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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: Home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to the Drive. I'm Dale Lollly here with Matt

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Speaker 1: Williamson and Matt It is mocked draft time here, Mock

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Speaker 1: draft Monday. Draft Monday. We only got a couple of

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Speaker 1: these left. Yeah, two more one of the next Monday,

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Speaker 1: right yeah. Um, so today we're using the Pro Football

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Speaker 1: Focus fair enough dot com draft because I like their

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Speaker 1: interactive a little bit better. Are you mixing in the

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Speaker 1: consensus stuff? I went more heavier towards the consensus, Yes,

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Speaker 1: because I don't want to cheat and get easy running back. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so our pick is up. Um, the guy's taken right

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Speaker 1: ahead of us at nine. Team was Quitty Pay to

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Speaker 1: the Washington Grigory Rousseau to to Chicago, Terris Marshall to

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Speaker 1: the Colts. Excuse me, Travan mow Ring to the Titans,

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Speaker 1: Jalen Phillips to the Jets. Are falling, we are on

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Speaker 1: the clock. Um let me just take a look here, Bow,

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Speaker 1: Travis A. T N, Javonte Williams, and Nausea Harris all

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Speaker 1: available also available. Um. I think that's very really realistic.

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Speaker 1: Jeremiah Owosu Coramola. I like him a lot. I like

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Speaker 1: him a lot, but I don't know that he fits

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Speaker 1: well with Bush. But they'd be little. Yeah, they'd be small,

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Speaker 1: Rashod Bateman player, but not a not a huge need.

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Speaker 1: Greg Newsom, that would be nice. Um you're looking at

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Speaker 1: Jason Jason Oa Azizolari. I'm sure all the centers are there.

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Speaker 1: Kevin Jenkins available. Jenkins is a really good player, um

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Speaker 1: Zaven Collins available. I mean, there's a lot of guys

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Speaker 1: Nause still would be my pick. We do have a

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Speaker 1: trade back option that would be very much of interest.

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Speaker 1: It is with Tampa Bay. See that's the neighborhood I

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Speaker 1: want to be in. To be honest, it's funny you

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Speaker 1: mentioned this because if I could trade anywhere in the

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Speaker 1: first round, knowing that all three running backs are there,

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Speaker 1: it would be the thirty two because I'll get there

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Speaker 1: getting in ahead of the second round guys that that

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Speaker 1: might go running back. I still have the fifth year option,

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Speaker 1: which I think might be important for a running back

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Speaker 1: because I don't know if I want to sign them

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Speaker 1: pass that. That's the team I'd love to trade with. Well,

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Speaker 1: you want to see what we can I think you

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Speaker 1: can get their second I let's try two sixty four. Yea,

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Speaker 1: let's see if we can get them to sweeten the

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Speaker 1: pot just a little bit with it when of next

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Speaker 1: year's picks like fifth, Yeah, let's see if we can

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Speaker 1: get him to toss. Let's try a four, just just

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Speaker 1: to see, because they're the chap. You're the chap. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you want to you got somebody you want to come

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Speaker 1: up and get trying to wait, Now, let's see what

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Speaker 1: you got because sixty four doesn't have a ton of value.

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Speaker 1: They declined, they did. Ye, let's and sixty four. Let's

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Speaker 1: bump it back. See if they're do it for a

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Speaker 1: fifth round pick. No, okay, that's fine, that's fine. I

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Speaker 1: would that's not a killer for us. We can do Yeah,

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Speaker 1: on the they accepted that. Good did they take I'm

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Speaker 1: just let me get to resume the draft? And they

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Speaker 1: took maybe an edge guy? They were falling like crazy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they took Xavin Collins. Wow, they have linebackers, but well,

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Speaker 1: but how much longer? Are a lot different than the

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Speaker 1: guys they have he is and how much longer is uh?

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Speaker 1: They just gave him money, but how much long is

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Speaker 1: he gonna play? Yeah, David, and three of them could

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Speaker 1: play Collins outside, you know in that Um? Okay, so

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Speaker 1: after so Zaven Collins went to the Tampa caused me

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Speaker 1: the Ravens. Yeah, Travis A. T N goes to the Saints,

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Speaker 1: Javonte Williams went at fifty three, so good. I think

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Speaker 1: Like I like those two. They might be my fourth

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Speaker 1: Dylan Raddin is available, interested, Drill Cox available. I take

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Speaker 1: those two over Cocks. Elijah Molden, good player, Quinn Miners,

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Speaker 1: Kendred green Um, You've got a lot of the center's

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Speaker 1: So um yeah, Miners, Kendrick Green, Um, those are the

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of tackles. I like there of Miners,

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Speaker 1: verse Jamon Davis. I mean, Davis is really really hard. Well,

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Speaker 1: M who else would be on this? Seattle could could,

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Speaker 1: the Rams and all those teams can take Jaman Davis,

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Speaker 1: Quen Miners is the pick, and we're back up on

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Speaker 1: Elijah More goes at fifty seven to the Rams. Bateman

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Speaker 1: you get Rabbins Hikenberg. I feel like it's cheating a little.

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Speaker 1: But people follow every year, you know. Yeah, um, they

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Speaker 1: have to be the first round pick. They have your

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Speaker 1: real cocks at forty seven. I'm sitting there watching NFL

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Speaker 1: that doesn't mean DJ's right, but I don't see him.

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Speaker 1: I don't see him getting out of the top fifty.

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Speaker 1: mean he's the obvious sly I'm dog I felt bad

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Speaker 1: who do you take? You take Ratting's you take? You

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Speaker 1: go offensive tackle? There? You take Rattings? Do you take Eichenberg?

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Speaker 1: They get your Real Cox's rated ranked ahead of jam

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Speaker 1: and Davis. I mean, I guess I could understand that.

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Speaker 1: James Hudson available, Justin Hilliard, Monty Rice, Pete Werner still available. No,

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Speaker 1: let's sake, Davis, I mean, this is what's available. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the rules and whatnot. I mean it's a second round pick.

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Speaker 1: Because my answer was going to be, well who's the

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Speaker 1: next best linebacker? There is a linebacker, so take him,

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Speaker 1: again here. Now A D seven Radin's still available. Not

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Speaker 1: Real Cox still though. There were some weird picks up

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Speaker 1: those ones right, But we're not gonna we're out of

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Speaker 1: the did real Cox sweep Elijah Wulden available? In Aikenberg

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Speaker 1: still available, um aikenverg Eikenberg versus Ratten's. Who are you taking?

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Speaker 1: I think Rabbin's has a chance to play all five positions.

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Speaker 1: We mentioned that on Yeah, he's he's the better athlete.

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Speaker 1: Eikenberg's maybe the more polished guy. But there's some like

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Speaker 1: but he also might be a guard. M hm, he's

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Speaker 1: I think Steelers better athlete. Yeah, and you might not

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Speaker 1: have to play this year. Let's take him? Yes, all right?

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Speaker 1: We just filled. Yeah, now you start looking at edge. Corner.

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Speaker 1: Corner is what I believe the most. But an edge

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Speaker 1: I would not turn my nose up. So you got

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Speaker 1: Jamar Johnson. She always seems to fall in these muck

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Speaker 1: dress he does. Uh. Jamie Sherwood, Uh No, Kendrick Green

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Speaker 1: also dig Azua, Milton Williams still available, Thomas Graham out

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Speaker 1: of Oregon. The cornerback. Um, they're gonna have corners ranked high.

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Speaker 1: I bet there's not much in the way of Kay Johnson,

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Speaker 1: Jalen Darting, Kelvin Joseph still available. It feels like cheating too.

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Speaker 1: They got him ranked eight fifth and we're again, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Benjamin St. Juice, I would take Joseph just a big athlete. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think yeah, I think you take Joseph. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: following the board. I don't think it'll go this well

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Speaker 1: for Pittsburgh. Alright, we're back up um at one forty

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Speaker 1: the top edges this we're at the same spot we've

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Speaker 1: were always at here. Kane Do from Florida State, Malcolm

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Speaker 1: Kunts from Buffalo, Chauncey Goldston, Genarius Robinson, Jonathan Cooper, Jordan's Smith,

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Speaker 1: Charles Snowden, Patrick Jones, Ellison Smith. Um, I like Allison Smith.

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Speaker 1: I kind of like Kane Do, but I like the

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Speaker 1: other Florida State guy better Robinson. He's long, he's athletic.

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Speaker 1: I think he's a good player. I don't think we've

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Speaker 1: ever taken him, but we have not. I'm working on

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Speaker 1: our triple take edge guys. I think both those Florida

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Speaker 1: State guys are in tight ends. Still available. Tommy Tremble nice. Yeah, um,

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Speaker 1: we felt the offense a lot we have I guess

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Speaker 1: mean we've we split it up pretty well here thus far.

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Speaker 1: Would be hard to pass up. He's a pretty good player.

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Speaker 1: I kind of lean towards Robinson. Let me just see

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Speaker 1: he's there four, the first ranked player. We're picked one forty.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand why he sends up lasting that long.

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Speaker 1: Same thing with Sherwood out of Auburn. Kendrick Green take

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Speaker 1: out would be great if we you know, if you

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Speaker 1: could get kind of Green this late in the real world,

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Speaker 1: I would do that. Milton Williams still available. Interesting, Kay Johnson.

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Speaker 1: That's not bad. They'll take him. Banks are starting kickoff

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Speaker 1: that they gave the porter also added a lot of bodies.

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Speaker 1: so we again Nauseare we traded back with Tampa Bay

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Speaker 1: which is wonderful. Yeah, Quinn Miners at fifty five, which

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Speaker 1: gonna get Matt You're gonna get Nausea Harrison and Quinn

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Speaker 1: And even if that's Pete Werner exactly or someone of

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Speaker 1: because that guy's gonna be a started for You's a

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Speaker 1: wouldn't surprise me if one of those top corners fell

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Speaker 1: one forty we get Milton Williams. That's just bonus prize.

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Speaker 1: I mean, everybody that we drafted on here was well below.

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Speaker 1: except for now Jay Harris. Everybody else we took ahead

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Speaker 1: where you get your edge. You get a little trade

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Speaker 1: Because your biggest needs running back, you might not have

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Speaker 1: So funny the lands Airline mentioned that unprovoked. I mean,

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Speaker 1: You know, that year, you know, like there's I really

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Speaker 1: go right, That's where they get they start going off

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Speaker 1: the board. Tacks are in that neighborhood. Tackles other than

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Speaker 1: People gonna start taking bar and edge more likely probably, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: go off the board until tennish, well then those other

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Speaker 1: I don't think that anyone's a trade up for a

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Speaker 1: which is good for the Steelers, but those other positions. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: wait and see what how that breaks down in terms

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Speaker 1: who the Steelers gonna pick it twenty four? I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, they don't know they have again, they

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Speaker 1: have that list of guys available who they who they

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Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean any of those guys. You know, again,

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Speaker 1: they'll have their twenty four. One of those guys is

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Speaker 1: And this goes for us doing these mocks, which are

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Speaker 1: they kind of don't mean anything because one move screws

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Speaker 1: it all up, or you know, a trade somebody somebody

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Speaker 1: trades up. But you didn't expect that Donald trade everything

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Speaker 1: the Niners trade. He put a wrench in every you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna use him as an example because you

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Speaker 1: know he's on he's with the Steelers now. But when

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Speaker 1: Tyson and Lulu went tenth overall, nobody had him going

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Speaker 1: tenth overall. Not even a little bit was who was

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Speaker 1: every year? Who was another one? When uh, I think

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Speaker 1: the forty Niners took or even Cleveland Faroll at four, right,

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Speaker 1: nobody nobody mocked that. Nobody had No nobody else would

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Speaker 1: have taken that guy. And it takes one to screw

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Speaker 1: it up, you know, no question. And in both instances

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Speaker 1: there we're talking about defensive lineman. Yeah, good point. You know.

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Speaker 1: So does somebody, somebody who's really needy at that position say, well,

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Speaker 1: I gotta go up and get Christian Barmore? You know,

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Speaker 1: I mean they only one team has to have a

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Speaker 1: same conversation we are with running backs. We really need

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Speaker 1: a d tackle. There's only one that I want, and

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Speaker 1: we're picking Ay eight or whatever. We can't go you know,

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Speaker 1: and Jags might snag him more. Yeah, you know, someone

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Speaker 1: else might grab so we gotta move up ten spots

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Speaker 1: or we're gonna go up to twenty four and make

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Speaker 1: sure we get him. It also wouldn't shock me if

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Speaker 1: before the draft, you know, there's a lot of rumors

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Speaker 1: that Washington really wants lands or fields. They could give

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Speaker 1: up the farm. Go from where do they pick? Like,

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Speaker 1: go to four and then all of a sudden, you're

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Speaker 1: going crap, Atlanta's picking twenty one. They might take they

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Speaker 1: might or they could go defense. But now they've got

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Speaker 1: a ton of picks. The screws I'll have that could

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Speaker 1: screw you up. At Yeah, that's why. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: have to be light on your feet in these situations.

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Speaker 1: That's and again that's why you know, people always say,

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Speaker 1: we why don't you get the Steelers pick right this year?

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Speaker 1: Picking in the twenties. If I get it right, I

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Speaker 1: should get I should get an award. I mean, even

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Speaker 1: if Kevin was sitting here right now, I bet he

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Speaker 1: could give you five names and it would be right

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Speaker 1: that one of those five will be the Steelers first, right,

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Speaker 1: But it's five names. You've got chance right at five.

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Speaker 1: We love one will come off the board that we

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Speaker 1: didn't know. Three of them will be there that's available.

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Speaker 1: We'll consider trade downs or one is available, right, and

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Speaker 1: then you just take them right. So that's the way

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Speaker 1: it works in an exact science. And you don't know. Again,

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Speaker 1: there's there's so many variables here. Um you know, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, if it's a top ten pick, anybody can

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Speaker 1: nail those right. Question or Jamaar Chase or uh Coyle pits. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well we'll get one of those. We like them all.

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Speaker 1: We know they're gonna be gone and the next they're

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Speaker 1: not gonna By this time next week, we'll probably know

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Speaker 1: pretty pretty sure. We'll be pretty sure who the first

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Speaker 1: three picks are. Yeah, yeah, and then there's a little

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Speaker 1: and then they'll go from there. That's where the draft

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Speaker 1: really starts. And even a week from now, somebody else

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Speaker 1: or you know, you know, I've had this happen before

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Speaker 1: you Um, I would do my final mock draft and

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Speaker 1: I was still working in a newspaper and it's I'm

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Speaker 1: off that Wednesday night before the draft because I'm working

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Speaker 1: the whole draft weekend, and all of a sudden, somebody

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Speaker 1: I gotta go go back in the officite because my

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Speaker 1: my draft hasn't gone yet. Because it doesn't it doesn't

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Speaker 1: go out until Thursday. I got to tear up my

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Speaker 1: whole draft and redo it based on that trade because

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Speaker 1: it changes everything else behind it. I mean, even that

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Speaker 1: Donald trade I had to throw away. We had to

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Speaker 1: do that for our for our draft for Steelers, like

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Speaker 1: the Diner trade. Yeah, I mean, it's a good way

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Speaker 1: of pointing it. I mean it's such a ripple effect

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Speaker 1: of you can't just say, well, I'm just gonna switch

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Speaker 1: these guys out, like these people think a lot different available.

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Speaker 1: It's not just a matter of well, these thirty two

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Speaker 1: guys are first round guys and they're all gonna go

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Speaker 1: and somehow they all build the same puzzles. Realistically, there's

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Speaker 1: forty five guys that could go in the first round easy,

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Speaker 1: if not more. Yeah, I mean we go position by position,

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Speaker 1: there's several. I mean what I like a lot too,

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Speaker 1: is after the first round. I think it's almost like

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Speaker 1: an all new draft again. Everything really had one draft.

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Speaker 1: And if everyone goes home for the night and the

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Speaker 1: Jags have the first pick again and going, wow, there's

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Speaker 1: three really good players. You know. These guys all had

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Speaker 1: first round grades and they did grades, you know, but

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Speaker 1: they easily could have gone wherever. Yeah, that's when the

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Speaker 1: phones will ring again. Yeah, so we're getting closer. When

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Speaker 1: we come back on Wednesday, will be well just over

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Speaker 1: in a week out week. Yeah. I can't wait for that,

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Speaker 1: but that is going. I imagine the drive will go

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Speaker 1: Monday to Monday, Wednesday Friday this week and then Monday

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Speaker 1: Wednesday next week next year. We week out of two

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Speaker 1: weeks out. Today's the twelve. The draft isn't until the

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Speaker 1: twenty ninth, so we are actually two weeks. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're right. You're messing me up with Next week is

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Speaker 1: Earth Day. It's a bigger We got Tax Day on Thursday,

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Speaker 1: which will be the two weeks out from the draft.

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Speaker 1: Then the following week is Earth Day on Thursday. On

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Speaker 1: my little calendar here does not say NFL Draft on

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Speaker 1: the twenty nine, but it should because that's just as

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Speaker 1: big of a holiday. What's tax Day? Change? It's the

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Speaker 1: fifteen's fourth recording this Okay, I thought it changed this

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Speaker 1: year anyways, But that's gonna do it for our show today.

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Speaker 1: So for Matt Williamson, for Jacob ruck here on site

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Speaker 1: keeping us on the air, I'm Dale Lolly. We thank

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Speaker 1: you for listening to this edition of The Drive on

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