WEBVTT - 06/11/21 DPS Hour 2 Rick Neuheisel and Mike Florio 0:00:00.680 --> 0:00:03.480 You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:06.960 Sports Radio. It's out our two on this Friday, a 0:00:07.080 --> 0:00:10.959 Meet Friday. I was out in expecting the Meat Friday lineup, 0:00:11.360 --> 0:00:14.160 just to make sure Tyler is doing a good job. Tyler, 0:00:14.200 --> 0:00:16.840 of course, who moderates chat Row. Shout out to chat Row. 0:00:17.560 --> 0:00:23.840 Smoky meatball subs, grilled brishute, wrapped asparagus, a lot of meat. 0:00:24.640 --> 0:00:28.520 McLevin wants another chance to plan Meet Friday. And I said, 0:00:28.560 --> 0:00:31.720 he's got to do something to prove to this audience 0:00:32.000 --> 0:00:34.599 that he let down when he said we were going 0:00:34.640 --> 0:00:38.720 to have tofu it's called meet Friday, and you let 0:00:38.720 --> 0:00:41.400 down a nation. McLevin. What if I give you guys 0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:44.320 some like or d'euvres on Wednesday and night early in 0:00:44.360 --> 0:00:47.519 the week, build up some goodwill. Well, where are you 0:00:47.560 --> 0:00:50.720 getting said or d'euvres. I mean, I'm not going to 0:00:50.800 --> 0:00:53.080 go out and gather and hunt this meeting. But I 0:00:53.120 --> 0:00:55.200 can go to the store. I'm going to stop and 0:00:55.280 --> 0:00:58.080 chop gathering hunt, yes, pay, Yeah, I think mcloven has 0:00:58.120 --> 0:00:59.480 to do that to gather. Hey, he has to do 0:00:59.480 --> 0:01:02.120 like a mini will meet the basketball, like blood dripping 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:05.880 down our arms. You need to have arrows in your 0:01:05.959 --> 0:01:08.319 quiver or whatever I did to go bow hunting to 0:01:08.360 --> 0:01:11.959 get back. I think, so now no, we go bo 0:01:12.120 --> 0:01:15.760 hunting you and then most dangerous game style. Yeah, and 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:18.120 then if you live, then you get to plan to 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:21.960 meet Friday menu. Maybe it was the pandemic, maybe it's 0:01:22.000 --> 0:01:24.640 the direction the sport needed to go. Anyway, but a 0:01:24.760 --> 0:01:28.440 select committee is advising college football to expand its playoff 0:01:28.440 --> 0:01:30.319 from four teams to twelve teams. Now, it's not going 0:01:30.360 --> 0:01:33.520 to happen overnight, probably going to be three years. The 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:36.120 four team system apparently got a little stale. Well, it 0:01:36.160 --> 0:01:38.280 took forever for me to go we need more than 0:01:38.319 --> 0:01:41.640 just two teams. We went to four and looks like 0:01:41.680 --> 0:01:45.520 we're ready to move on from that. We always talk about, 0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:49.240 well everybody makes money, Hey, why not have more teams, 0:01:49.320 --> 0:01:53.120 more conferences. You know, you have three conference presidents and 0:01:53.160 --> 0:01:56.520 the Notre Dame Athletic Director. They got together and they said, well, 0:01:56.560 --> 0:01:59.520 here's our plan. And I was told the information was 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:04.160 leaked yesterday, so the talk shows would be discussing this, 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:07.400 there'd be articles written on this, and this would allow 0:02:08.080 --> 0:02:11.200 you know, the media to vet it for this select committee. 0:02:11.400 --> 0:02:13.679 So then when they get ready to meet next week 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:16.200 to vote on this. You have a really good idea 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:20.400 about public sentiment there. But the four highest rank conference 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:24.000 champions would get a buy, and I'm sure there's going 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:26.960 to be the the top twelve got in, but the 0:02:26.960 --> 0:02:29.079 fan base for the thirteenth team is not going to 0:02:29.160 --> 0:02:32.600 be happy. If that's the worst case scenario, I'm fine 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:35.840 with that. If you're the thirteenth team, you know what, 0:02:36.000 --> 0:02:38.640 you can blame yourself. I'm not gonna blame anybody else. 0:02:38.680 --> 0:02:41.400 Here Father's Day gifts, We've got it for you. You 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:44.680 can go to dan patrick dot com. T shirts, hats, 0:02:44.840 --> 0:02:48.239 coffee mugs, some great things and some special sales going 0:02:48.280 --> 0:02:51.600 on right now at dan patrick dot com. He is 0:02:51.639 --> 0:02:55.960 a former college quarterback, former college coach, and currently he 0:02:56.080 --> 0:02:59.400 is a college football analyst for CBS Sports. A popular 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:02.919 Rick new Eil is joining us on the program. Rick, 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:06.919 your reaction to the news yesterday that twelve team playoff 0:03:07.120 --> 0:03:11.440 is not a question of if. But when I'm in 0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:20.720 that choir singing ha Lujah, lelujah, we need this and 0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:25.320 this is not Alabama or Ohio State or Clemson's fault. 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:29.080 All they did was rise to the top of college football, 0:03:29.200 --> 0:03:31.280 and they had a strength to hold on it because 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:34.400 every recruit wanted to be a part of the college 0:03:34.440 --> 0:03:37.960 football Playoff and those were the three places along with Oklahoma, 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:39.800 I guess, but they never won one of the games 0:03:41.560 --> 0:03:43.560 that you'd go if you wanted to be in. And 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:47.480 you know, I think it was time that we change 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:52.440 the format that allows a little bit more inclusion for 0:03:52.600 --> 0:03:57.200 other places, especially when schedules are not alike. You know, 0:03:57.360 --> 0:04:00.440 we've got two conferences amongst the Power five still are 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:03.760 only playing eight conference games. So if you if you're 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:08.440 not going to have at least some measure of equality 0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:12.000 from the scheduling standpoint, than probably we need more spots. 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:14.960 And what you're what you just talked about in terms 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:17.919 of what it means financially, you're going from three games 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:22.000 in the college playoff format now to eleven games, the 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:25.159 four play in the quarterfinal games, and then the three 0:04:25.240 --> 0:04:28.840 that we've already got. Maybe not changing who's ultimately going 0:04:28.880 --> 0:04:32.280 to lift the trophy, but certainly give more in the 0:04:32.360 --> 0:04:36.040 world of college football. Bite at the apple. Any downside 0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:41.520 to this, The only thing that I'm sitting here going 0:04:41.880 --> 0:04:46.520 is this a move towards better scheduled games in the 0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:49.600 regular season, and I'm not sure that it does that. 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:53.880 I don't think we've We've now put more onus on, 0:04:54.440 --> 0:04:57.840 you know, the Alabamas of the world to you know, 0:04:58.040 --> 0:05:01.200 travel to Los Angeles to play USC. I think that 0:05:01.400 --> 0:05:03.240 the one off games are still going to be where 0:05:03.279 --> 0:05:06.320 they'll go that money game, like they've got with Miami 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:09.400 to start the season in Atlanta this year. I don't 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:12.720 think we've done anything to force the issue to get 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:16.400 the home and home games going, although there is a 0:05:16.520 --> 0:05:19.640 lot of those on the books in advanced years, so 0:05:20.040 --> 0:05:22.720 fingers crossed that will get there because the college football 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:26.760 fan deserves that. Well, what about Notre Dame. Notre Dame 0:05:27.040 --> 0:05:29.960 is not going to be in the top four, they're 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:33.760 not in a conference here, and yet Jacks Fourbuck was 0:05:33.800 --> 0:05:37.120 on this side. I know they're athletic director. So I 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:40.920 don't like, does this push Notre Dame to join the 0:05:41.000 --> 0:05:46.760 ACC now? And maybe Jacks Fourbuck secretly is hoping that's 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:49.440 exactly what it will do. I mean, you can't have 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:53.520 looked at last year's year the one off time in 0:05:53.600 --> 0:05:57.760 the ADC and say that that was unsuccessful for Notre Dame. 0:05:58.360 --> 0:06:01.000 That was absolutely a great here for Notre Dame and 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:03.200 the fact that they were in that league I think 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:07.960 helped them get to a place where they were going 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:10.320 to be part of the college football playoffs. They were 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:13.200 absolutely going to be there. And you know, to play 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:16.640 an ACC schedule, a Power five schedule, I think help 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:19.560 them in some ways. Now I know they've got a 0:06:20.040 --> 0:06:22.599 you know, a modus operandi where they want to travel 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:25.160 far and wide, you know, touch each portion of the 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:30.120 country in the Notre Dame mission, But ultimately maybe this 0:06:30.440 --> 0:06:33.000 is exactly what pushes them over the edge and gets 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:36.720 them in the ACC. And I know that we have 0:06:36.839 --> 0:06:39.400 a lot of blowouts. There's going to be blowouts because 0:06:39.480 --> 0:06:43.400 there's a big difference between Clemson, Alabama and Indiana or 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:47.360 Coastal Carolina. Are you okay with that that, you know, 0:06:47.480 --> 0:06:50.160 the optics of this is going to be all, you 0:06:50.240 --> 0:06:52.880 know what, why are we having these games? These are 0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:57.960 blowouts and kind of embarrassing the playoffs. I well, I'm 0:06:58.080 --> 0:07:01.120 first of all, I'm thrilled that we've you know, now 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:04.880 got a surety that the group of five is going 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:07.880 to be included at least one group of five champion 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:11.040 will be in the hunt for this and to start 0:07:11.120 --> 0:07:13.360 college football seasons as we have in the past with 0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:18.000 really no chance, zero chance. As Dean Wormers this one said, 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:23.440 zero point zero. When you have a season that starts 0:07:23.480 --> 0:07:26.560 that way, something's wrong with the system. So now we've 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:29.080 got at least one the potential for two. It should 0:07:30.000 --> 0:07:32.360 a conference champion come from the Power five that wasn't 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:35.920 up to snuff. But ultimately that that's all good news. 0:07:36.400 --> 0:07:39.200 I don't worry so much about those blowout games and 0:07:39.320 --> 0:07:42.000 when great teams, you know, are on the field, that happens. 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:45.520 It happens in the NFL periodically, and it will happen 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:49.160 again in this But I remember back that Georgio Oklahoma 0:07:49.280 --> 0:07:52.000 game in the Rose Bowl, the overtime thriller. I say, 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:55.000 we're going to have more chances at that because what 0:07:55.200 --> 0:07:59.680 will happen over the period of years as this begins, 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:03.080 because there will be more spreading of the great players 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:05.640 and the great talent in the United States. They won't 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:08.360 all just go to the top three places. But knowing 0:08:08.760 --> 0:08:11.000 that there are more chances to get to the playoffs, 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:15.600 maybe closer to home. Yeah, I liken it to Gonzaga 0:08:15.920 --> 0:08:19.040 because Gonzaga used to be a novelty in basketball, and 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:21.120 you know, they would be like, oh, that's a cute 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:24.800 story Gonzaga. Now Gonzaga is getting some of the top 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:27.360 recruits in the country, and a lot of that is 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:30.880 is they got an opportunity. If the field was thirty 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:33.880 two as it used to be a long, long time ago, 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:36.360 you would have a lot of these programs who would 0:08:36.440 --> 0:08:41.000 never get this opportunity to grow their program. Indiana being 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:43.800 on a national stage with their football program, I thought 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:47.120 I would never see that in my lifetime. Coastal Carolina, 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:50.800 you know, they would make the playoffs, and I like that. 0:08:50.880 --> 0:08:55.080 It gives you an opportunity to be seen by more 0:08:55.200 --> 0:08:58.640 people because we wouldn't have seen the Indiana story this year, 0:08:58.800 --> 0:09:03.000 or Coastal Carolina. Boise State wouldn't exist, you know. I 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:06.040 think having that opportunity where you get to play against 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:10.480 the big boys, and you know, that opportunity for players 0:09:10.559 --> 0:09:14.000 to see or recruits to see you play, I think 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:16.719 it's a benefit for these smaller schools that would not 0:09:17.000 --> 0:09:20.160 be They would be dwarfed by Alabama and Clemson. And 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:22.480 they may still be, but you just want to be 0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:24.960 in the conversation. That's it. Give me a seat at 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:27.240 the table. It can be a bad seat. It can 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:29.800 be an obstructive view. Just give me a seat at 0:09:29.840 --> 0:09:34.040 the table. Your Gonzaga an example is a perfect one. 0:09:34.320 --> 0:09:39.360 Butler is another example. Right the Gordon Haywood shot off 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:43.040 the glass that you know everybody's still gasping wondering how 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:46.240 it didn't go in those moments. Now can be part 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:48.600 of college football. You know, I don't know that we're 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:51.559 going to see an Appalachian State knockoff Michigan in the 0:09:52.679 --> 0:09:55.600 College Football Playoff as we did in the Big House, 0:09:56.000 --> 0:10:00.480 but it's possible. And now when you have that ability 0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:02.240 and you can sit down in a living room and 0:10:02.440 --> 0:10:05.719 talk about that possibility, it's much easier for that young 0:10:05.800 --> 0:10:07.560 man to say, you know what, I'm going to stay 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:10.440 close to home here in Boone, North Carolina, or here 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:14.920 or in Cincinnati, Ohio, or Boise, Idaho, and I'm going 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:16.960 to be a part of this program because I don't 0:10:17.000 --> 0:10:18.480 want to take to be the one first ones to 0:10:18.520 --> 0:10:20.439 take them to the college Football Playoff. That's going to 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:23.920 be exciting for those particular brands. Rick, We're sorry we 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:25.959 let you down. You did a great song for the 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:30.599 Emmy Night and we're losers. I mean it was it 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:34.160 was a powerful, powerful song that you gave us and 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:37.679 maybe you could win a Grammy before we win an Emmy. 0:10:37.800 --> 0:10:40.640 But I just want to thank you again for putting 0:10:40.720 --> 0:10:45.920 that together. I love the Dan Patrick Show. I know 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:48.480 I speak for millions when I say that, and your 0:10:48.559 --> 0:10:52.200 day's coming, you too will be the Susan Lucci who 0:10:52.200 --> 0:10:57.360 will finally climbed the final step and on the giant child. 0:10:57.640 --> 0:11:00.560 Thank you, Ray, thank you, We appreciate it. Great weekend. 0:11:00.559 --> 0:11:05.360 That's Rick Neuheisel, CBS Sports College Football Analyst. You know 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:07.120 what it might be. I just don't want it to 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:09.480 be posthumously where they give me kind of a career 0:11:09.520 --> 0:11:13.240 achievement Sports Emmy. You know that would be bad, but 0:11:13.400 --> 0:11:16.079 that that might be where we're headed. Like I have 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:19.920 to do a role like Leonardo did with Revenant, where 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:24.280 maybe it's not my best acting, but maybe the academy 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:28.120 will just go. You know, God, that guy seems so desperate. 0:11:28.720 --> 0:11:32.680 It's so sad, Like if I'm maybe we could play 0:11:32.679 --> 0:11:35.080 a sympathy card if I lost one of the Danettes, right, 0:11:35.320 --> 0:11:37.840 you know, Oh, something bad happened to one of us. 0:11:37.840 --> 0:11:41.120 It's not something terrible, but well, losing us it's pretty 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:44.040 terrible of it think I lose means you're you're no 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:46.920 longer alive. Oh no, no, I can't lose you lose you. 0:11:47.200 --> 0:11:48.520 Oh so one of us got hit, Like if I 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:51.080 got hit by a bus and I'm out for eight months, Yeah, 0:11:51.360 --> 0:11:54.559 you would certain power through. I think we'd get a 0:11:54.600 --> 0:11:56.760 lot of attention. But how much of the Emmy reel 0:11:56.800 --> 0:12:00.559 would that really be? That's a lead you lead, I 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:03.560 don't think you do. I don't lead with Paulie getting 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:05.240 hit by a bus. I want to say it's like 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:11.800 about four minutes. Third segment in really all right? Maybe 0:12:11.960 --> 0:12:13.680 end with it sympathy. There's got to be a couple 0:12:13.679 --> 0:12:16.760 of people that like me because looking back on you know, 0:12:16.920 --> 0:12:19.280 we we I think you could send in what four 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:21.760 segments of a show? I think you get five tall 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:25.520 clips in A portion has to be under ten minutes. 0:12:25.679 --> 0:12:27.800 So we did how many shows last year? How many 0:12:27.880 --> 0:12:31.440 minutes of radio and TV? Last twenty five shows? Three 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:37.240 hours a day? You're looking at yea seven hundred hours? Okay, seven? 0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:39.640 I say so, so you got to pair that down 0:12:39.800 --> 0:12:43.000 five thousand minutes. Yeah, so we we had to put 0:12:43.040 --> 0:12:44.920 it all together, and then we got some segments and 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:47.880 then and then that's it. That's what you're judged upon. 0:12:48.360 --> 0:12:50.520 And I think we had Russell Wilson with what he 0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:54.360 you know, acknowledged to us was on there. We also 0:12:54.679 --> 0:12:56.599 when I broke the story that the Big Ten and 0:12:56.679 --> 0:12:59.040 the Pac twelve we're not going to play college football 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:02.199 this past season. I don't know what else we put 0:13:02.280 --> 0:13:06.840 in there, probably poably getting stiff armed by somebody at 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:09.480 the Super Bowl or something silly. I don't think, yeah, 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:12.360 pie to the face. Some of those things the important 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:15.199 things that you've come to expect here on this program. Uh, 0:13:15.360 --> 0:13:17.360 let me see, let me get to Chris and South Carolina. 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:19.080 Then we'll take a break. Hey Chris, what's on your 0:13:19.120 --> 0:13:23.440 mind today? Hey Dan, Chris five ten one ninety long 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:27.559 time listener, chime in or a college football playoff expanse. 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:30.120 And you have to remember, in my opinion, why we 0:13:30.200 --> 0:13:34.720 got to this point was because the college football powers. 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:38.560 We're not really happy overall the n SEC consecutives run 0:13:38.800 --> 0:13:42.040 the championship. But what broke the back was the title 0:13:42.120 --> 0:13:44.960 game with LSU and Alabama. And that's where we are. 0:13:45.120 --> 0:13:48.040 We while we're at the point we are now. The 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:51.640 system now though, is really in my opinion, detrimental college 0:13:51.640 --> 0:13:54.959 foot all the piggyback when you're prior moment, because these 0:13:55.040 --> 0:13:56.760 kids want to go to the top three or four 0:13:56.880 --> 0:13:59.800 schools and I'm gonna I'm gonna single out in ACC 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:03.040 year that is Liston has had the easiest path of 0:14:03.200 --> 0:14:08.079 any college team in this system is being created. That 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:10.319 I mean Notre Dame. If you look for example, last 0:14:10.400 --> 0:14:13.440 year came through and flew through the ACC schedule. Notre 0:14:13.520 --> 0:14:16.200 Dame schedule will be easier in a cop if they 0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:18.719 joined the ACC, then it would be in their independent 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:22.040 mixture that they have now. And I feel like this 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:24.400 would be great. It would get postal teams like I 0:14:24.520 --> 0:14:27.360 know you're a big postal Jamie Chadwell fan, a shot 0:14:27.960 --> 0:14:30.240 where these little schools everyone would have had a shot 0:14:30.440 --> 0:14:32.720 in the past. But what do you think it could 0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:36.520 expand even more seasons? All right? I don't know. I mean, 0:14:36.560 --> 0:14:39.120 I hope not right now. I just think they need 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:42.320 to fine tune it. You know, everybody's all in on expansion, 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:45.800 more teams. There's more money. Where's this money go to? 0:14:46.840 --> 0:14:48.960 How many teams? There's no limit on how many teams 0:14:49.040 --> 0:14:50.960 from your conference can be in the top twelve. You 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:53.560 could have four teams in the SEC. Five teams in 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:58.160 the SEC that qualify for this is Notre Dame gonna 0:14:58.200 --> 0:15:01.680 have to join the ACC. The fact that Notre Dame, 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:03.680 no matter where it's ranked, can't be one of the 0:15:03.760 --> 0:15:07.600 top four seeds. So there's there's other things to work 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:10.640 out here. But I think we're we always love more. 0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:15.400 More is not always better. But if it's done right, 0:15:15.840 --> 0:15:20.760 then okay. But this still has to be vetted out 0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:22.680 a little bit here, and they have a couple of 0:15:22.760 --> 0:15:25.040 years to kind of fine tune it there. Let's take 0:15:25.080 --> 0:15:26.880 a break here. Mike Floria is going to join us. 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:29.240 I want to know where do we stand in Green 0:15:29.280 --> 0:15:32.520 Bay with Aaron Rodgers, you know, with the mandatory workouts 0:15:32.600 --> 0:15:36.440 over now, what happens, what's the next step and who 0:15:36.520 --> 0:15:40.440 blinks first? 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Be sure to 0:16:14.600 --> 0:16:17.520 catch us live every weekday morning nine until noon eastern 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:20.400 six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and you 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:24.200 can find us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR or 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:27.280 stream us live on the Peacock app. We'll check in 0:16:27.400 --> 0:16:31.640 with Mike Florio from Pro Football Talk. Yesterday you were 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:34.720 with us in the final hour, We had a conversation 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:39.320 with Cameron Kinley, a defensive back at the Naval Academy. 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:44.040 He was the valedictorian, gave the commencement speech. He is 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:47.440 trying to play football in the NFL. He still will 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:50.200 honor his military commitment. But he had a chance to 0:16:50.480 --> 0:16:53.360 try out for the Champa Bay Buccaneers. But there is 0:16:53.440 --> 0:16:56.560 a rule in place that allows you to be able 0:16:56.640 --> 0:17:00.680 to defer your military commitment, but it's a case by 0:17:00.760 --> 0:17:05.439 case basis. And Cameron Kinley, who maybe had an outside 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:07.960 chance of making the team as a fifth defensive back, 0:17:08.320 --> 0:17:11.840 he did get an invite, and he was told by 0:17:12.640 --> 0:17:16.800 the Naval Academy that he can't and there's no appeal process. 0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:20.040 I reached out to the NFL Players Association. I did 0:17:20.119 --> 0:17:23.040 not hear back yesterday. I just wanted to know if 0:17:23.800 --> 0:17:25.840 they can pick up the crusade and maybe get him 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:28.880 an opportunity. Now, from what I'm told, the NFL Player 0:17:28.920 --> 0:17:32.160 Association is getting involved in this case. But this comes 0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:35.880 down to, you know, the Secretary of Defense is going 0:17:35.960 --> 0:17:38.320 to make this call, like when you go up the 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:42.159 food chain. You're going up there, and then that Secretary 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:43.920 of Defense is the one who's going to be able 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:47.760 to say yes or no, and there's no appeal process whatsoever. 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:53.000 Speaking of appealing, Mike Florio Pro Football Talk Live, Cohn 0:17:53.200 --> 0:17:55.919 s Mike, that's how you get nominated for a sports 0:17:55.960 --> 0:17:59.520 EMI segue like that, not win one, but get nominated. 0:18:00.920 --> 0:18:03.960 Well that's good, and yeah, hey, you know on what 0:18:04.080 --> 0:18:06.040 you were just saying, Dan, This issue comes up all 0:18:06.080 --> 0:18:09.000 the time. I just wish they would have one rule 0:18:09.520 --> 0:18:13.080 that applies to all service academies and stick with it, 0:18:13.560 --> 0:18:16.200 because it seems like every year it's a different twist. 0:18:16.480 --> 0:18:19.119 They're allowed to they're not allowed to. I mean, if 0:18:19.160 --> 0:18:21.920 I'm Army or air Force, this is a great recruiting 0:18:22.200 --> 0:18:26.760 poster for me. Hey, come to this service academy. We'll 0:18:26.920 --> 0:18:29.840 let you potentially play in the NFL, unless, of course, 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:32.160 we change our mind for years from now, which is possible. 0:18:32.160 --> 0:18:33.840 So maybe we all mentioned that. I think you just 0:18:33.920 --> 0:18:35.600 need to have one rule, needs to be the same, 0:18:35.680 --> 0:18:38.080 needs to be fair to these guys. Even then, you know, 0:18:38.280 --> 0:18:40.440 going in, am I going to have the chance or 0:18:40.520 --> 0:18:42.800 not have the chance if my football career works out. 0:18:43.280 --> 0:18:46.760 I think every roster should have one extra roster spot 0:18:47.400 --> 0:18:52.159 for a military graduate. I can get behind that. I 0:18:52.280 --> 0:18:56.280 guess I don't know. I guess, well, you're an American 0:18:56.320 --> 0:19:00.960 if you're not going to get behind that money. Mike 0:19:01.080 --> 0:19:08.800 Florial on American Wow. I just look, there was once 0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:10.840 a time when the best football players ended up at 0:19:10.840 --> 0:19:13.720 the service attack, but the world has changed so much 0:19:13.800 --> 0:19:17.000 that the sport of pro football has changed so much. 0:19:17.240 --> 0:19:18.680 The way it works out is the best of the 0:19:18.760 --> 0:19:23.200 best end up at Alabama, Clemson, ar Ohio State, and 0:19:23.720 --> 0:19:26.199 everybody else is just trying to get whatever scraps they 0:19:26.240 --> 0:19:31.840 can find. So I look, it would not be something 0:19:32.720 --> 0:19:36.520 that contradicts the overt efforts by the NFL to cater 0:19:37.000 --> 0:19:39.119 to the military, so it wouldn't surprise me if the 0:19:39.200 --> 0:19:42.000 NFL did. All right, let's get to the serious stuff here. 0:19:42.560 --> 0:19:45.119 It feels like there's some Jedi mind games being played 0:19:45.359 --> 0:19:49.200 by the Packers and Aaron Rodgers, or certainly Aaron Rodgers here. 0:19:49.800 --> 0:19:52.680 And I want you to paraphrase what you put on 0:19:52.840 --> 0:19:57.959 Pro Football Talk, because I don't know if Aaron Rodgers 0:19:58.119 --> 0:19:59.720 is like, I'm not going to be painted as a 0:19:59.720 --> 0:20:01.959 bad guy, where the Packers are trying to paint him 0:20:01.960 --> 0:20:05.000 as a bad guy. Okay, what happened? Like, what's the 0:20:05.119 --> 0:20:08.480 end result with all of this, Mike, It's whatever Aaron 0:20:08.600 --> 0:20:11.119 Rodgers wants it to be. And I think whatever happens, 0:20:11.200 --> 0:20:13.240 he's going to act like it's what he wanted. So 0:20:13.720 --> 0:20:15.040 I think it's one of the reasons why he's not 0:20:15.080 --> 0:20:17.680 telling anybody what he really wants. But when he talks 0:20:17.720 --> 0:20:21.080 to guys like James Jones, who he knows will turn 0:20:21.119 --> 0:20:24.840 around and appear on radio and TV and say what 0:20:25.000 --> 0:20:28.640 he's allowed to say, what Aaron Rodgers authorizes him to say, 0:20:28.960 --> 0:20:32.600 and James Jones says the situation is fixable. I think 0:20:32.640 --> 0:20:36.360 Aaron Rodgers wants Packers fans to say to the Packers, 0:20:37.280 --> 0:20:40.080 why haven't you fixed it? Aaron says, it's fixable, why 0:20:40.119 --> 0:20:44.240 haven't you fixed it? And when Mark Murphy, the team CEO, 0:20:44.840 --> 0:20:48.240 not even in response to a question about Aaron Rodders, 0:20:48.440 --> 0:20:50.600 just kind of gratuitously in a written colleg where in 0:20:50.680 --> 0:20:52.320 a chance to write it and read it and read it, 0:20:52.440 --> 0:20:54.520 be sure it's what he wanted to say, says that 0:20:54.640 --> 0:20:57.920 this situation is dividing our fan base. That's his way 0:20:58.520 --> 0:21:03.240 of letting Rodgers know your worst case scenario of becoming 0:21:03.280 --> 0:21:06.960 a pariah among Packers fans is coming to fruition. So 0:21:07.119 --> 0:21:10.399 it is high level pr games being played between these 0:21:10.440 --> 0:21:13.040 two souths. Rogers want the Packers to be to blame. 0:21:13.480 --> 0:21:15.840 The Packers want Rodgers to be to blame. And if 0:21:15.880 --> 0:21:18.359 he just got a show out for training camp, I'd 0:21:18.359 --> 0:21:21.280 say most fans of the team, because they always fall 0:21:21.359 --> 0:21:23.800 in line behind the laundry, most fans of the team 0:21:23.840 --> 0:21:26.960 are going to say, you're under contract, you should be. Yeah, 0:21:27.000 --> 0:21:29.400 I'm just trying to understand it. What point does Aaron 0:21:29.480 --> 0:21:32.800 Rodgers say, Now, if I'm going to a new team, 0:21:32.960 --> 0:21:36.240 I better get there soon. And if the Packers realize 0:21:36.280 --> 0:21:38.520 he doesn't want to be there, then when do you 0:21:38.640 --> 0:21:40.840 move on? And what do you get? And are you 0:21:40.920 --> 0:21:43.760 comfortable with Jordan Love being your starter? Like the clock 0:21:43.960 --> 0:21:46.680 is ticking here, Mike, for both of these sides, and 0:21:46.840 --> 0:21:49.800 who's going to blink first? You know, Dan, I've said 0:21:49.800 --> 0:21:51.520 a couple of times over the past week or two, 0:21:51.560 --> 0:21:53.720 it's better for the Packers at this point to go 0:21:53.760 --> 0:21:56.359 ahead and wait until after the season to trade. And 0:21:56.400 --> 0:21:58.200 because if you trade it now, you get in twenty 0:21:58.280 --> 0:22:01.119 twenty two kicks anywhere. Go ahead and wait till you 0:22:01.119 --> 0:22:03.000 get ten teams at the table. Now you would have 0:22:03.040 --> 0:22:04.800