1
00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:11,400
Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome back to the Official Yellowstone Podcast, presented

2
00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,840
Speaker 1: by whin Las Vegas. Thank you so much for tuning in,

3
00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:17,720
Speaker 1: and thank you for all your kind words about the podcast. Now,

4
00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:20,759
Speaker 1: today's episode is a special one. As some of you

5
00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:24,520
Speaker 1: guys may know, when Las Vegas through a huge event

6
00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,800
Speaker 1: for the new Yellowstone Origin Story eighteen eighty three, and

7
00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:32,320
Speaker 1: I was lucky enough to sneak my way in. So

8
00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,080
Speaker 1: the cast was in talent for this premiere event, and

9
00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:38,519
Speaker 1: I feel so honored that I got a chance to

10
00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:40,519
Speaker 1: sit down to them and talk to them about their

11
00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:45,320
Speaker 1: work on this show. So this one was especially especially

12
00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:47,479
Speaker 1: sort of incredible for me because these are actors who

13
00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:50,840
Speaker 1: I've never met before. They're artists who I've admired from

14
00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:54,200
Speaker 1: AFAR for a long time, and so the opportunity to

15
00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,720
Speaker 1: talk to them about the process of working on this

16
00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:04,160
Speaker 1: show this huge epic, an unprecedented television event. We're talking

17
00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:08,280
Speaker 1: about one of the biggest television shows ever made, and

18
00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:10,520
Speaker 1: if you've seen any footage from it, it shows like

19
00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,240
Speaker 1: the scale of this thing is incredible, and the chance

20
00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:15,960
Speaker 1: to talk to these actors in the middle of the

21
00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,880
Speaker 1: process of making it was such a gift. So just

22
00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:23,120
Speaker 1: for context, A lot of these actors they worked on Friday,

23
00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,840
Speaker 1: they flew to Las Vegas for the premiere event on Saturday.

24
00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,720
Speaker 1: I talked to them on Sunday, and then they flew

25
00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:33,840
Speaker 1: back to eighteen eighty three Sunday night. So the opportunity

26
00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,320
Speaker 1: to talk to them in that little window, that little

27
00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:40,200
Speaker 1: window into their process as they're making this thing was

28
00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,600
Speaker 1: an utterly unique opportunity that I feel so grateful for.

29
00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,120
Speaker 1: So we're gonna get right to it. We're gonna talk

30
00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:51,280
Speaker 1: with Tim McGraw, Faith Hill, and Isabelle May, the incredible

31
00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,639
Speaker 1: actors who bring to life the very first Dutton family

32
00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,560
Speaker 1: who ventured west as part of the American expansion in

33
00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:04,200
Speaker 1: the late eighteen hundreds. Right after this, I feel incredibly honored,

34
00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,760
Speaker 1: what a pleasure, what a joy. Thank you so so

35
00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,000
Speaker 1: much for being here. We've got Tim mcgron the studio.

36
00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:14,320
Speaker 1: Tim obviously plays James Dutton on Y eighteen eighty three,

37
00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:18,520
Speaker 1: on eighteen eighty three, and we're so grateful, thank you

38
00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:19,040
Speaker 1: for being here.

39
00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,000
Speaker 2: Thank you man. I'm a big fan of yours, man,

40
00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,240
Speaker 2: really enjoy your work and a big fan of your

41
00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,120
Speaker 2: character and the things that you do on there. I

42
00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,000
Speaker 2: mean everybody falls in love with Jimmy.

43
00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:33,400
Speaker 1: That's so I seek to be pitiable nothing else. I

44
00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,440
Speaker 1: feel like that some guys are tough, some guys are

45
00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:41,160
Speaker 1: just pathetic enough to garner some well. So you were

46
00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,720
Speaker 1: just saying, just to jump back in. You were just saying,

47
00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:48,919
Speaker 1: right now, it's a Sunday, you were shooting on Friday day,

48
00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,880
Speaker 1: and you go back to work tomorrow.

49
00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,040
Speaker 2: Tomorrow Monday, I'll be up at probably three point thirty

50
00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:56,960
Speaker 2: in the morning getting ready to work.

51
00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,640
Speaker 1: So you went from from West Texas where you all

52
00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:03,080
Speaker 1: are working, to the wind Las Vegas back to West

53
00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:04,200
Speaker 1: Texas to go back to work.

54
00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it literally when we left in the

55
00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,400
Speaker 2: middle of nowhere in the Panhandle of Texas in a

56
00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:14,000
Speaker 2: sixty mile an hour dust storm, shooting bad guys, running

57
00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,880
Speaker 2: horses over rough terrain, horses jumping Yucca plants and you

58
00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:20,520
Speaker 2: know the whole thing, and going wide ass open and

59
00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,239
Speaker 2: can I say you ass on this showsolutely okay, please

60
00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:28,640
Speaker 2: do as open and chasing these bad guys, and we

61
00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,960
Speaker 2: get on a plane fly here, and I've had three

62
00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:35,480
Speaker 2: showers since then, and this morning I took a Q

63
00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,040
Speaker 2: tip in my ear and was just cleaning my and

64
00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,760
Speaker 2: there still was dust in my ears. So I had

65
00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:44,320
Speaker 2: dust in places that I don't even want to mention.

66
00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:45,200
Speaker 3: There's dust.

67
00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:49,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, what I can't. What's incredible is how immersive the

68
00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:53,680
Speaker 1: experience of making this show is. There are so many

69
00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:57,240
Speaker 1: parallels between the real journey that your characters are on

70
00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,800
Speaker 1: and the experience of making it. You can't fake a

71
00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:00,760
Speaker 1: um like that.

72
00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:05,400
Speaker 2: No, no, exactly. And you know you find out because

73
00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,240
Speaker 2: the West has been so romanticized, you know, and all

74
00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,640
Speaker 2: the Westerns that you see have been so romanticized, and

75
00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:15,400
Speaker 2: everybody thinks, oh, I would love to live in that era. No,

76
00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,679
Speaker 2: you probably wouldn't. And you know, you're on this wagon

77
00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:23,839
Speaker 2: training and you're heading north and west, and you think that,

78
00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,200
Speaker 2: you know, we can make it, we can do this.

79
00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,760
Speaker 2: And I told Faith when we first started shooting this.

80
00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:30,760
Speaker 2: After the first you know, a week or two of

81
00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,440
Speaker 2: shooting and you know, learning to drive wagons and you're

82
00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,239
Speaker 2: going through cowboy camp and all that stuff, I said,

83
00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,320
Speaker 2: you know what, I probably would have made it a

84
00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:40,600
Speaker 2: week and I would have said, you know, but the

85
00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,200
Speaker 2: first river we got to out have said, you know,

86
00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,280
Speaker 2: this looks like a good place, and you know, let's

87
00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:48,200
Speaker 2: just stop and build a house here and just relaxes.

88
00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,520
Speaker 2: Ain't I ain't crossing that river. You know, it's because

89
00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:52,280
Speaker 2: we you know, in this show, we crossed two or

90
00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,719
Speaker 2: three rivers. I mean, it's wagons going across rivers, it's

91
00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,680
Speaker 2: people drowning. I mean, it's it's pretty incredible and intense.

92
00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,840
Speaker 2: The the fortitude that these people had to do this,

93
00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:04,320
Speaker 2: I mean, it's pretty incredible.

94
00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:06,880
Speaker 1: I find exactly as you just said, there's kind of

95
00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,120
Speaker 1: two competing ideas of the West, and I think this

96
00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,200
Speaker 1: is something that Taylor writes so compellingly, sort of as

97
00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,760
Speaker 1: it stated over and over again in the first pilot,

98
00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:17,720
Speaker 1: there's the hell in the heaven, there's the dream in

99
00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,440
Speaker 1: the nightmare. There's this kind of image we have of

100
00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:25,160
Speaker 1: the romantic West and then the brutal reality of the

101
00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,240
Speaker 1: day to day difficulty of living out West. And something

102
00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,880
Speaker 1: that I admire so much about your performance is is

103
00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,600
Speaker 1: it really whip saws back and forth between those two extremes.

104
00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,800
Speaker 1: From the first time we see you, you're driving a

105
00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:44,800
Speaker 1: wagon firing guns over your should. Yeah, and then just

106
00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:50,240
Speaker 1: twenty thirty minutes later, this incredibly intimate, small personal scene

107
00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:54,040
Speaker 1: with just you and your wife in the tub. Those

108
00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,760
Speaker 1: two extremes as an actor, those two things are so

109
00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:01,360
Speaker 1: difficult to hold it once and I just so admire

110
00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:06,320
Speaker 1: how your performance is so simple when it needs to

111
00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,839
Speaker 1: be and so commanding and powerful when it needs to be.

112
00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:10,960
Speaker 1: That's an incredible gift.

113
00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,960
Speaker 2: Thank you. I mean, well, it's the writing, right. You're

114
00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:19,160
Speaker 2: an actor, a great actor, and I'm an act and

115
00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,800
Speaker 2: I don't call myself an actor. I'm a musician. But

116
00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,719
Speaker 2: it all comes down to the material. I mean, everything

117
00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:30,280
Speaker 2: is driven by the material that you pick. I wasn't

118
00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,600
Speaker 2: looking for a series to do by any means, and

119
00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,279
Speaker 2: I was looking to dedicate five months of my life,

120
00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,400
Speaker 2: you know, six days a week, twelve fourteen hours a

121
00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,880
Speaker 2: day out in the elements. I wasn't looking to do that.

122
00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:45,200
Speaker 2: But when you get Taylor as you know, it's such

123
00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,080
Speaker 2: a brilliant writer. I mean, he's one of the When

124
00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:51,480
Speaker 2: he sent these scripts to us, it literally was the

125
00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,040
Speaker 2: best thing I ever read, the best thing I've ever read.

126
00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,240
Speaker 2: And I'm a huge Yellowstone fan. I've been a Yellowstone

127
00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,200
Speaker 2: fan since the very first night of the premiere of

128
00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,919
Speaker 2: the very first episode and was hooked ever since and

129
00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,760
Speaker 2: never stopped watching. So when we got this opportunity to

130
00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:09,440
Speaker 2: do this. I mean, it all happened because Taylor called

131
00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:14,080
Speaker 2: last year. I say last with the last couple of years.

132
00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:18,040
Speaker 2: As everybody knows it's time, as time has become the

133
00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:22,200
Speaker 2: sort of vortext that you get lost in. My agent

134
00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,560
Speaker 2: called said, Hey, Taylor Sheridan wants to call you. Can

135
00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,840
Speaker 2: I give him? Can I give him your number? I mean,

136
00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,560
Speaker 2: what a question to ask? Can I give Taylor shared

137
00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:33,880
Speaker 2: in your number? I'm like, man, uh, don't give you

138
00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:34,280
Speaker 2: my number?

139
00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:35,440
Speaker 1: Yeah?

140
00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,160
Speaker 2: Can you just text you and then we can can

141
00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,360
Speaker 2: transferred to now. Of course I said, yes, give Taylor

142
00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,640
Speaker 2: my number, and thinking that it was probably one of

143
00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,560
Speaker 2: those lunch conversations where hey, you know, give me Tim's number,

144
00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:49,880
Speaker 2: I'll call him and you never call, you know. I

145
00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:51,560
Speaker 2: thought it was one of those kind of things. And

146
00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,440
Speaker 2: then sure, not five minutes later, Taylor called. And you

147
00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,120
Speaker 2: know Taylor and the energy that he brings to everything

148
00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:58,720
Speaker 2: that he does, so rout the bat, it's like, hey, Tim,

149
00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:02,160
Speaker 2: is Taylor big fan? Do you watch Yellowstone? I go, yeah,

150
00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:03,600
Speaker 2: I'm a huge fan. He goes, I want you to

151
00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:05,160
Speaker 2: be on the show. He said, would you make a

152
00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:09,040
Speaker 2: cameo on our show? And of course right off the bat.

153
00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:12,520
Speaker 2: My instinct was like, well, yeah, like, of course I will.

154
00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:16,000
Speaker 2: But you know, I don't want to be some singing,

155
00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,160
Speaker 2: singing cowboy that comes to the bunk house. He gets

156
00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,240
Speaker 2: taken to the train station at the end of the episode,

157
00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:23,400
Speaker 2: and give me something cool to do, and I'll be

158
00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,000
Speaker 2: glad to do it. And he goes, I have an idea,

159
00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,760
Speaker 2: but give me a week. So a week later he calls,

160
00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,120
Speaker 2: sure enough, and I thought that would really I thought

161
00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:31,840
Speaker 2: that would be the end of the conversation. I didn't

162
00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,040
Speaker 2: they got to hear back from it. A week later

163
00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:35,960
Speaker 2: he calls, I got this is the idea. You're going

164
00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:39,520
Speaker 2: to do a flashback. You're going to be the original

165
00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,760
Speaker 2: Dutton that discovered Yellowstone and it's gonna be in the

166
00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:46,320
Speaker 2: eighteen eighties. And I go, I'm in. But then he said,

167
00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,760
Speaker 2: can you ride? And I said, yeah, I can ride.

168
00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:50,280
Speaker 2: Grew up right and I can grew up riding horse,

169
00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,120
Speaker 2: so I can. Yeah, I can ride. He says, all right, good,

170
00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,120
Speaker 2: gave me the dates to show up, so we show up.

171
00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,240
Speaker 2: In the very first morning I show up. I actually

172
00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,520
Speaker 2: saw you guys, and I don't know if you knew it,

173
00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:03,719
Speaker 2: but I was playing a wrangular part. I was out

174
00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,160
Speaker 2: there because the cattle that we were staying on the

175
00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,120
Speaker 2: ranch where the cattle was, So every morning I would

176
00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:10,600
Speaker 2: get up at six because we had to be in

177
00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:15,160
Speaker 2: like quarantine for like a week before we could start shooting.

178
00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:16,960
Speaker 2: So we were staying on the ranch, the two Feathers

179
00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,920
Speaker 2: ranch that was right next door to the Yellowstone. So

180
00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:22,719
Speaker 2: the guy who was running the cattle said, hey, you

181
00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:24,120
Speaker 2: want to get up and run the cattle with us

182
00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,880
Speaker 2: over to the Yellowstone set. So I got me and

183
00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,839
Speaker 2: Faith got up every morning at six, moved the cattle

184
00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,840
Speaker 2: over to the Yellowstone set, and you guys would be

185
00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:38,200
Speaker 2: filming and we were out there herding the cattle, and

186
00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,199
Speaker 2: you guys never knew it was us, and we'd see

187
00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,360
Speaker 2: y'all out there working, and we were out there herding

188
00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,959
Speaker 2: the cattle the whole time. And it was a lot

189
00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:48,839
Speaker 2: of fun. But the very first scene was shot. I

190
00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:52,280
Speaker 2: show up at five in the morning. Tater says, Okay,

191
00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,120
Speaker 2: here's what's going to happen. You're gonna get on this horse,

192
00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:56,920
Speaker 2: and you're gonna have five guys with you, and you're

193
00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,480
Speaker 2: gonna haul ass across this valley and you're gonna chase

194
00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,280
Speaker 2: these bad guys to start shooting, and then you're gonna

195
00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,600
Speaker 2: run into the woods with these bad guys and you're

196
00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,840
Speaker 2: gonna have a shootout in the woods. And I'm like, okay,

197
00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:09,880
Speaker 2: let's go. So we got on the horse and the

198
00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:13,920
Speaker 2: very first, very first shot on the horse and we

199
00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,480
Speaker 2: just haul ass, just wide open across that well, you

200
00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,600
Speaker 2: know the valley. There, hall ass across the valley shooting

201
00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,440
Speaker 2: bad guys and I'm like, got off the horse and

202
00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,000
Speaker 2: I was grinning from ear to ear. I said, if

203
00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,560
Speaker 2: I never do anything else in my life, I want

204
00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,240
Speaker 2: to do this. I want to do this. So we

205
00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:35,000
Speaker 2: we did a couple of flashback episodes and one is

206
00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:39,920
Speaker 2: shown already and I supposed to yeah, and so we

207
00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,600
Speaker 2: do another flashback. Then he called back a week later.

208
00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,200
Speaker 2: You're gonna have a wife in this, He said, do

209
00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,880
Speaker 2: you think Faith would be interested in doing this? And

210
00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:49,680
Speaker 2: of course I'm scared to death of my wife, so

211
00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:51,480
Speaker 2: it took me a couple of days to even ask her.

212
00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,640
Speaker 2: So I asked Faith, I said, do you think you

213
00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:58,800
Speaker 2: want baby? Do you think you want to play my wife?

214
00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,800
Speaker 2: And she goes, yeah, yeah, hell yeah, I'm in let's

215
00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:06,280
Speaker 2: do it. So we shot the episodes, and maybe a

216
00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:09,680
Speaker 2: month after we finished shooting, Taylor Colney goes, look, I

217
00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:13,760
Speaker 2: showed the scenes to the network, and I think they

218
00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:17,080
Speaker 2: want to buy a series of a prequel. And knowing Taylor,

219
00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,360
Speaker 2: he already had that in his mind, you know, you

220
00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:23,680
Speaker 2: know Taylor, Yeah, he was way ahead of us anyway.

221
00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,080
Speaker 2: And I said, yeah, I mean, you know, of course,

222
00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,120
Speaker 2: you go through all the business questions which we won't

223
00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,640
Speaker 2: get into. It's like, all right, let's get the deal

224
00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:33,720
Speaker 2: worked out, Let's see some scripts and all this stuff,

225
00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,240
Speaker 2: and of course we're in. And then he started sending

226
00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,600
Speaker 2: scripts and when I read the scripts, it's like, there's

227
00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:41,640
Speaker 2: no way I'm not going to do this. There's no

228
00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:43,720
Speaker 2: faith in I both, there's no way we're not going

229
00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:47,520
Speaker 2: to do this. And then when Sam Elliott got involved,

230
00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:52,439
Speaker 2: I mean, how do you take this script Taylor shared

231
00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,520
Speaker 2: and being a huge Jellstone fan, and then Sam Elliott's

232
00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,240
Speaker 2: going to be acting with you, that's a box that

233
00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,679
Speaker 2: you can't get out of, you don't want to get

234
00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:02,360
Speaker 2: out of. How do you say no to any of that?

235
00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,760
Speaker 2: I mean, And it's been a fantastic experience. It's been tough.

236
00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,600
Speaker 2: I mean, it's been a hard shoot out in the

237
00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:13,000
Speaker 2: elements the whole time, riding hard. We've done some really

238
00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:16,000
Speaker 2: hard riding, which I love. I love being on the horse,

239
00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:19,480
Speaker 2: and I love doing these scenes learning to drive a wagon,

240
00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:21,280
Speaker 2: which I don't Luckily I don't have to do very

241
00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,520
Speaker 2: much because that's really hard, really hard. Face gotten really

242
00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:26,679
Speaker 2: good at it because she drives a wagon A long yeah.

243
00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:27,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

244
00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:32,240
Speaker 2: So it's been incredible. And the cast, the ensemble, it's

245
00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:37,920
Speaker 2: really an ensemble cast, and from the smallest part to

246
00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,280
Speaker 2: the biggest parts, everybody has brought their a game to

247
00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,200
Speaker 2: this and I think it shows up on screen.

248
00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,160
Speaker 1: I think it absolutely does. And I mean it's incredible

249
00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:48,000
Speaker 1: to hear about that process. Because what strikes me of

250
00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:52,679
Speaker 1: that is in part that Taylor, because you came on

251
00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,520
Speaker 1: to these flashbacks on Yellowstone, Taylor had the opportunity to

252
00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,840
Speaker 1: write these roles in eighteen eighty three to be so

253
00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:04,080
Speaker 1: perfectly suited to you and to Faith, because in watching it,

254
00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:07,040
Speaker 1: it feels like it could not be more perfectly cast.

255
00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:10,200
Speaker 1: And that's in part because it was written to suit you, guys,

256
00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,480
Speaker 1: written to suit your specific skill set, and also to

257
00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:18,600
Speaker 1: create a family and a love story on screen. To

258
00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,440
Speaker 1: have the incredible gift of a real family and a

259
00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,560
Speaker 1: real love story going into that. Will will you talk

260
00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,280
Speaker 1: a little bit about that process, the process of working

261
00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:28,000
Speaker 1: with your wife.

262
00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, here's the funny thing is

263
00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,960
Speaker 2: we read when we get the scripts. We would lay

264
00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,200
Speaker 2: in bed at night and she would read an entire

265
00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,640
Speaker 2: script to me. Then I would read the next script

266
00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,120
Speaker 2: out loud to her. But what we never have done

267
00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:44,080
Speaker 2: and still don't do, is we don't read our parts

268
00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,960
Speaker 2: to each other. We don't rehearse our lines with these

269
00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,199
Speaker 2: others because what we don't want to bring. We want

270
00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:52,360
Speaker 2: to bring our relationship to the screen because we've been

271
00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,760
Speaker 2: married for twenty five years and so that's part of

272
00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,400
Speaker 2: Margaret and James's relationship as well. But we don't read

273
00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,160
Speaker 2: them together because we want to not bring so much

274
00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,040
Speaker 2: of Tim and Faith to it. We want to bring

275
00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:06,640
Speaker 2: Margaret and James to life. So we don't run our

276
00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,320
Speaker 2: lines until we show up on set and do our scenes.

277
00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,200
Speaker 2: And because we want it to be authentic, and we

278
00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,200
Speaker 2: want it to be authentic to James and Margaret, not

279
00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:15,559
Speaker 2: Tim faith, and it.

280
00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:17,800
Speaker 1: Has that incredible quality of so so I can't help

281
00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:19,560
Speaker 1: but notice over and over again in eighteen eighty three.

282
00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:23,520
Speaker 1: There's these Yeah, the question of sort of youth and

283
00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:30,760
Speaker 1: naivete and inexperience versus experience and sort of lived years

284
00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,280
Speaker 1: of difficulty, and that's embodied on two ends of the

285
00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:37,160
Speaker 1: spectrum with Sam Elliott's character and Isabelle May's character, and

286
00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:41,040
Speaker 1: then you and Faith, Margaret and James in the middle

287
00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:44,640
Speaker 1: of that represent kind of both at once. Your characters

288
00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:48,960
Speaker 1: have lived difficult lives. Especially in those flashbacks, it's revealed

289
00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:53,280
Speaker 1: exactly how difficult and punishing and brutal your life has been.

290
00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:55,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you get it. You get a sense of

291
00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:59,040
Speaker 2: who James is. But because of the flashbacks in the

292
00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:02,520
Speaker 2: second and the second episode during the Civil War, and

293
00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:06,680
Speaker 2: in my mind when I'm developing my character and thinking

294
00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,280
Speaker 2: about who James is and what drives him. To me,

295
00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,800
Speaker 2: James didn't want to be in that war. He didn't

296
00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,800
Speaker 2: believe in what the cause was, and he was forced

297
00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,000
Speaker 2: to be in it. And then he then he goes

298
00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:23,560
Speaker 2: into a battle and loses a thousand men, And to me,

299
00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:28,840
Speaker 2: it's James is ps PTSD. I mean, that's clearly part

300
00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:32,560
Speaker 2: of his character, clearly part of his psyche. And I

301
00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,600
Speaker 2: think probably after the war, you know, he's in prison

302
00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:39,080
Speaker 2: for three years after the war, during reconstruction and the

303
00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:43,760
Speaker 2: devastation that it wrought. He wanted. I think James' motivation

304
00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:48,360
Speaker 2: was to get his family to an untainted part of

305
00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,640
Speaker 2: the world, and that's really what he wanted to do.

306
00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:52,960
Speaker 2: And he was out. He was trying to outrun ghosts.

307
00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,880
Speaker 2: He was trying to get past some of the ghosts

308
00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:57,160
Speaker 2: that he had in his life. And I don't think

309
00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:00,680
Speaker 2: he ever's going to get past that. But it was

310
00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:06,800
Speaker 2: pretty incredible character in a complex character. And as an actor,

311
00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,239
Speaker 2: when you get a chance to play somebody so complex,

312
00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:13,000
Speaker 2: so deep, and so troubled and be able to show

313
00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:16,040
Speaker 2: that in your eyes and to show that in the

314
00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:19,520
Speaker 2: character that you play, it's rare that you get the

315
00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:21,760
Speaker 2: opportunity to do that. And you get the opportunity to

316
00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:25,720
Speaker 2: do it, you know, after being in the music business

317
00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:29,080
Speaker 2: for over thirty years, be married for twenty five years,

318
00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,880
Speaker 2: and at a point in our lives where probably it

319
00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:35,120
Speaker 2: should be winding down, to get the opportunity to do

320
00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:38,160
Speaker 2: something like this together as husband and wife. I mean,

321
00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:40,920
Speaker 2: how rare is that for something like that to come

322
00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:42,600
Speaker 2: along at this point in your career.

323
00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:44,840
Speaker 1: And it really feels like I can't help but map

324
00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,240
Speaker 1: that onto the journey of James and Margaret. To a

325
00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,040
Speaker 1: certain extent. They've done one thing, They've lived one life,

326
00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:55,560
Speaker 1: and now they're embarking on this new journey, this incredibly hopeful,

327
00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,520
Speaker 1: sort of aspirational journey. They're seeking this dream. Yes, I

328
00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,240
Speaker 1: think the thing I am so struck by impart in

329
00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:06,480
Speaker 1: your performance is he's haunted. He's seen terrible things, He's

330
00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:10,879
Speaker 1: seen hell, he stood in hell. But you still find

331
00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,199
Speaker 1: it feels like what redeems him to a certain extent

332
00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:18,119
Speaker 1: is the joy and curiosity that the spontaneous moments of

333
00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:19,919
Speaker 1: joy that he finds in his wife and in his

334
00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:23,400
Speaker 1: family and his daughter, Yes, exactly, Yes, and his daughter.

335
00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:27,160
Speaker 2: I think James looks at his daughter as his hope

336
00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,840
Speaker 2: for redemption for all the things that he's had to

337
00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:34,800
Speaker 2: live through. And Isabelle May, who plays my daughter Elsa,

338
00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,639
Speaker 2: just brings such a light and a spark and a

339
00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:42,760
Speaker 2: hope to this whole process. And the thing I like

340
00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:47,359
Speaker 2: about this is it's not romanticized. There is a romanticism

341
00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,320
Speaker 2: to it, because the West in itself and the journey,

342
00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:54,119
Speaker 2: there's a romantic sort of version of that. But what

343
00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:58,400
Speaker 2: Taylor has written is the struggle and the hardship and

344
00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:02,520
Speaker 2: taken sort of the veneer off of of this journey.

345
00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,960
Speaker 2: It's not like great. You know, people watch Westerns and

346
00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:07,360
Speaker 2: they think, oh, I would have loved to have lived

347
00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:11,320
Speaker 2: in that time. When you see this, you're like, I

348
00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,960
Speaker 2: don't know that. I told Faith, you know, after a

349
00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,240
Speaker 2: couple of weeks of shoot down, you know, honey, I

350
00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,680
Speaker 2: think in real life I would have probably went a

351
00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,159
Speaker 2: week and when we got to the first river, I

352
00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,040
Speaker 2: would have said, you know, this looks like a really

353
00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:26,560
Speaker 2: good place to settle down. I think there's nothing wrong

354
00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:27,199
Speaker 2: with this right here.

355
00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,080
Speaker 1: Let's stay here. We're all out of time. I just

356
00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:33,280
Speaker 1: want to say thank you again. I'm so as an actor,

357
00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,800
Speaker 1: I'm learning so much from your performance on this show,

358
00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:38,400
Speaker 1: as a fan of yours, and just as a fan

359
00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:43,880
Speaker 1: of Yellowstone this you bring something utterly unique and an

360
00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:48,119
Speaker 1: incredible sort of something incredible to this series that absolutely

361
00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,520
Speaker 1: it sort of couldn't exist without you. So thank you,

362
00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:51,000
Speaker 1: so much.

363
00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,399
Speaker 2: Thank you man. I think you know, I think I

364
00:18:54,840 --> 00:19:01,000
Speaker 2: feel grateful that that Taylor and the studio took a

365
00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:04,240
Speaker 2: chance to cast Faith and Eye in this role and

366
00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,880
Speaker 2: just really load us up and think, all right, here

367
00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,320
Speaker 2: you go, guys, we're banking on you, I mean, and

368
00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,120
Speaker 2: that's a that's a heavy burden. And what we didn't

369
00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:16,840
Speaker 2: want to do is let anybody down. And secondly, you guys,

370
00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,160
Speaker 2: we didn't want to let you guys do because we're

371
00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,320
Speaker 2: such fans of what y'all do and of the show Yellowstone,

372
00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,600
Speaker 2: that we didn't want anybody in the cast of Yellowstone

373
00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:28,040
Speaker 2: to look at this show and think, I, they're not

374
00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,159
Speaker 2: representing us as well as they should. And that's what

375
00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:31,000
Speaker 2: we didn't want to do.

376
00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:34,720
Speaker 1: You're representing us better than we could ever hope to

377
00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:38,560
Speaker 1: represent ourselves. So thank you so much, sir, man appreciate it.

378
00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:39,960
Speaker 2: Thank you here my pleasure.

379
00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,400
Speaker 1: I really I can't help but be struck by how

380
00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:48,800
Speaker 1: humble and generous mister McGraw is. May we all aspire

381
00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,159
Speaker 1: to be so grounded and kind should we ever achieve

382
00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:54,560
Speaker 1: even a fraction of the things he's achieved. I need

383
00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,320
Speaker 1: to step aside for a minute, and when we come back,

384
00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,880
Speaker 1: we're going to sit down with the incomparable Faith Hill.

385
00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:06,240
Speaker 1: I feel incredibly lucky, incredibly honored, incredibly thankful to have

386
00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:08,240
Speaker 1: with me in the studio today. Faith Hill faith Place.

387
00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,320
Speaker 1: Margaret Dutton, thank you so much for being here.

388
00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,760
Speaker 4: Gosh, thank you for having me. It's a pleasure to

389
00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:14,120
Speaker 4: meet you. You're durable.

390
00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:15,080
Speaker 2: Thank you.

391
00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,480
Speaker 1: Pitiable. I go for pitiable, you know, I go for pitiable,

392
00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:20,199
Speaker 1: sort of pathetic.

393
00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:21,720
Speaker 4: That's all right, You're definitely lad.

394
00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:24,920
Speaker 1: You guys are in the middle of an incredible whirldwind.

395
00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,679
Speaker 1: You're in the middle of making the show. You worked

396
00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:31,560
Speaker 1: on Friday, you work again Monday, and today it's it's

397
00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:35,679
Speaker 1: we're pushing into the afternoon on Sunday. Yeah, And the

398
00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,560
Speaker 1: experience of making the show, it's an incredibly immersive one.

399
00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,919
Speaker 1: You're really out there. You're in the middle of the

400
00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,320
Speaker 1: wilderness of West Texas. Will you just talk about the

401
00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,000
Speaker 1: immersive experience and making this thing?

402
00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:50,280
Speaker 4: Well, yes, it's we are we are living eighteen eighty

403
00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:56,520
Speaker 4: three and all of it's glory and grit and guts

404
00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,320
Speaker 4: and everything. I mean, can I say that absolutely? Sorry,

405
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,639
Speaker 4: it's kind of not really ladylike, but it's the truth.

406
00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:09,199
Speaker 4: It's yeah, it's about realistic as you can possibly get.

407
00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:13,879
Speaker 4: In twenty twenty one. Going back to eighteen eighty three, Taylor,

408
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:18,600
Speaker 4: you know him well, and he made it very clear

409
00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,840
Speaker 4: to us that he wanted this to be as authentic

410
00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:26,320
Speaker 4: as it possibly could be, and it was going to

411
00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,400
Speaker 4: be hard, hard work, not afraid of that.

412
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:30,199
Speaker 3: Grew up.

413
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:35,480
Speaker 4: My parents raised us to be hard workers, always, Tim

414
00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:39,080
Speaker 4: as well. And Tim and I have been in the

415
00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 4: business for over thirty years, probably longer than you're young. Okay,

416
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,000
Speaker 4: never mind, don't even answer that question. Don't even look

417
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,719
Speaker 4: at me right now. So we've been in the business

418
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:56,080
Speaker 4: longer than you've been alive, I'm sure, and we've worked hard,

419
00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,240
Speaker 4: you know, really hard. This is another level.

420
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:00,199
Speaker 3: Uh.

421
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 4: I think Tim would probably say that he's never done

422
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:13,040
Speaker 4: anything harder mentally or physically. However it takes it it

423
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 4: it's necessary in order to bring this story to life

424
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:20,359
Speaker 4: and the way that it was written. Hopefully we are

425
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:25,280
Speaker 4: doing that, you know. Justice and I have to be honest.

426
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:29,360
Speaker 4: When we walked when we came into the hotel, uh,

427
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 4: we were all kind of like, oh, hotel, wow, So this.

428
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:35,639
Speaker 3: Is this is what it is.

429
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 4: This is what it feels like too, this is the future.

430
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 4: And that sounds insane coming from me, who I've We've

431
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 4: seen just about the interior of every hotel in the world, honestly,

432
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 4: but that's how immersed we have been in filming this show. Yeah,

433
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 4: so when we go back this afternoon and then back

434
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,359
Speaker 4: into through it tomorrow, I might be a little sad

435
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 4: for a minute. I won't have a bathtub. I really

436
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 4: was so excited when I got a bathtub. Am I

437
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 4: saying too much on the show? I apologize, Bait, forgive me.

438
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 4: I am a really decent person. But wow, I just

439
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:17,679
Speaker 4: feel comfortable.

440
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 1: Everything you say. Any moment you've been speaking is an

441
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 1: incredible break for our audience, who is so sick of

442
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 1: hearing me speak.

443
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 4: I doubt that, very seriously.

444
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,879
Speaker 1: I doubt that. So you're talking about the difficult, the

445
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 1: sort of sometimes punishing difficult nature of making the show,

446
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:37,440
Speaker 1: and you mentioned to go. Something that gives you strength

447
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 1: in that and helps you through it is you have

448
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,200
Speaker 1: each other. The cast has each other. Yea, you and

449
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 1: Tim have each other. Will you talk about how you

450
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:49,120
Speaker 1: sort of draw strength from your collaborators, how you draw

451
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 1: strength from having your husband there? We talk about that

452
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:52,119
Speaker 1: a little.

453
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

454
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 4: Absolutely, You've gotten to meet most everyone here, right. The

455
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 4: cast is amazing, and you know full well that it's

456
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 4: just you become a family and you do work off

457
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:12,400
Speaker 4: of one another, and you are going through the exact

458
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 4: same thing. It's not like we're shooting, you know, someone

459
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 4: shooting in some glamorous, glorious spot in eighteen eighty three,

460
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:24,400
Speaker 4: and the rest is not. We are all in this together,

461
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 4: doing it at the same time and having the same experience,

462
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:35,199
Speaker 4: and that's helpful. You know their strength and numbers for sure.

463
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 4: Tim and I have been married for twenty five years.

464
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 4: We've done a lot of things together. We've spent pretty

465
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 4: much the last three years together. I think I only

466
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 4: think we've been apart for a single day. Oh my god,

467
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 4: how are we even still together? I don't know. I'm

468
00:24:55,840 --> 00:25:00,439
Speaker 4: just kidding, but it's kind of true. Actually, we have

469
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 4: been to I don't think we've been apart for the

470
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 4: last two or three years because of COVID and lots

471
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 4: of other things.

472
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:10,919
Speaker 1: When we.

473
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 4: Had the opportunity to do this, to film the show together,

474
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 4: we've never done anything on screen like this. We could

475
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 4: could not pass it up. The writing was just off

476
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,880
Speaker 4: the chart. It was extraordinary, one of the best things

477
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:38,400
Speaker 4: either one of us had ever read, honestly, So we

478
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:42,679
Speaker 4: made a commitment to one another. Because we do live together,

479
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 4: have three daughters. Married for twenty five years, all these things,

480
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 4: what can we do, So we make this a unique

481
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 4: experience that we share together for the first time.

482
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,640
Speaker 3: So we don't.

483
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 4: Rehearse our together, we don't read the lines together, we

484
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 4: don't run our lines together. What happens on set is

485
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 4: is the first time that we really play is James,

486
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 4: I'm Margaret. So that's when we're James and Margaret is

487
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 4: on set, and not anytime outside of it, not even

488
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 4: to practice, or we don't even discuss it. We don't

489
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 4: even discuss what our thoughts are about what we are

490
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 4: about to do, what's coming up. We just decided that

491
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,880
Speaker 4: was the best way to deal with because it's difficult

492
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 4: when you've been with someone for so long, you know,

493
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 4: we want it to be as authentic as possible.

494
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 1: So, and what's incredible about that is, first of all,

495
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 1: it's hard to fake that kind of love. It's hard

496
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,640
Speaker 1: to fake that kind of deep, deep sort of love

497
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 1: that's been established over decades. And what's amazing what's also

498
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:05,199
Speaker 1: really hard to fake is is spontaneity. It's hard to

499
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 1: fake spontaneous, authentic curiosity. And something that strikes me about

500
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 1: your performance the two of you is both of those

501
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 1: kind of incompatible things at once a deep love established

502
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: over decades, and also this incredible spark of joy and

503
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 1: spontaneity that you find in each other. As these characters

504
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,640
Speaker 1: experience new things, they're discovering new sides of each other

505
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,239
Speaker 1: as they travel out West, in the same way that

506
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: you and Tim are discovering new sides of each other

507
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,679
Speaker 1: as you work together on this, on this incredible undertaking.

508
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 4: That's true. You are so good at this. By the way,

509
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,400
Speaker 4: can I just stop for one second and say, my god,

510
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 4: you're really good at this.

511
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: It's it's really enjoying. I do enjoy it. But it

512
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 1: also it's I think everybody on set has expressed a

513
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 1: desire to live up to this opportunity, a desire to

514
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:03,400
Speaker 1: live up to the responsibility that's been placed on your shoulders. Yeah,

515
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,719
Speaker 1: and in this moment, I feel like I feel an

516
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: incredible need to live up to the opportunity you've given

517
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 1: me to speak with you in the middle of what

518
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 1: sounds like the busiest six months in history.

519
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 4: So I don't know about that, but no, no, we

520
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 4: do feel an enormous responsibility. I mean, you know what

521
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 4: that feels like. But we all do feel like who

522
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 4: you know, so we want it to be amazing. We

523
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 4: want it to be. We want to bring these people

524
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 4: to life in a way that they're written, because they're

525
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 4: written so beautifully. And particularly Elsa, who plays our daughter,

526
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 4: oldest daughter, Isabelle may is the actor. My god, I've

527
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 4: never read a part for a young woman, a woman period,

528
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 4: but a young woman ever like that, like it's written

529
00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 4: for her. And the first time when we read the script,

530
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 4: I thought, my god, this will change this.

531
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: Actor's life.

532
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 4: It just will. And she is extraordinary in this in

533
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 4: this show. She really is. It has been a joy

534
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 4: to watch, and it's been a joy to watch everyone. Actually,

535
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 4: there's just so many great actors, everybody, you know. It

536
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 4: takes a village, all the people that you don't get

537
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 4: to speak to or see in an interview, all the

538
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 4: ones that are responsible for showing us how to do

539
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 4: the things the right way, a teaching us how to

540
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 4: ride and tie and dress and dress. Let's talk about

541
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 4: the dress, my god, the corsets. I cannot wait. I

542
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 4: cannot wait. I will miss it all. I will not

543
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 4: miss that. I will not miss the corset, my god.

544
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 4: I don't know how the women do, God bless them,

545
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 4: but it takes a village. And it's just we've learned

546
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 4: so much from everyone, the wranglers, the the stuntman and women,

547
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 4: the set design, costuming, you know how it is. I mean,

548
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 4: you do when you reach that moment, you walk on

549
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 4: to that into that space, that is helpful, you know,

550
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 4: it's helpful then to become what you need to become.

551
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. So well, really, the immersive nature of the environment

552
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: applies to the cast obviously, but it also applies to

553
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: the whole crew. The whole crew is out there in

554
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: West Texas. It sounds like in dust storms pretty often.

555
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 4: The elements, the punishing elements, have been yeah, unforgiving, to

556
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 4: say the least. And we've seen some beautiful, beautiful parts

557
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 4: of the country, you know, I mean, Montana is extraordinary

558
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 4: state in itself, and just the landscape. There's just so

559
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 4: much to see. As Like I said, the other day,

560
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 4: we were filming outside of Livingston, Montana. Have you guys

561
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 4: filmed have Yeah?

562
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: I really love it.

563
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 4: It's such a great little town, isn't it. But there's

564
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 4: just so much beauty to take in. It's like I

565
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 4: said to someone on set, I said, I my eyes

566
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 4: cannot in my eyes and my brain I can't equate

567
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 4: I wish there was a way to like register it

568
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 4: and film it in as I'm what I'm seeing because

569
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 4: photography with your phone or a camera just cannot capture.

570
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 4: You can look straight in front of you, there's one,

571
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 4: you know, scene, you can look to the left of you,

572
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 4: and it's an entire it looks like an entirely different

573
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 4: state or different place, do you know what I mean.

574
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 4: It's like it's just so beautiful, uh, same in Texas.

575
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 4: I never ever thought i'd say this about Texas. Forgive

576
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 4: me Texas people. I do love Texas actually so much,

577
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 4: but there's a beauty in that place as well. We're

578
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 4: in the Panhandle. It's flat as it can be, but

579
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 4: the wind is crazy, Like how in the hell is

580
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 4: there so much wind like flying through these planes? I

581
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 4: don't know, but I will share something really maybe it's

582
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:30,719
Speaker 4: not maybe you appreciate this, but when there's a little downtime.

583
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 4: This last week before we came out here, I had

584
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 4: a little bit of downtime in between scenes, downtime meaning

585
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 4: a couple of hours. I literally went out into the

586
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 4: field that we were working in because there's so many

587
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 4: things I've never seen, Like I don't want to say weeds,

588
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 4: but plans and whatnot. And I think this is legal

589
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,479
Speaker 4: that I did this. Yeah, yeah it is.

590
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

591
00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 4: It was. Oh my god, I'm gonna be so much struck.

592
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 4: I just went out and I was in full costume

593
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 4: and just started cutting things because I thought, oh my god,

594
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 4: that'd be so beautiful Christmas in a vase, because Christmas

595
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 4: is coming and it's not been home and we have

596
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 4: three daughters, and like, I got to get to decorate,

597
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 4: and so I thought, I'll just use you know, I'll

598
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 4: use that that's beautiful. I'll use that little brush or

599
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 4: tree or whatever it is. So I have the back

600
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 4: of our truck filled up with all these things.

601
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 3: That's right.

602
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 4: May spray paint a couple of them. I don't know,

603
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 4: we'll see it.

604
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: Really, it's funny you speak about the kind of getting

605
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: out there, getting the Montana and not being able to

606
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: take it all in and feeling this sense of sort

607
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: of wonder, And that's amazing because the characters are experiencing

608
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: exactly the same thing. The characters are heading on this

609
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: journey to a place they've never seen before, a place

610
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,959
Speaker 1: is that that fills them with this wonder, with this

611
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:58,719
Speaker 1: kind of incredible possibility. This feeling of possibility you were

612
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: talking a minute ago about is about his performance. What's

613
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: remarkable is that at the core of this show there's

614
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: a family, right, there's the Duttons at the core of

615
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: this show. And the way that you talk about loving

616
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: this journey for Isabelle's sake, sort of believing in her journey,

617
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: watching her go on this journey and wanting to support her,

618
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: wanting to sort of, you know, help her as she's

619
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: on that journey. That that really maps directly onto the

620
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 1: experience of Margaret sort of trying to help her daughter

621
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: navigate these new experiences for the first time. And Isabelle

622
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 1: speaks the same way about you, and speaks the same

623
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 1: way about you and Tim absolutely she it seems so

624
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 1: clear that that you guys have been such an incredible

625
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,320
Speaker 1: support system for each other in the same way that

626
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: this family is the support system for each other. In

627
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: the same way that that you as actors are going

628
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 1: on this new journey that's incredibly difficult and punishing new

629
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: journey into uncertain territory. That's exactly what the characters are experiencing.

630
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 1: They are right, and it really it leads to this

631
00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: authentic feel that I think could not. There's no other

632
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 1: way to capture it. So I guess all of that

633
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 1: is to say that the difficulty of it, the sort

634
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: of strenuous, punishing brutality of the West, comes through on

635
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 1: camera in a way that that sort of couldn't couldn't

636
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 1: be captured without that suffering. And the beauty of it

637
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: is the same. The sort of the joy of it,

638
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 1: the incredible immersive paradise of it, it is the same way.

639
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: So just thank you so so much for taking the time.

640
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: Thank you. It's such an honor to have you here

641
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 1: in the middle of such a whirlwind, So thank you.

642
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 4: Thank you for making the time.

643
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: Today has already been such an honor for me speaking

644
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 1: to Faith and Tim, but that's not all. When we

645
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: come back, I feel so so lucky to steal some

646
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: time with the incredibly talented Isabel May. I feel so

647
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 1: honored today to have with me in the studio Isabel May. Isabel,

648
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 1: thank you so so so much for being here.

649
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 3: Thank you for having me.

650
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: You guys are in the middle of a pretty pretty

651
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: absurd weekend. So you were working on Friday, you go

652
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: back to work on Monday. We've got you on Sunday. Afternoon.

653
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: How do you feel? What a whirlwind this must have been.

654
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 3: My eyeballs hurt. They want to go out of my

655
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 3: head just a little bit. But I'm having a blast

656
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 3: because I'm with people that I love and this is

657
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 3: it's really really nice to celebrate something that we've been

658
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 3: working so hard on.

659
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: And you would you were just saying a second ago

660
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 1: that you you really thrive in nature, you thrive in

661
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 1: wide open spaces. We talk a little bit about the

662
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 1: experience of working on eighteen eighty three, the kind of immersive,

663
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 1: fully immersive.

664
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 3: I know Taylor doesn't When he says he wants to

665
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 3: be authentic about something, he means it. And that's why

666
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 3: I currently have underarm hair. It's not going away anytime soon,

667
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,479
Speaker 3: which isn't I don't know. I'm actually kind of proud

668
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 3: of it. I want to show it off a little

669
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 3: bit because it took a while. But back away from

670
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 3: the armped air into the terrain. Yeah, no, it's it's

671
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 3: been pretty remarkable. I mean, we were in Montana, I

672
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 3: can't even maybe three weeks ago and we were there

673
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 3: for three weeks and it was one of the most

674
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 3: beautiful places I've ever been in my life, and there's

675
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 3: virtually no one there, and it was just mountain peaks

676
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:14,919
Speaker 3: and beautiful skies and stars, and and then you come

677
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 3: here to Vegas and it's just really disorienting, to say

678
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 3: the least.

679
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, from the past, you came from the you got

680
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: on an airplane and flew from eighteen eighty three to

681
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. Basically pretty much.

682
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 3: That's exactly it.

683
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 1: That's exactly what a bizarre weekend.

684
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 3: It's a very bizarre, very bizarre and we're currently moving locations.

685
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,720
Speaker 3: So we all had a pack and throw our crap

686
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 3: and trailers and cars. And I don't know where I'm

687
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 3: going after this. All I know is that I'm getting

688
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 3: on a plane and there putting weeks into some places.

689
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 1: Well, I'm so grateful for you taking the time to

690
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: do this in the midst of that whirl wind you

691
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,879
Speaker 1: described me to go. One of the things I think

692
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 1: that occurs throughout a lot of Tailor's riding, and it

693
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: is very very present in eighteen eighty three and really

694
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:59,359
Speaker 1: embodied in many ways by your character, Elsay, is these extremes, right,

695
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: sort of extreme beauty of the West, the kind of

696
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 1: romantic ideal of the West, the myth and then the reality,

697
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: the sometimes brutal, punishing, difficult reality of the West. And

698
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 1: when I think about you, you were just describing being in Montana,

699
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: the sort of idyllic beauty, the kind of edenic, amazing

700
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: paradise that Montana can be. But then also making this

701
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: show can be incredibly difficult and punishing. Will you talk about, Yeah,

702
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: your process of acclimating to this kind of workflow to horses.

703
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 3: If I'm being completely honest, I rather enjoy it, which

704
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 3: I don't know if that makes me a massacus or something,

705
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 3: but there's something really gratifying about kind of being miserable,

706
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 3: but be miserable because that's the situation your character would

707
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 3: be in. And therefore you're truly reacting the way that

708
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 3: they would react, and you're shivering the way they would shiver.

709
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 3: And I'd prefer that to pretending to be cold and

710
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 3: pretending to be sweating like crazy. And it has been really,

711
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 3: really difficult. I mean, we're shooting, we were shooting at

712
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 3: the start of this in one hundred and sixty degree

713
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 3: weather and you know, layers and corsets and whatnot, and

714
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 3: then jumping to sixteen degree weather in Montana with you know,

715
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,919
Speaker 3: up to sixty mile per hour winds. I mean, it's

716
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 3: just been everything has been an extreme. But I don't

717
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 3: think most actors get the opportunity to experience that. Everything

718
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 3: is predominantly on sound stages and in front of green

719
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 3: screens this day these days, you know. So, yeah, I

720
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 3: think I'm rather fortunate. I'm cold and whatnot, but I'm fortunate.

721
00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, those those real life circumstances ground you in the

722
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,439
Speaker 1: given circumstances of the narrative to a certain extent. Right,

723
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: exactly what an incredible gift is, as you said, to

724
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,320
Speaker 1: sort of feel cold when your character feels cold, to

725
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 1: feel hot and uncomfortable when your character feels hot and uncomfortable.

726
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,240
Speaker 1: And I just can't help but observe that the joy

727
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 1: that you find in that, the sort of pleasure that

728
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 1: you take in that sort of immersive experience, is also

729
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:24,879
Speaker 1: mapped onto your character. She's rising to this challenge. I've

730
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 1: seen the first two episodes. Your work is spectacular. It

731
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: really feels like you ground there's these extremes. Right, there's

732
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: Sam Elliott's character Shay on one end of a spectrum.

733
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 1: He's seen the brutal truth of the West. He's lived

734
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 1: through the hell of the West. And then there's your character,

735
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 1: Elsa on the opposite end of the spectrum, who is

736
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:49,320
Speaker 1: stepping into this world and rising to this new challenge

737
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: and this newfound freedom. It feels like so much of

738
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 1: what she articulates in the first two episodes is the

739
00:40:54,920 --> 00:41:00,399
Speaker 1: feeling of incredible possibility, of hope, of free eat them.

740
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 1: Will you talk about the experience of as you step

741
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:09,320
Speaker 1: into that being surrounded like those extremes to a certain extent,

742
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: having these these actors, these legends in their own right,

743
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:17,919
Speaker 1: Tim McGraw, Faith Hills, Sam Elliott, Billy Bob Thornton, the

744
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 1: these legends, as you experienced this for the first time.

745
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 3: I mean, okay, if I'm being frank, I didn't know

746
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 3: who Faith Ell and t McGraw were. They know that.

747
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 3: It's not a big mystery or anything like that. I

748
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 3: don't listen to country music personally. My tastes are a

749
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 3: little weird. I listen to jazz music and whatnot, so

750
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 3: vastly different. But I yeah, I was introduced to them

751
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 3: just as human beings on as big stars, and I

752
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 3: think they preferred that, and I certainly preferred it, and

753
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 3: it made the our relate I think it's just it

754
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 3: was such an organic kind of the love that we

755
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 3: all have for one another kind of happened right away.

756
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 3: It was so easy. It's almost unfair, Like I'm just

757
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,439
Speaker 3: I don't know how we got so lucky, but we did.

758
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 3: And and but okay, I didn't know who Sam Elliott was,

759
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 3: trying out to know who he is. And again I

760
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 3: didn't have any expectations for him either. I just wanted

761
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 3: him to be a nice person. And my god, is

762
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 3: he the kindest human being I think I've ever met.

763
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 3: And it's weird. Talking about Sam Elliott is like you

764
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 3: just kind of want to cry because it's you just

765
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 3: fall in love with him. He's so compassionate, he treats

766
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 3: everyone like gold. And oh a legacy that you know

767
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 3: he's created for himself. It's just it's just pretty remarkable. Yeah, man,

768
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 3: what a guy.

769
00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: What a guy? What a what a guy? What a guy?

770
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 1: Will you talk about your experience with horses? Were you

771
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:04,720
Speaker 1: new to riding at the beginning of all.

772
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 3: I've never been on a horse before. Were you on

773
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 3: a horse? Had you written a lot?

774
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: I had? Also? You see, it's funny, there's a lot

775
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: of similarities here and then some key differences because I

776
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,479
Speaker 1: am an idiot. Okay, cool, you know, that's that's where

777
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 1: our pasts. So you were new to this and your

778
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 1: character is quite good at it. From them. The very

779
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,839
Speaker 1: first time we see her on a horse, she she's

780
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: impressing everybody around her. Were you talk about preparing for that?

781
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I well the minute. So I found out that

782
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 3: i'd be a part of this around April, and Taylor

783
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 3: had yet to write the show, so all he said

784
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 3: was you're gonna ride horses a lot, and you need

785
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,280
Speaker 3: to look like you know what you're doing. So oh god, okay.

786
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:50,320
Speaker 3: And and I just started riding with woman named Dedri Rodriguez.

787
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 3: She's Jaye. She's amazing, and we I rode with Buck

788
00:43:55,960 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 3: and Boone, their two beautiful sons, and we just easy

789
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 3: into it that way. And then when I got to

790
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 3: Texas about three weeks before we started shooting, did Cowboy

791
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 3: Camp and that was an intensive that that was full blown. Okay,

792
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 3: now we're jumping into it and hurting cows, and really

793
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 3: what I try to do there is just observe the wranglers,

794
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 3: like you know, Tammy, Joe and Danica and all of them,

795
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 3: see how they carried themselves and how they interacted with

796
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 3: their horses. I just stared at them all day. It

797
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 3: was a little creepy, but I really wanted to kind

798
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 3: of adopt their mannerisms. They are deeply knowledgeable. Just they

799
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 3: know how to speak to horses almost they know they

800
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 3: can speak their language. And and that's what I think

801
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 3: Elsa needed needs because we're still shooting and needed to

802
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 3: be able to do is speak to her to her horse,

803
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 3: and I just I hope that it worked.

804
00:44:56,600 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: It did. That's also another immersive element of working on

805
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 1: these shows that you're surrounded by people who are incredible

806
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: at it.

807
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 3: Incredible, Yeah, I mean insane.

808
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 1: It's so funny. And you're totally right because I similarly,

809
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 1: as I was first learning, I would feel like I

810
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 1: was doing okay and realized then that my classmates and

811
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: peers were like four year olds. I would turn over

812
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: and see somebody's kid just outright me. See Gus Taylor

813
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: Sheridan's son just speeding down.

814
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 3: I mean, he's Taylor Sharon's son. So you should be

815
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 3: able to do that, you know if. Yeah, watching Taylor

816
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 3: write is I remember just the first day of Cowboy

817
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 3: Camp and seeing him hall ass or my bad whull buttter.

818
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, good hull ass around the ploodcast. Okay, I

819
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 3: don't know. I don't know what the rules are ass

820
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 3: ass and he yeah, he's an intimidating figure. But I

821
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 3: don't know. I just think it was so much fun.

822
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 3: And yeah, I didn't I'm just god, I'm so lucky.

823
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:01,439
Speaker 1: You're in process, you're working right now, Like, it's it's

824
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 1: hard to zoom out and have perspective on the whole

825
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: process when you're in the middle of it.

826
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 3: Certainly, yes, that's it. Everyone keeps acting like it's been

827
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 3: a little disorienting because we're acting like we're done sort of,

828
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 3: but we're really really not even close to Well, we're

829
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 3: getting there, but we're not close to done. So we

830
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 3: have to finish shooting three episodes something like that, and

831
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 3: we're right, we're shooting out of order. So everything's kind

832
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 3: of just combobulated.

833
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's hard to. Yeah, it's hard to. It's

834
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 1: a strange thing to be asked to reflect on your performance,

835
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: to reflect on your time on eighteen eighty three when

836
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 1: you are in the middle of it, yes, and you

837
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: are focusing and when one of the incredible gifts of

838
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 1: working on a show. As you articulated earlier, is that

839
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 1: this world is all around you. At the end of

840
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,280
Speaker 1: the day, when you feel lost, when you feel discombobulated,

841
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 1: you can look to your left and your right and

842
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: the world will ground you again.

843
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 3: I mean, that's why I'm you know, I said before

844
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 3: that I'm not sure where we're going, but I actually

845
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 3: do know where we're going. We're going to the Four Sixes.

846
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 1: Amazing.

847
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:09,760
Speaker 3: Yes, So the main hounds incredible life, and that's really

848
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 3: in the middle of nowhere. So it's going to be

849
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 3: very exciting to leave this place and enter that one.

850
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 3: And I'm already looking for properties in Montana to disappear into.

851
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 3: I heard that I think his name, mister Luke Grimes

852
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 3: did something somewhere. Yeah. It's man, these just empty, isolated,

853
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 3: beautiful landscapes. It's hard to you know, detach from. You

854
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 3: just want to sink into it. Yeah, it is.

855
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 1: It really is that that duality, right, The myth of

856
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: the West, the beautiful, sort of idyllic myth of the West,

857
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 1: is still there. The promise of it, the promise of

858
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 1: it is still there to a certain extent, alongside the many,

859
00:47:54,280 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: many complications and challenges to that myth, alongside the credible

860
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: difficulty in eighteen eighty three and today the sort of

861
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 1: crushing reality of that dream being challenged. Will you talk

862
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 1: just really quickly about one moment on set that has

863
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: felt like heaven, one moment that has lived up to

864
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 1: your idea of the legend of the West, And then also,

865
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 1: maybe if you've got it, one moment it felt like

866
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 1: hell that represented the other side, the sort of brutal,

867
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:23,800
Speaker 1: uncomfortable truth.

868
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, it's hard not to give anything away

869
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,879
Speaker 3: because all of the to answer those two questions, I'd

870
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 3: be going all the way to episode nine or ten,

871
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 3: you know, but probably in one one o two the

872
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 3: cool thing was seen Billy Bob and I know and uh,

873
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 3: Tim and sam La Monica have that scene in the

874
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 3: in the bar that was pretty epic. That's a total

875
00:48:54,640 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 3: unforgiven tombstone like classic moment that was really cool. And

876
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 3: then I can't be specific about it, but my character

877
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 3: experience is something very tragic and we recently shot it

878
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 3: and it's yeah, it's strangely just straining. It was so

879
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 3: hard to live, It's all. It's this is probably the

880
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 3: it's very easy to live today. And then when you

881
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 3: when you sink into that world, You're like, oh, life

882
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 3: is really hard. Life is really tragic and difficult, and

883
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 3: I don't know, I just feel lucky that that I'm

884
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 3: here with people that I'm surrounded by, and I get

885
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,320
Speaker 3: to drive a car two places.

886
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,959
Speaker 1: You know, you're in the middle of that process still,

887
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: you're headed back to the eighteen hundreds, and I so

888
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 1: appreciate you taking this time, this brief interlude in the presence.

889
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: So thank you, so so so.

890
00:49:58,040 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 3: Fun for you. This is so fun.

891
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 1: Thank you, cheers. Thanks again. You know, today's show has

892
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: kind of blown my mind. I feel so lucky, so

893
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 1: grateful for the opportunity to talk with those actors. Thank

894
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 1: you guys so much for tuning in. It's pretty obvious

895
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:16,800
Speaker 1: that I wouldn't be able to do this without you,

896
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 1: so thank you. We drop new episodes every Thursday, so

897
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: make sure to subscribe and tune in to the Official

898
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: Yellowstone Podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, wherever you get your podcasts.

899
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: The Official Yellowstone Podcast is hosted by me Jefferson White

900
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 1: and produced by One on One Podcast Studios and Paramount Network.