1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: To Teas in a pod with Teddy Mellencamp and cam 2 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: Ridge Edge. 3 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 2: Hi, Stacy, Hi, First of all, thank you so much 4 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 2: for joining me today. 5 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 3: I know Teddy would have loved to be here to 6 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 3: talk to. 7 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 4: You, and I'm thinking of her and praying for her. 8 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 5: Thank you, just really hoping for the best for her 9 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 5: and her family. I'm following along just like everyone, so 10 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 5: sending prayers to her as much as I can. 11 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 3: Thank you. All the prayers are needed, please everybody. 12 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 4: Amen? 13 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 2: Yes, So, how let's just before we get into the 14 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 2: TJ of it all, let's just talk about this season 15 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 2: a little bit. Sure, how are you feeling now that 16 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 2: the season is over? 17 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 5: You know, this has been a wild ride, Like think 18 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 5: about your first season as a housewife. 19 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 4: For sure, you know you're having a lot of fun. 20 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 5: You're learning a lot, not only about the dynamics within 21 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 5: the group of each individual woman, but you're also you know, 22 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 5: learning about yourself. I feel like I've grown up a 23 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 5: lot one season. I know that's like quite dramatic, but no. 24 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 4: That's that's all I feel. 25 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 2: But that's good because I always say there's two types 26 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 2: of housewives. There's housewives to watch themselves and go. 27 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:33,559 Speaker 3: Ah, damn. 28 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 2: I don't really like that part of me, and I'm 29 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 2: going to change it. And there's other ones that just 30 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 2: don't even see it. So if you're growing from it, 31 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 2: that's a positive. 32 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 4: I'm I'm definitely growing from this experience. 33 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 2: Now you came from QVC prior, as I'm sure there's 34 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 2: a huge difference between QVC and Housewives. 35 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, it's so different. 36 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 5: Like QVC is you know, the epitome of working at Disneyland, 37 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 5: you know, like we And when I say we, I'll 38 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 5: say that because I used to be a part of 39 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 5: the host team. 40 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 4: But it really is about like spreading love. 41 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 5: And joy and helping people with products that can improve 42 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 5: their lives. And there's preparation and you're studying, and you 43 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 5: want to make sure that you know, you're connecting to 44 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 5: the viewers. It's a it's emotional work and I feel 45 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 5: like with the Housewives it's also emotional work, but in 46 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 5: a completely different way. 47 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 4: And the perks way unprepared. You're totally unprepared. 48 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 5: There's nothing to study there. It's impossible. You just have 49 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 5: to be yourself and sort of ride the way. 50 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, did you leave QVC to do Housewives. 51 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 3: Or were you already done with QVC. 52 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 5: So when I decided to leave QVC, it was primarily 53 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 5: because I was going through a divorce. 54 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 4: No one knew. I'm a very private person, says the 55 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 4: person on reality TV. But I didn't tell anyone about 56 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 4: my divorce. And so. 57 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 5: At the time, I knew that I wanted to come 58 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 5: back to the DC area because my daughter needed that. 59 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 5: It was a really big transition for us to be 60 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 5: living in Philly because when I was working for QVC, 61 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 5: we had to live in Philadelphia. So I knew that 62 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 5: my daughter needed to be home. I knew that my 63 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 5: daughter needed to be. 64 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 4: Surrounded by friends and family. 65 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 5: So it was almost as if, you know, God made 66 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 5: it so that it was perfect timing and gave me 67 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 5: this opportunity to come home and start the show. So 68 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 5: my daughter got to come home, I could finish things 69 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 5: with my divorce and then start this incredible journey on 70 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 5: this crazy show. 71 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 3: How did you get cast for Housewives? 72 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 5: So I was cast by a wonderful man. But there 73 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 5: was a casting agent that I've known four years. I've 74 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 5: known him for about five or six years and we've 75 00:03:56,120 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 5: always kept in touch. And like I said, I don't know. 76 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 5: It was divine timing. He called me and said, hey, 77 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 5: you know, how are things going with you? 78 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 4: Like what are you doing? 79 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 5: And I was like, oh my gosh, this is happening. 80 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 5: This is happening. And he was like, stop, you got 81 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 5: to come on the show. 82 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 3: And how did you know? Did you know any of 83 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 3: the housewives? 84 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 4: Yes? Yes, you know. 85 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 5: You know, DC is really small, especially when you talk 86 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 5: about the social circle that I'm in, So I had 87 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 5: met a lot of the women. 88 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 4: Just socially at parties. 89 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 5: I had already met Ashley and Giselle and Wendy. Wendy 90 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 5: and I served together on a board for a charitable organization, 91 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 5: so I knew a lot of the ladies socially. I 92 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 5: knew a casting agent. It was just it was a 93 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 5: very easy transition for me. I think a lot of 94 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 5: people say that, a lot of people are like, wow, 95 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 5: it just seems like you're such a great fit. 96 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 4: I think because it was the perfect time, the combination of. 97 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 5: Knowing a little bit about the ladies, but not like 98 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 5: knowing everything you know, So it was just perfect. 99 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 2: So now, looking back, you had said that Karen reached 100 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 2: out to you to meet you before you started filming, 101 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 2: do you think she did that to steer you in 102 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 2: certain directions or what was your thought on that. 103 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 5: Well, I think it's apparent now having watched the finale episode, 104 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 5: that that's something that she does with a lot of newbies. 105 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 5: So I think she was just taking me out to 106 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 5: welcome me into the group and to talk about things. 107 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 5: As I've said, Karen and I have known each other 108 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 5: for years. I wouldn't say that we were best friends 109 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 5: and we were going out every Friday night for drinks, 110 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 5: but we've known each other for years. 111 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 4: So we decided to get together. 112 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 5: She invited me, and she told me what to expect 113 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 5: from the ladies in the group, or maybe those were 114 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 5: her expectations, but that's something that she does with all 115 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 5: the new girls, So I don't think that that was 116 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 5: Looking back, I think I was one of many newbies 117 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 5: to make it to the tally ho. 118 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 4: You know, having lunch. 119 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 3: That's funny. She takes them all there. 120 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 2: Now, I'm gonna tell you this, I see a spark 121 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 2: in your eye every once in a while. Usually you're 122 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 2: very sweet and very kind, but I'm like, oh, Stacy's 123 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 2: gonna snap. She has it in her. She has it 124 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 2: in her, and you did a few times. Now, are 125 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 2: do you think you are the same person on camera 126 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 2: as you are off camera? Did you try to play 127 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 2: it safe when you came in there was rumors that 128 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 2: you were boring and not tough enough to be a housewife. 129 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 2: And I'm like, uh ah, I see it in her. 130 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 4: I'm at heart. 131 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 5: I am a very kind and loving and compassionate person. 132 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 5: I've said this many times. My life speaks for itself. 133 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 5: I taught yoga for seven years. I've taught all over 134 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 5: the world. 135 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 4: I serve on. 136 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 5: Many organizations to help animals, dogs and people. 137 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 4: I am who I am, right, Yeah. 138 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 5: However, I'm a human being. And you can only laugh 139 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 5: it off and take the jabs and die the jabs 140 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:21,119 Speaker 5: so much, and you have to at some point speak 141 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 5: up for yourself. And so you know, people are like, 142 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 5: oh my goodness, I thought that you are so prim 143 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 5: and proper. I can't believe that you're raising your voice. 144 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 5: I can only take so much. I'm a human being. 145 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 5: And I also think this is my first season. You know, like, 146 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 5: people don't know me. In one season, You're getting to 147 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 5: know me, and you're gonna get to see different sides 148 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 5: of me. This is just the beginning. So when I 149 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 5: get upset, it's because you have pushed me there. I'm 150 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:50,559 Speaker 5: always here. 151 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 2: But if you know, I will absolutely agree, You're not 152 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 2: the person that's going to laughter somebody for no no, 153 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 2: some reason. 154 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 3: If you get pushed, you're going to push right back. 155 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 4: At some point. I'm a human being. I have to 156 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 4: take up for myself. I do have self respect. 157 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 5: For God's sake, you can only take so much, even 158 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 5: as the nice girl. 159 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, how did you reach out to Karen after she 160 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 2: went to court? 161 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 4: I didn't. 162 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys are not on good terms. I take it. 163 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 5: You know, honestly, when you think about the entire season 164 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 5: and all the things that happened with Karen, we did 165 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 5: not end in a good place. But I have a 166 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 5: tremendous amount of respect for Karen and who she is 167 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 5: and the legacy that she has begun to build in 168 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 5: our community beyond Housewives and our community, and with her family. 169 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 4: There's a lot of things that I know about. 170 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 5: So at this time, despite where we are, I just 171 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 5: want the best for her. 172 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 4: I sincerely want her to. 173 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 5: Heal and get well, and I want her to come 174 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 5: back stronger than ever, because that is what I would 175 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 5: expect from the Grandame. It doesn't matter where we ended 176 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 5: at the season. As of today, I'm standing behind her 177 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 5: to get back to the phenomenal woman I know her 178 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 5: to be. 179 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 2: So the Grandama has said that she wants to ditch 180 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 2: that title and just go by Karen and get wants 181 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 2: people to know who she is. Now, there's been talk 182 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 2: that you guys will start filming pretty soon, and of 183 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 2: course she will not be in this season. Do you 184 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 2: think that it's going to affect the season at all? 185 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 5: I think that Karen has been a part of the 186 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,439 Speaker 5: Real Housewives of Potomac brand since it's beginning, and that 187 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 5: is commendable and we love her for that. But I 188 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 5: also feel like our brand is strong and it is, 189 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 5: as you know, an ensemble cast, and I think we 190 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 5: have some really wonderful stories that still need to be 191 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 5: told and shared. So I think that while she heals 192 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 5: and she gets back to herself Karen Huger, I think 193 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 5: that we can hold down the fort YEP. 194 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 3: I think you can. 195 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 4: I think. 196 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 2: So let's talk about the reunion. So this was your 197 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:31,119 Speaker 2: first reunion. You guys all looked beautiful. 198 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 3: I do. I did like it was amazing. 199 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 2: Favorite of course, you of course, know, you guys all 200 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 2: look beautiful. 201 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 3: There was a lot of boobs. There was a lot 202 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 3: of boobs. 203 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna a lot of Like I just felt 204 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 2: like I needed to push them down a little bit, Like. 205 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 4: It was like bring them out, bring them out. 206 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, some of y'all looked really uncomfortable, like sitting on 207 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 2: the beads and you know the type. 208 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 4: Something really funny. 209 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: M hm. 210 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 4: So do you remember when and Andy wanted to show 211 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 4: me the video? Oh, yes, I do, a tj y and. 212 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 5: We were all I was we were laughing a little 213 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 5: bit after. You know, you can always find laughter even 214 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 5: in the worst moments. But I was saying I couldn't 215 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 5: even get up to sit next to him to look 216 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 5: at the video because I was so snatched. 217 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 4: You know, with the corset and the dress. 218 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 5: So we were all laughing that we all like were 219 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 5: glued to our seats because we couldn't move. 220 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 3: Well, it looked like that, say, you guys are beautiful. 221 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 3: It looked really uncomfortable. 222 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 5: Even if I wanted to run off the stage, like 223 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 5: it was impossible. 224 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 4: Girl, I was like glued to that seat. So we 225 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 4: were just laughing about that. 226 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 3: Oh, bless your hearts because I could never do that. 227 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 4: I've done like on my. 228 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 5: Skin from the corset, I could show you that I 229 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 5: still have marks, and that was filmed months ago where 230 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 5: it was made of wire flowers. 231 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 4: So it cut into my skin. Oh my god, for 232 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:56,719 Speaker 4: that reunion. 233 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 3: Oh yes you did, You're still bleeding, I think. 234 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, let's talk about your best friend TJ. 235 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 2: Sure, Andy did play you the tape showing TJ accusing 236 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 2: you of paying him to be love interest on the show? 237 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 3: Is there any truth to this? 238 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: Like? 239 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 3: How where did he come up with us? 240 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 2: A lot of people are not believing you and thinking 241 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 2: that it's absolutely true that you paid him. He is 242 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 2: a working actor. Did he get confused somehow, thinking like 243 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 2: you're gonna bring me on and somehow you're gonna pay me? 244 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 4: You know, I'm I'm okay with not everyone believing me. 245 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 4: That's life. 246 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 5: I'm never I didn't come on this show to win 247 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 5: people over or to have people on my side, or 248 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 5: to be the most popular. I understand that life happens 249 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 5: and everyone's going to have an opinion, especially on a 250 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 5: platform like this, And I don't want to bash TJ 251 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 5: despite what he did and that he betrayed me in 252 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 5: a way that greatly affected me in a way that 253 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 5: I've never been affected in my life. I have not 254 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 5: paid TJ to be my boyfriend in any way. And 255 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 5: when I say boyfriend, I'll say love interest. I know 256 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,959 Speaker 5: that on the show we called him my best friend, 257 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 5: and everyone laughed at that and made fun of it. Listen, 258 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 5: I've prayed with this man. He brought me closer to 259 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 5: God through his faith, and through his profound faith, I 260 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 5: guess I should say I've prayed with him. He's met 261 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 5: members of my family. We've spent quite a few intense 262 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 5: moments together. And this is someone who I had a 263 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 5: deep connection with. This is someone who I. 264 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 4: Never spoke ill of. 265 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 5: I've only said the positive things and the positive blessings 266 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 5: that he brought to my life. And I didn't do 267 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,839 Speaker 5: that because I was following a script. I didn't do 268 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 5: that because I'm a liar or I'm a fraud. I 269 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 5: spoke highly of him because that is who I thought 270 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 5: he was. 271 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 4: So when it was brought to my. 272 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 5: Attention in front of the world that he said that 273 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 5: I paid him, knowing that he knew what that would 274 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 5: imply about me, right, knowing that he said that, knowing 275 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 5: that it would hurt me, knowing that I'm going to 276 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 5: have to, you know, defend this and come on and explain. 277 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 2: Why does he want to hurt you? That's what I understand. 278 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 2: Why would he want to hurt you if he's your 279 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 2: best friend. 280 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 4: I think that it was. 281 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 5: I think it was really difficult for him to see 282 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 5: his worst moments and the way that he treated me. 283 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 5: I think it was really hard. He was very upset 284 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 5: with production and the way that he was. He feels 285 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 5: he was portrayed. I think a lot of things that 286 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 5: were said about his behavior at Wendy's birthday party. There 287 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 5: were just a lot of things that he did that 288 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 5: were disrespectful, and I think a lot of people saw 289 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 5: that and they wanted to defend me, and he read 290 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 5: those comments. He saw it too, and quite frankly, I 291 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 5: think it was a lot for him, and I think 292 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 5: that the only way to make that go away after 293 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 5: we broke up was to say it wasn't real. 294 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 4: I also think, you know, I hate to. 295 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 5: I don't want to ever be the type of person 296 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 5: that says like, well you didn't see this moment or 297 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 5: production did this. Like I accept that my job is 298 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 5: to allow reality to play out and you know this right, 299 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 5: But what you didn't see. There was a moment when 300 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 5: I was with the girls on stage and I said, 301 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 5: you know, Andy said, TJ's not here. 302 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 4: Why is he not here? 303 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 5: I said, well, we broke up. He said, oh, so 304 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 5: you broke up with TJ. You're divorced. 305 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 4: I said, you know what. Yeah, And it feels good 306 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 4: to stand on my own. It feels good to be here, 307 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 4: Justice Dacy. I don't need anybody. I'm so confident. 308 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 5: I feel so good, and I just think it's so 309 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 5: ironic when I chose to stand on my own this happened. 310 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 4: I just think I'm not the first or the last 311 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 4: woman that this will happen to. 312 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 5: I think for me, it's quite obvious how this is 313 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 5: playing out. 314 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 3: How long did you know him? 315 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 4: I'm about two years, okay, two two years. 316 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 2: Do you think it's possible that he used you to 317 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 2: get on TV? 318 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 5: A lot of people say that, a lot of people 319 00:16:56,800 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 5: seem to think that I. 320 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 4: Was wanting more of a relationship. 321 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 5: And when I say wanting more of a relationship, I 322 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 5: want to say that our plan together was to try 323 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 5: to be in an intimate relationship after my divorce. 324 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 4: Was final finalized. 325 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 5: That was our plan, and I think I was so 326 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 5: excited about that, and I think he was so excited 327 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 5: to be a part of rhop and be on camera. 328 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 3: Unfortunately, I think so too. 329 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 5: But you don't see things when you're in it. You know, 330 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 5: It's what can I do? No, I get to know 331 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 5: about you. But like for my first season watching the show, 332 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 5: after you filmed for months and they put it all together, 333 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 5: it was hard for me. 334 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 4: There were a lot of things that I forgot. 335 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 5: There were a lot of moments that I had to relive, 336 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,719 Speaker 5: like you know, when I was at Wendy's birthday party 337 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 5: and to see him. 338 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 4: Act that way. 339 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:00,360 Speaker 5: It you know, my mother called me and said, Hey, 340 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 5: is everything okay? 341 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 4: Is this man? What is going on? That was hard 342 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 4: for me? 343 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 3: Was your breakup bad? 344 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 2: Were you guys when you broke up? Were you still talking? 345 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 2: Was it did it get dirty? 346 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 1: Like? 347 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 3: Was there anything? 348 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:24,919 Speaker 1: You know? 349 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 4: And that's what's so surprising for me. No, we ended with. 350 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 5: I thought that we ended things with a mutual respect 351 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 5: for each other. I said that I needed time. He 352 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 5: knew before a lot of other people knew when my 353 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 5: divorce would be final. And I said, you know, I 354 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 5: think you are fantastic, but I just need like a moment, 355 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 5: you know. 356 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 4: I was like, I got to catch my breath. 357 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 5: I moved from Philadelphia, quitting a job that I love 358 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 5: to take care of my daughter. I started the show. 359 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 5: I had to figure out how to find my feet 360 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 5: with these women, the filming schedule, our relationship, a divorce 361 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,479 Speaker 5: from a man that I was married to for sixteen years. 362 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 5: I said to him, you know, I think you're fantastic 363 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 5: and I think there's a future, but I just need to. 364 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 4: Breathe can you give me a moment? 365 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 5: And then he said those things at the reunion. 366 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 4: I was totally caught off guard. 367 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 3: He gave you a moment, and I do think that 368 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 3: he gave me a moment. He gave you a moment. 369 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 2: And he also put suspicion out there that you were 370 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 2: paying him. Now, let me just tell you this. I 371 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 2: did see a lot of comments on Instagram saying that 372 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 2: prior to him saying that, do you think that he 373 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 2: read those and thought, ah, I'm going to bring this up. 374 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 2: Another thing is why did they call him? Do you 375 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 2: think this was planned? 376 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 5: We talked in depth about what people were saying about 377 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 5: the show. 378 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 4: I'm going to keep it completely real with you. 379 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 5: We as soon as the show aired and people started 380 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 5: making comments about him and their perception of the way 381 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 5: that he treated me. He and I looked at comments 382 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 5: and we were like, wow, oh my gosh, this is awful. 383 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 5: And he was furious about the way he thought production 384 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 5: portrayed him. And I said, you know, I don't know 385 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 5: what to say about this. I think that, like, these 386 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 5: are things that happened the camera and our MIC's caught them, 387 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 5: and I think we have to try to work through this. 388 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 5: I don't know that he could work through it. I 389 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 5: think it was that hard for him. I really, I'm 390 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,360 Speaker 5: being honest. I think it was really difficult for him. 391 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 5: And I know people are probably like, why do you 392 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 5: care about him? Why don't you talk about yourself. I'm 393 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 5: just coming to you with truth and trying to give 394 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 5: you an idea of my perspective of the way things 395 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 5: played out. But we were very much aware of what 396 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 5: people were saying. There was a hashtag free Stacy on Twitter, 397 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 5: you know. So there were a lot of things that 398 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 5: happened behind closed doors, and there were a lot of 399 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:21,199 Speaker 5: things that came to light on camera, and it was 400 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 5: hard for me to relive those moments. 401 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 4: It was really difficult. 402 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,959 Speaker 2: I'm sure, especially your first year, you're like, whoa this is? 403 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 3: You know, total shock to the body. 404 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 2: Are you worried that TJ will fabricate or attempt to 405 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 2: show receipts? And if he does do something like that 406 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 2: and you are set in your truth, what will you do? 407 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 5: I can't worry about what he will do. 408 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 3: Do you think he will? 409 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't. I don't I honestly, I 410 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:50,479 Speaker 4: don't know. 411 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 5: I haven't called him since the conversation that we had 412 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 5: after the reunion where he was very remorseful and he 413 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 5: wanted to publicly apologize, and there were a lot of 414 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 5: people that wanted him to do that, and there were 415 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:08,360 Speaker 5: a lot of people who said I would be crazy 416 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 5: to allow him one more moment of camera time. 417 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 2: Quite frankly, would you want him to publicly apologize to you, 418 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 2: even if it's on his social media, to take some 419 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 2: account of ability? 420 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 5: You know what I want for TJ? I want TJ 421 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 5: to have the life that he deserves. 422 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 4: I am so. 423 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 5: Grateful to have had this experience. My daughter is healthy 424 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:39,719 Speaker 5: and well. I am home in Virginia. My life is 425 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 5: so full right now. My best friends were with me 426 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 5: when I was filming watch What Happens Live. I don't 427 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 5: wish ill for TJ. I don't worry about what he's 428 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 5: going to do. It's not my lie to disprove. I 429 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 5: don't have to fix anything. I can stand in my 430 00:22:58,960 --> 00:22:59,959 Speaker 5: truth and who I am. 431 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 4: I am. My life speaks for itself, and my life 432 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 4: is blessed. God is good. I can't worry about other people. 433 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 3: I think I who live like that. 434 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 2: A lot of people do, a lot of people they 435 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 2: do yes, And I would have to say it takes 436 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 2: a really big, strong person to be like, say whatever 437 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 2: you want about me. I don't care because I know 438 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 2: my truth and I don't care what other people are 439 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 2: saying about me. 440 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 3: My husband is like that hundred percent. He's like, I 441 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 3: don't care. Is that their opinion can't matter to me nothing. 442 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 3: I'm getting that. 443 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 2: I'm getting to that point where I'm like, I, you 444 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 2: know what doesn't really bother me what other people think, 445 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 2: especially on this platform, because you could be given away 446 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 2: millions of dollars and doing charities and people will still 447 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 2: find something to pick on you. 448 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 5: I am okay with people believing TJ. I am okay 449 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 5: with people saying, oh, I'm not a fan of hers. 450 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 4: Do you know what I use to concentrate on. 451 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 5: I concentrate on, you know, Opening my phone this morning 452 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 5: and reading message is like, Stacy, You're a breath of 453 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 5: fresh air. 454 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 4: We stand by you. 455 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 5: Stacy. Don't let this stop you. Please come back next 456 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 5: next season. 457 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 4: I love so much fun. 458 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 5: I focus on good. I don't focus on negativity, and 459 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 5: how can I My life isn't like that, and I 460 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 5: have a pretty great life because I have not chosen 461 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 5: to focus on things like that. Well, when you're sometimes 462 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 5: worried about him, I'm not worried about people who don't 463 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,679 Speaker 5: believe me, even people on the show. 464 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 2: You know, I I am the girls, And yeah, the 465 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 2: girls didn't seem to believe you, and I will agree 466 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 2: with that, because when you focus on negativity, negativity comes 467 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 2: into your. 468 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 3: Life and that isn't anything any of us want. But 469 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 3: the girls did not believe you. How did you leave? 470 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: Like? 471 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 4: Are you? 472 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 3: Who are you talking to? Who are you not talking to? 473 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 4: Right now? 474 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 3: On the show? 475 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 5: I've spoken to everyone on the show, and I have 476 00:24:55,200 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 5: had conversations about how to move forward. Some people have 477 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 5: voiced their opinion to say I don't believe you. Some 478 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 5: people have voiced their opinions and said, it doesn't matter. 479 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 5: Everyone feels differently, and I don't want to speak for them. 480 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:17,360 Speaker 4: I think that I'll allow them to speak for themselves. 481 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 5: I won't do that, but I'll say this to you, 482 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 5: as I've said to my friends on the show. If 483 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:28,679 Speaker 5: you choose not to believe me, that's okay. I'm okay 484 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 5: with that. 485 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 4: It's okay. 486 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,199 Speaker 2: That's a good place to be, Stacy, it really is. 487 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 2: Let's switch from TJ because I've had enough of this guy, 488 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 2: and TJ. Do the right thing, buddy, do the right thing. 489 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 2: Let's talk about something that really really pissed me off, 490 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 2: and that was the Miami trip. You went to Miami 491 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:54,959 Speaker 2: to MIA's birthday party, You paid for a hotel, a babysitter, 492 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 2: you paid for a flight, and Mia ghosted you. 493 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 3: Guys crazy, Who does that? I know? 494 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 5: And this is the thing, you know, I am so forgiving, 495 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:15,199 Speaker 5: I am always nice, right mm hmm. For me to 496 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 5: say to me at the reunion, I can't receive this 497 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 5: right now shows. 498 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 4: You how strongly I felt in that moment. 499 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 5: I couldn't even receive what she was saying to me 500 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 5: because it was so obvious that she blatantly ghosted me 501 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 5: and didn't care about me. 502 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:37,199 Speaker 2: I love seeing I love seeing you all redd up. 503 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 3: When you're talking to her about that, I'm. 504 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 2: Like you, I believe I was like hot, you are hot. 505 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 2: That's why I'm like, she's got it in her. Stop 506 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 2: saying she's got it in her. 507 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 5: But only when you do something that I'm a human being. 508 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 5: You can't tread me this way. The nicest like Gandhi 509 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 5: wouldn't be treated this way. 510 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:57,120 Speaker 4: For God's sake. 511 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 2: No, And I'm like, oh my god, if somebody did 512 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,360 Speaker 2: that to me, I would be like, you're done. 513 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 3: I'm done with you. 514 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 1: What. 515 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 4: I don't know if they you know that I've spoken. 516 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 2: To her, Mia, Yes, what were your thoughts on me 517 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 2: and leaving the reunion? I know this was your first one, 518 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 2: but what were the girls saying about it? You know 519 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 2: you're trying to be nice. You're trying to be nice. 520 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 2: I know you have some words in there that you 521 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 2: want to get out. 522 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 4: I feel like you're hip to my game. Girl. You know, 523 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 4: I'm going to take a breath and. 524 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,679 Speaker 3: Think I have I can. I can read people very easy, 525 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 3: very easy. 526 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,479 Speaker 4: You can. I have to be careful with you. 527 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 2: I'm like she wants to say it, and she's trying 528 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 2: to be nice about it. 529 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,439 Speaker 5: Okay, I'm just gonna tell Okay, let me just say this. 530 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 5: After being on the receiving end of a beatdown from 531 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 5: the ladies, I can understand why it was too much 532 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 5: for her and she walked away. 533 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 4: Honestly, I don't think it was right. 534 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 5: I think that, you know, she should have stood there 535 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 5: and defended herself like she did all season when we 536 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 5: would bring things up to her about you know, things 537 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 5: she said, sorry about her children, horrible things that she 538 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 5: said about Giselle's children. In those moments, Mia was like big, 539 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 5: bad gl Amazon. 540 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 4: She stood up, she said how she felt. 541 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 5: But when we all sort of questioned her and her 542 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 5: motives and her behavior, she ran away. Not right, but 543 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 5: I understand, That's all I'm saying. It's tough in this group. 544 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 5: It is really tough when you feel like everyone is 545 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 5: coming down on you. 546 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 4: So I get it. 547 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 5: I called her after the reunion to make sure she 548 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 5: was all right, and she was. 549 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 4: You know how Mia is, She's already moved on to 550 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 4: the next thing. 551 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 3: So Mia running out. 552 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 2: She lied a lot, and I she got caught in 553 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 2: a lot of lies. However, The reason why she ran 554 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 2: out was not because she was lying. It was because 555 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 2: I think it was just Giselle said called. 556 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 3: Her a bad mom or something like that. Mom. I 557 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,719 Speaker 3: didn't like that at all. I would have probably got 558 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 3: up and left too. I don't know if I would 559 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 3: have went. 560 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 2: Home but the lot, but it was a lot, so 561 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 2: you know, I would have been pissed off too. 562 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 5: But that's my point. I understand it. I get it 563 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 5: because I you know, when they gang up on you. 564 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 5: I said this at their reunion. I really, I've never 565 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 5: been in a sorority. Have you been in a sorority? 566 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: No? 567 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 2: God, no, I was had a baby at eighteen. I 568 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 2: want a school of hard knocks. 569 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 4: Well, I've never been in a sorority. 570 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 5: But or this is Hey, the way that I have 571 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 5: been treated on this show is what I would imagine. 572 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 4: Hazing to be. 573 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 5: Well, just you know, it's like we're going to make 574 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,479 Speaker 5: sure we like beat you down before we accept you. 575 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 4: I'll never understand, well because looking for friendships. 576 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 577 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 2: The good thing is is next season we get to 578 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 2: see a different side of you. 579 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 3: I'm sure because you get to know the girls better. 580 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 2: And you know how next season, yeah, I do, and 581 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 2: I just wanted I have fun with it, be yourself 582 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 2: and keep a TJ away. And I just want to 583 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 2: say thank you so much for taking the time to 584 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 2: come on the podcast. You are beautiful, you are lovely, 585 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 2: and like I said, I can't wait to see you 586 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 2: next season. 587 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 5: Okay, thanks honey, thank you for inviting me, and your 588 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 5: beautiful face. 589 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 3: You as well, you as well. Thank you Stacy, thank you. 590 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 4: Bye.