1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to Haunted Road, the production of I Heart Radio 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: and Grim and Mild from Aaron Minky listener. Discretion is advised. Hey, gang, 3 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: this is just a quick reminder that I have a 4 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: massive fall tour coming up starting in September, and so 5 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: if you want to head to my website Amy dash 6 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: Brunei dot net and click on the appearances page, you 7 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: can see if I will be anywhere near you. A 8 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: lot of these do have meet and great options too, 9 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: So if you want to get a photo of me 10 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: or ask me a question personally, this is your chance. 11 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: I can see just looking at my schedule, I'm going 12 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: to be in California, Arizona, Georgia, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, New York, Ohio, Texas, 13 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 1: Louisiana and more. So please check it out and hopefully 14 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: we will get to meet in person and talk about 15 00:00:49,720 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: spooky things my favorite. Recently, I was fortunate enough to 16 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: visit the city of law Corunia, Spain. High on my 17 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: list of spots to see in town was the Tower 18 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 1: of Hercules, the oldest lighthouse in operation today. Historians believe 19 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: it was built over two thousand years ago by the Romans. 20 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 1: As I stared at the ancient tower. I couldn't help 21 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: but think of all the lore and fascination around lighthouses. 22 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: After all, one cannot undermine their importance in the maritime world, 23 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: and before the age of electric lights, pressure and importance 24 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: placed on the keepers who tended to them. This particular 25 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: lighthouse has a major legend associated with it, involving Hercules, 26 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: hence the name. Legend has it that the legendary Greek 27 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: hero came in search of the giant Garion, who ruled 28 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: over the lands between the Doro and the Tagas, to 29 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: free the people from his unbridled power. Their struggle lasted 30 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: three days and nights, after which time Hercules defeated the giant, 31 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: beheaded him, and buried his head by the sea. To 32 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: celebrate his victory, he built over a burial mound a 33 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: tower lighthouse, and in the vicinity of it he founded 34 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: a city he named Kruna or law Coruna, after the 35 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: first woman who inhabited this place and with whom the 36 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: hero fell in love. Certainly a legend, but definitely a 37 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: reflection of lighthouses and the mystique they seem to hold 38 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: over us. We don't have any two thousand year old 39 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: lighthouses with heads of giants buried beneath them here in 40 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: the States. But we do have a lot of haunted ones, 41 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: and I've investigated a ton of them, But one holds 42 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: true to its very well known reputation as being the 43 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: most haunted lighthouse in America in my opinion anyway, And that, 44 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 1: my friends, is the St. Augustine Lighthouse in St. Augustine, Florida. 45 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: Let's head there shall we. I'm Amy Brunei, and welcome 46 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: to haunted road. High above the Florida coastline, a light 47 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: shines across the darkened seas, guiding ships into port. In 48 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: some ways, the lighthouse in St. Augustine is a beacon 49 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: of safety. But the centuries old structure in America's oldest 50 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:14,239 Speaker 1: city is full of history, some of it unspeakably tragic, 51 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: and today it's one of the most haunted locations in 52 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 1: the country. It's certainly one of the most haunted locations 53 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: I've ever visited, which is why I go back again 54 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 1: and again to discover St. Augustine lighthouses secrets. But it 55 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: wasn't always full of ghosts. In fact, for a long 56 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: time it was full of families living their lives as 57 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: keepers of the Light and protectors of the coastline. First 58 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: founded in fifteen sixty five by Spanish explorer Pedro Melendez, St. Augustine, Florida, 59 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: is the first place in North America to be colonized 60 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: by Europeans, beating the British settlement of Roanoke by two years. 61 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: Melenda's named the city after St. Augustine because the sailors 62 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: on his expedition first spotted the land on that Saint's 63 00:03:56,000 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: feast day August. At the time Melenda's colonized St. August 64 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: seen about forty miles south of present day Jacksonville. The 65 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: land had long been occupied by the Temuqua tribe, whose 66 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:10,119 Speaker 1: land stretched from what's now southern Georgia to central Florida. 67 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: Historians estimate that there were as many as two hundred 68 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: thousand members of the Temuqua tribe in Florida at the time. However, 69 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 1: disease introduced by the Europeans decimated them so much that 70 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: within two hundred years, fewer than one hundred Temuko were 71 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: left alive. There were also French forces present in the area, 72 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: whom Melenda's and his explorers defeated to claim the land 73 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,559 Speaker 1: for Spain. Today, St. Augustine is a city of about 74 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: fifteen thousand people and is a popular tourist town in Florida, 75 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: not just for its forty two miles of pristine Atlantic beaches, 76 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: but for its history, haunted and otherwise. If you've watched 77 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: Kindred Spirits, you might remember seeing an episode about the 78 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: old St. Augustine Jail, where Adam and I made contact 79 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: with spirits of the former warden and prisoners who had 80 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,919 Speaker 1: been executed there. In fact, St. Augustine is home to 81 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: what some claim is the real Fountain of Youth, rumored 82 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: to have been discovered by Ponts. Dally On in fifteen 83 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: thirteen in his Explorations of Florida's coast. You can visit 84 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: it today at the Fountain of Youth Archaeological Park, though 85 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: no promises about whether you'll actually feel younger afterwards. But 86 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 1: I can promise you, though, is that the water coming 87 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: from the fountain tastes heavily of sulfur, So shoot it 88 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: like a shot of bad tequila and hope for the best. Though. 89 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: The lighthouse that shines over St. Augustine's water is on 90 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 1: the site of what's described by local tourism organizations as 91 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: the oldest permanent navigation aid in North America. Today's lighthouse 92 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 1: isn't the original structure. Spanish settlers first built a wooden 93 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: watch tower at the northern end of Anastasia Island in 94 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: fifteen eighty nine. According to the St. Augustine Lighthouse a 95 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 1: Maritime Museum, the watch towers were erected by the Spanish 96 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: crown during the building of the Castillo da San Marcos 97 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: to keep enemy ships from taking Anastasia Island. While the 98 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: height of that original watch tower is unknown, the second 99 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: watch tower, built in the early seventeen hundreds, was thirty 100 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: feet tall. That structure built of kakuina, which is a 101 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: shell rock, and would lasted for almost one hundred forty years, 102 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 1: according to the St. Augustine Lighthouse and Maritime Museum. After 103 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: the French and Indian War made Florida a part of 104 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 1: the British Empire, the Brits added thirty feet of wooden 105 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 1: construction to the existing structure in seventeen sixty three. It's 106 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: at that time that the structure first became a lighthouse, 107 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,359 Speaker 1: with the intention of protecting incoming ships from the dangerous 108 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: sandbars in the inlet at the northern end of the island. 109 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: Sometimes called the Crazy Banks. When Spain regained control of 110 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 1: Florida in seventeen eighty three, the Spaniards tore down the 111 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: British additions to the tower, making it just a watch 112 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: tower and not a lighthouse again. Then in eighteen twenty one, 113 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: the United States gained possession of Florida and the tower 114 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: was once again converted into a lighthouse in eighteen twenty four. 115 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 1: According to these St. Augustine Lighthouses records, Juan Andreu, a minorcan, 116 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: was paid three hundred fifty dollars a year to care 117 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: for the lighthouse and ten the ten oil lamps set 118 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 1: in silver bowl shaped reflectors. One Andrea who served as 119 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 1: the lighthousekeeper until his death in eighteen forty nine, and 120 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: members of the Andrea family would keep the light until 121 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: the Civil War. In eighteen fifty four, the lighthouse saw 122 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: a major upgrade the installation of a fourth order revolving 123 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: fresnel lens that measured nine feet high inside the more 124 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: than fifty foot tall tower, which the lighthouse keeper would 125 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: have had to climb inside to light the whale oil lamps. 126 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: As the Lighthouse Museum describes, the jewel like lens was 127 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: handmade just for St. Augustine in Paris, France, by the 128 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: company of Solder and Lemonaire. It represented the height of 129 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: Victorian engineering and technology and cast its being much farther 130 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: out to sea than its predecessor. The new light now 131 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: demonstrated three fixed flashes from three bulls eye panels that 132 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: could be seen from up to nineteen to twenty four 133 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: nautical miles, depending on atmospheric conditions. In eighteen fifty nine, 134 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: lighthouse keeper Joe's of Andrea, Juan's cousin, fell sixty feet 135 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: to his death at the lighthouse. As Eleanor Dwyer describes 136 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: it in her Guide to Florida Lighthouses, Andrea fell when 137 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: a faulty support on the scaffolding had given way as 138 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: he was whitewashing the tower, which was one of his 139 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: job duties. In an issue of Spyglass, Kelsey Lloyd quotes 140 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: Andrea's obituary, which paints a horrifying picture of his fall. 141 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: He first struck the roof of the oil room about 142 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: thirty feet below. Once he glanced off and struck the 143 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: stone wall which encloses the lighthouse, and thence to the 144 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: ground a stone parapet. After Joseph's death, his widow, Maria Andrew, 145 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: became the lighthouse keeper. She was the first female lighthousekeeper 146 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: in Florida and the first Hispanic American in the United 147 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: States Lighthouse Service. In an article for the Lighthouse Museum 148 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: about Maria, Kimberly King writes, tradition has it that Maria 149 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: went to the top of the lighthouse to call out, 150 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: what shall I do? Reportedly, she heard her husband's voice 151 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: on the wind tell her to tend to the light. 152 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: During the Civil War, Confederate sympathizers removed the lens from 153 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 1: the lighthouse, hiding it away for the duration of the 154 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: war with the intention of blocking shipping to the North 155 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: and supplies to the Union troops. During the Civil War, 156 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: Confederate sympathizers removed the lens from the lighthouse, hiding it 157 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: away for the duration of the war with the intention 158 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: of blocking shipping to the North and supplies to Union troops. 159 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: Maria was on duty at the time. Some sources claim 160 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: that she shot and injured a Confederate soldier named Joseph 161 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 1: Pasetti as he tried to smash the lens. Others, however, 162 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: believe that Maria must have known of the plan and 163 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: provided access to the lens room. When the U. S. 164 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 1: Navy recaptured St. Augustine, the lens was found and reinstalled, 165 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 1: but not without some difficulty. In a museum article, Paul's 166 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: Lensky writes that Northern troops arrested Paul are now the 167 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: mayor of St. Augustine, and sequestered him on the Union 168 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 1: gun boat Isaac Smith until he revealed the location of 169 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: the lighting mechanisms for the St. Augustine Light and other 170 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:04,079 Speaker 1: lighthouses in the area, including Cape Canaveral. The lighthouse was 171 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,079 Speaker 1: re lit in eighteen sixty seven, but at that time 172 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: was showing serious signs of erosion. According to lighthouse friends. 173 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: On July one, eighteen seventy the distance from the keeper's 174 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: dwelling to the high water mark was seventy feet, but 175 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,439 Speaker 1: by November the distance had shrunk to just forty feet. 176 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 1: The lighthouse board determined that a new lighthouse was needed, 177 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 1: and a five acre tract located a half mile inland 178 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: was acquired. After old Spanish land grants and claims of 179 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 1: settlers were straightened out. Construction began on the new lighthouse 180 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: in eighteen seventy one, but tragedy soon struck Hezekiah Pitty, 181 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: the superintendent of lighthouse construction, lived on site with his 182 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 1: wife Mary and their children, Mary, Adelaide, Eliza, Edward and Carrie. 183 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: During the construction, workers used a railway cart to move 184 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: supplies from supply ships to the building site, which the 185 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: children used to play and when it wasn't in use. 186 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: In a Lighthouse Museum article Kelsey Lloyd right, they used 187 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 1: the cart as a Victorian era roller coaster, riding the 188 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: cart to the water and bringing it back up to 189 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: the site to write again. Only a wooden board at 190 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 1: the end of the rails stopped the cart from tipping 191 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: over into the water. On July tenth, eighteen seventy three, Mary, Eliza, 192 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: and carry Pitty, along with a ten year old African 193 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: American girl whose name isn't known. We're playing with the cart, 194 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: not realizing that the board wasn't in place to stop 195 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: the cart. When it reached the end of the track, 196 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,439 Speaker 1: the cart flipped over, landing in the water and trapping 197 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: the four girls underneath. While a worker named Dance Sessions 198 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: saw the event take place and race to dive into 199 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: the water to rescue the girls, he was too late. 200 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 1: Three of the four girls drowned. Only four year old 201 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: carry Pitty survived. According to reports, the whole town shut 202 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: down to observe the funeral. More than a year later, 203 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: in October eighteen seventy four, the new lighthouse became operational. 204 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: Three keepers kept the light going in eight hour watches, 205 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: which required carrying a thirty pound can of lard oil 206 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: up the two hundred fourteen stairs of the tower and 207 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: winding the two hundred seventy five pound weight that made 208 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: the lens move. The lightkeepers would also sometimes be called 209 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: upon to rescue sailors whose ships had founded on the 210 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: nearby sandbar. In eighteen seventy five, a new keeper's house 211 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: was built on the site to accommodate the number of 212 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: men needed to keep the lighthouse operational. Five years later, 213 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: the old tower fell into the ocean. In eighteen ninety four, 214 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: keeper Joseph Frantia's wife Mary, died on the property. Things 215 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: got much easier for the lightkeepers in nineteen thirty six 216 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: when the tower was wired for electricity. In nineteen fifty five, 217 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,599 Speaker 1: the keepers were replaced by a lamplighter who turned the 218 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 1: light on and off in between. The lighthouse served an 219 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: important role in World War two, when the US Coast 220 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 1: Guard was stationed at the lighthouse around the clock on 221 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: the lookout for German boats. With lightkeepers no longer needed 222 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: on the property of the keeper's house was boarded up. 223 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 1: In nineteen seven, it burned down under mysterious circumstances and 224 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 1: was restored from four to nine eight. Today the lighthouse 225 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: operates as a nonprofit and has restored the structure to 226 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: how it appeared in eight with a spiraling black and 227 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: white pattern and a red roof. At one sixty five 228 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: feet tall, it is St. Augustine's oldest surviving brick structure. 229 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: While it's still an operating lighthouse, it's also open for tours. 230 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: People come to see the gorgeous, serene landscape and the 231 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 1: pristine shores of St. Augustine. They also come looking for ghosts, 232 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: and there are a lot of ghosts to be found nowadays. 233 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: The St. Augustine Lighthouse is famous around the world for 234 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: the remarkable paranormal activity that staff and visitors witnessed there 235 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: in the keeper's house. A relief lighthouse keeper in the 236 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: nineteen fifties reported hearing footsteps on the second floor, but 237 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: couldn't find anyone when he went looking for the source 238 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 1: of the sound. James Pippen, the last keeper to live 239 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: on site, Sir from nineteen fifty three to nineteen fifty five. 240 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: He first lived in the keeper's house, but eventually moved 241 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: to a much smaller building on the property, saying that 242 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: the big house was haunted and he would not stay 243 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: another night in it. During renovations to the house when 244 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: it was being restored in the nineteen eighties, many people 245 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: reported unexplained incidents on the site, especially in the basement, 246 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: which had not burned in the fire. In that basement, 247 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: people have reported seeing the shadow figure of a man 248 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: and feeling a column of chilly air as you might expect. 249 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: The lighthouse itself has many reports of paranormal activity. Staff 250 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: report that they will bolt a door before leaving for 251 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: the night, only to find it wide open in the morning. 252 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: Even doors that are supposed to trigger an alarm. Music 253 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: boxes in the gift shop are said to start playing 254 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: on their own. Disembodied children's laughter has been reported throughout 255 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: the lighthouse, and some people say they've heard a woman's 256 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: voice calling for help. Guides claim that they have been 257 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: touched by spectral presences in the middle of tours. One 258 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: guide Matt Laddick told a reporter rather recently, I had 259 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: my ankle grabbed. That was pretty amusing since it was 260 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: in the middle of my tour, so it looked like 261 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: I just randomly tripped over air. A ghost has also 262 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: been blamed for a visitor who found her shoeley suddenly 263 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: tied to the lighthouse stairs. People have reported seeing a 264 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: shadowy figure peering down over the railing of the staircase. 265 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: One guest has claimed to take a photograph of a 266 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: woman standing on the gallery deck near the top of 267 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: the lighthouse when no one was there. Some have speculated 268 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: that this is the ghost of Maria Andrea, who sometimes 269 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: seen on the gallery deck in a white dress, her 270 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: long dark hair blowing in the ocean breeze. Some think 271 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: it's one of the girls who died in the railway 272 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: car accident. The girls, it's believed, appear more frequently in 273 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: bad weather. Ghosts of the girls, commonly believed to be 274 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: playful spirits, have been reported over the years in and 275 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: around the lighthouse. They have been blamed for the gigglings 276 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: sometimes heard in the tower, as well as mysterious child 277 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: sized footprints that have shown up when no children were 278 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: present in the area. An employees stated that one such 279 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: footprint resisted his attempts to clean it for several weeks, 280 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: only to vanish from the floor as suddenly as it 281 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: had appeared. A group of paranormal investigators using an E 282 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: MF meter in the basement of the keeper's house asked 283 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: if the girls wanted to play hide and seek, only 284 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: to see a spike in the meters. A woman in 285 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: the group wandered the basement with the meter. When she'd 286 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: see a spike. She'd asked the girls if they wanted 287 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: to play again, only to search the basement for their 288 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: next hiding spot. The girls have been seen as full 289 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: bodied apparitions in and around the lighthouse over the years, 290 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: often said to be wearing blue velvet dresses. Once, a 291 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: young girl in a Victorian outfit was seen sitting on 292 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: a bench reading a book. According to paranormal tour group 293 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: Old City Ghosts, visitors to the lighthouse described catching flashes 294 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: of a young girl dressed in old air of clothing, 295 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: gazing out from the lighthouse door or standing by the 296 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: upstairs window. The ghost of this young lady is rather 297 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: pleasant and rarely interacts with visitors, as Kelsey Lloyd writes 298 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: a woman on a ghost tour approached another woman to 299 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 1: compliment her daughter's behavior on the tour. Confused, the woman 300 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: said she had no daughter. The other woman then told 301 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,360 Speaker 1: her that a little girl had been standing by her 302 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: side most of the evening. There were no children on 303 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: the tour that evening. Another common apparition is a menacing man, 304 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: sometimes believed to be Joseph Andrew, the lighthouse keeper who 305 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: died from the sixty footfall, known as the man in Blue, 306 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: he wears overalls or a suit in his namesake color, 307 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: and is said to terrorize workers, chasing them up and 308 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: down the stairs of the lighthouse. One worker was so 309 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 1: frightened that he quit his job over the activity. People 310 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: claim to hear the disembodied screaming of a man whose 311 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: somebelieve is a lighthousekeeper who hanged himself in the basement, 312 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,959 Speaker 1: though there is no historical record of a hanging suicide 313 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: on the property. A construction worker on the keeper's house 314 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: restoration project in the nineteen eighties claimed to have seen 315 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: a spectral hanging man Enjoyce Elson Moore's book Haunted Hunter's 316 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: Guide to Florida, She writes of the construction workers experiences. 317 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: According to Moore's book, he said he was told by 318 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 1: a local who had talked with David Swain, the assistant 319 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,679 Speaker 1: keeper from nineteen thirty three to nineteen forty four and 320 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: lamplighter from nineteen fifty five to nineteen sixty eight, that 321 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: Swain said a visitor from the sea had hanged himself 322 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: in the building in the nineteen thirties, and that Swain 323 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 1: claimed a man's footsteps would follow him from the house 324 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: to the tower. The workers had so many accidents occurred 325 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: on the job there that he and some fellow tradesmen 326 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 1: quit after six months. The mysterious smell of cigar smoke 327 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,719 Speaker 1: and the sound of heavy boots on the lighthouse stairs 328 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: have been blamed on the man in blue. Some also 329 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 1: associate the cigar smoke with the ghost of Peter Rasmussen, 330 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: the lighthouse keeper from nineteen o one to nineteen twenty four. 331 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: Rasmussen was the longest serving keeper of the lighthouse, who 332 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 1: was a smoker and who also deeply disliked tourists visiting 333 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 1: the lighthouse. Some claimed to hear the ghost of keeper 334 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: William Harn, who served from eighteen seventy five to eighteen 335 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 1: eighty nine, Harn died of tibur ulosis contracted during his 336 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: Union Army service. In some say you can still hear 337 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 1: him coughing in the parlor of the keeper's house. So, 338 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: since we've started digging into the spooky side of the lighthouse, 339 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 1: I wanted to bring someone on who has investigated with 340 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: me there numerous times and has had lots of crazy 341 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 1: experiences there as well. Up next in his Haunted Road debut. Finally, 342 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 1: we will be chatting with none other than psychic medium 343 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:43,719 Speaker 1: Chip Coffee. That is coming up after the break. All right, 344 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 1: I am sitting here with my dear friend, Chip Coffee. 345 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: I really wanted to talk to you about the lighthouse 346 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: because one, I've been wanting to get you on Haunted 347 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 1: Road for a long time, and to you and I 348 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 1: have investigated it together on a number of occasions, and 349 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 1: so we've had a lot of really wild experiences there, 350 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: and I think you also have kind of the interesting 351 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 1: perspective of coming at it from a psychic medium standpoint, 352 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: which I find very interesting too. And so the reason 353 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: why the lighthouse, I believe, is so popular as far 354 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: as being haunted, I mean, I think that locals knew 355 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: it was haunted for a very long time. But what 356 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: happened was Ghost Hunters was filming there in season two. 357 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 1: So the show ghost Hunters was insane Augustine, and they 358 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 1: had filmed at the Old City Jail and or the 359 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: Old Jail, I should say, and they were supposed to 360 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 1: film somewhere else, but it fell through, and a number 361 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:40,400 Speaker 1: of people told them they needed to investigate at the lighthouse, 362 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 1: and somehow it came to be, and so they end 363 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 1: up investigating there and they got what I think is 364 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 1: probably one of the most compelling pieces of evidence ever 365 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: captured and shown on paranormal television. Basically, what happened is 366 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: they got a really great e VP of someone saying 367 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 1: help me in the lighthouse, and then they got to 368 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: video captures of a shadow figure when you look up 369 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 1: that kind of spiral staircase. One was kind of a 370 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: brief look down and then darted away really fast, and 371 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: then the second one was you literally see that head 372 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: kind of look over down at them and then back up, 373 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:20,239 Speaker 1: and it has become kind of this iconic photo from 374 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,959 Speaker 1: the lighthouse. People take that still all the time and 375 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: we've seen that shadow. You've experienced that shadow, right, Chip, 376 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 1: I have, I have one of the times that was 377 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: there with Strange Escapes, I was actually with a group 378 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: and we were looking up into the up into the 379 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: top of the lighthouse and we saw something leaned over 380 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: the banister and look down at us. It was very creepy. Yeah, 381 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: and it's he's seen a lot. I'm assuming it's a heat. 382 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 1: I don't know, but you know, he has seen quite 383 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: a bit. And it's interesting because lighthouses they do have 384 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: this really strong residual energy, and I feel like that's 385 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 1: kind of what's fueling the shadow gear. And you have 386 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 1: to be very careful when you're investigating the lighthouse because 387 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: it is very echoy It is almost pitch black, and 388 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,959 Speaker 1: they're like, you know, obviously it's very tall. As we know, 389 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 1: we've both walked up it a couple of times, almost 390 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: to our deaths going up there. Because by the time 391 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 1: you get up there, I don't care how fit you are, 392 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 1: you are huffing and puffing and you just think, oh 393 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: my god, now I've got to go back down. And 394 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,239 Speaker 1: then I feel like a jerk, because you know, like 395 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: these lighthouse keepers, it was literally their job to go 396 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,479 Speaker 1: up there multiple times a day. Better them than us, right, 397 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: I guess that's one way to stay healthy. You're like, 398 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: I just climb a lighthouse four or five times a day. No, 399 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: thank you. I think it's the original StairMaster or something. 400 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 1: You know, you keep keep on going. I wish they had, 401 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: like I think we talked about this before, like some 402 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: sort of like pulley system where you could just slowly 403 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: lower yourself back down. I said, like a fireman's pole 404 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: or like a slide and a kid's I had to 405 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 1: go up there again. They have to rig a voice 406 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 1: to get me up to the top of this lighthouse. 407 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: So well, that being said, there was so much space 408 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: between the bottom and the top, and I feel like 409 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: there are maybe a couple of little windows, but it's 410 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: very dark. Other than that light kind of coming from 411 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 1: the very top. Even at night, there is that kind 412 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: of ambient light which you can see if there's something 413 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: up there. You do have kind of a background you 414 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 1: can see. But it's easy for that to kind of 415 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: play tricks on you as well, like that different lighting 416 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 1: in the shadows and everything. And then, like I was saying, 417 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 1: the sounds bounce around a lot, but if you're very 418 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 1: still and you sit at the bottom with that lighthouse 419 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,199 Speaker 1: and you have a you know a few people in 420 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 1: there looking up very quietly. You will hear footsteps, you 421 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 1: will hear voices, and if you're lucky, you will see 422 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: that shadow. And we heard whistling, whistling. You know, we 423 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 1: whistled a couple of times and we got whistled back at. 424 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 1: And that's a common thing with you know, all what 425 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: that are goes hunting or investigating, they will often whistle. 426 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: And you've mentioned that, you get it, and we've gotten 427 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,360 Speaker 1: results with that. One of us knows why. I don't 428 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 1: think the whistling thing is always interesting to me because 429 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: I have done a few cases where you know, we 430 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,360 Speaker 1: would whistle and get a response. I remember one time 431 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: we were whistling Yankee Doodle and I remember that, yeah, 432 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: and something finished it for us. And so it's kind 433 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: of that, you know how we always do that shave 434 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: and a haircut knock, And there are just certain things 435 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: from certain time periods that everyone relates to and they 436 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: can't help but finish it, Like you can't leave Yankee 437 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,959 Speaker 1: Doodle Dandy hanging. You've got to finish that. And so 438 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: maybe I mean, I'm completely guessing here, but if I 439 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 1: were a lighthousekeeper, and you're trudging up those steps day 440 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,360 Speaker 1: after day, probably by yourself a lot of the time, 441 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 1: even though their families were there. You're probably whistling, you're 442 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 1: probably humming, you know, probably doing anything to kind of 443 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 1: keep yourself busy, because that is such a job that 444 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: involves routine, mean and times, like you're doing things at 445 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: the exact same time every day. You're doing the exact 446 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 1: same thing every day. And while those activities might seem mundane, 447 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 1: they are literally life or death in the maritime industry. 448 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: Like you had to do that, And so I feel 449 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 1: like those lighthouse keepers probably took their jobs very, very serious, 450 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 1: and it's probably why they're haunted. Do you think that 451 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 1: maybe they just kind of feel this sense of having 452 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: to return or having to kind of keep up at 453 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 1: the job and make sure it's being taken care of. 454 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 1: I think it's duty and responsibility, and beyond that, you 455 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: have to be very committed to do a lighthousekeeper job. 456 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: You have to make that commitment just say that I'm 457 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 1: going to do this every day. I'm going to take 458 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: this responsibility very seriously and honestly saying that. You really 459 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: almost have to love that job. It has to be 460 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: something that you really really love doing because many times 461 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: you've got your family there with you and a relatively 462 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: small amount of space, So you gotta love what you do. 463 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: And so from a psychic medium standpoint, because you have 464 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: that ability, I do not have that ability. I think 465 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 1: you've got some intuitive abilities, Bruny, I really do. I 466 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: think that you can sense things when you go into things. 467 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 1: But beyond that, and we'll talk about what it's like 468 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 1: to have a psychic medium friend in a moment. Like 469 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: you've been into many lighthouses, I take it right, Is 470 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 1: there like a different energy in them? Do you sense 471 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: something different in a lighthouse than you do in other locations? 472 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: I think I sense just what we've talked about. I 473 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: sense that the people that are there have this affection 474 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 1: for where they're at. They've grown to love that location. 475 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 1: And I'm not surprised that in death, if you go 476 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: back looking for them, that you're going to find them. 477 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 1: They're gonna stay there. I mean, think of Rose Island 478 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: Lighthouse and the history there also, not only at St. Augustine, 479 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: but at Rose Island, the keeper was still there and 480 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,439 Speaker 1: other people re encountered other people at the lighthouse. A 481 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: little boy if I remember correctly. At Rose Island, you know, 482 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: it's not uncommon for families to really imprint on those locations. 483 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,919 Speaker 1: So that's what I think I feel is that not 484 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: only that interactive energy that's there with us that often 485 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 1: pops up and gives us what we want as far 486 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 1: as interaction with us, but also that residual energy that 487 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: they left behind because of all the time that they 488 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 1: spent and shared there. I do think it's that kind 489 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: of that imprint of their routine and their duty. But 490 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 1: then there's also sometimes more intelligent hauntings. I found both 491 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: there where you have someone who will actually interact and 492 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: then you also have someone who just is kind of 493 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 1: going about their day, you know. And that's like even 494 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 1: at Rose Island, which I'm sure we'll cover on Haunted 495 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 1: Road eventually, but we triggered that ghost by making the 496 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: sound of the cannon fire, because the cannon fire was 497 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 1: his queue to go up and light the light, and 498 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: so we played cannon fire and next thing you know, 499 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 1: you hear these footsteps going the tower. And I think 500 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: it's kind of similar at St. Augustine. But there is 501 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: so much other history there as well, and a lot 502 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 1: of it involved families like there were the deaths of 503 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 1: some little girls nearby, and people hear those girls all 504 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: the time, not just in the lighthouse, but in the 505 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 1: keeper's quarters and on the grounds itself. Did you sense 506 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 1: them at all or have any experiences with them? I did, 507 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 1: and it was in the exterior part of the of 508 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: the property that I kind of felt them. I didn't 509 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 1: even know the history of the lighthouse where I went there. 510 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: Sometimes if you're going to a famous place and you 511 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: know you're going to go there, you might know the 512 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: history of the location. But I didn't. I had not 513 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: researched it. And when I first went there with you 514 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: and the Strange Escapes Company, I you nothing, and I 515 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 1: sensed these kids, and that was a little confusing to me. 516 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: I figured maybe there were kids there at some point 517 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 1: in time, but I picked up that there were little girls. 518 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: And later I was informed that there had been a 519 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: tragic accident where some girls were playing in a cart 520 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: of some sort and the cart went over the side 521 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: of a cliff or something and they plunged into the water, 522 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: and several of them I think were killed in that accent. Yeah, 523 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 1: there were four of them, and three of them passed away. 524 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: And I mean it was a huge deal in the town. 525 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: There was a big funeral and they all mourned, and 526 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 1: you know, it was just it was a major tragedy 527 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: and something you wouldn't expect at a lighthouse per se. 528 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: So it's interesting that you picked that up. The other 529 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: thing I've encountered there is now this is something I 530 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 1: didn't know actually until I went through the history for 531 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: this episode. What's interesting is that the basement is the 532 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: one original part of the house, so they have redone 533 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: everything else, and so the basement is the only like 534 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 1: original original part of the Keeper's quarters. So it's so 535 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 1: strange that we see the shadow down there all the time. 536 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: But going back to that, I did have a group 537 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: down there that I was investigating with one night and 538 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: I just got a feeling like something felt off and 539 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 1: kind of unnatural. And I'd been looking at this group 540 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: and the dark as we did an e VP session 541 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: for a number of minutes at this point, but something changed, 542 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: and I'm just looking at them and it's pitch dark, 543 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: but i can see their outlines because there's a little 544 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: ambient light from a window up in the corner, and 545 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: it dawned. I mean, I'm like, I don't think I 546 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: remember that man sitting there, And there's these two women 547 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: sitting and there's this man in between them, and all 548 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: I can see is their shadow and their outlines, and 549 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: so I'm like, let me count my group, because I 550 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: knew how many people were in the group, So I 551 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: started at the end and I'm like, let me count here, one, two, three, 552 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: And I get back to where this man was and 553 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 1: he is not there anymore. And I look at the 554 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: two women in the dark, and I'm just like, um, 555 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: excuse me, and like I put my flash shight on 556 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: and like I shine at the floor. I never like 557 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 1: to shine in people's eyes because one makes them feel 558 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: like they're being arrested, and two, it's like there they 559 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: lose their night vision instantly, So I always put down 560 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: at the floor just to get a little light. And 561 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: I look at them and I'm like, was there just 562 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 1: just a man sitting in between you? And these two 563 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: women just went like wide eyed, like what are you 564 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: talking about. I'm like, oh, well, there was a man 565 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: sitting there a moment ago. I'm lucky those two didn't 566 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: go running out of there. I probably would have would 567 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: have been a little freaked out. By that. But you know, 568 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 1: even in that location when we were there, I was 569 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: there with you and Adam at one point in time 570 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: in that that area, and you know, it was we 571 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: got a few EPs of remember correctly, and you know, 572 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 1: maybe some of the other equipment went off, but we 573 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 1: were definitely getting interactive energy when we were in that 574 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 1: basement here. Oh yeah, And I even saw a shadow 575 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 1: in the other room at one point. And I think 576 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: this was maybe like the next year that we went. 577 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: So if you don't know, I own a company called 578 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: Strange Escapes and we go to say in Augustine Lighthouse 579 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: almost every year, and so we're going again this September, 580 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: so next month, and it was I was sitting and 581 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: I remember just seeing a shadow figure just walk right 582 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: past the doorway and the other room in the basement. 583 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: So I don't know who this shadow is. And yes, 584 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: we have gotten of wild E vps there as well. 585 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 1: Adam and I actually recently just filmed at a lighthouse 586 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: for another TV show. We did a crossover and that 587 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 1: one was even taller than Saying Augustine And when you 588 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 1: get up to the top, your legs are like shaking, 589 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: and I'm like, am I terrified? Or am I exhausted? 590 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: What is happening here? I remember that Greta, my travelers 591 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: sistant in BFF, and I went to an event once 592 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 1: when we were in Enzicola, Florida, at the naval station, 593 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 1: and there's a lighthouse there and when you walk up 594 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: the steps, the stairs are not solid, they're like webbed 595 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: and you can see down through it. And I'm afraid 596 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 1: of heights anyway, and I'm like, oh no, this is 597 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: not good. And it was rainy and windy, and we 598 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: got to the top and I'm standing up there and 599 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, why did I do this? I'm like having 600 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: vertigo and I'm going to pass out or something. And 601 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: Greta and a couple of other people that had gone 602 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 1: up with us, they were out on the on the 603 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 1: on the outside of the lighthouse, walking around and the 604 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: wind is ripping in the rain is ripping. They're like, 605 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: come on out, and I'm like, no, thanks, I'm not 606 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 1: gonna do this. Not happening. And then I realized, oh crap, 607 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: I've got to go back down those stairs that I 608 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 1: can look down again at and I'm like, why did 609 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 1: I ever do this? But I fear you, you know, 610 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 1: you're dead by the time practically did you get to 611 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: the top. But it's worth it. Let me get back 612 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: to that. It's worth doing just once. Yeah, And actually 613 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: that is the lighthouse that Adam and I were at filming, 614 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 1: so I can't say who we were with yet. And 615 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: it was slippery. Adam was like trying to hold onto 616 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: the wall. I've actually not ever seen him so afraid 617 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 1: in the lighthouse. I also one time was in the 618 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: Absecon Lighthouse, which is in Atlantic City, New Jersey, and 619 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: I was in that in the middle of a storm 620 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 1: filming ghost hunters. That lighthouse was swaying in the wind 621 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 1: and I was like, what, this doesn't seem normal, and 622 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 1: you know, you're up there filming and it's literally moving, 623 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 1: and they said it was designed to do that, and 624 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 1: I was like, well, I am designed not to be 625 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 1: in this lighthouse right now, so us like goodbye. No, 626 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: I would have that would have been yet for me. 627 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: I would have lost all control of my body functions 628 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 1: and died on the spot. Thankfully, saying Augustine does not sway. 629 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:15,760 Speaker 1: But I do think St. Augustine is probably the most 630 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: active lighthouse I have been to. It is very reliable 631 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: in the sense that like, if you walk in there, 632 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 1: especially at night, and you're quiet and you take the time, 633 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 1: you are going to have an experience, and not just 634 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 1: in there, but in the keeper's quarters or on the 635 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 1: grounds itself, Like something will happen for you as long 636 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 1: as you are patient and quiet, Like I don't think 637 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 1: I've ever not had something happened there, and the times 638 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 1: that I've been there, you're absolutely right there, totally willing 639 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,320 Speaker 1: to come out and interact. Yeah, well, we're having a 640 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 1: Strange Escapes there in September. If you're listening to this 641 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: before September two, you should come join us. We are 642 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 1: going to be investigating there and the old jail and 643 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: saying Augustine. Saying Agustine is one of my favorite towns. 644 00:34:58,160 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 1: It is just so much fun to visit. There's that 645 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 1: really cool old fort there. There is the Fountain of Youth, 646 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 1: like it is the definition of tourist town, but it 647 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,919 Speaker 1: doesn't feel like it. It's a great place to visit. 648 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 1: So if you want to come with us, please do. 649 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 1: You can visit the website at Strange dash Escapes dot com. 650 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,919 Speaker 1: That is my haunted travel company. I have not yet 651 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,839 Speaker 1: convinced Chip Coffee to join us, but you never know. 652 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 1: And now that you've brought up Strange Escapes, let me 653 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 1: put my two cents worth it about Strange Escapes. There 654 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: are a lot of companies that do this kind of event, 655 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 1: or a number of companies, let's put it that way, 656 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 1: And there's some very large events, but Amy's events are 657 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 1: more intimate. You can really spend time with the people 658 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:40,320 Speaker 1: that are the speakers and the talent that are there. 659 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,439 Speaker 1: You can interact with them, and you get a lot 660 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 1: of that personal time to share with us when we're there. 661 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 1: You put your all into making it a really positive 662 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 1: experience for the people that attend. I congratulate you for that. 663 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 1: You've you've done a great job. Well, thank you. I 664 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 1: appreciate that very much. And I always tell people when 665 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 1: they come out, I'm like, you going to be sick 666 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 1: of us by the end of this weekend. Yes you are. 667 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 1: We're pretty we're pretty available to the people that Yeah, 668 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 1: it's a lot of fun. So but regardless, even if 669 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 1: you're not coming to Strange Escapes, I hope everybody enjoyed 670 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 1: hearing about the lighthouse and chatting with Chip and I 671 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,839 Speaker 1: really appreciate you taking the time to join me. It's 672 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 1: been a long time coming. I really have wanted you 673 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 1: to talk to come onto the podcast, so finally I'm like, yes, 674 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 1: this is the perfect place. So I really appreciate you 675 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 1: taking the time. Thank you. You know, there's just about 676 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,760 Speaker 1: nothing you could ask me to do that I wouldn't 677 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 1: do for you. Well, thank you all. I love you 678 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 1: very much. I love you. I will hopefully see you 679 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,919 Speaker 1: very soon. I'm going to predict that you will see 680 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 1: me very soon. We can't say anything more than that, 681 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:49,359 Speaker 1: but I will see you in a few days. All right, Well, 682 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 1: thank you. I appreciate you. Thank you, Darling. When I 683 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,439 Speaker 1: was growing up, my grand father had an intense love 684 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 1: for lighthouses. It was probably to his detriment because then 685 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 1: everyone just kept giving him lighthouse themed gifts for the 686 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 1: rest of his life, which he always graciously accepted, of course, 687 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,400 Speaker 1: But I do remember losing count of them when we 688 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 1: were cleaning his office after he passed. I don't think 689 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:21,280 Speaker 1: I fully understood the infatuation a sailor like him would 690 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:25,800 Speaker 1: have with them until I started investigating and researching them myself. 691 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,879 Speaker 1: Not only do I now understand why they still act 692 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 1: as beacons for so many on land and by sea, 693 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 1: but I can comprehend why they would be filled with 694 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,799 Speaker 1: energy and ghosts. There's a reason I've been called to 695 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 1: so many to investigate, and I guarantee I will be 696 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 1: visiting many more and probably covering more of them here 697 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:47,319 Speaker 1: on Haunted Road. Until then, I will leave you with this. 698 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 1: Don't ever forget that, just maybe you are the lighthouse 699 00:37:52,239 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 1: in someone's storm. I'm Amy Brunei, and this was Haunted Road. YEA. 700 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,279 Speaker 1: Haunted Road is a production of I Heart Radio and 701 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 1: Grimm and Mild from Aaron Mankey. Haunted Road is hosted 702 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 1: and written by me Amy Bruney, additional research by Taylor Haggerdorn. 703 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 1: The show is edited and produced by rema El Kali 704 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 1: and supervising producer Josh Thing and executive producers Aaron Mankey, 705 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,799 Speaker 1: Alex Williams, and Matt Frederick. 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