1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the Best of the Odd Couple podcasts. 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Be sure to check us out live every weekday from 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: four to seven pm Pacific seven to ten pm Eastern 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for The 5 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: Odd Couple on Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream 6 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,639 Speaker 1: us every day on the iHeartRadio by searching FSR. 7 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 2: You're listening to the best of the Odd Couple. 8 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: Jerry's been going at it since this thing started about 9 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes ago, and we'll get some sound for the 10 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: guys at that in just a minute. But there's another 11 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: side of that, and that is the other side is 12 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: the Packers gave up a couple of first rounds picks 13 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 1: and that had been on the radar Martin for about 14 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 1: a week or so. It's been the reports that the 15 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: Packers have been interested in getting Micah in his services. 16 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 1: So a couple of reason why this is interesting. One, 17 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 1: the Packers don't like to pay a bunch of money 18 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: to free agents. Okay, ends table in comparison, Okay, because 19 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: the go ahead. Yes in comparison, ye yeah, in comparison 20 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: in other teams. They don't typically spin like other teams do. 21 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: And of course historically they've had a bunch of success, 22 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: so you can obviously point. You can say, well, look 23 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: we do pretty dog on well doing things our way, 24 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: so going to get him. Another thing that makes us 25 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: interesting for the Packers is they're the younger, one of 26 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: the youngest teams in the entire NFL, and then they 27 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 1: get a guy who's only twenty six and he's still 28 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: just really entering his prime and it can be a 29 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: remarkable force for them. So when you're the Packers, you're thinking, 30 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: you got your guys sold up, you got Jordan Love 31 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: by the way, signed to the same agent, and now 32 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: you got these two guys on the same team. 33 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 3: We'll talk about that a little bit later. 34 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: You got to be feeling good and you're in the 35 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: division where some people say it's the Lions. Some people say, man, 36 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: the Vikings is going to be right back where they 37 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: were even with JJ because the defense is too good. 38 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 3: All he has to do is manage it. 39 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: Some people highing the Packers, some even have the Bears 40 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: being much much better than they were last year when 41 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: you look at that division. To me, in this new 42 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: signing of Micah, do I think it makes it difficult 43 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: at times for the Lions. Yes, and that's the team 44 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: I still feel who is the best in the division. 45 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: Even with the acquisition of Micah for the Packers, I 46 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: think the Lions. Yes, they lost some coordinators big time. 47 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: That's a big deal. I'm not gonna belittle that. However, 48 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: they didn't lose any core of that offense. They still 49 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: got Laporter, they still got the running back combination that 50 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: has been deadly for now a handful of years. They 51 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 1: still got Williams Jomo, they still got Imen around Saint Brown, 52 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 1: who's one of the best safety blankets in the entire 53 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: NFL and can still score a bunch of touchdowns. And 54 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: I think they also have a Jared Goff who was 55 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: ticked off of how he performed in the postseason against 56 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 1: a rookie, and Jaydon Daniels. So I still look at 57 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 1: and inleand your head coach too, who creates the kind of 58 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: the mantra, the vibe, the ethos of the team. So 59 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: I still look at the Lions as the team to 60 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 1: beat in that division. I understand J. J. 61 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 3: McCarthy. 62 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 1: I am not as high on JJ even though from 63 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: an arburnt Michigan not as high as other people are. 64 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 3: So to me, the Lions this is yours to lose. 65 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 3: Do I think you go fifteen and two. 66 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 1: No, you may go back a couple of games thirteen 67 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: or twelve even, But I think it's their division. I 68 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: think the Packers did what they're supposed to do and 69 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: trying to secure it. And also think what they did 70 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 1: with this Martin was say, Jordan Love, we didn't gave 71 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: you the bag. We didn't got arguably one of the 72 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 1: best one, two three defenders in the league. This is 73 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: your run to do what your predecessors have done. Brett 74 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: Favre got a ring, went to a couple of Super Bowls. 75 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers a couple of Super Bowls, got one. 76 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 3: This is your run. We got you the money early. 77 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: We got a guy on your on your you call 78 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: like a record lay who he's on you. You're saying 79 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: an agent, We've got some young talent around you who 80 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: hopefully should be growing and getting better. This is the 81 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: run way, let's go. And I think they say, now 82 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: you're in your runway that we've done with Aaron Rodgers, 83 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: we did with Brett fav You're up. 84 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 4: I think that this is definitely a bet on, obviously 85 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 4: a big bet on Jordan Love, which the biggest bet 86 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 4: of Jordan Love was giving him all that money. As 87 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 4: you said, both of these players repped with by David Legetto. 88 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 4: So obviously, when you have a relationship with an agent Dallas, Jerry, 89 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 4: I know you're talking right now, but when you get off, 90 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,559 Speaker 4: if you catch the podcast, when you have a relationship 91 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 4: with an agent, it is easier to get deals done. 92 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 3: It's football GM in one on one. I know you've 93 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 3: been there. 94 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 4: Longer, Jerry, but you know, sometimes fresh eyes can help 95 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 4: see a scenario. But for me, I had real questions 96 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 4: about the other. To me, every team in the NFC 97 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 4: North has major questions. 98 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:37,919 Speaker 3: And it was the best division. 99 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 4: In the NFC last year when you look at the 100 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 4: top of the teams, and then even Green Bay I 101 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 4: only won one game in division, but you know everybody 102 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 4: would talk about them, was a pretty good team. And 103 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 4: then Chicago obviously dumpster fire last year in terms of 104 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 4: coaching and everything else, but promising you on rookie and 105 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 4: Kayleb Williams, and you got a head coach in Ben 106 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 4: Johnson who a lot of people are very very high on. 107 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 4: So reasons for you know, optimism in Chicago, although they 108 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 4: would be like if you're just looking at the record, 109 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 4: be like why the buy one hundred bears? The Lions 110 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 4: losing both their coordinators. To me is this is the 111 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 4: most important offseason in Lions history. This has also been 112 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 4: the most prolonged success the Lions have had in thirty years, right, 113 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 4: and this is the first real time where you are 114 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 4: paying the price for success. So which kind of head 115 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 4: coach is Dan Campbell? Is the answer we are going 116 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 4: to get this season? Because to me, one of the 117 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 4: things that completely is over i mean underrated in Kyle 118 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 4: Shanahan's career is his ability to both hire and fire 119 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 4: coordinators every single year when they were really on their 120 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 4: hot streak, really on their run. He was losing passing 121 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 4: game cordators, offensive cooridators, defensive coordinators, and didn't matter because 122 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 4: Shanahan was continued to hire people and he was like 123 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 4: he kept hitting out of the park. And the one 124 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 4: time that they made the mistake at defensive coordinator, they 125 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 4: lost in the Super Bowl at overtime. Okay, now did 126 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 4: it as a resulted in the Super Bowl? No, But 127 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 4: there's a lot of teams Jerry Jones right now with 128 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 4: trade a whole lot to have the success the forty 129 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 4: nine has had in the postseason over the last five 130 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 4: years compared to what he has. Are you the forty 131 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 4: nine ers or are you the Eagles? The Eagles lost both. 132 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 4: They went to the Super Bowl, and everybody says Jalen 133 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 4: Hurts had a great game in that game. He did 134 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 4: have a fumble six in a game that they lost 135 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 4: by a touchdown, right, but they were still in the 136 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 4: Super Bowl. 137 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 3: A team that had a super Bowl level type of roster. 138 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 4: They lose both their coordinators, fall off a cliff second 139 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 4: half of the season. One to nine dog walked in 140 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 4: the playoffs, losing the wild card to Tampa, and then 141 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 4: all of a sudden boom, make the right hires again in. 142 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:55,679 Speaker 3: The Super Bowl, win the Super Bowl. 143 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 4: Right now, the forty nine has had some injury disreptioncies 144 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 4: there too, Lion, should everybody back what type of coaches? 145 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 3: Dan Campbell? 146 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 4: That's the answer that we get right here, because I agree, 147 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 4: fifteen wins, I don't need to see that, But I 148 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 4: need to see a team that is still a top 149 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 4: of the NFC North because this roster, to me, is 150 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 4: the best in the NFC North. 151 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 3: Minnesota too many questions at quarterback. I went to Michigan. 152 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 4: I was clapping and standing on the table when they 153 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 4: ran the ball for the twenty seventh straight time against 154 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 4: Penn State. You know, oh, I was just so excited 155 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 4: because that's just kype of football, a that I love 156 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 4: to watch. But also I thought JJ McCarthy put the 157 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 4: ball at risk. I know he didn't throw a lot 158 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 4: of interceptions. Watched the Rose Bowl, Caleb Down, Shoa and Shorter. 159 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 4: That's a pick, Marcus May, that's a pick, right, he 160 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 4: would just overthrow easy pass. He just he wasn't a 161 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 4: we're jumping up the tenth to get that guy. I 162 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 4: think that's what was shocking for me. 163 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: I think speaking for you too, where nobody's saying he 164 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: can't be a late first round. All he did was win. 165 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: But the jump of the tenth was like, wait, did 166 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: I miss something? Because I swear I thought I saw 167 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: just about every pass in his career. Did I miss something? 168 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: So we're gonna find out who he is. 169 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 4: But one of the most interesting to me sliding door 170 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 4: moments in the last sliding door moments where if one 171 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 4: thing went a little differently, the whole league would have 172 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 4: been in a different spot. Aaron Jones ran for like 173 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 4: one fifty something in that wildcard game when Green Bay 174 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 4: was remember they were the first I believe seven seed, 175 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 4: the first extra wildcard team to win a playoff game. 176 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 4: They go into Jerry's world, they beat Dallas and Aaron 177 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 4: Jones runs all over them. The Packers let Aaron Jones 178 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 4: walk to Minnesota make Jordan Love at that point the 179 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 4: highest payed quarterback in football, and Michael Parsons was on 180 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 4: that roster for Dallas and got crushed for being quote 181 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 4: unquote invisible. In that postseason game, the Dak played terribly 182 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 4: as well. Jerry Jones today just said one of the 183 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 4: things that we need to show up with we need 184 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 4: to be able to stop the run. 185 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 3: And I know he's thinking about that game in this moment. 186 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 4: And if you in fact think, if you're Jerry Jones, 187 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 4: and you in fact I think that Michael Parsons is 188 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 4: not worth this money, not worth this type of deal, 189 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 4: because even though there's a discrepancy in what he was 190 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 4: offered compared to what like ultimately so there was a 191 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 4: big gap of a five million dollars there, which is 192 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 4: pretty significant. But I again, if there had been like 193 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 4: maybe just regular negotiations here, who probably could have found 194 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 4: a middle ground because Michael was his son advised to 195 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 4: stay in doubts, he said he wanted to stay Jerry. 196 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 3: I can't imagine Jerry's. 197 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 4: Not thinking about those playoff games, thinking about how Michael 198 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 4: Parsons wasn't quite there. 199 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 3: And if he thinks that this is a massive. 200 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 4: Overpay, then good job by you, because the Lions are 201 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 4: gonna be really good in this division. 202 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 3: The Vikings have a great roster. And if they hit 203 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 3: on this quarterback and they. 204 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 4: Kevin O'Connell, depending on how you you listen to him saying, 205 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 4: oh I love the quarterback. 206 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 3: You look at the all Steason moves. 207 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 4: He was on the phone with every other quarterback and 208 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,959 Speaker 4: seemed so see how it actually plays out. And then 209 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 4: you have the Packers like and then you have the 210 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 4: Bears rather who just hired Ben Johnson and they expect 211 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 4: to have a lot of success. This might be a 212 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 4: team that gets beat up in the division regards us 213 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 4: of what they did. 214 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: Well, they're gonna get beat up regardless to me. I've 215 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 1: already told Rob g that I think the Commanders are 216 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: going to be right about the same back and so. 217 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 3: Know what I'm saying. The Packers might be a team 218 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 3: that get beat up in their division. 219 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 4: If everything the way the NFC North plays out, you 220 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 4: might have got some pretty high first round picks. 221 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 3: Here just in general. 222 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 4: And you know, and I'm not saying I don't think 223 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 4: they're gonna have a terrible year, but no, I picked 224 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 4: the Packers to be third in the in the North. 225 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 3: Probably still third in the North. 226 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: They're nine and eleven games to me, somewhere around there 227 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: between nine and eleven. The thing that I think also 228 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: helped Jerry sleep at night tonight is that he can say, well, 229 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: look at the other guys who've gotten paid in that same, 230 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: you know, type of position, TJ Watt, Well, TJ, what 231 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: have you done for me lately? 232 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 3: Oh? That's I know that's coming today. 233 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: They haven't done anything in the postseason with TJ Watt. 234 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: They haven't won a game eight nine years. Miles Garrett 235 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: got all the money, hasn't really done anything. I know 236 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: they got one with Joe Flacco. But point is it's not. 237 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: Their perennial defense isn't great. They're always in the postseason. 238 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: So I think that's one thing that Jerry Jones when 239 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: he hits that in the night and he sleeps good. 240 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: He's gonna be able to say, man, I know he's good, 241 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: I know he's great, but one defensive end, you know, 242 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 1: outside linebacker, doesn't change the game like this. He ain't 243 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: Lawrence Taylor, back Crosby, Max Crosby spectacular. Everybody wanted him 244 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: to get traded last season. Go to it the Lions, 245 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: you know, because they were hurt with a Hutchinson. So 246 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: I think that is something he can sell himself and say, 247 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: great as these guys are, they're not making that much 248 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: of a difference. And those types of guys really only 249 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: make a difference when they become kind of the hitman 250 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: for hire. And we'll talk about that a little bit 251 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: later on. Just some teams that maybe could have jumped 252 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: in there as well. 253 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 254 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 255 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 2: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 256 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:49,839 Speaker 2: listen live. 257 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: We're joined Nybou Matt Mosley from the Doomsday Podcast in 258 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: Foxsports dot Com and he's gonna help us break this 259 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 1: down a little bit more. 260 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 3: Matt. 261 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 5: How you doing, man, I'm doing okay. I mean it 262 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:04,959 Speaker 5: was going to be a leisurely Thursday before some huge 263 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 5: college football coverage, and then my day changed in a 264 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 5: big way at about four o'clock Central Local time today. 265 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 5: So Jerry, it always keeps it interesting. So I guess 266 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 5: an eight part Netflix series wasn't enough for him. He 267 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 5: had to add to it with this. 268 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: So yeah, he's going to add a ninth He's going 269 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: to add a ninth episode real quick. You're just is 270 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: this on a scale to one to ten, ten being 271 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: absolutely shocked, one being not shocked at all? 272 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 3: Where are you with this actual trade happening. 273 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 5: Pally like an eight? I just think it was starting 274 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 5: to get kind of ugly, and I was having a 275 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 5: hard time imagining, you know, the next couple of years 276 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 5: if they tried to let him play on his current 277 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 5: deal and then do a franchise tag. I mean, this 278 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 5: thing was gonna get ugly. He was already seeking second 279 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 5: opinion on his back, where it almost kind of looked 280 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 5: like he might try to sit out a little bit 281 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 5: longer and perhaps blame an injury. I can't wait to 282 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 5: see Micah in Green Bay. Something tells me that back's 283 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 5: gonna look a lot better. He's gonna the back's gonna 284 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 5: start feeling better. He's gonna come racing out of there. 285 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 5: It is amazing what forty seven million, forty seven million 286 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 5: dollars a year can do. So uh yeah, I so 287 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 5: eight or nine. But it's still I just think you 288 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 5: cannot even believe, like just the shell shock of the fans, Like, 289 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 5: so this doesn't approach that night that the Luca trade 290 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 5: went down, like it's like the biggest gut punch like 291 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 5: in the history of Dallas foot or sports like that 292 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 5: was other than just like the two thousand and six 293 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 5: finals loss, which felt like that was rob from the Mavericks, 294 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 5: but that that was a huge gut punch. This at 295 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 5: least like he's been upset. There's been anger both ways, 296 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 5: and the player wasn't shot because basically the player came 297 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 5: out and asked for a trade. So it can't be 298 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 5: as shocking as the Luca deal. But you can understand 299 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 5: the metroplex. The fan base around here has had enough 300 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 5: of this, and for a team that honestly probably didn't 301 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 5: have that much of a shot against the Eagles of 302 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 5: the Commanders in a tough division this year, now really 303 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 5: has no shot and so it comes across as a 304 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 5: complete you know, like it's over and maybe maybe the 305 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 5: trade will hit and these these all these draft pixel hit. 306 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 5: But right now I think a lot of people are 307 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 5: pretty upset. 308 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 4: Matt Mosley here on the acle, I know Jerry's about 309 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 4: to start talking in a couple of seconds here, so 310 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 4: I know you got to get to that, But I 311 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 4: do want to ask you where did the generous do? 312 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 4: What are the genesis of this anger scene to come from? 313 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 4: The surprise here is we've seen Jerry signed Dak last minute, 314 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 4: signed CD last minute, and this would have been the 315 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 4: like again that would have been part for the course, Micah, 316 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 4: to me, how much of this was the fact that 317 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 4: it seemed like Jerry wanted to pay him didn't Michael 318 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 4: wanted to be a cowboy, but Jerry didn't want to 319 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 4: call David Middlegetta like that felt like a major thing 320 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 4: in this whole story to me, I am I offer 321 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 4: on on that it was. 322 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 5: I mean, Jerry likes to go straight to players, He's 323 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 5: done it in the past. I just think in this case, 324 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 5: you know, most players will say, hey, man, bug off, 325 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 5: go talk to my agent, and I mean they're respectful 326 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 5: about it. But in this case, Jerry legitimately thought he 327 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 5: had a deal done and that they were on a number. 328 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 5: And then wait, I think and Jerry's been doing all 329 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 5: this media here recently to try to like win this 330 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 5: thing somehow publicly, and there was no way in the 331 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 5: world he was going to do that. And now the message, 332 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 5: by the way, brand new coach the locker room, you've 333 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 5: already seen some of the reactions from his teammates, whether 334 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 5: it's Diggs or CD or whoever. The locker room is 335 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 5: in shock and is saddened. And yeah, it was completely 336 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 5: There were a couple of different things that happened. I 337 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 5: think there was disrespect toward the player in the sense 338 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 5: that he kind of I think I think Michael was embarrassed. 339 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 5: It was kind of like Jerry was trying to say, dude, 340 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 5: you agree to a deal. And then the agent Jerry 341 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 5: tried to clown on him and act like he didn't 342 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 5: know his name and he doesn't talk to agents. He 343 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 5: didn't call him up. And they've been working with agents forever. 344 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 5: I mean, you think Eugene Parker wasn't in Jerry's office 345 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 5: working on a deal for Dion all those years ago. 346 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 5: I mean, like these agents have been talking to Jerry 347 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 5: and Steven forever and to act like it otherwise was crazy. 348 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 5: So this was some weird sort of end around. And 349 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 5: at the bottom line is I think Jerry just got 350 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 5: sick of getting beaten up on these deals. I mean, 351 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 5: that gets sixty million a yeards probably the second highest 352 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:04,360 Speaker 5: paid wide receiver in the game, and I just think 353 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,959 Speaker 5: Jerry was done with it and just thought, you know, 354 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 5: I'm going to try to avoid letting this, letting this player. 355 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 5: And then and then they just got to an impass 356 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 5: and and you know, the rest is history. He's moved on, 357 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 5: and now the Packers are doing with Micah kind of 358 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 5: what the Cowboys did all those years ago with with 359 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 5: Charles Haley. I mean, they didn't start winning Super Bowls. 360 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 5: I mean that was what put him over the top, 361 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 5: was getting Charles Haley. And they're not the same person. 362 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 5: They're not the same kind of they're not the exact 363 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 5: same player, except they are both holy terrors when it 364 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 5: comes to a pass rush. I would say Charles was 365 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 5: a holy terror in other areas too. 366 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're not gonna get onto that. You know, we 367 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: want to keep our jobs. Some of the stuff that 368 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: he was doing real quick, run out of time, and 369 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: I know you want to go watch and see what 370 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: Jerry Jones has to say say as well, Matt real quick. 371 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 3: For me, I feel they punted on the season like it's. 372 00:17:57,800 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 1: A rat if they ever thought they had a chance 373 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: to compete for the Vision, get a wildcard, spy whatever, 374 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: they've punned on that's my opinion. 375 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 5: You yeah, they're done. I mean all you got to 376 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 5: do is look at last year Michael missed four games 377 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 5: and like they didn't even have a chance. I mean, 378 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 5: and he came back and the numbers completely changed. The 379 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 5: defensive numbers. I mean they had they I mean, they 380 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 5: obviously had right there in front of them. They had 381 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 5: all the numbers they needed to show with it. When 382 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 5: this guy plays, they're a completely different team now. Or 383 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 5: they a team that was out there knocking on the 384 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 5: door to go to the Super Bowl. No, no, So 385 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 5: I think that's probably And again somebody made a good 386 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 5: point on Twitter. They're basically like this, this GM can 387 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 5: do things like this because he knows he's never going 388 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 5: to get fired. There's no way he's ever going to 389 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 5: lose his job. So if he needs to make a decision, 390 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 5: that's for the betterment or you know, for it helps 391 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 5: the team. Three or four years down the road. He 392 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 5: can do it. And most gms, I mean, you know, 393 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 5: if they do something like this, they don't have the 394 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 5: security to think, well, this thing may not pan out 395 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 5: for two or three years. 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Listen to over Promised 425 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 7: with Cadino and Rich on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 426 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 7: or wherever you get your podcasts. 427 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 428 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 429 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 2: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 430 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 2: listen live. 431 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: I will start with this shout out to Rob because 432 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: me and Rob had many conversations obviously about this Mica, 433 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,439 Speaker 1: about this Jerry Jones, and my whole thought process was, 434 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 1: you know, hopefully, if you're Jerry Jones, this is what 435 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: you do is part for the chorus blah blah blah. 436 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: They're gonna find a way and I'm not in the 437 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: business of wanting to trade my best player. Rob was saying, hey, 438 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: if you can get a haul for him, you know 439 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: you trade them. I think they ended up being split 440 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: somewhere down the middle because I don't think they got 441 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,919 Speaker 1: a haul for one of the top maybe you know, 442 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: ten twelve players in the league. Sure, I don't think 443 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 1: you got a haul for that. I don't think you 444 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 1: got enough. And I still stand that, and I think 445 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: you would agree. We talked about it. That fine, if 446 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: you're gonna trade him, why trade him now when you 447 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: could have traded him earlier, right around the draft and 448 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 1: actual and actualized those two first round picks, right you 449 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: could have hate we got these things, we could turn 450 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: right around and use them. And so you could have 451 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: done it earlier. You could have done it last year. 452 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: Maybe even got more as far as actual players and picks. 453 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: So to me, it split down the middle. He could 454 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 1: have got much more if he were going to trade them, 455 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 1: based on when he could have traded him. So, now, Martin, 456 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:36,959 Speaker 1: we hear this coming out, that this was a unanimous 457 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 1: decision to trade him, and so according to Nick Nick Harris, 458 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: a Fort Worth Star Telegram sources, behind the scenes, they 459 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 1: basically said the relationship between the Cowboys and Micah had 460 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: gotten so bad obviously over the last few weeks with 461 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: all the stuff going on, it was irreparable. 462 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 3: And that Jerry Jones. 463 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,400 Speaker 1: And he confirmed it with other people that listen, we're 464 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: gonna have to make this trade. And that you had 465 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 1: the front office in, you had some of the front 466 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: facing players, some of the leaders on the team that 467 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: were consulted in this. They were in and there was 468 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: a unanimous decision once it got to this point that 469 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: it has the last couple of weeks, including coach Brian 470 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: Schottenheimer being involved in this as well. 471 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 3: So to me, I look at this a couple of ways, Martin. 472 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: One, this is where we got to I still stand 473 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 1: a lot of the portion is on Jerry Jones and 474 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: the business and the way he handled his business and 475 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 1: the reasons why. 476 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 3: He does what he does. 477 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: That's how we got to this place where it became 478 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 1: a unanimous decision. So when you get when you don't 479 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: trade him, when you had the opportunity, as we mentioned it, 480 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 1: well now you're kind of forced to get what you 481 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,120 Speaker 1: can get, right, I will just take what we can get. 482 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: When you could have had more people who were throwing 483 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: out offers, had you talked about this a few months ago, 484 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: or even before the draft. 485 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 3: More teams jump in right, Hey, well shoot. 486 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: It, mic is up. I'll give you this could have 487 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 1: had much more, a bigger feel to choose from. So 488 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 1: number one, I blame that on Jerry the way handle it. 489 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,239 Speaker 1: You could traded him a couple of years ago when 490 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: your front office and your team came to you. Hey, man, 491 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: if we're gonna trade Micael right now. We know we 492 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 1: gotta pay him at some point, we don't want to, 493 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: it's'ld be a great time to do it. He's youngest, 494 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: twenty four, he's in all pro. We can get a 495 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 1: lot for him. Nah, we're gonna keep him couple of years. 496 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: I'mna sign him. That doesn't happen. You don't sign them, 497 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: you trade, you don't get that much. So of course 498 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: you forced your hand to where now you can't go back. 499 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: Micah's upset. Micah's causing a fuss. He's laying on the 500 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: training table, he's eating popcorn. He's telling Atlanta Falcons fans 501 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 1: to call him. You're over here yelling it. You're going 502 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 1: at it with the agent. You've got to the place, 503 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: so there's no return. Now, since we're here, let me 504 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 1: offer you this Martin. When a relationship ends, you've been 505 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 1: in a relationship. Hopefully the one you're in never gonna 506 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 1: end because you just got married. Congrats again, thank you. 507 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: But you've been in ones that have we all have. 508 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: And and by the way, relationship don't have to be romantic. 509 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: You can be business and partners. It could be homeboys 510 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 1: your friend. And that is a two sided coin. I 511 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: say that to say, all, right, here we are. Now 512 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: this relationship ended. Well, Michael, let me offer you this. 513 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: This is a chance for you to hit reset. This 514 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: is a chance for you to say, well, dang, if 515 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: everybody's saying I'm crazy, maybe I am. And what I 516 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: mean by that, Michael Martin, is that if everybody on 517 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: Jerry get it right, michaeh, yeah, you're not crazy. Yeah, 518 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: let me get back to this where you are a 519 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: little crazy on you know, part time on Tuesdays and Thursdays. 520 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 1: But look, if we get reports that they're questioning his 521 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: leadership right his own team, if we get reports that 522 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: you had many many come to the coaches and say, hey, man, 523 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: I don't know what to do with this guy. 524 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 3: Hey, this guy's getting a little beside himself. 525 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: We have his own players coming out on podcasts saying 526 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: they don't like what he says. It's on podcasts and 527 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 1: we know what he's done. He's jumped in other people's money. 528 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 1: That's one of the things all athletes tell you, and man, 529 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: don't talk about my money. That's between me and ownership. 530 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 1: You don't jump in another bad's money and putting opinions 531 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 1: out there on that. He's done that. He's talked about 532 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: his own coaching staff. He's questioning them when they lost 533 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 1: in the playoffs of Green Bay, calling them out. I'm 534 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 1: not the one putting me out there, y'all. Man, I'm 535 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: a linebacker. 536 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 3: They too it. I don't call the players up. 537 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: When you have all of these things starting to happen, 538 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: you have you're supposed to be the best player in 539 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 1: the leader. Now it's time to self reflect, right, Okay, 540 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: So wipe your hands clean. 541 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 3: I'm going to Green Bay. What do I need to do? 542 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: Because there's two parts, two reasons why a relationship ends. 543 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 3: It ain't just them. How do you improve? 544 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: So to me, this reset Micah is a great time 545 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:31,679 Speaker 1: for Micah to look in the mirror and. 546 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 3: Say, I got to become a better leader. 547 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 1: There's ways I can get better defensively, and just because 548 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: I can doesn't mean I should have a podcast because 549 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:45,360 Speaker 1: I'm hurting my teammates feelings and putting things out there 550 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: for fodder that comes back at them. I'm Dak is 551 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 1: all of a sudden getting shots thinking I'm taking shot 552 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: to him because I don't mention him in the top 553 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: ten quarterbacks. And now Dak is sitting there coming out 554 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 1: of practice. We should be talking about what happened on 555 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: the practice field. I got to answer questions of these. 556 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 1: So you had your fun a few years of the podcast. 557 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 3: You did some good things with it. Great. 558 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: Now it's trying to buckle down, bunker down, And to me, 559 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: it's okay for you to reset, It's okay for you 560 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: to reassess, it's okay for you to switch up how 561 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,439 Speaker 1: you've been doing things. And to me, I look at 562 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: this opportunity for Micah as well, because you don't come 563 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,679 Speaker 1: off this thing scathe or you know, free and spotless 564 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: and flawless. 565 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 3: You've got some things you need to change. 566 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 4: So I think what's fascinating is because we all were 567 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 4: looking at this again, this trade. Shout out to Ricky 568 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 4: Schmokes or Scoops or whatever his name was on Twitter 569 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 4: a few days ago, but before that, it was before that, 570 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,360 Speaker 4: and then Brian Cooton goes kind of not just out 571 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 4: really laughing and said, you guys are listening to Twitter trolls, 572 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 4: don't you know, let's eat Line's app and kind of 573 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 4: giving it like not not a non. 574 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 3: Answer, it's like, wait a minute, is this real? 575 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 4: So we all kind of thought that the deal was 576 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 4: gonna get done this entire time. And one of the 577 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 4: things that made me feel different about this the whole 578 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 4: time I've been I've been working for people who have 579 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,199 Speaker 4: been locked in to every move of Jerry Jones for 580 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 4: almost the last ten years. 581 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 3: I've seen. 582 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,679 Speaker 4: I saw that I've covered the Zeke negotiations from a 583 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,120 Speaker 4: far international scale. I'm not saying I'm in the Star 584 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 4: are there every day? But I covered two DAC everyday 585 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 4: news cycle. How are we getting this done? Covered the 586 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 4: Zeke one. The one that made this different is when 587 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 4: you looked at just the last four to three years 588 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 4: of the Cowboys, especially the last two years of the Cowboys, 589 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 4: as Michael Parson's star began to grow bigger than the 590 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 4: one that was just on his helmet. Right when Michael 591 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 4: Parsons was drafted. You remember he had sat out his 592 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 4: COVID year, so he was kind of and it was 593 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 4: like the eleventh picking the draft of twelfth picking the draft. 594 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 4: So people were high on him as a prospect, but 595 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 4: it was kind of like, oh, does he love football? 596 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 4: All the things that people will say about any draft picked. 597 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 4: Then he comes in and I remember Tej Housman's who's 598 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,479 Speaker 4: on this network, told me after two games Michael Parsons 599 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 4: should never drop back in the coverage again. 600 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 3: That boy is a Hall of fame At Rusher, I 601 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 3: was like, oh, TJ, you've been a little. 602 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:14,679 Speaker 4: No, no, no, he's he's like that, right, he's like that, 603 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 4: and to that point, Michael Parson since that point has 604 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 4: been like that. But the Cowboys, Jerry is the one 605 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 4: whose name's on front of the check, right, Jerry's signing 606 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 4: in front of that thing, not the back. He's not 607 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 4: in doors. He's the check to cash and Jerry's the 608 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,360 Speaker 4: one who's signing the front of it. And you can 609 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,239 Speaker 4: deal with a little bit of noise from the man 610 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 4: in charge, right, because demand in charge is demand in charge. 611 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 4: But by Wednesday of the Cowboys week, it's about what 612 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 4: Michael Parson's had to say, and a lot of times 613 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,959 Speaker 4: Michael Parsons will say, well, Jerry said, we're all in, 614 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 4: where's the all in? 615 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 3: Do you know? 616 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 4: Like this type of situation, there is no Tuesday Owner 617 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 4: conversation in Green Bay. Michael Parsons will be the story 618 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 4: if he continues this podcast along the way. I don't 619 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 4: see it stopping for the record. But I also don't 620 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 4: see like Michael Parson's obstensibly, in my opinion, has gotten 621 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 4: a bit of a pass for the things he has 622 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 4: said along the way because Jerry is the foil on 623 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 4: the other side of this thing. It's like if a first, 624 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 4: it's like if jj Reddick had went on and won 625 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 4: a championship in year one, nobody would have gave him 626 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 4: the credit for it because everybody said, well, he's the 627 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 4: Brons guy, even if JJ Reddick was instrumental in developing 628 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 4: the talent and drawing everything up. And it's like, you 629 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 4: can directly point to why JJ Reddick did all these 630 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,239 Speaker 4: things that Darvingham couldn't, so on and so forth. Everybody, Look, 631 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 4: that's Lebrons guy. You know he's gonna win it anyway. 632 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 4: That's kind of how it probably would sound that's just 633 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 4: not that foil. That other big personality doesn't exist in 634 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 4: Green Bay. Michael Parsons is the big personality. He is 635 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 4: going to be. He's taking his star to Green Bay, 636 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 4: and there's nobody who even comes close to rivaling when 637 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 4: Michael Parson says something, He's gonna be the biggest voice 638 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 4: in your organization. 639 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 3: See absolutely. 640 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 1: And that's why to me, Mark, if he were to 641 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: go there doing all that, it could backfire in the 642 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 1: sense of if you're if I also, I. 643 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 4: Don't want to cut you off, but let's just say 644 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 4: you say if I don't think anything about Michael Parsons 645 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 4: says he's going to stop, do you no? 646 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 3: But there's a massive butt though. 647 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: There's a point in everybody's life where you're offering an 648 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: opportunity to say, maybe I can mix it up a 649 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: little bit, maybe I do the podcast in a different form. 650 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: Nobody's saying don't ever speak about things. But the idea 651 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: that you're speaking about your teammates behind their back is 652 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: kind of crazy. And what I mean is we just 653 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: lose a game. You go on your podcast. We shouldn't 654 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 1: have did that. 655 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 3: I don't like I ain't the one. 656 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: That's different than if he goes to the podcast, say 657 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: with me and you and him, and we're talking about 658 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: Marvel movies. So nobody's saying you can't do a podcast. 659 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: It's in the sense of the way in what you're 660 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 1: doing and can conduct a business. You're throwing coaches under 661 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 1: the bus. Nobody like, dude, we're supposed to be all 662 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: in the bunker hole together, right, me and you, Me 663 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: and you were doing the show. 664 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 3: Obviously, me and Rob Parker do the show. 665 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 1: We all we gotta be in this bunker together, and 666 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: we gotta have some stuff out. 667 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 3: All right, Yo, let's go do lunch, me you Rober, 668 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 3: what's up? What's go? But the idea to go on air? 669 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: He ain't here bashed and I don't like he know that, Like, dude, 670 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 1: come on, we're in this thing. 671 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 3: Talk to me. 672 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 1: Let's figure it out, let's grow, let's build report, let's chemistry. 673 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: And I'm saying that type of thing, especially in a 674 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: town that is close knit, in a town that doesn't 675 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 1: have ownership, in a town that's kind of done it 676 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: their own way. We're not a big city. We kind 677 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: of have our own quirky ways. I think that could 678 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: grow very tiresome. At least in Dallas. It's the big Deed. 679 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: It's got the other it's got the Mavericks, it's got 680 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 1: other things in the city. It's a lot going on. Dude, 681 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: you come here with all that loudness. When we're chill, 682 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: you don't hear nothing. 683 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:51,479 Speaker 3: You know. 684 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: Jordan Love he speaks, but he's never really saying anything crazy, 685 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: And up until the last little bit, Aaron Rodgers wasn't 686 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: say much. I'm just saying that could be too much, 687 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: especially for a guy who's new and doesn't have equity. 688 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: You're not that draft pick. We haven't grown with you 689 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,479 Speaker 1: for seven years. So that's what I'm saying. It's not 690 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: that you can't ever talk about things, but dude, question 691 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: the teammates and this and why we did that on 692 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: its usually taboo. 693 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 3: Kelvin, you sure you didn't get equity in that deal? 694 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 3: I don't know. 695 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 4: He might have got some equity out of that deal. 696 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 4: The ownership group is fluid in Green Bay. He might 697 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 4: have gotten a little equity as much money as they 698 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 4: offered him and he and he signed for. 699 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 3: I gotta check the CBA. 700 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: I gotta check the CBA to see if he can 701 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: if he can get some ownerships by some other way, 702 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: so maybe put in his mama name or something. 703 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 4: My last point on this one, though, with the with 704 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 4: the Micah thing and the Jerry and unanimous, there are 705 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 4: not many of these stories. However, in the time that 706 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 4: Jerry's been there, there have been times, quite famously. The 707 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 4: one that comes to mind first where Johnny Manziel he said, 708 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 4: I want Johnny Manziel and Stephen Jones and ask anybody 709 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 4: to tell the story, Jay, you tell you himself. Stephen 710 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 4: Jones said, no draft Zach Martin. I don't draft Johnny 711 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 4: Manziel and the rest is history. Is Jack Martin allpro 712 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 4: ring of honor guy, Hall of Fame caliber guy for 713 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 4: the Cowboys. I think that Jerry when he says this 714 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 4: was unanimous decision, I believe them. 715 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 1: I believe Well, what I just heard you say was 716 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 1: maybe I should listen to Stephen more. That's just what 717 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 1: I heard. I just heard you say. Maybe I should 718 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 1: continue to be the owner, the marketer, the the you know, 719 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: the guy who helps prop up the Cowboys. But maybe 720 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: I should let Steven just gm. Wouldn't that be a 721 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: novel idea? 722 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 4: According to what we heard yesterday, Stephen was unanimously in 723 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 4: on this, so he did