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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the

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<v Speaker 1>George Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong

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<v Speaker 1>and Getty. And now, here's Armstrong and Getty. Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a huge night for Widows Bay, winning in

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<v Speaker 2>the major comedy category, Stephen Root winning, Matthew Rhys winning.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, a huge, huge night for Widows Bay.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, to call it a huge night is kind of

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<v Speaker 3>underselling it. It's the biggest night any comedy has ever

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<v Speaker 3>had at the Emmys. And the Emmys? At the Emmys.

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<v Speaker 1>Widows Bay, which is about a.

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<v Speaker 3>A Nazi who decides to join the circus and he

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<v Speaker 3>takes in orphans.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what it's about. I've never, I'd never

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<v Speaker 1>even heard of the show until yesterday. Well, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>a comedy. That's the funny part. It won best comedy.

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<v Speaker 1>78 nominated comedies for not comedies. There are dramas that

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<v Speaker 1>occasionally had a laugh. It's very odd. What are you with?

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<v Speaker 3>It's gotta be a comedy. If nobody steps on a

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<v Speaker 3>banana peel, it's not a comedy.

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<v Speaker 1>What, what? That's precisely my standard, yes. Now, I've watched

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<v Speaker 1>several episodes of it. It's not a comedy. You couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>possibly mistake it for a comedy. That's funny. To each

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<v Speaker 1>their own, but it's just... And who cares, anyway. Awards

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<v Speaker 1>for art are stupid. Although they do alert you to, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>people really like this show, and you can try it yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>I will definitely check it out. So, a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>notes from the world of abusing drugs. First of all, gosh, finally,

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<v Speaker 1>we've all been hoping for this. There is a synthetic

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<v Speaker 1>opioid that is ten times more powerful than fentanyl, which

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<v Speaker 1>of course you remember enough to fill a pencil eraser

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<v Speaker 1>could kill a hundred thousand people or whatever. This makes

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<v Speaker 1>that look like cocaine. Um, and they mentioned this, this

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<v Speaker 1>kid is in San Francisco died of an overdose of it. And, uh, she,

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<v Speaker 1>he'd had troubles with drugs and mom had a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of doses of Narcan she kept just in case, but

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<v Speaker 1>you need multiple, multiple doses of Narcan to even hope

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<v Speaker 1>to bring somebody around If they overdose on cyclorphine. I'm sorry, cyclorphine.

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<v Speaker 1>Does it have a street name? Not that they mention.

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<v Speaker 1>It's got to have some name that they call it. Cyclo, probably,

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that. But it's been big on the

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<v Speaker 1>East Coast. This is the first death on the West

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<v Speaker 1>Coast from it. It is a very, very sad story.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, how about being a parent who keeps narco around

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<v Speaker 3>in case your kid overdoses because there's a likelihood of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, God, what a way to live. And they tried

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<v Speaker 1>as hard as they could. They loved their son. Tried

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<v Speaker 1>to get him help. It just, as you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>just doesn't always work. And then this update from the

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<v Speaker 1>world of drug abuse. 80% of fentanyl traffickers arrested in

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<v Speaker 1>Portland where they have a hellacious drug problem. 80% are

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<v Speaker 1>illegal immigrants from Honduras. Wow. About 80 of the 100

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<v Speaker 1>arrested in the last couple of years in Portland are illegals.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I don't know if you know this, Joe,

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<v Speaker 3>but immigrants from other countries actually commit crimes at a

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<v Speaker 3>lower rate than U.S.

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<v Speaker 1>Born citizens. On the other hand, shut up, you moron.

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<v Speaker 1>That is such a bad argument. Okay, so if it

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<v Speaker 1>was U.S. drug dealers, there would be 80 overdoses. With

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<v Speaker 1>these drug dealers, or these immigrants, because they do crimes

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<v Speaker 1>at a lower percentage, will just have 60 people dead

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<v Speaker 1>of overdose deaths. Therefore, it's good to have them here.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not a freaking argument. It's stupid. But anyway, they're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to crack down after Oregon's disastrous experiment with legalizing

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<v Speaker 1>hard drugs. They're actually trying to crack down on open-air

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<v Speaker 1>drug markets, and they seized enough fentanyl to kill everyone

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<v Speaker 1>in the world. Literally enough to kill 50 million people,

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<v Speaker 1>according to a federal press release. Plus 40 guns and

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<v Speaker 1>$ 1. 3 million in cash. Oh, I'm sorry. It's enough fentanyl

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<v Speaker 1>to kill the 50 million people in Oregon. Wait a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>Oregon doesn't have 50 million people. Oh, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>complicated sentence. That is enough fentanyl to kill 50 million

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<v Speaker 1>people or Oregon's population 11 times. That sounds like it.

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<v Speaker 1>There we go. We've settled down the burning question of

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<v Speaker 1>the population of the great piney-scented state of Oregon. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>but in busting these, and I've heard about this over

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<v Speaker 1>and over again from San Franciscans, too, and San Francisco PD.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all Honduran immigrants. Most of them illegal. But let's

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<v Speaker 1>just keep it going. Just let it enforce the law. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>we could solve a lot of problems if we follow

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<v Speaker 1>those three words. So the New York Times Sienna poll

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<v Speaker 1>came out. They do this a handful of times per year.

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<v Speaker 1>New York Times has a lot of polls, but their

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<v Speaker 1>New York Times Sienna poll is a big deal. They

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<v Speaker 1>spend a lot of money. Sienna is one of those

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<v Speaker 1>second tier colors I mentioned last hour I'm not good at.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it kind of an orange? I think it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a brownish orange. Yeah. It's like mauve or fuchsia.

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard of them, but I don't know what they are.

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<v Speaker 1>Burnt orange? Sienna is the same as burnt orange, Michael?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what nobody says anymore that was popular when

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<v Speaker 3>I was a kid is maroon. Nobody calls anything maroon.

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<v Speaker 1>No, unless they're addressing the fabulous band Maroon 5, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a good point. Anyway, you're saying something about something.

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<v Speaker 3>The New York Times-Siena poll is a big poll. It's

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<v Speaker 3>one of your really respected polls. They do it a

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<v Speaker 3>handful of times per year, spend a ton of money

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<v Speaker 3>on it. Big numbers of people. Byron York of The Examiner,

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<v Speaker 3>conservative writer, conservative newspaper, said, this is not good news

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<v Speaker 3>on all these different issues in which the Republicans are

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<v Speaker 3>on the wrong side of what people think which party

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<v Speaker 3>would do the best with. Regardless of how you might vote,

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<v Speaker 3>please tell me which party you trust to do a

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<v Speaker 3>better job handling each of the following. I like that

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<v Speaker 3>beginning part. Regardless of how you might vote. In other words,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to vote Republican either way. Anyway, but please

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<v Speaker 3>tell me which party you trust to do a better

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<v Speaker 3>job handling each of the following. There's only one in

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<v Speaker 3>which the Republicans are at even, and that's on AI.

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<v Speaker 3>The fact that it's even. This poll was taken before yesterday.

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<v Speaker 3>When Trump came out, hardcore that it's a hoax. So

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know where things would be now, if that

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<v Speaker 3>mattered to anybody. But healthcare, Democrats always have a lead

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<v Speaker 3>on healthcare. I'm not exactly sure why, but they're up

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<v Speaker 3>24 on that. This one bothers me the most. Immigration,

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<v Speaker 3>Democrats have a seven-point lead.

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<v Speaker 1>That's insane. Well, it's the... Border Barbie, what's her name,

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<v Speaker 1>from South Dakota? Kristi Noem? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>She and the things she said, the things they did then,

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<v Speaker 3>they squandered so much political capital because you took an

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<v Speaker 3>open border with the largest migration of humans in world

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<v Speaker 3>history that Joe Biden allowed, shut that down to nothing,

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<v Speaker 3>and then spent all that capital with a bunch of high-profile,

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<v Speaker 3>over-the-top stuff with Kristi Noem.

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<v Speaker 1>It just is a political issue. So, as so many

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<v Speaker 1>things are these days, those numbers are just a directional indication.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Trump administration has gone too far. They

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<v Speaker 1>know the Democrats are terrible on immigration, but they're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to express something, I think. So, anyway, Democrats lead Republicans

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<v Speaker 1>by 7 on immigration. On the deficit, they lead by 10.

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<v Speaker 1>That is almost as hilarious as the immigration thing. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the people who brought us the green freaking New Deal

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<v Speaker 1>and the Inflation Reduction Act. Are you kidding me? I

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<v Speaker 1>give up.

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<v Speaker 3>The economy Democrats winning by seven. That was an issue

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<v Speaker 3>that Trump owned in his first term. Absolutely owned. That's

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<v Speaker 3>what got him elected the second time.

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<v Speaker 1>Guarantee.

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<v Speaker 3>Mostly because people believed he could bring prices down.

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<v Speaker 1>Two things. He claimed he would bring prices down. That

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<v Speaker 1>was never going to happen. He can bring inflation down,

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<v Speaker 1>but not prices in all likelihood. And number two, the tariffs. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Terrible miscalculations.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't understand why they separate the economy and the

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<v Speaker 3>cost of living. Seemed very similar to me, but on

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<v Speaker 3>the cost of living, Democrats lead by eight. Foreign wars,

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<v Speaker 3>Democrats lead by seven. The Israeli-Palestinian conflict, Democrats lead by 11.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Their stance is, yeah, whatever the college kids are

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<v Speaker 1>yelling this week. It's a genocide. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I read a great piece the other day. We've read

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<v Speaker 3>many of them on the air. Great piece explaining how

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<v Speaker 3>it is so not a genocide. No, academia has changed

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<v Speaker 3>the definition of the word genocide. It means any action

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<v Speaker 3>by an oppressor to defend itself. Any action by a

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<v Speaker 3>colonial oppressor to defend itself is by definition genocide. You

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<v Speaker 3>can't get around this argument in my mind, this very

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<v Speaker 3>simple argument. If Hamas laid down their arms, they would

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<v Speaker 3>live and Israel would live. If Israel lays down their arms,

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<v Speaker 3>Hamas kills every Jew in Israel. That's how that would

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<v Speaker 3>play out. Similar with Russia and Ukraine. If Russia lays

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<v Speaker 3>down its arms and stops the war, the war is over.

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<v Speaker 3>If Ukraine lays down its arms and stops the war,

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<v Speaker 3>they get taken over and many of them killed.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Ukraine is over. Not complicated.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, so that's the big New York Times situation. poll

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<v Speaker 3>with 48 days to go before the midterm election.

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<v Speaker 1>Not good news for the Republicans in that poll. Plenty

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<v Speaker 1>of time. Hey, a week is a lifetime in politics, Joe.

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<v Speaker 1>Who knows what's going to happen? I don't know that

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<v Speaker 1>I could stand another week of politics as I sit

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<v Speaker 1>here right now. It's just too discouraging.

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<v Speaker 3>Got two different prosecutors weighing in on why I might

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<v Speaker 3>have gotten booted off the jury yesterday. Might get into that,

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<v Speaker 3>among other things.

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<v Speaker 1>On the way, stay here. Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 2>Finally, a strange woman was stopped by security after entering

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<v Speaker 2>Kamala Harris's Malibu property. Turns out it was just Kamala,

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<v Speaker 2>but no one had ever seen her sober.

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<v Speaker 1>Got to salute his hanging with that joke. Right, that theme.

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<v Speaker 1>A thousand variations. Give me seven.

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<v Speaker 2>This weekend, Bill Clinton revealed why he didn't take out

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<v Speaker 2>bin Laden before 9-11, saying that there was no way

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<v Speaker 2>he was going to let Osama get those 72 virgins first.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. Did Bill speak out on that? I didn't hear it.

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<v Speaker 1>If he did. Missed it.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably asked about it during the anniversary of 9-11. I'll

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<v Speaker 3>have to Google that. Sorry, chat GPT. I haven't actually

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<v Speaker 3>Googled anything in a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and honestly, Google Gemini takes over now a lot, right?

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<v Speaker 1>So you're not Googling it even on Google.

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<v Speaker 3>I find myself using ChatGPT more than anything else. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not exactly sure if there's a reason why, but I do.

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<v Speaker 1>And I like it.

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<v Speaker 3>So I made it as far as I ever have

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<v Speaker 3>made it in terms of being a juror in a trial.

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<v Speaker 3>I went to jury duty, and I was in the box.

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<v Speaker 1>I was one of the 12.

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<v Speaker 3>I was going to be juror number nine unless I

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<v Speaker 3>got booted out, and I didn't think there was a

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<v Speaker 3>chance I'd get kicked out. After I'd gone through the

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<v Speaker 3>questioning and everything like that, I had the same answers

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<v Speaker 3>as everybody else. Most everybody else. A couple of people

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<v Speaker 3>had the usual thing that happens. They ask you questions like, do.

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<v Speaker 1>You know any of the other jurors? I did not.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody else did.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know either one of these lawyers? One of

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<v Speaker 3>the people did. Went to high school with her. Hadn't

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<v Speaker 3>seen her in years.

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<v Speaker 2>Hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>But they didn't kick her off for that. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>do you have any strong opinions about her either?

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<v Speaker 3>No. Could you be, you know, fair and balanced or

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<v Speaker 3>unopinionated or whatever on this trial, having known her in

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<v Speaker 3>high school? Yeah, sure.

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<v Speaker 1>And she was kind of a dud in high school.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't like her, and I couldn't give a crap. So, yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And a couple of people had suffered the same misdemeanor

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<v Speaker 3>crime that the case was about. And a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>them said, you know, I don't think I can be fair. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>here's an interesting one.

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<v Speaker 1>And I... So why did I get kicked off? I

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<v Speaker 1>think I got kicked off.

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<v Speaker 3>I felt like I saw the look of recognition on

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<v Speaker 3>the prosecution lawyer, prosecution attorney, the prosecutor on his face.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought I saw him. I know what this look

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<v Speaker 3>looks like being a minor celebrity. He was like, oh.

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<v Speaker 1>OK, I know who you are.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like that happened. And he just didn't, for

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<v Speaker 3>whatever reason, want me on there talking about this on

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<v Speaker 3>the radio.

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<v Speaker 1>I could be wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>We got a text from one prosecutor who said, you're

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<v Speaker 3>going to get kicked off for any reason. He said,

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes they just don't like strong opinionated people. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know if I'm a strong opinionated person. I'm a loud

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<v Speaker 3>opinionated person. And he might know me and not want

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<v Speaker 3>me on there because I'm opinionated and loud. And just

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<v Speaker 3>you don't want that personality in the jury room. Possibly,

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<v Speaker 3>this particular prosecutor said.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I have no idea about that.

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<v Speaker 3>But to the questioning that went on, the only one

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<v Speaker 3>that I kind of fudged my answer on, that I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not sure about, was making any assumptions about whether or

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<v Speaker 3>not the testimony from a policeman is.

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<v Speaker 1>True or not.

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<v Speaker 3>And I come from a starting place of a cop's

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<v Speaker 3>testifying of thinking they're true unless proven otherwise. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>start from a blank slate, and they want you to

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<v Speaker 3>start from a blank slate. Like, anybody else goes up there,

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<v Speaker 3>just a regular person? I don't know anything about them

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<v Speaker 3>at all. I have no opinion on whether or not

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<v Speaker 3>they're lying to tell the truth. With cops, I think

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<v Speaker 3>I do. You'd have to push me off of their

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<v Speaker 3>telling the truth, which you could easily do. I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>going to, like, stick to my position of all cops

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<v Speaker 3>tell the truth or anything like that. But I do

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<v Speaker 3>come from a starting place of I think the cops

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<v Speaker 3>probably honest.

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<v Speaker 1>I just do. So, I don't know. What are you

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<v Speaker 1>going to do with that? Interesting. Yeah, I got thrown

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<v Speaker 1>off a federal jury for a similar reason. The FBI

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<v Speaker 1>was involved, and I happened at that time to be

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<v Speaker 1>acquainted with a handful of FBI agents. And the judge,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'd indicated that on the questionnaire, and the

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<v Speaker 1>judge said, if one of your friends from the FBI

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<v Speaker 1>was to take the stand, would you give their testimony

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<v Speaker 1>more credibility than anybody else's? And I said, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>And he said, well, what do you think? And I said, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was trying to picture it. I was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to picture one of the people. I said, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I couldn't, I did not want to lie. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>I should have fudged it like you did, because if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know, you know what they want to hear,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's a case-by-case thing. Right. You evaluate the credibility

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<v Speaker 1>of witnesses as they testify. Sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, do you have a starting place of honesty with cops,

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<v Speaker 3>or are you completely tabula rasa on that?

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<v Speaker 1>I do.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a starting place of honesty. I know that

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<v Speaker 3>there are cops that lie, but.

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<v Speaker 1>I lean positive. But I've heard cops joking about testifying. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I have too. You got somebody who's dirty. You know

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<v Speaker 1>they're dirty. They're a bad person. And you may stretch

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<v Speaker 1>things a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't believe that everybody else in that jury box

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<v Speaker 3>has no preset opinion about cops.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe that, that you don't think most cops.

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<v Speaker 3>Are honest or you don't because I've known people that

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<v Speaker 3>think most cops are liars. I've had I've known several

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<v Speaker 3>people in my life that cops lie, that they would

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<v Speaker 3>come from a place of that's a cop probably lying.

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody else in that jury box comes from a place

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<v Speaker 3>of one or the other. I just don't believe that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and what's funny about that, I realize that's important

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<v Speaker 1>in the justice system. It's kind of an obvious question

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<v Speaker 1>to ask, but shouldn't they ask, what about women? What

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<v Speaker 1>do you think of women? You know how they can be.

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<v Speaker 1>How about black people? How do you feel about white people?

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<v Speaker 1>What if a guy's got a Hispanic accent?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think I had come from that position on

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<v Speaker 3>men or women or any race.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe some professions? Used car salesman? I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>have no idea.

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<v Speaker 3>But for cops, I come from a place where I

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<v Speaker 3>think they're probably telling the truth. So sue me, I guess. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>they kicked me out of there is what they did.

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<v Speaker 1>Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 4>And new at 10, Apprentice County investigators are looking for

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<v Speaker 4>a vehicle with fat chicks only written on it. It

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<v Speaker 4>is all in connection with a recent burglary that happened there.

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<v Speaker 4>Deputies say that the family reported a black older model

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<v Speaker 4>Chevrolet Tahoe. The witness said the SUV had the words

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<v Speaker 4>fat chicks only written on the rear glass.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, as you mentioned earlier. I feel like you like

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<v Speaker 1>saying that. You know... I'm all for helping law enforcement,

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<v Speaker 1>but man, is that a distraction. That fact right there.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't hear anything you said after that.

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<v Speaker 3>So they have a sign on their Chevy Tahoe that

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<v Speaker 3>says fat chicks only.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's discrimination, and I'm against it. Well, right, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It's clearly reverse discrimination against the skinny. Yes, Katie. Wait, sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>what did the van say? Oh, that reminds me. I

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<v Speaker 1>hate to take the fun out of it, but the

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<v Speaker 1>Trump Justice Department, Harmeet K. Dhillon, who we talked to

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<v Speaker 1>many times before she was with the DOJ. She was

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<v Speaker 1>a civil rights attorney in California who would go after

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<v Speaker 1>the woke crowd for their plain discrimination. But they have found, now,

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<v Speaker 1>UC Berkeley law, who'd they bust the other day? Was

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<v Speaker 1>it Harvard law? A lot of your big law schools,

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<v Speaker 1>they've just come up with ways to get around anti-discrimination laws.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're still discriminating against black, I'm sorry, against white

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<v Speaker 1>kids and more than that, Asian kids. Like crazy. They've

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<v Speaker 1>just found ways to get around it. It's the classic,

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<v Speaker 1>write an essay about how your worldview has been formed

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of economics and, I don't know, race. And

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<v Speaker 1>the strength of your essay will be very important to

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<v Speaker 1>whether you're admitted. And they all do it. And it's blatant.

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<v Speaker 3>Before we move on, what is the message, Katie, as

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<v Speaker 3>a woman, that Chevy Tahoe was, what was the point

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<v Speaker 3>of it?

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<v Speaker 1>Having a sign that says fat chicks only. They like

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<v Speaker 1>the big women. Would a woman have more insight into

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<v Speaker 1>that than a dude? That sign? I don't know. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not rejecting your premise. I'm intrigued. I just read it

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<v Speaker 1>as a fetish thing. That's a big fetish right now.

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<v Speaker 3>That is not how I would read it, but I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know that I'm comfortable explaining how I would read it.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't even use nice words? I have never said

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<v Speaker 1>this myself. Oh, boy. Maybe it's best left unsaid. I've

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<v Speaker 1>changed my mind. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I have been out with gentlemen before, late into the evening. Oh, my.

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<v Speaker 1>When many of us have been over-served. Oh, no.

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<v Speaker 3>And again, I've never said this myself. I honestly, God,

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<v Speaker 3>have not. But I've known guys that say it's almost

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<v Speaker 3>closing time. It's time to go hogging.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, Lord. And their belief is. Oh, my.

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<v Speaker 3>That a heavier set woman would be more open to

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<v Speaker 3>their invitation for a short-term companionship. And at that point

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<v Speaker 3>in the evening, they're open to that idea.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, kudos to you, sir, for making that

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<v Speaker 1>remarkably unhorrifying. I'm pleasantly surprised and shocked. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's what the message was on that Chevy Tahoe. And

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<v Speaker 1>or his buddies put it there, hoping he wouldn't notice.

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<v Speaker 1>There's that. It could just be a prank. Both a

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<v Speaker 1>thief and a cad.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like I ought to get a reaction from

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<v Speaker 3>Katie on my story before we move on.

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<v Speaker 1>It's objectionable. Of course it's objectionable. It's hurtful. It's dehumanizing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's dehumanizing. It's mean. Literally. I mean, using the H word.

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<v Speaker 1>I did laugh a little bit. I'm so uncomfortable with this.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate cruelty. Well, yeah. Yeah. Did they ever say.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, did that word ever come up in front of

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<v Speaker 3>said women?

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, no, no. Yeah, see, that's the key

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<v Speaker 1>right there. If you wouldn't... I don't know. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to go any further than I have. Did

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<v Speaker 1>these fellows live and work around the Lake Tahoe area? What?

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<v Speaker 1>Was that where the car was? Oh, no.

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<v Speaker 3>I've experienced that scene, unfortunately... A number of times in

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<v Speaker 3>different locales.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well, golly gee. When the bar had unfairly over-served.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Their fault. If you're going to point the finger at anyone. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Go straight back to the bartender. Right. Irresponsible bastards. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>the one who asked for that clip. I blame myself. So,

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<v Speaker 1>speaking of anatomy, and you may find this mildly interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>So I managed to jack up my back yet again,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm seeing a great physical therapist. I mean, unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you thought of a psychic? No, no.

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<v Speaker 3>Chiropractor.

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<v Speaker 1>That thought had not occurred to me. Idiot that I am.

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<v Speaker 1>I meant chiropractor. Oh, boy. No, no. Chiropractor is actually

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<v Speaker 1>very good for back issues. And acne and depression. No,

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<v Speaker 1>not so much there. No, sir. But anyway, here's the

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<v Speaker 1>interesting part. She told me what was wrong with me.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's one of the joints of the spine. But

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<v Speaker 1>the pain was like running along the front of my thigh,

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<v Speaker 1>hip flexor, quad area. And like back into the glute,

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<v Speaker 1>the right butt cheek, the large gluteus maximus. Serious pain

0:23:07.109 --> 0:23:10.810
<v Speaker 1>down there. And I'm like, it's simply muscle strains. I

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<v Speaker 1>have pain and swelling right there. And I didn't disbelieve her,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was intrigued. So I did a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>reading about it. And sure enough, back stuff, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>know where to send the pain signals because it lies

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<v Speaker 1>to your brain. Your problem is in that joint. It's inflamed,

0:23:31.750 --> 0:23:35.420
<v Speaker 1>but the way it fires the pain signals, it actually

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<v Speaker 1>tells your brain, no, this muscle's messed up and that

0:23:37.840 --> 0:23:42.820
<v Speaker 1>one hurts, and they'll actually seize up And all because

0:23:43.119 --> 0:23:46.240
<v Speaker 1>your back's jacked up and there's nothing wrong with those muscles.

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<v Speaker 1>They're perfectly fine.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like those AI bots lying to mislead you or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a little like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's phantom pain or referred pain,

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<v Speaker 1>I think is what they, they call it.

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<v Speaker 4>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm glad I don't have the back thing that like, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>like Steve Kerr, the coach of the warriors had so

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<v Speaker 3>bad that he missed a whole season, get an operation and,

0:24:05.190 --> 0:24:06.970
<v Speaker 3>and swears don't ever get a back operation.

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<v Speaker 1>My, uh, my brother has horrible back problems.

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<v Speaker 3>After life in the military, and just everything he does,

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<v Speaker 3>getting in and out of a car, just everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've said many times I'm just nuts enough to

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<v Speaker 1>really sympathize with people who are actually nuts. My back

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<v Speaker 1>is just bad enough. I really sympathize with people who

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<v Speaker 1>have chronic back problems. Mine will get better. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's terrible. It's terrible. Anyway, you have our sympathy, if

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<v Speaker 1>nothing else. Wow, we're almost out of time. got a

0:24:40.980 --> 0:24:44.740
<v Speaker 1>couple of stories of fraud that are, I mean, they're

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<v Speaker 1>so bad you have to laugh to keep from crying.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's a Georgian national, not the state of Georgia, the

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<v Speaker 1>country of Georgia, beloved former Soviet Republic, who's been charged

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<v Speaker 1>with a $ 1. 3 billion in fraudulent payments of your tax

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<v Speaker 1>dollars targeting Medicare and similar programs, run through a Pennsylvania

0:25:07.609 --> 0:25:15.420
<v Speaker 1>durable medical equipment company. This guy $ 1. 3 billion healthcare fraud scheme.

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<v Speaker 1>At least they found him. But then in the free press,

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<v Speaker 1>they report on this California guy sentenced to 30 years

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<v Speaker 1>for orchestrating a $ 270 million medication reimbursement fraud scheme targeting Medi-Cal.

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<v Speaker 1>These guys, when I got $ 50 million, I'm gonzo. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>no kidding. Maybe that's why I'm not a criminal or something, but...

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like a couple of giant houses. Because you get

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<v Speaker 1>tired of the one.

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<v Speaker 3>You've stolen $ 5 million and you think, you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>could live the.

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<v Speaker 1>Rest of my life on this, but why? What if

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<v Speaker 1>it becomes clear to you, not only are they unlikely

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<v Speaker 1>to figure it out, but the mechanisms to figure it

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<v Speaker 1>out don't even exist. Just nobody cares.

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<v Speaker 3>That probably plays a role, is how easy it was

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<v Speaker 3>to steal the first $ 5 million.

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<v Speaker 1>You think, why would I stop now? If I was

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<v Speaker 1>writing a newspaper article about it or a magazine article,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd probably say they're emboldened by the blankety blank. But

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<v Speaker 1>emboldened isn't the right word. Because they're probably amazed. They

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<v Speaker 1>probably think, they don't even check this paperwork. I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to screw them good and hard. So frustrating. And then

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<v Speaker 1>the final story of fraud. This is, again, you got

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<v Speaker 1>to laugh to keep from crying. This is an actual

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<v Speaker 1>Nigerian prince, more or less. He has ripped off The

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<v Speaker 1>California Home Health Agency, so wildly and aggressively over the

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<v Speaker 1>last several years, he has like half a dozen different

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<v Speaker 1>mansions in the U.S., and he's been so generous in

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<v Speaker 1>his home village in Nigeria that they have golden statues

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<v Speaker 1>of himself and his wife. He's now, he's been voted

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<v Speaker 1>the chief of the village or whatever, and they have festivals.

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<v Speaker 3>Noblesse oblige after he steals all the money?

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, listen to Mr. Fancy over here. Yeah, exactly. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he has been incredibly generous in his home village, just

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<v Speaker 1>spreading out all sorts of money and building a civic

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<v Speaker 1>center and like a hospital or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>It is funny that I said that after telling the

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<v Speaker 3>Hagen story.

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<v Speaker 1>You're a complicated man. You have layers like an onion. Fascinating. fascinating.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, these guys have mansions all over the place,

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<v Speaker 1>millions and millions and millions of dollars in real estate.

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<v Speaker 1>They had this, I can't even remember, was this guy

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<v Speaker 1>drugs or, oh no, home healthcare. They billed $ 89, 000 to

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<v Speaker 1>the California program in 2018, $ 89, 000. In 2022, they're up

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<v Speaker 1>to nearly $ 4 million. Back to the whole They realized

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<v Speaker 1>nobody even checks this stuff. They went from $ 4 million

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<v Speaker 1>to two companies that billed $ 17 and $ 13 million, respectively,

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<v Speaker 1>the next year or the year after that. So now

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<v Speaker 1>we're up to $ 30 million in billing. And every expert

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<v Speaker 1>who they talk to, this is a long and really

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<v Speaker 1>good article in City Journal. I think it may be

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<v Speaker 1>the great Chris Ruffo. Is it? Yes. Chris Ruffo and

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<v Speaker 1>Madeline Rowley doing some great journalism. But they talked to

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<v Speaker 1>every expert, and they said, nobody could conceivably have growth

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<v Speaker 1>like that. You couldn't possibly scale your company up like that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's undoable. And they have no records of having any employees.

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<v Speaker 1>You'd have to have hundreds of employees. There are giant

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<v Speaker 1>car-dealer-sized red flags waving back and forth. And the state

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<v Speaker 1>of California just walked by him.

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<v Speaker 3>Like the big, giant, inflatable guy with the floppy arms saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, fraud over here. But the giant American flags, because

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<v Speaker 1>car dealers know the more they love America, the more

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to want to buy cars from them, apparently. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>flags that size. Yeah. That's frustrating. Gold statues. It makes

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<v Speaker 1>Trump look unassuming. We will finish strong next. Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 1>The voice you're about to hear is a doughy, fat,

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<v Speaker 1>naked guy at the San Francisco quote-unquote pride gathering. With children.

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<v Speaker 2>Being allowed here, do you think that it's inappropriate for

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<v Speaker 2>nudity to be allowed in front of children, or do

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<v Speaker 2>you think it's an expression?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's fine as long as it's not sexual

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<v Speaker 1>in nature. People having sex in front of kids? Absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 1>Hell no. That's wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>As long as it's just about promoting acceptance of the

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<v Speaker 3>human body, though, that's different.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think people should understand the difference between those

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<v Speaker 1>two things. I like that guy more than I thought

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<v Speaker 1>I would. What's the need, though? What's the need? Acceptance

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<v Speaker 1>of the human body. Fine. Do that with your own kids.

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<v Speaker 3>My kids don't need to, when they're little especially, see

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<v Speaker 3>some naked guy, naked girl.

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<v Speaker 1>Plus, I don't trust you.

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<v Speaker 3>There's something about being comfortable being naked around someone else's

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<v Speaker 3>little kids that makes me very suspect of your motives.

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<v Speaker 1>A follow-up question. What the hell are you taking your

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<v Speaker 1>kids to that for? Katie, that's not helpful. He carries

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<v Speaker 1>his weight high. All right? What? Some of us do.

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<v Speaker 3>Get some over-the-shoulder boulder holders for those things.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I hadn't seen the picture. He is a fleshy-chested man. Yes. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a C. At least a C, isn't it? Don't bring...

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<v Speaker 1>Nice one. If not bigger, yeah. Do not bring your

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<v Speaker 1>kids to this freaking madness.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, dude, you sounded normal there, but I'm suspect that

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<v Speaker 3>you have no sexual interest in displaying your willy to kids.

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<v Speaker 4>I just.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe you. I don't believe you. You get

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of jollies out of that that I don't like.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a weird looking dude. All right. I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 1>make an important point in here. I give up.

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<v Speaker 3>I got this. We'll have to read this more tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 3>Just came across it.

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<v Speaker 1>Have the audio. Here's an NYU philosopher doing an interview.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate him already.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, he now works at Anthropic? You know, they hired

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<v Speaker 3>some philosophers at the various big companies to try to

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<v Speaker 3>deal with its impact on the world and what's right

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<v Speaker 3>and what's wrong. And here's the long and short of it.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll get into the details tomorrow. AI ethics has focused

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<v Speaker 3>too much on protecting humans and ignored the welfare of

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<v Speaker 3>the AI agents themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>Told you I'd hate them. How do you like that?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm more likely to hit it off with breasty, naked-in-front-of-kids

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<v Speaker 1>guy than NYU philosophy professor. Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>We only ask, how do we align models for the

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<v Speaker 3>flourishing of humanity? We need to ask, how do we

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<v Speaker 3>design AI so that they can flourish, the AI agents?

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<v Speaker 1>You're a nut. There are some ideas so stupid only

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<v Speaker 1>an intellectual could hold them. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I've mentioned many, many times the guy that started Google,

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<v Speaker 3>one of them, Larry Page, telling Elon at a party

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<v Speaker 3>in Napa, you're a speciesist by preferring humans over AI.

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<v Speaker 1>Hmm. Okay. Yeah, I am then, if that's what you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to call me. Go ahead. I've been called worse. Michael,

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<v Speaker 1>do we have enough time to enjoy our montage of

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<v Speaker 1>people both inside and outside of Waymo cars screaming at them?

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<v Speaker 3>13.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, Waymo, please move. Waymo, please move. Alexa! Alexa!

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<v Speaker 3>This area flooded and my car is driving in the

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<v Speaker 3>middle of it.

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<v Speaker 1>What the hell? Oh, the Waymo's on the track. Here

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<v Speaker 1>comes the train. Waymo, come on!

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<v Speaker 2>Go!

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<v Speaker 1>I like people yelling Alexa at the Waymo. That's pretty funny. Well,

0:33:40.770 --> 0:33:47.550
<v Speaker 1>it was yelling Waymo any better? How about Jimmy the car?

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<v Speaker 1>They'll perfect it in one of these days. What do

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<v Speaker 1>we say now? It's Final Thoughts. I'm stronger getting. It's

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<v Speaker 1>Final Thoughts. It's Final Thoughts. I'm stronger getting. You're ready

0:34:01.300 --> 0:34:05.680
<v Speaker 1>with Katie Green and Michael Angelo. It's Final Thoughts. I'm stronger.

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<v Speaker 3>I've only done this 8,000 times. I forgot the order.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's your host for Final Thoughts, Joe Getty.

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<v Speaker 1>It happens. Hey, let's get a final thought from everybody

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<v Speaker 1>on the crew to wrap up the show for the day.

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<v Speaker 1>Wouldn't that be delightful? Michelangelo will lead the way. Michael,

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<v Speaker 1>what's your final thought? As a rule, people who want

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<v Speaker 1>to get nude in public are the last people you

0:34:22.920 --> 0:34:27.050
<v Speaker 1>want to see get nude in public. Almost 100% true. Yep,

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<v Speaker 1>lots of old men riding bicycles. Makes you stop and think.

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<v Speaker 1>Katie Green, our esteemed newswoman, has a final thought. Katie?

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<v Speaker 1>Along those lines, doughy and fleshy are two really bad

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<v Speaker 1>ways to be described. Yeah, true.

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't put that in my bubble profile.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I constantly describe myself as doughy, though it's accurate.

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<v Speaker 1>The German word is softie. Jack, a final thought. I

0:34:53.590 --> 0:34:58.230
<v Speaker 1>am a most impacted soft dish, essentially. Yes, I'm impacted

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<v Speaker 1>by the last thing I was talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>As usual, that philosophy PhD who thinks we need to

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<v Speaker 3>prioritize the needs.

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<v Speaker 1>Of AI agents. How do you possibly get there? I'd

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<v Speaker 1>like to prioritize slapping him upside the head.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you have parents? Do you have a wife? Do

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<v Speaker 3>you have anybody, any humans you care about in your life,

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<v Speaker 3>you weirdo?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. My final thought, we didn't have a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>time for the fraud stuff, which is probably fine, but...

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<v Speaker 1>Big government can't work. It never works. Because of the

0:35:33.030 --> 0:35:36.049
<v Speaker 1>nature of the government itself, it's too easy to rip

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<v Speaker 1>off and squander taxpayer money. It can never, ever work.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't think there's any getting rid of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Armstrong and Getty wrapping up another grueling four-hour workday.

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<v Speaker 1>So many people to thank. So many people yelling at

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<v Speaker 1>Waymo Cars. Go to armstrongandgetty.com. Got some great swag there.

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<v Speaker 1>The Enforce the Law t-shirts. The Socialism Sucks t-shirts. See

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<v Speaker 1>you tomorrow. God bless America. Armstrong and Getty.