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Speaker 1: This the One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: Welcome into a Friday edition of One Bill's Live. You

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Speaker 2: got the short straw today because Steve Tasker's hosting the show.

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Speaker 3: That's me.

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Speaker 2: I'm joined by my friend of the show, Chris Trpasso,

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Speaker 2: NFL draft player and player analyst. Uh, you've seen him

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Speaker 2: on here before with us. It's good to have you back, Chris.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for being here.

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Speaker 4: It's great to be back, especially ahead of such a

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Speaker 4: huge game within the AFC East. The last couple of years,

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Speaker 4: it's kind of felt like the Bill's Division and then

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Speaker 4: three other teams. But now they're in a real dog

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Speaker 4: fight and I think we have so much to get

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Speaker 4: to today.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we've got absolutely Bob Soshi, they played by play

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Speaker 2: guy from the New England Patriots, gonna join us. And

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Speaker 2: of course, of those who are regular listeners on Fridays,

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Speaker 2: we get Greg Cosel in here at two o'clock. He's

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Speaker 2: gonna come on and we'll chit chat with him about

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Speaker 2: some film study, all good stuff. Don't worry about Chris Brown.

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Speaker 2: He'll be fine for the game on Sunday. He's got

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Speaker 2: some family stuff going on. It's all joyous stuff too.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, he'll be back in the saddle on Sunday

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Speaker 2: and then back here and we'll be back here at

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Speaker 2: noon on Monday for the post game. After this Patriots

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Speaker 2: came interesting stuff though going on around the Latin National

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Speaker 2: Football League, and obviously we can I know most people

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Speaker 2: are probably I guess we should get to the Bill's

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Speaker 2: practice notes right away because who's in and who's out

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Speaker 2: of this game is right at the forefront of everybody's mind.

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Speaker 2: Terrel Bernard, Joey Bosa, Spencer Brown, Josh Palmer. Those are

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Speaker 2: the four guys. They're all limited. They were limited today.

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Speaker 2: I think probably, I don't know which ones, but a

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Speaker 2: is a question mark. He might be a game time.

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Speaker 2: Josh Palmer is I don't know. His injury has been problematic,

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Speaker 2: so I don't know what they're gonna do, and they're

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Speaker 2: still talking to him about week to week. So those

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Speaker 5: Maybe what about Benford?

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Speaker 2: Benford popped up on the injury list yesterday with a toe.

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Speaker 2: That's concerning. You don't want your corner, first cornerback out

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Speaker 2: of the game when you when you're going to play

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Speaker 2: the New England Patriots. But Benford has got to be

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Speaker 2: a huge question mark for the team. He has been

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Speaker 2: an absolute monster the last couple of weeks, has really

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Speaker 2: hurt his toe in practice yesterday, right and you know

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Speaker 2: he's what are you gonna do?

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Speaker 4: And was in a boot yesterday but apparently the boot

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Speaker 4: is gone, but he's not going to practice.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So I don't know. I think he got

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Speaker 2: They were going so intense, but who knows. You know,

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Speaker 2: he could, you know, he gets tangled up with somebody,

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Speaker 2: get a turf toe or something like that. It's it's

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: He was limited in these guys were all those guys

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Speaker 2: Kincaid and Bishop, they continue to be on the injury

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Speaker 5: But no flare ups for kind at all.

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Speaker 2: Kincaid seems to be going full all weekend. Of course,

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Speaker 2: Bishop was dehydrated and got some muscle cramps, couldn't finish

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Speaker 2: the injury list as well. Benford's injury is the one

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Speaker 5: And he just popped up in the middle of the week.

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Speaker 5: What about on the Patriot.

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Speaker 2: He's a problem. He was downgraded. He was limited on

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Speaker 4: Vaderian Lowe is the supposed or primary backup to left

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Speaker 4: tackle Will Camping tackle. He's their swing tackle. Will Campbell,

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Speaker 4: the number three pick in the draft in April, will

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Speaker 5: He's still on injured reserve.

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Speaker 4: So Vaderian Lowe being a little banged up, they're gonna

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Speaker 2: It's like for Bills fans who are trying to put

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Speaker 2: this in perspective, if Dion Dawkins went down and Ryan

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Speaker 2: So you know, that's the That's the shape that the

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Speaker 5: Harold Harold the problem. He's second on the team in

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Speaker 2: That's like Joey Bosa going down for the Bills.

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Speaker 4: He had seven pressures in that first game against the

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Speaker 4: Bills in Week five, he was a terror in that game.

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Speaker 4: So for him to go, like you said, from limited

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Speaker 4: And Robert Splane is really kind of the quarterback of

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Speaker 4: their defense at linebacker. Former Steeler good in coverage. He

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Speaker 4: coverage in Week five. So certainly worth monitoring as those

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Speaker 4: injury reports come out for the Patriots on Friday and

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Speaker 4: then just to see that inactive list and just see

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Speaker 4: how those players ultimately perform if they are active on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this' obl Friday fan mail bag day to do.

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Speaker 2: So if you got questions for me or Chris or whatever,

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Speaker 2: ticketing analytics partner of the Buffalo Bills. Lots going on

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Speaker 2: this week, I mean we're getting into week fifteen. Did

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Speaker 2: you see the game last night between them crazy?

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Speaker 5: They're done fourteen?

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Speaker 2: Todd Bowles wanted to he was it was like the

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Speaker 2: old John McKay thing, what did you feel about the

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Speaker 2: execution of your team? And I'm all for it. They

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Speaker 2: blew at one of the best point lead. They blew

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Speaker 2: a fourteen point lead in the last ten minutes of

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Speaker 2: the game to an inferior Falcons team who got nineteen

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Speaker 2: accepted penalties. Had two fumbles at the end of the

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Speaker 2: game that the Buccaneers just refused to jump on.

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Speaker 4: Did you see the screenshot of the one Kirk Cousins fumble.

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Speaker 4: There are four Buccaneers surrounding the ball. The picture that

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Speaker 4: I saw today on Twitter, there wasn't even the Falcons

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Speaker 4: offensive lineman squeezed through there, all three hundred pounds of

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Speaker 4: him to secure that fumble. A few plays later, the

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Speaker 4: Falcons ultimately kicked the game winning fiegal to win.

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Speaker 2: It was unbelievable. Todd Bowles was beside himself with an

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Speaker 2: expletive post game media interview. His postgame comments were just

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Speaker 2: sprinkled with swear words. He was hot.

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Speaker 5: They're out of first place, yes.

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Speaker 2: And that pushes the the unbelievably. It pushes the Carolina

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Speaker 2: Panthers into first place in the NFC South, a team

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Speaker 2: that had won six games over the previous three years,

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Speaker 2: six games or so.

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Speaker 2: So Tampa Bay has lost six of seven post by Yeah.

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Speaker 4: It That offense has dealt with so many injuries this year.

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Speaker 4: They got back Mike Evans last night. A few weeks ago,

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Speaker 4: they got back Buckey over in the game after the Bills,

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Speaker 4: their star wide receiver and star running back respectively. Baker

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Speaker 4: Mayfield just has not looked the same. Their defense is

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Speaker 4: not bad. That they have the stars on the defensive side,

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Speaker 4: they have Vitavea, they have Antoine Winfield Junior, but that

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Speaker 4: whole group, I mean, we talked about it so much here,

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Speaker 4: and I know Bills fans are very cognizant of this.

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Speaker 4: You want to play your best football late in the

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Speaker 4: season and go in to the playoffs hot. The Buccaneers

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Speaker 4: are kind of trending in the wrong direction. They were

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Speaker 4: beating first place teams in September and October. They played

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Speaker 4: the Eagles tough in Philadelphia, and then really right around

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Speaker 4: that Bills game is really where they have hit that

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Speaker 4: tail spin and have just not been the same team

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Speaker 4: that we've seen the last two years.

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Speaker 2: They've I misspoke it was five out of their last six,

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Speaker 2: six out of the last eight. Since they they began

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Speaker 2: for them. They've got the but they do have the

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Speaker 2: Panthers this week, then the Dolphins, then the Panthers against.

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Speaker 5: I love how those schedule structure now, it's cool.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the league has started to do that a lot.

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Speaker 2: They you know, they're putting these division in games at

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Speaker 2: end up being. We can got We've got time now

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Speaker 2: to go around the National Football League. Around. My NFL

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Speaker 2: is presented by Colida Healthy, official healthcare system of the

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Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills. And you look at what's going on Steelers

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Speaker 2: outside linebacker TJ. Watt, a team that the Bills beat

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Speaker 2: a few weeks ago. He's unlikely to play against the

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Speaker 2: Dolphins this week. He was in a hospital. He's in

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Speaker 2: a hospital being treated for it discomforting is lung right.

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Speaker 2: He began to feel this injury at the team facility

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Speaker 2: and then they got it's been reported since they had

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Speaker 2: they found a small hole in his lungs and that

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Speaker 5: But it's probably not going to play Sunday out the

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Speaker 2: Say, it seems doubtful that he will play the Monday

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Speaker 2: night game against the Dolphins on Monday Night.

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Speaker 7: Now, I don't that's suddenly a big game. I mean,

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Speaker 7: I've never heard of that kind of injury. I don't

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Speaker 7: know how it affects you, except that how can you

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Speaker 7: catch your breath? And if it and if it is painful,

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Speaker 7: and plus how'd that get there?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, That's what I'm wondering.

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Speaker 2: And there's all kinds of question marks around it. But

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Speaker 2: certainly anytime you deal with something like this, it seems

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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, let's let's be real. For most

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Speaker 2: football fans, like, well, he pull the hamstrings like okay,

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Speaker 2: but you get a hold in his lung. That kind

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Speaker 2: of creeps me out. Yeah, because it's creepy. It's a

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Speaker 2: creepy injury.

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Speaker 5: Right exactly. And for someone like TJ.

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Speaker 4: Watt that it's physically fit and there was no report

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Speaker 4: of like a punctured lung or anything.

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Speaker 2: Without something going through your side.

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Speaker 4: And I think what's key to that is that we'll

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Speaker 4: call it old Guard of quarterbacking pocket passers. Tom Brady

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Speaker 4: And Travion Henderson was hardly used. It was really Remandra

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Speaker 4: some adjustments. Obviously, turnovers were a big thing in that

436
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Speaker 4: game in Week five. But it's not to say that

437
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Speaker 4: the Bills cannot win if they don't run the ball.

438
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Speaker 4: They've shown that over the last month that they can

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Speaker 4: win and still score a lot of points without running

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Speaker 4: the football.

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Speaker 5: But that, to me is the biggest.

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Speaker 4: Difference between these two teams from October until now.

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Speaker 2: The Bills in that first meeting ran the ball, handed

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Speaker 2: it off. Well that's not true. They ran the ball

445
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Speaker 2: twenty nine times. Now, nine of those were by Josh,

446
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Speaker 2: not all of them were called runs. But they ended

447
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Speaker 2: up running the ball twenty nine times throwing at thirty

448
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Speaker 2: one times. Wow, So it was right down in the middle. Now,

449
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Speaker 2: the nine runs by Josh, like I said, those are

450
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Speaker 2: long nineteen That was a pass play, but they weren't

451
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Speaker 2: afraid to run the football against the Patriots the last time,

452
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Speaker 2: and because it was a close game, you know that

453
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Speaker 2: kind of thing. Remember how that game win It was

454
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Speaker 2: six to three at halftime, as totally totally unfun to watch.

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Speaker 4: What's interesting about that game, the Bills had more first

456
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Speaker 4: downs than the Patriots. They each averaged six yards per play.

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Speaker 4: The Bills gained the Patriots in that game. So it's

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Speaker 4: not as though, and I mean, if you look at

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Speaker 4: time of possession, which in today's NFL, the Bills lose

460
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Speaker 4: the time of possession a lot where they're scoring quickly.

461
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Speaker 4: It was not a game and I guess maybe this

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Speaker 4: is indicative by it only being a three point loss

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Speaker 4: for Buffalo. It was not as though, like the Patriots

464
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Speaker 4: just dominated the Bills in this game. It was a

465
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Speaker 4: very tightly contested game where the Bills kind of made

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Speaker 4: some mistakes those three turnovers, and that was ultimately the

467
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Speaker 4: difference against a pretty good team.

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Speaker 2: The Bills had thirty four and a half minutes of

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Speaker 2: time of possession and the Patriots had twenty five and

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Speaker 2: a half.

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Speaker 4: They were better on third down. It was kind of

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Speaker 4: those shoot yourself in the foot kind of games.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's why you felt like at the end

474
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Speaker 2: of that game, and kudos to the pass they won

475
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Speaker 2: the game. And Drake BAERs feel like the Bills. You

476
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Speaker 2: feel like the Bills that game kind of let one

477
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Speaker 2: get away from them. And that's quintessentially a Mike Rabel

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Speaker 2: coach team, they not beat themselves. It's it's like, for

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Speaker 2: those of you who are a certain vintage me, this

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00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 2: is exactly like a Bill Parcells coach team. They don't

481
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Speaker 2: beat themselves, and sooner or later, somebody gives them one

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Speaker 2: and you get into a string of bad teams like

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Speaker 2: the Patriots have faced. Yeah, they do it. They have.

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Speaker 2: They have the easiest They've had the easiest schedule in

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Speaker 2: the entire National Football League in strength of schedule. And

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Speaker 2: because of that, without the taking advantagi, yeah, without bad

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Speaker 2: playing bad teams. They give you the they give you chances,

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Speaker 2: and that's what has happened. It's a I think, you know,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to I'm not over confident going into

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Speaker 2: this game. Believe me, I have no qualms about how

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Speaker 2: good the Patriots can be.

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Speaker 5: Well here's why.

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Speaker 4: And I think you kind of just spoke to it generally.

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Speaker 4: But if you really want to get granular. The head

495
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Speaker 4: coach is very good. He's a great game manager, like

496
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Speaker 4: you're saying all the Bill Parcells coached philosophy, things that

497
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Speaker 4: Mike Rabel proved that he can do in Tennessee and

498
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Speaker 4: his doing now in New England that matters. And the

499
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Speaker 4: quarterback is one of the few quarterbacks. I'm not gonna

500
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Speaker 4: say he's as good as Josh Allen yet, but physically

501
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Speaker 4: can do some of the same things. And we saw

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Speaker 4: it in that game in the fourth quarter where Joey

503
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Speaker 4: Bose is pulling him to the turf.

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Speaker 5: The crowd erupts, thinks at the sack.

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Speaker 4: No, he gets the ball out to Stefon Diggs, gets

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Speaker 4: the first down. Right, he can match some of the

507
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Speaker 4: stuff that Josh Allen does. So when your head coach

508
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Speaker 4: is really good and is in firm control of all right,

509
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Speaker 4: here's where I got to use the time out, I

510
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,439
Speaker 4: shouldn't kick here, I should go for it. That is

511
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Speaker 4: a big advantage for a team. And of course, as

512
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Speaker 4: Bills fans know, when your quarterback can do superhero things

513
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Speaker 4: with his legs and with his arm, you're really not

514
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Speaker 4: out of any game. So absolutely, this will be a

515
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Speaker 4: very difficult test for the Bills in Foxboro on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Steve Tasker Chris Trepasso at the bottom of the air.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna We're gonna have the play by play voice

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Speaker 2: of the New England Patriots, Bob soci coming on here

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Speaker 2: just after the break. We're gonna take a break right now.

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Speaker 2: This is Buffalo Bill's Radio and you're listening to One

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Speaker 2: Bill's Live. Welcome back to One Bill's Lives. Steve Tasker

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Speaker 2: along with Chris Trapasso. We're pleased to join. Be joined

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Speaker 2: now by the voice of the New England Patriots, played

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Speaker 2: by play announcer Bob Socie. Bob, thanks for coming on.

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Speaker 2: Steve Tasker, Chris Trapasso here for you. What do you think?

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Speaker 2: Is this game looking like it's gonna be a little different,

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Speaker 2: a little bit of a different game than it was

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Speaker 2: in Week five. But it looks like it's gonna be

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Speaker 2: another one score game and any one of those where

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Speaker 2: both fan bases are gonna ride the roller coaster.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I have a feeling it's gonna be that way, Stevens.

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Speaker 8: Looks like a game similar in a lot of respects

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Speaker 8: to the one that Bills played last week against Cincinnati.

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Speaker 8: The elements maybe one to three inches of snow now

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Speaker 8: being forecast for Sunday before kick off.

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Speaker 3: The quarterbacks.

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Speaker 8: The exceptional play we saw for the most part between

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Speaker 8: Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 3: And Josh Allen, And you know, to rely on that.

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Speaker 8: Old cliche probably comes down to who has the ball last,

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Speaker 8: because I don't think there's any putting away the Bills,

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Speaker 8: their ability to come back the way they did last week,

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Speaker 8: guys stepping up to make plays. And the same thing

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Speaker 8: with this Patriots team right now, the role that they've

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Speaker 8: been on, having won ten straight coming out of the buy,

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Speaker 8: They've developed a lot of confidence and I think it desire,

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Speaker 8: but belief in themselves that they can win, you know,

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Speaker 8: under any circumstances.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, for as much as I agree with you guys

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Speaker 4: that I think this game is going to go down

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Speaker 4: to the wire. These are two very evenly matched teams

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Speaker 4: switching gears. Though, how do you see this Patriots deam

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Speaker 4: different from the team that was on the field in

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Speaker 4: Orchard Park on.

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Speaker 5: That Sunday night football game in Week five?

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Speaker 4: Like whether you know good developments, bad developments, players in

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Speaker 4: and out of the lineup, Like what are the biggest

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00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,120
Speaker 4: differences you've seen over the last two months.

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Speaker 5: For this team.

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Speaker 8: Well, Chris, there's significant differences when you talk about players

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Speaker 8: out of the lineup for the Patriots. They're in a

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Speaker 8: diminished state physically compared to the way went into Week

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Speaker 8: five and in fact for most of this season the health.

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Speaker 8: But of late, we've seen Milton Williams really, you know,

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Speaker 8: you could say he's the MVP of the Patriots defense

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Speaker 8: to this point, along with Marcus Jones maybe in that

567
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Speaker 8: conversation as well.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 8: Williams is currently on injured reserve. You flip it over

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Speaker 8: to the offensive line. They've played without Will Campbell and

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Speaker 8: Jared Wilson, two rookies of late on the left side

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Speaker 8: of the offensive line, and Campbell's on IR Those are

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Speaker 8: guys that have really enabled the Patriots offense this season

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Speaker 8: to protect Drake May for the most part and make

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Speaker 8: a significant difference compared to what was last year, you know,

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Speaker 8: a very porous offensive front. And then there are a

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Speaker 8: couple of other guys, Robert Splane, leader of the defense,

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Speaker 8: one of the leading tacklers and really a heart and

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Speaker 8: soul type of player. He's questionable for this game. So

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Speaker 8: they've dealt with injuries of late but I think a

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Speaker 8: big difference between today and Week five is, you know,

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Speaker 8: back then, they were really trying to find their way,

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Speaker 8: find their identity as a team. They were coming off

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Speaker 8: two losses in the first three games, a game against

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Speaker 8: Las Vegas that turned on a Drake May interception in

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Speaker 8: the third quarter, a game against Pittsburgh when they turned

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Speaker 8: it over five times, including a Drake May fumble on

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Speaker 8: a final possession for the Patriots when they could have

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Speaker 8: driven to the lead. They have eliminated that bad football

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Speaker 8: for the most part that we saw in those first

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Speaker 8: few weeks, and they have done a better job of

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Speaker 8: capitalizing on bad football of late. That's a big reason

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Speaker 8: why they've won the ten straight games. And I just

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Speaker 8: think overall the sense of confidence that they have as

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Speaker 8: a team, the emergence of Stefan Diggs. That was a

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Speaker 8: huge factor that night in Buffalo. The first three games,

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Speaker 8: he was almost on a pitch count, i would say,

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Speaker 8: and certainly was not as involved in the offense as

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Speaker 8: he was in that game.

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Speaker 3: And going forward, what is.

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Speaker 2: The narrative that Mike Vrabel has put out about his

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Speaker 2: team and that they're on.

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Speaker 8: You know, so I think that the big thing with Mike,

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Speaker 8: and it's been this way from day one of training camp.

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Speaker 8: He has stressed a lot of simple you know, old adages,

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Speaker 8: old coaching lines, you know, effort and finish. You know,

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Speaker 8: let's take care of this game, this week, this day.

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Speaker 8: And I think that they've handled, you know, as the

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Speaker 8: season has gone along, the different expectations that they came

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Speaker 8: out of training camp. There were high expectations for this team,

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Speaker 8: and as I mentioned, they got after that disappointing start,

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Speaker 8: then they rebounded, got on this role and the expectations

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Speaker 8: have been heightened, and they went to Tampa Bay. Although

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00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 8: the Bucks have fallen off, they won a game in

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Speaker 8: Florida that was I think critical for them in terms of,

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Speaker 8: you know, establishing a belief in the Patriots on a

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Speaker 8: national level, Drake May putting himself in that MVP conversation,

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Speaker 8: and I think every week there after, you know, they've

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Speaker 8: been able to handle those different expectations very well because

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Speaker 8: of I think Rabel's philosophy. It's essentially effort in finish

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Speaker 8: every play on defense, everybody going to the football finished

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Speaker 8: to playing on offense in a case of May.

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Speaker 3: And he's been a huge difference maker for them this year.

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Speaker 8: His growth at the quarterback position. It's getting the ball

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00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 8: wherever you know, he sees that it has to go.

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Speaker 8: This team has had five different receivers have one hundred

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Speaker 8: yard day. They recently had a string of four straight

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Speaker 8: games for example, with the one hundred yard receiver was

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Speaker 8: a different guy every week. Last year they didn't have

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Speaker 8: one hundred yard receiver until Kayshawn Booty in that season

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Speaker 8: finale against the Bills. So they're more balanced offensively in

632
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Speaker 8: terms of the passing distribution. More guys are contributing, and

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Speaker 8: I think what we've seen again from the defensive effort

634
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 8: is that everybody's playing the role. People like Christian Ellis,

635
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 8: guys that were special team role players in the past

636
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Speaker 8: are now emerging. Is guys were stepping into positions every

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Speaker 8: down players and making an impact on the team.

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Speaker 4: All Right, I got to ask you about Drake May,

639
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Speaker 4: because deep down I'm an NFL draft guy. I loved

640
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Speaker 4: him coming out of North Carolina. What has been the

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Speaker 4: general consensus or guess just the observations that people like

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00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 4: yourself and other media members there in New England have

643
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Speaker 4: seen from Drake May to go from a pretty encouraging

644
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Speaker 4: rookie season to the front runner for the MVP, Like,

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Speaker 4: what are the nuances that he's either done during the

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Speaker 4: week of practice or in the locker room or certainly

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Speaker 4: on the field that have been the most impressive to

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Speaker 4: you and other media members there.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, because I think the word nuances is applicable here.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 8: We're talking about a guy with a lot of physical

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Speaker 8: gifts as you saw coming out of North Carolina, and

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Speaker 8: a lot of people made comparisons between Drake May and

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Speaker 8: Josh Allen in one figure it if he was ever

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Speaker 8: going to approach those not that he could duplicate them,

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Speaker 8: it would take some time.

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Speaker 3: It takes several years.

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Speaker 8: The growth from last season to this point of this

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Speaker 8: year has been beyond incredible. I think Josh McDaniel's offense

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Speaker 8: is I think the first area one looks at with

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Speaker 8: Drake May this season a lot more on the quarterback's

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Speaker 8: plate than in the West Coast system last year under

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Speaker 8: Alex Van Pelt. Drake May, who came out of North

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Speaker 8: Carolina without really commanding a huddle making play calls, has

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Speaker 8: handled it with the plum setting protections, adjusting to McDaniel's

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Speaker 8: coaching style, and I think he's really flourished under Josh.

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Speaker 3: Then beyond that.

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Speaker 8: With the physical gifts, you know, he has this ability,

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Speaker 8: as you know, to make off script, off platform plays,

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Speaker 8: extend plays, and we saw a couple of them Ian Buffalo.

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Speaker 8: I want to throw to Digs down the right sideline

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Speaker 8: where he was being hit and driven to the turf,

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Speaker 8: an example of those kind of plays a few quarterbacks

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Speaker 8: can make. Well, you know, there's also in the desire

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Speaker 8: to make those plays sometimes, you know, that exposing the

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Speaker 8: football being a little bit reckless, too daring, if you will,

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Speaker 8: And we saw that early in the season.

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Speaker 3: I think he's a.

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Speaker 8: Better job now of late in protecting the ball and

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Speaker 8: picking his spots where he tries to extend to play

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Speaker 8: or force a throw in to coverage. His downfield accuracy

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Speaker 8: has been incredible, the ability to complete passes better than

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Speaker 8: a seventy percent clip with a kind of X plays.

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Speaker 8: This Patriots team has had well over forty plays of

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Speaker 8: twenty plus.

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Speaker 3: Yards in the passing game.

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Speaker 8: And then leadership, the voice in the huddle, of the

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Speaker 8: presence in the locker room, drawing his teammates to him.

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Speaker 8: I mean, he's really grown in every way as a

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Speaker 8: young quarterback and his young leader of this team.

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Speaker 2: On the other side of the ball, the defense is

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Speaker 2: a top ten defense in yards allowed in total defense,

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Speaker 2: but they're thirty second in red zone letting teams scored

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Speaker 2: once they get down there. Why is that? Why both

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Speaker 2: ends of the spectrum there? What's the deal?

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Speaker 3: And they're still trying to figure that out.

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Speaker 8: Steve, It's a question wee can week out for Mike

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Speaker 8: Freblon really on both sides of the ball, because the

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Speaker 8: offense is near the bottom of the league as well

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Speaker 8: in red zone offense that's sixth plays. For example, on

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Speaker 8: offense a couple of weeks ago versus Cincinnati from the

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Speaker 8: one yard line, a couple of penalties prolonged to drive

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Speaker 8: and they couldn't get the ball on the end zone

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Speaker 8: in that entire sequence. And on the defensive side, haven't

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Speaker 8: been able to keep people out of the end zone.

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Speaker 3: And there are two things that this defense has been

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Speaker 3: played by.

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Speaker 8: It's the inability to stop teams from scoring touchdowns inside

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Speaker 8: the twenty, and then the other part of it is

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Speaker 8: the inability generally to set the tone. They changed that

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Speaker 8: a bit against the Giants, coming out very physically, but

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Speaker 8: they've given up a lot of first series touchdowns and

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Speaker 8: field goals and have had to play from behind right

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Speaker 8: from the jump.

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Speaker 3: I think you look at a couple of things.

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Speaker 8: Perhaps you know, they don't exert a lot of pressure

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Speaker 8: on quarterbacks in general, particularly when they're not blitzing. They

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Speaker 8: got more pressure early in this season. I think Williams

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Speaker 8: commanded some attention inside and that freed some guys like

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Speaker 8: Carl Lattery up from the edge. But Lattery's been bothered

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Speaker 8: by a knee injury since the New Orleans game. Kylevon

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Speaker 8: Chason has been a very pleasant surprise for them as

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Speaker 8: a talented guy kind of cast off a bit in

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Speaker 8: recent years from several organizations.

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Speaker 3: After he was number one.

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Speaker 8: Pick, his production spiked, but it's it's kind of stayed

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Speaker 8: level of late. So they're not getting a lot of

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Speaker 8: consistent pressure on opposing quarterbacks, and you know, they just

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Speaker 8: haven't taken advantage defensively of those tight spaces when you're

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Speaker 8: in the red zone to keep people out of there.

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Speaker 8: That was a four day of Belichick's defenses through the

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Speaker 8: years in New England, and if memory serves of Rabels

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Speaker 8: as well, when he was at Tennessee.

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Speaker 4: All right, I want to ask you about one other

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Speaker 4: player jumping over to the offensive side another young player,

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Speaker 4: Trevion Henderson. In week five, Steve talked about it last

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Speaker 4: segment that it was about a fifty to fifty split

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Speaker 4: between Henderson and Ramondre Stevenson's Is that still the case.

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Speaker 4: I know Henderson has gotten the football more over the

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Speaker 4: last couple of months. Do they still like the fifty

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Speaker 4: to fifty split or could we envision the game on

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Speaker 4: Sunday where Henderson is the unquestioned lead back and Stevenson

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Speaker 4: is more the change of pace guy.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Chris, there certainly was a swing or a shift

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Speaker 8: in terms of the workload, but some of that had

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Speaker 8: to do with an injury for Ramondre Stevens and missing

747
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Speaker 8: some time in the middle of the season, and that

748
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Speaker 8: allowed Trayvon Henderson to flourish. She had a huge game

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Speaker 8: against Tampa Bay too long touchdown, two long runs, one

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Speaker 8: of them for touchdown for Trayvon. And he's a pass

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Speaker 8: catching back I think who can make some plays in

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Speaker 8: the passing game. Eventually, he hasn't been able to really

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Speaker 8: break out in that respect thus far. I think when

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Speaker 8: you go back to the red zone offense, is she's

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Speaker 8: not having Romondre Stevenson involved more consistently.

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Speaker 3: There may be a factor.

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Speaker 8: I wouldn't be surprised if we see a fifty to

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Speaker 8: fifty split in this game, because the Patrios are going

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Speaker 8: to want to try to establish some inside running against

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Speaker 8: the Bills defense. I know the Bills were better against

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Speaker 8: the Bengals in that respect, but there's been some vulnerability there.

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Speaker 8: But Henderson is a guy that can hit the home run,

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Speaker 8: and he did that right from the outset of training

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Speaker 8: camp and in the preseason took the opening kick of

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Speaker 8: the preseason one hundred yards. And then I think the

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Speaker 8: first few weeks of the regular season had to adjust

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Speaker 8: to the speed of play and the complexities of the

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Speaker 8: NFL in terms of pass protection, and he really struggled

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Speaker 8: in that area. And Stevenson got more playing time in

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Speaker 8: front of Henderson because of his ability to pass protect.

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Speaker 8: So I think a lot of it will depend in

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Speaker 8: this case how the game goes, if they're having trouble

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Speaker 8: if the blitz. You know, the Bills don't blitz a lot,

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Speaker 8: it seems, but if they do, they may go with

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Speaker 8: Stevens more than Henderson simply because of his ability to

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Speaker 8: pick up the blitz in a lot better way and

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Speaker 8: protect Rake maythan Trevan's been able to do thus far.

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Speaker 2: Last one for me, Bob, you had a chance. You

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Speaker 2: obviously did the game in week five for the Patriots,

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Speaker 2: and you watched Buffalo and the Patriots go go at

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Speaker 2: it came down to that last walk off field goal.

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Speaker 2: Then you had since the Patriots thrown the by you

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Speaker 2: were here in Buffalo doing the national broadcast on radio,

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Speaker 2: and you all the Bills in the and the Cincinnati team.

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Speaker 2: If you're talking to Patriots fans, what are they going

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Speaker 2: to think looks different about this Bills team since Week five?

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Speaker 2: Then they saw in you know that they saw what

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Speaker 2: are they going to notice difference here in week fifteen?

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Speaker 8: Well, I would say one thing Steve for me is

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Speaker 8: the emergence of Christian Benford in his playmaking ability, how

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Speaker 8: he's been able to you know, have a sense of,

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Speaker 8: you know, when his team needs to play if indeed

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Speaker 8: it is a sense Mike ra Abel talked about that

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Speaker 8: last week.

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Speaker 3: The Bills have that pedigree.

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Speaker 8: You know, you don't win five championships without having that

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Speaker 8: knack to make plays and critical moments, and they often

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Speaker 8: come from, you know, different parts of the roster and

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Speaker 8: I think Benford has been a guy for the Bills

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Speaker 8: over the last couple of weeks in his ability to

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Speaker 8: shadow the opposite team's best receiver. I don't know that

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Speaker 8: you guys obviously would know this a lot better than

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Speaker 8: I if that was necessarily the case early in the season.

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Speaker 8: So maybe it's Benford who draws more of an assignment

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Speaker 8: on Stefan Diggsy in this game. Diggs really is critical

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Speaker 8: for Drake may in terms of getting the sticks moving.

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Speaker 8: I think you know, the two tight ends were huge

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Speaker 8: in Cincinnati. Now, Kincaid had a terrific game against the Patriots,

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Speaker 8: but with Knox and Kincaid, and you throw in Hawes

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Speaker 8: who had a touchdown catching that Cincinnati game, that's a

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Speaker 8: lot to deal with for the Patriots. They haven't covered

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Speaker 8: tight ends well, even with Spallina on the field again

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Speaker 8: in the middle of that linebacking court, and if he

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Speaker 8: isn't able to go or is compromised because of that injury,

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Speaker 8: the foot injury, then that would be an area I

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Speaker 8: think the Patriots would have more trouble contending with here

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Speaker 8: in Week fifteen as opposed to Week five. And then

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Speaker 8: the other part of it is just a different cast

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Speaker 8: of receivers in part gave Davis returning to Buffalo. Now

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Speaker 8: Brandon Cooks is there. But you know, I think overall,

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Speaker 8: you know what you get with the Bills, tough football team,

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Speaker 8: and it comes down to, you know, being able to

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Speaker 8: at least contain Josh Allen and you know, match him.

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Speaker 3: Point for point, play for play. I think from the

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Speaker 3: Patriots perspective.

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Speaker 2: Bob, thanks for joining us, appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: My pleasure.

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Speaker 8: Guy's good to be with you. Looking forward to Sunday.

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Speaker 8: It's gonna be a lot of fun, as are we.

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Speaker 2: That's Bob so She Patriots radio play by play announcers,

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Speaker 2: Voice of the Patriots. Thanks for joining us. We're here

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Speaker 2: with Chris Trapasso. This Steve task We're in here here

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Speaker 2: till three o'clock. Coming up at the top of the

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Speaker 2: hour is executive producer of NFL Films, our own Greg Cosell,

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Speaker 2: friend of the show. Stay with us. We'll be right

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Speaker 2: back after the break, Steve Tasker. Christrapasso. This is One

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Speaker 2: Bill's Live and you're listening to Buffalo Bills Radio. One

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Speaker 2: Bill's Live. Back with you, Steve Tasker, Christapasso. Time now

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Speaker 2: for Gabes Collision Course collision course presented by Gabe's Collision

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Speaker 2: Your Car's Best defense before we take Dave from Rochester's call,

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Speaker 2: Hang on there for a second, Dave, This collision course

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Speaker 2: today is the red His own defense of the New

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Speaker 2: England Patriots is on a collision course with the Bills

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Speaker 2: red zone offense. The red zone defense for the Patriots

845
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Speaker 2: is ranked thirty second in the NFL. They give up

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Speaker 2: a touchdown seventy three percent of the time to teams

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Speaker 2: that get down inside their twenty yard line. The Bills

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Speaker 2: offense is number ten in the NFL. They get a

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Speaker 2: touchdown sixty one percent of the time they get down there.

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Speaker 2: It looks to be a matchup that is favorable to

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Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills. I've always said this too. One of

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00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 2: the things that is crucial in the red zone is

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Speaker 2: the thread of a run game.

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Speaker 5: At least the threat of being able to run it in.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Bills can run it with James Cook and

856
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 2: they're not afraid to run it with their quarterback. It's

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Speaker 2: a double edged sword with their run game. It's a

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Speaker 2: problem that plus the fact that they can throw it

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Speaker 2: down there to their tight ends strutting backs is you know,

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Speaker 2: I mean they're just hard to stop. So that's if

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Speaker 2: the Bills can get down their close it looks like

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Speaker 2: they're gonna come away with points.

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Speaker 4: And especially with all three tight ends healthy. Now they

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Speaker 4: can align in that thirteen personnel and it looks like

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Speaker 4: a run play and you suddenly use play action and

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Speaker 4: you have three big targets down there in the red zone.

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Speaker 4: But to your first point, a few years ago, when

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Speaker 4: the Bills really struggled relatively speaking to how good their

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Speaker 4: offense was as a whole in the red zone, they

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Speaker 4: weren't able to run it down there, and now they can.

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Speaker 4: Spencer Brown coming back this week will be huge too.

872
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 5: So I think.

873
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 4: To be multi layered offensively and to use those heavy

874
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 4: personnel groups where you can run it. Jackson Hawes can

875
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 4: be a lead blocker or you can throw it to

876
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 4: him is a huge advantage for the Bills in this game.

877
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 2: That's Gabe's Collision Course brought to you by Gabe's Collision,

878
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,439
Speaker 2: Your Car's best Defense. We're going to take a phone

879
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 2: call now, Dave in Rochester's been waiting for a while. Dave,

880
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 2: really appreciate your patience.

881
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 6: Go ahead, Yeah, Steve Evan followed your team, your program

882
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 6: right along in all week I've been wanting to call,

883
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 6: and I finally decided to call for one. I met

884
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 6: you many years ago in Rochester at the Rochester Convention

885
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 6: Center when I was honored for saving the life and

886
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,800
Speaker 6: you were at dinner with me, So that was pretty

887
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 6: awesome back then, many years ago. But anyway, I'm calling

888
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 6: because the last game Week five drove me nuts. For

889
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 6: one reason is Stefan Diggs, who is definitely, as you know,

890
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 6: Josh Allen's main catcher and producer of yardage for us.

891
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 6: He had so much to do with that game planning

892
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 6: because it almost looked like a script of what the

893
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 6: Bills were doing three years ago, with Josh Allen just

894
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 6: rolling to the right all the time and throwing it downfield.

895
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 6: And it was like Stefan Diggs was fifteen yards down

896
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Speaker 6: running to the sideline, another player was seven yards down

897
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 6: rolling to the sideline. So it gave Drake May both

898
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 6: two different players to throw to and our defenders never

899
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 6: really adjusted, which I'm hoping that doesn't happen anymore with that,

900
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:10,839
Speaker 6: and so that's where I am with that. So I'm

901
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 6: hoping that our defenders play a little closer to the

902
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 6: best against Diggs and we have a better outcome because

903
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 6: that was just like all he did is roll out

904
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 6: to the right sort of ball down the sideline and

905
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,919
Speaker 6: then Stefan Diggs had one hundred and fifty yards that game.

906
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, thanks, all right, Dave, got you. Thanks for

907
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 2: the call, appreciate it.

908
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 4: To me, what the biggest difference is is that the

909
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,439
Speaker 4: Bills are a lot more stable in the safety room

910
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 4: than they were in that game. Taylor Rapp was dealing

911
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 4: with the knee injury. He's done for the season. He

912
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 4: hasn't played in a while now. Coal Bishop was not

913
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 4: the same Coal Bishop as we've seen over the last

914
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 4: six to eight weeks.

915
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Speaker 5: And they've gotten.

916
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 4: Actually pretty stable play from Jordan Poyer since he's come

917
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 4: back to the team. So that was a part of

918
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 4: the Bill season early on that even though they were

919
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 4: winning games up until Week five, it was like, man,

920
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 4: the safety play is not really good. The safeties have

921
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 4: been very good, and I think they have a firm

922
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Speaker 4: grasp of Sean mcdermot's defense.

923
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'll say this too that both those quarterbacks

924
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 2: in that game, this goes under the radar. Both Josh

925
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 2: Allen and Drake May completed seventy of their passes.

926
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Speaker 5: It was a it was a show. It was a clinic.

927
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they didn't score very much, but they were both

928
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:20,280
Speaker 2: completing a lot of balls. So interesting fact, I didn't

929
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Speaker 2: realize they both looked so good and completed such a

930
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Speaker 2: high percentage of their throwers. We're going to take a break.

931
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Speaker 2: Come back at the top of the hour for Executive

932
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Speaker 2: producer of NFL Films, Greg Cosel will meet with us

933
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 2: and talk with us and tell us about his take

934
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Speaker 2: on the Patriots game this week and this Steve Tasker

935
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 2: Christapasso on One Bill's Live. You're listening to Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 1: Radio the One Bills Live presented by Kalita Health.

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00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 2: Welcome back to our two of One Bill's Lives. Steve

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00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 2: Tasker and Chris Trapasso will please be joined now by

939
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Speaker 2: NFL Senior producer Greg co Sell, also co host of

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941
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942
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 2: drink of the Buffalo Bill's Food Deserves Pepsi. Greg, thanks

943
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 2: for being on with us the Bills fans. It took

944
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 2: him quite a minute. It took him a minute to

945
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 2: turn the page from the Cincinnati game more of a

946
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 2: that was more you know, games like that are of

947
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,080
Speaker 2: fun to watch and all of that, But to me,

948
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 2: there's been a lot better football games that the Bills

949
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 2: have played than that one. And you know, when Josh,

950
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:09,919
Speaker 2: whenever Josh puts the cape on, I mean, everybody loves

951
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 2: to see it. But that's kind of what happened, right.

952
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Speaker 9: Yeah.

953
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:15,879
Speaker 10: You know, it's funny. I was watching that game, and

954
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 10: you know, I guess there's a part of me that

955
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 10: roots of the Bill Steve. You know, I prefer to

956
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 10: see them win they lose. You know, I try, I

957
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 10: try to be objective, but you know, I prefer to

958
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 10: see the Bills win they lose. And I'm watching that

959
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 10: game and it gets to be twenty eight eighteen, and

960
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 10: I'm thinking, this one's over. You know, you're not a

961
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:31,879
Speaker 10: long way.

962
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,439
Speaker 2: What do you think I I was thinking the same

963
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 2: thing as that man, is gonna be a long week?

964
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, because I mean, obviously if they had lost

965
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 10: that game, I mean, they're just fighting for the playoffs.

966
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 10: We don't and again they're not in yet, and you know,

967
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 10: a lot of things can change we know that with

968
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 10: still four to go. But look, we've talked about Josh

969
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 10: Allen so many times. You guys know, I believe he's

970
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 10: the most physically talented, physically gifted quarterback in the league.

971
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,959
Speaker 10: But you cannot live in that world every week, Steve,

972
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 10: if you know that where where he has to make

973
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 10: these plays that are just ridiculous. I mean, you know

974
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 10: the play we're looking at right now to Shakier. It's funny.

975
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 10: I watched that play over and over. I'm not sure

976
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 10: if he was thrown to Shakira or if he was

977
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 10: throwing to h I think it was Shavers behind him,

978
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 10: but no one will say. But you know, they'll tell

979
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 10: you he was thrown to Shakier obviously, and maybe he was.

980
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 10: But and then of course this run. You know, the Bengals,

981
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 10: I'm not sure what they were thinking in certain situations

982
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 10: where they had nobody to account for Josh Allen's scrambling

983
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,919
Speaker 10: ability and that play, that forty yard touchdown, they played

984
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 10: zero with no one accounting for Josh. So you know,

985
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 10: sometimes the defense has to has to help you with

986
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 10: times as well. But you know, it's just hard to

987
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 10: live in that world where you expect him to be

988
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 10: Superman every single week.

989
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:50,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, we the Shakir play, And you're right, I don't

990
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 2: know who he was throwing it to either. In fact,

991
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 2: it there was no place to put that football. He

992
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 2: I knew that through that. I don't know what he

993
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 2: expected to have. I can't tell you what he expected

994
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 2: to happen when he let that ball go, because he

995
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 2: when he threw it, it was a disaster. And yeah,

996
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 2: I have no idea how he expected any buffalo bill

997
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 2: to catch that ball. And yet it looked as you know,

998
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 2: I mean, good grief, it turned it's.

999
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 10: Josh Allen, I mean, you know, in a in a

1000
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 10: different kind of way. It reminded me of that play.

1001
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Speaker 10: Was it a Thursday night game and a couple of

1002
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 10: years ago against New England or he made that play

1003
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 10: with like no time left at the end of the

1004
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 10: first half, and I think that's who it was again, say,

1005
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 10: am I right? Am I remembering that correctly?

1006
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:45,919
Speaker 5: I think Dolphins Saturday night game in the snow.

1007
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 10: Yeah yeah, Chris, is you remember that was exactly where

1008
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 10: there was literally like they were in field goal range.

1009
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 10: And and but that play, you know, it took him

1010
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:58,720
Speaker 10: to the end of the half, but he threw a touchdown,

1011
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 10: and you know it's what those no, no, no, yes,

1012
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 10: you know, but yeah, a lot more. But you know,

1013
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 10: like we said, it's tough to live like that.

1014
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, Greg, I have one more question about this previous

1015
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 4: game against the Bengals, because I've seen some takes on

1016
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,399
Speaker 4: both sides, and what you pointed at I think makes

1017
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 4: a lot of sense. The Bills don't want to always

1018
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 4: live in this status of we need to just rely

1019
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 4: on Josh Allen being superman on the other side of

1020
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 4: the ball. Did you come away from that film thinking

1021
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 4: that the Bills defense is a problem they didn't have

1022
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 4: a good game, or that Joe Burrow and not so

1023
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 4: much Jamar Chase, but Jamar Chase and Ti Higgins, Micah

1024
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 4: Sicki are just that dynamic when they're all together on

1025
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 4: the field.

1026
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 10: Well, Chris, you know I've watched the Bills. I've been

1027
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 10: doing this with these you guys for years and years.

1028
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 10: I've watched the Bills for years, literally every play. This

1029
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 10: may come across as a bold, controversial statement, and maybe

1030
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 10: some fans will hate me for it, but I don't

1031
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 10: know if they truly have an impact player on the

1032
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 10: defensive side of the ball. I think Oliver is the

1033
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,919
Speaker 10: and he's obviously hurt. I don't know if he'll be back.

1034
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 10: I guess he's trending towards coming back at some point,

1035
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 10: you know. So when I'm watching the Bills d the

1036
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 10: thing I think Sean McDermott does exceptionally well, and I've

1037
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 10: actually had conversations with offensive coaches in the league about this.

1038
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:18,240
Speaker 10: I think he's really really good at changing the picture

1039
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 10: pre snap to post snap. But they don't really have

1040
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,919
Speaker 10: a one on one pass rusher at this point in time.

1041
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 10: You wouldn't say they have a great corner. I mean, Bedford,

1042
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 10: they signed nice player. They're hoping. Look, they drafted Hairston.

1043
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 10: They're hoping he turns into more than a nice player

1044
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 10: because he was a first round pick. But you know,

1045
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 10: and Cole Bishop looks like he could become a really

1046
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 10: solid safety. But I just I feel like when I

1047
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 10: watch their defense that I don't feel like there's an

1048
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 10: impact defender that you feel like, well, that guy is

1049
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 10: going to be the guy that just makes plays when

1050
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 10: you need it. You know, Bosa was out this week.

1051
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 10: He's probably the closest right now to a pass rusher

1052
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 10: that they have Rousseau hasn't turned into exactly I imagine what

1053
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,800
Speaker 10: they wanted. Good play, but you know, not that kind

1054
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 10: of guy. So I just, you know, that's that's the

1055
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 10: way I feel about their defense, and I think it's

1056
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 10: it's and because of that, any given week against a

1057
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 10: good opponent can be a potential struggle.

1058
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,439
Speaker 2: Well, that's that's kind of what they've hung their hat on, right, Greg.

1059
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 2: I mean, even last year they got to the conference

1060
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,839
Speaker 2: championship with a defense that was, like you said, it's

1061
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,839
Speaker 2: just okay, but they had the ability. The thing they

1062
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 2: did well was turn turnovers out. They did it consist

1063
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 2: all the way through the season. They did that. They

1064
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 2: were consistently winning the turnover battle, and that was good.

1065
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 10: Enough that every year. You know, that's the It's hard

1066
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 10: to go into a season and say we're gonna get

1067
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 10: forty turnovers this year, right, you know, that's something you

1068
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 10: can't really say, you.

1069
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 2: Know, right, And that's been the difference of late now

1070
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 2: the Bills of you know, the playmaking defense. You know,

1071
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 2: Benford is the point example, a touchdown in each of

1072
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 2: the last two weeks of the first Bills and player

1073
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:54,240
Speaker 2: in hit team history to have back to back defensive touchdowns,

1074
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 2: all of that. That's been their their motuves opera modus operandi.

1075
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:03,359
Speaker 2: They either get turnovers or they have some guy one guy,

1076
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 2: this guy, that guy, Epanessa tipping the ball or Jordan

1077
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:11,840
Speaker 2: Phillips tipping the ball, somebody makes a play on a

1078
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 2: game where they were getting lumped up.

1079
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 10: Yeah, and and look, those plays count. And the Bedford

1080
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:20,879
Speaker 10: play was just a great athletic play. It's funny because

1081
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 10: they actually ran the exact same pressure to get a

1082
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 10: sack late in the first half with Bedford coming off

1083
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 10: the boundary corner, and then they ran that play, you know,

1084
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 10: and it's a great play. You're not taking anything away

1085
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 10: from that play, but that's not necessarily a play you say, oh,

1086
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 10: we're gonna we're gonna make that play, you know. And

1087
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 10: then the next the very first play on the next series,

1088
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 10: the ball gets tipped and you know it could get

1089
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 10: tipped and go somewhere else. You can't, you know, you

1090
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 10: can't count on those kinds of plays. But hey, in

1091
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 10: that game, it worked, you know. So we'll look, they're

1092
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 10: nine and four. We'll see where it goes. I mean,

1093
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 10: obviously we can turn our attention out of this week

1094
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 10: they're playing a team that's played extremely well. What if

1095
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 10: they won, it's a nine in a row.

1096
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:05,919
Speaker 2: Ten, I think it's ten. Ten me, it's ten. Yeah,

1097
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 2: we've been talking about it all the week day. And

1098
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 2: this is the thing too. You tell me, Greg as

1099
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 2: you've been around maybe as long as me, this Patriot

1100
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 2: team and Vrabel and his countenance on the sideline and

1101
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 2: the way they win and the way they play, and

1102
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 2: certainly they have not you know, they've got the easiest

1103
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 2: strength to schedule in the league, so they haven't really

1104
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:29,800
Speaker 2: had a gauntlet. But nevertheless, ten in rows, ten in

1105
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 2: a row, and they're playing and see if you think

1106
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:34,760
Speaker 2: this the same thing. This is exactly like an old

1107
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 2: Bill Parcells team. They just don't beat themselves. They're zero

1108
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 2: mistake and when they get to make a mistake, it's like,

1109
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 2: you know, it's like the worst possible thing in the world.

1110
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 2: You go off the sidelin, it's like the first mistake

1111
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 2: you've seen in two weeks, you know what I mean.

1112
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 2: They're just very rare.

1113
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 10: Yeah, they're they're a They're just a solid, fundamentally sound

1114
00:55:57,600 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 10: football team. I'm sure a lot of people didn't Expectdrake

1115
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 10: May to take this kind of leap in his second year.

1116
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 10: But you know, Josh McDaniels has been doing this a

1117
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 10: long time. I love the way he coaches Drake May.

1118
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:12,399
Speaker 10: He's not simplifying the game for him. He's actually giving

1119
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:15,360
Speaker 10: him everything and allowing him to develop as a quarterback.

1120
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 4: You know.

1121
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 10: The one thing he does extremely well with him is

1122
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 10: there's a lot of the same concepts that they get

1123
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 10: to in many different ways. But the concepts are the same.

1124
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 10: And Steve, you know this from when you played. You know,

1125
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 10: that's the way the past game is most effectively taught.

1126
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 10: You deal in concepts and then it's just a matter

1127
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 10: of how you get to them. You can get to

1128
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:38,360
Speaker 10: them from multiple personnel packages, all kinds of different formation looks,

1129
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 10: motion shifts. But the concepts are the concepts. And I

1130
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 10: think they do a great job with Drake May and

1131
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:47,240
Speaker 10: that so that it doesn't you know, overload his brain,

1132
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 10: you know. And you know how it is when it's

1133
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:52,799
Speaker 10: third and let's say eight, the quarterback's not expecting, you know,

1134
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,839
Speaker 10: a potential of thirty possible play calls. He's expecting the

1135
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 10: five or six that you practiced all week, you know.

1136
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 10: And I sometimes I think fans think, oh, well, there's

1137
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 10: thirty plays to choose from. That's not the way it is.

1138
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 10: You know. My guess is Drake May and pretty much

1139
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 10: every situation almost knows without even hearing the play call,

1140
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:14,399
Speaker 10: you know from Josh what it's going to be, because

1141
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 10: it's only going to be one of five or six concepts,

1142
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 10: and then it's just a matter of how we running it.

1143
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 10: You know, what's the formation? Is there, emotion? You know

1144
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 10: that kind of thing. So I think they've done a

1145
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 10: really really good job with him, and he plays very comfortably.

1146
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 4: Correct me if I'm wrong, Greg, But isn't that idea

1147
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 4: of getting to the same concepts from all different formations

1148
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 4: a lot of what Josh McDaniels did with Tom Brady

1149
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 4: And it's to me, Yeah, So it's I guess what,

1150
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 4: like how I wanted to ask this piggybacking off that,

1151
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 4: what did you think of Drake May coming into the

1152
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 4: NFL out of the draft just in the twenty twenty

1153
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 4: four class And have you been impressed? Did you expect

1154
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 4: him to have this much on his plate and execute

1155
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 4: as efficiently as he had entering this game?

1156
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 10: Well? In many ways, yes, Chris, And I'll tell you why.

1157
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 10: Because the quarterback coach at UNC when Drake May was

1158
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 10: there was Clyde Christensen. And Clyde Christensen I've known him

1159
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 10: for years. He coached Tom Brady, coached Andrew Lucky, coach

1160
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 10: Peyton Manning. And I was actually down at UNC. It

1161
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 10: was the year after Drake was gone, but Clyde was

1162
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 10: still there on that staff, and we talked quite a

1163
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 10: bit and he told me that this kid is going

1164
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 10: to make it. That there's no question in his mind.

1165
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 10: Just the kind of personality is, how smart he is,

1166
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 10: how mentally tough he is. So I'm not surprised, and

1167
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 10: I liked his traits a lot. There were a couple of,

1168
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 10: you know, things in his game that I thought needed correcting,

1169
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 10: but they were coachable things. And by the way, no

1170
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 10: quarterback in college comes out as a finished product. I

1171
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 10: mean sometimes fans think that, particularly if a guy plays

1172
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 10: well early, oh man, this guy's great. But you know,

1173
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 10: you know, Chris, you've been doing this a long time.

1174
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 10: You do a lot of college work. No quarterback is

1175
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 10: a finished product coming out of college football. The games

1176
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 10: are totally different, so there's always something to work on

1177
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 10: to keep getting better at. You know, look, even the

1178
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 10: great quarterbacks in this league. I guarantee if you talk

1179
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 10: to defensive coordinators you know, who have to play against

1180
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 10: Josh or Patrick Mahomes, they tell you the one or

1181
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 10: two things that they're not great at that they feel

1182
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 10: if they put together the right game plan that they

1183
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 10: can minimize. You know. So no one is you know,

1184
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 10: a ten in every category. But I really like to

1185
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 10: Drake May's talent. I really like the way he played,

1186
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 10: so I'm not surprised that he's developed, particularly with a

1187
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 10: coach like Josh McDaniels who's been doing this a long time.

1188
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:37,920
Speaker 10: And I'm a believer in that. I think, you know,

1189
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 10: I think about this with Tennessee, and not that we're

1190
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 10: going to spend time talking about Tennessee, but that the

1191
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 10: biggest thing they have to do is get someone in

1192
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 10: that building with the absolute point of making cam Ward great.

1193
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 10: Anything else is pointless because they're all going to be

1194
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 10: fired in two or three years if it doesn't happen.

1195
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, perfect segue there about Drake May.

1196
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 4: That for this quick follow up, what are any weaknesses

1197
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 4: that you've noticed of his on film that maybe Bill's

1198
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 4: fans can be looking for in this game.

1199
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 10: On Sunday, well, I thought when he came out, and

1200
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 10: I think he's improved that in the league, he was

1201
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 10: a drifter Chris. He would tend when he dropped back

1202
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 10: in the pocket to drift predominantly to his left. And

1203
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 10: what that does, of course, is you create your own

1204
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 10: pressure sometimes because the offensive line is blocking a certain

1205
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 10: way and they're expecting you to be in a given

1206
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 10: spot based on the play call, especially if it's you know,

1207
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 10: drop back or play action or you're going straight back

1208
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 10: into the pocket, and if you start drifting, you create

1209
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 10: your own pressure and you make throws harder than they

1210
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 10: need to be. And he had a tendency in college

1211
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 10: to do that. And what you do then, because you

1212
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 10: start to feel the bodies you start to feel squeezed,

1213
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 10: is you start to rush your throws. And then when

1214
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 10: you rush your throws, you lose accuracy. And there were

1215
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 10: times in college where his ball location I'm sure you

1216
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 10: saw this where his ball location wasn't exactly what you

1217
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 10: wanted it to be because you start to rush. And

1218
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 10: I think that that's definitely a coachable thing. Every once

1219
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 10: in a while he'll do that, but it's better than

1220
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:04,800
Speaker 10: it was in college.

1221
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 2: So we just got the final practice report. It looks like, uh,

1222
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:13,920
Speaker 2: Christian Benford, Terrell Bernard, and Joshua Palmer are all questionable

1223
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 2: for Sunday. Benford, I don't know if you knew. Christian

1224
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 2: Benford got a tow injury yesterday and he Bernard and

1225
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 2: Palm are all questionable. But it looks like Bosa is

1226
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 2: good to go, Spencer Brown is good to go for

1227
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 2: the Bills on Sunday. But as you said, Bosa is

1228
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 2: a pretty good is a good player and has been

1229
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 2: really good, probably the most effective and consistent defensive lineman

1230
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:38,439
Speaker 2: for the Bills, certainly a pass rusher. But do does

1231
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:41,920
Speaker 2: is there anybody else that you're really worried about losing

1232
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 2: or having on the field, because, as you said, this

1233
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:47,600
Speaker 2: Bill's defense is you know, it's eleven guys. There is

1234
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 2: no real games. Yeah, so you do you worry about

1235
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 2: the injury report that much?

1236
01:01:56,040 --> 01:02:00,120
Speaker 10: Well, you know, if Bedford can't go, he'll be the

1237
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 10: outside corner.

1238
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 2: Then you know it'll probably be Trey White and Max

1239
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 2: Harston and Hareskin.

1240
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 10: Yeah, and then Harston will play all the snaps instead

1241
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 10: of in rotation. Yeah, and uh, look, you know that's

1242
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 10: he just got to then live with it. I mean,

1243
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 10: you know, I think I think what they'll try to

1244
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 10: do is just slowed down the mental processing for May

1245
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 10: As I said, what what Shawn's really good at is

1246
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 10: is changing the picture, and uh, you know he actually

1247
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 10: did it a lot against Borrow and Burrow's Burrow. I mean,

1248
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 10: he's one of those guys. Borrow's a computer chip. You know,

1249
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 10: there's not many guys like Burrow who can see it

1250
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:36,440
Speaker 10: just you know, it just happens. It's you know, it's

1251
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 10: an eight, it's you know, it's there are guys like

1252
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:40,920
Speaker 10: that in every sport. You know, I probably show in

1253
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:43,439
Speaker 10: my age, but you guys, I know, Steve, you'll you'll

1254
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 10: know this. But I mean, you can't just say to

1255
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 10: a guy, we'll see the ice like Wayne Gretzky. You know,

1256
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 10: some guys can do that. Some guys can you know,

1257
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 10: Borrow is one of those guys. You know. But I

1258
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 10: think you'll you'll see Sean do a lot of that

1259
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 10: and hope that he's just slows down the process for Drake.

1260
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 4: May On the Patriots side, Greg, I want to ask

1261
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 4: you on the defensive side of the ball, they have

1262
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 4: some injuries too. Robert Splaine dealing with an injury Harold

1263
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 4: Landry and looking at it from an analytics perspective, And

1264
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 4: I know you're mostly film, but I'm looking at it

1265
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 4: as the Patriots last year were thirty first in EPA

1266
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 4: per play allowed on defense, now they're tenth. What have

1267
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 4: you seen from watching Patriots defensive film that you think

1268
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 4: are the core reasons for such a seismic jump from

1269
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 4: the one of the worst defenses in football to truly

1270
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 4: one of the best this year.

1271
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 10: Well, I hate to show my ignorance, but I don't

1272
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:38,200
Speaker 10: even know what that means what you said. But about EPA,

1273
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:39,160
Speaker 10: why were they bad?

1274
01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 2: Why were they bad last year? Why are they good

1275
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:41,480
Speaker 2: this year?

1276
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 5: Pretty much that's what I well.

1277
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 10: First of all, I think they got better in terms

1278
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:48,920
Speaker 10: of talent. I mean, you know, I know he missed

1279
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 10: some time and I don't know if he's due. I

1280
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:53,840
Speaker 10: guess he's not due. Bad for this game either, Milton Williams.

1281
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 10: But Milton Williams was a major upgrade on their defensive front.

1282
01:03:57,000 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 10: Barmoor has played exceptionally well this season. Splaine is one

1283
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 10: of those guys. He may not be a household named Chris,

1284
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 10: but I gotta tell you when he was in Pittsburgh.

1285
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 10: He ended up being the guy, the linebacker that never

1286
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 10: came off the field with all these other so called

1287
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 10: high draft choice players. As you know, Spelaane never came

1288
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 10: off the field. He was terrific with the Raiders. He's

1289
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 10: a really really good player. If he can't go, I mean,

1290
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:22,680
Speaker 10: I don't know if he's injured enough where he can't go,

1291
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 10: but he's really good. And they're really good at corner.

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Speaker 10: I mean, they've you know, Gonzalez Davis, They're really good

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Speaker 10: at corner, believe it or not. The one area where

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Speaker 10: there they've been bad this year is the red zone.

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Speaker 10: Now you got to get there obviously, but they've not

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Speaker 10: been a good red zone defense at all.

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Speaker 2: One of the last things, not one last thing, but

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Speaker 2: this I want to talk about Drake may Is in

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Speaker 2: the MVP conversation. He's had that kind of year. He's

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Speaker 2: playing at a high level, and so you kind of

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Speaker 2: view the Patriots in that respect a lot like teams

1302
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:56,480
Speaker 2: view the Bills. How far have the Patriots gone? And

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Speaker 2: I know that Josh McDaniel has, you know, done what

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01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:03,840
Speaker 2: he's done about protecting him. It seems they start with

1305
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Speaker 2: protection first and foremost and whatever happens. Drake May is

1306
01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 2: like an egg man. They do not want to get

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01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:14,480
Speaker 2: him cracked, and that they've done a really nice job

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01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 2: of giving him plenty of time to see it, study

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01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 2: it and throughout.

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Speaker 10: And you know, to me, I remember this goes back

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01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 10: I don't know fifteen eighteen years when I had a

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Speaker 10: conversation with John Gruden and he said something to me

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Speaker 10: that has always resonated, and he says, you have no

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01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:35,480
Speaker 10: pass game without protection. And you know the bottom line is, yeah,

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01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 10: what every coach like to send five out? Of course

1316
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 10: they would because you have five eligibles. But if you

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Speaker 10: can't protect your quarterback, then you have no pass game.

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Speaker 10: And you're right, Steve, Now, now Will Campbell is out,

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01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 10: you know, so you know, maybe that's an area that

1320
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 10: they can exploit to some degree, especially if Bosa is back.

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01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:55,120
Speaker 10: You know, but you want to try to speed him up.

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01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:57,800
Speaker 10: You know, I think with quarterbacks, look sacks are great

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01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:01,040
Speaker 10: and people respond to, oh we had six, but you're

1324
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:03,920
Speaker 10: trying to speed up the quarterback. You know, you're trying

1325
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 10: to just get him to because you know how it is.

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01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:09,440
Speaker 10: I mean, for a quarterback, they don't have a lot

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01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:11,880
Speaker 10: of time to begin with. And if they feel that

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01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 10: they have to play faster when they only have, you know,

1329
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 10: two point five seconds to begin with, everything starts to

1330
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 10: happen way too fast. And you know that that's where

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01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 10: the changing the picture pre to post snap becomes a

1332
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 10: bigger deal. Everything sort of becomes a domino effect. So

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01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 10: you just want to see if you can squeeze the pocket,

1334
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 10: get bodies around him, but you still have to be

1335
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:35,520
Speaker 10: aware he can run. He's a very good scrambler. Last

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01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 10: one to be aware of that too. You have to

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01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 10: account for that.

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Speaker 5: Sure.

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01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 4: That one for me, which is again kind of a

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01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 4: segue from that, and I'm going to start with an

1341
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:45,040
Speaker 4: observation of mind. You tell me if you're seeing the

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01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:48,160
Speaker 4: same thing, greg or you're not everything else that you

1343
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:50,880
Speaker 4: laid out about Drake May, I've been super impressed.

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01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:52,120
Speaker 5: I was a big fan of his coming out of

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01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:53,000
Speaker 5: North Carolina too.

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01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:56,120
Speaker 4: The one area that I think he's still playing like

1347
01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:59,920
Speaker 4: a second year pro this season is taking sacks and

1348
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 4: maybe I don't want to say necessarily drifting into pressure.

1349
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 4: Have you seen the same thing where there's maybe a

1350
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 4: few plays where he needs to throw the football away

1351
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 4: And that was a problem early on for Josh Allen too.

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01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 10: Yeah, No, he gets sacked too much. I think he's

1353
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:14,400
Speaker 10: second or third in the league and number of sacks,

1354
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 10: And yeah, he does get sacked too much. And you

1355
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 10: know that very often that can be a function of

1356
01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:23,920
Speaker 10: you know, for whatever reason, you just don't see it

1357
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:26,960
Speaker 10: as cleanly as you like and then you end up,

1358
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:31,560
Speaker 10: you know, getting sacked. So we'll see. Look, they need

1359
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:34,240
Speaker 10: to like I said, it's not a matter of sacks

1360
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 10: in this game, but you just want to speed him.

1361
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 10: You got to speed him up pressure because if he's comfortable,

1362
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:40,520
Speaker 10: because he's a very easy thrower, Chris, as you know,

1363
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:43,600
Speaker 10: he doesn't work hard for the ball. He just looks

1364
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 10: like a very calm, comfortable player, and you know you

1365
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 10: want to get him out of that. Now, the run

1366
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:51,240
Speaker 10: game has had moments this year, but it hasn't been

1367
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:53,640
Speaker 10: I'm sure what they've hoped. So you just don't want

1368
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:55,160
Speaker 10: this to be the week that they feel like they

1369
01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:58,840
Speaker 10: get their run game going. But you know, the Bills,

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01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 10: you know, everybody talks about Josh and he's so good.

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01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 10: But you know, every week I watch him and I

1372
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:07,920
Speaker 10: just sometimes I sit there and creage thinking, God, is

1373
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:11,000
Speaker 10: it just is are they just waiting for Josh to

1374
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:14,360
Speaker 10: make these incredible plays, which he's capable of. But it

1375
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:17,679
Speaker 10: just that's hard. That's a hard road to hoe every week.

1376
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:20,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. It's a it's a very very fine

1377
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:22,800
Speaker 2: line to walk if you're gonna ask your guy to

1378
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:25,080
Speaker 2: do that, because it's it's not just about him. If

1379
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:26,760
Speaker 2: he gets the ball out of his hands, somebody's got

1380
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:29,120
Speaker 2: to be there to catch it. And yeah, it's a

1381
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:31,360
Speaker 2: it's a high wire act waiting to drop, right.

1382
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 10: Yeah, so we'll see. I mean this is look, obviously

1383
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 10: this is a huge game for the Patriots. They win,

1384
01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:39,439
Speaker 10: they win the division, which would mean the first time

1385
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:41,000
Speaker 10: in what four or five years that it's not the

1386
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:43,120
Speaker 10: Bill something like that, whatever it is, you guys would know.

1387
01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:47,080
Speaker 10: But whereas if they win, not that they've clinched anything,

1388
01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 10: but then they still have a legit shot to win

1389
01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:52,720
Speaker 10: the division and they're a step closer to the playoffs.

1390
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:55,200
Speaker 2: All right, Greg, thanks, I appreciate it. Thanks for joining us.

1391
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:56,200
Speaker 2: We'll talk to you next week.

1392
01:08:57,240 --> 01:08:58,400
Speaker 10: All right, guys, thanks so much.

1393
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:01,400
Speaker 2: Great to be with NFL Film senior producer Greg co Cell,

1394
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:05,479
Speaker 2: also co host of ESPN NFL Matchup. It's always good

1395
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 2: to have him on.

1396
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:10,240
Speaker 4: I love when when our producer Jay emails me and says, hey,

1397
01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:11,880
Speaker 4: we need you to fill in on a Friday, because

1398
01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:13,479
Speaker 4: I know I'm going to be able to pick the

1399
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:15,519
Speaker 4: brain of Greg Co Salvings on every week.

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01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:17,679
Speaker 2: We're going to take a call. Mark from West Seneca

1401
01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:21,080
Speaker 2: has been waiting patiently for a long time. Mark, thanks

1402
01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 2: for holding on. What's on your mind?

1403
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:27,560
Speaker 11: Hey, Steve A. Chris Chris, nice to see you again. Thanks.

1404
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:30,880
Speaker 11: I don't mean to be that fan that complains about

1405
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:34,400
Speaker 11: the refereeing constantly, but I'm not afraid of New England.

1406
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:38,200
Speaker 11: I truly believe we're better than them. But when you

1407
01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:41,439
Speaker 11: look back on the last game we played against them,

1408
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 11: and I'm not blaming the refereeing for the loss, Don't

1409
01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:46,559
Speaker 11: get me wrong. I'm one of those people that says,

1410
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 11: you gotta gotta play past the referee no matter what's

1411
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:52,840
Speaker 11: going on, but they can certainly make the hill harder

1412
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:55,719
Speaker 11: to climb. And when I look back on that game,

1413
01:09:56,680 --> 01:10:00,040
Speaker 11: the subjective calls are what bothers me. You know, the

1414
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:03,840
Speaker 11: bills are at fault with emotion and the illegal formations

1415
01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:06,519
Speaker 11: and those kinds of things, But when you're getting the

1416
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:10,760
Speaker 11: tickie tack calls for holding that you say, that wasn't

1417
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:14,200
Speaker 11: a hold or that was really close. And when you

1418
01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:16,080
Speaker 11: look at the game, there was eight I think it

1419
01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:18,360
Speaker 11: was eight to one at the first half and of

1420
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 11: the first half in penalties against the Bills and against

1421
01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:24,760
Speaker 11: you know, eight for Buffalo, one for New England. And

1422
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:27,000
Speaker 11: then the other part of it is when they make

1423
01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:30,400
Speaker 11: these calls, they certainly made the hill harder to climb

1424
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:34,720
Speaker 11: by I think on three or four of the drives,

1425
01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:37,800
Speaker 11: when the ball was turned you know, changed hands, was

1426
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:41,280
Speaker 11: punted or whatever on the return, instead of getting the

1427
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:43,760
Speaker 11: ball to thirty thirty five, they call a hold and

1428
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:46,720
Speaker 11: march us back to the twelve. We're the fifteen. They

1429
01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:49,640
Speaker 11: did that several times, and then on a couple of

1430
01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:52,760
Speaker 11: the other drives where they didn't do that. The very

1431
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:55,639
Speaker 11: first play from scrimmage was a hold. So now instead

1432
01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 11: of being you know, first and ten, we're at first

1433
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:01,479
Speaker 11: and twenty. My point is that that really makes it

1434
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:06,760
Speaker 11: hard to climb that hill. And I'm really hoping that

1435
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:11,000
Speaker 11: the refereeing stays out of this game, okay, and that

1436
01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:14,360
Speaker 11: we're not looking back and saying here's the one call,

1437
01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:18,559
Speaker 11: here's the two calls that truly changed the game. If

1438
01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:21,519
Speaker 11: the referees just stay out of it, I believe will win,

1439
01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:25,360
Speaker 11: but I'm not expecting it. The history of refereeing with

1440
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 11: us in New England is.

1441
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 2: Not No, it's not it's not good. Thanks Mark Part

1442
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:32,640
Speaker 2: Sorry about that. Yeah, you're right. You go all the

1443
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:35,679
Speaker 2: way back to the just give it to him game. Yes,

1444
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:39,880
Speaker 2: you're right. Uh, I don't. Most players and coaches will

1445
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:42,000
Speaker 2: tell you they don't care if they're calling tickie tax

1446
01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:43,760
Speaker 2: stuff or whatever, as long as they call the same

1447
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:44,360
Speaker 2: both ways.

1448
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 5: Sure.

1449
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:47,519
Speaker 2: The problem is some game you get into these games

1450
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:50,840
Speaker 2: and it seems tilted. Like you said, it was eight

1451
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 2: penalties for Buffalo against Buffalo and one for New England

1452
01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:57,799
Speaker 2: and halftime of the first game. What are you talking about?

1453
01:11:57,880 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 2: So I'm kind of with you on that.

1454
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:03,000
Speaker 4: The Bill's got penalized eleven times in that game against

1455
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:06,240
Speaker 4: New England. And it's been an issue for certain games,

1456
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:08,519
Speaker 4: especially in the Bill's four losses, where it seems like

1457
01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:12,280
Speaker 4: more penalties than what has become customary.

1458
01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:13,040
Speaker 5: During the Sean McDermott era.

1459
01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:16,559
Speaker 4: But the last two weeks seven against the Steelers, six

1460
01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:19,320
Speaker 4: against the Cincinnati Bengals last week, So the Bills have

1461
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 4: been a little bit more clean in the penalty department,

1462
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:24,559
Speaker 4: and that obviously on the road in a huge game

1463
01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:28,160
Speaker 4: with a lot of AFC stakes on the line, I

1464
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:30,120
Speaker 4: think that would obviously go a long way to not

1465
01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:31,680
Speaker 4: have double digit penalties for the bit.

1466
01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:33,800
Speaker 2: We're going to take a break. Roger from Lockport. We'll

1467
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:35,920
Speaker 2: get to you next after this break. Steve Tash for

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01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:38,760
Speaker 2: Christrapasso on One Bill's Live. You're listening to Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 2: in a minute. Time now for the tail a tag

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Speaker 2: got a couple of away games before we get to

1477
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Speaker 2: another home game at all. But we do have one

1478
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Speaker 2: submission for what somebody is thinking about this week. Hold on,

1479
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:31,040
Speaker 2: I just absolutely over it enlarged. Here we go. This

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Speaker 2: is from Jack for an icy cold Sunday feels like

1481
01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:35,439
Speaker 2: a comfort food day During the game, I am slow

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01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:39,759
Speaker 2: cooking some creamy homemade chicken noodle soup overnight with grilled

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Speaker 2: cheese sandwiches, then for after, then for after, making a

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Speaker 2: get into the tailgating atmosphere when it's when it's an

1487
01:13:57,840 --> 01:14:00,360
Speaker 2: away game, but I get it.

1488
01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:04,240
Speaker 4: So what we're doing at the Trepasso House Sunday certainly

1489
01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:06,519
Speaker 4: inspired by the Bill's Hallmark movie. We're doing a Bill's

1490
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:08,760
Speaker 4: holiday tailgate. It's just gonna be in the house. We're

1491
01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:11,080
Speaker 4: not gonna be sitting outside. I mean I would sit outside,

1492
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:13,400
Speaker 4: but I don't think our guests would want to. I'm

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01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:18,160
Speaker 4: doing Hamburger sliders or cheeseburger sliders. I'm gonna get Kings

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Speaker 4: Hawaiian rolls. I'm gonna actually stop at this Wegmans right

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01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:22,519
Speaker 4: over here in Orchard Park to get some of the

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Speaker 4: ground beef and doing an egg and sausage with hash

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Speaker 4: brown on the bottom. Cast a role, some fruit, some

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Speaker 4: juice for the kids. There's gonna be a bunch of

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Speaker 4: kids running around everyone in their bills stuff. So it's

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Speaker 4: like me being able to kill time before a game,

1501
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:38,599
Speaker 4: which to me like before the game. You know, it's

1502
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:40,640
Speaker 4: even I mean as a player, it marks must have

1503
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:42,960
Speaker 4: been tough. It's not a fun time. I want to

1504
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:46,160
Speaker 4: do be occupied as long as possible up until one o'clock.

1505
01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:49,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I see, Yeah, that's the way it works. All right,

1506
01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:51,000
Speaker 2: let's take a phone call. Go to the phones. Roger's

1507
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:53,280
Speaker 2: been waiting for more than just a minute. Roger, thanks

1508
01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:54,800
Speaker 2: for being patient. What's on your mind?

1509
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:59,639
Speaker 9: Good afternoon, gentlemen. You know you talk about tailgate mails.

1510
01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:02,800
Speaker 9: Have to one up you all. It's the first My

1511
01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:04,840
Speaker 9: family's all going to be in town and we're of

1512
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:06,720
Speaker 9: a Thanksgiving dinner after.

1513
01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:08,599
Speaker 2: The Game's awesome, Roger.

1514
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 9: Yeah. So my first thing I just want to say

1515
01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:16,719
Speaker 9: is how much of Cole Bishop's ascension and his play

1516
01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:21,599
Speaker 9: is strictly because of Jordan Ployer. You know, since Jordan's

1517
01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:25,720
Speaker 9: came in the game, Cole's game is skyrocketed. And then

1518
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 9: my other question is I feel it's the first time

1519
01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 9: in many, many years we have a controversy. We have

1520
01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:38,320
Speaker 9: a controversy between Terry Bernard and Shaq Thompson. I think

1521
01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:42,519
Speaker 9: Shaq has brought our defense around. He's stouter against them run.

1522
01:15:43,160 --> 01:15:46,600
Speaker 9: I think he changes the whole way our defense plays.

1523
01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:49,759
Speaker 9: Just wanting to bring those two things up. You guys

1524
01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:51,560
Speaker 9: have a great day and Gobils.

1525
01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:52,960
Speaker 2: Thanks Roger, I appreciate it.

1526
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:53,960
Speaker 5: You have your points there.

1527
01:15:54,280 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Yeah, it's the stuff about Cole Bishop. I think

1528
01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:03,000
Speaker 2: he'll be pretty open to the fact that Poyer has

1529
01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:05,080
Speaker 2: helped him a great deal. And you know, having a

1530
01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:07,400
Speaker 2: guy that knows who can give you a little extra information,

1531
01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:11,240
Speaker 2: a little extra communication on the field because he knows

1532
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:13,880
Speaker 2: so much is huge for you. And it loud and

1533
01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:15,720
Speaker 2: I think you can see it. Cole Bishop's playing with

1534
01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:17,599
Speaker 2: a lot more confidence because of it. It's not one

1535
01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:21,080
Speaker 2: hundred percent because of Jordan Poyer, but every little bit

1536
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:21,559
Speaker 2: does help.

1537
01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:24,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think more specifically, we have to not

1538
01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:28,240
Speaker 4: forget that Cole Bishop missed like three fourths of his

1539
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:31,080
Speaker 4: rookie season and now so in year two is kind

1540
01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:35,000
Speaker 4: of his rookie year. He's learning the nuances, the intricacies

1541
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:39,520
Speaker 4: of Bobby Babbage and Sean mcdermot's offense with the knowledge

1542
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:42,000
Speaker 4: in that safety room of Jordan Poyer where he can

1543
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:44,719
Speaker 4: bounce ideas off of and have questions and ask Jordan

1544
01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:47,360
Speaker 4: Poyer who might know the system better than anyone else,

1545
01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:49,920
Speaker 4: So I think those two things have gone hand in hand.

1546
01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:53,000
Speaker 4: That he's learning the system, he's playing a full season

1547
01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:55,839
Speaker 4: in year two for the first time in his career,

1548
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:58,880
Speaker 4: with Jordan Poyer being there, I think that's been huge.

1549
01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:01,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all. Yeah, let's go back to the phones.

1550
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 2: Kevin in Hamburg. Go ahead, Kevin, what's on?

1551
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:05,920
Speaker 12: Thanks for taking my call?

1552
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:06,280
Speaker 2: You bet.

1553
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 12: I think the biggest thing in this game, in my opinion,

1554
01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 12: is which offensive coordinator out duels the other one. Will

1555
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:20,000
Speaker 12: Joe Brady and experienced Josh Allen out due McDaniel is

1556
01:17:20,040 --> 01:17:22,920
Speaker 12: only a second year guy, or well, like in the

1557
01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:26,840
Speaker 12: first game, beside the turnovers, will Josh the second year guy,

1558
01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:29,559
Speaker 12: I'll do us in our defense. That to me is

1559
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:34,320
Speaker 12: probably the biggest things whoever does because in the first game,

1560
01:17:34,360 --> 01:17:37,760
Speaker 12: beside the turnovers, it looks like we were outdone by

1561
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:40,040
Speaker 12: a second year guy. And of course I know the

1562
01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:41,679
Speaker 12: guy who taught Tom Brady, so.

1563
01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:45,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I'll say this. Yeah, you're right. The offensive

1564
01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:47,479
Speaker 2: coordinators do have a lot to say about it. But

1565
01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:51,240
Speaker 2: in the first game, you look at the quarterbacks play,

1566
01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:53,880
Speaker 2: the quarterback play in the quarterback numbers, it was almost

1567
01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:59,840
Speaker 2: identical except for I believe through the intersection early and

1568
01:17:59,880 --> 01:18:04,760
Speaker 2: that you know that was the difference. And also you

1569
01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:09,120
Speaker 2: had Keon Coleman dropping a pass that gave the Patriots

1570
01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 2: three points because their defense held, gave the Patriots three

1571
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 2: points inside the Bill's ten yard line. And then the

1572
01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:18,639
Speaker 2: Bills turned it over on the first play first drive,

1573
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:20,400
Speaker 2: and then they also turned it over deep in the

1574
01:18:20,439 --> 01:18:22,920
Speaker 2: Patriots end, so that took points off the board, even

1575
01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:24,800
Speaker 2: if it was a field goal for the Bills. So

1576
01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:30,120
Speaker 2: it was a dead even game offensive coordinators and quarterback wise,

1577
01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:32,960
Speaker 2: it was the turnovers on Buffalo's side that really turned

1578
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:35,519
Speaker 2: it in. Like we said before, they had eight penalties

1579
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:37,840
Speaker 2: in the first half to only one for the New

1580
01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:40,200
Speaker 2: England Patriots, so they were kind of dragging a plow.

1581
01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:43,920
Speaker 2: I'll remind you this once again. I did it earlier.

1582
01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:46,960
Speaker 2: It was six to three at halftime. It was an

1583
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 2: absolute slog fest.

1584
01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:52,400
Speaker 4: It was I don't think what Kevin suggested is crazy

1585
01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:55,679
Speaker 4: because these are two pretty evenly matched teams, and he's

1586
01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:58,240
Speaker 4: right that it was only a few plays here or there.

1587
01:18:58,280 --> 01:19:02,040
Speaker 4: But technically Drake made did outduel Josh Allen in that game,

1588
01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:04,280
Speaker 4: and I think what. I'm not going to say it's

1589
01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:06,880
Speaker 4: being overshadowed because it's Josh Allen and it's Drake May.

1590
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:09,320
Speaker 4: But a storyline is these are two of the top

1591
01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:12,280
Speaker 4: four front runners for the MVP.

1592
01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:13,400
Speaker 5: That are the candidates.

1593
01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:16,320
Speaker 4: You have the front runner in Drake May and Josh Allen,

1594
01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:18,200
Speaker 4: depending on what site you look at, he's either the

1595
01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:21,599
Speaker 4: third or the fourth most likely player to win the MVP.

1596
01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:24,960
Speaker 4: So to get that type of quarterback matchup in the

1597
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:28,639
Speaker 4: division in week fifteen kind of makes this already very

1598
01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:30,320
Speaker 4: good match up on paper even juicier.

1599
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:33,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, I would agree.

1600
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:35,000
Speaker 5: I thought you can boil it down.

1601
01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:37,800
Speaker 2: To offensively and statistically, it's a pretty close game, as

1602
01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:40,360
Speaker 2: you would expect from a three point walk off field goal.

1603
01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:44,400
Speaker 2: The turnovers and the penalties kind of tilted in favor

1604
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:48,800
Speaker 2: of the Patriots. Well not kind of they did, but

1605
01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:50,559
Speaker 2: the Bills were at home, so that kind of helped.

1606
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:53,960
Speaker 2: So yeah, it was a dead even heat and the

1607
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:55,960
Speaker 2: Patriots got it with a walk off home run. You

1608
01:19:55,960 --> 01:19:58,800
Speaker 2: look at the tweet sheet from Brody, He's asking, how

1609
01:19:58,840 --> 01:20:02,240
Speaker 2: important is it that we we the Bills establish a

1610
01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:04,400
Speaker 2: run game as quickly as possible.

1611
01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:08,240
Speaker 4: I think it's important. I always say this, and I'm

1612
01:20:08,240 --> 01:20:11,800
Speaker 4: gonna mention it again. You don't necessarily need to have

1613
01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:14,880
Speaker 4: an effective run game to be very good on play action.

1614
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:17,600
Speaker 4: But I do think, and this is kind of my

1615
01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:20,040
Speaker 4: keys to the game that we're going to talk about later.

1616
01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:22,880
Speaker 5: In the show toward the end.

1617
01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:25,160
Speaker 4: I think without Milton Williams, the Patriots are going to

1618
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:27,840
Speaker 4: go into this game having gotten I don't want to

1619
01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:29,880
Speaker 4: say gashed against the run, but not as good against

1620
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:32,120
Speaker 4: the run with him out saying we need to dedicate

1621
01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:33,640
Speaker 4: a lot of bodies in the box. We need to

1622
01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:37,080
Speaker 4: stop James Cook. To me, at least showing that they

1623
01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:40,160
Speaker 4: can run it somewhat effectively. I think the play action

1624
01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:42,719
Speaker 4: game that has been a huge part the last two weeks.

1625
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:45,639
Speaker 4: Josh Allen's been right around fifty percent play action rate

1626
01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:48,799
Speaker 4: and he's been super good. I think it's very important

1627
01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:52,080
Speaker 4: to at least show maybe just its play action or

1628
01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:55,160
Speaker 4: show some run formations, because I think that's the low

1629
01:20:55,160 --> 01:20:57,519
Speaker 4: hanging fruit. If you're the Patriots, we don't want to

1630
01:20:57,520 --> 01:21:00,000
Speaker 4: get run all over without Milton Williams on the field.

1631
01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:02,680
Speaker 2: This from Ed on the tweets sheet, what should the

1632
01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:05,480
Speaker 2: defensive strategy be to limit the pats.

1633
01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:09,320
Speaker 4: Well, like Craik Osel said, and there was one little

1634
01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:12,559
Speaker 4: caveat that he mentioned. In watching Drake May this season,

1635
01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:15,280
Speaker 4: he's looked effortless. He has a strong arm, but it

1636
01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:19,240
Speaker 4: doesn't need him to, you know, cork back and turn

1637
01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:21,599
Speaker 4: his body like he can get the ball twenty thirty

1638
01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:24,360
Speaker 4: yards downfield like Josh can with a flick of a wrist.

1639
01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:27,200
Speaker 4: So I think if you're looking at what's one thing

1640
01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:30,120
Speaker 4: that they need to do being the Bills defense. Like

1641
01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:33,960
Speaker 4: Greg astutely mentioned, speed up the process of a second

1642
01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:36,519
Speaker 4: year quarterback. Drake May has all the traits. I think

1643
01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:40,479
Speaker 4: he has shown a veteran's level ability to grasp a

1644
01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:44,679
Speaker 4: very complex Josh McDaniels offense. But occasionally he holds onto

1645
01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:47,439
Speaker 4: the football too long. And if Sean McDermott is changing

1646
01:21:47,439 --> 01:21:51,120
Speaker 4: the picture post snap and suddenly the first read's covered.

1647
01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:53,559
Speaker 4: In the second read there's a safety there, Suddenly you're

1648
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:55,479
Speaker 4: looking at a pressure and a sack and potentially a

1649
01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:57,400
Speaker 4: fumble that the Bills have gotten over the last couple

1650
01:21:57,439 --> 01:21:57,759
Speaker 4: of weeks.

1651
01:21:58,520 --> 01:22:01,320
Speaker 2: This just in over the social media wire has been

1652
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:04,080
Speaker 2: reported by Adam Schefter. The TJ. Watt's going to be

1653
01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:06,920
Speaker 2: out for Monday night because of the lung injury got

1654
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:09,439
Speaker 2: and it's been reported too it was a dry needle

1655
01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:13,200
Speaker 2: like treatment, like an acupuncture treatment that went too deep.

1656
01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:16,320
Speaker 5: And your best player for a huge game on Monday night.

1657
01:22:16,439 --> 01:22:18,200
Speaker 2: And that's the thing too with the with the Bills.

1658
01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:21,280
Speaker 2: I get what people will say, what's the defensive strategy

1659
01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:23,120
Speaker 2: for the Patriots. You got to you got to get

1660
01:22:23,120 --> 01:22:25,800
Speaker 2: a pass rush on on Drake may get him off

1661
01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:28,120
Speaker 2: his spot moving Listen, the Bills have not shown the

1662
01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:31,800
Speaker 2: ability to do that. So your plan has to be

1663
01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:34,559
Speaker 2: something else other than doing something you haven't been able

1664
01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:37,320
Speaker 2: to do all year. You got to work around your limitations.

1665
01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:40,040
Speaker 2: Joey Bosa will help and you can kind of get

1666
01:22:40,040 --> 01:22:41,920
Speaker 2: a field during game if the if the pass rush

1667
01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:43,559
Speaker 2: is going to be better than you thought it was, okay,

1668
01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:47,720
Speaker 2: then you can change your calls to facilitate that. But

1669
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:54,880
Speaker 2: you've got to be a playmaking, turnover driven defense or

1670
01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:57,840
Speaker 2: or you're asking your guy, your your players to do

1671
01:22:57,880 --> 01:22:59,599
Speaker 2: something they haven't been able to do all season. That's

1672
01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:00,599
Speaker 2: the real problem.

1673
01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:03,679
Speaker 4: And yeah, I mean, obviously, yes, you can say pressure

1674
01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:06,320
Speaker 4: the quarterback. That's true in every game. What I think

1675
01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:08,680
Speaker 4: the spin from that is could say, all right, well,

1676
01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:10,519
Speaker 4: then dial up the blitz if you're seeing in the

1677
01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:12,800
Speaker 4: first quarter, hey, our pass rush is not getting home.

1678
01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:14,960
Speaker 4: I do think it'll be a little bit better than

1679
01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:18,679
Speaker 4: it's been without Will Campbell, potentially without Jared Wilson there

1680
01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:21,519
Speaker 4: starting left guard, who's a rookie who's a good player,

1681
01:23:22,120 --> 01:23:25,679
Speaker 4: and obviously having Bosa back. But against the blitz, Drake

1682
01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:28,759
Speaker 4: May has the second highest passer rating in the NFL.

1683
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:30,920
Speaker 4: So you can't just say, well, just dial up the blitz,

1684
01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:33,360
Speaker 4: and that will totally confuse him. He has shown again

1685
01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:36,120
Speaker 4: that knowledge in the grasp of okay, if a blitz

1686
01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:38,559
Speaker 4: is coming from here, Josh wants me to throw it here.

1687
01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:41,120
Speaker 4: Nke Daniels wants me to throw it there. So it

1688
01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:44,120
Speaker 4: will be difficult for the Bills defense to stop this

1689
01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:47,120
Speaker 4: Patriots offense if that front four can't get home.

1690
01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:49,559
Speaker 2: All right, from Brad last one on the tweet sheet,

1691
01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:52,040
Speaker 2: this is we're gonna I don't want to go down

1692
01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:53,920
Speaker 2: this rabbit hole right now, but we're gonna do this

1693
01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:55,720
Speaker 2: and do it. He says, guys, I'd like to see

1694
01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:58,360
Speaker 2: a rule change that either limits teams to only play

1695
01:23:58,439 --> 01:24:02,479
Speaker 2: one team off coming off their by or even better,

1696
01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:05,240
Speaker 2: have two teams face each other that are both coming

1697
01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:08,160
Speaker 2: off of by. The Bills got stuck playing two teams

1698
01:24:08,160 --> 01:24:10,519
Speaker 2: this year coming off of bye and they were both

1699
01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:11,519
Speaker 2: on the road.

1700
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:14,240
Speaker 5: What was the other game, Houston Atlanta? I think, oh Atlanta.

1701
01:24:14,360 --> 01:24:16,759
Speaker 2: You're right, Alanta was coming off thereby and the Bills.

1702
01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:18,720
Speaker 4: Here's what I would say to that, this is not

1703
01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:21,759
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know if this is the answer,

1704
01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:25,799
Speaker 4: but I feel like today with AI and chat GPT

1705
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:26,679
Speaker 4: and we'd.

1706
01:24:26,479 --> 01:24:27,240
Speaker 5: Always hear about it.

1707
01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:28,960
Speaker 4: And I know that you guys have on Mike North

1708
01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:31,280
Speaker 4: that like does the whole schedule. I'm not trying to

1709
01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:33,040
Speaker 4: say he shouldn't have a job. He does an amazing

1710
01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:36,720
Speaker 4: job he and his staff every year formulating this two

1711
01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:39,840
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty six game schedule. You would think that

1712
01:24:40,160 --> 01:24:43,000
Speaker 4: you could put that into some AI system and say,

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01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:45,880
Speaker 4: let's make sure that that exact thing that Brad wants

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01:24:46,360 --> 01:24:48,640
Speaker 4: is probably something that coaches grape about where they have

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01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:52,439
Speaker 4: way less rest than the opponent, and it's happening multiple

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Speaker 4: times in a season.

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Speaker 2: By the way, The tweet sheet brought to you by

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Speaker 2: Buffalo Thanks for all your solutions. We appreciate it. That was.

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Speaker 4: Yeah that As a player, were you ever like a

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01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:10,559
Speaker 4: little miffed when you're like, man, we're playing another team

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Speaker 4: where we played four days ago, and.

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Speaker 2: The yeah, thank you you can say that. You can, yes,

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01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:16,680
Speaker 2: you'd say that at the beginning of the years, like

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01:25:16,960 --> 01:25:19,160
Speaker 2: you see it coming. Then it's like you know, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I got no choll let's go.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's true. There's no choice.

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Speaker 2: Just tee it up, let's kick it. And that's that's

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01:25:23,439 --> 01:25:25,800
Speaker 2: about all you could do, right, Just prepare and start

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01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:28,559
Speaker 2: to get ready for it. We'll be back right after

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Speaker 2: this break. We're gonna come back, wrap things up. We're

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01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:33,360
Speaker 2: gonna get Chris Trepasso's Keys to the game. I'll give

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01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:35,280
Speaker 2: you some thoughts I have about this game, and then

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Speaker 2: we're gonna say goodbye to the weekend. We'll see you

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01:25:36,920 --> 01:25:40,040
Speaker 2: on Monday at noon. But right now, this is One

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Speaker 2: Bill's Live presented by Clyde Help. We'll be back after

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Speaker 2: the break. Welcome back to One Bill's Live. We're here

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Speaker 2: to wrap things up with Collision No, No, I'm sorry.

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01:25:56,600 --> 01:25:59,559
Speaker 2: Vision to Victory. That's my bad vision of victory, presented

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Speaker 2: by Atwall I Care, the official I care provider with

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01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:05,639
Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills. What's your vision to how this game

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Speaker 2: will go?

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Speaker 5: Chris, So I tease this earlier.

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Speaker 4: I think it is the biggest key for Buffalo is

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01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:14,759
Speaker 4: the play action pass game. I think in that Week

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01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:18,200
Speaker 4: five loss the Bills, you'd think, hey, maybe they didn't

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01:26:18,200 --> 01:26:20,200
Speaker 4: really run the ball very well, and they didn't. James

1748
01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:23,320
Speaker 4: Cook only average about three yards of carry, but Josh

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01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:26,519
Speaker 4: Allen was eight of eight for over one hundred yards

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01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:30,599
Speaker 4: with one touchdown and no interceptions on play action. That's

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01:26:30,680 --> 01:26:33,080
Speaker 4: a perfect passer rating of one hundred and fifty eight

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01:26:33,120 --> 01:26:36,320
Speaker 4: point three. And like I mentioned earlier, the last two weeks,

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01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:40,040
Speaker 4: the two highest play action rates in the Joe Brady

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01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:44,400
Speaker 4: era forty six percent against the Pittsburgh Steelers over forty

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01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:47,160
Speaker 4: seven percent last week, and in both of those games

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01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:50,960
Speaker 4: very effective. Josh Allen's passer rating was over one hundred

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01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:53,559
Speaker 4: and thirty in both of those games. So I know

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01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:55,040
Speaker 4: you're going to talk about run game, and I do

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01:26:55,040 --> 01:26:57,920
Speaker 4: think that's important too, but I think pay attention to

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01:26:58,160 --> 01:27:00,880
Speaker 4: what the Bills do in terms of how affect like,

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01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:03,240
Speaker 4: how effective they are, and how good they are. When

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01:27:03,280 --> 01:27:06,840
Speaker 4: Josh Allen fakes the handoff seeing a bunch of Patriots

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01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:08,320
Speaker 4: rushing downfield.

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Speaker 5: Ultimately what he can do in the past game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and as you said, my vision to victory is

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01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:17,200
Speaker 2: the run game for Buffalo. They've got to be able

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01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:20,000
Speaker 2: to run it effectively. They've got to threaten the Patriots

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01:27:20,040 --> 01:27:21,800
Speaker 2: with it. They've got to be productive in it. I

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01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:23,640
Speaker 2: think it's going to be extremely important when they do

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01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:25,320
Speaker 2: get down on the red zone to take advantage of

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01:27:25,360 --> 01:27:29,640
Speaker 2: the New England's inability to stop people. Include Josh in

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01:27:29,760 --> 01:27:32,080
Speaker 2: that if you must. Although in the first game he

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01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:34,760
Speaker 2: didn't have very many cold runs if any. He had nine,

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Speaker 2: maybe nine scrambles to be the leading rusher, but the

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01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:42,160
Speaker 2: Bills still rush for over one hundred yards in that game.

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Speaker 2: I think if you can get that done, particularly in

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Speaker 2: the absence of Milton Williams.

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Speaker 6: And if.

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Speaker 5: Robert Splane, Dlayne and Landry.

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Speaker 2: Aren't there, you have no excuse. You've got to run

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01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:56,479
Speaker 2: the football and dominate the game. Time of possession will

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01:27:56,520 --> 01:27:59,160
Speaker 2: be huge, and of course turnovers you can't fumble the

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01:27:59,160 --> 01:28:02,080
Speaker 2: ball away. But when if the Bills run the football

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01:28:02,120 --> 01:28:06,280
Speaker 2: the way they have in other years another games and

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01:28:06,360 --> 01:28:09,160
Speaker 2: dominate that way, it's all that going to be all

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01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:11,280
Speaker 2: that much easier for Josh to throw the football.

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Speaker 4: Not that I'm expecting it to go the same way

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01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:16,439
Speaker 4: as the game in Pittsburgh against the Steelers, but to

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Speaker 4: your point, like, I think that makes a lot of

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01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:21,240
Speaker 4: sense for Buffalo to go into this game, especially if

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Speaker 4: Harrow Landry and or Robert Spalane are also out beyond

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01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:28,720
Speaker 4: Milton Williams, to just run the football. Test this Patriots

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01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:31,679
Speaker 4: defense against the run that has just not been nearly

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01:28:31,720 --> 01:28:34,599
Speaker 4: as good with the absence of Milton Williams, and maybe

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01:28:34,600 --> 01:28:36,760
Speaker 4: they come out and James Cook is able to gash them,

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01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:39,000
Speaker 4: and you can call a few designed runs to get

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01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:41,400
Speaker 4: Josh Allen involved in the run game as well, because

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Speaker 4: you're coming off a game where Josh Allen was Superman.

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Speaker 4: We heard Greg Coseel say, you know, maybe the Bills

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01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:49,280
Speaker 4: can't always live on that. Yeah, And so come out

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01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:51,680
Speaker 4: establish the run and see if it can be the

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01:28:51,720 --> 01:28:53,760
Speaker 4: most effective way and the safest way for you to

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01:28:53,800 --> 01:28:54,400
Speaker 4: move the football.

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Speaker 2: And it's not always the same in it, but you

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01:28:56,760 --> 01:28:58,639
Speaker 2: look back at the two hundred and forty nine yards

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01:28:58,680 --> 01:29:01,720
Speaker 2: they hung on Pittsburgh. Patriots run a three to four

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01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:03,960
Speaker 2: defense just like Pittsburgh did, so the Bills have had

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01:29:03,960 --> 01:29:07,320
Speaker 2: some success against that alignment of the defense. We'll see

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01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:09,960
Speaker 2: if they can duplicate it. I kind of it's not

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01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:12,840
Speaker 2: going to be easy. The Patriots are so solid. They

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01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:16,000
Speaker 2: play mistake free football. And the Patriots are much much

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01:29:16,040 --> 01:29:19,880
Speaker 2: better at the corners than the Steelers were, you know,

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Speaker 2: a month ago, so they've got that to deal with

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Speaker 2: as well. I'll say this though, the Bills have not

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01:29:25,120 --> 01:29:27,320
Speaker 2: relied and leaned on their wide receivers as much as

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01:29:27,320 --> 01:29:29,840
Speaker 2: they have their tight ends running backs of late. You

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01:29:29,880 --> 01:29:31,160
Speaker 2: can be as good as you want on the edges.

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Speaker 2: We don't throw those guys.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think our points are mentality, Yeah, Like

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01:29:34,439 --> 01:29:37,599
Speaker 4: I think our points are aligned because the Bills can

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01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:40,479
Speaker 4: come out with the same formation with Dawson Knox, with

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01:29:40,560 --> 01:29:44,320
Speaker 4: Dalton Kincaid, with Jackson Hawes, play action or run the football.

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01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:46,880
Speaker 4: So I think to be kind of disguised for the

1824
01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:49,479
Speaker 4: Patriots defense and not know what the Bills are going

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01:29:49,520 --> 01:29:51,840
Speaker 4: to do will be huge throughout the course of this game.

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Speaker 2: All right, Steve Tasker, Christapaus will run and wrap it up.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you at noon on Monday. Chris Brown will

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01:29:56,520 --> 01:29:59,000
Speaker 2: be back. Good luck to the Bills. Go bills on

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01:29:59,080 --> 01:30:05,360
Speaker 2: Sunday at one against the Pagers. We'll talk to you Monday, yeah.

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Speaker 6: Im