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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha. Welcome to stuff I

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Speaker 1: never told you production of My Heart Radio and Hello

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Speaker 1: listeners coming at you from the future, kind of the

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Speaker 1: past or the past, we don't know, And that's kind

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Speaker 1: of what happened immediately in this episode. As you will hear,

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Speaker 1: this was a very special happy hour. We did it

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Speaker 1: in the office with super producer Christina and executive Rusumaya.

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Speaker 1: We hadn't seen each other for a while. Samantha and

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Speaker 1: I were both flustered because we haven't done a studio

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Speaker 1: recording for a while. So this did become a two parter.

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Speaker 2: Yes, of course it was going to be. I feel

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Speaker 2: like it was going to be inevitably, just because there's

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Speaker 1: But as this, if you're listening to it the day

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Speaker 1: it drops, it is Christmas. Yes, so if you celebrate,

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Speaker 1: Merry Christmas, happy, whatever you celebrate or don't celebrate, we

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Speaker 1: hope that you're all doing well. But if you're slightly

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Speaker 1: confused at the intro, it's because we didn't intend to

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Speaker 1: talk about Christmas traditions, but we ended up doing that.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it got fascinating because everybody had such different traditions

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Speaker 2: that I was not prepared. And also, as you will hear,

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Speaker 2: our executive producer just had a baby at the end

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Speaker 2: of last year. So when you're old and when you

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Speaker 2: have a child and Christmas traditions, there's so much added

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Speaker 1: Well, it was a wonderful conversation and so we did

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Speaker 1: split it in two. But that's why you might be

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Speaker 1: intend to do that. But in this one we're focusing

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Speaker 1: on Christmas traditions and then stay tuned. On New Year's

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Speaker 1: Day we'll have one about New Year's traditions. Yes, so

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Speaker 1: please keep an ear out for that. Hope that all

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Speaker 1: of you are well, and let's get into it.

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Speaker 2: And welcome to a very special happy hour. Not only

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Speaker 2: feel like now, but we're also joined by our super

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Speaker 2: executive producer Maya as well as our amazing producer. Over here,

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Speaker 2: I'm pointing like people can see me Christina.

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Speaker 3: Hello, I'm over here.

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Speaker 2: I'm pointing at people or like making this a tradition.

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Speaker 2: I think so it's a tradition today. Yes, we are

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Speaker 2: so excited to have your own for this amazing happy hour.

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Speaker 2: Just as a reminder, if you are doing anything happy

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Speaker 2: hour ish, do so responsibly because we love you and

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Speaker 2: we need you to stick around. Also, if we are

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Speaker 2: talking specifically about any products currently not being sponsored by

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Speaker 2: those products, maybe that will change in the future. Things

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Speaker 2: change a lot. We'd love sponsors to the good ones.

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Speaker 2: That is right, and that's what keeps the show going.

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Speaker 2: But yes, and that's correct. And our amazing executive producer

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Speaker 2: brought in some drinks for us. Can you tell them

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Speaker 2: what you brought in?

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Speaker 4: We have two drinks today. The first one is by

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Speaker 4: Spiritless I think is the name of the brand.

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Speaker 2: Oh, we love Spiritless group. We love them.

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Speaker 4: Dark like woody, you know, Ellie fancy. You know it

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Speaker 4: gives you the real vibes of an alcoholic cocktail. But

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Speaker 4: about the hangover, right, Yeah, so that's an espresso martini.

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Speaker 4: Everybody loves an espresso martini.

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Speaker 2: So good, it's so yummy right now.

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Speaker 4: But we also added a little bit of tonic water

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Speaker 2: Little bright kick. I've been watching a lot of top

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Speaker 4: And then the other one is tiled in cocktails, ready

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Speaker 4: Let's give it a taste. Yeah, yeah, it has even

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Speaker 2: Oh, you've definitely been watching some Top Chef yep, yep.

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Speaker 4: You know here and there.

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Speaker 4: I love Tom. I love a good Tom.

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Speaker 2: Kristin Cash coming on as.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, she's so good, so.

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Speaker 2: Much she's adoptee I love them too.

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, No, I really love her. I feel

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Speaker 4: like she's elevated the show, like taking it into the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, as much as I love Pedma, which I love

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Speaker 2: Paedma love you, please come on the show, please see me.

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Speaker 2: But yes, if they had to change it over, Kristin

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Speaker 2: was a fantastic cantect. Annie, I need you to jump

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Speaker 2: on the top chef board.

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Speaker 2: Make me nervous competition stress.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, I get stressed out.

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Speaker 2: I love that I'm sitting this close to you any

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Speaker 2: But what we want are some of our traditions. At

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Speaker 2: and what your traditions are. So Maya, can you give

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so for the holidays, my husband and I feel

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Speaker 4: like we've tried to create our own traditions since buying

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Speaker 4: fun to like make things that are just you. You know.

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Speaker 4: Of course you probably bring some things in from your upbringing.

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Speaker 4: But some of the traditions that we have established in

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Speaker 2: And I love that you have very specific types of trees.

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Speaker 2: And you know about this because in my head, I'm like, whoa, yeah,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I really I really like to like give back

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Speaker 4: scent that you get in your house. And I really

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Speaker 4: I've talked to the farmers there and it actually, you know,

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Speaker 4: if you're going to get a real tree, you might

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Speaker 4: as well do the labor to cut it down yourself.

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Speaker 2: At the work end, I will say, as the owner

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Speaker 2: a lot of trees like. That's the one thing, especially

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Speaker 2: when it comes like pines, I don't know what kind.

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Speaker 2: and you're tell me what kind of pines got back there.

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Speaker 2: But I'm sure they because it has been a business.

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Speaker 2: I know, growing up in North Georgia, they would have

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Speaker 2: of people coming through. But I need to know. So

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Speaker 2: do you know what is the best type of tree

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Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, so I definitely have found So this year

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Speaker 4: we have a cypress tree, and I've found that between

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Speaker 4: I found that the cypress is better than a cedar

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Speaker 4: and the ornaments, especially in comparison to if you're comparing

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Speaker 4: it to a traditional like Frasier for dug glass fur,

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Speaker 4: I would say that has the closest strength branch strength

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Speaker 4: to what you're used to. They're even like a within

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Speaker 4: the cypress and cedar family, they're like different varieties. So

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Speaker 4: there's like a sapphire blue, there's a they're all of

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, that's like limon smells. You know.

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Speaker 4: my family just loves holidays because my mom used to

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Speaker 4: like throw this big party New York's Day and like

436
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Speaker 4: invite the whole neighborhood over.

437
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Speaker 2: Your family was social social, yeah, okay.

438
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Speaker 4: But only around the holidays. It's like not the rest

439
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,880
Speaker 4: of the year. Just took holidays and like she would

440
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Speaker 4: cook gumbo, which takes like hours and hours. My dad's

441
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Speaker 4: family is from Louisiana, so that was like a big deal.

442
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Speaker 4: We do like the red beans and rice and the

443
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Speaker 4: collar greens, like very traditional, So that was like another

444
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Speaker 4: tradition that I kind of have taken on. Like I

445
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Speaker 4: don't invite a whole bunch of people over, but I

446
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Speaker 4: do like the cooking. I do like the collar greens

447
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Speaker 4: and the black eyed peas. I do like to cook

448
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Speaker 4: top chef.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I love top chefs. I'm not cook. I don't

450
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Speaker 2: know how to how to explain this, So I do

451
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Speaker 2: have questions because any have we talked about this before?

452
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Speaker 2: So in your tradition, y'all didn't do a Christmas Eve

453
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Speaker 2: gift opening like one you can't pick out one gift?

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Speaker 4: No, never heard exactly.

455
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Speaker 2: He came to your house early, so we would have

456
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Speaker 2: no because like we would also give each other gifts.

457
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Speaker 2: So I had so our siblings, would you know when

458
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Speaker 2: you're younger, of course it was a parent's buying for us,

459
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Speaker 2: but like you know, the adult siblings because again we

460
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Speaker 2: had a pretty good age gap, so we would have

461
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Speaker 2: some presents underneath. So we could choose one friend because

462
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Speaker 2: I was very excited about gifts. I love giving gifts

463
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Speaker 2: and all the giving gifts, so so we So am

464
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Speaker 2: I the only one.

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Speaker 4: I've heard of this?

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Speaker 1: I've heard of it I just won one time, just once,

467
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Speaker 1: but I remember it because it was cool. My dad

468
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Speaker 1: took me to Toys r s on Christmas Eve and

469
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Speaker 1: let me pick out a gift. But notably, all of

470
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Speaker 1: our gifts weren't from Santa. They were from mom.

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Speaker 2: So you had no Santa.

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Speaker 1: We had Santa, but that would be like the random

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Speaker 1: things that showed up the next day.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting how people do Santa.

475
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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. Yeah, so all your gifts were from Santa.

476
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Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's somewhere from my parents, but

477
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 3: they just bunched it in with Santa.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like ninety percent Santa. And then they're

479
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 4: like it was like the opposite where like there'd be

480
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Speaker 4: like one or two gifts from mom and dad, and

481
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Speaker 4: then of course like aunts and uncles. Right in my family,

482
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Speaker 4: my mom had a bunch of siblings, so like one

483
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Speaker 4: ant or uncle would be assigned a kid. Yeah, so

484
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Speaker 4: they get like one gift from one of your aunts

485
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 4: and uncles, yes, and then like grandparents, but everything else

486
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Speaker 4: was Santa.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: We did a whole name drawing because we were so

490
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Speaker 2: large of families, so we would draw names and or

491
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 2: play really silly games like the white elephant. I love games, love,

492
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Speaker 2: so I didn't get that later in years. Yeah, so

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Speaker 2: were your presence rapped or unwrapped by Santa?

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Speaker 3: I also had siblings, and I wanted to say that

495
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Speaker 3: we did not give each other gifts. Okay, so maybe

496
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Speaker 3: that's a big difference here too, But I think my

497
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 3: my parents, my mom, you know, it was totally my

498
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Speaker 3: mom's chore to wrap everything. I have three other siblings,

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Speaker 3: so at some point it turned into gifts in a

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Speaker 3: big bag. It's a festive I reminded it. I mean

501
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,439
Speaker 3: I think some were wrapped. I also have like we

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Speaker 3: call them godparents. I mean I guess they are godparents

503
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Speaker 3: and their aunt and uncle gifts and those are wrapped,

504
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,959
Speaker 3: and grandma and grandpa gifts like those would be wrapped.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, bag, all gifts were wrapped. Under of gifts

506
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 4: were wrapped, except for there were a few Christmases I

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Speaker 4: think maybe around the age like nine ten, when I

508
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Speaker 4: feel like that's like peak Christmas time, when it's like

509
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Speaker 4: you're very engaged in the whole idea of having a list,

510
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Speaker 4: you know what you want, and then you're excited the

511
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Speaker 4: toys magazine.

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Speaker 2: Yes, okay, so a sears or the toy I had

513
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Speaker 2: to did you.

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Speaker 3: The best thing ever?

515
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Speaker 1: I didn't even know.

516
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Speaker 2: If you don't know, I would get a catalog and

517
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,640
Speaker 2: we would have to pick out all of our gifts

518
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 2: through that with what page? I don't know.

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Speaker 4: That's very efficient.

520
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Speaker 2: Yeah, my mother because she was not going to guess

521
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,439
Speaker 2: what we would go overboard at the time. But like

522
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Speaker 2: Sears Christmas catalog. Do you all know what I'm talking about?

523
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Speaker 2: So it was a tradition that it comes in and

524
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Speaker 2: every all the kids just.

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Speaker 3: You're supposed to do it that way, right, Like there's

526
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Speaker 3: Mark like squear.

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Speaker 2: They have the specific things. How did so did your

528
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Speaker 2: parents pick out guests lists? You would do?

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Speaker 4: I would do like you.

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Speaker 3: Would you do the list or the toys? It would

531
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Speaker 3: just tell them what I wanted. Yeah, they knew I

532
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 3: always wanted something. I was obsessed with toys.

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Speaker 4: I I was an extended Santa kid. I was like

534
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Speaker 4: that kid that still believed in Santa.

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Speaker 2: Like did they do like the bills? STA? Did you do.

536
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 4: So cute?

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Speaker 2: So my parents did that one time. I think it

538
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 2: was very quick because I did not believe in Santa

539
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 2: from jump because this doesn't make sense, so they try

540
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Speaker 2: to do it for me once or twice, I was like.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, wow, I'm a little conflicted. I think it's like

542
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Speaker 4: I love the idea of it, but like now in

543
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 4: practice thinking of it, it's like, oh my god, of

544
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 4: course you know there's some whimsy like you have to

545
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 4: have like the magic of it all. But it's like,

546
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Speaker 4: at what point are you I don't know, are you

547
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 4: continuing on like a lie? I don't know. I'm still

548
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,719
Speaker 4: not quite sure how we're gonna introduce it or if

549
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 4: it's just gonna be there, because like we do listen

550
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 4: to Christmas music and like all that kind of stuff

551
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 4: is very much like around But I don't know, I do.

552
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 4: I do feel slightly conflicted, only because I was very

553
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 4: sad once I realized, yeah, it did. Like I still

554
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 4: remember the Christmas morning where I was like, something's not

555
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 4: the same. No, literally, that's actually how I felt, and

556
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 4: it was like very sad.

557
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Speaker 2: It was. Did you have that moment, Chrisina.

558
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Speaker 3: I couldn't even tell you when I realized he was

559
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 3: not real. But my family, I have a huge family,

560
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 3: and we have a giant family Christmas party, and there's

561
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 3: always an uncle or a cousin who dresses us Santa

562
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 3: and comes in, and I have a million like little

563
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Speaker 3: cousins and little kid cousins, and I was one of

564
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 3: those at one point, and there would always be like

565
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 3: one gift we all get. It's like the most fun

566
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 3: Christmas memory for being a kid. But we all believed

567
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 3: in Santa for a while too. But I couldn't tell

568
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Speaker 3: you when I do remember a kid who believed in

569
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Speaker 3: Santa really late in that that poor kid Brian.

570
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Speaker 4: He he got bullied.

571
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 3: He got bullied for it, and I feel bad about that.

572
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 4: So when did the Santa come in? Was it Christmas Day?

573
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Speaker 3: No? So we it's I guess it's hard to plan

574
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 3: with so many people. So our party would be like

575
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 3: sometimes even in January, oh wow, maybe early December, mid December.

576
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 3: It's never like on the day or anything. I think

577
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 3: we would all like eat and do like godparent gifts

578
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 3: there and Santa would come in.

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Speaker 4: It was a big fun So it was just like

580
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Speaker 4: a Santa appearance.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I believed it. I mean he came early just

582
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Speaker 3: to come to this party.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I guess it's the same as like pictures

584
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Speaker 4: with Santa, because it's like why is he here? You know,

585
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 4: when you're a kid, you don't think about that.

586
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 2: I've heard that explanation. I worked for him, so it's.

587
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 4: Not the real Santa. He's just like a Santa's friend.

588
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's helping. Did you believe in Santa Claus?

589
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 1: Annie years old?

590
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, So your parents did try to start with

591
00:31:58,560 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 2: Santa stuff.

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00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: I know, but they own they try. I could have

593
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: been very much on my own. I was a very

594
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: imaginative kid. They tried to foster the belief that they

595
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Speaker 1: would do things. But the funniest thing they ever did,

596
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: in my opinion, is I really wanted a swing set

597
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: one year, and they're just not going to give me

598
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: a swing set. It's just not going to happen. So

599
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 1: Santa sent me a note. It was a picture of

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Speaker 1: a swing set, and it was like maybe.

601
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 4: One day.

602
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 2: Taunting.

603
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: It was handwriting, and I remember thinking like it writes

604
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Speaker 1: like my I didn't put it together.

605
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 4: That's actually kind of funny, like a note from Santa

606
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 4: being like, you know, I didn't forget, but not this year.

607
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Speaker 2: Rather than a promise, well did you ever get it?

608
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 4: No, they knew I wasn't like one of those big

609
00:32:54,200 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 4: swing set two swings and a sign. Yeah expensive, Yeah,

610
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Speaker 4: I shouldn't.

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Speaker 1: They were right to be like right.

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00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 2: Like I want a horse, and they're like, we live

613
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 2: in New York, so we can't. That's not going to

614
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Speaker 2: be a thing.

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Speaker 1: That brings us to the end of this Christmas Tradition

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Speaker 1: episode Happy Hour. As mentioned, we do have a second

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Speaker 1: part where we're going to examine New Year's traditions with

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Speaker 1: Christina and Maya as well, so that's going to be

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Speaker 1: really fun. We would love to hear from you listeners,

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Speaker 1: any traditions that you might have. We didn't even get

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Speaker 1: into one I want to ask, which is my grandparents

622
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: used to be really superstitious that you had to take

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Speaker 1: down all the Christmas decorations before New Year's. Oh wow, yes,

624
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: they had to be gone before New Year's or else

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Speaker 1: this New Year's cursed. Yes, So we would love to

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Speaker 1: hear from you if you have any traditions like that

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