Speaker 1: We like to welcome everyone to another episode of the
Speaker 1: Gangster Chronicles podcasts, and this one is special. Right here,
Speaker 1: one of my good friends from the city of Compton, California,
Speaker 1: a lot of pivotal hits under his belt, considered the lection.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It made a lot of records. Man.
Speaker 1: He runs with a producer by the name of DJ
Speaker 1: Quick that's a pretty decent producer and it's a home
Speaker 1: right now. He's a fucking genius. Um, we got my
Speaker 1: good friend high seat in the house. Cross. What's up? Man?
Speaker 1: What's up still? Man? Just killing man. I've been waiting
Speaker 1: to get you in here forever. Man. Man, this feels
Speaker 1: crazy because you're my bro. We talked like every day,
Speaker 1: like you know, yeah for sure. And that's why sometimes
Speaker 1: we're doing these interviews, man, with people that you're real
Speaker 1: cool with because all you're doing is having a conversation
Speaker 1: and you know everything about that person. But you asked
Speaker 1: him about stuff you already knew. So, Man, this is
Speaker 1: special because you don't give a lot of interviews. I
Speaker 1: think I've only seen like a couple of interviews on
Speaker 1: your online There was people like I saw you did
Speaker 1: one with Tony a yeah, and I think you're doing
Speaker 1: with some baker. Yeah, that's the only that's that's it.
Speaker 1: That's it. No social media at all. So when I
Speaker 1: told the people and um, I did a post and said, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm about to get high to see in the studio,
Speaker 1: I had like, man, maybe liked people in the thread, man,
Speaker 1: which is a lot. So you're real popular out there. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to do one of my like like
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant is something. Give me one of them ghosts
Speaker 1: and burners accounts and ship. You have to rocking and
Speaker 1: rocking like that. You have too, dog, because people love
Speaker 1: you out there and they want to hear from you. Man.
Speaker 1: I love him back for show. So we could go
Speaker 1: way back to the beginning. Since you don't do a
Speaker 1: lot of interviews, how when you when you first start rapping, Man,
Speaker 1: I had to be I don't want to say probably
Speaker 1: if I had to take a guess, and it's not accurate,
Speaker 1: but I want to say probably about thirteen fourteen years old,
Speaker 1: somewhere around there, because a lot of people don't know.
Speaker 1: You don't write your reps down on paper. Everything you
Speaker 1: do is kind of like a freestyle. Yeah. Yeah, Like
Speaker 1: I said, I sit there and think about it and
Speaker 1: think about it, and it's almost like I treated like
Speaker 1: a rehearsal, you know, like if you're going to school
Speaker 1: or something you had to play that you wanted to recite.
Speaker 1: And you know one of the Martin Luther King plays
Speaker 1: that she was a part of when you was holding
Speaker 1: the M and the M is for you know. So
Speaker 1: I just felt like I wanted to have my hands free.
Speaker 1: I wanted to be able to express myself using my hands.
Speaker 1: A lot of us do. So I was like, man,
Speaker 1: let me just start kind of like remembering, like, you know,
Speaker 1: by the time we all in the studio, because we
Speaker 1: all be you know, it'd be groups of us in
Speaker 1: the studio, and by the time dudes finished, right and
Speaker 1: their ship, I'm sitting there thinking about, Okay, I wanted
Speaker 1: in there like this and I want to end it
Speaker 1: like this. And you know, don't get me wrong. When
Speaker 1: I first started, I had like no books and ship
Speaker 1: that I used to write down. And I remember in
Speaker 1: high school I had this like fold or a couple
Speaker 1: of folders, man, and I don't know where the hell
Speaker 1: they went. I think somebody got me or I probably
Speaker 1: to misplace them. Ships or whatever, but nor I might
Speaker 1: have some fire in there, like and you know, when
Speaker 1: you got that ship, you can't get it back because
Speaker 1: you wrote it down to a certain rain and you
Speaker 1: can't remember exactly what it is. So I was like, damn,
Speaker 1: I don't want to lose some more notebooks, you know,
Speaker 1: So you just start keeping everything up beside the brain,
Speaker 1: you know. Um, so you mentioned that you've got rapping,
Speaker 1: start rapping real early's Quick producing there. Yeah, Quick was
Speaker 1: doing most of the like Quick was more of a
Speaker 1: producer than he was a rapper man. People don't really
Speaker 1: know that. Like he was really uh DJ quick mix,
Speaker 1: So he was doing all the beats for you early on. Um,
Speaker 1: he was like I was messing around with stuff, you know,
Speaker 1: on my own or whatever, you know, how to get
Speaker 1: down or whatever. So but he was like he had
Speaker 1: that ship downpat Like he would take the cheapest piece
Speaker 1: of equipment or the like lower level piece of equipment
Speaker 1: and just make wonders out of that ship. Like he
Speaker 1: got every he squeezed every juice out of that limit
Speaker 1: like he can't, you know, Like he just knew how
Speaker 1: to take something and just make that ship just sound
Speaker 1: real real good man. Yeah, because a lot of the
Speaker 1: early recordings, you guys doing the mix tapes and stuff
Speaker 1: on those Roodium Squat Meat mixed tapes. Yeah, they were
Speaker 1: doing on four tracks, right, that was done on the
Speaker 1: four track. That was Steve you the Rest in Peace
Speaker 1: and Tony. Yeah. Yeah, those them ships took a long
Speaker 1: time to do. That's how I ended up meeting like
Speaker 1: Easy and Dr Dre you know, from from doing the
Speaker 1: Roodium stuff too. Yeah, because you go back a long
Speaker 1: way and you still look young as hell. Oh man,
Speaker 1: think you know, always look like a kid. Every time
Speaker 1: I see you. I got I gotta kick up, man,
Speaker 1: I gotta kick the gym. Man, come on, man, you
Speaker 1: know I'm you know, that's where i'd be at, and
Speaker 1: that's what I want to go into. Man, when did
Speaker 1: you When did the crew get together? Like when did
Speaker 1: you start hooking up with Quick Second and nothing? All
Speaker 1: those guys, well ship, most of us went to school together.
Speaker 1: Quick stayed around the corn We from the same neighborhood
Speaker 1: or whatever. So man, you already know so we you know,
Speaker 1: Quick stayed around the corner and we was like real
Speaker 1: tightest friends and just used to ride dirt bikes. Man,
Speaker 1: like the stuff you see now when the dudes on
Speaker 1: the dirt bikes. We was riding dirt bikes man, a
Speaker 1: long time ago, like just in the streets and doing
Speaker 1: our ship dirt by ride and just doing what you know,
Speaker 1: the normal badass little kids was doing. And Quick was
Speaker 1: over there doing this thing. I had another dude that
Speaker 1: I used to work with, not work with, but just
Speaker 1: make music, like just sunking around with with the turntables.
Speaker 1: His name was Sean Whitehurst, so white Hurst mixed Master
Speaker 1: white we used to call them. Used to blend all
Speaker 1: the ship, and we had the reverbs and we didn't
Speaker 1: really have drum machines back there, so we would just
Speaker 1: get down off the instrumentals and then we started like
Speaker 1: you know, everybody was doing their little ship. Back then
Speaker 1: it was like ballers and they was making money and
Speaker 1: they'll give us, giving like a hundred dollars just to
Speaker 1: make a tape for him and say their name and
Speaker 1: the tape because they wanted to impress the girls and ship.
Speaker 1: So they'd be like, man, I'll be like, hell yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll take this hunted. Like to me, it was like god,
Speaker 1: damn young, you know, looking at the Hunter, it was
Speaker 1: like back then, it was like God damn. That was
Speaker 1: a lot. So take the hunters say their name in
Speaker 1: there and you know, ship like that, and they wanted
Speaker 1: their own little That's when the sound systems in the
Speaker 1: car was real big, like need to shake your house
Speaker 1: like two fifteens and ship off beating down the blocks.
Speaker 1: They had their name in the tape, and then we
Speaker 1: just kind of started like that and were with this
Speaker 1: talk about eighty something. That's one of the sound systems.
Speaker 1: That's my first Kelly. People have like five thousand watching
Speaker 1: their trunk and you just like gorillas trying to get
Speaker 1: over the Yeah, man, they ship in the cars. Man,
Speaker 1: sometimes did it take your breath like you're feeling the
Speaker 1: base in your chest and your eye lashes wiggling this ship.
Speaker 1: You'd be like, god damn, but niggas is really into
Speaker 1: that sound ship and putting you know, doing personalized tapes
Speaker 1: and ship. You know, it was it was like the
Speaker 1: thing you know so quick was always nice then, well
Speaker 1: yeah I always had it's always had a talent and
Speaker 1: just a gift for that ship. Yeah, so y'all get together,
Speaker 1: y'all doing the mixed tapes and everything like that, and
Speaker 1: y'all got the whole cruise. I notice y'all appeared on
Speaker 1: each each other's joints, like, y'all will hear you on
Speaker 1: second to none stuff out here? Second to none on
Speaker 1: your stuff out here? Quick on your stuff, and vice versa.
Speaker 1: So around what time did you get your first because
Speaker 1: you was working with Steve, you don't rest in peace? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I went to the Aldier man my boy, my, my
Speaker 1: my dog man. He just recently passed away man the
Speaker 1: uh my boy baby and b b me and bb um.
Speaker 1: He was like craft man, come up to the road
Speaker 1: and swap swap me with me. And I was like,
Speaker 1: what's up there? He was like, man, I'm looking for jobs,
Speaker 1: like we can get some money up there. And I
Speaker 1: was like, no, ship. He was like yeah, So I said, man,
Speaker 1: you sure. We caught the bus up there and put
Speaker 1: up at the roodeum and he went. I think he
Speaker 1: was working with some dude that did that, sold weights
Speaker 1: and the weightlifting equipment and ship like that. So I
Speaker 1: ran into this dude that sold pants like his name,
Speaker 1: you know, named George, a little short French guy, and
Speaker 1: Ship took like smooth with the ladies. He sold women clothing.
Speaker 1: So I was like, all right, I'm gonna get a
Speaker 1: job with him, helping him, you know, sell clothes or whatever.
Speaker 1: And so I used to always hear this music coming
Speaker 1: from this this stand, you know. She we was just
Speaker 1: attracted to music or whatever. I used to hear this
Speaker 1: music and I'm like, man, they're playing some ship over there.
Speaker 1: I gotta go see what's going on, you know. So
Speaker 1: I went over there and I saw Steve Yano, and
Speaker 1: then I end up probably meeting Tony a like a
Speaker 1: little bit later on. But I'm looking at still. I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: you know, when I pull up over there, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be some black dude or whatever. I look at Steve.
Speaker 1: Steve Yano is Asian dude, long hair and ship like this.
Speaker 1: His wife, you know, Asian shout out the suit. She
Speaker 1: that's that's still a homie, man. So I'm looking at
Speaker 1: him like man. But one thing about Steve norm you
Speaker 1: can't judge a book by its cover, because this dude
Speaker 1: knew every fucking record, every name of a record, who
Speaker 1: made the record. Kind of like quick dude, Like we
Speaker 1: would be riding and quickly do the same thing, like,
Speaker 1: oh that's such and such you made this, and that's
Speaker 1: the keyboard player from Janna where the Bernie, Well, he
Speaker 1: just know all the ship. You know. Steve Yano was
Speaker 1: the same way, Hey, you need to use this break
Speaker 1: and do this and this and that. He was just
Speaker 1: the king of the Vinyl So a lot of people
Speaker 1: used to gravitate towards him to get their records. And
Speaker 1: back then, you know, we just to sample a lot
Speaker 1: of ship off a break beats and we'll go through
Speaker 1: all kinds of cratesive records just to find that little
Speaker 1: break so we can sample that ship to wrap too.
Speaker 1: So Steve had all these old school records, and the
Speaker 1: long story short, I just started telling him like, look, man,
Speaker 1: I get down. I wrapped, you know, and I've saved
Speaker 1: of some money to take my uh take my little
Speaker 1: project to the black Hole studios. Back in the day,
Speaker 1: that was a little black hole. So I found out.
Speaker 1: I went in there and made me some little ship.
Speaker 1: It was some little cool ship or whatever. It wasn't
Speaker 1: really then I let him motherfucker here today. But it
Speaker 1: was like some little ship, you know, Like I went
Speaker 1: in there and stretched out and then he heard some
Speaker 1: of my ship and he was like, okay, you're serious.
Speaker 1: But I'm like yeah, I'm like this is my ship,
Speaker 1: you know, And then I only that, Like I played
Speaker 1: Alto saxon junior high then I played a little bit
Speaker 1: of high school. So I was always into music, man,
Speaker 1: just always into it. A lot of people don't know
Speaker 1: because you produce yourself too. Yeah, you're you're a producer,
Speaker 1: very good producer. Did you ever um at some point
Speaker 1: what made you decide I'm gonna focus more on my
Speaker 1: rapping than making the beat because you was doing both
Speaker 1: for a while, right, Yeah, But it was primarily because
Speaker 1: you never really put yourself out there as a producer.
Speaker 1: No ever did, man, Because I feel like when I
Speaker 1: do something like when I'm producing, I feel like it'll
Speaker 1: be like if I'm working with you to be telling
Speaker 1: made for me and you to get down on, or
Speaker 1: if it's something for me like you know, like I
Speaker 1: would out with my producing stuff, I feel like it's
Speaker 1: more of a vogue, like a frequency, like a lower
Speaker 1: level higher level vibe or whatever we into or whatever
Speaker 1: we're shooting for at the moment. So I felt like
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to go and just do a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of beats and ship for somebody else that probably
Speaker 1: wouldn't understand where I'm coming from, you know, if that
Speaker 1: makes sense, like this is what I'm feeling on this
Speaker 1: or this is what I'm feeling on that. So I
Speaker 1: just kind of like let like quick and then don't
Speaker 1: get me wrong, quick is like to master at that ship.
Speaker 1: So when he do the ship on the SP two,
Speaker 1: if he can do that ship so quick and he
Speaker 1: made it effortless, and it was like ship, that's you.
Speaker 1: That's what you do. Like if we're playing baseball, you
Speaker 1: the picture. I'm the catcher of the second baseman. We
Speaker 1: got a short stop. I don't need to be doing
Speaker 1: everything I can. Let him get down, you get what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Just stretch out on what I can do.
Speaker 1: Not now who was officially in the crew, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: try to name him off to him if I missed anybody, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you got a second and then you got quick yep,
Speaker 1: of course I see you. Then we had Homie mars
Speaker 1: Burg well before magg was the only one that wasn't
Speaker 1: from the city. But we put him on real early
Speaker 1: in the game, like A and G. Just always been
Speaker 1: good with the with another dude that produced to like
Speaker 1: produced his ass off, write his own wraps. But he
Speaker 1: was just like more like a real like rapper, rapper.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That nigga can spit. He
Speaker 1: got bars, you know, so shut off to MG. That's
Speaker 1: my partner. I had to get him in there because
Speaker 1: he's another dude to stay off the spot. Like hell yeah,
Speaker 1: social media just around yep. Yeah. So we met G
Speaker 1: later on and then um after G Sugar sugar Free
Speaker 1: was sugar free, you know, like you know, that's that's
Speaker 1: the whole We can get into that though, but we
Speaker 1: go go through the whole thing. YEA Free came in
Speaker 1: and then Massy was rested. Peace. That's my little nigger man.
Speaker 1: Marsburger was like when our dudes that was upcoming like
Speaker 1: but fast though, like he was, you know, doing this
Speaker 1: ship he was. He was pushing a line heavy line on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was hungry. Yeah, he was coming up fast. Mars
Speaker 1: Burger and I gotta mention my homeboy me and then
Speaker 1: gave me my first check, one of the guys gave
Speaker 1: my first check because I got my first piece of
Speaker 1: money through you. And then Black Tone got me my
Speaker 1: first placement as a producer. Shout out black Yeah, shout
Speaker 1: off Black Tone, and Black Tone is doing well now
Speaker 1: he had a stroke. Yeah, yeah, he's recovering doing you know,
Speaker 1: doing pretty good. We talked on occasion and ship so
Speaker 1: man speedy recovery to black and Man for show. Okay,
Speaker 1: so we go going to the phase man to where
Speaker 1: you up at the Roodeum, And I don't think a
Speaker 1: lot of people, especially the young people, they recognized the
Speaker 1: significance of the Roodeum to West Coast hip. I would
Speaker 1: say the rohodium and the compatence whapped meat are the
Speaker 1: two hubs for Southern California hip hop, especially back in
Speaker 1: the eighties. A lot of people got they start out
Speaker 1: those two, you know, comptence whapped meat, not the rodium.
Speaker 1: I would say, even more so the rodium because the
Speaker 1: rodium was before the comptence wapped me. Yeah, no, you're right,
Speaker 1: especially if if it wasn't before, but the music was before. Definitely, Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure. Because you mentioned seeing Dr Dre up there, Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure. Dr Dre would be up there hust on
Speaker 1: his stuff, the world class wrecking crew at the time,
Speaker 1: and the easy up there. That's how many an easy Matt,
Speaker 1: You're easy, That's what I was going to. How did
Speaker 1: you guys not wind up on Ruthless Records. That's that's
Speaker 1: that's a big question. That's a good question though, because
Speaker 1: I honestly thought, like back in the day, like when
Speaker 1: we was getting down me and Quick and all, it
Speaker 1: was like we really thought that was like because you know,
Speaker 1: like just imagine kids from the city that didn't know
Speaker 1: the industry at all too much. But we just know
Speaker 1: what we see in front of us, which is, you know,
Speaker 1: Ruthless Records that we see on the label. We don't
Speaker 1: know how big it is or who owned it, or
Speaker 1: this and this and that, and it was like Death Jam,
Speaker 1: of course, it was just all of the what was
Speaker 1: the other label? I think it was like a sleeping
Speaker 1: bag and fourth and Broad this ship that we didn't
Speaker 1: really know if we didn't know who was what or whatever.
Speaker 1: But we also knew the bigger labels, you know, but
Speaker 1: back then, the bigger labels catered to stuff like, you know,
Speaker 1: the stuff that our parents are listened to, like Al
Speaker 1: Green and Teddy Pendergrass and you know, Michael Jackson all
Speaker 1: the ship that you know that people listened to. So
Speaker 1: we didn't really know like the hip hop ship like
Speaker 1: until Death Jam, you know, certain months came out, so
Speaker 1: We was figuring, like, you know, damn, we want to
Speaker 1: be down with Ruthless, but Ruthless was doing their own thing,
Speaker 1: going through their own distribution channels. So we ended up
Speaker 1: landing where we landed. Thank god, it was cool. You know,
Speaker 1: you haven't been a lot of recording sessions and everything. Man,
Speaker 1: what's the craziest thing you don't ever seen? The apping? Man?
Speaker 1: Oh man, you mean like some turn up ship turning
Speaker 1: up anything like that, especially you know y'alls some of
Speaker 1: them death throw recording sessions. You heard about him And
Speaker 1: I don't even know if it was at the studio,
Speaker 1: but just for instance, you know your boy good niggas.
Speaker 1: So I ain't gonna say no names or whatever, but
Speaker 1: I heard. I heard it was the instance where Motherfucker's
Speaker 1: is getting ready to make a move or whatever. And
Speaker 1: they was in the hotel, right, so you know the hotels,
Speaker 1: you know they have plush safe in the hotel, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, they was in the hotel and uh should
Speaker 1: supposedly have put his ship in the in the um
Speaker 1: safe in this big room. And some of the homies
Speaker 1: went up there to go have a meeting with him.
Speaker 1: So I ain't gonna say they name, you know, because
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, I love at homies. I
Speaker 1: don't want to make it look like we're making fun
Speaker 1: of motherfucker's. But they went up there to have a
Speaker 1: meeting with him, and she was up there, a couple
Speaker 1: of the homies or whatever, and the safe was open
Speaker 1: and it's those those safe you know that in the room,
Speaker 1: the big black safe, and so the uh and this
Speaker 1: is all what I heard. I'm telling the story because
Speaker 1: of off of what I heard. So niggas know what
Speaker 1: they did. Whatever. So it was jury and the safe.
Speaker 1: You know, he'll take his jury off through it in
Speaker 1: the safe or whatever. So after the meeting, they had
Speaker 1: a meeting blah blah blah, this and this and that.
Speaker 1: So a couple of the homies was about to leave
Speaker 1: and a phone ring and his fat boy he said,
Speaker 1: you know, she said, hey, come back, would be a
Speaker 1: real quick and they could tell the way he said it,
Speaker 1: it sounds like some bushit. It was like oh, Ship
Speaker 1: and the homies was with him, and Ship was like,
Speaker 1: what's going on? What? What? What? And he was like,
Speaker 1: oh man, they want us to come back. And the
Speaker 1: home was like, man, why what's going on? What's happening.
Speaker 1: So the niggas double back and coming to the hotel room.
Speaker 1: Motherfucker just got on their head and was like, man,
Speaker 1: where my ship at. I was like, what ship? Man?
Speaker 1: My jury missing? And he was like just grabbing motherfucking
Speaker 1: And from what I hear them, they picked him up
Speaker 1: off the ground. Darth Vader and the boy I'm talking
Speaker 1: about it ain't no little nigga neither, but like ready
Speaker 1: to tear here I'm talking about, was on his head.
Speaker 1: You hear me still there? Yeah, then I you know,
Speaker 1: calling him up and ship like some real ship, like, man,
Speaker 1: where my ship at? Because back then, you know, like
Speaker 1: some of that ship is like easily like five hundred
Speaker 1: thousand dollars worth the fucking jury, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: rollies and ship plushed out or whatever the stuff. No, not, no,
Speaker 1: let me finish the story. This is what's crazy. So
Speaker 1: they got on the nigger man and I'm talking about
Speaker 1: pressing nigga and about the I don't know if they
Speaker 1: took off on him, but he was he was sucked up,
Speaker 1: like you know, pressing real hard. And my nigga the
Speaker 1: type of nigga that ain't gonna do no ship like that.
Speaker 1: So you know, the other homie was like, man, hold on,
Speaker 1: hold on, man, the homie don't do no ship like that, right,
Speaker 1: And they didn't grab the nigga up. And I heard
Speaker 1: they probably like slap him up a couple of times
Speaker 1: or whatever. I'm just telling the story how I heard it.
Speaker 1: But the nigg got, you know, he got, he got
Speaker 1: some ship. That's when death Row was at his at
Speaker 1: his finest, you know what I mean, the safe home.
Speaker 1: He was like, man, hold on, hold on all this
Speaker 1: motherfucking jewelry. They still you want to hear the funny ship,
Speaker 1: the slid off of the velvet pillow behind the pillow
Speaker 1: and the black safe, and the ship was always in
Speaker 1: the safe the whole time when they moved the pillow
Speaker 1: like man, it's right thereze and the HOPI just he
Speaker 1: was just like all right, damn it. Didn't even apologize.
Speaker 1: It was like all right for sure and just let
Speaker 1: the niggas go on. So it was definitely some ship
Speaker 1: going on back in the studios back in the day. Dude,
Speaker 1: try to fight back anything. Hell no, you can't fight
Speaker 1: back big still, I'm telling you're what I'm saying on me.
Speaker 1: Death Row at his prime, full strength. It's better to
Speaker 1: take that little swallow your pride. You walk out a
Speaker 1: love full stress, shooting a few dollars for the inconvenience.
Speaker 1: The inconvenience is nigger. You made it up out of here.
Speaker 1: And when I thought, you stole my ship, what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: And then it was another answers where the home? You
Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about? But I can. I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna say no names or whatever. But somebody had Bootleg
Speaker 1: to take and it was a real big artist coming
Speaker 1: up by the death Road that got the tape. I
Speaker 1: don't know. See if I say too much, they're gon
Speaker 1: connect the dots. But it was a real big artists,
Speaker 1: a real big artist coming up by the death row.
Speaker 1: He said, many fingers I put up, okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: I got you, and the audience can see that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So it was a real big artist. And somehow one
Speaker 1: of the dudes, one of the homies, end up getting
Speaker 1: the tape. And I heard was Bootleg and the ship
Speaker 1: or did some ship that they weren't supposed to do.
Speaker 1: And Quick might have spoke on this, and one of
Speaker 1: the records Bootleg the all lines on me, y'all gonna
Speaker 1: listen to that right there. But yeah, but that was
Speaker 1: one of them come on to you know, come up
Speaker 1: here the Red Room. They call it the Red Room meetings.
Speaker 1: And then you got his ass told the pieces. And
Speaker 1: this is another big nigger, another big nigger. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think I knew the initials to this name. Should I
Speaker 1: say the initials? Yeah? I won't say this will be yall, y'all,
Speaker 1: we had to do your homework on this one right here. Now,
Speaker 1: I got so much ship, you got to bring me
Speaker 1: back on. I got so much ship, crazy man, y'all,
Speaker 1: you want to look out for part two right here,
Speaker 1: because we've got some ship going on. We got some
Speaker 1: other ship we gotta talk to you all about. You know,
Speaker 1: this real ship though. You know this ship ain't homey
Speaker 1: got you know, but I mean by right like you
Speaker 1: Bootleg and nigga ship, you taking money out of it,
Speaker 1: you know, ta the nigga his pockets out of kids, myles?
Speaker 1: Why am I like Nigga going the studio, blood sweating
Speaker 1: tears doing this ship for motherfucker just to take it
Speaker 1: and bootlegged and give it to a motherfucker so you
Speaker 1: could d you had nothing to do with this ship
Speaker 1: like I understand why dude was man like that. So
Speaker 1: then you got in that red room and boy, I
Speaker 1: want to ask you about another whooping. If she was
Speaker 1: around for this whooping? Um, and this this got to
Speaker 1: do with her own, boy bet, because you know Sama,
Speaker 1: I just called Mosama, Osaman them on what the few
Speaker 1: people's ask open the thing and we could talk about this. Um,
Speaker 1: what was the name of that label? Man? That that
Speaker 1: that Osama And then was messing with Oh the you're
Speaker 1: talking about the Shepherd Lane, No, not shepperd Lane, this bungalow. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what was my man's name up there? Oh? Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know his name? But a little executive I saw the
Speaker 1: homeboy Sama was in the meeting. He was talking about
Speaker 1: let's get some stuff off the table, and dude kind
Speaker 1: of got smart and got the taste slapt out of
Speaker 1: his mouth back. And that's how I used to go
Speaker 1: back in the day. Let's go back to day you
Speaker 1: talked back. He was getting slapped a rounds toe up.
Speaker 1: And that's kind of the reason why, Like they always
Speaker 1: asked me, why I don't get into like putting out
Speaker 1: a lot of dudes or you know, producing other artists
Speaker 1: and ship like that, and It's kind of rare that
Speaker 1: you see a dude that's really about this ship, that
Speaker 1: really have that drive and really want to stay in
Speaker 1: the studio. I really want to sleep in the stayn
Speaker 1: care if they shave or take a bath. Them the
Speaker 1: kind of niggas I wanted. I didn't want to Nigga
Speaker 1: win like we did. We slept on the studio floor.
Speaker 1: Niggas that that won't take a bath for three days.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna write this song. I'm gonna finish this song.
Speaker 1: And these days, man to me, excuse me, but it's
Speaker 1: it's just hard to find that drive. And dudes these
Speaker 1: days they want that ship overnight. They want to be like,
Speaker 1: oh I just got a record deal and they're gonna
Speaker 1: go buy Jerry on the second day, Like Nigga, We
Speaker 1: was in that motherfucker Jerry curl, dried out, breath stinking,
Speaker 1: and they smell like whatever the funk. We smell like
Speaker 1: two day old, what the fuck? But we're trying to
Speaker 1: get this this that word roll. Like Tupac come in
Speaker 1: there at my fucking manuty and quick and told me
Speaker 1: stories about like Tupac running both of the studios and
Speaker 1: ship like he'd coming there and funk with this beat
Speaker 1: Quick was doing, and then funk with the other producer. Man.
Speaker 1: I think it was Johnny one of them or dre
Speaker 1: track or whatever. He was going back and forth, and
Speaker 1: Quick said he had hit his cigarette and ship and smoked.
Speaker 1: Go take a break, but he will not leave that
Speaker 1: motherfucker because his work ethic was just something crazy, bro.
Speaker 1: And I just feel like, yeah, I feel like, if
Speaker 1: if dudes ain't giving me that energy, bro, I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna waste my money or my time to be trying
Speaker 1: to produce one of fucker's ain't hold people's hand. That's
Speaker 1: why I'm not really into like doing that whole thing, man.
Speaker 1: And I know it's some dope talent out there, but
Speaker 1: it's just that's just not my I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 1: for real, man. Digital Soapbox has a record label. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we got a record label. The actually got some little
Speaker 1: funding to a dog. And I would just rather go
Speaker 1: back and miss with the O G S like you
Speaker 1: missed with past like eight, because y'all gonna do what
Speaker 1: it takes, man, yea take we go going there. It's like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you, ain't nothing worse. I had an
Speaker 1: artist before man, and I'm not with the babysitting stuff.
Speaker 1: So I booke time. I booked time, and I go
Speaker 1: up there about like the time it's time. It is
Speaker 1: like from four to nine. I got a book from
Speaker 1: four to nine, so I let artists do their thing.
Speaker 1: I don't police nobody because obviously I signed you. I
Speaker 1: think you're doping up the handle business. I go up
Speaker 1: to the studio, man at six o'clock. Mine, you've been
Speaker 1: up there since four. I go up there. Studio reeks
Speaker 1: of marijuana bottles everywhere, and I'm like, okay, let me
Speaker 1: hear the music. I'm expecting my Beagle Press playing and
Speaker 1: I'm hear some incredible stuff. Oh, we ain't got started yet.
Speaker 1: We're getting the vibe. I said, what that vibe cut off?
Speaker 1: I said, man, you know what shut this ship down? Man?
Speaker 1: Never will do it again, man, because you know what
Speaker 1: you up here playing? Yeah. Man, See that's the one
Speaker 1: thing I miss about ship. Like to get you in
Speaker 1: there when the doors open. If it's game on and
Speaker 1: you wanted the players think you better be playing, You
Speaker 1: better be hooping, you better be rocking, you better be
Speaker 1: doing something, because we ain't wasting no bread there's too
Speaker 1: many other motherfucker's that's in the line that's trying to
Speaker 1: eat too. If you're not gonna eat while you with
Speaker 1: your turn, they can move out the way. And that's
Speaker 1: just that's just how I go. Man. Yeah, man, you know,
Speaker 1: so we can take a break real quick and we
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Speaker 1: So your first record deal was actually on Disney. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that ship was on Disney bro And that's what we
Speaker 1: gotta make a whole movie documentary on the first rapper
Speaker 1: on Disney and after me, they changed that ship to
Speaker 1: Hollywood Records, like they wanted to be in the rap game,
Speaker 1: but they didn't really want to, like the association, because like,
Speaker 1: why did y'all sign me and give me all this money?
Speaker 1: One thing they did they failed me. They laced me up,
Speaker 1: they kept my pockets right, they giving it a check
Speaker 1: just to shut me up sometimes because I'd be in
Speaker 1: there complained and this ship, it's like and Peter Returnal
Speaker 1: was the president at the time time. He's the lawyer
Speaker 1: on Dr Dre ship right now. You know Dr Dre
Speaker 1: and M and them. I think he had something to
Speaker 1: do with the dre Beast deal. You know, Peter turn
Speaker 1: of course. Yeah, so heavyweight. Hell yeah, Michael Eisner at
Speaker 1: the time was over everything. So I'm like, they signed,
Speaker 1: you know, they know where we come from. Quick was
Speaker 1: doing his deal that Profile second, and I was doing Profile.
Speaker 1: I think AMG was doing Select. I think it was
Speaker 1: Select Records or whatever. It's the beauty of it. We
Speaker 1: all had our own individual deals, but we was already
Speaker 1: like Votron, we was already clicked up. But everybody to
Speaker 1: get their individual back and none of them pockets was
Speaker 1: deeper than that Disney ship. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, no, I mean, boy, the fucked up some
Speaker 1: good money. Just you talk about Disney Man. So at
Speaker 1: that time, I'm pretty sure they wanted to kind of
Speaker 1: censor a lot of your material. Yeah, they wanted everything
Speaker 1: to be kind of clean. Yeah, that's exactly what they wanted.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Because you didn't hear a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of Kurt your earlier records. I mean, it
Speaker 1: was a bunch of cursing on my records. That's kind
Speaker 1: of what we like. We'll make jokes sometimes now, like
Speaker 1: well compared to today, in comparison to what they doing
Speaker 1: to day, it was kind of lightweight back then. I
Speaker 1: won't say. I won't say it was lightweight, but I'll
Speaker 1: say if it was different, but that it was different.
Speaker 1: It was different, It was different stuff. Yeah, we was
Speaker 1: more like street party, let's have some fun, let's hit
Speaker 1: the street, let's you know, party turn up or whatever.
Speaker 1: And they still do the same ship today, but it's
Speaker 1: just in a different way, you know. Yeah, you sold
Speaker 1: a lot of records with this hell. Yeah, and that's
Speaker 1: when they wasn't really tracking ship, you know, like sound
Speaker 1: scan wasn't really That's when they was the bootleg ship
Speaker 1: was heavy. So a lot of this ship was bootleg.
Speaker 1: But yeah, we did good with him. Yeah, because I
Speaker 1: think you would sound scanning something like three hundred thousand copies, Yeah,
Speaker 1: probably more so you figured efficiently. Now, Yeah, if you
Speaker 1: signed scanning three hundred something body across, you probably sold
Speaker 1: back in that time people on this and how big
Speaker 1: the bootleg and stuff with you might have sold six
Speaker 1: seven thousand, Oh yeah, for sure. Definitely. That's to me,
Speaker 1: that was easy. And I love the fact that Disney
Speaker 1: put me in like like the soundtracks of and seeing
Speaker 1: a man. Certain movies that I was working with, like
Speaker 1: South Center, like certain movies I had action to, like
Speaker 1: getting in and putting my music in these these movies
Speaker 1: and soundtracks and stuff like that, because of course it
Speaker 1: was Disney, but they'll link me up a certain stuff.
Speaker 1: And then you know, I was getting breaks like like
Speaker 1: the Chris Rock ship, the cbfour movie. Yea doing a rapping,
Speaker 1: me doing a rapping, and Daddy, I was doing a
Speaker 1: rapping from step to sonic from doing the other part
Speaker 1: of this ship. Yeah, straight out of low Cash and
Speaker 1: all that swept for my balls and shout out to
Speaker 1: Chris Rock right now. You know he hot right now
Speaker 1: because all that controversial ship. But um, and then I
Speaker 1: did another soundtrack for Chris Rock on that head of State.
Speaker 1: I think it was called some movie or something. I
Speaker 1: put one of my ships in there. So when I
Speaker 1: catch up with Chris Man, we got a holler. Bro. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure, you did a lot of pivotal stuff. Let
Speaker 1: me ask you this man, this during the time. Man,
Speaker 1: we're talking about the eighties right now, and in the
Speaker 1: eighties it was just a whole another level as far
Speaker 1: as gangsterism and the streets people was really gang banging,
Speaker 1: and Quick was one of the first correct me if
Speaker 1: I'm wrong. Quick was one of the first people to
Speaker 1: really start kind of like banging the wax a little
Speaker 1: bit because he would throw a little stuff in there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he would throw a little subliminal stuff in the records
Speaker 1: and kind of let you know what it is. You
Speaker 1: know on the mixtapes, you know, Ship the tape, you know,
Speaker 1: the hood tape. So he just you know, we just
Speaker 1: let it be known. And then after that it was
Speaker 1: becoming kind of like, you know, the dudes that was
Speaker 1: kind of stepping up because back then it ain't gonna
Speaker 1: lie bro. It was just kind of hard to just
Speaker 1: really get out there and just kind of put yourself
Speaker 1: on the front line like that because it was really
Speaker 1: like motherfucker's that will come and test your ship, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So you do ship nowadays, and
Speaker 1: it's still bad, don't get me wrong, but it's not
Speaker 1: cameras everywhere back then like it is today. You can't
Speaker 1: sucking sneeze or take a leak on the side of
Speaker 1: a building without the motherfucker filming you now. But back
Speaker 1: then and then it comes slide on you and do whatever,
Speaker 1: and they don't know who did it until you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like some of the greatest rappers alive,
Speaker 1: they still don't. You know, it's unsolved. But right now,
Speaker 1: dudes got cameras everywhere, they're actually doing ship on camera.
Speaker 1: That's why I don't really rock with the social media
Speaker 1: shipped too much, like taunting motherfucker's on cameras and motherfucker's
Speaker 1: running up on people trying to get points and cloud
Speaker 1: are doing the get shipped to people on camera. That's
Speaker 1: just not my lane. I don't feel it. But if
Speaker 1: that's what niggas do, I respect that. But it was
Speaker 1: just different back then, bro. So when you said some ship,
Speaker 1: you had to really stand on some ship. It wouldn't
Speaker 1: like now because, um I see a lot of people
Speaker 1: that claim they pie rouse their bloods and this and
Speaker 1: crips and they're not necessarily really like that and they
Speaker 1: can kind of get away with it. But back then,
Speaker 1: you really had to stand on. You had to be
Speaker 1: a man and where the read yeah, hell yeah, you
Speaker 1: have to especially being a blood Hell yeah, you already
Speaker 1: know back then because y'all plush, y'all king in the
Speaker 1: time that where everybody has seemed like was crips at
Speaker 1: the time. That's hey, the family back back and you
Speaker 1: know I had family. I got family out of town
Speaker 1: from the South and ship and they used to be
Speaker 1: concerned about me and ship because they heard I was
Speaker 1: running in the streets and they was like, you're not
Speaker 1: You're not running, You're not. Uh. They all they thought
Speaker 1: it was crip. Mean, they thought krip mean everything. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, crip was the Mexican Games. Crip
Speaker 1: was that they didn't know, you know, you're not you're
Speaker 1: not what you're not doing the crypt now like now
Speaker 1: the what were doing. But they didn't understand it. This ship,
Speaker 1: but it was it was it was hard back then
Speaker 1: to be you know. Now, did y'all ever have any
Speaker 1: conflict with that, like because people know him, y'all it
Speaker 1: was part rouge time. Yeah, you best God there right,
Speaker 1: let's talk about it. Man. We was the only one.
Speaker 1: We was like the first ones to come out and
Speaker 1: just they knew we wasn't you know, like they heard
Speaker 1: a lot of the ship and what we was dressed
Speaker 1: like and what we was wearing. They know we wasn't
Speaker 1: you know, we wasn't no crips. They know exactly what
Speaker 1: was going on. And it was like dudes that that,
Speaker 1: like you said, the dudes from out of town that
Speaker 1: probably heard somebody to say something. And then you have
Speaker 1: some real niggas, Like I mean, it was one of
Speaker 1: those things I think, if I'm not mistaken, we was
Speaker 1: kind of like the first ones from from that side
Speaker 1: to really go out and tour and people be known like, okay,
Speaker 1: them niggas is dogs and you know the other niggas.
Speaker 1: Looks like we were just torn, toring torn and everywhere
Speaker 1: we go where some other. Back then before all the ship,
Speaker 1: all the ship got twisted up. Norm all the bloods
Speaker 1: have respect for each other, loved each other. It used
Speaker 1: to be a thing where dudes and say blood love
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And it was like I
Speaker 1: can go to San Diego, pull up on the dog
Speaker 1: and just share break bread or whatever. I can go
Speaker 1: from anywhere and it was like, come on, blood, let's
Speaker 1: you know who. It was cool, like, man, the nigga
Speaker 1: gout for you. But now they beet with each other
Speaker 1: something terrible. I remember at that time, man, I remember
Speaker 1: at that time that bloods would look out for bloods
Speaker 1: and crips would look out for crips, and now it's
Speaker 1: the thing man that wears more bloods killing bloods now,
Speaker 1: and there's more crips killing crips. What do you think man?
Speaker 1: Being one of them dudes that was that's really a
Speaker 1: veteran of the streets. A lot of people don't never
Speaker 1: bring your name up. But she was a real gangster.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You're a real gangster, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It was a real gangster. Of course,
Speaker 1: we've grown men now, got children and you know, responsibilities
Speaker 1: and stuff. So ain't nobody running the streets like they was.
Speaker 1: But during that time, have you ever had an incident
Speaker 1: on the road where you really thought it was gonna
Speaker 1: go down? Man, we had a whole bunch of fucking
Speaker 1: incidents like that ship quick talking about in the record,
Speaker 1: just Liketen like being shot at this ship coming out
Speaker 1: the back of the show, and the dude like, just
Speaker 1: for instance, one night we're doing the show and I've
Speaker 1: seen the dude had on this green never forgive a
Speaker 1: color you had on green? With his change this ship
Speaker 1: he was doing this thing or whatever. Then he was
Speaker 1: in the show and joined the show singing our ship
Speaker 1: and I think that was San Antonio. I'm not if
Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken. Dude party and they had a couple
Speaker 1: of his homies with him. I don't remember who exactly
Speaker 1: was with him, but long story short, bro, we came
Speaker 1: out and dude was laid out man shotting the dome
Speaker 1: like somebody got him and domed him out there, and
Speaker 1: he was like damn. And then we was trying to
Speaker 1: get out the building. Some motherfuckers started shooting at us.
Speaker 1: We had to throw the vest on quick and some
Speaker 1: of our our team was with us security and ship
Speaker 1: and homies and start shooting back at them. And we
Speaker 1: got in the van. We had EMC Breed with his
Speaker 1: man and EMC Breed manager was like, what the funk
Speaker 1: going on? Y'all? This ship is real. This dude jumped here.
Speaker 1: I think he had on a white suit. He jumped
Speaker 1: on the ground and was laying under a van and
Speaker 1: got up. I was like, man, y'all, motherfucker's crazy this
Speaker 1: And then we was like, man, this this kind of high.
Speaker 1: Go homie, when you're pushing this line, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, And not that we was pushing in the
Speaker 1: line like that of banging on niggas, but they just
Speaker 1: knew where we was from, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: So it was just made it a little bit harder. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's talk about this. And ironically, I wish I had
Speaker 1: the homie up here today. You know, eight was from Tragnew.
Speaker 1: Eight was from Tragnew. Y'all from Tree Top, y'all local
Speaker 1: to each other. You're both from Compton. When the beef
Speaker 1: started with him and quick, how intense did that get
Speaker 1: for the whole camp? Man? To be honest, it was
Speaker 1: one of those things to where, man, I don't even
Speaker 1: know like how the ship kind of really got kicked off,
Speaker 1: But it was one of those things to where it
Speaker 1: didn't really it wasn't no different from the regular day
Speaker 1: to day ship with us, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: because that's what we used to think about Compton, man,
Speaker 1: And you know, Norman, because you haven't been out there
Speaker 1: with us a million times. And ship Compton got so
Speaker 1: many goddamned hoods. It's not that big, and it's it's
Speaker 1: overflowed with hoods and congested with different hoods. If you
Speaker 1: go on this side of the street, you in this hood.
Speaker 1: If you go down this way, you and this head.
Speaker 1: So we kind of just kept it pushing. It was
Speaker 1: just everyday protocol for us. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: until we run into somebody. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: You know that ship though we ain't really we ain't
Speaker 1: losing no sleep. I'm sure they ain't losing no sleep.
Speaker 1: But if you run into him, we're gonna address the situation,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, Hey, what's happening. And
Speaker 1: then when we saw him in the airport and ship,
Speaker 1: I thought it was cool, Like Quick said, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, we've seen him and the nigga was
Speaker 1: on some big boy ship and I wasn't even gonna
Speaker 1: let it go down like that. We was. It was
Speaker 1: a few of us, and I think he was by
Speaker 1: itself for somebody with one person. And then he didn't
Speaker 1: rush him or nothing like that, because we don't do
Speaker 1: that ship. You know what I'm saying. It's like, if
Speaker 1: you want to take the faith, and then can take
Speaker 1: the faith if that's what you want to do right now.
Speaker 1: But they talked or whatever, exchange numbers and I think
Speaker 1: he changed his number and that's what kind of made
Speaker 1: Quick even matter, Like you know, what I'm saying, like
Speaker 1: we're supposed to be like when he said, you change
Speaker 1: a little deeper number. Back then niggas had pages, so
Speaker 1: he kind of changed his number. I think that's what happened.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure though. And the thing is, man, those
Speaker 1: sixty ways since usually be so tuchi that he might
Speaker 1: not have changed his number being on some stuff. It
Speaker 1: might not have had number because I changed my number
Speaker 1: all the time, That's what I'm saying. So you never
Speaker 1: knew what the fun. You know, we don't know what
Speaker 1: the fun is going on. But at that time, it's
Speaker 1: like motherfucker's young, full of testosterone. You know, we want
Speaker 1: to be the king of the hill, just like they
Speaker 1: want to be the king of the hill. Niggas know
Speaker 1: he had crept, they know we from where we're from
Speaker 1: or whatever. So it's it's like that tension. Everybody already
Speaker 1: looking at it like, Okay, you know, I'm motherfucker at
Speaker 1: at school. When you see a motherucker about the fight,
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, motherfucker's like they're doing all this ship,
Speaker 1: like let's see what the like. Motherfucker's just wanted to
Speaker 1: see what was gonna happen to me? And it was
Speaker 1: like no difference from like every dayhood ship. You know,
Speaker 1: yeah for sure, and that's what goes on. The one
Speaker 1: thing I do want to say, Eight has always let
Speaker 1: it be known I see my nigga, you know, chill
Speaker 1: to shout out chill. Yeah, you know, there's some good cats, man.
Speaker 1: And that one thing I do think is cool is
Speaker 1: that that stuff did get resolved. And I'm still waiting
Speaker 1: to hear that eight and DJ Quick album. Man, that
Speaker 1: that collaboration, you know what I mean. I think it
Speaker 1: would be dope. I think would be dope, and I
Speaker 1: think right about now it's something that we definitely could
Speaker 1: make happen. I think the world is still ready for that.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, you know, I think the world is still
Speaker 1: ready for that. And they also also here they also
Speaker 1: ready to hear some new music from High See. Why
Speaker 1: do you wait so long in between songs man to
Speaker 1: put our projects? Man? You know what, like we do
Speaker 1: songs man, and at the time of the ship, just
Speaker 1: be right, I could play some ship right now. We
Speaker 1: got that. Ain't nobody heard a few things that ain't
Speaker 1: nobody heard that. People will be like, man, what the
Speaker 1: funk you doing? It's dope, ist fucking this and this
Speaker 1: and that, and sometimes we just work on ship and
Speaker 1: just put it to the side or never come out
Speaker 1: and start working on some new ship. Like you know,
Speaker 1: you know how the good ship you've been in the studio. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: you know what what's funny man about that is like
Speaker 1: when we put let Me Know out that really it
Speaker 1: was four years old already, and the music is so good.
Speaker 1: It's timeless. It doesn't have no time stamps on or
Speaker 1: nothing like that, to where you can hear one of
Speaker 1: your records four years from now and it still sounds
Speaker 1: current and not believe that's because you guys are such
Speaker 1: great musicians. It's music and it's not tied into no trendy.
Speaker 1: Ship is not tied into no stuff that's going on.
Speaker 1: It's like you guys always recreating your own thing. That's man,
Speaker 1: we do, man, And that that record, that particular record
Speaker 1: you're talking about. Man, we were sitting in a quick
Speaker 1: living room and just sucking around. This Nick in his
Speaker 1: boxers and we're over there just fucking around with some ship.
Speaker 1: He's comfortable, we at the house chilling, and we just
Speaker 1: started sucking around. And everybody hear that song and be like, man,
Speaker 1: is that a sample offer, you know, is it Rogers
Speaker 1: that you know they think is a Zapp or somebody
Speaker 1: or you know, Roger Troutman or whatever the funk they
Speaker 1: think it is. But no, this is some ship that
Speaker 1: I think it did like straight, you know, just genius
Speaker 1: thinking and this me coming up with the hooks or
Speaker 1: whatever and ideas. That's one thing I love about the Click.
Speaker 1: We always threw ship at each other lines, hooks, choruses,
Speaker 1: you know, like when you're a groupy like man, I
Speaker 1: don't know, try to say this or do this or
Speaker 1: what you think about that? Like, no, we ain't doing
Speaker 1: that like that, you know what I'm saying that It
Speaker 1: was just always that good like camaraderie, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like just team effort of putting out some
Speaker 1: good ship. Yeah, for sure. And I don't think when
Speaker 1: people mention top producers. A lot of people on the
Speaker 1: West always mention Quick's name and they top five. But
Speaker 1: a lot of people outside the West they always named
Speaker 1: Dr Dre and you know a few other people. But
Speaker 1: Quick as as Quick is not just a great producer,
Speaker 1: he's also a great engineer, also a great song writer.
Speaker 1: He does everything well. Everything He does everything well because
Speaker 1: a lot of hooks, y'all having on records to beat
Speaker 1: him singing. A lot of people don't know. They don't
Speaker 1: know NIGGI gets saying like the old Rigard prior said,
Speaker 1: and they have to saying to get some puzzy. So
Speaker 1: I want to ask you about a few people in
Speaker 1: the crew. Man, Um, how did Masburg rest in peace?
Speaker 1: Coming to the Fold? I want to hear the whole story. Man,
Speaker 1: Moss bird Man, Baby bird Man. That's that's man, that's
Speaker 1: my dude. I missed Masburg. Massburg came into the fold.
Speaker 1: Black Tone had the shop, the baseball car store. You
Speaker 1: know Black always keep a couple of businesses here. He
Speaker 1: had the beauty salon this story. You know, Black always
Speaker 1: getting that check. So um, he came up there and
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was one of the homies
Speaker 1: from Campanello, somebody brought him up there or whatever. And
Speaker 1: he had a little demo, man, and I never forget
Speaker 1: it was off of Michael Jackson. The doe dude did
Speaker 1: the doe dude? Dude? What is that with? Uh? Smooth criminal?
Speaker 1: You yep, smooth criminal. And he did a song off
Speaker 1: of that, and you you gotta know Mossberg is like
Speaker 1: six five normal, what was the six four and six
Speaker 1: five ship to ninety but almost then the three and
Speaker 1: big boy, you know what I'm saying, Like big intimidating,
Speaker 1: like but young though, and he was like and serious
Speaker 1: as fun, and I just like how he was serious.
Speaker 1: And he went by Johnny Burnt, like Johnny Burns and
Speaker 1: he had this song some something, Mr Johnny Burns is
Speaker 1: the real list this then the like he just changed
Speaker 1: it all up, and I was kind of like, man,
Speaker 1: this niked man. He I funk with him because out
Speaker 1: of all the ship you could have sampled what you did.
Speaker 1: He took Michael Jackson and did the ship off of
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson, but looking like serious, like yeah I did
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson. I saw Mallsburg was like, yeah I did
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson. What's up? And the nick ain't gonna say
Speaker 1: that to him ship? Like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like because that nigga is bought his ship, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And I kind of used to smirking
Speaker 1: like did Michael Jackson. But Mallsburg was hard as fun,
Speaker 1: so we kind of I just I took a liking
Speaker 1: to him. Since then I love him, like man, he
Speaker 1: was like down to like say, you know, because I'm
Speaker 1: the type of nigguy. I like Michael Jackson too, Like, uh,
Speaker 1: my cousin and his girlfriend got in my car, one
Speaker 1: of my cars and ship. You know, I do the
Speaker 1: car shipped too, So I got a car business or whatever.
Speaker 1: I got my own dealership like ship, so I keep car.
Speaker 1: I'll be in all kinds of ships. So they got
Speaker 1: in one of my cars and I had a Michael
Speaker 1: Jackson CD in there, and they fell out laughing because
Speaker 1: they thinking like, oh, like crows ain't never listened to
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson. He's supposed to listen to. This was years ago,
Speaker 1: Like oh all you know hard Ship. I'm like, they
Speaker 1: go like, that's one of the best sounding albums, one
Speaker 1: of the best ever. Yeah, hell yeah. So I'm like
Speaker 1: the funk when I listening to Michael Jackson. So by
Speaker 1: Massy doing that, I was like, they could go head,
Speaker 1: let's see what you got. And then we just took
Speaker 1: him in and just grew a liking to him. Yeah
Speaker 1: for sure, And he got behind them quick beats in
Speaker 1: the rest man. That's yeah, that'ship history after that. But
Speaker 1: actually y'all did more songs together than anybody else, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: me and Massy did we We didn't do We didn't
Speaker 1: get a chance to do all of the song. Like
Speaker 1: I said, we got Ship that ain't even came out
Speaker 1: or whatever, and Ship, but we do so much Ship
Speaker 1: norm You're like, we get in there and just get
Speaker 1: the working bro, and then when Ship get divvied up,
Speaker 1: or we want to put this on this album, do
Speaker 1: this on that album? Like, um, Ship, that's how I go.
Speaker 1: Because he was on his way man, and then um,
Speaker 1: he was murdered on the fourth of July weekend? Correct
Speaker 1: ye and michaelrect How how did that impact the whole camp?
Speaker 1: If fucked everybody up? Bro? Until this day, until this day,
Speaker 1: I really don't go nowhere on the fourth of July.
Speaker 1: I can't get the ship out of my head. Like
Speaker 1: it's I don't even like to go nowhere on the
Speaker 1: fourth Bro, y'all Remember when it was fourth of July
Speaker 1: and I started running with y'all? Remember Black Tone and
Speaker 1: called me and said, hey, where are you at. You said,
Speaker 1: I'm at the crib. He said you should probably stay there,
Speaker 1: and he said, don't go nowhere on the fourth. To
Speaker 1: this day, I don't think none of y'all going nowhere
Speaker 1: on the fourth of July. Yeah, but I just don't
Speaker 1: my my spirit be down. I don't know, it's just
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. I like the Independence Day and
Speaker 1: like the kids and ships. Some of them don't even
Speaker 1: know the back story, they too young or whatever, but
Speaker 1: it's still bothered me to this day. Man. And if
Speaker 1: I come out on the fourth, it's a rare occasion
Speaker 1: that I come out on the four. I just like
Speaker 1: the chill, you know, because you a l A and
Speaker 1: ship and this with us. It could be fireworks and
Speaker 1: then it could be it could be a blammber. It
Speaker 1: could be anything. You know what I'm saying. It could
Speaker 1: be a grenade. Niggas out here be OsO bullshit, So
Speaker 1: it could be. You don't know what the funk going
Speaker 1: on now? Who came in? Sugar Free came in before
Speaker 1: Masbro right, Yeah, Free came in before Mosburg. That's the
Speaker 1: one I want to know. How did y'all discovered sugar free?
Speaker 1: Who discovered sugar free? Man? I'm gonna tell you, Like this,
Speaker 1: Black Tone has sugar free and sugar Free had a
Speaker 1: sugar Free? Was Royal Rock or the Pure Pimp and
Speaker 1: he had, uh man, I can't think of my boy
Speaker 1: that was producing, but it was Tones, uh Tone people
Speaker 1: was producing. He had a different producer and just to
Speaker 1: be real, like Black and Quick wasn't really speaking at
Speaker 1: the time, wasn't seeing eye the eye or whatever. And
Speaker 1: I got that Black. I'm like, man, I like sugar
Speaker 1: Free and he was like yeah, this and this and that.
Speaker 1: So Tone did a couple of songs. Don't even he
Speaker 1: was working on ship and um, you know, like Tone,
Speaker 1: we all from the same neighborhood or whatever. So I
Speaker 1: was going back too quick and I was like, man, Quick,
Speaker 1: you need to hear this ship, this sugar Free ship,
Speaker 1: and I don't. He heard it and he was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: that sound kind of cool. It reminds me of like
Speaker 1: like the Homie, you know, like Earl Ship like forty
Speaker 1: and he was like, yeah, I got that vibe. He
Speaker 1: was like. I was like yeah, it's like, no, you
Speaker 1: really need to hear this naked get down and seen.
Speaker 1: So not trying to take the credit to my own horn,
Speaker 1: but I got the niggas kind of like squash. The
Speaker 1: differences of a settled without Quick end up coming to
Speaker 1: the Black Tone Mom's house, in Compton and start working
Speaker 1: on free Ship. Right there. The niggas got a vibe
Speaker 1: and it just kind of took off ever since. Then
Speaker 1: changed his name to Sugar Free. And I told the
Speaker 1: story before though about to get your money while you bush.
Speaker 1: And I was done in my studio in North Hollywood
Speaker 1: and ship Quick was in my shower. He said, he
Speaker 1: was in my shower and he heard my pipes. You know,
Speaker 1: the pipes when you're trying to off, they go cuck cuckoo.
Speaker 1: And he said, the pipes was going clo clo, cuck
Speaker 1: clu cuck cuck cuck clu cu cu cu cucko. The
Speaker 1: nikka hopped out of my shower. And you know, I
Speaker 1: got showers and a couple of showers in the spot
Speaker 1: or whatever. Sw I'm in my ship just doing me
Speaker 1: or whatever, and I got equipment everywhere so we can
Speaker 1: just get up and rock. Because I kept the North
Speaker 1: Hollywood studio spot some otherfucker's I'll contact where I lay
Speaker 1: my head at with my family and how you know,
Speaker 1: you know that ship, I won't know everybody you know
Speaker 1: and there, so I kept that ship up there like that,
Speaker 1: Quick jump out the shower, bloom boo bloom bloom bloom
Speaker 1: boom bloom bloom bloom bloom bloom bloom boom bloom boom boom.
Speaker 1: And when he started working with that ship, bro I said,
Speaker 1: God damn almost funked up now because I told quick.
Speaker 1: I was like, nigga, don't get that ship to nobody.
Speaker 1: That's your new ship. You're back. You know, this is
Speaker 1: the new you're back on. And he was just rocking
Speaker 1: with you know, quicker, go for a beat. You here
Speaker 1: that my fucking rocket for forty eight dollars straight like,
Speaker 1: and then again I'm just bobbing my head to it
Speaker 1: like this ship. It's hard like this the ship. So
Speaker 1: the nigger free came over and he said, some ship
Speaker 1: a couple of lines, take times out of pimp you
Speaker 1: a house and you still won't know you want overuse.
Speaker 1: But man, this nigga starts saying this ship me and
Speaker 1: quickly like that at each other, like hell no, this
Speaker 1: this niked beat like to this day, right off the
Speaker 1: record in the club today it's still goes off like
Speaker 1: it's like it's back in the nineties. Yep, it still
Speaker 1: goes off. So y'all got all this stuff going on, man,
Speaker 1: And and that that, and I think that's a big
Speaker 1: thing A lot of fans want to know. And I say,
Speaker 1: week as I was around doing them times, we could
Speaker 1: have had one of the most powerful cruise of all
Speaker 1: the time was everybody was on dog. Hell yeah, we
Speaker 1: still can. And all ninas had to do is put
Speaker 1: their differences to the side and just power up and
Speaker 1: just do the ship like it's easy to do ship
Speaker 1: when you're doing it with a crew and you ain't
Speaker 1: got a late three verses on your song, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, you recording on him? You know this
Speaker 1: ship Still if I got to do three verses, I
Speaker 1: got to sit there and write three verses to a song.
Speaker 1: But if I'm doing a song like I put you
Speaker 1: on my album, I'm gonna do the first verse, Big
Speaker 1: still gonna do the second one, and Free or Quick
Speaker 1: might do to you know what I'm saying, the second
Speaker 1: to none and AMG might come and do this and
Speaker 1: it makes the ship easier. And then like I said,
Speaker 1: we get the exchange ideas and bounce it off of
Speaker 1: each other and ship like we always do. Because at
Speaker 1: one time, I know, at one time Quick was doing
Speaker 1: some stuff with death Row because he had this situation
Speaker 1: with Priority Records. Profile. Yeah, it was a profile. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was a profile, and I think he was making
Speaker 1: a transition from profile to airs to something like that,
Speaker 1: and they weren't letting him release no music. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was something going on. I ain't gonna sit in here
Speaker 1: in a line about it. I don't remember exactly what
Speaker 1: was going on, but it was a transition between profile
Speaker 1: and then ARISTI with Claude Davis. He was, you know,
Speaker 1: because I know what I was gonna ask about this.
Speaker 1: He was doing a lot of stuff with death Row
Speaker 1: at that time. For sure, he was doing some stuff
Speaker 1: with death Row. And I know we speak on it,
Speaker 1: or we cannot speak on it, but you know, this
Speaker 1: was the Gangster Chronicles. We got to ask about it
Speaker 1: at one time. And I ain't gonna say what it
Speaker 1: was behind everything, but one time y'all wound up outside
Speaker 1: the gates of death Row Records, and it was because
Speaker 1: of you that didn't go down. You saw somebody knew
Speaker 1: you and they was like craw with the hill going on,
Speaker 1: and y'all was cool. But she was the reason why
Speaker 1: it didn't really go as bad as it could have.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say part of the reason why But you know,
Speaker 1: when we went up there, man, it was just a
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of fucking like tempers was flaring
Speaker 1: and and honestly, man, we went up there and it
Speaker 1: was like it was one of those things to where
Speaker 1: like if it if it would have been like a
Speaker 1: car backfiring or anything like a nigga would have shot
Speaker 1: of firework off the ship that went real left Norman.
Speaker 1: She could have went bad home because Niggas was up
Speaker 1: there strapped up. Niggas is up there. And then we
Speaker 1: found out later though I heard I don't know if
Speaker 1: that's true, but some niggas is on the roof, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Else So we was on the
Speaker 1: outside of the gate, you know, black Tone for sure.
Speaker 1: A couple of the homies. I don't even want to
Speaker 1: get on, you know if they But we was out
Speaker 1: there with the with the hoovers with the groove. The
Speaker 1: groove was with us on our side, and then we
Speaker 1: was looking on the other side of the gate and
Speaker 1: it was some of the homies too. So when the
Speaker 1: homies see me, he was like, man, what's up? Man?
Speaker 1: He said, Man, I'm up here and I don't even
Speaker 1: know what the fun going on. They just called me
Speaker 1: and I said, yeah, Ship, we just got the call
Speaker 1: to like, you know what I'm saying. You know, wh
Speaker 1: niggas get that call. So we're like we're there and
Speaker 1: ship and um man, dude, Like I don't know. It
Speaker 1: was just one of the things to like, like, bro,
Speaker 1: we we're the same type of niggas, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, So we're not gonna be pressed. We're not
Speaker 1: trying to press, but we're the same type of motherfucker.
Speaker 1: So we wanted to see what's happening, Like what's good
Speaker 1: is the niggas Do we have to squabble up? Because
Speaker 1: I'm looking for the nigg of my size, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm there. I'm probably like one of the shortest
Speaker 1: niggas there. I'm like, okay, I'm gonna get down with him.
Speaker 1: I remember one of the homies from the Groove, uh,
Speaker 1: I think his name was Boom. He wanted to get
Speaker 1: down with Bounchy because then nigga about the same size.
Speaker 1: And I just like how the ship was going far
Speaker 1: as that aspect of it, Like it wasn't know, like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm looking for the weakest link or I'm trying to
Speaker 1: pick on the little with nigger type of ship and
Speaker 1: and uh niggas had you know, strapped up ship and
Speaker 1: they and they waste bands and they. I mean, it
Speaker 1: could have got crazy, norm But Nigga is just really
Speaker 1: kind of knew, like, Okay, you you're working with some
Speaker 1: real niggas. They know we're some real niggas, and we're
Speaker 1: gonna let this ship. We're gonna figure this ship out
Speaker 1: and straightening out. And we end up getting that shipped straight, bro.
Speaker 1: But it could have went left it. That was. That
Speaker 1: was a real story. Like people talking about the ship online,
Speaker 1: but it was a real story. Like it was a
Speaker 1: real story. And you know, we ain't gotta mention the
Speaker 1: whole bunch of people's names and stuff like that, but
Speaker 1: I knew it could have went down. That was. That
Speaker 1: was a scary time. Oh yeah, for sure. And I'm
Speaker 1: talking about broad daylight man. And they were saying that
Speaker 1: the police was driving by and then motherfucker' wouldn't even stopped.
Speaker 1: They were scared, like they looked at the ship. It
Speaker 1: was like so it was just a big It was
Speaker 1: all out in the middle of the street like that.
Speaker 1: It was by the gates, you know, Wilshire it was
Speaker 1: by the gate. You know what the old death Row
Speaker 1: ship used to be. Yeah, because we used to go
Speaker 1: to death Row. Like Nigga's talk all the death Row ship.
Speaker 1: But if he wasn't going to the to the death
Speaker 1: Row that was on the train tracks that I think
Speaker 1: that was a Canamn or whatever studio. That was the
Speaker 1: Red Road. We haven't been all up through the motherfucker,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So and Nigga's weren't doing
Speaker 1: that back then. They wasn't really doing the death Row ship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: not know for the record, Tony should did it make peace?
Speaker 1: Eventually it was all good. Oh yeah, for sure, it
Speaker 1: was all good. And I'm gonna say this bro, And
Speaker 1: I never really said this ship on camera, But sug
Speaker 1: Is is a cool nigga bro. Like he one thing
Speaker 1: about ship. He will go straight in your situation out.
Speaker 1: He will go figure out what's going on. A good nigga.
Speaker 1: And like always, niggas used to be like hey man
Speaker 1: called fat Boy fat Boy, that's what you know, the
Speaker 1: little nickname, or niggas before they called him Simon or
Speaker 1: whatever because Simon said to do something that niggas to
Speaker 1: do it or whatever. But shug was always a cool
Speaker 1: like me and Shugar always had the best relationship because
Speaker 1: he big old nigg and he always said, what's up, littlenigga,
Speaker 1: Like like we was at the gate when the ship
Speaker 1: was about to go down. The nigga came out the
Speaker 1: gate that came to me and you know, tap me
Speaker 1: on the starting like I guess he was checking to
Speaker 1: see what kind of strapping or whatever. But what's up,
Speaker 1: little nigga? I was like, what, man, what's the going on?
Speaker 1: If you wis got all this ship going on from
Speaker 1: the same you know niggas homies and ship you know so,
Speaker 1: but he always been a good nigga. Now the thing
Speaker 1: is to me, just my this is just my opinion. Normal.
Speaker 1: If you borrow something from shig if you asking Ship
Speaker 1: for money, are you trying to come up on Shigar
Speaker 1: Are you trying to get it to me? If you
Speaker 1: asking for something, that that's when the ship get a
Speaker 1: little bit tricky, because Sugar is the type of saying, Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you, I'm gonna put you in the studio,
Speaker 1: or I'm gonna give you. You know, you need to
Speaker 1: you know, Ship, you need to go do this and
Speaker 1: this and that that might slide it to you. But
Speaker 1: the first he wanted his bread back, and the first
Speaker 1: time he called you and he said, hey, we're doing
Speaker 1: this uh Oprah Winfrey show and you need to come perform.
Speaker 1: Oh man, I'm I'm down in Uh my car ain't
Speaker 1: working and this and that all right? All right, blood,
Speaker 1: when you get up there again, you might get the
Speaker 1: ship slapped out of you might. Yeah, but I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: you're making the deal with the think of that. Ain't
Speaker 1: fucking around of playing those games, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: So you gotta definitely know what the deal is you're
Speaker 1: dealing with. Yeah, And that's just and I ain't necessarily
Speaker 1: saying borrow money, but I'm just saying, if you ask
Speaker 1: him for something and you yeah, he's gonna deliver, so
Speaker 1: he expects the same in return. Bro. And that's the
Speaker 1: only thing I've seen with that's just once again my
Speaker 1: assessment of it and ship. You know, I think that's
Speaker 1: most people's assessment from what I hear, because I'm hearing
Speaker 1: that anybody that did have a problem with Sugar, when
Speaker 1: you check the back story, they don't got money from him,
Speaker 1: they don't try to take advantage of them somehow, and
Speaker 1: he just wasn't going for oh not at all. And
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, the way the music in
Speaker 1: the three is designed, you need a sugar night and
Speaker 1: you need a Tony laying around. Yeah, And I want
Speaker 1: to touch on Black Tone a little bit because Tone
Speaker 1: don't never really get the credit he deserved as far
Speaker 1: as being an executive because at one time he had
Speaker 1: had his label on the streets. Hell yeah, and no
Speaker 1: I ain't. Once again, I'm doing the interview, but bro,
Speaker 1: I'm not too my own horn. But Tone was like
Speaker 1: more of a dude that was getting He had his
Speaker 1: own businesses in the eighties, Bro, like the car shops
Speaker 1: and all this ship. Tone do business like. He was
Speaker 1: a businessman in the beginning. But the Nigga street you know,
Speaker 1: Tone was like you know ship like they called him
Speaker 1: Osama being lad. That's that's black black hat businesses. He
Speaker 1: wasn't even thinking about the record ship. And I used
Speaker 1: to always tell him he was like raw man, funk
Speaker 1: this music. Man, I don't want to be dealing with
Speaker 1: all these weird you know, don't say everybody he's a
Speaker 1: buster as then you know that man ain't dealing with
Speaker 1: all these buster as, weird niggas and ship like the
Speaker 1: Man the niggas, and I'm like, Black, you got too
Speaker 1: much influence out here on these streets, Homey, you gotta
Speaker 1: do something. And He's like, man Crawf, I don't feel
Speaker 1: like dealing. I'm end up slapping the shoot out. You know.
Speaker 1: I'm blo. I'm gonna slap the shoot out of one
Speaker 1: of you. Keep up playing with me, I said, tone, No, bro,
Speaker 1: And I was the one that norm that I kept.
Speaker 1: I kept. I was in the nigga ear in the
Speaker 1: nigga ear. Well, that's why I'm asking you about the
Speaker 1: crow because for y'all to don't know out there, Craft
Speaker 1: should have been named the Fixer. A lot of situations
Speaker 1: that got resolved, a lot of situations that got fixed
Speaker 1: was him behind the scenes, really convincing somebody not to
Speaker 1: make that next move or to make that next move
Speaker 1: for show Man. And that's just how I am in
Speaker 1: my harbor. I'm I feel like, you know, piece the
Speaker 1: nigga by the ship. But if I can bring peace
Speaker 1: or squat some ship or just some stupid ship, did
Speaker 1: this nigga say something about your mama? No, didn't He
Speaker 1: can say nothing about your mama, knowing that the nigga did.
Speaker 1: I'm just that type of nigga that try to dare
Speaker 1: the ship for it escalate. But I was pushing the line, Black,
Speaker 1: you need to do this, do this. So he ended
Speaker 1: up just getting into the ship. That's how the Sugar
Speaker 1: Free you know, Wallsburg was it there for a time? Man?
Speaker 1: That um Lane Way and death Rog almost got linked
Speaker 1: up in any kind of way. Was there some talks
Speaker 1: to that um man? You know what, I like, like, uh,
Speaker 1: Black and Sugar you should talk, you know what is
Speaker 1: cool whatever? Black and Sugar used to talk. And I
Speaker 1: don't even know if I was I think Black told me.
Speaker 1: I don't even know if I remember the whole story,
Speaker 1: but Black told me I was kind of like one
Speaker 1: of the first ones to kind of get them to
Speaker 1: talk because we heard something. I forgot what should had
Speaker 1: of something? Black and I'm like, man, this should and
Speaker 1: he was like man who and this and this and
Speaker 1: that and knowing that his people stayed on the east
Speaker 1: side or whatever, and the twins and all that. I
Speaker 1: don't know how the ship win, but we always was
Speaker 1: in the mix with each other, and I think they
Speaker 1: used to talk about trying to do something together and
Speaker 1: and you know, like when you deal with two of
Speaker 1: the funders, that's just the juggernauts of the era. They're
Speaker 1: gonna respect each other like gentlemen. You know, real niggas
Speaker 1: moved like gentlemen, and ship don't be don't know all that,
Speaker 1: but I think they always had to think of like
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do my ship over here, this is my empire,
Speaker 1: and should had this empire already, And that's kind of
Speaker 1: how it always been. But I knew it was kind
Speaker 1: of probably some talks are like like should always be
Speaker 1: like man, bt you know, bet blood come over with me,
Speaker 1: understand ship and like, I don't know, but I know
Speaker 1: it was some talks, But I don't know if how
Speaker 1: far that ship was sometimes to the realist king sit
Speaker 1: in the same room, you know, some some sometimes it
Speaker 1: just don't happen like that, man, And I know it
Speaker 1: was a lot of success throughout the years. Man, what's
Speaker 1: the most what's the biggest moment that you remember? Man?
Speaker 1: Just music wise, from the whole crew, what's the biggest moment? Uh? Man,
Speaker 1: one of the biggest moments I could say that was
Speaker 1: like just to me, that was dope. Like it was
Speaker 1: just a moment, man, it was like, God damn this ship.
Speaker 1: It's like live when we did the Summer Jam or
Speaker 1: one of them, I think it was Summer Jam and
Speaker 1: the LDD bars came out. You've seen that footage, the
Speaker 1: old footage over and we was all out and that
Speaker 1: it was just like you looked to the back of
Speaker 1: the crow. You couldn't stop seeing motherfucker's. That's how many
Speaker 1: people was there where it was just waves and waves
Speaker 1: and waves of people. It was just waves and motherfucker's
Speaker 1: And it was like when they came out, they knew
Speaker 1: all of the high Sea Ship, they knew all of
Speaker 1: the Second and None ship, they knew all of the
Speaker 1: a MG ship. Of course, they knew all the quick ship.
Speaker 1: And then they didn't even think that the Nigga would
Speaker 1: bring out eld bars. And when the eld D bars
Speaker 1: came out, it was like, I swear I saw girls
Speaker 1: in the crowd naked. That's what I thought I saw.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie, was throwing their paintings on. Like
Speaker 1: this ship was crazy and it was like one of
Speaker 1: those moments to where and normally you know how I move, man,
Speaker 1: I'd be most of the time I'd be by myself
Speaker 1: or whatever. But I'm always humble and and I really
Speaker 1: feel like it's a blessing and then continue blessed and
Speaker 1: to be in the game like that, you know, to
Speaker 1: make it. I feel like I tell people sometimes it's
Speaker 1: like hitting the lotto, if you hit the lot of
Speaker 1: you and this ship. A lot of motherfucker's dope motherfucker's
Speaker 1: never made it for sure, never made it, Just like
Speaker 1: playing ball. The badest motherfucker's don't make it because the
Speaker 1: niggers probably can't read or they got to get a
Speaker 1: you know, some system that they made those and they've
Speaker 1: gotta have an A plus to be average or whatever,
Speaker 1: which to me don't want. Some people just don't want
Speaker 1: to buy by the bullshit, because whenever you're in music,
Speaker 1: sports there's a lot of bullshit. It is bro and
Speaker 1: to me sometimes I think it's the way to level
Speaker 1: the play and feel like why I got to be
Speaker 1: a scholar. If I know how to shoot this ball
Speaker 1: or I know how to you know, do Hooper write
Speaker 1: this song? I don't need to be getting no straight
Speaker 1: they I don't need to know rocket science to do
Speaker 1: this ship. You know what I mean, I do what
Speaker 1: I do good, and I don't be no fucking dummy
Speaker 1: and let people rip you off and take your money.
Speaker 1: But to me, it was like, okay, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: let him get this scholarship because he didn't carry this
Speaker 1: particular grade average, you get what I'm saying. But he
Speaker 1: dope as fucked. So now he comes to motherfucker with
Speaker 1: less talent might your white boy, It's like, okay, you
Speaker 1: can get this, you know, because you're you're a scholar
Speaker 1: or a student, but you can't boop like him. But hey,
Speaker 1: it's a spot for you, m So you know I
Speaker 1: should go. Man, Yeah for sure. You know. One of
Speaker 1: the things that we will say about black tone, you know,
Speaker 1: we gotta have the black people always talking about the
Speaker 1: negative that somebody do right, but black tone man, like
Speaker 1: I said, he got me my first check as far
Speaker 1: as my first place. Man, you got me my first
Speaker 1: piece of money, you know, like you know, coming to
Speaker 1: business and everything and taking me on the road and everything.
Speaker 1: And you know what they asked me about Noir, the
Speaker 1: Malibu is most wonted? Is that big steal in there
Speaker 1: when you was on the on the movie. Yeah you
Speaker 1: got me, Yeah, I went up there and Um, I
Speaker 1: never will forget that day. I went up there with
Speaker 1: you on some hanging out stuff. You was like norm
Speaker 1: with audition, and that's when they had to let's go
Speaker 1: in the room kind of battling each other. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: got to go in there, and I wanted to wash
Speaker 1: Chenie's ass, you know, because Chene was in there. He
Speaker 1: was talking about some being and I don't even remember
Speaker 1: Cheney being there shout out, that's my boy. Many was
Speaker 1: up there, man, you know, you know, thank god I
Speaker 1: wound up getting that feature. You know what I mean,
Speaker 1: you're in that moment. That was a nice look check
Speaker 1: at text that we're still getting to this day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we still get that check, you know, we still get them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: to this day, man, we get them checks. Man. It
Speaker 1: was a bunch of cats up there that day. That's
Speaker 1: how I am. Man. I if I can make some bread,
Speaker 1: I'm a break bread with tommies. That's how I'd be, like,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, for sure, man, And I want to
Speaker 1: go back because I think we got to talk about this. Man.
Speaker 1: Y'all linked up at the Rodium. That's for your first
Speaker 1: man's Yeah, when did y'all decide? When did y'all start
Speaker 1: making records together. Man, I'm gonna be honest. When I've
Speaker 1: seen Tony like start scratching and mixing, and he knew
Speaker 1: a ship because when you look at tone, it's like
Speaker 1: back especially back then, I'm like, I don't know if
Speaker 1: this motherfucking no, you know, like, do he really like
Speaker 1: you know how like we was young, you know, you're
Speaker 1: sizing my fuck up, just like this ship with the
Speaker 1: street ship, like you you can see how the nigga
Speaker 1: walk or how you move or how you how you act,
Speaker 1: Like Okay, this is this is real one rka cool.
Speaker 1: This ain't even affiliate like kind of like that. So
Speaker 1: I kind of just looked at him and I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't know if if I don't know if he
Speaker 1: really you know, got it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So the motherfucker start mixing and doing this little shit.
Speaker 1: I'm like, God damn, this is motherfucking though. And he
Speaker 1: knew how to blend records and he was scratching and
Speaker 1: ship and I'm like, oh, hell yeah, I'm gonna funk
Speaker 1: with him. And we just started recording. Man, and I
Speaker 1: went to Womanton went to his house, and it just
Speaker 1: took it from there. Man, we just kind of build
Speaker 1: a relationship. Yeah, So he was from a real because
Speaker 1: at that time Womanton was women want to be played with,
Speaker 1: you know women. So for Shure, like we was out
Speaker 1: there doing ship and we just took it from there. Bro.
Speaker 1: It was like he impressed me, bro, like with some
Speaker 1: of his mixing skills and like the ship he could
Speaker 1: do with scratching this and that, and then his producing
Speaker 1: and he just had a knowledge of ready to get
Speaker 1: all of like the like the oldie type of hits
Speaker 1: and ship. And I was kind of like the first
Speaker 1: one that because my thing is like I like to
Speaker 1: paint pictures and tell stories and ship like that. So
Speaker 1: he was the type that will find this like Okay,
Speaker 1: let's just do this or this and this will go
Speaker 1: good with that and just putting ship together on the
Speaker 1: mix tapes. And also like when that motherfucker was doing
Speaker 1: the mix tapes, that's when you know he got ice cube.
Speaker 1: I think to get down on one um dre easy,
Speaker 1: the one we do easy e uh. Like man, everybody
Speaker 1: like you said that was coming here looking for vinyl
Speaker 1: and ship like that. You know what crazy thing about
Speaker 1: that Crows is you always had a really really huge
Speaker 1: Mexican audience. Yeah, you know, like Parks said, it wouldn't
Speaker 1: be La without the Mexican So shut out to all
Speaker 1: the Mexican armies. This out there doing a thing, and
Speaker 1: I think something that was real genes that you did.
Speaker 1: You know Mexicans love the oldies. Yeah, they loved most
Speaker 1: cats loved. Yeah, what made you all decide the sample?
Speaker 1: I'm not your puppet man? Who who was that man?
Speaker 1: I think we started off doing that ship on the
Speaker 1: mix tape, and the reaction of the response that we
Speaker 1: got from that ship, from the mixtape version of it,
Speaker 1: it was like it was automatic. It was like we
Speaker 1: got to do this on the recording and go in
Speaker 1: the studio and do it professionally. And we did it
Speaker 1: at uh uh Audio Achievements. I think it was Donovan's student.
Speaker 1: We did n w A was doing and they had
Speaker 1: the top notchi equipment and I got to look at
Speaker 1: some of Dr Dre ship and seeing that Dre, I've
Speaker 1: seen what you was doing, Dre years ago. This nigger
Speaker 1: had and I could tell it now because I know
Speaker 1: drein even tripping away. He had an eight oh eight
Speaker 1: that was meetied up and if people don't understand, you
Speaker 1: don't understand, don't even think about it. But the mid
Speaker 1: cable to a fucking eight oh eight, and I'm like, this,
Speaker 1: dude is not playing like every time that eight oh
Speaker 1: eight hit, it's coming right out the machine. It was fresh.
Speaker 1: I'm that's how they should be sounded so cracking. But
Speaker 1: we went in there to record I'm Not Your Puppet
Speaker 1: and came out with that sound. That's why I sound
Speaker 1: like sonically clear and ship like that. It was like
Speaker 1: one of those records that that everybody was like, man,
Speaker 1: when it's coming out. We had to do it, so
Speaker 1: shot the video at the Rhodium. It was just automatic
Speaker 1: as dope. Dog. Do you think that's your biggest record
Speaker 1: to date? I think it is, bro, I really think
Speaker 1: it is. I really think that's, like, you know, one
Speaker 1: of the biggest records today that that I did. And
Speaker 1: just you know, all the features that we did on
Speaker 1: each other ship, Like on quick album we got Medley
Speaker 1: for a v like Snoop Me and Snoop was on
Speaker 1: the air and g like all of us the older
Speaker 1: bars like them records like people don't hardly know about.
Speaker 1: But I was just thinking about that the other day,
Speaker 1: like all the features that we did with different motherfucker's. Man,
Speaker 1: it's like we got so much ship. Bro, Yeah, we
Speaker 1: we definitely. Man, Well, I'm gonna do everybody. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go outside. I'm gonna go over Cross House one day
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna go in to vote y'all and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna steal all them songs he got that he don't
Speaker 1: want nobody to hear, because I'm gonna tell y'all he
Speaker 1: got some heaters in there. Man, for sure, Are we
Speaker 1: ever go get any more high seat music? Man? You
Speaker 1: know what I really be feeling like? You know when
Speaker 1: I get that inch norm you know how we are
Speaker 1: we gyminizing ship, get that itch man and that ship
Speaker 1: turned on and you get that creative juice, you just might. Man,
Speaker 1: that's one thing about You're not gonna put a record
Speaker 1: out before his time. And you just don't go on
Speaker 1: the studio for the sake of going to the studio.
Speaker 1: Hell no, because I ain't pressed like that. Like to me,
Speaker 1: when you're pressing and you're trying to do this, and
Speaker 1: you gimmicky and you want to do I gotta do this,
Speaker 1: or I gotta do that or or motherfucker's that try
Speaker 1: to bait motherfucker's into a battle and ship. I've never
Speaker 1: been that type of motherfucking Oh did he say something
Speaker 1: about me? Or did he? Was he dissing me? I
Speaker 1: gotta diss him, like all that old bullshit to me.
Speaker 1: And if that's how you live, don't get me wrong,
Speaker 1: that's more power to you. But I don't look around
Speaker 1: like that. I do it when that ship feel good
Speaker 1: and it feels natural, like let me get in here
Speaker 1: and this is it I feel like doing at the time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for real, man, And you've always been consistent with that too,
Speaker 1: always been consistent with that. I remember when I came
Speaker 1: with my first album and I like you. He was like, Norman,
Speaker 1: you've got one got one time to put your first record.
Speaker 1: You need to do this and that over again. I
Speaker 1: was mad, but I went back and you did, man,
Speaker 1: and I appreciate you for that. And I remember that
Speaker 1: ship like yesterday you called me, was like, I got
Speaker 1: ten songs, I'm ready. I'm like, norm, hold on, you're
Speaker 1: gonna do ten songs three times before you're gonna do
Speaker 1: ten songs five times. You're gonna have fifty of the
Speaker 1: motherfucker's before and then you called me back. Remember what
Speaker 1: you said? He was like, yeah, crawf right, because I
Speaker 1: don't even like that other ship. I did something. I'm like,
Speaker 1: you should hear this new ship, and I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: nor got some ship. Yeah I did, man. You know what,
Speaker 1: that's one of my biggest regrets. Dogs. I think when
Speaker 1: you're younger, you're getting the race for time, especially when
Speaker 1: you start hitting that twenty nine thirty year old mark.
Speaker 1: You get this kind of like thinking that I need
Speaker 1: to put this out before I get you old, because
Speaker 1: you know hip hop, man, it's a young man's game.
Speaker 1: It is. But now you've got brothers like Hole he
Speaker 1: fifty something, he's still out there tearing down microphone. You
Speaker 1: got the Whoop Tang class. They're still putting up music
Speaker 1: and you know some of them acting. I think it
Speaker 1: comes to a thing. Man, when you get older, you
Speaker 1: start expressing your creativity in different ways that because you
Speaker 1: the growth. Yeah, it's growth. It's like it's like I
Speaker 1: don't have no desire now to put out no records
Speaker 1: or nothing like that. Dude, I think this is my
Speaker 1: thing right now, like creating content. No, that's and you
Speaker 1: you're smashing this ship. No, I'm like, I tell everybody,
Speaker 1: man still got this ship cracking. But to me, no,
Speaker 1: let me let me just say this, or I ask
Speaker 1: you a question, like I understand why people retire in sports.
Speaker 1: So they want them to retire because your reflex is
Speaker 1: your quick twitch muscles and ship like that. You can lose,
Speaker 1: you know, you lose mobility, you get injured. You can
Speaker 1: fund yourself up in the in the music game, or
Speaker 1: or or the hip hop game, or any genre of music. Like,
Speaker 1: why do we have to retire because season now I'm
Speaker 1: gonna even say, oh that we veterans. My throat didn't
Speaker 1: get like, I still I speak well. I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm intell intelligent enough to make songs. I can do this.
Speaker 1: I can still create. So I ain't gotta go out
Speaker 1: here and jump or slam dunk or run no motherfucking
Speaker 1: uh for two in the forty or do whatever the
Speaker 1: fuck you know what I'm saying. So why do they
Speaker 1: put this label on us? It's hip hop? Like we
Speaker 1: got to do that. I know the attention span and
Speaker 1: the lifespan of some of the hip hop ship is short,
Speaker 1: but you look at that bands like the Stones or
Speaker 1: Chicago and motherfucker's love them. Bro, even answer it for
Speaker 1: you Cross right now. You know what I believe it is, Bro.
Speaker 1: I think it's something that within our people, our culture, right,
Speaker 1: Black people don't respect um. I'm trying to find the
Speaker 1: right word. They don't respect maturity almost because if you
Speaker 1: look at the average brother today that's online. You know,
Speaker 1: some of these guys online, these dudes anywhere from forty
Speaker 1: five years old acting like little kids. They acting like
Speaker 1: the nineteen eighteen year olds, um and and I almost
Speaker 1: think that's an insult to the younger generation because some
Speaker 1: of these people is more immature than my five year
Speaker 1: old niece. You know what I'm saying. They have like
Speaker 1: they act like on the level they almost like borderline.
Speaker 1: If you looked at him, you would say, Man, are
Speaker 1: these people retarded? Because that's just what they do. You've
Speaker 1: got a lot of people and I think us as
Speaker 1: Black people, man had always come back to the Willie
Speaker 1: Link stuff. We hate to see We hate to see
Speaker 1: the next man shine rather than applaud, you know, rather
Speaker 1: than applaud because theoretically, I think the older people get,
Speaker 1: the better they bars get. They've seen more, they've been
Speaker 1: around the world, you know, they've got more experience. So
Speaker 1: I think that's why. Now you can probably hear some
Speaker 1: of jay Z's best music. You hear some of what's
Speaker 1: that kid's name? Being the kid? But he older dude, Man,
Speaker 1: I think he was signed to brock Nation. Man, that
Speaker 1: dude is a beast. Though I can't think of his name.
Speaker 1: He only put out one album. But that dude is
Speaker 1: in his fifties. Man, he row looking sugar free, sugar
Speaker 1: free Damn Nick sugar Freed almost got a resurgence going
Speaker 1: now and sugar free in his fifties and he's nasty. Man.
Speaker 1: To me, it should always be about your music, man,
Speaker 1: you know, change change as that. If he ain't in
Speaker 1: his fifties, he's up there, And I think, man, what
Speaker 1: it is is that you just got to create a
Speaker 1: character like Snoop Dogg is probably the biggest rapper of
Speaker 1: all time brand wise. You know everybody knows Snoopy Snoop
Speaker 1: ain't no Spring Chicken. But he's going forever being able
Speaker 1: to go on stage and make music. I think because
Speaker 1: he's always stayed in character. I think that's all you
Speaker 1: gotta do is just stay in your character. Too short.
Speaker 1: I was listening to too short when I was sixteen
Speaker 1: and seventeen years old, too short still making the same
Speaker 1: music and might wrong to have a hit record on
Speaker 1: yours and short dog is dope, man, it's forty is
Speaker 1: the same way we was on the road with him
Speaker 1: when he was going out man and watching uh forty
Speaker 1: and short man like sing their songs and the whole
Speaker 1: crowd responding no word for word. And then I'm sitting
Speaker 1: up here looking at the forty his features and ship
Speaker 1: like he got all this ship at the time, and
Speaker 1: ship and all that. But then he jumped on the
Speaker 1: ship with I don't funk with you, like all this
Speaker 1: new ship, and it's like he touching both both worlds.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. The same thing was Short
Speaker 1: when he was doing the ship, but you know what
Speaker 1: he was doing, the collaborations and the features and ship
Speaker 1: like people funk with him like just off the rip, bro,
Speaker 1: Like it's crazy how they gravitate towards them dudes. Man, Well,
Speaker 1: I think what's happening now man, that you're getting the
Speaker 1: resurgence because you've got a lot of younger kids, the
Speaker 1: casts in their twenties, five years old, twenty six, They
Speaker 1: grew up listening to that that they grew up. So
Speaker 1: now they've got an opportunity to collab with one of
Speaker 1: their favorite artists. And I think that's how I was going.
Speaker 1: Because Forty Steele got barrows. You can't tell me he
Speaker 1: forty can't wrap no more because he years old or
Speaker 1: whatever's the time. I don't at that ship bro and
Speaker 1: a voice ain't slow down. My throat still good, And
Speaker 1: I think it should be a personal choice, man, because
Speaker 1: I still right wraps for a lot of people. I don't.
Speaker 1: You know. Of course, I can't just put it out
Speaker 1: there and say what else necessarily because you gotta keep
Speaker 1: stuff on the low. But I write a lot of stuff,
Speaker 1: and I'll actually write my dopest stuff. It's like because
Speaker 1: I've been more places of sound, experience more things, and
Speaker 1: I'm talking from a place of what I know versus
Speaker 1: when I was you know, when I was broke, I
Speaker 1: was talking about having money I've never seen. And now
Speaker 1: get a little bit me. You didn't went to Japan
Speaker 1: and ship together. You haven't been on the other side
Speaker 1: of the motherfucking O. For sure, have experienced some things
Speaker 1: that's gonna stay over thein't Japan? You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: don't talk about this ship. Nor we don't need to
Speaker 1: talk about dog. Some stuff we don't need to talk about.
Speaker 1: But I know Japan. The thing about Japan, man, is
Speaker 1: they treat you like you a guy over there. We
Speaker 1: went over there, man, they was treating Crawford like Crawford
Speaker 1: was getting treated like a king over there. Crazy and
Speaker 1: they like the second album I did. It was like
Speaker 1: really like one of the big albums over there that
Speaker 1: they funk with, and I appreciate it. I'm ready to
Speaker 1: go back now when you're already bro in China. You
Speaker 1: know China as well. China got some ship too, o
Speaker 1: for sure. But one of the things I'm gonna start doing, Bro,
Speaker 1: we gonna start doing over here digital Soapbox is we
Speaker 1: gotta streaming network coming to twenty four hour music channel
Speaker 1: that's coming out like um, I think we launched in September,
Speaker 1: late September, early October. One of the things we're doing,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be kind of like MTV was, but it's
Speaker 1: gonna be all hip hop, all hip hop and rap.
Speaker 1: You know, we gonna be showing our podcasts on that.
Speaker 1: We got original series we're doing. But one of the
Speaker 1: things that I am bringing back, man, is we gonna
Speaker 1: start shooting music videos to classic classic songs. We actually
Speaker 1: go go get artists, and we got a couple of
Speaker 1: people that's re recording classic albums like, um, we got
Speaker 1: eight He's gonna re record straight Up Menace, you know
Speaker 1: the album. He's gonna record the album. And Uh. One
Speaker 1: of the things we talked about doing was like taking
Speaker 1: a song like growing Up in the Hood that's a
Speaker 1: classic and putting scarface on there and shooting a whole
Speaker 1: new video for it and just bringing it to this
Speaker 1: whole new generation because a classic is gonna always be
Speaker 1: a classic. You don't matter time with this, bro, It's
Speaker 1: gonna always be climates. And one of the things I
Speaker 1: always gonna holid at you about is doing redoing one
Speaker 1: of your classic albums. That's easy, the same music, doing
Speaker 1: a thing, but just getting different features on their different look.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I think that would be dope. Man.
Speaker 1: That's easy to do because I got my own masses,
Speaker 1: you know, on the ship, So you know that's what
Speaker 1: I want to do. When you do that, I want
Speaker 1: to be the anchor on the on the video ship,
Speaker 1: you know. MTV used to have I forgot my man name.
Speaker 1: Used to be the anchor. He used to be on
Speaker 1: everything and be like this is the videos and tune in.
Speaker 1: Sure I got you his anchor on there. I've been
Speaker 1: telling you everything I'll do. You included in on bro man,
Speaker 1: let's rock. You know what I'm saying. And I appreciate
Speaker 1: you coming down and sit down will be the day dog.
Speaker 1: Y'all don't know this interview don't been a long time
Speaker 1: in the making. But Crawford really was a big busy guy.
Speaker 1: He's a busy got got a lot of business is
Speaker 1: going on. We got a car dealership, different stuff like that. Man,
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff going on. So y'all be on
Speaker 1: the lookout, man, because I'm gonna you know, he like
Speaker 1: to lock nest monster. He only come out of the
Speaker 1: water every few years. But I'm just trying to pull
Speaker 1: them out a little bit more. Yeah, I'm gonna come
Speaker 1: out a little bit more. And I'm working with me,
Speaker 1: no family, my loved ones. I can come out and
Speaker 1: be safe, you know, man, Yeah, for sure, And um,
Speaker 1: I know you don't got no social media channel, so
Speaker 1: I guess when people see you, they gets running to you.
Speaker 1: For sure. I haven't got no social media to give
Speaker 1: you off of my guy, y'all. Just so I don't know,
Speaker 1: y'all get out of my guests on the gangs of
Speaker 1: chronicles page or whatever. Relate the message, just good messages,
Speaker 1: and I relate the message. Man. So is it anything
Speaker 1: out there that, man, that you want to lead to
Speaker 1: the people? Man before we jump up off of here, man, Man, honestly, bro,
Speaker 1: I just I like to hear new ship. I like
Speaker 1: to hear a new vision, a new direction of ship.
Speaker 1: So what I want to say to just just this
Speaker 1: ship right here, man. Far as like the music in
Speaker 1: the streets, and I'm starting to notice that the streets
Speaker 1: and more tied into the music now, and it's more like,
Speaker 1: you know, like I hear the term that they're using.
Speaker 1: It's not our term, but the gang gang. You've heard
Speaker 1: them say that ship, you gang gang, Like we don't
Speaker 1: say that ship out here, and it's not not no
Speaker 1: knock on it or whatever. But we used to hit
Speaker 1: niggas up like, hey, where you froming? You bang? You
Speaker 1: you bang? Are you gang? That same ship? Whatever? But
Speaker 1: I'm starting to see a lot of that ship is
Speaker 1: entwined into the culture. Man, And It's just one of
Speaker 1: those things to where you gotta really, to me, be
Speaker 1: about that ship and know what you're doing before you
Speaker 1: start doing all this ship bro. And if you're not
Speaker 1: really about that, like, you don't need the funk with
Speaker 1: that to be up. You got dudes like um like
Speaker 1: uhn J Cole. That's to me like a cool niggas
Speaker 1: that wrap their ass off. That's doing very well without saying, Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm from blank blank blank A care I'm affiliated with this.
Speaker 1: You got dudes that's that's in the ship, like the
Speaker 1: homie from from the neighborhood, but here about that ship,
Speaker 1: y g that's that's the homie, say from the same
Speaker 1: neighborhood or whatever, but he about that ship. Those are
Speaker 1: two different artists on two different paths. But you could
Speaker 1: tell that this dude is about the ship because that's
Speaker 1: what he talked about. J. Cole is about that ship
Speaker 1: and that's what we talked about. So to me, I
Speaker 1: want dudes to find a lane. I wish they would
Speaker 1: find a lane. Don't just talk about the same ship.
Speaker 1: How many times we're gonna be in the street, how
Speaker 1: many times we're gonna do this, how many times I
Speaker 1: want to hear some new ship. I want to hear
Speaker 1: some ship like when Wu Tang came out and it
Speaker 1: was just like a crewe motherfucker's doing something different. They
Speaker 1: took the karate ship and made a whole motherfucking career
Speaker 1: out exactly. That's what I'm looking for. What I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You know what's funny about you saying that I was
Speaker 1: telling somebody. The other thing is when do we go
Speaker 1: get another bone thug, you know, just somebody to come
Speaker 1: out with something that's so different. I'm waiting on that
Speaker 1: ship now, That's what I'm like. So that's like I'm
Speaker 1: gonna close with kind of with that ship. And I'm
Speaker 1: really surprised at how And it's no not because a
Speaker 1: nigga from where he fund we did the whole street
Speaker 1: ship or whatever, like you said, we don't grow man
Speaker 1: and business ship now, but I'm surprised at how like
Speaker 1: they're making this this street ship so like acceptable and
Speaker 1: it's cool and this and that, and it's just so
Speaker 1: like to me, it's kind of like water down or sugarcoated,
Speaker 1: like just like the gang ship like that's and then
Speaker 1: it reaches out of out of California like I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't want that ship to be out in the South.
Speaker 1: I don't want that ship to be on the East Coast,
Speaker 1: and I don't want that shipped to be you get
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. No, don't get me wrong, because it's
Speaker 1: my fucker's that then put it on the line. It's reputable,
Speaker 1: reputable motherfucker's in every city restate. But it's just a
Speaker 1: certain way that you carry let their own way. Like
Speaker 1: when I go down to New Orleans, I don't want
Speaker 1: to see no crips and bloods down. I want them
Speaker 1: doing their stuff and calling us whoa and doing their thing.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, because that's the coach or let me
Speaker 1: get some of that culture. Let me get some of that.
Speaker 1: The East Coast, let me get some of that, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. That the the up North ship,
Speaker 1: let me get some of that that Chicago, let me
Speaker 1: get you know what I'm saying. It's like, but we
Speaker 1: can do that ship without being you know, funked up
Speaker 1: towards each other, turning up on each other or whatever,
Speaker 1: because the Nigga is still then touched all these different cities.
Speaker 1: And like I said before, but like we talked about
Speaker 1: at the death Row Ship. The real nigga recognized. The
Speaker 1: real nigga we pull up in any hood. We ain't
Speaker 1: coming to disrespect, and we ain't coming to say all
Speaker 1: we in your hood, this and this and that. We
Speaker 1: come with respect. So when you come out here, you're
Speaker 1: gonna get the same respect from us. You get what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But we want to go to Chicago and
Speaker 1: get the Herald's chicken. We want to go to uh
Speaker 1: to uh St. Louis and ship and go into into
Speaker 1: the Pink Slip. The pink slip, I heard clothes down.
Speaker 1: That's a stress. I don't the real nigga know what
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. But you know what I'm saying. You
Speaker 1: want to go over there and get your your experiences.
Speaker 1: Like you said, you want to go to the quarters
Speaker 1: and get you some Benyat's. And you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You want to keep you want to keep the coachure authentic.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, the crypton blood and stuff is
Speaker 1: a West Coast thing. And not to say that the
Speaker 1: brothers in Kansas City, because they're doing it. They've been
Speaker 1: doing it since the eighties. Now at this point, you know,
Speaker 1: you know they've been banging out there for thirty or
Speaker 1: forty years now, and I think what happened was the
Speaker 1: old dope routes. They kind of went out there and
Speaker 1: they brought their coature out there, the different people and
Speaker 1: that kind of just still the test of time and
Speaker 1: stayed out there. But I hope people stay authentic to
Speaker 1: what their culture real. And I think that's what you're saying.
Speaker 1: That's exactly what I'm saying, bro, because I'm honestly norm
Speaker 1: I'm the nigger that was in content. But I listened
Speaker 1: to a lot of hip hop from from fucking um
Speaker 1: KRS one two UM, I mean everybody, bro, like uh
Speaker 1: j Ice, I mean dudes that's back in the day
Speaker 1: g rap I listened to all that ship. Bro. I
Speaker 1: was one of them to Slick Rick all the ship
Speaker 1: that was kind of like the master aththing. I mean
Speaker 1: a lot of New York. I was influenced by a
Speaker 1: lot of the East Coast ship honestly, Bro. And it
Speaker 1: was like to meet them dudes was just dope and
Speaker 1: how they create ship. My nigga j Ruda Dammager and
Speaker 1: that was one of your biggest New York was one
Speaker 1: of your biggest York for sure, man, they funked with me. Man.
Speaker 1: And it's it's funny like when I see a couple
Speaker 1: of dudes, Like sometimes I run into method Man and
Speaker 1: he would be like high seat, you know, Like we'll
Speaker 1: be like yeah and he's like oh yeah, like he
Speaker 1: give me that, Like uh, like I heard you, you know,
Speaker 1: like the nod and ship. So I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: we was listening to their ship. We was influenced by it.
Speaker 1: Now it seem like it's just the l A ship
Speaker 1: is like touching everybody for us? Is you know the
Speaker 1: street culture ship man? And I just I'm just looking
Speaker 1: at it, like, bro, if that's not really you lead
Speaker 1: that ship along, Let the real nicks do that. There's
Speaker 1: other ways to get your bread. You know what, Before
Speaker 1: you go, I'm gonna ask you this question, Bro. You
Speaker 1: can answer it whether you want to or not. What
Speaker 1: do you think about the whole thing where cats, certain
Speaker 1: cats is going online trying to expose cats for snitching
Speaker 1: and all that type of stuff. Man, you think that's dangerous? Man,
Speaker 1: then who ship we gotta hold? Look, it's a whole
Speaker 1: another motherfucking five guy. But it's like to me, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say it like this like the old people used
Speaker 1: to tell us, if you can't do the time, don't
Speaker 1: do the crime. So if you're getting out here fucking
Speaker 1: around and you know some ship, don't look at what
Speaker 1: you're gonna gain or what you're about to win. Look
Speaker 1: at what you jeopardize. And then you're about to leave
Speaker 1: your kids behind? Are you about to leave somebody behind
Speaker 1: or your son behind or whoever the fuck because you
Speaker 1: got in this moment, or you got in your feelings
Speaker 1: or you wanted to try some dumb ship or some
Speaker 1: stupid ship, think about what you're gonna lose before you
Speaker 1: think about what you're gonna gain or what you're about
Speaker 1: to do, and turn up. And I'm saying that to
Speaker 1: say it won't put you in a position to where
Speaker 1: you have to get down on somebody or you have
Speaker 1: to snitch on somebody, because you know how to go.
Speaker 1: When they started saying, oh, well, hey you're looking at
Speaker 1: are you looking at thirty? And most mothercker's like thirty?
Speaker 1: I can't do thirty? So such as such, did Black
Speaker 1: Black Blake x y Z. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: When they started hitting them with the big jersey numbers,
Speaker 1: this ship, the oh you got you looking at fifteen,
Speaker 1: but the real motherfucker's nor Hey you're looking at twenty.
Speaker 1: Come on with it, Come on, that's that's the way
Speaker 1: to be. But but what do you think as far
Speaker 1: as cats going online and actually pointing people out. Man,
Speaker 1: it's a tricky situation because you pointed. But look at
Speaker 1: what you just said, right, you point the nick out
Speaker 1: for snitching. But what you're doing when you're pointing the
Speaker 1: figure you snitched on the snitch. Because what I was
Speaker 1: always told bro, you know uncles man, they stayed in
Speaker 1: the penitential and they told me this exactly. They said, Man,
Speaker 1: if you go expose somebody, you gotta be willing either
Speaker 1: handle your business or don't say nothing at all. It
Speaker 1: was one of them things like handle your business that
Speaker 1: don't say about So I feel I agree he right
Speaker 1: about that, because if I'm saying this nigga snitching, I'm
Speaker 1: snitching that he's snitching. Yeah for real. And if I
Speaker 1: know he funked up, you know what, the best bet,
Speaker 1: the best thing to do is my best bet, stay though,
Speaker 1: fuck away from this knee Like I don't funk with
Speaker 1: you affiliated like you can't call me as I'm just
Speaker 1: yeah for real and there it is. And y'all be
Speaker 1: on the lookout man, because Crowt don't say it to me.
Speaker 1: You can't want to show. I got witnesses. We gotta.
Speaker 1: We got a lot of people to listen to this man.
Speaker 1: So y'all, I got witnesses. Now crossing when I hit
Speaker 1: you up and say, hey, man, I got the shooting
Speaker 1: schedule ready, we're about to do this thing. I want
Speaker 1: to do something on the roadeum for sure. Man, Let's
Speaker 1: do it big. Still. You know I love you, man.
Speaker 1: You the only nigger that could put me out the
Speaker 1: cut man and just make me come out. Man, whenever
Speaker 1: you call them coming, you do. You put up the
Speaker 1: best thing on me for shore. So y'all heard him,
Speaker 1: and we out of here. Hell yeah,