WEBVTT - The History of IBM: Part 1

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<v Speaker 1>It's ready. Are you get in touch with technology? With

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<v Speaker 1>tech Stuff from how stuff works dot com. Hello again, everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to tech Stuff. My name is Chris Poulette and

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<v Speaker 1>I am an editor at how stuff works dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Sitting across from me as always a senior writer, Jonathan Strickland.

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<v Speaker 1>They took the credit for your second Symphony Rewritten by machine,

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<v Speaker 1>a new technology. I feel like I've heard that somewhere before. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>probably in a recent podcast, because we quoted that song

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<v Speaker 1>not long ago. Yes, it buggles the mind. It does

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<v Speaker 1>buggle the man. Uh. Today though, we're talking about, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>something entirely well, not something entirely different, but something a

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<v Speaker 1>little uh, I don't know. We are gonna we're concentrating.

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<v Speaker 1>We're concentrated today on a particular company. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a multi part podcast because the come

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<v Speaker 1>and he has such a long history that we can't

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<v Speaker 1>sum it up in one episode. It's just it's too

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<v Speaker 1>much information, um, and it would just mean that if

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<v Speaker 1>we were to try and push it all into thirty minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>you really wouldn't learn anything. Right. As a matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 1>we had we had a request for this at one point,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe, Yeah, I think so. We've had a few

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<v Speaker 1>people ask us about this. I don't have any specifics

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<v Speaker 1>to point to, because we've received quite a few over

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<v Speaker 1>the history of our podcast. So we are going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk today about IBM. Yes, Big Blue International Business Machines. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's it's got an incredibly long history. Let me

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<v Speaker 1>just ask you, Chris, just curious just when when you

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<v Speaker 1>hear the the letters IBM, what's the first thing you

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<v Speaker 1>think of? Um, Well, I probably think of the current computers,

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<v Speaker 1>mainly because well, just to be honest, um, those of

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<v Speaker 1>us in the editorial department at how stuff Works dot com,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of us still have IBM laptops, which are

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<v Speaker 1>the machines that they gave us. And specifically, which is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of funny because this actually comes after, uh, the

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<v Speaker 1>company made an agreement with the Chinese computer manufacturer Lenovo,

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<v Speaker 1>so their IBM branded but they're actually Lenovo machines. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's probably just because it's there every day.

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<v Speaker 1>I think of that, but I also think of, um

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<v Speaker 1>a number of things, main frames. I think of the

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<v Speaker 1>IBM S electric typewriter that I can't wait to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about that. Um So, yeah, I mean, for me, it's

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<v Speaker 1>the first thing I think of, is, uh, the IBM

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<v Speaker 1>two eighties six that my family had when I was

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<v Speaker 1>a kid. We started off with other computers, which I've

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<v Speaker 1>talked about in the past, but the computer that my

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<v Speaker 1>dad got that ended up being the workhorse was an

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<v Speaker 1>IBM two eighties six. We did eventually upgrade to a

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<v Speaker 1>three eight six and for eighty six further down the line,

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<v Speaker 1>but that two eight six kind of was what I

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<v Speaker 1>cut my teeth on once I got on the Apple

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<v Speaker 1>two e No, no, no, no, you're not supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>chew on them. Well, I realized that, But I was

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<v Speaker 1>a late bloomer anyway. Where the personal computer age is

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<v Speaker 1>very late in IBM's history because the company is very,

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<v Speaker 1>very old. Yeah, it sort of depends on whom you

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<v Speaker 1>ask how old it is, because IBM actually sort of

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<v Speaker 1>gives their their age tracks or age back a little

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<v Speaker 1>differently than other people might write. UM. And I found

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<v Speaker 1>that out. Actually checked out a book from the library

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<v Speaker 1>called Building IBM, Shaping an Industry and its Technology by

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<v Speaker 1>Emerson W. Pu Um, and he actually tracks uh, the

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<v Speaker 1>founding of IBM past where IBM does. He goes back

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<v Speaker 1>to an inventor named Herman Hollowrath. Yes, yes, Herman Hollowrath.

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<v Speaker 1>He created a tabulating machine, didn't he. Yes, he did. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>He actually got his his first patent application in on

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<v Speaker 1>in September four. That's not that when he started the company,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's when he started working on tabulating machines. Now

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<v Speaker 1>there are other people who were doing other related work too,

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<v Speaker 1>because IBM actually was founded by the combination of three companies. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>technically kind of a fourth company. Uh. The three companies

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<v Speaker 1>specifically were, UM, let's see, it was the the Tabulating

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<v Speaker 1>Machine Company, which was incorporated in eighteen ninety six, So

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<v Speaker 1>you've got that one. You've got the Computing Scale Company,

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<v Speaker 1>which was incorporated in eighteen nine one, and the International

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<v Speaker 1>Time Recording Company organized in nineteen hundred. And then there

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<v Speaker 1>was also the Bundy Manufacturing Company, which was incorporated in

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen eighty nine. Now a lot of the Bundy UH

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<v Speaker 1>properties had been incorporated into International Time Recording Company already,

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<v Speaker 1>so you're already talking about companies have been undergoing mergers

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<v Speaker 1>and acquisitions. Um. You had people like Julius E. Petrot

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<v Speaker 1>who in five security patent for a device that he

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<v Speaker 1>called a computing scale. That was what created the foundation

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<v Speaker 1>for the Computing Scale company. UH. You had Herman Hollerwrath

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<v Speaker 1>who had the tabulation and punch card machines that he created.

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<v Speaker 1>William L. Bundy, who was of course the founder of

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<v Speaker 1>the Bundy Manufacturing Company, came up with a time recording device.

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<v Speaker 1>He was actually a jeweler, and this guy came up

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<v Speaker 1>with a time recording device that allowed employees to track

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<v Speaker 1>their time based upon using special keys. That would put

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<v Speaker 1>a special key into this machine. Turned the key, it

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<v Speaker 1>would stamp the time that they clocked in, and then

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<v Speaker 1>they would turn the key. At the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>it would stamp the time they clocked out, and it

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<v Speaker 1>helped keep track of how many hours they worked. Then

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<v Speaker 1>you also had Dr Alexander day d e Y and

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<v Speaker 1>he created a similar time time keeping device, but it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't use keys. Instead, you put the names of the

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<v Speaker 1>employees on this machine and there was a mechanical pointer.

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<v Speaker 1>You had aimed the pointer at the employee's name. You

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<v Speaker 1>put a punch card in, push a button and it

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<v Speaker 1>would then stamp the employee's sheet which was inside the machine. UH.

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<v Speaker 1>With the time that they clocked in and clocked out.

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<v Speaker 1>So you had all these differ in companies. And remember

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<v Speaker 1>this is this is the age where we're really starting

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<v Speaker 1>to get into mechanical devices. So most of these devices

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<v Speaker 1>are mechanical in nature. There are actual physical gears and

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<v Speaker 1>pistons things like that that are making stuff happen inside

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<v Speaker 1>these machines. But it's not it's I'm sorry, no, go ahead,

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say it's it's actually, in a way,

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<v Speaker 1>not any of these guys who created IBM. No, it

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<v Speaker 1>took someone from outside this group to really form it together.

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<v Speaker 1>Which the fun and the funny part is we've got

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<v Speaker 1>all these inventors, but we're really talking about, or at

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<v Speaker 1>least I am talking about a businessman, yes, who saw

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<v Speaker 1>an opportunity to combine the companies and make some money by,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, making a building a merger between them. And

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<v Speaker 1>his name was Charles R. Flint. Yes, So here we

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<v Speaker 1>got a guy who looks at these companies, these individual

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<v Speaker 1>companies that are all making various kinds of mechanical devices,

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<v Speaker 1>and he says, hey, hang on a second, we could

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<v Speaker 1>combine these because a lot of these are are creating

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<v Speaker 1>devices specifically geared toward businesses. And if we were to

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<v Speaker 1>combine these, we could combine the manufacturing power and the

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<v Speaker 1>business power of these and and market it toward businesses.

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<v Speaker 1>We could create an enormous corporation. Now, I just have

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<v Speaker 1>to convince the guys that this is a good idea.

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<v Speaker 1>So he starts going to all these different companies and

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<v Speaker 1>he submits merger proposals, and eventually the companies agreed to this,

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<v Speaker 1>and they formed the Computing Tabulating Recording Corporation or CTR

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<v Speaker 1>on June six, nineteen eleven. I gotta say, these guys

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<v Speaker 1>have a flare for an innovative name. Yes, the Computing

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<v Speaker 1>Tabulating Recording Corporation. It was called computing because of the

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<v Speaker 1>computer scale we were talking about, which was not a

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<v Speaker 1>computer computer. It was a scale that could very accurately

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<v Speaker 1>measure weights computing scale. Yes. And then the tabulating being

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<v Speaker 1>the tabulating from Holly Erath, and the recording being the

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<v Speaker 1>time recording devices that we talked about earlier. Yes, pews

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<v Speaker 1>Book actually said that the scale that they had come

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<v Speaker 1>up with would give you the information up front, so

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't really have to do as much work with it,

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<v Speaker 1>so it would actually do the calculating for you will

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<v Speaker 1>give you an idea of what was going on, which was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know at the time, was was pretty innovative. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>so we've got this major corporation forming in nineteen eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's a problem. Who heads up this new corporation. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Flint was pretty savvy, as was the board of directors

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<v Speaker 1>for CTR. They knew that they could not necessarily just

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<v Speaker 1>hire or promote someone from within one of those companies

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<v Speaker 1>to be the head of the new corporation, because if

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<v Speaker 1>they did, there's the danger that that person would favor

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<v Speaker 1>one division over all the others. So if you were

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<v Speaker 1>to promote someone up from the tabulating machine company, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>that person might concentrate on that division of the new

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<v Speaker 1>mega company and ignore the others, and then your business

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<v Speaker 1>venture fails. So they had to find someone from outside

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<v Speaker 1>this this merger to head up the new company. I

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<v Speaker 1>know who you're gonna say, but I I would also

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<v Speaker 1>like to add before we go on to this person,

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<v Speaker 1>um that apparently, from what I understand, not everyone was

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<v Speaker 1>thrilled with the way the merger was working out. Apparently

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<v Speaker 1>hollerth Uh and Flint didn't necessarily get along all that well,

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<v Speaker 1>as a matter of fact, apparently Hollowrath was you know,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the rare business people where he was very egalitarian. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>He when he sold you know, the interest in his

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<v Speaker 1>company to Flint, he insisted that everyone get a fair

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<v Speaker 1>share of the money and apparently was very well liked

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<v Speaker 1>within his own company before uh he did that. And apparently,

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<v Speaker 1>um And I imagine that that would be something to

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<v Speaker 1>to take into account when you are trying to make

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<v Speaker 1>this decision on who you want to run the company,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, if you've got people who are already

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<v Speaker 1>having you know, personality problems personality conflicts with the people

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<v Speaker 1>at the top, then you're you're certainly going to be

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<v Speaker 1>aware of that and and and try to avoid that

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<v Speaker 1>conflict because otherwise you could scuttle the company. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think you're talking about the person you wanted to mention

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<v Speaker 1>next with someone who was brought in as a general manager. Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>from from the National Cash Register Corporation and CR. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>That person was Thomas J. Watson, Sr. And he was

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<v Speaker 1>hired on May fourth, nineteen fourteen, And that is the

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<v Speaker 1>date that IBM uses as its founding. It considers Watson's

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<v Speaker 1>arrival at at the company and remember it's not called

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<v Speaker 1>IBM yet, it's still CTR, but it considers his arrival

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<v Speaker 1>to be the birth of IBM. And part of that

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<v Speaker 1>reason is because Watson really instilled in the company an

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<v Speaker 1>entire array of marketing UM principles and philosophies that he

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<v Speaker 1>he had developed over the years, and that became IBM

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<v Speaker 1>sort of foundation for the way that they do business. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>let's give a little background on Watson. Watson was a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a character too. In fact, he had he

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<v Speaker 1>was not exactly spotless in his history. UM Watson when

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<v Speaker 1>he graduated college, originally he wanted to be a teacher,

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<v Speaker 1>but reportedly that job lasted all of one day before

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<v Speaker 1>he quit. He then concentrated on becoming a salesman, and

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<v Speaker 1>in fact was a traveling salesman selling. As I recall

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<v Speaker 1>pianos and organs to people in rural areas, it made

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<v Speaker 1>me think of the music man. It was. Essentially Watson

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<v Speaker 1>was was Professor Harold Hill. He was actually selling stuff

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<v Speaker 1>instead of trying trying to and then getting out well

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<v Speaker 1>technically Hill was selling stuff too, He just was making

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<v Speaker 1>promises that people could use it when he didn't intend

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<v Speaker 1>to do it. He wanted to skip town as soon

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<v Speaker 1>as the stuff came in. Spoiler alert for ayone who

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<v Speaker 1>has not seen a musing that I almost got you

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<v Speaker 1>to split water too. That was great. So Watson then

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<v Speaker 1>went on to UH. He started he opened up a

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<v Speaker 1>butcher's shop. He ended up eventually selling the butcher's shop,

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<v Speaker 1>but one thing he had to do was he had

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<v Speaker 1>an NCR cash register in that butcher's shop that was

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<v Speaker 1>not completely paid for, so he had to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>act as a liaison between the new owner of the

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<v Speaker 1>butcher shop and NCR to kind of settle these payments.

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<v Speaker 1>He started to bug the people at NCR for a job,

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<v Speaker 1>and eventually they broke down and and apprenticed him to

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<v Speaker 1>someone at NCR as a salesman, and over time Watson

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<v Speaker 1>was able to make a name for himself as a

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<v Speaker 1>salesman and later as a manager. He actually became known

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<v Speaker 1>for running competitors out of business in certain markets. He

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<v Speaker 1>would go into a market and find out ways to

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to UH to beat any competitor who

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<v Speaker 1>that was also selling a mechanical cash register machine. So,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, he would go into a market and undercut

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<v Speaker 1>all the compere editors and sell cash registers at a

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<v Speaker 1>loss just to bankrupt his uh, his competitors so that

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<v Speaker 1>he could have a monopoly on the market. This eventually

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<v Speaker 1>led to an antitrust lawsuit against him because he was monopolizing. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the first trial ended with a guilty verdict and a

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<v Speaker 1>five thousand dollar fine and I think two years since

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<v Speaker 1>in jail something like that. Anyway, it was, it was

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<v Speaker 1>it was unusual for a jail sentence to go along

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<v Speaker 1>with this kind of a charge, but Watson ended up

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<v Speaker 1>getting one. He appealed that and during the appeals process,

0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:40.040
<v Speaker 1>the government decided he won the right to appeal. The

0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:42.400
<v Speaker 1>government decided that it was not worth the time and

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<v Speaker 1>money to pursue a second trial, so he the charges

0:13:47.600 --> 0:13:50.720
<v Speaker 1>were dismissed. But yeah, so Watson was he was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a cutthroat businessman as well. So during his days

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<v Speaker 1>at NCR he did something that ended up being very

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<v Speaker 1>important to ibm s philosophy. It was in a meeting

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<v Speaker 1>in December in nineteen eleven. Do you know where I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going with this? All right? It's a motto that IBM uses. Yeah,

0:14:08.720 --> 0:14:11.480
<v Speaker 1>So there's Watson in this meeting with n c R

0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:14.679
<v Speaker 1>and he says, this is a quote. The trouble with

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<v Speaker 1>every one of us is that we don't think enough.

0:14:17.600 --> 0:14:19.960
<v Speaker 1>We don't get paid for working with our feet, we

0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:22.920
<v Speaker 1>get paid for working with our heads. Thought has been

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<v Speaker 1>the father of every advance since time began. I didn't

0:14:26.640 --> 0:14:30.240
<v Speaker 1>think has cost the world millions of dollars. And then

0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:33.360
<v Speaker 1>he wrote the word think in all capital letters in

0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:39.800
<v Speaker 1>blue crayon on an easel Blue Think Big Things for IBM,

0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:42.560
<v Speaker 1>as it turns out. Yeah, so it's kind of funny

0:14:42.560 --> 0:14:45.480
<v Speaker 1>that IBM can trace one of its central mottos to

0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:49.080
<v Speaker 1>another company because this was before Watson came over. So

0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:51.560
<v Speaker 1>then Watson does come over to the company and begins

0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:55.360
<v Speaker 1>to lead it. He joined in nineteen fourteen, and the

0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:57.600
<v Speaker 1>company really starts to take off. You know, You've got

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<v Speaker 1>all these different divisions that are concentrating on specific elements

0:15:03.080 --> 0:15:06.240
<v Speaker 1>of their business, and uh, they just start really cranking

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<v Speaker 1>out some interesting products, all for businesses, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>right right, Well, let's put this, let's put it in perspective.

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<v Speaker 1>So in nineteen according to IBM, when Thomas J. Watson Sr.

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<v Speaker 1>Joined the company, it had one thousand, three hundred forty

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<v Speaker 1>six employees and nine million dollars in revenue. Um, the

0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:30.040
<v Speaker 1>gross income from sales, service and rentals was about four

0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:33.080
<v Speaker 1>million dollars. Uh. And as a matter of fact, one

0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:37.160
<v Speaker 1>hundred years of CTR stock UH would set you back

0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:39.760
<v Speaker 1>about three thousand dollars. Yes, so they would make four

0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:42.240
<v Speaker 1>million dollars in a year. But out of that their

0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:45.440
<v Speaker 1>earnings were around a million. Right, So so you make

0:15:45.480 --> 0:15:48.640
<v Speaker 1>four million and after costs you you ranke in a

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars. Um. Yeah, I said, Actually it said nine.

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<v Speaker 1>Well I'm looking at two different IBM documents. One is

0:15:55.680 --> 0:15:58.680
<v Speaker 1>nine million in revenues and the other says, uh, four

0:15:58.720 --> 0:16:01.160
<v Speaker 1>million from gross in come. Yeah, that's what I had,

0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:04.680
<v Speaker 1>the four million engrossing had so um. You know, yeah,

0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:06.840
<v Speaker 1>it sounds like a little today, keeping in mind that

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<v Speaker 1>it's that's quite substantial. Yeah, nine fourteen. Come on, And

0:16:10.880 --> 0:16:14.040
<v Speaker 1>if it sounds weird to say rentals, hollow if actually

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<v Speaker 1>when he did his tabulating machine, would actually rent the

0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:21.840
<v Speaker 1>equipment out. Um, So he did not sell people machines.

0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:25.120
<v Speaker 1>So at the time, you know this kind of equipment, uh,

0:16:25.200 --> 0:16:29.480
<v Speaker 1>the sophisticated mechanical computer equipment. Actually, he was one of

0:16:29.520 --> 0:16:34.240
<v Speaker 1>the first people to use electrical um tabulating devices. Yeah,

0:16:34.480 --> 0:16:37.840
<v Speaker 1>we're getting into the electro mechanical era here. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but I mean you didn't you didn't buy that necessarily,

0:16:39.960 --> 0:16:42.440
<v Speaker 1>you would rent that from someone. And we're actually you

0:16:42.520 --> 0:16:45.000
<v Speaker 1>might wonder what these tabulating devices were used for. Well,

0:16:45.000 --> 0:16:46.840
<v Speaker 1>they were often I mean they were used to classify

0:16:46.920 --> 0:16:49.920
<v Speaker 1>information in a way that could be sorted and categorized

0:16:49.920 --> 0:16:53.000
<v Speaker 1>in various ways relatively quickly, you know, much more quickly

0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:55.520
<v Speaker 1>than humans could. In fact, it was originally used for

0:16:55.520 --> 0:16:58.400
<v Speaker 1>the Census. He worked for hollow Reth worked for the

0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:02.200
<v Speaker 1>Census in eighteen eight I believe, and he actually his

0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:04.400
<v Speaker 1>boss was saying, it would be really nice we could

0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:05.840
<v Speaker 1>come up with a machine to cut down on all

0:17:05.880 --> 0:17:07.360
<v Speaker 1>this work, because this is a real pain in the neck.

0:17:07.840 --> 0:17:10.520
<v Speaker 1>So we did. Yeah, and this this invention plays a

0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:13.000
<v Speaker 1>much darker role in a few years, and we'll touch

0:17:13.040 --> 0:17:15.760
<v Speaker 1>on that because it is an important element of IBM's history.

0:17:16.080 --> 0:17:18.040
<v Speaker 1>But I think that's why Pugh started with Hollywrith was

0:17:18.080 --> 0:17:21.879
<v Speaker 1>because that is the most computer alike of all the things,

0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:26.760
<v Speaker 1>of all the the original businesses that CTR was involved with. Yeah. So,

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<v Speaker 1>so just a couple of highlights in the early years

0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:35.239
<v Speaker 1>of Watson's uh um, what am I gonna call it?

0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:38.440
<v Speaker 1>Watson being the president general manager of of ctr U.

0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:44.280
<v Speaker 1>They have the company's implementation of electric synchronization for the

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<v Speaker 1>control and regulation of complete time and programming systems. Yep,

0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:52.640
<v Speaker 1>and that's that's true, um, now that you pointed out,

0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:56.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they introduced the first electric synchronized time clock

0:17:56.880 --> 0:18:00.520
<v Speaker 1>system UM, which again is very computer like, just a

0:18:00.800 --> 0:18:04.040
<v Speaker 1>component that's part of that. And I'd just like to

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<v Speaker 1>add one sort of foreshadowing date. A couple of years

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<v Speaker 1>before that, in nineteen seventeen, UH, CTR decided to enter Canada,

0:18:13.200 --> 0:18:15.560
<v Speaker 1>UH and decided instead of using CTR they would use

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<v Speaker 1>a different name. They decided to call themselves International Business Machines. Yeah,

0:18:19.280 --> 0:18:21.879
<v Speaker 1>so in nineteen seventeen and nineteen eighteen they registered that

0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:23.960
<v Speaker 1>name in New York, but did not use it at

0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:27.320
<v Speaker 1>that time. So uh yeah. And in nineteen twenty they

0:18:27.359 --> 0:18:32.480
<v Speaker 1>introduced the lock Autograph Recorder, which was the first complete

0:18:32.520 --> 0:18:37.680
<v Speaker 1>school time control system. They also launched the electric accounting machines,

0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:40.920
<v Speaker 1>so that's kind of a predecessor to the calculator. Ah.

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<v Speaker 1>And they acquired a company called the ticket O Graph

0:18:45.400 --> 0:18:48.120
<v Speaker 1>Company of Chicago in nineteen twenty one, and they also

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<v Speaker 1>started buying up more patents IBM to this day has

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<v Speaker 1>more than a thousand patents. They had more than a

0:18:56.119 --> 0:18:59.480
<v Speaker 1>thousand in the seventies, but yes, far more than a thousand, so,

0:18:59.560 --> 0:19:01.720
<v Speaker 1>and some of those were developed in house and some

0:19:01.760 --> 0:19:05.520
<v Speaker 1>of them they've purchased. So in those early years, we

0:19:05.560 --> 0:19:09.280
<v Speaker 1>get up to February fourteenth, Valentine's Day, nineteen twenty four.

0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:15.320
<v Speaker 1>Watson has an idea. Yes, he decides that this IBM

0:19:15.440 --> 0:19:17.760
<v Speaker 1>name that they're using in Canada as a good name,

0:19:18.000 --> 0:19:20.720
<v Speaker 1>and that it should it really reflects the business more

0:19:20.760 --> 0:19:25.320
<v Speaker 1>than CTR does. UM. The business at this point is international.

0:19:25.359 --> 0:19:29.080
<v Speaker 1>They have offices elsewhere besides the United States, and so

0:19:29.560 --> 0:19:32.520
<v Speaker 1>they think, well, we're gonna rebrand ourselves. We're gonna be

0:19:32.520 --> 0:19:36.640
<v Speaker 1>called International Business Machines or IBM UM. And by now,

0:19:36.960 --> 0:19:39.439
<v Speaker 1>so this is ten years after he's he's taken the reins.

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<v Speaker 1>The the gross income for the company is that remember

0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:46.760
<v Speaker 1>it was at four million before, it's at eleven million

0:19:46.840 --> 0:19:49.320
<v Speaker 1>now with the net earnings of around two million. And

0:19:49.680 --> 0:19:52.600
<v Speaker 1>there there's more than three thousand employees, so they've essentially

0:19:52.640 --> 0:19:55.600
<v Speaker 1>doubled the size of the number of employees that that

0:19:55.600 --> 0:20:00.119
<v Speaker 1>that they hired. Yes, now, UM, going back to for

0:20:00.160 --> 0:20:02.960
<v Speaker 1>a second, to holler his his tabu lighting machines used

0:20:02.960 --> 0:20:05.960
<v Speaker 1>punched cards, which we've talked about in the past. Um.

0:20:06.240 --> 0:20:09.760
<v Speaker 1>In nine they introduced the first electric key punch. Now

0:20:10.119 --> 0:20:12.560
<v Speaker 1>to record information on these punch cards, you have to

0:20:12.560 --> 0:20:17.600
<v Speaker 1>have something that pops out. The little chats um actually

0:20:17.760 --> 0:20:20.600
<v Speaker 1>just punches a hole in the right spot. Right. Originally

0:20:20.640 --> 0:20:22.920
<v Speaker 1>they did use a circular punch like you would see

0:20:22.920 --> 0:20:25.680
<v Speaker 1>in you know, a traditional hole punch. UM, but they

0:20:25.680 --> 0:20:29.320
<v Speaker 1>were they were becoming more sophisticated, adding this functionality along

0:20:29.359 --> 0:20:33.680
<v Speaker 1>as they went. UM and Uh. The punched card could

0:20:33.680 --> 0:20:37.760
<v Speaker 1>now hold as much as eighty columns worth of information UM,

0:20:37.760 --> 0:20:42.120
<v Speaker 1>which also helped out significantly with what they could do. UM.

0:20:42.160 --> 0:20:43.760
<v Speaker 1>And then of course we're getting close to the Great

0:20:43.760 --> 0:20:47.359
<v Speaker 1>Depression in ninety. Yeah, here's an interesting thing. So in

0:20:47.440 --> 0:20:50.359
<v Speaker 1>nineteen thirty you get the Great Depression, but IBM still

0:20:50.440 --> 0:20:53.480
<v Speaker 1>does pretty well. Right, they're not they're not hurting as

0:20:53.480 --> 0:20:56.000
<v Speaker 1>badly as other companies. In fact, at that point their

0:20:56.040 --> 0:20:59.720
<v Speaker 1>gross income was nineteen million dollars and their net earnings

0:20:59.800 --> 0:21:03.760
<v Speaker 1>seven million dollars with sixty three hundred employees. So IBM

0:21:03.840 --> 0:21:06.280
<v Speaker 1>is actually employing people at the same time the other

0:21:06.440 --> 0:21:09.440
<v Speaker 1>folks are finding themselves out of work. So IBM was

0:21:09.480 --> 0:21:11.919
<v Speaker 1>actually doing quite well well. Of course, you know at

0:21:11.960 --> 0:21:15.280
<v Speaker 1>that time people were laying people off because they couldn't

0:21:15.280 --> 0:21:18.760
<v Speaker 1>afford we're going out of business entirely. Um. Meanwhile, this

0:21:18.800 --> 0:21:21.480
<v Speaker 1>would these machines would help people streamline their business efforts.

0:21:21.520 --> 0:21:24.399
<v Speaker 1>They wouldn't have to hire as many humans to do

0:21:24.440 --> 0:21:27.240
<v Speaker 1>the works well, and I mean they kept on developing

0:21:27.240 --> 0:21:30.200
<v Speaker 1>other things. They developed a public address and signaling system

0:21:30.240 --> 0:21:36.080
<v Speaker 1>for schools. They called it the schoolmaster's joke. That just sounds.

0:21:36.119 --> 0:21:39.320
<v Speaker 1>That just sounds so I don't know, sinister anyway. So

0:21:40.880 --> 0:21:44.080
<v Speaker 1>now we're two decades out from when Watson took control.

0:21:44.200 --> 0:21:47.320
<v Speaker 1>They remember they're grossing around nineteen million and earning around

0:21:47.359 --> 0:21:49.600
<v Speaker 1>seven millions. That's a much more than the four million

0:21:49.600 --> 0:21:52.600
<v Speaker 1>and one million from two decades before. And they're employing

0:21:52.640 --> 0:21:57.560
<v Speaker 1>seven thousand, six hundred thirteen people. So yeah, the company,

0:21:57.680 --> 0:22:00.639
<v Speaker 1>the company is really doing well and the development is

0:22:00.640 --> 0:22:03.439
<v Speaker 1>really just gonna explode over the next few decades, like

0:22:03.480 --> 0:22:06.000
<v Speaker 1>to the point where it's it's almost impossible to believe

0:22:06.600 --> 0:22:10.720
<v Speaker 1>how big it got. I had my first snicker moment

0:22:11.320 --> 0:22:17.439
<v Speaker 1>U because it apparently they decided to divest themselves of

0:22:17.520 --> 0:22:23.040
<v Speaker 1>the Scale division. So they sold it to Hobart, which

0:22:23.560 --> 0:22:25.639
<v Speaker 1>if you if you're thinking back and going, I know,

0:22:25.720 --> 0:22:28.840
<v Speaker 1>I know that name, it's because they're still in business

0:22:29.680 --> 0:22:32.879
<v Speaker 1>and it's apparently from from want to understand, Mr Watson

0:22:32.920 --> 0:22:36.360
<v Speaker 1>was a little concerned because, as it turns out, immediately

0:22:36.880 --> 0:22:39.680
<v Speaker 1>that business took off after the after they got rid

0:22:39.680 --> 0:22:43.800
<v Speaker 1>of it. So well there you go at. They can't

0:22:43.800 --> 0:22:46.800
<v Speaker 1>always do everything well all the time, right, well, you know,

0:22:47.560 --> 0:22:49.400
<v Speaker 1>they made it a decision based on what they thought

0:22:49.440 --> 0:22:56.120
<v Speaker 1>would happen, and in five IBM introduced the International Proof Machine,

0:22:56.440 --> 0:23:00.439
<v Speaker 1>which synchronized twenty four adding machines together, and it was

0:23:00.520 --> 0:23:04.159
<v Speaker 1>meant to process checks in banks as meant as a

0:23:04.200 --> 0:23:07.680
<v Speaker 1>processing system behind the scenes, but eventually people found other

0:23:07.800 --> 0:23:09.840
<v Speaker 1>uses for it and you could think of it as

0:23:09.840 --> 0:23:13.600
<v Speaker 1>a precursor to the computer. Um it could only do.

0:23:14.359 --> 0:23:16.480
<v Speaker 1>It had a limited number of operations that could do

0:23:16.760 --> 0:23:19.320
<v Speaker 1>and uh, it wasn't a true computer in the sense

0:23:19.359 --> 0:23:22.600
<v Speaker 1>that we think of today, but it showed that by

0:23:22.720 --> 0:23:26.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, IBM was thinking, how can we create more

0:23:26.960 --> 0:23:31.120
<v Speaker 1>sophisticated devices without necessarily making bigger ones. In this case,

0:23:31.119 --> 0:23:35.359
<v Speaker 1>it was linking lots of lots of different adding machines together. Now,

0:23:35.720 --> 0:23:38.320
<v Speaker 1>keeping think about what we're talking about here. As we're

0:23:38.359 --> 0:23:41.119
<v Speaker 1>going on through this timeline, IBM is finding ways to

0:23:41.240 --> 0:23:45.680
<v Speaker 1>make crunching numbers easier. They're they're finding new ways to

0:23:45.680 --> 0:23:48.040
<v Speaker 1>to compress the number of items you could put in

0:23:48.040 --> 0:23:51.439
<v Speaker 1>a punch card. They're finding new ways to link machines

0:23:51.480 --> 0:23:55.639
<v Speaker 1>together to increase processing power with these machines. And no,

0:23:55.760 --> 0:23:58.040
<v Speaker 1>we don't think of that in terms of again, the

0:23:58.080 --> 0:24:02.359
<v Speaker 1>IBM laptops that we're using as we record the podcast

0:24:02.400 --> 0:24:05.640
<v Speaker 1>obviously have far more processing power than that. But gradually,

0:24:05.680 --> 0:24:08.160
<v Speaker 1>over time they're innovating and coming up with new ideas.

0:24:09.160 --> 0:24:11.160
<v Speaker 1>In thirty five they also came up with the first

0:24:11.280 --> 0:24:17.120
<v Speaker 1>successful electric typewriter. Yep, yep. So now we'll get more

0:24:17.160 --> 0:24:20.119
<v Speaker 1>into the electric typewriters. A little later in thirty seven

0:24:20.320 --> 0:24:24.439
<v Speaker 1>they introduced a test scoring machine. Um, so this is

0:24:24.520 --> 0:24:27.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of all you folks out there get to play

0:24:27.080 --> 0:24:30.280
<v Speaker 1>those take those standardized tests. This is sort of the

0:24:30.320 --> 0:24:33.640
<v Speaker 1>grandfather to those machines, the Scantron type stuff. But this

0:24:33.720 --> 0:24:35.840
<v Speaker 1>is this was a little earlier than that, but still

0:24:35.920 --> 0:24:40.760
<v Speaker 1>same principle. They came out with the pencil marks sensing reproducer,

0:24:41.040 --> 0:24:45.080
<v Speaker 1>which reproducer. Uh yeah, of course everyone's taking these tests

0:24:45.080 --> 0:24:49.080
<v Speaker 1>on computers now. So in between thirty seven and forty

0:24:49.119 --> 0:24:51.760
<v Speaker 1>there's a little event, big event. We have a little

0:24:51.760 --> 0:24:55.280
<v Speaker 1>big event. Yeah. So world War two here's where we

0:24:55.320 --> 0:24:58.760
<v Speaker 1>got to get in some problematic stuff. There was an

0:24:58.760 --> 0:25:03.520
<v Speaker 1>IBM subsidiary company called de Homag Deutsch hollerth Machine and

0:25:03.680 --> 0:25:07.000
<v Speaker 1>Gazelle Shuft and that was the that was the full name.

0:25:07.600 --> 0:25:11.200
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, just just as an aside um, Mr hollow

0:25:11.200 --> 0:25:14.600
<v Speaker 1>Earth had been working on building the business internationally even

0:25:14.680 --> 0:25:18.639
<v Speaker 1>before he sold tod CTR, so you know they he

0:25:18.720 --> 0:25:21.680
<v Speaker 1>had businesses around the world already. Now they were small,

0:25:22.240 --> 0:25:25.240
<v Speaker 1>but they were divisions of his company, and yes, this

0:25:25.320 --> 0:25:26.840
<v Speaker 1>is one of them. So yeah, this was kind of

0:25:26.840 --> 0:25:31.199
<v Speaker 1>an IBM subsidiary that Hollerwath actually ended up selling of

0:25:31.240 --> 0:25:34.280
<v Speaker 1>the company back to IBM because the company was in

0:25:34.320 --> 0:25:40.040
<v Speaker 1>some financial problems. World War One bankrupted Germany, right, I

0:25:40.040 --> 0:25:43.840
<v Speaker 1>mean Germany was in dire economic straits after World War

0:25:43.880 --> 0:25:47.240
<v Speaker 1>One and this this company was affected by that. So

0:25:48.200 --> 0:25:50.440
<v Speaker 1>part of in order to stay solvent, they sold ninety

0:25:50.440 --> 0:25:53.200
<v Speaker 1>pc of the company back to IBM. So IBM owns

0:25:53.240 --> 0:25:56.439
<v Speaker 1>this company. And here's where things get really dark and murky.

0:25:56.720 --> 0:25:59.320
<v Speaker 1>There's an author and researcher by the name of Edwin

0:25:59.400 --> 0:26:02.200
<v Speaker 1>Black who wrote a full book about IBM and its

0:26:02.280 --> 0:26:06.639
<v Speaker 1>role possibly connected to the Holocaust, and now Black alleges

0:26:07.119 --> 0:26:11.560
<v Speaker 1>that IBM was not just um uh aware of what

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<v Speaker 1>was happening, but somewhat complicit in what was happening. Ibm

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<v Speaker 1>UH They they obviously do not agree with that assessment.

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<v Speaker 1>And in fact, the more you know about Watson, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I didn't know these people clearly, but

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<v Speaker 1>the more I learned about Watson, the less I was

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<v Speaker 1>convinced that he was the sort of person who would

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<v Speaker 1>actively be complicit in this. But here's what happened. Dio

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<v Speaker 1>magg made this tabulation uh products and Hitler was very

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<v Speaker 1>much interested in getting to know exactly how many Jews

0:26:47.320 --> 0:26:50.160
<v Speaker 1>were in Germany at the time, and so they were

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<v Speaker 1>using this tabulating process to track people, to to classify

0:26:54.920 --> 0:26:58.480
<v Speaker 1>people as either being Jewish or not Jewish. And by

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<v Speaker 1>classifying generations of people, they could actually track people back

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<v Speaker 1>if they if they claim that they weren't Jewish, they

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the Germans could look at the generation before

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<v Speaker 1>the generation before them and see if there were any

0:27:09.560 --> 0:27:12.560
<v Speaker 1>Jewish ancestors and if there were those, you know, the

0:27:12.720 --> 0:27:16.400
<v Speaker 1>people would be classified as being Jewish. This came into

0:27:16.400 --> 0:27:20.000
<v Speaker 1>play both in the ghettoization of the Jewish communities where

0:27:20.359 --> 0:27:24.560
<v Speaker 1>Jews were pushed into ghettos and then later during the

0:27:24.600 --> 0:27:30.080
<v Speaker 1>actual Holocaust. So Dio mag was played a big part

0:27:30.400 --> 0:27:34.439
<v Speaker 1>in in the third Reich's plan to to eliminate the Jews.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's a tragic, horrible story. And Black in his

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<v Speaker 1>book alleges that Watson himself was part of this, that

0:27:42.680 --> 0:27:44.960
<v Speaker 1>he was taking advantage of the situation in order to

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<v Speaker 1>make a profit. Uh, there is some stuff that kind

0:27:49.000 --> 0:27:53.600
<v Speaker 1>of points to Watson being uh at least at least

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<v Speaker 1>a part plays a part in this, and that Hitler

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<v Speaker 1>awarded Watson a medal. It was the Eagle with Star Metal.

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<v Speaker 1>But I should point out that in n Watson returned

0:28:04.359 --> 0:28:08.320
<v Speaker 1>the medal. He had been torn by this because apparently,

0:28:08.480 --> 0:28:11.439
<v Speaker 1>at least according to IBM, Watson at first thought that

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<v Speaker 1>the medal was on behalf of his work to try

0:28:14.800 --> 0:28:19.040
<v Speaker 1>and establish world peace, because Watson actually was concerned about

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<v Speaker 1>creating a peaceful global environment, and that when he became

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<v Speaker 1>convinced that that was not the case, he felt that

0:28:27.119 --> 0:28:29.440
<v Speaker 1>it was necessary to return the medal, which in turn

0:28:29.520 --> 0:28:33.720
<v Speaker 1>infuriated Hitler and reportedly Hitler then said that Watson would

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<v Speaker 1>never again be welcome in Germany. Uh once the United

0:28:38.160 --> 0:28:41.280
<v Speaker 1>States and Germany entered World War two. Once once the

0:28:41.320 --> 0:28:44.440
<v Speaker 1>war was declared between the two countries, Germany took control

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<v Speaker 1>of De Homag and it was no longer under ibm

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<v Speaker 1>s control at all. It was completely under German government control.

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<v Speaker 1>So how involved was IBM. According to IBM, they were,

0:28:57.920 --> 0:29:00.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, it was a subsidiary company. They did not

0:29:00.680 --> 0:29:03.880
<v Speaker 1>have control over it. They had owned they owned um

0:29:04.080 --> 0:29:06.280
<v Speaker 1>interest in it, but they were not the ones making

0:29:06.280 --> 0:29:10.640
<v Speaker 1>the decisions. So it's it's, like I said, a murky,

0:29:10.720 --> 0:29:13.960
<v Speaker 1>complicated part of IBM's past, and it's if you read

0:29:14.080 --> 0:29:17.320
<v Speaker 1>Edwin Black's book, it paints a much darker picture for

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<v Speaker 1>IBM than what IBM says. I honestly don't know the truth.

0:29:21.880 --> 0:29:24.200
<v Speaker 1>I cannot. I'm not going to pass judgment because I

0:29:24.240 --> 0:29:28.240
<v Speaker 1>don't know. And also I should add that Watson has

0:29:28.640 --> 0:29:33.280
<v Speaker 1>had really backed a lot of humanitarian efforts before and

0:29:33.480 --> 0:29:36.400
<v Speaker 1>after World War Two, which again kind of suggests that

0:29:36.440 --> 0:29:40.680
<v Speaker 1>he was not taking this complicit role. Right. Um, what

0:29:40.760 --> 0:29:43.600
<v Speaker 1>I just meant to say was that there are situations

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<v Speaker 1>regarding many companies and individuals and it's unclear, uh, you

0:29:48.800 --> 0:29:51.240
<v Speaker 1>know many people I've read about and which you know,

0:29:51.440 --> 0:29:54.240
<v Speaker 1>how much they knew about what was truly going on,

0:29:54.520 --> 0:29:57.600
<v Speaker 1>how whether or not they were being recruited to the cause,

0:29:57.680 --> 0:30:01.800
<v Speaker 1>whether they were being uh and bridge to supply continue

0:30:01.840 --> 0:30:05.040
<v Speaker 1>supplying when it was obvious that, um, there was a

0:30:05.080 --> 0:30:08.000
<v Speaker 1>genocide going on. And and IBM for its part, also

0:30:08.080 --> 0:30:11.880
<v Speaker 1>began to work very closely with the United States military

0:30:11.960 --> 0:30:17.440
<v Speaker 1>in producing various parts and pieces that were being used

0:30:17.440 --> 0:30:22.040
<v Speaker 1>in military applications. So there's that as well well the

0:30:22.040 --> 0:30:26.320
<v Speaker 1>the I know that the United States used IBM equipment

0:30:26.360 --> 0:30:30.840
<v Speaker 1>to work on codebreaking. Yep, so that's that's certainly were

0:30:30.880 --> 0:30:34.520
<v Speaker 1>contributing to the Allied war effort, certainly, yes, yes, So

0:30:34.840 --> 0:30:40.800
<v Speaker 1>moving beyond that that horrible story, UM, IBM really in

0:30:40.840 --> 0:30:45.080
<v Speaker 1>the in the forties began to work on developing calculators

0:30:45.120 --> 0:30:47.760
<v Speaker 1>that that became a big focus of IBM's business. They

0:30:47.760 --> 0:30:51.200
<v Speaker 1>were still working on tabulating and time recording devices as

0:30:51.240 --> 0:30:56.080
<v Speaker 1>well as various other kinds of adding machines and uh

0:30:56.200 --> 0:31:00.760
<v Speaker 1>they uh they founded the Watson Science of Fit Computing

0:31:00.920 --> 0:31:05.200
<v Speaker 1>laboratory at Columbia University in New York. That that's true,

0:31:05.280 --> 0:31:07.959
<v Speaker 1>that's true. UM, yeah, not too long before that, shortly

0:31:07.960 --> 0:31:13.920
<v Speaker 1>before the war's in, IBM uh gave a large scale computer,

0:31:14.000 --> 0:31:16.840
<v Speaker 1>the first of its kind to the called the Automatic

0:31:16.880 --> 0:31:21.040
<v Speaker 1>Sequence Controlled Calculator to Harvard UM. So they're certainly an

0:31:21.080 --> 0:31:24.400
<v Speaker 1>interested in education at that point. So we're getting close

0:31:24.440 --> 0:31:27.840
<v Speaker 1>to wrapping up this first episode of the IBM history

0:31:27.880 --> 0:31:31.240
<v Speaker 1>and the reason for that is we're very quickly approaching

0:31:31.400 --> 0:31:35.520
<v Speaker 1>the time when IBM introduces the first production computer for

0:31:35.600 --> 0:31:39.160
<v Speaker 1>scientific calculations, which is the seven oh one, and that

0:31:39.200 --> 0:31:42.800
<v Speaker 1>was introduced in nineteen fifty two. We'll we'll probably pick

0:31:42.880 --> 0:31:45.560
<v Speaker 1>up I would say, probably at the seven oh one

0:31:45.600 --> 0:31:49.320
<v Speaker 1>for our next podcast, and we'll we'll move up to uh.

0:31:49.480 --> 0:31:51.480
<v Speaker 1>I think we'll go from the seven oh one to

0:31:51.920 --> 0:31:57.240
<v Speaker 1>just before the the personal computer era for IBM because,

0:31:57.280 --> 0:31:59.880
<v Speaker 1>like we said, this company very large, has a very

0:32:00.080 --> 0:32:04.760
<v Speaker 1>long and and storied history. UM. And you know this again,

0:32:05.080 --> 0:32:07.920
<v Speaker 1>this was like the cliffs Notes version to the cliffs

0:32:07.960 --> 0:32:12.200
<v Speaker 1>Notes version to IBM's history, because you can't cover everything

0:32:12.240 --> 0:32:14.400
<v Speaker 1>they've done unless you were to do you can dedicate

0:32:14.400 --> 0:32:18.080
<v Speaker 1>a full podcast just IBM like not not not an episode,

0:32:18.360 --> 0:32:22.120
<v Speaker 1>an entire podcast. Yes, yes, and I mean there are

0:32:22.120 --> 0:32:26.160
<v Speaker 1>other important computing developments going on here, like um, uh,

0:32:26.200 --> 0:32:29.240
<v Speaker 1>the very large project at the More School of Electrical

0:32:29.240 --> 0:32:32.719
<v Speaker 1>Engineering at the University of Pennsylvania. Uh, you know in

0:32:32.760 --> 0:32:35.400
<v Speaker 1>the late nineteen four mid late nineteen FOURI is called

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, maybe you've heard of it, Aniac, I

0:32:38.800 --> 0:32:44.880
<v Speaker 1>think so. Wasn't that a muppet? Um? Yes, I have,

0:32:45.000 --> 0:32:48.320
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, there are This is a period of advanced

0:32:48.880 --> 0:32:53.240
<v Speaker 1>advanced scientific development as far as computers are concerned. Um,

0:32:53.280 --> 0:32:57.480
<v Speaker 1>the code breaking, the skills that computer programmers were using

0:32:57.520 --> 0:33:01.440
<v Speaker 1>and trying to break codes, um, and trying to advance

0:33:01.480 --> 0:33:05.680
<v Speaker 1>computing development, this is all accelerating an immense pace at

0:33:05.680 --> 0:33:08.520
<v Speaker 1>this point. Yeah. We we've reached the level of mechanic

0:33:08.600 --> 0:33:12.880
<v Speaker 1>electro mechanical computers already, and electronic computers are right around

0:33:12.880 --> 0:33:16.600
<v Speaker 1>the bend. So let's let's conclude this episode. We will

0:33:16.640 --> 0:33:19.960
<v Speaker 1>pick up in nineteen fifty two and we will move

0:33:20.000 --> 0:33:22.680
<v Speaker 1>on from there. And uh, you know, you guys, if

0:33:22.720 --> 0:33:25.320
<v Speaker 1>you have if you would like us to cover specific

0:33:25.400 --> 0:33:29.600
<v Speaker 1>companies that are were, you know, are or were instrumental

0:33:29.640 --> 0:33:32.920
<v Speaker 1>in the technology fields, let us know. We've talked before

0:33:32.960 --> 0:33:35.920
<v Speaker 1>about companies like Apple and Microsoft, and both of those

0:33:35.960 --> 0:33:39.600
<v Speaker 1>will come up pretty soon in this podcast series. Um,

0:33:39.840 --> 0:33:42.160
<v Speaker 1>and let's you know, if you if there's some other company,

0:33:42.280 --> 0:33:45.600
<v Speaker 1>maybe Intel or A and D or uh, you know,

0:33:45.800 --> 0:33:48.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, Infocom, anything you want to hear about,

0:33:48.480 --> 0:33:50.440
<v Speaker 1>let us know. We will. We will look into it

0:33:50.480 --> 0:33:53.760
<v Speaker 1>and cover it. Perhaps not all of them will warrant,

0:33:54.000 --> 0:33:57.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, multi episodes like IBM does, but we're happy

0:33:57.280 --> 0:33:59.600
<v Speaker 1>to cover them, and we'll probably have to move off

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<v Speaker 1>and do some thing else for a while, come back

0:34:01.120 --> 0:34:03.800
<v Speaker 1>and do another company podcast. Yeah, yeah, no, we'll we'll

0:34:03.800 --> 0:34:07.600
<v Speaker 1>definitely put some space between these IBM episodes and the

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<v Speaker 1>next focus on a company, because you know, we don't

0:34:10.520 --> 0:34:13.400
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