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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty arms Strong

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<v Speaker 1>and Jettietie and he Armstrong and Yetty.

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<v Speaker 2>The FBI and Department of Homeland Security has issued a

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<v Speaker 2>warning saying October seventh, quote maybe a motivating factor for

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<v Speaker 2>violent extrements and hate crime perpetrators who are trying to

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<v Speaker 2>threaten public safety. The agency advising potential targets include synagogue, moss,

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<v Speaker 2>Islamic and community centers, and large gatherings. Authorities are concerned

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<v Speaker 2>over the possibility of lone wolf attacks, but authorities at

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<v Speaker 2>this time say there's no credible threat but remain on

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<v Speaker 2>high alerts.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's a one year anniversary of the massacre in

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<v Speaker 3>Israel by Hamas, and they always do this around anniversaries.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if I remember a single example of

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<v Speaker 3>an anniversary leading to something, but it's not roy terrorists

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<v Speaker 3>generally work actually, But anyway, that's a separate story. Let's

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<v Speaker 3>hear one more report.

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<v Speaker 1>On this before we start commenting.

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<v Speaker 4>This is already now a much wider war. What started

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<v Speaker 4>in and around Gaza on October the seventh, that singular

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<v Speaker 4>terrifying attack inside Israel is now morphed into a conflict

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<v Speaker 4>that has drawn in Lebanon, Iran, Iraq, Syria and Yeminence.

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<v Speaker 4>We've now had fourteen straight days of.

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<v Speaker 1>Day and night bombing.

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<v Speaker 4>I think a lot now depends on how Israel response

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<v Speaker 4>to that Uranian missile stripe does. Nettanna, who now decide

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<v Speaker 4>to settle all scores for all the enemies he has

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<v Speaker 4>around him. Iran is enemy number one certainly for Netanya?

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<v Speaker 4>Who or can the US persuade Natannaho to try and

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<v Speaker 4>calibrate his response to reduce the risk of even further escalation.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, Trump over the weekend, in an interview,

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<v Speaker 3>said Israel absolutely should take out those nuclear facilities, Joe

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<v Speaker 3>Biden having said specifically no, Israel should not.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you escalate?

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<v Speaker 3>Right, have that on the list. Which that's a pretty

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<v Speaker 3>big difference right there. I mean, if you're looking for

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<v Speaker 3>policy differences between the two White Houses, that's a pretty

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<v Speaker 3>big one. Trump's encouraging them to take out the nuclear facilities,

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<v Speaker 3>which I think they should also, Right.

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<v Speaker 5>If you're looking for a reason to hold your nose

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<v Speaker 5>and go ahead and cast a vote despite your ill

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<v Speaker 5>ease with one candidate or the other. I would say,

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<v Speaker 5>the one who's standing up against the axis of Islamist

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<v Speaker 5>nut jobbery and viciousness is you know, perhaps a better choice.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's up to you. Of course.

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<v Speaker 5>I've been reading a great deal about let's about October

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<v Speaker 5>seventh itself, because I fully absorbed that horror on that

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<v Speaker 5>day and have been reminded of it plenty of times.

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<v Speaker 1>Although it's just unspeakable.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was just I was just looking at they

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<v Speaker 3>have a like a moment of silence going on right

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<v Speaker 3>now at the grounds of the Nova Music Festival. I

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<v Speaker 3>have stood on some like battlefields. I've been to ground zero,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, places where people died and everything like that. Man,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if I could handle that music festival

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<v Speaker 3>ground one year later with some of the stories that

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<v Speaker 3>have come out of there, all those people chopped up

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<v Speaker 3>and raped to death and everything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, that is unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, never mind the kibbutzas, the homes where families were

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<v Speaker 5>burned alive, children executed, mothers raped in front of their children,

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<v Speaker 5>then murdered.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's.

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<v Speaker 5>Unspeakable horror by subhuman animals. In my opinion, Israel says

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<v Speaker 5>nearly twelve hundred people died that day. That's how they

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<v Speaker 5>said it on NPR, Israel says as opposed to just

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<v Speaker 5>reporting the number. And then they went Hamas says forty

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<v Speaker 5>thousand people have died, blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 3>So they're putting them you know, yeah, they're both saying this.

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<v Speaker 3>Who knows what's true and what's not? Really wow, As.

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<v Speaker 5>Usual, my focus is more on what to do about it,

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<v Speaker 5>as opposed to, you know, the mourning part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's fine. I'm not saying it's in appropate.

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<v Speaker 5>But I'm especially curious about the way things are going

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<v Speaker 5>to go in the Middle East and with Israel specifically.

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<v Speaker 5>And I was intrigued by some writing by Shandy Race

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<v Speaker 5>in the Wall Street Journal one year after October seventh,

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<v Speaker 5>Israel sees a future at war, And I was.

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<v Speaker 1>Just scanning the article. It takes a long time to

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<v Speaker 1>get to it.

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<v Speaker 5>I thought the key sentence from it, and I'm going

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<v Speaker 5>to counter, I'm sorry, I'm going to paraphrase is that

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<v Speaker 5>Israel's new peace plan is to defeat its enemies. And

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<v Speaker 5>when you look at it like that and phrase it

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<v Speaker 5>like that, I think it gives you the clarity you need.

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<v Speaker 1>One year, I'm going to quote from the article.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, one year after the brutal Hamas attack that ended

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<v Speaker 5>Israel's two decade golden age of relative peace, expanding wealth,

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<v Speaker 5>and growing diplomatic ties, the country is now firmly on

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<v Speaker 5>the counter attack.

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<v Speaker 1>And preparing to be at war. For years.

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<v Speaker 5>Lost a series of stunning attacks, they go into the list.

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<v Speaker 5>The campaign marks an aggressive shift in Israel's security posture.

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<v Speaker 5>For years, the military aim to provide long stretches of

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<v Speaker 5>piece that were only momentarily punctured by short conflicts with

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<v Speaker 5>Palestinian militants. There were occasional military maneuvers aimed at downgrading

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<v Speaker 5>the axis, but they were never severe enough to draw retaliation.

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<v Speaker 5>Then they mentioned that Israel saw its GDP sore. It's

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<v Speaker 5>bustling capital, Tel Aviv, became a beautiful, affluent Mediterranean city.

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<v Speaker 1>But after October seventh.

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<v Speaker 5>Israel can no longer allow its enemies the time and

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<v Speaker 5>space to build up arsenals that can pose an existential threat.

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<v Speaker 5>Many have come to believe quote preemptive wars will be

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<v Speaker 5>in the future of the Israeli part of the Israeli

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<v Speaker 5>Toolkit Kit said in National Security advisor. That's clearly true,

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<v Speaker 5>absolutely true, and it's not a choice, it's an existential reality.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what point it would be okay to

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<v Speaker 3>say preemptive because it, like I said last week, it

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<v Speaker 3>really bothered me that they use that term in the debate.

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<v Speaker 3>Would you support or oppose Israel launching a preemptive strike

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<v Speaker 3>on Iran? Preemptive after they just had two hundred ballistic

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<v Speaker 3>missiles fired up them?

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<v Speaker 1>That would be a preemptive strike to hit them back?

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<v Speaker 5>What, Yeah, and something like five hundred if you go

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<v Speaker 5>back to April and totally Yeah, good point.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I like Dn Panels report on CBS because it

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<v Speaker 3>did put the focus on what you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>We're a year out and it's as hot as ever.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a chance Israel and Iran are at full blown

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<v Speaker 3>war today. You could make the argument that they already are,

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<v Speaker 3>with the United States involved. So, yeah, this thing is

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<v Speaker 3>far from decided from what happened a year ago.

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<v Speaker 5>How about this sentence, different piece. Hamasa's massacre last October

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<v Speaker 5>seventh was a catastrophe for Israelis, but a year later,

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<v Speaker 5>it has also taught the West forgotten lessons about deterrence

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<v Speaker 5>political will and the illusions of a liberal, peaceful world.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, that's pretty good, I am. Those kind of statements

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<v Speaker 3>make me sad because I don't feel like we're I know,

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<v Speaker 3>we don't fully understand that as a country.

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<v Speaker 5>It's not that surprising that the most comfortable and affluent

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<v Speaker 5>countries would be the last to wake up to the

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<v Speaker 5>ugly reality that's never ever changed in all of human history,

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<v Speaker 5>but once every couple of decades, particularly post fall of

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<v Speaker 5>the Soviet Union. And this has made me insane watching

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<v Speaker 5>the politics of this play out.

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<v Speaker 1>Once in a while, we fall.

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<v Speaker 5>Into this belief that, oh, human nature's changed, we're all interconnected,

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<v Speaker 5>they're no more extremists and ugly people. Everything's great. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>we can disarm and we'll be fine. Israel fell into

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<v Speaker 5>that stupor yep, of all places.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, that's a decent point if they can. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not surprising that we do, because we don't have

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<v Speaker 3>enemies right on our border firing rockets at us every

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<v Speaker 3>day like Israel does. And they still were lulled into complacency.

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<v Speaker 3>How about this? This is new Today. French President Emmanuel

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<v Speaker 3>Macrone called for a halt on arms deliveries to Israel

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<v Speaker 3>for use in Gaza. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyah, who said

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<v Speaker 3>blah blah blah, Western leaders don't understand the threat French president,

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<v Speaker 3>But how about that France is calling for a halt

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<v Speaker 3>for the use of their weapons against Hamas.

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<v Speaker 1>Why.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know a lot about the current state of

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<v Speaker 5>French politics, just that Macrone's party is starting to flounder.

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<v Speaker 5>And if you think jee Biden and Kamala Harris have

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<v Speaker 5>a problem with Muslim voters in Michigan, France's entire you know,

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<v Speaker 5>the suburbs of Paris are huge enclaves of Muslim voters.

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<v Speaker 5>And I just wonder whether that's a domestic political reality

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<v Speaker 5>that you will never read about in your mainstream publications.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not going to bring that up.

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<v Speaker 5>By the way, the reason Macrone asking Israel to lay

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<v Speaker 5>off isn't because it's not a moral judgment. It's an

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<v Speaker 5>electoral judgment. You have to dig to find that sort

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<v Speaker 5>of you know, perspective.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>It's also been surprising to me for the past year that,

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<v Speaker 3>for whatever reason, American hostages being held by Hamas hasn't

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<v Speaker 3>turned into a story. There are still nearly a hundred hostages,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of them may be dead. The ones that aren't,

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<v Speaker 3>who knows what the hell is they've been living in

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<v Speaker 3>for the last year.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of women, but.

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<v Speaker 3>There are four Americans there that just basically never get

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<v Speaker 3>mentioned by either party really or any news outlet.

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<v Speaker 1>So getting back to the.

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<v Speaker 3>Hostagle, we'll say that again, what is that, Prime Minister

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<v Speaker 3>of England.

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<v Speaker 1>The return of thescal We need the.

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<v Speaker 5>Return of the sausages. It's still bizarre and hilarious. So

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<v Speaker 5>they're in context, it's a little less fun yeah, So.

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<v Speaker 1>Getting back to what makes.

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<v Speaker 3>It so how funny though, it's a horrific context and

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<v Speaker 3>a very important line in front of the un And

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<v Speaker 3>this is the one thing that needs to happen, of

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<v Speaker 3>all things, God willing the.

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<v Speaker 1>Return of the sausages.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean hostages, yes, hostigle.

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<v Speaker 5>I am certain that we have crafted the word horrfarious,

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<v Speaker 5>something that is simultaneously horrifying and hilarious. That was horrfarious.

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<v Speaker 5>So getting back to the Wall Street Journal's editorial board.

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<v Speaker 5>In a separate piece, they talk about how the world

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<v Speaker 5>must never forget the videos of Hamas's atrocity, how they

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<v Speaker 5>slaughtered the defenseless deliberately and in close range. I won't

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<v Speaker 5>go on and on took the hostages. Hamas is proud

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<v Speaker 5>of this handy work and repeated it would repeat it

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<v Speaker 5>if it could. As Hamas Paulaburo member Gazi Ahmad put

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<v Speaker 5>it on Lebon's TV.

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<v Speaker 1>The terror group would like to repeat October seventh.

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<v Speaker 5>Again and again. Now this is the part that I

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<v Speaker 5>want to at least touch on. Another ugly surprise has

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<v Speaker 5>been the support for Hamas's argument in the West, especially

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<v Speaker 5>on elite college campuses. The intellectual case for murderous terror,

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<v Speaker 5>made by Franz Fannon and taught without hesitation for two generations,

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<v Speaker 5>has poisoned the young against their own civilization. Students for

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<v Speaker 5>Justice in Palestine on October seventh, these are Americans called

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<v Speaker 5>it a historic win for Palestinian resistance, and anti Semitism

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<v Speaker 5>was tolerated by university presidents as free speech. I don't

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<v Speaker 5>expect you to spend a lot of time and energy

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<v Speaker 5>getting up to speed on this. I hope you can

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<v Speaker 5>just trust me on this, and if you want, read

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<v Speaker 5>James Lindsay and Helen Pluckrose's Cynical Theories. It's an absolutely

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<v Speaker 5>terrific book and helps you understand what's going on with

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<v Speaker 5>the neo Marxism, but I went ahead and dug back

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<v Speaker 5>into France.

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<v Speaker 1>Fannon who he was. He is an.

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<v Speaker 5>Incredibly influential thinker on the campuses of America's quote unquote eliteies.

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<v Speaker 5>He was a French Afro Caribbean psychiatrist, political philosopher and

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<v Speaker 5>Marxist from Martinique, French colony at the time. His works

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<v Speaker 5>have become influential in the fields of post colonial studies,

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<v Speaker 5>critical theory, and Marxism. He was a political radical, a

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<v Speaker 5>Marxist humanist, and was concerned with the psychopathology of colonization.

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<v Speaker 5>Among his many theories is that anything, anything, anything is

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<v Speaker 5>justified in the name of decolonization. Any brutality is justified

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<v Speaker 5>to decolonialize. The kids are just spouting what their professors

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<v Speaker 5>have taught them. And by the way, Fannin also said

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<v Speaker 5>to achieve full decolonization, the post colonial society should reject

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<v Speaker 5>European capitalism as a path to economic and social development.

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<v Speaker 5>He is a full on violent Marxist and he you've

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<v Speaker 5>never heard heard his name before.

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<v Speaker 1>That's funny, because your.

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<v Speaker 5>Little kids are paying an arm of a leg in

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<v Speaker 5>a neck for their tuition, are being taught about Fannin

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<v Speaker 5>all day long.

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<v Speaker 3>I just downloaded the Cynical Theories audio book. I need

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<v Speaker 3>to listen to that because I haven't gotten around to

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<v Speaker 3>it yet. And mentioned that noble musical festival where they

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<v Speaker 3>Hamas went in and murdered all those lots of lots

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<v Speaker 3>of young girls. All it was a peace festival, all

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<v Speaker 3>filled with people who believe in, let's be friends with

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<v Speaker 3>the moss. Right here on the border, we can all

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<v Speaker 3>get along. They came in and raped you to death.

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<v Speaker 3>College kids, if you had been there at the peace

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<v Speaker 3>festival saying up with the Moss, they would have come.

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<v Speaker 1>Into a machine, gunned you yeah, and raped you yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>What the hell? How do you not get that? Anyway?

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<v Speaker 3>I got lots of other stuff on the way. I

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<v Speaker 3>have a Beethoven question for Joe. It's very important. Much

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<v Speaker 3>On the way, stay here, a woman in Italy has

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<v Speaker 3>set a new world record for having the world's thickest tongue.

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<v Speaker 1>Reach for comment. The woman said, thanks, how about that?

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<v Speaker 1>Too easy? Easy? But it still made me laugh out loud.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it because he took the easy joke was

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<v Speaker 1>just funny.

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<v Speaker 3>Sight coming up, we'll hear a little of Trump from

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<v Speaker 3>his big rally in Pennsylvania over the weekend at the

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<v Speaker 3>spot where he got shot at and Elon was there,

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<v Speaker 3>so that was a big deal.

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<v Speaker 5>And how politics are tearing apart. A California retirement community.

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<v Speaker 3>I listened to a tremendous amount of beeth often over

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<v Speaker 3>the weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Generally I don't listen to any so any amount would

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<v Speaker 3>be a lot more, but a lot like constantly over

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<v Speaker 3>the weekend. It was really digging it. I got back

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<v Speaker 3>into this book I started reading years ago about Beethoven's

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<v Speaker 3>Ninth Symphony. There's a whole book about it. And the

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<v Speaker 3>anniversary is this year is the two one hundred year anniversary.

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<v Speaker 3>It was eighteen twenty four, two hundred year aniversary of

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<v Speaker 3>Beethoven's first playing of the ninth century, and there's a

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<v Speaker 3>whole book about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Night Symphony is a whole book about it.

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<v Speaker 3>But anyway, if you were recommending because you like classical

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<v Speaker 3>music and listen to it, if you were gonna like

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<v Speaker 3>if you were if somebody is saying, I really like

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<v Speaker 3>Bruce Springsteen, what should I listen to? You would have

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of songs to point him to that are

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<v Speaker 3>like the best examples of why people like Bruce Springsteen.

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<v Speaker 3>What would what would be your recommendations for Beethoven? Oh goodness,

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<v Speaker 3>if you're going to throw on well, that's not right,

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<v Speaker 3>because you might throw on stuff that's not the best introduction,

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<v Speaker 3>because you're tired of Stairway.

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<v Speaker 1>To Heaven or Born to Run or whatever.

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<v Speaker 5>I would like to think I'm unpretentious enough though, to say, oh,

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<v Speaker 5>you're just getting into this band, here's where it is.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, I do do that.

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<v Speaker 3>So I just so, where do you start with Beethoven?

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<v Speaker 3>I can tell you what my favorite is, having gone

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<v Speaker 3>through it quite a bit over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, obviously, you know, people know the fifth Symphony Boum,

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<v Speaker 5>and then they know enough of the first movement that

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<v Speaker 5>that can get them into it. I would recommend if

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<v Speaker 5>you want to do this, listen to the same symphony

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<v Speaker 5>three times in a row. Because there are so many

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<v Speaker 5>ideas and the complexity is so much different than a

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<v Speaker 5>pop song, it takes you a while to get it.

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<v Speaker 5>Once you get it, and you hear one idea flow

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<v Speaker 5>into another and then become a third idea that combines

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<v Speaker 5>the two, and then you hear a variation of the

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<v Speaker 5>first idea, and you just it's such a groove. It's

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<v Speaker 5>so cool, but it's it's it's like the difference between

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<v Speaker 5>learning your ABC's and and learning, you know, nuclear science.

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<v Speaker 3>Certainly a lot easier to listen to call me maybe

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<v Speaker 3>than it is the beef Oven as.

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<v Speaker 5>Somebody who's jamming the uh we're getting tipsy at the bar,

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<v Speaker 5>song on the golf course the other day.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a big fan of the sixth Symphony, the Pastoral Symphony,

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<v Speaker 3>which is all about walking through a field. And as

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<v Speaker 3>a guy who's walked through many fields as a rube,

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<v Speaker 3>love that.

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<v Speaker 5>And then a giant thunderstorm breaks out and there's violence

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<v Speaker 5>and storm and drong. But then the sunshine emerges again,

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<v Speaker 5>the beasts come out, and the birds twitter.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the sex.

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<v Speaker 3>I have so much more to say about Beethoven, the

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<v Speaker 3>person that I wanted to get to, but maybe another time.

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<v Speaker 3>He was an He was an angry man, just kind

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<v Speaker 3>of funny because.

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<v Speaker 1>He hated poppies.

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<v Speaker 3>And massive crowd in Pennsylvania at the site where Trump

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<v Speaker 3>got shot in the first assassination at tenth and the

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<v Speaker 3>crowd goes wild from Lee Greenwood. They're singing God, Bussy,

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<v Speaker 3>you say, I'm listening to the crowd.

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<v Speaker 1>That is something I'm struck.

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<v Speaker 2>By.

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<v Speaker 5>The oversimplification but powerful description. One of the candidates and

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<v Speaker 5>his voters clearly love the United States of America, and

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<v Speaker 5>one side seems ashamed of the country. It's an overstatement, oversimplification,

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<v Speaker 5>like I said, but I think it's mostly true.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a lot of energy outside of Barack Obama. In

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<v Speaker 3>my life, I don't remember anybody getting crowds to sound

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<v Speaker 3>like that. So Trump gets up there and they put

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<v Speaker 3>up the chart that he turned to look at last

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<v Speaker 3>time he was there, and if he hadn't turned to

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<v Speaker 3>look at the chart, he'd probably be dead, as we

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<v Speaker 3>all know. He turns, the bullet whizzes by, catches his ear,

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<v Speaker 3>and they put up the chart, and here's Trump.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you, a very big thank you to Pennsylvania.

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<v Speaker 1>We love Pennsylvania.

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<v Speaker 6>And as I was saying, oh, I love that, I

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<v Speaker 6>love that chart.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that graph. Isn't it a beautiful thing?

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<v Speaker 6>But also beautiful because look at the number that's the

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<v Speaker 6>day I left office, it was the lowest border patrol,

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<v Speaker 6>the lowest it's ever been.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually gets into some of the policy stuff, which is,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the stuff people care about the economy, and immigration.

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<v Speaker 3>Love when he sticks with that, hate when he doesn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Elon Musk was there and it got mentioned a little

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<v Speaker 3>in the news. If Beyonce or Bruce Springsteen were on

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<v Speaker 3>stage with Kamala Harris, it would get lots of attention,

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<v Speaker 3>as if that freaking matters. But the world's most successful man,

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<v Speaker 3>who you could actually make an arm argument you know

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<v Speaker 3>what he thinks matters, was there and whatever, He's just

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<v Speaker 3>a Trump or so who cares, It's just not really

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<v Speaker 3>worth mentioning in the evening news. Bruce Springsteen huge coverage

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<v Speaker 3>Elon support video on every news channel of please, oh yeah, why?

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<v Speaker 3>Why am I making a difficult comparison? What if Elon

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<v Speaker 3>Musk was doing the same thing for Kamala Harris and

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<v Speaker 3>on stage and talking about her and throwing his support

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<v Speaker 3>behind her, obviously they'd be talked up as a huge deal. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>here's a little Elon.

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<v Speaker 7>But the true test of someone's character is how they

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<v Speaker 7>behave under fire. And we had one president who couldn't

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<v Speaker 7>climb a flat of stairs and another who was fist

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<v Speaker 7>pumping after getting shot.

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<v Speaker 3>Fight fight, fight, So Elon on his Twitter feed, what

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<v Speaker 3>followers does he have?

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<v Speaker 1>Let me look that up real quick on Twitter.

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<v Speaker 3>He his avatar used to be him in a weird

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<v Speaker 3>spaceman outfit for some, but now his avatar is him

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<v Speaker 3>in a Maga hat make America Great Again hat. He

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<v Speaker 3>has two hundred million followers. That's that's a solid following

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<v Speaker 3>that could that could actually move some votes among especially

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<v Speaker 3>among like young men who look to really successful other men,

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<v Speaker 3>as you know, for some guidance in the world.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think so, given how close things are, I

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<v Speaker 5>think it's significant. Yeah, that's not like when the senator

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<v Speaker 5>from Ohio is he's in der he's announced his endorsement.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I've been mocking endorsements in my entire talk

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<v Speaker 3>radio career. I generally think they don't matter at all.

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<v Speaker 3>But I could see him Elon Musk walking out there

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<v Speaker 3>being a nudge direction or another. It is amazing that

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<v Speaker 3>the world's richest man has thrown his support is solidly

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<v Speaker 3>behind one candidate. I'm not even sure I think it's

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<v Speaker 3>a good idea for him, but he thinks he is.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we'll let him say why would I say it?

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<v Speaker 1>The next clip there, Michael fifty.

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<v Speaker 7>Six, thanks, the most important election of our lifetime.

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<v Speaker 1>This is no ordinary election.

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<v Speaker 7>The other side wants to take away your freedom of speech.

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<v Speaker 7>You must have free speech in order to have democracy.

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<v Speaker 7>That's why it's the first Amendment, and the second Amendment

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<v Speaker 7>is there to ensure that we have the first Amendment.

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<v Speaker 3>This last thirty days, I guess twenty eight days as

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<v Speaker 3>of tomorrow. This last four week stretch is going to

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<v Speaker 3>be wild. The intensity was ratcheted up so much yesterday.

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<v Speaker 3>I noticed on the Sunday talk shows, which nobody watches

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<v Speaker 3>and you shouldn't to waste your life, but the intensity

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<v Speaker 3>and exaggerations, slash lies from everybody was ratcheted up quite

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<v Speaker 3>a bit from previous weeks and it was already at ten.

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<v Speaker 3>So this last four week stretch is going to be nutty.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I loved was it Margaret Brennan or one.

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<v Speaker 5>Of the lefty she Wolves of Sunday TV Meet the Press,

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<v Speaker 5>Kristen Welker, saying that the idea that FEMA spent money

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<v Speaker 5>on illegal immigrants is false. That's an urban legend, that's

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<v Speaker 5>false when it's clearly documentably true that they have tens

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<v Speaker 5>of million, hundreds of millions at all. Oh, by the way,

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<v Speaker 5>not a she wolf, lovely and nice person. We've had

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<v Speaker 5>on the air many many times. Shannon Breem of Fox,

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<v Speaker 5>who's a very smart woman. She interviewed Tim Walls. Credit

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<v Speaker 5>to Tim Walls for going on Fox and answering the

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<v Speaker 5>hard questions.

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<v Speaker 3>But man, she was ready to go. Well, I have

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<v Speaker 3>to play some of that later in its own segment

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<v Speaker 3>because there's a.

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<v Speaker 1>Lot of good stuff there.

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<v Speaker 3>And she nailed down that whole some of the abortion

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<v Speaker 3>claims about various women that have died. She clarified that

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<v Speaker 3>in a way that they certainly didn't do on the

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<v Speaker 3>debate the other nights. We'll play some of that later

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<v Speaker 3>for you left.

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<v Speaker 5>The old coach is sputtering, Well, here's a revolutionary idea.

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<v Speaker 5>You give me ninety seconds to lay out the case

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<v Speaker 5>that Harris Waltz are hostile to free speech.

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<v Speaker 1>Will break on time and come back with that. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we could any I.

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<v Speaker 3>Wonder hear about the old folks home. You're telling me

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<v Speaker 3>about that sound very jersey.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, No, I don't know. I've got like

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<v Speaker 1>ninety seconds.

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<v Speaker 5>I can tell a long, rambling thing about old folks

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<v Speaker 5>are at each other's throats over politics in the Bay

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<v Speaker 5>Area of California. Gee, I guess which side is trying

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<v Speaker 5>to express the other one. Uh, we can't get to

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<v Speaker 5>that eventually, right, Well, we've lost forty five seconds now

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<v Speaker 5>arguing about which thing I'm going to do, So now

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<v Speaker 5>I have time to do neither.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's disappointing to both to me and the audience.

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<v Speaker 3>And the milliar the lawyer milks the goat or the

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<v Speaker 3>and and so she sold her hair brush. She sold

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<v Speaker 3>her hair to buy a hairbrush for something.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, something something, and then the goat, yeah, yeah, I will.

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<v Speaker 5>I will tell you this Harrison Walls together, if you

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<v Speaker 5>weave together the many statements that they have made of

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<v Speaker 5>the sort I mean, for instance, the First Amendment doesn't

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<v Speaker 5>protect hate speech or misinformation. That is specifically what it

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<v Speaker 5>freaking protects.

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<v Speaker 1>That is at the core of it.

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<v Speaker 5>Unpopular speech, controversial speech, speech which you would like to ban,

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<v Speaker 5>and the whole fire and a crowded theater thing, which

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<v Speaker 5>is from the terrible Shank versus the US case. And

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<v Speaker 5>never repeat that, by the way, it's it's falsehood. But

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<v Speaker 5>when you read down the whole case that can be

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<v Speaker 5>made against Harris Walls and their record on free speech,

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<v Speaker 5>it is a serious threat to free speech. This is

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<v Speaker 5>not some sort of fanciful. You know, paranoia, exercise in paranoia. Now, granted,

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<v Speaker 5>especially as it's currently constituted the free the Supreme Court

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<v Speaker 5>would eventually just absolutely sack it out of the park

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<v Speaker 5>if the case went before them. But they are trying

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<v Speaker 5>to aggressively tout the idea that they can regulate speech

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<v Speaker 5>and approve and disapprove your political speech over and over again.

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<v Speaker 3>Well that's what disgusting Gavin was trying to do in

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<v Speaker 3>California right by outlawing ai satire. So who's gonna determine

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<v Speaker 3>what's the satire and what's not? You Ald, you have

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<v Speaker 3>a panel of geniuses that will get it right. That's

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<v Speaker 3>so crazy.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, the federal judge took about as long to look

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<v Speaker 5>at that case as you would if your kids suggested

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<v Speaker 5>you get a grizzly bear. I mean, judge was like

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<v Speaker 5>no with.

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<v Speaker 1>This, okay?

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<v Speaker 3>Little Tim Walls on Fox News Sunday again, credit to

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<v Speaker 3>him for going in and how my we gole head?

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<v Speaker 1>At times you are a knuckleheaded.

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<v Speaker 3>Times more on the way stay here.

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<v Speaker 8>I will own up when I misspeak, I will owe

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<v Speaker 8>up when I make a mistake. My constituents here in

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<v Speaker 8>Minnesota have elected me eight times. They know where I'm at,

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<v Speaker 8>and I'm poud to be on the ticket and we'll

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<v Speaker 8>deliver just like we have here in Minnesota.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, there's Tim Walls who was on Fox News Sunday yesterday,

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<v Speaker 3>and good for him for going onto that show. Although

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<v Speaker 3>if you're a Republican, your only option for news coverage

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<v Speaker 3>is to go into the lions Den every day, all

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<v Speaker 3>day long, constantly. But it's a big deal if a

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<v Speaker 3>Democrat ever does it, because they don't have to very often.

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<v Speaker 3>And anyway, for whatever reason, Tim Walls went on there,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was glad that Shannon Breen, the host of

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<v Speaker 3>Fox News Sunday, got into some of this abortion stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>He threw around a lot of names of a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of women.

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<v Speaker 3>Who either were really hurt or died because they couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>get what do they call it, women's.

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<v Speaker 5>Reprovotive health care in particular?

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<v Speaker 3>Now, no doubt there it is more restrictive in some

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<v Speaker 3>areas of the country. It's harder to get an abortion

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<v Speaker 3>than it used to be. But if you've got lots

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<v Speaker 3>of examples of women dying because of this, then why

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<v Speaker 3>would you have to make up some of them like

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<v Speaker 3>it seems Tim Walls has done.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's listen to this conversation.

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<v Speaker 9>I want to clarify what the law is there in Minnesota.

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<v Speaker 9>Abortion Finder, a website that helps women find access, says

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<v Speaker 9>abortion is legal throughout pregnancy in Minnesota. There is no

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<v Speaker 9>ban or limit on abortion in Minnesota based on how

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<v Speaker 9>far along in a pregnancy you are. You sign the

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<v Speaker 9>bill that makes it legal through all nine months. Is

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<v Speaker 9>that a position you think Democrats should advocate for nationally?

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<v Speaker 8>Look, the Vice President, I have been clear, the restoration

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<v Speaker 8>of Roe versus Wade is what we're asking for.

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<v Speaker 1>This Womanblrov Wade can make our own. The law is

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<v Speaker 1>very clear.

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<v Speaker 8>It does not change that that has been debunked on

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<v Speaker 8>every occasion.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is age. Let's agree.

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<v Speaker 9>What you signed is there's not a single limit through

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<v Speaker 9>nine months of pregnancy. Roe had a trimester framework that

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<v Speaker 9>did have limits through the pregnancy. The Minnesota law does

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<v Speaker 9>not have that.

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<v Speaker 1>This puts.

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<v Speaker 8>This puts the decision with the woman in her health

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<v Speaker 8>care providers. The situation we have is when you don't

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<v Speaker 8>have the ability of health care provide to provide that.

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<v Speaker 8>That's where you end up with a situation like Amanda's

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<v Speaker 8>Worski in Texas, where they are afraid to do what's necessary.

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<v Speaker 8>This doesn't change anything. It puts the decision back on

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<v Speaker 8>to the woman, to the physicians, and we know that

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<v Speaker 8>this is simply something to be brought up.

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<v Speaker 3>So that was the topic of the law that he

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<v Speaker 3>signed in Minnesota, and whether or not it allows abortion

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<v Speaker 3>clear up to the end or perhaps beyond, which he

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<v Speaker 3>said had been fact checked to death.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it has.

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<v Speaker 3>It's been fact checked to death against you, right, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and then well.

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<v Speaker 1>He's tired of it too much fact checking.

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<v Speaker 3>And then a couple of the names that he throws

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<v Speaker 3>around of women that died because of not beginning being

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<v Speaker 3>able to get the proper care in his words, one

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<v Speaker 3>of them being a woman in Georgia. Shannon Breem made

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<v Speaker 3>this point, but to be clear.

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<v Speaker 9>That lot it's far beyond rov Wade and about the

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<v Speaker 9>inber Thurban case in Georgia. Her family has and it's tragic.

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<v Speaker 1>She is a young.

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<v Speaker 9>Mother who left behind a young son. So what her

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<v Speaker 9>family has said is it was a complication from an

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<v Speaker 9>abortion pill that she received and she didn't get proper

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<v Speaker 9>care when she went to a Georgia hospital, which had

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<v Speaker 9>multiple opportunities to intervene there.

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<v Speaker 1>Her own attorney.

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<v Speaker 9>The family's attorney says it wasn't the Georgia law, it

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<v Speaker 9>was the hospitals. What he claims is malpractice not treating

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<v Speaker 9>for her when she clearly showed up in distress and

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<v Speaker 9>still had the byproducts of her pregnancy because of that

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<v Speaker 9>rare complication from the abortion pill. So just to be

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<v Speaker 9>clear on the Georgia law and how her family and

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<v Speaker 9>her attorney sees it.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, that's one of the names they throw around constantly,

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<v Speaker 3>this poor woman down in Georgia who died as an

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<v Speaker 3>example of the evil right wing abortion laws. And you know, again,

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<v Speaker 3>if you got a whole bunch of good examples of

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<v Speaker 3>how women are dying left and right from not being

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<v Speaker 3>able to get the proper abortions, then why do you

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<v Speaker 3>throw out one that's clearly a lie, as Shannon Brene

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<v Speaker 3>pointed out there, and you can google it, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>not just in New York Post and Fox. There are

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<v Speaker 3>plenty of other publications that point out her own lawyers

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<v Speaker 3>saying no, it wasn't about the abortion. It was a

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<v Speaker 3>bad the hospital did a bad job of treating somebody.

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<v Speaker 3>And people die from mistakes all the time in this country,

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<v Speaker 3>and this is one of them.

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<v Speaker 5>They're trying to make the argument that the doctors are

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<v Speaker 5>so terrified by the new abortion laws in Georgia, for instance,

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<v Speaker 5>that they're afraid to go anywhere near a woman's reproductive parts.

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<v Speaker 5>But that is absolutely not the case in this case.

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<v Speaker 5>Shannon Bream, by the way, is painstakingly fair. She is

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<v Speaker 5>a paragon among quote unquote journalists these days, and I

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<v Speaker 5>thought she was very fair in that interview too.

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<v Speaker 1>But I know you agree, So that's why I'm saying it.

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<v Speaker 3>Clearly, it's true that if you had a whole bunch

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<v Speaker 3>of good examples of women dying because of restrictive abortion policies,

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<v Speaker 3>you would drop them out.

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<v Speaker 1>But you've got like three names you hammer over and

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<v Speaker 1>over again.

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<v Speaker 3>At least one of them and the other two were suspective,

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<v Speaker 3>but at least one of them is clearly bogus.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's another example of the Joe Getty axiom that

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<v Speaker 5>people don't offer terrible arguments or examples because they're keeping

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<v Speaker 5>their good ones fresh for the weekend. Now they offer

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<v Speaker 5>them because that's all they've got. It's a tragic story,

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<v Speaker 5>and you know it's worth mentioning that they've worked very,

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<v Speaker 5>very hard to make the so called abortion pill very

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<v Speaker 5>very easy to get with few limitations. There is a

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<v Speaker 5>surprisingly high rate of complications with that women in UH

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<v Speaker 5>I can't remember what I headed in front of me,

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<v Speaker 5>and I don't now forgive me, but it is a

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<v Speaker 5>high enough percentage of complications where women have to go

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<v Speaker 5>get emergency room care. That the idea of making it

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<v Speaker 5>effortless to get with no strings attached, and you just

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<v Speaker 5>read the warning label on the bottle, it's probably unwise,

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<v Speaker 5>even if you're in favor of it.

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<v Speaker 3>And on this topic, Tim Walls and his boss Kamala

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<v Speaker 3>Harris continue to go around. She'll probably say it on

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<v Speaker 3>Sixty Minutes tonight, She'll probably say it on Howard Stern Tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 3>she'll probably we say it on I think she's on

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<v Speaker 3>a Jimmy Fowler, Jimmy Kimmel this week. Kamala Harris will

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<v Speaker 3>probably continue to repeat that Donald Trump wants to sign

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<v Speaker 3>an abortion ban, even though Donald Trump has stated the opposite.

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<v Speaker 3>But anyway that came up yesterday, it should.

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<v Speaker 8>Be very clear Donald Trump's asking for a nation wide

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<v Speaker 8>abortion bank.

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<v Speaker 9>And again we don't see this that he will not

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<v Speaker 9>sign a national abortion ban. Are you calling that just

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<v Speaker 9>it's a flat out line.

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, of course, and Senator Vance has in the past

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<v Speaker 8>said so too. Now, look, they may see this as

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<v Speaker 8>an election issue. We see it as a right of

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<v Speaker 8>women to make their own bodily decisions. And that's what

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<v Speaker 8>the states like my state have the ability to put

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<v Speaker 8>that in states like Georgia force women to cross the border.

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<v Speaker 8>And then we have a death of Amber Thurmott. So

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<v Speaker 8>let's be very again.

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<v Speaker 3>So there you're going to so he just blows by

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<v Speaker 3>her saying but the candidates are saying the opposite of that.

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<v Speaker 3>He just blows by that as if that wasn't said,

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<v Speaker 3>and then goes back to ander Amber Thurman, who's the

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<v Speaker 3>woman in Georgia who died from complications, not the whole

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<v Speaker 3>abortion thing. So, as Britt Hume tweeted out yesterday, this

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<v Speaker 3>is objectively false. Both men Trump and Vance have said

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<v Speaker 3>they oppose an abortion ban. Trump said he would veto

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<v Speaker 3>the measure if it passed Congress.

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<v Speaker 1>He would veto his own Republican Congress. I mean, what

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<v Speaker 1>else do you get. He said it out loud, and

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<v Speaker 1>it would never get through the Senate anyway.

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<v Speaker 5>We are arguing dishonestly about something that will never happen.

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<v Speaker 1>This is America's politics. Yeah, that is.

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<v Speaker 3>That's shocking though, that they continue to go around stating

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<v Speaker 3>the opposite of what Vance and Trump are saying on

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<v Speaker 3>the campaign trail.

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<v Speaker 5>If I was one of the uber cynical political operatives

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<v Speaker 5>that run the show these days, I'd say, what do

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<v Speaker 5>you want him to run on?

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<v Speaker 1>Jack?

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<v Speaker 5>The economy, on immigration, on are great forward relations?

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<v Speaker 1>Now we're gonna run out of portion. It's all we got.

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<v Speaker 3>It is one of their most animating issues. Definitely, Kamala

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<v Speaker 3>Harrison sixty Minutes tonight will be something to watch, although

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<v Speaker 3>I don't trust sixty minutes to leave in anything that

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<v Speaker 3>would make her look bad.

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<v Speaker 5>And the current president's incoherent anyway. That's kind of your

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<v Speaker 5>wrap up for the day, Armstrong and Getty