Speaker 1: Look out. It's only films to be buried with. Hello,
Speaker 1: and welcome to films to be buried with. My name
Speaker 1: is Brett Goldstein. I'm a comedian, an actor, a writer,
Speaker 1: a director, a legume and I love films. As Abraham
Speaker 1: Lincoln once said, I'm a success today because I had
Speaker 1: a friend who believed in me and I didn't have
Speaker 1: the heart to let him down. It's sort of like
Speaker 1: how Sam Gee Whiz or whatever his name is believed
Speaker 1: in Frode or something or nothing. Yeah. I'm not an
Speaker 1: expert on Lord of the Rings, but that does sound
Speaker 1: about ry. Abraham Lincoln didn't know you were a fan.
Speaker 1: Every week I invite a special guests over. I tell
Speaker 1: them they've died. Then I get them to discuss their
Speaker 1: life through the films that meant the most of them.
Speaker 1: Previous guests include Barry Jenkins, Kevin Smith, Sharon Stone, and
Speaker 1: even Bed Brambles. But this week it's the Amazing comedian
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Speaker 1: You have to be there to see it. Jaman So
Speaker 1: Rob Deering, Rob Deering, Rob Deering. Rob Deering is a
Speaker 1: brilliant comedian, musician, runner, podcaster and writer. I met him
Speaker 1: when I first started to stand up, had loads of
Speaker 1: gigs with him, loved him then, I love him now.
Speaker 1: He's fucking brilliant. He now has I think two different podcasts,
Speaker 1: one where he runs and discusses music to Run to
Speaker 1: You and one where he runs with the other excellent comedian,
Speaker 1: Paul Tomkinson. He's got books out, he's got it all
Speaker 1: going on, and he's so brilliant and he's so lovely
Speaker 1: and I really really enjoyed getting to spend some time
Speaker 1: with him again. Hadn't seen him for a while. It
Speaker 1: was a real pleasure. I think you're gonna like this one.
Speaker 1: So that is it for now. I very much hope
Speaker 1: you enjoy episode one hundred and ninety six of Films
Speaker 1: to be Buried With. Hello, and welcome to Films to
Speaker 1: be Buried With. It is me Brett Goldstein, and I
Speaker 1: am joined today by a podcaster, a writer, a actor,
Speaker 1: a music quizzer, a musician, a runner, a book writer,
Speaker 1: and most of all, extraordinary comic. Please welcome to the show.
Speaker 1: It's the wonderful, the beautiful, the glorious. He's only here,
Speaker 1: it's here with himself. It's mister Rob Deering. Hi. Oh yeah, thanks, thanks, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I see how that works. Now I feel comprehensively bigged up.
Speaker 1: How are you, Rob Deering? Good? Yeah? Right, My ego
Speaker 1: is huge. It's like a it's like a barrage balloon. Now, now,
Speaker 1: Rob Deering, I ain't seen you in a while. It's
Speaker 1: lovely to see you, but I was thinking of something.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember this, but you did
Speaker 1: a great act of kindness for me once, which to
Speaker 1: tell probably sounds quite weird. But I think it was
Speaker 1: like fourteen years ago. It could have been fourteen years ago,
Speaker 1: and I want to check this. I was writing, working
Speaker 1: on a script that had kids in it, and my
Speaker 1: sister didn't have any kids, and my friends didn't have
Speaker 1: any I didn't know anyone. I didn't know any kids,
Speaker 1: and for some reason, you and I were talking and
Speaker 1: I said to you, can I study your kids? Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I need to know what children are like. And
Speaker 1: I came around your house and we picked up your
Speaker 1: kids from school and we spent the day studying your children.
Speaker 1: It is absolutely yeah. The thing is you were really
Speaker 1: worried that this was a weird thing to ask, and
Speaker 1: you know because on paper to your listeners right now,
Speaker 1: yeah maybe, but I completely understood. And what's more, for
Speaker 1: better or worse, my kids are totally gregarious. They're they're
Speaker 1: the right kids for the job, and like you say,
Speaker 1: they were little, so I just thought, you know, it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, talk to Brett and they're like, okay, off
Speaker 1: we go, la la la. So I don't know how
Speaker 1: representative of kids they were, but it was. It was
Speaker 1: right up the deering family street. So you're welcome. Well,
Speaker 1: in a way, your kids were so lovely and funny
Speaker 1: and nice that they were like movie kids that this
Speaker 1: doesn't seem realistic kids. I'm gonna have to change this. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean I can't, you know, I agree. I think
Speaker 1: they're absolutely marvelous and obviously, like like most parents, I
Speaker 1: think they're the best ones. But yeah, they're not necessarily
Speaker 1: representative of their generation. You also told me something and
Speaker 1: I was thinking how I would word this so it
Speaker 1: didn't I figured out how to say it so that
Speaker 1: it doesn't out anyone. But you told me something that's
Speaker 1: stuck with me, and I think ever since I've asked
Speaker 1: parents about it. Where we were talking blino nature versus nurture,
Speaker 1: and you said about your two kids, and you know,
Speaker 1: the same parents, same loving home, same love in which
Speaker 1: they were brought into the world. And you said one
Speaker 1: of them, and I won't say which was born with
Speaker 1: a certain personality trait again, I won't say what, And
Speaker 1: you said, and they were just born that way. And
Speaker 1: you were just like, oh, wow, that's there. They they're
Speaker 1: going to be like this regardless of how we raise them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think when it comes down to it, you're you're
Speaker 1: being too obliquent. I don't know what I don't know
Speaker 1: what trait we're talking about, and exactly what you mean,
Speaker 1: because again remembering when they're really little, and actually they
Speaker 1: were tiny at the time, but it was still late
Speaker 1: in the day that I cottoned on. My wife pointed
Speaker 1: out to you one day, quite close in age my kids,
Speaker 1: they're like a year and a half apart, so when
Speaker 1: they were kind of two and three or three and
Speaker 1: four something like that, my wife said to me, of
Speaker 1: course they like completely opposite things. They're completely opposite people.
Speaker 1: And I was like, of course they are. They're totally
Speaker 1: opposites of each other. And I've never got there before
Speaker 1: because they're not. They don't they don't bump. They're excellent
Speaker 1: friends and they really get on. It's just that if
Speaker 1: you asked them about anything anything from like I don't know,
Speaker 1: popular music to Marvel DC to Marmite, they would have
Speaker 1: opposite opinions, you know, And that's just so nature, isn't it,
Speaker 1: Particularly as they get on, and they're part of our
Speaker 1: family and everything, but they're they're opposites. Do you think
Speaker 1: that they're more opposites because they're brother and sister, as in,
Speaker 1: do you think that their opinions are in direct relations
Speaker 1: to each other? As in, my brother likes marmite, So
Speaker 1: I won't. No, I don't think so. I think the
Speaker 1: opposite is true, in neither of them particularly conformed to
Speaker 1: any in the wider scheme of things, either conformed to
Speaker 1: any particular gender stereotypes. And in terms of within the house,
Speaker 1: I think the fact that their brother and sister gives
Speaker 1: them and the fact that they're different gives them a
Speaker 1: distance so that they get on. So they're they're kind
Speaker 1: of non competitive as a result of their difference. So
Speaker 1: it's like the reverse of what you said. I love that. Also,
Speaker 1: what's weird is I feel, I was going to say,
Speaker 1: I feel like we're talking about them as these little tots,
Speaker 1: and they are the most biggest, most grown up children there.
Speaker 1: And my daughter's about to be sixteen and my son seventeen. Also,
Speaker 1: he is like, here's me. He's like that, he's several
Speaker 1: inches taller than me and quite a lot wider he's
Speaker 1: like he's strapping. It's impressive and kind of slightly scary.
Speaker 1: In fact, when I told him this morning about my
Speaker 1: difficult journey last night, he gave me a hug and
Speaker 1: I found very looked after. Indeed, these are in a
Speaker 1: fluffy onesie and I was like, oh, thank you, you're
Speaker 1: my emotional support animals, So you know, the hands on
Speaker 1: the other foot, and then yeah, my daughter slightly younger,
Speaker 1: but she could. She could run the world starting tomorrow
Speaker 1: a few if you wanted her too. So they didn't
Speaker 1: become scary, horrible teenagers. No, No, they're they're great. They're teenagers,
Speaker 1: but they're great. And also Lockdown was amazing because we
Speaker 1: always got on as a family. But it was kind
Speaker 1: of good timing because I think we'd never really been
Speaker 1: all been together at the same time. So I think
Speaker 1: if we were all sick of each other, it could
Speaker 1: have been a bit of a flashpoint. But actually, because
Speaker 1: we've never had sustained time together as kind of four
Speaker 1: basically four grown ups, we liked it and then we
Speaker 1: got we got into it. And I tell you, we've
Speaker 1: watched a lot of films like this. It's a phrase
Speaker 1: you don't hear enough, lockdown was amazing. Yeah, no, it
Speaker 1: went well for us. I mean obviously highs and lows.
Speaker 1: I think schooling was really tough for them. I think
Speaker 1: their school did really well and got better. But equally, yeah,
Speaker 1: we enjoyed our house. We enjoyed each other's company. I
Speaker 1: enjoyed the break from touring and you know, and all
Speaker 1: those things that we're doing this, doing that. You know,
Speaker 1: me and my wife did yoga every day. I wrote
Speaker 1: a book. It was a special time. And you're a
Speaker 1: runner a very so, as it turns out, you don't
Speaker 1: expect these things happen to you. And also, I'm so
Speaker 1: I'm really crivocal about it because people say people being
Speaker 1: boring about running is such a thing, and yet I am.
Speaker 1: I am not safe from that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I've got two podcasts about it, I've written a book
Speaker 1: about it, and if you look at my timelines on
Speaker 1: the socials, I'm like, oh, I see, yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1: That's what I talk about, That's what I do. My
Speaker 1: only claim, my only hope is that I'm that I'm
Speaker 1: the runner. You know, I'm not interested in talking about
Speaker 1: numbers or laps or interval sessions. I'm talking about what
Speaker 1: songs I listened to, and what birds and flowers I saw,
Speaker 1: and where I went, and how much I reminded myself
Speaker 1: of people of Matt Damon in the Born Supremacy. So
Speaker 1: at least hopefully it's a it's a it's a deering angle.
Speaker 1: I'm running. I remember when you did your first marathon.
Speaker 1: I've forgotten this until just now, and you did it.
Speaker 1: You you felt like dissatisfied with it, you were surprised,
Speaker 1: how much like it didn't make you feel happy at
Speaker 1: the end of it, so you had to do it again.
Speaker 1: Do you remember that? Yeah? Yeah, absolutely, I didn't like it.
Speaker 1: I mean I completely said never again and meant it,
Speaker 1: which apparently, again I'm not the only person who ever
Speaker 1: did that. But I went off really fast, and went
Speaker 1: off like a rat out of a trap, and then
Speaker 1: had this odd balance where I knew I could still
Speaker 1: get a good time if I just crawled the last however,
Speaker 1: you know, the last however many miles and I never
Speaker 1: so I kept sort of stopping and then just running on.
Speaker 1: And I couldn't handle the crowds. People say, oh, it's
Speaker 1: so great. You've got all the crowds and all the
Speaker 1: support and it's true. I mean, I think I've done
Speaker 1: in London marathon like eight times now and I love it.
Speaker 1: I think it's fantastic. But that first time, when I
Speaker 1: was all tired and feeling angry with I'm not sorry
Speaker 1: for myself, angry with myself, and everyone's going, go on,
Speaker 1: you canna do it, I was like, shut up, you
Speaker 1: don't know me. You know my dad. And I think
Speaker 1: also as comics, you know, one gets a bit more
Speaker 1: blas are about having an audience. I think you're you're
Speaker 1: people doing a marathon are like, it's so great to
Speaker 1: have a crowd cheering. He's like, I've had crowds cheering me.
Speaker 1: Go away with heckles. What would you fucking say? I
Speaker 1: was just saying, go on, mate, I'm proud of you, yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, oh yeah. Well I come to where you're
Speaker 1: running a marathon and shout at you yeah yeah, and
Speaker 1: knock the trainers off your feet. So yeah, I said,
Speaker 1: never again. And I am now in a week a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, I'm running my eighteenth marathon and I'm
Speaker 1: trying to get to twenty this year this year, so
Speaker 1: you're gonna do three this year? Yeah? I don't know
Speaker 1: what happened to me. That's very okay. One one marathon question.
Speaker 1: Do you plan a playlist for the marathon or do
Speaker 1: you have no music? What do you do? I'm very
Speaker 1: much into running listening to music. It used to be
Speaker 1: always music, and then I'll get into running and talking.
Speaker 1: And that's how I got into. First of all, it
Speaker 1: start running with Paul Tomkinson and talking, and then that
Speaker 1: became a podcast where we run and talk, and then
Speaker 1: I realized that that's a good thing. So I've run.
Speaker 1: I've done quite a lot of running chatting with strangers
Speaker 1: because people who supported my book did that and I
Speaker 1: met them, you know. But basically, my number one is
Speaker 1: running with music. So my playlist for a marathon, my
Speaker 1: playlist for running basically is an enormous It's a huge playlist,
Speaker 1: but totally curated, so I always get a surprise, but
Speaker 1: it's always a song I wanted to hear, and these
Speaker 1: days I've been trying quite hard to share that. So
Speaker 1: first of all, that's what my books about running tracks.
Speaker 1: It's runs listening to specific songs in specific places. And
Speaker 1: then I've since then, I've been doing this other podcast,
Speaker 1: the Running Tracks Radio Hour, where I and host a
Speaker 1: playlist and honestly, you know, putting my own marketing feelings aside.
Speaker 1: I've done a few of those now, and those playlists
Speaker 1: are fantastic. I want the world to know. I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously I would like them because I chose them, but
Speaker 1: they're quite eclectic, so I think everyone would find something
Speaker 1: and it's reinvigorated. It's the second time my love of
Speaker 1: music has been reinvigorated by running, because you know, when
Speaker 1: I started running, what mid to late thirties. I mean,
Speaker 1: I love music, music is my life, but I hadn't
Speaker 1: really I wasn't really listening to much new music, and
Speaker 1: I was listening to like re released CDs of albums
Speaker 1: that have when I was growing up in the car.
Speaker 1: You know, I got into running, I started finding new
Speaker 1: music just I just needed so many more songs. I
Speaker 1: just dug in. And when you dig in, you get
Speaker 1: better at listening to new stuff and diverse stuff. And
Speaker 1: then and then a second wave of that is when
Speaker 1: I started doing this radio show. Honestly, my own playlist
Speaker 1: from my making playlist for other people that next time
Speaker 1: we're doing marathon, I'll just be listening to Rob Doings
Speaker 1: running tracks because it's there's a thousand of them, a
Speaker 1: nesting perth. Yeah, how many songs are in your marathon playlist?
Speaker 1: It will be in four figures hopefully thousands, definitely a
Speaker 1: thousand plus. Wow. I won't listen to all of them
Speaker 1: because that would take too long. Then you'd be quite
Speaker 1: slow at the marathon. Yeah, you'd make quite a bad
Speaker 1: time if you. If you'd finished the playlist, I'd be
Speaker 1: like one of those people seeing the news that, like
Speaker 1: you know, when someone someone did it on their knuckles
Speaker 1: for the gorillas, someone else did it just as a
Speaker 1: deep sea diver. And then it'd be like that, you know,
Speaker 1: see coming on the news kind of eight days later
Speaker 1: and I'm like, wow, what did you do? It's like
Speaker 1: I just listened to my music. I stopped at a hotel,
Speaker 1: I slept down a couple of nights sleep. I really
Speaker 1: wanted to know what the next track was going to be. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Rob Deering, I've forgotten to tell you something. What's that?
Speaker 1: And I should have told you. I should have told
Speaker 1: you earlier, probably before we were talking about the running um,
Speaker 1: but I feel like a dickhead. I just have to
Speaker 1: say it. You died. Oh oh, yeah, that is bad news. Dead.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, dead, Okay, how did you die? Give me
Speaker 1: a minute. I didn't even know I had thinking back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was. Well, now I come to think of it,
Speaker 1: I think I know what happened. I was in a
Speaker 1: little detail. I was there. I was in a small
Speaker 1: country village where I grew up. You know, it's one
Speaker 1: of those places, little church, a little bit of shop,
Speaker 1: old lady doctor, you grew up in Sylvanian families. No,
Speaker 1: it was humans. There were humans. I think there was
Speaker 1: one hedgehog. And anyway, there there was something sinister going
Speaker 1: on around the place. I wasn't really tuned into it.
Speaker 1: And then someone I knew and trusted came to see me,
Speaker 1: and I said, oh hello, And I don't think I'm
Speaker 1: kind of seeing it from my own point of view,
Speaker 1: so I don't even know how it was. But I
Speaker 1: definitely knew and trusted him and said something like, oh hi,
Speaker 1: what are you doing here? And then I don't know
Speaker 1: whether they stabbed me or shot me because I couldn't
Speaker 1: even see. I can just see my own face with
Speaker 1: a sudden look of shock. And that's it. What I'm
Speaker 1: saying is I think I was the second murder in
Speaker 1: a little village murder mystery. You were midsummer murdered. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you want to know more about who it was
Speaker 1: and how it happened, you're going to have to talk
Speaker 1: to Bergier act or Miss Marple or someone. Because it's
Speaker 1: too late for me. I'm in the back garden looking
Speaker 1: confused before the second efforts. You're the first guest I've
Speaker 1: had he's been midsummer murdered. I think, to be fair,
Speaker 1: I was miss marpled. It's you who you were missed? Yeah,
Speaker 1: my god, isn't it in the dream. I feel quite
Speaker 1: happy about it. Really. I feel like I'm part of
Speaker 1: the great heritage. I just wish I knew who it was.
Speaker 1: You're definitely added to a list somewhere and you'll get
Speaker 1: your own wiki page. You know. It's something. Do you
Speaker 1: worry about death? No, I don't think I do. I
Speaker 1: worry about getting old. And there's a there's a there's
Speaker 1: a sliding scale, isn't it? Because I worry about I'm
Speaker 1: aware of time, you know. I kind of think, oh,
Speaker 1: I must do that. If I really want to do that,
Speaker 1: I should really do it, because I'm not I'm not
Speaker 1: immortal or like, Oh I did that? That was really
Speaker 1: good I probably never do that again. You know, that's
Speaker 1: a that's a kind of vague sense of mortality, isn't it.
Speaker 1: But no, I don't. I don't worry about it. Well,
Speaker 1: it's about time you did, too late, int it. What
Speaker 1: do you think happens when you die? Oh? I am
Speaker 1: pretty confident that we merged once again with the nothingness.
Speaker 1: You know what you can remember from before you were born. Yeah,
Speaker 1: assuming you're not in the kind of showing the Clane
Speaker 1: line of things and that kind of just nothing at all,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm expecting. Well, sorry if that's a bit
Speaker 1: of a dark perspective. No, I mean it's it amazes
Speaker 1: me that you're like, you don't really you're cool with it.
Speaker 1: I'm cool with just murdering with the nothingness. Well, you
Speaker 1: know it's all good in it. Well, well, I've got
Speaker 1: news for you, actually, robbed hearing. You're completely encouraged. I've
Speaker 1: got to tell you. The last thing you told me
Speaker 1: was pretty bad news. So I'm hoping this is good news.
Speaker 1: This is good news. I think there's a heaven. There's
Speaker 1: a heaven. I called that completely wrong. Yeah, and they're
Speaker 1: very you're very welcome there. They're actually really big fans
Speaker 1: of yours. They love your work. They love the fact
Speaker 1: that you offer up your children as a scientific display.
Speaker 1: They love everything you do. They also love they love
Speaker 1: your playlist. They're like, where does it play this for
Speaker 1: the next millennia. It's filled with your favorite thing. What's
Speaker 1: your favorite thing? Running? I just want to run and
Speaker 1: run and run. They're my favorite thing. What you mean
Speaker 1: apart from films? Yes, apart from films, because they literally are.
Speaker 1: That's the problem. I think nice places to run and
Speaker 1: films and you know, somewhere as long as in the
Speaker 1: evenings in heaven, I can have a beer whilst making
Speaker 1: a nice dinner and listen to some good music. Is
Speaker 1: that on the card? You know what? Your heaven's pretty
Speaker 1: fucking sweet. It's got long, long, beautiful nature runs. You've
Speaker 1: got you've got your bridges, you've got your lakes, you've
Speaker 1: got your seas. I love. I've got to tell you,
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of Victorian engineering. They were all
Speaker 1: over the running. We've got toe paths and disused railways
Speaker 1: with all the sleepers taken away. Yeah yeah, yeah, all that,
Speaker 1: that's all. They're brilliant. And there's screening rooms and at
Speaker 1: the back of them, there's you can have you brought
Speaker 1: your own beer and make your food or whatever it
Speaker 1: is that you do, and they're delighted. They're delighted to
Speaker 1: have you there, and they want to talk about your life,
Speaker 1: but they want to talk about your life through film.
Speaker 1: The first thing they ask you is, what is the
Speaker 1: first film you remember seeing Rob Deering? Oh wow, okay,
Speaker 1: well I saw. I'm sure it's not the first film,
Speaker 1: but it was so iconic that I definitely remember going
Speaker 1: was Star Wars. And that's why, to this day I
Speaker 1: always referred to it as Star Wars as opposed to,
Speaker 1: you know, A New Hope or anything like that. But
Speaker 1: I'm talking about Star Wars episode for a New Hope.
Speaker 1: And I saw that the cinema and I think I
Speaker 1: would have been five w so that was quite full on.
Speaker 1: And because I do remember seeing those, you know, those
Speaker 1: steaming corpses, the ones that have had all the flesh
Speaker 1: burnt off their body, Uncle Owe and Aunt Beru, I
Speaker 1: totally remember them. So that does suggest that it was
Speaker 1: a bit scarring, because oh, that's what a flame Showard's
Speaker 1: corps would look like, and says says Daring, age five.
Speaker 1: But I loved it. You know, I love Star Wars
Speaker 1: and it's funny enough. I remember showing Star Wars to
Speaker 1: my kids when they were about five, or one of
Speaker 1: them was, and I was like, wow, this has got
Speaker 1: loads of guns and explosions in it. I have regrets,
Speaker 1: but forget all that, because I don't think that's the
Speaker 1: first film. I sort of the cinema. It was just
Speaker 1: like a really early experience, like I really remember. You know,
Speaker 1: obviously I'm the generation I'm sure everyone else is, but
Speaker 1: a similar shocks thing. I remember being at the cinema
Speaker 1: and we were queuing, you know, like you used to.
Speaker 1: I don't need to get this anymore. We were queuing
Speaker 1: by a little gold sign in the corridor with like
Speaker 1: red carpets. It might as well have been the thirties,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't. It was about nineteen eighty and we
Speaker 1: were waiting to get in. We're all very excited to
Speaker 1: go and see the big new film, and the audience
Speaker 1: before came out and like I was trying not to listen.
Speaker 1: I don't want to be plot spoilers. And there was
Speaker 1: loads of little boys in my age coming in the
Speaker 1: opposite direction, and they're all going it's face the faces
Speaker 1: a mounting is mounting, were mounting, and they were really
Speaker 1: excited about it, loved it. But I would also say,
Speaker 1: with a sprinkle of traumatized it had been a bit
Speaker 1: much for them. What film was I waiting to get into?
Speaker 1: Last Art? I remember that very clearly, and I was
Speaker 1: a bit scared, frankly, And it is quite a lot,
Speaker 1: isn't it? That Last Tear? But no, sorry, none of
Speaker 1: that before either of those films, victorily before Raiders, because
Speaker 1: please answer the question. I answer the question. Simbad and
Speaker 1: the Eye of the Tiger, that's the first one I
Speaker 1: remember seeing the cinema and I loved it. Wow, that
Speaker 1: is cool, because people don't. You don't talk about those
Speaker 1: films because they they're so rubbish now, but they were
Speaker 1: great at the time. They're kind of good, and it
Speaker 1: was It wasn't the same era, wasn't it, because there
Speaker 1: were the real high watermark for those kind of films.
Speaker 1: It's like Jason and the Argonauts. Yeah, and that was
Speaker 1: great as well, but that would see that on the telly.
Speaker 1: But they were still making them the kind of Harry
Speaker 1: House and yes, stop motion stuff, Greek myths. Simbadd and
Speaker 1: the either of Tiger, I remember being really exciting. And
Speaker 1: then another one that Class of Titans with Harry Hamlin
Speaker 1: and the little Robot owl Burgess Meredith Spurgess. Meredith loved
Speaker 1: those and Simbad and we went to see Spider Man
Speaker 1: and we couldn't get in. So we went to see
Speaker 1: Simbad and the either of Tiger, and I was really disappointed.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if you remember version of Spider
Speaker 1: Man that is, but it's not in the cannon put
Speaker 1: it that way? Is the one with the sort of
Speaker 1: TV movie version? Yeah? Yeah, they released quite loose fitting,
Speaker 1: quite a loose fitting suit, yeah, and teeth scrailers for eyes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's sort of like pajamas and he keeps having to
Speaker 1: pull him up. That's right with Toby maguire. No, so, yeah,
Speaker 1: we couldn't get into that. Muency Simban, the Eid of Tiger.
Speaker 1: Who'd you go with? I've got You've got a brother,
Speaker 1: my big brother. He's a few years older than me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he would have been there then because I was really little,
Speaker 1: but he's like six years older, so when I was
Speaker 1: a bit older, he wouldn't necessarily be there to be
Speaker 1: off teenager. He had been there there's about four and ten. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, okay, lovely. What is the film that scared
Speaker 1: you the most? Do you like being scared? I don't really.
Speaker 1: I've avoided that line of country. I mean, I've experienced it,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. My particular take on a
Speaker 1: scary film is if it's iconic, you know, if it's
Speaker 1: in the cannon, a film we ought to have seen
Speaker 1: and I want to see it so that I've seen it,
Speaker 1: but I would seek it out for the thrill. So
Speaker 1: I've seen the Blair Witch Project, but I didn't enjoy it.
Speaker 1: I mean I did enjoy it. It It wasn't it was
Speaker 1: kind of before everyone's like yeah, yeah, yeah. But anyway,
Speaker 1: so I think probably it's a difficult one. One of
Speaker 1: the scariest films I've ever seen was the original I
Speaker 1: don't know if this counts TV movie version of The
Speaker 1: Woman in Black. All right, We're dandy naman, Yeah, And
Speaker 1: it was it was not They lost it for ages,
Speaker 1: didn't they. No one happened right recently, and it's difficult
Speaker 1: to travel is it's slightly harder to see exactly how
Speaker 1: scary is if you see The Woman in Black as
Speaker 1: as miss Lemon from Poiro on ITV that undermines it.
Speaker 1: But honestly, that that that really shook me out. But
Speaker 1: I watched that on TV, so I don't need accounts.
Speaker 1: Oh again, Generationally, I am that generation who couldn't go
Speaker 1: anywhere near any water, including the upstairs toilet after Jaws
Speaker 1: was on TV. I think it's one particular Saturday night
Speaker 1: in about eighty one. But the scariest film actually got
Speaker 1: to I want myself in the cinema to answer this probably,
Speaker 1: so we jumped forward a few years. I did a
Speaker 1: gig at Nutting in Junglers and it was a horrible
Speaker 1: audience and bad sound and I'm not going to lie
Speaker 1: to your breath, it didn't go well for me. There
Speaker 1: was there was booing and through things, and I mean
Speaker 1: it was like that. It was like a fictional comedy death.
Speaker 1: And then I drank a lot of gin and then
Speaker 1: I went to a pub and I drank a lot
Speaker 1: more gin. And then I went and saw The Orphanage.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah, that's a fucking great film. It's
Speaker 1: absolutely fantastic. And the thing is it's the emotion of it.
Speaker 1: It was terrifying. I mean, particularly for me, I don't
Speaker 1: really watch Gary films as it's been established, and it's
Speaker 1: so scary, but it's also so sad, so sad. Oh god,
Speaker 1: it just I mean, it just broke me. I couldn't
Speaker 1: think about it, couldn't think about the end of it
Speaker 1: for months, for months and then but from here it
Speaker 1: was like the timing of it was amazing. It was
Speaker 1: like the worst night of my life. But I drew
Speaker 1: the steam of the whole thing with this incredible film.
Speaker 1: I'm really great but awful. Just what's not in your junglist?
Speaker 1: What is the film that made you cry the most?
Speaker 1: Are you a crier? I imagine you're a crier. I'm
Speaker 1: a massive crier. The the speech Jude Law gives in
Speaker 1: The Holiday, I'm a weeper, a weeper, a greatest cards. Um,
Speaker 1: that's me. That's based on me. He was quoting me directly. Um.
Speaker 1: But no. The funny thing is, though, and then it's
Speaker 1: obviously he connected is I wasn't. I thought I was.
Speaker 1: It's all to do with an emotional repression. Originally, I
Speaker 1: remember going to here we are. I would like to apologize, Hey,
Speaker 1: you didn't cut me wherever you like, But I'm going
Speaker 1: to continually tell you about films that aren't the answer
Speaker 1: to your question, because I yeah, particularly as I'm in
Speaker 1: a generation where we're going through a barrier that is
Speaker 1: all the films ever, you know, sort of Steen seventy
Speaker 1: seven to eighty four lived it me. But yeah, so
Speaker 1: me and Richard Osborne and Richard Osborne's mum went to
Speaker 1: see ET and he was on my left and she
Speaker 1: was on my right. And for the last half hour
Speaker 1: of the film, I was passing tissues and I couldn't
Speaker 1: cry it. I mean I watched ET and didn't I
Speaker 1: not only did I not psychopath, I know, I didn't
Speaker 1: understand why you would, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 1: I've seen it in recent years, and yeah, I've been
Speaker 1: as messed up. I mean, I'm a terrible crier. When
Speaker 1: me and my wife came out of Titanic, we started
Speaker 1: the car and then stopped it again and just sat crying,
Speaker 1: like for ages. I can't drive. Well, this is happening.
Speaker 1: And I went to see, uh, what's it called an
Speaker 1: English patient with my friend of mine in Finland, and
Speaker 1: which she was just chatting away about doing the post
Speaker 1: film debrief, and I just said, I want you to
Speaker 1: stop talking about anyway, the thing that where it broke
Speaker 1: was it was One over the Cook's Nest. I saw
Speaker 1: it on TV when I was I don't know when
Speaker 1: it was, but it wouldn't have been that long after
Speaker 1: I'd seen et in psychopath Style, and I remember watching
Speaker 1: one for them. Yeah, like there's no soul, not even
Speaker 1: understanding what what is got what they wanted it was?
Speaker 1: It was, you know, logistically the scheme is complete. Um
Speaker 1: was it your beath? So you know? And they had
Speaker 1: a lovely bike, cried for goodness sake. And the funny
Speaker 1: thing is I remember that I remember just when the
Speaker 1: floodgates went, I didn't know what to do. I mean,
Speaker 1: I hurt in my soul and I went and had
Speaker 1: a bath and was all upset. And my mum, it
Speaker 1: probably thought, was traumatized him. We don't know what to do,
Speaker 1: she said, one the other bath, And I went and
Speaker 1: had a bath, and I was just lying in the
Speaker 1: bath and saying but even then, I remember really insisting
Speaker 1: that the end of One Flew Over the Cookstness was
Speaker 1: a happy ending. But I don't understand this. It was
Speaker 1: a happy ending. It was just like after a fashion rock.
Speaker 1: But come on, so yes, I really had to learn,
Speaker 1: and since then I've been terrible. Another way, I was
Speaker 1: at university and we watched Awakenings and I was trying
Speaker 1: to be all not crying in front of my new flatmates.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but I held on. I was like, we're fine.
Speaker 1: And I went to go to my room and my
Speaker 1: room was locked and left the keys in the kitchen
Speaker 1: and I just got to my room door and I
Speaker 1: was trying to open my own room at university and
Speaker 1: just in the corridor and the organ crying about Awakenings
Speaker 1: in the corridor. So I've caught up since. But yeah,
Speaker 1: the Floodgates was one play of the cooksiness such a
Speaker 1: great psychopath test. Handstand it because it's a happy ending
Speaker 1: any t. I mean you know here, you're insane. Not
Speaker 1: a remotely happy film. And honestly, and I cry at
Speaker 1: anything I got, I'll cry. I'm more likely than not
Speaker 1: to cry any given episode of The Simpsons. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: sets me off. Yeah, any Simpsons so that it's about
Speaker 1: Homer and Lisa around mcgin. Oh. So I'm just thinking
Speaker 1: of the bit where Maggie thinks that the ice cream
Speaker 1: is Marge's hair. Oh, what is the film that you love?
Speaker 1: But it's not critically acclaimed. Most people don't like it,
Speaker 1: but you don't care what they say, because you yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: well I love I really enjoy a film that's and
Speaker 1: I think lots of people probably agree with this. I
Speaker 1: think I've only ever enjoyed Hudson Hawk. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. Hey mister, are you gonna die?
Speaker 1: But if I'm honest, this one's more culturally complicated, and
Speaker 1: I have a real proper relationship with it. In summer
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty three, during our two weeks summer holiday in
Speaker 1: the rainy British countryside, we have the proper rainy day
Speaker 1: and went to the cinema and I always dreamed of
Speaker 1: that day because then we'd go to the you know,
Speaker 1: and see and it would often be a James Bond
Speaker 1: movie and uh. And in summer eighty three, I thought
Speaker 1: saw one of the what at the time was the
Speaker 1: best film I'd ever seen, and I would still watch
Speaker 1: it any day. And that's Octopusy Yeah. And I have
Speaker 1: to say, obviously it's fairly socially indefensible, but I'm I'm
Speaker 1: pretty right on, and I think that it is much
Speaker 1: more crash and properly offensive ill judged. I mean, but
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. I'm not going to stand up
Speaker 1: and caught and defend it against charges of sexism and
Speaker 1: racism and stuff. But I still find it. And also
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I wouldn't say, oh, I love a
Speaker 1: Roger Moore James Bond film, because a lot of them
Speaker 1: are howling dogs. But I've got a real soft spot
Speaker 1: for Octopusy and it's exciting. The soundtrack is great, and
Speaker 1: the action sequence is a superb He has that long
Speaker 1: chase where he has to get all the way across
Speaker 1: Germany and he's got like four hours. I love that.
Speaker 1: Then you don't see that, you know, when someone's got
Speaker 1: loads of time and they can make phone calls and
Speaker 1: do hitchhiking and stuff, and yet in the end he
Speaker 1: ends up with just thirty seconds to diffuse the bomb.
Speaker 1: It's great, great film. Love it. I'm shown that I
Speaker 1: said it indefensible. I stand. I'm watching this to know,
Speaker 1: is I take it to my grade? What is quite literally? Apparently? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Maybe what is the film that you used to love
Speaker 1: but you've watched it recently and you do not like
Speaker 1: it anymore? For whatever reason that might be. Do you
Speaker 1: know It's funny. This one the ones that really jump out.
Speaker 1: I remember really enjoying at the time, and I feel
Speaker 1: bad about this, but I just want to speak. I know,
Speaker 1: like you know, this is an issue, isn't it? Where
Speaker 1: you where when you realize the stories of the films
Speaker 1: and what they mean and people make films, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Don't want to hold anything against anyone.
Speaker 1: But having said that, I think there's a national treasure,
Speaker 1: a legend, a very talented guys making brilliant films whose
Speaker 1: early films are quite hard to watch now, and I
Speaker 1: remember enjoying them a lot, and that's uh. I feel
Speaker 1: bad now. In case is your best mate Peter's Friends?
Speaker 1: And what's the one Dead Again? Have you seen Dead Again?
Speaker 1: Dead Again is amazing? And the funny thing is that
Speaker 1: it is a difference in perspective because at the time,
Speaker 1: maybe it was just my immaturity, but I just thought
Speaker 1: this is great. Yeah, this plays like a head shop
Speaker 1: like i'd seen Vertigo, And then I watched Dead Again.
Speaker 1: I thought, yeah, that was good. It doesn't feel like
Speaker 1: that when you watch it now, how does it feel?
Speaker 1: I've not watched it? Used to? I used to fucking
Speaker 1: love Dead again. Yeah, well it is close key and
Speaker 1: after a while you just don't buy into it. You
Speaker 1: think this, these British guys are just doing American accents,
Speaker 1: and it's there's there's like a cartoon. They're just kind
Speaker 1: of and in a way, Peter's Friends is like that too.
Speaker 1: You see the big chill and then you see Peter's
Speaker 1: Friends and I don't know, they just don't feel I
Speaker 1: can't buy into them anymore. They feel like drama exercises,
Speaker 1: you know. Thank you for checking. If Kenneth ber is
Speaker 1: my best friend, well, I shook his hand once. I think,
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously he's great, and he's and he also
Speaker 1: he's all over. I love his work. I love his Shakespeare.
Speaker 1: Shakespeare films from the time day amazingly. I think much
Speaker 1: to do about Nothing is underrated from here. I think
Speaker 1: it's fantastic. And a Hamlet, that whole Hamlet is really good.
Speaker 1: But having said that, my Miss Marple, I went from
Speaker 1: Miss Marple over Pyro anyway. Yeah, so that would definitely
Speaker 1: be it, although I feel bad about it. I think
Speaker 1: there's a couple of films that I really loved that
Speaker 1: are probably appalling, but I'll avoid them. Those kind of
Speaker 1: eighties musicals, and they'd be really rubbish and probably like
Speaker 1: all kinds of offensive as well, films like Electric Dreams, okay,
Speaker 1: and what's the other Zanna Do? I thought Zannadue was great? Right,
Speaker 1: I have seen Janna Do. It's doesn't even hang together.
Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense, and I thought it was.
Speaker 1: It's amazing how open minded we were. The stuff would
Speaker 1: just go, Okay, yeah that's a film. Yeah, I'm entertained,
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on and incomprehensible rubbish. So yeah,
Speaker 1: Zanna Do an Electric In fact, I'm sorry, Sir Kenneth
Speaker 1: all wrong. Zakay is in US nominated this year, of course,
Speaker 1: full respect. Zanna Do Electric Dreams. I haven't seen the
Speaker 1: Electric Gyms again, so we go Xanadu. That is a
Speaker 1: film which I have to admit that I loved. I
Speaker 1: don't know why, probably pre et full Psychopath and I've
Speaker 1: seen it since and it's one of the worst things
Speaker 1: that's ever been through in my eyes, really good at
Speaker 1: I'd like the journey to get there. I'm just I
Speaker 1: don't think I'm ever going to work with Seken now.
Speaker 1: I think it will forgive you because it seems like
Speaker 1: a very magnanimous man. Is the film that means the
Speaker 1: most to you? Not necessarily the film itself is any good,
Speaker 1: but because the experience you had around seeing it, that
Speaker 1: will always make it special to you. Mister Rob Deering, Well,
Speaker 1: I'm slightly embarrassed about this film because the answer ultimately
Speaker 1: comes to me really obviously, and it's definitely a film.
Speaker 1: But I'm a bit embarrassed because it's so kind of
Speaker 1: on the nose. But I think that when it comes
Speaker 1: down to it, these are the films I love, you know.
Speaker 1: I love films, entertaining films that work is where I live,
Speaker 1: you know. So I've got to learn to lose my
Speaker 1: shame of Hollywood doing what it does best. Anyway, Fairest
Speaker 1: Viewer changed my life, just changed my life. I was
Speaker 1: on i'd seen a poster for it at the cinema.
Speaker 1: I'd have been what we're talking in eighty seven, so
Speaker 1: I'm fourteen fifteen, and I saw the poster, you know,
Speaker 1: the kind of screenprint poster of the cargoing the opposite
Speaker 1: direction in the traffic right, and it's called Fairest Viewer's
Speaker 1: Day Off. And I immediately thought, oh, that sounds great.
Speaker 1: I love the sound of this film. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: so lazy, and I was sad, and I mean when
Speaker 1: you think back to that, I mean, why did I
Speaker 1: lie on that thinking that that's good? But it was
Speaker 1: something different, wasn't it? And then I went on a
Speaker 1: school trip to America. I mean, you don't get those anybody.
Speaker 1: Isn't that fantastic? We went it was an arts exchange,
Speaker 1: so it was absolutely you know, there was a proper
Speaker 1: non dead poets. I was going to say, like Dead
Speaker 1: Posts Society, only not sad. But let's say, well, what
Speaker 1: was sad about Dead Posts Society? Really? I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: the children get educated. No, I was emotionally awake by
Speaker 1: the time I saw that film. So I was on
Speaker 1: this arts exchange to America, so I was I was
Speaker 1: doing all real you know, actual. I was in a
Speaker 1: play we loved doing. We went to see we went
Speaker 1: to all kinds of music things. But also I was
Speaker 1: hanging around with these cool Americans and properly, yeah, I said,
Speaker 1: that's when I kind of decided to start wearing black
Speaker 1: clothes and listening to the Cure all day long and
Speaker 1: everybody and it was just I was really it was
Speaker 1: a real teenage moment where I was finding out who
Speaker 1: I was and that was already happening. What was the
Speaker 1: play you were in? What love we wore? Right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And it was good. You know, it's a good play, right,
Speaker 1: And it's basically a very workshop script, so if you
Speaker 1: do it right, you're doing it like they did in
Speaker 1: theater Astra at least. And we did it in this
Speaker 1: big theater in Marblehead, north of Boston, and everyoneent a
Speaker 1: good job and I didn't know what that phrase meant.
Speaker 1: I was like, what does that mean? Good job? And
Speaker 1: then and I spent all my money on a Mickey
Speaker 1: Mouse baseball jacket and literally decided the next day to
Speaker 1: wear black for the rest of my life. So you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's a moment in time. Anyway, my friends exchange,
Speaker 1: not mine. Mine was a crazy man. I said, what's
Speaker 1: my exchange like? And they said, hmm, he spent a
Speaker 1: year thinking he was a bird. But my friend was
Speaker 1: at the road staying with this girl who was lovely,
Speaker 1: and we went to his exchange house and watched a
Speaker 1: video and it was and again shows the timing because
Speaker 1: it was veryous. Few as Day Off released on VHS
Speaker 1: before it had even been on the cinema in the UK,
Speaker 1: And yeah, so just watched it on VHS in this
Speaker 1: living room. But in America, in America and the very
Speaker 1: few asself, and honestly, life moves pretty fast. If you
Speaker 1: don't stop and look around once in a while, you
Speaker 1: could miss it. Honestly, you know, wwf D written on
Speaker 1: my underpants And I know that from here. I was
Speaker 1: just the other day someone was saying, Oh, it's such
Speaker 1: an arrogant, little privileged scroat, you know. But I think
Speaker 1: I think John Hughes knew that, you know, for when
Speaker 1: for a few of the complains about not having a car,
Speaker 1: you're not supposed to sympathize with him, you know, spoiled
Speaker 1: when he says that, you know. But anyway, it changed
Speaker 1: my life. It was it was a It was a
Speaker 1: it was a compass reading for what to do with
Speaker 1: yourself at an incredibly vulnerable moment when I was actually
Speaker 1: in America thinking who could I be? What could I do?
Speaker 1: As a teenager? And Ferrest came along in what to
Speaker 1: me looked like a really cool cardigan, amazing decisions that
Speaker 1: I really respected. Yeah, and now it's only now that
Speaker 1: I like watching back to the future and stuff. It's
Speaker 1: just amazing how these apparently rebellious teams still basically get
Speaker 1: married at the end and then get a girlfriend at
Speaker 1: the end. They get married at the end, Martin wick
Speaker 1: Fly and Fairest Buelah and these women who were just
Speaker 1: a function of them decide to get married. It was
Speaker 1: the fifties, not the eighties, it turns out. But anyway, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's very much a cultural you know, I'm obsessed. I'm
Speaker 1: not obsessed. I got into yeah, all right, I'm obsessed.
Speaker 1: Called The Bachelor in America, I don't know if you've
Speaker 1: heard of it, but it's such a fascinating sort cultural
Speaker 1: thing because it's a show in which the Bachelor, a
Speaker 1: man is encouraged to date and I think sleep with
Speaker 1: twenty five women over the course of a few months,
Speaker 1: but at the end of it he has to marry
Speaker 1: one of them. It ends in marriage. So there's this weird,
Speaker 1: sort of puritanical, weirdly like, go and have some fun,
Speaker 1: but at the end of this you're getting married. Sad. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I mean, how old are these bachelors in their twenties.
Speaker 1: It's too old, you know, I'm a saying, like, at
Speaker 1: the end, just go like, do you want to go
Speaker 1: on another date? You'd have to marry him now exactly.
Speaker 1: I mean, I loved my wife and we got together
Speaker 1: and we liked each other immediately. You know, it's been
Speaker 1: a lovely textbook relationship. Lucky me. I don't know, you know,
Speaker 1: I really lucked out. But still when we first met,
Speaker 1: we kind of got together, and then we didn't see
Speaker 1: each other for two months and it was a shame.
Speaker 1: We really missed each other, exchanged postcards and stuff. It
Speaker 1: was still very healthy. And then, you know, and then
Speaker 1: then we got out, you know, and then we didn't
Speaker 1: get married when I got back. You know, it's just
Speaker 1: life takes longer than that. You know, life, I suppose
Speaker 1: life moves pretty fast. And by the way it workspace ways.
Speaker 1: Just so you know, it's the Bachelorette. Happens after the
Speaker 1: bachelor of the bachelorette dates twenty five men and then
Speaker 1: in the end she has to marry. Well, the thing
Speaker 1: is that it basically works on the assumption that well,
Speaker 1: first of all, that you know everyone's straight, and secondly
Speaker 1: that you are everyone from the opposite gender is just
Speaker 1: is just a possibility. But to be a life mate
Speaker 1: and that's just no way to approach other humans, is it.
Speaker 1: It's just no way to go into it. No shame,
Speaker 1: but it is. You know, I think that Back to
Speaker 1: the Future is like, you know, it's near perfect, isn't it.
Speaker 1: It's such a great film. So I didn't realize until
Speaker 1: recent years that they were just as would have been,
Speaker 1: just as worried about it, feeling queasy if they did
Speaker 1: it wrong. I just thought they were blase about it.
Speaker 1: But they it's so well judge him with the thing
Speaker 1: with his mom and everything. It could be awful. That
Speaker 1: was a bad film. You go, oh, this is this
Speaker 1: is awful, And as it is, it just works, and
Speaker 1: Michael J. Fox is perfect and the whole You know,
Speaker 1: they worked really hard to make a perfect film. The
Speaker 1: fact that there's Steven Spielberg thing where he said, start
Speaker 1: really slow for ages to make it exciting, is that true.
Speaker 1: I've heard that. They say, yeah, it was. It was
Speaker 1: Steven Spielberg's advice. The reason you spend ages looking at
Speaker 1: Doc Brown's alarm clock and he has an audition for
Speaker 1: the band thing is so that the rest of the
Speaker 1: film seems so exciting because you just really take your
Speaker 1: time for the first fifteen minutes and that was a
Speaker 1: Steven Spielberg to anyway, so I hear. But the thing
Speaker 1: that is that he basically has this girl he says,
Speaker 1: I love you, then she isn't in the film, and
Speaker 1: then at the end they get together, and particularly with
Speaker 1: the sequels and everything, that's it they start the clan
Speaker 1: of people who look exactly like him. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: all you know, it's more Deliverance than Back to the
Speaker 1: Future in, isn't it? What is the film you most relate? Obviously,
Speaker 1: Ferrisbula still know that's James a lot, but it was
Speaker 1: a moment in time. I have to say, I'm kind
Speaker 1: of reverse engineering this because I'm not sure I particularly
Speaker 1: watch films in that way, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit a shamed because I still really
Speaker 1: love the kind of James Bond model guy with I
Speaker 1: suppose really notes modulated. I like the I like the
Speaker 1: Matt Damon model, you know, the guy who is it
Speaker 1: was just whatever he does, he's an absolute expert at it,
Speaker 1: but he's very diffident about that. And then he's a
Speaker 1: hero survives, you know, whether it's being on Mars or
Speaker 1: playing poker or being an international assassin, but with guilt.
Speaker 1: You know this is so, But you can't identify with
Speaker 1: those guys because there at best it's it's male fantasy
Speaker 1: and at worst you're you know, I'm a psychopath again.
Speaker 1: So but that's what I love. I love a Jason Bourne.
Speaker 1: I love and Ethan Hunt, you know. And I suppose
Speaker 1: where I relate to them and where they've actually influenced
Speaker 1: my life is the running. Talking about running, you know,
Speaker 1: when I go for a run, I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: be mo Farah. You know. I don't read the magazines.
Speaker 1: I don't know what people who run are doing, and
Speaker 1: I don't want to see myself running because I run
Speaker 1: like a big rolling I run like a fat bloke
Speaker 1: and always will. But I am Jason Bourne on the
Speaker 1: beach in Goer. That's who's running when I go for
Speaker 1: a run. And that thing that people always take the
Speaker 1: mickey out that Tom Cruise runs in all his films, yea,
Speaker 1: oh god, I love those scenes missing usle three just
Speaker 1: turn left and run three quarters a mile down there,
Speaker 1: Oh my god. And then they just do it again
Speaker 1: on top of Black Frize Bridge and missing Pustble fall out. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I'm literally trying to find a ladder on Blackfries Station
Speaker 1: so that I can get a faster run across the
Speaker 1: top of black Frize Bridge because I love that that thing.
Speaker 1: So yeah, films where Tom Cruise runs, I love it.
Speaker 1: I love it. What was it? Excellent answer, Rob Deering,
Speaker 1: Let Me in the Eye was the sexiest film you've
Speaker 1: ever seen? Look away? Sexiest? Well, I gotta tell you
Speaker 1: in a minute. That's a sexy stort of a scene. Though. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: full disclosure. You know again, I'm talking about things being
Speaker 1: crashed and quite on the nose. I just didn't know.
Speaker 1: I didn't know what I was getting into when I
Speaker 1: sat down to watch Bound, and that was that's right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I obviously it seems you know, it's just
Speaker 1: basically in any other circumstance, it's just me saying, hey,
Speaker 1: so I was watching some pretty on the nose, not Born.
Speaker 1: But the thing is, I was expecting a good, tight,
Speaker 1: little thriller. Yeah, and so when is it, Jennifer Tillian
Speaker 1: Gina Gershon It is when they got together, which is
Speaker 1: a sexy scene. Yes. Oh, I didn't know what's going
Speaker 1: to do with myself, So yeah, probably that great answer.
Speaker 1: What there's it's not a great answer is that. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't come off I listen. All I care about
Speaker 1: is people being honest in this question. It really his best.
Speaker 1: It really annoys me when people go like, oh, the
Speaker 1: romance of a screwbald comedy. I'm like, shut up, liar,
Speaker 1: what's There's a subcategory traveling bone is worrying? Why dones
Speaker 1: a film you found arousing that you weren't sure that
Speaker 1: you should? Well, yeah, this is this is this is
Speaker 1: really interesting in terms of what you just said, because
Speaker 1: sometimes you think, oh, I really shouldn't fancy that person
Speaker 1: or find this thing sexy, but I do. But I
Speaker 1: think in the history of cinema again, you realize looking
Speaker 1: back that people meant that you know. Yeah, So for example,
Speaker 1: I really fancy what's her name, Joan Greenwood in the
Speaker 1: Eating comedies. That's Joan Greenwood, isn't it, with the with
Speaker 1: the posh sexy voice, Joan Greenwood? Yeah, possible to say
Speaker 1: greens such a sexy Joan Greenwood. But the thing is,
Speaker 1: at first I was like, oh, you're not supposed to
Speaker 1: fancy her, she's all parsh and in the old days
Speaker 1: or whatever. But like you know, those seeing guys knew
Speaker 1: what they were doing. They were trying to work around
Speaker 1: the hayscoat and sell those films in America. She's supposed
Speaker 1: to be sexy, so there's no shame in that that.
Speaker 1: I had an experience I want to tell you about
Speaker 1: where I felt guilty, but again, the film was sexy,
Speaker 1: so it doesn't really count. But you remember Sliver with
Speaker 1: Sharon Stone, huge fan fan, Yeah, it's all and it's
Speaker 1: all you know, hidden cameras and people, you know, masturbating
Speaker 1: in hotel rooms and you know it's it's grubby, isn't
Speaker 1: it scrubby? And great film? Well I saw that on
Speaker 1: a boat. I used to tour around a lot, going
Speaker 1: off to Europe on ferries, and on the longer trips
Speaker 1: she'd be able to go to the cinema. And I thought,
Speaker 1: this is brilliant, you know, and I'd watch I saw
Speaker 1: a Spice World on a boat. Goodness say it was
Speaker 1: my life. But anyway, I want to sit and sometimes
Speaker 1: the cinema on a boat would be a little cinema
Speaker 1: and sometimes it would be a more multi purpose room
Speaker 1: where a screen dropped down. Anyway, I went to see
Speaker 1: Sliver in what was this this voice rism thriller in
Speaker 1: what was essentially like a conference room, and there was
Speaker 1: just and there was no one there. I just I
Speaker 1: found it. I had a ticket, but no one showed
Speaker 1: me in or anything. I just saw W four or whatever,
Speaker 1: went through this boat door, sat a comfy chair next
Speaker 1: to a table. I was smoked. Then there's an astro
Speaker 1: and lit a cigarette, and then they started this film
Speaker 1: about watching people and there's no other people around, and
Speaker 1: I just there's nothing to do with the embarrassment of
Speaker 1: the film. You're supposed to find that film. But I
Speaker 1: felt like a ridiculous character. I felt like I was
Speaker 1: now I felt like a watcher. I was mister grubby producer,
Speaker 1: you know. I felt like I was going to scratch line.
Speaker 1: Yeah sure, And again why they'd seen back And it
Speaker 1: was such a weird experience, But it was like it
Speaker 1: was like what it was like. It was like secret cinema.
Speaker 1: It was like my own little secret cinema loyalistic experience.
Speaker 1: But neither of those answer your question. And I'm going
Speaker 1: to get up to cut to the chase. Now. You
Speaker 1: know we were talking about seem Bad and the Eye
Speaker 1: of the Tiger. Do you remember it seen it. Is
Speaker 1: it the one with Medica. No, that's clashing the Titans.
Speaker 1: That's good stuff. No in Simbady either. Tiger the Baddie
Speaker 1: is a witch. I think she's quite gorgeous and sexy.
Speaker 1: I don't remember, and she embarrassed. I'm going to finish
Speaker 1: the story now and you can have it. She u.
Speaker 1: I think towards the end of the film, she disguises
Speaker 1: herself as a seagull with a potion and she's got
Speaker 1: the potion that can that can change her back, and
Speaker 1: she just makes it back and has the potion, but
Speaker 1: there isn't really enough and she's left with one seagull leg.
Speaker 1: I thought that was pretty sexy at the time. Whoever,
Speaker 1: what was going on when I was little unbelievable frightening child.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe someone's going to sit down, I
Speaker 1: mean some an imagine new person is going to sit
Speaker 1: down and watch him the Tiger and see that last
Speaker 1: scene of this witch going oh no, my one seagull
Speaker 1: leg and go oh yeah, no, I get it. Yeah
Speaker 1: it sound sexy when you describe it. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: who you know, one seagull leg with very poor special effect.
Speaker 1: She's also she really cannot resist chips after that, particularly
Speaker 1: eating outside. Also the one seagull leg, So does that
Speaker 1: mean she's very Is it a very long leg? Oh no,
Speaker 1: it's human science. It's a human size, I mean. And
Speaker 1: also in terms of special effects, I think it covers
Speaker 1: up her actual legs. It's more like an elephant's foot. Yeah.
Speaker 1: What subjectively the greatest film of all time? Yeah? Okay,
Speaker 1: so just on the list, not from me. I have
Speaker 1: to say, I really don't think you can say this, Kenny.
Speaker 1: I mean, you could pick a film for all time,
Speaker 1: but only subjectively because you've got to be in the
Speaker 1: mood for it, you know what I mean. You could say, Okay,
Speaker 1: it's The Searchers, and then you know, you could argue
Speaker 1: that point or Citizen Kane. But I think in real terms,
Speaker 1: in real life, if a film hits all the dots,
Speaker 1: if a film is within its own compass, perfect like
Speaker 1: a juel, you know, and then you see a film
Speaker 1: and you think that's really good, and then it starts
Speaker 1: to become multi dimensional, like so you see that. I
Speaker 1: don't know. The script supports the story, the casting, the
Speaker 1: music is perfect. The storytelling is helped by the music
Speaker 1: and the casting. The storytelling builds up to the surprises,
Speaker 1: and every every time you look at it, every time
Speaker 1: you watch it again, you find a new detail which
Speaker 1: supports your very first idea of how good it is.
Speaker 1: That's one hundred percent, isn't it. That's five stars. Those
Speaker 1: are the best films, and there's loads of them, you know,
Speaker 1: I think that. I don't know. I think Frozen is
Speaker 1: a perfect film that really, you know, and a school
Speaker 1: of rock. School of Rock is the matrix they all
Speaker 1: in terms of succeeding in what they set out to do.
Speaker 1: Good were hunting. They just bang right on the money.
Speaker 1: So I think, you know, my true answer would be
Speaker 1: those loads. But I think really maybe, And that's also
Speaker 1: to do with what we're saying about popular films. You know,
Speaker 1: it's very easy to say I love this piece of art.
Speaker 1: You know, a couple of years after first views day off,
Speaker 1: if you'd ask me this, I'd just said, winds of Desire,
Speaker 1: No two ways about it, that's be fantastic, Windo Desire.
Speaker 1: I stand by it. It's a great film. I loved it,
Speaker 1: but it is just a specific film for a moment
Speaker 1: in time, and it's not better because it's the arthouse
Speaker 1: or black and white, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: I think when films really say something and are really entertaining,
Speaker 1: and specifically you could walk in and say, well, that
Speaker 1: was a really cracking yarn or that really changed how
Speaker 1: I feel about the whole subject, you know, like a
Speaker 1: good poem, and those are probably the best, like get
Speaker 1: Out or Bloody Parasite. You either works as a kind
Speaker 1: of treatise on modern society or just a cracking story.
Speaker 1: And I watched one the other day, which I think
Speaker 1: I did see once years ago, but I saw it
Speaker 1: again and it fits that description of being perfect and
Speaker 1: small and everything supports everything, and it's an entertainment, but
Speaker 1: it's also truly a piece of art that sort of
Speaker 1: has echoes throughout the conversation. Let's go with the conversation.
Speaker 1: Great great film, great answer. I mean, when you think
Speaker 1: about everything, how everything supports everything. The music that David
Speaker 1: Shiner is so odd and intellectual, and yet it's also
Speaker 1: a great thing too. It's just it's melodic. You can
Speaker 1: hook into it. It's a fantastic film. It's a really
Speaker 1: good that film. Good answer. What is the film that
Speaker 1: you could or have? What's the most over and over again? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's funny, isn't it. I think it's really
Speaker 1: important your past tense have watched over and over again.
Speaker 1: It really counts, doesn't it, Because you don't plan it,
Speaker 1: you know, like I would think it would be. I'm
Speaker 1: sure this is everyone's It's an obvious one and I
Speaker 1: love it. It's midnight Run, but I don't actually watch
Speaker 1: Midnight Run that often. I think it's too important to me.
Speaker 1: Whereas a film like The Fugitive, if it's on Telly,
Speaker 1: I'll watch it, watch it to the end. So I
Speaker 1: think the one that kind of sums it, I'd just
Speaker 1: like men running, you know, let's see it. But Harrison
Speaker 1: falls a flappy Runny's a bad runner, remember Joe Heenan
Speaker 1: pointing out that's why Joe Heena loves a clumsy hero.
Speaker 1: So it's Indiana Jones in that first scene is all dusty,
Speaker 1: so it's gonna fall over and Robert redferends clumsy, isn't
Speaker 1: it anyway? What did I say? I didn't say the
Speaker 1: one that I always watch, but I do really love.
Speaker 1: But it's a sort of classic, sort of generics in
Speaker 1: the line of five, what a great film. I can't
Speaker 1: I'm always going back to in the Line of five.
Speaker 1: I think it's just exactly that, isn't it. It's like
Speaker 1: a good old fashioned it's well, I think there's something.
Speaker 1: I think Clint Eastwood in it has got a elevates
Speaker 1: it with them. I mean, he's he's miscasting. Really, he's
Speaker 1: older than the characters should be. But it's so lovely
Speaker 1: to see Clint Eastwood gives such good vulnerable, doesn't he.
Speaker 1: He plays old really well. Really, there's no modesty to it.
Speaker 1: And the other thing he does in the Line of Fire,
Speaker 1: which is really weird, how much I love it. But
Speaker 1: it's one of the best colds and he gets a cold. Ah,
Speaker 1: he's got a cold on the plane and says, oh,
Speaker 1: it's astonishing. I love in the Line of Fight. It's
Speaker 1: definitely in the Line of Fire, great great, great, great film.
Speaker 1: Although I should say say, on, behalf of my children,
Speaker 1: and you know, like, ah, she's so much younger than him,
Speaker 1: come on, that is true. But if it's going to
Speaker 1: be anyone, that should be Reneusso she's perfect. She plays
Speaker 1: that role a lot, the kind of in within sexist Hollywood,
Speaker 1: giving the agency to the slightly older, you know, get
Speaker 1: shorty in the line of Fire, Thomas Crown Affair, you
Speaker 1: can't really Nathan. Weapon three is great. I always liked
Speaker 1: to important the first two. Yeah, we don't like to
Speaker 1: be negative. What's the worst film you ever saw? Well?
Speaker 1: I like to be negative. It's interesting, isn't it? Because
Speaker 1: I think when you get down there, I don't really
Speaker 1: like to be negative. I don't know why I said that.
Speaker 1: It's just being contrary, which is the same thing, isn't it? Cut?
Speaker 1: Please cut that, Please cut that bit from joke. I
Speaker 1: don't want them to see the real me. I've learned
Speaker 1: to cry. I won't kill again. I come back. I
Speaker 1: do miss you. I couldn't want it now. I'm like,
Speaker 1: wouldn't sit down to eteen now because it would ruin
Speaker 1: my day. One of these days I'll get back to it.
Speaker 1: It's too hard. In no way, I will never watch
Speaker 1: that film again. Do you find getting older that you
Speaker 1: avoid films that are going to make you cry? I've
Speaker 1: avoided et since I was six. Yeah, I'm no fault. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you're emotionally letter at the time that I'm talking
Speaker 1: about the scarringiness of melting faces and burnt certain things
Speaker 1: on fire, But what about the scariness of a Broken Heart.
Speaker 1: It's lucky, It's lucky my hard carapace of emotionlessness was
Speaker 1: in place. Now there's two, specifically, two different kinds of
Speaker 1: terrible films, aren't there. There's terrible films that are just
Speaker 1: completely flat. They just don't engage, don't care, you know,
Speaker 1: the scripts, rubbish, nothing rings true, They're just they're just flat.
Speaker 1: They're just inert And then there's terrible films where you
Speaker 1: don't know what's going on, what were they thinking, what's
Speaker 1: even happening now? And what's weird is that the second
Speaker 1: kind they're probably worse, but they're also much more entertaining,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because you know something like
Speaker 1: I don't know, Battlefield Earth. It's a sharking film, but
Speaker 1: it's eminently watchable. It's all over the place. Yeah, Whereas
Speaker 1: there's sort of various sort of like sequels and things
Speaker 1: that you just think. So I think one of the
Speaker 1: worst films I ever saw in the cinema was the
Speaker 1: was the was the Avengers, the British TV series Avengers. Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't know what was happening in that film. I mean,
Speaker 1: it just didn't Piny finds in with Therma Sean Connery
Speaker 1: and years it looked like it was going to be good.
Speaker 1: It was incomprehensible and loads of people not talking. People
Speaker 1: worry about a script. They just cut the script. It's
Speaker 1: like Moonmaker, just screeds and screens and screen time and
Speaker 1: nobody talking and not much happening at all. But anyway, no, No,
Speaker 1: the worst film and history of cinema is Michael Winner's
Speaker 1: Bulls Eye with Roger Moore and Michael Caine, which is
Speaker 1: fabulously entertaining, but my god, it's bad. And it's because
Speaker 1: it's bad anyway, because it's got this kind of gleeful
Speaker 1: They made it as their mates, and they're both playing
Speaker 1: duel roles, so you get Roger Moore and Michael Caine
Speaker 1: doing accents, Michael Caine in full bad Michael Caine rather
Speaker 1: than good Michael Caine road and Roger Moore. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's fun, but it's so bad, like technically bad. There's
Speaker 1: a bit where a guy goes and knocks on the
Speaker 1: door in the train and then the person who answers
Speaker 1: the door shoots him. I think it's a long time
Speaker 1: watched it again and somehow the special fit. I think
Speaker 1: they did it with a mannequin or something, but the
Speaker 1: guy kind of shatters, you know, it's like bits of
Speaker 1: non It's a similar effect, but without deliberately being a joke,
Speaker 1: as when the guy in Top Secret falls off the
Speaker 1: tower the GYMNASTI he goes, there's like Willham skin falls
Speaker 1: in the tower and then when he hits the ground
Speaker 1: at the bottom, he smashes like a vase. So Michael
Speaker 1: Winner does that, but without any comic intent. And my
Speaker 1: friend Ferg was watching this and I was sitting next
Speaker 1: to him, and he said to me, that's the worst
Speaker 1: thing I've ever seen. You know, I could stand by that.
Speaker 1: It was the worst thing I've ever seen. There's a
Speaker 1: bit at the end where they oh, and the other
Speaker 1: thing is that Michael Caine being an expert at darts
Speaker 1: is a key is a key thing in being able
Speaker 1: to throw darts. Oh god. And there's a bit at
Speaker 1: the end where they jump over a building on a motorbike,
Speaker 1: which is terrible anyway, But then I remember the scene.
Speaker 1: It's so obviously an assistant just pushing a motorbike front
Speaker 1: wheel into shot. You know what, I really Oh, it's
Speaker 1: brilliantly bad. I don't think you hear enough about how
Speaker 1: bad Fall's Eye is and it's watch all right, you've
Speaker 1: probably sold that what you're in comedy. You're a comedian.
Speaker 1: You're very funny. Thanks the film that made you laughter most.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I've just mentioned Top Secret. That's that's got
Speaker 1: a lot of good jokes and it's good. It's funny,
Speaker 1: isn't it? Because I think the ones who we laugh
Speaker 1: the most tend to be a little bit you get
Speaker 1: slightly less narrative, like they need to really commit to
Speaker 1: the comedy, you know, Like I know that on Sean
Speaker 1: of the Dead they really made a point of saying,
Speaker 1: let's not go that's. If it's a choice between the
Speaker 1: laugh line and keeping the emotional curve of the film,
Speaker 1: We're going to do the latter so that you get
Speaker 1: a film. And that's that's absolutely inspired. They're exactly right,
Speaker 1: won't they. And when you think about this, the ones
Speaker 1: that make you laugh the most the ones that don't
Speaker 1: matter and it's just funny, you know. I mean, honestly,
Speaker 1: when Joe Peshi sets his own head on fire at
Speaker 1: the end of Home Alone, I don't think in that
Speaker 1: specifically at that moment, I don't think I've ever laughed
Speaker 1: louder in the cinema when just they just hold on
Speaker 1: it for oh god, I laughed. So I think a
Speaker 1: film that made me laugh all the way through, even
Speaker 1: though it's decidedly patchy. But when it made me laugh laugh, laugh,
Speaker 1: I you know, was people around me were looking at
Speaker 1: me in the cinema. I think, what's he going to do?
Speaker 1: Because I laugh loud anyway, laugh like my dad, that's
Speaker 1: my And then and when it's really funny, I kind
Speaker 1: of flail around. You know people do that, they sort
Speaker 1: of fall up the chair and stuff. I think it's
Speaker 1: Wayn's world too, ways world too when he has Cassandra's dad. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I didn't know what I was going to do in
Speaker 1: the I laughed as much as when I saw Rick
Speaker 1: my ole life. It was like, oh my, oh my,
Speaker 1: would and when is the scene going to end? You know,
Speaker 1: it just kept coming and again I don't understand by it.
Speaker 1: Doubtless pretty indefensible, but my memory. And it isn't as
Speaker 1: good as a film. It's not as good as Waynesville.
Speaker 1: But the funny bits in it. That scene, oh I laughed.
Speaker 1: I like that. Answering, Rob Deering, you have been an
Speaker 1: absolute delight very much as expected. I too have fantasized
Speaker 1: about this episode with you. It has outlived my expectations. However,
Speaker 1: when you were hanging out in the small village where
Speaker 1: you used to be, yeah, if they found out who
Speaker 1: that was yet, well they have. What happened was you
Speaker 1: were you were, you know where you lived, next to
Speaker 1: the baker and the doctor and the candlestick maker. And
Speaker 1: you've gone for a walk and there appeared little old
Speaker 1: lady called miss Marple, and she said, hey, I'm just visiting.
Speaker 1: And he said, oh, it's lovely to see you. And
Speaker 1: she said, would you mind walking me through the woods,
Speaker 1: And you said, absolutely, of course I would. I love
Speaker 1: nature trails. I usually ran Miss Marple, and you took
Speaker 1: her arm and you walked. And as you headed towards
Speaker 1: some trees where no one could see you, she pulled
Speaker 1: a axe from her back pocket, little MINIAX, and she
Speaker 1: chopped you in the fucking head with it, and she
Speaker 1: repeatedly struck you in the head with her little axe
Speaker 1: until you were dead. And yeah, and then no spoilers,
Speaker 1: but she then framed the candlestick maker for your murder.
Speaker 1: And that person is still languishing in jail and she
Speaker 1: are you saying, do you think that she did all
Speaker 1: the murders in all the stories? Apparently it's not for
Speaker 1: me to say what other murders she may have done.
Speaker 1: I just know she did this one. And an axe
Speaker 1: that small could be very convenient. Now, I was walking
Speaker 1: through the woods in this little Sylvanian family town and
Speaker 1: I and I sit and I'm like, what's this up ahead?
Speaker 1: I'm walking along with the coffin, you know what I'm like,
Speaker 1: And I see animals tearing apart the corpse of someone,
Speaker 1: and then pull up and I'm like, oh, that's robbed deering.
Speaker 1: When you say animals, were they wild animals or were
Speaker 1: they hedgehogs dressed as doctors? There was doctor doctor Badger,
Speaker 1: and Baker Baker of Beaver, and the candlestick cat and
Speaker 1: the ropolis. They were there. Their essential nature had been revealed,
Speaker 1: and they were tearing me to and that's interesting. They
Speaker 1: were eating your SI said, shoe, get out of it.
Speaker 1: And I did what I could. I got the bits
Speaker 1: of you that I could into the coffin. But there
Speaker 1: was shrubbery, wood sticks, all sorts. Anyway that stuff you
Speaker 1: in the coffin. It's absolutely jammed in there like some
Speaker 1: kind of nightmare usually, and there's no room in this
Speaker 1: movisually there's only enough room for me to one DVD
Speaker 1: into the side for you to take across to the
Speaker 1: other side. And on the other side it's movie night
Speaker 1: every night. What film are you taking to show the
Speaker 1: people of heaven when it's your movie night, mister Robding? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is really interesting, isn't it in terms of what
Speaker 1: we said, because you want to take you want to say,
Speaker 1: I'm going to take this film that I absolutely love.
Speaker 1: You know I could. I wonder Wat's too grit? Every day?
Speaker 1: I would cry so much every day. I don't want
Speaker 1: to watch Midnight Run every day. I would cry so
Speaker 1: much every day in the middle of there, in that
Speaker 1: scene where you know the scene. So I think, if
Speaker 1: I'm brewedally honest, let's be completely honest about this, I
Speaker 1: don't think I could ever get sick of watching in
Speaker 1: the Line of Fire, So I would stay with that
Speaker 1: it's going to be. And if I can make an
Speaker 1: emotional claim, I think that I really relate to Clint
Speaker 1: Eastward in these films of his vulnerability, because he does
Speaker 1: remind me emotionally of my late wonderful dad who was
Speaker 1: absolutely fantastic and the best dad, but also in the
Speaker 1: manner of someone born in nineteen forty two, not given
Speaker 1: to bold, wild displays of emotion or hugs. And so
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is that what seems like a fairly
Speaker 1: crass answer does actually have some emotional depth. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I've got a psychopath. All I need to tell you,
Speaker 1: Mother of blood blood, I'm taking in a line of
Speaker 1: fire and I'm not ashamed. Rob Deering, is there anything
Speaker 1: you would like to tell people to look out or
Speaker 1: to listen to or to read in the coming times, Well,
Speaker 1: if you are basically the stuff that you should look
Speaker 1: out for relating to me, it's currently all running related.
Speaker 1: So check that out. I did, and it's all. I've
Speaker 1: got two podcasts, Running Commentary where me and Paul Tomkinson
Speaker 1: talk about life and running while we run. You got
Speaker 1: the Running Tracks Radio Hour where I do the playlist.
Speaker 1: You don't have to run. You could just listen to
Speaker 1: the songs. They're great, but you will have to listen
Speaker 1: to me running telling you about them. And then there's
Speaker 1: the Book of that which is nice. Again if you
Speaker 1: want to, you know, dig a bit deeper into the
Speaker 1: emotion of thing. But it's funny. My book Running Checks.
Speaker 1: The playlist and places that made a runner is available.
Speaker 1: It's gorgeous. It's got Oh can I show you a picture?
Speaker 1: Wait there, wait there, You've got to see this, damn it.
Speaker 1: It's relevant. I should have had one handy. He's running
Speaker 1: to the back of the room. He's running back saying, yes,
Speaker 1: the running have you been standing this whole time? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's where the computer is. Love it. Look you
Speaker 1: can see why I got this bass inspired cover. That gorgeous.
Speaker 1: That is genuinely very cool. It's by me Coop, but
Speaker 1: it was my idea and it looks like for those
Speaker 1: of you listening, it looks it's called Running Checks, but
Speaker 1: it looks like what we're talking about anatomy of a
Speaker 1: murder that's even murder of a man running on the
Speaker 1: grooves of a record. Yeah, yeah, well you did you
Speaker 1: imagine a murder with an axe from a sweet little
Speaker 1: old lady. Thanks very much, but yeah, and fifty percent
Speaker 1: of the profits of that go to Parkinson's UK. Very nice.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking I am going to start a movie podcast
Speaker 1: because I feel like, you know, there's a gap in
Speaker 1: the market. Yeah, Yeah, that's going to be called the
Speaker 1: extras D of the movies, and it's not going to
Speaker 1: be as good as this one, but look out for it.
Speaker 1: It Rob doing God, bless you. Thank you for your time.
Speaker 1: Have a lovely death. Thanks for having me. Sorry I
Speaker 1: had to die for that to take place. Real shame.
Speaker 1: Lots of love. Good day to you, good bye. So
Speaker 1: that was episode one hundred and ninety six. Head over
Speaker 1: to patreon dot com forward slash Brett Goldstein for the
Speaker 1: extra twenty minutes of chat Secrets in video with Rob.
Speaker 1: Go to Apple Podcasts give us a five star rating.
Speaker 1: But right about the film that means the most to
Speaker 1: you and why I'll tell you why you should do
Speaker 1: that because my neighbor more In loves reading it always
Speaker 1: makes her cry. Thank you so much to Rob for
Speaker 1: doing this show. Thank you to Scruby's pipping the Distraction
Speaker 1: Pieces Network. Thanks to Buddy Peace for producing it. Thanks
Speaker 1: to Acast for hosting it. Thanks to Adam Ricism for
Speaker 1: the graphics. At least a lay them for the photography.
Speaker 1: Comes join me next week for another brilliant guest. I
Speaker 1: hope you're all well. Thank you very much for listening.
Speaker 1: That is it now In the meantime, have a lovely week,
Speaker 1: and please be excellent to each other.