1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:01,000 Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody. 2 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 2: Tuesday edition of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show 3 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 2: kicks off right now. We are stacked today. Got to 4 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 2: set the agenda for you early. Okay, We got Senator 5 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 2: Ram Paul who is at this peering up on Capitol 6 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 2: Hill where Secret Service. They're now acting Secret Service Director 7 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 2: after the forced resignation of the previous one, is trying 8 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 2: to give some answers. 9 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: Not a fun job to have. 10 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 2: I'll just say it, because the more we find out, 11 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 2: the more just stunningly incompetent. And I know some people 12 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 2: say they think it's even more nefarious than that, but 13 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 2: I'm just saying the incompetence. And this is from someone 14 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 2: who has spent time in a federal national security agency 15 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 2: and understands the mistakes that can be made. Secret Service 16 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 2: mistakes here are it's hard to believe that they really 17 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 2: happened the way that they did. I will say that 18 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 2: it is hard to believe that they really happen. We 19 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 2: will get into that. We also have our friend Joe 20 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 2: Contra Third Hours got a new book out. Joe's always 21 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 2: a lot of fun and we'll talk to him about 22 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 2: the political state of play. So we got more on 23 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 2: the Secret Service and what we found out about the 24 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: security failures they're coming up. 25 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: The shooters social media. 26 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 2: Has been found at least one account they say has 27 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 2: been found online. 28 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: So unlike the. 29 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 2: Trans mass murderer of children in Tennessee, I'm a feeling 30 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 2: we're going to know more about this individual soon, because 31 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 2: you know they're not going to hide it through court 32 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 2: order or anything like that. Some polls to pay attention to. 33 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 2: Clay and I were talking right before about what's going 34 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:39,559 Speaker 2: on in Pennsylvania. 35 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 1: Right now, they are all in on this. 36 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 2: Warp speed Kamala campaign, perhaps ludicrous speed for the space 37 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 2: balls fans. 38 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 3: It is. 39 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,639 Speaker 2: A three month presidential campaign, really, is what you're seeing, 40 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 2: because we're basically in August, so August, September, October and 41 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 2: vote ninety days to convince the country that Kamala Harris 42 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 2: is the leader that we need in this moment, which 43 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 2: I can't even really say without starting to chuckle a 44 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 2: little bit, but here's what we have to take seriously. 45 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,959 Speaker 2: All the Democrats are now mobilized and on the same page. 46 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 2: We had a summer of fractured Democrats because of the 47 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 2: Biden fiasco of the debate. They didn't put the full 48 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 2: force of the apparatus behind Joe Biden. Now they are 49 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 2: absolutely doing so. And then some with Kamala Harris, they 50 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 2: are playing the gender card, the race card. 51 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: All the cards and all. 52 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 2: The dei apparatus that they can utilize. 53 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: Here, Clay, they're doing it. 54 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 2: And we've got a couple of things groups that have emerged, 55 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,399 Speaker 2: and I think they're official. There was a White Dudes 56 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 2: for Kamala group that had a conference call yesterday, which 57 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 2: we'll get to, and also a White Women for Kamala group. 58 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 2: Let's start with White Dudes for Kamala includes Joseph Gordon Levitt. 59 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 2: I think the actor what's Jem Bridges an excellent actor. 60 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 2: But you know, unfortunately this I hate this. Why can't 61 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 2: I know why? I asked the question, correcckly. So many 62 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,519 Speaker 2: of these great actors are communist morons and they're just 63 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 2: good at one thing, and they're good at acting, but 64 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 2: they don't understand the. 65 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 1: Reality of the world we live in. 66 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 2: But Governor Tim Waltz, who is very important in the 67 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 2: state of Minnesota because Democrats think that they can defend 68 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 2: that one, I think pretty easily. Given Waltz sitting where 69 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 2: he does in the state. He was on the white 70 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 2: Dudes for Kamala call. That's what By the way, that 71 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 2: is what they call it. I want to be clear, 72 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 2: I'm not like mocking it by calling it the white 73 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 2: Dudes for Kamala. That is their self description. Here's the 74 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 2: governor of Minnesota explaining what their mission is. 75 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 3: Here's the great news. How often one hundred days you 76 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 3: get to change the tra directory of the world. How 77 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 3: often one hundred days do you get to do something 78 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 3: that's going to impact generations to and Hoffen in the world. 79 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 3: Do you make that bastard wake up afterwards and know 80 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 3: that a black woman kick his ass and send him 81 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 3: on the road, and you know that's something that guy's 82 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 3: going to have to live with for the rest of 83 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 3: his life. 84 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: Clay, this is the Kamala. 85 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 2: The Kamala for President campaign is essentially going to turn 86 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 2: into a blitz kreg of nonsense. It's going to be 87 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 2: all in on telling us things that are not true 88 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 2: as fast as they can. 89 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 4: I think it's actually the most authentic version of the 90 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 4: Democrat Party right now because it's all based on identity politics. 91 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 4: Nothing matters except what you look like. They had white 92 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 4: women for Kamala, Black women for Kamala, black men for Kamala, 93 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 4: white men for Kamala, all specific race based events that 94 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 4: are designed to define yourself by your identity politics and 95 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 4: on some level coming out of COVID, I think the 96 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 4: most clarifying election we could have had was Ron DeSantis 97 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 4: against Gavin Newsom. 98 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: We talked about that. 99 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 4: They're the two biggest states that adopted the most diametrically 100 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 4: opposed leadership. DeSantis was right on everything, Gavin Newsom was 101 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 4: wrong on everything. We may wait till twenty eight to 102 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 4: see a race like this, but right now what we have, 103 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 4: which would not have occurred if Joe Biden were still 104 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 4: at the top of the ticket, is a direct identity 105 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 4: politics election. Now, Joe Biden hinted at this during his 106 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:34,119 Speaker 4: twenty twenty campaign, sometimes quite explicitly, like when he said 107 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 4: if you're not voting for me, you ain't black, when 108 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 4: he said Trump will put you back in chains. All 109 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 4: of those things are direct calls to identity politics. But 110 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 4: Democrats in twenty twenty actually wanted to have an unthreatening 111 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 4: old white guy that they selected to run against Trump 112 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 4: because they thought people in the Midwest would respond better 113 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 4: to Scranton Joe Biden than they would have to Bernie 114 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 4: Sanders or Kamala Harris or Elizabeth Warren or any of 115 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 4: the other. And they were right right, unfortunately, and now 116 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 4: that mask is off, that old white grandpa mask that 117 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 4: they put on Joe Biden, which was never an accurate fit, 118 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 4: but they were able to characterize him that way. Now 119 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 4: it is entirely identity politics based, and you will see 120 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 4: I think, nakedly aggressively race based demagoguery in this race 121 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 4: to a level that we haven't seen in a very 122 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 4: long time. And I think this is important, Buck, because 123 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 4: if you go back, and I know it seems like 124 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 4: ancient history now, but if you go back to Obama 125 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 4: two thousand and eight, when they elected Obama two thousand 126 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 4: and eight, when the country did, which is, by the way, 127 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 4: I think the only election in the twenty first century 128 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 4: that nobody fought right. People were like, Obama beat McCain. 129 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 4: Whatever you'd think of politics, I think everybody acknowledged that election, 130 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 4: whereas in every other election there have been people saying 131 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 4: it was stolen, cheated both directions, right, So Obama two 132 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 4: thousand and eight actually was a America is so awesome 133 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 4: that my candidacy is possible. It was Bill Clinton nineteen 134 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 4: ninety two, like the Man from Hope. It was Ronald 135 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 4: Reagan nineteen eighty. Obama two thousand and eight had more 136 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 4: in common with those two campaigns than anything else. By 137 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 4: twenty twelve, it was nakedly partisan identity politics politics. To 138 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 4: get him relm started under Obama, it's worth remembering to 139 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 4: get him reelected. Certainly, Hillary in twenty sixteen was I'm 140 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 4: a woman. It's time to bust the glass ceiling. Let's 141 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 4: send a message about how inclusive America can be. By 142 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 4: Hillary twenty sixteen, it was one hundred percent identity politics. 143 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 4: They actually vanished on identity politics because of COVID, I 144 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 4: think on some level, and just put in an old 145 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 4: white guy and tried to say, oh, he's Scranton Joe, 146 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 4: He's you know, he's the guy who will return normalcy. 147 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 4: Now we're right back to an even more aggressive version 148 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 4: of identity politics with Kamala Right. 149 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: It's a bit like what was the after Warren G. 150 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 2: Harding passed away when he was in office and Calvin 151 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 2: Coolidge took over. I think the whole premise was just 152 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 2: keep things normal. You know, it was just we're not 153 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 2: gonna do anything. We're not gonna we're not gonna shake 154 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 2: things up. And with Biden, it was, Hey, this guy's 155 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 2: been in politics forever, nobody really knows what he stands for, 156 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 2: but you know, things are scary out there, and so 157 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,559 Speaker 2: we'll have a guy that will just not only will 158 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 2: he make things normal, he'll bring the country together. 159 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: It was all a total lie. 160 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 2: I mean, I would offer that a lot of the 161 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 2: central promise of Obamaism from two thousand and eight was 162 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 2: also a total lie, as we saw over the of 163 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 2: the following eight years. But in this case it's interesting 164 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 2: Clay because there's there's the lack of subtlety on the 165 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:55,079 Speaker 2: media's part to try to promote these narratives that generally 166 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:56,839 Speaker 2: and then this is a little secret from the from 167 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 2: the radio business or podcast listening or anything. Right, frequency 168 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 2: is its own power. This is true, and a lot 169 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 2: it's true in basic advertising on TV. You see commercials 170 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 2: on TV and you're like, ah, I'm not gonna go 171 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 2: buy that particular type of you know, drain cleaner, like, 172 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 2: but if you see it ten times, all of a sudden, 173 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 2: you're in the store and you're. 174 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,319 Speaker 1: Like you know what, the drain cleaner. That seems like 175 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: a pretty good deal. I'm gonna try that one out, you know. Yep. 176 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:23,439 Speaker 2: And what you have with the Democrats now in politics 177 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 2: is generally in an an election year, they can rely 178 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 2: on the flood the zone strategy on messaging over a 179 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 2: period of time, and that gives them a tremendous advantage 180 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 2: the way that CBS News is going to cover things, 181 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 2: the way that the New York Times, the La Times, 182 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 2: the Miami Herald, the Chicago Tribune, and et cetera, et cetera. 183 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 2: Because they have had a candidate switch so late later 184 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 2: than this has ever happened before. It's worth noting this 185 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 2: is all totally unprecedented. They are having to compact that 186 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 2: entire propaganda strategy into a ninety day period. So, I mean, 187 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 2: when you're totally right, this is about identity politics. 188 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,439 Speaker 1: But it's not going to be a. 189 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,079 Speaker 2: Little story here, a little story there, drawing people along 190 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 2: to hope. But they slowly persuade them. It's just like JD. 191 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 2: Vance is so racist. I mean, they're just coming out 192 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:16,559 Speaker 2: and saying crazy stuff. We even have you you want 193 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 2: to play this clip. I saw you tweeted this one 194 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 2: out Molly jung Fast, who is like a left wing 195 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 2: loon journalist type on MSNBC. She says that jd Vance 196 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 2: only wants white babies in America. 197 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: Play this clip. 198 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 5: That's for there more and more Americans choosing not to 199 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 5: have kids, which again emphasizes why jd Vance's comments about 200 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 5: childless Americans childless caladies could be so politically damaging. 201 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 6: Well, so, what's interesting is this is this natalism that 202 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 6: comes from an authoritarian playbook, right, that there need to 203 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 6: be more white children. 204 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 1: Right, that's the idea that there's you. 205 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 6: Know, this is about great replacement theory racism, right, this 206 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 6: is what this is. So don't misunderstand it. For him 207 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 6: wanting more children, he wants a certain kind of you know, 208 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 6: racist thing. 209 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 2: Jd Vance only wants white babies. Clay, as you pointed 210 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 2: out in your there's a problem with this, ye, this 211 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 2: premise she has. Why don't you tell everybody with the 212 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 2: problem of this. 213 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 4: His kids are mixed race, and look, the idea is 214 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 4: so ridiculous of. 215 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: Just that makes them brown under left wing theory. 216 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 2: Just to be very clear, like my little nephew is 217 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 2: half half brown, therefore he qualifies as brown. 218 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 4: I would submit to you that choosing to have a 219 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:33,199 Speaker 4: spouse who is a minority and having, under these definitions 220 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 4: minority children three of them would be pretty strong evidence 221 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 4: that JD Vance doesn't just want white babies, and that 222 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 4: if you were remotely honest as a television network when 223 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 4: that is said, you would push back and say, well, 224 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:55,959 Speaker 4: to be fair, jd Vance himself actually has mixed race kids. 225 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,199 Speaker 2: Did you see the one of these left wing journalists 226 00:11:58,240 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 2: And this is this is the other part of this 227 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 2: just to be because they're having to speed this up, 228 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 2: and because they've just turned the dial up to eleven 229 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 2: on the propaganda, the EDOC is going to be more 230 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 2: free flowing. Because there was some left winger who came 231 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 2: after JD Vance's wife saying, well, you know, why don't 232 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 2: she should support all the immigrants like her? And some 233 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 2: people are like, yes, the immigrant who was born in 234 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,839 Speaker 2: California to two US citizen parents. By the way, the 235 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 2: argument is a stupid one anyway, But they don't even 236 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 2: know the basic facts because they're just trying to manufacture 237 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 2: a perception right off the. 238 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 4: Bat here and also just not even basic research. There 239 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 4: are lots of ways that you can attack jd. 240 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: Vance. 241 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 4: I think I would love to know whether she knows 242 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 4: this and just lied and didn't care. But the network, 243 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 4: to me, has an obligation as the host to point 244 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 4: back and say, well, you know, he does have three 245 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 4: mixed race kids. And by the way, I think I 246 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 4: can speak for JD on this. I think what he 247 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 4: would certainly say is we want more babies born in 248 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 4: America to American citizens. I mean, like, I can't believe 249 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 4: this is considered controversial. I sit around, you know, we 250 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 4: have to hear about climate change and exidential threats to 251 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:14,079 Speaker 4: the world. If you look at population trends, Japan's population 252 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 4: is collapsing, China's population is collapsing, Italy's population is collapsing. 253 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: If you look at. 254 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 4: The trends right now in the twenty first century, we 255 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 4: may have already peaked at global population. There is a 256 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 4: projection by the end of this century that the world 257 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,719 Speaker 4: population will be half of what it is now. And 258 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 4: once you start, that's not gonna happen. Once you start 259 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 4: to decline in population, once the average woman doesn't have 260 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:46,839 Speaker 4: two point one children, population collapses in a hurry, like 261 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 4: what's happening in China right now. 262 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you need you need a you know, you 263 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: need a. 264 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 2: New generation of humanity in order to continue all of 265 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 2: the prosperity and the dances and the research that we 266 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 2: already have, right, I mean, at some level, I know 267 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 2: people say, well, AI will kick in and everybody will 268 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 2: just be served by what was that show the jetson? 269 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 1: I just feel like it was a great show, which. 270 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 4: Is said in the modern day, by the way, we 271 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 4: were all supposed to be flying around in air cars 272 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 4: by now. 273 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 2: But I do think that that if you were to 274 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 2: look at the countries that have particularly strong future, it 275 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 2: also look it's important for national defense, important for a 276 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 2: whole range of reasons. 277 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: But jd vance advocating for families. 278 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 2: The fact that advocating to have families is a controversial 279 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 2: point in America shows you, I think where the Democrat 280 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 2: Party is right now. It's like we're all supposed to 281 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 2: be in the matrix before we're red pilled, kept in 282 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 2: some pink sludge and just sort of sucked of our 283 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 2: energy to have the apparatus continue to rule over us. 284 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 4: We have ever believed there would be a political attack 285 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 4: on an American political candidate for saying that he wants 286 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 4: everybody to have more babies. I mean, yeah, Democrats are 287 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 4: the part of stopping a million babies a year from 288 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 4: being bored through abortion. 289 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: So they're actually but. 290 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 4: They're even more explicit on it now, like it's not 291 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 4: even just the abortion. It's like, hey, like this it's 292 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 4: racist and anti anti What I mean this is I 293 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 4: can't even believe that this is now the argument that 294 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 4: jd Vance wants too many babies to be You want 295 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 4: to see democrats heads really explode start to they use 296 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 4: they use the disparate impact formulation to undermine so many 297 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 4: other wise legitimate laws or ideas. 298 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 2: They should look at the disparate impact numbers in the 299 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 2: abortion industry. Yeah, for who is overwhelmingly being aborted and 300 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 2: what those numbers are, And then you have to wonder, 301 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 2: why do they not care about this more. 302 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 4: By the way, there is testimony going on right now 303 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 4: as we are speaking to you on Capitol Hill surrounding 304 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 4: the Trump shooting. 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More details out there, including 337 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 4: and we'll dive into some of this and play some 338 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 4: of this audio now, a report that, in addition to 339 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:46,360 Speaker 4: firing eight shots, this would be assassin was first confronted 340 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,719 Speaker 4: not by the Secret Service sniper, but by a local 341 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 4: police officer who stopped him from continuing to shoot by 342 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 4: engaging with him. That's the lead story right now at 343 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 4: the Washington Post. 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This 369 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 2: is based on ongoing testimony right now on Capitol Hill. 370 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 1: Look, Senator Rampaul would be with us later, he's there. 371 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 2: This is happening as we're talking to Of course, we're 372 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 2: doing our show live, so we're reacting to this in 373 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 2: real time. This testimony up on Capitol Hill about the 374 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 2: appalling failure of the Secret Service, not just to avoid 375 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 2: a presidential assassination attempt that put a bullet through the 376 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 2: former president's ear. But the levels of failure, the cascading failures, 377 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 2: the blatant and obvious threats that were overlooked and unsecured. 378 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 2: There is nothing about any of the information we are 379 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 2: getting about this from Capitol Hill that makes us feel 380 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 2: any better about the Secret Services accountability or capabilities. There's 381 00:19:56,560 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 2: nothing that makes it sound like, oh, I can unders 382 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 2: how they would have made that mistake. All of it 383 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 2: is how the heck could you have done that? How 384 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 2: the heck could you have failed to do that? What 385 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 2: the heck is going on? That is what is overwhelmingly 386 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 2: the takeaway so far. Here's the acting Secret Service Director, 387 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 2: who is not doing a good job up there trying 388 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 2: to explain this to the American people and make it 389 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 2: all seem like there's some movement toward both accountability and reform. 390 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 2: Here's Acting Secret Service Director Ronald Robe play twenty one. 391 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 5: A critical part of the Secret Service mission is protecting 392 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 5: our nation's current and former government leaders. The attempted assassination 393 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 5: of former President Donald J. Trump on Saturday, July thirteenth, 394 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,880 Speaker 5: twenty twenty four, in Butler Pennsylvania was a failure on 395 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 5: multiple levels. Since my appointment as the acting director one 396 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 5: week ago. I identified gaps in our security on July 397 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 5: thirteenth and have implemented corrective actions. One of my first 398 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 5: actions as acting director was traveling to the Butler Farm 399 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 5: show site to betterderstand how our protection failed. I went 400 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 5: to the roof of the AGR building where the assailant 401 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 5: fired shots, and I lay it in a prone position 402 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 5: to evaluate his line of sight. What I saw made 403 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 5: me ashamed. As a career law enforcement officer and a 404 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 5: twenty five year veteran with his Secret Service, I cannot 405 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 5: defend why that roof was not better secured. 406 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 2: There is no defense clay, so he's not trying a defense. 407 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 2: A few things that I know you've been watching and 408 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,919 Speaker 2: pulling quotes in real time. Two here that you've brought up. 409 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 2: One is Josh Holly asked, is it true that they 410 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 2: didn't secure the roof because it was hot and so 411 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 2: the Secret Service wanted to be inside. That sounds almost 412 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 2: like a question that's too unbelievable for it to be asked. 413 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 2: But we were told by the former head of a 414 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 2: secret service that the eight degree or seven degree slope 415 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 2: of the roof made it too dangerous for Secret Service. 416 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 2: I mean, this is the problem is they keep telling 417 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 2: us this is why this happened, and reasonable people not conspiracy. 418 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 2: There's reasonable people are saying, I don't believe that you're 419 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,679 Speaker 2: just that incompetent, and that's hard to deal with. 420 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 4: As soon as this happened, I went on social media 421 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 4: and I said, there are only two explanations for how 422 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 4: this happened. One is gross potentially criminal negligence. There has 423 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 4: been no suggestion that anybody I know. The Secret Service 424 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 4: director resigned, but there hasn't been any suggestion that somebody's 425 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:33,640 Speaker 4: going to pay real consequences for this failure. The other one, 426 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 4: it was intentional. And the second one is terrifying because 427 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 4: if there was an intentional failure that allowed Trump to 428 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 4: be targeted, we got so many serious issues in this country, 429 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 4: but paramount is that you wouldn't even be able to 430 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 4: trust the Secret Service itself. That's terrifying. I'm still inclined 431 00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 4: to believe that this is gross, potential criminal negligce. But 432 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 4: with every detail that comes out about this shooting, buck 433 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 4: we dodged. Trump did a literal bullet here because. 434 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: He did he really dodged it. I mean it hit him. 435 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's the point we had a 436 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,679 Speaker 1: president shot. 437 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 4: In the year, solely in the year, because he happened 438 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 4: to turn his head at the last possible instant, Otherwise 439 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 4: his head would have been blown up on live television 440 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 4: while many of us watched that rally. I can't even 441 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 4: comprehend how much of a disaster this country would be 442 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 4: right now if he had been killed. And also Buck, 443 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,919 Speaker 4: not even in the present day. For hundreds of years 444 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 4: into the future, people would debate, discuss and talk about 445 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 4: whether our government intentionally allowed Trump to be killed, much 446 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 4: like people still talk about JFK today, this story would 447 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 4: have never ended. 448 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 2: I've got to tell you is this is where it's 449 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 2: very hard, because people come to me and they say, 450 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 2: because they know, you know, I was at the CIA, 451 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 2: and I know there are people out there that say 452 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:06,400 Speaker 2: the CIA d JFK killed. 453 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: And they asked if I've seen the files. 454 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 5: I have. 455 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 2: I have no knowledge of I can neither confirm or not. 456 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 2: They've not let twenty year old Yeah exists. They did 457 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 2: not let twenty four year old Buck know who killed 458 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 2: the president in nineteen you know, sixty with five sixty five, 459 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 2: what was the year? I was really nineteen sixty three? Three, 460 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 2: thank you nineteen sixty three. Sorry, And they they didn't 461 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,679 Speaker 2: let me know. I'd say this though, I think the 462 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 2: Secret Service. 463 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 1: Has gotten a pass for a long time as. 464 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,239 Speaker 2: An entity because they're to me, this proves that there 465 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 2: hasn't been a serious, a serious assassination attempt on a 466 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 2: president's Reagan has failed job. 467 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 4: As long as they don't fail, everybody assume they're doing 468 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 4: a good job since eighty one. 469 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 2: And you know, I know they're law enforcement people, but 470 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 2: the truth is they're not really. Some of them have 471 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 2: backgrounds in military. I respect, of course that, I get 472 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 2: that some of them have backgrounds and other law enforcement agencies. 473 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 2: But you know, for the most part, your Secret Service 474 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,880 Speaker 2: protective detail and everything, your chauffeurs and security guards. That's 475 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 2: just the truth. I mean, people can say whatever they want. 476 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 2: You know, I could sit here and tell you about 477 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,400 Speaker 2: the reality of CIA jobs too, Like some of them 478 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 2: sound really cool, but you know, the truth is that 479 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,239 Speaker 2: it's a lot of paperwork and meetings. Like I'm not, 480 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 2: but I know how this game goes. I understand how 481 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 2: these entities function. And one of the big problems you 482 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 2: have is that there is no accountability, that it's always 483 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 2: diffused across the bureaucracy and across the broader agencies and 484 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 2: cut twenty four here for example, Clay Josh Holly. We 485 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 2: mentioned him a second ago. He's just like, so the 486 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 2: acting I'm sorry the former director steps down because I mean, 487 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 2: my god, but what about people who are on site 488 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 2: making decisions that today? The real question is what has 489 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 2: to happen for you to actually get fired from the 490 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 2: Secret Service? 491 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 1: You have to use the wrong pronouns probably play twenty four. 492 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 8: You need to investigate to know that there were critical 493 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 8: enough failures that some individuals ought to be held account 494 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:01,880 Speaker 8: I mean, what more do you need to know? 495 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 5: What I need to know is exactly what happened. And 496 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 5: I need my investigators to do their job, and I can't. 497 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 5: I cannot put my thumb on the scale. Otherwise what 498 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,360 Speaker 5: you me put your thumb the objective? You're asking me, Senator, 499 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 5: to completely make a rush to judgment about somebody failing. 500 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 5: I acknowledge this was a failure of. 501 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 8: Is it not primofacia that somebody has failed? A former 502 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 8: president was. 503 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 5: Sure, sir, this could have been our Texas school book depository. 504 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 5: I have lost sleep over that for the last seventeen days. 505 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: Somebody I will tell you, Senator. 506 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 5: I will tell you, Senator, that I will not rush 507 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 5: to judgment, that people will be held accountable, and I 508 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 5: will do so with integrity and not rush to judgment 509 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 5: and put pep. 510 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 8: I unfairly persecuted. 511 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 5: We have to be able to have a proper investigation 512 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 5: into this, Senator. 513 00:26:56,119 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 2: They just want to do the old bureaucratic slow, the 514 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 2: Potomac two step, if you will, Clay. They know that 515 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 2: if they let this go, let's say you even get 516 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 2: into a Democrat Harris administration, God forbid that that could happen. 517 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,159 Speaker 2: There won't be accountability for this. What next June or 518 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 2: you know, eighteen months down the line or whatever it is. 519 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 2: People will move on. People will forget the delay is 520 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 2: purposeful and they have You could just ask this question, 521 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 2: who's in charge? Who is the overall Secret Service you know, 522 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 2: person in charge that day at that site. That person 523 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 2: should be fired. Who is the person you know? I 524 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 2: don't know how their command structure works in the field. 525 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 2: I wasn't Secret Service, but I could tell you that 526 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 2: from a federal security, national security background, there are people 527 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 2: who are technically in chain of command at different levels 528 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 2: for something like what happened here, Why have not they 529 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 2: been at least forced to, you know, been put on 530 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 2: leave the end of the investigation because they don't want 531 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 2: to fire anybody, because the whole point of going to 532 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 2: work for the federal government is, you know. 533 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: As long as you don't use the. 534 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 2: Wrong pronouns for someone, you're not going to get fired. 535 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:09,959 Speaker 2: I I just I look at this. 536 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 4: Somebody asked me this yesterday in the at the event 537 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 4: we're doing down here. They came up to me in 538 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 4: the hotel and said, how would this story be covered? 539 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 4: If Obama had gotten shot in the year and all 540 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,880 Speaker 4: of the exact same Secret Service failures had occurred, would 541 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 4: the story have vanished? We're sitting here, what seventeen days later, 542 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 4: basically eighteen days since Trump got shot, the first time 543 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 4: that a president or former president's been shot since nineteen 544 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 4: eighty one, and every single day since then there have 545 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 4: been basically more stories coming out about this failure. This 546 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 4: is such an abject failure that whether you are a Democrat, Republican, independent, 547 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 4: whether you're somebody who says, hey, I never vote, I 548 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 4: don't believe in the elect The number one job of 549 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 4: the Secret Service is to protect the people that they 550 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 4: are charged with protecting. 551 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: They failed. 552 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 4: They failed on an epic level. They failed. You heard 553 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 4: him just mentioned the Texas school book Depository. They failed 554 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 4: worse than the failure in nineteen sixty three with Kennedy. 555 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 4: The result, the result was better for us because Trump 556 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 4: happened to turn his head. But I would like to 557 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 4: see a senator really grill him. Compared to sixty three, 558 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 4: there wasn't a suggestion that you knew leehrvy Oswald was 559 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 4: in the Texas school Book Depository with a gun for 560 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 4: trying being observed suspiciously to my knowledge on that day, 561 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 4: like this individual was. I mean, it is possible that 562 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 4: you could have had a person. There are people out. 563 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 2: There who have the skill set of being able to 564 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 2: take an aim shot and they could have done it 565 00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 2: with you know, like a fifty caliber rifle from a 566 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 2: thousand yards away, and people who can do that in 567 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 2: different light conditions. You know, some of you you know, 568 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 2: we got we got marine snipers listening, we got seal 569 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 2: snipers listening, we got you know, the whole gamut. 570 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: Right, it is possible to do something like that. I 571 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 1: bring it up just because. 572 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 2: This is a twenty year old weirdo who got on 573 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 2: the nearest roof with a rifle and shot the president 574 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 2: through the year. This couldn't have been more sort of 575 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 2: like low tech, low training, low barrier to entry for 576 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:34,719 Speaker 2: an assassin. 577 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 4: And and this wasn't a thousand yards away with the 578 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 4: most skilled assassin. 579 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 2: Somebody you know, using like thermal imaging and somebody who 580 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 2: has you know, real understent. 581 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 1: No, this was some idiot who was twenty years old 582 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: with the rifle. 583 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 2: Who got off what eight shots each president from one 584 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty yards away. And I just want to 585 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 2: know the Secret Service tea they're saying, Okay, well, the 586 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 2: Secret Service snipers didn't know that he was there on 587 00:30:59,120 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 2: the roof. 588 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 1: What the heck are the Secret Service snipers doing? 589 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 2: You're not you're not checking the you know, the guys 590 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 2: on the ground have a line of sight at least 591 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 2: on the crown, your secret ser you're not checking the 592 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 2: roof because the roofs. You're not checking the room. And 593 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 2: this is the thing people are gonna tell us, Bucking Clay, 594 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 2: You guys don't get it. You know, this this wasn't 595 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 2: just a lapse, and and I can't prove. 596 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: That it wasn't just a lapse. 597 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 2: But I also can't convince people that this was good 598 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 2: faith because it is so dumb, it is so incompetent, 599 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 2: It is so unbelievable that they would allow this to happen. 600 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: I mean, you watch the recreations of this, you're just like, 601 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 1: how the first place you look. 602 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 2: I mean, this would be like the TSA saying, look, 603 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 2: the guy came on to the security area and he yeah, 604 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 2: you know, he had a suicide vest on, but he 605 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 2: told us that it was actually just like for a movie, 606 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 2: so he just you know, you couldn't believe this stuff. 607 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: The question for you. 608 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 4: As we get ready to go to break, I understand 609 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 4: that you have this idiot Kim Cheatle who got fired 610 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 4: Secret Service director, and now you've got the new acting 611 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 4: Secret Service director. What's this guy's name, Ronald Road Junior, 612 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 4: I think is his name. He's testifying right now. Why 613 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 4: can't we have the actual snipers on top of the 614 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 4: building testify as to what happened to them that day? 615 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 4: What did they see? What was the comms that they 616 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 4: were hearing? I don't want to hear. We're basically engaging 617 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 4: right now in a huge game of telephone. 618 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 2: Well this is pr by the way, Yeah, and they 619 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,479 Speaker 2: tell you they want the seniors, the people that this 620 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 2: is so important to the people that run these agencies FBI, CIA, 621 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 2: Secret Service, et cetera. Are basically taxpayer funded spokespersons and politicians. 622 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 2: They're not actually the ones that are doing the work. 623 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 4: If I had doing the show that we do, the 624 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 4: choice between having the sniper who shot this shooter on 625 00:32:56,200 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 4: our show or anybody in corporate manager. I want the 626 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 4: actual sniper. 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