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Speaker 1: Hey Ren, thanks for having me back.

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Speaker 3: It's great to be here.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm excited to have you back. And you're

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Speaker 1: a heavy hitter, bro. There's just no joke about it. Okay,

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Speaker 1: New York Times bestselling author is not a joke. Oh

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Speaker 1: where did it just go? I had your whole little

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Speaker 1: it real quick. Held on one second here. So Brad

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Speaker 1: Thor has written Red Cell books based off of time

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Speaker 3: Correct, Brad, No, I am not allowed to write about

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Speaker 3: anything in the Red Cell. That is verboten. I call

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Speaker 3: everything that I developed for them stays there. But what

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Speaker 1: Right, So you go into a brainstorm session and come

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Speaker 1: So you did do that, yeah, and then those things

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Speaker 1: Do you ever see you're Scott meeting up with like

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Speaker 3: So we've both done that back and forth. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: so that that's the part that I should have cited

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Speaker 1: You guys already have a vision. Okay, people with visions

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Speaker 1: it's not even like raining anywhere else.

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Speaker 3: It's pretty special, pretty special.

433
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Speaker 1: We Scott to go meet Rad in the Redwoods.

434
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Speaker 3: There you go, there you go. That'd be a good scene.

435
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Speaker 3: Get gathers, here's your next mission. Or you've got some

436
00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,520
Speaker 3: intel that you've got to pass off to Harvath and

437
00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:26,239
Speaker 3: we do it out there.

438
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Speaker 1: That's right, that's right, that's right. It'll be his uber

439
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Speaker 1: driversfo Oh, that's awesome. Dude, you're awesome. I'm so glad

440
00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:38,520
Speaker 1: that you got back on the show. I'm happy that

441
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Speaker 1: you're still writing and that you're pumping out books and

442
00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:47,520
Speaker 1: you know when David David is your Yeah, yeah, I'm

443
00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,440
Speaker 1: just trying to give him a shout out. He's always

444
00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,400
Speaker 1: like Rad, let's get Brad on. I'm like, how can

445
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Speaker 1: we not Brad and Rad together? Sophomore?

446
00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,800
Speaker 3: I made you that joke before that. I've got my

447
00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,480
Speaker 3: buddies and to take that, take that line out of

448
00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:04,439
Speaker 3: the Jamie Kennedy. Uh, the Jamie Kennedy movie where he

449
00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,480
Speaker 3: talks about the mean streets of Malibu and his name

450
00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:16,520
Speaker 3: is Brad and he calls himself be Rad most Wanted.

451
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Speaker 3: That's the movie.

452
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Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks Jimmy, Jamie Kennedy for having a file in

453
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Speaker 1: my brain there had.

454
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Speaker 3: You that Malibu's most wanted be Rad?

455
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Speaker 1: Yo? What's up? Most wanted?

456
00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:26,440
Speaker 3: Yo?

457
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Speaker 1: What's up? Yo? Oh?

458
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Speaker 3: Man?

459
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Speaker 1: Okay, Scott's got to meet him too. We'll have an uber.

460
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Speaker 1: It'll be Scott Harveth, Jamie Kennedy and me and you. Yeah, right, exactly,

461
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Speaker 1: an executive version please, just because I'm six fives now,

462
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Speaker 1: are you signing the books that you see at the

463
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Speaker 1: airport somebody? Normally?

464
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Speaker 3: Yeah. When I go through an airport and I see

465
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Speaker 3: the books, I always stop and sign them. Yeah, all

466
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Speaker 3: the time. And that's kind of fun too. People pass

467
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Speaker 3: through the airport and they'll be a sticker on there

468
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Speaker 3: signed by the author.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh is that right? Do you do? The airport attendant?

470
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Speaker 1: So they like just like you're over there, like just

471
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Speaker 1: signing up.

472
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Speaker 3: I always ask their like, I always ask first. I

473
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Speaker 3: don't want to get tased on my way to catch

474
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Speaker 3: my flight. So uh, I always walk up. But that's me, right,

475
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 3: I'm the son of a marine. My mom was a

476
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Speaker 3: flight attendant raised in the Midwest, and so being polite

477
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 3: was a very big part of our upbringing his kids.

478
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Speaker 3: So I always introduced myself at the counter and I'm like, hey,

479
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Speaker 3: I'm here. I'm happy to sign anything you got. I

480
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Speaker 3: saw you've got. And first I make sure they have

481
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Speaker 3: the book right, and then I ask them. I'll bring

482
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Speaker 3: up a copy and show them, hey, here's the author photo.

483
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Speaker 3: It really is me, and then excuse me, can I

484
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Speaker 3: sign for you? And then oftentimes I'll have stickers that

485
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Speaker 3: they put on the book so that it pops that

486
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Speaker 3: it's signed by the author. So I don't just I

487
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Speaker 3: don't just kind of go in covert and sign. That's silly.

488
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Speaker 3: It's a It helps draw attention to the book, and

489
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Speaker 3: maybe somebody will buy your book as opposed to somebody

490
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Speaker 3: else's if they see that it's signed, because it has

491
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Speaker 3: a perceived increase in value.

492
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Speaker 1: So yeah, you just touched it, maybe just thump through

493
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Speaker 1: the pages. Maybe there's a bookmark in the middle that

494
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Speaker 1: you've signed. Go buy the books it, buy a book,

495
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Speaker 1: Go get a book. Go find a book, get a book,

496
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 1: buy a book, Barnes and Noble, local bookstores. You know,

497
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,920
Speaker 1: his books are also in very mom and pop bookstore.

498
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Speaker 1: So if there's one in your area and you don't

499
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:10,920
Speaker 1: even really go read that much, go to their store

500
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Speaker 1: and buy a book. Thank you, buy his book, thank you,

501
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 1: Go buy go, buy Brad's book, Brad Thor right here,

502
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,119
Speaker 1: who we're talking with, It goes a long way. And

503
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 1: also if you're out there and you do read the

504
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Speaker 1: book like electronically, I believe that leaving a review goes

505
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Speaker 1: a long way for the author. So whether you find

506
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Speaker 1: the book on Kindle or.

507
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Speaker 3: Audio, hardcover, softcover, reviews are very very helpful. And so

508
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,399
Speaker 3: now you have a choice about whether you actually just

509
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Speaker 3: rate it and you pick how many stars you want

510
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Speaker 3: to give it, and you can also write something. It

511
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,359
Speaker 3: used to be the had to write something for the

512
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Speaker 3: review to actually pop up online, but now you can

513
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Speaker 3: just if you're in a hurry, you can just give

514
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Speaker 3: it X amount of stars if you like it. So

515
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 3: that's really helpful. And you know, rad I always tell

516
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Speaker 3: people that that's like having a virtual suggestion box in

517
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Speaker 3: the lobby of my business. When when somebody takes the

518
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Speaker 3: time to write a review. And I don't work for

519
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Speaker 3: the publisher. I work for the readers. The people who

520
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 3: read my books are my employers. So I am very

521
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 3: interested to hear what they think. Did they like this,

522
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Speaker 3: did they not like something about the book? Do they

523
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Speaker 3: want to see more of something? All that kind of

524
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Speaker 3: stuff is really helpful because I'm constantly I'm a small

525
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Speaker 3: business person. I'm constantly trying to improve my product because

526
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Speaker 3: I want my employers, my readers, to be as happy

527
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Speaker 3: as possible.

528
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Speaker 1: So and a reader has their mind wrapped around the

529
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Speaker 1: book and the character and all the things that are

530
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Speaker 1: going on, and they may see something or think something,

531
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Speaker 1: and you can suggest that and and Brad might say, oh,

532
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Speaker 1: you know what, they were right. They should be in

533
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Speaker 1: an uber with that.

534
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Speaker 3: There you go, and Jamie Kennedy be rare.

535
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Speaker 1: All of a sudden, you're gonna get flooded. I could

536
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Speaker 1: fit fit fit it'll make it'll make it all work out. No,

537
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Speaker 1: I love books. I love books that are so intriguing

538
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,199
Speaker 1: that they can be turned into a movie or a

539
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,680
Speaker 1: TV show. In your brain. Yeah, where like you said,

540
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,399
Speaker 1: you don't have to go back and read the previous book.

541
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Speaker 1: It's cool, but it'll put you in a whole different

542
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,239
Speaker 1: realm because that book is its own entity, and then

543
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 1: you can follow the next book. In the next book.

544
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Speaker 1: Like you said about Bond, right, you don't have to

545
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Speaker 1: go back and watch the first James Bond to see

546
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 1: you know, there's multiple James Bond's as what right, So

547
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 1: it's like yeah, And that's my experience when I'm writing

548
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Speaker 1: the books.

549
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Speaker 3: It's very cinematic. So when I write each of these,

550
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 3: it plays out across the movie screen of my mind.

551
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Speaker 3: And one of the biggest things you have to do

552
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Speaker 3: is a thriller writer, is when you're coming up on

553
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Speaker 3: the next scene that you're writing, you have to think

554
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Speaker 3: about the first you look at the first four things

555
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 3: that pop into your head of what could happen, and

556
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Speaker 3: the rule is you throw all those out because if

557
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Speaker 3: you have four things that immediately jump into your head

558
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Speaker 3: as to what should happen next, probably the reader does too.

559
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Speaker 3: So if you're going to jettison those first four things

560
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 3: and toy play around with five, six, or seven that

561
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 3: jumps into your head, that's where you're going to be

562
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 3: successful because you're giving the readers something they didn't expect.

563
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 3: And that keeps them guessing, keeps them turning those pages,

564
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Speaker 3: keeps it. That's where the intrigue in the twists come from,

565
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 3: is jettison, getting rid of the first things that hop

566
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Speaker 3: into your mind and really trying to reach for things

567
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Speaker 3: that nobody saw coming, maybe not even you the author.

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Speaker 1: You know, I've read a book. It was really good.

569
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 1: It was about a navy seal he got stuck on

570
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 1: an aircraft carrier. There are all these different characters in it.

571
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Speaker 1: And every time I flipped a page to read this book,

572
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,159
Speaker 1: I was reading all these characters and I didn't realize

573
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Speaker 1: that I was introduced to all the characters that are

574
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Speaker 1: going to be involved in the Shenanigans. And I was

575
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 1: like reading more and reading more, and then all of

576
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,679
Speaker 1: a sudden, I was like, it was the doctor. I

577
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,239
Speaker 1: read about him already. Wait a second. Here. It just

578
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 1: pulls you in. You know, you're like, wait, he was

579
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Speaker 1: supposed to be a good guy. Wait, how did they

580
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Speaker 1: trick me?

581
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Speaker 3: Good good twists? That's hard to do. There's an old

582
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:46,919
Speaker 3: saying that says easy reading is damn hard writing, and

583
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 3: that's very very true.

584
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Speaker 1: See Sam Run, Yeah, No Kids, four pages Platinum. I

585
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 1: mean even like Jimmy Fallon writes children's stories and has

586
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 1: them like they're just like four or five pages long,

587
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 1: and they're just like these little opens the wash your hands,

588
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 1: wash your hands, dry your hands, close the book.

589
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not exactly what I'm talking about, easy reading

590
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 3: being damn hard writing. But yeah, so for you to

591
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 3: sit down with. Like I said, my books have very short,

592
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 3: cinematic chapters. It's what turns a lot of people back

593
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 3: onto reading is that the books are fun and they're fast,

594
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 3: and you really you close them a bit smarter. I

595
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 3: hope you learn a little bit about what's going on

596
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 3: both at home and abroad, which I slide in surreptitiously.

597
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 3: It's you know, I'm in the business of entertaining people,

598
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 3: not educating them. That's not my job. It's not supposed

599
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 3: to be a textbook. But if I do talk about

600
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 3: something that happens, you know, in the seal community or

601
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 3: in the anywhere else in the special operations community, find

602
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 3: some cool thing, and I slide it in the book

603
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 3: and now you know about it. That's fun for me

604
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 3: to do. And people tell me they love to read

605
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 3: my books with their phones out or their laptops open.

606
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,360
Speaker 3: Because they'll come across something they'll go, there's no way

607
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 3: that's real. Thor made that up, and then they google

608
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 3: it and they're like, oh my god, that's a real thing.

609
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 3: And so that's fun for me too, is to find

610
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 3: all these really cool real life things to put into

611
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Speaker 3: the books. And that's why I say what I do

612
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 3: is faction, not fiction, but faction where you don't know

613
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Speaker 3: where the facts end and the fiction begins.

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Speaker 1: Freaking Willy Walker over here. I let's tell you right now.

615
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Speaker 1: I love that. I love that. Now I'm just kind

616
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 1: of cruising over some of your things and I see that,

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Speaker 1: you know, brad Thorp's Shadow of a Doubt is out there,

618
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 1: but there's also a record.

619
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Speaker 3: So we did a playlist. So we did a playlist.

620
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Speaker 1: And were you kind of see like the record on

621
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Speaker 1: the brad Thorpe site. There's a record for Shadow of

622
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Speaker 1: a Doubt right now.

623
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Speaker 3: So that was just some some art that my designer

624
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 3: made up. If you go to my website bradthor dot com.

625
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 3: I picked a bunch of music that was either referenced

626
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 3: in the book or in keeping with kind of the

627
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 3: mood of the book, and in fact, a big op

628
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 3: happened in a certain part of the south of France,

629
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 3: and I picked this place because it's really cool. I

630
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 3: didn't know a lot about it, and as I was

631
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 3: doing the research, I found out that's where the Rolling Stones,

632
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 3: when they all had these massive drug problems and we

633
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 3: were being hounded by the press and had were like

634
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 3: teetering on the edge of bankruptcy, they went down to

635
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 3: this little peninsula in the south of France to record

636
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 3: Exile on Main Street. And so I put that in

637
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Speaker 3: on that Spotify playlist that we did for a Shadow

638
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 3: of Doubt because my readers really like that. They love

639
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 3: to kind of listen to the music, get in the

640
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 3: mood for the new book, and it's just kind of

641
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 3: a fun. That's why I have the website, is to

642
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 3: do extra stuff for the readers that's fun for them.

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Speaker 1: I'm blown away. I'm blown away that there's a record

644
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Speaker 1: to go along. So you have a record of Shadow

645
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: of a Doubt for your book that goes along with

646
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Speaker 1: the book.

647
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Speaker 3: Now I have a Spotify playlist that record. It's not

648
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Speaker 3: an actual record, that's just the designer created that as

649
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 3: an image to have. So if you click on that,

650
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 3: it takes you to a Spotify playlist, so there isn't

651
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 3: a piece of mind. I mean that would be really cool,

652
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 3: but I'd have to do royalties out to all these people,

653
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 3: right if I did a compilation, Spotify doesn't cost me

654
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 3: a dime. So it's just it's just fun. But it

655
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Speaker 3: looks like a real record, doesn't it.

656
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Speaker 1: I Mean I was, well, my family were record obsessed.

657
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 1: My kids love records.

658
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, so do we. I mean we really think vinyl

659
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 3: is cool. So when my designer came back with that,

660
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 3: it's like that that album is sitting on red shag

661
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 3: carpeting in like a wood panel basement.

662
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 1: I mean he.

663
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 3: Captured kind of this seventies vibe with that bro, which

664
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 3: is what I wanted to do with the with the

665
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Speaker 3: music that was covered in there. So it's just kind

666
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Speaker 3: of it's yeah, there you go.

667
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's leg that's fine. I mean yeah, Braaththor dot

668
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 1: com has what we're talking about. If you go check

669
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Speaker 1: out Bradthor dot com, you'll see really clean, uh really

670
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: clean website on the phone too, Like it's almost like

671
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 1: it's just straight to app you know, like you know,

672
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: looking at your scrolling on it, it's very easy, you know,

673
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Speaker 1: dead Fall. Uh.

674
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 3: Last summer's book, dead Fall, Yeah.

675
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: Yep, dead Fall, Brad Thorne dead Fault. In fact, now

676
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: that I see Dead Fault, it is probably the newer

677
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: book coming out that I saw.

678
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 3: Oh you saw the paperback edition or the trade paper back?

679
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, because it was red. Oh okay, yeah yeah,

680
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 1: I said Brad Thorne red on the book like wait, wait, wait,

681
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: I swear it was Okay.

682
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 3: Well, listen, I'm just thrilled you saw Brad Thor book

683
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 3: at a major airport books store. That's pretty good to

684
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 3: be twenty four books total into my career and I'm

685
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 3: still in the instill in the bookstores. So I'm thrilled.

686
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 3: I'll take whatever it was you saw, Red.

687
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: I'm happy International Airport homie. I'll tell you right now. Yeah, No,

688
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 1: it's great. Yeah, Brad Thor, Shadow of a Doubt. The

689
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: book will be coming out August sixth, so ye pick

690
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: it up wherever you want to pick it up, and

691
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: you can download it, but I would say go buy

692
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: it from the local bookstore if it's available at their store. Now, Brad,

693
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: when are you gonna, like, you know, bring this to

694
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Speaker 1: the TV.

695
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 3: Screen so we can just bag questions? So we just

696
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 3: announced our television program a couple of months ago. So

697
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 3: we've got an awesome team pulled together. We got an

698
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 3: A plus team, so it can be some people get

699
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 3: very lucky and get a show right out of the gate.

700
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 3: Sometimes people get a lot of options, which is essentially

701
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 3: renting with the option to buy at at different at

702
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 3: different studios. So what we had happened was, let me

703
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 3: see you get my camera went out of focus all

704
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 3: of a sudden. Sometimes I bring back. Yeah, I don't

705
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 3: know what's going on with that. It's a little weird.

706
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: There we go.

707
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 3: So we've got this awesome team pulled together. So we've

708
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:41,959
Speaker 3: got Steve Lightfoot who wrote The Punisher, so both seasons

709
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 3: of The Punisher with John Burnhal that were on Netflix.

710
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 3: He's our writer. He's fantastic. We've got Chance Dahlski, the

711
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 3: director of the John Wick movies, as the director, so

712
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 3: there'll be plenty ofhead shots. And then we've got Howard Gordon,

713
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 3: who was the force behind twenty four and Homeland as

714
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 3: the executive producer. So yeah, we're it's Sony right now.

715
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 3: So Sony is our is our studio with this, and

716
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 3: we're doing a television series and we will know by

717
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 3: we're supposed to know by the by Christmas where it's

718
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 3: gonna it's gonna air. So we don't know if that's Netflix,

719
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 3: we don't know if it's Amazon Prime, Apple. Obviously, Howard

720
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 3: Gordon did Homeland at HBO, so Homeland was it HBO

721
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 3: or Showtime? I should know that and I'm drawing a blank.

722
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 3: But anyway, so we've got from now to the end

723
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Speaker 3: of the year to figure out where Sony's gonna place it.

724
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 3: But yeah, so we're we're doing a TV series with

725
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 3: a just an unbelievable powerhouse, a list team.

726
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: So we haven't picked an actor, everybody, the whole creative

727
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 1: force is there.

728
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 3: And then once we place it, I think the next

729
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 3: step is then we try to figure out who the

730
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 3: lead is gonna be. I think I'm looking at yeah, yeah, yeah,

731
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 3: I wish listen. I asked them rad if I could

732
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 3: be in it, and their joke was They're like, yeah,

733
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 3: you can be in it. I'm like, Stephen King is

734
00:33:58,160 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 3: in everything. I'm like, I got to be able to

735
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 3: had a role, and they're like, yeah, we know.

736
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 1: You want to be on.

737
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 3: The front of a stack, kicking in the door, going

738
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 3: put the weapon down, put the weapon down, they said,

739
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 3: but it could be you standing there with the mop

740
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 3: going sorry, sir, office is closed still tomorrow morning.

741
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.

742
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 3: So I don't know what they'll do for me, but

743
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 3: I was like, guys, I want to have at least

744
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 3: one line in this thing, or an appearance like Hitchcock

745
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 3: used to show up in all his movies.

746
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: You should, you should? You should? You should? Just like

747
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:24,439
Speaker 1: or like stan Lee.

748
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, stan Lee's and yeah.

749
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Speaker 1: Bro, He's in every single thing. And even before he

750
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 1: knew he was passing, they filmed like five innings for

751
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 1: five of the movies.

752
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 3: That's awesome. I just don't want the half a second

753
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 3: that Jimmy Buffett got in Jurassic Park or Jurassic World.

754
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:39,879
Speaker 3: It's like, if you blink, you miss it. He's got

755
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 3: two Margarita's and he's running away from like the pterodactyls

756
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,280
Speaker 3: or whatever. Yeah, so I want I'd love to have something.

757
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 3: So we'll see. It all comes down to the director.

758
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 3: But he's he's awesome. He's super super cool. He's one

759
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 3: of the coolest dudes I've ever met. He's an ex stuntman.

760
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 3: He's really awesome, super smart and very creative. And right

761
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 3: now he's re doing the movie Highlander. That Christophe the

762
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 3: only one. So he's rea currently as we're sitting here

763
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 3: recording this podcast, he's doing Highlander. So he's gonna come

764
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 3: off Highlander and we'll go to Harvest.

765
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,479
Speaker 1: So awesome, such an awesome movie. First Highlander. It's hard

766
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: because Queen Queen. As soon as we're like, they read

767
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: the whole soundtrack.

768
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a great Freddie mur Christoph Lambert was

769
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 3: the French actor who starred in it alongside Sean Ronnery. Yeah,

770
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 3: that's very exciting for the reboot.

771
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: Dude, that's gonna be legit. Yeah, because there could be

772
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: only one. And also funny note is that the guy

773
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: that has the safety pins on his neck, on his neck,

774
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,879
Speaker 1: the main you know, the bad guy that's looking for

775
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 1: you know, Highlander. He's Spongebobs. He's Krusty Krabs. No, he's

776
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: is he only Spongebobby boy? That boy he's from shaw

777
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 1: Sake Redeption. What's his name? Oh my gosh, it's blowing

778
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: me away. His name is Clancy right, I can't remember.

779
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: I had no idea that the guy did the voice

780
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: of the SpongeBob. Better to burn out the Fatal Way.

781
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, act yeah, that's it.

782
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: Oh that's mister Krast.

783
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 3: I know that guy. Now, he does have a very

784
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 3: distinct voice. Did he play one of the guards in Shawshank?

785
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: Is that what he did? Yeah? He was the Big Garden.

786
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right. I can I picture him from Highlander

787
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 3: and I can picture him from shaw Shank.

788
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, better to burn out than the Fatal Way.

789
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: He's in the church.

790
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 3: You have given me pop culture references. Now I'm not

791
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 3: better educated in the realm of pop culture. Thanks to you,

792
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 3: Red Well.

793
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 1: I love that movie. Did that Highland of that movie?

794
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: And then just you know, boy, I'm forty six years old.

795
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 1: Yeah still, you know what was it?

796
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 3: That was like early eighties? I think, yeah, that was classic.

797
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 3: A classic movie is so badass.

798
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 1: I can't wait for your books to become something that

799
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 1: we can watch and see what the director and everybody

800
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 1: puts together for a vision that we have in our head.

801
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: I remember my dad went and read Hunt for October.

802
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 1: It was a very popular. Fancy Tom Clancy came out

803
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: on the movie. Yep, we went and watched it right away.

804
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: I remember we went to the theater and my dad left.

805
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: I was like did you like it? I loved it.

806
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 1: I didn't read the book. He read the book. He's like, yeah,

807
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 1: it was. I was like, what do you mean it was?

808
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 3: It's different, right, they have. And that's one of the

809
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,879
Speaker 3: things that I understand going into this is that there's

810
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 3: gonna be things they can't do word for word, page

811
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,280
Speaker 3: for page out of the book. It's just it can't happen.

812
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 3: There's multiple reasons why they have to change things. But

813
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 3: what these guys said was is they said, that's why

814
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 3: we're making you a writer on this, Brad, is so

815
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 3: that if we do have to change, you can do

816
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 3: it in such a way that you can go to

817
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 3: your readers and say, okay, it is based on the

818
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 3: first season of shows is based on this book. We

819
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 3: made a couple of changes, but there's actually a we

820
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,439
Speaker 3: in it. I was there in the room for every

821
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 3: single change, and I actually think these changes are good.

822
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 3: Let's say right, because I'm not going to say, hey,

823
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 3: that's cool. If it's a sucky change, I'm going to say, guys,

824
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 3: you can't change it like this. All those guys jumped

825
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 3: on the helicopter with MP five's you know three days ago,

826
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 3: there's no way they picked up a HK four to

827
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 3: sixteen in the middle of downtown Philadelphia. That's not the

828
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 3: way that's going to work. So but if you need

829
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 3: them to have an HK four sixteen for whatever reason

830
00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 3: further down along the line, let's make sense of that

831
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 3: right now kind of a thing. So you'll have a

832
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 3: continuity expert on it that their job is to make

833
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 3: sure that, like if there's a bite out of the

834
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,720
Speaker 3: sandwich in this scene, it's still out of the sandwich

835
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 3: in the next scene. But I created this universe, so

836
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 3: I can't tell them how to make the move or

837
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 3: the TV series, but I can be there to at

838
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 3: least say, guys, just understand that if you make this

839
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 3: change here, this is what it affects downstream. So I

840
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 3: want to make sure that any of that kind of

841
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 3: stuff is done in such a way that we keep

842
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 3: the most important people happy in this which which are

843
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 3: the readers. Because that's the hope. That's what Amazon and

844
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 3: Netflix and everybody else hopes that if they, if they

845
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 3: create the Harvest series, if they spend the money to

846
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 3: bring it to life, that my fans, my readers will

847
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 3: want to come to see it. And I'm cool with that.

848
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 3: But we have to keep those people in the number

849
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 3: one in the pole position. Everything we have to do,

850
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 3: everything we do has got to be in service of

851
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 3: a great production. But we have to keep in mind

852
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 3: we can't just call it harved and it has nothing

853
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 3: to do with the books, right, you know, So you

854
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 3: got to WA's it's hyprope. It's a high wire act. Basically,

855
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 3: rad keep everybody happy. That's a hard thing to do.

856
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: It is because you really want to keep the people

857
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: on the front seat happy, which is the reader aiming.

858
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 1: You know, you're really just writing as an entertainer. And

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Speaker 1: then you know, and it's good that you're on board.

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Speaker 1: So any pre production production, post production, it's like you'res like, hey,

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Speaker 1: they would have gone this way, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Way exactly. You know, because I'm gonna still write books, right,

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00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 3: these people are still going to be my bosses. We

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Speaker 3: get a season, hopefully we get another season and get three, four, five, six, seven,

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Speaker 3: what are But I'm still going to write a book

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Speaker 3: a year. These are still the most important people in

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Speaker 3: the world to me. I will love every television viewer

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Speaker 3: we get that's great, But I'm still going to be

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Speaker 3: an author and i still want to write books. And

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Speaker 3: those people have given me an incredible life. I send

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Speaker 3: my kids to college, they had braces, all this kind

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00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 3: of stuff because of the readers. So the readers will

873
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Speaker 3: always be the VIP for me. Those are always going

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Speaker 3: to be the people I'm most focused on, and I

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Speaker 3: want to keep happy.

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Speaker 1: I love that. I love that, And you know what,

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Speaker 1: I can't get mad at you having kids with braces,

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Speaker 1: you know, And I love the respect that you have

879
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: for saying such a thing of you know, your you

880
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: know you respect where your fans are spending their money.

881
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Speaker 1: They're coming to you, they're purchasing your stuff, and they're saying,

882
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Speaker 1: we appreciate your writing. I mean, bro, that's got to

883
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Speaker 1: be really cool to go down as an American author.

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Speaker 3: It is really cool. And they are spending their money

885
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 3: with me. And the one thing that's great about money

886
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 3: is you can make more of it. Your time, though,

887
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 3: is something that's finite that you cannot make more of.

888
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 3: So if you're going to read a Brad Thorpe book,

889
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Speaker 3: it is incumbent upon me to give you the best,

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Speaker 3: most exciting, most heart thumping adventure I can. And if

891
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 3: you're going to come and watch a TV series that

892
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 3: has my name on it. It is also incumbent upon

893
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Speaker 3: me to give you the best, most high adrenaline, most

894
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 3: action packed, most intriguing, most the most interesting adventure I'm

895
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Speaker 3: capable of giving you. So that's the son of the

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Speaker 3: United States Marine and me is always excelled. Never settle, never,

897
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Speaker 3: never settle for mediocrity. Never never settle for the way

898
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Speaker 3: things were yesterday. It's keep pushing forward, keep pushing forward,

899
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Speaker 3: keep getting better.

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Speaker 1: Well, I love that, you know I usually go longer

901
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: on my podcast, but I think we've kind of just

902
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 1: kind of touch based on everything that we need to hear.

903
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: I've had your time for forty five minutes today, and

904
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 1: I know you're very busy, and there's other airports that

905
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Speaker 1: you have to go and sign books in bro And

906
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:24,839
Speaker 1: are you going to be doing the whole book tour

907
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 1: when we'll be able to catch you before I let

908
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Speaker 1: you go. We'll be able to catch you, like you know,

909
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Speaker 1: at some spots, yes, around the count.

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Speaker 3: So I'm doing I'm doing a for cities around the

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Speaker 3: country starting first week of August, and I got the

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Speaker 3: whole tour up at bradthor dot com so you can

913
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Speaker 3: see the cities where I'm gonna be when I'm gonna

914
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Speaker 3: be there, and if you if you get your orders in,

915
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Speaker 3: I'm still doing personalized copies of the books. So if

916
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Speaker 3: you're if you want to get a signed personalized copy,

917
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Speaker 3: there's information on Bradthor dot com on how to do

918
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Speaker 3: that too.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So what we have is we have Bradthor dot com,

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Speaker 1: all right, and that's going to be down belows. You

921
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: can click on it. If you've followed us on softwarep

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00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 1: dot com or any of our YouTube or Spotify, go

923
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Speaker 1: ahead and click on Bradthorne dot com. Make sure you

924
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: check out his book Shadow of a Doubt. It is

925
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 1: number one already. Okay, just know it, all right. And

926
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Speaker 1: when you go to the airport, if you happen to

927
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Speaker 1: be fortunate enough to be able to fly somewhere in

928
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Speaker 1: your lifetime, check the airport's bookstore and see if an

929
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: author that you love has a book, because you can

930
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: grab it and read that on a plane and not

931
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 1: worry about logging onto Wi Fi, trying to get your

932
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 1: phone to any of that. Nothing. It's all just you

933
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: can just read your book. They call it raw dogging

934
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Speaker 1: it on a flight.

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Speaker 3: Thanks man, So do I appreciate you having me on

936
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Speaker 3: the show and sharing me with your fantastic audience. You're

937
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 3: always very kind to me every year.

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Speaker 1: Rad.

939
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Speaker 3: I really appreciate you.

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00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 1: Thank you for being repeat, thank you for writing books.

941
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Speaker 1: Thanks for making me smarter, allowing me to read things

942
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 1: that are cool, that are interesting that I want to read. Right.

943
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: It's really true. It's like, how do you get someone

944
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 1: to read something right? They got to want to like

945
00:42:58,400 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 1: to read it, and then once you start reading, you turn,

946
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: they turn the page, You turn the page, and then

947
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: there's a twist. That's what you do, Bro. And I

948
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 1: don't want to give away too much more, but go

949
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Speaker 1: check out all of his books right twenty three harveth books.

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00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 1: Go check them out. And Brad Thor, I keep wanting

951
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: to talk to you, but I'm gonna let you go

952
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: and say thank you so much for being on soft

953
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 1: rep and this will be uh just a pleasure to

954
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 1: have you back again. Check out our merch store, check

955
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: out our book club at soft reap dot com, Ford

956
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Speaker 1: slash Book hyphen Club. And thanks to Brandon Webb who

957
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 1: also is an author and allows me to be his

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Speaker 1: audible guy.

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00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 3: I appreciate you awesome great writer as well.

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Speaker 1: Great writer as well well. Thank you, Brad. Thanks to

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Speaker 1: your father, United States Marine Corps. All right, simpify to

962
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Speaker 1: him always and forever. What's his name, Brad Thorpe, Sr.

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00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 1: Brad Thorpe Senior is immortalized on this podcast. So thank

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Speaker 1: you so much, sir, and you have a nice day.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Brad, you too.

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Speaker 1: Okay, cheers, we're out peace.

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Speaker 3: Use them.

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Speaker 2: Listening to self red Radio