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Speaker 1: We like to welcome everyone to another episode of the

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Speaker 1: Gangster Chronicles podcasts, and this one is special. Right here,

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Speaker 1: one of my good friends from the city of Compton, California,

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Speaker 1: a lot of pivotal hits under his belt, considered the lection.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It made a lot of records. Man.

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Speaker 1: He runs with a producer by the name of DJ

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Speaker 1: Quick that's a pretty decent producer and it's a home

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Speaker 1: right now. He's a fucking genius. Um, we got my

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Speaker 1: good friend high seat in the house. Cross. What's up? Man?

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Speaker 1: What's up still? Man? Just killing man. I've been waiting

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Speaker 1: to get you in here forever. Man. Man, this feels

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Speaker 1: crazy because you're my bro. We talked like every day,

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Speaker 1: like you know, yeah for sure. And that's why sometimes

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Speaker 1: we're doing these interviews, man, with people that you're real

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Speaker 1: cool with because all you're doing is having a conversation

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Speaker 1: and you know everything about that person. But you asked

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Speaker 1: him about stuff you already knew. So, Man, this is

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Speaker 1: special because you don't give a lot of interviews. I

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Speaker 1: think I've only seen like a couple of interviews on

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Speaker 1: your online There was people like I saw you did

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Speaker 1: one with Tony a yeah, and I think you're doing

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Speaker 1: with some baker. Yeah, that's the only that's that's it.

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Speaker 1: That's it. No social media at all. So when I

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Speaker 1: told the people and um, I did a post and said, hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm about to get high to see in the studio,

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Speaker 1: I had like, man, maybe liked people in the thread, man,

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Speaker 1: which is a lot. So you're real popular out there. Man,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to do one of my like like

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Speaker 1: Kevin Durant is something. Give me one of them ghosts

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Speaker 1: and burners accounts and ship. You have to rocking and

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Speaker 1: rocking like that. You have too, dog, because people love

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Speaker 1: you out there and they want to hear from you. Man.

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Speaker 1: I love him back for show. So we could go

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Speaker 1: way back to the beginning. Since you don't do a

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Speaker 1: lot of interviews, how when you when you first start rapping, Man,

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Speaker 1: I had to be I don't want to say probably

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Speaker 1: if I had to take a guess, and it's not accurate,

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Speaker 1: but I want to say probably about thirteen fourteen years old,

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Speaker 1: somewhere around there, because a lot of people don't know.

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Speaker 1: You don't write your reps down on paper. Everything you

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Speaker 1: do is kind of like a freestyle. Yeah. Yeah, Like

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Speaker 1: I said, I sit there and think about it and

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Speaker 1: think about it, and it's almost like I treated like

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Speaker 1: a rehearsal, you know, like if you're going to school

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Speaker 1: or something you had to play that you wanted to recite.

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Speaker 1: And you know one of the Martin Luther King plays

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Speaker 1: that she was a part of when you was holding

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Speaker 1: the M and the M is for you know. So

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Speaker 1: I just felt like I wanted to have my hands free.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to be able to express myself using my hands.

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Speaker 1: A lot of us do. So I was like, man,

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Speaker 1: let me just start kind of like remembering, like, you know,

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Speaker 1: by the time we all in the studio, because we

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Speaker 1: all be you know, it'd be groups of us in

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Speaker 1: the studio, and by the time dudes finished, right and

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Speaker 1: their ship, I'm sitting there thinking about, Okay, I wanted

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Speaker 1: like this. And you know, don't get me wrong. When

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Speaker 1: I first started, I had like no books and ship

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Speaker 1: that I used to write down. And I remember in

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Speaker 1: high school I had this like fold or a couple

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Speaker 1: they went. I think somebody got me or I probably

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Speaker 1: to misplace them. Ships or whatever, but nor I might

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Speaker 1: have some fire in there, like and you know, when

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Speaker 1: you got that ship, you can't get it back because

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Speaker 1: can't remember exactly what it is. So I was like, damn,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to lose some more notebooks, you know,

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Speaker 1: So you just start keeping everything up beside the brain,

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Speaker 1: you know. Um, so you mentioned that you've got rapping,

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Speaker 1: start rapping real early's Quick producing there. Yeah, Quick was

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Speaker 1: doing most of the like Quick was more of a

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Speaker 1: producer than he was a rapper man. People don't really

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Speaker 1: know that. Like he was really uh DJ quick mix,

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Speaker 1: So he was doing all the beats for you early on. Um,

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Speaker 1: and just make wonders out of that ship. Like he

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Speaker 1: early recordings, you guys doing the mix tapes and stuff

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Speaker 1: on those Roodium Squat Meat mixed tapes. Yeah, they were

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Speaker 1: four track. That was Steve you the Rest in Peace

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Speaker 1: and Tony. Yeah. Yeah, those them ships took a long

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Speaker 1: time to do. That's how I ended up meeting like

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Speaker 1: Easy and Dr Dre you know, from from doing the

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Speaker 1: Roodium stuff too. Yeah, because you go back a long

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Speaker 1: way and you still look young as hell. Oh man,

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Speaker 1: think you know, always look like a kid. Every time

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Speaker 1: I see you. I got I gotta kick up, man,

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Speaker 1: I gotta kick the gym. Man, come on, man, you

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Speaker 1: know I'm you know, that's where i'd be at, and

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Speaker 1: that's what I want to go into. Man, when did

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Speaker 1: you When did the crew get together? Like when did

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Speaker 1: you start hooking up with Quick Second and nothing? All

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Speaker 1: those guys, well ship, most of us went to school together.

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Speaker 1: Quick stayed around the corn We from the same neighborhood

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Speaker 1: or whatever. So man, you already know so we you know,

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Speaker 1: Quick stayed around the corner and we was like real

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Speaker 1: tightest friends and just used to ride dirt bikes. Man,

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Speaker 1: like the stuff you see now when the dudes on

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Speaker 1: the dirt bikes. We was riding dirt bikes man, a

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Speaker 1: long time ago, like just in the streets and doing

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Speaker 1: our ship dirt by ride and just doing what you know,

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Speaker 1: the normal badass little kids was doing. And Quick was

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Speaker 1: His name was Sean Whitehurst, so white Hurst mixed Master

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Speaker 1: white we used to call them. Used to blend all

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Speaker 1: you know, everybody was doing their little ship. Back then

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Speaker 1: they'll give us, giving like a hundred dollars just to

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Speaker 1: So they'd be like, man, I'll be like, hell yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'll take this hunted. Like to me, it was like god,

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Speaker 1: a lot. So take the hunters say their name in

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Speaker 1: like two fifteens and ship off beating down the blocks.

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Speaker 1: They had their name in the tape, and then we

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Speaker 1: That's my first Kelly. People have like five thousand watching

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Speaker 1: over the Yeah, man, they ship in the cars. Man,

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Speaker 1: You'd be like, god damn, but niggas is really into

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Speaker 1: yeah I always had it's always had a talent and

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Speaker 1: just a gift for that ship. Yeah, so y'all get together,

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Speaker 1: y'all doing the mixed tapes and everything like that, and

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Speaker 1: each each other's joints, like, y'all will hear you on

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Speaker 1: So around what time did you get your first because

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Speaker 1: you was working with Steve, you don't rest in peace? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I went to the Aldier man my boy, my, my

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Speaker 1: was like, no, ship. He was like yeah, So I said, man,

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Speaker 1: Steve Yano is Asian dude, long hair and ship like this.

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Speaker 1: knew every fucking record, every name of a record, who

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Speaker 1: the keyboard player from Janna where the Bernie, Well, he

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Speaker 1: just know all the ship. You know. Steve Yano was

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Speaker 1: and do this and this and that. He was just

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Speaker 1: used to gravitate towards him to get their records. And

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Speaker 1: all kinds of cratesive records just to find that little

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Speaker 1: So Steve had all these old school records, and the

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Speaker 1: long story short, I just started telling him like, look, man,

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Speaker 1: I get down. I wrapped, you know, and I've saved

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Speaker 1: of some money to take my uh take my little

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Speaker 1: project to the black Hole studios. Back in the day,

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Speaker 1: It was some little cool ship or whatever. It wasn't

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Speaker 1: really then I let him motherfucker here today. But it

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Speaker 1: the records Bootleg the all lines on me, y'all gonna

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00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:09,080
Speaker 1: listen to that right there. But yeah, but that was

425
00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:12,119
Speaker 1: one of them come on to you know, come up

426
00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,639
Speaker 1: here the Red Room. They call it the Red Room meetings.

427
00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,679
Speaker 1: And then you got his ass told the pieces. And

428
00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:23,359
Speaker 1: this is another big nigger, another big nigger. Yeah, I

429
00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,679
Speaker 1: think I knew the initials to this name. Should I

430
00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,800
Speaker 1: say the initials? Yeah? I won't say this will be yall, y'all,

431
00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,000
Speaker 1: we had to do your homework on this one right here. Now,

432
00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:32,439
Speaker 1: I got so much ship, you got to bring me

433
00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,200
Speaker 1: back on. I got so much ship, crazy man, y'all,

434
00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:36,959
Speaker 1: you want to look out for part two right here,

435
00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:38,919
Speaker 1: because we've got some ship going on. We got some

436
00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:40,879
Speaker 1: other ship we gotta talk to you all about. You know,

437
00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,040
Speaker 1: this real ship though. You know this ship ain't homey

438
00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,359
Speaker 1: got you know, but I mean by right like you

439
00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,359
Speaker 1: Bootleg and nigga ship, you taking money out of it,

440
00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:52,080
Speaker 1: you know, ta the nigga his pockets out of kids, myles?

441
00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,919
Speaker 1: Why am I like Nigga going the studio, blood sweating

442
00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,119
Speaker 1: tears doing this ship for motherfucker just to take it

443
00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,679
Speaker 1: and bootlegged and give it to a motherfucker so you

444
00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:01,640
Speaker 1: could d you had nothing to do with this ship

445
00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 1: like I understand why dude was man like that. So

446
00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:11,199
Speaker 1: then you got in that red room and boy, I

447
00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,199
Speaker 1: want to ask you about another whooping. If she was

448
00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,280
Speaker 1: around for this whooping? Um, and this this got to

449
00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,040
Speaker 1: do with her own, boy bet, because you know Sama,

450
00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:21,040
Speaker 1: I just called Mosama, Osaman them on what the few

451
00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:24,720
Speaker 1: people's ask open the thing and we could talk about this. Um,

452
00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,480
Speaker 1: what was the name of that label? Man? That that

453
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:31,919
Speaker 1: that Osama And then was messing with Oh the you're

454
00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:37,640
Speaker 1: talking about the Shepherd Lane, No, not shepperd Lane, this bungalow. Yeah,

455
00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,040
Speaker 1: what was my man's name up there? Oh? Yeah, you

456
00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:45,879
Speaker 1: know his name? But a little executive I saw the

457
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:49,679
Speaker 1: homeboy Sama was in the meeting. He was talking about

458
00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,360
Speaker 1: let's get some stuff off the table, and dude kind

459
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,080
Speaker 1: of got smart and got the taste slapt out of

460
00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,919
Speaker 1: his mouth back. And that's how I used to go

461
00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:58,440
Speaker 1: back in the day. Let's go back to day you

462
00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,960
Speaker 1: talked back. He was getting slapped a rounds toe up.

463
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,240
Speaker 1: And that's kind of the reason why, Like they always

464
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 1: asked me, why I don't get into like putting out

465
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 1: a lot of dudes or you know, producing other artists

466
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 1: and ship like that, and It's kind of rare that

467
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,080
Speaker 1: you see a dude that's really about this ship, that

468
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,199
Speaker 1: really have that drive and really want to stay in

469
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 1: the studio. I really want to sleep in the stayn

470
00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,480
Speaker 1: care if they shave or take a bath. Them the

471
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 1: kind of niggas I wanted. I didn't want to Nigga

472
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 1: win like we did. We slept on the studio floor.

473
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,120
Speaker 1: Niggas that that won't take a bath for three days.

474
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna write this song. I'm gonna finish this song.

475
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 1: And these days, man to me, excuse me, but it's

476
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,120
Speaker 1: it's just hard to find that drive. And dudes these

477
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 1: days they want that ship overnight. They want to be like,

478
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 1: oh I just got a record deal and they're gonna

479
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,959
Speaker 1: go buy Jerry on the second day, Like Nigga, We

480
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 1: was in that motherfucker Jerry curl, dried out, breath stinking,

481
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,119
Speaker 1: and they smell like whatever the funk. We smell like

482
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 1: two day old, what the fuck? But we're trying to

483
00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:01,199
Speaker 1: get this this that word roll. Like Tupac come in

484
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 1: there at my fucking manuty and quick and told me

485
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 1: stories about like Tupac running both of the studios and

486
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,400
Speaker 1: ship like he'd coming there and funk with this beat

487
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 1: Quick was doing, and then funk with the other producer. Man.

488
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 1: I think it was Johnny one of them or dre

489
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 1: track or whatever. He was going back and forth, and

490
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,119
Speaker 1: Quick said he had hit his cigarette and ship and smoked.

491
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 1: Go take a break, but he will not leave that

492
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 1: motherfucker because his work ethic was just something crazy, bro.

493
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 1: And I just feel like, yeah, I feel like, if

494
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 1: if dudes ain't giving me that energy, bro, I ain't

495
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 1: gonna waste my money or my time to be trying

496
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 1: to produce one of fucker's ain't hold people's hand. That's

497
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 1: why I'm not really into like doing that whole thing, man.

498
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 1: And I know it's some dope talent out there, but

499
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,119
Speaker 1: it's just that's just not my I'm gonna tell you

500
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 1: for real, man. Digital Soapbox has a record label. Yeah, yeah,

501
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,160
Speaker 1: we got a record label. The actually got some little

502
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,439
Speaker 1: funding to a dog. And I would just rather go

503
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 1: back and miss with the O G S like you

504
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,119
Speaker 1: missed with past like eight, because y'all gonna do what

505
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 1: it takes, man, yea take we go going there. It's like,

506
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you, ain't nothing worse. I had an

507
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,639
Speaker 1: artist before man, and I'm not with the babysitting stuff.

508
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,159
Speaker 1: So I booke time. I booked time, and I go

509
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,119
Speaker 1: up there about like the time it's time. It is

510
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:14,959
Speaker 1: like from four to nine. I got a book from

511
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 1: four to nine, so I let artists do their thing.

512
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 1: I don't police nobody because obviously I signed you. I

513
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,959
Speaker 1: think you're doping up the handle business. I go up

514
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 1: to the studio, man at six o'clock. Mine, you've been

515
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:30,119
Speaker 1: up there since four. I go up there. Studio reeks

516
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 1: of marijuana bottles everywhere, and I'm like, okay, let me

517
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 1: hear the music. I'm expecting my Beagle Press playing and

518
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 1: I'm hear some incredible stuff. Oh, we ain't got started yet.

519
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 1: We're getting the vibe. I said, what that vibe cut off?

520
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,640
Speaker 1: I said, man, you know what shut this ship down? Man?

521
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 1: Never will do it again, man, because you know what

522
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,719
Speaker 1: you up here playing? Yeah. Man, See that's the one

523
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,959
Speaker 1: thing I miss about ship. Like to get you in

524
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 1: there when the doors open. If it's game on and

525
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 1: you wanted the players think you better be playing, You

526
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,159
Speaker 1: better be hooping, you better be rocking, you better be

527
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 1: doing something, because we ain't wasting no bread there's too

528
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,679
Speaker 1: many other motherfucker's that's in the line that's trying to

529
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 1: eat too. If you're not gonna eat while you with

530
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 1: your turn, they can move out the way. And that's

531
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 1: just that's just how I go. Man. Yeah, man, you know,

532
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 1: so we can take a break real quick and we

533
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 1: can come right back. Y'all go ahead and check out

534
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,400
Speaker 1: our sponsors and make sure y'all support Yeah for sure.

535
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,640
Speaker 1: So your first record deal was actually on Disney. Yeah,

536
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 1: that ship was on Disney bro And that's what we

537
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 1: gotta make a whole movie documentary on the first rapper

538
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 1: on Disney and after me, they changed that ship to

539
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,160
Speaker 1: Hollywood Records, like they wanted to be in the rap game,

540
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 1: but they didn't really want to, like the association, because like,

541
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 1: why did y'all sign me and give me all this money?

542
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,120
Speaker 1: One thing they did they failed me. They laced me up,

543
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 1: they kept my pockets right, they giving it a check

544
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 1: just to shut me up sometimes because I'd be in

545
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 1: there complained and this ship, it's like and Peter Returnal

546
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 1: was the president at the time time. He's the lawyer

547
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 1: on Dr Dre ship right now. You know Dr Dre

548
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: and M and them. I think he had something to

549
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,400
Speaker 1: do with the dre Beast deal. You know, Peter turn

550
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 1: of course. Yeah, so heavyweight. Hell yeah, Michael Eisner at

551
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 1: the time was over everything. So I'm like, they signed,

552
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 1: you know, they know where we come from. Quick was

553
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 1: doing his deal that Profile second, and I was doing Profile.

554
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 1: I think AMG was doing Select. I think it was

555
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 1: Select Records or whatever. It's the beauty of it. We

556
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 1: all had our own individual deals, but we was already

557
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 1: like Votron, we was already clicked up. But everybody to

558
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 1: get their individual back and none of them pockets was

559
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 1: deeper than that Disney ship. You know what I'm saying.

560
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, no, I mean, boy, the fucked up some

561
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:48,880
Speaker 1: good money. Just you talk about Disney Man. So at

562
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 1: that time, I'm pretty sure they wanted to kind of

563
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 1: censor a lot of your material. Yeah, they wanted everything

564
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,120
Speaker 1: to be kind of clean. Yeah, that's exactly what they wanted.

565
00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Because you didn't hear a

566
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 1: whole bunch of Kurt your earlier records. I mean, it

567
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 1: was a bunch of cursing on my records. That's kind

568
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 1: of what we like. We'll make jokes sometimes now, like

569
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: well compared to today, in comparison to what they doing

570
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 1: to day, it was kind of lightweight back then. I

571
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 1: won't say. I won't say it was lightweight, but I'll

572
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 1: say if it was different, but that it was different.

573
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: It was different, It was different stuff. Yeah, we was

574
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 1: more like street party, let's have some fun, let's hit

575
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 1: the street, let's you know, party turn up or whatever.

576
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 1: And they still do the same ship today, but it's

577
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,120
Speaker 1: just in a different way, you know. Yeah, you sold

578
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: a lot of records with this hell. Yeah, and that's

579
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 1: when they wasn't really tracking ship, you know, like sound

580
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,880
Speaker 1: scan wasn't really That's when they was the bootleg ship

581
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 1: was heavy. So a lot of this ship was bootleg.

582
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,199
Speaker 1: But yeah, we did good with him. Yeah, because I

583
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: think you would sound scanning something like three hundred thousand copies, Yeah,

584
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 1: probably more so you figured efficiently. Now, Yeah, if you

585
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: signed scanning three hundred something body across, you probably sold

586
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: back in that time people on this and how big

587
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 1: the bootleg and stuff with you might have sold six

588
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: seven thousand, Oh yeah, for sure. Definitely. That's to me,

589
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: that was easy. And I love the fact that Disney

590
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: put me in like like the soundtracks of and seeing

591
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: a man. Certain movies that I was working with, like

592
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,360
Speaker 1: South Center, like certain movies I had action to, like

593
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 1: getting in and putting my music in these these movies

594
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 1: and soundtracks and stuff like that, because of course it

595
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,199
Speaker 1: was Disney, but they'll link me up a certain stuff.

596
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: And then you know, I was getting breaks like like

597
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 1: the Chris Rock ship, the cbfour movie. Yea doing a rapping,

598
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 1: me doing a rapping, and Daddy, I was doing a

599
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: rapping from step to sonic from doing the other part

600
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: of this ship. Yeah, straight out of low Cash and

601
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: all that swept for my balls and shout out to

602
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: Chris Rock right now. You know he hot right now

603
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: because all that controversial ship. But um, and then I

604
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: did another soundtrack for Chris Rock on that head of State.

605
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: I think it was called some movie or something. I

606
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 1: put one of my ships in there. So when I

607
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 1: catch up with Chris Man, we got a holler. Bro. Yeah,

608
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 1: for sure, you did a lot of pivotal stuff. Let

609
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: me ask you this man, this during the time. Man,

610
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 1: we're talking about the eighties right now, and in the

611
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 1: eighties it was just a whole another level as far

612
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: as gangsterism and the streets people was really gang banging,

613
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 1: and Quick was one of the first correct me if

614
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: I'm wrong. Quick was one of the first people to

615
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: really start kind of like banging the wax a little

616
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 1: bit because he would throw a little stuff in there. Yeah,

617
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 1: he would throw a little subliminal stuff in the records

618
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: and kind of let you know what it is. You

619
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: know on the mixtapes, you know, Ship the tape, you know,

620
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: the hood tape. So he just you know, we just

621
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: let it be known. And then after that it was

622
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: becoming kind of like, you know, the dudes that was

623
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 1: kind of stepping up because back then it ain't gonna

624
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: lie bro. It was just kind of hard to just

625
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 1: really get out there and just kind of put yourself

626
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,719
Speaker 1: on the front line like that because it was really

627
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: like motherfucker's that will come and test your ship, you

628
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So you do ship nowadays, and

629
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: it's still bad, don't get me wrong, but it's not

630
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: cameras everywhere back then like it is today. You can't

631
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 1: sucking sneeze or take a leak on the side of

632
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: a building without the motherfucker filming you now. But back

633
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: then and then it comes slide on you and do whatever,

634
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 1: and they don't know who did it until you know

635
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like some of the greatest rappers alive,

636
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 1: they still don't. You know, it's unsolved. But right now,

637
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 1: dudes got cameras everywhere, they're actually doing ship on camera.

638
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 1: That's why I don't really rock with the social media

639
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: shipped too much, like taunting motherfucker's on cameras and motherfucker's

640
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: running up on people trying to get points and cloud

641
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: are doing the get shipped to people on camera. That's

642
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: just not my lane. I don't feel it. But if

643
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 1: that's what niggas do, I respect that. But it was

644
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: just different back then, bro. So when you said some ship,

645
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: you had to really stand on some ship. It wouldn't

646
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: like now because, um I see a lot of people

647
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: that claim they pie rouse their bloods and this and

648
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: crips and they're not necessarily really like that and they

649
00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: can kind of get away with it. But back then,

650
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 1: you really had to stand on. You had to be

651
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: a man and where the read yeah, hell yeah, you

652
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: have to especially being a blood Hell yeah, you already

653
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: know back then because y'all plush, y'all king in the

654
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: time that where everybody has seemed like was crips at

655
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: the time. That's hey, the family back back and you

656
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: know I had family. I got family out of town

657
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: from the South and ship and they used to be

658
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: concerned about me and ship because they heard I was

659
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: running in the streets and they was like, you're not

660
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: You're not running, You're not. Uh. They all they thought

661
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: it was crip. Mean, they thought krip mean everything. You

662
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, crip was the Mexican Games. Crip

663
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: was that they didn't know, you know, you're not you're

664
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: not what you're not doing the crypt now like now

665
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 1: the what were doing. But they didn't understand it. This ship,

666
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: but it was it was it was hard back then

667
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: to be you know. Now, did y'all ever have any

668
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 1: conflict with that, like because people know him, y'all it

669
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: was part rouge time. Yeah, you best God there right,

670
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: let's talk about it. Man. We was the only one.

671
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: We was like the first ones to come out and

672
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: just they knew we wasn't you know, like they heard

673
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: a lot of the ship and what we was dressed

674
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: like and what we was wearing. They know we wasn't

675
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: you know, we wasn't no crips. They know exactly what

676
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 1: was going on. And it was like dudes that that,

677
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 1: like you said, the dudes from out of town that

678
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 1: probably heard somebody to say something. And then you have

679
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 1: some real niggas, Like I mean, it was one of

680
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: those things I think, if I'm not mistaken, we was

681
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: kind of like the first ones from from that side

682
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: to really go out and tour and people be known like, okay,

683
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: them niggas is dogs and you know the other niggas.

684
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: Looks like we were just torn, toring torn and everywhere

685
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: we go where some other. Back then before all the ship,

686
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: all the ship got twisted up. Norm all the bloods

687
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: have respect for each other, loved each other. It used

688
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: to be a thing where dudes and say blood love

689
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And it was like I

690
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: can go to San Diego, pull up on the dog

691
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 1: and just share break bread or whatever. I can go

692
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: from anywhere and it was like, come on, blood, let's

693
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: you know who. It was cool, like, man, the nigga

694
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 1: gout for you. But now they beet with each other

695
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: something terrible. I remember at that time, man, I remember

696
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: at that time that bloods would look out for bloods

697
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: and crips would look out for crips, and now it's

698
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 1: the thing man that wears more bloods killing bloods now,

699
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: and there's more crips killing crips. What do you think man?

700
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: Being one of them dudes that was that's really a

701
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: veteran of the streets. A lot of people don't never

702
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: bring your name up. But she was a real gangster.

703
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You're a real gangster, you

704
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It was a real gangster. Of course,

705
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 1: we've grown men now, got children and you know, responsibilities

706
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: and stuff. So ain't nobody running the streets like they was.

707
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: But during that time, have you ever had an incident

708
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: on the road where you really thought it was gonna

709
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: go down? Man, we had a whole bunch of fucking

710
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: incidents like that ship quick talking about in the record,

711
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 1: just Liketen like being shot at this ship coming out

712
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: the back of the show, and the dude like, just

713
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: for instance, one night we're doing the show and I've

714
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: seen the dude had on this green never forgive a

715
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: color you had on green? With his change this ship

716
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: he was doing this thing or whatever. Then he was

717
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: in the show and joined the show singing our ship

718
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:11,839
Speaker 1: and I think that was San Antonio. I'm not if

719
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken. Dude party and they had a couple

720
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: of his homies with him. I don't remember who exactly

721
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: was with him, but long story short, bro, we came

722
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: out and dude was laid out man shotting the dome

723
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: like somebody got him and domed him out there, and

724
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 1: he was like damn. And then we was trying to

725
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: get out the building. Some motherfuckers started shooting at us.

726
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: We had to throw the vest on quick and some

727
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: of our our team was with us security and ship

728
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: and homies and start shooting back at them. And we

729
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: got in the van. We had EMC Breed with his

730
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: man and EMC Breed manager was like, what the funk

731
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 1: going on? Y'all? This ship is real. This dude jumped here.

732
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 1: I think he had on a white suit. He jumped

733
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 1: on the ground and was laying under a van and

734
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 1: got up. I was like, man, y'all, motherfucker's crazy this

735
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 1: And then we was like, man, this this kind of high.

736
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 1: Go homie, when you're pushing this line, you know what

737
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: I'm saying, And not that we was pushing in the

738
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: line like that of banging on niggas, but they just

739
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 1: knew where we was from, you know what I'm saying,

740
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 1: So it was just made it a little bit harder. Yeah,

741
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: let's talk about this. And ironically, I wish I had

742
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: the homie up here today. You know, eight was from Tragnew.

743
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 1: Eight was from Tragnew. Y'all from Tree Top, y'all local

744
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 1: to each other. You're both from Compton. When the beef

745
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 1: started with him and quick, how intense did that get

746
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: for the whole camp? Man? To be honest, it was

747
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 1: one of those things to where, man, I don't even

748
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 1: know like how the ship kind of really got kicked off,

749
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 1: But it was one of those things to where it

750
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: didn't really it wasn't no different from the regular day

751
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:44,479
Speaker 1: to day ship with us, you know what I'm saying,

752
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 1: because that's what we used to think about Compton, man,

753
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: And you know, Norman, because you haven't been out there

754
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: with us a million times. And ship Compton got so

755
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: many goddamned hoods. It's not that big, and it's it's

756
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 1: overflowed with hoods and congested with different hoods. If you

757
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: go on this side of the street, you in this hood.

758
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 1: If you go down this way, you and this head.

759
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: So we kind of just kept it pushing. It was

760
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: just everyday protocol for us. You know what I'm saying,

761
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 1: until we run into somebody. You know what I'm saying,

762
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: You know that ship though we ain't really we ain't

763
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 1: losing no sleep. I'm sure they ain't losing no sleep.

764
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 1: But if you run into him, we're gonna address the situation,

765
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, Hey, what's happening. And

766
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 1: then when we saw him in the airport and ship,

767
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: I thought it was cool, Like Quick said, you know

768
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, we've seen him and the nigga was

769
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: on some big boy ship and I wasn't even gonna

770
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 1: let it go down like that. We was. It was

771
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 1: a few of us, and I think he was by

772
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: itself for somebody with one person. And then he didn't

773
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: rush him or nothing like that, because we don't do

774
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: that ship. You know what I'm saying. It's like, if

775
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 1: you want to take the faith, and then can take

776
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: the faith if that's what you want to do right now.

777
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 1: But they talked or whatever, exchange numbers and I think

778
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 1: he changed his number and that's what kind of made

779
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 1: Quick even matter, Like you know, what I'm saying, like

780
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 1: we're supposed to be like when he said, you change

781
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 1: a little deeper number. Back then niggas had pages, so

782
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:00,959
Speaker 1: he kind of changed his number. I think that's what happened.

783
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 1: I'm not sure though. And the thing is, man, those

784
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 1: sixty ways since usually be so tuchi that he might

785
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 1: not have changed his number being on some stuff. It

786
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,919
Speaker 1: might not have had number because I changed my number

787
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: all the time, That's what I'm saying. So you never

788
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 1: knew what the fun. You know, we don't know what

789
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,439
Speaker 1: the fun is going on. But at that time, it's

790
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: like motherfucker's young, full of testosterone. You know, we want

791
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,399
Speaker 1: to be the king of the hill, just like they

792
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: want to be the king of the hill. Niggas know

793
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: he had crept, they know we from where we're from

794
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: or whatever. So it's it's like that tension. Everybody already

795
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: looking at it like, Okay, you know, I'm motherfucker at

796
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 1: at school. When you see a motherucker about the fight,

797
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,479
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, motherfucker's like they're doing all this ship,

798
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: like let's see what the like. Motherfucker's just wanted to

799
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: see what was gonna happen to me? And it was

800
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: like no difference from like every dayhood ship. You know,

801
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 1: yeah for sure, and that's what goes on. The one

802
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 1: thing I do want to say, Eight has always let

803
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 1: it be known I see my nigga, you know, chill

804
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: to shout out chill. Yeah, you know, there's some good cats, man.

805
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: And that one thing I do think is cool is

806
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 1: that that stuff did get resolved. And I'm still waiting

807
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: to hear that eight and DJ Quick album. Man, that

808
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 1: that collaboration, you know what I mean. I think it

809
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: would be dope. I think would be dope, and I

810
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: think right about now it's something that we definitely could

811
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,879
Speaker 1: make happen. I think the world is still ready for that.

812
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, you know, I think the world is still

813
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 1: ready for that. And they also also here they also

814
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: ready to hear some new music from High See. Why

815
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: do you wait so long in between songs man to

816
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: put our projects? Man? You know what, like we do

817
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: songs man, and at the time of the ship, just

818
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 1: be right, I could play some ship right now. We

819
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: got that. Ain't nobody heard a few things that ain't

820
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: nobody heard that. People will be like, man, what the

821
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: funk you doing? It's dope, ist fucking this and this

822
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: and that, and sometimes we just work on ship and

823
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: just put it to the side or never come out

824
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: and start working on some new ship. Like you know,

825
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: you know how the good ship you've been in the studio. Yeah, well,

826
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: you know what what's funny man about that is like

827
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,080
Speaker 1: when we put let Me Know out that really it

828
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,479
Speaker 1: was four years old already, and the music is so good.

829
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: It's timeless. It doesn't have no time stamps on or

830
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 1: nothing like that, to where you can hear one of

831
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,240
Speaker 1: your records four years from now and it still sounds

832
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: current and not believe that's because you guys are such

833
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:17,800
Speaker 1: great musicians. It's music and it's not tied into no trendy.

834
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: Ship is not tied into no stuff that's going on.

835
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 1: It's like you guys always recreating your own thing. That's man,

836
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,959
Speaker 1: we do, man, And that that record, that particular record

837
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 1: you're talking about. Man, we were sitting in a quick

838
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: living room and just sucking around. This Nick in his

839
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:37,760
Speaker 1: boxers and we're over there just fucking around with some ship.

840
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: He's comfortable, we at the house chilling, and we just

841
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:45,399
Speaker 1: started sucking around. And everybody hear that song and be like, man,

842
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: is that a sample offer, you know, is it Rogers

843
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 1: that you know they think is a Zapp or somebody

844
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,879
Speaker 1: or you know, Roger Troutman or whatever the funk they

845
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: think it is. But no, this is some ship that

846
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: I think it did like straight, you know, just genius

847
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 1: thinking and this me coming up with the hooks or

848
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: whatever and ideas. That's one thing I love about the Click.

849
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 1: We always threw ship at each other lines, hooks, choruses,

850
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 1: you know, like when you're a groupy like man, I

851
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 1: don't know, try to say this or do this or

852
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 1: what you think about that? Like, no, we ain't doing

853
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: that like that, you know what I'm saying that It

854
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: was just always that good like camaraderie, you know what

855
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 1: I mean, Like just team effort of putting out some

856
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: good ship. Yeah, for sure. And I don't think when

857
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: people mention top producers. A lot of people on the

858
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: West always mention Quick's name and they top five. But

859
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: a lot of people outside the West they always named

860
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: Dr Dre and you know a few other people. But

861
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 1: Quick as as Quick is not just a great producer,

862
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 1: he's also a great engineer, also a great song writer.

863
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 1: He does everything well. Everything He does everything well because

864
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 1: a lot of hooks, y'all having on records to beat

865
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 1: him singing. A lot of people don't know. They don't

866
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 1: know NIGGI gets saying like the old Rigard prior said,

867
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 1: and they have to saying to get some puzzy. So

868
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 1: I want to ask you about a few people in

869
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,439
Speaker 1: the crew. Man, Um, how did Masburg rest in peace?

870
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,399
Speaker 1: Coming to the Fold? I want to hear the whole story. Man,

871
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,879
Speaker 1: Moss bird Man, Baby bird Man. That's that's man, that's

872
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 1: my dude. I missed Masburg. Massburg came into the fold.

873
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 1: Black Tone had the shop, the baseball car store. You

874
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: know Black always keep a couple of businesses here. He

875
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: had the beauty salon this story. You know, Black always

876
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 1: getting that check. So um, he came up there and

877
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was one of the homies

878
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: from Campanello, somebody brought him up there or whatever. And

879
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 1: he had a little demo, man, and I never forget

880
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: it was off of Michael Jackson. The doe dude did

881
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: the doe dude? Dude? What is that with? Uh? Smooth criminal?

882
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 1: You yep, smooth criminal. And he did a song off

883
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: of that, and you you gotta know Mossberg is like

884
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 1: six five normal, what was the six four and six

885
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: five ship to ninety but almost then the three and

886
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 1: big boy, you know what I'm saying, Like big intimidating,

887
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: like but young though, and he was like and serious

888
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: as fun, and I just like how he was serious.

889
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: And he went by Johnny Burnt, like Johnny Burns and

890
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: he had this song some something, Mr Johnny Burns is

891
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: the real list this then the like he just changed

892
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 1: it all up, and I was kind of like, man,

893
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: this niked man. He I funk with him because out

894
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 1: of all the ship you could have sampled what you did.

895
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: He took Michael Jackson and did the ship off of

896
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson, but looking like serious, like yeah I did

897
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson. I saw Mallsburg was like, yeah I did

898
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,839
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson. What's up? And the nick ain't gonna say

899
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 1: that to him ship? Like you know what I'm saying,

900
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: Like because that nigga is bought his ship, you know

901
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And I kind of used to smirking

902
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 1: like did Michael Jackson. But Mallsburg was hard as fun,

903
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:57,919
Speaker 1: so we kind of I just I took a liking

904
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 1: to him. Since then I love him, like man, he

905
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 1: was like down to like say, you know, because I'm

906
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 1: the type of nigguy. I like Michael Jackson too, Like, uh,

907
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 1: my cousin and his girlfriend got in my car, one

908
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 1: of my cars and ship. You know, I do the

909
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: car shipped too, So I got a car business or whatever.

910
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: I got my own dealership like ship, so I keep car.

911
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 1: I'll be in all kinds of ships. So they got

912
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 1: in one of my cars and I had a Michael

913
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: Jackson CD in there, and they fell out laughing because

914
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: they thinking like, oh, like crows ain't never listened to

915
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson. He's supposed to listen to. This was years ago,

916
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: Like oh all you know hard Ship. I'm like, they

917
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 1: go like, that's one of the best sounding albums, one

918
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: of the best ever. Yeah, hell yeah. So I'm like

919
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: the funk when I listening to Michael Jackson. So by

920
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: Massy doing that, I was like, they could go head,

921
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:44,919
Speaker 1: let's see what you got. And then we just took

922
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,479
Speaker 1: him in and just grew a liking to him. Yeah

923
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: for sure, And he got behind them quick beats in

924
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: the rest man. That's yeah, that'ship history after that. But

925
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 1: actually y'all did more songs together than anybody else, right, Yeah,

926
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 1: me and Massy did we We didn't do We didn't

927
00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 1: get a chance to do all of the song. Like

928
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: I said, we got Ship that ain't even came out

929
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: or whatever, and Ship, but we do so much Ship

930
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: norm You're like, we get in there and just get

931
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: the working bro, and then when Ship get divvied up,

932
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 1: or we want to put this on this album, do

933
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 1: this on that album? Like, um, Ship, that's how I go.

934
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: Because he was on his way man, and then um,

935
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 1: he was murdered on the fourth of July weekend? Correct

936
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: ye and michaelrect How how did that impact the whole camp?

937
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 1: If fucked everybody up? Bro? Until this day, until this day,

938
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,280
Speaker 1: I really don't go nowhere on the fourth of July.

939
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 1: I can't get the ship out of my head. Like

940
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 1: it's I don't even like to go nowhere on the

941
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 1: fourth Bro, y'all Remember when it was fourth of July

942
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 1: and I started running with y'all? Remember Black Tone and

943
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,439
Speaker 1: called me and said, hey, where are you at. You said,

944
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: I'm at the crib. He said you should probably stay there,

945
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: and he said, don't go nowhere on the fourth. To

946
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: this day, I don't think none of y'all going nowhere

947
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 1: on the fourth of July. Yeah, but I just don't

948
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 1: my my spirit be down. I don't know, it's just

949
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. I like the Independence Day and

950
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: like the kids and ships. Some of them don't even

951
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: know the back story, they too young or whatever, but

952
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 1: it's still bothered me to this day. Man. And if

953
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: I come out on the fourth, it's a rare occasion

954
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: that I come out on the four. I just like

955
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 1: the chill, you know, because you a l A and

956
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 1: ship and this with us. It could be fireworks and

957
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 1: then it could be it could be a blammber. It

958
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 1: could be anything. You know what I'm saying. It could

959
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: be a grenade. Niggas out here be OsO bullshit, So

960
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 1: it could be. You don't know what the funk going

961
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: on now? Who came in? Sugar Free came in before

962
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 1: Masbro right, Yeah, Free came in before Mosburg. That's the

963
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: one I want to know. How did y'all discovered sugar free?

964
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: Who discovered sugar free? Man? I'm gonna tell you, Like this,

965
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 1: Black Tone has sugar free and sugar Free had a

966
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: sugar Free? Was Royal Rock or the Pure Pimp and

967
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: he had, uh man, I can't think of my boy

968
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 1: that was producing, but it was Tones, uh Tone people

969
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: was producing. He had a different producer and just to

970
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 1: be real, like Black and Quick wasn't really speaking at

971
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: the time, wasn't seeing eye the eye or whatever. And

972
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: I got that Black. I'm like, man, I like sugar

973
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 1: Free and he was like yeah, this and this and that.

974
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 1: So Tone did a couple of songs. Don't even he

975
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: was working on ship and um, you know, like Tone,

976
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: we all from the same neighborhood or whatever. So I

977
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 1: was going back too quick and I was like, man, Quick,

978
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 1: you need to hear this ship, this sugar Free ship,

979
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: and I don't. He heard it and he was like, oh, yeah,

980
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 1: that sound kind of cool. It reminds me of like

981
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 1: like the Homie, you know, like Earl Ship like forty

982
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 1: and he was like, yeah, I got that vibe. He

983
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: was like. I was like yeah, it's like, no, you

984
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,479
Speaker 1: really need to hear this naked get down and seen.

985
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 1: So not trying to take the credit to my own horn,

986
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 1: but I got the niggas kind of like squash. The

987
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: differences of a settled without Quick end up coming to

988
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: the Black Tone Mom's house, in Compton and start working

989
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: on free Ship. Right there. The niggas got a vibe

990
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,399
Speaker 1: and it just kind of took off ever since. Then

991
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 1: changed his name to Sugar Free. And I told the

992
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 1: story before though about to get your money while you bush.

993
00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 1: And I was done in my studio in North Hollywood

994
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 1: and ship Quick was in my shower. He said, he

995
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 1: was in my shower and he heard my pipes. You know,

996
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,240
Speaker 1: the pipes when you're trying to off, they go cuck cuckoo.

997
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 1: And he said, the pipes was going clo clo, cuck

998
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 1: clu cuck cuck cuck clu cu cu cu cucko. The

999
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: nikka hopped out of my shower. And you know, I

1000
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: got showers and a couple of showers in the spot

1001
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 1: or whatever. Sw I'm in my ship just doing me

1002
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 1: or whatever, and I got equipment everywhere so we can

1003
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: just get up and rock. Because I kept the North

1004
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 1: Hollywood studio spot some otherfucker's I'll contact where I lay

1005
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: my head at with my family and how you know,

1006
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: you know that ship, I won't know everybody you know

1007
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: and there, so I kept that ship up there like that,

1008
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: Quick jump out the shower, bloom boo bloom bloom bloom

1009
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 1: boom bloom bloom bloom bloom bloom bloom boom bloom boom boom.

1010
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 1: And when he started working with that ship, bro I said,

1011
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: God damn almost funked up now because I told quick.

1012
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 1: I was like, nigga, don't get that ship to nobody.

1013
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 1: That's your new ship. You're back. You know, this is

1014
00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:00,760
Speaker 1: the new you're back on. And he was just rocking

1015
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 1: with you know, quicker, go for a beat. You here

1016
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 1: that my fucking rocket for forty eight dollars straight like,

1017
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: and then again I'm just bobbing my head to it

1018
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 1: like this ship. It's hard like this the ship. So

1019
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 1: the nigger free came over and he said, some ship

1020
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 1: a couple of lines, take times out of pimp you

1021
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 1: a house and you still won't know you want overuse.

1022
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 1: But man, this nigga starts saying this ship me and

1023
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: quickly like that at each other, like hell no, this

1024
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 1: this niked beat like to this day, right off the

1025
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 1: record in the club today it's still goes off like

1026
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:42,800
Speaker 1: it's like it's back in the nineties. Yep, it still

1027
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 1: goes off. So y'all got all this stuff going on, man,

1028
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 1: And and that that, and I think that's a big

1029
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 1: thing A lot of fans want to know. And I say,

1030
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 1: week as I was around doing them times, we could

1031
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 1: have had one of the most powerful cruise of all

1032
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 1: the time was everybody was on dog. Hell yeah, we

1033
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 1: still can. And all ninas had to do is put

1034
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: their differences to the side and just power up and

1035
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,320
Speaker 1: just do the ship like it's easy to do ship

1036
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 1: when you're doing it with a crew and you ain't

1037
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 1: got a late three verses on your song, you know

1038
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, you recording on him? You know this

1039
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 1: ship Still if I got to do three verses, I

1040
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: got to sit there and write three verses to a song.

1041
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 1: But if I'm doing a song like I put you

1042
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 1: on my album, I'm gonna do the first verse, Big

1043
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 1: still gonna do the second one, and Free or Quick

1044
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 1: might do to you know what I'm saying, the second

1045
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: to none and AMG might come and do this and

1046
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: it makes the ship easier. And then like I said,

1047
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 1: we get the exchange ideas and bounce it off of

1048
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: each other and ship like we always do. Because at

1049
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: one time, I know, at one time Quick was doing

1050
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 1: some stuff with death Row because he had this situation

1051
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 1: with Priority Records. Profile. Yeah, it was a profile. Yeah,

1052
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:46,399
Speaker 1: he was a profile, and I think he was making

1053
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: a transition from profile to airs to something like that,

1054
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: and they weren't letting him release no music. Yeah, it

1055
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 1: was something going on. I ain't gonna sit in here

1056
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 1: in a line about it. I don't remember exactly what

1057
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 1: was going on, but it was a transition between profile

1058
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 1: and then ARISTI with Claude Davis. He was, you know,

1059
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: because I know what I was gonna ask about this.

1060
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 1: He was doing a lot of stuff with death Row

1061
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 1: at that time. For sure, he was doing some stuff

1062
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 1: with death Row. And I know we speak on it,

1063
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 1: or we cannot speak on it, but you know, this

1064
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 1: was the Gangster Chronicles. We got to ask about it

1065
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: at one time. And I ain't gonna say what it

1066
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 1: was behind everything, but one time y'all wound up outside

1067
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 1: the gates of death Row Records, and it was because

1068
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 1: of you that didn't go down. You saw somebody knew

1069
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,919
Speaker 1: you and they was like craw with the hill going on,

1070
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 1: and y'all was cool. But she was the reason why

1071
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: it didn't really go as bad as it could have.

1072
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say part of the reason why But you know,

1073
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 1: when we went up there, man, it was just a

1074
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of fucking like tempers was flaring

1075
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 1: and and honestly, man, we went up there and it

1076
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 1: was like it was one of those things to where

1077
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 1: like if it if it would have been like a

1078
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 1: car backfiring or anything like a nigga would have shot

1079
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:01,240
Speaker 1: of firework off the ship that went real left Norman.

1080
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 1: She could have went bad home because Niggas was up

1081
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 1: there strapped up. Niggas is up there. And then we

1082
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,399
Speaker 1: found out later though I heard I don't know if

1083
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 1: that's true, but some niggas is on the roof, you

1084
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Else So we was on the

1085
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:17,760
Speaker 1: outside of the gate, you know, black Tone for sure.

1086
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 1: A couple of the homies. I don't even want to

1087
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 1: get on, you know if they But we was out

1088
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 1: there with the with the hoovers with the groove. The

1089
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: groove was with us on our side, and then we

1090
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:32,839
Speaker 1: was looking on the other side of the gate and

1091
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 1: it was some of the homies too. So when the

1092
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,399
Speaker 1: homies see me, he was like, man, what's up? Man?

1093
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 1: He said, Man, I'm up here and I don't even

1094
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 1: know what the fun going on. They just called me

1095
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 1: and I said, yeah, Ship, we just got the call

1096
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 1: to like, you know what I'm saying. You know, wh

1097
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 1: niggas get that call. So we're like we're there and

1098
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: ship and um man, dude, Like I don't know. It

1099
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: was just one of the things to like, like, bro,

1100
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 1: we we're the same type of niggas, you know what

1101
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 1: I'm saying, So we're not gonna be pressed. We're not

1102
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 1: trying to press, but we're the same type of motherfucker.

1103
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 1: So we wanted to see what's happening, Like what's good

1104
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: is the niggas Do we have to squabble up? Because

1105
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 1: I'm looking for the nigg of my size, you know,

1106
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,280
Speaker 1: I'm I'm there. I'm probably like one of the shortest

1107
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 1: niggas there. I'm like, okay, I'm gonna get down with him.

1108
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 1: I remember one of the homies from the Groove, uh,

1109
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 1: I think his name was Boom. He wanted to get

1110
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: down with Bounchy because then nigga about the same size.

1111
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:27,839
Speaker 1: And I just like how the ship was going far

1112
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 1: as that aspect of it, Like it wasn't know, like, oh,

1113
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 1: I'm looking for the weakest link or I'm trying to

1114
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 1: pick on the little with nigger type of ship and

1115
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:39,360
Speaker 1: and uh niggas had you know, strapped up ship and

1116
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 1: they and they waste bands and they. I mean, it

1117
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 1: could have got crazy, norm But Nigga is just really

1118
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 1: kind of knew, like, Okay, you you're working with some

1119
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: real niggas. They know we're some real niggas, and we're

1120
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 1: gonna let this ship. We're gonna figure this ship out

1121
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 1: and straightening out. And we end up getting that shipped straight, bro.

1122
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 1: But it could have went left it. That was. That

1123
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 1: was a real story. Like people talking about the ship online,

1124
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 1: but it was a real story. Like it was a

1125
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 1: real story. And you know, we ain't gotta mention the

1126
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 1: whole bunch of people's names and stuff like that, but

1127
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:10,839
Speaker 1: I knew it could have went down. That was. That

1128
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 1: was a scary time. Oh yeah, for sure. And I'm

1129
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 1: talking about broad daylight man. And they were saying that

1130
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 1: the police was driving by and then motherfucker' wouldn't even stopped.

1131
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 1: They were scared, like they looked at the ship. It

1132
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 1: was like so it was just a big It was

1133
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:25,839
Speaker 1: all out in the middle of the street like that.

1134
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: It was by the gates, you know, Wilshire it was

1135
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 1: by the gate. You know what the old death Row

1136
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 1: ship used to be. Yeah, because we used to go

1137
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 1: to death Row. Like Nigga's talk all the death Row ship.

1138
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:36,839
Speaker 1: But if he wasn't going to the to the death

1139
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: Row that was on the train tracks that I think

1140
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 1: that was a Canamn or whatever studio. That was the

1141
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,320
Speaker 1: Red Road. We haven't been all up through the motherfucker,

1142
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So and Nigga's weren't doing

1143
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 1: that back then. They wasn't really doing the death Row ship. Yeah,

1144
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 1: not know for the record, Tony should did it make peace?

1145
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 1: Eventually it was all good. Oh yeah, for sure, it

1146
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 1: was all good. And I'm gonna say this bro, And

1147
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 1: I never really said this ship on camera, But sug

1148
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 1: Is is a cool nigga bro. Like he one thing

1149
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:06,359
Speaker 1: about ship. He will go straight in your situation out.

1150
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 1: He will go figure out what's going on. A good nigga.

1151
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 1: And like always, niggas used to be like hey man

1152
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 1: called fat Boy fat Boy, that's what you know, the

1153
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 1: little nickname, or niggas before they called him Simon or

1154
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: whatever because Simon said to do something that niggas to

1155
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 1: do it or whatever. But shug was always a cool

1156
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 1: like me and Shugar always had the best relationship because

1157
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 1: he big old nigg and he always said, what's up, littlenigga,

1158
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:28,359
Speaker 1: Like like we was at the gate when the ship

1159
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 1: was about to go down. The nigga came out the

1160
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 1: gate that came to me and you know, tap me

1161
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 1: on the starting like I guess he was checking to

1162
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 1: see what kind of strapping or whatever. But what's up,

1163
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,359
Speaker 1: little nigga? I was like, what, man, what's the going on?

1164
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 1: If you wis got all this ship going on from

1165
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 1: the same you know niggas homies and ship you know so,

1166
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 1: but he always been a good nigga. Now the thing

1167
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 1: is to me, just my this is just my opinion. Normal.

1168
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 1: If you borrow something from shig if you asking Ship

1169
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:55,720
Speaker 1: for money, are you trying to come up on Shigar

1170
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 1: Are you trying to get it to me? If you

1171
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 1: asking for something, that that's when the ship get a

1172
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 1: little bit tricky, because Sugar is the type of saying, Hey,

1173
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you, I'm gonna put you in the studio,

1174
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 1: or I'm gonna give you. You know, you need to

1175
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 1: you know, Ship, you need to go do this and

1176
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 1: this and that that might slide it to you. But

1177
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 1: the first he wanted his bread back, and the first

1178
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,399
Speaker 1: time he called you and he said, hey, we're doing

1179
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 1: this uh Oprah Winfrey show and you need to come perform.

1180
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:25,959
Speaker 1: Oh man, I'm I'm down in Uh my car ain't

1181
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,280
Speaker 1: working and this and that all right? All right, blood,

1182
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 1: when you get up there again, you might get the

1183
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 1: ship slapped out of you might. Yeah, but I'm just saying,

1184
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 1: you're making the deal with the think of that. Ain't

1185
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 1: fucking around of playing those games, you know what I'm saying,

1186
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 1: So you gotta definitely know what the deal is you're

1187
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 1: dealing with. Yeah, And that's just and I ain't necessarily

1188
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 1: saying borrow money, but I'm just saying, if you ask

1189
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 1: him for something and you yeah, he's gonna deliver, so

1190
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 1: he expects the same in return. Bro. And that's the

1191
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 1: only thing I've seen with that's just once again my

1192
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 1: assessment of it and ship. You know, I think that's

1193
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,800
Speaker 1: most people's assessment from what I hear, because I'm hearing

1194
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 1: that anybody that did have a problem with Sugar, when

1195
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 1: you check the back story, they don't got money from him,

1196
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 1: they don't try to take advantage of them somehow, and

1197
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 1: he just wasn't going for oh not at all. And

1198
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:14,799
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, the way the music in

1199
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 1: the three is designed, you need a sugar night and

1200
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,319
Speaker 1: you need a Tony laying around. Yeah, And I want

1201
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 1: to touch on Black Tone a little bit because Tone

1202
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:23,839
Speaker 1: don't never really get the credit he deserved as far

1203
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 1: as being an executive because at one time he had

1204
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:29,360
Speaker 1: had his label on the streets. Hell yeah, and no

1205
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:31,799
Speaker 1: I ain't. Once again, I'm doing the interview, but bro,

1206
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 1: I'm not too my own horn. But Tone was like

1207
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 1: more of a dude that was getting He had his

1208
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 1: own businesses in the eighties, Bro, like the car shops

1209
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 1: and all this ship. Tone do business like. He was

1210
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 1: a businessman in the beginning. But the Nigga street you know,

1211
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 1: Tone was like you know ship like they called him

1212
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 1: Osama being lad. That's that's black black hat businesses. He

1213
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:56,839
Speaker 1: wasn't even thinking about the record ship. And I used

1214
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:58,959
Speaker 1: to always tell him he was like raw man, funk

1215
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 1: this music. Man, I don't want to be dealing with

1216
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 1: all these weird you know, don't say everybody he's a

1217
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 1: buster as then you know that man ain't dealing with

1218
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 1: all these buster as, weird niggas and ship like the

1219
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 1: Man the niggas, and I'm like, Black, you got too

1220
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 1: much influence out here on these streets, Homey, you gotta

1221
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 1: do something. And He's like, man Crawf, I don't feel

1222
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 1: like dealing. I'm end up slapping the shoot out. You know.

1223
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 1: I'm blo. I'm gonna slap the shoot out of one

1224
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 1: of you. Keep up playing with me, I said, tone, No, bro,

1225
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 1: And I was the one that norm that I kept.

1226
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 1: I kept. I was in the nigga ear in the

1227
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 1: nigga ear. Well, that's why I'm asking you about the

1228
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 1: crow because for y'all to don't know out there, Craft

1229
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 1: should have been named the Fixer. A lot of situations

1230
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 1: that got resolved, a lot of situations that got fixed

1231
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 1: was him behind the scenes, really convincing somebody not to

1232
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 1: make that next move or to make that next move

1233
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 1: for show Man. And that's just how I am in

1234
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 1: my harbor. I'm I feel like, you know, piece the

1235
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 1: nigga by the ship. But if I can bring peace

1236
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 1: or squat some ship or just some stupid ship, did

1237
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 1: this nigga say something about your mama? No, didn't He

1238
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 1: can say nothing about your mama, knowing that the nigga did.

1239
00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 1: I'm just that type of nigga that try to dare

1240
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 1: the ship for it escalate. But I was pushing the line, Black,

1241
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 1: you need to do this, do this. So he ended

1242
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 1: up just getting into the ship. That's how the Sugar

1243
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 1: Free you know, Wallsburg was it there for a time? Man?

1244
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 1: That um Lane Way and death Rog almost got linked

1245
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 1: up in any kind of way. Was there some talks

1246
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 1: to that um man? You know what, I like, like, uh,

1247
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 1: Black and Sugar you should talk, you know what is

1248
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 1: cool whatever? Black and Sugar used to talk. And I

1249
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 1: don't even know if I was I think Black told me.

1250
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 1: I don't even know if I remember the whole story,

1251
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 1: but Black told me I was kind of like one

1252
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 1: of the first ones to kind of get them to

1253
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 1: talk because we heard something. I forgot what should had

1254
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 1: of something? Black and I'm like, man, this should and

1255
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 1: he was like man who and this and this and

1256
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 1: that and knowing that his people stayed on the east

1257
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 1: side or whatever, and the twins and all that. I

1258
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 1: don't know how the ship win, but we always was

1259
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 1: in the mix with each other, and I think they

1260
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 1: used to talk about trying to do something together and

1261
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:00,040
Speaker 1: and you know, like when you deal with two of

1262
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:03,919
Speaker 1: the funders, that's just the juggernauts of the era. They're

1263
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 1: gonna respect each other like gentlemen. You know, real niggas

1264
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 1: moved like gentlemen, and ship don't be don't know all that,

1265
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 1: but I think they always had to think of like

1266
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do my ship over here, this is my empire,

1267
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 1: and should had this empire already, And that's kind of

1268
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 1: how it always been. But I knew it was kind

1269
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 1: of probably some talks are like like should always be

1270
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 1: like man, bt you know, bet blood come over with me,

1271
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 1: understand ship and like, I don't know, but I know

1272
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 1: it was some talks, But I don't know if how

1273
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 1: far that ship was sometimes to the realist king sit

1274
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 1: in the same room, you know, some some sometimes it

1275
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 1: just don't happen like that, man, And I know it

1276
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 1: was a lot of success throughout the years. Man, what's

1277
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 1: the most what's the biggest moment that you remember? Man?

1278
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 1: Just music wise, from the whole crew, what's the biggest moment? Uh? Man,

1279
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 1: one of the biggest moments I could say that was

1280
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 1: like just to me, that was dope. Like it was

1281
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:00,479
Speaker 1: just a moment, man, it was like, God damn this ship.

1282
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 1: It's like live when we did the Summer Jam or

1283
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 1: one of them, I think it was Summer Jam and

1284
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 1: the LDD bars came out. You've seen that footage, the

1285
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 1: old footage over and we was all out and that

1286
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 1: it was just like you looked to the back of

1287
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 1: the crow. You couldn't stop seeing motherfucker's. That's how many

1288
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 1: people was there where it was just waves and waves

1289
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 1: and waves of people. It was just waves and motherfucker's

1290
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 1: And it was like when they came out, they knew

1291
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 1: all of the high Sea Ship, they knew all of

1292
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 1: the Second and None ship, they knew all of the

1293
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 1: a MG ship. Of course, they knew all the quick ship.

1294
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:36,439
Speaker 1: And then they didn't even think that the Nigga would

1295
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 1: bring out eld bars. And when the eld D bars

1296
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 1: came out, it was like, I swear I saw girls

1297
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 1: in the crowd naked. That's what I thought I saw.

1298
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie, was throwing their paintings on. Like

1299
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 1: this ship was crazy and it was like one of

1300
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 1: those moments to where and normally you know how I move, man,

1301
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 1: I'd be most of the time I'd be by myself

1302
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 1: or whatever. But I'm always humble and and I really

1303
01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:00,080
Speaker 1: feel like it's a blessing and then continue blessed and

1304
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 1: to be in the game like that, you know, to

1305
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 1: make it. I feel like I tell people sometimes it's

1306
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 1: like hitting the lotto, if you hit the lot of

1307
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 1: you and this ship. A lot of motherfucker's dope motherfucker's

1308
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 1: never made it for sure, never made it, Just like

1309
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 1: playing ball. The badest motherfucker's don't make it because the

1310
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 1: niggers probably can't read or they got to get a

1311
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 1: you know, some system that they made those and they've

1312
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 1: gotta have an A plus to be average or whatever,

1313
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 1: which to me don't want. Some people just don't want

1314
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 1: to buy by the bullshit, because whenever you're in music,

1315
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 1: sports there's a lot of bullshit. It is bro and

1316
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 1: to me sometimes I think it's the way to level

1317
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 1: the play and feel like why I got to be

1318
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 1: a scholar. If I know how to shoot this ball

1319
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 1: or I know how to you know, do Hooper write

1320
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 1: this song? I don't need to be getting no straight

1321
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 1: they I don't need to know rocket science to do

1322
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 1: this ship. You know what I mean, I do what

1323
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:45,920
Speaker 1: I do good, and I don't be no fucking dummy

1324
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 1: and let people rip you off and take your money.

1325
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 1: But to me, it was like, okay, I'm not gonna

1326
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 1: let him get this scholarship because he didn't carry this

1327
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 1: particular grade average, you get what I'm saying. But he

1328
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 1: dope as fucked. So now he comes to motherfucker with

1329
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 1: less talent might your white boy, It's like, okay, you

1330
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 1: can get this, you know, because you're you're a scholar

1331
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 1: or a student, but you can't boop like him. But hey,

1332
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 1: it's a spot for you, m So you know I

1333
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 1: should go. Man, Yeah for sure. You know. One of

1334
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 1: the things that we will say about black tone, you know,

1335
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 1: we gotta have the black people always talking about the

1336
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 1: negative that somebody do right, but black tone man, like

1337
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 1: I said, he got me my first check as far

1338
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 1: as my first place. Man, you got me my first

1339
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 1: piece of money, you know, like you know, coming to

1340
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:32,440
Speaker 1: business and everything and taking me on the road and everything.

1341
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 1: And you know what they asked me about Noir, the

1342
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 1: Malibu is most wonted? Is that big steal in there

1343
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 1: when you was on the on the movie. Yeah you

1344
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 1: got me, Yeah, I went up there and Um, I

1345
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 1: never will forget that day. I went up there with

1346
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:47,959
Speaker 1: you on some hanging out stuff. You was like norm

1347
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 1: with audition, and that's when they had to let's go

1348
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 1: in the room kind of battling each other. Yeah, we

1349
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:55,439
Speaker 1: got to go in there, and I wanted to wash

1350
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 1: Chenie's ass, you know, because Chene was in there. He

1351
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 1: was talking about some being and I don't even remember

1352
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 1: Cheney being there shout out, that's my boy. Many was

1353
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 1: up there, man, you know, you know, thank god I

1354
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 1: wound up getting that feature. You know what I mean,

1355
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 1: you're in that moment. That was a nice look check

1356
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 1: at text that we're still getting to this day. Yeah,

1357
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 1: we still get that check, you know, we still get them. Yeah,

1358
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 1: to this day, man, we get them checks. Man. It

1359
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 1: was a bunch of cats up there that day. That's

1360
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 1: how I am. Man. I if I can make some bread,

1361
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 1: I'm a break bread with tommies. That's how I'd be, like,

1362
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, for sure, man, And I want to

1363
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 1: go back because I think we got to talk about this. Man.

1364
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 1: Y'all linked up at the Rodium. That's for your first

1365
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 1: man's Yeah, when did y'all decide? When did y'all start

1366
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:43,959
Speaker 1: making records together. Man, I'm gonna be honest. When I've

1367
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 1: seen Tony like start scratching and mixing, and he knew

1368
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:49,600
Speaker 1: a ship because when you look at tone, it's like

1369
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 1: back especially back then, I'm like, I don't know if

1370
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:55,960
Speaker 1: this motherfucking no, you know, like, do he really like

1371
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 1: you know how like we was young, you know, you're

1372
01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 1: sizing my fuck up, just like this ship with the

1373
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:02,480
Speaker 1: street ship, like you you can see how the nigga

1374
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 1: walk or how you move or how you how you act,

1375
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 1: Like Okay, this is this is real one rka cool.

1376
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 1: This ain't even affiliate like kind of like that. So

1377
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 1: I kind of just looked at him and I was like,

1378
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if if I don't know if he

1379
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 1: really you know, got it, you know what I'm saying.

1380
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 1: So the motherfucker start mixing and doing this little shit.

1381
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:22,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, God damn, this is motherfucking though. And he

1382
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 1: knew how to blend records and he was scratching and

1383
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 1: ship and I'm like, oh, hell yeah, I'm gonna funk

1384
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 1: with him. And we just started recording. Man, and I

1385
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 1: went to Womanton went to his house, and it just

1386
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 1: took it from there. Man, we just kind of build

1387
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:38,640
Speaker 1: a relationship. Yeah, So he was from a real because

1388
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 1: at that time Womanton was women want to be played with,

1389
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 1: you know women. So for Shure, like we was out

1390
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 1: there doing ship and we just took it from there. Bro.

1391
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 1: It was like he impressed me, bro, like with some

1392
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:56,919
Speaker 1: of his mixing skills and like the ship he could

1393
01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 1: do with scratching this and that, and then his producing

1394
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 1: and he just had a knowledge of ready to get

1395
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 1: all of like the like the oldie type of hits

1396
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:07,360
Speaker 1: and ship. And I was kind of like the first

1397
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 1: one that because my thing is like I like to

1398
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:11,640
Speaker 1: paint pictures and tell stories and ship like that. So

1399
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 1: he was the type that will find this like Okay,

1400
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 1: let's just do this or this and this will go

1401
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 1: good with that and just putting ship together on the

1402
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:21,440
Speaker 1: mix tapes. And also like when that motherfucker was doing

1403
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:24,959
Speaker 1: the mix tapes, that's when you know he got ice cube.

1404
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 1: I think to get down on one um dre easy,

1405
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 1: the one we do easy e uh. Like man, everybody

1406
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 1: like you said that was coming here looking for vinyl

1407
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 1: and ship like that. You know what crazy thing about

1408
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:44,760
Speaker 1: that Crows is you always had a really really huge

1409
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:48,080
Speaker 1: Mexican audience. Yeah, you know, like Parks said, it wouldn't

1410
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 1: be La without the Mexican So shut out to all

1411
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 1: the Mexican armies. This out there doing a thing, and

1412
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 1: I think something that was real genes that you did.

1413
01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 1: You know Mexicans love the oldies. Yeah, they loved most

1414
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:03,440
Speaker 1: cats loved. Yeah, what made you all decide the sample?

1415
01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 1: I'm not your puppet man? Who who was that man?

1416
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:09,240
Speaker 1: I think we started off doing that ship on the

1417
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 1: mix tape, and the reaction of the response that we

1418
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 1: got from that ship, from the mixtape version of it,

1419
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 1: it was like it was automatic. It was like we

1420
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 1: got to do this on the recording and go in

1421
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:22,280
Speaker 1: the studio and do it professionally. And we did it

1422
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 1: at uh uh Audio Achievements. I think it was Donovan's student.

1423
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 1: We did n w A was doing and they had

1424
01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 1: the top notchi equipment and I got to look at

1425
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:38,400
Speaker 1: some of Dr Dre ship and seeing that Dre, I've

1426
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:41,080
Speaker 1: seen what you was doing, Dre years ago. This nigger

1427
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:43,680
Speaker 1: had and I could tell it now because I know

1428
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 1: drein even tripping away. He had an eight oh eight

1429
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:49,480
Speaker 1: that was meetied up and if people don't understand, you

1430
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 1: don't understand, don't even think about it. But the mid

1431
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:54,640
Speaker 1: cable to a fucking eight oh eight, and I'm like, this,

1432
01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 1: dude is not playing like every time that eight oh

1433
01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 1: eight hit, it's coming right out the machine. It was fresh.

1434
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:02,040
Speaker 1: I'm that's how they should be sounded so cracking. But

1435
01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 1: we went in there to record I'm Not Your Puppet

1436
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:07,760
Speaker 1: and came out with that sound. That's why I sound

1437
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:10,240
Speaker 1: like sonically clear and ship like that. It was like

1438
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:13,120
Speaker 1: one of those records that that everybody was like, man,

1439
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 1: when it's coming out. We had to do it, so

1440
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 1: shot the video at the Rhodium. It was just automatic

1441
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:23,960
Speaker 1: as dope. Dog. Do you think that's your biggest record

1442
01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:27,080
Speaker 1: to date? I think it is, bro, I really think

1443
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 1: it is. I really think that's, like, you know, one

1444
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 1: of the biggest records today that that I did. And

1445
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 1: just you know, all the features that we did on

1446
01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:38,000
Speaker 1: each other ship, Like on quick album we got Medley

1447
01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 1: for a v like Snoop Me and Snoop was on

1448
01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 1: the air and g like all of us the older

1449
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:44,760
Speaker 1: bars like them records like people don't hardly know about.

1450
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 1: But I was just thinking about that the other day,

1451
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:50,280
Speaker 1: like all the features that we did with different motherfucker's. Man,

1452
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:52,680
Speaker 1: it's like we got so much ship. Bro, Yeah, we

1453
01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:55,680
Speaker 1: we definitely. Man, Well, I'm gonna do everybody. I'm gonna

1454
01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:58,680
Speaker 1: go outside. I'm gonna go over Cross House one day

1455
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:00,480
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna go in to vote y'all and I'm

1456
01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 1: gonna steal all them songs he got that he don't

1457
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:04,240
Speaker 1: want nobody to hear, because I'm gonna tell y'all he

1458
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 1: got some heaters in there. Man, for sure, Are we

1459
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:11,000
Speaker 1: ever go get any more high seat music? Man? You

1460
01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 1: know what I really be feeling like? You know when

1461
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 1: I get that inch norm you know how we are

1462
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:18,799
Speaker 1: we gyminizing ship, get that itch man and that ship

1463
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:22,479
Speaker 1: turned on and you get that creative juice, you just might. Man,

1464
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:25,439
Speaker 1: that's one thing about You're not gonna put a record

1465
01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:27,120
Speaker 1: out before his time. And you just don't go on

1466
01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 1: the studio for the sake of going to the studio.

1467
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 1: Hell no, because I ain't pressed like that. Like to me,

1468
01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:33,240
Speaker 1: when you're pressing and you're trying to do this, and

1469
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 1: you gimmicky and you want to do I gotta do this,

1470
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:39,040
Speaker 1: or I gotta do that or or motherfucker's that try

1471
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:42,360
Speaker 1: to bait motherfucker's into a battle and ship. I've never

1472
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:44,679
Speaker 1: been that type of motherfucking Oh did he say something

1473
01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:46,680
Speaker 1: about me? Or did he? Was he dissing me? I

1474
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:49,599
Speaker 1: gotta diss him, like all that old bullshit to me.

1475
01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:51,880
Speaker 1: And if that's how you live, don't get me wrong,

1476
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:55,080
Speaker 1: that's more power to you. But I don't look around

1477
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:56,880
Speaker 1: like that. I do it when that ship feel good

1478
01:08:56,880 --> 01:08:59,400
Speaker 1: and it feels natural, like let me get in here

1479
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:02,760
Speaker 1: and this is it I feel like doing at the time. Yeah,

1480
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:05,479
Speaker 1: for real, man, And you've always been consistent with that too,

1481
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 1: always been consistent with that. I remember when I came

1482
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 1: with my first album and I like you. He was like, Norman,

1483
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:13,240
Speaker 1: you've got one got one time to put your first record.

1484
01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:14,720
Speaker 1: You need to do this and that over again. I

1485
01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:17,120
Speaker 1: was mad, but I went back and you did, man,

1486
01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:19,960
Speaker 1: and I appreciate you for that. And I remember that

1487
01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:22,559
Speaker 1: ship like yesterday you called me, was like, I got

1488
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:25,599
Speaker 1: ten songs, I'm ready. I'm like, norm, hold on, you're

1489
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:29,160
Speaker 1: gonna do ten songs three times before you're gonna do

1490
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:31,439
Speaker 1: ten songs five times. You're gonna have fifty of the

1491
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 1: motherfucker's before and then you called me back. Remember what

1492
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:35,560
Speaker 1: you said? He was like, yeah, crawf right, because I

1493
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:37,640
Speaker 1: don't even like that other ship. I did something. I'm like,

1494
01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:39,559
Speaker 1: you should hear this new ship, and I'm like, damn,

1495
01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:42,320
Speaker 1: nor got some ship. Yeah I did, man. You know what,

1496
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:45,599
Speaker 1: that's one of my biggest regrets. Dogs. I think when

1497
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:49,639
Speaker 1: you're younger, you're getting the race for time, especially when

1498
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:52,160
Speaker 1: you start hitting that twenty nine thirty year old mark.

1499
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:54,760
Speaker 1: You get this kind of like thinking that I need

1500
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 1: to put this out before I get you old, because

1501
01:09:56,479 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 1: you know hip hop, man, it's a young man's game.

1502
01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:01,920
Speaker 1: It is. But now you've got brothers like Hole he

1503
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:05,240
Speaker 1: fifty something, he's still out there tearing down microphone. You

1504
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:07,920
Speaker 1: got the Whoop Tang class. They're still putting up music

1505
01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:09,920
Speaker 1: and you know some of them acting. I think it

1506
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:12,800
Speaker 1: comes to a thing. Man, when you get older, you

1507
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 1: start expressing your creativity in different ways that because you

1508
01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:19,360
Speaker 1: the growth. Yeah, it's growth. It's like it's like I

1509
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:21,559
Speaker 1: don't have no desire now to put out no records

1510
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:23,600
Speaker 1: or nothing like that. Dude, I think this is my

1511
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:26,719
Speaker 1: thing right now, like creating content. No, that's and you

1512
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 1: you're smashing this ship. No, I'm like, I tell everybody,

1513
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:31,439
Speaker 1: man still got this ship cracking. But to me, no,

1514
01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:33,120
Speaker 1: let me let me just say this, or I ask

1515
01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:38,519
Speaker 1: you a question, like I understand why people retire in sports.

1516
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:40,880
Speaker 1: So they want them to retire because your reflex is

1517
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:45,599
Speaker 1: your quick twitch muscles and ship like that. You can lose,

1518
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:48,640
Speaker 1: you know, you lose mobility, you get injured. You can

1519
01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:53,360
Speaker 1: fund yourself up in the in the music game, or

1520
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:57,040
Speaker 1: or or the hip hop game, or any genre of music. Like,

1521
01:10:57,160 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 1: why do we have to retire because season now I'm

1522
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:04,000
Speaker 1: gonna even say, oh that we veterans. My throat didn't

1523
01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:07,200
Speaker 1: get like, I still I speak well. I feel like

1524
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:11,080
Speaker 1: I'm intell intelligent enough to make songs. I can do this.

1525
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:13,840
Speaker 1: I can still create. So I ain't gotta go out

1526
01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:16,760
Speaker 1: here and jump or slam dunk or run no motherfucking

1527
01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:20,360
Speaker 1: uh for two in the forty or do whatever the

1528
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:22,200
Speaker 1: fuck you know what I'm saying. So why do they

1529
01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 1: put this label on us? It's hip hop? Like we

1530
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:26,519
Speaker 1: got to do that. I know the attention span and

1531
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 1: the lifespan of some of the hip hop ship is short,

1532
01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:33,559
Speaker 1: but you look at that bands like the Stones or

1533
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:39,960
Speaker 1: Chicago and motherfucker's love them. Bro, even answer it for

1534
01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:42,599
Speaker 1: you Cross right now. You know what I believe it is, Bro.

1535
01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:45,519
Speaker 1: I think it's something that within our people, our culture, right,

1536
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:50,439
Speaker 1: Black people don't respect um. I'm trying to find the

1537
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:53,680
Speaker 1: right word. They don't respect maturity almost because if you

1538
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:56,640
Speaker 1: look at the average brother today that's online. You know,

1539
01:11:56,720 --> 01:12:01,120
Speaker 1: some of these guys online, these dudes anywhere from forty

1540
01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:04,320
Speaker 1: five years old acting like little kids. They acting like

1541
01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:09,160
Speaker 1: the nineteen eighteen year olds, um and and I almost

1542
01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:12,320
Speaker 1: think that's an insult to the younger generation because some

1543
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:15,280
Speaker 1: of these people is more immature than my five year

1544
01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 1: old niece. You know what I'm saying. They have like

1545
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:19,720
Speaker 1: they act like on the level they almost like borderline.

1546
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 1: If you looked at him, you would say, Man, are

1547
01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:24,120
Speaker 1: these people retarded? Because that's just what they do. You've

1548
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:25,680
Speaker 1: got a lot of people and I think us as

1549
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:27,840
Speaker 1: Black people, man had always come back to the Willie

1550
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:31,439
Speaker 1: Link stuff. We hate to see We hate to see

1551
01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:34,400
Speaker 1: the next man shine rather than applaud, you know, rather

1552
01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:39,200
Speaker 1: than applaud because theoretically, I think the older people get,

1553
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:42,360
Speaker 1: the better they bars get. They've seen more, they've been

1554
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:45,760
Speaker 1: around the world, you know, they've got more experience. So

1555
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 1: I think that's why. Now you can probably hear some

1556
01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 1: of jay Z's best music. You hear some of what's

1557
01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 1: that kid's name? Being the kid? But he older dude, Man,

1558
01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 1: I think he was signed to brock Nation. Man, that

1559
01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:58,559
Speaker 1: dude is a beast. Though I can't think of his name.

1560
01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 1: He only put out one album. But that dude is

1561
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:06,320
Speaker 1: in his fifties. Man, he row looking sugar free, sugar

1562
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:10,280
Speaker 1: free Damn Nick sugar Freed almost got a resurgence going

1563
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 1: now and sugar free in his fifties and he's nasty. Man.

1564
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:16,800
Speaker 1: To me, it should always be about your music, man,

1565
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:23,040
Speaker 1: you know, change change as that. If he ain't in

1566
01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:25,479
Speaker 1: his fifties, he's up there, And I think, man, what

1567
01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:27,439
Speaker 1: it is is that you just got to create a

1568
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:30,360
Speaker 1: character like Snoop Dogg is probably the biggest rapper of

1569
01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:34,759
Speaker 1: all time brand wise. You know everybody knows Snoopy Snoop

1570
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:37,720
Speaker 1: ain't no Spring Chicken. But he's going forever being able

1571
01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:39,880
Speaker 1: to go on stage and make music. I think because

1572
01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:42,479
Speaker 1: he's always stayed in character. I think that's all you

1573
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:44,559
Speaker 1: gotta do is just stay in your character. Too short.

1574
01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:46,719
Speaker 1: I was listening to too short when I was sixteen

1575
01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:49,040
Speaker 1: and seventeen years old, too short still making the same

1576
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:51,640
Speaker 1: music and might wrong to have a hit record on

1577
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:54,519
Speaker 1: yours and short dog is dope, man, it's forty is

1578
01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:57,200
Speaker 1: the same way we was on the road with him

1579
01:13:57,200 --> 01:14:00,519
Speaker 1: when he was going out man and watching uh forty

1580
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:03,639
Speaker 1: and short man like sing their songs and the whole

1581
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 1: crowd responding no word for word. And then I'm sitting

1582
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:09,599
Speaker 1: up here looking at the forty his features and ship

1583
01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:11,559
Speaker 1: like he got all this ship at the time, and

1584
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:13,720
Speaker 1: ship and all that. But then he jumped on the

1585
01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:16,000
Speaker 1: ship with I don't funk with you, like all this

1586
01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:20,200
Speaker 1: new ship, and it's like he touching both both worlds.

1587
01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:21,719
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. The same thing was Short

1588
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:23,400
Speaker 1: when he was doing the ship, but you know what

1589
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:26,479
Speaker 1: he was doing, the collaborations and the features and ship

1590
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:29,960
Speaker 1: like people funk with him like just off the rip, bro,

1591
01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 1: Like it's crazy how they gravitate towards them dudes. Man, Well,

1592
01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:36,320
Speaker 1: I think what's happening now man, that you're getting the

1593
01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:39,400
Speaker 1: resurgence because you've got a lot of younger kids, the

1594
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:44,280
Speaker 1: casts in their twenties, five years old, twenty six, They

1595
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:46,760
Speaker 1: grew up listening to that that they grew up. So

1596
01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 1: now they've got an opportunity to collab with one of

1597
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:51,320
Speaker 1: their favorite artists. And I think that's how I was going.

1598
01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 1: Because Forty Steele got barrows. You can't tell me he

1599
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:57,320
Speaker 1: forty can't wrap no more because he years old or

1600
01:14:57,320 --> 01:15:02,360
Speaker 1: whatever's the time. I don't at that ship bro and

1601
01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 1: a voice ain't slow down. My throat still good, And

1602
01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:08,920
Speaker 1: I think it should be a personal choice, man, because

1603
01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:12,120
Speaker 1: I still right wraps for a lot of people. I don't.

1604
01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:14,040
Speaker 1: You know. Of course, I can't just put it out

1605
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:16,200
Speaker 1: there and say what else necessarily because you gotta keep

1606
01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:19,080
Speaker 1: stuff on the low. But I write a lot of stuff,

1607
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:23,080
Speaker 1: and I'll actually write my dopest stuff. It's like because

1608
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:26,320
Speaker 1: I've been more places of sound, experience more things, and

1609
01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:28,360
Speaker 1: I'm talking from a place of what I know versus

1610
01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:30,320
Speaker 1: when I was you know, when I was broke, I

1611
01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 1: was talking about having money I've never seen. And now

1612
01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:35,479
Speaker 1: get a little bit me. You didn't went to Japan

1613
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:37,360
Speaker 1: and ship together. You haven't been on the other side

1614
01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:40,280
Speaker 1: of the motherfucking O. For sure, have experienced some things

1615
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:43,240
Speaker 1: that's gonna stay over thein't Japan? You know what I'm saying,

1616
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:46,760
Speaker 1: don't talk about this ship. Nor we don't need to

1617
01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:49,240
Speaker 1: talk about dog. Some stuff we don't need to talk about.

1618
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:52,479
Speaker 1: But I know Japan. The thing about Japan, man, is

1619
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:55,320
Speaker 1: they treat you like you a guy over there. We

1620
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 1: went over there, man, they was treating Crawford like Crawford

1621
01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:00,680
Speaker 1: was getting treated like a king over there. Crazy and

1622
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:04,200
Speaker 1: they like the second album I did. It was like

1623
01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:06,280
Speaker 1: really like one of the big albums over there that

1624
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:08,960
Speaker 1: they funk with, and I appreciate it. I'm ready to

1625
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:11,680
Speaker 1: go back now when you're already bro in China. You

1626
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:13,760
Speaker 1: know China as well. China got some ship too, o

1627
01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 1: for sure. But one of the things I'm gonna start doing, Bro,

1628
01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:20,240
Speaker 1: we gonna start doing over here digital Soapbox is we

1629
01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:23,120
Speaker 1: gotta streaming network coming to twenty four hour music channel

1630
01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:25,879
Speaker 1: that's coming out like um, I think we launched in September,

1631
01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:29,000
Speaker 1: late September, early October. One of the things we're doing,

1632
01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:31,320
Speaker 1: it's gonna be kind of like MTV was, but it's

1633
01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:33,439
Speaker 1: gonna be all hip hop, all hip hop and rap.

1634
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:35,760
Speaker 1: You know, we gonna be showing our podcasts on that.

1635
01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:38,320
Speaker 1: We got original series we're doing. But one of the

1636
01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:40,519
Speaker 1: things that I am bringing back, man, is we gonna

1637
01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:44,479
Speaker 1: start shooting music videos to classic classic songs. We actually

1638
01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:46,720
Speaker 1: go go get artists, and we got a couple of

1639
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:50,760
Speaker 1: people that's re recording classic albums like, um, we got

1640
01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:54,640
Speaker 1: eight He's gonna re record straight Up Menace, you know

1641
01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:57,599
Speaker 1: the album. He's gonna record the album. And Uh. One

1642
01:16:57,600 --> 01:17:00,559
Speaker 1: of the things we talked about doing was like taking

1643
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:02,200
Speaker 1: a song like growing Up in the Hood that's a

1644
01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:05,920
Speaker 1: classic and putting scarface on there and shooting a whole

1645
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:07,600
Speaker 1: new video for it and just bringing it to this

1646
01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:10,479
Speaker 1: whole new generation because a classic is gonna always be

1647
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:12,840
Speaker 1: a classic. You don't matter time with this, bro, It's

1648
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:14,280
Speaker 1: gonna always be climates. And one of the things I

1649
01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:16,880
Speaker 1: always gonna holid at you about is doing redoing one

1650
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:20,000
Speaker 1: of your classic albums. That's easy, the same music, doing

1651
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:23,160
Speaker 1: a thing, but just getting different features on their different look.

1652
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:25,320
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I think that would be dope. Man.

1653
01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:27,479
Speaker 1: That's easy to do because I got my own masses,

1654
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:29,760
Speaker 1: you know, on the ship, So you know that's what

1655
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:31,160
Speaker 1: I want to do. When you do that, I want

1656
01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:33,000
Speaker 1: to be the anchor on the on the video ship,

1657
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:35,439
Speaker 1: you know. MTV used to have I forgot my man name.

1658
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:36,760
Speaker 1: Used to be the anchor. He used to be on

1659
01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:39,320
Speaker 1: everything and be like this is the videos and tune in.

1660
01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:43,920
Speaker 1: Sure I got you his anchor on there. I've been

1661
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:47,160
Speaker 1: telling you everything I'll do. You included in on bro man,

1662
01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:50,320
Speaker 1: let's rock. You know what I'm saying. And I appreciate

1663
01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:52,360
Speaker 1: you coming down and sit down will be the day dog.

1664
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:54,599
Speaker 1: Y'all don't know this interview don't been a long time

1665
01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:58,679
Speaker 1: in the making. But Crawford really was a big busy guy.

1666
01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:01,200
Speaker 1: He's a busy got got a lot of business is

1667
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:04,120
Speaker 1: going on. We got a car dealership, different stuff like that. Man,

1668
01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:07,000
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff going on. So y'all be on

1669
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:08,760
Speaker 1: the lookout, man, because I'm gonna you know, he like

1670
01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:11,120
Speaker 1: to lock nest monster. He only come out of the

1671
01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:13,040
Speaker 1: water every few years. But I'm just trying to pull

1672
01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:14,559
Speaker 1: them out a little bit more. Yeah, I'm gonna come

1673
01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:16,720
Speaker 1: out a little bit more. And I'm working with me,

1674
01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:19,040
Speaker 1: no family, my loved ones. I can come out and

1675
01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:21,160
Speaker 1: be safe, you know, man, Yeah, for sure, And um,

1676
01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:23,160
Speaker 1: I know you don't got no social media channel, so

1677
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:25,080
Speaker 1: I guess when people see you, they gets running to you.

1678
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:28,240
Speaker 1: For sure. I haven't got no social media to give

1679
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:31,080
Speaker 1: you off of my guy, y'all. Just so I don't know,

1680
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:33,160
Speaker 1: y'all get out of my guests on the gangs of

1681
01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:37,960
Speaker 1: chronicles page or whatever. Relate the message, just good messages,

1682
01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 1: and I relate the message. Man. So is it anything

1683
01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:42,400
Speaker 1: out there that, man, that you want to lead to

1684
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:46,599
Speaker 1: the people? Man before we jump up off of here, man, Man, honestly, bro,

1685
01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:50,320
Speaker 1: I just I like to hear new ship. I like

1686
01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:54,360
Speaker 1: to hear a new vision, a new direction of ship.

1687
01:18:54,439 --> 01:18:57,640
Speaker 1: So what I want to say to just just this

1688
01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:02,120
Speaker 1: ship right here, man. Far as like the music in

1689
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:04,400
Speaker 1: the streets, and I'm starting to notice that the streets

1690
01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:09,559
Speaker 1: and more tied into the music now, and it's more like,

1691
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:12,559
Speaker 1: you know, like I hear the term that they're using.

1692
01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:14,920
Speaker 1: It's not our term, but the gang gang. You've heard

1693
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:18,400
Speaker 1: them say that ship, you gang gang, Like we don't

1694
01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:20,479
Speaker 1: say that ship out here, and it's not not no

1695
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:23,360
Speaker 1: knock on it or whatever. But we used to hit

1696
01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:26,000
Speaker 1: niggas up like, hey, where you froming? You bang? You

1697
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:28,960
Speaker 1: you bang? Are you gang? That same ship? Whatever? But

1698
01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:31,120
Speaker 1: I'm starting to see a lot of that ship is

1699
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:34,160
Speaker 1: entwined into the culture. Man, And It's just one of

1700
01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:37,760
Speaker 1: those things to where you gotta really, to me, be

1701
01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 1: about that ship and know what you're doing before you

1702
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:42,160
Speaker 1: start doing all this ship bro. And if you're not

1703
01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 1: really about that, like, you don't need the funk with

1704
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:49,120
Speaker 1: that to be up. You got dudes like um like

1705
01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:54,240
Speaker 1: uhn J Cole. That's to me like a cool niggas

1706
01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:58,479
Speaker 1: that wrap their ass off. That's doing very well without saying, Hey,

1707
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:02,040
Speaker 1: I'm from blank blank blank A care I'm affiliated with this.

1708
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:06,400
Speaker 1: You got dudes that's that's in the ship, like the

1709
01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:08,759
Speaker 1: homie from from the neighborhood, but here about that ship,

1710
01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:11,920
Speaker 1: y g that's that's the homie, say from the same

1711
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:14,640
Speaker 1: neighborhood or whatever, but he about that ship. Those are

1712
01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:18,720
Speaker 1: two different artists on two different paths. But you could

1713
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:20,920
Speaker 1: tell that this dude is about the ship because that's

1714
01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:23,519
Speaker 1: what he talked about. J. Cole is about that ship

1715
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:26,320
Speaker 1: and that's what we talked about. So to me, I

1716
01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:28,720
Speaker 1: want dudes to find a lane. I wish they would

1717
01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:31,760
Speaker 1: find a lane. Don't just talk about the same ship.

1718
01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:33,680
Speaker 1: How many times we're gonna be in the street, how

1719
01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:35,920
Speaker 1: many times we're gonna do this, how many times I

1720
01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:38,400
Speaker 1: want to hear some new ship. I want to hear

1721
01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:41,080
Speaker 1: some ship like when Wu Tang came out and it

1722
01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:43,400
Speaker 1: was just like a crewe motherfucker's doing something different. They

1723
01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:46,759
Speaker 1: took the karate ship and made a whole motherfucking career

1724
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:49,040
Speaker 1: out exactly. That's what I'm looking for. What I'm saying.

1725
01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:50,680
Speaker 1: You know what's funny about you saying that I was

1726
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:53,800
Speaker 1: telling somebody. The other thing is when do we go

1727
01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:59,559
Speaker 1: get another bone thug, you know, just somebody to come

1728
01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:03,280
Speaker 1: out with something that's so different. I'm waiting on that

1729
01:21:03,320 --> 01:21:06,000
Speaker 1: ship now, That's what I'm like. So that's like I'm

1730
01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:09,599
Speaker 1: gonna close with kind of with that ship. And I'm

1731
01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:14,880
Speaker 1: really surprised at how And it's no not because a

1732
01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:17,040
Speaker 1: nigga from where he fund we did the whole street

1733
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:18,960
Speaker 1: ship or whatever, like you said, we don't grow man

1734
01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:24,160
Speaker 1: and business ship now, but I'm surprised at how like

1735
01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:28,720
Speaker 1: they're making this this street ship so like acceptable and

1736
01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:31,040
Speaker 1: it's cool and this and that, and it's just so

1737
01:21:32,120 --> 01:21:35,880
Speaker 1: like to me, it's kind of like water down or sugarcoated,

1738
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:39,559
Speaker 1: like just like the gang ship like that's and then

1739
01:21:39,720 --> 01:21:42,559
Speaker 1: it reaches out of out of California like I don't.

1740
01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:45,240
Speaker 1: I don't want that ship to be out in the South.

1741
01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:47,280
Speaker 1: I don't want that ship to be on the East Coast,

1742
01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:51,800
Speaker 1: and I don't want that shipped to be you get

1743
01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:54,400
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. No, don't get me wrong, because it's

1744
01:21:54,439 --> 01:21:57,440
Speaker 1: my fucker's that then put it on the line. It's reputable,

1745
01:21:57,560 --> 01:22:01,840
Speaker 1: reputable motherfucker's in every city restate. But it's just a

1746
01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:05,320
Speaker 1: certain way that you carry let their own way. Like

1747
01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:07,080
Speaker 1: when I go down to New Orleans, I don't want

1748
01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:09,320
Speaker 1: to see no crips and bloods down. I want them

1749
01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:12,200
Speaker 1: doing their stuff and calling us whoa and doing their thing.

1750
01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:14,800
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, because that's the coach or let me

1751
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:16,760
Speaker 1: get some of that culture. Let me get some of that.

1752
01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:18,960
Speaker 1: The East Coast, let me get some of that, you

1753
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:21,400
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. That the the up North ship,

1754
01:22:21,479 --> 01:22:23,360
Speaker 1: let me get some of that that Chicago, let me

1755
01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:25,240
Speaker 1: get you know what I'm saying. It's like, but we

1756
01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:28,640
Speaker 1: can do that ship without being you know, funked up

1757
01:22:28,680 --> 01:22:31,120
Speaker 1: towards each other, turning up on each other or whatever,

1758
01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:34,479
Speaker 1: because the Nigga is still then touched all these different cities.

1759
01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:37,280
Speaker 1: And like I said before, but like we talked about

1760
01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:39,320
Speaker 1: at the death Row Ship. The real nigga recognized. The

1761
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:41,960
Speaker 1: real nigga we pull up in any hood. We ain't

1762
01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:44,719
Speaker 1: coming to disrespect, and we ain't coming to say all

1763
01:22:44,720 --> 01:22:46,320
Speaker 1: we in your hood, this and this and that. We

1764
01:22:46,400 --> 01:22:49,000
Speaker 1: come with respect. So when you come out here, you're

1765
01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:50,800
Speaker 1: gonna get the same respect from us. You get what

1766
01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:53,320
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But we want to go to Chicago and

1767
01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:57,200
Speaker 1: get the Herald's chicken. We want to go to uh

1768
01:22:57,320 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 1: to uh St. Louis and ship and go into into

1769
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:02,080
Speaker 1: the Pink Slip. The pink slip, I heard clothes down.

1770
01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:04,360
Speaker 1: That's a stress. I don't the real nigga know what

1771
01:23:04,360 --> 01:23:06,080
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. But you know what I'm saying. You

1772
01:23:06,120 --> 01:23:08,400
Speaker 1: want to go over there and get your your experiences.

1773
01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:10,080
Speaker 1: Like you said, you want to go to the quarters

1774
01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:12,439
Speaker 1: and get you some Benyat's. And you know what I'm saying.

1775
01:23:12,439 --> 01:23:15,519
Speaker 1: You want to keep you want to keep the coachure authentic.

1776
01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:18,200
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, the crypton blood and stuff is

1777
01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:20,080
Speaker 1: a West Coast thing. And not to say that the

1778
01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:22,360
Speaker 1: brothers in Kansas City, because they're doing it. They've been

1779
01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:24,160
Speaker 1: doing it since the eighties. Now at this point, you know,

1780
01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:27,000
Speaker 1: you know they've been banging out there for thirty or

1781
01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:31,000
Speaker 1: forty years now, and I think what happened was the

1782
01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:33,519
Speaker 1: old dope routes. They kind of went out there and

1783
01:23:33,520 --> 01:23:35,600
Speaker 1: they brought their coature out there, the different people and

1784
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:37,240
Speaker 1: that kind of just still the test of time and

1785
01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:40,560
Speaker 1: stayed out there. But I hope people stay authentic to

1786
01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:42,880
Speaker 1: what their culture real. And I think that's what you're saying.

1787
01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:47,519
Speaker 1: That's exactly what I'm saying, bro, because I'm honestly norm

1788
01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:51,120
Speaker 1: I'm the nigger that was in content. But I listened

1789
01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:55,240
Speaker 1: to a lot of hip hop from from fucking um

1790
01:23:55,479 --> 01:24:01,800
Speaker 1: KRS one two UM, I mean everybody, bro, like uh

1791
01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:05,280
Speaker 1: j Ice, I mean dudes that's back in the day

1792
01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:07,760
Speaker 1: g rap I listened to all that ship. Bro. I

1793
01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:10,599
Speaker 1: was one of them to Slick Rick all the ship

1794
01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:13,599
Speaker 1: that was kind of like the master aththing. I mean

1795
01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:15,880
Speaker 1: a lot of New York. I was influenced by a

1796
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:18,160
Speaker 1: lot of the East Coast ship honestly, Bro. And it

1797
01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:20,720
Speaker 1: was like to meet them dudes was just dope and

1798
01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:25,200
Speaker 1: how they create ship. My nigga j Ruda Dammager and

1799
01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:27,920
Speaker 1: that was one of your biggest New York was one

1800
01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:31,439
Speaker 1: of your biggest York for sure, man, they funked with me. Man.

1801
01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:33,679
Speaker 1: And it's it's funny like when I see a couple

1802
01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:36,000
Speaker 1: of dudes, Like sometimes I run into method Man and

1803
01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:38,240
Speaker 1: he would be like high seat, you know, Like we'll

1804
01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:40,000
Speaker 1: be like yeah and he's like oh yeah, like he

1805
01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:42,800
Speaker 1: give me that, Like uh, like I heard you, you know,

1806
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:45,439
Speaker 1: like the nod and ship. So I'm like, you know,

1807
01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:48,800
Speaker 1: we was listening to their ship. We was influenced by it.

1808
01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:50,920
Speaker 1: Now it seem like it's just the l A ship

1809
01:24:51,080 --> 01:24:53,960
Speaker 1: is like touching everybody for us? Is you know the

1810
01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:57,559
Speaker 1: street culture ship man? And I just I'm just looking

1811
01:24:57,600 --> 01:25:00,200
Speaker 1: at it, like, bro, if that's not really you lead

1812
01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:03,120
Speaker 1: that ship along, Let the real nicks do that. There's

1813
01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:05,479
Speaker 1: other ways to get your bread. You know what, Before

1814
01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:07,200
Speaker 1: you go, I'm gonna ask you this question, Bro. You

1815
01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:09,519
Speaker 1: can answer it whether you want to or not. What

1816
01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:12,160
Speaker 1: do you think about the whole thing where cats, certain

1817
01:25:12,200 --> 01:25:15,000
Speaker 1: cats is going online trying to expose cats for snitching

1818
01:25:15,080 --> 01:25:19,320
Speaker 1: and all that type of stuff. Man, you think that's dangerous? Man,

1819
01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:22,599
Speaker 1: then who ship we gotta hold? Look, it's a whole

1820
01:25:22,600 --> 01:25:26,240
Speaker 1: another motherfucking five guy. But it's like to me, I'm

1821
01:25:26,240 --> 01:25:27,920
Speaker 1: gonna say it like this like the old people used

1822
01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:31,320
Speaker 1: to tell us, if you can't do the time, don't

1823
01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:34,280
Speaker 1: do the crime. So if you're getting out here fucking

1824
01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:36,760
Speaker 1: around and you know some ship, don't look at what

1825
01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:39,439
Speaker 1: you're gonna gain or what you're about to win. Look

1826
01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:41,280
Speaker 1: at what you jeopardize. And then you're about to leave

1827
01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:43,599
Speaker 1: your kids behind? Are you about to leave somebody behind

1828
01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:47,200
Speaker 1: or your son behind or whoever the fuck because you

1829
01:25:47,320 --> 01:25:49,280
Speaker 1: got in this moment, or you got in your feelings

1830
01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:51,120
Speaker 1: or you wanted to try some dumb ship or some

1831
01:25:51,200 --> 01:25:55,800
Speaker 1: stupid ship, think about what you're gonna lose before you

1832
01:25:55,880 --> 01:25:57,719
Speaker 1: think about what you're gonna gain or what you're about

1833
01:25:57,720 --> 01:25:59,680
Speaker 1: to do, and turn up. And I'm saying that to

1834
01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:02,639
Speaker 1: say it won't put you in a position to where

1835
01:26:02,720 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 1: you have to get down on somebody or you have

1836
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:08,160
Speaker 1: to snitch on somebody, because you know how to go.

1837
01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:11,400
Speaker 1: When they started saying, oh, well, hey you're looking at

1838
01:26:12,439 --> 01:26:16,439
Speaker 1: are you looking at thirty? And most mothercker's like thirty?

1839
01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:20,040
Speaker 1: I can't do thirty? So such as such, did Black

1840
01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:22,080
Speaker 1: Black Blake x y Z. You know what I'm saying.

1841
01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:24,559
Speaker 1: When they started hitting them with the big jersey numbers,

1842
01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:27,360
Speaker 1: this ship, the oh you got you looking at fifteen,

1843
01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:32,280
Speaker 1: but the real motherfucker's nor Hey you're looking at twenty.

1844
01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:35,880
Speaker 1: Come on with it, Come on, that's that's the way

1845
01:26:35,920 --> 01:26:38,120
Speaker 1: to be. But but what do you think as far

1846
01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:44,920
Speaker 1: as cats going online and actually pointing people out. Man,

1847
01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:48,840
Speaker 1: it's a tricky situation because you pointed. But look at

1848
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:51,400
Speaker 1: what you just said, right, you point the nick out

1849
01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:54,200
Speaker 1: for snitching. But what you're doing when you're pointing the

1850
01:26:54,240 --> 01:26:58,040
Speaker 1: figure you snitched on the snitch. Because what I was

1851
01:26:58,080 --> 01:27:01,320
Speaker 1: always told bro, you know uncles man, they stayed in

1852
01:27:01,320 --> 01:27:05,280
Speaker 1: the penitential and they told me this exactly. They said, Man,

1853
01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:08,680
Speaker 1: if you go expose somebody, you gotta be willing either

1854
01:27:08,800 --> 01:27:11,960
Speaker 1: handle your business or don't say nothing at all. It

1855
01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:13,760
Speaker 1: was one of them things like handle your business that

1856
01:27:13,800 --> 01:27:17,240
Speaker 1: don't say about So I feel I agree he right

1857
01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:20,320
Speaker 1: about that, because if I'm saying this nigga snitching, I'm

1858
01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:23,920
Speaker 1: snitching that he's snitching. Yeah for real. And if I

1859
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:26,000
Speaker 1: know he funked up, you know what, the best bet,

1860
01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:28,880
Speaker 1: the best thing to do is my best bet, stay though,

1861
01:27:29,040 --> 01:27:32,200
Speaker 1: fuck away from this knee Like I don't funk with

1862
01:27:32,240 --> 01:27:35,720
Speaker 1: you affiliated like you can't call me as I'm just

1863
01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:38,760
Speaker 1: yeah for real and there it is. And y'all be

1864
01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:40,840
Speaker 1: on the lookout man, because Crowt don't say it to me.

1865
01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:42,840
Speaker 1: You can't want to show. I got witnesses. We gotta.

1866
01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:44,639
Speaker 1: We got a lot of people to listen to this man.

1867
01:27:44,680 --> 01:27:46,840
Speaker 1: So y'all, I got witnesses. Now crossing when I hit

1868
01:27:46,920 --> 01:27:49,160
Speaker 1: you up and say, hey, man, I got the shooting

1869
01:27:49,160 --> 01:27:51,320
Speaker 1: schedule ready, we're about to do this thing. I want

1870
01:27:51,320 --> 01:27:53,439
Speaker 1: to do something on the roadeum for sure. Man, Let's

1871
01:27:53,479 --> 01:27:54,840
Speaker 1: do it big. Still. You know I love you, man.

1872
01:27:54,840 --> 01:27:56,280
Speaker 1: You the only nigger that could put me out the

1873
01:27:56,280 --> 01:27:58,719
Speaker 1: cut man and just make me come out. Man, whenever

1874
01:27:58,760 --> 01:28:00,400
Speaker 1: you call them coming, you do. You put up the

1875
01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:04,000
Speaker 1: best thing on me for shore. So y'all heard him,

1876
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Speaker 1: and we out of here. Hell yeah,