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Speaker 3: my dad is a fucking rip off.

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Speaker 3: Just showing how to use the calculators, we all can

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Speaker 2: forget LGBTU. All right, sorry, guys, that's right. Trump administration

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Speaker 3: At least get a figure of how many people out there.

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Speaker 2: since it doesn't mean and you don't even get those

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Speaker 2: It's something something like that.

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Speaker 3: And also I think that people migrate, people move, And

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Speaker 2: Right, then they wouldn't get counted, right.

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Speaker 3: So they said that the numbers are.

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Speaker 2: Always all, well, I know that the numbers won't be

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Speaker 2: So you know, they had the censors had a report

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Speaker 2: Trump administration is actively homophobic, and anyone that told you

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Speaker 2: any I don't know anybody that told you any different

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Speaker 2: The idea that because Trump has a couple of gay

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Speaker 2: these trans people alone. That's that's not what the expectation is.

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Speaker 2: But you're sending a mental like shot at them, like, hey,

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Speaker 2: we don't give a fuck about you. We're not even

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Speaker 3: Come on, they wouldn't count blacks, but they were required

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Speaker 2: Out to yep. So ain't we lucky we got them?

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Speaker 2: Amberhard says if every gay Hollywood actor came out tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: this would be a non issue, basically saying that people

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Speaker 2: long as they stay in the closet, you know, but

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Speaker 2: if people find out, essentially they favorite Hollywood stars were gay,

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Speaker 2: then people would come around.

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Speaker 3: That's not true.

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Speaker 2: She was a guest on the Economists Pride and Prejudice

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Speaker 2: to come out as bisexual in twenty ten, a decision

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Speaker 2: which she recalls is just a matter of responding to

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Speaker 2: an interview question. Truthfully. I just answered honestly. I could

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Speaker 2: her then girlfriend, Tatia Van reed. Then I realized the

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Speaker 2: studio execs, agents, advisors did not want this coming before

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Speaker 3: And that's a form of protest. And that's why I

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Speaker 3: No no, no, no protests me protesting with your dollar,

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Speaker 2: You know. My thing is this though, if it's a

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Speaker 2: what the fuck would that like? Why would that have

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Speaker 2: religious people try to turn it into a choice. They

432
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 2: can say it's a sin, just like I choose to

433
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,439
Speaker 2: smoke a cigarette, or I choose to overeat, or I

434
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,160
Speaker 2: choose this, and God can forgive me for that because

435
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,439
Speaker 2: I made a choice to make that sin. That's the

436
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,439
Speaker 2: real reason people want to call it a choice or not,

437
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 2: because then they want to extend the argument out to

438
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 2: and it's still wrong quote unquote choice that you made

439
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 2: as opposed to it, you're a fucking adult. Not everybody

440
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 2: has to make the same choices like that's I think

441
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 2: that's why people want to frame it that way. And

442
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,879
Speaker 2: I think also it probably helps her to her argument,

443
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 2: just like those gay conversion conversion people to be like, well,

444
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,399
Speaker 2: I was gay and I saved myself from gayness and

445
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 2: that's you know, soy' all you other gay people need

446
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 2: to do that and get right like I did, you know,

447
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 2: I really think that's what it is, you know, and

448
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 2: made like I said, I don't. I don't know the science,

449
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 2: and I think a lot of people don't know the

450
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 2: science behind gender identity and sexual orientation and stuff like

451
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 2: we don't we don't know if it's a your brain

452
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,880
Speaker 2: can mystry. We don't know if it's biological. We don't

453
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,360
Speaker 2: know if it's on me your DNA, Like nobody really

454
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 2: fucking knows. I just don't think it should fucking matter, Like,

455
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:12,159
Speaker 2: why are you? Why are you? No matter what you believe,

456
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,639
Speaker 2: you're not gonna make people not be gay. This is

457
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 2: a thing that has always existed, and what always exists

458
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 2: is that people are gonna be all along this spectrum.

459
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:21,679
Speaker 2: Why the fuck are you so conditioned to try to

460
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 2: control it? You know what I mean? Like I have

461
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,639
Speaker 2: to vilify these people. So that's that's the reason I

462
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 2: push back on the whole talking about whether or not

463
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 2: it's a choice. But at the end of the day,

464
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 2: it wouldn't matter, you know. But I wish I knew

465
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 2: what her first comment was. They even started this shit,

466
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 2: right because because she clearly said something that made people

467
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 2: be like, that's homophobicsist, And then she was like, no,

468
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:43,919
Speaker 2: it's not. I was gay for two years. You know,

469
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 2: I got a black friend, I got gay friends. So uh,

470
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 2: at any rate, I'm not speaking of people homophobes. I'm

471
00:25:55,960 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 2: not homophobic. Candice Cameron Bird defends herself as after she's

472
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 2: a slam for wearing a T shirt with the phrase

473
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 2: made famous by a drag queen. Uh. Now, I've never

474
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 2: heard of Candace Cameron Burr until like two days ago,

475
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 2: and then I found out that apparently I've been known

476
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 2: she was. She was DJ on uh Full House.

477
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I know her real name.

478
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, she is not aged. Well so she don't even

479
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 2: look the same to me. Uh, but yeah, Candas Cameron

480
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 2: Birr has been forced to right. She has been forced

481
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 2: to defend herself after sharing the photo of herself wearing

482
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 2: a T shirt reading not today Satan. The phrase was

483
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 2: coined by drag king Bianca del drag queen biancodell Rio.

484
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 2: The drew and drew criticiens from the performer, who accused

485
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 2: Kandas of being homophobic. The Full House actress is renowned

486
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 2: for being a conservative Christian and has spoken out against

487
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 2: gay marriage in the past. Oh I already know where

488
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:53,640
Speaker 2: this is going.

489
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 3: Uh.

490
00:26:54,960 --> 00:27:01,160
Speaker 2: Biancodale Rio Uh real name Roy Haylock made catchphrase famous

491
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,160
Speaker 2: after using it when she was a competitor on RuPaul's

492
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 2: drag Race. On Thursday, she reposted Kandas's photo caption it

493
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 2: if only this homophobic Republican Knew added in devil faces

494
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 2: and love heart emojis. This prompted Bianca's fans to flood

495
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 2: Kansas's Instagram page or nasty messages accusing her of being homophobic.

496
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 2: Shaking my head, get the top off comment at one critic,

497
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 2: you have no right until you want to support the

498
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 2: LGBT community fully. So Then Candice responded back to Bianca

499
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 2: del Rio, why do you have to be nasty to me?

500
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 2: You don't know me. On my heart, I'm not homophobic

501
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 2: and always sad when people think otherwise. Loving Jesus doesn't

502
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 2: mean I hate gay people or anyone. You send a

503
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 2: bunch of hateful people to my page writing horrible things.

504
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 2: I hope next time you'll spread can love and kindness

505
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 2: even when you disagree with people sending you love and

506
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 2: wish you all the best, truly, Candas, Yeah, Christians are

507
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 2: really good, like the biggest it ones for being like

508
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 2: it's just a disagreement. You know, your whole humanity and shit,

509
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 2: Just I just disagree on it and that's all on this. Yeah,

510
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 2: you know your whole right to exist and your life.

511
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 2: Just yeah, just agree to disagree. But the four hundred

512
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 2: year old, I mean four hundred, but the forty year

513
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 2: old didn't take the criticism lightly and fired off hurt

514
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 2: message to Beyonca. Defending herself. She didn't signed out, sending

515
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,719
Speaker 2: you love and love and wish you all the best truly.

516
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 2: Beyonka forty one then posted her message on Instagram, mocking

517
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 2: the former child star with a series of hashtags and

518
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 2: devil face some moos. She's her response, She catching the

519
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 2: screensot at kandiceburg, hashtag live your life, hashtag love Jesus,

520
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 2: hashtag of fudlicing pride. Still determined how to had the

521
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 2: last word, Beyonca didn shared a photo of herself as

522
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 2: Roy with a confused and hard fight espression on his face,

523
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 2: catching it current mood. Yeah. I mean, that's the thing, dog.

524
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 2: A lot of these people feel like I'm talking about

525
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 2: marriage equality and saying you can't be gay and get

526
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 2: married and shit. But I'm not a homophobe, you know,

527
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 2: because it's that same thing as like nobody's racist, you

528
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like nobody's homophobic either.

529
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 3: Man.

530
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 2: You can literally be against somebody's like entire livelihood and

531
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 2: everything they stand for. But come on, now, you're gonna

532
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 2: really call me homophobic? Just because I don't think you

533
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 2: should be able to get married or have adopt children,

534
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 2: or get the medical coverage for your partner, or I mean,

535
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 2: why can't we disagree to disagree. I just don't get

536
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 2: why you feel this way. I'm sorry. An activist is

537
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 2: threatened for challenging the Trinidad and Tobago law Side of

538
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 2: me law so Caribbean LGBT activists has received almost fifty

539
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 2: death threats following his lawsuit against it YEP against Attorney

540
00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 2: General of Trinidad and Tobago I mean TOBE to remove

541
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 2: the country's anti gay asatomy laws. Trinidad and Tobago is

542
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 2: among the seventy four countries around the world that has

543
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 2: discriminatory laws against the same seis consensual adults. Jason Jones,

544
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 2: who has been an activist in both Trinidad and Tobago

545
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 2: and the UK for twenty eight years, filed a claim

546
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 2: against the state on February twenty third, contesting sanctions thirteen

547
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 2: and sixteen of the country Sexual Offenses Act that criminalized

548
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 2: asideomy between consensual adults and serious indecency, which is defined

549
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 2: as a sexual act outside of intercourse involving genitals. These

550
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 2: clauses in SOA were originally created while Trinidad and Tobago

551
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 2: was a British colony. Directly following independence, a saving clause

552
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 2: was written into the law to preserve any pre colonial law,

553
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 2: making it difficult for private citizens to challenge these colonial

554
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 2: laws in court. Any law pre data independence can only

555
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 2: be challenged by the Parliament. However, Jones and this legal

556
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 2: team said they have discovered a loophole to challenge these laws.

557
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 2: Since he has fout the case, Jones has been harassed

558
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 2: online by people threatening to hurt and kill him. However,

559
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 2: he says many people in his support circles are not

560
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 2: taking this threat seriously. People are threatening to throw petrol

561
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 2: on me and set me on five Jones toe the

562
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 2: Washington Blade in Sport, Porter, Spain, the capitol of Trinidad

563
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 2: and Tobago. They are writing boom bye bye body boy

564
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 2: on my Facebook page. How can I ignore that some

565
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 2: of these threats aren't real. I haven't been able to

566
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 2: keep to sleep properly. Every strange call, odd sound of

567
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 2: anything remotely off has me frightening, right, and.

568
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 3: That's the whole purpose, and that's why they do this shit.

569
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 3: And what's like I said, What's even worse, is it

570
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 3: quote unquote allies on your side tell you that you

571
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 3: when you're gonna nah doll. They actually are threatened to me,

572
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 3: What is it gonna take for you to have a

573
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 3: felm of my ass caught on Fiday? But like, oh

574
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 3: that was real.

575
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, nothing's gonna happen to you. You'll be fine.

576
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 3: Until you get shot, until you die.

577
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 2: It's just online. He said that numerous times, people, particularly

578
00:31:56,040 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 2: young boys, have accosted him in the street, calling him

579
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 2: homophobic slang like bullerman and batty boy. I walk down

580
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 2: Frederick Street in a group of school children, are shot

581
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 2: and bullerman at me. Jones told The Blade, I don't

582
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 2: know if they recognize me because of lawsuit of the

583
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 2: way I dress. But I'm not gonna change my life

584
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 2: because other people are now uncomfortable. Man, I cannot imagine

585
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 2: that level of bravery, to be honest, Like if it

586
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 2: was on some shit where I couldn't walk down the

587
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 2: street with our people being like kill that nigger, I'll

588
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 2: be like, well, I guess it's Amazon Prime for the

589
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 2: rest of my life. Like, I don't even have that

590
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 2: in me to even fight that shit every single day.

591
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 2: I want to go outside, walk down the street. Let alone,

592
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 2: you're challenging the law. Let alone, people are death threatening threatening,

593
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 2: Like who that's a powerful strong person. Since the death threats,

594
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 2: Jones has moved out of the home he was staying

595
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 2: as to protect this roommate, and it's hired personal bodyguards

596
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 2: to protect him around the clock. He must got some

597
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 2: loop man. M m no, they need to get this,

598
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 2: they need to get this messed up sound and let

599
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 2: me buy you a drink m hm refreshing, mm hmm.

600
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

601
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 2: I can't even imagine that. Fuck that ship, especially because uh,

602
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 2: like you know, the government isn't necessarily trying to help

603
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 2: you challenging.

604
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 3: Them, correct, you know? And where that go? You you

605
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 3: looking like shi, y'all my sensitive after my but I guess.

606
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 2: Like it's like started me laws in America, how people

607
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 2: spend Like we essentially use out of the laws to

608
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 2: punish rapist and people having consensual gay sects, right, so

609
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 2: like like like the only two groups of people that

610
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 2: that ever get charged aside of me is like, uh,

611
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 2: you know a person that like sexually assault somebody or

612
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 2: just two men in the park, you know, like that

613
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 2: kind of thing. So I can definitely understand the fear

614
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 2: that that must be associated with this. Okay, cool, I'm

615
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 2: back on screen. I think y'all can see me now, Yes,

616
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 2: I can see you, Okay cool. Uh So, along with

617
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 2: the legal proceedings, Jones is conducting community based advocacy programs

618
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 2: around the country to educate bill LGBT support systems in

619
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 2: Trinidad Tobago. He intends to take his activism to other

620
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 2: Caribbean allans, particularly those that have little LGBT activism. Mm hmm,

621
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:46,959
Speaker 2: I hope, I hope he can be safe. Jones says

622
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 2: he is not making any claim against the state. It's

623
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,439
Speaker 2: not a civil matter, but a constitutional matter to change

624
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 2: the laws, and as such is not seeking the game

625
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 2: money from the state. Jones is funding his legal venture

626
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 2: on his own, with his lawyers working pro bono. I

627
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:01,800
Speaker 2: will not earn a penny off the state of the

628
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 2: Trinidad and Tobago Tobago tax fail.

629
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 3: He's like, look, I'm doing this for a larger calls

630
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 3: like it's a lot of people out here just watching

631
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 3: me take this punishment, just living this lifestyle, your family members,

632
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 3: your friends, but you just don't fucking know it. So

633
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 3: this ain't about me.

634
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,800
Speaker 2: People think that I'm claiming money, but I'm not, and

635
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 2: need is my legal team. His aim is to receive

636
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 2: equality under the Trinity and Tobago laws for all citizens.

637
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 2: This includes marriage equality and protection of the country's Equal

638
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 2: Opportunity Act, which explicitly excludes sexual orientation that's very familiar

639
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 2: to America and North Carolina. I want us to have

640
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 2: everything that had our sexuals had the rights, to Jones

641
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,879
Speaker 2: told to Blade, I'm trying to fight for it all

642
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,720
Speaker 2: in twenty seventeen. It's about time we all treated properly.

643
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 2: We all treated properly. Sorry, but yeah, good, good for him.

644
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 2: I hope that he is safe. I hope that nobody

645
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 2: does anything to him, because you know, that's the kind

646
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 2: a brave civil rights shit that you know of our

647
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 2: time that I think people will look back on and

648
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 2: be like, this dude was like an amazing brave activist.

649
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 2: But then in the current time, he's walking down the street,

650
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 2: people threatening them and nobody saying shit. All right, let's

651
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 2: go to some other news. See what else we got

652
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:27,240
Speaker 2: out here, guys. Oh, did you know? Apparently Fox News

653
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 2: and Bill O'Reilly claim Fox News and Bill O'Reilly have

654
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 2: settled claims with five women for more than thirteen million dollars,

655
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 2: according to The New York Times. M h O'Reilly said

656
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 2: that he's been unfairly targeted because of his public prominence.

657
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 3: A word.

658
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 2: In my more than twenty years at Fox News Channel,

659
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 2: no one has ever filed a complain about me with

660
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 2: the Human resource department, even on the anonymous hotline o'rally.

661
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 2: The host of the o'rally factor of the network's biggest

662
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 2: star at it, I have put to rest any controversies

663
00:36:58,680 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 2: to spare my children.

664
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 3: Mm hm, So you had five different women we had

665
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 3: a problem with you.

666
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 2: Five women not They don't now you. You're not the

667
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 2: only famous person in the world. Five different women that

668
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 2: accuse you of sexual improprieties, brother, five dollars five what

669
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 2: are the odds?

670
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 3: And the thing is they ain't called a hotline. But

671
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 3: what you did was to settle because you didn't look

672
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 3: fast and shit like that that actually come out to

673
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 3: general public.

674
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do. Every time this happened, I do think

675
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 2: about the fact that many of these settlements sometimes they

676
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 2: have language where it's like you can never deny this shit.

677
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 2: So while I agree to keep sounding about it, both

678
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 2: of us have to be sound about it. And uh,

679
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 2: that's what happened with Bill Cosey is he started violating

680
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 2: that shit got brought back up because he started violating

681
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 2: those settlements by talking about it and denying everything. And

682
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 2: those women were like, get my lawy on the phone.

683
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:55,839
Speaker 2: That was the one thing he said he wouldn't do.

684
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 2: And I think for many victims, while too many people

685
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 2: may be your technicality.

686
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 3: If I got to shut up the hell up, you do.

687
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,320
Speaker 2: Two dogs, because silence is part of the way that

688
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 2: they control your victimhood. And and uh, it's just it's like,

689
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 2: here's some money, Shut the fuck up so I can

690
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 2: continue to live my life is essentially what that settlement

691
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 2: is for a lot of these dudes. So yeah, I

692
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 2: you know, when they start denying it, I do wonder

693
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 2: if the shit will start coming back up, because now

694
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 2: it'll be like, well, this technically violates what we agree to.

695
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 3: But you may particularly the women got your funny who

696
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 3: are in a position where they have some type of

697
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 3: money to actually your four lawyers can't get their money

698
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 3: together and be like, hey, he violated it. How small

699
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 3: we violated it.

700
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, we already had reported on two of the cases.

701
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 2: But now they're saying that's five, so that's three more.

702
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 2: The largest settlement was a payout of nine million dollars

703
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 2: and a sexual harassment lawsuit former New Fox News producer

704
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 2: Andrea Macris brought against o'relly in twenty two thousand and

705
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,280
Speaker 2: four in The New York Times, two settlements will reached

706
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 2: last year after L's departure because that motherfucker was accused

707
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:07,879
Speaker 2: of some shit too. They were just like, we need

708
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 2: to just open up the Peggy Bank. It's sad that

709
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 2: they have this much money. By the way, this should

710
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 2: have put them out of business, like Gawker, Come on dog.

711
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 2: Fox News anchor Laurie Do accuse O'Reilly and L's are

712
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 2: harassing her, but not sexually. Juliet Huddy, a regular guest

713
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,280
Speaker 2: on O'Riley show, accused o'relly of pursuing the sexual relationship

714
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 2: with her and trying to hamper her career after she

715
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 2: rejected his advances. Attorney Mackris, Do and Hoddy, attorneys for them,

716
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:38,439
Speaker 2: did not respond to calls yet last year they agreed

717
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 2: to play at Fox News agreed to play a twenty

718
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 2: million dollar settlement to Gretchen Carlson on behalf of l's

719
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 2: who denied any wrong doing twenty million dollars. But you

720
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 2: ain't doing nothing wrong.

721
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 3: You ain't doing nothun like.

722
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 2: You ain't want that shit to go to the court, right.

723
00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 3: Like I said, when you started doing this and don't

724
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 3: care nobody say, nine million dollars ain't no Trump change, nigga,

725
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 3: You was like, I'm gonna lose pull like this. I'm

726
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 3: gonna lose more than nine million dollars fucking around and

727
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 3: letting this shit come public. So let's pay to them

728
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 3: this nine million dollars dropping a bucket compared to what

729
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 3: I'm gonna lose to you cause five random women who

730
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 3: probably don't know each other and not associate with each other,

731
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 3: but so probably worked in various years. Yeah, he did

732
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 3: this ship m hue allegedly, of course, under the comedy license.

733
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 2: We're all joking. Why Twitter got rid of racist eggs?

734
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,240
Speaker 3: They ain't got no racist eggs.

735
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 2: They will no longer be eggs. When you log into

736
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 2: Twitter for the first time, what was it gonna be?

737
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,919
Speaker 3: Whatever the hell that is? Chicken, cow, pig. They'll start

738
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:48,919
Speaker 3: arresting with that ship.

739
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this now has a dog and flag.

740
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 2: Avid Stock to the roof American. Yeah, if you arrested,

741
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 2: if you invested it, and patriotic means uh in the

742
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 2: racism stock market, Your ass about to come up.

743
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 3: Gonna go through the roof. So okay, I ain't got

744
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 3: no egg now, So I'm getting harassed by cats, by dogs.

745
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get harassed by make America great hats. I'm

746
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 3: gonna get harassed by that said American ball eagle. You

747
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 3: know anything with stars and stripes. Yeah, that's all you're not.

748
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:29,879
Speaker 3: You're not stopping harassment dogs, landscapes, Yeah, random.

749
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 2: Land pictures of Trump, right, pictures of Bernie Sanders.

750
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 3: Oh that's another good one.

751
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 2: Oh I said it. I went there.

752
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I.

753
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 2: Don't give a fuck. I know that's your man. I

754
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:44,720
Speaker 2: know you thought it was over between us.

755
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 3: Mm mmmmcause y'all won't let it go away. Check how

756
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 3: about that.

757
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 2: I'm gonna still be on his ass anyway.

758
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 3: What now now instead of a regular EDG, it's gonna

759
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 3: scramble the egg? What the hell?

760
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 2: Well? I got the picture on the screen right not

761
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 2: you can't see it.

762
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 3: It looks like oh that generic thing like at your

763
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 3: job when they be like put your photo beside it.

764
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 3: So people can see your face. I always leave it blank.

765
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:10,760
Speaker 3: So I'm like, nope, well go ahead.

766
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,240
Speaker 2: No, No, it's just a picture. It looks like a

767
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,720
Speaker 2: kind of like the outline of a person.

768
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:19,839
Speaker 3: But they just gonna harass you with that now.

769
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't understand why they think this will work.

770
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 2: I mean, have they done some sort of actual psychological

771
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 2: evaluations that says people don't aren't racist when they see

772
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 2: a shadow that looks faintly like a cartoon symble of

773
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 2: a person. Because I don't see why they think this

774
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 2: would change anything with the racism right.

775
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 3: And I even had to tell even some of the

776
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 3: fans of the show, they'll hit me up and I'm

777
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 3: and I'm like, hey, doll, are you real? I ask

778
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 3: people that they'd be like yeah. I'm like, well, you

779
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 3: know right now you might not quote unquote no, not

780
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,959
Speaker 3: the rules. Put a picture up because I don't fake

781
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 3: the eggs. It's only one egg I follow, that's Frances

782
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 3: in Maryland. I don't follow those of the eggs.

783
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 2: Twitter wants people to use this space to show us

784
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,879
Speaker 2: who they are. It announces it announced on this corporate block.

785
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 2: The new default image more like an empty state or

786
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 2: placeholder and we hope it encourages people to upload images

787
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 2: that expressed themselves.

788
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, because and you're not making a requirement. Okay,

789
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,919
Speaker 3: so you're gonna have people just gonna make fifteen hundred

790
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 3: different accounts with this generic version of the eggs because

791
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 3: it's still an egg quote unquote, got an egg head

792
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,439
Speaker 3: with a half a circle body, so it's still an egg.

793
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 2: And now it's like two eggs, right, so a little

794
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 2: baby egg and then like a like a Ostrich egg

795
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 2: and then like a a Terrono sours Rex egg.

796
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 3: All right, So now I'm getting harassed by twice as

797
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 3: many eggs, that's all you're telling me. And I think

798
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 3: the thing is in a lot of these places, Facebook

799
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 3: included a lot of these social media places, there's no

800
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 3: diversity and the people that make the decision making and

801
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 3: a lot of these companies, and so because you know people,

802
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 3: there's no people that are coloring any of these positions.

803
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 3: They have platforms, particularly Twitter, they don't know how the

804
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 3: fucking platforms function. They don't understand what people truly use

805
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 3: these platforms for. So that's why it's easy for them

806
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 3: to dismiss a lot of shit because they barely even

807
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 3: go out there. You know, you you work for the

808
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 3: company and own the company, and you barely have any followers,

809
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 3: you barely interact with anybody. But yet you don't know

810
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 3: how people are getting harassed or when people do harass,

811
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:35,479
Speaker 3: you know what you do, You lock the fuck off.

812
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 3: You don't even really go in to see why this

813
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 3: shit is happening, because you go on in social media,

814
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 3: you say, you say stupid shit, and then you get

815
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 3: mad like it's just the worst thing ever, when you

816
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 3: don't really understand how your platform functions and there's nobody

817
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 3: there to go, this shit is dumb and this won't

818
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 3: change people's fucking behavior, because that's what you need to change,

819
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 3: not the abbes.

820
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they just need to kick gracious peop off. Right,

821
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 2: some do some IP bands.

822
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 3: Do, some people right because this one, well, I see,

823
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 3: if you made fifteen accounts from the same IP address

824
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 3: and all of these accounts have been flagged, you're banned.

825
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 3: It's okay to have fifteen IP addresses on the same

826
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 3: But if I see, out of fifty fifty different accounts

827
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 3: you have, all fifty of them have been flagged at

828
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,240
Speaker 3: some period of time, Yes, I'm banning that goddamn ip address.

829
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 2: Why not, yep, But they refuse to do that.

830
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 3: Right because you know they're about quantity, not quality. And

831
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 3: the thing is, then you wonder, why don't nobody fucking

832
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 3: want to buy you? Nobody wants to deal with people

833
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 3: being harassed on their platform.

834
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we talked about this yesterday. Kendrick Lamar

835
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 2: got got roasted for well, not even roasted really because

836
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 2: a lot of people are defending them, but uh, he

837
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:01,399
Speaker 2: kind of got uh some bad slash over a line

838
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 2: in his song Humble. I'm so fucking sick of tired

839
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 2: of the photoshop showed me something natural like an afro,

840
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 2: and Richard Pryor showed me something natural like ass with

841
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 2: some stretch marks. A lot of women express disappointment and

842
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 2: outrage over Humble on social media, knowing that Kendrick was

843
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 2: putting down a segment of females in an attempt to

844
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 2: uplist other Some other critics are fans of Kendrick's work,

845
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 2: yet they feel he comes up short when it comes

846
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,839
Speaker 2: to addressing topics related to women. You know, I love

847
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 2: Kendrick and Humble is amazing, but that man is hell

848
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 2: problematic when it comes to women, more specifically black women

849
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 2: on Twitter user road. Yeah, I mean, I think you

850
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 2: know what it is too. I was thinking about this

851
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:43,879
Speaker 2: es Day we talked about in the car after the show.

852
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 2: Part of it is just people want to feel good,

853
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 2: correct about something, and when someone else comes in and

854
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 2: tells them how they shit is, that shit is fucked up,

855
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 2: people get super defensive over the fact that they can't

856
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:04,240
Speaker 2: no longer, they can no longer feel good without without

857
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 2: at least understanding the cost of it has to somebody else, right,

858
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 2: you know. And I think everybody wants to be the

859
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 2: hero of their own like story, and the hero would

860
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 2: never do anything that would make other people mad, you know,

861
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 2: So you have to rationalize out why other people are

862
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 2: mad and why it doesn't matter why they're wrong. But

863
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 2: you know, I think you can kind of exist in

864
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 2: a space where you like Kendrick Lamar's song. And yeah,

865
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,919
Speaker 2: it is kind of patronizing the way he looks at women,

866
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 2: you know, I don't you know, I don't find it

867
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 2: to be just because he's not the quote unquote worst

868
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 2: at at at how he talks about women, it doesn't

869
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 2: make it not a problem, correct, you know? So, And

870
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,800
Speaker 2: I think more importantly, with Kendrick, A lot of the

871
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 2: pushback towards him really comes because people that you know

872
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 2: in many cases of his they do this with Jaco too,

873
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 2: they do this with Navs, but they elevate them to

874
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,879
Speaker 2: some type of black leadership precision that they never paym

875
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 2: pain for or seem to have wanted. No, it's like,

876
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 2: because they're rappers that don't just talk about the run

877
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 2: of the mill shit, people really put them in some

878
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 2: type of like category where they're not really They're not

879
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 2: that either, Like Kendrick Lamar is not exactly an activist,

880
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 2: Kendrick Lamar is not. He doesn't get paid to go

881
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 2: speak at colleges he doesn't like and doesn't seem to

882
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 2: want that and seems to be okay with that, and

883
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 2: even with the criticisms. I don't know. I mean, I

884
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 2: know he's youngish, but I don't know that he would

885
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:49,479
Speaker 2: grow or not grow based on this will tell yeah,

886
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 2: I mean, because my thing is people keep throwing like

887
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,800
Speaker 2: he'll grow out of it, and maybe he will. I don't.

888
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 2: I never put it beyond any person who had the

889
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 2: capacity to change and grow and see things wrong. But

890
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,359
Speaker 2: the thing is, I don't know why he would change

891
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 2: because people are praising him for the bare minimum when

892
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 2: it comes to his discussions of women, Like just the

893
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 2: fact that he didn't say, all y'all stupid bitches, y'all

894
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 2: need to be fucking sucking his dick for it. I mean,

895
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 2: why y'all not thankful? Damn what else do y'all want?

896
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 2: Y'all was dancing the bad and boogie and now y'all

897
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 2: mad at this? Like people really do expect women to

898
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 2: be uh, and then in this case, black women to

899
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 2: be happy with the bare minimum, you know.

900
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 3: Right when it's not. You know, for them, you don't

901
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 3: have to have the bare minimum. It's like, well, damn bitches,

902
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 3: at least he says something about your black ass, and

903
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 3: you're like, well, I can still rock with something and

904
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 3: enjoy something. And still says problematic most music that most

905
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 3: people listen to, no matter what the genre is. I

906
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 3: would continue to say this is problematic on some way

907
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 3: shape from a fashion.

908
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 2: Well, also, I just think he anybody, and this happens

909
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 2: with anybody. To be honest, you express a preference, you're

910
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 2: gonna catch You're gonna catch some backlash. Like it's not

911
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 2: a vacuum that this shit is happening in you know,

912
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:08,479
Speaker 2: women's bodies are politicized and all that shit.

913
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 3: So a lot of women are getting tired of like

914
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:12,399
Speaker 3: just leaving bullshit.

915
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, like just rap about how hot your bars are

916
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 2: and don't tell me how to dress or think or

917
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 2: what the you know whatever. And in this case, what happened,

918
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 2: I think is he picked a group of women that

919
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 2: typically don't get that shout out. So there are some

920
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 2: women that are gonna be like, yeah, I actually fuck

921
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 2: with this song, and fuck everybody got a problem with it.

922
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 2: I don't. I didn't get surgery, and I'm tired of

923
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 2: these rappers worshiping, you know, all the women that get surgery.

924
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 2: I'm tired of these rappers worshiping and the women that

925
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 2: you know, don't have stretch marks so don't have natural froze.

926
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 2: And now we finally get a nigga that's like, that's

927
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 2: what I prefer, and y'all about to shoot on him.

928
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 2: I mean I've seen that too, you know. You know,

929
00:50:58,080 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 2: I'm not here to tell people how they have to

930
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 2: feel about this person advocated or not advocating for their body.

931
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 2: But I mean, without I think, without even debating it,

932
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 2: it's definitely a put down to a certain type of woman.

933
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just, you know, it is what it is.

934
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,959
Speaker 2: But uh yeah, I mean I still enjoyed the song,

935
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 2: but I just don't find it. I don't find it

936
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 2: to be so I don't understand why people would need

937
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 2: to defend their enjoyment of that song. Either you enjoyed

938
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:33,399
Speaker 2: it and you recognize that it's problematic but it didn't

939
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 2: bother you, or you enjoyed it and you see other

940
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 2: people think it was problematic and you're bothered by the

941
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 2: fact that other people find it problematic, right, you know,

942
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 2: which I mean, you're never gonna get consensus on shit

943
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 2: like that, you know. But yeah, I saw a lot

944
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 2: of people, you know, going in of course black men,

945
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 2: with the number one people being really dismissive, like y'all

946
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 2: just y'all care too much, y'all just you know. But

947
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 2: it's like even in that, you know, you're exerting the

948
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:06,839
Speaker 2: exact kind of privilege that enables Kendrick Lamar to.

949
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 3: Never like grow out of that shit, correct, Like he.

950
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 2: Never gonna learn as long as wigging dismiss women's concerns

951
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:17,800
Speaker 2: with oh so y'all just can't enjoy nothing or y'all.

952
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 2: Just why can't I just listen to this? You know,

953
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 2: as long as we come at it with that angle,

954
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 2: he won't get better because Mike, I think also people

955
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 2: don't have a vision to see. But the way I

956
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:31,240
Speaker 2: feel about a lot of shit is like if Kendrick

957
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:33,839
Speaker 2: had because he has the skill and the talent, if

958
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,720
Speaker 2: Kendrick would have dropped some type of song that would

959
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:40,720
Speaker 2: have found a way to uplift a lot of sisters

960
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 2: without dissing other sisters, people would have been like, yes,

961
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 2: like that, like that's the song I want to hear.

962
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 2: And I think people would have given him even more props,

963
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,359
Speaker 2: you know, as opposed to less. You know, even with

964
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 2: like Beyonce found a way to do Lemonade without like

965
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 2: even even with the idea that jay Z cheated on

966
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 2: her in this, you know, in this in this album

967
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 2: it's narrative that she told, but she did it without

968
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 2: like coming at some other women on some like and

969
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 2: this is what's wrong with you bitches and da da

970
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 2: da dada. Like she found a way. I think a

971
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 2: lot of people can find a way. But if you yeah,

972
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 2: but if you enable that person, they never will, you know,

973
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:28,919
Speaker 2: Like I mean Kendrick, in my opinion, when he talked

974
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 2: about the what about black on black crime shit in

975
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 2: that interview and then Black of their Berry, It's like,

976
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,959
Speaker 2: I understand the impetus for those emotions. If you're black

977
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 2: and you care about black people in America, you probably

978
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,879
Speaker 2: had those thoughts, you know, And in a mostly black

979
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 2: place and a black discussion, you can probably have that

980
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 2: discussion with some black people like, Okay, the cops are

981
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 2: killing us and that's fucked up. We also have to

982
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 2: stop this violence in our community. Da da da da.

983
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 2: If it's a really black space and everybody trusted each other,

984
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 2: you can have that conversation. You just can't have that

985
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 2: conversation in fucking roland Stone, you know. You can't have

986
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 2: that conversation the album that everybody's gonna hear for the

987
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,919
Speaker 2: most part, just then you have to invite these prior

988
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:12,720
Speaker 2: eyes and you're gonna have to discussion. But I think

989
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:17,399
Speaker 2: a lot of people really just feel like they want

990
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 2: to enjoy things, and when they find out that people

991
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 2: have issues with the things they enjoyed, that's where the

992
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 2: backlash comes from.

993
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 3: Right, I can enjoy the shit and just and let

994
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 3: you speak whatever your truth is. And be valid and say, Okay,

995
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 3: I agree with you. I'm just to still flames, but

996
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 3: I agree with you. I'm not gonna argue it gets

997
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 3: your point.

998
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think his is mostly because of his

999
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 2: fans pushing him as more than just a rapper, right,

1000
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 2: because because like that's the hypocrisy and it lies to

1001
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 2: me when you want to elevate him the more than

1002
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 2: a rapper when he's making alright, when he's doing I like,

1003
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 2: then we want to push him the more than just

1004
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 2: a rapper for some people. And when you know, like

1005
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:09,800
Speaker 2: I've seen people pick Kendrick Lamar's raps against black women's

1006
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:11,240
Speaker 2: activism in the streets.

1007
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 3: That's not the same.

1008
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:13,839
Speaker 2: But I've seen it, you know what I mean. I've

1009
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,399
Speaker 2: seen it on toy where it's like, man, he talking

1010
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 2: about this, that and the other what you're doing. It's like, well,

1011
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 2: I actually organize this thing and you know da nah

1012
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 2: he you know. And there's also the thing of he

1013
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 2: in many areas where he's pro black, there's gonna be

1014
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 2: some some issues that he has with women that's still

1015
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 2: gonna be possibly problematic. I don't know what kind of

1016
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 2: women he's necessarily running into or looking at looking for

1017
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 2: in his life in a rap game. I know he

1018
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 2: has a wife or a girlfriend or something, but you know,

1019
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:51,360
Speaker 2: we don't really you don't really know what the average

1020
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:54,240
Speaker 2: representation of a woman is when it comes to these dudes.

1021
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:56,919
Speaker 2: They really might just be on some like I see

1022
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,919
Speaker 2: groovers backstage, and that's womanhood to me, and these women

1023
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,360
Speaker 2: to be told to respect themselves and all this shit,

1024
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 2: and it is kind of the meaning and your your

1025
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,320
Speaker 2: music goes out to a lot of different people. Not

1026
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 2: everybody's gonna be down with that shit, you know, but

1027
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 2: uh yeah, I definitely enjoyed the song. But at the

1028
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 2: same time, I'm like, yeah, when I heard the line,

1029
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, yeah, people gonna have a problem

1030
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 2: with that. Yeah. I just think I just think people

1031
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 2: would be better, sir, rather than trying to invalidate the arguments,

1032
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 2: to listen to what people are saying, right and.

1033
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 3: Let people speak. And that's the problem, particularly being a

1034
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:36,880
Speaker 3: black woman, people you get tired of every time you

1035
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 3: open up your mouth. It's a motherfucking problem. And some

1036
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:40,439
Speaker 3: man got to come and tell you what to think

1037
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 3: and how to feel, and how what you're saying ain't writing,

1038
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 3: how you just crying for the sake of crying. Don't

1039
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 3: that sound like white folks, y'all don't know, sound like

1040
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 3: white folks with the black man is shot and street?

1041
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's yeah. And the thing is it's

1042
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 2: not new and and all the shit that people are

1043
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 2: saying is so midic because when they say, like, y'all

1044
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 2: ain't have a problem with they yes, actually a lot

1045
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:03,319
Speaker 2: of people did have a problem with whatever you were

1046
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 2: about to say. They didn't have a problem with There's

1047
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 2: a lot of people that had a problem with it.

1048
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 2: The difference is nobody elevates the migos to fucking us

1049
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 2: as a cudgel against black people and what they not

1050
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 2: doing and shit like that, you know. And like I said,

1051
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 2: I love Kendrick, but he got some hotel in them.

1052
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 2: You know, it is what it is, you know, love outcast,

1053
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 2: they got some hotel in the like, Like, I'm not

1054
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 2: seeking perfection from them, dudes. But at the same time,

1055
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 2: when people critique them, I'm not jumping in front of

1056
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 2: no bullets or trying to invalidate their critique by saying

1057
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 2: they are you. Oh, you can't even listen to just

1058
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 2: jam Like Kendrick is presented as an artist that you

1059
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 2: don't just listen to in jam, So you just can't

1060
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 2: have it both ways. Like his words mean a lot

1061
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 2: to people, but then when people say, well I didn't

1062
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:52,959
Speaker 2: like the words that he said, Now all of a sudden,

1063
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 2: we can't care, we shouldn't care, you know. I fuck

1064
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 2: with Kendrick heavy, But yeah, it's you know, at the

1065
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 2: end of the day, dude is still a rapper putting

1066
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 2: out music to the public. Not everybody gonna agree with it,

1067
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 2: and not every critique of them is some shit that

1068
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 2: you need to battle or tell people that they're wrong

1069
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 2: for noticing or whatever. And like I said, it's telling

1070
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 2: that in general it's mostly men telling women not to care.

1071
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 2: But the destruct that he's talking about women, you know

1072
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 2: what I mean? Like, you know what, I got a

1073
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 2: perfect example for this. I'm glactually glad I listened to

1074
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 2: above these songs yesterday, perfect example to this. Now these

1075
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 2: won't get as much traction because I think we have

1076
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 2: a lot less a lower bar for these artists I'm

1077
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 2: about to play. And also because it happened at the

1078
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 2: same weekend that Kendrick had his shit. But Kanye West,

1079
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 2: I don't love yourself. I was listening to this yesterday.

1080
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 2: Let me get to his part. But yeah, I was

1081
00:58:53,960 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 2: listening to this t you be face can.

1082
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 5: I got it?

1083
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 6: Put my lefter home.

1084
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 3: But I knew something they didn't know. I know myself

1085
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:23,479
Speaker 3: must else go stark clouds and wouldn't ask you. Oh,

1086
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 3: you gotta love yourself if you really want to fare

1087
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 3: with some one go.

1088
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 7: You gotta feed yourself before you feed somebody else. You

1089
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 7: gotta stay open and don't be fooling because they're being bad.

1090
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 7: It don't mean you well, you gotta love yourself before

1091
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 7: you love somebody else.

1092
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 8: Love yourself, no thing.

1093
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:03,480
Speaker 2: I decided not to use my color as a handicap.

1094
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 2: He signed, let's produce to andy rap He'll under saying

1095
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 2: virtue or just ride out the box. Decide not to

1096
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 2: use my color as a handicap. Kanye, Like I said,

1097
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 2: Kanye is to pro blackness as fucking Maggie Kelly is

1098
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 2: the feminism like but but like the bar is lower

1099
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 2: for that dude, like he can drop that bar and

1100
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 2: everybody about to be like rather than think piece it up.

1101
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 2: It's like, well, we don't elevate this nigga as a

1102
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 2: spokesman for anybody but Kanye West. So you just won't

1103
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 2: see it. The problem is fans for Kendrick do elevate

1104
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 2: him in many cases to more than a rapper when

1105
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 2: it's convenient, and less than a rapper when and just

1106
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 2: a rapper when there's a backlash against something that he said.

1107
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 2: You know. So that was one of them, and then

1108
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 2: the other one was my man logic who dropped song everybody,

1109
01:00:57,120 --> 01:01:00,479
Speaker 2: which is on some almost it's almost some all lives

1110
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 2: matter shit. Let me let me get to the part

1111
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 2: that I was just like, really, nigga and Jr.

1112
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 8: Hope of Witness God is my witness and witness foot

1113
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 8: on the real I think I need another witness. If

1114
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 8: it was seventeen seventeen, black dad and white Mama wouldn't

1115
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 8: change the things like scared motherfuckers to.

1116
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 2: The pods a house.

1117
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 8: Nigga, Well, I be goddamn go figure, and my blood

1118
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 8: is to slay venom mass stuff. It's like the devil

1119
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 8: player's face with the pas stuff, but he was born

1120
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 8: with the white friend lash man. What the fuck is

1121
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 8: that white people told me as a child, as a

1122
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 8: little boy playing with his toys, that should be ashamed

1123
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 8: to be black, and some black people look ashamed when

1124
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 8: I wrapped like my great granddaddy didn't take a whip

1125
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 8: to the back. Not accepted by the black of the white.

1126
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:37,959
Speaker 8: I don't give a fuck.

1127
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 3: Praise God.

1128
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 8: I can see the light everybody took about racist race stack.

1129
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 8: I wish I could have raised that faith sax everybody people,

1130
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 8: everybody bleed, everybody needs something, everybody loves. Everybody know how

1131
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 8: it goes everybody's people.

1132
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 2: Now, sure most white people listening to that, like, what's

1133
01:01:56,960 --> 01:02:00,120
Speaker 2: the problem with that? But I bet there's a tunnel

1134
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 2: people they hear that shit and go, man, fuck logic.

1135
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 3: Not.

1136
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 2: The reason I'm bringing that up is to people of

1137
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:10,600
Speaker 2: privilege in that discussion. They don't know what the fuck

1138
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 2: you niggas are so mad about. Right, That's how I

1139
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 2: feel about the Kendrick shit with the oh A lot

1140
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 2: of black women upset with some not every black woman,

1141
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 2: but a lot of black women. I up said about it.

1142
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 2: That can be a valid critique and the song gemmen.

1143
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 2: But yes, I feel you. That's that's the issue I have.

1144
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 2: I'm not fighting you on that issue. Kendrick can improve

1145
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:37,000
Speaker 2: on that shit. You know, there's no reason to say

1146
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 2: that a person that's still breathing can't be better about

1147
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:46,160
Speaker 2: things if they if they care to, or the same

1148
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 2: thing with this logic. Shit, if you had a discussion

1149
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 2: with the average white person, they be like, well, he said,

1150
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 2: white kids picked on them and black kids picked on them. Man,

1151
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 2: everybody's people. And I mean, you just wish people would

1152
01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:00,919
Speaker 2: stop talking about race. So I don't understand why y'all

1153
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 2: are so mad about this because they don't understand from

1154
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 2: your perspective. And but it's their privilege allows them to

1155
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 2: be like, y'all just two woked injoy things, y'all just

1156
01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 2: too y'all, just y'all just cared too much about shit.

1157
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 2: So I think that is the way that I view

1158
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:21,120
Speaker 2: the Kendrick shit. So you know, all that to say, like,

1159
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 2: if you don't care, then don't say shit, you know,

1160
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 2: if you really don't care. Speaking of caring too much,

1161
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 2: apparently the original aunt Vill had a problem with the

1162
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 2: Fresh Prince cast getting together and taking a photo together.

1163
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 3: Apparently did from what I've seen, she was not too pleased.

1164
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, they took a picture with the new aunt Vill

1165
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 2: the light skinn one. Now here's the thing, I don't

1166
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 2: know everything Janny Hewett has done since leaving that well,

1167
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 2: getting kicked off that show. I don't really know. What

1168
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 2: I do know is she won't stop talking about it,

1169
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 2: so I can't even really I can't tell you either,

1170
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:11,040
Speaker 2: you know, at this point, I who knows what else

1171
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 2: she could have been on twenty seven other TV shows.

1172
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 2: I literally don't know, because every time I see her,

1173
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 2: the only thing she talking about is this one show

1174
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 2: that she's mad at these people. And it's been fucking

1175
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:22,560
Speaker 2: twenty years. So I want to say it was like

1176
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 2: the twentieth anniversary or something of this last episode of

1177
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 2: the show, Damn we Old and they reunited without her,

1178
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 2: and they took a picture, and she apparently had some

1179
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 2: words to say about it. Black trits Janet Hubert, Yes,

1180
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:45,920
Speaker 2: Black trist on Facebook. That's her chosen form of media,

1181
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 2: she says, I know the media ho our finds Overbero

1182
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 2: has posted this so called reunion photo. Folks keep telling

1183
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 2: me about it. He was always the ass white for

1184
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 2: will there will never be a true reunion of the

1185
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 2: Fresh Prince no interest in seeing any of these people

1186
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:04,400
Speaker 2: on that kind of level. I am not offended in

1187
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:06,120
Speaker 2: the least by this photo. It was an event for

1188
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 2: Karen's charity. It does, however, prompt me to take some

1189
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 2: meetings in Hollywood to pitch my memoir. Perfection is not

1190
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 2: a sitcom, Mom, and tell of the besond the scenes

1191
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 2: story before I leave this earth. Derek responds, refreshing to

1192
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 2: see someone in Hollywood community refuse the comrades integer even

1193
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:27,120
Speaker 2: at the expense of that career. Bet you sleep fine

1194
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 2: at night. Nothing against Daphney reed, But bravo is the

1195
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:34,560
Speaker 2: real aunt Vil. Oh, bravo to the real Anvil. She

1196
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 2: responded to hate, sweetheart, I really do. If they had

1197
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:40,520
Speaker 2: done to anyone of my castman was what they did

1198
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 2: to me, I would have stood up for them a

1199
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 2: long time ago. They need to stay connected to Will

1200
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 2: call it will, I call it will fair. I have

1201
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 2: no I have no bars. I have no need for

1202
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:54,920
Speaker 2: his services, no need for him to endorse me in

1203
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:57,120
Speaker 2: anything I do. He has no power in my life.

1204
01:05:57,400 --> 01:05:59,439
Speaker 2: But he does what he but he does in there

1205
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 2: so they must do the hollyweird thing. Bless them. I'm

1206
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:06,600
Speaker 2: not a hope for Hollyweird. I am more content to Yeah,

1207
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 2: you alla know what's funny about that? Though by her

1208
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:13,520
Speaker 2: hatred to him, she is vicariously living off of him.

1209
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:16,720
Speaker 2: Everything around her centers around the way an eighteen year

1210
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 2: old kid or whatever felt about the negotiations with the network.

1211
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:24,600
Speaker 3: I might be wrong, but I hope there was some

1212
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:26,960
Speaker 3: maturity for everybody.

1213
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 2: Between the shows and the twenty years.

1214
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hope thel some level of maturity.

1215
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1216
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 3: I might be wrong, but I hope eighteen nineteen, twenty

1217
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 3: some year old person that has lived going en up

1218
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:42,480
Speaker 3: a lot of them in their forties now to have

1219
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 3: some form of evolution.

1220
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:48,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it says Will Smith is forty eight years old.

1221
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:52,440
Speaker 2: So if that show ran for how many seasons they

1222
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:55,840
Speaker 2: say six to seven, I don't know. And then it

1223
01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 2: was a twenty year anniversary like yesterday or whatever that means.

1224
01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 2: This was like twenty Well, she decided to fuck him

1225
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 2: for life. She responded to another person who says they

1226
01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 2: fear you. She says, my story has never changed. We

1227
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 2: accept when men stand up, but when women do it,

1228
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:16,560
Speaker 2: we are bitches. Yep, I'm a proud b I tch

1229
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:21,400
Speaker 2: being in total control of herself. So I said, I've

1230
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 2: always known that on the most of the greatest sitcoms

1231
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:25,720
Speaker 2: that I grew up on, there was some degrees attention

1232
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 2: and disagreement. What sitcom has it going through it? What

1233
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:30,760
Speaker 2: really gets me. Is the way television industry treats the

1234
01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:33,439
Speaker 2: greatest of actresses. Da da da. She says, true that

1235
01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:35,760
Speaker 2: the replacement mother would be as surprised at what the

1236
01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:38,000
Speaker 2: cast had to say about her to me, just a

1237
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:40,160
Speaker 2: bit of tea and then she put a shock face

1238
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 2: emoji so and says, I miss you. The show is

1239
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:46,640
Speaker 2: not the same. Hollywood was not ready for you. And

1240
01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 2: she was findal. Like I always said, if you want

1241
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 2: me to kiss ass, just put him put it in

1242
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 2: my contract. Mm hmm. So she was out here letting

1243
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:01,280
Speaker 2: y'all know what time it was when it came to

1244
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 2: will Smith and that whole Alfonso sheep a hose for

1245
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:11,080
Speaker 2: she stay mad.

1246
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm, she's not here, yeallful.

1247
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:17,040
Speaker 2: Beauty they called the beauty Jackson. In this bossip, it

1248
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 2: says Janey Hubrett will definitely tell you your oldest sister

1249
01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:27,840
Speaker 2: was actually your mom at Big Mama's funeral. At the funeral, man,

1250
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:32,240
Speaker 2: she is gonna stay mad at them niggas till she dies. Yep.

1251
01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 3: Like I said, I really do hope that they matured,

1252
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:38,920
Speaker 3: because don't tell you most people in their twenties was

1253
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:43,720
Speaker 3: not thoughtful, didn't consider anybody else like self centered, very

1254
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:47,560
Speaker 3: very few twenty year olds or things I mean, And that's.

1255
01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:51,360
Speaker 2: If that's if he was wrong. Like the assumption is

1256
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:54,800
Speaker 2: he might have been wrong or not understood the ramifications

1257
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:59,720
Speaker 2: at twenty that she understood at you know, forty, she's

1258
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:03,200
Speaker 2: six now according to the chat. But at the same time,

1259
01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 2: there's also this thing where it's like, what if he

1260
01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:07,960
Speaker 2: was right right?

1261
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:10,880
Speaker 3: What if something happened and you wouldn't get the long right?

1262
01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:13,479
Speaker 2: It wasn't his only source of income. He had bigger

1263
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 2: He got a bigger ideas in mine for his career.

1264
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:18,480
Speaker 2: And he was like, man, I don't want to negotiate.

1265
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:20,639
Speaker 2: Because her thing was like, well, if you hold it out,

1266
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:22,639
Speaker 2: we'll all get more money. He was like, I don't

1267
01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:25,320
Speaker 2: want to do that. And then she was like, this, motherfucker,

1268
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 2: it's his fault everything that happened to me. A Tyrannosaurus

1269
01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 2: rex may have been a sensitive lover, according to a

1270
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:41,280
Speaker 2: new dinosaur discovery. Oh mm hmm, that's right. It might

1271
01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:46,720
Speaker 2: have been up ralph trans vanda dinosaurs. Jam No, it

1272
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 2: wasn't finger banging, that's for sure.

1273
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:50,599
Speaker 3: He can't reach nothing.

1274
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:52,479
Speaker 2: It made its name by terrorizing the earth. At the

1275
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:55,880
Speaker 2: end of the Late Cretaceous period, but the tarannosaurs Rex

1276
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:58,240
Speaker 2: had a sensitive side to research as a found the

1277
01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 2: fearsome carnivore, which the twenty feet tall and ripped its

1278
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:05,000
Speaker 2: praise it's pray. The shreds with daggerlike teeth had a

1279
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 2: snout it's sensitive to touch its human fingertips. T Rex

1280
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:14,120
Speaker 2: and other tyrannosaurs would have used this tactile the tacktile

1281
01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 2: noses to explore the surroundings buildings and carefully pick up

1282
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 2: fragile eggs and baby offspring, but the snout is thought

1283
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:24,960
Speaker 2: to have served another purpose. Experts believe the males and

1284
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 2: females rubbed that sensitive faces together in a prehistoric form

1285
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:37,040
Speaker 2: of four play. Okay, mm hmm. I had no idea

1286
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 2: they used to get down like this. That is used

1287
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:47,800
Speaker 2: to me. They didn't teach us this, and in our

1288
01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:57,040
Speaker 2: history classes, I didn't know about this. In science, Hey girl,

1289
01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:01,800
Speaker 2: why don't you come over here. Let me put this

1290
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:09,000
Speaker 2: little full arm on you. Uh yeah, apparently. Writers in

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01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:12,360
Speaker 2: the journal Scientific Reports the US authors describe how the

1292
01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 2: sensitive skin may have proved crucial to the dinosaurs made

1293
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:21,200
Speaker 2: a success in courtship. Tyranna saurreds might have rubbed that

1294
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:25,519
Speaker 2: sensitive faces together as a vital part of precopulatory prey.

1295
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 2: Play girl, come over here and rub that face on me.

1296
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:41,559
Speaker 2: M let me suck on that tail? Uh, I guess so?

1297
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:43,880
Speaker 2: Or kissing? Maybe that kiss?

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01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:45,479
Speaker 3: Hey, you never know.

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01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 8: So.

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01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:52,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. Apparently the hard service of the snout was penetrated

1301
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:58,599
Speaker 2: by numerous small nerve openness or for a meana, Well,

1302
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:01,599
Speaker 2: I'm sure I'd like to suck on those for amina,

1303
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:02,519
Speaker 2: you know what I mean?

1304
01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:04,559
Speaker 3: A minute, m hm.

1305
01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 2: There would have been allowed. They would have allowed hundreds

1306
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:11,760
Speaker 2: of branches of the tresureminal nerve to reach there. The

1307
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:14,680
Speaker 2: surface of the snout turned the dinosaur face into a

1308
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:18,920
Speaker 2: sensitive third hand. All shit, Now, a little bit of

1309
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:28,200
Speaker 2: a hand job, m hand jimmy. A similar arrangement.

1310
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:29,200
Speaker 3: Let's do a quicket.

1311
01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:32,760
Speaker 2: A similar arrangement seen today in crocod thousand alligators, which

1312
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:38,160
Speaker 2: are thousands of tiny sensitive bumps called into guminary sensory

1313
01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:41,519
Speaker 2: organs around their jaws. In twenty seventeen, scientists that yell

1314
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:43,880
Speaker 2: people at the Museum of Natural History in Connecticut reported

1315
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:46,960
Speaker 2: that the animals rubbed their sensitive bumps on the face

1316
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:51,040
Speaker 2: and by the profusely before mating and found the behaviors

1317
01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:58,400
Speaker 2: frequently resulted in what appeared to be over stimulation, that freaking,

1318
01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:04,679
Speaker 2: freaking dinosaur sex. The laid scientist doctor Thomas Carr from

1319
01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:08,360
Speaker 2: the Carthage College in Wisconsin, a Real Truth Free said,

1320
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:12,800
Speaker 2: given that the four amena are identical in torontosaurs, that

1321
01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:18,080
Speaker 2: indicates that they had super sensitive skin as well. Rub

1322
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:22,080
Speaker 2: your hands all over that skin. The turch of menal

1323
01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:25,360
Speaker 2: nerves plays a special sensory role in many mammals, reptiles,

1324
01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:29,240
Speaker 2: and birds, causing sensory signals from whiskers and electrical receptors

1325
01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:32,360
Speaker 2: and enable them in pit viper to hone in on

1326
01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:38,120
Speaker 2: infrared radiation from warm blooded prey. Crocodile sense touch both

1327
01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:41,479
Speaker 2: touched and vibrations in the water via the trigger moon

1328
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:46,519
Speaker 2: triggerminal nerve, while migrating birds may use it to detect

1329
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:53,840
Speaker 2: magnetic fields. Co author Professor j side Lamar sikh La

1330
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:58,680
Speaker 2: Mayor from Louisiana State University said our finding of a

1331
01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:02,800
Speaker 2: complex sensory web is especially interesting because it's derived from

1332
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 2: the trichy menal nerve, which has an extraordinary evolutionary history

1333
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:12,520
Speaker 2: of developing into wildly different six senses in different vertebrates.

1334
01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 2: More like sex senses. So I'm talking about uh so, yeah,

1335
01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:28,479
Speaker 2: teranno sources used to make sweet sweet sensitive love chopping

1336
01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:32,920
Speaker 2: down them paleold logical cakes. I don't know what.

1337
01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:35,320
Speaker 3: The prehistoric a.

1338
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:40,920
Speaker 2: Chopping down the Mesozoic era cakes.

1339
01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:41,240
Speaker 3: Girl.

1340
01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:50,680
Speaker 2: Oh man, here's something that I just thought it was

1341
01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:53,080
Speaker 2: funny or actually, this might take a while a lot,

1342
01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:57,360
Speaker 2: so let me go to something else first. Online poor

1343
01:14:57,439 --> 01:15:02,479
Speaker 2: industry moves to protect visitors as kin revokes the FCC rule.

1344
01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:08,799
Speaker 2: So basically, porn sites are trying to get more uh secure,

1345
01:15:10,240 --> 01:15:14,759
Speaker 2: but to help people keep their porn viewing private.

1346
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:15,200
Speaker 3: Right.

1347
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:18,640
Speaker 2: I like that, that's the thing everybody's worried about. That's like,

1348
01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:21,400
Speaker 2: you know, we're just a country of fucking hypocrites, all

1349
01:15:21,439 --> 01:15:23,840
Speaker 2: these you know, like Alabama tried to declare porn a

1350
01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:27,439
Speaker 2: national health crisis the same way Utah did, and shit,

1351
01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:30,360
Speaker 2: and like yeah, and then at the same time, people

1352
01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:33,479
Speaker 2: are like, don't don't look at my porn though. I mean,

1353
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 2: you can look through anything on my computer. I don't care.

1354
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:37,800
Speaker 2: It's my financial records, my bank statements. I don't give

1355
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:40,559
Speaker 2: a fuck, but do not look at this porn. That's

1356
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:45,120
Speaker 2: the one thing I could never handle uh, but yeah,

1357
01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:47,920
Speaker 2: and porn Hub stepped up, said, we gotta protect our clients. Man,

1358
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:49,320
Speaker 2: can't be out here letting.

1359
01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:52,280
Speaker 3: Y'all, particularly those people that actually have accounts with them

1360
01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:52,840
Speaker 3: like they.

1361
01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:57,479
Speaker 2: All again and famous people and ship you know, you

1362
01:15:57,560 --> 01:16:01,720
Speaker 2: never know who they're gonna pay for, because you know

1363
01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:03,519
Speaker 2: that's what's gonna happen. I think that's the next step,

1364
01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:06,760
Speaker 2: start hacking. Let me go to the next segment. Guys,

1365
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:08,920
Speaker 2: let's say where one twenty give me one second, be

1366
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:13,560
Speaker 2: right back. Uh, don't touch that down. It's got to renaissance,

1367
01:16:13,720 --> 01:16:48,920
Speaker 2: jam on it. Well I bet you do. Mm hmm,

1368
01:16:49,479 --> 01:16:54,880
Speaker 2: girassless chaps part Oh lord, m hmm. All right, I

1369
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:57,760
Speaker 2: just invited you back. Make sure you meet that mic

1370
01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:03,479
Speaker 2: because you know, yeah, that's out here. Go there you go.

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01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:04,240
Speaker 2: I heard it.

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01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 4: I mean, but you got I'm not cooking enough, y'all.

1373
01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:13,679
Speaker 4: I'm not cooking up and see. And this is why

1374
01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:16,679
Speaker 4: people have a problems with Kendrick. It's a black man telling.

1375
01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:21,440
Speaker 3: A black woman her body. Besides, yes, besides.

1376
01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:27,160
Speaker 2: All right, here we go. This is why I wanted

1377
01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:32,600
Speaker 2: to show you. This is Erica Ash explaining the exquisite

1378
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:35,280
Speaker 2: versatility of the word bitch. I thought this was so

1379
01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:36,799
Speaker 2: fucking funny.

1380
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:40,559
Speaker 1: To most people it's just a bad word. It's actually

1381
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:43,400
Speaker 1: one of the most communicative words in the English language.

1382
01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:47,639
Speaker 1: You can say bitch and it means huh, bitch. Say

1383
01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:50,080
Speaker 1: bitch and it means don't even try it.

1384
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:51,160
Speaker 3: Bitch.

1385
01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:54,960
Speaker 1: The word could mean wait until you see what I've

1386
01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:55,840
Speaker 1: got up my sleeve.

1387
01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:57,280
Speaker 2: Bitch.

1388
01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:00,320
Speaker 1: You can use the word to let people know that

1389
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:11,320
Speaker 1: you're happy, bitch, sad, bitch, afraid, bitch, to let people

1390
01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:13,200
Speaker 1: know that you are at your wits end.

1391
01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:14,200
Speaker 3: Bitch.

1392
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:17,960
Speaker 1: You can use the word to mean I'm really angry.

1393
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:19,160
Speaker 3: Bitch.

1394
01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:22,120
Speaker 1: You can use the word to say I have some

1395
01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:24,559
Speaker 1: really really important information to share with you.

1396
01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:26,120
Speaker 3: Bitch.

1397
01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:28,360
Speaker 2: You can say bitch and.

1398
01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:33,400
Speaker 1: It means that was funny, Bitch, I'm try using bitch

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01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:34,799
Speaker 1: today in your office.

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01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:35,400
Speaker 3: I'm kidding.

1401
01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 2: Don't do that. Yeah, I just thought that was cute.

1402
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:44,639
Speaker 3: Those That's the same way I use nigga.

1403
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:47,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep. Basically that's the first thing I thought, was.

1404
01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:51,200
Speaker 3: Like, that's how I say right, because because sometimes that

1405
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:54,160
Speaker 3: one word depends on how you use your inflection, could

1406
01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:59,160
Speaker 3: mean a variation of different things, and it's understood even

1407
01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:02,080
Speaker 3: people don't even say the word nigga go. I understand.

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01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:07,679
Speaker 2: A bridge collapse in Atlanta freeway fire during rush hour.

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01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:10,600
Speaker 2: I think they've now arrested a man that is a

1410
01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:13,919
Speaker 2: transient man. They said he started this fire that collapsed

1411
01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:16,040
Speaker 2: this freeway, right, And the thing.

1412
01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:19,160
Speaker 3: Is, he's go out some billions of dollars and they

1413
01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:22,519
Speaker 3: actually had to close the section fucking indefinitely. And for

1414
01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:25,080
Speaker 3: those of you down there, they have to deal with

1415
01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:30,640
Speaker 3: that goddamn traffic every day. I can't even imagine the commute.

1416
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:33,840
Speaker 3: Of course, some people, that's probably the quickest way to

1417
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:36,160
Speaker 3: and from work. So now you have to think of

1418
01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:39,120
Speaker 3: alternate routes. And everybody's gonna be taking these alternate routes.

1419
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:42,120
Speaker 3: So now i'm you know, instead of the hour I

1420
01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:43,920
Speaker 3: was getting up, now I got to get up to

1421
01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:47,960
Speaker 3: and three hours early because motherfucker, you won't do this. Yeah.

1422
01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:50,439
Speaker 2: And that's and this is in Atlanta too, So it's traffic.

1423
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:53,360
Speaker 3: It's just back you be driving Out'll be like, goddamn,

1424
01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:56,320
Speaker 3: it's an accident. Nah nah, just this this this is

1425
01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:57,439
Speaker 3: what we do. We just see it.

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01:19:58,120 --> 01:20:02,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, But I'll tell you what it reminded me of.

1427
01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:07,000
Speaker 2: It reminded me of the highway bill that Obama tried

1428
01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:09,760
Speaker 2: to pass where originally I think he even proposed like

1429
01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:14,760
Speaker 2: a trillion dollars and the Republicans fought him on it

1430
01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:17,879
Speaker 2: because they were like, these roads aren't necessarily up the standard.

1431
01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:21,479
Speaker 2: And I think the Highway Commission even said it would

1432
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:23,920
Speaker 2: take like two billion dollars to fix everything they need

1433
01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:27,880
Speaker 2: to be fixed, and they whittled him down to where

1434
01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:32,200
Speaker 2: I think he proposed basically four hundred and eighty eighty

1435
01:20:32,240 --> 01:20:34,840
Speaker 2: four Maybe I don't know why I remember that exact number,

1436
01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:37,160
Speaker 2: but four hundred and eighty four billion or something like that,

1437
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:38,880
Speaker 2: and they whittled it down to like three hundred and

1438
01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:42,960
Speaker 2: seven billion. Now all this is say and then most

1439
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:48,360
Speaker 2: of that that, you know, like all that to say this,

1440
01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:51,440
Speaker 2: I'm not saying they would have prevented this bridge catastrophe necessarily.

1441
01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:54,439
Speaker 2: It just reminded me of how shitty our roads are

1442
01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:57,160
Speaker 2: they are as far as and how much we rely

1443
01:20:57,240 --> 01:21:00,880
Speaker 2: on them and how much we use them. And the

1444
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:03,639
Speaker 2: only reason they follow him is because a black president

1445
01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:07,719
Speaker 2: said we need to do this. If President Trump would

1446
01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:11,160
Speaker 2: have said, uh, I need a billion dollars or trillion

1447
01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:15,160
Speaker 2: dollars even to fix all this shit, they'd approve it.

1448
01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:19,240
Speaker 2: It's the hypocrisy that bothers me because you know, like

1449
01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:21,559
Speaker 2: I said when I when I first saw this, you

1450
01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:23,800
Speaker 2: didn't know what the cause was or anything. You saw

1451
01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:26,240
Speaker 2: a fucking bridge collapse and you didn't know if anybody

1452
01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:28,720
Speaker 2: was dead. You saw a big ass fire and all

1453
01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:30,840
Speaker 2: you know, and all kinds of shit runs through your mind.

1454
01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:34,000
Speaker 2: But my first thing was, like the money it costs

1455
01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:37,719
Speaker 2: to even repair some shit like that, Like the money

1456
01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:40,920
Speaker 2: it costs to you know, to just to keep ship

1457
01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:44,960
Speaker 2: running the way people expected to run, like we really

1458
01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:50,240
Speaker 2: are on some last money, last legs and last we

1459
01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:52,160
Speaker 2: would wait till the last second to even try to

1460
01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:53,320
Speaker 2: fix these things.

1461
01:21:53,080 --> 01:21:55,320
Speaker 3: And by that time you've had collapses.

1462
01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:57,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, bridge is gonna collapse with some shiit people gonna

1463
01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:01,840
Speaker 2: end up dying. But a right, let's see what else

1464
01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:05,200
Speaker 2: we're gonna talk about here today. Let me do some

1465
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:09,920
Speaker 2: fucking with black people. Get my fucking with Black people

1466
01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:17,439
Speaker 2: music out, because it's a lot. That's okay. People we

1467
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:20,360
Speaker 2: have been fucked with. It's time to fight back.

1468
01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:33,080
Speaker 5: We're just fucking with those black people. We're just fucking

1469
01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:37,719
Speaker 5: with those blacks. We're just fucking with fucking with black people.

1470
01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:40,040
Speaker 5: That's right, guys, It's time to play the game that

1471
01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:42,519
Speaker 5: we all hate to play. It's fucking with black people.

1472
01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:44,400
Speaker 5: The game we go all around.

1473
01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:48,240
Speaker 2: The globe that we find different people stories that make

1474
01:22:48,320 --> 01:22:52,320
Speaker 2: us feel fucking with the black people. Today's contestants. Everybody,

1475
01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:57,400
Speaker 2: all right, let's get the fucking with it. Uh teams.

1476
01:22:57,720 --> 01:23:01,840
Speaker 2: These teams win for the most. It is this offensive promposal.

1477
01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:06,000
Speaker 2: And it's not even April, yep, it's prom season, so

1478
01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:08,280
Speaker 2: you know, we get those promposals, which one of the

1479
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:13,599
Speaker 2: things I hate about the internet now is that one.

1480
01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:17,240
Speaker 2: I always think these are stupid and whether I saw

1481
01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:20,080
Speaker 2: him or not, it would be stupid in private, but

1482
01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:23,040
Speaker 2: it's even more stupid in public. But like fathers that

1483
01:23:23,160 --> 01:23:25,800
Speaker 2: hold shotguns next to their daughter and the guy taking

1484
01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:29,240
Speaker 2: it to the proms make the people that make racial

1485
01:23:29,320 --> 01:23:32,519
Speaker 2: jokes about asking people to the prom or they try

1486
01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:35,479
Speaker 2: to turn it into like some sort of gag, and

1487
01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:38,080
Speaker 2: a lot of times it's like highly fucked up and offensive.

1488
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:47,559
Speaker 2: Well here's one apparently these two white girls invited this

1489
01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 2: black girl to the prom and the picture said you

1490
01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:52,680
Speaker 2: may be picking cotton, but we're picking you to go

1491
01:23:52,760 --> 01:24:00,880
Speaker 2: to prom with us. They thought it was okay, mm hmm,

1492
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:04,120
Speaker 2: now to pick. The Instagram post has since been deleted.

1493
01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:07,439
Speaker 2: Uh and the caption underneath had read she said yes.

1494
01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:12,479
Speaker 2: Turns out the teens who made the signs are currently

1495
01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:15,599
Speaker 2: students at Monarch High School in Coconut Creek, Florida.

1496
01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:17,280
Speaker 3: People will find it. Find you out.

1497
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:20,840
Speaker 2: You know who you are, y'all who confirmed? John R. Ro,

1498
01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:24,400
Speaker 2: a alumni the school, spoted to pick on Instagram, shared

1499
01:24:24,439 --> 01:24:27,839
Speaker 2: it on Twitter. It's two thousand and fucking seventeen, he wrote.

1500
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:30,400
Speaker 2: His tweeters has been retweeted more than eight thousand times

1501
01:24:30,479 --> 01:24:34,720
Speaker 2: and people are sharing that hard fire reaction reactions to it.

1502
01:24:35,960 --> 01:24:39,559
Speaker 2: This is a bunch of gifts and ship. A lot

1503
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:42,160
Speaker 2: of reactions are referencing the movie Get Out, which everyone

1504
01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:45,360
Speaker 2: should go see immediately. According to this. Uh some e

1505
01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:51,360
Speaker 2: cars hint, but yeah, it's kind of weird to me though.

1506
01:24:52,439 --> 01:24:54,120
Speaker 2: So I think the girls end up getting suspended. I

1507
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:56,120
Speaker 2: think I saw that right before we went on the air.

1508
01:24:58,640 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 3: And only because of school. Don't the problems if it

1509
01:25:01,439 --> 01:25:04,639
Speaker 3: was something that hadn't been went viral. I'm not trying funny,

1510
01:25:04,680 --> 01:25:05,559
Speaker 3: it wouldn't have been the problem.

1511
01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:10,559
Speaker 2: Well, I also saw people kind of turning on the

1512
01:25:10,640 --> 01:25:14,960
Speaker 2: black girl. But honestly, man, you just don't know. You

1513
01:25:15,160 --> 01:25:17,599
Speaker 2: just don't know, like what people are going through.

1514
01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:20,759
Speaker 3: You don't know what may have happened.

1515
01:25:21,240 --> 01:25:23,160
Speaker 2: You know, that might be the kind of thing where

1516
01:25:23,160 --> 01:25:25,880
Speaker 2: you don't even get mad about it till later. Because

1517
01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:29,720
Speaker 2: she's those might be her real friends. You wouldn't think

1518
01:25:29,720 --> 01:25:31,840
Speaker 2: they would do some bullshit like that, and now it's

1519
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:35,960
Speaker 2: like a joke. Yeah, I mean, yeah, who knows. I

1520
01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:38,040
Speaker 2: mean I would hope, like I said, yeah, it could

1521
01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:39,880
Speaker 2: just be that too, but I hope it's not that

1522
01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:42,479
Speaker 2: she was in on it. Some people were trying to

1523
01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:47,880
Speaker 2: say that, uh, well that black girl comes from inheritance

1524
01:25:47,960 --> 01:25:50,920
Speaker 2: of a farm where they do cotton or something. I'm like,

1525
01:25:51,160 --> 01:25:54,559
Speaker 2: that wouldn't even That just means they use that to

1526
01:25:54,640 --> 01:25:57,880
Speaker 2: make the racist joke. That just makes it worse. They

1527
01:25:57,880 --> 01:25:59,640
Speaker 2: didn't make it better. That means they knew they had

1528
01:25:59,640 --> 01:26:02,920
Speaker 2: proble denability with their joke just to cover their ass.

1529
01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:05,240
Speaker 2: It's fucked up, man, anyway. Zero two, one hundred.

1530
01:26:06,040 --> 01:26:10,040
Speaker 3: Oh, that whole situation is one hundred Glad they got

1531
01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:13,040
Speaker 3: suspended because you'll think twice before you do some fuck

1532
01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:16,680
Speaker 3: shit like that and not funny. The school had this

1533
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:19,760
Speaker 3: to an example, don't do this bullshit. Just acts like

1534
01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:21,120
Speaker 3: normal people ask each other.

1535
01:26:21,880 --> 01:26:27,920
Speaker 2: Right, So it's fucked up, man, that's just man, it's

1536
01:26:27,920 --> 01:26:28,800
Speaker 2: fucked up a right.

1537
01:26:28,720 --> 01:26:31,559
Speaker 3: Because the teenagers. So who knows how it went down

1538
01:26:31,640 --> 01:26:33,400
Speaker 3: and what happened and shit like that.

1539
01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:37,679
Speaker 2: Right. A protest broke out after some high school students

1540
01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:40,679
Speaker 2: were found running a racist body shaving Instagram page about

1541
01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:44,639
Speaker 2: their fellow students. The San Francisco Gate reports that students

1542
01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:47,479
Speaker 2: at Albany High School in Albany, California started their Instagram

1543
01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:50,560
Speaker 2: account with crewel posts about their classmates, including pictures of

1544
01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:52,400
Speaker 2: a black doll, a member of the Clue Clubs clan,

1545
01:26:52,479 --> 01:26:55,240
Speaker 2: and the Torch. Some of the students were also involved

1546
01:26:55,280 --> 01:26:58,599
Speaker 2: making Nazi salutes and anti Semitic gestures in an incident

1547
01:26:58,760 --> 01:27:02,040
Speaker 2: earlier this March. The students were suspended, but many believe

1548
01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:05,720
Speaker 2: they were not punished enough for their heads for post. Yeah.

1549
01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:10,160
Speaker 2: Here's the thing. Everybody's always like, the generations of the future,

1550
01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:13,080
Speaker 2: it's gonna save us. It's the kids that are They're

1551
01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:16,559
Speaker 2: not growing up like we did, Are they not? Are

1552
01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:16,920
Speaker 2: they not?

1553
01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:19,360
Speaker 3: Because it never dies because it was from generation to

1554
01:27:19,479 --> 01:27:22,880
Speaker 3: generation to generation. Dogs they learned from somewhere.

1555
01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:25,559
Speaker 2: In response hundreds of other students at the school stage

1556
01:27:25,600 --> 01:27:28,680
Speaker 2: they sit in on Thursday to protect the return of

1557
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:32,000
Speaker 2: the offending students, I mean to protest the return of

1558
01:27:32,040 --> 01:27:35,439
Speaker 2: the offending students. During the three hour protest, uh, the

1559
01:27:35,479 --> 01:27:37,519
Speaker 2: students held posters they were at black is beautiful, we

1560
01:27:37,560 --> 01:27:40,880
Speaker 2: won't stand for racism, stuff like that. The school. Uh

1561
01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:42,800
Speaker 2: school had to be canceled for the rest of the

1562
01:27:42,840 --> 01:27:44,599
Speaker 2: day because so many students joined the rally.

1563
01:27:45,960 --> 01:27:47,880
Speaker 3: Because that's fucked up what they did.

1564
01:27:48,200 --> 01:27:49,880
Speaker 2: Shout out to the students that came in late that

1565
01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:52,080
Speaker 2: just wanted to like not go to class though, I

1566
01:27:52,160 --> 01:27:56,200
Speaker 2: see y'all right, like all going to protest racism.

1567
01:27:56,720 --> 01:27:59,160
Speaker 3: Oh we get to go home runing. Okay, cool, cool, cool?

1568
01:27:59,160 --> 01:28:02,280
Speaker 3: They weren't taking a ten, all right, great, Hell.

1569
01:28:02,200 --> 01:28:06,400
Speaker 2: No, we won't go to class. Parents of some of

1570
01:28:06,439 --> 01:28:09,120
Speaker 2: the students target about their Instagram account express frustration about

1571
01:28:09,120 --> 01:28:12,400
Speaker 2: the incident. Alexander Campbell told ABC seven that she wasn't

1572
01:28:12,400 --> 01:28:14,439
Speaker 2: sure how to deal with the situation, given that the

1573
01:28:14,479 --> 01:28:16,519
Speaker 2: parents of the suspended students hadn't shown up to talk

1574
01:28:16,520 --> 01:28:20,679
Speaker 2: to the community. Yeah, this is why. And I hate

1575
01:28:20,680 --> 01:28:22,760
Speaker 2: go back to some old shit, but I remember when

1576
01:28:22,760 --> 01:28:24,680
Speaker 2: we went on the interracial John and we you know,

1577
01:28:24,720 --> 01:28:27,680
Speaker 2: they do theirty thing, which is amazing. And then of

1578
01:28:27,720 --> 01:28:30,639
Speaker 2: course Leslie and Drew are very tough. They are very

1579
01:28:30,680 --> 01:28:33,400
Speaker 2: tough on these on these folks. But this is why

1580
01:28:33,479 --> 01:28:36,680
Speaker 2: I said I had to give the parents of that

1581
01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:39,720
Speaker 2: one kid props. The ones who wrote that letter. They

1582
01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:42,360
Speaker 2: were accountable to the town. They talked about what ORGANIZATIONSY

1583
01:28:42,479 --> 01:28:45,040
Speaker 2: was gonna join. I do want to progress support. But

1584
01:28:45,080 --> 01:28:49,400
Speaker 2: the fact that like there was a action plan, there

1585
01:28:49,520 --> 01:28:55,280
Speaker 2: was sincere apologies there were zero, right, Like it felt

1586
01:28:55,400 --> 01:28:58,200
Speaker 2: like they gave a fuck. Like in this case, these

1587
01:28:58,200 --> 01:29:01,479
Speaker 2: white people probably just they're scared everyone's their kids or

1588
01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:02,240
Speaker 2: whatever they kids.

1589
01:29:02,280 --> 01:29:05,280
Speaker 3: You're sitting at home, they ain't talking to nobody, and

1590
01:29:05,320 --> 01:29:07,040
Speaker 3: as soon as it's quote unquote over, some of them

1591
01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:09,679
Speaker 3: may have even transferred schools because they don't want them problems.

1592
01:29:09,680 --> 01:29:12,439
Speaker 3: Some of these children might ever come back. You know,

1593
01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:15,200
Speaker 3: shit like that where it's like, oh, because a lot

1594
01:29:15,200 --> 01:29:17,880
Speaker 3: of it is the parents are shielding a lot of

1595
01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:20,800
Speaker 3: these parents are shooting their children from responsibility. And a

1596
01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:23,000
Speaker 3: lot of these parents probably believed the bullshit that was

1597
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:27,559
Speaker 3: out there or bullshit, the racist stuff. But the parents

1598
01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:29,120
Speaker 3: may believe this shit.

1599
01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:33,639
Speaker 2: Yeah. My thing is, my general belief is they probably

1600
01:29:33,640 --> 01:29:36,320
Speaker 2: don't know, you know what I mean, They probably don't

1601
01:29:36,360 --> 01:29:38,320
Speaker 2: know because kids do all kinds of shit behind their

1602
01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:41,559
Speaker 2: parents back on the internet. Your parents don't be necessarily

1603
01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:44,720
Speaker 2: on people's Instagram and shit like that. The thing is,

1604
01:29:44,840 --> 01:29:49,000
Speaker 2: once you do know, then what right, what happens after

1605
01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:51,960
Speaker 2: that is you duck your head. You don't come to

1606
01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:55,000
Speaker 2: the four hour meeting, you don't talk about your kids,

1607
01:29:55,000 --> 01:29:58,160
Speaker 2: you don't release the statement, you don't say anything. So

1608
01:29:58,200 --> 01:30:00,840
Speaker 2: I'm left to believe you don't don't really give a fuck.

1609
01:30:01,320 --> 01:30:02,639
Speaker 2: It's the only thing left to believe.

1610
01:30:03,280 --> 01:30:03,599
Speaker 3: To believe.

1611
01:30:05,040 --> 01:30:06,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, as far as I'm concerned, you might as rote

1612
01:30:06,800 --> 01:30:09,760
Speaker 2: it yourself after you don't come out publicly and be

1613
01:30:09,840 --> 01:30:12,000
Speaker 2: like no, no, no, no, no, my kid won't be doing

1614
01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:16,679
Speaker 2: this shit again, you know, apologize, uh, and let's figure

1615
01:30:16,720 --> 01:30:19,160
Speaker 2: out something that you can do to make some sort

1616
01:30:19,160 --> 01:30:23,320
Speaker 2: of restitution because this was horrible. Instead, it's let's just

1617
01:30:23,360 --> 01:30:26,679
Speaker 2: wait till this pass is over. But yeah, their parents

1618
01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:28,240
Speaker 2: have not come to the board meeting, which is four

1619
01:30:28,280 --> 01:30:30,679
Speaker 2: hours of public comment of people in Albany sharing experiences

1620
01:30:30,680 --> 01:30:33,000
Speaker 2: about racism that are very similar to this and the

1621
01:30:33,040 --> 01:30:35,839
Speaker 2: pattern of the district in the Albany Police Department sweeping

1622
01:30:35,880 --> 01:30:38,880
Speaker 2: these incidents under the rug. Do we need to find

1623
01:30:38,920 --> 01:30:41,120
Speaker 2: one of our children hanging from these trees for people

1624
01:30:41,160 --> 01:30:44,120
Speaker 2: to take this seriously? This is not a joke. Yeah. Also,

1625
01:30:44,400 --> 01:30:47,400
Speaker 2: this is a very quote unquote liberal California town. So

1626
01:30:47,439 --> 01:30:50,120
Speaker 2: it's also that thing where it's like, but but these

1627
01:30:50,120 --> 01:30:53,200
Speaker 2: are the good white people, you know, like, yeah, well,

1628
01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:56,519
Speaker 2: apparently the good white people will have a racist ass

1629
01:30:56,720 --> 01:31:02,640
Speaker 2: Instagram page. So yep, zero two hundred, Yeah, I give

1630
01:31:02,680 --> 01:31:08,439
Speaker 2: one hundred. It's terrible these kids these days. A New

1631
01:31:08,520 --> 01:31:12,280
Speaker 2: York Police Department cop got in trouble for tweeting black

1632
01:31:12,280 --> 01:31:13,160
Speaker 2: Lives Matter.

1633
01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:16,360
Speaker 3: Sounds about right.

1634
01:31:17,080 --> 01:31:21,200
Speaker 2: Here's my thing. If you can't work for the police

1635
01:31:21,240 --> 01:31:25,160
Speaker 2: department and believe black lives matter, then what does that

1636
01:31:25,200 --> 01:31:30,439
Speaker 2: say about the police department. Why are those two things

1637
01:31:30,479 --> 01:31:37,000
Speaker 2: diametrically opposed? Black Lives Matter simply says a police should

1638
01:31:37,040 --> 01:31:40,040
Speaker 2: do a better job when confronting black people. It shouldn't,

1639
01:31:40,160 --> 01:31:42,120
Speaker 2: you know, shouldn't have to all of them, should just

1640
01:31:42,200 --> 01:31:44,720
Speaker 2: end up dead because there was a because because the

1641
01:31:44,800 --> 01:31:49,320
Speaker 2: shot cop showed up. Why the fuck would that not

1642
01:31:49,400 --> 01:31:53,000
Speaker 2: be allowed to be on the force if y'all were

1643
01:31:53,880 --> 01:31:55,920
Speaker 2: not racist and didn't have a problem with black people.

1644
01:31:56,560 --> 01:32:03,360
Speaker 2: I don't understand. I don't understand. I think it almost

1645
01:32:03,400 --> 01:32:05,680
Speaker 2: says something about what they must mean when they say

1646
01:32:05,720 --> 01:32:06,519
Speaker 2: blue lives matter.

1647
01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:09,719
Speaker 3: Right, they ain't talking about you niggas.

1648
01:32:10,040 --> 01:32:12,320
Speaker 2: It just kind of makes you wonder what do they

1649
01:32:12,360 --> 01:32:15,519
Speaker 2: mean when they say blue lives matter? Because black lives

1650
01:32:15,560 --> 01:32:19,800
Speaker 2: matter isn't an attack, but blue lives matter. If you

1651
01:32:19,800 --> 01:32:23,120
Speaker 2: guys stink putting that lives matter behind something is an

1652
01:32:23,160 --> 01:32:26,880
Speaker 2: attack on people, then what does that mean? What do

1653
01:32:26,720 --> 01:32:27,120
Speaker 2: you you know?

1654
01:32:27,439 --> 01:32:30,040
Speaker 3: Because the thing is when you say blue lives matter,

1655
01:32:30,720 --> 01:32:34,519
Speaker 3: Black lives only matter in the blue lives if they're blue,

1656
01:32:35,439 --> 01:32:38,360
Speaker 3: and only if we're not, only if we don't have

1657
01:32:38,400 --> 01:32:40,679
Speaker 3: to put them out for an example.

1658
01:32:41,680 --> 01:32:45,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yeah at that point that blue lives

1659
01:32:45,400 --> 01:32:47,280
Speaker 2: are not black lives as far as people are concerned.

1660
01:32:47,640 --> 01:32:49,479
Speaker 3: Like I said, unless we got set up an example

1661
01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:51,240
Speaker 3: and then we'll separate ourselves, right.

1662
01:32:51,720 --> 01:32:54,200
Speaker 2: Police officer Gwyndollne Bishop, who was black, was hit with

1663
01:32:54,240 --> 01:32:57,120
Speaker 2: the departmental charges for inappropriately writing on the seventy six

1664
01:32:57,520 --> 01:33:01,240
Speaker 2: precent Twitter page when she replied to a February seventeen,

1665
01:33:01,320 --> 01:33:04,640
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen posts about a gun arrest in her precinct

1666
01:33:04,640 --> 01:33:07,880
Speaker 2: by a NYPD Special Ots team sad day for the

1667
01:33:07,880 --> 01:33:11,559
Speaker 2: seventy six precinct hashtag black lives matter, she wrote. Bischer

1668
01:33:11,600 --> 01:33:15,120
Speaker 2: posted the remarks under her personal Twitter handle duck Lips

1669
01:33:15,160 --> 01:33:21,479
Speaker 2: and dizz dimples Yeah. I mean if you didn't know

1670
01:33:21,560 --> 01:33:25,760
Speaker 2: she was black before either, while the initial tweet, oh yeah,

1671
01:33:25,760 --> 01:33:28,880
Speaker 2: and dimples spelled with two z's, so you know, very black.

1672
01:33:29,640 --> 01:33:32,080
Speaker 2: While the initial tweet remains, the replies have been taken down,

1673
01:33:32,200 --> 01:33:34,559
Speaker 2: as has Bitcher's Twitter account. The four and a half

1674
01:33:34,640 --> 01:33:37,000
Speaker 2: year veteran told her superiors that she didn't remember replying

1675
01:33:37,000 --> 01:33:39,639
Speaker 2: to the post, that she rarely uses Twitter. When pressed

1676
01:33:39,640 --> 01:33:42,439
Speaker 2: at her departmental trial to say, she said she meant

1677
01:33:42,439 --> 01:33:44,559
Speaker 2: the right blue Lives matter, and claimed her phone out

1678
01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:48,000
Speaker 2: of correct for the miss out. That's sad that that's

1679
01:33:48,040 --> 01:33:52,599
Speaker 2: how she had to respond, because I mean, essentially, you

1680
01:33:52,640 --> 01:33:54,120
Speaker 2: are at work and they're gonna try to get you

1681
01:33:54,200 --> 01:33:55,920
Speaker 2: up out of there, and you got bills and shit,

1682
01:33:56,160 --> 01:33:57,479
Speaker 2: so now you gotta come up there and be like,

1683
01:33:57,560 --> 01:34:00,960
Speaker 2: I meant blue lives matter. She said what she meant

1684
01:34:00,960 --> 01:34:03,599
Speaker 2: in my pen, it wouldn't even make sense to say

1685
01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:06,120
Speaker 2: blue lives matter in that arrest. It doesn't matter. I

1686
01:34:06,200 --> 01:34:08,160
Speaker 2: mean unless somebody got killed or something did a cop

1687
01:34:08,160 --> 01:34:11,080
Speaker 2: gets shot. She posted a comment three times using blue

1688
01:34:11,160 --> 01:34:14,160
Speaker 2: lives matter, and two of them her attorney said. Bishop

1689
01:34:14,200 --> 01:34:16,160
Speaker 2: said she was not directly responding to the gun arrest.

1690
01:34:16,200 --> 01:34:19,040
Speaker 2: I vaguely remember the tweet, she told Commissioner David Wisel

1691
01:34:19,400 --> 01:34:21,280
Speaker 2: if I had to guess, there were a lot of

1692
01:34:21,360 --> 01:34:24,479
Speaker 2: changes in my PRECIN about shifts being switched, but I

1693
01:34:24,479 --> 01:34:27,000
Speaker 2: had nothing to do about this gun arrest. The tweets

1694
01:34:27,000 --> 01:34:30,599
Speaker 2: she responded to simply read hashtag seventy six Precinct Special

1695
01:34:30,600 --> 01:34:32,760
Speaker 2: Ops team makes an arrest and recovers a loaded nine

1696
01:34:32,800 --> 01:34:38,519
Speaker 2: millimeter handgun hashtag one less gun. Tennant said Bishop did

1697
01:34:38,560 --> 01:34:41,400
Speaker 2: not violate any of the NYPD social media rules because

1698
01:34:41,439 --> 01:34:44,160
Speaker 2: she didn't access the count. Her replies were from a

1699
01:34:44,160 --> 01:34:47,200
Speaker 2: private Twitter count. He said she could reply to a

1700
01:34:47,240 --> 01:34:49,760
Speaker 2: tweet just as the five hundred million others who you

1701
01:34:50,080 --> 01:34:54,880
Speaker 2: use Twitter can. He said, the NYPD has strict guidelines

1702
01:34:54,880 --> 01:34:56,960
Speaker 2: about who can post to a precin's official page, as

1703
01:34:56,960 --> 01:34:59,080
Speaker 2: well as the contents of the post. Her private Twitter

1704
01:34:59,120 --> 01:35:00,760
Speaker 2: account did not identify I heard as a cop in

1705
01:35:00,800 --> 01:35:04,280
Speaker 2: any way tennants, said Lieutenant Stephen Riels, the seventy six

1706
01:35:04,280 --> 01:35:07,719
Speaker 2: Precincts Integrity Control officer, said that a picture on bishops

1707
01:35:07,760 --> 01:35:10,360
Speaker 2: now defunct Twitter page was the same as her Facebook page,

1708
01:35:10,479 --> 01:35:13,280
Speaker 2: which she identified herself as a cop who patrols Red Hook.

1709
01:35:13,520 --> 01:35:16,000
Speaker 2: The seventy six precinct covers Red Hook as well as

1710
01:35:16,040 --> 01:35:19,559
Speaker 2: Carroll Gardens and Cobble Hill. The Twitter account also goes

1711
01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:23,160
Speaker 2: to a Veronica bishop who is the cos middle name,

1712
01:35:23,320 --> 01:35:28,759
Speaker 2: which is the cosmedal name department has are also accused

1713
01:35:28,760 --> 01:35:31,960
Speaker 2: Bishop of Mouth and off the superiors and for violating

1714
01:35:31,960 --> 01:35:34,639
Speaker 2: departmental rules such as taking a break without informing the superior,

1715
01:35:34,680 --> 01:35:37,439
Speaker 2: going over super advisor's head to get approved of time off,

1716
01:35:37,760 --> 01:35:40,960
Speaker 2: and conducting vertical patrols on her own right, Could they're.

1717
01:35:40,800 --> 01:35:46,080
Speaker 3: Trying to find you, so they just calling for me anything.

1718
01:35:46,280 --> 01:35:48,559
Speaker 2: If found guilty of all violations, she could lose up

1719
01:35:48,560 --> 01:35:51,000
Speaker 2: to thirty vacation days and be put on a year probation.

1720
01:35:52,920 --> 01:35:53,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1721
01:35:53,280 --> 01:35:56,400
Speaker 2: It's interesting, like because on the one hand, if she

1722
01:35:56,479 --> 01:36:00,360
Speaker 2: meant to put blue lives matter, I literally don't give

1723
01:36:00,400 --> 01:36:04,240
Speaker 2: a fuck. Then like, up, you got caught out here

1724
01:36:04,320 --> 01:36:06,760
Speaker 2: trying to trying to stump for the police. And you

1725
01:36:06,800 --> 01:36:09,960
Speaker 2: got caught fucking up and now nothing proves Black lives

1726
01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:13,400
Speaker 2: matter is right more than your ass getting suspended for

1727
01:36:13,640 --> 01:36:17,559
Speaker 2: accidentally putting black lives matter and then because he said

1728
01:36:17,600 --> 01:36:20,960
Speaker 2: they was, she responded three times, uh something like that,

1729
01:36:21,240 --> 01:36:23,600
Speaker 2: Like I want to know what happened in was it

1730
01:36:23,640 --> 01:36:25,680
Speaker 2: blue lives matter? Blue lives matter and then Black lives

1731
01:36:25,720 --> 01:36:27,599
Speaker 2: matter and they went crazy? Or did two of them

1732
01:36:27,640 --> 01:36:31,600
Speaker 2: not post? What was the deal? But yeah, if she

1733
01:36:32,040 --> 01:36:34,519
Speaker 2: gets that, that's that says a lot that you can't

1734
01:36:34,560 --> 01:36:37,320
Speaker 2: do that without going to trial. There's people that have

1735
01:36:37,400 --> 01:36:40,400
Speaker 2: done way worse ship in police uniforms that will never

1736
01:36:40,479 --> 01:36:44,200
Speaker 2: be called to the carpet, never won't day in jail.

1737
01:36:44,760 --> 01:36:46,840
Speaker 2: Well care zero one hundred.

1738
01:36:49,880 --> 01:36:52,080
Speaker 3: I'm say twenty five until I found out more.

1739
01:36:52,720 --> 01:36:55,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like fifty right now because I need

1740
01:36:55,760 --> 01:36:58,880
Speaker 2: to know how it depends on if you believe her,

1741
01:36:59,240 --> 01:37:01,400
Speaker 2: If you believe she really went to put blue lives matter,

1742
01:37:01,439 --> 01:37:05,479
Speaker 2: that I'm zero fucked with by h to be honest,

1743
01:37:06,280 --> 01:37:09,559
Speaker 2: like that's what you get playing in that fucking racial

1744
01:37:09,680 --> 01:37:13,840
Speaker 2: white supremacy shit, trying to get trying to get some applause.

1745
01:37:14,600 --> 01:37:17,040
Speaker 2: But if but if she really did type black lives

1746
01:37:17,040 --> 01:37:19,519
Speaker 2: matter had to walk it back. She was scared. Then.

1747
01:37:19,560 --> 01:37:24,040
Speaker 2: I do feel bad for her, but I don't know.

1748
01:37:24,080 --> 01:37:25,800
Speaker 2: The more I think about it, she probably did mean

1749
01:37:25,880 --> 01:37:28,120
Speaker 2: to put blue lives matter, the more I think about it.

1750
01:37:29,880 --> 01:37:32,800
Speaker 2: White women told to stop the cultural appropriation of wearing

1751
01:37:32,800 --> 01:37:35,559
Speaker 2: hoop ear rings because they are the results of oppression

1752
01:37:35,560 --> 01:37:40,760
Speaker 2: and exclusion of people of color. White women accused of

1753
01:37:40,760 --> 01:37:43,360
Speaker 2: cultural appropriation. I've been told to scrap their hoop earrings

1754
01:37:43,400 --> 01:37:46,360
Speaker 2: after a group of Latino college students complaining that black

1755
01:37:46,400 --> 01:37:49,400
Speaker 2: and brown folks have been exploited by a group of

1756
01:37:49,400 --> 01:37:52,240
Speaker 2: students identifying themselves as women of color wrote white girl,

1757
01:37:52,280 --> 01:37:55,479
Speaker 2: take off your hoops on a free wall used for

1758
01:37:55,720 --> 01:37:59,960
Speaker 2: unmoderated free speech at Pittsburg College in Los Angeles, California.

1759
01:38:02,280 --> 01:38:04,360
Speaker 2: After one of the students was confused by the message,

1760
01:38:04,400 --> 01:38:10,559
Speaker 2: Allegro Martinez, Jacqueline Aguilera, and San Stefania Gallo Gonzales addressed

1761
01:38:10,600 --> 01:38:14,280
Speaker 2: the school and emails explaining the artwork. Martinez wrote, the

1762
01:38:14,320 --> 01:38:17,880
Speaker 2: black and brown bodies who typically wear hoop earrings and

1763
01:38:18,040 --> 01:38:23,639
Speaker 2: others associate sexaries like winged eyeliner, gold name plated necklaces, etc.

1764
01:38:24,040 --> 01:38:26,920
Speaker 2: Are typically viewed as ghetto and are not taken seriously

1765
01:38:26,920 --> 01:38:29,839
Speaker 2: by others in their daily lives. White people have actually

1766
01:38:29,840 --> 01:38:32,360
Speaker 2: exploited the culture and made it in the fashion. She added.

1767
01:38:33,200 --> 01:38:36,160
Speaker 2: While hoop earrings date back date back to ancient times,

1768
01:38:36,160 --> 01:38:38,920
Speaker 2: there have also been staples among cholas and hip hop

1769
01:38:39,000 --> 01:38:42,160
Speaker 2: artists who popularized large hoops and door knocker ear rings

1770
01:38:42,160 --> 01:38:44,679
Speaker 2: before they were featured in fashion shows like the Mark

1771
01:38:44,760 --> 01:38:50,160
Speaker 2: Jacobs Fall twenty seventeen collection. Martinez, an active member of

1772
01:38:50,240 --> 01:38:56,680
Speaker 2: LATINIX Latin X Students Union, wrote a an email to

1773
01:38:56,800 --> 01:38:59,559
Speaker 2: the entire student body explaining that hoop ear rings are

1774
01:38:59,600 --> 01:39:02,639
Speaker 2: just one of scessory appropriated by white people. She said,

1775
01:39:02,840 --> 01:39:05,000
Speaker 2: the art was created by myself and a few other

1776
01:39:05,080 --> 01:39:07,599
Speaker 2: women of color and have to being tired and annoyed

1777
01:39:07,600 --> 01:39:10,639
Speaker 2: with the recurring theme of white women appropriating styles that

1778
01:39:11,000 --> 01:39:14,800
Speaker 2: belong to the black and brown folks who created the culture.

1779
01:39:14,240 --> 01:39:17,759
Speaker 2: The culture actually comes from a historical background of oppression

1780
01:39:17,800 --> 01:39:21,160
Speaker 2: and exclusion. The black and brown bodies who typically wear

1781
01:39:21,200 --> 01:39:25,840
Speaker 2: hooped ear rings and other accessories like winged eyeliner, gold

1782
01:39:25,920 --> 01:39:29,720
Speaker 2: name plate necklaces are typically viewed the ghetto and not

1783
01:39:29,840 --> 01:39:33,800
Speaker 2: taken seriously by others of the day lives. Because of this,

1784
01:39:33,960 --> 01:39:36,280
Speaker 2: I see our winged eyelna, line lips and big hoop

1785
01:39:36,320 --> 01:39:39,120
Speaker 2: ear rings serving the symbols as an everyday act of resistance,

1786
01:39:39,520 --> 01:39:44,280
Speaker 2: especially here at Claremont Colleges. Meanwhile, we wonder why should

1787
01:39:44,280 --> 01:39:46,479
Speaker 2: white girls be able to take part in this culture

1788
01:39:46,840 --> 01:39:49,040
Speaker 2: wearing hoop ear rings just be in one case of

1789
01:39:49,040 --> 01:39:51,639
Speaker 2: it and be seen as cute and aesthetic and ethnic

1790
01:39:52,040 --> 01:39:54,360
Speaker 2: white people have actually exploited the culture and made it

1791
01:39:54,400 --> 01:39:55,640
Speaker 2: in the fashion. She said.

1792
01:39:56,920 --> 01:39:58,800
Speaker 3: To me, that's a bigger issue. That's the issue with

1793
01:39:58,840 --> 01:40:03,680
Speaker 3: white supremacy. That's bigger than just hoop ear rings. And

1794
01:40:03,760 --> 01:40:06,479
Speaker 3: like I said, just speak for me. I don't care

1795
01:40:06,520 --> 01:40:09,240
Speaker 3: nothing about hoop earrings, like they're just earrings to me

1796
01:40:10,160 --> 01:40:13,799
Speaker 3: in my opinion. Now, I do understand what they're saying about.

1797
01:40:14,880 --> 01:40:19,880
Speaker 3: Certain styles and types of hoop ear rings are considered

1798
01:40:19,960 --> 01:40:24,400
Speaker 3: quote unquote ghetto and all that stuff. I understand the complaint,

1799
01:40:24,400 --> 01:40:27,160
Speaker 3: but just hoop ear rings itself, they are all types

1800
01:40:27,160 --> 01:40:29,360
Speaker 3: of hoop ear rings that all types of women wear

1801
01:40:29,400 --> 01:40:33,439
Speaker 3: across all types of culture. And so I don't have

1802
01:40:33,439 --> 01:40:35,559
Speaker 3: a problem with hoop ear rings. This is a bigger problem.

1803
01:40:35,640 --> 01:40:38,599
Speaker 3: This is a problem stands from white supremacy and white

1804
01:40:38,640 --> 01:40:43,080
Speaker 3: women placed as the at the top of beauty standard

1805
01:40:43,520 --> 01:40:46,559
Speaker 3: and taking things from us. I completely understand that, but

1806
01:40:46,680 --> 01:40:49,559
Speaker 3: I you're not gonna said. Maybe maybe somebody can explain

1807
01:40:49,600 --> 01:40:51,880
Speaker 3: to me. I don't understand this connection between white women

1808
01:40:51,880 --> 01:40:52,840
Speaker 3: and hoop ear rings.

1809
01:40:54,240 --> 01:40:57,200
Speaker 2: After the incident received national media attention, Martine z Aguilera

1810
01:40:57,280 --> 01:41:00,200
Speaker 2: and Gollo Gonzales say they've been harassed by right wing

1811
01:41:00,320 --> 01:41:03,360
Speaker 2: groups and individuals. One receive the death threat through Facebook messenger.

1812
01:41:03,800 --> 01:41:07,000
Speaker 2: College president Melvin L. Oliver issued a statement condemning the

1813
01:41:07,000 --> 01:41:09,960
Speaker 2: cycle of violent hate speech directed at students. As a result,

1814
01:41:10,160 --> 01:41:12,840
Speaker 2: the three students also clarify their intentions behind the artwork

1815
01:41:12,840 --> 01:41:17,880
Speaker 2: and a well written statement or latinoreibels dot com, drawing

1816
01:41:17,920 --> 01:41:22,000
Speaker 2: attention to the more systemic forms of inequality. They said

1817
01:41:22,040 --> 01:41:23,519
Speaker 2: the true meaning of the mirror was a reflect the

1818
01:41:23,560 --> 01:41:26,240
Speaker 2: discrimination that women in non binary films of color face

1819
01:41:26,320 --> 01:41:30,080
Speaker 2: on college campuses when they alreadyer invisible. They also explain

1820
01:41:30,120 --> 01:41:33,679
Speaker 2: the pressures they face to shred the aesthetic in order

1821
01:41:33,680 --> 01:41:35,720
Speaker 2: to be taken seriously. While white women could engage the

1822
01:41:35,720 --> 01:41:38,920
Speaker 2: cultural appropriation without it hurting their social or academic prospects,

1823
01:41:40,000 --> 01:41:44,360
Speaker 2: latinex women are forced to assimilate in the academia to

1824
01:41:44,439 --> 01:41:47,480
Speaker 2: be respected while their struggles remade invisible to the institutions.

1825
01:41:47,520 --> 01:41:50,639
Speaker 2: They wrote, if we don't conform, it becomes difficult to

1826
01:41:50,800 --> 01:41:54,519
Speaker 2: access campus researchers find job opportunities to create professional networks

1827
01:41:54,760 --> 01:41:59,080
Speaker 2: despite eracial institutions knowingly labeled label forced to assimulation as a

1828
01:41:59,120 --> 01:42:04,000
Speaker 2: process professional socialization, rather than a process that violently strips

1829
01:42:04,040 --> 01:42:07,360
Speaker 2: identities and culture from women and non binary films of color.

1830
01:42:08,280 --> 01:42:10,679
Speaker 2: On the other hand, white up class e laitue women

1831
01:42:10,720 --> 01:42:14,080
Speaker 2: are able to appreciate appropriate fashion created by marginalized group

1832
01:42:14,360 --> 01:42:17,040
Speaker 2: with no consequence to their well being, social acceptance, and

1833
01:42:17,080 --> 01:42:18,120
Speaker 2: academic success.

1834
01:42:19,320 --> 01:42:21,840
Speaker 3: No, no, I agree with that, and I think that

1835
01:42:21,880 --> 01:42:24,640
Speaker 3: the deafperence is too far. But those deff threats goes

1836
01:42:24,760 --> 01:42:27,160
Speaker 3: back to white supremacy, in my opinion, which is a

1837
01:42:27,280 --> 01:42:31,879
Speaker 3: large to me. That's a larger issue all together.

1838
01:42:33,880 --> 01:42:38,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll say this, man, I definitely understand where they're

1839
01:42:38,960 --> 01:42:43,599
Speaker 2: coming from because it is a double standard, and I

1840
01:42:43,640 --> 01:42:46,040
Speaker 2: think they have a wall for freedom of speech for

1841
01:42:46,120 --> 01:42:48,719
Speaker 2: people to put whatever they want. They put a message.

1842
01:42:48,760 --> 01:42:51,880
Speaker 2: There's a reason this message went national. There's a reason,

1843
01:42:52,040 --> 01:42:54,120
Speaker 2: Like I think it went that way because they're right.

1844
01:42:54,640 --> 01:42:59,000
Speaker 2: I think it went that way because people are they're

1845
01:42:59,160 --> 01:43:03,120
Speaker 2: they're people well that are white are offended by them

1846
01:43:03,160 --> 01:43:07,000
Speaker 2: pointing out the double standard. Yeah yeah, And I don't

1847
01:43:07,040 --> 01:43:09,439
Speaker 2: think you can really separate it. Like It's one of

1848
01:43:09,439 --> 01:43:12,840
Speaker 2: the reasons I don't really do appropriation discussions because it's

1849
01:43:12,840 --> 01:43:16,400
Speaker 2: too murky and messy, and honestly, it feels like people

1850
01:43:16,439 --> 01:43:18,439
Speaker 2: are still figuring out the language around it.

1851
01:43:18,400 --> 01:43:20,439
Speaker 3: Right, And a lot of people do it across the boards.

1852
01:43:20,680 --> 01:43:23,080
Speaker 3: A lot of races do it across the board as

1853
01:43:23,120 --> 01:43:25,519
Speaker 3: far as swapping. So it's like, it's okay in this

1854
01:43:25,600 --> 01:43:28,040
Speaker 3: situation and not okay in the situation. It's all right here,

1855
01:43:28,080 --> 01:43:30,160
Speaker 3: but not alright here, right, but go ahead.

1856
01:43:30,479 --> 01:43:34,080
Speaker 2: But I also addressed to people's paths and shit. You know,

1857
01:43:35,760 --> 01:43:39,240
Speaker 2: I've seen people make arguments for and against women of

1858
01:43:39,280 --> 01:43:42,839
Speaker 2: color doing this to other cultures, like, oh, Beyonce dressed

1859
01:43:42,960 --> 01:43:47,240
Speaker 2: in typical Indian guard for this video, or she dressed

1860
01:43:47,280 --> 01:43:49,519
Speaker 2: up as an Indian goddess so this video that was wrong,

1861
01:43:50,160 --> 01:43:54,320
Speaker 2: or at the same time, you know, you can see

1862
01:43:54,360 --> 01:43:59,920
Speaker 2: Katie Perry put on like some some Asian face pain

1863
01:44:00,080 --> 01:44:02,439
Speaker 2: and shit like that, and then she gets roasted. You know,

1864
01:44:03,600 --> 01:44:06,760
Speaker 2: I don't completely understand all the rules to it. I

1865
01:44:06,800 --> 01:44:09,200
Speaker 2: do understand it's a double standard. I do understand it's

1866
01:44:09,200 --> 01:44:11,840
Speaker 2: fucked up. I do understand when there's a lot of

1867
01:44:11,840 --> 01:44:14,479
Speaker 2: stuff that when black and brown people do it is

1868
01:44:14,520 --> 01:44:17,680
Speaker 2: consider ghetto it bad, and when white people do it,

1869
01:44:17,680 --> 01:44:22,920
Speaker 2: it's considered quirky and unique and eccentric and shit. And

1870
01:44:22,960 --> 01:44:27,000
Speaker 2: I don't think that's changing anytime soon. I don't know

1871
01:44:27,120 --> 01:44:31,439
Speaker 2: that these discussions that raise awareness are even the tip

1872
01:44:31,479 --> 01:44:34,000
Speaker 2: of the iceberg with what it would need to happen.

1873
01:44:34,120 --> 01:44:36,200
Speaker 2: I don't even know the end result too. That's the

1874
01:44:36,240 --> 01:44:38,439
Speaker 2: other part of it. And I always come to this,

1875
01:44:39,160 --> 01:44:41,960
Speaker 2: what is the end result? White people should not wear

1876
01:44:41,960 --> 01:44:44,519
Speaker 2: hoop earrings. We're gonna get one hundreds, and white people

1877
01:44:44,520 --> 01:44:49,120
Speaker 2: don't understand that we're gonna, you know, like be on

1878
01:44:49,200 --> 01:44:51,639
Speaker 2: the ass and then they'll stop doing it as much

1879
01:44:53,320 --> 01:44:55,920
Speaker 2: or like some people say, you can wear it, but

1880
01:44:55,960 --> 01:44:58,840
Speaker 2: you just need to understand the history and shit. I

1881
01:44:58,840 --> 01:45:02,439
Speaker 2: don't know what I would want from a person that

1882
01:45:02,640 --> 01:45:06,720
Speaker 2: did like this isn't necessarily a defense, But I don't

1883
01:45:06,760 --> 01:45:10,120
Speaker 2: know what people want from like say mackelmore, you know

1884
01:45:10,160 --> 01:45:12,320
Speaker 2: what I mean. It's like you do you want them

1885
01:45:12,320 --> 01:45:14,360
Speaker 2: to not exist? Do you want to use his privilege

1886
01:45:14,360 --> 01:45:16,439
Speaker 2: to spread the word for people like he's been doing.

1887
01:45:16,760 --> 01:45:18,640
Speaker 2: Do you want them not to try to understand? Do

1888
01:45:18,680 --> 01:45:22,479
Speaker 2: you want them not to be rewarded for the fact

1889
01:45:22,479 --> 01:45:24,240
Speaker 2: that white people are gonna listen to him and it's

1890
01:45:24,280 --> 01:45:26,519
Speaker 2: a double standard, even though we think he's not the

1891
01:45:26,560 --> 01:45:29,720
Speaker 2: greatest rapper and shit like. It's that kind of thing

1892
01:45:29,760 --> 01:45:32,759
Speaker 2: for me where I'm like, i just feel like I'm angry,

1893
01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:38,760
Speaker 2: but I'm not necessarily sure what my end result of

1894
01:45:38,800 --> 01:45:40,439
Speaker 2: my anger is supposed to get me, to make me

1895
01:45:40,520 --> 01:45:43,720
Speaker 2: not be angry, because the double standard's gonna be there

1896
01:45:43,800 --> 01:45:50,439
Speaker 2: no matter how it's phrased, no matter what. Even if

1897
01:45:50,240 --> 01:45:53,120
Speaker 2: if all brown people started doing the opposite of what

1898
01:45:53,160 --> 01:45:56,200
Speaker 2: we do, that would become the new thing that everybody says,

1899
01:45:56,200 --> 01:46:01,800
Speaker 2: it's ghetto, it's us, it's not. Uh, there's nothing we

1900
01:46:01,880 --> 01:46:05,240
Speaker 2: can do about it, uh, for on our on our end,

1901
01:46:06,400 --> 01:46:09,000
Speaker 2: and even elevating and raising the issue. I just don't

1902
01:46:09,000 --> 01:46:10,720
Speaker 2: think they gonna get it. I just don't think they

1903
01:46:10,800 --> 01:46:16,920
Speaker 2: will ever. I forget who said it was it Chris.

1904
01:46:16,960 --> 01:46:19,000
Speaker 2: I heard someone said white people are basically a boorg.

1905
01:46:19,080 --> 01:46:22,040
Speaker 2: I think it was Chris on the Insanity Check podcast,

1906
01:46:22,640 --> 01:46:25,080
Speaker 2: and I was like, yeah, that's it. They just assimilate

1907
01:46:25,160 --> 01:46:28,840
Speaker 2: and take other people's ship into that shit. That's how

1908
01:46:28,880 --> 01:46:30,920
Speaker 2: it always been and how it always gonna be. I

1909
01:46:30,960 --> 01:46:33,960
Speaker 2: think we can point out that that's a problem. I

1910
01:46:34,040 --> 01:46:36,920
Speaker 2: just don't think there's any solution for it. White next

1911
01:46:37,000 --> 01:46:41,200
Speaker 2: year they That's the beauty and the dangerousness of whiteness

1912
01:46:41,200 --> 01:46:45,639
Speaker 2: and mass is that next year they will do another

1913
01:46:45,680 --> 01:46:50,320
Speaker 2: one of these fall lines. Uh, dealers with fat laces

1914
01:46:50,320 --> 01:46:53,479
Speaker 2: are back. They don't give a fuck, and and and

1915
01:46:53,800 --> 01:46:56,439
Speaker 2: you know, it's the only thing that will happen is

1916
01:46:56,520 --> 01:46:58,719
Speaker 2: that we'll have another controversy and there's nothing will happen

1917
01:46:58,760 --> 01:47:01,519
Speaker 2: from it. They won't learn shit, will still be mad,

1918
01:47:02,760 --> 01:47:06,920
Speaker 2: and then ultimately it'll end up being like a It's

1919
01:47:06,920 --> 01:47:10,200
Speaker 2: more of a surface issue anyway, because, as Karen said,

1920
01:47:10,240 --> 01:47:12,400
Speaker 2: the underlying part of all of this is white supremacy

1921
01:47:12,439 --> 01:47:13,160
Speaker 2: fucking sucks.

1922
01:47:13,560 --> 01:47:17,160
Speaker 3: So unless that's my thing is unless you because a

1923
01:47:17,160 --> 01:47:21,240
Speaker 3: lot of times people critiques are valid, people complaints are valid,

1924
01:47:21,560 --> 01:47:24,960
Speaker 3: people raising their voice and getting mad what the women

1925
01:47:25,080 --> 01:47:29,120
Speaker 3: said were valid. But the issue is not hoop earrings.

1926
01:47:29,160 --> 01:47:32,920
Speaker 3: The issue is bigger, and like you say, that's probably

1927
01:47:32,960 --> 01:47:35,600
Speaker 3: going circles with a lot of shit. Even Richard Dole's al,

1928
01:47:35,960 --> 01:47:38,040
Speaker 3: I mean, they fucking circles because you don't want to

1929
01:47:38,040 --> 01:47:39,320
Speaker 3: address the problem.

1930
01:47:39,360 --> 01:47:40,920
Speaker 2: For the record, they said it was bigger than the

1931
01:47:40,960 --> 01:47:43,320
Speaker 2: hoop ear rings. So it's not like those the girls,

1932
01:47:43,400 --> 01:47:45,840
Speaker 2: the women who brought this up don't know they they

1933
01:47:45,880 --> 01:47:49,200
Speaker 2: absolutely said these are this is my this is the

1934
01:47:49,280 --> 01:47:51,880
Speaker 2: real issue behind this. People just got mad at the

1935
01:47:51,920 --> 01:47:54,120
Speaker 2: symbolism of them writing on that wall that white people

1936
01:47:54,120 --> 01:47:57,160
Speaker 2: could do something, and that will always go more viral.

1937
01:47:57,479 --> 01:48:00,000
Speaker 2: Correct anytime you say white people can't do something, motherfucker

1938
01:48:00,160 --> 01:48:02,519
Speaker 2: run out the book, like I dare you. I wish

1939
01:48:02,600 --> 01:48:05,879
Speaker 2: your motherfucker would, like they just come out of nowhere anyway,

1940
01:48:06,439 --> 01:48:10,680
Speaker 2: zero two hundred.

1941
01:48:11,680 --> 01:48:13,400
Speaker 3: It's a hundred just for the fact that it's just

1942
01:48:13,479 --> 01:48:16,640
Speaker 3: a motherfucking circle. One hundred. Yeah, conversation.

1943
01:48:17,000 --> 01:48:21,559
Speaker 2: I honestly hate these conversations, but these are conversations people

1944
01:48:21,560 --> 01:48:23,439
Speaker 2: are having, and I do want to address it on

1945
01:48:23,479 --> 01:48:27,559
Speaker 2: the show. But like I said, I recognize it's almost

1946
01:48:27,560 --> 01:48:30,920
Speaker 2: a fruitless endeavor because I've never seen white people learn.

1947
01:48:32,160 --> 01:48:34,280
Speaker 2: I just never seen it. I think I just don't

1948
01:48:34,320 --> 01:48:36,920
Speaker 2: have to. It's almost that thing where you're just like,

1949
01:48:37,000 --> 01:48:39,519
Speaker 2: they're never gonna fucking get it, and honestly, it wouldn't

1950
01:48:39,520 --> 01:48:42,879
Speaker 2: improve my life on any level if white people understood

1951
01:48:42,920 --> 01:48:47,200
Speaker 2: they shouldn't be appropriate different parts of our culture because

1952
01:48:47,200 --> 01:48:51,400
Speaker 2: it's just basically whack. It wouldn't it wouldn't It actually

1953
01:48:51,439 --> 01:48:54,800
Speaker 2: wouldn't improve my life. Like if white women stop saying

1954
01:48:54,880 --> 01:48:58,280
Speaker 2: slang from black people and shit, I wouldn't be like, well,

1955
01:48:58,360 --> 01:49:01,640
Speaker 2: now I feel that my life is more valuable and

1956
01:49:01,680 --> 01:49:04,400
Speaker 2: that people understand. I just be like, that's a service

1957
01:49:04,479 --> 01:49:08,280
Speaker 2: level thing that they're not gonna give up. The systemic

1958
01:49:08,280 --> 01:49:13,000
Speaker 2: ship is the real stuff that bothers me, you know,

1959
01:49:13,280 --> 01:49:15,200
Speaker 2: but not not that you can't be bothered by both.

1960
01:49:15,280 --> 01:49:18,280
Speaker 2: I absolutely understand, and I'm not even telling people not

1961
01:49:18,360 --> 01:49:20,680
Speaker 2: to be bothered. I see it and I just be like,

1962
01:49:21,320 --> 01:49:23,840
Speaker 2: I think I'll just like roll my eyes mad, But

1963
01:49:23,880 --> 01:49:26,840
Speaker 2: I'm not write a paper mad, you know what I mean?

1964
01:49:27,439 --> 01:49:30,479
Speaker 2: Can I can? I can? I Is that? Okay? Is

1965
01:49:30,520 --> 01:49:33,480
Speaker 2: that a thing where you could be like, I'm I'm

1966
01:49:33,880 --> 01:49:38,800
Speaker 2: I'm about this ship they doing it again? But I'm

1967
01:49:38,800 --> 01:49:42,519
Speaker 2: not really, uh, you know, like burn this motherfucker down, mad?

1968
01:49:42,680 --> 01:49:42,920
Speaker 3: You know?

1969
01:49:45,520 --> 01:49:48,640
Speaker 2: All right, let's get into some other stuff. Do some

1970
01:49:48,680 --> 01:49:55,880
Speaker 2: guests the race right here we go now, that it

1971
01:49:56,000 --> 01:49:59,920
Speaker 2: is time for some guests the race. That's right, this guy,

1972
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:04,519
Speaker 2: it's the race time. Now, that is time for some

1973
01:50:04,720 --> 01:50:09,560
Speaker 2: guess the raids. Last right is Guts the race time.

1974
01:50:10,840 --> 01:50:14,240
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1975
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1976
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1977
01:50:17,520 --> 01:50:20,400
Speaker 2: we ask our contestants today the chat room, ain't Karen

1978
01:50:20,720 --> 01:50:24,719
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1979
01:50:25,120 --> 01:50:27,640
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1980
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1999
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2000
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2001
01:51:42,320 --> 01:51:45,360
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2002
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2003
01:51:50,439 --> 01:51:54,680
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2004
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2005
01:51:58,520 --> 01:52:00,200
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2006
01:52:00,040 --> 01:52:02,599
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2007
01:52:02,880 --> 01:52:04,720
Speaker 2: I have to wait till the next read so we

2008
01:52:04,760 --> 01:52:06,280
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2009
01:52:07,439 --> 01:52:07,639
Speaker 7: Uh.

2010
01:52:08,240 --> 01:52:12,959
Speaker 2: Oh, got an X Men wolverine? Uh statue? Oh figuring

2011
01:52:13,120 --> 01:52:18,720
Speaker 2: like a figure. All it's a metal, diecast metal wooverine.

2012
01:52:19,479 --> 01:52:25,720
Speaker 2: Uh maybe it's mhmm, maybe it's adamantum adamanticum. So uh

2013
01:52:26,400 --> 01:52:31,680
Speaker 2: skin I mean, I mean, uh skeleton. Uh uh. We

2014
01:52:31,760 --> 01:52:38,520
Speaker 2: got this shirt and all the shirts come in characize

2015
01:52:41,520 --> 01:52:44,920
Speaker 2: primal rage the shirt he go nerdy.

2016
01:52:46,760 --> 01:52:48,760
Speaker 3: I ain't going through that tying to clean my shirts out.

2017
01:52:49,400 --> 01:52:49,840
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

2018
01:52:50,640 --> 01:52:52,519
Speaker 2: Oh. We got a pin for the predator. They send

2019
01:52:52,520 --> 01:52:55,600
Speaker 2: you a pen every month. Uh, I saved those. I

2020
01:52:55,680 --> 01:53:06,680
Speaker 2: like those. Oh got another pin. Oh, because Primer was

2021
01:53:06,680 --> 01:53:09,559
Speaker 2: a theme, so the Predator didn't. Got this pen, the

2022
01:53:09,600 --> 01:53:12,679
Speaker 2: official pen for the mom. We got a Jurassic Park

2023
01:53:12,760 --> 01:53:19,280
Speaker 2: fence of post sign yeah. Uh a Jurassic World of

2024
01:53:19,720 --> 01:53:22,360
Speaker 2: electric drive offence throughout the park. Do not touch the fence.

2025
01:53:22,360 --> 01:53:26,160
Speaker 2: I like this. Uh so Yeah, that's just more stuff. Man,

2026
01:53:26,200 --> 01:53:29,840
Speaker 2: you could have been, could have been you? Could you

2027
01:53:29,960 --> 01:53:33,400
Speaker 2: fucked up? Dinion, of course you did. All right, Let's

2028
01:53:33,400 --> 01:53:35,920
Speaker 2: get to this seism. Like I said, lucrate dot com,

2029
01:53:35,960 --> 01:53:41,080
Speaker 2: slash TVGWT, cold TVGWT to say three dollars off. A

2030
01:53:41,240 --> 01:53:44,280
Speaker 2: woman was arrested after threatening to defecate on the police officer.

2031
01:53:44,720 --> 01:53:49,799
Speaker 2: What mm hmm boo boo lives matter? Oh No, a Manchester,

2032
01:53:49,880 --> 01:53:53,799
Speaker 2: New Hampshire woman is facing multiple charges that she allegedly

2033
01:53:53,840 --> 01:53:56,160
Speaker 2: threatened to defecate on the police officer trying to arrest

2034
01:53:56,240 --> 01:54:00,719
Speaker 2: her early Monday morning. Christina Roberts eighteen it is charged

2035
01:54:00,760 --> 01:54:03,439
Speaker 2: with simple assault and two counts of resistant arrest attention.

2036
01:54:03,600 --> 01:54:08,080
Speaker 2: Her boyfriend, Samuel Caraballo, nineteen, its charge was criminal threatening,

2037
01:54:08,360 --> 01:54:11,800
Speaker 2: resisting arrest detention and symbol assault. Both suspects appeared in

2038
01:54:11,800 --> 01:54:16,800
Speaker 2: court Monday. Bill information was not available. Apparently they were

2039
01:54:16,840 --> 01:54:20,120
Speaker 2: called around three am the police when a neighbor complained

2040
01:54:20,160 --> 01:54:22,439
Speaker 2: about the tennants in the second floor apartment. The neighbors

2041
01:54:22,479 --> 01:54:24,479
Speaker 2: said he heard the tenants fighting and asked him to

2042
01:54:24,520 --> 01:54:27,479
Speaker 2: quiet down and response, they allegedly threw eggs at his vehicle.

2043
01:54:28,280 --> 01:54:31,200
Speaker 2: Police responded to said the mail later identified as Caraballo,

2044
01:54:31,400 --> 01:54:34,560
Speaker 2: came to the door and immediately became confrontational. He backed

2045
01:54:34,600 --> 01:54:37,800
Speaker 2: out of the doorway and Roberts his girlfriend blocked the

2046
01:54:37,800 --> 01:54:40,360
Speaker 2: door frame and continued arguing with police. One of the

2047
01:54:40,360 --> 01:54:43,200
Speaker 2: officers didn't know just Carbollo walking toward a gun, a

2048
01:54:43,280 --> 01:54:47,040
Speaker 2: long gun located next to a bed. The officer pushed

2049
01:54:47,040 --> 01:54:49,640
Speaker 2: past Roberts, even though she grabbed his jacket to keep

2050
01:54:49,720 --> 01:54:53,160
Speaker 2: him from entering. Another officer then started to place Roberts

2051
01:54:53,240 --> 01:54:55,600
Speaker 2: under arrest for trying to keep the officers from entering

2052
01:54:55,600 --> 01:54:58,760
Speaker 2: the apartment. By this time, Carbollo and the officers who

2053
01:54:58,760 --> 01:55:01,080
Speaker 2: had ered the apartment were fighting control of the shotgun.

2054
01:55:01,400 --> 01:55:04,200
Speaker 2: Carabalo kicked the officer in the chest, but another officer

2055
01:55:04,400 --> 01:55:06,640
Speaker 2: was able to incapacitate him with a taser and he

2056
01:55:06,720 --> 01:55:10,520
Speaker 2: was taken into custody. Roberts was a taser. Roberts was

2057
01:55:10,560 --> 01:55:14,320
Speaker 2: also placed under arrest as they waited for the transport wagon.

2058
01:55:14,480 --> 01:55:18,320
Speaker 2: Roberts allegedly placed her buttocks on the officer's leg and

2059
01:55:18,400 --> 01:55:21,160
Speaker 2: threatened to defecate on her. It was not immediately known

2060
01:55:21,160 --> 01:55:24,120
Speaker 2: whether Roberts or Carbalo have retained. Attorney's guessed the race.

2061
01:55:26,240 --> 01:55:26,480
Speaker 3: Again.

2062
01:55:27,160 --> 01:55:32,760
Speaker 2: Her name is Christina Roberts. Karen's going with white. Let's

2063
01:55:32,840 --> 01:55:35,480
Speaker 2: check the chat room and see what you guys believe.

2064
01:55:36,360 --> 01:55:44,600
Speaker 2: Christina Roberts race is okay, shitty, shitty bin main white

2065
01:55:46,120 --> 01:55:49,800
Speaker 2: one who would wear a hoop it rings to a

2066
01:55:49,880 --> 01:55:53,400
Speaker 2: job interview and stay still get hired. White like the cotton.

2067
01:55:53,480 --> 01:55:56,920
Speaker 2: Her black prime date was picking. Oh my god, Beggy,

2068
01:55:57,000 --> 01:56:00,400
Speaker 2: look out for that. But white sits the officer saw

2069
01:56:00,480 --> 01:56:03,440
Speaker 2: a real gun and not an imaginary one. White. My

2070
01:56:03,520 --> 01:56:08,000
Speaker 2: father pays your salary. White. Yeah, I know they had

2071
01:56:08,000 --> 01:56:11,720
Speaker 2: a white white girl. Nonsense. Yeah, I know they always

2072
01:56:11,760 --> 01:56:16,000
Speaker 2: have the Uh uh, we got a one age seven

2073
01:56:16,040 --> 01:56:18,080
Speaker 2: in progress. I wonder if you do that. They're like,

2074
01:56:18,080 --> 01:56:21,640
Speaker 2: we got a number two win progress. Please, I'll call

2075
01:56:21,680 --> 01:56:24,240
Speaker 2: it back up. I need back up from my officers assistant. Uh.

2076
01:56:24,240 --> 01:56:38,080
Speaker 2: She was white and everybody gets white. By the way, man,

2077
01:56:38,160 --> 01:56:39,840
Speaker 2: if you ship on the officer, you just got to

2078
01:56:39,840 --> 01:56:41,520
Speaker 2: sit there in your ship for the rest of the day.

2079
01:56:42,080 --> 01:56:44,000
Speaker 2: It's a long time to be in a celle man

2080
01:56:45,160 --> 01:56:46,160
Speaker 2: smelling shitty.

2081
01:56:47,200 --> 01:56:49,720
Speaker 3: I'm saying, thank you, pissing on yourself and you're sitting it.

2082
01:56:50,040 --> 01:56:55,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, thank you. That sounds absolutely horrible. Oh, for

2083
01:56:55,840 --> 01:56:59,200
Speaker 2: some reason, it's not showing on the screen. I show you, okay,

2084
01:57:00,000 --> 01:57:02,720
Speaker 2: all right, So that's what she looked like. Guys, why

2085
01:57:02,760 --> 01:57:07,800
Speaker 2: does the new driven snow aw h out here trying

2086
01:57:07,840 --> 01:57:08,720
Speaker 2: to shit on people?

2087
01:57:10,040 --> 01:57:13,120
Speaker 3: Well, you got some nerve, right, and you get killed

2088
01:57:13,120 --> 01:57:14,120
Speaker 3: for let's get out of here.

2089
01:57:14,680 --> 01:57:17,560
Speaker 2: A girl eighteen and minced that she faked her rape

2090
01:57:17,680 --> 01:57:20,320
Speaker 2: two weeks ago when she ran to a church bloody

2091
01:57:20,320 --> 01:57:24,840
Speaker 2: and half naked after fiance reported her missing. Oh mm hmmm,

2092
01:57:25,000 --> 01:57:27,800
Speaker 2: mm hmmm, Yump and eighteen year old girls admitted to

2093
01:57:27,800 --> 01:57:30,560
Speaker 2: faking her own kidnapping and gang rape just two weeks

2094
01:57:30,560 --> 01:57:33,040
Speaker 2: after she went missing, and then Bizzali showed up at

2095
01:57:33,040 --> 01:57:35,960
Speaker 2: a church, blooded and barely clothed. Dennis and Texas Police

2096
01:57:36,000 --> 01:57:40,160
Speaker 2: releasa statement on Wednesday saying that Brianna Harmon Talbot had

2097
01:57:40,480 --> 01:57:43,000
Speaker 2: confessed to officers that the whole ordeal was a hoax.

2098
01:57:43,520 --> 01:57:45,400
Speaker 2: She has since been arrested in charge of making a

2099
01:57:45,400 --> 01:57:48,480
Speaker 2: false report to a peace officer. Police became involved in

2100
01:57:48,560 --> 01:57:50,760
Speaker 2: the talot with Talbot on March eighth, when her fiance

2101
01:57:50,920 --> 01:57:53,360
Speaker 2: called police around five thirty pm to report her missing.

2102
01:57:53,840 --> 01:57:56,200
Speaker 2: He told officers that he found his girlfriend's car band

2103
01:57:56,200 --> 01:57:58,040
Speaker 2: in an apartment park a lot with the driver's door

2104
01:57:58,080 --> 01:58:01,080
Speaker 2: open at her phone keys at you nearby. Police didn't

2105
01:58:01,080 --> 01:58:03,640
Speaker 2: out of the search effort, believing that Talbot had been objected,

2106
01:58:03,840 --> 01:58:06,240
Speaker 2: but later that evening, Talbot showed up at a local church.

2107
01:58:06,600 --> 01:58:10,400
Speaker 2: She was bloodied and wearing just a shirt, bried and underwear,

2108
01:58:10,480 --> 01:58:14,920
Speaker 2: claiming to have been gang raped. She later told police

2109
01:58:14,960 --> 01:58:18,560
Speaker 2: she was abducted by three black males in ski mask

2110
01:58:18,840 --> 01:58:21,000
Speaker 2: at her apartment before they took her to the woods

2111
01:58:21,040 --> 01:58:23,320
Speaker 2: near the church and took turns raping her while one

2112
01:58:23,320 --> 01:58:25,560
Speaker 2: of them held her down. Within just a few days

2113
01:58:25,560 --> 01:58:27,160
Speaker 2: of the incident to take to say that her story

2114
01:58:27,200 --> 01:58:29,280
Speaker 2: started to fall apart. One of the biggest holes in

2115
01:58:29,320 --> 01:58:31,680
Speaker 2: the story was the fact that medical professionals who explained

2116
01:58:32,160 --> 01:58:34,480
Speaker 2: I mean who examined Talbot at the hospital world unable

2117
01:58:34,480 --> 01:58:38,080
Speaker 2: to find evidence that she was sectually assaulted. Officers also

2118
01:58:38,160 --> 01:58:41,360
Speaker 2: combed the alleged crime scene and didn't find anything backing

2119
01:58:41,400 --> 01:58:44,360
Speaker 2: up her crime. The crime we believe the crime scene

2120
01:58:44,360 --> 01:58:46,760
Speaker 2: from the initial quote unquote kidnapping seen at the apartment

2121
01:58:46,800 --> 01:58:50,000
Speaker 2: complex to the point of Talbot's condition when she walked

2122
01:58:50,000 --> 01:58:53,000
Speaker 2: into the church was staged. On Tuesday, Talbot copped to

2123
01:58:53,040 --> 01:58:54,880
Speaker 2: the police she staged the hosts and that her wounds

2124
01:58:54,880 --> 01:58:57,360
Speaker 2: were self inflicted. The following day, she was arrested in

2125
01:58:57,440 --> 01:59:00,360
Speaker 2: charge of making foss sipport to a police officer. The

2126
01:59:00,600 --> 01:59:03,640
Speaker 2: department has also vowed to go out to Talbot for

2127
01:59:03,680 --> 01:59:06,560
Speaker 2: the cost of the search effort. Rihanna Harmon and Talwart's

2128
01:59:06,600 --> 01:59:08,840
Speaker 2: hoax was also on sold to our community and especially

2129
01:59:08,880 --> 01:59:11,600
Speaker 2: offensive to the African American community due to her description

2130
01:59:11,680 --> 01:59:14,200
Speaker 2: of the so called suspects in her host in her hoax,

2131
01:59:14,280 --> 01:59:17,160
Speaker 2: the anger and hurt calls from such oaks our difficult

2132
01:59:17,280 --> 01:59:19,800
Speaker 2: is so unnecessary to police statement read. Police did not

2133
01:59:19,840 --> 01:59:23,920
Speaker 2: explain the motivation for the hoax and whether Talbart's fiance

2134
01:59:24,240 --> 01:59:27,000
Speaker 2: was annoying participant in her lives.

2135
01:59:27,640 --> 01:59:31,480
Speaker 3: Guess the race one hundred white.

2136
01:59:31,720 --> 01:59:34,640
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, let's check the chat room and see

2137
01:59:34,680 --> 01:59:38,920
Speaker 2: what they believe. The race is twenty seventeen Susan Smith,

2138
01:59:39,000 --> 01:59:42,800
Speaker 2: white girl, gone girl, white, white, white, didn't snow. Police

2139
01:59:42,840 --> 01:59:46,720
Speaker 2: immediately took a break for not from not searching for

2140
01:59:46,800 --> 01:59:50,280
Speaker 2: missing black girls to find her white. Susan Smith's cousin white,

2141
01:59:50,280 --> 01:59:53,000
Speaker 2: fifty three percent of white. Blame it on some black guys.

2142
01:59:53,000 --> 01:59:55,440
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, officer, you know how niggas do

2143
01:59:55,840 --> 02:00:00,160
Speaker 2: live action beauty and the beast Lulla White live was

2144
02:00:00,160 --> 02:00:03,640
Speaker 2: whiter than white Rosewood two point oh white. That is

2145
02:00:04,160 --> 02:00:08,240
Speaker 2: all correct. You guys all got it. She was white.

2146
02:00:18,040 --> 02:00:19,760
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. That's her horrific.

2147
02:00:21,040 --> 02:00:26,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's real victims out here to bullshit.

2148
02:00:27,400 --> 02:00:27,680
Speaker 2: Yep.

2149
02:00:28,120 --> 02:00:28,240
Speaker 3: Uh.

2150
02:00:28,360 --> 02:00:32,080
Speaker 2: The thing that's funny to me, I absolutely believe her.

2151
02:00:32,280 --> 02:00:35,280
Speaker 2: Her fiance is probably in on it. Just looking at

2152
02:00:35,400 --> 02:00:39,040
Speaker 2: him because he reported her missing. She shut up. I

2153
02:00:39,080 --> 02:00:40,800
Speaker 2: don't know. They thought they was gonna start a race

2154
02:00:40,880 --> 02:00:45,320
Speaker 2: war what but yeah, it's real people out here missing

2155
02:00:45,360 --> 02:00:46,360
Speaker 2: the y'all fucking.

2156
02:00:46,080 --> 02:00:47,920
Speaker 3: Around, real people missing. Dog.

2157
02:00:52,640 --> 02:00:55,720
Speaker 2: Let's see what A man is in critical condition after

2158
02:00:55,840 --> 02:01:01,520
Speaker 2: a chicken joint beat down. Ah Mm hmm, nothing worse

2159
02:01:01,520 --> 02:01:03,400
Speaker 2: than a chicken joint beat down. I told you.

2160
02:01:03,720 --> 02:01:05,880
Speaker 3: Where we at? Floyd's where's we at?

2161
02:01:06,400 --> 02:01:08,960
Speaker 2: A man is in critical cognition after being savagely beaten

2162
02:01:09,000 --> 02:01:12,040
Speaker 2: by four men inside of Flatbush Fried chicken spot and

2163
02:01:12,080 --> 02:01:14,800
Speaker 2: then robbed by fifties. He lay helplessly on the floor.

2164
02:01:15,040 --> 02:01:17,080
Speaker 2: The thirty seven year old victim told Belice that the

2165
02:01:17,160 --> 02:01:19,280
Speaker 2: argument began when he offered to help two men pay

2166
02:01:19,280 --> 02:01:22,680
Speaker 2: for their meal, which they they were which they were

2167
02:01:22,760 --> 02:01:25,800
Speaker 2: a few dollars short of paying for inside of Texas

2168
02:01:25,840 --> 02:01:34,320
Speaker 2: Chicken and Burgers in Brooklyn and March first. Uh, that's saying.

2169
02:01:34,520 --> 02:01:37,440
Speaker 2: The two men got angry at the offer and soon

2170
02:01:37,520 --> 02:01:40,000
Speaker 2: grabbed the victims came and began striking him in the

2171
02:01:40,080 --> 02:01:41,880
Speaker 2: head and body with it at the fist.

2172
02:01:43,640 --> 02:01:46,440
Speaker 3: Wow, just because he offered, Hey man.

2173
02:01:46,560 --> 02:01:48,400
Speaker 2: I see y'all come a dollar shrut? I could I

2174
02:01:48,400 --> 02:01:51,880
Speaker 2: could help you out? And what the fuck you say?

2175
02:01:53,320 --> 02:01:55,560
Speaker 2: The men pummeled the victim harder when he tried to

2176
02:01:55,560 --> 02:01:58,160
Speaker 2: defend himself, and soon two other men entered the location

2177
02:01:58,320 --> 02:02:01,320
Speaker 2: and joined in the beaten. When the attackers fled, another

2178
02:02:01,360 --> 02:02:03,440
Speaker 2: man in the detata chicken a burger spot and empty

2179
02:02:03,480 --> 02:02:06,080
Speaker 2: the victim's pockets before a flood. The victim was taken

2180
02:02:06,120 --> 02:02:08,000
Speaker 2: to an area hospital, where he was treated for multiple

2181
02:02:08,000 --> 02:02:13,879
Speaker 2: broken bones, continusions, and lacerations. Video from inside the restaurants

2182
02:02:13,880 --> 02:02:16,120
Speaker 2: showed the visious attacks and unfolded in full view of

2183
02:02:16,160 --> 02:02:21,800
Speaker 2: the customers. Guess the race of these criminals, Karen says,

2184
02:02:21,920 --> 02:02:24,840
Speaker 2: them some niggas. Let's check the chat room. See what

2185
02:02:24,920 --> 02:02:31,600
Speaker 2: y'all believe. Cam believed them some niggas. The robber was

2186
02:02:31,640 --> 02:02:36,920
Speaker 2: directed his way by being Carson Black Ah, black menace

2187
02:02:36,960 --> 02:02:42,720
Speaker 2: to society, Black migos, black lie of black coming through

2188
02:02:42,800 --> 02:02:46,200
Speaker 2: right now. Everybody's going with black. Wow, please let them

2189
02:02:46,240 --> 02:02:51,320
Speaker 2: be white. That's not really a guess that Tar complained

2190
02:02:51,360 --> 02:02:54,320
Speaker 2: when it was going to be fifteen minutes on white black.

2191
02:02:54,800 --> 02:03:01,640
Speaker 2: This is some jigaboos New York niggas. They they gave

2192
02:03:01,720 --> 02:03:03,840
Speaker 2: him a two piece and a biscuit that he wasn't

2193
02:03:03,880 --> 02:03:04,720
Speaker 2: ready for.

2194
02:03:10,800 --> 02:03:12,000
Speaker 3: Really good son.

2195
02:03:13,640 --> 02:03:26,640
Speaker 2: The correct answer is black man. Did everybody gets black?

2196
02:03:26,640 --> 02:03:28,880
Speaker 2: Did anybody gets something else? I saw? Please let them

2197
02:03:28,920 --> 02:03:32,400
Speaker 2: be white, but that felt like a prayer. The correct

2198
02:03:32,400 --> 02:03:36,920
Speaker 2: answer is absolutely black. They were all black, and they

2199
02:03:36,920 --> 02:03:40,160
Speaker 2: beat this food down to the ground. Sad times, y'all

2200
02:03:42,000 --> 02:03:44,840
Speaker 2: trying to help somebody pay for their food, try to

2201
02:03:44,920 --> 02:03:49,440
Speaker 2: be nice, and motherfucker's out here like, Nope, gonna beat

2202
02:03:49,480 --> 02:03:53,000
Speaker 2: your ass up and then rob you and then rob

2203
02:03:53,080 --> 02:03:57,480
Speaker 2: your ass. It's wrong, care It's wrong on so many levels.

2204
02:03:58,560 --> 02:04:00,720
Speaker 2: And they stopped him too. They stomped him down.

2205
02:04:00,800 --> 02:04:03,160
Speaker 3: Good had broken bones and ship.

2206
02:04:03,760 --> 02:04:08,560
Speaker 2: Don't stomp mini nuts. Stomping many nuts. Yeah, it look

2207
02:04:08,640 --> 02:04:10,800
Speaker 2: like right there. He was like, y'all need some y'all

2208
02:04:10,840 --> 02:04:13,400
Speaker 2: need some help with some money, and I was like,

2209
02:04:13,440 --> 02:04:15,680
Speaker 2: what the fuck are you talking about? Shut the fuck up, man,

2210
02:04:16,280 --> 02:04:18,640
Speaker 2: And then they gave him that beat down. Just some

2211
02:04:18,640 --> 02:04:22,400
Speaker 2: people came in, helped out, and they stopped the hell

2212
02:04:22,440 --> 02:04:23,320
Speaker 2: out this motherfucker.

2213
02:04:24,000 --> 02:04:26,920
Speaker 3: Wow mm hmmm.

2214
02:04:27,240 --> 02:04:30,800
Speaker 2: They gonna jail now, all of them need to go

2215
02:04:30,880 --> 02:04:33,240
Speaker 2: to j Then this Ain't came in and was like,

2216
02:04:33,520 --> 02:04:35,840
Speaker 2: oh he knocked out, Let me get a couple of

2217
02:04:35,920 --> 02:04:39,800
Speaker 2: dollars out of his pocket. She y'all have a good one.

2218
02:04:41,880 --> 02:04:44,360
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, that's what broken bones in his body and everything.

2219
02:04:47,560 --> 02:04:52,560
Speaker 2: Oh well, uh, last one, let me get the bonus music.

2220
02:04:52,280 --> 02:05:07,720
Speaker 6: Out, doubled up saying the race.

2221
02:05:08,520 --> 02:05:10,120
Speaker 2: That's worry, double the points, double the race, and a

2222
02:05:10,160 --> 02:05:12,720
Speaker 2: bonus round against the race. So far, Caring is three

2223
02:05:12,760 --> 02:05:15,640
Speaker 2: for three. Let's see if she can keep it up

2224
02:05:15,720 --> 02:05:20,320
Speaker 2: in the final segment, the final one. A man swings

2225
02:05:20,400 --> 02:05:23,000
Speaker 2: horse penis around in front of shock teens in the

2226
02:05:23,040 --> 02:05:28,440
Speaker 2: park before rubbing it in baby oil. What a man

2227
02:05:28,520 --> 02:05:31,960
Speaker 2: swung a horse's penis around in circles before rubbing it

2228
02:05:32,040 --> 02:05:33,920
Speaker 2: with baby oil in front of a group of teens

2229
02:05:33,920 --> 02:05:34,920
Speaker 2: in a packed out part?

2230
02:05:35,320 --> 02:05:38,840
Speaker 3: How did you get a hold on horses? Penis? Horses penises? Done?

2231
02:05:38,880 --> 02:05:40,040
Speaker 3: And just don't lay around?

2232
02:05:40,800 --> 02:05:43,280
Speaker 2: Stephen Cuff was spurred on to carry out the lude

2233
02:05:43,280 --> 02:05:45,920
Speaker 2: act that they approached the group at Cambridge and used

2234
02:05:45,920 --> 02:05:47,240
Speaker 2: the horse's tail as a beard.

2235
02:05:47,960 --> 02:05:50,880
Speaker 3: I bet you he was did the horse protest.

2236
02:05:50,840 --> 02:05:52,800
Speaker 2: When that got some last from the group, and he

2237
02:05:53,520 --> 02:05:56,800
Speaker 2: decided to carry out the holy inappropriate sexual act When

2238
02:05:56,840 --> 02:06:00,960
Speaker 2: he noticed the animal have be come visibly excited at first,

2239
02:06:01,000 --> 02:06:04,360
Speaker 2: he swung the horses penis around in circles, and then

2240
02:06:04,480 --> 02:06:06,640
Speaker 2: moved his hand up and down the horses penis as

2241
02:06:06,680 --> 02:06:10,280
Speaker 2: if he was masturbating it. In his defense, the court

2242
02:06:10,560 --> 02:06:13,800
Speaker 2: heard Cuff told police his son had noticed his horses

2243
02:06:13,880 --> 02:06:17,160
Speaker 2: penis and was in need of a clean and had

2244
02:06:17,320 --> 02:06:19,440
Speaker 2: put some baby oil on it and rubbed it to

2245
02:06:19,520 --> 02:06:20,320
Speaker 2: get the dirt off.

2246
02:06:20,800 --> 02:06:23,480
Speaker 3: That's not how that works. Her. I don't know about animals,

2247
02:06:23,520 --> 02:06:25,720
Speaker 3: but last time I checked, that's not how that works.

2248
02:06:26,440 --> 02:06:30,440
Speaker 2: What was he doing with baby or just on demand?

2249
02:06:30,840 --> 02:06:33,240
Speaker 3: Y'all need to check. Y'all need to check this man.

2250
02:06:33,440 --> 02:06:35,960
Speaker 3: He's done dungeonum with some animals.

2251
02:06:35,640 --> 02:06:42,200
Speaker 2: Or some ship before. No no, no, no no no

2252
02:06:42,640 --> 02:06:46,520
Speaker 2: no no no no no no.

2253
02:06:48,320 --> 02:06:52,000
Speaker 3: No no. All of them were the animals because they

2254
02:06:52,000 --> 02:06:53,000
Speaker 3: don't seen his ass before.

2255
02:06:54,240 --> 02:06:54,840
Speaker 2: All of them what.

2256
02:06:55,280 --> 02:06:57,000
Speaker 3: All all of them nose with the animals because they

2257
02:06:57,000 --> 02:06:59,600
Speaker 3: don't see anything. We don't understand the animals they protesting.

2258
02:07:00,400 --> 02:07:03,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, who walks around, goes man that that

2259
02:07:03,640 --> 02:07:06,600
Speaker 2: horse penis is dirty? It needs some baby or right,

2260
02:07:07,040 --> 02:07:09,480
Speaker 2: let me get my custom baby or person is not

2261
02:07:09,600 --> 02:07:12,600
Speaker 2: a vet my horse my horse jerking baby? Ord I

2262
02:07:12,720 --> 02:07:16,080
Speaker 2: just carried around all day looking for situations. I'm baby

2263
02:07:16,160 --> 02:07:18,640
Speaker 2: old man. I'm a really useless hero.

2264
02:07:19,280 --> 02:07:21,640
Speaker 3: Don't see the bottle specially made for horse penises.

2265
02:07:21,920 --> 02:07:24,560
Speaker 2: Baby old man sounds like the enemy to all the

2266
02:07:24,640 --> 02:07:30,320
Speaker 2: hotels like it's me, baby old man. No these black

2267
02:07:30,480 --> 02:07:35,760
Speaker 2: bed which negro Oh, baby old man's here. Run Yeah.

2268
02:07:35,800 --> 02:07:38,200
Speaker 2: The fifty four year old had been out with a

2269
02:07:38,240 --> 02:07:40,920
Speaker 2: group about five people on Jesus Green in May A,

2270
02:07:41,120 --> 02:07:43,320
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen, one of the hottest days of the year

2271
02:07:43,400 --> 02:07:45,720
Speaker 2: so far. The incident happened. He had been drinking that day,

2272
02:07:46,000 --> 02:07:47,840
Speaker 2: you know what I'm say, and feared he may have

2273
02:07:47,960 --> 02:07:52,000
Speaker 2: been spiked at his sitienz. At Cambridge Crowd Court today

2274
02:07:52,000 --> 02:07:54,400
Speaker 2: he was jailed for four months suspended for eighteen months

2275
02:07:54,680 --> 02:07:58,120
Speaker 2: after he admitted one count of outraging public DZCY. At

2276
02:07:58,160 --> 02:08:01,839
Speaker 2: a previous hearing, Prosecutor Sarah Walker said that Sunday afternoon,

2277
02:08:01,920 --> 02:08:04,440
Speaker 2: Jesus Green was occupied by groups of young people, families

2278
02:08:04,480 --> 02:08:07,680
Speaker 2: and young children had described as packed. A teenage girl

2279
02:08:07,720 --> 02:08:09,720
Speaker 2: who was with a large group of friends aged sixteen

2280
02:08:09,760 --> 02:08:12,040
Speaker 2: and seventeen first notice Cuff while they were listening to

2281
02:08:12,160 --> 02:08:15,280
Speaker 2: music and enjoying the weather. She said she didn't know him,

2282
02:08:15,320 --> 02:08:17,200
Speaker 2: but the noticeable thing about him was the fact that

2283
02:08:17,240 --> 02:08:19,680
Speaker 2: he had a horse with him on Jesus Green On

2284
02:08:19,760 --> 02:08:22,800
Speaker 2: that afternoon, he came over towards that group and started

2285
02:08:22,880 --> 02:08:25,600
Speaker 2: singing dance to the music they were listening to. It

2286
02:08:25,760 --> 02:08:27,440
Speaker 2: was clear, she said that he had been drinking or

2287
02:08:27,480 --> 02:08:29,680
Speaker 2: taking something. He was mumbling or swaying to the music.

2288
02:08:29,760 --> 02:08:32,240
Speaker 2: His eyes were all over the place, the court heard.

2289
02:08:32,360 --> 02:08:34,920
Speaker 2: After letting one of her group have a ride on

2290
02:08:34,960 --> 02:08:37,520
Speaker 2: the horse, he began leading the animal ARide and started

2291
02:08:37,520 --> 02:08:40,240
Speaker 2: playing with it. She said. He made a beer with

2292
02:08:40,320 --> 02:08:42,360
Speaker 2: his tail that got some laughs from that group, But

2293
02:08:42,560 --> 02:08:45,440
Speaker 2: that seen the spur, he said, the horse became visibly

2294
02:08:45,480 --> 02:08:48,160
Speaker 2: ex She said the horse became visibly excited, which the

2295
02:08:48,280 --> 02:08:51,680
Speaker 2: man noticed and went near to it, despite the group's

2296
02:08:51,680 --> 02:08:55,800
Speaker 2: protests not to. The group told the horses penis, told

2297
02:08:56,040 --> 02:08:59,760
Speaker 2: the wait, he grabbed hold of the horse's penis and

2298
02:09:00,000 --> 02:09:03,360
Speaker 2: already swinging around in circles, he went on, Uh.

2299
02:09:04,200 --> 02:09:07,200
Speaker 3: Wouldn't you be scared? Will fuck him up like the

2300
02:09:07,640 --> 02:09:09,000
Speaker 3: horse on protest.

2301
02:09:09,040 --> 02:09:10,520
Speaker 2: I don't think a horse is gonna suck you up,

2302
02:09:10,520 --> 02:09:13,440
Speaker 2: white jacketed off all the time. Ain't gonna hoo you

2303
02:09:14,400 --> 02:09:16,320
Speaker 2: all the times for an animal to to buck up

2304
02:09:16,360 --> 02:09:17,880
Speaker 2: it's probably not gonna be what. You got a hold

2305
02:09:17,920 --> 02:09:22,080
Speaker 2: of his penis. I'm not I'm not a horse penis

2306
02:09:22,120 --> 02:09:23,280
Speaker 2: expert by any means.

2307
02:09:23,560 --> 02:09:24,000
Speaker 8: My bad.

2308
02:09:24,080 --> 02:09:28,680
Speaker 2: I did sleep at a holiday end last night, My bad.

2309
02:09:28,720 --> 02:09:31,040
Speaker 2: But if you grab my penis, you have my full

2310
02:09:31,120 --> 02:09:35,360
Speaker 2: undivided attention. Ah uh uh. He grabbed hold of the penis,

2311
02:09:35,440 --> 02:09:39,000
Speaker 2: the horses penis that started to swing it around in circles.

2312
02:09:39,880 --> 02:09:41,840
Speaker 2: He went up and moved his hand up and down

2313
02:09:41,880 --> 02:09:44,480
Speaker 2: the horse penis as if he was masturbating it. People

2314
02:09:44,520 --> 02:09:47,120
Speaker 2: were shouting at him to stop. When are you by

2315
02:09:47,200 --> 02:09:49,240
Speaker 2: police about the incident, Cuff said his son had no

2316
02:09:49,400 --> 02:09:51,360
Speaker 2: The horse penis was in need of a clean and

2317
02:09:51,680 --> 02:09:53,880
Speaker 2: put some baby oil and rubbed to get the dirt off.

2318
02:09:55,360 --> 02:09:55,560
Speaker 3: Now.

2319
02:09:56,400 --> 02:10:00,520
Speaker 2: Cuff apparently has twenty five previous convictions spending many years. Uh.

2320
02:10:00,600 --> 02:10:02,760
Speaker 2: He was not acting in a sexual way towards the horse,

2321
02:10:02,800 --> 02:10:04,680
Speaker 2: according to his defending lawyer.

2322
02:10:04,480 --> 02:10:06,320
Speaker 3: I told you that didn't sound right for you to

2323
02:10:06,440 --> 02:10:10,080
Speaker 3: come pre BABYI but I was like, you've done this before.

2324
02:10:10,320 --> 02:10:13,800
Speaker 3: You you came ready. Who carries around horse baby all

2325
02:10:13,880 --> 02:10:16,160
Speaker 3: in their back pocket like lotion?

2326
02:10:17,000 --> 02:10:19,880
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, well that would be a horse of another color.

2327
02:10:19,920 --> 02:10:24,520
Speaker 2: Cares while it was clear, uh, a matter, clearly a

2328
02:10:24,600 --> 02:10:27,080
Speaker 2: matter relating to a horse, and the actor stil simulated

2329
02:10:27,080 --> 02:10:29,560
Speaker 2: dis masturbation. The basis of the plea makes it clear

2330
02:10:29,600 --> 02:10:31,840
Speaker 2: that he was not acting in a sexual way towards

2331
02:10:31,880 --> 02:10:38,320
Speaker 2: the horse. This wasn't something, uh, that was being done

2332
02:10:38,400 --> 02:10:40,520
Speaker 2: for sexual gratification. It is clear from the statement from

2333
02:10:40,560 --> 02:10:42,960
Speaker 2: the witnesses of this case that he was doing it

2334
02:10:43,080 --> 02:10:48,120
Speaker 2: for attention, but it wouldn't that still be sexual attentions.

2335
02:10:49,000 --> 02:10:52,440
Speaker 2: I don't know something about that scenes wrong, man, Yeah,

2336
02:10:53,120 --> 02:10:55,000
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. It sounds like he's back in the saddle.

2337
02:10:56,200 --> 02:10:56,280
Speaker 3: Uh.

2338
02:10:56,440 --> 02:11:00,200
Speaker 2: He was acting up. He was acting up to an

2339
02:11:00,200 --> 02:11:02,840
Speaker 2: audience to defend it. Is hugely embarrassed by his actions

2340
02:11:02,920 --> 02:11:07,280
Speaker 2: and by appearing before the court for uh. He behaved

2341
02:11:07,320 --> 02:11:10,400
Speaker 2: in a very foolish manner. Most of his offending has

2342
02:11:10,480 --> 02:11:12,560
Speaker 2: been related to drink. He accepts that he had been

2343
02:11:12,640 --> 02:11:15,600
Speaker 2: drinking alcohol. He believes that his drink had been spiked.

2344
02:11:16,600 --> 02:11:21,160
Speaker 2: M hm. I ain't buying that. He is not somebody

2345
02:11:21,200 --> 02:11:24,400
Speaker 2: who has any underlying sexual issues. He offers his sincere

2346
02:11:24,440 --> 02:11:33,000
Speaker 2: apologies to those offended by the accident. Incident, So, yep,

2347
02:11:33,240 --> 02:11:38,960
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, guess the race white okay, all right,

2348
02:11:41,360 --> 02:11:42,760
Speaker 2: let me check the chat room and see what you

2349
02:11:42,800 --> 02:11:47,680
Speaker 2: guys believe. Hold your horses white. Yeah, they were just

2350
02:11:47,760 --> 02:11:53,560
Speaker 2: horsing around. I'm just saying, Maine active member of Peter

2351
02:11:53,840 --> 02:11:58,760
Speaker 2: and Loves Animals, Win Wing white, brockobuster white the fuck white.

2352
02:11:58,920 --> 02:12:01,640
Speaker 2: It wasn't sexual. He only impressed the K nine girlfriend.

2353
02:12:03,160 --> 02:12:06,520
Speaker 2: Hold my beard and my horse white. The biggest penis

2354
02:12:06,560 --> 02:12:07,720
Speaker 2: he will ever have? White?

2355
02:12:07,880 --> 02:12:08,040
Speaker 3: Ah?

2356
02:12:08,920 --> 02:12:11,400
Speaker 2: Well, that was probably the biggest penis everybody would ever have.

2357
02:12:11,560 --> 02:12:14,400
Speaker 2: It's a horse penis. Watch me, well, now watch me.

2358
02:12:14,480 --> 02:12:18,800
Speaker 2: Ain't a white white whoever would have horse? Uh and

2359
02:12:19,040 --> 02:12:23,600
Speaker 2: rubbish penis public with baby oil on deck part if

2360
02:12:23,640 --> 02:12:25,960
Speaker 2: the horse jack off kit as part of the horse

2361
02:12:26,040 --> 02:12:26,600
Speaker 2: jack off kit.

2362
02:12:27,760 --> 02:12:27,880
Speaker 3: Uh?

2363
02:12:28,440 --> 02:12:34,800
Speaker 2: All right, The correct answer is he was white.

2364
02:12:46,200 --> 02:12:47,640
Speaker 3: The way you had to tell what you're gonna say,

2365
02:12:47,640 --> 02:12:49,200
Speaker 3: he was black. I'm about to say nigga white.

2366
02:12:50,040 --> 02:12:52,880
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, I just hesitated because I picture upim.

2367
02:12:52,880 --> 02:12:54,000
Speaker 2: I just know that nigga was white.

2368
02:12:54,200 --> 02:12:54,600
Speaker 3: Okay.

2369
02:12:56,640 --> 02:12:58,440
Speaker 2: I didn't do any research for that one. I mean,

2370
02:12:58,480 --> 02:13:03,400
Speaker 2: come on, guys, that's right. I'm in on the two guys.

2371
02:13:03,560 --> 02:13:08,680
Speaker 2: I'm also racist. All right, let's go home to uh,

2372
02:13:10,200 --> 02:13:13,240
Speaker 2: let's stop beating a dead horse eye. Stop beating a

2373
02:13:13,320 --> 02:13:17,440
Speaker 2: dead horse off and go to the next story with

2374
02:13:17,560 --> 02:13:18,280
Speaker 2: sored rations.

2375
02:13:18,520 --> 02:13:20,000
Speaker 3: Yes, you let this gallop away?

2376
02:13:20,720 --> 02:13:23,520
Speaker 2: Mm hmm yep, I read about it in Gallop News Fall.

2377
02:13:25,400 --> 02:13:30,320
Speaker 2: That's all. But uh, all right, then this is not

2378
02:13:30,440 --> 02:13:43,480
Speaker 2: horseshoes or hand jobs. Let's move on, and you have the.

2379
02:13:43,560 --> 02:13:47,000
Speaker 3: Horse hairs wears everywhere, up in arms, up with the moves.

2380
02:13:47,040 --> 02:13:50,200
Speaker 2: Actually mm hmmm, I don't even know what that means.

2381
02:13:52,480 --> 02:13:54,840
Speaker 3: So that's running joke.

2382
02:13:56,040 --> 02:13:58,200
Speaker 2: Look, because of these jokes, I can lead you the water,

2383
02:13:58,280 --> 02:14:03,800
Speaker 2: but I can't make you drink, okay. Pirate arrested for

2384
02:14:03,880 --> 02:14:07,480
Speaker 2: threatening people with sword. David Willis, forty eight, was wearing

2385
02:14:07,520 --> 02:14:11,120
Speaker 2: a power outfit, ranting incoherently and waving the sword at people.

2386
02:14:11,400 --> 02:14:13,680
Speaker 2: According to an the Rest support, a man in a

2387
02:14:13,760 --> 02:14:17,720
Speaker 2: pirate costume was arrested after he waved his sword at

2388
02:14:17,720 --> 02:14:22,680
Speaker 2: people on the beach, reading at them incoherently. Man, he's

2389
02:14:22,720 --> 02:14:29,880
Speaker 2: talking pirate talk. The The oddly dressed figure walking near

2390
02:14:30,440 --> 02:14:34,200
Speaker 2: Flagler by the Sea compound drew the attention of a

2391
02:14:34,240 --> 02:14:39,120
Speaker 2: sixty year old Longwood resident, Andrew Hoojeman, a vacationer who

2392
02:14:39,280 --> 02:14:41,360
Speaker 2: was outside having a drink when he noticed the pirate,

2393
02:14:41,360 --> 02:14:43,400
Speaker 2: who was yelling as he walked through the campground toward

2394
02:14:43,480 --> 02:14:48,280
Speaker 2: the beach. Hoogeman's noticed the pirate sword and found him suspicious.

2395
02:14:49,440 --> 02:14:51,080
Speaker 2: He noticed that a man and a woman were in

2396
02:14:51,160 --> 02:14:54,680
Speaker 2: a pirate's path on the beach, so concervative safety approached

2397
02:14:54,680 --> 02:14:56,520
Speaker 2: the pirate, later determined to be forty eight year old

2398
02:14:56,560 --> 02:15:02,280
Speaker 2: Palm Coast resisent David Mark Willis. White Huge's Man stated

2399
02:15:02,320 --> 02:15:05,040
Speaker 2: that mister Mark Willis was yelling at incoherent and he

2400
02:15:05,200 --> 02:15:11,000
Speaker 2: also was waving the sword. Willis started walking towards Hughesman

2401
02:15:11,640 --> 02:15:15,160
Speaker 2: while swinging the sword, and Hugman later told the police

2402
02:15:15,280 --> 02:15:19,240
Speaker 2: that he feared for his life, but Hugeman's, who was

2403
02:15:19,280 --> 02:15:23,800
Speaker 2: a private investigator, was able to distract Willis, then jump

2404
02:15:23,880 --> 02:15:28,480
Speaker 2: mister Willis and took him to the ground. Damn, it's

2405
02:15:28,520 --> 02:15:31,440
Speaker 2: a hero. I wouldn't have fuck with a dude with

2406
02:15:31,480 --> 02:15:33,120
Speaker 2: a sword on the beach. I would have just yelled

2407
02:15:33,120 --> 02:15:36,560
Speaker 2: at that couple like y'all better run and they'll turn around,

2408
02:15:36,560 --> 02:15:39,720
Speaker 2: and I would have already been running. Huge Man's son,

2409
02:15:39,760 --> 02:15:42,160
Speaker 2: a seventeen year old, got a pair of Hugeman's handcuffs.

2410
02:15:42,280 --> 02:15:45,880
Speaker 2: This is got oh because he's a detective, Yeah he was.

2411
02:15:46,160 --> 02:15:48,760
Speaker 2: They were able to secure Willis and keep the sword

2412
02:15:49,000 --> 02:15:55,000
Speaker 2: out of his reach until deputies ride. So yep, they

2413
02:15:55,040 --> 02:15:57,160
Speaker 2: said he did look drunk. They saw him fall into

2414
02:15:57,200 --> 02:15:59,120
Speaker 2: the water and ran up to him to make sure

2415
02:15:59,160 --> 02:16:01,560
Speaker 2: he's okay, but Willi's got up and started yelling and

2416
02:16:01,600 --> 02:16:07,800
Speaker 2: coming towards him. Willis attacked Hugmans. He said, all right,

2417
02:16:07,800 --> 02:16:10,720
Speaker 2: we'll be back tomorrow with my man Mike Brown for

2418
02:16:10,840 --> 02:16:15,680
Speaker 2: the deceet, the comics and comedy outliers. We'll be talking

2419
02:16:15,720 --> 02:16:18,120
Speaker 2: about all kinds of stuff with him, So until then,

2420
02:16:19,000 --> 02:16:19,480
Speaker 2: I love you.

2421
02:16:20,720 --> 02:16:20,920
Speaker 3: Wh