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Speaker 2: I'm a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,

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Speaker 2: I want to be happy. You want to be happy

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Speaker 3: Is that woo woof?

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Speaker 2: And Dan and Tie.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to the solid rebel boys and girls. My

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Speaker 3: name is Ty hilde Brandt. That fine gentleman over there,

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Speaker 3: the one, the only, still, the incomparable Dan Rubinstein, sir,

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Speaker 3: how is your cold bath this morning?

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Speaker 2: Is that a thing that you do is good? I

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Speaker 2: the cold plunge. I have no idea if I'm going

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Speaker 2: We do have a lot of news stuff to get to,

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Speaker 2: some pretty pretty awful and sad, and some you know,

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Speaker 2: Ty always a joy to be here with you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we will do our best here to balance it

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Speaker 3: all out. We do have some heavy stuff to get into.

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Speaker 3: We will do that momentarily. This episode, all of our

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Speaker 3: all right, Dan. With that being said, yes, I'm not

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Speaker 3: the world of college football. Mike Leach. Beloved coach Mike

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Speaker 3: Congratulations he wins the Heisman Trophy. Not a great surprise

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Speaker 2: Dan, that's a lot of a lot to digest that

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Speaker 2: settle down, set I'm not a proud swinger. I'm deeply

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Speaker 2: I'm into it, Ty, I just I am. And I

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Speaker 1: Well, we told you today's flight would be special.

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Speaker 3: Here is the way this is gonna work, Dan. Every

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Speaker 3: This is a confidence pool, though. Explain a confidence pool

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Speaker 3: works like this. There are forty three bowl games if

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Speaker 3: The way this works is you pick straight winners, go

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Speaker 4: Theme Welcome to con Air.

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Speaker 3: So that is what we are doing on today's show, Dan.

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Speaker 3: Throughout the course of the next forty forty five minutes

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Speaker 2: The general plot of Conair is a number of convicts,

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Speaker 3: The confidence plane. Yeah. And there were some characters, of course,

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Speaker 2: So I always I love picking against the MAC. I

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Speaker 2: But I like picking against MAC teams come bullseason confidence

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Speaker 2: I'm into your team in the ability to win a game.

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Speaker 2: So there is context that matters that we're just not

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Speaker 2: Those are good rules. Those are good rules.

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Speaker 3: And as as is typical here.

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Speaker 2: On the show, you went a little bit deeper than

435
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Speaker 2: I'm about to. It's okay.

436
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Speaker 3: Stuff's big picture, your stuff is. So we're giving folks

437
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Speaker 3: a little bit of everything here, hopefully that can guide

438
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Speaker 3: their picks. I've talked about this rule for fifteen years.

439
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 3: The first rule here, it's the old East Coast Elliot rule.

440
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 3: I've been preaching at this altar for years now. He

441
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 3: sold me on it. I think it's the only way

442
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Speaker 3: to fly when it comes to confidence pools.

443
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,479
Speaker 2: Good reference to the only way to fly with con Air.

444
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,159
Speaker 2: It's intentional, but you nailed it.

445
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,959
Speaker 3: I am a pro after all, Repeat after me. Load

446
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Speaker 3: up your confidence points early early early ESPN dot Com. Ever,

447
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 3: every other side I've ever seen that offers a confidence

448
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 3: pool will by default rank the last games with the

449
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,880
Speaker 3: most points. So the National Championship, it'll put forty three

450
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 3: points on it. You don't even know who's going to

451
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,199
Speaker 3: play in that game, right, all right? Typically those are

452
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 3: the ones that people like to load up with the

453
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,879
Speaker 3: most points, because those are the teams that you know

454
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 3: and love and root for or root against.

455
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have the biggest fan bases in the biggest

456
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Speaker 2: platform during the.

457
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Speaker 3: Year, and so a lot of people, not just the

458
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,919
Speaker 3: default setting by any of these websites, but a lot

459
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 3: of people when they're picking these pools, they put the

460
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Speaker 3: most points on those games. I am saying, flip the script,

461
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 3: love it, flip the script. Those late games are often

462
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 3: the hardest to predict, and you get I think, bigger matchups,

463
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:48,360
Speaker 3: bigger mismatches in your matchups early, So.

464
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 2: Use that to your vantage.

465
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Speaker 3: Flip the script. Load up on your confidence points early.

466
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Speaker 3: Put more points on those early games now in the past.

467
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Speaker 2: So by the way, just if I can, yeah, jump

468
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Speaker 2: on top of that time really quick. Those are early

469
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 2: games that you're referencing. This market inefficiency, I suppose is

470
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 2: the correct term, right. A lot of them feature a

471
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 2: lot of duct tape bowl teams who are beat like

472
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Speaker 2: they got there, beating the one hundred and thirtieth EX

473
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Speaker 2: one and twenty sixth, the one hundred and nineteenth. Your acrons,

474
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 2: I'll due respect to Akron, your your Nevadas, whatever that

475
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 2: they're beating a number of teams to get Bawl eligible, which,

476
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 2: by the way, winning is better than losing get ball eligible.

477
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 2: That's great, that's an accomplishment. But also if they don't

478
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Speaker 2: have a win over the seventy third best team or

479
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 2: the forty eighth best team, or the ninety first best team,

480
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 2: via whatever metric you would like to choose. I know,

481
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 2: we look at SPP plus. That's a nice little indicator

482
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 2: in that early going in the it's not Guild in

483
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 2: New Mexico Bowl anymore, but in the New Mexico Bowl,

484
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 2: in the Independence Bowl, whatever, take a look at who

485
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Speaker 2: they actually beat to get Bowl eligible. And there's a

486
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Speaker 2: lot of those duct tape matchups, a lot a lot

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Speaker 2: of duct tape matchups. My final point on this, and

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Speaker 2: then I'll move on.

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Speaker 3: To rule two.

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Speaker 2: Please.

491
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Speaker 3: The rule for me used to be, I tell everybody

492
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 3: sight unseen whatever, the first like five to ten games

493
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 3: are just sight unseen. Pick who you think is going

494
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 3: to win, and then put the most points on those games.

495
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:13,959
Speaker 3: Be a little bit more discriminate, okay, Like yeah, like

496
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 3: just pick and choose. I would say your first four

497
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 3: or five games the ones that the most points should

498
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 3: be in the first week of bowl season doesn't have

499
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Speaker 3: to be the first day, like I said in the past,

500
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Speaker 3: because there are a couple here as I'll go through

501
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Speaker 3: that I had a hard time with. But first week

502
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 3: is where you want to I think, load up on

503
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Speaker 3: your points, don't save it all for the end. Okay, yep.

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00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 2: Also continue continue second.

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Speaker 3: Rule, and you alluded to this. You want to pick

506
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Speaker 3: the teams that care. Yeah, and this has always been

507
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Speaker 3: the key to confidence pools to bowl pools.

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Speaker 2: Really you think care?

509
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Speaker 4: Right?

510
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:52,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

511
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 3: I mean coaches who leave prior to bowl games have

512
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,199
Speaker 3: always played a factor. We've always had to consider that.

513
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 3: But there are more variables now, and you mentioned it.

514
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 3: You've got the opt outs, You've got transfers.

515
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:05,199
Speaker 2: It is not easy.

516
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 3: It is harder than ever to figure out truly which

517
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 3: teams give a damn. And so I have my own

518
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 3: little process here that I've invented to consider which teams

519
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 3: care to figure out which team's care by considering a

520
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 3: couple different factors.

521
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 2: First off, if a.

522
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 3: Team played like crap down the stretch, don't pick them.

523
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,360
Speaker 3: So like Oklahoma State, I'm not picking Oklahoma State. Oklahoma

524
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 3: State's playing Wisconsin. Wisconsin has also not had a great season,

525
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 3: obviously fired its coach, but Oklahoma State has looked terrible.

526
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 3: Their quarterback is also transferring, which I can talk about

527
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 3: here in a little bit. Yeah, they were one of

528
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 3: the pack it up packet in teams. Don't pick Oklahoma State.

529
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 3: So first and foremost, if you come across a team

530
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,400
Speaker 3: that played poorly down the stretch, don't pick them.

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Speaker 2: Great.

532
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 3: Secondly, maybe a team didn't play like crap, but if

533
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 3: they're about to be decimated with injuries, with opt outs,

534
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 3: with transfers, that means a lot of new faces. Like

535
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 3: you said, you got red shirts starting all of a

536
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 3: sudden getting snapped. A lot can go wrong in that scenario, Dan,

537
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 3: So maybe don't pick that team.

538
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 2: Right.

539
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 3: Texas is a good example. Texas is losing Jean Robinson

540
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 3: and Roshawn Johnson in addition to Demarvian overshown from the defense. Meanwhile,

541
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 3: you've got Washington and Michael Pennick junior who could have

542
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 3: left but didn't. And on top of it, said I'm

543
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 3: playing the bowl game, all right, good indication, maybe you

544
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 3: should take Washington. I'm going to be taking Washington.

545
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 2: Galvanizes the locker room, right. Pennick's coming back. You know

546
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 2: you have this surprise first year winning. They went ten

547
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:33,120
Speaker 2: and two.

548
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 3: Right, one two, ten and two. I don't have the sound,

549
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 3: but yeah, tend to a good season by any stretch.

550
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 3: For Kaalen de Bore absolutely next and then the third

551
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 3: and final factor. Again, consider them in this very specific order.

552
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 3: If a team lost its coach, consider picking against them.

553
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 3: Now I used to say pick against them sight unseen.

554
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 3: I have backed off that because I don't think it

555
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 3: means as much as I thought in the past. I

556
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 3: think it's less important than the last month of the season.

557
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 3: Let's look at the last month of the season. Let's

558
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 3: see who cares and who doesn't. But also can see

559
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 3: you have to consider if teams lost its coach. We

560
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 3: have seen teams do just fine with an interim, and

561
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 3: that's why I think I tend to look at this

562
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 3: last So like the Sincy Louisville game is very interesting

563
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 3: to me on a number of different levels. It's ridiculous

564
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,959
Speaker 3: because both teams lost coaches, but Louisville is getting crushed

565
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 3: in addition with opt outs with transfers and all that.

566
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 3: So I'm going to probably pick Cincinnati, but consider the

567
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 3: coach thing. Just not as much as maybe I have

568
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 3: in years past.

569
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Speaker 2: Do you know what I just did for you, ty please?

570
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 2: I came up with an acronym for your system. Oh,

571
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 2: it's the care acronym c oh period A, period R

572
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 2: period E. Cause that's it' that's your system, right, It's

573
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 2: who cares? Right is who is the one caring the most?

574
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 2: See for crap, don't pick them, don't pick them, don't

575
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 2: pick crap. Don't pick crap. A about to be a

576
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 2: new team decimated by opt outs, injuries and coach losses

577
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 2: are real scary picking interim coaches and e for end

578
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 2: of year finish.

579
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 3: Yeah that's pretty good, right, you didn't. You went a

580
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 3: little bit out of order, but you got all the

581
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 3: main components.

582
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 2: I literally went in the order that you went in.

583
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 2: Oh okay, I just was typing as you were talking.

584
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 2: I was a stenographer. You're very good at completely made

585
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 2: up system. You're very good at this, yeah, craft. So

586
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 2: that is my rule, the care rubric, if you will. Yeah,

587
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 2: is how I go about determining this. And I tried

588
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 2: to apply it as best I could. I'm sure I

589
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 2: missed a few, but Dan and I have picked all

590
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 2: of our games. We have put the confidence points on.

591
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 3: Each and we are going to do a zoom through.

592
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 3: We're going to try and highlight players that have opted out,

593
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 3: coaches that have left, key injuries, things that you need

594
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 3: to know. This is a developing story in that there

595
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 3: will be names that decide to opt out after we

596
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 3: record this. But we're doing this about as close to

597
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 3: December the sixteenth as we can, giving you all a

598
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 3: chance to listen to this, hopefully to guide your picks

599
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 3: in some way, shape or form correct. Shall we dive in,

600
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 3: Let's do it. We're gonna go quick. We're gonna go quick.

601
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 2: Let's zoom.

602
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,959
Speaker 3: The hometown lenders. Bahamas Bowl is the first one. They

603
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 3: play it on Friday, December the sixteenth, eleven thirty am.

604
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 3: It's an early spot on ESPN. It's Miami, Ohio. It

605
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 3: is uab uab is favored by eleven points for Miami.

606
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 3: Interesting scenario here. This is Miami, Ohio. By the way,

607
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 3: just for those of you playing along at home wondering

608
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 3: Miami what Bowl game? It's the other one up north.

609
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 3: Brett Gabbert he entered the portal and then opted to return,

610
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 3: So I don't know if he's playing, but he's back

611
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 3: he's not going to go in the portal after all.

612
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 3: UAB favored by eleven. I am all in on UAB here.

613
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 3: I think they're the better team, and true to form,

614
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 3: I am putting all of my points, not all my points,

615
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 3: but the most amount of points allowable, forty three points

616
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 3: on UAB. Right out of the shoot, you.

617
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 2: Think Trent Dilfer is going He's going to be in

618
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 2: the Bahamas.

619
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 3: I mean probably there will be a booth shot with

620
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 3: him wearing some sort of Hawaiian shirt.

621
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 2: Do you have in your notes how the cloud of

622
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 2: FTX and Sam Bankman freed hanging over the Bahamas is

623
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 2: going to affect the outcome of this game? They picked.

624
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 3: That's he's flying on cone Air over to the states Man. True,

625
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 3: he's on Connie's He's like on the front seat there.

626
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 2: I have UAB because I like picking against mac teams.

627
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 3: Right, Okay, so we agree.

628
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 2: We agree.

629
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 3: Also on Friday the sixteenth, the Deluthe Trading Cure Bowl

630
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 3: between UTSA and Troy, Troy favored by about one point.

631
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 3: They play this one in Orlando at three pm. Again

632
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 3: on Friday the sixteenth, Troy favor by one point. Dan,

633
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 3: mm hmm. This is one of those early games that

634
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 3: I was not confident in at all. I really like UTSA.

635
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 3: I also really like Troy in the defense, but I

636
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 3: tend to have more confidence in a guy like Big

637
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 3: Frank Harris and UTSA and where they've been over the

638
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 3: last two years or so. So I've got eight points

639
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 3: on UTSA I have.

640
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 2: I haven't given us specific numbers for all of these games,

641
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 2: but I am taking Troy. I'm going with the defense here.

642
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 2: UTSA just loses their offensive coordinator, so that falls under

643
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 2: your ker rubric Willstein to Oregon, and so I'm rolling

644
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 2: with the defense. I don't really count on the Troy

645
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 2: offense all that much, but here's what Troy does. Trojans

646
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 2: win games, and UTSA obviously as well. But yeah, I'm

647
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 2: going with my rubric here and rolling with.

648
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 3: The d Saturday, December the seventeenth, The Wasabi Fenway Bull.

649
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 3: You a fan of Wasabi?

650
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 2: I think this is a company named was Sabi, not

651
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 2: sponsored by the Spicy Route.

652
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 3: It is not sponsored by the Japanese horse Radish no right,

653
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 3: but this was Sabi is a cloud storage company for

654
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 3: those of you wondering. This game is between Cincinnati and Louisville.

655
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 3: They play it in Fenway Park eleven am, Saturday, December

656
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 3: the seventeenth. A couple things of note. Cincinnati lost Luke Fickel,

657
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 3: he went to Wisconsin. Also, they've got a tight end

658
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 3: and Trey Tucker who also opted out, so they won't

659
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 3: be playing. But on the Louisville side, and this is

660
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,479
Speaker 3: what I alluded to earlier, they lose Scott Saderfield, who's

661
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 3: going to Cincinnati. Not awkward at all. I'm sure Malik

662
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 3: Cunningham opt out. K Trell Clark, the cornerback, entered the draft.

663
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 3: He has opted out. Tyon Evans and Tyler Hudson running

664
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 3: back receiver also not expected to play for the Cardinals,

665
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 3: So I understand why this is a pick them. But

666
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 3: I'm going Cincinnati here. Nine confidence points, nine confidence points.

667
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 3: Not overly confident here, but I feel pretty good about Cincinnati.

668
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going Cincinnati here as well, both defense. I

669
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 2: know they're down their quarterback as well to injury their

670
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 2: starting quarterback, but I'm going with defense here. In a

671
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,760
Speaker 2: I think this is more of a Caer Rubric thing. Yeah,

672
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 2: that the number of players that Louisville is missing, obviously

673
00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 2: losing their head coach. Yeah, I'm going with Cincinnati. Even

674
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 2: though they lost their head coach, I still think there's

675
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 2: a little more seasoning there on defense. So yeah, give

676
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 2: me the Bearcats.

677
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 3: The Cricket Celebration Bowl between Jackson State and North Carolina Central.

678
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 3: They play this one at noon Mercedes Benz Stadium in Atlanta.

679
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 3: This one got me last year, if memory serves, I

680
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 3: remember going I think all in on Jackson State and

681
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 3: they lost yes in the bowl game. So now we've

682
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 3: got a scenario in which Deon Sanders has left. Where's

683
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 3: Jackson State at dan?

684
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 2: I have no idea. They probably have lost some players

685
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 2: that are following Deon Sanders. I assume Travis Hunter is

686
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 2: going to follow him. I obviously Deon Sanders' son, Deon

687
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 2: Sanders already said like, yeah, he's your new starting quarterback,

688
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 2: but he's gonna have to earn it. So I can't

689
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 2: imagine things are great in Jackson for Jackson State right now.

690
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 2: So I went back and forth. I'm going n C Central?

691
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 2: Why not are you? Yeah? Okay, yeah, why not?

692
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 3: I'm going Jackson State forty one points? Okay, I think

693
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 3: they're the better team. Who's playing who knows the SRS distribution?

694
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 3: Las Vegas Bowl. Got all that to mouth.

695
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 2: Yes, I do.

696
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 3: Florida against Oregon State. Oregon State favored by ten. They

697
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 3: play it in Vegas, hence the name of the Las

698
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:23,280
Speaker 3: Vegas Bowl. Two thirty pm Eastern Time on ABC SRS.

699
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 3: For those of you wondering, the fastest growing distributor of

700
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 3: building products in the United States, I didn't know that.

701
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 2: Oh good to know.

702
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 3: I love what these companies write about themselves on their website.

703
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 3: We can talk about that a little bit later on.

704
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 3: Trust me, some notables here on the Florida side, Anthony

705
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 3: Richardson gone going pro, opted out, Jack Miller the third

706
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 3: getting his first start for the Gators at quarterback, Osirus.

707
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 2: State transfer, I believe, Yeah, yeah, that's right.

708
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 3: Osirius Torrance and Ventrel Miller two big guns, right, Osiris

709
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 3: Torreans on the offensive line, Ventra Miller on defense. They

710
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 3: have declared for the drag if they're not playing. Justin

711
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 3: Shorter receiver has declared and opted out. Gervin Dexter, the

712
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 3: big defensive lineman, has declared for the draft. But it's

713
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 3: going to play. Oh good, he's gonna play. And on

714
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 3: the Oregon State side, you've got Damian Martinez, who is

715
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 3: returning from injury and expected to play. But no opt outs.

716
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 2: I'm running back.

717
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, at least not at time of recording. No coaching movement,

718
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 3: nothing like that. Oregon State favored by ten. I'm all

719
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 3: in an Oregon state here. I'm all in an Oregon state.

720
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 3: Thirty seven points for the Beaves.

721
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 2: I am completely in on Oregon State as well. I

722
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 2: think the defensive advantage that they're ascending in Florida doesn't

723
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 2: fit your caer rubric all that well because of the

724
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 2: opt outs, because of the motivation to be there. I think,

725
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 2: and here's a nice tie in term tie. He just

726
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 2: talked about Tyon Evans, but there's a tie in with

727
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 2: building services supplies, whatever you say, SRS. I think Oregon State,

728
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 2: and this is a tie into the Beavers as well.

729
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 2: I think they're laying the lumber here, tie. I think

730
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 2: they're going to lay the lumber on the gators in US. Yeah,

731
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 2: I'm going to be I'm a Beaver believer in this context.

732
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 3: The Jimmy Kimmel La Bowl presented by Stefel Steffel Sti

733
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 3: f El.

734
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 2: Okay, it's a global wealth.

735
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 3: Management and investment company kind of a letdown with a

736
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 3: name like Stefel.

737
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.

738
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 3: Bit of a letdown. We got Washington State, we got

739
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,919
Speaker 3: Fresno State. Fresno favored by three points here. They play

740
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 3: this one in Sofi Stadium three point thirty pm Eastern

741
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 3: Time again Saturday of the seventeenth. Wazoo lost their defensive

742
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:40,760
Speaker 3: coordinator to Asu, Brian Ward and wide receivers Donovan Ali,

743
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:48,439
Speaker 3: Jean Striblin, Trevion Brown, Francisco Maui GOA. I probably botched that.

744
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 2: That's OK.

745
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,879
Speaker 3: Guys entering the portal also Dayan Henley, their first team

746
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 3: All Pac twelve linebacker, and Renard Bell won't play in

747
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 3: this game. Will be down Cale Sanders, who entered the

748
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 3: portal the defensive back but otherwise intact played well one

749
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 3: the Mountain West down the stretch. They are favored by three.

750
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 3: I'm not overly confident in this one, but I do

751
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 3: like Fresno here. I like fourteen confidence points.

752
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,439
Speaker 2: I like Fresno a medium amount as well, just because

753
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 2: of what's returning on that offense. I don't love the

754
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 2: Fresno defense, but the fact that they finished strong. So

755
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 2: there's the e and your care end of year. So

756
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 2: they finished strong they win the Mountain West. I'm good

757
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 2: with Fresno here. If they were playing straight up in

758
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 2: the middle of the year, I'd probably take Wazoo. But

759
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 2: given the losses, especially Brian Ward, I think, and also

760
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 2: the element of Fresno having players looking to pop one

761
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 2: last time on a bigger stage than normal ahead of

762
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 2: the draft. Yes, I'm with the dogs here.

763
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 3: Lending Tree Bowl Rice versus Southern Miss. Southern Miss favored

764
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 3: by six and a half points. They play this one

765
00:39:55,840 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 3: Inmobile at Hancock Whitney Stadium, Whitney Stadium, excuse me. In

766
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 3: the evening on again, December the seventeenth, Rice waiting to

767
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,280
Speaker 3: hear what the status will be of Luke McCaffrey, who's

768
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 3: still playing and is a receiver for Rice. It's true

769
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 3: missed the last two games of the season, so we'll

770
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:16,879
Speaker 3: find out more on him as we get a little

771
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 3: bit closer. Also a bit of uncertainty about who's playing

772
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 3: quarterback for the Owls, with Wiley Green and TJ. McMahon

773
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 3: uncertain for the bowl game. I don't have a huge

774
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 3: opinion here one way or the other. I do believe

775
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 3: in looking at the numbers, that Southern Miss is the

776
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 3: better team. They're favored by a touchdown. Let's go Southern

777
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 3: Miss forty confidence points.

778
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going Southern Miss. A really good pass rush

779
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 2: and so I'm going with the defense. The Rice uncertainty

780
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 2: shouldn't class over the fact that Rice doesn't make bowl

781
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 2: games no, and they made a bowl game no. So

782
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 2: that is very very close. So in terms of motivation excitement,

783
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 2: it seems like it lies with the owls. But I'm

784
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 2: going with the defense in Southern Miss here.

785
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 3: The New Mexico Bowl that I don't believe is sponsored

786
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 3: by Guilden anymore.

787
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 2: Ah too bad.

788
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 3: SMU a one and a half point favorite against BYU

789
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 3: the Battle of the Acronyms here at University Stadium at

790
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 3: seven thirty pm Eastern time. SMU will be without Rashi Rice.

791
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 3: There's a big name wide out who is not going

792
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 3: to play due to a toe injury. But he had

793
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 3: thirteen hundred yards ten touchdowns. He's a big deal, big

794
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 3: deal to lose him. On the BYU side, we had

795
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 3: Jaren Hall who got hurt at the end of the

796
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 3: regular season. He's expected to play in this one. It's

797
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 3: important to note that his backup just for depth purposes,

798
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 3: Jacob Conover transferred, I believe to Arizona State. Oh okay,

799
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,919
Speaker 3: so Jaren Hall is nicked up and unable to play,

800
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 3: could be could be a problem here at quarterback for BYU.

801
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 3: Also there, linebacker Keenan Peeley entered the portal. He was

802
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 3: their second leading tackler. Sorry did you say key and

803
00:41:54,960 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 3: peel Keenan Peeley? Oh okay, Sorry, it hurt it incorrectly.

804
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 2: I'm going BYU here, and I hate that I am,

805
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 2: But the Rashi Rice thing scares me. B YU may

806
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 2: have the worst pass rush in America just by the

807
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 2: underlying numbers, and that's worries some. But the fact that

808
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 2: they struggled the way that they did, basically through the

809
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 2: meaty part of their schedule, but regathered themselves, which is

810
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 2: pretty rare to win like they did near the end

811
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,439
Speaker 2: of the year. They beat Boise, did they not? Yeah?

812
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 2: I think I'm going BYU here because SMU did not

813
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 2: feel the great defense themselves this year at times. I

814
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,720
Speaker 2: won't BYU here. I'm going I'm going with the Cougars

815
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 2: here because I think there is there there's a rebuy

816
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 2: in happening, a rebuy.

817
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:49,280
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go SMU fifteen confidence points not particularly high. Okay,

818
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 3: Frisco boy, you mentioned Boise Boise State.

819
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 4: I said, put the bunny back in the box. Like this.

820
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 3: Boise States a Cameron po team. To me, I feel

821
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 3: like I can trust him. I feel like I know

822
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 3: what I've got on that plane. Ten point favorite in

823
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 3: the Frisco Bowl over North Texas. North Texas just lost

824
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 3: their coach, which you know, say.

825
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 2: What you will.

826
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 3: Maybe it's like those of their coach. They got rid

827
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 3: of their well, they got rid of their coach's it's

828
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 3: gonna be a different coach, right, Yeah. Seth Latrell will

829
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 3: not be out there at Toyota Stadium in Frisco at

830
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 3: nine pm Eastern time again December the seventeenth.

831
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:28,320
Speaker 2: Boise.

832
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 3: I'm not sure what the deal is with Stephan Cobbs.

833
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 3: He missed the last two games due to injury. Maybe

834
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 3: he'll be back, maybe he won't. But even though Boise

835
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,760
Speaker 3: lost in the Mountain West Championship, they've played really, really

836
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 3: well down the stretch, and I just feel like them

837
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 3: playing against North Texas, even though the game's in Texas.

838
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 3: They've been riding a bit of a hot streak. I

839
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 3: feel very confident in the Broncos here, so give me

840
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 3: forty two confidence points on Boise.

841
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 2: I'm going Boise big as well for all the reasons

842
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 2: you laid out, and yeah the rebuying that happened after

843
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 2: like the first three weeks of the season. Even though

844
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 2: they lose the Mountain West Championship game, I still think

845
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 2: there's enough to like about Boise, and they get the

846
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 2: defensive advantage to me as well.

847
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 3: Let's continue the zoom through Monday, December nineteenth, Myrtle Beach

848
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 3: Bowl Marshall minus ten Yukon into a bowl game. Yes, sir,

849
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 3: that's a good story unto itself. They play this one

850
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 3: Brooks Stadium, Conway, South Carolina. That's Coastal's home stadium. Dan,

851
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 3: I'm a Marshall here with thirty six confidence points.

852
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 2: I'm on Marshall big as well because of the defense,

853
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 2: and I think there's buying as well, So I'm going

854
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 2: with Marshall here. I think they fit the care more

855
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 2: though Yukon feisty. I agree. I'm gonna roll with the defense.

856
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 3: The next day, December the twentieth, the famous idahop p

857
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 3: Tato Bowl Eastern Michigan versus San Jose State. San Jose

858
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 3: State favored by three and a half points. I didn't

859
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 3: really have a lean here, to be perfectly honest with you,

860
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 3: they play this one in boise on the spurf turf.

861
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 3: I've got ten confidence points on San Jose State. I

862
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:02,399
Speaker 3: feel like I know a little bit more about San

863
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 3: Jose State, even though I'm not supremely confident at all.

864
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 3: This could go either way.

865
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 2: To me, I am going with UH with San Jose State,

866
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 2: maybe a little bit more confident, just because I like

867
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 2: to pick against the mac.

868
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

869
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 3: Oh that's right.

870
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 2: Also, the Hawkins packout is a very good burger stand

871
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 2: in Boisettle if you're going to this game. Yeah.

872
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 3: The roof Claimed hot com Bowl is what they say

873
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,919
Speaker 3: in their website. We handle your roof replacement from start

874
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 3: to finish, something for you, as a new homeowner might

875
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 3: want to add to your rolodex.

876
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 2: That's true. You never know, have you had roofing issues

877
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 2: at all?

878
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:36,760
Speaker 3: Not yet?

879
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 2: Not yet, knock on wood.

880
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 3: I should probably not say this too loudly.

881
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:41,760
Speaker 2: Okay.

882
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 3: I could have done that move where you know, the

883
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,439
Speaker 3: roof guys come around after the big storm and offer

884
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 3: replace your room and charge it back to insurance. I

885
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 3: didn't do that I felt guilty about it because my

886
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 3: roof seemed okay, all right, everybody around me got a

887
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:54,919
Speaker 3: new roof.

888
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 2: We didn't damn okay.

889
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:58,760
Speaker 3: And I don't think solid. Wife Kate was too happy

890
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 3: that I decided to kind of stick to my scruples there.

891
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 2: But all right, your own personal cyrus the virus continue.

892
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 3: We've got Liberty, We've got Toledo. Toledo favored by five points.

893
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 3: They play this one in Boca Ratone. Hugh Freeze left

894
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,760
Speaker 3: for Auburn on the Liberty side. Also a mod Walker

895
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 3: and Dre Butler, both on defense, entered the portal. I

896
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 3: like Toledo. I like Toledo in the championship game a

897
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 3: couple weeks ago, and we talked about that. They won

898
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:33,240
Speaker 3: that game. They are favored by five here. I'm still

899
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 3: a little questionable when it comes to Toledo on offense,

900
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 3: but I do believe in this team a little bit

901
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 3: more than I should. So let's go Rockets. Toledo's sixteen

902
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 3: confidence points.

903
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, all of my reasons point to Toledo, except for

904
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 2: picking MAC teams. Let's go Liberty here.

905
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 3: Wow, you're really sticking to your guns that much. I

906
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 3: am the RNL carriers New Orleans Bowl Descember the twenty first,

907
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 3: Western Kentucky, South Alabama. South Alabama favored by seven and

908
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 3: a half points. They played this one the super Dome,

909
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 3: so it's a nice spot for both these teams. I've

910
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 3: said before that this is a matchup that I'm very

911
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 3: interested in.

912
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 1: That's William Bedford akaa Billy Bedlam.

913
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 3: I think this game could be fun as hell.

914
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 2: Definitely.

915
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 3: I think this game could be fun as hell. So

916
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 3: on the western side, we had Austin Reid the quarterback,

917
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 3: enter the portal. I believe we saw that he might

918
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 3: be headed to Louisville, though I haven't seen that confirmed,

919
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 3: which means that we're gonna have Darius Ocean or Caden

920
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 3: Veilt Kemp Vilt Comms starting a quarterback. They have a

921
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 3: combined sixteen passes this year for Western Kentucky. Also Joshua Simon.

922
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 3: They've got starting offensive linemen Ricky Stats and Gunner Britain

923
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 3: who are transferring as well, So a lot of turnover

924
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 3: on the western side. South Alabama's been pretty good. They

925
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:57,399
Speaker 3: play a good brand defense. Both teams are questionable when

926
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 3: it comes to offense on some level, at least in

927
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 3: terms of the sp plus. But I like South Alabama

928
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 3: and the defense more than anything in this matchup, and

929
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 3: I think they will be motivated. So I've got thirty

930
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:09,879
Speaker 3: eight on the Jags.

931
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 2: It's not right to look at one single data point

932
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 2: of a game to make a decision like this when

933
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 2: there are so many variables. But Jaguars South Alabama were

934
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 2: like a gusta wind away from beating UCLA. Were they

935
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 2: not correct?

936
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 3: Correct?

937
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 2: I'm going South Alabama for defense and for all the

938
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 2: changes ones that you mentioned Austin Reid here, So yeah,

939
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 2: give me the Jaguars to finish with an incredibly impressive season. Yeah.

940
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 3: And to be clear, when I say questionable on offense,

941
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 3: Western Kentucky was fine on offense throughout the course of

942
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 3: the year, but losing the quarterback, that's totally That's where

943
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 3: the question marks I think come into play. So I

944
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:47,800
Speaker 3: am going to go South Alabama. Thursday twenty second Armed

945
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:52,800
Speaker 3: Forces Bowl. Baylor Air Force play this one at Fort Worth,

946
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 3: Aman G Carter Sadium or TCU plays. Baylor fired Ron

947
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 3: Roberts defensive coordinator. Also Devin Neil safety is transferring. But

948
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 3: they're favored by six and a half points. Here. This

949
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 3: is a game where I would not want to bet

950
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,879
Speaker 3: Baylor minus the points because of the way that air

951
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 3: Force plays football. They take the air out of the ball,

952
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 3: they run the crap out of the ball. I could

953
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 3: see this one actually being close. But I do believe

954
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 3: Baylor will prevail. I think Baylor is the better team.

955
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 3: I just wouldn't want to touch this one with respect

956
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 3: to the points, Brett, So let's go Bear's seventeen confidence points.

957
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 2: I kind of love air Force here, like medium high

958
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,760
Speaker 2: confidence like air Force. Really, I think it's a bad

959
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 2: matchup for Baylor. Why for the reasons you laid out,

960
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:40,879
Speaker 2: I mean defense and running the ball. I just don't.

961
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 2: I don't like Baylor's defense going up against air Force

962
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 2: on the ground and the way Baylor has struggled at

963
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 2: times to be creative and be downfield this year on offense.

964
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 2: With air Force's very specific strengths on defense, I'm going

965
00:49:56,640 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 2: falcons here. I don't trust Baylor. Do you really trust

966
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 2: Baylor to win win a game against a good team?

967
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,760
Speaker 3: I don't. And the other thing that I would add

968
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 3: is that air Force is pretty good on defense.

969
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 2: No, no, they're full on good on very good. They

970
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 2: lost their defensive coordinator before the year and they continued it,

971
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 2: and I there's something that's been very consistently good. Now,

972
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 2: they're not going to generate the big plays, but they

973
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,839
Speaker 2: don't try to do that. On offense. They have a

974
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 2: top ten sp plus defense. They prevent big plays, they're

975
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 2: they're efficient against regular plays. Whatever.

976
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 3: So hold on, whooo is they tackle super well? Is

977
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 3: air Force one of your Cyrus the Virus upset teams?

978
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 2: Absolutely?

979
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 5: Is Cyrus Christom aka Cyrus the Virus.

980
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 2: And how do you not roll with a team named

981
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 2: air Force when we're doing a con air preview. That's

982
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 2: not a bad You're going against the spirit of our game.

983
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 3: I am, I am. I'm gonna stick with Baylor. I'm

984
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 3: gonna stick to my guns.

985
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 2: Ago bails agree.

986
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:58,240
Speaker 3: The Radiance Technologies Independence Bowl DAN website's very vague about

987
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 3: about what they do. Quote, we provide intelligence analysis and

988
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 3: war fighters support to the intelligence community, Department of Defense,

989
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:13,760
Speaker 3: and we enable effective military operations to protect our troops

990
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 3: from harm. Oh okay, whatever that means very vagistics. Yeah,

991
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 3: they're involved in some stuff, let's put it that way. Absolutely,

992
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 3: it's Louisiana, It's Houston. Houston favored by six and a

993
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 3: half points. Louisiana there without their quarterback for most of

994
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 3: the season, be Wooldridge, who was hurt in mid November.

995
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 3: Chandler Field, who you may recalls the original starter of

996
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 3: the season. He is going to get the nod here.

997
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 3: He played the last two games on the Houston side.

998
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,839
Speaker 3: Nathaniel Dell declared for the draft, but will play any

999
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 3: bank whenever you've got that scenario. And there are a

1000
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 3: couple more here that we're going to talk about the

1001
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 3: star players who are going pro, but the side they're

1002
00:51:56,520 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 3: playing any way, that indicates effort, that indicates care belief.

1003
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 3: Give me Houston thirty nine points.

1004
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 2: I'm going to Houston. Maybe not that many, but medium high. Absolutely,

1005
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 2: I'm wing Houston as well.

1006
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 3: Union Home Mortgage Gaspareable, Wake Forest, Missouri. We've got Wake

1007
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,760
Speaker 3: favored by one point. They play this one in Tampa.

1008
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 3: On the Wake side, Christian Turner, the second leading rusher,

1009
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 3: is transferring. Also Gavin Holmes, the other Gavin Holmes defensive

1010
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 3: back transferring as well. For Missoo, they lose Dominica love

1011
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 3: It who is transferring. Also, three key defenders in Isaiah Maguire,

1012
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 3: DJ Coleman and Martes Manuel have opted out because they

1013
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 3: are going pro so in terms of teams that care.

1014
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 3: Even though there is turnover on the Missoo side, Maszoo

1015
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,720
Speaker 3: had to fight and scrape and claw to get into

1016
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 3: this bowl game at all. They beat Arkansas, I believe, yeah,

1017
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:55,319
Speaker 3: by speak of the season in order to get into

1018
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 3: this thing. So I think it means something to them

1019
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 3: that they got to this game. Wake Forest petered out

1020
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 3: a little bit down the stretch. I'm going Missoo eighteen

1021
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 3: to Miszoo as well. Yeah, I'm into Brady Cook. I'll

1022
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 3: say it one more time. I'm into Brady Cook. I

1023
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 3: Missoo's record was like fourteen seconds away from being very different,

1024
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 3: and so the fact that they finished the season the

1025
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,959
Speaker 3: way that they did against Arkansas, even losing the guys

1026
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,959
Speaker 3: they lost on defense, this was a more Havocy team

1027
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:24,879
Speaker 3: than they've been.

1028
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:26,240
Speaker 2: I'm going to Miszoo.

1029
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 3: All right, We've made it to Christmas Eve. We got

1030
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 3: to continue this zoom through Baby Place. We got to

1031
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 3: zoom through Hawaii Bowl. Middle Tennessee State, San Diego State.

1032
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 3: San Diego State favored by seven Dan Easy Posts. The

1033
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:43,280
Speaker 3: smarter shipping solution For those wondering, I'm on the Aztecs

1034
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 3: here nineteen confidence points.

1035
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 2: I'm on San Diego State as well. Middle Tennessee is

1036
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 2: a duct tape team exclusively beating cupcakes.

1037
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 3: Quick Lane Bowl on the day after Christmas. New Mexico

1038
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 3: State Bowling Green. Bowling Green, the Falcons, favored by two

1039
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 3: and a half points, plays one at Ford Field. I

1040
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 3: don't really have a lean. I'm going with the favorite

1041
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 3: eleven confidence points. Gimme Bowling Green, have fun. I pick

1042
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 3: against the Mac New Mexico State for me. Tuesday, December

1043
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 3: the twenty seventh, Georgia Southern three and a half points

1044
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 3: the Favorite, squaring off against Buffalo. They played this one

1045
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 3: at the Crampton Bowl in Montgomery, Alabama. Buffalo is going

1046
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:21,919
Speaker 3: to be without Ron Cook Junior and Alja Henderson. Both

1047
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:27,800
Speaker 3: guys did not play in the regular season finale. Georgia

1048
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 3: Southern for me, Georgia Southern.

1049
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 2: For me, give me Clay Elton and Georgia Southern. I

1050
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 2: pick against MAC teams.

1051
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 3: First Responder Bowl, Memphis minus seven squaring off against Utah State.

1052
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 3: They play this game in Dallas. I'm on Memphis twenty

1053
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 3: one confidence points.

1054
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 2: I'm on Memphis as well. Utah State strikes me as

1055
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 2: a duct tape team, So I'm will in Memphis. They

1056
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 2: don't have huge wins, but they were competitive against the

1057
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,800
Speaker 2: best teams that they faced, and that is not necessarily

1058
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 2: what you can say about Utah State. So I'm going

1059
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 2: in Memphis.

1060
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 3: Here tickets Smarter Birmingham Bowl. Coastal Carolina against East Carol.

1061
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 3: The Battle of the Carolina is. We've got the Pirates

1062
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 3: favored by ten and a half points. Dan okay. On

1063
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 3: the coastal side, there's been some turnover. In case you

1064
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 3: are unaware, Jamie Chadwell left for Liberty. They're starting center

1065
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 3: and a first team all Sun belter, and Willie Lampkin

1066
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 3: is in the portal. Jasiah Stewart, Manny Stokes, Zikwan Reeves

1067
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 3: are all transferring. In addition to now Grayson McCall, who

1068
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:29,720
Speaker 3: has announced as of yesterday today is the thirteenth excuse

1069
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 3: me that he is also entering the transfer portal. So

1070
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 3: a lot going on on the coastal side, not a

1071
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 3: lot of reason to really feel good about them. ECU

1072
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 3: does have a couple guys in the portal as well,

1073
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:44,320
Speaker 3: but I feel like in totality, just too much turnover

1074
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:46,760
Speaker 3: on the coastal side too much bet.

1075
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 1: That's William Bedford ak Billy Betham.

1076
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 2: Gonna go East Carolina, and I may have if Grace

1077
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 2: McCall was playing, just because the coastal defense is that bad.

1078
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 2: So I'm going to ECU because I think there's be

1079
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 2: able to light up the coastal secondary guaranteed rate boll

1080
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:07,880
Speaker 2: Wisconsin minus three against Oklahoma State. I'm twenty three points

1081
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 2: on Wisconsin despite the fact that there is a lot

1082
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:15,280
Speaker 2: of turnover, so listen to this thing. Wisconsin loses Graham Mertz,

1083
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 2: which means that Chase Wolf or Miles Burkett is going

1084
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 2: to get the start at quarterback. They're also going to

1085
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:25,720
Speaker 2: be without Joe Tipman their center, Keanu Benton, their defensive lineman,

1086
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 2: and Jay Shaw their cornerback. Nathan Herbig declared for the

1087
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 2: NFL Draft. They've got an interim coach and Jim Leonard

1088
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 2: who will stay on for the bowl.

1089
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 3: Game but won't be retained as the full time coach.

1090
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 3: A lot to consider on that side. Meanwhile, Oklahoma State

1091
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 3: played like crap down the stretch. As we eluded at

1092
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 3: the top of the show. They also are going to

1093
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 3: be without Spencer Sanders, who has entered the porter, which

1094
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 3: means Gunner Gundy or Garrett Wrangell under center. They're going

1095
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,840
Speaker 3: to lose their linebacker Mason Cobb. They're running back Dominic

1096
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 3: richardson their n Trace Ford in their safety Thomas Harper

1097
00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 3: the transfer.

1098
00:56:59,320 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 2: It's a lot.

1099
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:03,359
Speaker 3: Give me Wisconsin twenty three confidence points. This is going

1100
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 3: to be a terrible game to watch.

1101
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 2: With Wisconsin as well. It's just things don't seem great

1102
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 2: and still water at the moment.

1103
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 3: Military Bowl presented by Perroton, not Peloton. I'm I hear you, Perroton.

1104
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 3: Here is what their website says about them. Do the

1105
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 3: can't be done? Okay, do the can't be done?

1106
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 2: Yeah? English is optional. I understand.

1107
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 3: They drive missions of consequence, spanning the globe and extending

1108
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 3: to the farthest reaches of the galaxy.

1109
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 2: Dan, can I pick against them? Continue? It is UCF.

1110
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 3: It is Duke. Duke's favored by one. Dan no notables

1111
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 3: on the Duke's side. The UCF is going to be

1112
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 3: with without Mikey Keene there there saw that for a

1113
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 3: moment in time, backup slash starting quarterback. He entered the portal.

1114
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 3: I o'keef their top receiver, their top linebacker, Jeremiah Jean

1115
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 3: Baptiste is in the portal in addition to Devonte Brown,

1116
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 3: so a couple key contributors on the UCS side we're

1117
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 3: going to be out. And John Rice Plumbley has been

1118
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 3: dealing with a hammy and a shoulder throughout the last

1119
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 3: part of the season, so who knows his status. I

1120
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 3: presume he'll be healthy. But going up against a Duke

1121
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 3: team that gets to a bowl had a good eight

1122
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:25,919
Speaker 3: and four a season, give me the Blue Devils twenty

1123
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 3: four confidence points.

1124
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 2: I'm going with Duke here as well. And by the way,

1125
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 2: you mentioning mikey Keen entering the portal is just a

1126
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 2: reminder to me of how many quarterbacks are in the portal,

1127
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 2: that we're entering this sort of task rabbitization yea of

1128
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 2: quarterback play. We're like, look, I got a job, you

1129
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 2: have some abilities. How much is it going to cost us?

1130
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 2: I don't want to do it. So, mikey Keen, if

1131
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 2: you want to play quarterback for US, Louisville or cal

1132
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 2: Poly whatever, I'm in on Duke.

1133
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 3: Here, the AutoZone Liberty will getting the zone Dan please,

1134
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 3: and let's talk Kansas. Let's talk Arkansas. Arkansas favored by three.

1135
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 3: This is a Cyrus game.

1136
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 5: For name is Cyrus grissin.

1137
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 3: Gimme Kansas thirty three confidence points? What I'm going in

1138
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 3: on the Jayhawks? Baby? They care?

1139
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 2: You know they care.

1140
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 3: When was Kansas in a bowl game last It's been

1141
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 3: so long I don't even have it here on my sheet,

1142
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 3: So we know they care.

1143
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 2: The Arkansas.

1144
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 3: They look the dog's going nuts downstairs. Yeah, arkansaw maybe

1145
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 3: got itself together down the stretch. Okay, But defensive coordinator

1146
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 3: Baryotam leaves for UNLV. They're linebacker Drew Sanders, who was

1147
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 3: a first team All Secer. Their center Ricky Stromberg, whose

1148
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 3: first team All at SEC opted out. They're preparing for

1149
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 3: the NFL draft. Bumper Pool is also out the linebacker

1150
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 3: due to injury. Defensive back Miles Slusher and receivers Jayden

1151
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 3: Hazelwood as well as key Tron Jackson have entered the portal.

1152
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 3: So there is turnover on offense, there's turnover on defense,

1153
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 3: and they're playing against a team that und addedly cares

1154
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:03,959
Speaker 3: more about this bowl game getting the zone. Thirty three points?

1155
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 3: Give me the Jayhawks.

1156
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 2: How did Kansas finish the season out? I'm here to

1157
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 2: talk about the future. Well, I'm talking about Caring, right,

1158
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 2: and that isn't that the e It is the e

1159
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 2: Ian Caring is end of year finish. They lose six

1160
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 2: of their final seven, though they do beat Oklahoma State

1161
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 2: thirty seven to sixteen comfortably. So there's your pick against

1162
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 2: Oklahoma State there. But yeah, they lose by fifteen to

1163
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 2: Texas Tech. They lose by quick math here forty one

1164
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 2: to Texas and twenty to Kansas State. Obviously away from home,

1165
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 2: kind of a different team. I'm going with Arkansas as

1166
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 2: kJ Jefferson is there, I hate it, but I'm going

1167
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 2: kJ Jefferson.

1168
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 3: The Holiday Ball is your Oregon Ducks is North Carolina

1169
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 3: play it at Petco Park where the Pets go in

1170
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 3: San Diego.

1171
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 5: It is.

1172
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 3: An interesting matchup here, Oh, on a couple different levels.

1173
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 3: Kenny Dillingham left, the offensive coordinator for Oregon, left to

1174
01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 3: go to ASU. Justin Flow Dante Thornton are transferring on

1175
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 3: the Oregon side. Christian Gonzales declared for the NFL and

1176
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 3: opted out the cornerback. Yes, on the un they're arguably

1177
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 3: best defensive player. Yeah, the best defensive player. Neither one

1178
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 3: of these team is very good on defense. But I

1179
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 3: do think the UNC side is more problematic. Right, we

1180
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 3: had Phil Longo left the post of offensive coordinator for Wisconsin.

1181
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 3: He's taken that jobs. Josh Downs has opted out declared

1182
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 3: for the draft their best receiver. We have Keyshawn Silver,

1183
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 3: Tony Grimes, and Storm Duck. On the defensive side, speaking

1184
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 3: of good defenders that are entering the portal, they're all gone,

1185
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 3: not playing.

1186
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 2: I don't even know if they're good, but they're the

1187
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:46,920
Speaker 2: best defensive backs in North Carolina. Has yeah, Oregon favored

1188
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 2: by fourteen.

1189
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 3: I think for good measure, they're my cameras put the

1190
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 3: bunny back and I just trust him. I trust Oregon's offense.

1191
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 3: I trust Dan Lanning. Here, they're a fourteen point favorite.

1192
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 3: I think for good reas twenty nine confidence points in

1193
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 3: the Ducks.

1194
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 2: So okay, the only reason to pick against Oregon, or

1195
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 2: if you are going to pick against Oregon and you

1196
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 2: believe in North Carolina, you should pick against Oregon. More

1197
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 2: reasons to pick against Oregon. You've mentioned Christian Zalez. I

1198
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 2: haven't heard anything. I don't know the situation of Noah Sule.

1199
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 2: I anticipate he is going to enter the draft. I've

1200
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 2: noid if he's gonna opt out of this game. Same

1201
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 2: goes for Brandon Dorriles their best defensive lineman. No clue

1202
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 2: they've been decimated, but it's been a lot of backups

1203
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 2: in rotation guys, not a lot of star power that's

1204
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 2: been lost to the portal for Oregon. Is this the

1205
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 2: best quarterback matchup of bull season? It might be, Yeah,

1206
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 2: I'm going through I mean, the other one would be

1207
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 2: Stetson Bennett and c J. Stroud, I suppose. But in

1208
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 2: terms of pure excellence at quarterback, bo Nick's season and

1209
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 2: the majority of Drake May's season with no defense, isn't

1210
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 2: me should be a very, very fun shootout of a game.

1211
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 2: I'm going with Oregon here because I can at least

1212
01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 2: see how with additional time they're defense could get a

1213
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 2: couple of stops, considering the way that Drake May finish

1214
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 2: the season sort of up and down fashion as a freshman.

1215
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 2: So I'm going with Boon Nicks, who has already announced

1216
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 2: that he's playing in this game. So whether or not

1217
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 2: he's leaving for the draft I yet to be seen

1218
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 2: at the time we're recording this. But if that's part

1219
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 2: of your care thing, Oregon did not finish the season

1220
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:22,520
Speaker 2: in strong fashion, losing to Washington and Oregon State, but

1221
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 2: bon Knicks deciding to come back and still having the

1222
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:27,920
Speaker 2: firepower at running back, receiver and tight end and obviously

1223
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 2: offensive line that they do. A healthy bon Nicks is

1224
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 2: to me the best player in this game.

1225
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 3: You know, they may not have finished the season as

1226
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 3: strongly however, however, take a look at UNC. UNC not

1227
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:46,440
Speaker 3: only is losing a bunch in terms of defenders what

1228
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 3: remained of the defense, but also losing the best receiver.

1229
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 3: And also we talked about it at length throughout the

1230
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 3: course of the season, throughout the latter half of the season,

1231
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 3: throughout November. Hmm, seemed like teams figured out in North

1232
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 3: Carolina a little bit to some extent. So I take

1233
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 3: your point on Oregon, but it doesn't phaze me, especially

1234
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 3: since I think Caroline is in a worse spot there.

1235
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 3: It is Texas Bowl. We got Texas Tech, we got

1236
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 3: Old Miss, Old Miss favored by three and a half points, Dan,

1237
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:13,400
Speaker 3: I want Old Miss twenty six points.

1238
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 2: Look the way Old Miss finished the season, was it

1239
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 2: not one of our Atlanta Hall of Fame inductees. Lane

1240
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:22,120
Speaker 2: Kiffin's first twenty nine quarters wasn't a great back half

1241
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 2: after those twenty nine quarters, Texas Tech defense quietly pretty good,

1242
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 2: certainly improved over where they were last year with Tim

1243
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:30,919
Speaker 2: de Ruder. I'm going with Tech here.

1244
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 3: I don't hate it. I don't hate it. The Cyrus

1245
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 3: that's my chaos, Yeah, Cyrus christ A. Yeah, it's a

1246
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:37,919
Speaker 3: little bit of an upset game.

1247
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 2: Yep.

1248
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:40,680
Speaker 3: I don't hate it, but I'm gonna go old miss

1249
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:41,960
Speaker 3: I like him on the ground.

1250
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 2: Love it all right.

1251
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 3: Bad Boy Mower's pinstripe bowl new eras out bad Boy

1252
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:48,800
Speaker 3: mowers are, and it takes brains. It takes brawn to

1253
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 3: build a mower as ruggedly, simple to operate, easy to maintain,

1254
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 3: and provide the best value. That's bad Boy mowers. Dan.

1255
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 3: I saw bad Boy mower in the wild the other day.

1256
01:04:57,920 --> 01:04:59,919
Speaker 3: How'd it look with every other mower?

1257
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 2: Fair enough? I was gonna say you were sort of

1258
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:06,120
Speaker 2: flowery reading that copy there, but then you brought it

1259
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 2: back down to earth with saying it was a very

1260
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 2: average mower.

1261
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 3: Okay for Syracuse. Robert and I left four NC State

1262
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 3: from Minnesota. Tanner Morgan missed the last three games of

1263
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 3: the season due to injury. It's unclear if he's going

1264
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 3: to play in this one. Okay, we also have defenders

1265
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:26,480
Speaker 3: Braillen Oliver and safety Michael Dixon entrying the portal. Minnesota

1266
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 3: favored by seven and a half points. Speaking of finishing

1267
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:31,920
Speaker 3: the season with a bit of a whimper, there's Syracuse

1268
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 3: now started off great, got their qualification to get to

1269
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:38,960
Speaker 3: a bowl game, and then just sort of like cruised

1270
01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:42,840
Speaker 3: through the remaining seven weeks of the season. Minnesota, you know,

1271
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 3: I don't I don't trust in Minnesota at all. However,

1272
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:49,200
Speaker 3: I trust them in this game. I like their chances

1273
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 3: here in this game. Twenty five points.

1274
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 2: I think that's right. Syracuse. Games are fun because you

1275
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:57,440
Speaker 2: can look at the team Syracuse is playing and ask yourself,

1276
01:05:57,520 --> 01:06:00,920
Speaker 2: can they run the ball with any degree of comp evidence? Yes,

1277
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 2: I am taking them. And now Syracuse is without Tony White,

1278
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 2: their defensive Courtney, who I still think is really good.

1279
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 2: I just don't think they have, you know, a competent

1280
01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 2: defensive front to stop the run. And now again we

1281
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 2: were him. So Tony White gone, Syracuse being able to

1282
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 2: be run on that combination gimme Minnesota with a good

1283
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:17,720
Speaker 2: amount of confidence.

1284
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 4: Cheese It Bowl.

1285
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:21,800
Speaker 3: We got Florida State in this one, right, yes, Oklahoma

1286
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 3: Florida State at Florida State.

1287
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 4: Said put the bunny back.

1288
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 3: Another team with integrity that I trust going into bowl season.

1289
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:34,200
Speaker 3: They're favored by seven and a half points in this

1290
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 3: cheese At Bowl they played in Orlando. Oklahoma is without

1291
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:45,840
Speaker 3: starting tackles Anton Henderson, Juanya Morris, Jalen Redman, and running

1292
01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:48,919
Speaker 3: back Eric Gray. These are names that have opted out

1293
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:52,640
Speaker 3: to prepare for the draft. Also, Theowese, the receiver only

1294
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 3: had nineteen catches this year. But it's just a note

1295
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:58,760
Speaker 3: that he's entering the portal. Meanwhile, he's committed he's going

1296
01:06:58,760 --> 01:06:59,480
Speaker 3: to Miszoo. That's right.

1297
01:06:59,520 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1298
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:03,600
Speaker 3: While on the Florida State side, we have Jammy Robinson

1299
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:08,440
Speaker 3: and Jared Verse, two NFL prospects, who said, if it

1300
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 3: we're playing the cheese At Bowl. Oh yeah, If that

1301
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 3: doesn't signify effort and c are, I don't know what

1302
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 3: does Florida State thirty confidence points?

1303
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:19,680
Speaker 2: Cheese it or Goldfish? Where do you stand?

1304
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 3: Goldfish?

1305
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 2: I am a goldfish guy, yes, or goldfish guy? My

1306
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 2: goldfish guy. I'm going Florida State here. It's another similar question.

1307
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:29,160
Speaker 2: Can the team run? Yes, they have a very good

1308
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:31,440
Speaker 2: shot of beating Oklahoma. So I'm going with Trey Benson

1309
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:32,160
Speaker 2: and the Knoles.

1310
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:35,880
Speaker 3: Here, Valero almobole, Texas minus five and a half, Washington,

1311
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:38,560
Speaker 3: the Huskies coming in there at a mark of ten

1312
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:41,840
Speaker 3: and two. I am on Washington. I allude to this earlier.

1313
01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:44,360
Speaker 3: I don't have a high degree of confidence. I might

1314
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 3: bump this up right now, just thirteen confidence points because

1315
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:51,600
Speaker 3: Michael Pennix is the guy, right, Michael Pennix, he didn't

1316
01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:53,720
Speaker 3: have to come back, he is elected to, didn't have

1317
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 3: to play. He's going to do so anyway. So Michael

1318
01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 3: Pennis playing Washington, I think with a lot to play

1319
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:03,800
Speaker 3: for here. Meanwhile, Texas gonna be without Jean Robinson, Roshawn Johnson,

1320
01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:06,760
Speaker 3: Demarvi and over shown all those guys opting out of

1321
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:07,440
Speaker 3: the Alma Bowle.

1322
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 2: I am gonna go with Washington as well here. Even

1323
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 2: though I like Texas and the steps they took forward

1324
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 2: on defense, I think they're going to struggle just into

1325
01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:19,920
Speaker 2: sometimes on offense, sometimes on defense. I think Washington's is

1326
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 2: just gonna have more juice that fits under your care.

1327
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:24,120
Speaker 3: That's right.

1328
01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 2: I'm going with you, dub.

1329
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:28,200
Speaker 3: All right, December thirty, if we got Duke's Mayo Bowl

1330
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:32,880
Speaker 3: Maryland NC State. NC State is a one and a

1331
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:37,000
Speaker 3: half point dog. Listen to this crap. Okay, okay, listen,

1332
01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:41,320
Speaker 3: listen to this freaking game. We've got Maryland who will

1333
01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:45,760
Speaker 3: be without Jacob Copeland and Dante Dimas, two wide receivers.

1334
01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 3: Also Deontay Banks, the cornerback, declared for the draft and

1335
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:53,800
Speaker 3: opted out. We've got Ahmad McCullough entering the portal. He

1336
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:56,600
Speaker 3: had forty five tackles for the Terrapins this season. And

1337
01:08:56,600 --> 01:08:59,560
Speaker 3: then on the NC State side, it's unclear who's playing quarterback.

1338
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's not Devin Leary's.

1339
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:04,280
Speaker 3: Devin Leary, we know that, but it could be MJ. Morris,

1340
01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:07,519
Speaker 3: could be Ben Finley. We've got starting center Grant Gibson

1341
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:10,880
Speaker 3: out with injury. Tim Beck, who we mentioned earlier, left

1342
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:13,760
Speaker 3: his post as offensive coordinator. Pretty got the head coach

1343
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:16,680
Speaker 3: at Coastal, Kurt Roper, remember him. He's going to be

1344
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:19,400
Speaker 3: calling the plays so good in this game.

1345
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 2: So a bit of a bit of a Bedlam.

1346
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 1: That's William Bedford aka Billy Bendlam.

1347
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:25,639
Speaker 3: A little bit of Billy Bedlam here.

1348
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:28,680
Speaker 2: I think total toss up.

1349
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:31,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, think of on NC State twelve confidence points.

1350
01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:33,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm still I'm stilling on NC State because the

1351
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 2: best thing in this game, I still think is the

1352
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:38,200
Speaker 2: front on that defense. So I'm going with NC State.

1353
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:42,000
Speaker 3: Here, Tony the Tiger Sun Bowl Pitt They're back in

1354
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:45,000
Speaker 3: the sun Bowl. Of course, great things are not happy

1355
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 3: in Pitts and the sun Ball, but they're back. Necessarily,

1356
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:51,639
Speaker 3: Ucla also in the Sun Bowl. Play this one two pm,

1357
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 3: CBS sun Bowl Stadium, Friday, December the thirtieth. Uh, Elijah

1358
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:05,280
Speaker 3: can Sy in this game due to injury. Keaton Slovis transferred.

1359
01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:09,120
Speaker 3: He's in portal Gonzo. Nick Patty Nate Yarnell are going

1360
01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:12,519
Speaker 3: to be playing quarterback here against UCLA. I like Ucla

1361
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 3: a lot in this game.

1362
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:16,640
Speaker 2: I like Ucla a good deal. It's the final opportunity

1363
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:20,479
Speaker 2: for DTR too. Wow. NFL scouts Zach Charboney should be

1364
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:23,200
Speaker 2: pretty good. Even though Pitt's defense is pretty good, I

1365
01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:24,880
Speaker 2: just don't think it's going to be able to consistently

1366
01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 2: move the ball. So I'm going with UCLA here. Uh,

1367
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:31,000
Speaker 2: it's you said, Tony the Tiger, Tony the Tiger. Sunball

1368
01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:33,840
Speaker 2: Yet is frosted Flakes? Your number one frosted.

1369
01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 3: Cereal probably frosted mini weeds.

1370
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:37,599
Speaker 2: Would I'm right there with you. I have him right

1371
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:38,760
Speaker 2: there with you, all right?

1372
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:43,000
Speaker 3: Uh we agree? Tax Slayer Gator Bowl Notre Dame minus

1373
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:47,919
Speaker 3: two squaring off against South Carolina. Michael mayor Isaiah Foski

1374
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 3: opted out, declared for the draft through Pine transferring. Looks

1375
01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 3: like Tyler Buckner is going to get the nod.

1376
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:54,839
Speaker 2: I saw that he's been practicing right.

1377
01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:57,320
Speaker 3: Back from the dead. Yeah, so a little bit of

1378
01:10:57,360 --> 01:11:02,040
Speaker 3: Tyler Buckner, a little bit of Evangeli, but it will

1379
01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:05,639
Speaker 3: definitely be a different look at quarterback for the Irish.

1380
01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:09,000
Speaker 3: On the South Carolina side, Marcus sadder Field the offensive

1381
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:13,200
Speaker 3: coordinator excuse me left for since Nebraska not Cincinnati, too

1382
01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:17,719
Speaker 3: many coaches moving and shaken Jaheim Bell Austin Stagner at

1383
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:20,840
Speaker 3: tight end have transferred out. Spencer Rattler will play in

1384
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:24,000
Speaker 3: the bowl game. I'm on Notre Dame here. I like

1385
01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:27,320
Speaker 3: Notre Dame deal in this matchup. I think this could

1386
01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:32,000
Speaker 3: be a fun game. But I think they're better and

1387
01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 3: despite the fact that South Carolina really finished the season strong,

1388
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 3: I do think that Buckner coming back in perhaps with

1389
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:43,040
Speaker 3: a bit of a different game plan, they might open

1390
01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:44,680
Speaker 3: it up a little bit more because I think it

1391
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 3: gives them more through the passing game. I just think

1392
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 3: it might be a different look for Notre Dame. They

1393
01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:53,719
Speaker 3: still can run the ball, the offensive line is still intact.

1394
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:56,799
Speaker 3: It hurts the nut of Michael Mahyer, but I'm interested

1395
01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 3: to see if they can utilize some of those down

1396
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:02,240
Speaker 3: field weapons and playoff of the running game. They should

1397
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 3: be able to run against South Carolina, which is I

1398
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 3: think probably the biggest reason why I like him here.

1399
01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 2: Man South Carolina down both Jahim Bell and Marshaun Lloyd.

1400
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:13,120
Speaker 2: Who opted out or not opted out? Who is transferring

1401
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 2: right right? See transferring or opting out?

1402
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:16,280
Speaker 3: I believe transferring.

1403
01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:22,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's scary. But I also watched Notre Dames offense

1404
01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:24,640
Speaker 2: the first couple of weeks, and that's also scary in

1405
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:30,439
Speaker 2: its own way. I'm going South Carolina here, Notre Dame

1406
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:34,920
Speaker 2: offense without its literal only weapon. I like estimate. Is

1407
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:37,880
Speaker 2: that his name Audrick Estime? Yeah, he's good too, But

1408
01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:42,000
Speaker 2: without Michael Mayer. I'm going to South Carolina here. I

1409
01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:44,639
Speaker 2: don't know why. I just the way that they're playing

1410
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 2: for Shane Beemer, the way that they played in the

1411
01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:49,559
Speaker 2: Bowl last year against North Carolina in that upset, getting

1412
01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:52,960
Speaker 2: Mayo dumped on him. I'm in on South Carolina here,

1413
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:55,200
Speaker 2: and I'm not fully sure why. I'm just in on him.

1414
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:59,800
Speaker 3: The Barstool Sports Arizona Bowl, it's Ohio, It's Wyoming. Get

1415
01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:03,400
Speaker 3: of this for Wyoming. Wyoming's team that likes to run

1416
01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:09,559
Speaker 3: the ball. They're without Titus Swen and Joey Brash, two

1417
01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:11,920
Speaker 3: running backs who are transferring, so they're super thin there.

1418
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:17,040
Speaker 3: Dwayne McNeely and d Q James are going to miss

1419
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:19,599
Speaker 3: the game due to injury as well at running back.

1420
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 3: Their leading receiver Joshua Cobbs, their defensive end whose name

1421
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:27,720
Speaker 3: I cannot say, okay, and cornerbacks Keyante Glinton and Cam

1422
01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:30,400
Speaker 3: Stone are all transferring. They are going to be without

1423
01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 3: a lot of key contributors. Ohio, by the way, still

1424
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:36,240
Speaker 3: going to be without Curtis Rourke, who's out for the season. CJ.

1425
01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:38,559
Speaker 3: Harris is going to be the guy. So I'm not

1426
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:40,320
Speaker 3: going to play the sound again. A lot of bedlam

1427
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:42,240
Speaker 3: potential here for this game. I think it could be

1428
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:44,559
Speaker 3: borderline unwatchable. But I'm going to go Bobcats and I'm

1429
01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:48,240
Speaker 3: going to go thirty two confidence points because Wyoming has

1430
01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:50,160
Speaker 3: to deal with all sorts of issues at running back.

1431
01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:55,280
Speaker 2: Ah don't care. Ohio's in the mac give me, give

1432
01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:56,600
Speaker 2: me Wyoming and the Cowboys.

1433
01:13:57,280 --> 01:14:01,920
Speaker 3: That brings us to some of the new your six games. Yes,

1434
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:06,680
Speaker 3: Capitol One Orange Bowl Tennessee Clemson. Clemson favored by six

1435
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:09,479
Speaker 3: and a half points to play this one Hard Rocks

1436
01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:13,639
Speaker 3: Staium in Miami Gardens. Unclear if Jalen Hyde or Cedric

1437
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:15,400
Speaker 3: Tilman are going to play on the Tennessee side.

1438
01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:17,840
Speaker 2: Tilman's not playing. Tilman is not.

1439
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:21,840
Speaker 3: Playing, thank you. Clemson is going to be playing kid

1440
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:24,519
Speaker 3: Clubnick because DJU is in the portal. I don't know

1441
01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:27,599
Speaker 3: if that makes them any better or worse, but worth noting.

1442
01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:34,320
Speaker 3: I am on Clemson. Here twenty eight confidence points for

1443
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:39,479
Speaker 3: me on Clemson. I do not have confidence in a

1444
01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:43,680
Speaker 3: Tennessee team not being led by Hindon Hooker. So I

1445
01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:46,280
Speaker 3: think Tennessee's been the better team for most of the season.

1446
01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:49,000
Speaker 3: The fact that they have this injury now to their

1447
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:52,360
Speaker 3: best player on offense is very problematic to me. And

1448
01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:54,880
Speaker 3: I think Clemson will play hard because you've got the

1449
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:56,760
Speaker 3: new quarterback, You've got guys that I think are going

1450
01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:58,519
Speaker 3: to want to show out. I don't think Clemson feels

1451
01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:03,559
Speaker 3: good about the way the season ended. I'm on Clemson here.

1452
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:06,520
Speaker 3: I think they've got a lot to play for Tennessee.

1453
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:10,240
Speaker 2: When Rolling this year was my favorite show in college football.

1454
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:13,320
Speaker 2: When rolling, you look at some of the Kentucky game,

1455
01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:17,200
Speaker 2: in the Alabama game without Hendon Hooker and with this defense,

1456
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:21,479
Speaker 2: and the way the season ended, well think they destroyed Bandy.

1457
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:24,160
Speaker 2: I understand that I'm on Clemson here. I'm going club

1458
01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:24,960
Speaker 2: level and defense.

1459
01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:29,559
Speaker 3: New Year's Eve, We've got the trans Perfect Music City Bowl.

1460
01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:33,679
Speaker 3: This is absolutely a Billy Bedlam game. That's William Bedford

1461
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:38,800
Speaker 3: AKA absolutely listen to this crap. It's Iowa, it's Kentucky

1462
01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:44,520
Speaker 3: for Iowa. Spencer Petris is hurt. Alex Padilla is transferring,

1463
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:50,200
Speaker 3: which means the third stringer, Joey labis Labass zero pass attempts.

1464
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:55,400
Speaker 3: He's going to be your starter. Also, Keegan Johnson the receiver, transferring,

1465
01:15:55,880 --> 01:16:00,400
Speaker 3: Justin Jacobs the big linebacker transferring, Gavin Williams another another

1466
01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:04,360
Speaker 3: running back transferring. Out On the Kentucky side, they fired

1467
01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:08,320
Speaker 3: their offensive coordinator. Will Levis and Christopher Rodriguez have both

1468
01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:11,200
Speaker 3: declared for the NFL. And have opted out. Do not

1469
01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:12,120
Speaker 3: expect offense in.

1470
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:15,000
Speaker 2: This Liam Cohen back though, right coming back. I don't

1471
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:17,160
Speaker 2: know if he's going back for this game, but yeah,

1472
01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:19,760
Speaker 2: he spent some time with the Rams. Was like, I'm

1473
01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:20,679
Speaker 2: going back to college.

1474
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:27,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I guess Kentucky, I guess I don't. This

1475
01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:29,439
Speaker 3: is going to be a very low scoring game. It's

1476
01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:33,720
Speaker 3: going to be ugly. Hide your eyes. The best thing

1477
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:36,719
Speaker 3: I can say about this game is thankfully it's while

1478
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:40,360
Speaker 3: you're drinking and not after the hangover. I'm a say,

1479
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:42,639
Speaker 3: Kentucky three confidence points, no confidence.

1480
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:47,160
Speaker 2: I'm going Iowa defense. I'm going Spencer Petris wasn't very

1481
01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:49,639
Speaker 2: good this year. Alex Padia definitely wasn't very good this year.

1482
01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 2: You mentioned justin Jacob's transferring. He got hurt like second

1483
01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:54,720
Speaker 2: week of the year. He hasn't played this year, but

1484
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:56,920
Speaker 2: very good and Oregon fans I think have high hopes

1485
01:16:56,960 --> 01:16:59,639
Speaker 2: for him as somebody entering a linebacking core that needs

1486
01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:01,479
Speaker 2: a lot of help. Yes, what was Just give me

1487
01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:03,640
Speaker 2: the name one more time of the presumed third or

1488
01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:05,559
Speaker 2: fourth string or whoever's going to start at quarterback.

1489
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:09,719
Speaker 3: Joey Labas Labas.

1490
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:13,960
Speaker 2: Labbis Labis Labbis Labis. All I can tell you is

1491
01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:19,120
Speaker 2: somebody across this sport, probably at quarterback, is going to

1492
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 2: fall under the category of we had this guy the

1493
01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:25,880
Speaker 2: whole time, and he's way better than who we had playing.

1494
01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:29,920
Speaker 2: And I'm for whatever reason, there's something that strikes me

1495
01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:36,479
Speaker 2: about a random Iowa quarterback being pretty decent once in

1496
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:39,040
Speaker 2: this game, and I'm going with that. I'm going with the.

1497
01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:44,320
Speaker 3: Hotkeys, the Joey Labbis. Yeah, potential for a Lebottomy here.

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01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:48,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think there's gonna be labor.

1499
01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:51,679
Speaker 3: I don't know all stage Sugar Bowl, Alabama a three

1500
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:56,599
Speaker 3: point favorite against K State. I play this one the Superdome,

1501
01:17:56,680 --> 01:18:01,160
Speaker 3: New Orleans noon Eastern New Year's Eve. Al Alabama has

1502
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:04,639
Speaker 3: some names here, some names that we need to mention

1503
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:10,599
Speaker 3: Jojo Earl, Treyshawn Holden, the receivers. Also Javian Cohen, defensive

1504
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:13,479
Speaker 3: guard in the portal. I have not heard word on

1505
01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:16,120
Speaker 3: Bryce Young or Will Anderson. I can't imagine they're playing

1506
01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:19,759
Speaker 3: in this game. Right on the K State side, Malik

1507
01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:26,080
Speaker 3: Knowles and cornerback ekup Boy do or injured. Did I

1508
01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:26,679
Speaker 3: say that wrong?

1509
01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 2: I have no idea, but you said it slowly and

1510
01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:30,520
Speaker 2: very specifically.

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01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:33,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I could have been very quickly injured in the

1512
01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 3: Big twelve game, but it looks like they're going to

1513
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:37,360
Speaker 3: be playing in the ball game. I'm on k State here,

1514
01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:41,799
Speaker 3: I'm on K State too. Two confidence points, two confidence points. Yeah,

1515
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:44,160
Speaker 3: I don't put any any confidence points in these games.

1516
01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:48,519
Speaker 2: But Alabama away from home against a Kansas State team.

1517
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:52,719
Speaker 2: This is is this one of the biggest three five

1518
01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:54,800
Speaker 2: Kansas State games ever in the modern era.

1519
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:55,439
Speaker 3: Has to be.

1520
01:18:56,360 --> 01:18:59,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, a New Year six game against Alabama. Absolutely, give me,

1521
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:00,759
Speaker 2: give me here.

1522
01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:02,360
Speaker 3: Let me know how to say the cornerbacks name. I

1523
01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:06,840
Speaker 3: screwed that up. That's a Globe Tomato situation. But no, no,

1524
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:10,280
Speaker 3: you're my apologies. All right, two semifinal games here, we're

1525
01:19:10,280 --> 01:19:13,360
Speaker 3: coming down the stretch. We've only got six more games.

1526
01:19:13,439 --> 01:19:15,200
Speaker 2: Let's do all right, let's do it.

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01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:19,680
Speaker 3: Semifinal the Fiesta Ball. It's Michigan. It's TCU again. New

1528
01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:24,600
Speaker 3: Year's Eve, four pm ESPN. Blake Korum done for the

1529
01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:28,120
Speaker 3: season with a knee injury, but otherwise anybody who can

1530
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:31,519
Speaker 3: play will play. It's a semifinal. Yes, Michigan favored by

1531
01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:33,840
Speaker 3: seven points against TCU, So you're picking a winner here.

1532
01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:36,519
Speaker 3: You're not picking against the spread. We will obviously break

1533
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:38,840
Speaker 3: this game down a little bit more detail as we

1534
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:40,960
Speaker 3: get closer to it. But are you on Michigan or

1535
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:41,639
Speaker 3: you on TCU?

1536
01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:45,160
Speaker 2: Head says Michigan. Heart says TCU. I am going Michigan

1537
01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:50,519
Speaker 2: because of defense, and I don't love JJ McCarthy in

1538
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:53,439
Speaker 2: this spot, but I'm still going with Michigan here and

1539
01:19:53,680 --> 01:19:57,240
Speaker 2: Donovan Edwards being healthier with the defense, with the ability

1540
01:19:57,280 --> 01:19:59,360
Speaker 2: to adjust. We saw kind of close at halftime against

1541
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:02,639
Speaker 2: Purdue and then just second half, Michigan is too strong

1542
01:20:02,680 --> 01:20:02,880
Speaker 2: for me.

1543
01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:07,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, seven confidence points Michigan for me. Yep, I agree.

1544
01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:10,879
Speaker 3: Chick fil A Peach Bowl second semi final, it's Georgia

1545
01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:15,599
Speaker 3: minus six and a half. It is Ohio State second

1546
01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:19,679
Speaker 3: semi final match APM. On the Ohio State side, Jackson

1547
01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:23,200
Speaker 3: Smith and Jigman not gonna play, is done for the year. Also,

1548
01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:26,599
Speaker 3: the injury status is a bit uncertain for Trey Henderson

1549
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:29,400
Speaker 3: and my and Williams on the Ohio State side. Again,

1550
01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:31,800
Speaker 3: if they can play, they will. On the Georgia side,

1551
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:34,639
Speaker 3: Lad McConkie got hurt in that SEC title game, as

1552
01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:38,559
Speaker 3: did Warren McClendon, their offensive lineman so unclear on their

1553
01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:41,920
Speaker 3: status again for the playoff game. I'm one are.

1554
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:44,200
Speaker 2: Getting healthier at receiver though as well, they are getting healthy.

1555
01:20:44,880 --> 01:20:46,719
Speaker 3: I'm on Georgia here six confidence points.

1556
01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:49,400
Speaker 2: I'm on Georgia as well. We'll talk about this game

1557
01:20:49,439 --> 01:20:53,360
Speaker 2: more as we get closer to it. But Georgia is

1558
01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:56,720
Speaker 2: not unbeatable. But they're unbeatable if you don't have your

1559
01:20:56,760 --> 01:20:59,320
Speaker 2: act fully together by this point of the season. And

1560
01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:02,519
Speaker 2: I don't believe Ohio State to be a team given,

1561
01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:05,320
Speaker 2: you know, relative to their own talent and relative to

1562
01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:07,439
Speaker 2: their own expectations. I don't think they have their act

1563
01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:09,280
Speaker 2: fully together. So I'm going.

1564
01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:14,320
Speaker 3: Georgia Monday, January second, four games here to close this

1565
01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:18,519
Speaker 3: out in the relya Quest Bowl. It's Mississippi State and

1566
01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:23,920
Speaker 3: it's Illinois. So yeah, don't know if this game will happen.

1567
01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:26,519
Speaker 3: Don't know what you're here to talk about. It feels

1568
01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:28,760
Speaker 3: extremely weird to talk about. I do not know the

1569
01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:31,800
Speaker 3: status of this game. If this game goes off, if

1570
01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:37,720
Speaker 3: Zach Arnett does lead this team right against Illinois, we

1571
01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:40,080
Speaker 3: have to go to Mississippi State. We have to go

1572
01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:42,479
Speaker 3: Mississippi State. We have to root for Mississippi State here,

1573
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:46,920
Speaker 3: given all that they're going through the extenuity circumstances. It's

1574
01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:49,439
Speaker 3: a horrible spot for any coach, for any any group

1575
01:21:49,479 --> 01:21:51,720
Speaker 3: of players to be in. And that extends to the

1576
01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:57,760
Speaker 3: Illinois side as well, of course. But I'm just gonna

1577
01:21:57,800 --> 01:21:59,759
Speaker 3: root for Missippi State if this game happens.

1578
01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:03,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I imagine there will be some sort of internal

1579
01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:08,360
Speaker 2: vote and decision and conversation about playing in this game. Yeah,

1580
01:22:08,439 --> 01:22:11,200
Speaker 2: I'm just not gonna pick it. It just feels yeah, Yeah,

1581
01:22:11,200 --> 01:22:13,880
Speaker 2: I'm rooting for Mississippi State moving forward, given we will

1582
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:17,280
Speaker 2: rule in Mississippi State circumstances. But yeah, it feels odd

1583
01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:18,240
Speaker 2: and who knows.

1584
01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:21,720
Speaker 3: Cheez it Citrus Bole the second of two cheese It

1585
01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:25,679
Speaker 3: sponsored games. Yes, LSU minus eleven and a half against

1586
01:22:25,720 --> 01:22:32,000
Speaker 3: Purdue for LSU Kaishaan Boody coming back hey and will

1587
01:22:32,040 --> 01:22:36,160
Speaker 3: play in this game. The status of Jayden Daniels is

1588
01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:40,320
Speaker 3: unclear after his ankle injury in the SEC game, so

1589
01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:43,000
Speaker 3: we might see Garrett Usmeyer will find out. B j

1590
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:45,360
Speaker 3: Ojlauri is entering the NFL Draft.

1591
01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:47,559
Speaker 2: Smart on the LC Sorry.

1592
01:22:47,880 --> 01:22:51,919
Speaker 3: On the Purdue side, we obviously had a coaching change.

1593
01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:54,519
Speaker 3: Brian Brahm is the interim coach.

1594
01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:55,599
Speaker 2: That's true.

1595
01:22:55,640 --> 01:23:00,320
Speaker 3: There is another. I'm on LSU here I I am

1596
01:23:00,479 --> 01:23:01,400
Speaker 3: thirty five points.

1597
01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:02,920
Speaker 2: I'm on LSU as well.

1598
01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:08,400
Speaker 3: Goodyear Cotton Bowl Classic. We have USC, we have Tulane.

1599
01:23:09,880 --> 01:23:12,120
Speaker 3: I'm on USC thirty four confidence points.

1600
01:23:12,720 --> 01:23:16,800
Speaker 2: I am on Tulane because I don't know if Caleb Williams.

1601
01:23:17,240 --> 01:23:20,120
Speaker 5: Is Cyrus Grissom aka Cyrus.

1602
01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:21,400
Speaker 2: The Liners absolutely.

1603
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:22,080
Speaker 3: Wow.

1604
01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:26,720
Speaker 2: I just don't trust kaya Williams is hamstring, And I

1605
01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:30,960
Speaker 2: am ready for if Kayleb Williams does not play. This

1606
01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:34,000
Speaker 2: is just I have no information. If Kayleb Williams does

1607
01:23:34,040 --> 01:23:38,679
Speaker 2: not play, and Miller Moss looks incredible versus an American defense,

1608
01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:45,800
Speaker 2: American Conference defense, I am ready for someone me to

1609
01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:50,120
Speaker 2: have the take because if you're a true takesman, it

1610
01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:52,280
Speaker 2: takes person. If you will tell yeah, it takes me.

1611
01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:56,960
Speaker 2: It's so good to say this player's great. But are

1612
01:23:56,960 --> 01:24:00,000
Speaker 2: they even the best player in the blank.

1613
01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:01,559
Speaker 3: Up better than the starter? Yeah?

1614
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:01,960
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1615
01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:05,840
Speaker 2: Is Caleb Williams even the best player on his own team?

1616
01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:06,600
Speaker 3: Wow?

1617
01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:09,439
Speaker 2: That answer is yes. The answer is yes. The answer

1618
01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:12,919
Speaker 2: is for resounding yes. But if Miller Moss is randomly

1619
01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:15,240
Speaker 2: eighteen for twenty two for three hundred and eighty four,

1620
01:24:15,360 --> 01:24:19,320
Speaker 2: yards and four touchdowns against Tulane. I will I will

1621
01:24:19,320 --> 01:24:21,280
Speaker 2: put on my shoes one at a time, I will

1622
01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:23,600
Speaker 2: pull up my pants one leg at a time, and

1623
01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:25,679
Speaker 2: I will ask that question on the show the next

1624
01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:26,840
Speaker 2: time we air USC.

1625
01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:28,920
Speaker 3: Thirty four points for me. Although I do like Michael

1626
01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:32,560
Speaker 3: Pratt a lot, I like Tulane. Yeah, I don't know.

1627
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:35,800
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go USC. But okay, there's a reason that

1628
01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:37,559
Speaker 3: US is only favored by a point and a half

1629
01:24:37,640 --> 01:24:38,240
Speaker 3: in this game.

1630
01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:43,200
Speaker 2: I agree, hamstrings don't heal like ever Ty, you should

1631
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:44,000
Speaker 2: know that by now.

1632
01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:47,599
Speaker 3: Final game, Rose Bowl say the best for last, Utah

1633
01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:53,439
Speaker 3: three point favorite over Penn State. Parker Washington for Penn State,

1634
01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:55,720
Speaker 3: he was hurt. He opted for the NFL draft, Joey

1635
01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:58,880
Speaker 3: Pula also opting out for the NFL Draft. On the

1636
01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:01,280
Speaker 3: Utah side, tav And is done for the year. Dalton

1637
01:25:01,320 --> 01:25:05,360
Speaker 3: Kincaid also done for the year out injured. So I'm

1638
01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:07,920
Speaker 3: gonna go Penn State here, like I'm biased, right, I

1639
01:25:07,960 --> 01:25:10,519
Speaker 3: have to do that, but Penn State five confidence points

1640
01:25:10,520 --> 01:25:11,360
Speaker 3: to close this thing out.

1641
01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:13,800
Speaker 2: I'm going Penn State as well. I'm going with the

1642
01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:17,920
Speaker 2: Penn State defense and Utah losing their clear best playmaker

1643
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:20,519
Speaker 2: on offense. Although I don't have his name in front

1644
01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:23,519
Speaker 2: of me. They had like a third string running back

1645
01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:25,120
Speaker 2: this year. I'll pull it up or you can pull

1646
01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:29,719
Speaker 2: it up. Who absolutely shined the back half of the year,

1647
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:31,840
Speaker 2: and I think this might be a coming out party

1648
01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:33,960
Speaker 2: for him. The problem is the Penn State defense is

1649
01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:37,439
Speaker 2: very good. Yeah. What was Jaquindin Jackson?

1650
01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:39,080
Speaker 3: Quintin Jackson, Yeah, I'm just looking at it.

1651
01:25:39,120 --> 01:25:42,919
Speaker 2: Was very good in sort of spot duty for Utah,

1652
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:46,200
Speaker 2: and I think he kind of shined in the USC

1653
01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:48,639
Speaker 2: game at the end of the year, Pechtel Championship game.

1654
01:25:48,720 --> 01:25:51,280
Speaker 2: So that's something to watch in terms of the next

1655
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:54,080
Speaker 2: steps for Utah's offense. But I'm willing Penn State here. Yeah,

1656
01:25:54,120 --> 01:25:57,400
Speaker 2: I like Penn State. I think just with Sean Clifford

1657
01:25:57,400 --> 01:25:59,479
Speaker 2: playing what should be his last game.

1658
01:25:59,360 --> 01:26:02,479
Speaker 3: Barring anything, I expect it to be. Yeah, math Air

1659
01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:06,759
Speaker 3: on my part, I believe that he will play really

1660
01:26:06,760 --> 01:26:09,640
Speaker 3: well in his in his swan song, let's say in

1661
01:26:09,640 --> 01:26:10,200
Speaker 3: the Rose Bowl.

1662
01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:14,519
Speaker 2: Do you know there's another extra nugget on that topic, Ty,

1663
01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:16,280
Speaker 2: And then we can we can leave the fine people.

1664
01:26:16,640 --> 01:26:18,960
Speaker 2: Oregon may have an eighth year tight end next year

1665
01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:23,640
Speaker 2: because of a bunch of medical that medical excuse, I

1666
01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:28,120
Speaker 2: say research red shirts and the COVID extra year of eligibility.

1667
01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:29,599
Speaker 3: Does that means he messed twenty six?

1668
01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:35,040
Speaker 2: Something like that? He was. He was one of the

1669
01:26:35,080 --> 01:26:38,880
Speaker 2: three players Oregon had who unfortunately suffered from the the

1670
01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:43,320
Speaker 2: Rabdo incident. Under Willie Taggart's strength and conditioning staff. His

1671
01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:45,679
Speaker 2: name is Cam McCormick. Had a key catch against Ohio

1672
01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:48,720
Speaker 2: State and that win. Last season, he was one of

1673
01:26:48,720 --> 01:26:50,599
Speaker 2: their top two or three tight ends and they lost

1674
01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:52,479
Speaker 2: a tight end to the transfer portal. This year they

1675
01:26:52,600 --> 01:26:54,720
Speaker 2: might have I think he has the option. I think

1676
01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:57,599
Speaker 2: it has been approved an eighth year next year, which

1677
01:26:57,640 --> 01:27:01,240
Speaker 2: is two full generations. It's pretty great.

1678
01:27:03,080 --> 01:27:08,120
Speaker 3: With that being said, that is our confidence pool breakdown.

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1682
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1683
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Speaker 3: on out, listen to all of our episodes. It's always

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01:28:31,080 --> 01:28:33,080
Speaker 3: a pleasure here to be with you, Dan, and to

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01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:34,640
Speaker 3: be with a verbollerh hood. As we talked through all

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01:28:34,680 --> 01:28:35,559
Speaker 3: things college football.

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01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:38,960
Speaker 2: Do you know what I'm angry about, Ty, Because everything

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01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:42,120
Speaker 2: you said was completely true and correct and poignant. We

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01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:46,559
Speaker 2: didn't play our December to Remember song at all thus far.

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01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:49,320
Speaker 3: This month, Month is young, My friend.

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01:28:49,160 --> 01:28:50,240
Speaker 2: Month is young. All right.

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01:28:50,439 --> 01:28:51,800
Speaker 3: That's all I have for that guy over there, my

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01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:54,519
Speaker 3: good friend Dan Rubenstein, for myself, Ti hille Brand. Thank

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01:28:54,520 --> 01:28:56,479
Speaker 3: you for bearing with us, Thanks for stopping on by.

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Speaker 3: We will talk to you all very soon. In the meantime,

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Speaker 3: stakes out peace,