Speaker 1: Welcome to Reasonably Shady, a production of the Black Effect
Speaker 1: Podcast Network and I Heart Radio. Welcome to another episode
Speaker 1: of Reasonably Shity. I am just elf Ryan. What's up?
Speaker 1: What's up? Everyone? This is Robin Dixon. Thank you for
Speaker 1: being here. Yes, thank you, thank Yeah. Everybody should be
Speaker 1: like nice and full and happy or mad. We're mad
Speaker 1: because they got into a fight with their family, like
Speaker 1: happy Thanksgiving exactly like I'm never coming back again. I
Speaker 1: love those family moments. I wish I had some like that.
Speaker 1: You know what, I actually have had my brother, um
Speaker 1: years ago. He would always be good for a moment
Speaker 1: like that. Would he likes storm out the house? Um?
Speaker 1: Has he ever stormed out? I don't know if he
Speaker 1: ever stormed out, but he would make things just very tense. Yes,
Speaker 1: n you can cut that into a NiFe monny who
Speaker 1: it would like carry over for like months, where like
Speaker 1: he stopped talking to people. Oh I love that. Okay.
Speaker 1: So as a matter of fact, I want to ask
Speaker 1: the folks right now, send us your crazy current like
Speaker 1: this just this past Thanksgiving, like family drama over Thanksgiving. Yes,
Speaker 1: give us the t we want the story. So like
Speaker 1: email that to us. Yes, that would be fun. Yes,
Speaker 1: and I've had plenty of those with like Wan's family
Speaker 1: when we just yeah, my sister has stormed out a
Speaker 1: couple of times. But anyway, or normally and sometimes when
Speaker 1: back when I was younger and I had a very
Speaker 1: hot temper, it was me really oh yeah, but I
Speaker 1: mean I would eat first, of course, a hot temper
Speaker 1: I used to Yes, anyway, we're moving on anyway, what
Speaker 1: I did, I used to have a very hot I
Speaker 1: mean I would get angry very quickly and then just
Speaker 1: like say what I had to say I had and
Speaker 1: then I didn't have a filter. Now I have a filter.
Speaker 1: I don't get that angry, and I'm a much better person. Yes,
Speaker 1: Like at what age did this? These were much one?
Speaker 1: So the twenties was like rip roaring yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. I feel like for me, well I think
Speaker 1: I've said this, well, I don't know. Sometimes it's still here.
Speaker 1: But when once I had kids, I really kind of
Speaker 1: like calmed down. Yes, absolutely, I definitely calmed down. Yeah. Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: what's your shady moment? Any shady moment? I mean, okay,
Speaker 1: so I'm talking to you right now on like less
Speaker 1: than one hour cumulative of sleep. We're working on fumess
Speaker 1: fumes and it is because that one Dixon one what
Speaker 1: did he do? Has no consideration for people sleeping? So okay,
Speaker 1: he's in his basketball season. His team is going on
Speaker 1: a road trip, right, so they're on a two game
Speaker 1: road trip, which means they're gonna be gone you know, one, two, three,
Speaker 1: probably four, four or five days, right, So you know
Speaker 1: he's he always waits till the last minute to pack.
Speaker 1: So he comes into the bedroom midnight. Oh, I gotta pack,
Speaker 1: but I'm tired. I'm just gonna lay down for a second. Okay,
Speaker 1: is that like? Is that? Is that a second code
Speaker 1: for something? That code for robbing? You pack my clothes? No, no,
Speaker 1: I can't do it. Like he's so particular, like so particular,
Speaker 1: so I can't help him there. But he but and
Speaker 1: keep this in mind, he had to leave the house
Speaker 1: by six am because they were flying out this morning. Right, Okay,
Speaker 1: so twelve you haven't packed and you're laying down in
Speaker 1: the bed. Not good for a few minutes with you, Okay,
Speaker 1: So he sets he sets an alarm, Okay for like
Speaker 1: forty five minutes. I don't yeah, I don't even know
Speaker 1: what the time was. So, you know, a doze off
Speaker 1: and what feels like a few minutes later he was
Speaker 1: the alarmed that he's not turned it off. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: turn your alarm off, or I'm like, get up. He's like,
Speaker 1: all right, just give me a little more, give me
Speaker 1: a little more time whatever. A few minutes later, he
Speaker 1: doesn't get up. He doesn't get up. I swear the
Speaker 1: whole entire night. His alarm went up, like he snoozed
Speaker 1: his alarm the entire night we'd have been fighting. Yes,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, so, I'm like, can you turn your alarm?
Speaker 1: Can you get up? Turn your alarm off? He's he
Speaker 1: has a nerve to say, Robin, I'm cool, I said,
Speaker 1: but I'm nuts. Yes, you're literally sleeping through this freaking alarm.
Speaker 1: Not I'm cool, Like I'm fine, Yes, okay, you don't
Speaker 1: not the only one in the room. Sorry, I said,
Speaker 1: But I'm not. What then that's right, Actually that's actually
Speaker 1: that's actually absurd. But we love so we won't like trash.
Speaker 1: It's insane, he said. He had the nerve so so so,
Speaker 1: and I'm the type like I can't just fall back
Speaker 1: to sleep, you know what I mean. It's like you
Speaker 1: if I'm awaken in the middle of the night. It
Speaker 1: really takes me a long time to fall back to sleep.
Speaker 1: So it's like I will finally fall back to sleep
Speaker 1: and then and I'm like, y'all get I would have
Speaker 1: rolled up and punched him straight up whatever, smacked the
Speaker 1: living daylights out of ham. So then he had the
Speaker 1: nerve to say he's like oh, and then of course,
Speaker 1: like once he does get up and starts packing, he's
Speaker 1: all talking and has the light on, and you know,
Speaker 1: the light fine, I put I put a little eye
Speaker 1: mask on that ship was annoying, Like I don't really
Speaker 1: wear sleep masks, especially because my lashes, you know, the extensions.
Speaker 1: That was uncomfortable. So I'm all tossing and turning it.
Speaker 1: It's just it's just a mask. It's a mask. Then
Speaker 1: on top of that, right, so his um convoluted story.
Speaker 1: But my brother in law and the baby, we're here.
Speaker 1: Are they still here? No? No um in January? Right,
Speaker 1: But he spent the night because my brother in law
Speaker 1: was on the coaching staff and they were both going
Speaker 1: to the you know, the airport together. But his wife
Speaker 1: was on a trip, not coming back till tonight. So
Speaker 1: where's the bank? So then I had to wake up
Speaker 1: extra early to get the baby ready for daycare. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is this is a mess. Okay, so basically you
Speaker 1: had thirty minutes of sleep, okay, per the baby, wand
Speaker 1: Dixon and your brother in law. This is a which
Speaker 1: is And I'm like the whole night, I'm like, oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, i gotta work tomorrow. We're going to podcast.
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna know what I'm saying. We got right,
Speaker 1: so right now is disclaimer. Whatever comes out of Robin's mouth,
Speaker 1: just blame it on the lack of sleep. Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: present or extra cranky, yes, blame it on that. Okay,
Speaker 1: So let me give you my reasonably shading moment of
Speaker 1: the week. Okay, Okay, so you don't have three girls.
Speaker 1: They're in high school. This week is spirit week, right,
Speaker 1: so every day they have to dress up at something.
Speaker 1: So first day, they two days ago, and they participate. Yeah,
Speaker 1: full at the whole school, full on participate because it's
Speaker 1: like all girls. They all get into it. I'm saying,
Speaker 1: the school is all girls, so they getn't they it
Speaker 1: into it. A door is the vice president of her class,
Speaker 1: so she's like, okay, making sure they're all into She's
Speaker 1: like picking the themes. Oh yeah. So theme for the
Speaker 1: first day was be your favorite celebrity. Grace decided she
Speaker 1: was gonna be this woman and she needed like a
Speaker 1: blond wig shot on a shirt that said the Real
Speaker 1: Housewives of Potomach. Okay, fine, she was made okay, and
Speaker 1: I thought that was so cute, right untold. She started
Speaker 1: talking and she was like right on the street and uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right, that's that's what I'm talking about. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: It was so shady and so horrible. I was so
Speaker 1: angry with her. I was like, okay, I've had it,
Speaker 1: Like after twenty minutes. I was like, I've had a knife,
Speaker 1: and leave my house and stop it. And so like
Speaker 1: I'm sure all day long, and then she she would
Speaker 1: send me pictures of herself with like her friends all
Speaker 1: day and listen, she up that blond wig on her
Speaker 1: head all days. She was so excited. And I was like,
Speaker 1: if word on the street comes out of your mouth
Speaker 1: one more time, we're gonna fight up in here. You
Speaker 1: see what you did. You did it, I did it.
Speaker 1: You did it. That's hilarius. Okay, wait, so did she
Speaker 1: look like you kind of yeah, yeah, kind of sorry.
Speaker 1: I mean she out of all three of my kids,
Speaker 1: looks the most like me, So yes, I mean she did,
Speaker 1: but she was. It was actually nice because she was
Speaker 1: so excited to do it. But I think she was
Speaker 1: excited to be shape of course, and she came up
Speaker 1: with that or she's like, Mommy, I'm gonna be you.
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, this is so nice, and then
Speaker 1: that thing got she got so do you think she
Speaker 1: was she saying that at school to her friends. I'm
Speaker 1: sure I am. She said all of her teachers loved it,
Speaker 1: like they were. They were excited about it, she said,
Speaker 1: even the um an older lady that's like the chairman
Speaker 1: of the board. The next day she saw Grace and
Speaker 1: she was like, I really liked your costume. You really
Speaker 1: look like your mom. Grace was like very happy, so
Speaker 1: that I mean, it's nice that she loves me enough
Speaker 1: to do it, but she was super shady anyway. But
Speaker 1: we have a super exciting special guest to day, y'all
Speaker 1: get ready, get ready to get ready to get rud
Speaker 1: Who is it? Okay? So, like I said, we have
Speaker 1: this super special sing guest on this show, y'all. Okay,
Speaker 1: let me give him his his first his credentials. Okay,
Speaker 1: so he's a more house grad. He is um a
Speaker 1: pastor extraordinaire. Actually, he's the best pastor preacher on the planet,
Speaker 1: on the planet, on the planet. Put all your money
Speaker 1: on it. I will put all my money on it.
Speaker 1: He is. He's actually the senior pastor of New Birth
Speaker 1: Missionary Baptist Church in Atlanta, Georgia. He's the only guy
Speaker 1: I've ever married, the only one, Yes, the only one.
Speaker 1: And he is the father to all three of my kids.
Speaker 1: Do you say he will continue to be the only
Speaker 1: one and ever I don't know. Well, we shall see,
Speaker 1: but he is. He is the father to all three
Speaker 1: of my kids. Y'all know him as passed to Jamal Harrison, right,
Speaker 1: he is in the bel ding. What is going on?
Speaker 1: Past up? Oh girl robbing answers. I made a promise
Speaker 1: to her about some ice chips. She'll explain. Oh what
Speaker 1: is that with the ice chips? He said, when we
Speaker 1: get older, he's gonna be the feeding me ice ChiPT.
Speaker 1: As I'm laying in the bed like an invalid, he's
Speaker 1: feeding me like I don't know if that's a good
Speaker 1: is that a compliment? And what is that that's a
Speaker 1: high compliment. Yes, that means you are He is with
Speaker 1: you forever, forever. Want Look, let me tell you what
Speaker 1: Want asked me the other day. It's a little graphic.
Speaker 1: He said, are you going to wipe my butts? So
Speaker 1: let me say this to you, Robert. Let me say
Speaker 1: to this, do you Robin? I wouldn't even have my
Speaker 1: feelings hurt to answer to that question. I already know
Speaker 1: the answer. That nurse just in five second said, well,
Speaker 1: you're a white man. I mean right, Jamal white mane
Speaker 1: you got the ice chip? You just that's that's your limit. Okay,
Speaker 1: So we have some first, we have some get to
Speaker 1: know you rapid fire questions. Are you ready? I'm ready?
Speaker 1: Tupac Are Biggie Big Fantasia or Jennifer Hudson Fantasia, Kobe
Speaker 1: Bryant or Michael Jordan's I gotta go to Michael Christmas
Speaker 1: or Thanksgiving? Christmas? Atlanta or Baltimore? What you got? Who's listening?
Speaker 1: Everyone's listening. Baltimore in Atlanta are listening. Yes, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: with Atlanta. Okay, you're in Atlanta? Okay? Reasonable or shady?
Speaker 1: Mm hmm? Reasonable? Okay, you're lying? Do you agree with that.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't agree with that because I just
Speaker 1: want y'all to know I've known this man for a
Speaker 1: very long time. Half of my shadiness I get from
Speaker 1: Jamal Bryant's in the other half from your dad from
Speaker 1: her day, right, her dad is the black sign fell
Speaker 1: and drive you. But he's gonna shank you in the shower,
Speaker 1: not shake you in the shower. And leave my dad
Speaker 1: out of this. First and foremost. You know you you
Speaker 1: are a preacher extraordinaire and you like say whatever it
Speaker 1: is that you feel, it's in your heart or on
Speaker 1: your mind, and sometimes that allows for the haters to
Speaker 1: hate on you because you know you stand on whatever
Speaker 1: it is that you believe. So over the years, you know,
Speaker 1: Rob and I feel like I mean, obviously we we
Speaker 1: have a whole lot of hate that comes our way.
Speaker 1: The evolution of hate ration, Okay, because before social media, um,
Speaker 1: and I know I can speak from experience with just
Speaker 1: being around you. You know, you would get hate in
Speaker 1: the streets of Baltimore by other preachers. You know, you
Speaker 1: were like the golden child. Your your church was growing
Speaker 1: by leaps and bounds, and there's wasn't so how do
Speaker 1: how do you deal with haters? Then the evolution of hating,
Speaker 1: and then like the social media hate of it all. Yeah.
Speaker 1: John Maxwell said this rapping that if you want to
Speaker 1: be like to sell ice cream, uh, that anything that
Speaker 1: you do outside of that is going to be controversial.
Speaker 1: And we have gotten to a place where we think
Speaker 1: to be famous to be successful, it's anonymous with being adored.
Speaker 1: Reality is there is nobody in public space who doesn't
Speaker 1: get there without critique. And so whether you're dealing with
Speaker 1: politics or an athlete or an entertainer or a preacher,
Speaker 1: if you put yourself off from uh. Dr King said, uh,
Speaker 1: if you're up front and nobody is kicking your behind,
Speaker 1: you're really not leading. So I think it's really the
Speaker 1: litmus tests of finding out who your value is. Did
Speaker 1: you did you always feel that way or did you
Speaker 1: have to Did you have to develop that? No, it's
Speaker 1: perrier water. It is an acquired taste. Um, it is shocking.
Speaker 1: Cornell West said, the most painful thing you'll ever do
Speaker 1: is be hated on by people you love. Uh. And
Speaker 1: so to go through the blows is not robbing white
Speaker 1: supremacists threatened you. It ain't people from the tea party.
Speaker 1: Who's actually is people who you're trying to represent on
Speaker 1: a global stage. Uh. And you're doing it and you're
Speaker 1: not working. You're doing it and you're not being vulgar profane.
Speaker 1: You're raising your children, loving your husband, doing what it
Speaker 1: is that I deal of our people. And then you've
Speaker 1: got to fight through what James Baldwin call survivor is guilt.
Speaker 1: You are made to feel bad because you do well. Uh.
Speaker 1: And it really just shows how toxic many of our
Speaker 1: people think. Damn that is good, right, Okay, So but Jamal,
Speaker 1: do you feel like something like so you feel like
Speaker 1: we get the we as in as in the black
Speaker 1: community gets the most hate from the black community. It
Speaker 1: just hurts the most. Oh, no doubt about it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The old thing is that hurt people, hurt people. Uh.
Speaker 1: And I heard a quote this way. Haters are people
Speaker 1: who don't know how to say they love you. So
Speaker 1: a lot of people hate you really want to do
Speaker 1: a lot of people hate you. I want to take
Speaker 1: your place, And so you've got to see what is
Speaker 1: their level of brokenness. You opened up just I'll talk
Speaker 1: about they hated you because your church is growing in
Speaker 1: the is not and a lot of people we attack
Speaker 1: who we should be learning from. So instead of beating
Speaker 1: me up, aye, Jamal, how did you do this? But
Speaker 1: we're not used to mentorship, we're not used to legitimate friendships.
Speaker 1: Really the straight bullets of social media that when I
Speaker 1: followed you on Facebook, I'm called a friend. You did
Speaker 1: not friend me, you followed me, and it has reduced
Speaker 1: what is the value of what real friendship is? Wow? Like,
Speaker 1: you know, I can't say that because because we've talked
Speaker 1: a lot about how you and I both deal with
Speaker 1: social media and just hate and just it just rolls
Speaker 1: off our back. I I want to say that I
Speaker 1: got from Jamal just just being with him when he
Speaker 1: was first starting out and and um pastoring his church
Speaker 1: and just all the negativity that would come his way.
Speaker 1: He just didn't care at all, Like it just didn't
Speaker 1: affect him. And I appreciate it because you know, he
Speaker 1: would just keep it moving and be greater and greater
Speaker 1: every Sunday. He was just greater than the next Sunday.
Speaker 1: So thank you, sir, you gave me a little something
Speaker 1: something out here in the streets. No, let me say
Speaker 1: to you, Gazelle one in that vein, how proud of you.
Speaker 1: I am, and I don't mean that in any condescending way.
Speaker 1: My greatest fear when you went on the reality television
Speaker 1: was how were you going to be able to handle
Speaker 1: that level of scrutiny and attack. And you've done it,
Speaker 1: uh in a very graceful fashion that in many ways
Speaker 1: I have been surprised about. But Gizelle and I Robin
Speaker 1: met uh not in church but working in the n
Speaker 1: double a CP. So the people who I looked up
Speaker 1: to were dr King, was Malcolm X, was Adam Clayton
Speaker 1: Powell who was speaking out and Gazelle. Look at the
Speaker 1: contrast um their haters is burning crosses in their front yard,
Speaker 1: was shooting at their wife. All I got to deal
Speaker 1: with is a blogger gets light mparrassing to the people
Speaker 1: who I look up to and what they had been
Speaker 1: or you know, I wasn't coming to you, Grace Angel
Speaker 1: the door black, Hey, we gotta leave at midnight the
Speaker 1: blog because it was just it's just the reality of
Speaker 1: the space that we did. This is the safest hour
Speaker 1: as a civil rightsy leader to be hater. If the
Speaker 1: only thing that you got to be afraid of is
Speaker 1: a keyboard, I can't and I'll take it okay. So
Speaker 1: on that vein, Um, I think the whole world saw
Speaker 1: your takedown of Hershel Walker, like the beginning of your
Speaker 1: sermon and what you talked about Hershel Walker and the
Speaker 1: fact that we don't need him. That thing went viral. Um.
Speaker 1: Andy Cohen saw it, He texts me at eight'clock in
Speaker 1: the morning. I didn't think the n listen to a
Speaker 1: black preacher. Um, you're probably the first black preacher and
Speaker 1: he has ever listened to. Where was it replayed for
Speaker 1: him to get ahold of that? Who God only God
Speaker 1: only knows. Georgia, I need you to know the slave
Speaker 1: nickro j you'll not used to don't live here no more.
Speaker 1: We can't think for ourself, function for ourself, and vote
Speaker 1: for self. Why because we don't need a walker. Hey,
Speaker 1: that was amazing, jamal Um. That's that's you know, typical
Speaker 1: best preacher in the whole planet. That's what he does.
Speaker 1: But but now that we have not one in in Georgia,
Speaker 1: are you frustrated with the fact that herscher Walker and
Speaker 1: Warnock they gotta run again? Yeah? No, I'm frustrated, but
Speaker 1: I'm excited the people of Georgia have done it before.
Speaker 1: When Raphael first got elected, we had to go to
Speaker 1: a runoff because gell different from Maryland. You don't win
Speaker 1: in Georgia because you have the highest amount of votes.
Speaker 1: You have to have fifty plus one percent. Uh. So
Speaker 1: Raphael had over I think fifty thousand more votes. Uh.
Speaker 1: And so I think that people are really mobilized. One
Speaker 1: thing about black people, Uh, they feel like there's a fight.
Speaker 1: They're coming to watch it. So I think that people
Speaker 1: are mobilized. And it were just unearthed yesterday that if
Speaker 1: Juan hypothetically gave to herschel Walker's campaign a hundred dollars,
Speaker 1: only ten of it went to herschel Walker. Ninety of
Speaker 1: those dollars went to Trump. Isn't it just hit the
Speaker 1: press today, Uh, that he wasn't even getting his money.
Speaker 1: So they've been pump pimping him at a level that
Speaker 1: herschel Walker didn't even know. Wow, speaking speaking to Trump,
Speaker 1: you know, he just decided he was gonna run again.
Speaker 1: Don't you want to like seeing the for frozen? Let go,
Speaker 1: let it go, Let it go, let it go. I mean,
Speaker 1: I just feel like there's no wind in his sales.
Speaker 1: I think that it's a rap and he's the only
Speaker 1: one that doesn't know it. No, I think he is
Speaker 1: a gift to the Democratic Party because it slows down
Speaker 1: everybody else who was a Republican who was thinking about running,
Speaker 1: because he is such a megalomaniac and his ego makes
Speaker 1: him delusional about facts. That's how the midterms didn't go
Speaker 1: in the way that the Republicans thought, because these were
Speaker 1: all Trump candidates. And so I think him saying in
Speaker 1: the race is going to lower the money for the
Speaker 1: Republicans and lower the enthusiasm of that base. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: it will keep me entertained. I will say that. I
Speaker 1: can I tell you, without Trump on my TV screen
Speaker 1: every day, I didn't have as much to laugh about.
Speaker 1: This is very true. I am looking forward to Yes. Yes,
Speaker 1: And if you didn't see the Jamal takedown of Hershel Walker,
Speaker 1: just google it child get your entire life. Now, let's
Speaker 1: let's staying on that. On that topic, I think it's
Speaker 1: the one thing and one advantage about uh Warnock and
Speaker 1: Walker running again is that now we can focus all
Speaker 1: of our attention on bringing attention to that very important
Speaker 1: race in Georgia. So you know, we were here Maryland,
Speaker 1: We're pushing for our Maryland candidates. But we can tell
Speaker 1: everybody you know repeatedly to vote for Warnock because I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't even who in their right mind can check
Speaker 1: off a box for herschel walkers like I do. I
Speaker 1: just that is the most instant Georgia. Yes, this guy
Speaker 1: can't conjugate a bird. It's just it's pathetic. I listen.
Speaker 1: I was listening to him the other day and I
Speaker 1: was like, I cannot believe that this is reality. But
Speaker 1: now at least we can focus all of our attention
Speaker 1: on making sure he does not get elected. Okay, moving, So,
Speaker 1: Jamal and I have three beautiful daughters, Grace, angel Anna Door. Um.
Speaker 1: I love them so much and I'm actually proud of
Speaker 1: my kids, Like I think that they are amazing. They
Speaker 1: are beautiful, amazing, respectful, they are kind, they are Um,
Speaker 1: I just learned. I learned this morning. Um, Jamal, I
Speaker 1: don't know if you if you know this, that Grace
Speaker 1: takes a class right now currently that is like I
Speaker 1: don't know what it's called, but it's like she helps
Speaker 1: students with special needs. So but the class is about
Speaker 1: like her tutoring them and her helping them. And I
Speaker 1: felt like at her age. If I were when I
Speaker 1: was her age, There's no way in hell that I
Speaker 1: would have the patience to do something like that. I
Speaker 1: credit Jamal. I think she got her patience from you.
Speaker 1: You know, Jamal is very compassionate and he's he has
Speaker 1: a gift for just giving and service. So thank you
Speaker 1: you gave that to Grace because she is. I saw
Speaker 1: her interact with one of the young ladies that go
Speaker 1: to school has with specialties, and Grace was just like
Speaker 1: so amazing. So I give you. I give you all that,
Speaker 1: Mr Bryant. Now, um, I feel like we're able to
Speaker 1: co parent very well. I'm gonna toot my own horn
Speaker 1: a little bit and say that. You know, when Jamal
Speaker 1: and I were first getting a divorce, I decided that
Speaker 1: however mad I was at him was not as important
Speaker 1: as him being in my kid's life. Absolutely, what would
Speaker 1: you think is our our greatest gift to our kids? Jamal?
Speaker 1: We're number one. You are an amazing mother, uh And
Speaker 1: I am eternally indebted for the incredible way that you
Speaker 1: have modeled in front of our girls. And I don't
Speaker 1: want people to think we've just arrived here. This was
Speaker 1: not an easy road to get to wed is that
Speaker 1: we are we are intentional about doing family counseling with
Speaker 1: the girls, uh and with Giselle and I because he
Speaker 1: was here Rashima for a minute, but were it was,
Speaker 1: but we were really committed for the sake of the
Speaker 1: girls on how it is that we will modeled um
Speaker 1: before each other. So we've been divorced with twelve years,
Speaker 1: a lot of a long time, but he's still here.
Speaker 1: He's twelve years and in twelve years, I could only
Speaker 1: think of one major blow up that we've had with
Speaker 1: the girls present. And I'm just thankful on the God
Speaker 1: on uh that you have been mindful of my presence
Speaker 1: and how it is that you have navigated co parenting
Speaker 1: long distance, which is a whole different all the wax,
Speaker 1: but it's been great and so every day as mother's
Speaker 1: and that's really why I'm nice to you. Okay, I
Speaker 1: appreciate that. And this is for people that are going
Speaker 1: through a divorce right now, I um said to Jamal,
Speaker 1: because Jamal travels a lot. You know, I don't know
Speaker 1: what your your calendar and your schedule is now, but
Speaker 1: at the time Jamal would be booked a year out
Speaker 1: for you know, going around the world. He's he's a
Speaker 1: preacher international. He wants me to say that he's a
Speaker 1: globe trotting preacher. Um. And I knew because of his
Speaker 1: schedule that he couldn't have a consistent schedule with the
Speaker 1: girl like he we couldn't do every other weekend or
Speaker 1: anything like that. So I said to him, look, anytime
Speaker 1: it is has something, anytime there is a moment that
Speaker 1: has something to do with the girls, if it's a vacation,
Speaker 1: if it's a dinner, if it's or whatever, you are invited, okay, um.
Speaker 1: And so I always left the window open for him
Speaker 1: to jump in whenever he could, and and he does.
Speaker 1: He jumps in all the time. That's beautiful. I mean, unfortunately,
Speaker 1: so many relationships are they can't get along and they
Speaker 1: can't look at the bigger picture, which is the children
Speaker 1: when they go through a divorce. And so I definitely
Speaker 1: think you all are an example for so many people
Speaker 1: in this world, because people hold on the bitterness and
Speaker 1: anger and it's like, you know, it's just like you
Speaker 1: just gotta let that go and look at the big picture,
Speaker 1: which is the kids. I love my kids more than
Speaker 1: I will ever be mad at that. Man. And now
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at him, no more so anty way. Okay,
Speaker 1: so a couple of things, oh he said this week.
Speaker 1: You know, Jamal is good about not bragging on himself,
Speaker 1: but there's a little bragg I want to do you
Speaker 1: feed the community. When the COVID first started, new Birth
Speaker 1: was very intentional about feeding the community. You have fed
Speaker 1: how many I'm saying it wrong, You have done how many?
Speaker 1: How many? So in the in the pandemic, we started
Speaker 1: giving out grow trees that saying. And uh, just a
Speaker 1: month ago we hit one million families that we give
Speaker 1: groceries to in the last few years. And it is
Speaker 1: great and it is embarrassing to know that food insecurity
Speaker 1: is that dire. And we're just talking about one metropolitan area.
Speaker 1: For Thanksgiving, we're given our five thousand turkeys. Uh. While
Speaker 1: that sounds good in one way, in another way, it's
Speaker 1: saying that it has to be done. Yeah. Now we
Speaker 1: said one million groceries two years, families, one million families,
Speaker 1: one million bags of groceries in two years. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: fantast that's I remember when I was when we were
Speaker 1: married and I was the first lady of the Parami Temple.
Speaker 1: Um the Women's Ministry that look, you know what, I
Speaker 1: know my next question, the Women's ministry would decided tomorrow
Speaker 1: has his hands over his face, right, it's covering his face.
Speaker 1: We decided to feed as many families as we could
Speaker 1: and literally go to their house, knock on the door
Speaker 1: and give them the food. So I had like a
Speaker 1: bus I had security. I was pregnant the time with
Speaker 1: one of them kids I have and um, and I
Speaker 1: was going knocking on doors. So it's like I was
Speaker 1: in the hood of Baltimore knocking on doors. You did
Speaker 1: not know what was gonna open the door. All kinds
Speaker 1: of things was opening the door as I was. Yes,
Speaker 1: I mean obviously we were blessing them, but it was
Speaker 1: such a blessing to me to be able to give
Speaker 1: them what the Church gave them. And for me, like
Speaker 1: they would invite me in. It would be like a
Speaker 1: weed infestive smelling house, and they would invite me in,
Speaker 1: and I would pray with him a little bit and
Speaker 1: I would say Happy Thanksgiving. But we made sure that
Speaker 1: we gave them food from Thanksgiving to Christmas. Wow, so right,
Speaker 1: enough food for for to last at least a month.
Speaker 1: So yes, as that's what I did as first lady
Speaker 1: at a pome that it's fantastic. So look, speaking of
Speaker 1: Gazelle being first lady at Empowerment Temple, tell us, jamalro
Speaker 1: how was gall as a first lady? There's a pause.
Speaker 1: No, no no, no, So Gazelle was not a Mother Teresa
Speaker 1: first lady. Hit her head. She was a Michelle Obama
Speaker 1: first lady. Yes, yes, she was coming in waving Abama
Speaker 1: before I was not waving to the it she was.
Speaker 1: She was the Black Princess due. She did a great job. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: while we're on that that note, she did our first
Speaker 1: women's conference. Yes, um, she did a whole lot of mentoring.
Speaker 1: A lot of the young girls came to her from
Speaker 1: mentoring a lot of the young ladies who had come
Speaker 1: to Baltimore to go to either Copping or Morgan really
Speaker 1: pulled on her. She wrote a whole lot of a
Speaker 1: k letters half for the Aks in Baltimore, letters from Gazelle. Listen,
Speaker 1: I was the bomb, okay even back then. Now now
Speaker 1: I want to say, there's some things that I missed
Speaker 1: not being married to Jamal Bran Okay, okay, which is
Speaker 1: one of the things I used to complain about. I
Speaker 1: think I now message. Okay, So you know, like I said,
Speaker 1: Jamal travels a lot, so he would have to get
Speaker 1: his his suits and his ties and his shirts together
Speaker 1: before he would go on his trips. So he would
Speaker 1: always be like, wake me up out of my sleep.
Speaker 1: Now you want to be sleep, and when you sleep,
Speaker 1: leave me alone. But he would wake me up, turn
Speaker 1: on all the lights. He would say, Gazelle, does this
Speaker 1: suit go with this time? But does this shirt go
Speaker 1: with this tie? In this suit? Okay, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, wait a minute, let me get three
Speaker 1: other ties. Okay, these three ties go with this five shirts.
Speaker 1: I mean it was like, so you missed this. Now
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, Robert, she's as given you half her store.
Speaker 1: What she misses that I was picking her clothes out,
Speaker 1: That's what she misses. When I was picking her clothes
Speaker 1: out robbing. She wasn't in no blog only time when
Speaker 1: I don't pick it out. Oh my god. Okay, the
Speaker 1: same we brought us off robing. I need you to
Speaker 1: be robbing. You gotta be up with was my first
Speaker 1: stylist of truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, robbing.
Speaker 1: When I first met you, where did I meet you.
Speaker 1: You met me at the where did I first meet you? Rob? Yes?
Speaker 1: It as Sacks, yes, true, yes, Sacks yes, yes. So
Speaker 1: she does not miss picking out my ties. She misses
Speaker 1: me dressing her. That's what she's not going to give
Speaker 1: confession to. Okay, this is this is a breaking moment. Yes,
Speaker 1: Jamal Bryant was my first style list really, yes, okay
Speaker 1: my last right and you're only my only yes. Okay.
Speaker 1: See that was one of my One of my questions
Speaker 1: for Jamaal was how does he go about picking his
Speaker 1: outfits out? Because you know, you look nice and sharp now,
Speaker 1: but I've seen sometimes you have, like, you know, a
Speaker 1: pink tie and a pink silky shirt. Talking about them
Speaker 1: Detroit Player suits you had, Okay, you had some plenty
Speaker 1: of Detroit Player suits. Do you do you have a tailor,
Speaker 1: and you're just like, give me one and every color,
Speaker 1: give me everything, in every color, in every print, what
Speaker 1: the shade is coming. It's a work in progress. So
Speaker 1: when I was at U Detroit, uh, that's when I
Speaker 1: started wearing gagos So when I met Gazelle, I had
Speaker 1: different color gators for every suit. Gazelle threw my gauges out,
Speaker 1: so I've tried to purge. I've tried to purge that
Speaker 1: parton and walk backwards. So it's a working progress, yes,
Speaker 1: But I mean they were like, they were like, it's
Speaker 1: like a whole green suit with the matching green Gators
Speaker 1: orange suits with that matching. He had this one white leather.
Speaker 1: They weren't ready. It's definitely not ready. I don't know
Speaker 1: you were killing him, but they weren't ready. White leather,
Speaker 1: trench coade. I couldn't wait for him to go on
Speaker 1: a trip leather. I do that thing in the trash.
Speaker 1: I said, I can't do this. It was like you
Speaker 1: ain't never no, no, no, I was ahead of my time.
Speaker 1: White leather cause, um okay, So where is that? I
Speaker 1: threw it in the trash? Can Jamal Bryant's It's gone? Okay?
Speaker 1: That thing probably costs fourteen th dollars. It is gone.
Speaker 1: I couldn't take it. Um But no, I feel like
Speaker 1: you have come a long way and I love you.
Speaker 1: Do you do rock the dashiki situation? Sometimes that's see
Speaker 1: you on the Instagram? Um? So, so do you like dashiki?
Speaker 1: A suits? Get you a man that could do both?
Speaker 1: Did you a man that can do both? Is that
Speaker 1: what he said. But to answer your question, he has
Speaker 1: tailors upon Taylors upon Taylors. Oh yeah, yeah, okay, I
Speaker 1: believe that. Yes see, I'm not a really good cook,
Speaker 1: so I'm not. I don't I didn't really wine and
Speaker 1: Dinna jamal by my home cooking. Right, But what is
Speaker 1: your favorite part of robbing? Let me tell you that robbing, robbing.
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you this. You know what our first
Speaker 1: fight was in marriage? What was that? I have no idea.
Speaker 1: When are you going to the supermarket? You didn't know
Speaker 1: before robbing she was coming back with chips and started
Speaker 1: getting the home cooked meals to the girls. Was oh
Speaker 1: my god. Okay, but yeah, in my defense, in my defense,
Speaker 1: amount you like to go to restaurants to eat, you
Speaker 1: like to do that, but when we're sitting in the
Speaker 1: same house, you gotta go down the state. Robin, this
Speaker 1: is two thousand one, no uber eating. No, there was
Speaker 1: no brother. This is the one just got off a
Speaker 1: motor rolling two way pages something. Okay, this was actually
Speaker 1: gonna be my last question to you, and and we
Speaker 1: might finish it just for what he just said. But anyway, okay,
Speaker 1: so what was the best part about being married to Chisel,
Speaker 1: because you're the only person on this planet that has
Speaker 1: been married to me. There's a reason there would be
Speaker 1: a whole another show. Give it to you. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: just Zell pushed me to be better. And she's the
Speaker 1: only one out out of my parents who has spoken
Speaker 1: into my life to really push me to go to
Speaker 1: another the level I preached UM at a conference at
Speaker 1: my home church one day and I thought I killed
Speaker 1: that John. I mean, I thought Star Wars The Force
Speaker 1: was with and Giselle. We got in a car and
Speaker 1: Giselle was like, you have really stopped growing? Do you
Speaker 1: really think this the best that you can do? I
Speaker 1: was high level offended, but it really seriously but didn't
Speaker 1: really go to another point. And then when uh, this
Speaker 1: herschel Walker video went virable, I saw Giselle maybe a
Speaker 1: week after that, and she said, this is your vein.
Speaker 1: Why did you leave that? You need to stay in
Speaker 1: what it is that you're good at and be your best.
Speaker 1: And a lot of people, uh don't really have authentic
Speaker 1: friends that can push you to be better. Uh. And
Speaker 1: so the thing that I value about Giselle, She's always
Speaker 1: pushed me to be better, even if she's pushing me
Speaker 1: over the cliff without a parachute. Okay, we're gonna leave
Speaker 1: it at that. That was such a nice way to end.
Speaker 1: I want everybody know Jamal Bryant is one of my
Speaker 1: favorite people on earth. Oh that's nice. Yes, one of
Speaker 1: my favorite people on earth. Don't do that because not
Speaker 1: one of not one of Don't that. You're not the
Speaker 1: I have that. Don't do that. Don't do that because
Speaker 1: rapping is sitting now, you're okay, I have I have
Speaker 1: Grace Angel and they're my favorite people. Jali, it's okay.
Speaker 1: I can say that you you are in the top five. Okay,
Speaker 1: a favorite people. But I have three kids, I have
Speaker 1: three kids, three kids. I have two parents. I have
Speaker 1: three kids. I have two parents. Yes, so you you
Speaker 1: beat out one parent. Yeah, good jeez. Anyway, thank you
Speaker 1: for letting me come on the show. Yes, and we're
Speaker 1: gonna send you a reasonably sad shady sweatshirt. We would
Speaker 1: like to you for you to wear it Sunday morning church.
Speaker 1: We want to see us represented as you preach the
Speaker 1: Gospel of the Lord. Wouldn't that be beautiful? I'm aware
Speaker 1: from Bible study. Okay, thanks, Okay, on that now we
Speaker 1: will we will let you go. We know that you're
Speaker 1: very busy. Love you to death, not Rob, but I'm
Speaker 1: gonna speak for myself. Love you to death, Jamal Bryant.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Jamal, it's been a pleasure. It has been
Speaker 1: a pleasure. We appreciate your work in the community and
Speaker 1: we do miss you up. That was actually that was
Speaker 1: my last question. So Jamal did um he took me
Speaker 1: around the world, like we went to Egypt with Greece,
Speaker 1: we went to here, Africa, we went to Why didn't
Speaker 1: you take me to Wakanda? Like what in our relationship
Speaker 1: didn't allow you to take me to Wakanda. I couldn't
Speaker 1: find the flight. Had I found the flight showed you
Speaker 1: would have been there. Okay, that's gonna be our next trip.
Speaker 1: He's taking me to get some I got to get
Speaker 1: my vibranika, all right, and goodbye. Thank you, Jamal. Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, that's your ma. Brian is a man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would say, um, you definitely probably get about thirty
Speaker 1: you shadiness from him, no forty. Yes, he's extremely shady. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but but people don't know how shady he is. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's funny. He's a I was going to talk about
Speaker 1: this while we were on Jamal reads like a book
Speaker 1: a week, so he's very smart. He's very well read.
Speaker 1: He loves using his big words. But then he also
Speaker 1: has like a just a comedic side to him, which
Speaker 1: is which is nice too. It's a nice balance. But
Speaker 1: that makes for a great pastor. Yeah, you know, because
Speaker 1: you want to You don't want to sit there and
Speaker 1: just be bored. Gonna be entertained as well. This is
Speaker 1: true to get the word and be entertained. So that's awesome.
Speaker 1: So that was But I appreciate him taking time out
Speaker 1: of his busy day to talk to us, and I
Speaker 1: appreciate his perspective on haters, like the haters are not
Speaker 1: coming and burn the blogger steaks in our yard. It's
Speaker 1: just a blogger. If all we got to be worried
Speaker 1: about is a blogger, we are good. That's bob right,
Speaker 1: It's funny. But anyway, I don't never forget to live
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