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Speaker 1: Now Here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and Welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori

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Speaker 1: with you. Patty Negrie is a psychic medium and a

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Speaker 1: good witch, best known for her recurring role on The

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Speaker 1: Travel Channel's Ghost Adventures and The Paranormal Show on YouTube

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Speaker 1: Overnight with Elton Countati and Corey Shearer. She is the

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Speaker 1: author of Old World Magic for the Modern World. Patty

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Speaker 1: has a popular weekly podcast called The Witching Hour and

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Speaker 1: has launched her second weekly podcast called The Witch's Movie Covin.

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Speaker 1: Patty is also a partner and vice president of paraflix

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Speaker 1: dot com, which is a streaming service, and her book

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Speaker 1: is called Old World Magic for the Modern World. Patty,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to the programs about a couple of years

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Speaker 1: it has. Thank you so much for having me back.

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Speaker 1: I am thrilled and leading me in with the Stevie

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Speaker 1: Nick song nothing better, Jarge, you got that right. Lots

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Speaker 1: to talk with you about. How did you get involved

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Speaker 1: in witchcraft and the paranormal in the first place. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: I think I was just born into both of them.

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Speaker 1: As long as I could remember, I literally being a toddler.

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Speaker 1: I was talking to spirits, and I may knew they

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Speaker 1: weren't just the imaginary friend that you know, our modern

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Speaker 1: Western non mystical society explains to us. I'm like, no,

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Speaker 1: they gave me real information and it just didn't get

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Speaker 1: taught out of me. My mom was like, yeah, Grandma

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Speaker 1: did that, so okay, So it's not a devil, it's

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Speaker 1: nothing bad. And so also paranormal. If you see a

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Speaker 1: fall into that world and on the witchy side of things.

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Speaker 1: On the same end, I would be in our my

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Speaker 1: little suburban backyard picking rosemary and picking mint and stuffing

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Speaker 1: it in my mom's wallet, knowing it would bring her

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Speaker 1: more money. She was not quite their understanding, like what

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Speaker 1: are you doing? No money, No, it's not money, it's weet, No,

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Speaker 1: it's money. And years later I studied plants an apothecary,

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Speaker 1: and I was right, you know, a little toddler running around.

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Speaker 1: So it's just I think it's in the bluff and

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Speaker 1: my imagination. Are more people becoming interested in the paranormal.

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Speaker 1: More and more people are becoming interested in the paranormal

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Speaker 1: bigger by the day, Like the show you know that

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Speaker 1: I do regular ghost adventures. It's in like it's the

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Speaker 1: twenty sixth season or something like that. I don't know

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Speaker 1: how to do the math on TV because it's like

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Speaker 1: twelve years twenty. I don't That doesn't add up math wise.

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Speaker 1: But no, look at every every station. Travel Channel is

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Speaker 1: almost all the regular shows like not docuseries and not

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Speaker 1: reality put on a paranormal aspect to it. I last

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Speaker 1: year started UM a streaming service called Paraflix. It's like Netflix,

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Speaker 1: but it's all paranormal with nine new programming because everybody

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Speaker 1: had already seen everything on Travel Channel and Discovery. Plus

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Speaker 1: it's growing and growing and growing. Well, why the interest?

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Speaker 1: I think a couple of things. One. I do think

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Speaker 1: that the veil literally is stinning between the world, and

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Speaker 1: more and more paranormal or unexplainable to the old fashion

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Speaker 1: of logical science is happening. More haunted houses, more things,

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Speaker 1: and better equipment, all these where it used to be

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Speaker 1: if I as a MEETUM was going and the ghost

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Speaker 1: is waving their left hand saying hi, and people believe

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Speaker 1: me or not believe me. Now there's this new invention

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Speaker 1: called the n SLS camera that I'm in one room

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Speaker 1: showing a green stick figure doing the same thing. We

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Speaker 1: catching up. So I think it's more stuff, is it? Literally,

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Speaker 1: as we move into that age of Aquarius they sang

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Speaker 1: other reason is the world is scary, and so people

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Speaker 1: Have you ever had a bad, pure normal experienced, Patty,

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Speaker 1: I have had a couple you have, Can you share

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Speaker 1: them with us? Yes, I bladly will again. I've since

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Speaker 1: I was a little kid, always believed that it's not

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Speaker 1: But I've always had a respect. But whenever you get

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Speaker 1: and not humans or dead humans. I was doing a sance,

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Speaker 1: one of the things I'm known for. We were actually

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Speaker 1: stayed there, Mamas and Papa's, Graham Parsons, all these really creaty,

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Speaker 1: And then he said something again, and then it happened again,

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Speaker 1: like white noise. It sounded literally like a ghost box,

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Speaker 1: But that's the problem. Yeah, we can talk about that too.

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Speaker 1: But the kids said something again. Really and not him,

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Speaker 1: Two cameras actually caught it, this guy spontaneously combusting. One

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Speaker 1: you know cool, which medium patty becomes a medic patty,

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Speaker 1: of which I am, I'm an emt a. I am

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Speaker 1: calling in all my guardians and wards to shut it down.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, we are done. I don't care what we're filming.

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Speaker 1: This is not okay. No one bursts into flames on

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Speaker 1: His shirt burnt off him George, like it was a synthetic.

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Speaker 1: Three weeks later, he showed me his back. He goes

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Speaker 1: Patty looking my back and where the scarring had been

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Speaker 1: But I literally they wrote it actually with Stephen Norrington,

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Speaker 1: Cherry's so real, left of center Hollywood. But I did

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Speaker 1: what did he do wrong to get abused like that?

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Speaker 1: to the Asana asylum. Those are gonna be much meaner

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