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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season one, twenty, episode

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Speaker 1: two of These Guys production of I Heart Radio. This

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Speaker 1: is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America.

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Speaker 1: Chack just says that officially off the top the Koch

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Speaker 1: Brothers and fun Fox News. It's Tuesday, February eleven. Happy

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Speaker 1: b day to my pops. Shout out to him. My

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Speaker 1: name is Jack O'Brien, a k A. Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: what days go by? St think group you. Jack O'Brien

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Speaker 1: loves his mountain do. He couldn't live without his mountain do. Alright,

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Speaker 1: that's plenty. Uh had his courtesy. Oh Christie, I'm a

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Speaker 1: Gucci man. Uh uh. I don't know for some reason

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Speaker 1: that that chorus always sounds like it's being sung by

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Speaker 1: an elderly man. To me, it sounds very much like

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Speaker 1: a robot. I don't know why. It's just got a

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Speaker 1: vo and you're hearing Jez cool bird. I think it

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Speaker 1: might be the content of the lyrics. I just kind

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Speaker 1: of like looking into an old like Garat type. He's

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Speaker 1: an old robot. Yeah, well, I am thrilled to be

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Speaker 1: joined by the other voice you're hearing right there, My

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Speaker 1: co host Mr Miles if you hit the blood right kind,

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Speaker 1: she's kinda make you happy. Okay, I'm gonna stop right there.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for that. You look. One of the only

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Speaker 1: YouTube album my own which I believe, is that album Wow,

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Speaker 1: only because at the time I didn't know. This almost

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Speaker 1: this YouTube band doing something. I had no idea of

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Speaker 1: the other songs they made, and very narrowly when this

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Speaker 1: of the album and I was like, what is this

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Speaker 1: some very heavy affected vocals. Today, we're also going on

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Speaker 1: the road miles with our time machine and superproducer Anna Hosnie.

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Speaker 1: Right now, we're taking you guys back in time in

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Speaker 1: to be joined today by the hilarious, the talented Tiff

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Speaker 1: students are damn straight, damn straight welcome. About to be

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Speaker 1: about to be a patriot? Huh? About to be supposed

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Speaker 1: to becoming a someone of an American paying into your system? Yes? Now,

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Speaker 1: what do you have to do to become a patriot

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Speaker 1: other than watch the Gibson film Patriots? Oh? God? Who

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Speaker 1: could watch that? Twenty seven hours long? It really feels

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Speaker 1: like it. I No one needs to see Mel Gibson

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Speaker 1: with a ponytail for that? Is he ledger in that? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And does he like defect or some ship or what

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Speaker 1: he killed? He gets kilt and Mel Gibson not too

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Speaker 1: happy about that really object Yeah, led is the mel

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Speaker 1: Gibson's wife from Braveheart of the Patriot because like that's

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Speaker 1: when mel Gibson starts doing the like crazy kid. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it is really sad. I remember watching that movie in

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Speaker 1: the theaters. It was like Braveheart, but America Developers trap

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Speaker 1: did it come out after Braveheart did? Because my favorite

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Speaker 1: part of Braveheart is his act. Yeah Scottish. Whatever he's

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Speaker 1: the taking my wife. I remember that was like the

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Speaker 1: cultural significance for a lot of Americans who are like

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Speaker 1: suddenly everyone's like, yeah, dude, I'm Scottish because like tiny

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Speaker 1: ass nation, like Scotland, Dude standing up to like fucking empire. Dude.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Dude, they can take our lives,

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Speaker 1: but not our lifted trucks. That was a big That

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Speaker 1: they thought. It was a weird Canadian Mountee was prevailing anyway, Tiff.

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Speaker 1: We're going to get to know you a little bit

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Speaker 1: better in a moment. First, we're gonna tell our listeners

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Speaker 1: a couple of things we're talking about today. The Biden

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Speaker 1: They're just like a bit of spite. Yeah, they're mad.

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Speaker 1: So somebody put it well after the Friday debate that

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Speaker 1: he seemed to be uh confusing volume for eloquence, like

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Speaker 1: it was interesting. Uh Trump is now the mainstream media's

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Speaker 1: consensus pick. It would seem like now that Bernie might

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Speaker 1: the existing administration. We're gonna talk about the Oscars combination

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Speaker 1: of getting the right movie and uh some just amazing

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Speaker 1: philosophical speeches from Hawaki, Phoenix, Brand pitt our leading thinkers

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Speaker 1: on the left. So we'll we'll talk about that. I

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Speaker 1: couldn't make it, unfortunately, you could go no lower down

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Speaker 1: picked up my award. That was nice. That was nice

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Speaker 1: of her. Um, it looks great though. The word looks fantastic. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's don't that you're wearing around on a chain. All

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Speaker 1: of that and more of a first tiff. We like

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Speaker 1: to ask our guest, what is something from your search

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Speaker 1: history that's revealing about who you are? So in my

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Speaker 1: search history lobsters, Los lobsters. I'm really trying to get

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Speaker 1: all of his sort of quotes have been done by women.

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Speaker 1: So he's got ones about radical self care, and he's

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Speaker 1: And then there's one about like gratitude and you know

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Speaker 1: So all on your way into a YouTube. Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And that's somehow linked to lobsters. So I was googling,

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Speaker 1: it's too I think it's to do with like dominant

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Speaker 1: male lobster behavior. And then there's a comparison between humans

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Speaker 1: So yeah, so that's why I've be looking up I've

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Speaker 1: I guess that's the hook point. But also it's used

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Speaker 1: that's why racism is okay? Right, Like you know what

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Speaker 1: And there are other people who are like this guy

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Speaker 1: is you know, he's your he's your gateway to like

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Speaker 1: the red pill on the internet. Yeah, what is something

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Speaker 1: you think is overrated? Overright? It getting fit? Okay? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because it sold to us as a good idea, isn't it?

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Speaker 1: But what if you get so fit that everyone just

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Speaker 1: people who work in the gym. Then it's just an

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Speaker 1: it's full of sweat. Gary, you got bench pressed with

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Speaker 1: an erection, It'll end in a hernia. You know, I

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Speaker 1: people in my gym. And I also don't want to

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Speaker 1: be one of those smug people who tweets just heading

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Speaker 1: I feel like those are hate crimes when I see

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Speaker 1: those on Instagram, against you, against me personally, when I

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Speaker 1: see someone like I appreciate the end results, and I

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Speaker 1: don't mind people kind of going, hey, look, I being

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Speaker 1: honest about the fact they work to get there. But

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Speaker 1: I don't want to see the video of you're doing

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Speaker 1: favorite leader of Venezuela is like that ain't left. It's

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Speaker 1: like this okay, okay, brom being propped up by you guys. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: the Biden campaign, he he had sort of a weird

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Speaker 1: weekend where um so he was at a or a

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Speaker 1: New Hampshire event and he he said something that sounded

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Speaker 1: like his brain was like just misfiring at rand he's

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Speaker 1: just been slow. You can tell he's slowly coming to

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Speaker 1: grips with the fact that the numbers are getting away

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Speaker 1: from him, you know, like he was when he was

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Speaker 1: talking about corn pop in the fucking chain, gang fighting

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Speaker 1: in the fucking parking lot of the the y or

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Speaker 1: whatever tricks man where you where you keep the razor

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Speaker 1: blade out in the rain overnight and gets rusty and

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Speaker 1: you know about that shot, Yeah, you scoundrel. Yeah. So

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Speaker 1: I guess him saying things that sounds like his brain

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Speaker 1: is misfiring is not altogether new, but I mean, like

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Speaker 1: now like he's but he's going from that comfortable confidence

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Speaker 1: to now just starting to take shots. Like you could

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Speaker 1: tell when he first got to New Hampshire. After I

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Speaker 1: it's like I took a real gut shot in Iowa,

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Speaker 1: and now he's like, you know, took a hit in Iowa,

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Speaker 1: and I'm probably gonna, you know, probably not gonna do

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Speaker 1: well here either in New Hampshire because you know, Bernie

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Speaker 1: like one most of the time, like last year and

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Speaker 1: like plus like he pretty much like owns this part

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Speaker 1: of the country because it's like a neighboring senator. It's like,

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Speaker 1: I'm the point it like he was getting really like yeah.

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Speaker 1: So then when this college student, this woman asked him

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Speaker 1: at an event, this her point her. We'll hear his answer,

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Speaker 1: but her question was, you know, given what we saw

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Speaker 1: in Iowa and how little support you had there, how

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Speaker 1: can we still believe that you are the best candidate

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Speaker 1: to beat Donald Trump? Right, like when your whole thing

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Speaker 1: is electability, right, and you're not like kind of And

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Speaker 1: he did not. He did not. I guess apparently he

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Speaker 1: wasn't looking for a gut shot from the crowd, because

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Speaker 1: then his answer is very elegant. Number one, I was

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Speaker 1: a Democratic caucus caucus. No you haven't, your lion dog

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Speaker 1: faced pony soldier you said you are, but you're now

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Speaker 1: you gotta be honest. I'm gonna be honest with you lying,

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Speaker 1: so he said, just in case he couldn't hear that,

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Speaker 1: he called her a lying, dog faced pony soldier, which

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Speaker 1: is apparently a line from an old John Wayne movie. Uh,

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Speaker 1: that's okay, or I've never heard you lying dog face soldier.

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Speaker 1: I was like when I read that quote, I was like,

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Speaker 1: that is full Colonel Kurtz from Apocalypse Now, like when

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Speaker 1: he's like talking about the snail going along the edge

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Speaker 1: of a razor blade, Like it's it's just like lying

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Speaker 1: dog face. What I don't know, I called her a

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Speaker 1: dog faced kremlin like Scott Steiner, Rob Steiner from w CW.

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Speaker 1: The The woman was like, yeah, I didn't really appreciate that, uh,

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Speaker 1: coming back from him when I'm just asking a legitimate question,

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Speaker 1: because his answer is like, what do you know about Iowa? Right, idiot?

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Speaker 1: It's like, okay, dude, whoa just answer? You know, if

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Speaker 1: you were if you were actually believed in your campaign

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Speaker 1: a bit and weren't on like your heels so much,

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Speaker 1: you might answer it with something a little bit more

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Speaker 1: like a way to answer that's more on along the

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Speaker 1: lines of yeah, it looks bad there, but you know

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Speaker 1: it's we got a lot more states to go, Brett

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Speaker 1: And yeah, maybe we don't do that well here, but

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Speaker 1: we said we gotta. We got a few more shots

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Speaker 1: at this and then I can get gut punched real good.

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Speaker 1: Get lying dog faced pony soldier. Everyone to refer to

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Speaker 1: a woman as dog faced in any kind of any

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Speaker 1: kind or lying or any person, just be like your answers, like, hey,

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Speaker 1: you liar, um, but you know we're recording the box

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Speaker 1: he attributed to John Wayne, though it's an actual providence

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Speaker 1: somewhat unclear, So more on that later. Oh so we

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Speaker 1: don't even know for sure. I don't think anyone's tracked

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Speaker 1: it down to an actual movie quote. So oh boy,

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Speaker 1: but he has used this is good to know. He

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Speaker 1: has used lying dog face pony soldier before at a

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Speaker 1: North Dakota rally in uh, saying that his brother up

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Speaker 1: to use lines from movies. There's a line in the movie,

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Speaker 1: a John Wayne movie where the Indian chief turns to

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Speaker 1: John Wayne and says, this is a lying dog face

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Speaker 1: pony soldier. H So, uh, yeah, that's just not one

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Speaker 1: necessarily that we want to How are people are really

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Speaker 1: not finding what they think it's from. I mean, maybe

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Speaker 1: it's from Pony Soldier. Maybe it's what do you mean

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Speaker 1: the like where like no one. A lot of people

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Speaker 1: are having trouble figuring out where the like what that like.

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Speaker 1: You should just be able to google it and find it.

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Speaker 1: Some people like I don't know marks for soldier. Uh wow, yeah.

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Speaker 1: So meanwhile I wanted to It's just funny the questions

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Speaker 1: about electability and he just attacks the person asking that. Okay, again,

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Speaker 1: this is the Joe Biden energy of like being the like, ah,

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Speaker 1: you come at me, I'm gonna come back at you,

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Speaker 1: you know, like, and there's like something that can be

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Speaker 1: winning out that in the right context. It's just when

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Speaker 1: your campaign is spiraling and like your energy feels a

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Speaker 1: little bit like look at my balance, it can look

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Speaker 1: a little bit like he's lashing out, which I don't

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Speaker 1: think he's intentionally lashing out. I just think it's a

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Speaker 1: bad look for him being chalked up to bounce. Yeah

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Speaker 1: it is, he was. I think he was trying to banter,

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Speaker 1: but things are coming through that he does not intend

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Speaker 1: to convince that Top bands. But it's not a top

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Speaker 1: top cringe, right, especially when a young college student is

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Speaker 1: asking you a serious question, Especially when you're hinging your

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Speaker 1: entire fucking campaign on this idea as to why you

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Speaker 1: should ignore all these other viable candidates. And then it's

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Speaker 1: like and that that I don't even understand why. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I get it. I think his point is about how

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Speaker 1: the caucus the delegates work or whatever in a caucus state.

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Speaker 1: But like, right, so Bernie Sanders seems to be becoming

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Speaker 1: either a front runner in the primaries or the front

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Speaker 1: runner in the primaries. Uh. And at the same time

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Speaker 1: that that happened basically last week after you know, as

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Speaker 1: the results in Iowa were slowly, slowly trickling out, and

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Speaker 1: even now, like a lot of people aren't accepting the

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Speaker 1: results as they are, Like a lot of the news

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Speaker 1: outlets are like, that's what they know, but they're even

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Speaker 1: like that's what they say. But we're still like, but

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Speaker 1: that's with errors included, and we've yet to hold off,

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Speaker 1: which shows you how, yeah, real a real mess. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And he seems to be pulling at the front of

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Speaker 1: the pack in New Hampshire. Um. So at the same

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Speaker 1: time that is happening, Trump got acquitted. So this could

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Speaker 1: be a total, uh you know, coincidence that those two

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Speaker 1: things are happening at the same time. But it does

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Speaker 1: feel like the media is now being more favorable to

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Speaker 1: Trump as Bernie has become a front runner um and

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Speaker 1: I think you know that partially this is just the

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Speaker 1: wind being removed from their sales by the failure of

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Speaker 1: the impeachment vote. And there's just like not much you

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Speaker 1: can say other than yeah, I mean they're lying and

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00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 1: he's lying, and they like got away with it. But uh,

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Speaker 1: you could also argue there should be like more up

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00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: in arms about Trump right now because he's been allowed

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00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: to cheat at the election and is on like a

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Speaker 1: revenge mission against the people who spoke honestly about his

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Speaker 1: campaign's crime because what acts sonland Vinman keeps tweeting this

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Speaker 1: thing about how he's going to stay in office like

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Speaker 1: for the next century, which is terrifying because of course

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00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: he has like wildly authoritarian autocratic uh tendencies. So it's

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Speaker 1: just right, it seems like he well like he's trending

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Speaker 1: in a very scary direction. And the mainstream media like,

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Speaker 1: we got a CNN piece about how Trump won the week,

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Speaker 1: and Chris Salizza was like, he got to a for

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Speaker 1: me for this week? What a what a week for

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Speaker 1: Trump um and Jason Pargeon, the current editor in chief

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Speaker 1: at my old website Cracked, pointed out that, you know

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Speaker 1: his explanation, because I tweeted something about this, his explanations.

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Speaker 1: The media is always looking for a new narrative. Uh,

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Speaker 1: And he was like, you know, the election, a lot

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Speaker 1: of people forget that. It wasn't like a big part

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Speaker 1: of it was that Trump's an idiot who's going to

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Speaker 1: lose became an old, tired story. So they were focusing

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Speaker 1: on every single slip up of Clinton. And because it's

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Speaker 1: not news to report what we already know, even it's

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Speaker 1: the even if it's the truth, there's like, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: it's now more of a story to be like Trump

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Speaker 1: is a resurgent and maybe Trump is gonna win, and

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Speaker 1: you know, but I it just seems like there's a

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Speaker 1: genuine fear of Bernie Sanders, which would make sense to

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Speaker 1: me given what I have witnessed about people in the mainstream.

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Speaker 1: It's funny too, because when it looked like Elizabeth Warren

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Speaker 1: and Bernie were the biggest challengers to Biden, it was

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Speaker 1: it was they were definitely more comfortable talking about Elizabeth

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Speaker 1: Warren too, and she came out of Iowa third and

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Speaker 1: is within the top four in New Hampshire, and it

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Speaker 1: is vying to come come away with there with some

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Speaker 1: semblance of of a win. Um. But yeah, it's weird

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Speaker 1: now that it's just there isn't even the focus there

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Speaker 1: where they would normally be trying to pick apart maybe

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Speaker 1: some of her policies. I think because they look at

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Speaker 1: the polling and are saying, well, this looks like this

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Speaker 1: is the biggest the biggest probability is that Bernie Sanders

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Speaker 1: ends up with the nomination. I guess we'll just focus

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Speaker 1: on this very myopically, just you know, the takes are

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Speaker 1: really they are weird, you know, from like it's it's

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Speaker 1: odd to say that him that Trump getting away with

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Speaker 1: crimes is a good week for him. That's not that's

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Speaker 1: not a proper plus for Trumps for the country. Yeah,

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00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: not a proper analysis of like what happens there, at

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Speaker 1: least from a journalistic standpoint. And then now like you

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00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 1: know it happened. You could see how the it was

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Speaker 1: getting starting to get shaky. When Mina Turner called Mike

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Speaker 1: Bloomberg and Oligarch and like they were like, well, hold on,

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00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 1: hold on, let's there was a lot of outrage, at

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Speaker 1: least from the pundit she was directly talking to. But

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Speaker 1: even then it became a talking point, like at least

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Speaker 1: on MSNBC and CNN, where they'd be like, can you

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Speaker 1: believe they called Mike Bloomberg and oligarch. It's like, yeah,

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00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 1: he fucking is. Let's be real here, because he was

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Speaker 1: offering to buy Instagram influences and well, this was just

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00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: this was more just born out of his like his

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Speaker 1: ability to just buy into this campaign with no grassroots

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00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: trying to buy the president's Yeah, and he's just just

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00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 1: completely saturating the airwaves with his name to buy name recognition.

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Speaker 1: And they're like, this is completely counter This is like

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Speaker 1: antithetical to the whole vibe of like what a lot

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Speaker 1: of these other campaigns are about. It's like, we're out

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Speaker 1: here at the behest of billionaires. We're here to involve

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Speaker 1: working people to create a movement to try and change things.

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Speaker 1: And they're like, I don't know, man like to call him.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he was a guy who made a lot

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Speaker 1: of money and that makes him an oligarch. It's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm assuming on his way to accumulating billions. He

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Speaker 1: made some enemies along the way. I'm sure there are

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Speaker 1: people who may have worked for him were like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't like I don't like what Mike Bloomberg did

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Speaker 1: for companies I was working with, etcetera. And I think

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Speaker 1: this idea, I think what we were talking about is

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Speaker 1: that introduces this vocabulary of like class consciousness that the

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Speaker 1: that the media tries not to really get into too much,

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Speaker 1: but it's better to make it around the race. Well,

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Speaker 1: Bernie has said that billionaire shouldn't exist, so that's then

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Speaker 1: going into that narrative is yeah, of people immediately, so

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Speaker 1: you want to punish success and like no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: there can be millionaires, there shouldn't be billionaires, and that

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Speaker 1: one should have that much power. I think I think

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Speaker 1: it was after I tweeted what I tweeted there this

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Speaker 1: clip from the Chris math You show came up where

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00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 1: he just melted down on CNN or on MSNBC, where

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00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 1: it was it was kind of like a little crack

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00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 1: in the facade where it was like, oh, there, maybe

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00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 1: their opposition to all this and their terror in the

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00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: face of Bernie is motivated by some really like deeply

642
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: held emotional based, emotionally based fears. And so let's let's

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Speaker 1: hear Chris Matthews talking about Bernie Sanders. I have my

644
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 1: own views of the word shows. Let's and I'll be

645
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 1: glad to tell them, share them with you in private,

646
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 1: and they go back to the early nineteen fifties. I

647
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 1: have an attitude about them. I remember the Cold War.

648
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 1: I have an attitude towards cash Stro. I believe that

649
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: cash Stro and the and the and the Red Side

650
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 1: won the Cold War. There executions in central parks, and

651
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Speaker 1: I might have been one of the ones getting executed,

652
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: and certain other people would be there cheering. Okay, so

653
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Speaker 1: I have a problem with people who took the other side.

654
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Speaker 1: I don't know who Bernie Bernie supports over these years.

655
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Speaker 1: I don't know what he means by so one week

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Speaker 1: it's Denmark. We're gonna be like denmok Okay, that's harmless.

657
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Speaker 1: That's a that's basically a capitalist country with a lot

658
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Speaker 1: of good social welfare programs. Denmark has Ham is pretty

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Speaker 1: clearly on the Denmark agory. Yeah you sure, How do

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Speaker 1: you know that that? Well? I mean, that's what he says,

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Speaker 1: and that's what is the genderles for right now, he's

662
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 1: not calling for a let's figure that one out. But

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Speaker 1: we haven't seen a campaign yet where video of him

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Speaker 1: praising the other version has been used. Well, but that's

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Speaker 1: will be used. That's a question place what the fact

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Speaker 1: that hasn't What does he think of Castro? That's a

667
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Speaker 1: great question. What did you think of Fetale? At least

668
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Speaker 1: moment we all thought he was great when he first

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Speaker 1: I couldn't here like many first in came the Communist

670
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Speaker 1: and started shooting every one of his enemies. Okay, Chris,

671
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: Chris Hayes is really trying to be like okay, okay, okay, guy.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at everything he said and

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Speaker 1: repeated over and over for the last ten years like

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Speaker 1: this is it's more of the Denmark thing, and uh,

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Speaker 1: Chris Matthews was was not having that. It's like Denmark, Denmark.

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Speaker 1: It's really odd, you know what I mean? And I

677
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Speaker 1: don't know, you know, I I understand at a certain

678
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 1: generation people were raised with this like just fear of

679
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: the Communism coming to get you. But like even then,

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Speaker 1: you think Chris Matthews could be somewhat objective enough to

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Speaker 1: say is the words he's using saying oh, this is

682
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Speaker 1: going to lead to mass executions or public executions in

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Speaker 1: Central pack really, And the fact that he said I

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Speaker 1: have my own thoughts that I'll share with you in private,

685
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 1: but then went on to share them like that suggests

686
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 1: to me that like this is kind of like this

687
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: is the sort of thing where he was, you know,

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Speaker 1: drink or something and like just let slip like what

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Speaker 1: he thinks we're all thinking. Because I mean that's the

690
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 1: thing is that America is still run by like a

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Speaker 1: lot a lot of these like massive corporations that are

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Speaker 1: you know, incredibly powerful, and you know, including the ones

693
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: that own and run media outfits, are run by passively racist,

694
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Speaker 1: rich white dudes who are you know, almost like in oligarchy, right,

695
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:30,399
Speaker 1: and they're scared of Sanders, like I think, I think

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00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: they would prefer like Trump's policies. Don't like the things

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Speaker 1: that Trump does don't affect them in a negative way,

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Speaker 1: so like not there on their day to day existence.

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Speaker 1: So especially if you're insulated by your class or like

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Speaker 1: wherever you are socially, Yeah, like it it would take

701
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Speaker 1: a lot of empathy from somebody who has been has

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Speaker 1: had all the material comforts for the last twenty however

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Speaker 1: many years I know Chris Matthews has been on the

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00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,280
Speaker 1: air for a long time that like, yeah, you maybe

705
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: get fired up about what it's doing to like your

706
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: historical idea of the country and how it's bad for that.

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Speaker 1: But then there, I think this is the difference and

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Speaker 1: how the pundits look at it. There there there are

709
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 1: also people who are looking at the way the country

710
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Speaker 1: is being rounded, like, no, I could become a victim

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Speaker 1: of this system. I'm only you know, a lot of

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00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: people say like I forget who it was, but saying like,

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Speaker 1: most people are three bad months away from becoming homeless,

714
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Speaker 1: and not many people are three good months away from

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Speaker 1: being a millionaire. And that's like the and I think

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Speaker 1: on some level, if you've already got your house paid for,

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00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 1: you can do like as much as you want. It's

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Speaker 1: a lot harder to be objective, or at least it's

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Speaker 1: probably abstract to you. What does what the struggle is

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Speaker 1: of somebody who might not have the same means as

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Speaker 1: you are. And that's really what this this whole ship

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00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 1: is about. It's about being like, can you be in

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Speaker 1: a place where you have all your material comforts, you

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Speaker 1: have all this support or infrastructure around you just thrive,

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Speaker 1: but also recognize that people do not, and you want

726
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 1: to make the system more equitable because it should just

727
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Speaker 1: be you. It's like, well I got mine, funk everybody else,

728
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Speaker 1: And that's the that seems to be the prevailing mentality

729
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Speaker 1: of a lot of these people. They just don't they

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Speaker 1: would never put it in those words because they would

731
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Speaker 1: recognize that that's not nice. I don't see them. I

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Speaker 1: don't see Chris Matthews saying like this is what we

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Speaker 1: need to do to help you know, the people of

734
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 1: where any given community. It's just more about like, this

735
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Speaker 1: is my opinion on this person. This is my opinion

736
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Speaker 1: on this person. I think that's where there, This is

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Speaker 1: where the appeal is of us of a Sanders or

738
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Speaker 1: Warran campaign, because there again they're diagnosing what the root

739
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: causes of your discomfort in terms of what your existence

740
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Speaker 1: is in this country. And is there a bootstrap narrative

741
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Speaker 1: as well that if people came from like hardship early on,

742
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: they're like, well I got myself out of it, so

743
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:47,399
Speaker 1: you should be. That's that's all Like America is like

744
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 1: all assumptions are built on that assumption. In America, everyone's like,

745
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Speaker 1: oh yeah, but we can all succeed, like just on

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Speaker 1: our own terms, like if we just not true, if

747
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: we just work hard enough, if they were locking and

748
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 1: we we referred to a odd maxim that is already

749
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: pointing out the absurdity in and of itself of the

750
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 1: phrase pull yourself up by the bootstraps. But I think

751
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 1: that that run by Chris Matthews there is going to

752
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 1: be important to keep in mind as the primary progresses.

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00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,879
Speaker 1: Like Crystalisma was like wrote it in his article where

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Speaker 1: he was like eight things that made this Trump's week

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Speaker 1: in Washington. Uh he said that, Like he was like yeah,

756
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,839
Speaker 1: and you know, Democrats who aren't Sanders followers think he's

757
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: the worst candidate to defeat Trump, which is like something

758
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: that only people who are specifically part of other campaigns

759
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: would say. Yankees fans think the Red Sox should not

760
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 1: win a World Series, right, okay, uh huh um. Anyway,

761
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 1: it's just really you hope again that, like you, that

762
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 1: these things could be brought into the frame, especially from

763
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 1: the mass media about what is going on these elections,

764
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: because it's much easier to just do the narrative. You know,

765
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 1: what's the fucking narrative? Arc of this campaign, rather than like,

766
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 1: what are the existential threats to people that we need

767
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,879
Speaker 1: to be talking about that we as immediate could say,

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00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 1: did you know that this company hasn't been paying their

769
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Speaker 1: taxes and what that money could do? Why aren't we

770
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Speaker 1: why aren't we examining this as a culture as a society.

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Speaker 1: Do you think healthcare is the number the number one,

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Speaker 1: the start and end of it that all the other

773
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 1: problems or is the problems as opposed to the symptoms

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Speaker 1: for how many people end up in situations because they

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Speaker 1: can't afford healthcare? Well, I mean yeah, I'd say for

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Speaker 1: most people that is probably the most broad touching everybody

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Speaker 1: in the country is your healthcare on some level. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think the student debt and like housing things also

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00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: have a dimension to it. But also that the housing

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00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: can come out of of problems with your health. So

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Speaker 1: when you see homeless people and you say, oh, there's

782
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: people there who are clearly mentally or who aren't supported,

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Speaker 1: or have a disability, or have lost a limb or

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Speaker 1: a vets, or you know that that that they're not

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Speaker 1: being being supported in the same way that we have

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Speaker 1: an NHS which is being dismantled at home at the

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Speaker 1: Americans auctioned off to you guys, someone here own dob

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Speaker 1: blood and then it got sold to China so our

789
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Speaker 1: blood plasma supplies, which is all fairly terrifying. But I

790
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 1: do think that that's the I guess that's the key issue,

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00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 1: isn't it. It's whether whether you're going to have healthcare

792
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 1: or whatever version of that is. Is it Medicare now

793
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: for everyone, or you know, an extension of what Obamacare was.

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00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: I'm not quite sure how that. I feel like that's

795
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 1: the thing. I think it begins and ends with saying

796
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Speaker 1: we're going to support you. If you did a poll

797
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 1: of people who said, if medical debt wasn't a concern

798
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 1: for you, how much would that free you up emotionally

799
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Speaker 1: mentally to put your attention and focus on other aspects

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Speaker 1: of your life. I think most people would say, wait,

801
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 1: medical medical costs aren't something i'd have to think about.

802
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 1: And again it's and everyone always talks about this. It's

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00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 1: just a uniquely American problem because it's our system is

804
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: a set up to fucking explore our own people and

805
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 1: then blame them when they can't play the game anymore.

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00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 1: They're they're putting people in jail in Kansas because they

807
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: they've defaulted or can't pay their medical debt. Yeah, you

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00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 1: will go to So this is like and that's the thing,

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00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,720
Speaker 1: Like I wish they would take more time to really

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00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:20,839
Speaker 1: examine that, Like that's the ethos here. It's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: you can't pay, well, you got to go to jail.

812
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: And the way that Medicare for All is being pitched

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00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: to Americans by the mainstream media is like, are are

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Speaker 1: you in favor of a system that would kick you

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Speaker 1: off your existing insurance? It's like that that implies that

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Speaker 1: you don't have insurance. On the other side of that equation,

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00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 1: they're just like kicked off and made defend for yourself

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00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 1: and the people to have the employer provided insurance. And

819
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 1: most people probably complain about their insurance to begin with.

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Speaker 1: Don't you want to keep that? They're like, we have

821
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Speaker 1: that in the UK as well. You can have that

822
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: as well as the you can have Booper or whatever

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Speaker 1: it's called, which is private healthcare. There's lots of companies

824
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 1: that offer that. But then there is the basic system

825
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 1: which everyone can still access and get to. So you know,

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Speaker 1: if you're diagnosed with a life threatening illness, you are

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Speaker 1: able to receive treatment whether you can afford it or not.

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Speaker 1: That's a supporting concept. But that's a supporting that's a

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Speaker 1: society that believes that we should help, you know, and

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Speaker 1: like I said, I think we're rapidly losing this, especially

831
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Speaker 1: with the Conservative government, that we haven't at the moment.

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Speaker 1: But it says we should support the most vulnerable in

833
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Speaker 1: our society and help them, and that you know, if

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Speaker 1: you earn a lot of money, you pay a little

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Speaker 1: bit more than someone who doesn't earn as much. And

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Speaker 1: that's you know, we try, and that's you know, the aim.

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Speaker 1: That's just not the that's just not really written in

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Speaker 1: stone in this country from the beginning. It's not it's like, sure,

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Speaker 1: come over man, like you're getting threatened, Yeah, we'll take

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Speaker 1: you in. But it's never like we must take care

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Speaker 1: of each other, because that's the that's the real sentiment

842
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:59,240
Speaker 1: in this country, like everyone deserves to live with dignity.

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Speaker 1: It's oh how much fucking money you got? That to

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Speaker 1: me is the probably you could apply. That's saying to

845
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Speaker 1: most problems that we have. And I think that's really

846
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Speaker 1: why I think there's there's something to these candidates who

847
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 1: are trying to realign the ship a little bit. That's

848
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 1: appealing to people because they realize, like, yeah, like we're

849
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 1: not even like we can't even actually you couldn't actually

850
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: say it's Americans, Like, yes, this country is all about

851
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,919
Speaker 1: treating every single person who happens to be a citizen here,

852
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 1: or even if you're an undocumented person, just we believe

853
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 1: people that are within these borders should be taken care

854
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Speaker 1: of so they can live. And they can't even do

855
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: that for the people they send into parts of the

856
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,399
Speaker 1: world to get oil or whatever. And we and we're

857
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 1: not doing we're not even doing the basics for our

858
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 1: soldiers where we even pretend or the media or politicians

859
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 1: pretend they're so important, they're still deployed as you know,

860
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 1: props in a State of the Union address or or

861
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:53,399
Speaker 1: or ran out on a rail from the White House

862
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: because they they dared to speak against the president. All Right,

863
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,320
Speaker 1: we're gonna take a quick rake. We'll be back with

864
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 1: coverage of the oscars. And we're back. Uh. The oscars

865
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 1: happened on Sunday night. Did you guys watch? I followed

866
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 1: it on on Twitter. I I didn't watch. I did

867
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: see when at a at a bar that I saw

868
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 1: one uh long juneho one Best Director, and then I said, okay,

869
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 1: so I think it's going. I think it's going Okay, Yeah,

870
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: parasite cleaned up. Uh that was great to see. I

871
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: feel like this is sort of part of the realignment

872
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 1: of Academy voters, or you know, the attempts by the

873
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 1: Academy to include a more diverse and younger voters so

874
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 1: that we don't always just have movies made for uh

875
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 1: old people in Hollywood winning every year. Uh. And yeah,

876
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 1: I mean just obviously my opinion, I thought it was

877
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 1: the best movie, and yeah, they gave it to the

878
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 1: best movie. That was cool. On the other hand, speech

879
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: was cool as well. Did you see that she thanked

880
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 1: her parents and that was it was cute. Yeah, her

881
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 1: mom was there crying. Yeah, she sort of said a

882
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:29,879
Speaker 1: thing of like, never meet your heroes, but if you're

883
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 1: really blessed, you're lucky enough to be born, Uh you

884
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 1: know that you're lucky enough that they're your parents. And

885
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 1: then she gave a shout out to Diane Ladden and

886
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 1: Bruce down which was quite cute. Yeah. Yeah, there were

887
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 1: a lot of actually really nice moments. I had like

888
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 1: one eye on I was at an Oscar party that

889
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:50,839
Speaker 1: involved kids, so you know, I had a three year

890
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 1: old and a one year old running around, and H

891
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 1: didn't really I was I was like watching out of

892
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,800
Speaker 1: the corner of my eye. There were some really nice moments.

893
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 1: Kids love the Oscar, yeah exactly. And they love they

894
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 1: love like love stories and narratives around class struggle. Yeah exactly.

895
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 1: My son was super excited. My one year old was

896
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 1: super pumped the Parasite wants my So. My father in law,

897
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 1: who was born in South Korea, had never been to

898
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,359
Speaker 1: a movie in the United States, a movie theater, like

899
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 1: in his entire time living here over forty years, and

900
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 1: we went to see Parasite on Thanksgiving. So now I

901
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 1: look super smart because the one I took him to

902
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,839
Speaker 1: his first movie and it was Parasite, which ends up

903
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 1: being a claimed South Korean movie and the history of

904
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 1: a season tuggle war. And he was like, Hey, let's

905
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 1: go check this movie out. It's like, you know, I

906
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 1: haven't been to a movie in forty years. He's just like,

907
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 1: you know, he's uh, he wasn't super eager to go,

908
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 1: but uh, my wife and I kind of got him

909
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 1: to go, and we're like, come, on, it'll be fun

910
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 1: to all go together to see this movie that's supposed

911
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 1: to be really good Low and Behold. So I take

912
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 1: at least partial credit it for that one. On the

913
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 1: other hand, and this is probably overblown and part of

914
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:12,359
Speaker 1: having a you know, right leaning mainstream media, but uh,

915
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: as someone who champions progressive values, having like Joakin Phoenix

916
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,760
Speaker 1: get up and give a rambling, eight minute long speech

917
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:27,360
Speaker 1: where he equates racism and social ills with taking milk

918
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 1: from cows and splitting up cow families. Was I just like,

919
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 1: don't I don't know. We're still struggling with the fallout

920
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 1: from that being done to humans by people in the

921
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 1: United States, and now I think of the animals first, right,

922
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 1: And I don't know, Like he just kind of touched

923
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: on the social stuff and then spent a paragraph talking about, uh,

924
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 1: you know, poor treatment of cows, and it's just he

925
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 1: sounds like me a new material night, just scratch out

926
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 1: some ideas on the back of yeah, on the back

927
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 1: of a beer matt And that's what what if I

928
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 1: do something about that? And that'll if I get a laugh,

929
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 1: I'll work Cow milk isn't even as good as human

930
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 1: milk anyway, Getting the light. But I do think it's

931
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,439
Speaker 1: it's it's hard, isn't it because at those awards things

932
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: that you do think most people are home watching. Just go,

933
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,800
Speaker 1: I don't want to ted talk. Just take the award

934
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 1: as people yeah, from from from what they see, Red

935
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 1: Pit opened with like like yeah, his heart was in

936
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 1: the right place. He was like you know, they told

937
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: me I could only talk for forty five seconds, which

938
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:41,479
Speaker 1: is forty five more seconds than the Republicans allowed John

939
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 1: Bolton to speak. And it was just like yeah, it

940
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: was like that's a that's a good thing to be

941
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:50,839
Speaker 1: mad about. But it's also just like, I don't know,

942
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 1: it's so there's something that just feels like these are

943
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 1: not the people that should be out there speaking on

944
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 1: behalf of progressive values. Look, if you're gonna, if you

945
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,919
Speaker 1: want to look, whatever you do with your time, that's

946
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 1: your prerogative. Obvious there, it's totally there. That's if that

947
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 1: if he likes the animal, I mean not to say

948
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 1: that those aren't important, but I think that's your time.

949
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:17,359
Speaker 1: I guess, you know, virtue signal. Let everybody know what

950
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,840
Speaker 1: you're talking about, but like to take their time to

951
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 1: point out the John Bolton in the impeachment thing shows

952
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 1: you at what elevation you're looking at the problems, right,

953
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 1: because if you go deeper than that, you might say

954
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 1: something about you know, maybe Flint, Michigan, or all the

955
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 1: homeless people that you pass on a daily basis in

956
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 1: the city you live in, something like that, and I

957
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 1: think that's where you start. It's like, bro, that was

958
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 1: like a two week old take. Also, well, the the

959
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:47,320
Speaker 1: he also did a choke that was the Golden Globes

960
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 1: about to Leah about there was room for you on

961
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:51,479
Speaker 1: the door, and I was like, oh my god, every

962
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:56,360
Speaker 1: stand up when the film came out there on the

963
00:56:56,360 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 1: door in Titanic, right, yeah, yeah, that joke. But but

964
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 1: also I do think I don't have a problem. I

965
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 1: think if you've got a platform, you should use it.

966
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 1: But what I'm keen on is put demonstrative overperformative. So

967
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 1: if you talk the talk, you better walk the walk

968
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,479
Speaker 1: as well, because I think that's what pisces people off

969
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 1: if they feel like someone's lecturing them, going I'm better

970
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 1: than you and you should care about this, and then

971
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 1: they go, how did you get here? Did you fly

972
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 1: on a private jet? Did you how much money did

973
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 1: you spend on X this month, or like this kind

974
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 1: of idea of moral top trumping, which we can all

975
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 1: engage in to some degree, but you know, personal responsibility

976
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 1: versus social responsibility. You know, that's when when I think

977
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 1: when people at home watch that, and you know, Ricky

978
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 1: Jervais kind of said it didn't he at the at

979
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 1: the Golden Globes, which is just get up, thank you

980
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 1: God or whoever else it is, and your agent and

981
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 1: then get off, because I don't know if this is

982
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 1: the you know. But but then also I believe that

983
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 1: storytelling is important and is a way of highlighting all

984
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 1: of these issues. And yeah, it's tough because people are

985
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 1: sort of dancing near the edges of what could be good,

986
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 1: so it's hard to define it. It's in the vicinity,

987
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 1: but there's something quite not connecting fully with those moments.

988
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 1: And then he also slid in a thing about cancel culture,

989
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:24,919
Speaker 1: like we're better when we come together, not like criticize

990
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 1: and cancel each other, and that got a lot of

991
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 1: right wing media on his side. Washington Examiner Joachein Phoenix

992
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 1: was right about cancel culture. The federalist cows aside. Joaquin

993
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 1: Phoenix made a strong argument against Cancel National Review Joakin

994
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 1: Phoenix criticizes cancel Culture and Oscar's acceptance speech, and it's

995
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, I mean, he has reasons to be

996
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 1: afraid of cancel culture based on that his behavior with

997
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 1: Casey affleck on U on the set of that movie

998
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 1: I'm not here or whatever. But don't most people feel

999
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 1: like that, like the idea of like giving him some

1000
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 1: kind of badge because he said that. I think a

1001
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:16,439
Speaker 1: lot of people are like, Okay, well, you know, it's

1002
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 1: better to allow people to recover from mistakes. However, you know,

1003
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 1: we I think we talked about this last time I

1004
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 1: was on the show. Repeatedly and consciously doing shit or

1005
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 1: saying horrible things is with intention is one thing? Actually

1006
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, but you know someone sucking up and then

1007
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 1: learning from that is you know, that's the way. But

1008
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 1: I think or else we start just cornering off into

1009
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:46,439
Speaker 1: just like you know, people who don't give a fuck

1010
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 1: and will continue to give a fuck less to the

1011
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 1: point of like that it becomes catastrophic people who do.

1012
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 1: I mean, there is yes, I think there is something

1013
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 1: to be examined a bit with cancel culture, with like

1014
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 1: sort of hard canceling people and be like you're you're

1015
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,480
Speaker 1: you're off to the refuse pile or whatever. But also

1016
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 1: just like even when you think about this like an election, right,

1017
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 1: you can't just be if you voted for Trump, like

1018
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 1: we can't look after look out for those people are

1019
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 1: trying and bring those people into a movement, because I

1020
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 1: think that's where, you know, all this power moves very fluidly,

1021
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 1: and when you start putting very rigid barriers down, that

1022
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 1: can affect that that flow, that fluid motion of things.

1023
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 1: Not to say that you go like oh, hey, like violent,

1024
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 1: uh you know, hate crime, serial killer, like you you're

1025
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 1: really sorry. Okay, maybe we can like you know, make

1026
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 1: you can run a child daycare now or something. But

1027
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 1: I think there's still has to be there. People have

1028
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 1: to think though too, you know, like there have been

1029
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:48,479
Speaker 1: times where I've had an opinion on something not even

1030
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 1: like as you know, high Stakes is like a political

1031
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 1: ideology maybe just like on a fucking puka shell necklace

1032
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 1: where I'm like, I ain't changing my necklace because everyone

1033
01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 1: says it looks stupid, and then people start telling you, man,

1034
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 1: it looks fucking stupid. And then I know people who

1035
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:05,440
Speaker 1: still wear a fucking puka shell necklace, because they've been

1036
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 1: so like they've been so polarized here that they're like

1037
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 1: the second I take this off, the fucking win. Yeah.

1038
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 1: And it can't always be like that. It could be like,

1039
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 1: you know, you can take it off, and we can.

1040
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 1: We just took it off. Nuance, isn't it? And I

1041
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 1: feel like nuance is so important within all of these

1042
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 1: if we make it's just yeah, it's but it's I

1043
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 1: think they're my My overall point is just that we

1044
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 1: have a bunch of rich white centrists slash conservatives who

1045
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 1: claim to be liberals, who are all best friends with millionaires,

1046
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 1: and they are like the public faces of progressive values.

1047
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 1: We have this story about how Barnes and nobles tribute

1048
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 1: to Black History Month was to redesign the covers of

1049
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 1: classic novels to make the protagonists from those novels black, like,

1050
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 1: basically putting their characters from literature and blackface. Not living

1051
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 1: up to the second part of that night right, the

1052
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 1: opposite of Emma Emma with a with an African American

1053
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:14,439
Speaker 1: woman as Emma. Wow, yeah, Moby Dick. Well. Their whole

1054
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 1: the whole reasoning was that it's like, well, none of

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Speaker 1: the protagonists in these books are explicitly like defined by

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Speaker 1: who they are. But it's like have you read Emma,

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Speaker 1: you know where they are, right, there's no black people there.

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Speaker 1: But if I'm okay, I'm in what England? Okay, I

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Speaker 1: don't think so. Otherwise it's a that would be a

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Speaker 1: trippy ask book where you have to write those details in.

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Speaker 1: That's just so disingenuous that there's like, well it doesn't

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Speaker 1: say like exclusively, but you know, like if they wanted

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Speaker 1: to highlight diversity and literature, they could have I don't know,

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Speaker 1: highlighted some authors of color. Yeah, yeah, yeah, But it's

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Speaker 1: just it seems like the same thing where I don't

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Speaker 1: know more and more like I'm seeing seeing people's frustration

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Speaker 1: with the mainstream media and instream culture and even like Hollywood.

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Speaker 1: Uh and you know, understanding the frustrate it was there

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Speaker 1: not one person though who when that was pitch went

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Speaker 1: or that means you don't have anyone working there. Well

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Speaker 1: of the publishing industry is white. Yeah, so by those numbers,

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Speaker 1: and you know when you even look if you look

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Speaker 1: at even how like the studios we talked about this

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Speaker 1: last week of how they breaks down demographically like at

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Speaker 1: the highest levels of the studios, it's like white and mail,

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Speaker 1: So you're not going to get a lot of dissenting

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Speaker 1: opinions in there, and the ones that are, I don't

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Speaker 1: know how well they operate in an ecosystem like that,

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Speaker 1: um if they're you know, if they're just ran out

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Speaker 1: or whatever. One thing that is interesting though about uh

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Speaker 1: Parasite is just how you know, the whole thing has

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Speaker 1: brought capitalism into like interview, and that's interesting to see

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Speaker 1: that even the vote there, there was something about the

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Speaker 1: film that spoke to people. Obviously it's a great film,

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Speaker 1: but I think it speaks to it there's something that

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Speaker 1: people are starting to connect like huh, yeah, this is weird.

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Speaker 1: And also Bong Juno himself was saying like, no matter

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Speaker 1: what country he went to, the answer is about like

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Speaker 1: how people are receiving him film were the same of

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Speaker 1: sort of like what's this system doing to us? You know?

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Speaker 1: And it's funny when you see like the there's a

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Speaker 1: article from what is it Real Clear Markets. Definitely they're

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Speaker 1: saying Bong June Hoo's Parasite is overrated, implausible, class struggle, nonsense,

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Speaker 1: and that's when you see him like oh, who are

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Speaker 1: the people who have takes on this and what are

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Speaker 1: the takes about? And they're like that that that that

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Speaker 1: that don't start, don't start, you know, getting these people

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Speaker 1: pumped up on like how the how the power? I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is kind of my struggle. This is kind of

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Speaker 1: my frustration. Is my struggle, Well, this is my frustration

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Speaker 1: is that, like the Drudge Reports headline is we're all

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Speaker 1: parasites exclamation point politics dominates oscars under a picture of

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Speaker 1: Joaquin Phoenix. So there's very elegant, uh, you know, the

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Speaker 1: thing that's going to be a timeless work of art

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Speaker 1: criticizing you know, capitalism gets lumped in with these very

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Speaker 1: clumsy ass like dumb statements from Joaquin Phoenix, and it's

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Speaker 1: just like, I don't know, it just frustrates me that, well,

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Speaker 1: it's done so brilliantly in the film, isn't it, Because

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Speaker 1: it's done, it's done with the story, but it's done visually,

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Speaker 1: the layers of who's on top and who's underneath. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's this beautiful you know, you can kind of see

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Speaker 1: how many steps they have to go down even to

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Speaker 1: get like with how the trains set up people, what's

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Speaker 1: at the front of the train, in the back of

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Speaker 1: the back of the train. But it's done, it's done

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Speaker 1: on so many it's affecting in so many ways, and

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Speaker 1: it says so, I don't know how it manages to

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Speaker 1: do that in one film, because it's the fact that

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Speaker 1: the guy who has been spoiler alert, like one of

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Speaker 1: one of the people who represents, you know, the lower

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Speaker 1: part of that equation is views the person, the rich

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Speaker 1: guy who lives in the house as like this hero.

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Speaker 1: I think it's like such a nuanced but like brilliant

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Speaker 1: and like true it's like, oh, class solidays with the

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Speaker 1: ruling class. Yeah, so yeah, those in the middle because

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Speaker 1: then because you realize that the family that you think

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Speaker 1: of the worst off aren't. Actually this is a spoiler,

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Speaker 1: but I wanted to say, there's a beautiful bit in

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Speaker 1: that um where the dad says, you don't make plans

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Speaker 1: because if you make plans, they never work out anyway. Like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a it's a it's a piece of art and

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Speaker 1: it's but it's also brilliantly entertaining and so funny. I

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Speaker 1: didn't expect it to be as funny as it was. Yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: but I can see how there would be people out

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Speaker 1: there who are fearful of what the film is saying

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Speaker 1: to protect their states and the director, I think it

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Speaker 1: was one of the filmmakers for that American uh Factory.

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Speaker 1: What was the what was the movie The American Factory

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Speaker 1: right the that net is a Netflix documentary. When she

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Speaker 1: said workers of the world unite, like from the Communist Manifesto,

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Speaker 1: people were like the Daily Callers like Oscar Winner quotes

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Speaker 1: Communist Manifesto. It's like, even though that film, I think

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Speaker 1: some people were a little maybe a little critical of

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Speaker 1: how it's sort of both sides ng the sort of

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Speaker 1: dynamics between the factory owners and the workers was still

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Speaker 1: was enough there for people to start of be like, WHOA,

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Speaker 1: that's kind of fucked up. Um, but yeah, it's it

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Speaker 1: seemed to be a theme uh people are I don't know,

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Speaker 1: looking at looking at these films and what they offer

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Speaker 1: us in terms of insights. Well, Tiff, it's been a

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Speaker 1: pleasure having you. Where can people find you? Follow? You

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Speaker 1: I'm updating all of that. So Tiff Stevenson dot co

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Speaker 1: dot uk. And is there a tweet or some other

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Speaker 1: work of social media you've been enjoying. Yes, one of

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Speaker 1: that happen. Does that happen sometimes? What people making out

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Speaker 1: on the tube during rush hour? Oh yeah, like people

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Speaker 1: I just like the meat heads that let out like

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Speaker 1: always like, okay, these guys are like three songs away

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