marijuana cookies inside the dispensery. I'll be I'd be an endorser. Okay,

4707
04:06:30,920 --> 04:06:36,040
Speaker 2: that's because I'm speaking of that. But everything's good. See

4708
04:06:36,240 --> 04:06:38,880
Speaker 2: I didn't just come to do your show. See whatever

4709
04:06:38,960 --> 04:06:40,760
Speaker 2: you want, we're gonna really do it and you're gonna

4710
04:06:40,960 --> 04:06:44,600
Speaker 2: end it. No, I can really do it, Dad, I

4711
04:06:44,720 --> 04:06:48,560
Speaker 2: lost my treads on Daryl makes cookies. You're endorse it.

4712
04:06:48,720 --> 04:06:51,720
Speaker 2: I want to do stuff that's that I'm able to

4713
04:06:51,800 --> 04:06:55,440
Speaker 2: do that is not what everybody else is doing. So

4714
04:06:55,920 --> 04:06:59,760
Speaker 2: I can't do jam Assa Jay's kids speaking of none,

4715
04:06:59,760 --> 04:07:02,080
Speaker 2: they got t shirts for you that I got. Jam

4716
04:07:02,160 --> 04:07:04,880
Speaker 2: Master Jay's kids do the pre road joints called Jamj's

4717
04:07:04,880 --> 04:07:09,000
Speaker 2: like coming a cassette thing. Oh jamjs Oh was that right? Exactly?

4718
04:07:09,160 --> 04:07:12,040
Speaker 2: That's why. But yeah, the cookies is just another thing

4719
04:07:12,120 --> 04:07:14,480
Speaker 2: that I want to do that makes people happy. And

4720
04:07:14,840 --> 04:07:17,280
Speaker 2: oh here's my train of thought. When I did the

4721
04:07:17,400 --> 04:07:20,360
Speaker 2: cookie things, everybody at my gym is like, yo, what's

4722
04:07:20,360 --> 04:07:23,240
Speaker 2: so with the protein cookies? So I'm doing these cookies.

4723
04:07:23,280 --> 04:07:25,960
Speaker 2: The next cookie is the protein cookies. But it's not

4724
04:07:26,080 --> 04:07:28,480
Speaker 2: a healthy cookie. Don't even remember, right, it's a cookie

4725
04:07:28,560 --> 04:07:35,560
Speaker 2: with protein in it that for your protein. I thinks, no, no, no, never,

4726
04:07:35,680 --> 04:07:39,240
Speaker 2: that never did. I'm gonna make them vegan, not caring,

4727
04:07:39,400 --> 04:07:41,720
Speaker 2: no koe. Yeah, I had kel chips and ship brew

4728
04:07:41,800 --> 04:07:44,000
Speaker 2: in my life. But it's like, so.

4729
04:07:45,640 --> 04:07:49,320
Speaker 3: I'm trying to I'm trying to put that and it's common.

4730
04:07:49,400 --> 04:07:51,600
Speaker 3: My whole thing is this, and when me and Rick

4731
04:07:51,680 --> 04:07:54,040
Speaker 3: started to Comic book Company, this ain't just the thing

4732
04:07:54,080 --> 04:07:56,560
Speaker 3: where I don't want five years and ten years or

4733
04:07:56,600 --> 04:07:59,360
Speaker 3: even twenty years and people go, remember that common book

4734
04:07:59,440 --> 04:08:02,880
Speaker 3: DMC had one hundred years from now, two hundred years

4735
04:08:02,880 --> 04:08:08,760
Speaker 3: from now, when they people talk about Fred Flintstone, spider Man, Superman, and.

4736
04:08:08,800 --> 04:08:11,000
Speaker 2: I don't even you don't even gotta like my hero.

4737
04:08:11,800 --> 04:08:14,360
Speaker 2: You ain't even gonna like my character. I want you

4738
04:08:14,480 --> 04:08:17,280
Speaker 2: to connect with the character that you feel closer to you.

4739
04:08:17,680 --> 04:08:19,960
Speaker 2: So just like my cookies, I want my cookies to

4740
04:08:20,080 --> 04:08:24,040
Speaker 2: be writer. Oh you got Nobisco, you got Keebler, you

4741
04:08:24,160 --> 04:08:30,000
Speaker 2: got Tats, you got Petrits for him, and kids fifty

4742
04:08:30,080 --> 04:08:33,000
Speaker 2: years ago will be able to their parents and their

4743
04:08:33,040 --> 04:08:35,280
Speaker 2: grandparent will say, Yo, this is this hip hop god.

4744
04:08:35,360 --> 04:08:38,840
Speaker 2: This is good for our culture and our cultural existence.

4745
04:08:39,040 --> 04:08:40,640
Speaker 2: Like he was saying, I'm gonna tell you something. What

4746
04:08:40,760 --> 04:08:45,320
Speaker 2: I want DMC the comic book to be. I want

4747
04:08:45,400 --> 04:08:49,840
Speaker 2: you to get with Snoop and have Snoop's own version

4748
04:08:50,080 --> 04:08:52,680
Speaker 2: of that, right, so it'd be a crossover, like you

4749
04:08:52,720 --> 04:08:54,200
Speaker 2: know what I mean. And then you get with like,

4750
04:08:54,440 --> 04:08:57,000
Speaker 2: for instance, a minute, I thought of that. I thought

4751
04:08:57,040 --> 04:08:59,480
Speaker 2: of Kodak Black, Right, Kodak Black is this new guy

4752
04:08:59,520 --> 04:09:03,280
Speaker 2: from this new generator. But he's a superhero too, you

4753
04:09:03,320 --> 04:09:05,800
Speaker 2: know what I mean. His superhero strengths might be different

4754
04:09:06,080 --> 04:09:10,520
Speaker 2: from a na superhero strength. Oh no, what I'm saying

4755
04:09:10,640 --> 04:09:13,440
Speaker 2: is I think you should go to give each individual,

4756
04:09:13,680 --> 04:09:17,600
Speaker 2: like to me generation, every artist has a version of

4757
04:09:17,640 --> 04:09:20,800
Speaker 2: a superhero, like how he said, So why not why

4758
04:09:20,880 --> 04:09:27,400
Speaker 2: not come on off top like and it's crazy. I

4759
04:09:27,440 --> 04:09:30,640
Speaker 2: would think of you God, like that character of you hard, like,

4760
04:09:30,880 --> 04:09:33,240
Speaker 2: like you know you God, and like you know, make

4761
04:09:33,280 --> 04:09:34,040
Speaker 2: a whole little.

4762
04:09:34,560 --> 04:09:35,520
Speaker 3: A cartoon out of that.

4763
04:09:35,800 --> 04:09:37,880
Speaker 2: That's something that I'm just being honest with you because

4764
04:09:38,040 --> 04:09:40,880
Speaker 2: that's something that we when I get my network on

4765
04:09:40,960 --> 04:09:43,680
Speaker 2: Cartoon Network. Okay, that's what I'm going ship. Damn.

4766
04:09:44,280 --> 04:09:46,640
Speaker 3: See that's what I'm thinking. I even want to do

4767
04:09:47,760 --> 04:09:50,320
Speaker 3: d m C TV. You know what my tagline is,

4768
04:09:50,520 --> 04:09:52,960
Speaker 3: and everybody loves to do that. Ship d d m

4769
04:09:53,080 --> 04:09:57,200
Speaker 3: C TV what MTV used to be and show videos

4770
04:09:57,240 --> 04:09:59,680
Speaker 3: and no reality and show bands and new ship young

4771
04:09:59,720 --> 04:10:01,560
Speaker 3: and all talent. I said that the other day, and

4772
04:10:01,600 --> 04:10:03,640
Speaker 3: I'm like, WHOA, I'm gonna have to go sit down

4773
04:10:03,760 --> 04:10:05,280
Speaker 3: with like an investment company saying.

4774
04:10:05,160 --> 04:10:08,440
Speaker 2: Let's do this ship and advertisers killed to be on

4775
04:10:08,560 --> 04:10:13,400
Speaker 2: DMC TV. Absolutely before you know the diversity of our

4776
04:10:13,440 --> 04:10:18,400
Speaker 2: culture musically sing us new bands, all that shit, Like,

4777
04:10:18,480 --> 04:10:22,880
Speaker 2: there's so many day lost souls and slick ricks of

4778
04:10:23,000 --> 04:10:26,400
Speaker 2: this yearneration. They're just not getting their opportunity, you know

4779
04:10:26,400 --> 04:10:31,680
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So us as people who who walk

4780
04:10:31,800 --> 04:10:33,760
Speaker 2: the walk and talk to talk, we walk.

4781
04:10:33,680 --> 04:10:36,360
Speaker 3: This way moving, Yeah, all of us who walk this

4782
04:10:36,560 --> 04:10:41,920
Speaker 3: way in this very tricky business, no unentertendent. Now I'm

4783
04:10:41,960 --> 04:10:43,360
Speaker 3: trying to encourage around.

4784
04:10:43,520 --> 04:10:47,680
Speaker 2: Yes it is. It's trickery, very trickery around and we

4785
04:10:47,840 --> 04:10:52,680
Speaker 2: made it, you know what I'm saying.

4786
04:10:52,720 --> 04:10:55,560
Speaker 3: But now hip hop is fifty years old, we just

4787
04:10:55,640 --> 04:10:58,240
Speaker 3: get started. Not only do do we need more artists

4788
04:10:58,280 --> 04:11:01,840
Speaker 3: and talent ownership is stuff like that, we need more

4789
04:11:02,080 --> 04:11:07,360
Speaker 3: suits behind the desk in the corporations. So if we

4790
04:11:07,520 --> 04:11:11,400
Speaker 3: include everything that hip hop is capable of, we can.

4791
04:11:11,360 --> 04:11:14,160
Speaker 2: Accomplish those things to the point where we can be

4792
04:11:14,320 --> 04:11:20,080
Speaker 2: so potent that damn nobody's buying Louis anymore. The all

4793
04:11:20,120 --> 04:11:23,280
Speaker 2: the Louis people. When I'm talking about generationally, the old

4794
04:11:23,360 --> 04:11:26,360
Speaker 2: eighty six year old lady walking in stores that we

4795
04:11:26,600 --> 04:11:30,360
Speaker 2: created with our designers and buying those pieces for those

4796
04:11:30,440 --> 04:11:33,840
Speaker 2: same price points. We can do that, and all we

4797
04:11:33,920 --> 04:11:35,920
Speaker 2: got to do is turn that focus of their.

4798
04:11:35,920 --> 04:11:40,880
Speaker 3: Energy, give the appreciation and intention of why you buying

4799
04:11:40,960 --> 04:11:44,000
Speaker 3: it for in the first place to the people that's

4800
04:11:44,040 --> 04:11:46,600
Speaker 3: right here in our communities, so that we can become

4801
04:11:46,680 --> 04:11:49,400
Speaker 3: the next Horrist docles like I don't need to start

4802
04:11:49,400 --> 04:11:51,920
Speaker 3: another sneaker company. I need to be a partner and

4803
04:11:52,160 --> 04:11:55,880
Speaker 3: owner in Adidas moving forward. So we are all of

4804
04:11:55,960 --> 04:11:59,640
Speaker 3: those things. And I think this is just the sort.

4805
04:11:59,680 --> 04:12:03,240
Speaker 3: But me Race only did this to here. If you're

4806
04:12:03,360 --> 04:12:07,520
Speaker 3: if you're a comic book artist and now you know

4807
04:12:07,600 --> 04:12:08,120
Speaker 3: you gotta go.

4808
04:12:08,200 --> 04:12:10,560
Speaker 2: Through the you gotta sign me to super Dog. Got

4809
04:12:10,640 --> 04:12:13,200
Speaker 2: y'all sorry about you got it? Super Dog? Yeah, gotcha

4810
04:12:14,240 --> 04:12:16,240
Speaker 2: is done, is done. I don't worry about it. That

4811
04:12:16,280 --> 04:12:20,720
Speaker 2: would definitely with dogs does Answerer Hero. Here's how deep

4812
04:12:20,840 --> 04:12:23,360
Speaker 2: hip hop we are when we do we have artists

4813
04:12:23,440 --> 04:12:26,600
Speaker 2: do the work. Yeah, you know, I was fire because

4814
04:12:26,800 --> 04:12:30,080
Speaker 2: after we finished the whole book, we invite a Griffiti

4815
04:12:30,200 --> 04:12:33,560
Speaker 2: artist to come tag the universe. So you know, a

4816
04:12:33,640 --> 04:12:35,720
Speaker 2: lot of times the artists will do the graffiti. No,

4817
04:12:36,240 --> 04:12:37,360
Speaker 2: you did the artwork.

4818
04:12:38,080 --> 04:12:41,080
Speaker 3: Now I get the book in the art to graffiti

4819
04:12:41,200 --> 04:12:44,080
Speaker 3: artists and they go into my universe and really tag it.

4820
04:12:44,560 --> 04:12:47,360
Speaker 3: So that's how delicate and fun tune we gotta get

4821
04:12:47,360 --> 04:12:49,320
Speaker 3: with this hip hop ship. You know what I'm saying,

4822
04:12:49,520 --> 04:12:52,920
Speaker 3: and that I believe that's what we're edited. No, I

4823
04:12:52,960 --> 04:12:56,640
Speaker 3: don't like believing. I know that's because if I believe it,

4824
04:12:56,640 --> 04:12:59,880
Speaker 3: it might not happen for everybody else. But if I know,

4825
04:13:00,520 --> 04:13:02,000
Speaker 3: that's what can't happen for you.

4826
04:13:02,640 --> 04:13:04,520
Speaker 2: Yo, Man, I'm just being honest with you. This is

4827
04:13:04,600 --> 04:13:07,440
Speaker 2: such a pleasure, This is such an honor, This was

4828
04:13:07,560 --> 04:13:11,040
Speaker 2: such a a fulfiller for me. Man, you know what

4829
04:13:11,080 --> 04:13:14,560
Speaker 2: I mean, Like, you truly are a hero. You truly

4830
04:13:14,640 --> 04:13:16,480
Speaker 2: are a legend. You truly are I car and you

4831
04:13:16,520 --> 04:13:20,840
Speaker 2: truly are tight and you truly are you know everything

4832
04:13:21,080 --> 04:13:22,960
Speaker 2: that you deserve. So we wanted to really give you

4833
04:13:23,000 --> 04:13:25,040
Speaker 2: your flowers, man, because I got them. You know what

4834
04:13:25,040 --> 04:13:26,200
Speaker 2: I mean, you wanted to.

4835
04:13:26,560 --> 04:13:28,680
Speaker 10: I mean, you know that's physically but even you know

4836
04:13:28,680 --> 04:13:34,280
Speaker 10: what I mean, because mant.

4837
04:13:34,080 --> 04:13:38,400
Speaker 2: Misday No, No, but that's the purpose of this exactly.

4838
04:13:38,800 --> 04:13:40,880
Speaker 2: But you know you are.

4839
04:13:42,320 --> 04:13:44,840
Speaker 10: You are the definition of longevity. You know what I'm saying,

4840
04:13:45,120 --> 04:13:49,280
Speaker 10: Like so many people. You know, I don't want to

4841
04:13:49,280 --> 04:13:51,280
Speaker 10: say I laugh at people sometimes, but sometimes I see

4842
04:13:51,280 --> 04:13:54,120
Speaker 10: people coming in this game. They got a hot one year.

4843
04:13:55,080 --> 04:13:58,160
Speaker 2: And boy ask these people in the world to order

4844
04:13:58,280 --> 04:14:00,840
Speaker 2: the people that came before them. And then then that

4845
04:14:01,160 --> 04:14:03,400
Speaker 2: next year you see them go away. You know what

4846
04:14:03,440 --> 04:14:05,320
Speaker 2: I mean. So in order to be here for this

4847
04:14:05,800 --> 04:14:08,160
Speaker 2: this year is you had to see if I see it,

4848
04:14:08,600 --> 04:14:10,440
Speaker 2: I know how many people you saw come and go.

4849
04:14:11,400 --> 04:14:14,040
Speaker 2: I don't see how many people. So what we wanted

4850
04:14:14,080 --> 04:14:17,440
Speaker 2: to do is praise our legends man, and you are

4851
04:14:17,520 --> 04:14:19,520
Speaker 2: one of them. You are definitely well. You know what

4852
04:14:19,720 --> 04:14:22,600
Speaker 2: you You did something that needed to be done because

4853
04:14:23,200 --> 04:14:26,520
Speaker 2: when I was thinking about all like hip hop, you're

4854
04:14:26,640 --> 04:14:29,560
Speaker 2: doing what needs to be done while setting an example.

4855
04:14:29,880 --> 04:14:32,480
Speaker 2: Because the beautiful thing what I noticed when you speak

4856
04:14:32,560 --> 04:14:37,160
Speaker 2: to Mick and Keith or Joe and see from Ryl

4857
04:14:37,200 --> 04:14:39,880
Speaker 2: Smith it's an interview about them, but they go into

4858
04:14:39,920 --> 04:14:44,920
Speaker 2: the black blues artists. Ye as big, as as huge

4859
04:14:44,960 --> 04:14:48,040
Speaker 2: as the Stones is, as rich as the Stones is.

4860
04:14:48,560 --> 04:14:51,400
Speaker 2: So y'all doing something that Bump talks about a lot.

4861
04:14:51,880 --> 04:14:54,640
Speaker 2: I hear Harris want talk about it that in ll

4862
04:14:55,040 --> 04:14:59,040
Speaker 2: just he's doing wonders with rock bells. He came. He

4863
04:14:59,320 --> 04:15:01,640
Speaker 2: was like, off man, when you see Miles Davis, you

4864
04:15:01,680 --> 04:15:04,560
Speaker 2: ain't thinking about his make account, right, Yeah, I heard

4865
04:15:04,640 --> 04:15:07,760
Speaker 2: him say that because the richest number one selling artists

4866
04:15:07,840 --> 04:15:10,600
Speaker 2: that add their little one hit wonder that it's a

4867
04:15:10,800 --> 04:15:12,320
Speaker 2: celebrity and really famous.

4868
04:15:13,080 --> 04:15:17,280
Speaker 3: Still they'll get on Entertainment tonight before them. But Ella saying,

4869
04:15:17,360 --> 04:15:19,960
Speaker 3: now this ship right here that we have, it's beautiful

4870
04:15:20,040 --> 04:15:25,040
Speaker 3: that y'all taking upon yourselves to acknowledge that, but not

4871
04:15:25,200 --> 04:15:28,360
Speaker 3: only talk about your showcasing. It's one thing. You know,

4872
04:15:28,440 --> 04:15:30,440
Speaker 3: you could just have your podcast and at the end

4873
04:15:30,440 --> 04:15:33,760
Speaker 3: of every record shout out to the legs y'all bringing them.

4874
04:15:33,720 --> 04:15:38,640
Speaker 2: On because you know what it is. You know, that's

4875
04:15:38,680 --> 04:15:42,080
Speaker 2: one of the beautiful, beauty, beautifulest parts of this show

4876
04:15:42,760 --> 04:15:46,360
Speaker 2: is you know, sometimes we will interview an artist and

4877
04:15:46,400 --> 04:15:47,760
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, I just look at their

4878
04:15:47,800 --> 04:15:50,360
Speaker 2: Instagram and they out every weekend after that, and you

4879
04:15:50,440 --> 04:15:52,640
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like, it's just like and that's

4880
04:15:52,680 --> 04:15:55,560
Speaker 2: the best point because because what it is is sometimes

4881
04:15:56,040 --> 04:15:58,280
Speaker 2: it's just an unforgetting herod. You know what I'm saying, Like,

4882
04:15:58,440 --> 04:16:00,880
Speaker 2: like a lot of us and then, yeah, you don't

4883
04:16:00,880 --> 04:16:03,760
Speaker 2: want us to be like the veterans, like these wars

4884
04:16:03,840 --> 04:16:06,440
Speaker 2: for right exactly. So I want to keep us alive,

4885
04:16:06,520 --> 04:16:07,720
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I want to keep us.

4886
04:16:08,160 --> 04:16:11,400
Speaker 3: This is a reminders of the audience. They know about

4887
04:16:11,480 --> 04:16:13,800
Speaker 3: me now while I'm living and not finding out about

4888
04:16:13,880 --> 04:16:14,800
Speaker 3: you talking about me.

4889
04:16:15,280 --> 04:16:17,840
Speaker 2: What about legends? DMC? I know what he did? He does? Oh,

4890
04:16:18,880 --> 04:16:20,840
Speaker 2: so I want you to This is your house. Anytime

4891
04:16:20,880 --> 04:16:22,480
Speaker 2: you want to promote. I don't even even care if

4892
04:16:22,520 --> 04:16:24,880
Speaker 2: you want to promote eyebrows. It's okay. You can come

4893
04:16:24,920 --> 04:16:27,600
Speaker 2: over here and come over here anytime you want your

4894
04:16:27,640 --> 04:16:32,640
Speaker 2: new news. But your little toe now, no matter what

4895
04:16:32,760 --> 04:16:34,400
Speaker 2: you want to out here. You know what I mean,

4896
04:16:34,480 --> 04:16:36,400
Speaker 2: we we here. This is your house. You know what

4897
04:16:36,440 --> 04:16:43,320
Speaker 2: I mean. This is run dmc house, you know. So

4898
04:16:43,680 --> 04:16:45,080
Speaker 2: I want you to know that, man, I want you

4899
04:16:45,120 --> 04:16:47,000
Speaker 2: to know how important you are. You're like that big

4900
04:16:47,080 --> 04:16:49,800
Speaker 2: Daddy Cane and Bismarck to me because they were my

4901
04:16:49,960 --> 04:16:55,040
Speaker 2: drunk run, my forty drinking run. I would always go

4902
04:16:55,120 --> 04:16:57,720
Speaker 2: to Cane Hut. I'm surprised y'all didn't ask him. There

4903
04:16:57,760 --> 04:17:00,720
Speaker 2: was crazy Kane only drink red wine now, well, but

4904
04:17:00,880 --> 04:17:03,160
Speaker 2: back then he wasn't drinking the forties. He would invite

4905
04:17:03,200 --> 04:17:05,000
Speaker 2: me over his house. I would go over his house

4906
04:17:05,120 --> 04:17:08,760
Speaker 2: and empty out his fidget sh and fill it up

4907
04:17:08,800 --> 04:17:12,280
Speaker 2: with forties. And he called his mother, Mom, you would

4908
04:17:12,320 --> 04:17:14,680
Speaker 2: have no idea what's going on? That's how all that

4909
04:17:14,720 --> 04:17:18,680
Speaker 2: I was DMC. Yes, Mom, that DMC just came in

4910
04:17:18,760 --> 04:17:21,680
Speaker 2: and took all my food and shit and filled the

4911
04:17:22,400 --> 04:17:26,320
Speaker 2: refrigerator with forties. Rest in peace of biz Mark, Rest

4912
04:17:26,360 --> 04:17:26,640
Speaker 2: in peace.

4913
04:17:28,400 --> 04:17:31,720
Speaker 3: Right before he passed, his wife was calling people for

4914
04:17:31,880 --> 04:17:33,040
Speaker 3: words of encouragement.

4915
04:17:33,160 --> 04:17:34,520
Speaker 2: Okay, I heard.

4916
04:17:34,440 --> 04:17:38,080
Speaker 3: About Yes, called me and said, I need you. You

4917
04:17:38,160 --> 04:17:39,880
Speaker 3: know he can hear us this and that boom. He

4918
04:17:39,960 --> 04:17:42,400
Speaker 3: can't respond, but we know he can hear us. I

4919
04:17:42,560 --> 04:17:47,000
Speaker 3: need something for you to tell Bismark And she said, wow,

4920
04:17:47,440 --> 04:17:48,680
Speaker 3: this is that's that's.

4921
04:17:49,040 --> 04:17:52,680
Speaker 2: Like I feel like crying. I said, tell Biz and

4922
04:17:52,800 --> 04:17:56,080
Speaker 2: he's going to know what I'm talking about. Just whispering

4923
04:17:56,160 --> 04:18:01,120
Speaker 2: is the DMC says thanks for letting me in. I

4924
04:18:01,200 --> 04:18:06,880
Speaker 2: would be in a drunk stupor three two in the morning, No,

4925
04:18:07,040 --> 04:18:08,720
Speaker 2: Matt and I would go to Bi's house and.

4926
04:18:10,960 --> 04:18:14,800
Speaker 3: And if it wasn't his family, Steve c at the

4927
04:18:14,920 --> 04:18:18,000
Speaker 3: don't let him in. This would always let me in

4928
04:18:18,120 --> 04:18:20,720
Speaker 3: long Holes. No in Long nine, Long Island when he

4929
04:18:20,760 --> 04:18:22,560
Speaker 3: lived in Jersey. I think it was any of my

4930
04:18:22,640 --> 04:18:23,520
Speaker 3: house in Jersey.

4931
04:18:25,200 --> 04:18:28,320
Speaker 2: Three, you know, one in four and to the point

4932
04:18:28,360 --> 04:18:33,320
Speaker 2: where he would be on the road, it's hold on

4933
04:18:34,440 --> 04:18:36,440
Speaker 2: and if people would let me in his house. And

4934
04:18:36,560 --> 04:18:38,320
Speaker 2: I looked back and I said, I look back and

4935
04:18:38,920 --> 04:18:42,520
Speaker 2: what I was doing now? But biz Marky will always

4936
04:18:42,600 --> 04:18:45,760
Speaker 2: let me in, and Kane would always let me. I

4937
04:18:45,920 --> 04:18:48,520
Speaker 2: love King God, Damn, I spake some noise for that moment.

4938
04:18:52,520 --> 04:18:55,840
Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. Let me just reveal one

4939
04:18:56,000 --> 04:18:58,360
Speaker 3: thing I never thought I would be on the show Man.

4940
04:18:58,360 --> 04:19:01,720
Speaker 3: We've been trying though. No, was not drinking when when

4941
04:19:02,720 --> 04:19:06,840
Speaker 3: my managers, Bro Little little Eric Blam was saying this

4942
04:19:07,000 --> 04:19:10,480
Speaker 3: and that they really they want me, Like.

4943
04:19:10,600 --> 04:19:15,320
Speaker 2: Just for some reason, I didn't think I was cool enough. Really,

4944
04:19:16,160 --> 04:19:18,880
Speaker 2: you're cool enough for you to be here. Yes, I

4945
04:19:18,960 --> 04:19:23,120
Speaker 2: think you. Thank you. That's a compliment to yo, the compliment.

4946
04:19:24,440 --> 04:19:26,840
Speaker 2: I'm honored and humble to sat that that was on

4947
04:19:26,920 --> 04:19:28,680
Speaker 2: your mind. I'm gonna be honest with you. Like I

4948
04:19:28,760 --> 04:19:31,360
Speaker 2: said earlier, I wasn't saying this because it sounds good

4949
04:19:31,880 --> 04:19:34,320
Speaker 2: like in a lot of ways. You was the first

4950
04:19:35,160 --> 04:19:38,040
Speaker 2: commercial successful coming out of our burrow like you was.

4951
04:19:38,560 --> 04:19:40,200
Speaker 2: I want to say national, but I want to say

4952
04:19:40,240 --> 04:19:41,960
Speaker 2: world wide. You know what I mean? Like you know

4953
04:19:42,000 --> 04:19:44,440
Speaker 2: what I mean. Like before that we had records in

4954
04:19:44,800 --> 04:19:47,520
Speaker 2: Queens and things like that. But like the first time

4955
04:19:47,560 --> 04:19:49,960
Speaker 2: I seen Walk this Way, that was on MTV, this

4956
04:19:50,280 --> 04:19:54,360
Speaker 2: SUPERSTI you guys, was in between like five different like

4957
04:19:54,480 --> 04:19:57,480
Speaker 2: you know, white category videos and this remember right over that.

4958
04:19:57,640 --> 04:20:00,280
Speaker 2: I can see that level that's crazy to me. And

4959
04:20:00,440 --> 04:20:02,800
Speaker 2: like and then then it's from Queens. You know what

4960
04:20:02,800 --> 04:20:05,080
Speaker 2: I'm saying. I know him being a DJ, you know

4961
04:20:05,120 --> 04:20:08,360
Speaker 2: with Jam Message J. I know this guy, where's Adidas

4962
04:20:08,400 --> 04:20:08,880
Speaker 2: to this day?

4963
04:20:09,240 --> 04:20:10,000
Speaker 3: Cose of you guys?

4964
04:20:10,120 --> 04:20:10,640
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

4965
04:20:12,200 --> 04:20:13,560
Speaker 3: So this means the world to us.

4966
04:20:13,680 --> 04:20:16,120
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Big up. First off, I

4967
04:20:16,200 --> 04:20:17,960
Speaker 2: want to say rest in pieces of Jam Massa J,

4968
04:20:18,120 --> 04:20:22,320
Speaker 2: his family, my condolass and also you know know, big

4969
04:20:22,440 --> 04:20:24,880
Speaker 2: up to I'm gonna call him DJ Ryn, you know

4970
04:20:24,880 --> 04:20:27,440
Speaker 2: what I mean, And big up to the whole run

4971
04:20:27,520 --> 04:20:30,560
Speaker 2: DMC family. Because in all honesty, like I said, if

4972
04:20:30,600 --> 04:20:32,360
Speaker 2: it wasn't for y'all, I don't think this show would

4973
04:20:32,360 --> 04:20:34,720
Speaker 2: even exist. I don't think I would exist as the

4974
04:20:34,800 --> 04:20:37,040
Speaker 2: artists don't think he would. This is a DJ and

4975
04:20:37,160 --> 04:20:41,160
Speaker 2: that's that's that's no exaggeration, real talk. We love you, man,

4976
04:20:41,400 --> 04:20:44,520
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for stopping by said we love you.

4977
04:20:45,120 --> 04:20:45,880
Speaker 3: This is your show.

4978
04:20:45,960 --> 04:20:47,720
Speaker 2: Anytime you want to come through here, it doesn't matter

4979
04:20:47,800 --> 04:20:49,280
Speaker 2: what you want to promote my brother.

4980
04:20:55,080 --> 04:20:58,160
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4981
04:20:58,280 --> 04:21:03,120
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4982
04:21:03,120 --> 04:21:07,120
Speaker 11: O r E and dj e FN from Interval Presents

4983
04:21:07,360 --> 04:21:10,560
Speaker 11: executive producers Alan Coy and Jake Kleinberg.

4984
04:21:11,200 --> 04:21:12,320
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4985
04:21:12,360 --> 04:21:17,320
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4986
04:21:18,400 --> 04:21:20,800
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4987
04:21:20,880 --> 04:21:23,560
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4989
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4990
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