WEBVTT - | Ep 71 | Shady Preacher (feat. Jamal Bryant)

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Reasonably Shady, a production of the Black Effect

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<v Speaker 1>Podcast Network and I Heart Radio. Welcome to another episode

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<v Speaker 1>of Reasonably Shity. I am just elf Ryan. What's up?

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<v Speaker 1>What's up? Everyone? This is Robin Dixon. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>being here. Yes, thank you, thank Yeah. Everybody should be

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<v Speaker 1>like nice and full and happy or mad. We're mad

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<v Speaker 1>because they got into a fight with their family, like

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<v Speaker 1>happy Thanksgiving exactly like I'm never coming back again. I

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<v Speaker 1>love those family moments. I wish I had some like that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, I actually have had my brother, um

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<v Speaker 1>years ago. He would always be good for a moment

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<v Speaker 1>like that. Would he likes storm out the house? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>Has he ever stormed out? I don't know if he

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<v Speaker 1>ever stormed out, but he would make things just very tense. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>n you can cut that into a NiFe monny who

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<v Speaker 1>it would like carry over for like months, where like

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<v Speaker 1>he stopped talking to people. Oh I love that. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So as a matter of fact, I want to ask

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<v Speaker 1>the folks right now, send us your crazy current like

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<v Speaker 1>this just this past Thanksgiving, like family drama over Thanksgiving. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>give us the t we want the story. So like

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<v Speaker 1>email that to us. Yes, that would be fun. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've had plenty of those with like Wan's family

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<v Speaker 1>when we just yeah, my sister has stormed out a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of times. But anyway, or normally and sometimes when

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<v Speaker 1>back when I was younger and I had a very

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<v Speaker 1>hot temper, it was me really oh yeah, but I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I would eat first, of course, a hot temper

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<v Speaker 1>I used to Yes, anyway, we're moving on anyway, what

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<v Speaker 1>I did, I used to have a very hot I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I would get angry very quickly and then just

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<v Speaker 1>like say what I had to say I had and

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<v Speaker 1>then I didn't have a filter. Now I have a filter.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't get that angry, and I'm a much better person. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Like at what age did this? These were much one?

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<v Speaker 1>So the twenties was like rip roaring yeah yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah yeah. I feel like for me, well I think

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<v Speaker 1>I've said this, well, I don't know. Sometimes it's still here.

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<v Speaker 1>But when once I had kids, I really kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like calmed down. Yes, absolutely, I definitely calmed down. Yeah. Yeah, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>what's your shady moment? Any shady moment? I mean, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm talking to you right now on like less

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<v Speaker 1>than one hour cumulative of sleep. We're working on fumess

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<v Speaker 1>fumes and it is because that one Dixon one what

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<v Speaker 1>did he do? Has no consideration for people sleeping? So okay,

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<v Speaker 1>he's in his basketball season. His team is going on

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<v Speaker 1>a road trip, right, so they're on a two game

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<v Speaker 1>road trip, which means they're gonna be gone you know, one, two, three,

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<v Speaker 1>probably four, four or five days, right, So you know

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<v Speaker 1>he's he always waits till the last minute to pack.

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<v Speaker 1>So he comes into the bedroom midnight. Oh, I gotta pack,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm tired. I'm just gonna lay down for a second. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>is that like? Is that? Is that a second code

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<v Speaker 1>for something? That code for robbing? You pack my clothes? No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't do it. Like he's so particular, like so particular,

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<v Speaker 1>so I can't help him there. But he but and

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<v Speaker 1>keep this in mind, he had to leave the house

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<v Speaker 1>by six am because they were flying out this morning. Right, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so twelve you haven't packed and you're laying down in

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<v Speaker 1>the bed. Not good for a few minutes with you, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So he sets he sets an alarm, Okay for like

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<v Speaker 1>forty five minutes. I don't yeah, I don't even know

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<v Speaker 1>what the time was. So, you know, a doze off

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<v Speaker 1>and what feels like a few minutes later he was

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<v Speaker 1>the alarmed that he's not turned it off. So I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>turn your alarm off, or I'm like, get up. He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, just give me a little more, give me

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<v Speaker 1>a little more time whatever. A few minutes later, he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't get up. He doesn't get up. I swear the

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<v Speaker 1>whole entire night. His alarm went up, like he snoozed

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<v Speaker 1>his alarm the entire night we'd have been fighting. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, so, I'm like, can you turn your alarm?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you get up? Turn your alarm off? He's he

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<v Speaker 1>has a nerve to say, Robin, I'm cool, I said,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm nuts. Yes, you're literally sleeping through this freaking alarm.

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<v Speaker 1>Not I'm cool, Like I'm fine, Yes, okay, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>not the only one in the room. Sorry, I said,

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm not. What then that's right, Actually that's actually

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<v Speaker 1>that's actually absurd. But we love so we won't like trash.

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<v Speaker 1>It's insane, he said. He had the nerve so so so,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm the type like I can't just fall back

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<v Speaker 1>to sleep, you know what I mean. It's like you

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm awaken in the middle of the night. It

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<v Speaker 1>really takes me a long time to fall back to sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like I will finally fall back to sleep

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<v Speaker 1>and then and I'm like, y'all get I would have

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<v Speaker 1>rolled up and punched him straight up whatever, smacked the

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<v Speaker 1>living daylights out of ham. So then he had the

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<v Speaker 1>nerve to say he's like oh, and then of course,

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<v Speaker 1>like once he does get up and starts packing, he's

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<v Speaker 1>all talking and has the light on, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the light fine, I put I put a little eye

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<v Speaker 1>mask on that ship was annoying, Like I don't really

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<v Speaker 1>wear sleep masks, especially because my lashes, you know, the extensions.

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<v Speaker 1>That was uncomfortable. So I'm all tossing and turning it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just it's just a mask. It's a mask. Then

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<v Speaker 1>on top of that, right, so his um convoluted story.

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<v Speaker 1>But my brother in law and the baby, we're here.

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<v Speaker 1>Are they still here? No? No um in January? Right,

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<v Speaker 1>But he spent the night because my brother in law

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<v Speaker 1>was on the coaching staff and they were both going

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<v Speaker 1>to the you know, the airport together. But his wife

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<v Speaker 1>was on a trip, not coming back till tonight. So

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<v Speaker 1>where's the bank? So then I had to wake up

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<v Speaker 1>extra early to get the baby ready for daycare. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this is this is a mess. Okay, so basically you

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<v Speaker 1>had thirty minutes of sleep, okay, per the baby, wand

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<v Speaker 1>Dixon and your brother in law. This is a which

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<v Speaker 1>is And I'm like the whole night, I'm like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my gosh, i gotta work tomorrow. We're going to podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not even gonna know what I'm saying. We got right,

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<v Speaker 1>so right now is disclaimer. Whatever comes out of Robin's mouth,

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<v Speaker 1>just blame it on the lack of sleep. Okay, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>present or extra cranky, yes, blame it on that. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So let me give you my reasonably shading moment of

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<v Speaker 1>the week. Okay, Okay, so you don't have three girls.

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<v Speaker 1>They're in high school. This week is spirit week, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so every day they have to dress up at something.

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<v Speaker 1>So first day, they two days ago, and they participate. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>full at the whole school, full on participate because it's

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<v Speaker 1>like all girls. They all get into it. I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>the school is all girls, so they getn't they it

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<v Speaker 1>into it. A door is the vice president of her class,

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<v Speaker 1>so she's like, okay, making sure they're all into She's

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<v Speaker 1>like picking the themes. Oh yeah. So theme for the

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<v Speaker 1>first day was be your favorite celebrity. Grace decided she

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna be this woman and she needed like a

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<v Speaker 1>blond wig shot on a shirt that said the Real

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<v Speaker 1>Housewives of Potomach. Okay, fine, she was made okay, and

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that was so cute, right untold. She started

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<v Speaker 1>talking and she was like right on the street and uh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right, that's that's what I'm talking about. Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so shady and so horrible. I was so

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<v Speaker 1>angry with her. I was like, okay, I've had it,

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<v Speaker 1>Like after twenty minutes. I was like, I've had a knife,

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<v Speaker 1>and leave my house and stop it. And so like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure all day long, and then she she would

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<v Speaker 1>send me pictures of herself with like her friends all

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<v Speaker 1>day and listen, she up that blond wig on her

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<v Speaker 1>head all days. She was so excited. And I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>if word on the street comes out of your mouth

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<v Speaker 1>one more time, we're gonna fight up in here. You

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<v Speaker 1>see what you did. You did it, I did it.

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<v Speaker 1>You did it. That's hilarius. Okay, wait, so did she

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<v Speaker 1>look like you kind of yeah, yeah, kind of sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean she out of all three of my kids,

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<v Speaker 1>looks the most like me, So yes, I mean she did,

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<v Speaker 1>but she was. It was actually nice because she was

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<v Speaker 1>so excited to do it. But I think she was

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<v Speaker 1>excited to be shape of course, and she came up

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<v Speaker 1>with that or she's like, Mommy, I'm gonna be you.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, okay, this is so nice, and then

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<v Speaker 1>that thing got she got so do you think she

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<v Speaker 1>was she saying that at school to her friends. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure I am. She said all of her teachers loved it,

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<v Speaker 1>like they were. They were excited about it, she said,

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<v Speaker 1>even the um an older lady that's like the chairman

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<v Speaker 1>of the board. The next day she saw Grace and

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<v Speaker 1>she was like, I really liked your costume. You really

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<v Speaker 1>look like your mom. Grace was like very happy, so

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<v Speaker 1>that I mean, it's nice that she loves me enough

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<v Speaker 1>to do it, but she was super shady anyway. But

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<v Speaker 1>we have a super exciting special guest to day, y'all

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<v Speaker 1>get ready, get ready to get ready to get rud

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<v Speaker 1>Who is it? Okay? So, like I said, we have

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<v Speaker 1>this super special sing guest on this show, y'all. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let me give him his his first his credentials. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so he's a more house grad. He is um a

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<v Speaker 1>pastor extraordinaire. Actually, he's the best pastor preacher on the planet,

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<v Speaker 1>on the planet, on the planet. Put all your money

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<v Speaker 1>on it. I will put all my money on it.

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<v Speaker 1>He is. He's actually the senior pastor of New Birth

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<v Speaker 1>Missionary Baptist Church in Atlanta, Georgia. He's the only guy

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<v Speaker 1>I've ever married, the only one, Yes, the only one.

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<v Speaker 1>And he is the father to all three of my kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you say he will continue to be the only

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<v Speaker 1>one and ever I don't know. Well, we shall see,

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<v Speaker 1>but he is. He is the father to all three

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<v Speaker 1>of my kids. Y'all know him as passed to Jamal Harrison, right,

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<v Speaker 1>he is in the bel ding. What is going on?

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<v Speaker 1>Past up? Oh girl robbing answers. I made a promise

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<v Speaker 1>to her about some ice chips. She'll explain. Oh what

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<v Speaker 1>is that with the ice chips? He said, when we

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<v Speaker 1>get older, he's gonna be the feeding me ice ChiPT.

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<v Speaker 1>As I'm laying in the bed like an invalid, he's

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<v Speaker 1>feeding me like I don't know if that's a good

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<v Speaker 1>is that a compliment? And what is that that's a

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<v Speaker 1>high compliment. Yes, that means you are He is with

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<v Speaker 1>you forever, forever. Want Look, let me tell you what

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<v Speaker 1>Want asked me the other day. It's a little graphic.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, are you going to wipe my butts? So

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<v Speaker 1>let me say this to you, Robert. Let me say

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<v Speaker 1>to this, do you Robin? I wouldn't even have my

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<v Speaker 1>feelings hurt to answer to that question. I already know

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<v Speaker 1>the answer. That nurse just in five second said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you're a white man. I mean right, Jamal white mane

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<v Speaker 1>you got the ice chip? You just that's that's your limit. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So we have some first, we have some get to

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<v Speaker 1>know you rapid fire questions. Are you ready? I'm ready?

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<v Speaker 1>Tupac Are Biggie Big Fantasia or Jennifer Hudson Fantasia, Kobe

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<v Speaker 1>Bryant or Michael Jordan's I gotta go to Michael Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>or Thanksgiving? Christmas? Atlanta or Baltimore? What you got? Who's listening?

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone's listening. Baltimore in Atlanta are listening. Yes, yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>with Atlanta. Okay, you're in Atlanta? Okay? Reasonable or shady?

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm? Reasonable? Okay, you're lying? Do you agree with that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't agree with that because I just

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<v Speaker 1>want y'all to know I've known this man for a

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<v Speaker 1>very long time. Half of my shadiness I get from

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<v Speaker 1>Jamal Bryant's in the other half from your dad from

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<v Speaker 1>her day, right, her dad is the black sign fell

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<v Speaker 1>and drive you. But he's gonna shank you in the shower,

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<v Speaker 1>not shake you in the shower. And leave my dad

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<v Speaker 1>out of this. First and foremost. You know you you

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<v Speaker 1>are a preacher extraordinaire and you like say whatever it

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<v Speaker 1>is that you feel, it's in your heart or on

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<v Speaker 1>your mind, and sometimes that allows for the haters to

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<v Speaker 1>hate on you because you know you stand on whatever

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<v Speaker 1>it is that you believe. So over the years, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Rob and I feel like I mean, obviously we we

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<v Speaker 1>have a whole lot of hate that comes our way.

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<v Speaker 1>The evolution of hate ration, Okay, because before social media, um,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know I can speak from experience with just

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<v Speaker 1>being around you. You know, you would get hate in

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<v Speaker 1>the streets of Baltimore by other preachers. You know, you

0:13:12.320 --> 0:13:15.280
<v Speaker 1>were like the golden child. Your your church was growing

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<v Speaker 1>by leaps and bounds, and there's wasn't so how do

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<v Speaker 1>how do you deal with haters? Then the evolution of hating,

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<v Speaker 1>and then like the social media hate of it all. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>John Maxwell said this rapping that if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>be like to sell ice cream, uh, that anything that

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<v Speaker 1>you do outside of that is going to be controversial.

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<v Speaker 1>And we have gotten to a place where we think

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<v Speaker 1>to be famous to be successful, it's anonymous with being adored.

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<v Speaker 1>Reality is there is nobody in public space who doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>get there without critique. And so whether you're dealing with

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<v Speaker 1>politics or an athlete or an entertainer or a preacher,

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<v Speaker 1>if you put yourself off from uh. Dr King said, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're up front and nobody is kicking your behind,

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<v Speaker 1>you're really not leading. So I think it's really the

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<v Speaker 1>litmus tests of finding out who your value is. Did

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<v Speaker 1>you did you always feel that way or did you

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<v Speaker 1>have to Did you have to develop that? No, it's

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<v Speaker 1>perrier water. It is an acquired taste. Um, it is shocking.

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<v Speaker 1>Cornell West said, the most painful thing you'll ever do

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<v Speaker 1>is be hated on by people you love. Uh. And

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<v Speaker 1>so to go through the blows is not robbing white

0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:44.080
<v Speaker 1>supremacists threatened you. It ain't people from the tea party.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's actually is people who you're trying to represent on

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<v Speaker 1>a global stage. Uh. And you're doing it and you're

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<v Speaker 1>not working. You're doing it and you're not being vulgar profane.

0:14:55.680 --> 0:14:59.400
<v Speaker 1>You're raising your children, loving your husband, doing what it

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<v Speaker 1>is that I deal of our people. And then you've

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<v Speaker 1>got to fight through what James Baldwin call survivor is guilt.

0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:10.680
<v Speaker 1>You are made to feel bad because you do well. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And it really just shows how toxic many of our

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<v Speaker 1>people think. Damn that is good, right, Okay, So but Jamal,

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<v Speaker 1>do you feel like something like so you feel like

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<v Speaker 1>we get the we as in as in the black

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<v Speaker 1>community gets the most hate from the black community. It

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<v Speaker 1>just hurts the most. Oh, no doubt about it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The old thing is that hurt people, hurt people. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And I heard a quote this way. Haters are people

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<v Speaker 1>who don't know how to say they love you. So

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people hate you really want to do

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people hate you. I want to take

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<v Speaker 1>your place, And so you've got to see what is

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<v Speaker 1>their level of brokenness. You opened up just I'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>about they hated you because your church is growing in

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<v Speaker 1>the is not and a lot of people we attack

0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:03.800
<v Speaker 1>who we should be learning from. So instead of beating

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<v Speaker 1>me up, aye, Jamal, how did you do this? But

0:16:07.440 --> 0:16:12.040
<v Speaker 1>we're not used to mentorship, we're not used to legitimate friendships.

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<v Speaker 1>Really the straight bullets of social media that when I

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<v Speaker 1>followed you on Facebook, I'm called a friend. You did

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<v Speaker 1>not friend me, you followed me, and it has reduced

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<v Speaker 1>what is the value of what real friendship is? Wow? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I can't say that because because we've talked

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<v Speaker 1>a lot about how you and I both deal with

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<v Speaker 1>social media and just hate and just it just rolls

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<v Speaker 1>off our back. I I want to say that I

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<v Speaker 1>got from Jamal just just being with him when he

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<v Speaker 1>was first starting out and and um pastoring his church

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<v Speaker 1>and just all the negativity that would come his way.

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<v Speaker 1>He just didn't care at all, Like it just didn't

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<v Speaker 1>affect him. And I appreciate it because you know, he

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<v Speaker 1>would just keep it moving and be greater and greater

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<v Speaker 1>every Sunday. He was just greater than the next Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>So thank you, sir, you gave me a little something

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<v Speaker 1>something out here in the streets. No, let me say

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<v Speaker 1>to you, Gazelle one in that vein, how proud of you.

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<v Speaker 1>I am, and I don't mean that in any condescending way.

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<v Speaker 1>My greatest fear when you went on the reality television

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<v Speaker 1>was how were you going to be able to handle

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<v Speaker 1>that level of scrutiny and attack. And you've done it,

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<v Speaker 1>uh in a very graceful fashion that in many ways

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<v Speaker 1>I have been surprised about. But Gizelle and I Robin

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<v Speaker 1>met uh not in church but working in the n

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<v Speaker 1>double a CP. So the people who I looked up

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<v Speaker 1>to were dr King, was Malcolm X, was Adam Clayton

0:17:53.000 --> 0:17:56.679
<v Speaker 1>Powell who was speaking out and Gazelle. Look at the

0:17:56.720 --> 0:18:02.000
<v Speaker 1>contrast um their haters is burning crosses in their front yard,

0:18:03.160 --> 0:18:05.320
<v Speaker 1>was shooting at their wife. All I got to deal

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<v Speaker 1>with is a blogger gets light mparrassing to the people

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<v Speaker 1>who I look up to and what they had been

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, I wasn't coming to you, Grace Angel

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<v Speaker 1>the door black, Hey, we gotta leave at midnight the

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<v Speaker 1>blog because it was just it's just the reality of

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<v Speaker 1>the space that we did. This is the safest hour

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<v Speaker 1>as a civil rightsy leader to be hater. If the

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<v Speaker 1>only thing that you got to be afraid of is

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<v Speaker 1>a keyboard, I can't and I'll take it okay. So

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<v Speaker 1>on that vein, Um, I think the whole world saw

0:18:46.560 --> 0:18:50.000
<v Speaker 1>your takedown of Hershel Walker, like the beginning of your

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<v Speaker 1>sermon and what you talked about Hershel Walker and the

0:18:52.680 --> 0:18:56.080
<v Speaker 1>fact that we don't need him. That thing went viral. Um.

0:18:56.160 --> 0:18:58.359
<v Speaker 1>Andy Cohen saw it, He texts me at eight'clock in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning. I didn't think the n listen to a

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<v Speaker 1>black preacher. Um, you're probably the first black preacher and

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<v Speaker 1>he has ever listened to. Where was it replayed for

0:19:07.520 --> 0:19:09.800
<v Speaker 1>him to get ahold of that? Who God only God

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<v Speaker 1>only knows. Georgia, I need you to know the slave

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<v Speaker 1>nickro j you'll not used to don't live here no more.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't think for ourself, function for ourself, and vote

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<v Speaker 1>for self. Why because we don't need a walker. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>that was amazing, jamal Um. That's that's you know, typical

0:19:33.800 --> 0:19:36.280
<v Speaker 1>best preacher in the whole planet. That's what he does.

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<v Speaker 1>But but now that we have not one in in Georgia,

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<v Speaker 1>are you frustrated with the fact that herscher Walker and

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<v Speaker 1>Warnock they gotta run again? Yeah? No, I'm frustrated, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited the people of Georgia have done it before.

0:19:58.320 --> 0:20:00.800
<v Speaker 1>When Raphael first got elected, we had to go to

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<v Speaker 1>a runoff because gell different from Maryland. You don't win

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<v Speaker 1>in Georgia because you have the highest amount of votes.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to have fifty plus one percent. Uh. So

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<v Speaker 1>Raphael had over I think fifty thousand more votes. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I think that people are really mobilized. One

0:20:20.160 --> 0:20:23.840
<v Speaker 1>thing about black people, Uh, they feel like there's a fight.

0:20:24.680 --> 0:20:27.880
<v Speaker 1>They're coming to watch it. So I think that people

0:20:27.880 --> 0:20:32.320
<v Speaker 1>are mobilized. And it were just unearthed yesterday that if

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<v Speaker 1>Juan hypothetically gave to herschel Walker's campaign a hundred dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>only ten of it went to herschel Walker. Ninety of

0:20:41.880 --> 0:20:45.520
<v Speaker 1>those dollars went to Trump. Isn't it just hit the

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<v Speaker 1>press today, Uh, that he wasn't even getting his money.

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<v Speaker 1>So they've been pump pimping him at a level that

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<v Speaker 1>herschel Walker didn't even know. Wow, speaking speaking to Trump,

0:20:55.640 --> 0:20:58.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, he just decided he was gonna run again.

0:20:58.040 --> 0:21:02.399
<v Speaker 1>Don't you want to like seeing the for frozen? Let go,

0:21:02.640 --> 0:21:07.280
<v Speaker 1>let it go, Let it go, let it go. I mean,

0:21:07.480 --> 0:21:10.800
<v Speaker 1>I just feel like there's no wind in his sales.

0:21:10.880 --> 0:21:12.840
<v Speaker 1>I think that it's a rap and he's the only

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<v Speaker 1>one that doesn't know it. No, I think he is

0:21:16.480 --> 0:21:21.520
<v Speaker 1>a gift to the Democratic Party because it slows down

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<v Speaker 1>everybody else who was a Republican who was thinking about running,

0:21:25.320 --> 0:21:29.680
<v Speaker 1>because he is such a megalomaniac and his ego makes

0:21:29.760 --> 0:21:34.879
<v Speaker 1>him delusional about facts. That's how the midterms didn't go

0:21:34.880 --> 0:21:38.400
<v Speaker 1>in the way that the Republicans thought, because these were

0:21:38.440 --> 0:21:41.480
<v Speaker 1>all Trump candidates. And so I think him saying in

0:21:41.480 --> 0:21:44.159
<v Speaker 1>the race is going to lower the money for the

0:21:44.200 --> 0:21:48.480
<v Speaker 1>Republicans and lower the enthusiasm of that base. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>it will keep me entertained. I will say that. I

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<v Speaker 1>can I tell you, without Trump on my TV screen

0:21:55.359 --> 0:21:57.480
<v Speaker 1>every day, I didn't have as much to laugh about.

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<v Speaker 1>This is very true. I am looking forward to Yes. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>And if you didn't see the Jamal takedown of Hershel Walker,

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<v Speaker 1>just google it child get your entire life. Now, let's

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<v Speaker 1>let's staying on that. On that topic, I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>the one thing and one advantage about uh Warnock and

0:22:14.040 --> 0:22:17.280
<v Speaker 1>Walker running again is that now we can focus all

0:22:17.320 --> 0:22:20.960
<v Speaker 1>of our attention on bringing attention to that very important

0:22:21.000 --> 0:22:23.120
<v Speaker 1>race in Georgia. So you know, we were here Maryland,

0:22:23.119 --> 0:22:25.200
<v Speaker 1>We're pushing for our Maryland candidates. But we can tell

0:22:25.280 --> 0:22:30.840
<v Speaker 1>everybody you know repeatedly to vote for Warnock because I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even who in their right mind can check

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<v Speaker 1>off a box for herschel walkers like I do. I

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<v Speaker 1>just that is the most instant Georgia. Yes, this guy

0:22:43.000 --> 0:22:48.240
<v Speaker 1>can't conjugate a bird. It's just it's pathetic. I listen.

0:22:48.320 --> 0:22:50.159
<v Speaker 1>I was listening to him the other day and I

0:22:50.240 --> 0:22:53.560
<v Speaker 1>was like, I cannot believe that this is reality. But

0:22:53.680 --> 0:22:56.040
<v Speaker 1>now at least we can focus all of our attention

0:22:56.359 --> 0:23:00.520
<v Speaker 1>on making sure he does not get elected. Okay, moving, So,

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<v Speaker 1>Jamal and I have three beautiful daughters, Grace, angel Anna Door. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I love them so much and I'm actually proud of

0:23:07.800 --> 0:23:10.120
<v Speaker 1>my kids, Like I think that they are amazing. They

0:23:10.119 --> 0:23:14.600
<v Speaker 1>are beautiful, amazing, respectful, they are kind, they are Um,

0:23:14.600 --> 0:23:17.080
<v Speaker 1>I just learned. I learned this morning. Um, Jamal, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if you if you know this, that Grace

0:23:19.720 --> 0:23:25.199
<v Speaker 1>takes a class right now currently that is like I

0:23:25.200 --> 0:23:28.800
<v Speaker 1>don't know what it's called, but it's like she helps

0:23:29.840 --> 0:23:33.840
<v Speaker 1>students with special needs. So but the class is about

0:23:34.040 --> 0:23:36.719
<v Speaker 1>like her tutoring them and her helping them. And I

0:23:36.760 --> 0:23:39.239
<v Speaker 1>felt like at her age. If I were when I

0:23:39.280 --> 0:23:42.480
<v Speaker 1>was her age, There's no way in hell that I

0:23:42.520 --> 0:23:45.920
<v Speaker 1>would have the patience to do something like that. I

0:23:47.040 --> 0:23:49.400
<v Speaker 1>credit Jamal. I think she got her patience from you.

0:23:49.920 --> 0:23:52.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, Jamal is very compassionate and he's he has

0:23:52.640 --> 0:23:57.160
<v Speaker 1>a gift for just giving and service. So thank you

0:23:57.000 --> 0:23:59.920
<v Speaker 1>you gave that to Grace because she is. I saw

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<v Speaker 1>her interact with one of the young ladies that go

0:24:03.119 --> 0:24:05.040
<v Speaker 1>to school has with specialties, and Grace was just like

0:24:05.400 --> 0:24:08.600
<v Speaker 1>so amazing. So I give you. I give you all that,

0:24:08.760 --> 0:24:15.960
<v Speaker 1>Mr Bryant. Now, um, I feel like we're able to

0:24:15.960 --> 0:24:19.400
<v Speaker 1>co parent very well. I'm gonna toot my own horn

0:24:19.440 --> 0:24:21.600
<v Speaker 1>a little bit and say that. You know, when Jamal

0:24:21.600 --> 0:24:25.960
<v Speaker 1>and I were first getting a divorce, I decided that

0:24:26.440 --> 0:24:30.000
<v Speaker 1>however mad I was at him was not as important

0:24:30.080 --> 0:24:34.400
<v Speaker 1>as him being in my kid's life. Absolutely, what would

0:24:34.440 --> 0:24:38.160
<v Speaker 1>you think is our our greatest gift to our kids? Jamal?

0:24:38.880 --> 0:24:42.600
<v Speaker 1>We're number one. You are an amazing mother, uh And

0:24:42.760 --> 0:24:47.240
<v Speaker 1>I am eternally indebted for the incredible way that you

0:24:47.359 --> 0:24:51.359
<v Speaker 1>have modeled in front of our girls. And I don't

0:24:51.359 --> 0:24:55.480
<v Speaker 1>want people to think we've just arrived here. This was

0:24:55.720 --> 0:24:57.879
<v Speaker 1>not an easy road to get to wed is that

0:24:58.040 --> 0:25:04.960
<v Speaker 1>we are we are intentional about doing family counseling with

0:25:05.040 --> 0:25:10.080
<v Speaker 1>the girls, uh and with Giselle and I because he

0:25:10.200 --> 0:25:14.679
<v Speaker 1>was here Rashima for a minute, but were it was,

0:25:15.400 --> 0:25:18.960
<v Speaker 1>but we were really committed for the sake of the

0:25:19.000 --> 0:25:23.560
<v Speaker 1>girls on how it is that we will modeled um

0:25:23.640 --> 0:25:27.920
<v Speaker 1>before each other. So we've been divorced with twelve years,

0:25:28.160 --> 0:25:30.280
<v Speaker 1>a lot of a long time, but he's still here.

0:25:30.600 --> 0:25:35.000
<v Speaker 1>He's twelve years and in twelve years, I could only

0:25:35.040 --> 0:25:38.639
<v Speaker 1>think of one major blow up that we've had with

0:25:38.800 --> 0:25:42.040
<v Speaker 1>the girls present. And I'm just thankful on the God

0:25:42.440 --> 0:25:49.240
<v Speaker 1>on uh that you have been mindful of my presence

0:25:49.320 --> 0:25:51.960
<v Speaker 1>and how it is that you have navigated co parenting

0:25:52.280 --> 0:25:56.879
<v Speaker 1>long distance, which is a whole different all the wax,

0:25:57.240 --> 0:25:59.920
<v Speaker 1>but it's been great and so every day as mother's

0:26:00.160 --> 0:26:06.080
<v Speaker 1>and that's really why I'm nice to you. Okay, I

0:26:06.080 --> 0:26:08.320
<v Speaker 1>appreciate that. And this is for people that are going

0:26:08.320 --> 0:26:11.879
<v Speaker 1>through a divorce right now, I um said to Jamal,

0:26:11.920 --> 0:26:14.560
<v Speaker 1>because Jamal travels a lot. You know, I don't know

0:26:14.600 --> 0:26:16.560
<v Speaker 1>what your your calendar and your schedule is now, but

0:26:16.960 --> 0:26:19.200
<v Speaker 1>at the time Jamal would be booked a year out

0:26:19.640 --> 0:26:21.879
<v Speaker 1>for you know, going around the world. He's he's a

0:26:21.880 --> 0:26:24.280
<v Speaker 1>preacher international. He wants me to say that he's a

0:26:24.280 --> 0:26:29.679
<v Speaker 1>globe trotting preacher. Um. And I knew because of his

0:26:29.760 --> 0:26:33.639
<v Speaker 1>schedule that he couldn't have a consistent schedule with the

0:26:33.680 --> 0:26:35.480
<v Speaker 1>girl like he we couldn't do every other weekend or

0:26:35.520 --> 0:26:39.360
<v Speaker 1>anything like that. So I said to him, look, anytime

0:26:39.480 --> 0:26:42.800
<v Speaker 1>it is has something, anytime there is a moment that

0:26:42.880 --> 0:26:45.680
<v Speaker 1>has something to do with the girls, if it's a vacation,

0:26:45.760 --> 0:26:50.879
<v Speaker 1>if it's a dinner, if it's or whatever, you are invited, okay, um.

0:26:50.960 --> 0:26:53.720
<v Speaker 1>And so I always left the window open for him

0:26:53.760 --> 0:26:56.800
<v Speaker 1>to jump in whenever he could, and and he does.

0:26:56.880 --> 0:27:00.000
<v Speaker 1>He jumps in all the time. That's beautiful. I mean, unfortunately,

0:27:00.040 --> 0:27:04.880
<v Speaker 1>so many relationships are they can't get along and they

0:27:04.920 --> 0:27:07.560
<v Speaker 1>can't look at the bigger picture, which is the children

0:27:08.000 --> 0:27:10.160
<v Speaker 1>when they go through a divorce. And so I definitely

0:27:10.160 --> 0:27:12.400
<v Speaker 1>think you all are an example for so many people

0:27:12.400 --> 0:27:14.919
<v Speaker 1>in this world, because people hold on the bitterness and

0:27:15.000 --> 0:27:17.879
<v Speaker 1>anger and it's like, you know, it's just like you

0:27:17.920 --> 0:27:20.040
<v Speaker 1>just gotta let that go and look at the big picture,

0:27:20.080 --> 0:27:22.320
<v Speaker 1>which is the kids. I love my kids more than

0:27:22.320 --> 0:27:24.439
<v Speaker 1>I will ever be mad at that. Man. And now

0:27:24.480 --> 0:27:27.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm not mad at him, no more so anty way. Okay,

0:27:27.720 --> 0:27:34.280
<v Speaker 1>so a couple of things, oh he said this week.

0:27:37.880 --> 0:27:41.240
<v Speaker 1>You know, Jamal is good about not bragging on himself,

0:27:41.680 --> 0:27:44.239
<v Speaker 1>but there's a little bragg I want to do you

0:27:44.320 --> 0:27:47.520
<v Speaker 1>feed the community. When the COVID first started, new Birth

0:27:47.640 --> 0:27:50.560
<v Speaker 1>was very intentional about feeding the community. You have fed

0:27:50.640 --> 0:27:54.040
<v Speaker 1>how many I'm saying it wrong, You have done how many?

0:27:54.080 --> 0:27:58.480
<v Speaker 1>How many? So in the in the pandemic, we started

0:27:58.480 --> 0:28:01.600
<v Speaker 1>giving out grow trees that saying. And uh, just a

0:28:01.720 --> 0:28:06.280
<v Speaker 1>month ago we hit one million families that we give

0:28:06.280 --> 0:28:09.840
<v Speaker 1>groceries to in the last few years. And it is

0:28:10.000 --> 0:28:14.680
<v Speaker 1>great and it is embarrassing to know that food insecurity

0:28:14.960 --> 0:28:19.119
<v Speaker 1>is that dire. And we're just talking about one metropolitan area.

0:28:19.720 --> 0:28:25.400
<v Speaker 1>For Thanksgiving, we're given our five thousand turkeys. Uh. While

0:28:25.480 --> 0:28:28.800
<v Speaker 1>that sounds good in one way, in another way, it's

0:28:28.840 --> 0:28:31.800
<v Speaker 1>saying that it has to be done. Yeah. Now we

0:28:31.920 --> 0:28:38.960
<v Speaker 1>said one million groceries two years, families, one million families,

0:28:39.000 --> 0:28:44.080
<v Speaker 1>one million bags of groceries in two years. Yeah, that's

0:28:44.200 --> 0:28:46.600
<v Speaker 1>fantast that's I remember when I was when we were

0:28:46.600 --> 0:28:48.720
<v Speaker 1>married and I was the first lady of the Parami Temple.

0:28:49.360 --> 0:28:55.600
<v Speaker 1>Um the Women's Ministry that look, you know what, I

0:28:55.680 --> 0:28:59.800
<v Speaker 1>know my next question, the Women's ministry would decided tomorrow

0:28:59.840 --> 0:29:02.520
<v Speaker 1>has his hands over his face, right, it's covering his face.

0:29:02.760 --> 0:29:06.200
<v Speaker 1>We decided to feed as many families as we could

0:29:06.320 --> 0:29:08.720
<v Speaker 1>and literally go to their house, knock on the door

0:29:08.880 --> 0:29:11.360
<v Speaker 1>and give them the food. So I had like a

0:29:11.400 --> 0:29:13.680
<v Speaker 1>bus I had security. I was pregnant the time with

0:29:14.000 --> 0:29:16.840
<v Speaker 1>one of them kids I have and um, and I

0:29:16.880 --> 0:29:18.440
<v Speaker 1>was going knocking on doors. So it's like I was

0:29:18.440 --> 0:29:21.000
<v Speaker 1>in the hood of Baltimore knocking on doors. You did

0:29:21.000 --> 0:29:25.000
<v Speaker 1>not know what was gonna open the door. All kinds

0:29:25.040 --> 0:29:29.200
<v Speaker 1>of things was opening the door as I was. Yes,

0:29:29.840 --> 0:29:31.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean obviously we were blessing them, but it was

0:29:31.520 --> 0:29:35.000
<v Speaker 1>such a blessing to me to be able to give

0:29:35.080 --> 0:29:37.600
<v Speaker 1>them what the Church gave them. And for me, like

0:29:37.640 --> 0:29:39.840
<v Speaker 1>they would invite me in. It would be like a

0:29:39.840 --> 0:29:42.440
<v Speaker 1>weed infestive smelling house, and they would invite me in,

0:29:42.640 --> 0:29:44.080
<v Speaker 1>and I would pray with him a little bit and

0:29:44.120 --> 0:29:46.680
<v Speaker 1>I would say Happy Thanksgiving. But we made sure that

0:29:46.680 --> 0:29:50.440
<v Speaker 1>we gave them food from Thanksgiving to Christmas. Wow, so right,

0:29:50.640 --> 0:29:53.480
<v Speaker 1>enough food for for to last at least a month.

0:29:54.360 --> 0:29:56.440
<v Speaker 1>So yes, as that's what I did as first lady

0:29:56.440 --> 0:29:59.880
<v Speaker 1>at a pome that it's fantastic. So look, speaking of

0:30:00.000 --> 0:30:03.160
<v Speaker 1>Gazelle being first lady at Empowerment Temple, tell us, jamalro

0:30:03.240 --> 0:30:09.640
<v Speaker 1>how was gall as a first lady? There's a pause.

0:30:11.000 --> 0:30:16.120
<v Speaker 1>No, no no, no, So Gazelle was not a Mother Teresa

0:30:16.200 --> 0:30:19.800
<v Speaker 1>first lady. Hit her head. She was a Michelle Obama

0:30:19.840 --> 0:30:28.200
<v Speaker 1>first lady. Yes, yes, she was coming in waving Abama

0:30:28.240 --> 0:30:33.400
<v Speaker 1>before I was not waving to the it she was.

0:30:34.240 --> 0:30:38.200
<v Speaker 1>She was the Black Princess due. She did a great job. Okay, well,

0:30:38.200 --> 0:30:40.840
<v Speaker 1>while we're on that that note, she did our first

0:30:40.880 --> 0:30:46.320
<v Speaker 1>women's conference. Yes, um, she did a whole lot of mentoring.

0:30:46.360 --> 0:30:49.719
<v Speaker 1>A lot of the young girls came to her from

0:30:49.800 --> 0:30:52.600
<v Speaker 1>mentoring a lot of the young ladies who had come

0:30:52.680 --> 0:30:57.080
<v Speaker 1>to Baltimore to go to either Copping or Morgan really

0:30:57.360 --> 0:31:01.040
<v Speaker 1>pulled on her. She wrote a whole lot of a

0:31:01.200 --> 0:31:06.880
<v Speaker 1>k letters half for the Aks in Baltimore, letters from Gazelle. Listen,

0:31:06.920 --> 0:31:09.560
<v Speaker 1>I was the bomb, okay even back then. Now now

0:31:10.200 --> 0:31:12.840
<v Speaker 1>I want to say, there's some things that I missed

0:31:13.800 --> 0:31:16.480
<v Speaker 1>not being married to Jamal Bran Okay, okay, which is

0:31:16.880 --> 0:31:19.000
<v Speaker 1>one of the things I used to complain about. I

0:31:19.000 --> 0:31:23.000
<v Speaker 1>think I now message. Okay, So you know, like I said,

0:31:23.080 --> 0:31:25.640
<v Speaker 1>Jamal travels a lot, so he would have to get

0:31:25.720 --> 0:31:28.520
<v Speaker 1>his his suits and his ties and his shirts together

0:31:29.040 --> 0:31:32.560
<v Speaker 1>before he would go on his trips. So he would

0:31:32.600 --> 0:31:35.080
<v Speaker 1>always be like, wake me up out of my sleep.

0:31:35.360 --> 0:31:37.640
<v Speaker 1>Now you want to be sleep, and when you sleep,

0:31:37.720 --> 0:31:40.040
<v Speaker 1>leave me alone. But he would wake me up, turn

0:31:40.080 --> 0:31:44.480
<v Speaker 1>on all the lights. He would say, Gazelle, does this

0:31:44.560 --> 0:31:47.000
<v Speaker 1>suit go with this time? But does this shirt go

0:31:47.080 --> 0:31:49.680
<v Speaker 1>with this tie? In this suit? Okay, wait a minute,

0:31:49.720 --> 0:31:51.520
<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, wait a minute, let me get three

0:31:51.520 --> 0:31:55.640
<v Speaker 1>other ties. Okay, these three ties go with this five shirts.

0:31:55.760 --> 0:31:57.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean it was like, so you missed this. Now

0:31:58.440 --> 0:32:01.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying, Robert, she's as given you half her store.

0:32:02.560 --> 0:32:05.920
<v Speaker 1>What she misses that I was picking her clothes out,

0:32:06.800 --> 0:32:11.280
<v Speaker 1>That's what she misses. When I was picking her clothes

0:32:11.320 --> 0:32:16.760
<v Speaker 1>out robbing. She wasn't in no blog only time when

0:32:16.840 --> 0:32:19.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't pick it out. Oh my god. Okay, the

0:32:19.160 --> 0:32:22.960
<v Speaker 1>same we brought us off robing. I need you to

0:32:23.000 --> 0:32:26.440
<v Speaker 1>be robbing. You gotta be up with was my first

0:32:26.480 --> 0:32:31.760
<v Speaker 1>stylist of truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, robbing.

0:32:31.920 --> 0:32:35.160
<v Speaker 1>When I first met you, where did I meet you.

0:32:35.160 --> 0:32:40.920
<v Speaker 1>You met me at the where did I first meet you? Rob? Yes?

0:32:41.120 --> 0:32:47.920
<v Speaker 1>It as Sacks, yes, true, yes, Sacks yes, yes. So

0:32:48.040 --> 0:32:51.360
<v Speaker 1>she does not miss picking out my ties. She misses

0:32:51.400 --> 0:32:53.920
<v Speaker 1>me dressing her. That's what she's not going to give

0:32:54.320 --> 0:32:58.600
<v Speaker 1>confession to. Okay, this is this is a breaking moment. Yes,

0:32:58.640 --> 0:33:01.960
<v Speaker 1>Jamal Bryant was my first style list really, yes, okay

0:33:02.080 --> 0:33:08.479
<v Speaker 1>my last right and you're only my only yes. Okay.

0:33:08.720 --> 0:33:11.240
<v Speaker 1>See that was one of my One of my questions

0:33:11.240 --> 0:33:13.080
<v Speaker 1>for Jamaal was how does he go about picking his

0:33:13.160 --> 0:33:16.200
<v Speaker 1>outfits out? Because you know, you look nice and sharp now,

0:33:16.240 --> 0:33:19.160
<v Speaker 1>but I've seen sometimes you have, like, you know, a

0:33:19.280 --> 0:33:22.360
<v Speaker 1>pink tie and a pink silky shirt. Talking about them

0:33:22.400 --> 0:33:25.120
<v Speaker 1>Detroit Player suits you had, Okay, you had some plenty

0:33:25.160 --> 0:33:28.200
<v Speaker 1>of Detroit Player suits. Do you do you have a tailor,

0:33:28.280 --> 0:33:31.840
<v Speaker 1>and you're just like, give me one and every color,

0:33:32.280 --> 0:33:37.840
<v Speaker 1>give me everything, in every color, in every print, what

0:33:37.920 --> 0:33:41.239
<v Speaker 1>the shade is coming. It's a work in progress. So

0:33:41.360 --> 0:33:45.480
<v Speaker 1>when I was at U Detroit, uh, that's when I

0:33:45.480 --> 0:33:49.160
<v Speaker 1>started wearing gagos So when I met Gazelle, I had

0:33:49.280 --> 0:33:53.000
<v Speaker 1>different color gators for every suit. Gazelle threw my gauges out,

0:33:53.520 --> 0:33:56.840
<v Speaker 1>so I've tried to purge. I've tried to purge that

0:33:56.920 --> 0:34:01.560
<v Speaker 1>parton and walk backwards. So it's a working progress, yes,

0:34:01.760 --> 0:34:04.360
<v Speaker 1>But I mean they were like, they were like, it's

0:34:04.400 --> 0:34:06.920
<v Speaker 1>like a whole green suit with the matching green Gators

0:34:07.200 --> 0:34:10.959
<v Speaker 1>orange suits with that matching. He had this one white leather.

0:34:14.800 --> 0:34:17.880
<v Speaker 1>They weren't ready. It's definitely not ready. I don't know

0:34:18.000 --> 0:34:20.560
<v Speaker 1>you were killing him, but they weren't ready. White leather,

0:34:21.120 --> 0:34:23.000
<v Speaker 1>trench coade. I couldn't wait for him to go on

0:34:23.120 --> 0:34:25.400
<v Speaker 1>a trip leather. I do that thing in the trash.

0:34:25.800 --> 0:34:27.880
<v Speaker 1>I said, I can't do this. It was like you

0:34:27.920 --> 0:34:34.520
<v Speaker 1>ain't never no, no, no, I was ahead of my time.

0:34:35.640 --> 0:34:42.560
<v Speaker 1>White leather cause, um okay, So where is that? I

0:34:42.600 --> 0:34:45.840
<v Speaker 1>threw it in the trash? Can Jamal Bryant's It's gone? Okay?

0:34:46.040 --> 0:34:49.880
<v Speaker 1>That thing probably costs fourteen th dollars. It is gone.

0:34:50.360 --> 0:34:54.279
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't take it. Um But no, I feel like

0:34:54.800 --> 0:34:57.120
<v Speaker 1>you have come a long way and I love you.

0:34:57.200 --> 0:35:00.200
<v Speaker 1>Do you do rock the dashiki situation? Sometimes that's see

0:35:00.200 --> 0:35:03.480
<v Speaker 1>you on the Instagram? Um? So, so do you like dashiki?

0:35:03.560 --> 0:35:06.080
<v Speaker 1>A suits? Get you a man that could do both?

0:35:07.120 --> 0:35:09.040
<v Speaker 1>Did you a man that can do both? Is that

0:35:09.080 --> 0:35:11.719
<v Speaker 1>what he said. But to answer your question, he has

0:35:11.760 --> 0:35:15.040
<v Speaker 1>tailors upon Taylors upon Taylors. Oh yeah, yeah, okay, I

0:35:15.080 --> 0:35:18.799
<v Speaker 1>believe that. Yes see, I'm not a really good cook,

0:35:19.000 --> 0:35:21.200
<v Speaker 1>so I'm not. I don't I didn't really wine and

0:35:21.239 --> 0:35:25.120
<v Speaker 1>Dinna jamal by my home cooking. Right, But what is

0:35:25.200 --> 0:35:30.360
<v Speaker 1>your favorite part of robbing? Let me tell you that robbing, robbing.

0:35:31.200 --> 0:35:33.400
<v Speaker 1>I gotta tell you this. You know what our first

0:35:33.440 --> 0:35:37.000
<v Speaker 1>fight was in marriage? What was that? I have no idea.

0:35:38.840 --> 0:35:44.000
<v Speaker 1>When are you going to the supermarket? You didn't know

0:35:44.239 --> 0:35:54.160
<v Speaker 1>before robbing she was coming back with chips and started

0:35:54.160 --> 0:35:56.799
<v Speaker 1>getting the home cooked meals to the girls. Was oh

0:35:56.840 --> 0:36:02.600
<v Speaker 1>my god. Okay, but yeah, in my defense, in my defense,

0:36:02.640 --> 0:36:05.319
<v Speaker 1>amount you like to go to restaurants to eat, you

0:36:05.440 --> 0:36:07.719
<v Speaker 1>like to do that, but when we're sitting in the

0:36:07.760 --> 0:36:10.960
<v Speaker 1>same house, you gotta go down the state. Robin, this

0:36:11.040 --> 0:36:14.360
<v Speaker 1>is two thousand one, no uber eating. No, there was

0:36:14.440 --> 0:36:18.120
<v Speaker 1>no brother. This is the one just got off a

0:36:18.200 --> 0:36:22.960
<v Speaker 1>motor rolling two way pages something. Okay, this was actually

0:36:23.000 --> 0:36:25.480
<v Speaker 1>gonna be my last question to you, and and we

0:36:25.560 --> 0:36:28.120
<v Speaker 1>might finish it just for what he just said. But anyway, okay,

0:36:28.160 --> 0:36:30.520
<v Speaker 1>so what was the best part about being married to Chisel,

0:36:30.920 --> 0:36:33.600
<v Speaker 1>because you're the only person on this planet that has

0:36:33.600 --> 0:36:44.279
<v Speaker 1>been married to me. There's a reason there would be

0:36:44.280 --> 0:36:48.160
<v Speaker 1>a whole another show. Give it to you. No, no, no,

0:36:48.440 --> 0:36:52.960
<v Speaker 1>just Zell pushed me to be better. And she's the

0:36:53.080 --> 0:36:56.400
<v Speaker 1>only one out out of my parents who has spoken

0:36:56.400 --> 0:36:59.680
<v Speaker 1>into my life to really push me to go to

0:36:59.719 --> 0:37:03.000
<v Speaker 1>another the level I preached UM at a conference at

0:37:03.000 --> 0:37:05.520
<v Speaker 1>my home church one day and I thought I killed

0:37:05.560 --> 0:37:08.879
<v Speaker 1>that John. I mean, I thought Star Wars The Force

0:37:09.040 --> 0:37:11.840
<v Speaker 1>was with and Giselle. We got in a car and

0:37:11.920 --> 0:37:17.440
<v Speaker 1>Giselle was like, you have really stopped growing? Do you

0:37:17.520 --> 0:37:20.640
<v Speaker 1>really think this the best that you can do? I

0:37:20.760 --> 0:37:25.640
<v Speaker 1>was high level offended, but it really seriously but didn't

0:37:25.920 --> 0:37:28.880
<v Speaker 1>really go to another point. And then when uh, this

0:37:29.000 --> 0:37:33.160
<v Speaker 1>herschel Walker video went virable, I saw Giselle maybe a

0:37:33.160 --> 0:37:35.719
<v Speaker 1>week after that, and she said, this is your vein.

0:37:35.880 --> 0:37:38.960
<v Speaker 1>Why did you leave that? You need to stay in

0:37:39.040 --> 0:37:41.840
<v Speaker 1>what it is that you're good at and be your best.

0:37:42.160 --> 0:37:46.560
<v Speaker 1>And a lot of people, uh don't really have authentic

0:37:46.600 --> 0:37:49.360
<v Speaker 1>friends that can push you to be better. Uh. And

0:37:49.440 --> 0:37:53.400
<v Speaker 1>so the thing that I value about Giselle, She's always

0:37:53.400 --> 0:37:56.520
<v Speaker 1>pushed me to be better, even if she's pushing me

0:37:56.600 --> 0:38:01.000
<v Speaker 1>over the cliff without a parachute. Okay, we're gonna leave

0:38:01.040 --> 0:38:02.960
<v Speaker 1>it at that. That was such a nice way to end.

0:38:03.480 --> 0:38:05.680
<v Speaker 1>I want everybody know Jamal Bryant is one of my

0:38:05.880 --> 0:38:08.719
<v Speaker 1>favorite people on earth. Oh that's nice. Yes, one of

0:38:08.719 --> 0:38:13.440
<v Speaker 1>my favorite people on earth. Don't do that because not

0:38:13.640 --> 0:38:16.200
<v Speaker 1>one of not one of Don't that. You're not the

0:38:16.520 --> 0:38:19.439
<v Speaker 1>I have that. Don't do that. Don't do that because

0:38:19.560 --> 0:38:23.600
<v Speaker 1>rapping is sitting now, you're okay, I have I have

0:38:23.640 --> 0:38:30.640
<v Speaker 1>Grace Angel and they're my favorite people. Jali, it's okay.

0:38:30.680 --> 0:38:33.520
<v Speaker 1>I can say that you you are in the top five. Okay,

0:38:33.600 --> 0:38:38.440
<v Speaker 1>a favorite people. But I have three kids, I have

0:38:38.600 --> 0:38:42.360
<v Speaker 1>three kids, three kids. I have two parents. I have

0:38:42.440 --> 0:38:45.440
<v Speaker 1>three kids. I have two parents. Yes, so you you

0:38:45.480 --> 0:38:52.279
<v Speaker 1>beat out one parent. Yeah, good jeez. Anyway, thank you

0:38:52.360 --> 0:38:54.960
<v Speaker 1>for letting me come on the show. Yes, and we're

0:38:55.000 --> 0:38:57.879
<v Speaker 1>gonna send you a reasonably sad shady sweatshirt. We would

0:38:57.880 --> 0:39:00.439
<v Speaker 1>like to you for you to wear it Sunday morning church.

0:39:00.560 --> 0:39:02.920
<v Speaker 1>We want to see us represented as you preach the

0:39:02.920 --> 0:39:05.680
<v Speaker 1>Gospel of the Lord. Wouldn't that be beautiful? I'm aware

0:39:05.719 --> 0:39:13.080
<v Speaker 1>from Bible study. Okay, thanks, Okay, on that now we

0:39:13.120 --> 0:39:14.680
<v Speaker 1>will we will let you go. We know that you're

0:39:14.800 --> 0:39:18.040
<v Speaker 1>very busy. Love you to death, not Rob, but I'm

0:39:18.040 --> 0:39:20.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna speak for myself. Love you to death, Jamal Bryant.

0:39:20.520 --> 0:39:23.960
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Jamal, it's been a pleasure. It has been

0:39:24.000 --> 0:39:26.520
<v Speaker 1>a pleasure. We appreciate your work in the community and

0:39:26.560 --> 0:39:28.680
<v Speaker 1>we do miss you up. That was actually that was

0:39:28.719 --> 0:39:33.080
<v Speaker 1>my last question. So Jamal did um he took me

0:39:33.120 --> 0:39:35.320
<v Speaker 1>around the world, like we went to Egypt with Greece,

0:39:35.400 --> 0:39:37.479
<v Speaker 1>we went to here, Africa, we went to Why didn't

0:39:37.520 --> 0:39:40.799
<v Speaker 1>you take me to Wakanda? Like what in our relationship

0:39:41.400 --> 0:39:44.600
<v Speaker 1>didn't allow you to take me to Wakanda. I couldn't

0:39:44.640 --> 0:39:48.040
<v Speaker 1>find the flight. Had I found the flight showed you

0:39:48.040 --> 0:39:50.919
<v Speaker 1>would have been there. Okay, that's gonna be our next trip.

0:39:50.960 --> 0:39:53.359
<v Speaker 1>He's taking me to get some I got to get

0:39:53.360 --> 0:40:04.480
<v Speaker 1>my vibranika, all right, and goodbye. Thank you, Jamal. Oh

0:40:04.520 --> 0:40:07.640
<v Speaker 1>my gosh, that's your ma. Brian is a man. Yeah,

0:40:07.680 --> 0:40:12.480
<v Speaker 1>I would say, um, you definitely probably get about thirty

0:40:12.880 --> 0:40:18.680
<v Speaker 1>you shadiness from him, no forty. Yes, he's extremely shady. Yeah, yeah,

0:40:18.719 --> 0:40:21.520
<v Speaker 1>but but people don't know how shady he is. Right, Yeah,

0:40:21.719 --> 0:40:25.279
<v Speaker 1>it's funny. He's a I was going to talk about

0:40:25.280 --> 0:40:27.239
<v Speaker 1>this while we were on Jamal reads like a book

0:40:27.239 --> 0:40:31.640
<v Speaker 1>a week, so he's very smart. He's very well read.

0:40:32.080 --> 0:40:34.920
<v Speaker 1>He loves using his big words. But then he also

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<v Speaker 1>has like a just a comedic side to him, which

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<v Speaker 1>is which is nice too. It's a nice balance. But

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<v Speaker 1>that makes for a great pastor. Yeah, you know, because

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<v Speaker 1>you want to You don't want to sit there and

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<v Speaker 1>just be bored. Gonna be entertained as well. This is

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<v Speaker 1>true to get the word and be entertained. So that's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was But I appreciate him taking time out

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<v Speaker 1>of his busy day to talk to us, and I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate his perspective on haters, like the haters are not

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<v Speaker 1>coming and burn the blogger steaks in our yard. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just a blogger. If all we got to be worried

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<v Speaker 1>about is a blogger, we are good. That's bob right,

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny. But anyway, I don't never forget to live

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