1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: In the academic world, you're identified of the class you 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: graduate with. Not in the National Football League, you are 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 1: labeled and identified as you begin with the class that 4 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: you begin with. And so today, on this addition of 5 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: defending the Kingdom, we introduce you to the Kansas City 6 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 1: Chiefs class of twenty twenty five. And yes, we're excited 7 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: about them. It's all brought to you by Ticketmaster, your 8 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: friend all year long, whether it's during the season or 9 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: during the non playing season. Let's keep it on an 10 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: RPO at the five. 11 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 2: It's a lead plot. 12 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: Take us into the hands on this side, tux down 13 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 1: Chanzas City. Hi everyone, I'm Mitchelda's voice of the Kansas 14 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 1: City Chiefs along with senior team reporter Matt McMullen. If 15 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: you're not fired up at the beginning of this episode, 16 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: we will get you that way by the time we 17 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: are done, as we are going to talk about the 18 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: class of twenty twenty five. And by the way, the 19 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: Irish Brigade, the co commanders of the Irish Brigade are 20 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: both West Point graduates. Their son who was in the 21 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: class of twenty six. Next year he'll be a first day, 22 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 1: they call him, so he'll be in his senior year. 23 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: But West Point Annapolis Air Force Academy, they'll identify you 24 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: by your class class of. You know, George Pickett was 25 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: the class of blah blah blah blah blah blah, MacArthur 26 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: Eisenhower class of nineteen twelve. I think, well, in the NFL, 27 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 1: you're the class of when you begin. So we know 28 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: about the class of twenty twenty two and how great 29 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 1: they are, but the class of twenty twenty five. You 30 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: and I are fired up about this group. Once the 31 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 1: Draft was over and I just kind of looked back 32 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: at it going back to front, I got real excited 33 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: and I saw some parallels to the class of twenty two. 34 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 2: It's funny because like on Draft night on Thursday, we're 35 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 2: in this conference room Mitche and a few others, and 36 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 2: we're so ready to go, so fired up, just like 37 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 2: everyone else is. And then you get to Saturday, like 38 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 2: middle of Saturday, and we're so tired, Like you and 39 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 2: I were both here so late every single day, but 40 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 2: we're still one hundred miles an hour. But there's no 41 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 2: one here on Saturday except for the draft people. Like 42 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 2: on Thursday and Friday, it's still a normal work day 43 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 2: for accounting and finance and sponsorship and all the people 44 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 2: that don't have a lot to do with the draft, 45 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 2: and then we're there as well. But on Saturday, it's 46 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 2: like a ghost town except for at least in the 47 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 2: business level, except for like us and the production people 48 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 2: and social media and graphics and all that. Not a 49 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 2: lot of people. So anyway, you can kind of do 50 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 2: whatever you want and be a little bit weirder than 51 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 2: maybe you normally are in the office. And after we 52 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 2: got I think it was Jalen Royals, I was in 53 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 2: my office at that point working on something and I 54 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 2: hear you down the hallway just going yeah, so yeah, 55 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 2: we're fired up for this one. We'll talk about it. 56 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: I ran up and down the hallway on the Jalen 57 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: Royals pick like it was Yeah, I goes ten years 58 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: old and it was awesome. Before we jump into the class, 59 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: and we'll start with the first round pick, josh Simmons. 60 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 1: Let's go around the world. 61 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 2: What do you got so just two today because we 62 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 2: have a lot to get to. 63 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: For Joshua Williams, Dustin Colquitt. Let's see all the number 64 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: twos in chiefs history. 65 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 2: Well, Dustin had it for a long time, didn't. 66 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: They wit a hogg it for fifteen years. 67 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 2: He deserves it though. Shout out to Keith and Junction City, Oregon. 68 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 2: You ever been to Junkson City, Oregon? 69 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: Not? Have you? When you did the Kaiser Volcanos. 70 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 2: No, I'm not really familiar with Junction City. 71 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: Junction City, Kansas now or PJ Gidden soon Now I 72 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 1: was on an Indianapolis colt. 73 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 2: Yep, not him, No, not him, Junction City, Oregon. Never 74 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 2: been there before, but wall have to check it out. 75 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 2: Shout out to you, Keith. And then you know how 76 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 2: people have. 77 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: Like sea hockey that's like real sea hockey country, Oh 78 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: for sure? 79 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for sure. You know how people have like 80 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 2: Instagram accounts for their pets? 81 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: Now? 82 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, So I heard from Jenny the Cat. 83 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 2: So I got a message on Instagram and I thought 84 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 2: it was from someone just named Jenny, But then I 85 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 2: read the message and realized that this was a pet 86 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 2: Instagram account. So I went into it, and Jenny the 87 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 2: Cat said they were a street cat from Denver, but 88 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 2: they were adopted by a chief fan and rescued from 89 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 2: the dark side and they've seen the light. So shout 90 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 2: out to you, Jenny, and of course you're your owner 91 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 2: as well. And thank goodness, Jenny, the cat was safe 92 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 2: from being a Broncos fan. You know, I've done the 93 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 2: same for my wife. I know what this is like. 94 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 2: Haven't fully converted her dad yet. I converted her mom. 95 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 2: But I understand the struggle of converting a Broncos fan, 96 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 2: even if it's a cat, and it can be done. 97 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: There's only three animals I would follow on Instagram, okay. 98 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 1: One my daughter's cat from Botswana. 99 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 2: That's pretty impressive, bubs. 100 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it goes nuts on tuna. They don't even have 101 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: to open the tuna. You just like bring it into 102 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: the room and the cat just freaks out, all right. 103 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 1: Two my son and my granddaughters. And my son's wife's 104 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 1: dog Lola. And of course I would follow her twenty 105 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: four hours with a camera. And that is Pip. That's it, 106 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: your dog, Pip. 107 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 2: And I appreciate that Ellie created an Instagram account for Pip. 108 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 2: My first got her but kind of fell off the wagon. 109 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 2: And Pip's been able to do a lot of cool 110 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 2: things and interact with people and do cool stuff. I 111 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 2: wish we kept big going, but she stopped. I don't 112 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 2: know why. 113 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: I do a lot of public speaking across the country, 114 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: mostly in the Midwest. I'll take credit. It made Pip 115 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: a little bit famous. People are like, people know who 116 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: Pip is. We talk about the spirit of Pip. 117 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 2: We did that PSA for for Iiowa. Yeah, and she 118 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 2: was like featured. I brought my dog into the studio 119 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 2: and this is a couple of years ago. She had 120 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 2: a little bit more energy then. I really didn't know 121 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 2: how this was gonna go. This took my dog to 122 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 2: work and took her into the studio. But you know, 123 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 2: she didn't like poop in the middle of the studio. 124 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 2: There was no like total disaster, and it was a win. 125 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 2: We have a great photo it's on my office of you, 126 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 2: me and Pip. It's awesome. She had no idea all 127 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 2: the great success she would help us achieve in the 128 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 2: years that followed that. 129 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: It is in my corner of the closet too that 130 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: I have here in the practice facility. You know it's 131 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: up there, prom and you, me and Pip. Yeah, Well, 132 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: my daughter and her husband's cat goes nuts on catnip 133 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 1: and tuna. We're gonna go nuts on The twenty twenty 134 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: five class of Kansas City Chiefs, and it'll start with 135 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: the Chiefs number one draft, Josh Simmons out of Ohio State, 136 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: and it's we talked about him before a little bit. 137 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: We're going to hear from Josh in just a bit. 138 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: He joined us in studio. But if he wasn't injured, 139 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 1: this guy would have been probably the first left tackle 140 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: taken off the board. He started out the twenty twenty 141 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 1: four season like a ball of fire, had a good 142 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: twenty three season with Ohio State, and before that a 143 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 1: right tackle at San Diego State. Went to Madison High 144 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: School in San Diego's where he played. Transferred later to Helix, 145 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: but COVID knocked him out of playing for the Helix Highlanders, 146 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: Alex Smith's alma mater. But this is a very skilled, 147 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 1: large human being. You're going to hear from him in 148 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: a second. But excitement to get Josh Simmons based on 149 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: what it could be. We don't know exactly what we 150 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: have right now because of the injury, the Teller Tenont injury, 151 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 1: but there is excitement in thinking that this guy could 152 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: be a long time Pro Bowl caliber left tackle. 153 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 2: So the draft of my it's about three things. It's 154 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 2: about adding really talented players to your team. Obviously, it's 155 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 2: about making your team better in terms of position groups 156 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 2: that you might need some more depth at or maybe 157 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 2: a future starter at. And maybe first and foremost, it's 158 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 2: about value. You can't just take players at certain spots 159 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 2: because you love them. You have to also work the board. 160 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 2: When will these players be available and all of that. 161 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 2: This is incredible value getting Josh Simmons at thirty two. Overall, 162 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 2: you look just about anywhere you look at Dame Brugler's 163 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 2: Draft Guide, Matt Miller's Draft Guide, Pro Football Focuses Draft Guide, 164 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 2: Daniel Jeremiah for NFL dot Com. Everyone agrees that this 165 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 2: guy would have been a top fifteen pick, maybe the 166 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 2: top tackle off the board. And the only reason he 167 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 2: fell to the Chiefs at the bottom of the first 168 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 2: round is that knee injury. And I understand, like there's 169 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 2: no guarantees of stuff like that, but you trust your doctors, 170 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 2: you trust your athletic training staff, and the Chiefs have 171 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 2: the best in the business here in Kansas City, led 172 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 2: by Rick Burkholder. And if they say we believe it 173 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 2: this guy, we think he'll be good to go, you 174 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 2: trust it, You go with it and you get incredible 175 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 2: value at that spot. You get a player that allowed 176 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 2: one sack on his last six hundred pass blocking snaps 177 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 2: at Ohio State playing in the Big Ten. This isn't 178 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 2: like a projection where he was at a small school 179 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 2: facing you know, maybe smaller competition. He was facing the 180 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 2: best of the best every single week and he was 181 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 2: the best out there, best player at his position before 182 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 2: getting hurt. Last season, he allowed one quarterback hurry, no hits, 183 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 2: no sacks. Quarterback was not touched when he was out 184 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 2: there on one hundred and fifty eight pass blocking snaps. Again, 185 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 2: you get a player like this at thirty two overall, 186 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 2: it doesn't happen. I mean, we talked before the draft 187 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 2: saying how it's very difficult to find like your blue 188 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 2: chip left tackle prospect because those guys go in the 189 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 2: top ten and the Chiefs are not picking in the 190 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 2: top ten. The Chiefs have had no down years under 191 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 2: coach Reid. This is an incredible situation where this guy 192 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 2: would have gone a lot higher. He fell to you 193 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 2: because of a certain situation that was out of his control. 194 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 2: He's attacked his rehab in the time since he apparently 195 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 2: nailed the whole interview process, all that stuff, and you 196 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 2: get this guy at thirty two. I mean hopefully, and 197 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:08,959 Speaker 2: I have a great feeling that we're going to look 198 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 2: back on this like five years from now and say, 199 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 2: how did the Chiefs get Josh Simmons at thirty two? 200 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: Overall incredibly athletic, terrific feat in the Chiefs offense. They 201 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: asked their linemen to move a lot their tackles, think 202 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: of screens, and Simmons is excellent at it. Either zone blocking, 203 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: now maybe not the man blocking in the run. There's 204 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,319 Speaker 1: what the knaka is on him, is the so called anchor. 205 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: But he's also comes from a very athletic family. His 206 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: dad played for the Baltimore Orioles and the Detroit Tigers. 207 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: You look further, his uncle was Chris Muafala. Sorry I 208 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: used to do this Fuamala Maafalu, who was a longtime 209 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: fullback for the Pittsburgh Steelers played against us, right, And 210 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: so the fact that he comes from bloodlines, he's been 211 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: around it a little bit like Pat, so this is 212 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: not new to him to be at this level. Matt 213 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,959 Speaker 1: and I had a chance to have Josh Simmons setting 214 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: right here the Chiefs number one draft pick of the 215 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five class, A big defending the Kingdom. Welcome 216 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 1: to Josh Simmons, our number one first round draft pick 217 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: of this twenty twenty five class, and first of all, 218 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: welcome to the Chiefs Kingdom. 219 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 3: Thank you so glad to be here. 220 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: When you got chosen, when you got the call, what 221 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: was going through your month? 222 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 4: Like a little bit of everything more surreal, Like I 223 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:30,439 Speaker 4: was telling people that like chicken and pickles, like you're 224 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 4: waiting for your mom to kind of wake you up 225 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 4: for school. Like it was one of those surreal moments. 226 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 4: So I was just trying to take it all in 227 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 4: and kind of still in the process of it. 228 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 2: This is funny for us because we've been doing podcasts 229 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 2: talking about potential draft picks for like weeks and months now, 230 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 2: and we've talked about you so many times and now 231 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 2: you're just sitting here with us and you're a Chief. 232 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 2: What were the emotions like when you realize, like I'm 233 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 2: going to be blocking for Patrick Mahomes of all people 234 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 2: to start your NFL career. 235 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, so a lot of high expectations, so you 236 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 3: got to like hit it really hard. 237 00:10:58,200 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: You know. 238 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 4: Pat Mahomes is like the pinnacle of you know, throwing 239 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 4: footballs right now and probably going to be like the 240 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 4: future of it. So definitely iveing to like understand like 241 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 4: you have a big task and a big assignment, and 242 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 4: obviously there's a lot of vets in the room, so 243 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 4: you just got to really just put your head down 244 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 4: to work and you know, don't get anybody's way. 245 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: And that being said, Josh, how much did the Ohio 246 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: State experience and the SDS you experience. But at Ohio 247 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: State you're going into a program that had the expectation 248 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: to win a national championship, So dealing with that every day, 249 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: how much did that help you mentally and emotionally get 250 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: you ready to try to be with a team that's 251 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: won three Super Bowls and want to get another one. 252 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I guess you're familiar. 253 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 4: So college the NFL is like, I can't compare that, 254 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 4: but I get the feeling of always having pressure and 255 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 4: always having to chase, always getting better, and just always improving. 256 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 3: So I know that's this is a team that's always improving. 257 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 4: Pat's always improving, Traps Trace Smith's always improving, greed Hump 258 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:54,199 Speaker 4: is always improving. 259 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 3: So just got to look up to those dudes and 260 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 3: do it how they do it. 261 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 2: So you had an incredible first year at Ohio State. 262 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 2: Scribbled this down. You allowed one sack on almost five 263 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 2: hundred pass blocking snaps in twenty twenty three, and you 264 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 2: were off to an even better start last year like 265 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 2: one quarterback hurry like no hits, no sacks until you 266 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 2: got hurt. How do you think you improved as a 267 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 2: player between twenty twenty three and twenty twenty four. Why 268 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:15,959 Speaker 2: were you off such a great start? 269 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 4: I think it was just kind of some of the 270 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 4: habits that I built. I'm not gonna be honest, I 271 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 4: wasn't the best practice of them, but that offseason I 272 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 4: definitely had like a you definitely like realize, like, okay, 273 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 4: let's uh every walk through rep, let's kind of go 274 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 4: a little harder or maybe put yourself in a game 275 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,319 Speaker 4: situation that way, when you do go to practice, you're 276 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 4: playing a lot harder, a lot better. You're kind of 277 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 4: able to see things that you saw on the walkthrough, 278 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 4: and then you just kind of take training that much 279 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 4: more serious, like a weight room I think should be 280 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 4: anybody playing on the line scrimmage like second home, so 281 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 4: you get stronger in that aspect, and I mean only 282 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 4: good things happened from there. 283 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 1: Obviously, one of your strengths is your ability to move, 284 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: and this offense is one that loves screens and have 285 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: an all five lineman move. How much did your expriantoid 286 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: stsu playing right tackle help you get ready for this 287 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: because you played right tackle for the Aztecs and left 288 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: tackle for ohiose Tock. 289 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 4: Uh, so you kind of get I guess you learn 290 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 4: how to play everywhere. Like I'm not really I can 291 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 4: play left tackle, but I'm an offensive lineman. So if 292 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 4: I even need to play left guard, right guard, whatever, 293 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 4: I'll definitely do that because I know how to do that. 294 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 4: But it definitely kind of you kind of learn and 295 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 4: have to adjust on the fly because playing right tackle 296 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 4: to left tackle it was a big adjustment. It's not 297 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 4: as easy I feel like people think. So you definitely 298 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 4: have to kind of kind of like drop it and 299 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 4: like get to it. Definitely hone it on your craft. 300 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 2: So Brett Beach was explaining a little bit about all 301 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 2: the work they did on you and a lot of 302 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 2: Zoom calls, I understand it, a lot of interviews and 303 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 2: they interviewed you, I think on zoom a few days 304 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 2: ago before the draft and to see like how much 305 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 2: you retained from some of the install they did like 306 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 2: a month earlier. What do you remember about that call, 307 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 2: because clearly it went pretty well. 308 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:54,959 Speaker 4: Yeah they Yeah, Like like you said, it was a 309 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,199 Speaker 4: lot of recall and kind of like what they were 310 00:13:57,840 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 4: kind of like they'd kind of walked through like some 311 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 4: of the base pro stuff, and so there's just kind 312 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 4: of like, how remember what I told you here? 313 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 3: What do you do here? 314 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 4: And stuff like that, and then you know, asking like 315 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 4: where I'm at in my angreen bay. 316 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 3: I'm at home. It's a little stuff. It wasn't that long. 317 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 1: Culture is a big deal. It's been a huge deal 318 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: with us to win twelve straight winning seasons. But there's 319 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: a subculture that exists with the offensive linemen and you're 320 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: going to be surrounded. You already mentioned Tray and Creed, 321 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: but the fact that in that room, in that culture, 322 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: how do you enhance that culture? How do you absorb 323 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: that subculture of the old line. 324 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 4: So for me, I just learn I'm definitely picking brains. 325 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 4: I have the first time being in the NFL, So 326 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 4: I don't know exactly what takes back. 327 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 3: All I can do is soaking information and soaking. 328 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 4: Kind of kind of turn into like a little ten 329 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 4: year old and kind of see what you know the 330 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 4: grown ups are doing and kind of follow their footsteps. 331 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 4: Obviously don't want to get anybody's way, but definitely working 332 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 4: hard in that aspect. 333 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 2: See, you've only been here for like forty eight hours. 334 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 2: But what are you excited to do in Kansas City? 335 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 2: What are you excited to learn about the City's a. 336 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 3: Lot of barbecue. I think it was Q thirty nine, 337 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 3: was it those? 338 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 2: It's one of them, Yeah, because a bunch of them. 339 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 3: Is probably the best things I've ever had in my life. 340 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 2: So you've already had some barbecue. Oh yeah, Okay, off 341 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 2: to a good start for sure. 342 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: Well, it's awesome to have you here. You seem to 343 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: go to red places, like you know, you just keep 344 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: staying red, right, So you're a wardrobe. But what do 345 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: you look forward to the most? As you get started 346 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: and we get started right away with Rookie Minicant. 347 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 4: Just yeah, like like you said, that tradition in that 348 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 4: culture this is second or none in the NFL. I think, 349 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 4: you know, playing in February and January is a testament 350 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 4: to that. So just getting accustomed to it, Like just 351 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 4: kind of reaching out to new players. You know, they've 352 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 4: been here obviously, Like I said, Trey Creed, those are 353 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 4: like real dudes who probably the. 354 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 3: Culture is oozing out of them. 355 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 4: So just kind of asking again, like asking them, don't 356 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 4: getting their way, but definitely like kind of learn, come 357 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 4: to learn. 358 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: Now Chiefs Kingdom get excited because Josh Simmons is adding 359 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: to that offensive line room, so a lots to be excited. 360 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: He's an engaging human. Did you notice that? 361 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, for sure, And he's excited to be here, 362 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 2: which I'm fired up about. It would be very easy 363 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 2: for a player in his situation to kind of be 364 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 2: moping about the fact that you felt at thirty two. Overall, 365 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 2: it's funny because we keep talking about this like a positive. 366 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 2: But for him, I mean, he going into the season 367 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 2: thought he was going to be the top tackle off 368 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 2: the board, probably taken in the top ten, top fifteen, 369 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 2: all that, and there's money lost there. But for him, 370 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 2: he seems fired up and he knows that this is 371 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 2: the best situation for him. That it's not just one 372 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 2: sided where we're lucky that we got value with this guy. 373 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 2: For him, he sees value in it as well. I 374 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 2: think that he's going to a Super Bowl contender that 375 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 2: has an opportunity at left tackle for him to come 376 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 2: in and compete and to maybe win that job. And 377 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 2: it really in so many ways as a match made 378 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 2: in Heaven. If I told you this in February, that 379 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 2: we're going to get this guy and he's going to 380 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 2: be fired up to be here, and we can talk 381 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 2: about OTAs in camp and going into the season saying 382 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 2: that we've got this great problem here where we have 383 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 2: a first round draft pick in Josh Simmons and a 384 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 2: player that we believe as well, and Jalen Moore coming 385 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 2: over from the forty nine ers. They're going to compete 386 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 2: for that spot here over the next couple of years. 387 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 2: Just a big kind of change, I think from even 388 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 2: a few months ago. 389 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: The medicals the big issue that's not a secret, but 390 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 1: your point is a good one. The cooperation from Rick 391 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: Broke Colt and his athletic training staff. We talk about 392 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: it at nauseum with the team doctors, and that's Paul 393 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: Schreppel and his crew. I'm a big fan of those 394 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 1: guys and the scouts and the coaches. There has to 395 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: be collaboration. Your dad is a prominent attorney in prograduate 396 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 1: of the University of Missouri School of Law. I got 397 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: accepted to three life law schools, decided not to go. 398 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: But if you and I were arguing the case for 399 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: the chiefs collaboration and cooperation, it would be people's opinion 400 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 1: versus Tray Smith, and we would go to that where 401 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 1: a sixth round pick, now redrafted, would be a first 402 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 1: round pick. Nuff said. We move on because we feel 403 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: like Josh Simmons, and there's a lot of opinion that 404 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: he's going to be up and running a little quicker 405 00:17:58,240 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: than we thought. 406 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:01,919 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think there was a lot of think I'll. 407 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 1: Said, I thought it was going to be October of 408 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 1: twenties five. Yeah, before we even saw this. 409 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 2: Guy, I think a lot of us assumed it might 410 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 2: be like a red shirt ear situation. I am not 411 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 2: getting that impression. I'm getting the impression that he is 412 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 2: going to have a chance to be ready by training camp. 413 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 2: I don't know what that means necessarily. I don't know 414 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 2: if that means he's in pads on day one in 415 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 2: training camp, but I think he's going to be doing 416 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 2: things at training camp, and likely I think he'll have 417 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 2: an opportunity to compete for that spot. I don't think 418 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 2: this is a red shirt year by any means. I 419 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 2: think he's going to have a chance to play. So 420 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 2: I'm fired up to get to camp and to see 421 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 2: what he can do. You kind of glazed over something 422 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 2: just now though you got into law school. 423 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: Yeah you didn't know that. 424 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 2: I didn't know that. 425 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, three different law schools, So why didn't you do it? 426 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 1: Because I want to be sitting here with you? 427 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was in law school. 428 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be to be with your dad on uh 429 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: huh South American case. 430 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 2: I'm glad that it didn't work out. 431 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I lock Clark for two years too interesting. 432 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 2: New one DTKY every week. 433 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 1: Yeah that's cool, so decided not to go. Don't look 434 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 1: at my lsat score. It's okay to get in. But yeah, 435 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: wasn't going to be in a lat review. I don't 436 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 1: think anyway. 437 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 2: You would have been amazing at that, like closing statements 438 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 2: and stuff. You would have been incredible. I'm glad you 439 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 2: picked this line of work, but you would have been 440 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 2: really good at that. 441 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, you never get that far anymore though, you always settle. 442 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: So anyway, we move on to our second case, which 443 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 1: is the people of public opinion versus Omar Norman Lot, 444 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:22,880 Speaker 1: the defensive lineman inside lineman from the University of Tennessee. 445 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: Started actually at Arizona State University, played for HERM. Edwards, 446 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 1: the former chiefs head coach at ASU for the Sun Devils, 447 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: and played a lot actually at ASU, and then when 448 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:39,360 Speaker 1: ASU went through their issues, he transferred onto Tennessee. Interesting 449 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: here because people, and I'll just be right there too, 450 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 1: looking for where this pick was of looking for a 451 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 1: day one starter on the interior defensive line. Now you 452 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 1: hope that maybe Jerry Tillery becomes that guy. Or the 453 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: rotation big here rotation because Norman Lot becomes a replacement 454 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,439 Speaker 1: for Turk Wharton. And if you watch us, they talk 455 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: about his hands and his hands being so good, and 456 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: his one gap penetration is snap quickness. He was a boxer. 457 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: Omar Norman Lot was a boxer, and you can see 458 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,360 Speaker 1: it in the way he uses his hands and how 459 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 1: quick he is. Sometimes you get a little too quick 460 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 1: because he'll get some penalties maybe, but jumping, the jumping 461 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: the snap count. But this is a one gap penetrator 462 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: and a pass rusher is an interior defensive line. 463 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 2: And you mentioned his hands. I think he had the 464 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 2: largest hands of any defensive tackle at the combine, which 465 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 2: those things matter in the end. You know, I don't 466 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 2: love saying rookies are replacements for players that get twenty 467 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 2: million dollars a year from another team, but that's kind 468 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 2: of what we're saying here with Turk Wharton. What I'd 469 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 2: amended to a little bit is that I think Norman 470 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 2: Lot is further along as a player than Turk was 471 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 2: when he came in here as a rookie. And we 472 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 2: were really impressed with Turk when he first came in. 473 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 2: But Norman Lot did some really great things at Tennessee 474 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 2: last year and throughout his career. Last year he led 475 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 2: all interior defenders in pass rush win rate and win percentage. 476 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 2: He trailed only James Pierce, who got drafted in the 477 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 2: first round, by the way, in terms of pressures on Tennessee, 478 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 2: despite ranking twentieth on the team in defensive snaps. So 479 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,479 Speaker 2: you might wonder, well, why wasn't he playing more? They 480 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 2: had a heavy rotation at Tennessee with their defensive tackles, 481 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 2: and if you think about like Nil, now you get 482 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 2: all these prospects that come in. You have to let 483 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 2: all your players play, So it makes sense that he 484 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 2: wasn't playing a ton. What matters is that when he 485 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 2: was on the field, he was incredibly productive, like more 486 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 2: productive than any defensive tackle in the nation. So you 487 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 2: just look at the tape, you evaluate what you see 488 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 2: when the player is on the field, and he's going 489 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 2: to have a chance to come in here and kind 490 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 2: of fill that void left by Turk where you're that 491 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 2: three tech pass rushing defensive tackle on passing downs. And 492 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 2: he is shown during his college career and especially last 493 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 2: season he can do that really really well. And he's 494 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 2: bigger than Turk. So Turk Wharton was a really good 495 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 2: player for this team. I think kind of underappreciated throughout 496 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 2: his career. But to go out and get a player 497 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 2: like this when I think this might have been like 498 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 2: our biggest need. Honestly, if you're going through the list 499 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 2: of needs for the Chiefs, that defensive tackle you could 500 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,199 Speaker 2: put next to Chris Jones on passing downs just to 501 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 2: have some depth there and a guy that has some 502 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 2: juice and some twitch. We got that player and Omar 503 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 2: Norman Lott and I look at a lot of different 504 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,439 Speaker 2: big boards because everyone kind of has different opinions and 505 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 2: I try not to get too much into the group think, 506 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 2: which happens sometimes with these players. But Pro Football Focus 507 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 2: had him as the number four defensive tackle on their board, 508 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 2: behind only Mason Graham, Walter Nolan, and Kenneth Grant, and 509 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 2: we got that guy. So I love this pick and 510 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 2: I'm excited to see what he can do. 511 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: Negative would say, did that many snaps? You look at 512 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: his win past percentage win rate of his snaps, but 513 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 1: they're saying, well, that's not a lot of snaps. Well, again, 514 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: it goes back to your rotation. One of the reasons 515 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: the Chiefs have been elite on defense really since twenty two. 516 00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 1: You look at twenty two, twenty three, and twenty four. 517 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,360 Speaker 1: We talk about the scoring defense, let the rushing defense. 518 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 1: A big reason is this rotation that the Chiefs have 519 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: in the NFL. And it's nearly impossible to have Mike Danna, 520 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: George Carloftis Felix and yudikiu Is. I'm gonna go right 521 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: down the line. Now you get inside, you get Jerry Tillery, 522 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: Chris Jones leads the way, Mike Panell. You look at 523 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: a seven or eight man rotation. This is where Norman 524 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: Lott fits in, and it segues right into our next 525 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: guy because Jelotti is right there with the rest of them. 526 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: So to get asked in Jelotti another guy that has 527 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: been an outstanding pass rusher. His twenty twenty three was 528 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 1: crazy with eleven sacks, and the sacks fell off in 529 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: twenty four, but it wasn't a effort. I think you 530 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: got more attention. His brother's an MMA fighter and it 531 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: shows because this guy plays football like he's doing mixed 532 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:56,400 Speaker 1: martial arts and if you look at him, you're going 533 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: kind of reminds me of George Carloftis. He works out 534 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: with George Carloftis. Yeah, these two guys know each other. 535 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: And so this defensive line rotation of all the dudes 536 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: that I mentioned didn't throwing Norman lot You got another 537 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 1: one right after that with Gelatti. 538 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 2: So Gelatti and George share a common college coach. A 539 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 2: coach that was at Purdue with George then was at 540 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 2: Louisville last year with Gelatti, and he linked them up 541 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 2: so well. Before any of this happened, George was reviewing 542 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 2: Gelatti's film and telling them, Hey, this is how you 543 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,199 Speaker 2: need to get better. This is what you got to do, 544 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 2: and being kind of like critical because that's what everyone needs, 545 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,360 Speaker 2: right and saying, hey, this wasn't very good. You could 546 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 2: do that better, And Gelotti would would text George ask 547 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 2: him thoughts on things, Hey can you break this down? 548 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 2: What do you know? They're now teammates. Everything I've gathered 549 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 2: about Gelotti is he is like a super super high 550 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,199 Speaker 2: character guy and he's a high motor like he's going 551 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 2: to give it everything he has. And that sounds a 552 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 2: lot like someone else we know, George Carloftis, So it's 553 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 2: kind of like like George is established. I don't want 554 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 2: to say that, you know, Gelati is going to be George. 555 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 2: He has to go out there and earn it. But 556 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 2: we might have drafted another George Carloftis, and I think 557 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 2: we'd certainly take that. I love his size. He's sixty 558 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 2: three two hundred and sixty four pounds, so he's a 559 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 2: total Steve Spagnolo edge rusher kind of prospect where he 560 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 2: can play inside and outside just like George does from 561 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 2: time to time. He's a Bruce Feldman freaks list guy, 562 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 2: like athletic freak. If you look back at his Feldman's article. 563 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 2: I think it was twenty twenty two. We talked about 564 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 2: some of the crazy things that Gelotti did to get 565 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 2: on that list, and also you mentioned the great production 566 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 2: two years ago he did. He had fourteen and a 567 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 2: half tackles for loss eleven sacks in twenty twenty three. 568 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 2: Traditional numbers down a little bit last year, but the 569 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 2: pressures created were actually higher last year than the year prior. 570 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 2: He had sixty pressures created last year, fifty eight in 571 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, so everything was there, just didn't necessarily 572 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 2: have like the sacks, but the pressures were still happening well. 573 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: And again people the criticism here his looks like a 574 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: sub guy. You did not get a starter with the 575 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: Chiefs since Spagnola. Here's what we're going to try to 576 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: tell you here, the fact that you have eight starters, 577 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: and that's what's crazy. I mean, you got Chris who 578 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 1: stands out right, he's the elite inside defender now in 579 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 1: the National Football League. But the other guys around him 580 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: can play inside and outside and they do a lot 581 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: of different things. The other thing, but Jelatti would be 582 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 1: developing more moves and counter moves. He'll have to do that. 583 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 1: The negative the red flag on him was, well, wait 584 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 1: until he faces the lead offensive tackles in the league. 585 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 1: That's not gonna work. He's gonna have to have some 586 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: other stuff. You can say that about every past rusher 587 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 1: in the college football. Sure, that's what Felix is learning. 588 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: Felix has got some stuff, but now he's learning move 589 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 1: four and move five. And that's where George being big 590 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 1: brother for Gelatti helps. 591 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 2: I remember when George first came out and the whole 592 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 2: rap on him was he was just a power rushers, 593 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 2: the bull rusher, he couldn't get around the edge. I 594 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 2: think George proved those doubts wrong. I mean, George is 595 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 2: one of the best young pass rushers in the NFL, 596 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 2: consistent eight to ten sack guy every single year. And 597 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 2: that's what Gelatti could turn into. And he'll have opportunities here. 598 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 2: And I'm with you looking at just the edge rushers. 599 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 2: So now you have Charles men who, you have Mike Dana, 600 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,360 Speaker 2: you have George Carloftis, you have Felix and new Dicky Uzama, 601 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,640 Speaker 2: who even though the volume stuff hasn't been there for Felix, 602 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 2: like when he's been on the field, Felix has made 603 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 2: some plays, and then you add Gelatti in the mix 604 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 2: now as well. You still have Malik Herring here, and 605 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 2: you have those interior rushers. It's just really exciting. And 606 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 2: this has been kind of the impetus I think of 607 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 2: the offseason is just getting better in the trenches on 608 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 2: both sides. And with both Jelatti and Norman Lott, we did. 609 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 1: That long season. You don't want to grind guys into 610 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 1: the ground. I know you're trying to win fantasy football 611 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: with a guy you know on sacks. But for the 612 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs to run that long race with a 613 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 1: bunch of different guys who all can play up front 614 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 1: is one of the biggest assets the Kansas City Chiefs 615 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: have have had and will have going into twenty twenty five. 616 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,199 Speaker 1: Another asset that they will have, well, let's put it 617 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,919 Speaker 1: this way. Cam Ward was the one to one pick 618 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 1: of the twenty twenty five draft for the Tennessee Titans. 619 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: There was a pick against him when they played cal 620 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: Buy the Chiefs pick in Noah Williams and Noel You 621 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: talk about ball skills, guy, just listen to this. First 622 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:12,919 Speaker 1: of all, he loves to tackle, So see if this 623 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: sounds like a corner that Spags would like. Two hundred 624 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 1: and three total tackles, one hundred and thirty four of 625 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: those are solos, fourteen career interceptions, seven last year, four 626 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: scoop and scores, and the pick six. Oh throw in 627 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: an eighty yard kickoff return for a touchdown. Now he's 628 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: a bigger thicker. I don't think it's too far to 629 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: give the comp here to a potential replacement over time 630 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: to Austin Reed. Yeah, he looks safety ish with corner skills. 631 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: He could look he plays in the box. He obviously 632 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: wants to tackle, which is a rerequisite for playing for 633 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: Steve Spagnolo and this defensive secondary group, but also has 634 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 1: the ball skills. So here again is a guy you 635 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: talk about valuing the draft, What double value it appears 636 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: to get. 637 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 2: Noel Williams, You know what's funny is I love late 638 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 2: night sporting events, like when Ellie is asleep and it's 639 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 2: like eleven forty five and I can't sleep and I 640 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 2: can win. 641 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: The Cornhall Championships. 642 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 2: So not so much like random stuff. 643 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: It's like that they have the NASCAR suits on right 644 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: with all the sponsors. 645 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 2: I can't quite get into that it's more like the 646 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 2: sports that I love. But I'll parachute in as like 647 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 2: a fan of a random team. Like last night, I 648 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 2: stayed up until like twelve forty five watching the Oilers 649 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 2: and King's playoff game because it went to overtime. I 650 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 2: just decided I was going to root for the Oilers, 651 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 2: and I watched it and then went to bed afterward. 652 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 2: And who knows if I'll ever watch the Oilers again, 653 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 2: but I'll do that sometimes. And I remember watching that, uh, that. 654 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: Miami cal playoff overtime hockey. 655 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 2: It's the best, it is the best, but any. 656 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,959 Speaker 1: Second, any fraction of a second, decides it. 657 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 2: I stayed up till like two am watching that cow 658 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 2: Miami game where Noel Williams picked off cam Ward. I 659 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 2: remember that. It's the only time I watched Miami or 660 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 2: col all your I watched that game, and it's just 661 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 2: funny that now Noel Williams is a chief. 662 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:06,719 Speaker 1: A long time ACC rivals. 663 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 2: By the way, how crazy is it that's an ACC 664 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 2: Conference game. It's like a six hour flight. The game 665 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 2: ended at like I mean, it was like twelve forty 666 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 2: five Central time. It was super late and they had 667 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 2: to fly all the way back to Miami, just saying 668 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 2: but anyway, I mean, I'm super excited about Noel Williams 669 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 2: for a bunch of reasons. You laid them all out. 670 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 2: It's the length. If you look at this corner class, 671 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 2: particularly kind of where they got Noel Williams, a lot 672 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 2: of good corners, but it's a lot of nickels. It's 673 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 2: and that's important, but it's players that are not going 674 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 2: to play on the outside very much or have that 675 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 2: safety versatility. It's guys that are going to play in 676 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:45,719 Speaker 2: the slot. Well, Noel Williams is what was numbers here. 677 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 2: He's six foot tall, I think two hundred pounds with 678 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 2: ball skills, so seven interceptions led the FBS last year. 679 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 2: His fourteen career picks were the second most of any 680 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,479 Speaker 2: player in this draft class. He mentioned the scoop and scores. 681 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 2: He's durable, fifty career starts, all right, so he's not 682 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 2: getting hurt very often. And the run defense really stands 683 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 2: out to me that you talked about, because so many 684 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 2: times corners, especially corners like with ball skills, that have 685 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 2: a lot of interceptions, that's maybe all they care about. 686 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,959 Speaker 2: They're not super interested in defending the run. But wherever 687 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 2: you look, whether it be Matt Miller, PFF, Dane Bugler. 688 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 2: Everyone talked about how he might have been the best 689 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 2: run defending corner in this class, Like he's an outstanding 690 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 2: run defender. We asked him about that. On his post 691 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 2: draft press or, he talked about how much he enjoys 692 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 2: being a run defender, Like every single play, it's not 693 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 2: about can I just get an interception here, or is 694 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 2: the ball coming my way? Can I set the edge here? 695 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 2: Or as a running back coming my way? Can I 696 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 2: help my team in any way I can. That's a 697 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 2: mindset thing that just a lot of corners don't have 698 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 2: because they're playing that outside, premium skill position, and that's 699 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 2: a big deal. So Spags is going to love him. 700 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 2: We know that he also has a ton of special 701 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 2: teams experience as well, so I think he'll fit in 702 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 2: right away on special teams. And he gives you flexibility 703 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 2: on the outside where if Trent McDuffie's playing inside more. 704 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 2: Now that Christian Fulton's here in town, you Jillen Watson 705 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 2: as well, you can mix him in the rotation too. 706 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 2: That's just a really good group of long corners who 707 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 2: make your defense better Overall. 708 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: The secondary for the Chiefs in twenty twenty five could 709 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: be measurably better. And Noel Williams is part of that. 710 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: The knock on him not great straight ahead speed four 711 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: or five, but setting the edge. We think about that 712 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 1: in the run game. Which great that you brought that up, 713 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 1: but the edge is also said in this era of football, 714 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: on bubble screens, tunnel screens, it cannot get outside. And 715 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 1: the chief corners have done. You go look at Jalen Watson, 716 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 1: you go down to obviously Trent McDuffie, but Joshua Williams, 717 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: even Chuarius Ward back in the day where you lock in, 718 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 1: you cannot let that play get outside. The Chiefs are 719 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: the best team in this league in defending those kind 720 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 1: of plays because their corners are physical, They're willing to 721 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,959 Speaker 1: make plays like that and they get to the outside. 722 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: It's even the strip play in Germany of Tyreek Hill. 723 00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: It's a play, it's a perimeter play, a quick, okay, 724 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,719 Speaker 1: quick route, but you cannot let that plaguet outside. If 725 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 1: your corner is physical enough to hold the edge that 726 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: somebody can come in and rip the ball out and 727 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 1: then your safeties and backers come to fill that's what 728 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: this kid can do, and he does it in his sleep. 729 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 1: Now we go to Saturday. Now we go where everybody's 730 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: gone right, accept the Scouts and bird and there and 731 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: social and the sixty five TPT Crew and Jalen Royal's 732 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 1: of Utah State, the fighting Aggies from Logan, Utah becomes 733 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: a Kansas City chief. I whooped and ran down and started. 734 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: I came in and saw you guys so fired up. 735 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: And this guy, to me is a Juju Smith Schuster lookalike. 736 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: Now let's jump into what's not so obvious about him. 737 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: Why did he get to Utah State? He was a 738 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 1: zero star recruit. 739 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 2: You love this, I love this. 740 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 1: He goes to Georgia Military. He was a point guard. 741 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: So in the summer, guys that want to get to 742 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: the NFL go to all these camps. Right, colleges have 743 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 1: their own combines. So issue company might be a regional, 744 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: but whatever, And these they go to camps to get 745 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 1: on the circle start to be looked at. He didn't 746 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 1: do any of that. He's playing AEU basketball as a 747 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: point guard. This guy could have been a Division one 748 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 1: or high Division two basketball player. Think about Pat Mahomes. 749 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 1: The reason he wasn't was highly recruited. Was the fact 750 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 1: that not only was a baseball prospect, he could have 751 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: been a Division one basketball point guard. Okay, this kid 752 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 1: goes under the radar, goes to Georgia Military Institute Junior college. Right, 753 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 1: I said he was in formation, not single back formation, 754 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,479 Speaker 1: literal formation with somebody yelling at him. All right, shows 755 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: up at Utah State and blows up so here. The 756 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 1: year he had in twenty three was crazy. The only 757 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 1: FBS wide receiver with seventy plus catches, fifteen touchdowns, seventy 758 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 1: five first downs. This dude picked up man and he 759 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 1: stayed loyal to Utah State. He stayed there two years, 760 00:34:58,120 --> 00:34:59,879 Speaker 1: and he was going to have another. He gets hurt 761 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 1: seven games into this last year at Utah State. I 762 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 1: cannot wait to meet this kid. I cannot wait to 763 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 1: talk to him. He's got IQ, he's got toughness, looks 764 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 1: like Juju Smith Schuster. But I've often said this, and 765 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 1: I'm fired up. You can tell I like my lineman 766 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 1: to be wrestlers. Yeah, create Humphrey. If you got a 767 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 1: stud athlete who was a stud high school wrestler, love it. 768 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:27,360 Speaker 1: Offensive and defensive line footwork, leverage, move, countermove, hand placement. 769 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 1: I love my wide receivers and quarterbacks to be point 770 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 1: guards in basketball, and that's what this kid is. I'm 771 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 1: fired up about it. 772 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,359 Speaker 2: No, I am too. It might be my favorite pick 773 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 2: of the draft. Again, crazy value here. Look at the 774 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 2: big boards, like Pro Football Focus had him as the 775 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 2: sixty overall player, Dan Bugler had him as the sixty 776 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 2: three overall player. We get him at one thirty three. 777 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 2: And he's not just a flash in the pan guy 778 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,760 Speaker 2: like that. Twenty twenty three season gets a lot of attention, 779 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 2: but I think he was off to an even better 780 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 2: start last year. He was fourth in the FBS and 781 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 2: receiving yards per game through seven games when he got injured. 782 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,799 Speaker 2: They missed the final five with the foot injury. Maybe 783 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 2: the foot injury is why he fell. I don't know, 784 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,320 Speaker 2: but his production was crazy when he was on the field, 785 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,839 Speaker 2: and the Juju comp is good because he's kind of 786 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 2: like this like stocky physical receiver. But he's not just 787 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 2: like possession guy that catches the ball and contorts his 788 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,879 Speaker 2: body and that's all you get. He's like a big 789 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 2: play machine. I mean, he had ten catches of fifty 790 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 2: or more yards over the last two years, most of 791 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 2: any player in the FBS, nobody had more than this guy. 792 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,239 Speaker 2: He has good speed. He runs a four to four 793 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,360 Speaker 2: to two like that's a good speed for his size. 794 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 2: But it's his ability to make defenders miss, like in 795 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 2: space that makes him so special. And that's what Juju 796 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 2: was so great at early in his career and it 797 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 2: still is. Seventeen forcemiss tackles last year. That was eighth 798 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 2: among all receivers in the FBS prior to getting injured, 799 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 2: and he averaged eight yards after the catch. Watch this 800 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,840 Speaker 2: guy's highlights, like it's endless of him just making players 801 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 2: miss in the open field. He reminds me a lot 802 00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 2: of Rashi as well, where he kind of turns in 803 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 2: are running back when he has the ball in his hands. 804 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 2: He's stocky and physical but also elusive at the same time. 805 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 2: I just think Coach Reid's gonna love this guy. Like 806 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 2: stuff behind the line of scrimmage for sure, but also 807 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 2: quick slants ten yards down a field. He'll make a 808 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:15,880 Speaker 2: guy miss and break it off for a big play. 809 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 2: So you had a player like this to a group 810 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 2: that already includes Rashie Rice who will be healthy, Xavier' 811 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,320 Speaker 2: worthy obviously had a great season last year, Hollywood Brown 812 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 2: going to be healthy and have a full season now 813 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 2: with the Chiefs and Juju Smith Schuster. I mean, that's 814 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 2: a really, really good group of receivers in compared to 815 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,840 Speaker 2: what we had this time last year going into the draft. 816 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 2: I mean, this has just been a revelation. I think. 817 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 2: So we're hoping to see more firepower and more explosiveness 818 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,839 Speaker 2: from the offense this year. I think we're gonna get 819 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:47,800 Speaker 2: it because of the guys that we're getting back from injury. 820 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 2: And then you throw this guy in the mix. Just 821 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:51,799 Speaker 2: really fired up about it. 822 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 1: I've talked about the door hinge receiver. I learned that 823 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 1: in coach reads first year here and back in twenty thirteen, 824 00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 1: how important they are. We'll save that for a whole 825 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:03,279 Speaker 1: other episode. But this guy could be your door hinge 826 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 1: receiver and become so vital to this football team. All right. 827 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 1: Then it goes Saturday, just there's a spectacular data. You're 828 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 1: talking about value, immediate impact, and then Jeffrey Bass I 829 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 1: think it's Bess or boss Abassa. But this guy, what 830 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 1: he did at Oregon reminds you. And by the way, 831 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,320 Speaker 1: going back to Royals, his high school was Evan Ingram's 832 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 1: High school. It was Bradley Chubbs High School. 833 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:28,240 Speaker 2: Wow. 834 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,879 Speaker 1: So there's dudes that come out of Jalen Royals High 835 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,759 Speaker 1: School and you Royals fans went into were Royals eighty five? 836 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 1: Stay tuned on that. We'll see. 837 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,840 Speaker 2: I can't get him fifteen, but maybe eighty five and. 838 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 1: Sixty nine the first year of Royals existence doesn't work 839 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 1: because that's ineligible, all right, but eighty five would be 840 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 1: kind of fun. 841 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 2: It would be you know. I asked him on his 842 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 2: post draft zoom call. I was like, are you a 843 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,759 Speaker 2: baseball fan at all? And he's like, you know, I'm 844 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 2: trying to get more into baseball. And I'm like, are 845 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,239 Speaker 2: you aware of what the team's name is in Kansas City? 846 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,839 Speaker 2: And he is aware. So there's like a marketing opportunity 847 00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 2: there that I think you should take advantage of. 848 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:01,759 Speaker 1: Quick Before he throws out the first pitch at a 849 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 1: Royal skame. 850 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,319 Speaker 2: The Royals already tweeted about it, like immediately They're like, 851 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 2: that's a great pick. I mean, how funny is it? 852 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 2: I remember like studying all the receivers and seeing him, 853 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 2: and the thought crossed my mind, how funny would that 854 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 2: be if he ended up here, and of course it 855 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:15,959 Speaker 2: just works out that way. 856 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,280 Speaker 1: I'd be like the Royals taking a picture named Ralph Chiefs. 857 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,719 Speaker 1: Yeah right, the chief bender of some of those you know. 858 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 2: So now, yeah, he'll have to go get a Royals jersey, 859 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 2: Royals Royals and then of course his jersey's going to 860 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 2: say Chief's Royals. I just feel like, especially if it 861 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 2: was eighty five, a lot of people are going to 862 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 2: buy this jersey. And if he's as good as that, 863 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,480 Speaker 2: we think he's going to be even more, we'll buy. 864 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 1: It, love it and love the Oregon linebacker and Jeffrey 865 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:43,320 Speaker 1: Bess if you look at him now, a couple of things. 866 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,839 Speaker 1: You have to go be on the obvious with all 867 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,240 Speaker 1: these guys. We got an MMA fighter, we got a boxer, 868 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 1: we've got a point guard. And this one is a 869 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,400 Speaker 1: guy who started as a safety. Fact he came to 870 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,360 Speaker 1: Oregon as a safety. To me, you're looking at it, 871 00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,279 Speaker 1: there's a little bit of Willigay junior in him, because 872 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 1: it looks like the open field kind of linebacker safety combo. 873 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 1: But then you look at what he did four years 874 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,840 Speaker 1: of special teams at Oregon four years. So when he 875 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 1: became like mainline starting dude for the Ducks. He didn't 876 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 1: come off special teams. He was awesome and his play 877 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,960 Speaker 1: speed is off the charts. But what he did was 878 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 1: in the Senior Bowl was ran the huddle for the 879 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 1: national team. So now you start to think green dot guy, 880 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 1: and he was essentially we know about Nick Bolton and 881 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:31,799 Speaker 1: what he does is the green dot for the Kansas 882 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 1: City Chiefs, the traffic cop air traffic controller. That's what 883 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 1: Jeffrey did for the Oregon Ducks. And so you bring 884 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 1: that into play with a guy that looks like he 885 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 1: can play will maybe some mic, special teams, open field, 886 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:49,279 Speaker 1: hybrid safety, total spags guy, but this looks like a 887 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:50,800 Speaker 1: Dave Tobe guy from day one. 888 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,880 Speaker 2: I get like college val victorian vibes from this guy. 889 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 2: He's really really smart and you can tell it's when 890 00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,799 Speaker 2: he talked to him and all of the coaches if 891 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 2: he you look at draft guys, they just rave about him. 892 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,480 Speaker 2: I mean, this guy is super intelligent and is capable 893 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,440 Speaker 2: of handling a lot of information and data coming in 894 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 2: and that's why him being the green dot at Oregon 895 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 2: is so useful because it's really hard to do that, 896 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 2: like the green Dot is the quarterback of the defense. 897 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,600 Speaker 2: Like here in Kansas City, it's Nick Bolton, and he's 898 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 2: the one that's relaying everything to everyone on the field 899 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 2: in like an instant. And that's what Jeffrey Bassa did 900 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,279 Speaker 2: at Oregon, a big time program, playing a lot of 901 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,279 Speaker 2: big time games every single week, and he was the 902 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 2: guy in the middle of the defense calling the whole thing, 903 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 2: and that's really difficult to do. His first game ever 904 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,960 Speaker 2: at linebacker was against C. J. Stroud in Ohio State 905 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,320 Speaker 2: when he was asked, because of injuries at the linebacker position, 906 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 2: can you move from safety to linebacker? And how cool 907 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,640 Speaker 2: is it that he was like, no problem, Sure, I'll 908 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,720 Speaker 2: do it. He played safety his whole life, was recruited 909 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 2: as a safety, going to be a safety at Oregon, 910 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,959 Speaker 2: got asked to move to linebacker, and he said, yeah, 911 00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 2: I'll do it to help the team, and what do 912 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:00,960 Speaker 2: you know, he ended up being really good at it, 913 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,960 Speaker 2: super consistent, had at least forty five tackles in all 914 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 2: four seasons at Oregon. You mentioned the special teams experience, 915 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 2: and how cool is it that your green Dot is 916 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:13,239 Speaker 2: playing on special teams? How many major programs is there 917 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,759 Speaker 2: green Dot playing on special teams and kick coverage and 918 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,320 Speaker 2: stuff like that. Like he just kind of says the 919 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:18,879 Speaker 2: kind of guy that he is, he wants to help 920 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 2: the team any way that he can. And to me, 921 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 2: he reminds me a lot of Drew Tranquil, because Tranquill 922 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,719 Speaker 2: was a safety at Notre Dame moved a linebacker. Kind 923 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:30,719 Speaker 2: of that hybrid coverage kind of guy. That's what Basa is. 924 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,239 Speaker 2: But Drew also can wear the green dot. I mean 925 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 2: when Nick was hurt a couple of years ago, Drew 926 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,880 Speaker 2: was our green dot, and Bassa's the same kind of player. 927 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 2: So if you're looking for kind of a comp to me, 928 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:41,719 Speaker 2: it's Drew Tranquil And yeah, well they Gay is a 929 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,879 Speaker 2: great one as well, where super athletic coverage guy can 930 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,719 Speaker 2: get out there and cover. And I'm excited about this 931 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:49,440 Speaker 2: because you can never have enough of these guys. He's 932 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,480 Speaker 2: going to help us on special teams and also just 933 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 2: makes that linebacker room even deeper with another player who, 934 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,200 Speaker 2: god forbid, if you had a bunch of injuries, is 935 00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,400 Speaker 2: capable of going out there handling all the bullets flying 936 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,920 Speaker 2: and the data and can call a defense. Not an 937 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:04,759 Speaker 2: easy thing to do, and we might have gotten another 938 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:06,040 Speaker 2: one here in Jeffrey Bassett. 939 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,279 Speaker 1: We talk about the defensive line rotation. Think of the 940 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,279 Speaker 1: linebacker room. Now, this guy walks in with Tranquill and 941 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:15,319 Speaker 1: Leo Chanel and Nick Bolton and Jack Cockran go right 942 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 1: down the line. I mean this, it's a really really 943 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,239 Speaker 1: good linebacker room. And I think special teams could be 944 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,759 Speaker 1: appreciably better next year, not only because of him, because 945 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:26,320 Speaker 1: of others. And then the last pick. Going into the draft, 946 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 1: I was hoping to get it started. You know, third 947 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 1: down backs. Man, I've just an I can't believe this 948 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:36,960 Speaker 1: is real, what you're about to say. And so I'm 949 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,560 Speaker 1: thinking we haven't got the third down back. Now we're 950 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,400 Speaker 1: nearing the end of the draft, right, and so but 951 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,719 Speaker 1: we have a guy that works in graphic arts here 952 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:51,680 Speaker 1: named Jordan Geesler. A year ago he came into We're 953 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:53,759 Speaker 1: nerding out and all this stuff. He goes, I'm gonna 954 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,360 Speaker 1: tell you the guy that I like, and it's Carson Steel. 955 00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:58,319 Speaker 1: I go, it looks like the Jungle law guy. Right, 956 00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,680 Speaker 1: he's got the whole hair, he's he's sure he's not 957 00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,640 Speaker 1: on Survivor or something. And we end up taking him. 958 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,239 Speaker 2: He was like three hundred and fiftieth on PFF's big board. 959 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,759 Speaker 2: I'm like Jordan, I just don't know, and this is 960 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:09,160 Speaker 2: my guy. 961 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,239 Speaker 1: This my guy ball I go ball State, Yeah, ball State, Uclabel. 962 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:16,120 Speaker 1: This year it was Brishard Smith and SMU and this 963 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:17,440 Speaker 1: is what about a week and a half before the 964 00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:18,640 Speaker 1: draft goes this is my guy. 965 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:19,520 Speaker 2: This is my guy. 966 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:21,960 Speaker 1: So we've looked at him, but it made me go 967 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,959 Speaker 1: back and look, oh, okay, look more at this guy 968 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:29,480 Speaker 1: who was a wide receiver at Miami and then transferred 969 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 1: to SMU. SMU then said we're going to make you 970 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:34,640 Speaker 1: a running back. In fact, their quote was We're going 971 00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:40,359 Speaker 1: to make you the SMU version of Isaiah Pacheco Burshard Smith. Though, well, 972 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,520 Speaker 1: let's go back to what I said. I was wanting 973 00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,000 Speaker 1: a starting defensive like day one player. Well, okay, think 974 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,080 Speaker 1: of the rotation here. We got that covered third down 975 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:53,480 Speaker 1: back p Rhine leaves us goes to Cincinnati, who's the 976 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:59,400 Speaker 1: younger version of Jeric McKinnon. And I cannot wait to 977 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:04,080 Speaker 1: watch Smith because when I've mentioned that to different people, 978 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,360 Speaker 1: they've all nodded to the affirmative and the fact that 979 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:11,120 Speaker 1: this guy, yes, he his crazy production crazy. In twenty 980 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,040 Speaker 1: twenty five. He ran the ball two hundred and thirty 981 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:17,520 Speaker 1: five times thirteen hundred and thirty two yards six yards 982 00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:21,040 Speaker 1: of carry essentially. Then he threw in fourteen rushing touchdowns. Oh, 983 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:24,080 Speaker 1: let's add thirty nine receptions for three hundred and twenty 984 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:28,480 Speaker 1: seven yards all purpose yards. He was fourth in FBS 985 00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:33,320 Speaker 1: all parpers Oh, let's see Jantes first. Uh huh, Yeah, okay, 986 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,520 Speaker 1: I know he's heard he's going to the Raiders. 987 00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:35,959 Speaker 2: Uh huh. 988 00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:39,920 Speaker 1: Scatoo of Arizona State goes second. Yep. Third was Hampton 989 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:41,720 Speaker 1: who goes to the Charger. He goes to the Chargers 990 00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:46,240 Speaker 1: the Divis Division. This kid was fourth. Yeah, Oh my gosh, 991 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:50,440 Speaker 1: crazy production. And when you watch the video, this could 992 00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,760 Speaker 1: be Jeric McKinnon coming out of SMU. 993 00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,200 Speaker 2: So, I know, the Monday after the draft you look 994 00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,400 Speaker 2: at every single player and you say, this guy is amazing. 995 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,000 Speaker 2: How this guy all of us all that. I can't 996 00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,080 Speaker 2: believe that we got this guy in the seventh round. 997 00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:08,200 Speaker 2: Just flip on his tape. It's super just electric. I 998 00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:09,799 Speaker 2: mean with the ball in his hands when he has 999 00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,640 Speaker 2: an opportunity, he is electric. He is four to three 1000 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,120 Speaker 2: to nine speed. Give the third fastest forty time of 1001 00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,800 Speaker 2: any running back at the combine. You mentioned the ridiculous production. 1002 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:22,239 Speaker 2: I mean nearly two thousand yards between rushing, receiving, and 1003 00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,640 Speaker 2: kick return yards. Nineteen plays of twenty or more yards 1004 00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,319 Speaker 2: last year, I was in the top five among all 1005 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,720 Speaker 2: running backs. And so on one end, he's a former receiver, 1006 00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:33,560 Speaker 2: like you said, and you can tell, like when he 1007 00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,000 Speaker 2: goes up to attack the ball, he attacks it like 1008 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,560 Speaker 2: a receiver. Sometimes with running backs it can be kind 1009 00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,400 Speaker 2: of awkward if they didn't do a lot of that, 1010 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 2: like in high school or college. But with him, he 1011 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,160 Speaker 2: runs routes and attacks the ball in the air like 1012 00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,680 Speaker 2: a receiver. But a lot of times if you have 1013 00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,520 Speaker 2: this conversion where you have a receiver go to running back, 1014 00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:52,640 Speaker 2: they're kind of like a fish out of water. As 1015 00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,600 Speaker 2: a runner, he's not like he has like contact balance. 1016 00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:59,160 Speaker 2: He's bouncing off defenders. I mean he had eighteen total 1017 00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:00,000 Speaker 2: touchdowns last year. 1018 00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,040 Speaker 1: One cut ability. Yes, like he's done it on us. 1019 00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,319 Speaker 2: You'll make a guy miss. It's incredible. But also like 1020 00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,640 Speaker 2: at least in college, between the tackles, he was getting 1021 00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,399 Speaker 2: tough yards, like moving the pile, like getting the ball 1022 00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,360 Speaker 2: on the two yard line and punching it in for 1023 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,359 Speaker 2: a touchdown. There's a lot of potential here with this guy. 1024 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,560 Speaker 2: And that's why he reminds me so much of Jeric, 1025 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,520 Speaker 2: because Jeric was not the biggest player, but he played 1026 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,479 Speaker 2: way bigger than he actually was. Jeric was a great 1027 00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:26,240 Speaker 2: pass blocker, like he would run through defenders twice his size, 1028 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,120 Speaker 2: and I mean, that's a really lofty comp like Bashard 1029 00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,040 Speaker 2: will have to work to be a Jerck McKinnon in 1030 00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,840 Speaker 2: this league. But it's just impossible not to watch his 1031 00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,759 Speaker 2: tape and think that is Jack McKinnon and to add 1032 00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,200 Speaker 2: a player like this to our offense. We know how 1033 00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,400 Speaker 2: valuable and how effective Jeric was like in the screen 1034 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,120 Speaker 2: game in the red zone. This guy's perfect for that 1035 00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:48,440 Speaker 2: kind of thing. So also the new kickoff rule, like 1036 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,359 Speaker 2: how the kickoff is being moved at the thirty five 1037 00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,719 Speaker 2: Now there's gonna be a lot more kickoffs, and he 1038 00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,719 Speaker 2: has a ton of experience handling kickoffs in college. If 1039 00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:58,680 Speaker 2: you put a four to three to nine guy back 1040 00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,919 Speaker 2: there who can make players, he has contact balance, he's 1041 00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,759 Speaker 2: perfect to handle kickoff duties. So he'll have to earn 1042 00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,880 Speaker 2: that role. But just I mean Burshard Smith getting him 1043 00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:09,600 Speaker 2: in the seventh round. I think you let out a 1044 00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:11,879 Speaker 2: yeah in the hallway after this one too. 1045 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:14,120 Speaker 1: Saturday, it was just a hallway. 1046 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,520 Speaker 2: I couldn't believe we went around. I couldn't believe because 1047 00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:18,400 Speaker 2: we had talked about it all week, like like this 1048 00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,439 Speaker 2: guy's available, because everyone was talking about like the top 1049 00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,520 Speaker 2: five or six running backs, like the Caleb Johnson's and 1050 00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,560 Speaker 2: the Scatabooze and all these players, and yeah, those guys 1051 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,080 Speaker 2: would be great. But I kept thinking like that guy. 1052 00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,520 Speaker 2: Jordan showed us Brashard Smith, like he would be a 1053 00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:34,640 Speaker 2: lot of fun and he would fit KOA. Treed's offense. 1054 00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,040 Speaker 2: And we got to the seventh round. I guess I 1055 00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,360 Speaker 2: could kind of forgot, And when we took him, I 1056 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,040 Speaker 2: was like, I cannot believe we got him. He's a chief. 1057 00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:44,400 Speaker 2: Jordan's two for two. 1058 00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:48,320 Speaker 1: And this kickoff return ability. He averaged twenty five yards 1059 00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,680 Speaker 1: on a per attempt and over his college career in 1060 00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:54,440 Speaker 1: kickoff returns, including a ninety eight yard touchdown on a 1061 00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,720 Speaker 1: kickoff return. And you mentioned the four to three nine speed. 1062 00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,080 Speaker 1: So you're getting a lot with this guy. Super excited 1063 00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,640 Speaker 1: about him. It's always key we talk about how versatile 1064 00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,120 Speaker 1: people are within the organization. 1065 00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:05,520 Speaker 2: Right. 1066 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,960 Speaker 1: So when you get a graphic artist and a graphic 1067 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:12,359 Speaker 1: designer who can pick your players that this is my guy. 1068 00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:14,040 Speaker 1: You and I are going to go to him next 1069 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:15,840 Speaker 1: year about two months before the draft and going now 1070 00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:16,359 Speaker 1: who you got? 1071 00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,920 Speaker 2: He has a reputation to uphold, so you have to. 1072 00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,839 Speaker 1: Do it way to go. Jordan, You're a very talented dude, 1073 00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,719 Speaker 1: but man, you've now to pick two running backs in 1074 00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:29,040 Speaker 1: two straight years in this guy. But Brishard Smith completes it. 1075 00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,319 Speaker 1: So overall this class and we're gonna watch him now. 1076 00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,640 Speaker 1: It starts right away this week. As you'll see this 1077 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,600 Speaker 1: posted this week becomes rookie mini caamp, a lot of 1078 00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,239 Speaker 1: try out guys, undrafted free agents. We'll get into all 1079 00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:44,279 Speaker 1: that in episodes coming up ahead. But this class, the 1080 00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,600 Speaker 1: class of twenty five, really anxious to see him. 1081 00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and listen, we're very excited about it, but the 1082 00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,239 Speaker 2: reality is the grade is incomplete. I mean, they have 1083 00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,319 Speaker 2: to go out there and play. We think all these 1084 00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,760 Speaker 2: players are going to help us, and we're very excited 1085 00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:58,959 Speaker 2: about the value and the talent that we brought in here, 1086 00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,200 Speaker 2: but they have to go out there and we won't 1087 00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,400 Speaker 2: know how good this class was for a couple of years. 1088 00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:05,640 Speaker 2: But one thing I do from time to time is 1089 00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,719 Speaker 2: I go back and look at our episode in twenty 1090 00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:12,480 Speaker 2: twenty two called the Base Ten, and it was basically 1091 00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,680 Speaker 2: what we're doing right now, immediately after the twenty twenty 1092 00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:19,040 Speaker 2: two draft class. And we all know how transformative that 1093 00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:22,240 Speaker 2: class was. We don't win back to back super Bowls, 1094 00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,040 Speaker 2: we don't go to three super Bowls in a row 1095 00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,080 Speaker 2: without that draft class. And it's fun to go back 1096 00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,160 Speaker 2: and listen to what we were saying about those players 1097 00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:32,719 Speaker 2: and the potential that they could achieve here in Kansas City, 1098 00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:34,719 Speaker 2: talking about, Hey, I think Trent McDuffie can be one 1099 00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,000 Speaker 2: of the best corners in football. Here's why I think 1100 00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,640 Speaker 2: George Carloftis is going to help our defensive line. Here's 1101 00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,000 Speaker 2: why I think Isaiah Pacheco could help this team. Jill 1102 00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:43,960 Speaker 2: and Watson can help this team. I love his length, 1103 00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,840 Speaker 2: all that stuff, and it turns out that all worked 1104 00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:50,080 Speaker 2: out perfectly for the Chiefs. And I'm as fired up 1105 00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:54,320 Speaker 2: about a draft class about this one. I'm as fired 1106 00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:56,200 Speaker 2: up about this class as I was about that one 1107 00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:58,920 Speaker 2: back in twenty twenty two. And again they have to 1108 00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:00,440 Speaker 2: go out there and earn it and p it. But 1109 00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:02,600 Speaker 2: hopefully in a couple of years we're looking back at 1110 00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,920 Speaker 2: this episode and saying, man, that class really changed everything 1111 00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:06,920 Speaker 2: we know about the. 1112 00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,319 Speaker 1: Base ten system, right, we all use it. The base 1113 00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,960 Speaker 1: ten draft class of twenty twenty two brought us two 1114 00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:17,120 Speaker 1: Super Bowl championships. The biblical number for perfection is seven. 1115 00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:19,839 Speaker 1: There's seven in this group. Maybe a couple of years 1116 00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:21,600 Speaker 1: from now we'll look back and say this was a 1117 00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,120 Speaker 1: perfect pick. But just know this. Do you graduate from 1118 00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:27,000 Speaker 1: high school or college, or graduate from West Point, you're 1119 00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:30,920 Speaker 1: identified as the class in which you ended. In the NFL, 1120 00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:34,560 Speaker 1: you're identified as in the class of where you begin. 1121 00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:38,000 Speaker 1: And we like the beginning of this class of twenty 1122 00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:38,560 Speaker 1: twenty five