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<v Speaker 2>Warning, the following episode contains explicit language and sexual themes.

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<v Speaker 3>Listener discretion is advised topping our Worldly today is a

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<v Speaker 3>tale that seems straight out of a spine novel. So audacious,

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<v Speaker 3>so horrific, it would have to be a work of fiction,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's all too true.

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<v Speaker 4>This is the tragic story of Alexander Livignanko.

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<v Speaker 2>Familiar ma Lietuinian because the olpe mi in Alexander here

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<v Speaker 2>buship Olkovnik.

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<v Speaker 5>In Russian, I have a named Alexander Litvinenko. I am

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<v Speaker 5>a former KGB FSB officer. My rank lieutenant colonel. My

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<v Speaker 5>position deputy head of Section Top Secret Department of FSB.

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<v Speaker 4>Alexander Livinenko was a former FSB officer who is fighting

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<v Speaker 4>organized crime. He soon discovered a connection between high ranking

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<v Speaker 4>officers in the FSB and Russian criminal gangs. When he

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<v Speaker 4>began investigating this FSB corruption, he was blocked by Putin. Frustrated,

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<v Speaker 4>he soon became a whistleblower for the FSB's dirty tricks,

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<v Speaker 4>their organized crime activity, their secret assassinations, even their supposed

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<v Speaker 4>involvement in the terrorist apartment bombing it was used to

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<v Speaker 4>justify at the Second Chechen War.

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<v Speaker 3>The former Federal Security Service agent admits he's worried about

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<v Speaker 3>coming forward with the allegations and says he fears for

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<v Speaker 3>the life of his wife and child, but Litfonnanko says

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<v Speaker 3>he decided to come forward because quote, if these people

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<v Speaker 3>are not stopped, this lawlessness will flood the country.

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<v Speaker 4>Livignenko eventually fled Russia England. We shared his secrets work

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<v Speaker 4>to try and bring down Putin and start protection from

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<v Speaker 4>the British government. While there he connected with Russian historian

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<v Speaker 4>Yuri Felshtinsky and together they wrote the book Blowing Up

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<v Speaker 4>Russia Terror from Within. Delshtinsky recalls the last time he

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<v Speaker 4>saw Lefnienko in person.

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<v Speaker 2>So last time we met in London and there was

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<v Speaker 2>a memorial service for Annapolitkovsko, which was killed like a

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<v Speaker 2>week before, and they came slightly earlier. The door was

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<v Speaker 2>still closed, and I saw Litwinianko from a distance. He

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<v Speaker 2>was running through me and yelling to me. Yuri I

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<v Speaker 2>just got British citizenship. Now they will not be able

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<v Speaker 2>to touch me. And so this was on certains of

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<v Speaker 2>October and on the first of November he was poisoned.

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<v Speaker 6>On the first of November, just after he become a

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<v Speaker 6>British citizen, he met two former colleagues from Russia's intelligence

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<v Speaker 6>wealth in a pine bar at the Millennium Hotel. Two

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<v Speaker 6>days later, he was admitted to his local hospital vomiting

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<v Speaker 6>and a great pain.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's Yuri Felshtinski again with something I never knew about

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<v Speaker 4>how these international poisoning missions work.

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<v Speaker 2>This is very important. You notice probably that every time

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<v Speaker 2>somebody is poisoned, it's usually like two people or even

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<v Speaker 2>more involved. And this has a reason the FSB still

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<v Speaker 2>does not trust those people whom they sent to kill,

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<v Speaker 2>because the chance that they would defect is very high. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>that's why you always send them in groups at least

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<v Speaker 2>two people, and they have to be together all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>They sleep in the in one room in the hotel,

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<v Speaker 2>so they really are not allowed to not to be

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<v Speaker 2>alone because one is control in the other.

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<v Speaker 4>There's one other safeguard that helped keep Litvinenko's assassins from

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<v Speaker 4>defecting independent in their mission. The fact that they used

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<v Speaker 4>radioactive polonium two ten, said to be one of the

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<v Speaker 4>most toxic substances on earth, to do the job.

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<v Speaker 2>If they're operating with radio active poisoning, they then they

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<v Speaker 2>actually are not able to defect because the fs WE

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<v Speaker 2>will find them very quickly because they are already marked

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<v Speaker 2>with radiation.

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<v Speaker 4>A few days after Litvinenko, the FSB whistleblower, entered the

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<v Speaker 4>hospital for treatment, Valshtinski spoke with him and Livinenko was

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<v Speaker 4>feeling optimistic.

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<v Speaker 7>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I talked to him by fore several days, soon after

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<v Speaker 2>the first of November, and he told me that, look,

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<v Speaker 2>I was poisoned, but I survived, and then after the

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<v Speaker 2>first ten days his health deteriorated.

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<v Speaker 4>Ertoshtinsky, Lievinenko's co writor and friend, shares next explain something

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<v Speaker 4>that you talk about when covering these poisonings in the news,

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<v Speaker 4>how unbelievably horrible they are.

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<v Speaker 2>He was telling me that, you know, this was so

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<v Speaker 2>painful that if I have a choice, and Lutwinanko was

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<v Speaker 2>at one point in Russia are arrested by the government

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<v Speaker 2>and put in prison for almost a year, and he said,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if you give me a choice to spend

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<v Speaker 2>another year in prison or to go through this poisoning.

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<v Speaker 2>I would rather spend another year in prison, that's how

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<v Speaker 2>painful this was ban on twenty of Nowember.

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<v Speaker 8>He died in the late afternoon of Thursday, twenty third November.

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<v Speaker 8>The police confirmed with the Health Protection Agency that a

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<v Speaker 8>significant quantity of the radio activisor to polonium two, one, zero,

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<v Speaker 8>two and ten have been found in mister Vinenko's urine.

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<v Speaker 4>I asked Kalshtinsky after experiencing all this, what does he

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<v Speaker 4>think people don't know about Russian intelligence that they need

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<v Speaker 4>to know?

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<v Speaker 2>What people do not really understand that we have the

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<v Speaker 2>largest special services structure in the world, with the largest

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<v Speaker 2>budget in the world, and enormous amount of people and

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<v Speaker 2>tre well, now we do not really know how many

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<v Speaker 2>people work for the FSB, And so.

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<v Speaker 4>We resume Aleiah's story as she's unknowingly about to begin

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<v Speaker 4>a similar journey with her colleague Sasha uncover corruption in

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<v Speaker 4>the FSB from within, an investigation that, as history clearly shows,

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<v Speaker 4>does not usually end well for the agents involved, and

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<v Speaker 4>this investigation would be no exception.

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<v Speaker 3>I had to kill you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really sorry I had to do it. That I

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<v Speaker 2>got on my duty thins away. I was old and

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<v Speaker 2>my god, I got to to you. I had to

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<v Speaker 2>kill you.

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<v Speaker 7>Bs is so much for.

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<v Speaker 4>Episode fourteen, Chapter thirty, gathering evidence. It was finally time.

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<v Speaker 7>Sasha brought me sleeping pills, which supposed to help me

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<v Speaker 7>to put Vladimir into long sleep, deep deep sleep.

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<v Speaker 4>Lee's mission was the slip sleeping pills into the dinner

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<v Speaker 4>of her target, Vladimir, leader of one of the most

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<v Speaker 4>dangerous gangs in the city. While he was knocked out.

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<v Speaker 4>She planned to photograph the documents in his office for

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<v Speaker 4>her colleagues in the FSKN, the Federal Drug Control Service

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<v Speaker 4>of Russia.

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<v Speaker 7>It was like a quiet evening. I cooked some dinner

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<v Speaker 7>and I gave him the pill in the glass of water.

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<v Speaker 7>Then we went upstairs and I was massaged when rubbing

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<v Speaker 7>his shoulders when he was like just laying on the side,

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<v Speaker 7>and I was telling him some kind of like bullshet

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<v Speaker 7>from the university about teachers. So it was like really slow.

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<v Speaker 7>There is a technique about a hypnosis. When you want

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<v Speaker 7>like your target to relax and fall asleep, you put

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<v Speaker 7>your target into the trunds. So I did that and

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<v Speaker 7>Vladimir started to sleep, and I was laying looking at

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<v Speaker 7>the ceiling, looking at myself and thinking how do I

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<v Speaker 7>do it? I was waiting till about like one am,

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<v Speaker 7>so it will be late late night, and very very slowly,

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<v Speaker 7>almost like a cat, and I walked out from the

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<v Speaker 7>room into that office room. I took my camera and

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<v Speaker 7>I took the small flashlight, and I basically photographed all

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<v Speaker 7>these papers and I just saw like many numbers and

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<v Speaker 7>some places and many many different names. And I opened

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<v Speaker 7>also notebook. I did like all the photos over there

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<v Speaker 7>with telephone numbers. So I photographed everything, and when I finished,

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<v Speaker 7>I just returned to bad and I hided my back

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<v Speaker 7>with the camera like onderneath of the clothes which was

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<v Speaker 7>on the armchair. Early morning.

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<v Speaker 2>We woke up.

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<v Speaker 7>Vladimir felt good and he said, oh, I had such

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<v Speaker 7>a good sleep. Finally, yeah, thanks to me.

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<v Speaker 4>The next morning, Aleah prepared to meet with her colleague

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<v Speaker 4>Sasha and hand over the camera, making sure to download

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<v Speaker 4>a copy of the files for herself first. They were

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<v Speaker 4>both new to intelligence work and given this mission by

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<v Speaker 4>their commander to fail, but inexperience often comes with enthusiasm,

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<v Speaker 4>and they were succeeding, perhaps too well. For their own safety.

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<v Speaker 7>I was in rush to only one thing, which I did.

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<v Speaker 7>I took the memory card, so I downloaded all the

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<v Speaker 7>things in my computer. I installed it back to the camera,

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<v Speaker 7>and I passed the camera to Sasha.

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<v Speaker 4>Back at home, Lia sat down at her computer to

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<v Speaker 4>examine the photograph she'd taken of the documents in Vladimir's office.

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<v Speaker 7>And what I've seen there blew my mind. I texted

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<v Speaker 7>Sasha and I said, I think I found out something

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<v Speaker 7>important which might be a big explanation in all this mess,

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<v Speaker 7>and maybe it gives us the light of what just

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<v Speaker 7>happened with this case. Let's meet at the same place tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 7>He said, yeah, let's do it. And he didn't come.

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<v Speaker 7>He didn't show up, and I was really worried. I

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<v Speaker 7>didn't know exactly what to do. I called him, he

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<v Speaker 7>didn't pick up. I texted, he didn't reply.

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<v Speaker 4>When aliyahs Vladimir later that day, she tried to conceal

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<v Speaker 4>her worries about Sasha and what may have happened to him.

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<v Speaker 7>So Vladimir he asked me, like, I said, everything okay,

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<v Speaker 7>And I said, like, no, everything is okay, And I

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<v Speaker 7>try not to be worried about Sasha, and that day

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<v Speaker 7>I heard the conversation between Vladimir and his army friend

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<v Speaker 7>and it was a big argument, and army friend was

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<v Speaker 7>saying to Vladimir, we've been losing many many drugs recently

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<v Speaker 7>and this is not good. I'm responsible in front of

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<v Speaker 7>these people in Afghanistan and if something goes wrong, de

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<v Speaker 7>will cut off my head, not yours. And Vladimir said

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<v Speaker 7>it won't happen. I will protect you. Everything will be

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<v Speaker 7>all right. But the conversation finished on the note where

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<v Speaker 7>I understood that the army friend wasn't really satisfied. I

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<v Speaker 7>reached out Sasha again the next day and he came

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<v Speaker 7>to that place where I usually met and I was

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<v Speaker 7>like almost cremated him, like I'm like, what the hell

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<v Speaker 7>you didn't pick up the phone? You like freaked me out.

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<v Speaker 7>I thought something happened to you. And he said, the

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<v Speaker 7>reason why I couldn't contact you is because for the

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<v Speaker 7>whole night and day I was spying on our commander.

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<v Speaker 7>And he'll be shocked to what I will tell you

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<v Speaker 7>right now. So in these documents which I photographed, there

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<v Speaker 7>was a few times written the name of our commander

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<v Speaker 7>and Sasha when he was spying on our commander. Our

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<v Speaker 7>commander had a meeting with Vladimir's friend. Then he said,

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<v Speaker 7>why our commander sent us to this drug operation and

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<v Speaker 7>we arrested people and we confiscated drugs, and yet now

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<v Speaker 7>he's speaking with this guy. I asked Sashall if he

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<v Speaker 7>has done any photos or anything like that. So apparently

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<v Speaker 7>he did, which is good. And also we had this

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<v Speaker 7>document stating that our commander was involved. So more or

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<v Speaker 7>less I had some evidences, some compromat, let's say, to

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<v Speaker 7>our commander, and I started to dig in more, and

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<v Speaker 7>eventually in my head I created a plan how to

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<v Speaker 7>save myself and Vladimir out of all this big mess.

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<v Speaker 4>Chapter thirty one, This sting. The next day, Eliah met

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<v Speaker 4>with her friend Anna, who is part of the gang's entourage,

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<v Speaker 4>to see if she knew anything more about what was

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<v Speaker 4>going on.

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<v Speaker 7>She said, the man with whom she was dating, he

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<v Speaker 7>said to her that the whole gang had started to

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<v Speaker 7>be divided, so slowly the army front wore bringing his

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<v Speaker 7>people together to create kind of a good confrontation towards

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<v Speaker 7>Vladimir's people. I felt sorrow because I started to realize

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<v Speaker 7>that there is something going on behind his back, and

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<v Speaker 7>he doesn't even know, you know, like I wanted to

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<v Speaker 7>kind of like protect him.

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<v Speaker 4>This is probably not standard practice for an undercover agent,

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<v Speaker 4>but this is what happens when he mix love and war.

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<v Speaker 4>As much as the state would like to turn people

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<v Speaker 4>into robots or at least sociopaths without empathy, they're still

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<v Speaker 4>human at the end of the day, and a human

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<v Speaker 4>connection usually wins over a work order. When a Liah

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<v Speaker 4>met with Vladimir next, she tried to find a way

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<v Speaker 4>to hint to him that his army friend, his second

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<v Speaker 4>in command, who has saved his life during the war,

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<v Speaker 4>might be plotting to betray him.

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<v Speaker 7>I tried to start the conversation and I asked him, like,

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<v Speaker 7>do you trust your friend? And he said, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 7>trust him. He saved my life. I owe him for that.

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<v Speaker 7>I understood that moment that it would be just almost

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<v Speaker 7>impossible to tell him anything. I thought, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>I will find a way how to make it write.

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<v Speaker 7>So next day we met with Sasha again and he

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<v Speaker 7>gave me some photos, like there were like a couple

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<v Speaker 7>photos of our commanders standing with this army friend, and

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<v Speaker 7>he told me, I am worried about my life he said,

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<v Speaker 7>I know too much now, and you do. And he said,

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<v Speaker 7>if something happens with me, promised that you will take

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<v Speaker 7>care of this information and you will make sure that

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<v Speaker 7>he will get what he deserve. And that moment I

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<v Speaker 7>remembered about colnel because I remember that dinner when a

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<v Speaker 7>first time met my future commander, and I remembered them

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<v Speaker 7>sitting and drinking vodka and just having this kind of

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<v Speaker 7>look to each other, and something told me that all

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<v Speaker 7>of them involved in this thing, something like it's just

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<v Speaker 7>like a gut feeling, but yet without evidences, it's just

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<v Speaker 7>a thought.

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<v Speaker 4>Leah told Sasha about the colonel, her abuser at the

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<v Speaker 4>military academy and the commander's close friend, and asked if

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<v Speaker 4>it was possible to see if the colonel was involved

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<v Speaker 4>with the gang at all. Sasha replied that they should

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<v Speaker 4>just keep taking down the trafficking network and watching everyone closely,

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<v Speaker 4>and eventually the truth would be revealed.

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<v Speaker 7>He said, like, let's see what would be the react

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<v Speaker 7>once we know, we will understand who is really involved

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<v Speaker 7>in there and who is not.

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<v Speaker 4>They decided to rate another one of the spots out

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<v Speaker 4>of Vladimir's map. They timed the operation to take place

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<v Speaker 4>during a celebration that the gang was planning for a

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<v Speaker 4>member's birthday. This way Eliah could watch everyone's responses.

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<v Speaker 7>Then Sasha can arrest them and we will see how

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<v Speaker 7>like other people in this chain, how will they respond.

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<v Speaker 7>So that day we organized everything. I remember even like

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<v Speaker 7>what I was worrying that day.

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<v Speaker 4>That afternoon, Aliyah's colleague Sasha showed up with their team

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<v Speaker 4>as a suspected drug dealing operation, and as usual, sent

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<v Speaker 4>in an informant to buy drugs with marked money. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 4>Aliyah was with Vladimir at the gang member's birthday celebration.

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<v Speaker 7>So everybody was drinking for the house of the birthday person,

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<v Speaker 7>and suddenly the army guy stand up and he leaves.

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<v Speaker 7>Somebody called him. I opened my back and I texted

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<v Speaker 7>Sasha that the army guy just left. Vladimir is here.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm just like I'm controlling the whole inform of situation.

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<v Speaker 7>I will text you what's going on. He texted me,

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<v Speaker 7>It's okay, we work on it. I will text you later.

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<v Speaker 7>And I never heard from him since that moment. So

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<v Speaker 7>I'm sitting there. Vladimir is like stressed. He receiving some calls.

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<v Speaker 7>He replies, but it's all kind of like yes no, yes, no,

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<v Speaker 7>and I couldn't understand what's going on. I'm just sitting

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<v Speaker 7>but I'm going to the toilet. Text Sasha, Hey, what's up?

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<v Speaker 7>Text me? And no answer. Came back again from the toilet,

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<v Speaker 7>sitting again with Vladimir. Everybody drinking and so on. I

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<v Speaker 7>couldn't eat a drink. I was just sitting there and

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<v Speaker 7>pretending that I'm okay and I'm smiling. Go to the toilet,

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<v Speaker 7>text Sasha, no messages, back, coming back again, sitting stressing

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<v Speaker 7>again and again and again and again, and I had

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<v Speaker 7>like this kind of feeling inside of me where you know,

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<v Speaker 7>something is like not good. We were driving home and

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<v Speaker 7>Vladimir was sitting with come was probably the same face

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<v Speaker 7>because like we didn't really talk.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just like.

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<v Speaker 7>Opening my bag and trying to see the telephone, my

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<v Speaker 7>small matarola if there are any message from Sasha, and

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<v Speaker 7>it wasn't. It was empty. You just drove back. When

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<v Speaker 7>we came to the city, Vladimir voiced like intense and

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<v Speaker 7>I said, you know, like I don't feel good. I

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<v Speaker 7>wanted to just like lay down. Can you drop me home?

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<v Speaker 7>And He's like yeah, of course. Besides, I want to

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<v Speaker 7>check something too, So he dropped me home and I

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<v Speaker 7>didn't call to the commander obviously, and I didn't call

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<v Speaker 7>anyone apart from one person who was in our team.

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<v Speaker 7>I texted him. He didn't reply. I called him. He

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<v Speaker 7>picked up the call and I said like, hey, hey,

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<v Speaker 7>it's me. What's going on? And I heard his voice

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<v Speaker 7>was almost like broken. His voice sounded like so far away,

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<v Speaker 7>And I asked him, do you know where it is? Sasha?

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<v Speaker 7>He said yes, said so what happened? Can you tell me?

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<v Speaker 7>He said, so, we sent our drug bait guy who

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<v Speaker 7>does all this transactions with the mark money, and when

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<v Speaker 7>we entered the house, we entered the main door, he

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<v Speaker 7>said like there was like few Afghani men and they

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<v Speaker 7>started to shoot, and Sasha was the first who entered

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<v Speaker 7>as the commander of the team, and he said he

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<v Speaker 7>was the one who received the first bullet. And I

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<v Speaker 7>asked him, Sasha always worrying the bullet protection jacket. He

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<v Speaker 7>said yes, he does, and I said, so is he okay?

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<v Speaker 7>He said no, And I said, like where was the

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<v Speaker 7>bullet proof jacket? And he didn't reply to me, and

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<v Speaker 7>I said, like, where was the bullet proof jacket. I

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<v Speaker 7>was almost like screaming, and he said, he's in the

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<v Speaker 7>the mark. I said, what's going on with the commander?

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<v Speaker 7>What did he say? He said, like he was like

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<v Speaker 7>really pissed off, and he said that he's all going

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<v Speaker 7>to put us to jail because they did the whole

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<v Speaker 7>operation without his permission. I standed there at the room

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<v Speaker 7>and I just couldn't. I couldn't do anything, and I,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, like this feeling where I started to hate,

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<v Speaker 7>like the strong like anger, the anger that he's just

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<v Speaker 7>not here anymore, and the guilt.

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<v Speaker 4>Leah felt that the commander or someone must have told

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<v Speaker 4>the drug dealers to expect a raid and to expect impunity,

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<v Speaker 4>otherwise they would have had their guns out and started

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<v Speaker 4>firing immediately.

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<v Speaker 7>And I just hated I would commander so much. I

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<v Speaker 7>felt like he betrayed Sasha, He betrayed his own people

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<v Speaker 7>for his own good. It was a very dark, dark day.

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<v Speaker 7>I remember Sasha told me the last time I saw him,

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<v Speaker 7>if something happened to me, promise me that you will

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<v Speaker 7>get the justice and you will finish this case. And

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<v Speaker 7>I gave him this word. And I had almost like

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<v Speaker 7>every single evidences towards my commander. I had voters him

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<v Speaker 7>and the criminal leader, this army friend of Vladimir I

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<v Speaker 7>had handwritten name on the papers. And I was thinking, okay,

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<v Speaker 7>so if I will have all these documents and all

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<v Speaker 7>these evidences, whom do I go to prove it that

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<v Speaker 7>my commander is criminal? And there was like one main

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<v Speaker 7>commander who was the general of the whole state. The

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<v Speaker 7>next morning and a Monday, I called to the receptionist

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<v Speaker 7>of the general. I said to her, like, I have

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<v Speaker 7>some information about the case. I have some evidences. I

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<v Speaker 7>need to speak with the commander. And she said to me, oh, like,

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<v Speaker 7>you can pass me information, I'll give it to him.

0:27:20.880 --> 0:27:22.919
<v Speaker 7>I said, like, no, I need to meet him in person.

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<v Speaker 7>I cannot give this information to anyone apart from him.

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<v Speaker 7>She said, I will speak with him, and just basically,

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<v Speaker 7>like in a few minutes, she called me back. She

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<v Speaker 7>said when can you come in? And said I can

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<v Speaker 7>come in, like in thirty minutes. She said, he will

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<v Speaker 7>be waiting for you. I got dressed, I put the

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<v Speaker 7>files into USB. I took the USB. I took these

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<v Speaker 7>photos which Ash gave me. I was just thinking, if

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<v Speaker 7>I can't really trust but I wanted just to understand

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<v Speaker 7>if he knows anything or not, then if he's really

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<v Speaker 7>involved or not. So I came into the main building,

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<v Speaker 7>beautiful with the big columns, and I walked through their

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<v Speaker 7>security check. I said, I have an appointment with the general.

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<v Speaker 7>They let me in. I went upstairs to the second floor.

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<v Speaker 7>I came to the reception and there was a woman

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<v Speaker 7>about forty five years old, and she was having this

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<v Speaker 7>strict face. I called the military people do and she said,

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<v Speaker 7>he's waiting for you.

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<v Speaker 4>To die For continues in episode fifteen.

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<v Speaker 7>He told me that this is the end, this is

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<v Speaker 7>the last moment of your life. And when he told that,

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<v Speaker 7>he punched me from this side so hard that it

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<v Speaker 7>just crushed my bone.

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<v Speaker 4>To Die For is a production of Tenderfoot TV in

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<v Speaker 4>Executive producers are myself, Donald Albright, and Payne Lindsay. For

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