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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Good Stuff.

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Speaker 2: I'm Jacob Schick and I'm joined by my co host

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Speaker 2: and wife, Ashley Shick.

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Speaker 3: Welcome everyone. We know that everyone has a story and

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Speaker 3: we can all gain something from other people's experience. We

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Speaker 3: want to tap into the perseverance and the tenacity that

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Speaker 2: And that's why we're here with you today, bring you

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Speaker 2: an amazing story that's going to give you inspiration and

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Speaker 2: it is you're possibly battling. We love doing stories like

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Speaker 2: this because we get to draw a light from it,

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Speaker 2: we use it in our own lives.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to the Good Stuff.

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Speaker 3: Our guest today is Chad Hennings, who flew forty five

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Speaker 3: successful missions with the Air Force bringing humanitarian aid to

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Speaker 3: Kurtis refugees fleeing their homes in northern Iraq in the

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Speaker 3: aftermath of the Gulf War. He was then promoted to

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Speaker 3: captain and twice awarded the Air Force Achievement Medal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah He's also authored three books. He is a three

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Speaker 2: time Super Bowl champion of the Dallas.

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Speaker 3: Cowboys, America's team that's.

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Speaker 2: Right, twenty seven years old. It's all he was as

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Speaker 2: a rookie. Crazy twenty seven. I mean, that's light years

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Speaker 2: regardless of the fact that he's an Air Force veteran.

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Speaker 1: I truly love this guy. I first bumped.

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Speaker 2: Into Chad when I was at Coppel High School in Coppel, Texas,

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Speaker 3: We are so excited to bring you our conversation with

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Speaker 3: Chad Hennings.

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Speaker 2: Was the camaraderie close from your Air Force service to

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Speaker 4: I tell you it was like going from one locker

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Speaker 4: room to another. Squadron, well duty, Honor Country, Mission orient

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Speaker 4: It same thing with the Cowboys. It was offense defense,

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Speaker 4: special teams, mission orient win super Bowls. It was two

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Speaker 4: bunch of alpha males in both and guys trying to

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Speaker 4: get after it. And when games are successful, training or

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Speaker 1: God, that's awesome here.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely.

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Speaker 4: I think men or men, guys or guys or guys

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Speaker 4: in high performing units or whatnot, that that cohesiveness, that fraternity,

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Speaker 4: that is free a corps for any organization to be

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Speaker 4: a success of it. And again company professional athletic team,

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Speaker 4: military unit, they have to have that. It's all about relationships,

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Speaker 4: the brotherhood. The brotherhood exactly right.

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Speaker 3: And clearly that led you to not just being a

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Speaker 3: rookie at age twenty seven with the Dallas Cowboys, but

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Speaker 3: the greatness you achieved while being a Dallas Cowboy, three

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Speaker 3: super Bowls and an iconic era of Dallas Cowboy football.

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Speaker 4: You know that was God's providence over that one. I've

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Speaker 4: never been around a group of guys that were more selfless,

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Speaker 4: more dedicated to their craft, wanting to win. Whatever it took,

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Speaker 4: We're gonna win.

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Speaker 2: I love you realize, and I'm sure completely accepted the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, graduation, We're so thrilled to have you here on

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Speaker 3: the good stuff. Chad Hennings, air Force pilot, three times

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Speaker 3: because I know you've known each other.

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Speaker 4: Why, I lived in Copel for a number of years,

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Speaker 4: so we may have run into each other when you

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Speaker 2: And I do remember when you guys are still practicing

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Speaker 2: I remember one day it started.

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Speaker 4: Pouring rain and we practiced over the yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And so coach comes in and he's like, all right, jents,

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Speaker 1: Got the Dallas Cowboys coming. They need to use the

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Speaker 2: And I remember thinking, like, I love you guys, but

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Speaker 2: And I remember us walking out, walking out, y'all are

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Speaker 3: Wow, just because like it was Texas football.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like freaking cowboys, can't get wet.

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Speaker 1: We're cowboys too, that's right, Coppell Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: I'll never forget that Texas football and Texas high school football,

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you, we were ready to fight, and knowing

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Speaker 4: Groundwork for eventually what the man that you became take

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Speaker 3: Football is huge in our family for generations, cheerleading football,

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Speaker 3: because it's such a great sport. It's such a great game,

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Speaker 3: and it lends back to what you talked about the brotherhood.

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Speaker 3: You've been rewarded for living a life of dedication, focus,

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Speaker 3: hard work. You've flown a ten fighter planes, You've won

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Speaker 3: you credit above all else with making you the man

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Speaker 3: Chase was battling some terrifying health issues.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. For me, that was the first thing in my

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Speaker 1: Completely believe it, by the way, And then I remember

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Speaker 4: White broke it the next year. I think he had

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Speaker 4: two and a half sacks. But for a period of time,

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Speaker 1: And most people will never ever be able to get.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. Former teammate of mine from the Air Force

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Speaker 4: Academy was part of the four ship that did the

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Speaker 4: I mean, it was at the peak of life for

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Speaker 4: us at the game. Yeah, my whole family, mom, dad, brothers, sisters, aunts, uncles, cousins,

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Speaker 4: from a life standpoint, making more money than ever thought

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Speaker 3: It was cowboy fans. Did they travel? Did they show

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Speaker 4: They always showed up. Cow fans are They're awesome, They're

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Speaker 3: You played with some iconic.

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Speaker 4: On that one, you know the trip. It was Troy Emmett,

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Speaker 4: We had a lot of fun in the locker room.

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Speaker 3: Awesome. What was it like in the locker room that day.

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Speaker 4: It was like being a fighter pilot. And I'll describe

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Speaker 4: And that was the same as the Cowboys. When we

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Speaker 4: We win the game before they know. The initial gun

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Speaker 2: If you won the mental battle before the first whistle,

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Speaker 4: That's it.

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Speaker 2: You have to have that arrogance. And it's not so

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. If you don't have an error about

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Speaker 3: I've earned the right.

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Speaker 1: I've put in the work to be here and that

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Speaker 2: We know we're the best. How do you come away

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Speaker 4: If you constantly thought abouts I'm thinking it as a

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Speaker 4: What if physiast? What if all these things are there?

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Speaker 4: You never accomplish your mission. You have to concentrate always

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Speaker 4: We had been two weeks into our vacation time. We

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Speaker 3: But you are the man that you are today.

435
00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:31,000
Speaker 4: Because of that struggle and the struggle as we all know,

436
00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,400
Speaker 4: I've learned more through my pain and through my suffering

437
00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,320
Speaker 4: and obstacles in life. Than I did through any Super

438
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,760
Speaker 4: Bowl victory. That was what defined me and for my

439
00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,560
Speaker 4: son and myself, that helped define our relationship going forward.

440
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,479
Speaker 4: It's made him the man that he is today. But

441
00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 4: that's where as parents now, and as i'll give philosophical here,

442
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,320
Speaker 4: we do our kids at disservice by denying them the

443
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:56,680
Speaker 4: ability to struggle, the ability to go through life to

444
00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 4: figure it out.

445
00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:01,160
Speaker 2: You learn your lessons in the valleys, not on the peaks.

446
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:03,880
Speaker 2: The view from the top is great, but you knew

447
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 2: that It's all about what did you learned during the climb.

448
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,399
Speaker 2: And that's something that I think we can all relate

449
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,400
Speaker 2: to you. We all know that you're gonna get knocked down,

450
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 2: it's a guarantee. And for you to be able to

451
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:23,439
Speaker 2: at that time having this epic high and then looking

452
00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:30,159
Speaker 2: at Chase and feeling one d per helpless, it is

453
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 2: something for people like us it is very foreign. You know,

454
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,440
Speaker 2: after I got hit, I never did me Why God,

455
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 2: I didn't do that. I was grateful, in fact that

456
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 2: it was me and not my fellow Marines, better me

457
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 2: than my marines. But I was pissed that I lived

458
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 2: because I went from being one of as you all know,

459
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 2: one of the world's most elite gladiators to good news

460
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:03,159
Speaker 2: a bathroom on my own and literally a millisecond that

461
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:08,639
Speaker 2: started my journey of helplessness and having to succumb to

462
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 2: my pride and lay down my weapons and go, Okay,

463
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be able to win this one on

464
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 2: my own, like I'm gonna need help for everything. And

465
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 2: I can only imagine as a father now, and literally

466
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,400
Speaker 2: when I say that, I mean it, I can only

467
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 2: imagine and not even well. And I know Chase and

468
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,880
Speaker 2: love you guys and love your family, and to know

469
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:34,439
Speaker 2: what you guys went through, I can only imagine that feeling.

470
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,879
Speaker 2: But the one thing that is all relatable to us

471
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:42,159
Speaker 2: I've learned in my journey thus far is pain and

472
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,880
Speaker 2: suffering sucks. Yeah, and we're not built to do it alone.

473
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 2: There's times in life where your grit is gonna be

474
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 2: equally as tested, if not more so, as your grace.

475
00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 3: You also had to embrace the vulnerability of talking about it,

476
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 3: of building that community around you, because you couldn't do

477
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 3: it alone.

478
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 4: You know. And that was why I was so got

479
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 4: into a lot of the guys coming back from down

480
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 4: range that coming back with post traumatic stress. We all

481
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:18,119
Speaker 4: as young men bought off on that lie that to

482
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 4: be a man, you had to show that you weren't vulnerable,

483
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,880
Speaker 4: that you can never show any vulnerability, that you had

484
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 4: to have it all together at all times. And that's

485
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 4: the antithesis of it, particularly for our guys today, because

486
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 4: you're constantly engaged in that fight or flight. Whereas conflicts

487
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 4: in the past, yeah, you may have a period of time,

488
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 4: but then you had a reprieve. I can miss imagine,

489
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 4: you know, the Peloponnesian War back in the Greek times,

490
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:42,959
Speaker 4: that guys would go through a major battle and they

491
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 4: sit around the campfire and they talk out. Man, did

492
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,120
Speaker 4: you see that dude I hit today? Man, his head

493
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 4: just lopped up, you know. Yeah, but they're able to

494
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 4: process and talk through that.

495
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 2: Or the Spartans, it was mandatory that they wurn their losses. Yeah,

496
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 2: for an hour after every major battle. And we've regressed

497
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 2: tremendously as warriors, modern day warriors and gladiators. And it's like, man,

498
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 2: where did we go wrong? Where did that start? Because

499
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,879
Speaker 2: just like you said, it's a lie, and not only

500
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 2: to the warrior class, but to me the humankind where

501
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,440
Speaker 2: I grew up where I actually grew up. Bad things

502
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 2: happen and it's like, hey, you be okay, you're good.

503
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 2: Let's keep on moving. We'll not talk about it. You'll

504
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:23,120
Speaker 2: be fine, just keep going. It's like, Nope, that's not suppressing.

505
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 2: And at some point that pressure cooker is going to

506
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 2: go off right.

507
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 3: And it just keeps building and building. But you realized

508
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,119
Speaker 3: you needed support around you, and you also knew that

509
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 3: other people need support too. So what did you do?

510
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 4: Amen started a men's ministry group called Wingman because I

511
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 4: thought about these experiences that I had in life. Every

512
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 4: time that I would fly a mission, whether it be

513
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 4: a training missionor mission in combat, I never went solo.

514
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 4: You guys, never went out ever solo. Even with the

515
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,119
Speaker 4: sniper team. You always had a spot or you always

516
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 4: had somebody with you all the time.

517
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,440
Speaker 1: Always have a shadow to check.

518
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,160
Speaker 4: Your six and we always talk about check your six

519
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 4: because as people, you can't see back one behind you.

520
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 4: That's why you need those relationships the success. For me

521
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:09,439
Speaker 4: to have a successful mission come back and land, I

522
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 4: needed to take care of my wingmen. My wingmen needed

523
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 4: to take care of me, and if we didn't the

524
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 4: likelihood of something bad happening to us goes way up,

525
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 4: and the likehood of us actually accomplishing the mission goes

526
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 4: way down.

527
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 3: So how is Chase today?

528
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 4: Chase is doing great. Bought us first house last year.

529
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 4: He's dating a nice young Lady's got a phenomenal job.

530
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 4: He's doing really well. Physically. He has had his limitations.

531
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 4: He gets around a wheelchair. He had a lot of

532
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 4: arthritic damage done to his joints in some of the

533
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 4: connective soft tissue.

534
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 1: But his attitude palpable.

535
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 4: I love that young man. And the fact that I've

536
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 4: been around is some extreme, strong minded, high performers in

537
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 4: all aspects, but they pale in comparison to him for

538
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 4: what he went through and his effort, his mentality. He

539
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 4: gets up and every day it's a choice. I may

540
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 4: not feel well, but man, I'm gonna go out and

541
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 4: make it a great day. And I ask, that's what

542
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 4: life's about. As if I had anything to do with

543
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 4: that as a father, you know, but you did was

544
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 4: just what God's sustained him. And he has become a

545
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 4: phenomenal young man and I couldn't be more proud of

546
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 4: who he has become as man. And for me, that's

547
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 4: my legacy. I could care less about the Super Bowls

548
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 4: or air Force status or my legacy was gonna outlast me.

549
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 4: Is him, He and my daughter and venture their grandkids,

550
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,919
Speaker 4: and that, to me, that's what life's about. Relationships.

551
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 3: That's beautiful. And it's clear you're not only proud of

552
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 3: him as a father, but he inspires you every day.

553
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,439
Speaker 3: That's amazing. What better legacy could you have? So, having

554
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 3: gone through this, how do you define strength?

555
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 1: Now?

556
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 4: It's the ability to be able to when you face adversity,

557
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 4: to face it and to continue to plod forward and

558
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 4: to move forward. To me, that strength, that's courage. Having

559
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 4: the fear, having the potential anxiety of knowing what's going

560
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 4: to happen, but still willing to face it and to

561
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 4: go forward. That's true strength. Every day, every day.

562
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 3: Preachy much what Jake was doing a speaking engagement one

563
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 3: time and EMMTT Smith was sitting on the side and

564
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 3: he kept going preach Jake like all times, like loud

565
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 3: as hell.

566
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 4: That's awesome.

567
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: I looked at him. I almost gave him like to

568
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 1: come on, man, trying to talk. I have a very

569
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,400
Speaker 1: limited time. Man.

570
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 2: So do you find yourself using the lessons in your

571
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 2: day to day life. Now you're jat Inning is the husband, father, businessman,

572
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 2: leader in your community, I mean your leader in every

573
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 2: fast in your life. And do you use the lessons

574
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 2: that you've learned through these trying times? Do you think

575
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 2: on a day to day basis?

576
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 4: Every day? Every day? You know? And that's one of

577
00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 4: the things I took this course. Make your very sponsorous

578
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 4: for brain health doctor Sandy Chapman phenomenal, very familiar. Yeah, yeah,

579
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 4: I love said. But you know what I took from

580
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 4: her book and going through that was that people talk

581
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 4: about intelligence wrote memory, regurgitating content, information, but that's not it.

582
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 4: What true intelligence is is the ability to think integratively, innovatively, strategically.

583
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 4: So for me, it's the aspect of taking your experience

584
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 4: or someone else's experience and being able to apply and

585
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 4: apply that to my life. And that's where I take

586
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 4: the experiences from listening to you or another mentor or myself.

587
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 4: How can I apply that to me? And how can

588
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 4: I make that personal for me? And that's what I've

589
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 4: really strive for my life now is to take some

590
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 4: of these experiences because not everybody's going to get a

591
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 4: chance to fly a jet or play for the cowboys

592
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 4: or do those things. But when I'm talking about what

593
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 4: it boils down to it each and every one of us.

594
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 4: I go through the same routine which you can go

595
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 4: through to apply these lessons to your life. And that's

596
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 4: embrace the suck, Embrace the grind, celebrate the time, movements,

597
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 4: be with your family. All those things. They're universal truths.

598
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 4: And I don't care who you are what you do again,

599
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 4: what you do is not define who you are, but

600
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 4: that's those are lessons that can be applied to anybody

601
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 4: in any facet of your life.

602
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 1: Nor what's happened to you define who you are exactly.

603
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you do to relax or recharge?

604
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 4: Be around my family? You know? And that's the thing

605
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 4: that we are now empty nesters. So my wife and

606
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 4: I we make time too. We have a call it

607
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 4: coffee time and wine time. We have coffee in the morning,

608
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 4: we go through our day devotionally. All night, we come

609
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 4: home and maybe have a glass of wine and just

610
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 4: relax talk about the day. And for me that's peace

611
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 4: and how I also I work out. I love to

612
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 4: work out after that and I love to read books.

613
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 4: That's what recharges me and my aspect of self awareness

614
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 4: and self help. Is trying to expand my knowledge base

615
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 4: absolutely greatness.

616
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 2: Is there one person organization that's had a significant impact

617
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 2: on you in your life that you can think of?

618
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 4: The guys who have impacted me the most, particularly early

619
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 4: in my life for my coaches, yep. And I think

620
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 4: that's the most hallowed profession in our culture today as

621
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 4: being a coach.

622
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just this lifelong impact.

623
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 4: They changed the trajectory of my life. Yeah, because I

624
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 4: was a kid, you know, not highly recruited a small

625
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 4: rural community in Iowa for football, and I wanted to

626
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 4: play division on college football. My coach my junior senior

627
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 4: year that summer asked, Chad, what do you want to do? Coach,

628
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 4: I'd really like to go to the Air Force Academy.

629
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 4: Wasn't how they recruited to play at a football powerhouse school.

630
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 4: He took it upon himself to make a sixteen millimeters

631
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 4: highlight follow and me drove it nine hundred miles from

632
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 4: our hometown in Iowa to Colorado Springs, handed off to

633
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 4: the coaches there that recruited that area and says, you

634
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 4: need to take a look at this kid. That's how

635
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 4: I got there. Wow, probably changed the trajectory my life

636
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 4: with that question. Yeah, that's awesome.

637
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 3: One question we ask all of our guests on the

638
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 3: good stuff. What feeds your soul?

639
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 4: What feeds my soul is my relationship with my Lord Savior,

640
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 4: Jesus Christ Barnard and Blood by Pascal. That inside man

641
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 4: is a God size vacuum that only God can fill.

642
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 4: And I've tried to fill with so many other different

643
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 4: passions and pursuits of life, and it was always vacuous,

644
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 4: and it was always empty. But he is the one

645
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 4: that brings me a purpose, meaning and satisfaction in life.

646
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 2: Beautiful, well said brother. All Right, have one more question, Yeah,

647
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 2: and I'm asking it. So you've played with the Dallas

648
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 2: Cowboys for nine seasons, you have three Super Bowl championships

649
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 2: under your belt, and according to the stats, you have

650
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 2: exactly one NFL touchdown.

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Speaker 4: Explain it was against Arizona Cardinals. Out there, it was

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Speaker 4: it's like the twenty yard line. We did a run

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Speaker 4: blitz Darren and came through as a safety blitz. Just

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Speaker 4: nailed the running back in the Yeah, drop the ball

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Speaker 4: right in front of me, you know, I picked it

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Speaker 4: up and it was like a rolling ball of butcher knives. Man,

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Speaker 4: I did. I. I had to run about fifteen yards

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Speaker 4: to run into the end zone. This is what's funny,

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Speaker 4: and this is the impact of a coach. I get there,

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Speaker 4: and this is what's crazy. I remember what my high

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Speaker 4: school football coach, same guy that drove the film out

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Speaker 4: to the Air Force Academy, said, he goes, act like

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Speaker 4: you've been here before, sear. I ran up to the

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Speaker 4: referee and I handed in the football and I started

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Speaker 4: drawing back. But then I realized, Hey, in the NFL,

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Speaker 4: you can keep the footballs, I said, sir, Can I

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Speaker 4: have that? I'd like that was my only Touchdo I'll

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Speaker 4: probably have?

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Speaker 1: Can I have that?

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Speaker 4: I ran back, But that's that stuck with me forever

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Speaker 4: and has those important life lessons. Act like you've been

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Speaker 4: here before.

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Speaker 1: I do. I do remember it. And did you call

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Speaker 1: me a mentor?

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Speaker 2: Okay, I was just checking because Chad Hennings referred to

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Speaker 2: me as a mentor.

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Speaker 4: It's recorded anybody that you can learn something from in

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Speaker 4: life as a mentor.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, we have learned a lot today, and we're truly

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Speaker 3: grateful that you not only took the time to come

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Speaker 3: and do this, but to be vulnerable with us and

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Speaker 3: share with us your story, your highs and your lows,

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Speaker 3: and all of the lessons you've learned from it. Such

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Speaker 3: an incredible story and we're truly grateful.

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Speaker 2: Dude, nothing but love, respect, and admiration for you and

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Speaker 2: your family. You epitomize mentor and leader and victor, and

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Speaker 2: you do it with grace and humility, and you do

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Speaker 2: it beautifully.

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Speaker 1: Bro.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just your presence and existence is inspiring. So thanks

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Speaker 2: for the hope and the soul for brother. I literally

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Speaker 2: want to run through a brick.

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Speaker 3: Wall or climb a mountain.

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Speaker 1: Nope, I'll take the brick wall. So inspiring what this

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Speaker 1: does for my soul.

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Speaker 2: The best way I can describe it is on the

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Speaker 2: drive here. You know, I'm on the Struggle bus right now,

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Speaker 2: and I see these guys on this window washing mechanism

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Speaker 2: on this giant building in Dallas, smelling out hope with

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Speaker 2: white panels or something on the side of the building,

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Speaker 2: and it was like a godwink for me, like, hey,

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Speaker 2: you got it, You're good. And that's what I get

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Speaker 2: from this. This is the perspective and the mindset that

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Speaker 2: I needed today.

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Speaker 3: Right, And like Chad said, it's all about mindset that

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Speaker 3: no matter how prepared you are in life. You and

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Speaker 3: I we always try to prepare, make sure we've got

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Speaker 3: all of our tea's crossed and all of our eyes

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Speaker 3: dotted and all of our ducks in a row, because

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Speaker 3: we've lived and lead such a busy life, but life

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Speaker 3: still happens. And hearing Chad talk about everything that he

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Speaker 3: went through and he's got it all squared away and

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Speaker 3: then life happened. You know, was that life happening to

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Speaker 3: him or was that life happening for him? And it's

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Speaker 3: just so beautiful to hear mindset, perseverance, just keep going

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Speaker 3: no matter what. Dig deep, but you can get through

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Speaker 3: through this, you can get to the top of that peak.

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Speaker 4: That's right.

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Speaker 2: Act like you've been there before. I think that has

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Speaker 2: everything to do with mindset. Regardless of what the circumstances

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Speaker 2: is or what may arise. Don't overreact, don't underreact, just

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Speaker 2: act like you've been there before.

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Speaker 1: And I feel like that's what we all struggle with.

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Speaker 2: And because we have all these different things going on,

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Speaker 2: But if we're able to just act like we've been

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Speaker 2: there before, that's gonna put us completely present in the moment,

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Speaker 2: just like today where again I'm driving the struggle bus,

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Speaker 2: but I get in this conversation. I acted like I've

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Speaker 2: been here before, and it really the rest took care

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Speaker 2: of itself. So it is all about mindset and perseperience

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Speaker 2: and understanding.

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Speaker 1: It's not over. That's why I'll take the brick wall,

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Speaker 1: screw the mountains.

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Speaker 3: I'm so grateful to have this soul food today because

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Speaker 3: we need it. We all need it from time to time.

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Speaker 3: If you enjoyed this story with Chad Hennings, please feel

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Speaker 3: free to share this episode. And if you have a

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Speaker 3: story that you want Jake and I to tell here

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Speaker 3: on The Good Stuff, something that's fed your soul, something

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Speaker 3: that's encouraged you to go on, please reach.

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Speaker 4: Out to us.

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Speaker 2: The Good Stuff is executive produced by Ashley Schick, Jacob Schick,

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Speaker 2: and Jacob Shick. Produced by Nick Casselini and Ryan Counts.

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