WEBVTT - The Hi-C Interview 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.560 We like to welcome everyone to another episode of the 0:00:02.600 --> 0:00:05.880 Gangster Chronicles podcasts, and this one is special. Right here, 0:00:06.240 --> 0:00:10.320 one of my good friends from the city of Compton, California, 0:00:11.039 --> 0:00:14.840 a lot of pivotal hits under his belt, considered the lection. 0:00:16.239 --> 0:00:18.079 You know what I'm saying. It made a lot of records. Man. 0:00:18.239 --> 0:00:20.239 He runs with a producer by the name of DJ 0:00:20.400 --> 0:00:23.440 Quick that's a pretty decent producer and it's a home 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:26.159 right now. He's a fucking genius. Um, we got my 0:00:26.200 --> 0:00:28.480 good friend high seat in the house. Cross. What's up? Man? 0:00:28.520 --> 0:00:31.240 What's up still? Man? Just killing man. I've been waiting 0:00:31.240 --> 0:00:33.360 to get you in here forever. Man. Man, this feels 0:00:33.360 --> 0:00:35.600 crazy because you're my bro. We talked like every day, 0:00:35.640 --> 0:00:39.239 like you know, yeah for sure. And that's why sometimes 0:00:39.280 --> 0:00:41.800 we're doing these interviews, man, with people that you're real 0:00:41.920 --> 0:00:44.600 cool with because all you're doing is having a conversation 0:00:44.640 --> 0:00:46.800 and you know everything about that person. But you asked 0:00:46.840 --> 0:00:50.479 him about stuff you already knew. So, Man, this is 0:00:50.520 --> 0:00:52.479 special because you don't give a lot of interviews. I 0:00:52.520 --> 0:00:55.480 think I've only seen like a couple of interviews on 0:00:55.520 --> 0:00:57.279 your online There was people like I saw you did 0:00:57.280 --> 0:00:59.680 one with Tony a yeah, and I think you're doing 0:00:59.720 --> 0:01:02.280 with some baker. Yeah, that's the only that's that's it. 0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:05.880 That's it. No social media at all. So when I 0:01:05.920 --> 0:01:08.200 told the people and um, I did a post and said, hey, 0:01:08.200 --> 0:01:10.880 I'm about to get high to see in the studio, 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:15.440 I had like, man, maybe liked people in the thread, man, 0:01:15.840 --> 0:01:18.000 which is a lot. So you're real popular out there. Man, 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:20.000 I'm gonna have to do one of my like like 0:01:20.080 --> 0:01:21.959 Kevin Durant is something. Give me one of them ghosts 0:01:21.959 --> 0:01:25.000 and burners accounts and ship. You have to rocking and 0:01:25.120 --> 0:01:27.759 rocking like that. You have too, dog, because people love 0:01:27.800 --> 0:01:29.240 you out there and they want to hear from you. Man. 0:01:29.280 --> 0:01:31.440 I love him back for show. So we could go 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:33.560 way back to the beginning. Since you don't do a 0:01:33.560 --> 0:01:39.600 lot of interviews, how when you when you first start rapping, Man, 0:01:39.880 --> 0:01:42.520 I had to be I don't want to say probably 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:46.400 if I had to take a guess, and it's not accurate, 0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:52.120 but I want to say probably about thirteen fourteen years old, 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:54.640 somewhere around there, because a lot of people don't know. 0:01:54.680 --> 0:01:56.680 You don't write your reps down on paper. Everything you 0:01:56.760 --> 0:01:59.000 do is kind of like a freestyle. Yeah. Yeah, Like 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:00.840 I said, I sit there and think about it and 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:03.640 think about it, and it's almost like I treated like 0:02:03.640 --> 0:02:05.720 a rehearsal, you know, like if you're going to school 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:08.080 or something you had to play that you wanted to recite. 0:02:08.120 --> 0:02:10.560 And you know one of the Martin Luther King plays 0:02:10.600 --> 0:02:12.160 that she was a part of when you was holding 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:14.200 the M and the M is for you know. So 0:02:14.240 --> 0:02:16.639 I just felt like I wanted to have my hands free. 0:02:17.320 --> 0:02:19.760 I wanted to be able to express myself using my hands. 0:02:19.760 --> 0:02:22.160 A lot of us do. So I was like, man, 0:02:22.240 --> 0:02:25.880 let me just start kind of like remembering, like, you know, 0:02:26.040 --> 0:02:27.720 by the time we all in the studio, because we 0:02:27.720 --> 0:02:29.160 all be you know, it'd be groups of us in 0:02:29.160 --> 0:02:31.519 the studio, and by the time dudes finished, right and 0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:33.880 their ship, I'm sitting there thinking about, Okay, I wanted 0:02:34.320 --> 0:02:36.520 in there like this and I want to end it 0:02:36.600 --> 0:02:39.040 like this. And you know, don't get me wrong. When 0:02:39.040 --> 0:02:41.240 I first started, I had like no books and ship 0:02:41.280 --> 0:02:44.560 that I used to write down. And I remember in 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:47.040 high school I had this like fold or a couple 0:02:47.040 --> 0:02:49.119 of folders, man, and I don't know where the hell 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:52.680 they went. I think somebody got me or I probably 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:54.760 to misplace them. Ships or whatever, but nor I might 0:02:54.840 --> 0:02:58.160 have some fire in there, like and you know, when 0:02:58.200 --> 0:03:01.280 you got that ship, you can't get it back because 0:03:01.320 --> 0:03:02.720 you wrote it down to a certain rain and you 0:03:02.760 --> 0:03:05.760 can't remember exactly what it is. So I was like, damn, 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:07.680 I don't want to lose some more notebooks, you know, 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:12.480 So you just start keeping everything up beside the brain, 0:03:12.600 --> 0:03:15.040 you know. Um, so you mentioned that you've got rapping, 0:03:15.120 --> 0:03:20.160 start rapping real early's Quick producing there. Yeah, Quick was 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:22.120 doing most of the like Quick was more of a 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:24.520 producer than he was a rapper man. People don't really 0:03:24.560 --> 0:03:28.400 know that. Like he was really uh DJ quick mix, 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:32.200 So he was doing all the beats for you early on. Um, 0:03:32.240 --> 0:03:34.920 he was like I was messing around with stuff, you know, 0:03:34.920 --> 0:03:36.720 on my own or whatever, you know, how to get 0:03:36.760 --> 0:03:38.800 down or whatever. So but he was like he had 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:42.440 that ship downpat Like he would take the cheapest piece 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:45.240 of equipment or the like lower level piece of equipment 0:03:45.720 --> 0:03:47.800 and just make wonders out of that ship. Like he 0:03:47.960 --> 0:03:52.960 got every he squeezed every juice out of that limit 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:55.160 like he can't, you know, Like he just knew how 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:57.240 to take something and just make that ship just sound 0:03:57.360 --> 0:03:59.680 real real good man. Yeah, because a lot of the 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:02.280 early recordings, you guys doing the mix tapes and stuff 0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:05.520 on those Roodium Squat Meat mixed tapes. Yeah, they were 0:04:05.520 --> 0:04:07.280 doing on four tracks, right, that was done on the 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:09.320 four track. That was Steve you the Rest in Peace 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:11.920 and Tony. Yeah. Yeah, those them ships took a long 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:13.720 time to do. That's how I ended up meeting like 0:04:13.800 --> 0:04:17.800 Easy and Dr Dre you know, from from doing the 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:20.440 Roodium stuff too. Yeah, because you go back a long 0:04:20.480 --> 0:04:22.880 way and you still look young as hell. Oh man, 0:04:22.960 --> 0:04:24.960 think you know, always look like a kid. Every time 0:04:25.040 --> 0:04:26.720 I see you. I got I gotta kick up, man, 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:28.800 I gotta kick the gym. Man, come on, man, you 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:31.000 know I'm you know, that's where i'd be at, and 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:33.240 that's what I want to go into. Man, when did 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:35.480 you When did the crew get together? Like when did 0:04:35.480 --> 0:04:37.880 you start hooking up with Quick Second and nothing? All 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:41.279 those guys, well ship, most of us went to school together. 0:04:41.440 --> 0:04:43.359 Quick stayed around the corn We from the same neighborhood 0:04:43.400 --> 0:04:49.000 or whatever. So man, you already know so we you know, 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:51.640 Quick stayed around the corner and we was like real 0:04:51.720 --> 0:04:54.280 tightest friends and just used to ride dirt bikes. Man, 0:04:54.360 --> 0:04:56.000 like the stuff you see now when the dudes on 0:04:56.040 --> 0:04:58.600 the dirt bikes. We was riding dirt bikes man, a 0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:00.960 long time ago, like just in the streets and doing 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:03.599 our ship dirt by ride and just doing what you know, 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:06.479 the normal badass little kids was doing. And Quick was 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:08.640 over there doing this thing. I had another dude that 0:05:08.680 --> 0:05:10.760 I used to work with, not work with, but just 0:05:10.839 --> 0:05:13.920 make music, like just sunking around with with the turntables. 0:05:13.920 --> 0:05:16.800 His name was Sean Whitehurst, so white Hurst mixed Master 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:18.600 white we used to call them. Used to blend all 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:20.840 the ship, and we had the reverbs and we didn't 0:05:20.839 --> 0:05:22.719 really have drum machines back there, so we would just 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:25.400 get down off the instrumentals and then we started like 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:28.000 you know, everybody was doing their little ship. Back then 0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:30.760 it was like ballers and they was making money and 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:33.640 they'll give us, giving like a hundred dollars just to 0:05:33.680 --> 0:05:35.240 make a tape for him and say their name and 0:05:35.279 --> 0:05:37.440 the tape because they wanted to impress the girls and ship. 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:39.360 So they'd be like, man, I'll be like, hell yeah, 0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:41.400 I'll take this hunted. Like to me, it was like god, 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:43.960 damn young, you know, looking at the Hunter, it was 0:05:44.000 --> 0:05:45.720 like back then, it was like God damn. That was 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:48.120 a lot. So take the hunters say their name in 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:50.040 there and you know, ship like that, and they wanted 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:52.919 their own little That's when the sound systems in the 0:05:52.960 --> 0:05:55.640 car was real big, like need to shake your house 0:05:55.760 --> 0:05:59.880 like two fifteens and ship off beating down the blocks. 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:01.560 They had their name in the tape, and then we 0:06:01.640 --> 0:06:03.719 just kind of started like that and were with this 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:09.320 talk about eighty something. That's one of the sound systems. 0:06:09.400 --> 0:06:12.960 That's my first Kelly. People have like five thousand watching 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:15.600 their trunk and you just like gorillas trying to get 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:17.760 over the Yeah, man, they ship in the cars. Man, 0:06:17.880 --> 0:06:20.719 sometimes did it take your breath like you're feeling the 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:23.480 base in your chest and your eye lashes wiggling this ship. 0:06:23.520 --> 0:06:26.200 You'd be like, god damn, but niggas is really into 0:06:26.200 --> 0:06:29.919 that sound ship and putting you know, doing personalized tapes 0:06:29.960 --> 0:06:31.760 and ship. You know, it was it was like the 0:06:31.800 --> 0:06:34.320 thing you know so quick was always nice then, well 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:36.400 yeah I always had it's always had a talent and 0:06:36.680 --> 0:06:40.920 just a gift for that ship. Yeah, so y'all get together, 0:06:41.000 --> 0:06:43.360 y'all doing the mixed tapes and everything like that, and 0:06:43.440 --> 0:06:45.440 y'all got the whole cruise. I notice y'all appeared on 0:06:45.480 --> 0:06:48.359 each each other's joints, like, y'all will hear you on 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:50.279 second to none stuff out here? Second to none on 0:06:50.360 --> 0:06:52.919 your stuff out here? Quick on your stuff, and vice versa. 0:06:53.440 --> 0:06:55.760 So around what time did you get your first because 0:06:55.760 --> 0:06:58.160 you was working with Steve, you don't rest in peace? Yeah, 0:06:58.240 --> 0:07:00.559 I went to the Aldier man my boy, my, my 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:03.360 my dog man. He just recently passed away man the 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:08.200 uh my boy baby and b b me and bb um. 0:07:08.240 --> 0:07:10.440 He was like craft man, come up to the road 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:12.600 and swap swap me with me. And I was like, 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:14.440 what's up there? He was like, man, I'm looking for jobs, 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:15.920 like we can get some money up there. And I 0:07:15.920 --> 0:07:18.560 was like, no, ship. He was like yeah, So I said, man, 0:07:18.600 --> 0:07:22.000 you sure. We caught the bus up there and put 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:25.320 up at the roodeum and he went. I think he 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:27.840 was working with some dude that did that, sold weights 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:30.680 and the weightlifting equipment and ship like that. So I 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:33.680 ran into this dude that sold pants like his name, 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:36.960 you know, named George, a little short French guy, and 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:40.360 Ship took like smooth with the ladies. He sold women clothing. 0:07:40.440 --> 0:07:42.280 So I was like, all right, I'm gonna get a 0:07:42.320 --> 0:07:44.880 job with him, helping him, you know, sell clothes or whatever. 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:48.920 And so I used to always hear this music coming 0:07:48.960 --> 0:07:51.000 from this this stand, you know. She we was just 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:53.520 attracted to music or whatever. I used to hear this 0:07:53.640 --> 0:07:55.720 music and I'm like, man, they're playing some ship over there. 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:58.240 I gotta go see what's going on, you know. So 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:02.280 I went over there and I saw Steve Yano, and 0:08:02.280 --> 0:08:04.120 then I end up probably meeting Tony a like a 0:08:04.120 --> 0:08:06.520 little bit later on. But I'm looking at still. I'm thinking, 0:08:06.960 --> 0:08:08.560 you know, when I pull up over there, it's gonna 0:08:08.600 --> 0:08:10.559 be some black dude or whatever. I look at Steve. 0:08:11.160 --> 0:08:15.040 Steve Yano is Asian dude, long hair and ship like this. 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:18.400 His wife, you know, Asian shout out the suit. She 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:22.320 that's that's still a homie, man. So I'm looking at 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:24.960 him like man. But one thing about Steve norm you 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:27.280 can't judge a book by its cover, because this dude 0:08:27.360 --> 0:08:31.800 knew every fucking record, every name of a record, who 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:34.120 made the record. Kind of like quick dude, Like we 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:36.040 would be riding and quickly do the same thing, like, 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:38.079 oh that's such and such you made this, and that's 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:42.000 the keyboard player from Janna where the Bernie, Well, he 0:08:42.360 --> 0:08:44.720 just know all the ship. You know. Steve Yano was 0:08:44.760 --> 0:08:46.440 the same way, Hey, you need to use this break 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:47.800 and do this and this and that. He was just 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:50.199 the king of the Vinyl So a lot of people 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:52.960 used to gravitate towards him to get their records. And 0:08:53.040 --> 0:08:54.560 back then, you know, we just to sample a lot 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:56.800 of ship off a break beats and we'll go through 0:08:56.880 --> 0:08:59.160 all kinds of cratesive records just to find that little 0:08:59.200 --> 0:09:01.520 break so we can sample that ship to wrap too. 0:09:02.040 --> 0:09:04.360 So Steve had all these old school records, and the 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:07.240 long story short, I just started telling him like, look, man, 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:10.000 I get down. I wrapped, you know, and I've saved 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:13.000 of some money to take my uh take my little 0:09:13.000 --> 0:09:15.240 project to the black Hole studios. Back in the day, 0:09:15.280 --> 0:09:17.719 that was a little black hole. So I found out. 0:09:17.760 --> 0:09:19.320 I went in there and made me some little ship. 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:22.160 It was some little cool ship or whatever. It wasn't 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:24.520 really then I let him motherfucker here today. But it 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:26.719 was like some little ship, you know, Like I went 0:09:26.760 --> 0:09:28.800 in there and stretched out and then he heard some 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:30.840 of my ship and he was like, okay, you're serious. 0:09:30.880 --> 0:09:33.280 But I'm like yeah, I'm like this is my ship, 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:35.680 you know, And then I only that, Like I played 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:38.040 Alto saxon junior high then I played a little bit 0:09:38.080 --> 0:09:40.600 of high school. So I was always into music, man, 0:09:40.880 --> 0:09:43.040 just always into it. A lot of people don't know 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:45.880 because you produce yourself too. Yeah, you're you're a producer, 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:49.480 very good producer. Did you ever um at some point 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:52.240 what made you decide I'm gonna focus more on my 0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:54.840 rapping than making the beat because you was doing both 0:09:54.880 --> 0:09:57.520 for a while, right, Yeah, But it was primarily because 0:09:57.520 --> 0:09:59.520 you never really put yourself out there as a producer. 0:09:59.559 --> 0:10:01.560 No ever did, man, Because I feel like when I 0:10:01.640 --> 0:10:04.960 do something like when I'm producing, I feel like it'll 0:10:05.040 --> 0:10:07.240 be like if I'm working with you to be telling 0:10:07.280 --> 0:10:08.960 made for me and you to get down on, or 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:11.640 if it's something for me like you know, like I 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:15.240 would out with my producing stuff, I feel like it's 0:10:15.280 --> 0:10:18.640 more of a vogue, like a frequency, like a lower 0:10:18.760 --> 0:10:21.920 level higher level vibe or whatever we into or whatever 0:10:21.920 --> 0:10:24.720 we're shooting for at the moment. So I felt like 0:10:24.840 --> 0:10:27.200 I wouldn't want to go and just do a whole 0:10:27.240 --> 0:10:30.959 bunch of beats and ship for somebody else that probably 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:33.440 wouldn't understand where I'm coming from, you know, if that 0:10:33.520 --> 0:10:35.839 makes sense, like this is what I'm feeling on this 0:10:35.920 --> 0:10:38.000 or this is what I'm feeling on that. So I 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:41.440 just kind of like let like quick and then don't 0:10:41.440 --> 0:10:43.760 get me wrong, quick is like to master at that ship. 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:45.920 So when he do the ship on the SP two, 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:47.440 if he can do that ship so quick and he 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:50.640 made it effortless, and it was like ship, that's you. 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:53.400 That's what you do. Like if we're playing baseball, you 0:10:53.520 --> 0:10:55.600 the picture. I'm the catcher of the second baseman. We 0:10:55.600 --> 0:10:57.240 got a short stop. I don't need to be doing 0:10:57.280 --> 0:10:59.640 everything I can. Let him get down, you get what 0:10:59.679 --> 0:11:02.920 I'm saying, Just stretch out on what I can do. 0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:05.280 Not now who was officially in the crew, I'm gonna 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:07.640 try to name him off to him if I missed anybody, Yeah, 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:11.200 you got a second and then you got quick yep, 0:11:12.480 --> 0:11:15.800 of course I see you. Then we had Homie mars 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:21.560 Burg well before magg was the only one that wasn't 0:11:21.559 --> 0:11:24.160 from the city. But we put him on real early 0:11:24.160 --> 0:11:27.079 in the game, like A and G. Just always been 0:11:27.160 --> 0:11:29.760 good with the with another dude that produced to like 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:32.560 produced his ass off, write his own wraps. But he 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:35.720 was just like more like a real like rapper, rapper. 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:37.400 You know what I'm saying. That nigga can spit. He 0:11:37.480 --> 0:11:41.839 got bars, you know, so shut off to MG. That's 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:43.760 my partner. I had to get him in there because 0:11:43.760 --> 0:11:45.960 he's another dude to stay off the spot. Like hell yeah, 0:11:47.480 --> 0:11:52.079 social media just around yep. Yeah. So we met G 0:11:52.320 --> 0:11:57.760 later on and then um after G Sugar sugar Free 0:11:57.840 --> 0:12:01.559 was sugar free, you know, like you know, that's that's 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:03.400 the whole We can get into that though, but we 0:12:03.440 --> 0:12:05.880 go go through the whole thing. YEA Free came in 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:08.839 and then Massy was rested. Peace. That's my little nigger man. 0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:12.080 Marsburger was like when our dudes that was upcoming like 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:15.320 but fast though, like he was, you know, doing this 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:18.200 ship he was. He was pushing a line heavy line on. Yeah, 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:20.880 he was hungry. Yeah, he was coming up fast. Mars 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:24.000 Burger and I gotta mention my homeboy me and then 0:12:24.000 --> 0:12:26.079 gave me my first check, one of the guys gave 0:12:26.160 --> 0:12:28.000 my first check because I got my first piece of 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:31.720 money through you. And then Black Tone got me my 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:34.880 first placement as a producer. Shout out black Yeah, shout 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:37.440 off Black Tone, and Black Tone is doing well now 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:40.800 he had a stroke. Yeah, yeah, he's recovering doing you know, 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:43.720 doing pretty good. We talked on occasion and ship so 0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:49.600 man speedy recovery to black and Man for show. Okay, 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:52.840 so we go going to the phase man to where 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:54.800 you up at the Roodeum, And I don't think a 0:12:54.800 --> 0:12:57.400 lot of people, especially the young people, they recognized the 0:12:57.440 --> 0:13:01.200 significance of the Roodeum to West Coast hip. I would 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:03.559 say the rohodium and the compatence whapped meat are the 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:08.160 two hubs for Southern California hip hop, especially back in 0:13:08.200 --> 0:13:10.080 the eighties. A lot of people got they start out 0:13:10.080 --> 0:13:12.920 those two, you know, comptence whapped meat, not the rodium. 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:14.599 I would say, even more so the rodium because the 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:17.839 rodium was before the comptence wapped me. Yeah, no, you're right, 0:13:19.520 --> 0:13:23.400 especially if if it wasn't before, but the music was before. Definitely, Yeah, 0:13:23.440 --> 0:13:26.559 for sure. Because you mentioned seeing Dr Dre up there, Yeah, 0:13:26.640 --> 0:13:28.360 for sure. Dr Dre would be up there hust on 0:13:28.400 --> 0:13:31.720 his stuff, the world class wrecking crew at the time, 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:34.920 and the easy up there. That's how many an easy Matt, 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:39.360 You're easy, That's what I was going to. How did 0:13:39.400 --> 0:13:42.960 you guys not wind up on Ruthless Records. That's that's 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:45.280 that's a big question. That's a good question though, because 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:50.240 I honestly thought, like back in the day, like when 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:51.959 we was getting down me and Quick and all, it 0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:54.520 was like we really thought that was like because you know, 0:13:54.640 --> 0:13:57.520 like just imagine kids from the city that didn't know 0:13:57.880 --> 0:14:00.120 the industry at all too much. But we just know 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:02.440 what we see in front of us, which is, you know, 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:04.720 Ruthless Records that we see on the label. We don't 0:14:04.720 --> 0:14:06.600 know how big it is or who owned it, or 0:14:06.600 --> 0:14:10.120 this and this and that, and it was like Death Jam, 0:14:10.120 --> 0:14:14.560 of course, it was just all of the what was 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:17.840 the other label? I think it was like a sleeping 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:20.080 bag and fourth and Broad this ship that we didn't 0:14:20.080 --> 0:14:22.040 really know if we didn't know who was what or whatever. 0:14:22.360 --> 0:14:24.680 But we also knew the bigger labels, you know, but 0:14:25.040 --> 0:14:27.680 back then, the bigger labels catered to stuff like, you know, 0:14:27.720 --> 0:14:30.040 the stuff that our parents are listened to, like Al 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:33.040 Green and Teddy Pendergrass and you know, Michael Jackson all 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:35.600 the ship that you know that people listened to. So 0:14:35.640 --> 0:14:37.680 we didn't really know like the hip hop ship like 0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:41.280 until Death Jam, you know, certain months came out, so 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:43.320 We was figuring, like, you know, damn, we want to 0:14:43.360 --> 0:14:46.360 be down with Ruthless, but Ruthless was doing their own thing, 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:49.520 going through their own distribution channels. So we ended up 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:52.640 landing where we landed. Thank god, it was cool. You know, 0:14:54.240 --> 0:14:56.680 you haven't been a lot of recording sessions and everything. Man, 0:14:56.680 --> 0:14:58.920 what's the craziest thing you don't ever seen? The apping? Man? 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:04.040 Oh man, you mean like some turn up ship turning 0:15:04.120 --> 0:15:08.040 up anything like that, especially you know y'alls some of 0:15:08.080 --> 0:15:12.360 them death throw recording sessions. You heard about him And 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:14.000 I don't even know if it was at the studio, 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:17.080 but just for instance, you know your boy good niggas. 0:15:17.080 --> 0:15:18.960 So I ain't gonna say no names or whatever, but 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:25.680 I heard. I heard it was the instance where Motherfucker's 0:15:25.720 --> 0:15:27.640 is getting ready to make a move or whatever. And 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:31.720 they was in the hotel, right, so you know the hotels, 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:37.000 you know they have plush safe in the hotel, and uh, 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:43.760 you know, they was in the hotel and uh should 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:46.280 supposedly have put his ship in the in the um 0:15:46.320 --> 0:15:50.120 safe in this big room. And some of the homies 0:15:50.160 --> 0:15:51.640 went up there to go have a meeting with him. 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:53.080 So I ain't gonna say they name, you know, because 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:54.440 you know what I'm saying, I love at homies. I 0:15:54.480 --> 0:15:55.960 don't want to make it look like we're making fun 0:15:55.960 --> 0:15:58.600 of motherfucker's. But they went up there to have a 0:15:58.600 --> 0:16:01.560 meeting with him, and she was up there, a couple 0:16:01.600 --> 0:16:05.480 of the homies or whatever, and the safe was open 0:16:05.720 --> 0:16:08.040 and it's those those safe you know that in the room, 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:12.840 the big black safe, and so the uh and this 0:16:12.920 --> 0:16:14.920 is all what I heard. I'm telling the story because 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:17.920 of off of what I heard. So niggas know what 0:16:17.960 --> 0:16:20.880 they did. Whatever. So it was jury and the safe. 0:16:21.720 --> 0:16:23.320 You know, he'll take his jury off through it in 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:26.840 the safe or whatever. So after the meeting, they had 0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:28.600 a meeting blah blah blah, this and this and that. 0:16:28.840 --> 0:16:31.880 So a couple of the homies was about to leave 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:36.400 and a phone ring and his fat boy he said, 0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:40.120 you know, she said, hey, come back, would be a 0:16:40.160 --> 0:16:43.400 real quick and they could tell the way he said it, 0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:45.440 it sounds like some bushit. It was like oh, Ship 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:47.880 and the homies was with him, and Ship was like, 0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:49.760 what's going on? What? What? What? And he was like, 0:16:49.800 --> 0:16:51.600 oh man, they want us to come back. And the 0:16:51.640 --> 0:16:53.800 home was like, man, why what's going on? What's happening. 0:16:54.600 --> 0:17:00.640 So the niggas double back and coming to the hotel room. 0:17:00.840 --> 0:17:02.920 Motherfucker just got on their head and was like, man, 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:05.600 where my ship at. I was like, what ship? Man? 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:09.280 My jury missing? And he was like just grabbing motherfucking 0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:12.080 And from what I hear them, they picked him up 0:17:12.119 --> 0:17:14.320 off the ground. Darth Vader and the boy I'm talking 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:17.040 about it ain't no little nigga neither, but like ready 0:17:17.080 --> 0:17:19.200 to tear here I'm talking about, was on his head. 0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:23.560 You hear me still there? Yeah, then I you know, 0:17:23.720 --> 0:17:27.160 calling him up and ship like some real ship, like, man, 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:29.240 where my ship at? Because back then, you know, like 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:32.520 some of that ship is like easily like five hundred 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:34.680 thousand dollars worth the fucking jury, you know what I'm saying, 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:39.639 rollies and ship plushed out or whatever the stuff. No, not, no, 0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:42.600 let me finish the story. This is what's crazy. So 0:17:42.640 --> 0:17:44.640 they got on the nigger man and I'm talking about 0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:47.200 pressing nigga and about the I don't know if they 0:17:47.320 --> 0:17:49.800 took off on him, but he was he was sucked up, 0:17:49.840 --> 0:17:52.399 like you know, pressing real hard. And my nigga the 0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:54.520 type of nigga that ain't gonna do no ship like that. 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:57.639 So you know, the other homie was like, man, hold on, 0:17:57.720 --> 0:18:00.320 hold on, man, the homie don't do no ship like that, right, 0:18:00.800 --> 0:18:02.840 And they didn't grab the nigga up. And I heard 0:18:02.880 --> 0:18:05.000 they probably like slap him up a couple of times 0:18:05.080 --> 0:18:07.600 or whatever. I'm just telling the story how I heard it. 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:11.240 But the nigg got, you know, he got, he got 0:18:11.440 --> 0:18:13.520 some ship. That's when death Row was at his at 0:18:13.520 --> 0:18:16.640 his finest, you know what I mean, the safe home. 0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:20.080 He was like, man, hold on, hold on all this 0:18:20.200 --> 0:18:23.160 motherfucking jewelry. They still you want to hear the funny ship, 0:18:24.160 --> 0:18:28.679 the slid off of the velvet pillow behind the pillow 0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:32.600 and the black safe, and the ship was always in 0:18:32.640 --> 0:18:34.840 the safe the whole time when they moved the pillow 0:18:35.280 --> 0:18:40.760 like man, it's right thereze and the HOPI just he 0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:44.160 was just like all right, damn it. Didn't even apologize. 0:18:44.200 --> 0:18:46.440 It was like all right for sure and just let 0:18:46.440 --> 0:18:49.240 the niggas go on. So it was definitely some ship 0:18:49.760 --> 0:18:54.600 going on back in the studios back in the day. Dude, 0:18:54.600 --> 0:18:58.040 try to fight back anything. Hell no, you can't fight 0:18:58.119 --> 0:19:00.680 back big still, I'm telling you're what I'm saying on me. 0:19:01.160 --> 0:19:04.159 Death Row at his prime, full strength. It's better to 0:19:04.200 --> 0:19:07.080 take that little swallow your pride. You walk out a 0:19:07.119 --> 0:19:11.400 love full stress, shooting a few dollars for the inconvenience. 0:19:12.119 --> 0:19:14.320 The inconvenience is nigger. You made it up out of here. 0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:17.840 And when I thought, you stole my ship, what I'm saying, 0:19:17.960 --> 0:19:21.080 And then it was another answers where the home? You 0:19:21.119 --> 0:19:22.720 know what I'm talking about? But I can. I ain't 0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:26.080 gonna say no names or whatever. But somebody had Bootleg 0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:29.040 to take and it was a real big artist coming 0:19:29.119 --> 0:19:32.199 up by the death Road that got the tape. I 0:19:32.240 --> 0:19:34.320 don't know. See if I say too much, they're gon 0:19:34.320 --> 0:19:37.720 connect the dots. But it was a real big artists, 0:19:40.760 --> 0:19:42.840 a real big artist coming up by the death row. 0:19:42.880 --> 0:19:45.600 He said, many fingers I put up, okay, okay, okay, 0:19:45.640 --> 0:19:48.119 I got you, and the audience can see that. Yeah. 0:19:48.200 --> 0:19:52.200 So it was a real big artist. And somehow one 0:19:52.240 --> 0:19:54.600 of the dudes, one of the homies, end up getting 0:19:54.600 --> 0:19:56.520 the tape. And I heard was Bootleg and the ship 0:19:57.400 --> 0:19:59.280 or did some ship that they weren't supposed to do. 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:01.520 And Quick might have spoke on this, and one of 0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:05.920 the records Bootleg the all lines on me, y'all gonna 0:20:05.920 --> 0:20:09.080 listen to that right there. But yeah, but that was 0:20:09.119 --> 0:20:12.119 one of them come on to you know, come up 0:20:12.119 --> 0:20:14.639 here the Red Room. They call it the Red Room meetings. 0:20:15.680 --> 0:20:18.679 And then you got his ass told the pieces. And 0:20:18.680 --> 0:20:23.359 this is another big nigger, another big nigger. Yeah, I 0:20:23.400 --> 0:20:25.679 think I knew the initials to this name. Should I 0:20:25.680 --> 0:20:28.800 say the initials? Yeah? I won't say this will be yall, y'all, 0:20:28.800 --> 0:20:31.000 we had to do your homework on this one right here. Now, 0:20:31.080 --> 0:20:32.439 I got so much ship, you got to bring me 0:20:32.440 --> 0:20:35.200 back on. I got so much ship, crazy man, y'all, 0:20:35.280 --> 0:20:36.959 you want to look out for part two right here, 0:20:36.960 --> 0:20:38.919 because we've got some ship going on. We got some 0:20:38.960 --> 0:20:40.879 other ship we gotta talk to you all about. You know, 0:20:41.160 --> 0:20:44.040 this real ship though. You know this ship ain't homey 0:20:44.080 --> 0:20:46.359 got you know, but I mean by right like you 0:20:46.400 --> 0:20:48.359 Bootleg and nigga ship, you taking money out of it, 0:20:48.640 --> 0:20:52.080 you know, ta the nigga his pockets out of kids, myles? 0:20:52.160 --> 0:20:54.919 Why am I like Nigga going the studio, blood sweating 0:20:54.960 --> 0:20:57.119 tears doing this ship for motherfucker just to take it 0:20:57.119 --> 0:20:59.679 and bootlegged and give it to a motherfucker so you 0:20:59.720 --> 0:21:01.640 could d you had nothing to do with this ship 0:21:02.320 --> 0:21:04.560 like I understand why dude was man like that. So 0:21:05.000 --> 0:21:11.199 then you got in that red room and boy, I 0:21:11.240 --> 0:21:13.199 want to ask you about another whooping. If she was 0:21:13.240 --> 0:21:15.280 around for this whooping? Um, and this this got to 0:21:15.280 --> 0:21:18.040 do with her own, boy bet, because you know Sama, 0:21:18.080 --> 0:21:21.040 I just called Mosama, Osaman them on what the few 0:21:21.080 --> 0:21:24.720 people's ask open the thing and we could talk about this. Um, 0:21:24.840 --> 0:21:27.480 what was the name of that label? Man? That that 0:21:27.480 --> 0:21:31.919 that Osama And then was messing with Oh the you're 0:21:31.960 --> 0:21:37.640 talking about the Shepherd Lane, No, not shepperd Lane, this bungalow. Yeah, 0:21:37.640 --> 0:21:40.040 what was my man's name up there? Oh? Yeah, you 0:21:40.080 --> 0:21:45.879 know his name? But a little executive I saw the 0:21:45.920 --> 0:21:49.679 homeboy Sama was in the meeting. He was talking about 0:21:50.359 --> 0:21:52.360 let's get some stuff off the table, and dude kind 0:21:52.359 --> 0:21:54.080 of got smart and got the taste slapt out of 0:21:54.119 --> 0:21:56.919 his mouth back. And that's how I used to go 0:21:57.000 --> 0:21:58.440 back in the day. Let's go back to day you 0:21:58.480 --> 0:22:00.960 talked back. He was getting slapped a rounds toe up. 0:22:01.280 --> 0:22:03.240 And that's kind of the reason why, Like they always 0:22:03.280 --> 0:22:06.000 asked me, why I don't get into like putting out 0:22:06.000 --> 0:22:08.600 a lot of dudes or you know, producing other artists 0:22:08.640 --> 0:22:11.040 and ship like that, and It's kind of rare that 0:22:11.160 --> 0:22:14.080 you see a dude that's really about this ship, that 0:22:14.320 --> 0:22:17.199 really have that drive and really want to stay in 0:22:17.200 --> 0:22:19.840 the studio. I really want to sleep in the stayn 0:22:19.960 --> 0:22:22.480 care if they shave or take a bath. Them the 0:22:22.560 --> 0:22:24.280 kind of niggas I wanted. I didn't want to Nigga 0:22:24.320 --> 0:22:26.280 win like we did. We slept on the studio floor. 0:22:26.920 --> 0:22:29.120 Niggas that that won't take a bath for three days. 0:22:29.160 --> 0:22:31.560 But I'm gonna write this song. I'm gonna finish this song. 0:22:31.600 --> 0:22:35.600 And these days, man to me, excuse me, but it's 0:22:35.680 --> 0:22:38.120 it's just hard to find that drive. And dudes these 0:22:38.160 --> 0:22:40.760 days they want that ship overnight. They want to be like, 0:22:40.760 --> 0:22:42.560 oh I just got a record deal and they're gonna 0:22:42.560 --> 0:22:45.959 go buy Jerry on the second day, Like Nigga, We 0:22:45.960 --> 0:22:50.080 was in that motherfucker Jerry curl, dried out, breath stinking, 0:22:50.160 --> 0:22:53.119 and they smell like whatever the funk. We smell like 0:22:53.320 --> 0:22:57.280 two day old, what the fuck? But we're trying to 0:22:57.280 --> 0:23:01.199 get this this that word roll. Like Tupac come in 0:23:01.200 --> 0:23:03.280 there at my fucking manuty and quick and told me 0:23:03.320 --> 0:23:05.840 stories about like Tupac running both of the studios and 0:23:05.880 --> 0:23:08.400 ship like he'd coming there and funk with this beat 0:23:08.480 --> 0:23:12.840 Quick was doing, and then funk with the other producer. Man. 0:23:12.880 --> 0:23:15.040 I think it was Johnny one of them or dre 0:23:15.200 --> 0:23:18.000 track or whatever. He was going back and forth, and 0:23:18.560 --> 0:23:21.119 Quick said he had hit his cigarette and ship and smoked. 0:23:21.359 --> 0:23:23.240 Go take a break, but he will not leave that 0:23:23.320 --> 0:23:27.000 motherfucker because his work ethic was just something crazy, bro. 0:23:27.520 --> 0:23:30.080 And I just feel like, yeah, I feel like, if 0:23:30.119 --> 0:23:32.240 if dudes ain't giving me that energy, bro, I ain't 0:23:32.240 --> 0:23:35.480 gonna waste my money or my time to be trying 0:23:35.520 --> 0:23:37.720 to produce one of fucker's ain't hold people's hand. That's 0:23:37.720 --> 0:23:41.000 why I'm not really into like doing that whole thing, man. 0:23:41.040 --> 0:23:42.760 And I know it's some dope talent out there, but 0:23:42.800 --> 0:23:46.119 it's just that's just not my I'm gonna tell you 0:23:46.160 --> 0:23:51.080 for real, man. Digital Soapbox has a record label. Yeah, yeah, 0:23:51.080 --> 0:23:53.160 we got a record label. The actually got some little 0:23:53.160 --> 0:23:55.439 funding to a dog. And I would just rather go 0:23:55.480 --> 0:23:57.359 back and miss with the O G S like you 0:23:57.920 --> 0:24:00.119 missed with past like eight, because y'all gonna do what 0:24:00.200 --> 0:24:03.760 it takes, man, yea take we go going there. It's like, 0:24:03.760 --> 0:24:05.480 I'm gonna tell you, ain't nothing worse. I had an 0:24:05.560 --> 0:24:08.639 artist before man, and I'm not with the babysitting stuff. 0:24:08.680 --> 0:24:11.159 So I booke time. I booked time, and I go 0:24:11.280 --> 0:24:13.119 up there about like the time it's time. It is 0:24:13.160 --> 0:24:14.959 like from four to nine. I got a book from 0:24:14.960 --> 0:24:17.480 four to nine, so I let artists do their thing. 0:24:18.040 --> 0:24:20.359 I don't police nobody because obviously I signed you. I 0:24:20.359 --> 0:24:22.959 think you're doping up the handle business. I go up 0:24:22.960 --> 0:24:25.560 to the studio, man at six o'clock. Mine, you've been 0:24:25.640 --> 0:24:30.119 up there since four. I go up there. Studio reeks 0:24:30.119 --> 0:24:34.040 of marijuana bottles everywhere, and I'm like, okay, let me 0:24:34.080 --> 0:24:36.240 hear the music. I'm expecting my Beagle Press playing and 0:24:36.240 --> 0:24:39.280 I'm hear some incredible stuff. Oh, we ain't got started yet. 0:24:39.320 --> 0:24:41.560 We're getting the vibe. I said, what that vibe cut off? 0:24:41.560 --> 0:24:43.640 I said, man, you know what shut this ship down? Man? 0:24:43.840 --> 0:24:45.960 Never will do it again, man, because you know what 0:24:46.280 --> 0:24:49.719 you up here playing? Yeah. Man, See that's the one 0:24:49.760 --> 0:24:51.959 thing I miss about ship. Like to get you in 0:24:52.000 --> 0:24:56.000 there when the doors open. If it's game on and 0:24:56.040 --> 0:24:57.960 you wanted the players think you better be playing, You 0:24:58.040 --> 0:25:00.159 better be hooping, you better be rocking, you better be 0:25:00.200 --> 0:25:02.960 doing something, because we ain't wasting no bread there's too 0:25:02.960 --> 0:25:06.679 many other motherfucker's that's in the line that's trying to 0:25:06.720 --> 0:25:09.639 eat too. If you're not gonna eat while you with 0:25:09.760 --> 0:25:13.040 your turn, they can move out the way. And that's 0:25:13.040 --> 0:25:15.520 just that's just how I go. Man. Yeah, man, you know, 0:25:15.640 --> 0:25:17.720 so we can take a break real quick and we 0:25:17.760 --> 0:25:20.200 can come right back. Y'all go ahead and check out 0:25:20.200 --> 0:25:23.400 our sponsors and make sure y'all support Yeah for sure. 0:25:23.440 --> 0:25:26.640 So your first record deal was actually on Disney. Yeah, 0:25:26.800 --> 0:25:28.920 that ship was on Disney bro And that's what we 0:25:29.000 --> 0:25:34.560 gotta make a whole movie documentary on the first rapper 0:25:35.359 --> 0:25:38.159 on Disney and after me, they changed that ship to 0:25:38.200 --> 0:25:41.160 Hollywood Records, like they wanted to be in the rap game, 0:25:41.200 --> 0:25:45.280 but they didn't really want to, like the association, because like, 0:25:45.520 --> 0:25:47.560 why did y'all sign me and give me all this money? 0:25:47.600 --> 0:25:50.120 One thing they did they failed me. They laced me up, 0:25:50.200 --> 0:25:53.480 they kept my pockets right, they giving it a check 0:25:53.520 --> 0:25:55.280 just to shut me up sometimes because I'd be in 0:25:55.280 --> 0:25:58.800 there complained and this ship, it's like and Peter Returnal 0:25:58.960 --> 0:26:01.280 was the president at the time time. He's the lawyer 0:26:01.320 --> 0:26:03.560 on Dr Dre ship right now. You know Dr Dre 0:26:03.640 --> 0:26:05.000 and M and them. I think he had something to 0:26:05.000 --> 0:26:07.400 do with the dre Beast deal. You know, Peter turn 0:26:07.800 --> 0:26:11.240 of course. Yeah, so heavyweight. Hell yeah, Michael Eisner at 0:26:11.240 --> 0:26:15.480 the time was over everything. So I'm like, they signed, 0:26:15.560 --> 0:26:18.879 you know, they know where we come from. Quick was 0:26:18.920 --> 0:26:22.960 doing his deal that Profile second, and I was doing Profile. 0:26:23.040 --> 0:26:25.240 I think AMG was doing Select. I think it was 0:26:25.280 --> 0:26:28.000 Select Records or whatever. It's the beauty of it. We 0:26:28.119 --> 0:26:31.760 all had our own individual deals, but we was already 0:26:31.760 --> 0:26:34.320 like Votron, we was already clicked up. But everybody to 0:26:34.600 --> 0:26:37.920 get their individual back and none of them pockets was 0:26:38.000 --> 0:26:42.000 deeper than that Disney ship. You know what I'm saying. 0:26:42.040 --> 0:26:44.240 Hell yeah, no, I mean, boy, the fucked up some 0:26:44.560 --> 0:26:48.880 good money. Just you talk about Disney Man. So at 0:26:48.920 --> 0:26:52.119 that time, I'm pretty sure they wanted to kind of 0:26:52.200 --> 0:26:55.159 censor a lot of your material. Yeah, they wanted everything 0:26:55.200 --> 0:26:58.120 to be kind of clean. Yeah, that's exactly what they wanted. 0:26:58.160 --> 0:26:59.280 You know what I'm saying, Because you didn't hear a 0:26:59.320 --> 0:27:01.840 whole bunch of Kurt your earlier records. I mean, it 0:27:02.280 --> 0:27:04.320 was a bunch of cursing on my records. That's kind 0:27:04.320 --> 0:27:06.880 of what we like. We'll make jokes sometimes now, like 0:27:07.000 --> 0:27:10.560 well compared to today, in comparison to what they doing 0:27:10.560 --> 0:27:13.399 to day, it was kind of lightweight back then. I 0:27:13.440 --> 0:27:17.120 won't say. I won't say it was lightweight, but I'll 0:27:17.160 --> 0:27:19.760 say if it was different, but that it was different. 0:27:19.800 --> 0:27:23.080 It was different, It was different stuff. Yeah, we was 0:27:23.480 --> 0:27:27.320 more like street party, let's have some fun, let's hit 0:27:27.359 --> 0:27:30.240 the street, let's you know, party turn up or whatever. 0:27:30.720 --> 0:27:32.680 And they still do the same ship today, but it's 0:27:32.720 --> 0:27:35.120 just in a different way, you know. Yeah, you sold 0:27:35.119 --> 0:27:38.600 a lot of records with this hell. Yeah, and that's 0:27:38.640 --> 0:27:41.120 when they wasn't really tracking ship, you know, like sound 0:27:41.160 --> 0:27:43.880 scan wasn't really That's when they was the bootleg ship 0:27:43.920 --> 0:27:45.720 was heavy. So a lot of this ship was bootleg. 0:27:45.840 --> 0:27:48.199 But yeah, we did good with him. Yeah, because I 0:27:48.240 --> 0:27:52.520 think you would sound scanning something like three hundred thousand copies, Yeah, 0:27:52.840 --> 0:27:55.720 probably more so you figured efficiently. Now, Yeah, if you 0:27:55.800 --> 0:27:58.600 signed scanning three hundred something body across, you probably sold 0:27:58.600 --> 0:28:00.520 back in that time people on this and how big 0:28:00.520 --> 0:28:02.960 the bootleg and stuff with you might have sold six 0:28:02.960 --> 0:28:06.080 seven thousand, Oh yeah, for sure. Definitely. That's to me, 0:28:06.160 --> 0:28:09.800 that was easy. And I love the fact that Disney 0:28:09.800 --> 0:28:13.280 put me in like like the soundtracks of and seeing 0:28:13.280 --> 0:28:15.520 a man. Certain movies that I was working with, like 0:28:15.840 --> 0:28:18.360 South Center, like certain movies I had action to, like 0:28:18.760 --> 0:28:21.240 getting in and putting my music in these these movies 0:28:21.280 --> 0:28:24.040 and soundtracks and stuff like that, because of course it 0:28:24.119 --> 0:28:26.199 was Disney, but they'll link me up a certain stuff. 0:28:26.720 --> 0:28:28.840 And then you know, I was getting breaks like like 0:28:28.920 --> 0:28:33.800 the Chris Rock ship, the cbfour movie. Yea doing a rapping, 0:28:34.680 --> 0:28:36.760 me doing a rapping, and Daddy, I was doing a 0:28:36.840 --> 0:28:39.760 rapping from step to sonic from doing the other part 0:28:39.760 --> 0:28:43.320 of this ship. Yeah, straight out of low Cash and 0:28:43.360 --> 0:28:45.880 all that swept for my balls and shout out to 0:28:45.920 --> 0:28:48.400 Chris Rock right now. You know he hot right now 0:28:48.960 --> 0:28:52.080 because all that controversial ship. But um, and then I 0:28:52.080 --> 0:28:55.000 did another soundtrack for Chris Rock on that head of State. 0:28:55.080 --> 0:28:56.640 I think it was called some movie or something. I 0:28:56.680 --> 0:28:59.240 put one of my ships in there. So when I 0:28:59.280 --> 0:29:01.920 catch up with Chris Man, we got a holler. Bro. Yeah, 0:29:01.960 --> 0:29:04.680 for sure, you did a lot of pivotal stuff. Let 0:29:04.680 --> 0:29:06.880 me ask you this man, this during the time. Man, 0:29:06.880 --> 0:29:09.480 we're talking about the eighties right now, and in the 0:29:09.480 --> 0:29:12.000 eighties it was just a whole another level as far 0:29:12.040 --> 0:29:16.120 as gangsterism and the streets people was really gang banging, 0:29:16.280 --> 0:29:19.440 and Quick was one of the first correct me if 0:29:19.440 --> 0:29:22.320 I'm wrong. Quick was one of the first people to 0:29:22.440 --> 0:29:24.840 really start kind of like banging the wax a little 0:29:24.880 --> 0:29:27.240 bit because he would throw a little stuff in there. Yeah, 0:29:27.440 --> 0:29:29.760 he would throw a little subliminal stuff in the records 0:29:30.080 --> 0:29:31.520 and kind of let you know what it is. You 0:29:31.560 --> 0:29:34.360 know on the mixtapes, you know, Ship the tape, you know, 0:29:34.400 --> 0:29:37.040 the hood tape. So he just you know, we just 0:29:38.000 --> 0:29:39.880 let it be known. And then after that it was 0:29:39.960 --> 0:29:42.080 becoming kind of like, you know, the dudes that was 0:29:42.200 --> 0:29:44.840 kind of stepping up because back then it ain't gonna 0:29:44.840 --> 0:29:46.560 lie bro. It was just kind of hard to just 0:29:46.680 --> 0:29:49.720 really get out there and just kind of put yourself 0:29:49.760 --> 0:29:52.719 on the front line like that because it was really 0:29:54.080 --> 0:29:57.200 like motherfucker's that will come and test your ship, you 0:29:57.200 --> 0:30:00.640 know what I'm saying. So you do ship nowadays, and 0:30:00.680 --> 0:30:04.080 it's still bad, don't get me wrong, but it's not 0:30:04.200 --> 0:30:07.880 cameras everywhere back then like it is today. You can't 0:30:07.920 --> 0:30:11.120 sucking sneeze or take a leak on the side of 0:30:11.120 --> 0:30:13.360 a building without the motherfucker filming you now. But back 0:30:13.400 --> 0:30:16.560 then and then it comes slide on you and do whatever, 0:30:16.600 --> 0:30:18.240 and they don't know who did it until you know 0:30:18.280 --> 0:30:21.440 what I'm saying, Like some of the greatest rappers alive, 0:30:21.520 --> 0:30:23.680 they still don't. You know, it's unsolved. But right now, 0:30:24.200 --> 0:30:27.480 dudes got cameras everywhere, they're actually doing ship on camera. 0:30:27.520 --> 0:30:29.240 That's why I don't really rock with the social media 0:30:29.280 --> 0:30:32.800 shipped too much, like taunting motherfucker's on cameras and motherfucker's 0:30:32.880 --> 0:30:35.560 running up on people trying to get points and cloud 0:30:35.560 --> 0:30:38.320 are doing the get shipped to people on camera. That's 0:30:38.400 --> 0:30:40.440 just not my lane. I don't feel it. But if 0:30:40.480 --> 0:30:43.720 that's what niggas do, I respect that. But it was 0:30:43.800 --> 0:30:46.400 just different back then, bro. So when you said some ship, 0:30:46.480 --> 0:30:49.920 you had to really stand on some ship. It wouldn't 0:30:49.960 --> 0:30:52.080 like now because, um I see a lot of people 0:30:52.080 --> 0:30:54.520 that claim they pie rouse their bloods and this and 0:30:54.600 --> 0:30:57.920 crips and they're not necessarily really like that and they 0:30:57.960 --> 0:30:59.880 can kind of get away with it. But back then, 0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:01.680 you really had to stand on. You had to be 0:31:01.720 --> 0:31:04.080 a man and where the read yeah, hell yeah, you 0:31:04.120 --> 0:31:06.760 have to especially being a blood Hell yeah, you already 0:31:06.800 --> 0:31:09.920 know back then because y'all plush, y'all king in the 0:31:09.960 --> 0:31:12.280 time that where everybody has seemed like was crips at 0:31:12.280 --> 0:31:14.760 the time. That's hey, the family back back and you 0:31:14.800 --> 0:31:17.040 know I had family. I got family out of town 0:31:17.080 --> 0:31:19.040 from the South and ship and they used to be 0:31:19.080 --> 0:31:20.960 concerned about me and ship because they heard I was 0:31:21.040 --> 0:31:23.360 running in the streets and they was like, you're not 0:31:23.440 --> 0:31:25.880 You're not running, You're not. Uh. They all they thought 0:31:25.880 --> 0:31:28.320 it was crip. Mean, they thought krip mean everything. You 0:31:28.360 --> 0:31:31.240 know what I'm saying, crip was the Mexican Games. Crip 0:31:31.320 --> 0:31:33.160 was that they didn't know, you know, you're not you're 0:31:33.200 --> 0:31:37.280 not what you're not doing the crypt now like now 0:31:37.320 --> 0:31:40.240 the what were doing. But they didn't understand it. This ship, 0:31:40.280 --> 0:31:43.120 but it was it was it was hard back then 0:31:43.160 --> 0:31:45.360 to be you know. Now, did y'all ever have any 0:31:45.400 --> 0:31:49.200 conflict with that, like because people know him, y'all it 0:31:49.240 --> 0:31:53.560 was part rouge time. Yeah, you best God there right, 0:31:53.800 --> 0:31:55.680 let's talk about it. Man. We was the only one. 0:31:55.760 --> 0:31:58.360 We was like the first ones to come out and 0:31:58.520 --> 0:32:00.840 just they knew we wasn't you know, like they heard 0:32:00.840 --> 0:32:02.440 a lot of the ship and what we was dressed 0:32:02.480 --> 0:32:04.600 like and what we was wearing. They know we wasn't 0:32:04.640 --> 0:32:08.000 you know, we wasn't no crips. They know exactly what 0:32:08.080 --> 0:32:10.480 was going on. And it was like dudes that that, 0:32:10.600 --> 0:32:12.480 like you said, the dudes from out of town that 0:32:12.600 --> 0:32:15.000 probably heard somebody to say something. And then you have 0:32:15.120 --> 0:32:17.480 some real niggas, Like I mean, it was one of 0:32:17.480 --> 0:32:20.840 those things I think, if I'm not mistaken, we was 0:32:20.920 --> 0:32:24.760 kind of like the first ones from from that side 0:32:24.800 --> 0:32:29.160 to really go out and tour and people be known like, okay, 0:32:29.200 --> 0:32:31.680 them niggas is dogs and you know the other niggas. 0:32:31.720 --> 0:32:34.920 Looks like we were just torn, toring torn and everywhere 0:32:34.960 --> 0:32:38.040 we go where some other. Back then before all the ship, 0:32:38.760 --> 0:32:41.680 all the ship got twisted up. Norm all the bloods 0:32:41.720 --> 0:32:44.440 have respect for each other, loved each other. It used 0:32:44.480 --> 0:32:46.360 to be a thing where dudes and say blood love 0:32:46.600 --> 0:32:48.640 you know what I'm saying. And it was like I 0:32:48.640 --> 0:32:50.800 can go to San Diego, pull up on the dog 0:32:50.880 --> 0:32:54.400 and just share break bread or whatever. I can go 0:32:54.520 --> 0:32:57.120 from anywhere and it was like, come on, blood, let's 0:32:57.200 --> 0:32:59.840 you know who. It was cool, like, man, the nigga 0:33:00.040 --> 0:33:02.480 gout for you. But now they beet with each other 0:33:02.560 --> 0:33:05.040 something terrible. I remember at that time, man, I remember 0:33:05.080 --> 0:33:07.560 at that time that bloods would look out for bloods 0:33:07.560 --> 0:33:10.400 and crips would look out for crips, and now it's 0:33:10.400 --> 0:33:12.920 the thing man that wears more bloods killing bloods now, 0:33:13.000 --> 0:33:17.200 and there's more crips killing crips. What do you think man? 0:33:17.280 --> 0:33:19.680 Being one of them dudes that was that's really a 0:33:19.760 --> 0:33:21.760 veteran of the streets. A lot of people don't never 0:33:21.800 --> 0:33:23.920 bring your name up. But she was a real gangster. 0:33:24.600 --> 0:33:26.440 You know what I'm saying. You're a real gangster, you 0:33:26.480 --> 0:33:28.480 know what I mean. It was a real gangster. Of course, 0:33:28.520 --> 0:33:31.960 we've grown men now, got children and you know, responsibilities 0:33:31.960 --> 0:33:34.200 and stuff. So ain't nobody running the streets like they was. 0:33:34.360 --> 0:33:39.800 But during that time, have you ever had an incident 0:33:39.840 --> 0:33:41.720 on the road where you really thought it was gonna 0:33:41.720 --> 0:33:44.760 go down? Man, we had a whole bunch of fucking 0:33:44.800 --> 0:33:47.160 incidents like that ship quick talking about in the record, 0:33:47.240 --> 0:33:50.080 just Liketen like being shot at this ship coming out 0:33:50.120 --> 0:33:53.280 the back of the show, and the dude like, just 0:33:53.560 --> 0:33:55.680 for instance, one night we're doing the show and I've 0:33:55.680 --> 0:33:57.800 seen the dude had on this green never forgive a 0:33:57.880 --> 0:34:00.360 color you had on green? With his change this ship 0:34:00.440 --> 0:34:03.640 he was doing this thing or whatever. Then he was 0:34:03.920 --> 0:34:05.920 in the show and joined the show singing our ship 0:34:07.240 --> 0:34:11.839 and I think that was San Antonio. I'm not if 0:34:11.840 --> 0:34:14.960 I'm not mistaken. Dude party and they had a couple 0:34:15.000 --> 0:34:17.040 of his homies with him. I don't remember who exactly 0:34:17.120 --> 0:34:19.960 was with him, but long story short, bro, we came 0:34:20.000 --> 0:34:23.080 out and dude was laid out man shotting the dome 0:34:23.200 --> 0:34:26.120 like somebody got him and domed him out there, and 0:34:26.160 --> 0:34:27.719 he was like damn. And then we was trying to 0:34:27.719 --> 0:34:30.440 get out the building. Some motherfuckers started shooting at us. 0:34:30.440 --> 0:34:32.719 We had to throw the vest on quick and some 0:34:32.800 --> 0:34:35.719 of our our team was with us security and ship 0:34:35.840 --> 0:34:38.960 and homies and start shooting back at them. And we 0:34:39.000 --> 0:34:41.200 got in the van. We had EMC Breed with his 0:34:41.239 --> 0:34:44.080 man and EMC Breed manager was like, what the funk 0:34:44.160 --> 0:34:46.960 going on? Y'all? This ship is real. This dude jumped here. 0:34:47.000 --> 0:34:49.400 I think he had on a white suit. He jumped 0:34:49.440 --> 0:34:51.359 on the ground and was laying under a van and 0:34:51.400 --> 0:34:54.400 got up. I was like, man, y'all, motherfucker's crazy this 0:34:54.440 --> 0:34:56.799 And then we was like, man, this this kind of high. 0:34:56.880 --> 0:34:58.759 Go homie, when you're pushing this line, you know what 0:34:58.760 --> 0:35:00.200 I'm saying, And not that we was pushing in the 0:35:00.239 --> 0:35:02.480 line like that of banging on niggas, but they just 0:35:02.560 --> 0:35:04.279 knew where we was from, you know what I'm saying, 0:35:04.320 --> 0:35:07.239 So it was just made it a little bit harder. Yeah, 0:35:07.360 --> 0:35:10.680 let's talk about this. And ironically, I wish I had 0:35:10.719 --> 0:35:16.600 the homie up here today. You know, eight was from Tragnew. 0:35:18.040 --> 0:35:21.840 Eight was from Tragnew. Y'all from Tree Top, y'all local 0:35:21.880 --> 0:35:24.799 to each other. You're both from Compton. When the beef 0:35:24.880 --> 0:35:27.799 started with him and quick, how intense did that get 0:35:27.800 --> 0:35:31.520 for the whole camp? Man? To be honest, it was 0:35:31.560 --> 0:35:33.840 one of those things to where, man, I don't even 0:35:33.840 --> 0:35:36.839 know like how the ship kind of really got kicked off, 0:35:37.760 --> 0:35:39.360 But it was one of those things to where it 0:35:39.400 --> 0:35:43.000 didn't really it wasn't no different from the regular day 0:35:43.000 --> 0:35:44.479 to day ship with us, you know what I'm saying, 0:35:44.480 --> 0:35:47.359 because that's what we used to think about Compton, man, 0:35:47.480 --> 0:35:49.000 And you know, Norman, because you haven't been out there 0:35:49.040 --> 0:35:53.200 with us a million times. And ship Compton got so 0:35:53.239 --> 0:35:57.080 many goddamned hoods. It's not that big, and it's it's 0:35:58.800 --> 0:36:02.759 overflowed with hoods and congested with different hoods. If you 0:36:02.880 --> 0:36:05.000 go on this side of the street, you in this hood. 0:36:05.040 --> 0:36:06.799 If you go down this way, you and this head. 0:36:06.840 --> 0:36:09.640 So we kind of just kept it pushing. It was 0:36:09.680 --> 0:36:12.560 just everyday protocol for us. You know what I'm saying, 0:36:12.640 --> 0:36:14.839 until we run into somebody. You know what I'm saying, 0:36:14.840 --> 0:36:17.200 You know that ship though we ain't really we ain't 0:36:17.239 --> 0:36:19.359 losing no sleep. I'm sure they ain't losing no sleep. 0:36:19.360 --> 0:36:22.440 But if you run into him, we're gonna address the situation, 0:36:22.480 --> 0:36:23.960 you know what I'm saying, Like, Hey, what's happening. And 0:36:24.000 --> 0:36:26.359 then when we saw him in the airport and ship, 0:36:26.400 --> 0:36:28.520 I thought it was cool, Like Quick said, you know 0:36:28.520 --> 0:36:30.640 what I'm saying, we've seen him and the nigga was 0:36:30.680 --> 0:36:32.640 on some big boy ship and I wasn't even gonna 0:36:32.680 --> 0:36:34.360 let it go down like that. We was. It was 0:36:34.800 --> 0:36:36.239 a few of us, and I think he was by 0:36:36.239 --> 0:36:39.200 itself for somebody with one person. And then he didn't 0:36:39.360 --> 0:36:41.040 rush him or nothing like that, because we don't do 0:36:41.080 --> 0:36:42.759 that ship. You know what I'm saying. It's like, if 0:36:42.760 --> 0:36:44.160 you want to take the faith, and then can take 0:36:44.200 --> 0:36:46.440 the faith if that's what you want to do right now. 0:36:46.560 --> 0:36:49.759 But they talked or whatever, exchange numbers and I think 0:36:49.760 --> 0:36:51.440 he changed his number and that's what kind of made 0:36:51.480 --> 0:36:53.920 Quick even matter, Like you know, what I'm saying, like 0:36:54.200 --> 0:36:55.839 we're supposed to be like when he said, you change 0:36:55.840 --> 0:36:58.880 a little deeper number. Back then niggas had pages, so 0:36:58.920 --> 0:37:00.959 he kind of changed his number. I think that's what happened. 0:37:01.000 --> 0:37:03.759 I'm not sure though. And the thing is, man, those 0:37:03.840 --> 0:37:07.920 sixty ways since usually be so tuchi that he might 0:37:07.960 --> 0:37:10.400 not have changed his number being on some stuff. It 0:37:10.560 --> 0:37:12.919 might not have had number because I changed my number 0:37:12.960 --> 0:37:14.560 all the time, That's what I'm saying. So you never 0:37:14.640 --> 0:37:16.840 knew what the fun. You know, we don't know what 0:37:16.880 --> 0:37:19.439 the fun is going on. But at that time, it's 0:37:19.480 --> 0:37:23.719 like motherfucker's young, full of testosterone. You know, we want 0:37:23.760 --> 0:37:25.399 to be the king of the hill, just like they 0:37:25.440 --> 0:37:27.160 want to be the king of the hill. Niggas know 0:37:27.320 --> 0:37:29.759 he had crept, they know we from where we're from 0:37:29.880 --> 0:37:34.000 or whatever. So it's it's like that tension. Everybody already 0:37:34.000 --> 0:37:36.200 looking at it like, Okay, you know, I'm motherfucker at 0:37:36.440 --> 0:37:38.279 at school. When you see a motherucker about the fight, 0:37:38.320 --> 0:37:41.479 you're like, oh, motherfucker's like they're doing all this ship, 0:37:41.480 --> 0:37:43.279 like let's see what the like. Motherfucker's just wanted to 0:37:43.280 --> 0:37:45.640 see what was gonna happen to me? And it was 0:37:45.680 --> 0:37:48.680 like no difference from like every dayhood ship. You know, 0:37:49.160 --> 0:37:51.000 yeah for sure, and that's what goes on. The one 0:37:51.040 --> 0:37:53.359 thing I do want to say, Eight has always let 0:37:53.360 --> 0:37:57.319 it be known I see my nigga, you know, chill 0:37:57.400 --> 0:38:00.200 to shout out chill. Yeah, you know, there's some good cats, man. 0:38:00.239 --> 0:38:02.960 And that one thing I do think is cool is 0:38:03.000 --> 0:38:05.719 that that stuff did get resolved. And I'm still waiting 0:38:05.719 --> 0:38:08.600 to hear that eight and DJ Quick album. Man, that 0:38:08.600 --> 0:38:10.360 that collaboration, you know what I mean. I think it 0:38:10.360 --> 0:38:12.480 would be dope. I think would be dope, and I 0:38:12.520 --> 0:38:15.680 think right about now it's something that we definitely could 0:38:16.560 --> 0:38:18.879 make happen. I think the world is still ready for that. 0:38:19.120 --> 0:38:21.279 Hell yeah, you know, I think the world is still 0:38:21.320 --> 0:38:23.719 ready for that. And they also also here they also 0:38:23.840 --> 0:38:26.279 ready to hear some new music from High See. Why 0:38:26.280 --> 0:38:28.520 do you wait so long in between songs man to 0:38:28.560 --> 0:38:31.000 put our projects? Man? You know what, like we do 0:38:31.120 --> 0:38:33.680 songs man, and at the time of the ship, just 0:38:33.760 --> 0:38:36.320 be right, I could play some ship right now. We 0:38:36.440 --> 0:38:39.200 got that. Ain't nobody heard a few things that ain't 0:38:39.200 --> 0:38:41.520 nobody heard that. People will be like, man, what the 0:38:41.560 --> 0:38:43.520 funk you doing? It's dope, ist fucking this and this 0:38:43.600 --> 0:38:46.080 and that, and sometimes we just work on ship and 0:38:46.160 --> 0:38:48.520 just put it to the side or never come out 0:38:48.560 --> 0:38:51.120 and start working on some new ship. Like you know, 0:38:51.880 --> 0:38:54.200 you know how the good ship you've been in the studio. Yeah, well, 0:38:54.239 --> 0:38:57.520 you know what what's funny man about that is like 0:38:57.560 --> 0:39:00.080 when we put let Me Know out that really it 0:39:00.160 --> 0:39:03.479 was four years old already, and the music is so good. 0:39:03.520 --> 0:39:07.000 It's timeless. It doesn't have no time stamps on or 0:39:07.040 --> 0:39:08.480 nothing like that, to where you can hear one of 0:39:08.480 --> 0:39:11.240 your records four years from now and it still sounds 0:39:11.239 --> 0:39:13.640 current and not believe that's because you guys are such 0:39:13.719 --> 0:39:17.800 great musicians. It's music and it's not tied into no trendy. 0:39:17.840 --> 0:39:21.000 Ship is not tied into no stuff that's going on. 0:39:21.160 --> 0:39:25.239 It's like you guys always recreating your own thing. That's man, 0:39:25.320 --> 0:39:27.959 we do, man, And that that record, that particular record 0:39:28.040 --> 0:39:29.719 you're talking about. Man, we were sitting in a quick 0:39:29.800 --> 0:39:32.960 living room and just sucking around. This Nick in his 0:39:33.120 --> 0:39:37.760 boxers and we're over there just fucking around with some ship. 0:39:38.120 --> 0:39:41.480 He's comfortable, we at the house chilling, and we just 0:39:41.520 --> 0:39:45.399 started sucking around. And everybody hear that song and be like, man, 0:39:45.520 --> 0:39:48.080 is that a sample offer, you know, is it Rogers 0:39:48.080 --> 0:39:50.320 that you know they think is a Zapp or somebody 0:39:50.440 --> 0:39:52.879 or you know, Roger Troutman or whatever the funk they 0:39:52.880 --> 0:39:55.120 think it is. But no, this is some ship that 0:39:56.040 --> 0:39:59.600 I think it did like straight, you know, just genius 0:39:59.640 --> 0:40:02.400 thinking and this me coming up with the hooks or 0:40:02.440 --> 0:40:06.640 whatever and ideas. That's one thing I love about the Click. 0:40:06.719 --> 0:40:12.440 We always threw ship at each other lines, hooks, choruses, 0:40:12.480 --> 0:40:14.279 you know, like when you're a groupy like man, I 0:40:14.280 --> 0:40:16.080 don't know, try to say this or do this or 0:40:16.360 --> 0:40:18.279 what you think about that? Like, no, we ain't doing 0:40:18.280 --> 0:40:19.600 that like that, you know what I'm saying that It 0:40:19.680 --> 0:40:23.920 was just always that good like camaraderie, you know what 0:40:23.920 --> 0:40:26.839 I mean, Like just team effort of putting out some 0:40:26.880 --> 0:40:31.160 good ship. Yeah, for sure. And I don't think when 0:40:31.160 --> 0:40:34.480 people mention top producers. A lot of people on the 0:40:34.520 --> 0:40:37.000 West always mention Quick's name and they top five. But 0:40:37.040 --> 0:40:40.200 a lot of people outside the West they always named 0:40:40.280 --> 0:40:42.680 Dr Dre and you know a few other people. But 0:40:42.800 --> 0:40:46.360 Quick as as Quick is not just a great producer, 0:40:46.800 --> 0:40:50.120 he's also a great engineer, also a great song writer. 0:40:50.400 --> 0:40:54.319 He does everything well. Everything He does everything well because 0:40:54.320 --> 0:40:56.120 a lot of hooks, y'all having on records to beat 0:40:56.160 --> 0:40:57.719 him singing. A lot of people don't know. They don't 0:40:57.719 --> 0:41:01.480 know NIGGI gets saying like the old Rigard prior said, 0:41:01.480 --> 0:41:05.239 and they have to saying to get some puzzy. So 0:41:05.239 --> 0:41:06.759 I want to ask you about a few people in 0:41:06.760 --> 0:41:10.439 the crew. Man, Um, how did Masburg rest in peace? 0:41:10.480 --> 0:41:13.399 Coming to the Fold? I want to hear the whole story. Man, 0:41:13.480 --> 0:41:16.879 Moss bird Man, Baby bird Man. That's that's man, that's 0:41:16.960 --> 0:41:20.080 my dude. I missed Masburg. Massburg came into the fold. 0:41:20.560 --> 0:41:23.799 Black Tone had the shop, the baseball car store. You 0:41:23.800 --> 0:41:26.080 know Black always keep a couple of businesses here. He 0:41:26.120 --> 0:41:29.120 had the beauty salon this story. You know, Black always 0:41:29.280 --> 0:41:34.839 getting that check. So um, he came up there and 0:41:35.480 --> 0:41:38.000 I don't know if it was one of the homies 0:41:38.120 --> 0:41:41.120 from Campanello, somebody brought him up there or whatever. And 0:41:41.160 --> 0:41:43.440 he had a little demo, man, and I never forget 0:41:44.200 --> 0:41:47.600 it was off of Michael Jackson. The doe dude did 0:41:47.640 --> 0:41:52.440 the doe dude? Dude? What is that with? Uh? Smooth criminal? 0:41:52.600 --> 0:41:55.319 You yep, smooth criminal. And he did a song off 0:41:55.360 --> 0:41:58.960 of that, and you you gotta know Mossberg is like 0:41:59.040 --> 0:42:01.520 six five normal, what was the six four and six 0:42:01.600 --> 0:42:07.160 five ship to ninety but almost then the three and 0:42:07.280 --> 0:42:10.400 big boy, you know what I'm saying, Like big intimidating, 0:42:10.640 --> 0:42:13.600 like but young though, and he was like and serious 0:42:13.640 --> 0:42:15.640 as fun, and I just like how he was serious. 0:42:15.640 --> 0:42:19.000 And he went by Johnny Burnt, like Johnny Burns and 0:42:19.040 --> 0:42:21.520 he had this song some something, Mr Johnny Burns is 0:42:21.560 --> 0:42:25.000 the real list this then the like he just changed 0:42:25.040 --> 0:42:27.239 it all up, and I was kind of like, man, 0:42:27.239 --> 0:42:30.680 this niked man. He I funk with him because out 0:42:30.680 --> 0:42:33.080 of all the ship you could have sampled what you did. 0:42:33.520 --> 0:42:36.960 He took Michael Jackson and did the ship off of 0:42:37.040 --> 0:42:40.600 Michael Jackson, but looking like serious, like yeah I did 0:42:40.600 --> 0:42:43.200 Michael Jackson. I saw Mallsburg was like, yeah I did 0:42:43.200 --> 0:42:45.839 Michael Jackson. What's up? And the nick ain't gonna say 0:42:45.840 --> 0:42:47.719 that to him ship? Like you know what I'm saying, 0:42:47.760 --> 0:42:50.000 Like because that nigga is bought his ship, you know 0:42:50.040 --> 0:42:52.200 what I'm saying. And I kind of used to smirking 0:42:52.320 --> 0:42:55.960 like did Michael Jackson. But Mallsburg was hard as fun, 0:42:56.080 --> 0:42:57.919 so we kind of I just I took a liking 0:42:57.960 --> 0:43:00.120 to him. Since then I love him, like man, he 0:43:00.239 --> 0:43:02.600 was like down to like say, you know, because I'm 0:43:02.640 --> 0:43:05.880 the type of nigguy. I like Michael Jackson too, Like, uh, 0:43:06.040 --> 0:43:08.600 my cousin and his girlfriend got in my car, one 0:43:08.640 --> 0:43:09.960 of my cars and ship. You know, I do the 0:43:09.960 --> 0:43:12.480 car shipped too, So I got a car business or whatever. 0:43:12.520 --> 0:43:15.719 I got my own dealership like ship, so I keep car. 0:43:15.760 --> 0:43:18.120 I'll be in all kinds of ships. So they got 0:43:18.120 --> 0:43:20.480 in one of my cars and I had a Michael 0:43:20.560 --> 0:43:23.120 Jackson CD in there, and they fell out laughing because 0:43:23.120 --> 0:43:26.200 they thinking like, oh, like crows ain't never listened to 0:43:26.280 --> 0:43:28.600 Michael Jackson. He's supposed to listen to. This was years ago, 0:43:28.680 --> 0:43:31.160 Like oh all you know hard Ship. I'm like, they 0:43:31.280 --> 0:43:33.960 go like, that's one of the best sounding albums, one 0:43:33.960 --> 0:43:38.080 of the best ever. Yeah, hell yeah. So I'm like 0:43:38.400 --> 0:43:40.480 the funk when I listening to Michael Jackson. So by 0:43:40.520 --> 0:43:43.080 Massy doing that, I was like, they could go head, 0:43:43.160 --> 0:43:44.919 let's see what you got. And then we just took 0:43:45.000 --> 0:43:47.479 him in and just grew a liking to him. Yeah 0:43:47.520 --> 0:43:49.480 for sure, And he got behind them quick beats in 0:43:49.520 --> 0:43:52.120 the rest man. That's yeah, that'ship history after that. But 0:43:52.200 --> 0:43:55.399 actually y'all did more songs together than anybody else, right, Yeah, 0:43:55.480 --> 0:43:57.759 me and Massy did we We didn't do We didn't 0:43:57.760 --> 0:43:59.319 get a chance to do all of the song. Like 0:43:59.440 --> 0:44:01.680 I said, we got Ship that ain't even came out 0:44:01.760 --> 0:44:04.480 or whatever, and Ship, but we do so much Ship 0:44:04.520 --> 0:44:06.200 norm You're like, we get in there and just get 0:44:06.200 --> 0:44:09.000 the working bro, and then when Ship get divvied up, 0:44:09.080 --> 0:44:10.680 or we want to put this on this album, do 0:44:10.800 --> 0:44:15.400 this on that album? Like, um, Ship, that's how I go. 0:44:15.680 --> 0:44:19.160 Because he was on his way man, and then um, 0:44:19.280 --> 0:44:21.880 he was murdered on the fourth of July weekend? Correct 0:44:22.520 --> 0:44:25.520 ye and michaelrect How how did that impact the whole camp? 0:44:26.040 --> 0:44:30.239 If fucked everybody up? Bro? Until this day, until this day, 0:44:30.360 --> 0:44:33.280 I really don't go nowhere on the fourth of July. 0:44:33.360 --> 0:44:34.880 I can't get the ship out of my head. Like 0:44:34.960 --> 0:44:36.799 it's I don't even like to go nowhere on the 0:44:36.800 --> 0:44:39.799 fourth Bro, y'all Remember when it was fourth of July 0:44:39.880 --> 0:44:42.120 and I started running with y'all? Remember Black Tone and 0:44:42.239 --> 0:44:44.439 called me and said, hey, where are you at. You said, 0:44:44.440 --> 0:44:46.120 I'm at the crib. He said you should probably stay there, 0:44:46.120 --> 0:44:47.640 and he said, don't go nowhere on the fourth. To 0:44:47.719 --> 0:44:49.520 this day, I don't think none of y'all going nowhere 0:44:49.560 --> 0:44:52.239 on the fourth of July. Yeah, but I just don't 0:44:52.239 --> 0:44:54.359 my my spirit be down. I don't know, it's just 0:44:55.080 --> 0:44:57.080 don't get me wrong. I like the Independence Day and 0:44:57.280 --> 0:44:59.000 like the kids and ships. Some of them don't even 0:44:59.040 --> 0:45:01.040 know the back story, they too young or whatever, but 0:45:02.280 --> 0:45:04.680 it's still bothered me to this day. Man. And if 0:45:04.680 --> 0:45:07.200 I come out on the fourth, it's a rare occasion 0:45:07.239 --> 0:45:08.640 that I come out on the four. I just like 0:45:08.719 --> 0:45:11.319 the chill, you know, because you a l A and 0:45:11.320 --> 0:45:14.840 ship and this with us. It could be fireworks and 0:45:14.840 --> 0:45:18.239 then it could be it could be a blammber. It 0:45:18.239 --> 0:45:19.920 could be anything. You know what I'm saying. It could 0:45:19.920 --> 0:45:23.040 be a grenade. Niggas out here be OsO bullshit, So 0:45:23.120 --> 0:45:24.879 it could be. You don't know what the funk going 0:45:24.920 --> 0:45:27.640 on now? Who came in? Sugar Free came in before 0:45:27.680 --> 0:45:30.960 Masbro right, Yeah, Free came in before Mosburg. That's the 0:45:31.000 --> 0:45:34.520 one I want to know. How did y'all discovered sugar free? 0:45:34.560 --> 0:45:37.000 Who discovered sugar free? Man? I'm gonna tell you, Like this, 0:45:37.120 --> 0:45:42.560 Black Tone has sugar free and sugar Free had a 0:45:42.560 --> 0:45:46.080 sugar Free? Was Royal Rock or the Pure Pimp and 0:45:46.120 --> 0:45:50.200 he had, uh man, I can't think of my boy 0:45:50.200 --> 0:45:52.920 that was producing, but it was Tones, uh Tone people 0:45:53.040 --> 0:45:56.719 was producing. He had a different producer and just to 0:45:56.760 --> 0:45:59.880 be real, like Black and Quick wasn't really speaking at 0:45:59.880 --> 0:46:03.520 the time, wasn't seeing eye the eye or whatever. And 0:46:03.560 --> 0:46:05.480 I got that Black. I'm like, man, I like sugar 0:46:05.520 --> 0:46:07.400 Free and he was like yeah, this and this and that. 0:46:07.560 --> 0:46:09.759 So Tone did a couple of songs. Don't even he 0:46:09.880 --> 0:46:13.040 was working on ship and um, you know, like Tone, 0:46:13.080 --> 0:46:15.600 we all from the same neighborhood or whatever. So I 0:46:15.680 --> 0:46:17.680 was going back too quick and I was like, man, Quick, 0:46:17.719 --> 0:46:20.200 you need to hear this ship, this sugar Free ship, 0:46:20.239 --> 0:46:23.120 and I don't. He heard it and he was like, oh, yeah, 0:46:23.120 --> 0:46:24.839 that sound kind of cool. It reminds me of like 0:46:25.160 --> 0:46:27.120 like the Homie, you know, like Earl Ship like forty 0:46:27.960 --> 0:46:29.400 and he was like, yeah, I got that vibe. He 0:46:29.440 --> 0:46:31.520 was like. I was like yeah, it's like, no, you 0:46:31.600 --> 0:46:33.479 really need to hear this naked get down and seen. 0:46:34.320 --> 0:46:37.719 So not trying to take the credit to my own horn, 0:46:37.760 --> 0:46:40.160 but I got the niggas kind of like squash. The 0:46:40.239 --> 0:46:43.200 differences of a settled without Quick end up coming to 0:46:43.239 --> 0:46:47.560 the Black Tone Mom's house, in Compton and start working 0:46:47.560 --> 0:46:49.600 on free Ship. Right there. The niggas got a vibe 0:46:49.600 --> 0:46:51.399 and it just kind of took off ever since. Then 0:46:51.840 --> 0:46:54.840 changed his name to Sugar Free. And I told the 0:46:54.840 --> 0:46:57.520 story before though about to get your money while you bush. 0:46:57.600 --> 0:46:59.560 And I was done in my studio in North Hollywood 0:46:59.560 --> 0:47:03.719 and ship Quick was in my shower. He said, he 0:47:03.760 --> 0:47:05.719 was in my shower and he heard my pipes. You know, 0:47:05.840 --> 0:47:08.240 the pipes when you're trying to off, they go cuck cuckoo. 0:47:08.880 --> 0:47:11.319 And he said, the pipes was going clo clo, cuck 0:47:11.320 --> 0:47:15.880 clu cuck cuck cuck clu cu cu cu cucko. The 0:47:16.000 --> 0:47:17.560 nikka hopped out of my shower. And you know, I 0:47:18.239 --> 0:47:20.680 got showers and a couple of showers in the spot 0:47:20.719 --> 0:47:22.960 or whatever. Sw I'm in my ship just doing me 0:47:23.040 --> 0:47:25.279 or whatever, and I got equipment everywhere so we can 0:47:25.320 --> 0:47:27.680 just get up and rock. Because I kept the North 0:47:27.719 --> 0:47:30.239 Hollywood studio spot some otherfucker's I'll contact where I lay 0:47:30.320 --> 0:47:32.040 my head at with my family and how you know, 0:47:32.440 --> 0:47:34.640 you know that ship, I won't know everybody you know 0:47:35.200 --> 0:47:37.000 and there, so I kept that ship up there like that, 0:47:37.719 --> 0:47:42.200 Quick jump out the shower, bloom boo bloom bloom bloom 0:47:42.360 --> 0:47:46.759 boom bloom bloom bloom bloom bloom bloom boom bloom boom boom. 0:47:47.600 --> 0:47:49.960 And when he started working with that ship, bro I said, 0:47:50.120 --> 0:47:52.480 God damn almost funked up now because I told quick. 0:47:52.520 --> 0:47:55.040 I was like, nigga, don't get that ship to nobody. 0:47:55.200 --> 0:47:57.120 That's your new ship. You're back. You know, this is 0:47:57.120 --> 0:48:00.760 the new you're back on. And he was just rocking 0:48:00.760 --> 0:48:02.480 with you know, quicker, go for a beat. You here 0:48:02.520 --> 0:48:05.759 that my fucking rocket for forty eight dollars straight like, 0:48:05.840 --> 0:48:08.080 and then again I'm just bobbing my head to it 0:48:08.200 --> 0:48:12.319 like this ship. It's hard like this the ship. So 0:48:12.440 --> 0:48:16.640 the nigger free came over and he said, some ship 0:48:16.800 --> 0:48:19.799 a couple of lines, take times out of pimp you 0:48:19.800 --> 0:48:23.360 a house and you still won't know you want overuse. 0:48:23.480 --> 0:48:26.560 But man, this nigga starts saying this ship me and 0:48:26.640 --> 0:48:29.480 quickly like that at each other, like hell no, this 0:48:29.600 --> 0:48:33.759 this niked beat like to this day, right off the 0:48:33.880 --> 0:48:37.360 record in the club today it's still goes off like 0:48:37.480 --> 0:48:42.800 it's like it's back in the nineties. Yep, it still 0:48:42.880 --> 0:48:46.239 goes off. So y'all got all this stuff going on, man, 0:48:46.400 --> 0:48:48.319 And and that that, and I think that's a big 0:48:48.360 --> 0:48:52.440 thing A lot of fans want to know. And I say, 0:48:52.520 --> 0:48:54.520 week as I was around doing them times, we could 0:48:54.520 --> 0:48:56.640 have had one of the most powerful cruise of all 0:48:56.680 --> 0:48:59.320 the time was everybody was on dog. Hell yeah, we 0:48:59.400 --> 0:49:01.200 still can. And all ninas had to do is put 0:49:01.239 --> 0:49:04.200 their differences to the side and just power up and 0:49:04.239 --> 0:49:06.320 just do the ship like it's easy to do ship 0:49:06.360 --> 0:49:08.319 when you're doing it with a crew and you ain't 0:49:08.360 --> 0:49:10.400 got a late three verses on your song, you know 0:49:10.440 --> 0:49:11.960 what I'm saying, you recording on him? You know this 0:49:12.000 --> 0:49:14.680 ship Still if I got to do three verses, I 0:49:14.719 --> 0:49:16.640 got to sit there and write three verses to a song. 0:49:17.040 --> 0:49:18.560 But if I'm doing a song like I put you 0:49:18.600 --> 0:49:21.279 on my album, I'm gonna do the first verse, Big 0:49:21.320 --> 0:49:23.799 still gonna do the second one, and Free or Quick 0:49:23.880 --> 0:49:25.319 might do to you know what I'm saying, the second 0:49:25.320 --> 0:49:27.600 to none and AMG might come and do this and 0:49:27.600 --> 0:49:29.600 it makes the ship easier. And then like I said, 0:49:29.640 --> 0:49:32.480 we get the exchange ideas and bounce it off of 0:49:32.640 --> 0:49:35.680 each other and ship like we always do. Because at 0:49:35.680 --> 0:49:38.560 one time, I know, at one time Quick was doing 0:49:38.560 --> 0:49:40.920 some stuff with death Row because he had this situation 0:49:40.960 --> 0:49:44.719 with Priority Records. Profile. Yeah, it was a profile. Yeah, 0:49:44.719 --> 0:49:46.399 he was a profile, and I think he was making 0:49:46.400 --> 0:49:49.640 a transition from profile to airs to something like that, 0:49:50.320 --> 0:49:53.080 and they weren't letting him release no music. Yeah, it 0:49:53.160 --> 0:49:54.840 was something going on. I ain't gonna sit in here 0:49:54.880 --> 0:49:56.480 in a line about it. I don't remember exactly what 0:49:56.520 --> 0:49:58.880 was going on, but it was a transition between profile 0:49:58.920 --> 0:50:01.120 and then ARISTI with Claude Davis. He was, you know, 0:50:01.719 --> 0:50:03.520 because I know what I was gonna ask about this. 0:50:03.600 --> 0:50:05.040 He was doing a lot of stuff with death Row 0:50:05.080 --> 0:50:07.440 at that time. For sure, he was doing some stuff 0:50:07.440 --> 0:50:11.359 with death Row. And I know we speak on it, 0:50:11.560 --> 0:50:13.560 or we cannot speak on it, but you know, this 0:50:13.880 --> 0:50:15.719 was the Gangster Chronicles. We got to ask about it 0:50:16.680 --> 0:50:18.560 at one time. And I ain't gonna say what it 0:50:18.600 --> 0:50:21.880 was behind everything, but one time y'all wound up outside 0:50:21.920 --> 0:50:25.040 the gates of death Row Records, and it was because 0:50:25.040 --> 0:50:28.000 of you that didn't go down. You saw somebody knew 0:50:28.040 --> 0:50:30.919 you and they was like craw with the hill going on, 0:50:31.880 --> 0:50:34.160 and y'all was cool. But she was the reason why 0:50:34.200 --> 0:50:36.960 it didn't really go as bad as it could have. 0:50:37.719 --> 0:50:39.840 I'm gonna say part of the reason why But you know, 0:50:39.920 --> 0:50:41.719 when we went up there, man, it was just a 0:50:41.760 --> 0:50:45.520 lot of a lot of fucking like tempers was flaring 0:50:46.560 --> 0:50:48.880 and and honestly, man, we went up there and it 0:50:49.040 --> 0:50:52.279 was like it was one of those things to where 0:50:52.520 --> 0:50:55.040 like if it if it would have been like a 0:50:55.080 --> 0:50:57.960 car backfiring or anything like a nigga would have shot 0:50:57.960 --> 0:51:01.240 of firework off the ship that went real left Norman. 0:51:01.360 --> 0:51:03.480 She could have went bad home because Niggas was up 0:51:03.520 --> 0:51:06.520 there strapped up. Niggas is up there. And then we 0:51:06.560 --> 0:51:08.399 found out later though I heard I don't know if 0:51:08.400 --> 0:51:11.239 that's true, but some niggas is on the roof, you 0:51:11.280 --> 0:51:13.960 know what I'm saying. Else So we was on the 0:51:13.960 --> 0:51:17.760 outside of the gate, you know, black Tone for sure. 0:51:18.200 --> 0:51:19.920 A couple of the homies. I don't even want to 0:51:19.920 --> 0:51:23.040 get on, you know if they But we was out 0:51:23.080 --> 0:51:25.719 there with the with the hoovers with the groove. The 0:51:25.760 --> 0:51:28.160 groove was with us on our side, and then we 0:51:28.160 --> 0:51:32.839 was looking on the other side of the gate and 0:51:32.880 --> 0:51:34.759 it was some of the homies too. So when the 0:51:34.800 --> 0:51:37.399 homies see me, he was like, man, what's up? Man? 0:51:37.440 --> 0:51:39.279 He said, Man, I'm up here and I don't even 0:51:39.320 --> 0:51:41.279 know what the fun going on. They just called me 0:51:41.680 --> 0:51:43.799 and I said, yeah, Ship, we just got the call 0:51:43.920 --> 0:51:45.279 to like, you know what I'm saying. You know, wh 0:51:45.320 --> 0:51:47.920 niggas get that call. So we're like we're there and 0:51:47.960 --> 0:51:52.120 ship and um man, dude, Like I don't know. It 0:51:52.200 --> 0:51:54.600 was just one of the things to like, like, bro, 0:51:54.719 --> 0:51:57.920 we we're the same type of niggas, you know what 0:51:57.920 --> 0:52:01.600 I'm saying, So we're not gonna be pressed. We're not 0:52:01.600 --> 0:52:03.960 trying to press, but we're the same type of motherfucker. 0:52:04.080 --> 0:52:06.840 So we wanted to see what's happening, Like what's good 0:52:07.680 --> 0:52:10.560 is the niggas Do we have to squabble up? Because 0:52:10.560 --> 0:52:12.239 I'm looking for the nigg of my size, you know, 0:52:12.320 --> 0:52:14.280 I'm I'm there. I'm probably like one of the shortest 0:52:14.320 --> 0:52:17.319 niggas there. I'm like, okay, I'm gonna get down with him. 0:52:17.440 --> 0:52:21.120 I remember one of the homies from the Groove, uh, 0:52:21.160 --> 0:52:22.920 I think his name was Boom. He wanted to get 0:52:22.960 --> 0:52:26.160 down with Bounchy because then nigga about the same size. 0:52:26.160 --> 0:52:27.839 And I just like how the ship was going far 0:52:27.880 --> 0:52:30.160 as that aspect of it, Like it wasn't know, like, oh, 0:52:30.200 --> 0:52:33.400 I'm looking for the weakest link or I'm trying to 0:52:33.440 --> 0:52:36.080 pick on the little with nigger type of ship and 0:52:36.200 --> 0:52:39.360 and uh niggas had you know, strapped up ship and 0:52:39.400 --> 0:52:41.480 they and they waste bands and they. I mean, it 0:52:42.000 --> 0:52:44.759 could have got crazy, norm But Nigga is just really 0:52:44.800 --> 0:52:48.239 kind of knew, like, Okay, you you're working with some 0:52:48.239 --> 0:52:50.600 real niggas. They know we're some real niggas, and we're 0:52:50.600 --> 0:52:52.279 gonna let this ship. We're gonna figure this ship out 0:52:52.320 --> 0:52:57.120 and straightening out. And we end up getting that shipped straight, bro. 0:52:57.239 --> 0:52:59.640 But it could have went left it. That was. That 0:52:59.680 --> 0:53:02.400 was a real story. Like people talking about the ship online, 0:53:02.440 --> 0:53:04.120 but it was a real story. Like it was a 0:53:04.120 --> 0:53:06.040 real story. And you know, we ain't gotta mention the 0:53:06.120 --> 0:53:08.719 whole bunch of people's names and stuff like that, but 0:53:08.920 --> 0:53:10.839 I knew it could have went down. That was. That 0:53:10.920 --> 0:53:13.960 was a scary time. Oh yeah, for sure. And I'm 0:53:13.960 --> 0:53:16.360 talking about broad daylight man. And they were saying that 0:53:16.440 --> 0:53:19.920 the police was driving by and then motherfucker' wouldn't even stopped. 0:53:19.920 --> 0:53:21.719 They were scared, like they looked at the ship. It 0:53:21.800 --> 0:53:24.400 was like so it was just a big It was 0:53:24.440 --> 0:53:25.839 all out in the middle of the street like that. 0:53:25.920 --> 0:53:28.200 It was by the gates, you know, Wilshire it was 0:53:28.239 --> 0:53:30.279 by the gate. You know what the old death Row 0:53:30.320 --> 0:53:32.440 ship used to be. Yeah, because we used to go 0:53:32.520 --> 0:53:34.799 to death Row. Like Nigga's talk all the death Row ship. 0:53:34.840 --> 0:53:36.839 But if he wasn't going to the to the death 0:53:36.920 --> 0:53:39.080 Row that was on the train tracks that I think 0:53:39.080 --> 0:53:41.920 that was a Canamn or whatever studio. That was the 0:53:41.960 --> 0:53:44.320 Red Road. We haven't been all up through the motherfucker, 0:53:44.320 --> 0:53:46.480 you know what I'm saying. So and Nigga's weren't doing 0:53:46.480 --> 0:53:49.279 that back then. They wasn't really doing the death Row ship. Yeah, 0:53:49.360 --> 0:53:53.319 not know for the record, Tony should did it make peace? 0:53:53.360 --> 0:53:56.239 Eventually it was all good. Oh yeah, for sure, it 0:53:56.280 --> 0:53:57.840 was all good. And I'm gonna say this bro, And 0:53:57.920 --> 0:54:00.680 I never really said this ship on camera, But sug 0:54:00.840 --> 0:54:03.120 Is is a cool nigga bro. Like he one thing 0:54:03.200 --> 0:54:06.359 about ship. He will go straight in your situation out. 0:54:06.520 --> 0:54:08.880 He will go figure out what's going on. A good nigga. 0:54:09.600 --> 0:54:12.279 And like always, niggas used to be like hey man 0:54:12.320 --> 0:54:14.160 called fat Boy fat Boy, that's what you know, the 0:54:14.160 --> 0:54:16.480 little nickname, or niggas before they called him Simon or 0:54:16.520 --> 0:54:19.080 whatever because Simon said to do something that niggas to 0:54:19.120 --> 0:54:21.719 do it or whatever. But shug was always a cool 0:54:21.760 --> 0:54:24.400 like me and Shugar always had the best relationship because 0:54:24.440 --> 0:54:26.680 he big old nigg and he always said, what's up, littlenigga, 0:54:26.760 --> 0:54:28.359 Like like we was at the gate when the ship 0:54:28.400 --> 0:54:29.799 was about to go down. The nigga came out the 0:54:29.800 --> 0:54:32.000 gate that came to me and you know, tap me 0:54:32.000 --> 0:54:33.640 on the starting like I guess he was checking to 0:54:33.680 --> 0:54:36.080 see what kind of strapping or whatever. But what's up, 0:54:36.120 --> 0:54:38.359 little nigga? I was like, what, man, what's the going on? 0:54:38.360 --> 0:54:40.120 If you wis got all this ship going on from 0:54:40.160 --> 0:54:43.359 the same you know niggas homies and ship you know so, 0:54:43.800 --> 0:54:46.000 but he always been a good nigga. Now the thing 0:54:46.239 --> 0:54:49.440 is to me, just my this is just my opinion. Normal. 0:54:50.280 --> 0:54:53.600 If you borrow something from shig if you asking Ship 0:54:53.719 --> 0:54:55.720 for money, are you trying to come up on Shigar 0:54:55.760 --> 0:54:57.759 Are you trying to get it to me? If you 0:54:58.160 --> 0:55:01.000 asking for something, that that's when the ship get a 0:55:01.040 --> 0:55:03.640 little bit tricky, because Sugar is the type of saying, Hey, 0:55:03.680 --> 0:55:05.480 I'm gonna get you, I'm gonna put you in the studio, 0:55:06.120 --> 0:55:07.680 or I'm gonna give you. You know, you need to 0:55:08.000 --> 0:55:10.600 you know, Ship, you need to go do this and 0:55:10.640 --> 0:55:13.400 this and that that might slide it to you. But 0:55:13.440 --> 0:55:16.600 the first he wanted his bread back, and the first 0:55:16.600 --> 0:55:19.399 time he called you and he said, hey, we're doing 0:55:19.400 --> 0:55:23.080 this uh Oprah Winfrey show and you need to come perform. 0:55:23.120 --> 0:55:25.959 Oh man, I'm I'm down in Uh my car ain't 0:55:26.000 --> 0:55:28.280 working and this and that all right? All right, blood, 0:55:31.400 --> 0:55:33.080 when you get up there again, you might get the 0:55:33.120 --> 0:55:37.080 ship slapped out of you might. Yeah, but I'm just saying, 0:55:37.120 --> 0:55:38.880 you're making the deal with the think of that. Ain't 0:55:39.040 --> 0:55:41.200 fucking around of playing those games, you know what I'm saying, 0:55:41.239 --> 0:55:43.000 So you gotta definitely know what the deal is you're 0:55:43.000 --> 0:55:48.759 dealing with. Yeah, And that's just and I ain't necessarily 0:55:48.760 --> 0:55:50.640 saying borrow money, but I'm just saying, if you ask 0:55:50.760 --> 0:55:54.040 him for something and you yeah, he's gonna deliver, so 0:55:54.080 --> 0:55:56.160 he expects the same in return. Bro. And that's the 0:55:56.160 --> 0:55:59.000 only thing I've seen with that's just once again my 0:55:59.080 --> 0:56:01.239 assessment of it and ship. You know, I think that's 0:56:01.280 --> 0:56:03.800 most people's assessment from what I hear, because I'm hearing 0:56:03.800 --> 0:56:06.160 that anybody that did have a problem with Sugar, when 0:56:06.160 --> 0:56:08.719 you check the back story, they don't got money from him, 0:56:08.760 --> 0:56:11.080 they don't try to take advantage of them somehow, and 0:56:11.080 --> 0:56:13.200 he just wasn't going for oh not at all. And 0:56:13.200 --> 0:56:14.799 to be honest with you, the way the music in 0:56:14.880 --> 0:56:16.960 the three is designed, you need a sugar night and 0:56:17.080 --> 0:56:19.319 you need a Tony laying around. Yeah, And I want 0:56:19.320 --> 0:56:21.480 to touch on Black Tone a little bit because Tone 0:56:21.480 --> 0:56:23.839 don't never really get the credit he deserved as far 0:56:23.880 --> 0:56:26.640 as being an executive because at one time he had 0:56:26.719 --> 0:56:29.360 had his label on the streets. Hell yeah, and no 0:56:29.520 --> 0:56:31.799 I ain't. Once again, I'm doing the interview, but bro, 0:56:31.880 --> 0:56:34.920 I'm not too my own horn. But Tone was like 0:56:35.040 --> 0:56:37.000 more of a dude that was getting He had his 0:56:37.040 --> 0:56:40.040 own businesses in the eighties, Bro, like the car shops 0:56:40.040 --> 0:56:42.640 and all this ship. Tone do business like. He was 0:56:42.680 --> 0:56:46.400 a businessman in the beginning. But the Nigga street you know, 0:56:46.560 --> 0:56:49.000 Tone was like you know ship like they called him 0:56:49.000 --> 0:56:54.480 Osama being lad. That's that's black black hat businesses. He 0:56:54.560 --> 0:56:56.839 wasn't even thinking about the record ship. And I used 0:56:56.840 --> 0:56:58.959 to always tell him he was like raw man, funk 0:56:59.040 --> 0:57:01.120 this music. Man, I don't want to be dealing with 0:57:01.160 --> 0:57:03.400 all these weird you know, don't say everybody he's a 0:57:03.560 --> 0:57:05.480 buster as then you know that man ain't dealing with 0:57:05.520 --> 0:57:07.520 all these buster as, weird niggas and ship like the 0:57:07.640 --> 0:57:10.200 Man the niggas, and I'm like, Black, you got too 0:57:10.320 --> 0:57:12.920 much influence out here on these streets, Homey, you gotta 0:57:13.360 --> 0:57:15.759 do something. And He's like, man Crawf, I don't feel 0:57:15.760 --> 0:57:17.680 like dealing. I'm end up slapping the shoot out. You know. 0:57:17.720 --> 0:57:19.760 I'm blo. I'm gonna slap the shoot out of one 0:57:19.800 --> 0:57:23.040 of you. Keep up playing with me, I said, tone, No, bro, 0:57:23.160 --> 0:57:24.960 And I was the one that norm that I kept. 0:57:24.960 --> 0:57:27.000 I kept. I was in the nigga ear in the 0:57:27.040 --> 0:57:29.000 nigga ear. Well, that's why I'm asking you about the 0:57:29.040 --> 0:57:32.000 crow because for y'all to don't know out there, Craft 0:57:32.080 --> 0:57:34.960 should have been named the Fixer. A lot of situations 0:57:35.000 --> 0:57:38.000 that got resolved, a lot of situations that got fixed 0:57:38.360 --> 0:57:41.360 was him behind the scenes, really convincing somebody not to 0:57:41.400 --> 0:57:43.520 make that next move or to make that next move 0:57:43.800 --> 0:57:45.520 for show Man. And that's just how I am in 0:57:45.640 --> 0:57:48.200 my harbor. I'm I feel like, you know, piece the 0:57:48.240 --> 0:57:50.280 nigga by the ship. But if I can bring peace 0:57:50.400 --> 0:57:53.520 or squat some ship or just some stupid ship, did 0:57:53.560 --> 0:57:55.280 this nigga say something about your mama? No, didn't He 0:57:55.280 --> 0:57:57.280 can say nothing about your mama, knowing that the nigga did. 0:57:57.440 --> 0:57:59.520 I'm just that type of nigga that try to dare 0:57:59.600 --> 0:58:02.800 the ship for it escalate. But I was pushing the line, Black, 0:58:02.840 --> 0:58:04.520 you need to do this, do this. So he ended 0:58:04.600 --> 0:58:07.480 up just getting into the ship. That's how the Sugar 0:58:07.480 --> 0:58:11.200 Free you know, Wallsburg was it there for a time? Man? 0:58:11.360 --> 0:58:16.640 That um Lane Way and death Rog almost got linked 0:58:16.680 --> 0:58:18.760 up in any kind of way. Was there some talks 0:58:18.760 --> 0:58:24.080 to that um man? You know what, I like, like, uh, 0:58:24.360 --> 0:58:26.360 Black and Sugar you should talk, you know what is 0:58:26.400 --> 0:58:29.760 cool whatever? Black and Sugar used to talk. And I 0:58:30.440 --> 0:58:32.640 don't even know if I was I think Black told me. 0:58:32.680 --> 0:58:35.000 I don't even know if I remember the whole story, 0:58:35.040 --> 0:58:36.920 but Black told me I was kind of like one 0:58:36.920 --> 0:58:38.520 of the first ones to kind of get them to 0:58:39.120 --> 0:58:42.760 talk because we heard something. I forgot what should had 0:58:42.800 --> 0:58:44.480 of something? Black and I'm like, man, this should and 0:58:44.480 --> 0:58:45.880 he was like man who and this and this and 0:58:45.920 --> 0:58:48.720 that and knowing that his people stayed on the east 0:58:48.720 --> 0:58:51.120 side or whatever, and the twins and all that. I 0:58:51.160 --> 0:58:53.040 don't know how the ship win, but we always was 0:58:53.040 --> 0:58:54.920 in the mix with each other, and I think they 0:58:55.000 --> 0:58:57.800 used to talk about trying to do something together and 0:58:57.800 --> 0:59:00.040 and you know, like when you deal with two of 0:59:00.120 --> 0:59:03.919 the funders, that's just the juggernauts of the era. They're 0:59:03.920 --> 0:59:07.480 gonna respect each other like gentlemen. You know, real niggas 0:59:07.480 --> 0:59:09.400 moved like gentlemen, and ship don't be don't know all that, 0:59:10.280 --> 0:59:12.200 but I think they always had to think of like 0:59:12.240 --> 0:59:14.480 I'm gonna do my ship over here, this is my empire, 0:59:15.080 --> 0:59:18.000 and should had this empire already, And that's kind of 0:59:18.040 --> 0:59:20.080 how it always been. But I knew it was kind 0:59:20.080 --> 0:59:22.840 of probably some talks are like like should always be 0:59:22.920 --> 0:59:25.640 like man, bt you know, bet blood come over with me, 0:59:25.800 --> 0:59:28.960 understand ship and like, I don't know, but I know 0:59:29.000 --> 0:59:30.640 it was some talks, But I don't know if how 0:59:30.720 --> 0:59:33.200 far that ship was sometimes to the realist king sit 0:59:33.240 --> 0:59:36.360 in the same room, you know, some some sometimes it 0:59:36.480 --> 0:59:38.800 just don't happen like that, man, And I know it 0:59:38.880 --> 0:59:42.280 was a lot of success throughout the years. Man, what's 0:59:42.320 --> 0:59:45.520 the most what's the biggest moment that you remember? Man? 0:59:45.640 --> 0:59:50.520 Just music wise, from the whole crew, what's the biggest moment? Uh? Man, 0:59:50.720 --> 0:59:53.080 one of the biggest moments I could say that was 0:59:53.160 --> 0:59:57.880 like just to me, that was dope. Like it was 0:59:57.920 --> 1:00:00.479 just a moment, man, it was like, God damn this ship. 1:00:00.520 --> 1:00:04.160 It's like live when we did the Summer Jam or 1:00:04.160 --> 1:00:07.040 one of them, I think it was Summer Jam and 1:00:07.080 --> 1:00:09.960 the LDD bars came out. You've seen that footage, the 1:00:09.960 --> 1:00:12.400 old footage over and we was all out and that 1:00:12.600 --> 1:00:15.560 it was just like you looked to the back of 1:00:15.600 --> 1:00:17.960 the crow. You couldn't stop seeing motherfucker's. That's how many 1:00:17.960 --> 1:00:20.560 people was there where it was just waves and waves 1:00:20.600 --> 1:00:24.640 and waves of people. It was just waves and motherfucker's 1:00:24.680 --> 1:00:27.000 And it was like when they came out, they knew 1:00:27.040 --> 1:00:28.840 all of the high Sea Ship, they knew all of 1:00:28.840 --> 1:00:30.520 the Second and None ship, they knew all of the 1:00:30.520 --> 1:00:33.000 a MG ship. Of course, they knew all the quick ship. 1:00:33.440 --> 1:00:36.439 And then they didn't even think that the Nigga would 1:00:36.440 --> 1:00:38.440 bring out eld bars. And when the eld D bars 1:00:38.560 --> 1:00:41.040 came out, it was like, I swear I saw girls 1:00:41.040 --> 1:00:42.880 in the crowd naked. That's what I thought I saw. 1:00:42.880 --> 1:00:47.280 I ain't gonna lie, was throwing their paintings on. Like 1:00:47.320 --> 1:00:48.800 this ship was crazy and it was like one of 1:00:48.840 --> 1:00:51.960 those moments to where and normally you know how I move, man, 1:00:52.000 --> 1:00:53.920 I'd be most of the time I'd be by myself 1:00:54.000 --> 1:00:57.720 or whatever. But I'm always humble and and I really 1:00:57.720 --> 1:01:00.080 feel like it's a blessing and then continue blessed and 1:01:00.200 --> 1:01:02.000 to be in the game like that, you know, to 1:01:02.720 --> 1:01:04.480 make it. I feel like I tell people sometimes it's 1:01:04.480 --> 1:01:07.160 like hitting the lotto, if you hit the lot of 1:01:07.240 --> 1:01:10.040 you and this ship. A lot of motherfucker's dope motherfucker's 1:01:10.080 --> 1:01:12.480 never made it for sure, never made it, Just like 1:01:12.520 --> 1:01:14.840 playing ball. The badest motherfucker's don't make it because the 1:01:14.920 --> 1:01:16.840 niggers probably can't read or they got to get a 1:01:17.240 --> 1:01:18.920 you know, some system that they made those and they've 1:01:18.960 --> 1:01:21.680 gotta have an A plus to be average or whatever, 1:01:22.600 --> 1:01:25.120 which to me don't want. Some people just don't want 1:01:25.120 --> 1:01:27.480 to buy by the bullshit, because whenever you're in music, 1:01:27.480 --> 1:01:30.960 sports there's a lot of bullshit. It is bro and 1:01:31.000 --> 1:01:33.240 to me sometimes I think it's the way to level 1:01:33.280 --> 1:01:34.760 the play and feel like why I got to be 1:01:34.800 --> 1:01:36.480 a scholar. If I know how to shoot this ball 1:01:36.560 --> 1:01:38.880 or I know how to you know, do Hooper write 1:01:38.880 --> 1:01:40.480 this song? I don't need to be getting no straight 1:01:40.520 --> 1:01:42.200 they I don't need to know rocket science to do 1:01:42.280 --> 1:01:43.880 this ship. You know what I mean, I do what 1:01:43.960 --> 1:01:45.920 I do good, and I don't be no fucking dummy 1:01:46.160 --> 1:01:48.080 and let people rip you off and take your money. 1:01:48.080 --> 1:01:50.280 But to me, it was like, okay, I'm not gonna 1:01:50.320 --> 1:01:52.520 let him get this scholarship because he didn't carry this 1:01:52.960 --> 1:01:56.160 particular grade average, you get what I'm saying. But he 1:01:56.280 --> 1:01:58.680 dope as fucked. So now he comes to motherfucker with 1:01:58.760 --> 1:02:02.320 less talent might your white boy, It's like, okay, you 1:02:02.360 --> 1:02:06.000 can get this, you know, because you're you're a scholar 1:02:06.120 --> 1:02:08.760 or a student, but you can't boop like him. But hey, 1:02:09.200 --> 1:02:11.960 it's a spot for you, m So you know I 1:02:11.960 --> 1:02:14.600 should go. Man, Yeah for sure. You know. One of 1:02:14.600 --> 1:02:17.280 the things that we will say about black tone, you know, 1:02:17.520 --> 1:02:20.040 we gotta have the black people always talking about the 1:02:20.080 --> 1:02:23.640 negative that somebody do right, but black tone man, like 1:02:23.680 --> 1:02:26.320 I said, he got me my first check as far 1:02:26.360 --> 1:02:28.240 as my first place. Man, you got me my first 1:02:28.240 --> 1:02:30.160 piece of money, you know, like you know, coming to 1:02:30.280 --> 1:02:32.440 business and everything and taking me on the road and everything. 1:02:32.480 --> 1:02:34.880 And you know what they asked me about Noir, the 1:02:34.920 --> 1:02:37.120 Malibu is most wonted? Is that big steal in there 1:02:37.200 --> 1:02:38.760 when you was on the on the movie. Yeah you 1:02:38.800 --> 1:02:43.160 got me, Yeah, I went up there and Um, I 1:02:43.240 --> 1:02:45.080 never will forget that day. I went up there with 1:02:45.160 --> 1:02:47.959 you on some hanging out stuff. You was like norm 1:02:48.320 --> 1:02:51.200 with audition, and that's when they had to let's go 1:02:51.240 --> 1:02:54.000 in the room kind of battling each other. Yeah, we 1:02:54.080 --> 1:02:55.439 got to go in there, and I wanted to wash 1:02:55.560 --> 1:02:58.080 Chenie's ass, you know, because Chene was in there. He 1:02:58.120 --> 1:03:00.880 was talking about some being and I don't even remember 1:03:01.000 --> 1:03:05.360 Cheney being there shout out, that's my boy. Many was 1:03:05.440 --> 1:03:08.040 up there, man, you know, you know, thank god I 1:03:08.040 --> 1:03:09.800 wound up getting that feature. You know what I mean, 1:03:10.480 --> 1:03:12.040 you're in that moment. That was a nice look check 1:03:12.040 --> 1:03:14.240 at text that we're still getting to this day. Yeah, 1:03:14.280 --> 1:03:17.800 we still get that check, you know, we still get them. Yeah, 1:03:17.960 --> 1:03:19.840 to this day, man, we get them checks. Man. It 1:03:19.920 --> 1:03:21.880 was a bunch of cats up there that day. That's 1:03:21.880 --> 1:03:24.120 how I am. Man. I if I can make some bread, 1:03:24.160 --> 1:03:26.160 I'm a break bread with tommies. That's how I'd be, like, 1:03:27.320 --> 1:03:30.960 you know, yeah, for sure, man, And I want to 1:03:30.960 --> 1:03:34.720 go back because I think we got to talk about this. Man. 1:03:35.680 --> 1:03:37.720 Y'all linked up at the Rodium. That's for your first 1:03:37.720 --> 1:03:41.120 man's Yeah, when did y'all decide? When did y'all start 1:03:41.200 --> 1:03:43.959 making records together. Man, I'm gonna be honest. When I've 1:03:43.960 --> 1:03:47.760 seen Tony like start scratching and mixing, and he knew 1:03:47.760 --> 1:03:49.600 a ship because when you look at tone, it's like 1:03:49.640 --> 1:03:52.480 back especially back then, I'm like, I don't know if 1:03:52.480 --> 1:03:55.960 this motherfucking no, you know, like, do he really like 1:03:56.040 --> 1:03:57.800 you know how like we was young, you know, you're 1:03:57.840 --> 1:04:00.400 sizing my fuck up, just like this ship with the 1:04:00.400 --> 1:04:02.480 street ship, like you you can see how the nigga 1:04:02.520 --> 1:04:05.080 walk or how you move or how you how you act, 1:04:05.160 --> 1:04:07.560 Like Okay, this is this is real one rka cool. 1:04:07.640 --> 1:04:10.320 This ain't even affiliate like kind of like that. So 1:04:10.360 --> 1:04:12.520 I kind of just looked at him and I was like, 1:04:12.720 --> 1:04:15.120 I don't know if if I don't know if he 1:04:15.200 --> 1:04:17.720 really you know, got it, you know what I'm saying. 1:04:17.760 --> 1:04:20.600 So the motherfucker start mixing and doing this little shit. 1:04:20.680 --> 1:04:22.480 I'm like, God damn, this is motherfucking though. And he 1:04:22.520 --> 1:04:24.920 knew how to blend records and he was scratching and 1:04:24.960 --> 1:04:27.080 ship and I'm like, oh, hell yeah, I'm gonna funk 1:04:27.080 --> 1:04:29.400 with him. And we just started recording. Man, and I 1:04:29.480 --> 1:04:33.240 went to Womanton went to his house, and it just 1:04:33.280 --> 1:04:35.160 took it from there. Man, we just kind of build 1:04:35.160 --> 1:04:38.640 a relationship. Yeah, So he was from a real because 1:04:38.680 --> 1:04:41.560 at that time Womanton was women want to be played with, 1:04:42.600 --> 1:04:47.880 you know women. So for Shure, like we was out 1:04:47.920 --> 1:04:51.280 there doing ship and we just took it from there. Bro. 1:04:51.320 --> 1:04:54.800 It was like he impressed me, bro, like with some 1:04:54.880 --> 1:04:56.919 of his mixing skills and like the ship he could 1:04:56.960 --> 1:04:59.680 do with scratching this and that, and then his producing 1:04:59.720 --> 1:05:02.120 and he just had a knowledge of ready to get 1:05:02.160 --> 1:05:05.760 all of like the like the oldie type of hits 1:05:05.760 --> 1:05:07.360 and ship. And I was kind of like the first 1:05:07.400 --> 1:05:09.320 one that because my thing is like I like to 1:05:09.360 --> 1:05:11.640 paint pictures and tell stories and ship like that. So 1:05:12.160 --> 1:05:14.640 he was the type that will find this like Okay, 1:05:14.720 --> 1:05:16.480 let's just do this or this and this will go 1:05:16.480 --> 1:05:19.240 good with that and just putting ship together on the 1:05:19.280 --> 1:05:21.440 mix tapes. And also like when that motherfucker was doing 1:05:21.440 --> 1:05:24.959 the mix tapes, that's when you know he got ice cube. 1:05:25.000 --> 1:05:29.240 I think to get down on one um dre easy, 1:05:29.760 --> 1:05:33.280 the one we do easy e uh. Like man, everybody 1:05:33.320 --> 1:05:35.120 like you said that was coming here looking for vinyl 1:05:35.160 --> 1:05:41.600 and ship like that. You know what crazy thing about 1:05:41.640 --> 1:05:44.760 that Crows is you always had a really really huge 1:05:45.160 --> 1:05:48.080 Mexican audience. Yeah, you know, like Parks said, it wouldn't 1:05:48.080 --> 1:05:50.000 be La without the Mexican So shut out to all 1:05:50.000 --> 1:05:53.360 the Mexican armies. This out there doing a thing, and 1:05:53.400 --> 1:05:55.600 I think something that was real genes that you did. 1:05:55.680 --> 1:05:58.840 You know Mexicans love the oldies. Yeah, they loved most 1:05:59.280 --> 1:06:03.440 cats loved. Yeah, what made you all decide the sample? 1:06:03.480 --> 1:06:07.080 I'm not your puppet man? Who who was that man? 1:06:07.160 --> 1:06:09.240 I think we started off doing that ship on the 1:06:09.280 --> 1:06:12.400 mix tape, and the reaction of the response that we 1:06:12.440 --> 1:06:15.560 got from that ship, from the mixtape version of it, 1:06:15.560 --> 1:06:17.480 it was like it was automatic. It was like we 1:06:17.600 --> 1:06:19.600 got to do this on the recording and go in 1:06:19.640 --> 1:06:22.280 the studio and do it professionally. And we did it 1:06:22.360 --> 1:06:28.040 at uh uh Audio Achievements. I think it was Donovan's student. 1:06:29.320 --> 1:06:33.040 We did n w A was doing and they had 1:06:33.080 --> 1:06:35.160 the top notchi equipment and I got to look at 1:06:35.200 --> 1:06:38.400 some of Dr Dre ship and seeing that Dre, I've 1:06:38.400 --> 1:06:41.080 seen what you was doing, Dre years ago. This nigger 1:06:41.160 --> 1:06:43.680 had and I could tell it now because I know 1:06:43.800 --> 1:06:46.720 drein even tripping away. He had an eight oh eight 1:06:46.920 --> 1:06:49.480 that was meetied up and if people don't understand, you 1:06:49.480 --> 1:06:51.480 don't understand, don't even think about it. But the mid 1:06:51.600 --> 1:06:54.640 cable to a fucking eight oh eight, and I'm like, this, 1:06:54.720 --> 1:06:56.880 dude is not playing like every time that eight oh 1:06:56.920 --> 1:06:59.720 eight hit, it's coming right out the machine. It was fresh. 1:06:59.760 --> 1:07:02.040 I'm that's how they should be sounded so cracking. But 1:07:02.520 --> 1:07:05.600 we went in there to record I'm Not Your Puppet 1:07:05.640 --> 1:07:07.760 and came out with that sound. That's why I sound 1:07:07.800 --> 1:07:10.240 like sonically clear and ship like that. It was like 1:07:11.000 --> 1:07:13.120 one of those records that that everybody was like, man, 1:07:13.120 --> 1:07:14.760 when it's coming out. We had to do it, so 1:07:16.240 --> 1:07:20.880 shot the video at the Rhodium. It was just automatic 1:07:21.680 --> 1:07:23.960 as dope. Dog. Do you think that's your biggest record 1:07:24.280 --> 1:07:27.080 to date? I think it is, bro, I really think 1:07:27.120 --> 1:07:29.720 it is. I really think that's, like, you know, one 1:07:29.760 --> 1:07:32.880 of the biggest records today that that I did. And 1:07:32.920 --> 1:07:34.640 just you know, all the features that we did on 1:07:34.680 --> 1:07:38.000 each other ship, Like on quick album we got Medley 1:07:38.040 --> 1:07:40.040 for a v like Snoop Me and Snoop was on 1:07:40.120 --> 1:07:42.400 the air and g like all of us the older 1:07:42.440 --> 1:07:44.760 bars like them records like people don't hardly know about. 1:07:44.840 --> 1:07:47.480 But I was just thinking about that the other day, 1:07:47.520 --> 1:07:50.280 like all the features that we did with different motherfucker's. Man, 1:07:50.320 --> 1:07:52.680 it's like we got so much ship. Bro, Yeah, we 1:07:52.760 --> 1:07:55.680 we definitely. Man, Well, I'm gonna do everybody. I'm gonna 1:07:55.720 --> 1:07:58.680 go outside. I'm gonna go over Cross House one day 1:07:58.680 --> 1:08:00.480 and I'm gonna go in to vote y'all and I'm 1:08:00.520 --> 1:08:02.360 gonna steal all them songs he got that he don't 1:08:02.400 --> 1:08:04.240 want nobody to hear, because I'm gonna tell y'all he 1:08:04.320 --> 1:08:07.680 got some heaters in there. Man, for sure, Are we 1:08:07.760 --> 1:08:11.000 ever go get any more high seat music? Man? You 1:08:11.040 --> 1:08:13.640 know what I really be feeling like? You know when 1:08:13.640 --> 1:08:15.240 I get that inch norm you know how we are 1:08:15.240 --> 1:08:18.799 we gyminizing ship, get that itch man and that ship 1:08:18.840 --> 1:08:22.479 turned on and you get that creative juice, you just might. Man, 1:08:23.040 --> 1:08:25.439 that's one thing about You're not gonna put a record 1:08:25.439 --> 1:08:27.120 out before his time. And you just don't go on 1:08:27.160 --> 1:08:28.880 the studio for the sake of going to the studio. 1:08:28.920 --> 1:08:31.280 Hell no, because I ain't pressed like that. Like to me, 1:08:31.280 --> 1:08:33.240 when you're pressing and you're trying to do this, and 1:08:33.320 --> 1:08:36.200 you gimmicky and you want to do I gotta do this, 1:08:36.280 --> 1:08:39.040 or I gotta do that or or motherfucker's that try 1:08:39.120 --> 1:08:42.360 to bait motherfucker's into a battle and ship. I've never 1:08:42.400 --> 1:08:44.679 been that type of motherfucking Oh did he say something 1:08:44.680 --> 1:08:46.680 about me? Or did he? Was he dissing me? I 1:08:46.720 --> 1:08:49.599 gotta diss him, like all that old bullshit to me. 1:08:50.240 --> 1:08:51.880 And if that's how you live, don't get me wrong, 1:08:51.960 --> 1:08:55.080 that's more power to you. But I don't look around 1:08:55.080 --> 1:08:56.880 like that. I do it when that ship feel good 1:08:56.880 --> 1:08:59.400 and it feels natural, like let me get in here 1:08:59.400 --> 1:09:02.760 and this is it I feel like doing at the time. Yeah, 1:09:02.840 --> 1:09:05.479 for real, man, And you've always been consistent with that too, 1:09:06.040 --> 1:09:08.080 always been consistent with that. I remember when I came 1:09:08.120 --> 1:09:11.000 with my first album and I like you. He was like, Norman, 1:09:11.040 --> 1:09:13.240 you've got one got one time to put your first record. 1:09:13.360 --> 1:09:14.720 You need to do this and that over again. I 1:09:14.760 --> 1:09:17.120 was mad, but I went back and you did, man, 1:09:17.160 --> 1:09:19.960 and I appreciate you for that. And I remember that 1:09:19.960 --> 1:09:22.559 ship like yesterday you called me, was like, I got 1:09:22.560 --> 1:09:25.599 ten songs, I'm ready. I'm like, norm, hold on, you're 1:09:25.600 --> 1:09:29.160 gonna do ten songs three times before you're gonna do 1:09:29.200 --> 1:09:31.439 ten songs five times. You're gonna have fifty of the 1:09:31.560 --> 1:09:33.840 motherfucker's before and then you called me back. Remember what 1:09:33.880 --> 1:09:35.560 you said? He was like, yeah, crawf right, because I 1:09:35.560 --> 1:09:37.640 don't even like that other ship. I did something. I'm like, 1:09:37.760 --> 1:09:39.559 you should hear this new ship, and I'm like, damn, 1:09:39.560 --> 1:09:42.320 nor got some ship. Yeah I did, man. You know what, 1:09:42.479 --> 1:09:45.599 that's one of my biggest regrets. Dogs. I think when 1:09:45.600 --> 1:09:49.639 you're younger, you're getting the race for time, especially when 1:09:49.640 --> 1:09:52.160 you start hitting that twenty nine thirty year old mark. 1:09:53.280 --> 1:09:54.760 You get this kind of like thinking that I need 1:09:54.800 --> 1:09:56.439 to put this out before I get you old, because 1:09:56.479 --> 1:09:59.120 you know hip hop, man, it's a young man's game. 1:09:59.680 --> 1:10:01.920 It is. But now you've got brothers like Hole he 1:10:02.040 --> 1:10:05.240 fifty something, he's still out there tearing down microphone. You 1:10:05.360 --> 1:10:07.920 got the Whoop Tang class. They're still putting up music 1:10:08.240 --> 1:10:09.920 and you know some of them acting. I think it 1:10:10.200 --> 1:10:12.800 comes to a thing. Man, when you get older, you 1:10:12.840 --> 1:10:16.400 start expressing your creativity in different ways that because you 1:10:16.600 --> 1:10:19.360 the growth. Yeah, it's growth. It's like it's like I 1:10:19.400 --> 1:10:21.559 don't have no desire now to put out no records 1:10:21.680 --> 1:10:23.600 or nothing like that. Dude, I think this is my 1:10:23.720 --> 1:10:26.719 thing right now, like creating content. No, that's and you 1:10:26.720 --> 1:10:29.040 you're smashing this ship. No, I'm like, I tell everybody, 1:10:29.040 --> 1:10:31.439 man still got this ship cracking. But to me, no, 1:10:31.680 --> 1:10:33.120 let me let me just say this, or I ask 1:10:33.160 --> 1:10:38.519 you a question, like I understand why people retire in sports. 1:10:38.520 --> 1:10:40.880 So they want them to retire because your reflex is 1:10:41.400 --> 1:10:45.599 your quick twitch muscles and ship like that. You can lose, 1:10:45.960 --> 1:10:48.640 you know, you lose mobility, you get injured. You can 1:10:48.680 --> 1:10:53.360 fund yourself up in the in the music game, or 1:10:53.200 --> 1:10:57.040 or or the hip hop game, or any genre of music. Like, 1:10:57.160 --> 1:11:00.880 why do we have to retire because season now I'm 1:11:00.880 --> 1:11:04.000 gonna even say, oh that we veterans. My throat didn't 1:11:04.040 --> 1:11:07.200 get like, I still I speak well. I feel like 1:11:07.280 --> 1:11:11.080 I'm intell intelligent enough to make songs. I can do this. 1:11:11.240 --> 1:11:13.840 I can still create. So I ain't gotta go out 1:11:13.880 --> 1:11:16.760 here and jump or slam dunk or run no motherfucking 1:11:17.240 --> 1:11:20.360 uh for two in the forty or do whatever the 1:11:20.400 --> 1:11:22.200 fuck you know what I'm saying. So why do they 1:11:22.200 --> 1:11:24.400 put this label on us? It's hip hop? Like we 1:11:24.520 --> 1:11:26.519 got to do that. I know the attention span and 1:11:26.560 --> 1:11:29.000 the lifespan of some of the hip hop ship is short, 1:11:29.439 --> 1:11:33.559 but you look at that bands like the Stones or 1:11:33.680 --> 1:11:39.960 Chicago and motherfucker's love them. Bro, even answer it for 1:11:40.040 --> 1:11:42.599 you Cross right now. You know what I believe it is, Bro. 1:11:42.760 --> 1:11:45.519 I think it's something that within our people, our culture, right, 1:11:46.720 --> 1:11:50.439 Black people don't respect um. I'm trying to find the 1:11:50.560 --> 1:11:53.680 right word. They don't respect maturity almost because if you 1:11:53.720 --> 1:11:56.640 look at the average brother today that's online. You know, 1:11:56.720 --> 1:12:01.120 some of these guys online, these dudes anywhere from forty 1:12:01.160 --> 1:12:04.320 five years old acting like little kids. They acting like 1:12:04.439 --> 1:12:09.160 the nineteen eighteen year olds, um and and I almost 1:12:09.200 --> 1:12:12.320 think that's an insult to the younger generation because some 1:12:12.439 --> 1:12:15.280 of these people is more immature than my five year 1:12:15.280 --> 1:12:17.400 old niece. You know what I'm saying. They have like 1:12:17.560 --> 1:12:19.720 they act like on the level they almost like borderline. 1:12:19.720 --> 1:12:21.040 If you looked at him, you would say, Man, are 1:12:21.080 --> 1:12:24.120 these people retarded? Because that's just what they do. You've 1:12:24.160 --> 1:12:25.680 got a lot of people and I think us as 1:12:25.720 --> 1:12:27.840 Black people, man had always come back to the Willie 1:12:27.840 --> 1:12:31.439 Link stuff. We hate to see We hate to see 1:12:31.479 --> 1:12:34.400 the next man shine rather than applaud, you know, rather 1:12:34.439 --> 1:12:39.200 than applaud because theoretically, I think the older people get, 1:12:39.600 --> 1:12:42.360 the better they bars get. They've seen more, they've been 1:12:42.400 --> 1:12:45.760 around the world, you know, they've got more experience. So 1:12:45.840 --> 1:12:48.000 I think that's why. Now you can probably hear some 1:12:48.080 --> 1:12:51.080 of jay Z's best music. You hear some of what's 1:12:51.160 --> 1:12:54.080 that kid's name? Being the kid? But he older dude, Man, 1:12:54.120 --> 1:12:56.400 I think he was signed to brock Nation. Man, that 1:12:56.520 --> 1:12:58.559 dude is a beast. Though I can't think of his name. 1:12:58.560 --> 1:13:02.000 He only put out one album. But that dude is 1:13:02.040 --> 1:13:06.320 in his fifties. Man, he row looking sugar free, sugar 1:13:06.360 --> 1:13:10.280 free Damn Nick sugar Freed almost got a resurgence going 1:13:10.320 --> 1:13:13.920 now and sugar free in his fifties and he's nasty. Man. 1:13:13.960 --> 1:13:16.800 To me, it should always be about your music, man, 1:13:18.000 --> 1:13:23.040 you know, change change as that. If he ain't in 1:13:23.040 --> 1:13:25.479 his fifties, he's up there, And I think, man, what 1:13:25.640 --> 1:13:27.439 it is is that you just got to create a 1:13:27.520 --> 1:13:30.360 character like Snoop Dogg is probably the biggest rapper of 1:13:30.360 --> 1:13:34.759 all time brand wise. You know everybody knows Snoopy Snoop 1:13:34.800 --> 1:13:37.720 ain't no Spring Chicken. But he's going forever being able 1:13:37.720 --> 1:13:39.880 to go on stage and make music. I think because 1:13:39.880 --> 1:13:42.479 he's always stayed in character. I think that's all you 1:13:42.520 --> 1:13:44.559 gotta do is just stay in your character. Too short. 1:13:44.920 --> 1:13:46.719 I was listening to too short when I was sixteen 1:13:46.760 --> 1:13:49.040 and seventeen years old, too short still making the same 1:13:49.120 --> 1:13:51.640 music and might wrong to have a hit record on 1:13:51.680 --> 1:13:54.519 yours and short dog is dope, man, it's forty is 1:13:54.560 --> 1:13:57.200 the same way we was on the road with him 1:13:57.200 --> 1:14:00.519 when he was going out man and watching uh forty 1:14:00.680 --> 1:14:03.639 and short man like sing their songs and the whole 1:14:03.760 --> 1:14:07.120 crowd responding no word for word. And then I'm sitting 1:14:07.200 --> 1:14:09.599 up here looking at the forty his features and ship 1:14:09.720 --> 1:14:11.559 like he got all this ship at the time, and 1:14:11.600 --> 1:14:13.720 ship and all that. But then he jumped on the 1:14:13.720 --> 1:14:16.000 ship with I don't funk with you, like all this 1:14:16.120 --> 1:14:20.200 new ship, and it's like he touching both both worlds. 1:14:20.240 --> 1:14:21.719 You know what I'm saying. The same thing was Short 1:14:21.960 --> 1:14:23.400 when he was doing the ship, but you know what 1:14:23.479 --> 1:14:26.479 he was doing, the collaborations and the features and ship 1:14:26.560 --> 1:14:29.960 like people funk with him like just off the rip, bro, 1:14:30.080 --> 1:14:34.040 Like it's crazy how they gravitate towards them dudes. Man, Well, 1:14:34.080 --> 1:14:36.320 I think what's happening now man, that you're getting the 1:14:36.360 --> 1:14:39.400 resurgence because you've got a lot of younger kids, the 1:14:39.520 --> 1:14:44.280 casts in their twenties, five years old, twenty six, They 1:14:44.320 --> 1:14:46.760 grew up listening to that that they grew up. So 1:14:46.760 --> 1:14:48.920 now they've got an opportunity to collab with one of 1:14:48.960 --> 1:14:51.320 their favorite artists. And I think that's how I was going. 1:14:51.439 --> 1:14:54.080 Because Forty Steele got barrows. You can't tell me he 1:14:54.240 --> 1:14:57.320 forty can't wrap no more because he years old or 1:14:57.320 --> 1:15:02.360 whatever's the time. I don't at that ship bro and 1:15:02.360 --> 1:15:06.320 a voice ain't slow down. My throat still good, And 1:15:06.360 --> 1:15:08.920 I think it should be a personal choice, man, because 1:15:09.960 --> 1:15:12.120 I still right wraps for a lot of people. I don't. 1:15:12.200 --> 1:15:14.040 You know. Of course, I can't just put it out 1:15:14.040 --> 1:15:16.200 there and say what else necessarily because you gotta keep 1:15:16.240 --> 1:15:19.080 stuff on the low. But I write a lot of stuff, 1:15:19.080 --> 1:15:23.080 and I'll actually write my dopest stuff. It's like because 1:15:23.120 --> 1:15:26.320 I've been more places of sound, experience more things, and 1:15:26.360 --> 1:15:28.360 I'm talking from a place of what I know versus 1:15:28.439 --> 1:15:30.320 when I was you know, when I was broke, I 1:15:30.360 --> 1:15:33.320 was talking about having money I've never seen. And now 1:15:33.680 --> 1:15:35.479 get a little bit me. You didn't went to Japan 1:15:35.560 --> 1:15:37.360 and ship together. You haven't been on the other side 1:15:37.360 --> 1:15:40.280 of the motherfucking O. For sure, have experienced some things 1:15:40.320 --> 1:15:43.240 that's gonna stay over thein't Japan? You know what I'm saying, 1:15:43.600 --> 1:15:46.760 don't talk about this ship. Nor we don't need to 1:15:46.760 --> 1:15:49.240 talk about dog. Some stuff we don't need to talk about. 1:15:49.240 --> 1:15:52.479 But I know Japan. The thing about Japan, man, is 1:15:52.520 --> 1:15:55.320 they treat you like you a guy over there. We 1:15:55.400 --> 1:15:57.960 went over there, man, they was treating Crawford like Crawford 1:15:58.080 --> 1:16:00.680 was getting treated like a king over there. Crazy and 1:16:00.680 --> 1:16:04.200 they like the second album I did. It was like 1:16:04.280 --> 1:16:06.280 really like one of the big albums over there that 1:16:06.360 --> 1:16:08.960 they funk with, and I appreciate it. I'm ready to 1:16:09.000 --> 1:16:11.680 go back now when you're already bro in China. You 1:16:11.680 --> 1:16:13.760 know China as well. China got some ship too, o 1:16:13.840 --> 1:16:16.320 for sure. But one of the things I'm gonna start doing, Bro, 1:16:16.400 --> 1:16:20.240 we gonna start doing over here digital Soapbox is we 1:16:20.320 --> 1:16:23.120 gotta streaming network coming to twenty four hour music channel 1:16:23.200 --> 1:16:25.879 that's coming out like um, I think we launched in September, 1:16:25.920 --> 1:16:29.000 late September, early October. One of the things we're doing, 1:16:29.040 --> 1:16:31.320 it's gonna be kind of like MTV was, but it's 1:16:31.320 --> 1:16:33.439 gonna be all hip hop, all hip hop and rap. 1:16:34.000 --> 1:16:35.760 You know, we gonna be showing our podcasts on that. 1:16:35.880 --> 1:16:38.320 We got original series we're doing. But one of the 1:16:38.360 --> 1:16:40.519 things that I am bringing back, man, is we gonna 1:16:40.520 --> 1:16:44.479 start shooting music videos to classic classic songs. We actually 1:16:44.479 --> 1:16:46.720 go go get artists, and we got a couple of 1:16:46.760 --> 1:16:50.760 people that's re recording classic albums like, um, we got 1:16:50.800 --> 1:16:54.640 eight He's gonna re record straight Up Menace, you know 1:16:54.720 --> 1:16:57.599 the album. He's gonna record the album. And Uh. One 1:16:57.600 --> 1:17:00.559 of the things we talked about doing was like taking 1:17:00.560 --> 1:17:02.200 a song like growing Up in the Hood that's a 1:17:02.240 --> 1:17:05.920 classic and putting scarface on there and shooting a whole 1:17:05.920 --> 1:17:07.600 new video for it and just bringing it to this 1:17:07.720 --> 1:17:10.479 whole new generation because a classic is gonna always be 1:17:10.520 --> 1:17:12.840 a classic. You don't matter time with this, bro, It's 1:17:12.840 --> 1:17:14.280 gonna always be climates. And one of the things I 1:17:14.320 --> 1:17:16.880 always gonna holid at you about is doing redoing one 1:17:16.880 --> 1:17:20.000 of your classic albums. That's easy, the same music, doing 1:17:20.000 --> 1:17:23.160 a thing, but just getting different features on their different look. 1:17:23.200 --> 1:17:25.320 You know what I'm saying. I think that would be dope. Man. 1:17:25.560 --> 1:17:27.479 That's easy to do because I got my own masses, 1:17:27.520 --> 1:17:29.760 you know, on the ship, So you know that's what 1:17:29.800 --> 1:17:31.160 I want to do. When you do that, I want 1:17:31.200 --> 1:17:33.000 to be the anchor on the on the video ship, 1:17:33.360 --> 1:17:35.439 you know. MTV used to have I forgot my man name. 1:17:35.520 --> 1:17:36.760 Used to be the anchor. He used to be on 1:17:36.840 --> 1:17:39.320 everything and be like this is the videos and tune in. 1:17:42.200 --> 1:17:43.920 Sure I got you his anchor on there. I've been 1:17:43.920 --> 1:17:47.160 telling you everything I'll do. You included in on bro man, 1:17:47.240 --> 1:17:50.320 let's rock. You know what I'm saying. And I appreciate 1:17:50.400 --> 1:17:52.360 you coming down and sit down will be the day dog. 1:17:52.600 --> 1:17:54.599 Y'all don't know this interview don't been a long time 1:17:54.640 --> 1:17:58.679 in the making. But Crawford really was a big busy guy. 1:17:59.360 --> 1:18:01.200 He's a busy got got a lot of business is 1:18:01.240 --> 1:18:04.120 going on. We got a car dealership, different stuff like that. Man, 1:18:04.600 --> 1:18:07.000 a lot of stuff going on. So y'all be on 1:18:07.000 --> 1:18:08.760 the lookout, man, because I'm gonna you know, he like 1:18:08.840 --> 1:18:11.120 to lock nest monster. He only come out of the 1:18:11.120 --> 1:18:13.040 water every few years. But I'm just trying to pull 1:18:13.080 --> 1:18:14.559 them out a little bit more. Yeah, I'm gonna come 1:18:14.560 --> 1:18:16.720 out a little bit more. And I'm working with me, 1:18:16.840 --> 1:18:19.040 no family, my loved ones. I can come out and 1:18:19.080 --> 1:18:21.160 be safe, you know, man, Yeah, for sure, And um, 1:18:21.200 --> 1:18:23.160 I know you don't got no social media channel, so 1:18:23.160 --> 1:18:25.080 I guess when people see you, they gets running to you. 1:18:26.080 --> 1:18:28.240 For sure. I haven't got no social media to give 1:18:28.280 --> 1:18:31.080 you off of my guy, y'all. Just so I don't know, 1:18:31.720 --> 1:18:33.160 y'all get out of my guests on the gangs of 1:18:33.240 --> 1:18:37.960 chronicles page or whatever. Relate the message, just good messages, 1:18:38.160 --> 1:18:40.960 and I relate the message. Man. So is it anything 1:18:40.960 --> 1:18:42.400 out there that, man, that you want to lead to 1:18:42.400 --> 1:18:46.599 the people? Man before we jump up off of here, man, Man, honestly, bro, 1:18:46.920 --> 1:18:50.320 I just I like to hear new ship. I like 1:18:50.439 --> 1:18:54.360 to hear a new vision, a new direction of ship. 1:18:54.439 --> 1:18:57.640 So what I want to say to just just this 1:18:58.960 --> 1:19:02.120 ship right here, man. Far as like the music in 1:19:02.160 --> 1:19:04.400 the streets, and I'm starting to notice that the streets 1:19:04.400 --> 1:19:09.559 and more tied into the music now, and it's more like, 1:19:09.840 --> 1:19:12.559 you know, like I hear the term that they're using. 1:19:12.600 --> 1:19:14.920 It's not our term, but the gang gang. You've heard 1:19:15.000 --> 1:19:18.400 them say that ship, you gang gang, Like we don't 1:19:18.439 --> 1:19:20.479 say that ship out here, and it's not not no 1:19:20.640 --> 1:19:23.360 knock on it or whatever. But we used to hit 1:19:23.439 --> 1:19:26.000 niggas up like, hey, where you froming? You bang? You 1:19:26.000 --> 1:19:28.960 you bang? Are you gang? That same ship? Whatever? But 1:19:29.360 --> 1:19:31.120 I'm starting to see a lot of that ship is 1:19:31.360 --> 1:19:34.160 entwined into the culture. Man, And It's just one of 1:19:34.160 --> 1:19:37.760 those things to where you gotta really, to me, be 1:19:37.880 --> 1:19:40.160 about that ship and know what you're doing before you 1:19:40.200 --> 1:19:42.160 start doing all this ship bro. And if you're not 1:19:42.200 --> 1:19:45.360 really about that, like, you don't need the funk with 1:19:45.400 --> 1:19:49.120 that to be up. You got dudes like um like 1:19:49.479 --> 1:19:54.240 uhn J Cole. That's to me like a cool niggas 1:19:54.240 --> 1:19:58.479 that wrap their ass off. That's doing very well without saying, Hey, 1:19:58.520 --> 1:20:02.040 I'm from blank blank blank A care I'm affiliated with this. 1:20:03.120 --> 1:20:06.400 You got dudes that's that's in the ship, like the 1:20:06.439 --> 1:20:08.759 homie from from the neighborhood, but here about that ship, 1:20:09.320 --> 1:20:11.920 y g that's that's the homie, say from the same 1:20:11.960 --> 1:20:14.640 neighborhood or whatever, but he about that ship. Those are 1:20:14.680 --> 1:20:18.720 two different artists on two different paths. But you could 1:20:18.720 --> 1:20:20.920 tell that this dude is about the ship because that's 1:20:20.920 --> 1:20:23.519 what he talked about. J. Cole is about that ship 1:20:23.560 --> 1:20:26.320 and that's what we talked about. So to me, I 1:20:26.360 --> 1:20:28.720 want dudes to find a lane. I wish they would 1:20:28.720 --> 1:20:31.760 find a lane. Don't just talk about the same ship. 1:20:31.880 --> 1:20:33.680 How many times we're gonna be in the street, how 1:20:33.680 --> 1:20:35.920 many times we're gonna do this, how many times I 1:20:35.960 --> 1:20:38.400 want to hear some new ship. I want to hear 1:20:38.439 --> 1:20:41.080 some ship like when Wu Tang came out and it 1:20:41.200 --> 1:20:43.400 was just like a crewe motherfucker's doing something different. They 1:20:43.439 --> 1:20:46.759 took the karate ship and made a whole motherfucking career 1:20:46.800 --> 1:20:49.040 out exactly. That's what I'm looking for. What I'm saying. 1:20:49.040 --> 1:20:50.680 You know what's funny about you saying that I was 1:20:50.760 --> 1:20:53.800 telling somebody. The other thing is when do we go 1:20:53.880 --> 1:20:59.559 get another bone thug, you know, just somebody to come 1:20:59.600 --> 1:21:03.280 out with something that's so different. I'm waiting on that 1:21:03.320 --> 1:21:06.000 ship now, That's what I'm like. So that's like I'm 1:21:06.040 --> 1:21:09.599 gonna close with kind of with that ship. And I'm 1:21:09.680 --> 1:21:14.880 really surprised at how And it's no not because a 1:21:14.960 --> 1:21:17.040 nigga from where he fund we did the whole street 1:21:17.040 --> 1:21:18.960 ship or whatever, like you said, we don't grow man 1:21:19.000 --> 1:21:24.160 and business ship now, but I'm surprised at how like 1:21:24.240 --> 1:21:28.720 they're making this this street ship so like acceptable and 1:21:28.760 --> 1:21:31.040 it's cool and this and that, and it's just so 1:21:32.120 --> 1:21:35.880 like to me, it's kind of like water down or sugarcoated, 1:21:36.000 --> 1:21:39.559 like just like the gang ship like that's and then 1:21:39.720 --> 1:21:42.559 it reaches out of out of California like I don't. 1:21:42.960 --> 1:21:45.240 I don't want that ship to be out in the South. 1:21:45.360 --> 1:21:47.280 I don't want that ship to be on the East Coast, 1:21:47.280 --> 1:21:51.800 and I don't want that shipped to be you get 1:21:51.800 --> 1:21:54.400 what I'm saying. No, don't get me wrong, because it's 1:21:54.439 --> 1:21:57.440 my fucker's that then put it on the line. It's reputable, 1:21:57.560 --> 1:22:01.840 reputable motherfucker's in every city restate. But it's just a 1:22:01.880 --> 1:22:05.320 certain way that you carry let their own way. Like 1:22:05.360 --> 1:22:07.080 when I go down to New Orleans, I don't want 1:22:07.080 --> 1:22:09.320 to see no crips and bloods down. I want them 1:22:09.360 --> 1:22:12.200 doing their stuff and calling us whoa and doing their thing. 1:22:12.880 --> 1:22:14.800 What I'm saying, because that's the coach or let me 1:22:14.800 --> 1:22:16.760 get some of that culture. Let me get some of that. 1:22:17.200 --> 1:22:18.960 The East Coast, let me get some of that, you 1:22:18.960 --> 1:22:21.400 know what I'm saying. That the the up North ship, 1:22:21.479 --> 1:22:23.360 let me get some of that that Chicago, let me 1:22:23.360 --> 1:22:25.240 get you know what I'm saying. It's like, but we 1:22:25.280 --> 1:22:28.640 can do that ship without being you know, funked up 1:22:28.680 --> 1:22:31.120 towards each other, turning up on each other or whatever, 1:22:31.520 --> 1:22:34.479 because the Nigga is still then touched all these different cities. 1:22:35.040 --> 1:22:37.280 And like I said before, but like we talked about 1:22:37.320 --> 1:22:39.320 at the death Row Ship. The real nigga recognized. The 1:22:39.360 --> 1:22:41.960 real nigga we pull up in any hood. We ain't 1:22:42.080 --> 1:22:44.719 coming to disrespect, and we ain't coming to say all 1:22:44.720 --> 1:22:46.320 we in your hood, this and this and that. We 1:22:46.400 --> 1:22:49.000 come with respect. So when you come out here, you're 1:22:49.000 --> 1:22:50.800 gonna get the same respect from us. You get what 1:22:50.840 --> 1:22:53.320 I'm saying. But we want to go to Chicago and 1:22:53.320 --> 1:22:57.200 get the Herald's chicken. We want to go to uh 1:22:57.320 --> 1:22:59.960 to uh St. Louis and ship and go into into 1:23:00.080 --> 1:23:02.080 the Pink Slip. The pink slip, I heard clothes down. 1:23:02.360 --> 1:23:04.360 That's a stress. I don't the real nigga know what 1:23:04.360 --> 1:23:06.080 I'm talking about. But you know what I'm saying. You 1:23:06.120 --> 1:23:08.400 want to go over there and get your your experiences. 1:23:08.439 --> 1:23:10.080 Like you said, you want to go to the quarters 1:23:10.080 --> 1:23:12.439 and get you some Benyat's. And you know what I'm saying. 1:23:12.439 --> 1:23:15.519 You want to keep you want to keep the coachure authentic. 1:23:15.840 --> 1:23:18.200 It's like, you know, the crypton blood and stuff is 1:23:18.240 --> 1:23:20.080 a West Coast thing. And not to say that the 1:23:20.120 --> 1:23:22.360 brothers in Kansas City, because they're doing it. They've been 1:23:22.360 --> 1:23:24.160 doing it since the eighties. Now at this point, you know, 1:23:25.000 --> 1:23:27.000 you know they've been banging out there for thirty or 1:23:27.040 --> 1:23:31.000 forty years now, and I think what happened was the 1:23:31.040 --> 1:23:33.519 old dope routes. They kind of went out there and 1:23:33.520 --> 1:23:35.600 they brought their coature out there, the different people and 1:23:35.600 --> 1:23:37.240 that kind of just still the test of time and 1:23:37.320 --> 1:23:40.560 stayed out there. But I hope people stay authentic to 1:23:40.640 --> 1:23:42.880 what their culture real. And I think that's what you're saying. 1:23:43.439 --> 1:23:47.519 That's exactly what I'm saying, bro, because I'm honestly norm 1:23:47.560 --> 1:23:51.120 I'm the nigger that was in content. But I listened 1:23:51.160 --> 1:23:55.240 to a lot of hip hop from from fucking um 1:23:55.479 --> 1:24:01.800 KRS one two UM, I mean everybody, bro, like uh 1:24:02.320 --> 1:24:05.280 j Ice, I mean dudes that's back in the day 1:24:05.640 --> 1:24:07.760 g rap I listened to all that ship. Bro. I 1:24:07.800 --> 1:24:10.599 was one of them to Slick Rick all the ship 1:24:10.720 --> 1:24:13.599 that was kind of like the master aththing. I mean 1:24:13.640 --> 1:24:15.880 a lot of New York. I was influenced by a 1:24:15.880 --> 1:24:18.160 lot of the East Coast ship honestly, Bro. And it 1:24:18.280 --> 1:24:20.720 was like to meet them dudes was just dope and 1:24:20.800 --> 1:24:25.200 how they create ship. My nigga j Ruda Dammager and 1:24:25.240 --> 1:24:27.920 that was one of your biggest New York was one 1:24:27.920 --> 1:24:31.439 of your biggest York for sure, man, they funked with me. Man. 1:24:31.439 --> 1:24:33.679 And it's it's funny like when I see a couple 1:24:33.720 --> 1:24:36.000 of dudes, Like sometimes I run into method Man and 1:24:36.040 --> 1:24:38.240 he would be like high seat, you know, Like we'll 1:24:38.280 --> 1:24:40.000 be like yeah and he's like oh yeah, like he 1:24:40.320 --> 1:24:42.800 give me that, Like uh, like I heard you, you know, 1:24:42.880 --> 1:24:45.439 like the nod and ship. So I'm like, you know, 1:24:45.520 --> 1:24:48.800 we was listening to their ship. We was influenced by it. 1:24:48.880 --> 1:24:50.920 Now it seem like it's just the l A ship 1:24:51.080 --> 1:24:53.960 is like touching everybody for us? Is you know the 1:24:54.240 --> 1:24:57.559 street culture ship man? And I just I'm just looking 1:24:57.600 --> 1:25:00.200 at it, like, bro, if that's not really you lead 1:25:00.200 --> 1:25:03.120 that ship along, Let the real nicks do that. There's 1:25:03.120 --> 1:25:05.479 other ways to get your bread. You know what, Before 1:25:05.520 --> 1:25:07.200 you go, I'm gonna ask you this question, Bro. You 1:25:07.200 --> 1:25:09.519 can answer it whether you want to or not. What 1:25:09.560 --> 1:25:12.160 do you think about the whole thing where cats, certain 1:25:12.200 --> 1:25:15.000 cats is going online trying to expose cats for snitching 1:25:15.080 --> 1:25:19.320 and all that type of stuff. Man, you think that's dangerous? Man, 1:25:19.920 --> 1:25:22.599 then who ship we gotta hold? Look, it's a whole 1:25:22.600 --> 1:25:26.240 another motherfucking five guy. But it's like to me, I'm 1:25:26.240 --> 1:25:27.920 gonna say it like this like the old people used 1:25:27.960 --> 1:25:31.320 to tell us, if you can't do the time, don't 1:25:31.320 --> 1:25:34.280 do the crime. So if you're getting out here fucking 1:25:34.320 --> 1:25:36.760 around and you know some ship, don't look at what 1:25:36.800 --> 1:25:39.439 you're gonna gain or what you're about to win. Look 1:25:39.439 --> 1:25:41.280 at what you jeopardize. And then you're about to leave 1:25:41.320 --> 1:25:43.599 your kids behind? Are you about to leave somebody behind 1:25:43.720 --> 1:25:47.200 or your son behind or whoever the fuck because you 1:25:47.320 --> 1:25:49.280 got in this moment, or you got in your feelings 1:25:49.360 --> 1:25:51.120 or you wanted to try some dumb ship or some 1:25:51.200 --> 1:25:55.800 stupid ship, think about what you're gonna lose before you 1:25:55.880 --> 1:25:57.719 think about what you're gonna gain or what you're about 1:25:57.720 --> 1:25:59.680 to do, and turn up. And I'm saying that to 1:25:59.680 --> 1:26:02.639 say it won't put you in a position to where 1:26:02.720 --> 1:26:05.479 you have to get down on somebody or you have 1:26:05.600 --> 1:26:08.160 to snitch on somebody, because you know how to go. 1:26:08.240 --> 1:26:11.400 When they started saying, oh, well, hey you're looking at 1:26:12.439 --> 1:26:16.439 are you looking at thirty? And most mothercker's like thirty? 1:26:16.560 --> 1:26:20.040 I can't do thirty? So such as such, did Black 1:26:20.080 --> 1:26:22.080 Black Blake x y Z. You know what I'm saying. 1:26:22.400 --> 1:26:24.559 When they started hitting them with the big jersey numbers, 1:26:24.600 --> 1:26:27.360 this ship, the oh you got you looking at fifteen, 1:26:28.880 --> 1:26:32.280 but the real motherfucker's nor Hey you're looking at twenty. 1:26:32.280 --> 1:26:35.880 Come on with it, Come on, that's that's the way 1:26:35.920 --> 1:26:38.120 to be. But but what do you think as far 1:26:38.160 --> 1:26:44.920 as cats going online and actually pointing people out. Man, 1:26:45.920 --> 1:26:48.840 it's a tricky situation because you pointed. But look at 1:26:48.880 --> 1:26:51.400 what you just said, right, you point the nick out 1:26:51.439 --> 1:26:54.200 for snitching. But what you're doing when you're pointing the 1:26:54.240 --> 1:26:58.040 figure you snitched on the snitch. Because what I was 1:26:58.080 --> 1:27:01.320 always told bro, you know uncles man, they stayed in 1:27:01.320 --> 1:27:05.280 the penitential and they told me this exactly. They said, Man, 1:27:05.360 --> 1:27:08.680 if you go expose somebody, you gotta be willing either 1:27:08.800 --> 1:27:11.960 handle your business or don't say nothing at all. It 1:27:12.040 --> 1:27:13.760 was one of them things like handle your business that 1:27:13.800 --> 1:27:17.240 don't say about So I feel I agree he right 1:27:17.280 --> 1:27:20.320 about that, because if I'm saying this nigga snitching, I'm 1:27:20.320 --> 1:27:23.920 snitching that he's snitching. Yeah for real. And if I 1:27:24.000 --> 1:27:26.000 know he funked up, you know what, the best bet, 1:27:26.200 --> 1:27:28.880 the best thing to do is my best bet, stay though, 1:27:29.040 --> 1:27:32.200 fuck away from this knee Like I don't funk with 1:27:32.240 --> 1:27:35.720 you affiliated like you can't call me as I'm just 1:27:36.680 --> 1:27:38.760 yeah for real and there it is. And y'all be 1:27:38.800 --> 1:27:40.840 on the lookout man, because Crowt don't say it to me. 1:27:40.880 --> 1:27:42.840 You can't want to show. I got witnesses. We gotta. 1:27:43.040 --> 1:27:44.639 We got a lot of people to listen to this man. 1:27:44.680 --> 1:27:46.840 So y'all, I got witnesses. Now crossing when I hit 1:27:46.920 --> 1:27:49.160 you up and say, hey, man, I got the shooting 1:27:49.160 --> 1:27:51.320 schedule ready, we're about to do this thing. I want 1:27:51.320 --> 1:27:53.439 to do something on the roadeum for sure. Man, Let's 1:27:53.479 --> 1:27:54.840 do it big. Still. You know I love you, man. 1:27:54.840 --> 1:27:56.280 You the only nigger that could put me out the 1:27:56.280 --> 1:27:58.719 cut man and just make me come out. Man, whenever 1:27:58.760 --> 1:28:00.400 you call them coming, you do. You put up the 1:28:00.400 --> 1:28:04.000 best thing on me for shore. So y'all heard him, 1:28:04.080 --> 1:28:05.960 and we out of here. Hell yeah,