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Speaker 1: Welcome In Thursday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton show, Can

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Speaker 1: we start the count now? I think we barely can

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Speaker 1: for long days until Joe Biden is a distant memory

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Speaker 1: of the nation. We will discuss right off the top

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Speaker 1: here in a moment his farewell address, which was basically

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Speaker 1: mangling a large percentage of the words that were written

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Speaker 1: there are a bunch of other things that are out there,

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Speaker 1: the ongoing confirmation hearings of the Trump team, which I

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Speaker 1: would describe honestly as a home run. I mean, the

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Speaker 1: Democrat attempt to levy some blame has just completely failed.

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Speaker 2: We've got all.

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Speaker 1: Sorts of continued fallout out from what we hope is

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Speaker 1: going to be a lasting cease fire that gets the

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Speaker 1: hostages back healthy, and israel An argument over who exactly

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Speaker 1: deserves the credit for all of that.

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Speaker 2: What is Biden's legacy.

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Speaker 1: There is now talk of what exactly will happen with that,

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Speaker 1: and many different aspects associated with that. But I would

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Speaker 1: start with this, Buck, I watched Joe Biden's farewell address

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Speaker 1: to the nation, and it was awful.

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Speaker 2: I mean truly awful.

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Speaker 1: It started with a strange metaphor about the statue of

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Speaker 1: yet it does not fall. I don't know who thought

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Speaker 1: that that was poetic and that that was something that

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Speaker 1: to somehow resonate through history. It feels to me like

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Speaker 1: every time Biden is trying to speak to history, and

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Speaker 1: I know that he has had, unfortunately for him, historians

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Speaker 1: but let's just hammer this home. Historians should never advise you,

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Speaker 1: modern era. And in fact, much of the historical analogies

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Speaker 1: that Biden has drawn, for instance, January sixth, worst day

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Speaker 1: And when he talked about the Georgia voting rights bills,

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Speaker 1: he's really just totally maladroit when it comes to making

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Speaker 1: because I bet most people out there did not watch this.

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Speaker 1: We should also mention, by the way, Ashley Moody, who

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Speaker 1: I believe was the Florida Attorney General, is now going

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Speaker 1: I think that is a very solid choice.

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Speaker 2: Buck.

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Speaker 1: She is now one of your senators. We'll talk about that.

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Speaker 1: But Biden, I think this is important to remember. Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden pardoned his own son despite the fact that his

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Speaker 1: to imprison his chief political rival. And just last week

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Speaker 1: or ten days ago, he gave George Soros a presidential

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Speaker 1: Medal of honor. And yet he's telling us and oligarchy

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Speaker 1: is taking shape in America. Yeah, you have been rewarding

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Speaker 2: Listen to cut eight.

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Speaker 3: I want to warran a country. Some things they've given

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Speaker 3: me great concern. This is a dangerous concert and that's

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Speaker 3: the dangerous conversation of power in the hands of a

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Speaker 3: power is left unchecked. Today oligarch is taking shape in

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Speaker 3: America of extreme wealth, power and influence that literally threatens

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Speaker 2: Okay, I mean this is lunacy.

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Speaker 4: So does George Soros go on the bad list or

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Speaker 4: the good list of the arks? Does ried Hoffman of LinkedIn?

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Speaker 4: Does Jeff Bezos until about five minutes ago. I mean,

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Speaker 4: think about their billionaires are humanitarians? Who are you know,

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Speaker 4: writing huge checks to save democracy or whatever. Any billionaire

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Speaker 4: It's a illusion and it's also delusional because the election

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Speaker 4: That is laughable. Silicon Valley hedge fund bros. People that

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Speaker 4: of all, Biden didn't even care what was in this speech.

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Speaker 4: I think that he's just gonna read whatever's put in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and building on what he said there, Remember Kamala

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Speaker 1: One and a half billion dollars buck that she raised

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Speaker 1: basically in one hundred days. She wildly outspent and wildly

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Speaker 3: The existential threat of climate change has never been clear.

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Speaker 3: That's why I sign the most significant climate and clean

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Speaker 3: The powerful forces want to wield their unchecked influence to

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Speaker 2: There's no time to waste. Just cut him off, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's enough, Clay.

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Speaker 4: He cares about the existential threat of climate change with

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden doesn't give a crap about climate change. Have

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Speaker 2: you actually read?

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Speaker 1: And I'm embarrassed by how much time I spend on

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Speaker 4: It's all across like you know, northern England again, it

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Speaker 1: I mean more people today, which no one will talk about.

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Speaker 1: him saying this is radical. I'm surprised it's not getting

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Speaker 1: because it's so crazy Buck that he also, I think,

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Speaker 2: It should be remembered that based on everything that.

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Speaker 5: You ain't imagining it. The world has gone insane. Reclaim

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Speaker 1: there should be super positive Trump stories that it turns

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Speaker 1: out weren't true. Instead, every Trump story that's super negative

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Speaker 1: is the one that turns out not to be true.

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Speaker 1: And if I'm looking at that, and I'm Jeff Bezos,

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Speaker 1: and I spent two hundred and fifty million dollars to

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Speaker 1: pinprick of the net worth of Jeff Bezos. It's like

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Speaker 1: It's just part of his play money that he has decided.

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Speaker 1: That's the sign that your culture is rotten from the

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Speaker 1: inside and that you aren't actually doing stories that are

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Speaker 1: fair in appeal to everyone. And I've talked about this

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Speaker 1: in the evolution of the Washington Post. I went to

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Speaker 1: but it wasn't for on left wing propaganda, which is

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Speaker 4: Didn't they have' George Will Maybe he's still yes, he's

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Speaker 1: Choice for making conservative argument, really talented people. What happened

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Speaker 1: to the Washing Post had turned into a place where

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Speaker 1: But that's just what the New York poses now to

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Speaker 2: Guys like all of the Trump is going to destroy

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Speaker 1: And like they're really just Democrats who are getting money

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Speaker 2: Do you know.

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Speaker 4: People are seeing the bill is coming due, people are

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Speaker 4: I just saw this before, and I didn't know I

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Speaker 4: didn't know it until a moment ago. But the incoming

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Speaker 4: National Security Advisor for Trump, Mike Waltz, Congress and Walla's

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Speaker 4: former special forces.

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Speaker 2: Guy a good dude.

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Speaker 4: He said on Fox earlier day this is cut twenty,

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Speaker 4: that they're not gonna let TikTok go dark.

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Speaker 2: Actually, so here's what he had to say.

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Speaker 6: We will put measures in place to keep TikTok from

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Speaker 6: going dark. In the led islation allows for an extension

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Speaker 6: as long as a viable deal is on the table,

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Speaker 6: and you know, essentially that US President Trump time to

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Speaker 6: keep TikTok going. It's been a great platform for him

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Speaker 6: and his campaign to get his America First message out.

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Speaker 6: But at the same time, he wants to protect their data.

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Speaker 6: You know, Conservatives don't want the FBI, and they certainly

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Speaker 6: don't want the Chinese communists getting their passwords, getting their

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Speaker 6: data and being able to overly influence the American people.

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Speaker 4: Now, it's interesting that there's this there's this change that's

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Speaker 4: occurred with X and now Facebook and now maybe TikTok.

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Speaker 2: Where the Internet overall.

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Speaker 4: The Internet as it is used by people, right, I mean,

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Speaker 4: obviously there's endless websites, but a huge when you look

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Speaker 4: at the traffic numbers of what people actually do online.

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Speaker 4: First of all, I mean YouTube takes up a huge

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Speaker 4: portion of online traffic. You know, certainly the US and

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Speaker 4: more broadly globally. But you know TikTok. Well, here here's

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Speaker 4: CNN's data guy, Harry Engine talking about American teenagers usage

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Speaker 4: of TikTok.

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Speaker 2: This is twenty one.

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Speaker 7: I don't know if you have any teenage members or

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Speaker 7: your family, but if you ever look at their phone,

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Speaker 7: they seem to be addicted to and they're scrolling through

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Speaker 7: what are they scrolling through? They're scrolling through TikTok. I mean,

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Speaker 7: my good, disgracious. Two thirds of teenagers use TikTok. It

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Speaker 7: is more popular than Instagram, more popular than Snapchat, Facebook's.

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Speaker 2: For old Fuddy Dott's like myself.

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Speaker 7: Just thirty two percent of teenagers use Facebook and Twitter x,

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Speaker 7: which is my favorite platform to be all on, it's

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Speaker 7: just seventeen percent. And it's not just that they love TikTok.

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Speaker 7: Teenagers are addicted to TikTok. TikTok's got a hold of them.

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Speaker 7: Fifty percent of teenagers use TikTok several times a day.

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Speaker 7: So if TikTok went audios and egos, this would have

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Speaker 7: a major impact on the daily lives of teenagers, at

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Speaker 7: least in your life.

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Speaker 4: So claiy, I mean I think this stuff is really

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Speaker 4: important in many ways, but one of them is as

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Speaker 4: the left, as social media became the dominant method of

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Speaker 4: online communication and the left tightened its grip, it was

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Speaker 4: able to move this. This coincided with wokeness. This coincided

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Speaker 4: with the far left lurch of the Democrat Party in

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Speaker 4: this country because they controlled the information pipeline essentially, and

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Speaker 4: we're moving into an era where they won't have that

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Speaker 4: the way they have in the past, and maybe maybe

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Speaker 4: a more free Internet than we've seen since the earliest

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Speaker 4: days of the Internet could be on the horizon.

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Speaker 1: I also think this ties in with Elon Musk leading

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Speaker 1: the charge and taking the slings and arrows first, not

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Speaker 1: only in buying X, but in just being outspoken. There

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Speaker 1: was an Axios report that I was reading this morning

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Speaker 1: book that said, and it didn't name the CEO, but

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Speaker 1: one of the CEOs said, I don't have to worry

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Speaker 1: about getting canceled anymore. I can say whatever, I'm paraphrasing him,

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Speaker 1: whatever the f I want. And for a long time

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Speaker 1: people knew that this was all bs like you and

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Speaker 1: I would talk to really successful guys running companies privately

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Speaker 1: and they would say, yeah, we agree with pretty much

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Speaker 1: everything you guys say, and you'd be like, well, you know,

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Speaker 1: you're not really outspoken publicly.

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Speaker 2: We'd be like, well, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Worried ABO I might get canceled, right, And I get it.

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Speaker 1: If you're making thirty million dollars a year to run

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Speaker 1: company X. A lot of those guys just say, hey,

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Speaker 1: all are, and then it just goes out under their names.

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Speaker 1: And the reality is they've thought it was complete crap,

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Speaker 1: but they felt like that's what they needed to do.

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Speaker 1: Now you can call it cowardice. You can also call it.

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Speaker 1: What I think often happens politically is it's astounding to

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Speaker 1: me how many politicians want to get in office and

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Speaker 1: then not get noticed for doing anything. You notice that,

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Speaker 1: like most politicians actually don't want to lead the charge.

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Speaker 1: They want to stay like three or four rows back

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Speaker 1: and just keep getting reelected, not really take that much flack,

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Speaker 1: not take that much criticism, stay under the radar. That's

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Speaker 1: one of the things that's kind of astounded me as

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Speaker 1: I've moved more into the political universe is how many

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Speaker 1: cowards there are in politics, and I think it's true

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Speaker 1: certainly in big business and everywhere else. The Elon musks

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Speaker 1: of the world are rare, but when they rise up

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're seeing I don't think that

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Speaker 1: it's a coincidence that Jeff Bezos and Mark Zuckerberg are

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Speaker 1: suddenly getting way more outspoken in the wake of Elon.

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Speaker 1: They saw, Oh, Elon went through the fire, he took

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Speaker 1: all the charge and his companies are doing fine. So

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Speaker 1: there isn't an ability to cancel. And this is where

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Speaker 1: I also came back with. We were talking yesterday or

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Speaker 1: day before about the Pete hag Seth hearing. Going after

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Speaker 1: somebody for private personal failings feels very old to me.

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Speaker 1: Now it feels like it's played out. Maybe it's going

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Speaker 1: to change, but it feels to me like the cancel

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Speaker 1: culture of oh my goodness, twenty five years ago, you

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Speaker 1: did X, and now you're not allowed to have a

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Speaker 1: job doing Why. Remember when's the last time somebody got

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Speaker 1: canceled for a joke? Buck Remember when comedians they were

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Speaker 1: going back through their old jokes and they were like,

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Speaker 1: this is really problematic humor. Back in two thousand and one,

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Speaker 1: you know, like he or she said this, and they

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Speaker 1: need to apologize for this.

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Speaker 4: I think that there was a there was a left

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Speaker 4: wing mass hysteria in this country that really reached its

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Speaker 4: pinnacle during COVID. But it was enabled largely by the

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Speaker 4: dominance the left had of online media platforms which were

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Speaker 4: just aggressively promoting some things and censoring and destroying other things,

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Speaker 4: other ideas, and it was you know, people use the

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Speaker 4: it was something that the demo people say, oh Biden,

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Speaker 4: and I know people say, oh gee, you did and

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Speaker 4: everything else. Well, there are a lot of things that

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Speaker 4: were rigged about the twenty twenty election. One of the

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Speaker 4: biggest ones, and there's no debate about this, was that

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Speaker 4: the social media platforms went all in on on electing

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Speaker 4: Donald I mean, on electing Joe Biden and defeating Donald Trump.

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Speaker 4: Something else I think is interesting, and we got a

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Speaker 4: we got a VIP wrote in about this a second ago.

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to find it right now, Clay, but I

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Speaker 4: mean I remember the basics of it, and it's these individuals,

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Speaker 4: you know, you can't you can't trust them. These here

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Speaker 4: we go VIP from email from Ken. He writes, the

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Speaker 4: support Trump is getting from Bezos, Zuckerberg, Coca Cola, it's

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Speaker 4: all fake. They're all still left flaming leftists. The hysteria

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Speaker 4: isn't gone. It's just in remission. These people are in

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Speaker 4: survival mode and they're trying to avoid Trump's wrath. Let's

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Speaker 4: let's deal with this for a second, shall we. I

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Speaker 4: think this is interesting because, on the one hand, I

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Speaker 4: understand the concern that somebody who has been on the

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Speaker 4: right for five minutes being elevated to a leadership position

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Speaker 4: on the right in some respect is concerning. But I

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Speaker 4: also feel like when people start to do the right

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Speaker 4: thing and say the right thing, how long do you

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Speaker 4: ignore them before you allow them to actually change their mind?

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Speaker 8: Right?

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Speaker 4: So, I think we can be aware of all these things.

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Speaker 4: Is for Bezos and Zuckerberg and others, is closing up

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Speaker 4: the Trump good business right now? Yes, I think we're

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Speaker 4: aware of that. Has there been a longer term trend

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Speaker 4: of these guys realizing the madness that has occurred with

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Speaker 4: the left in this country, the anti business stuff, the

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Speaker 4: communist mindset that they have. I think that's also the case.

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Speaker 4: And to your point, about Elon breaking down the barriers.

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Speaker 4: I think we are in a different I think that

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Speaker 4: it's people are more free now to be rational than

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Speaker 4: they've been in a long time, and we don't want

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Speaker 4: to shut down those pathways just because they haven't been

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Speaker 4: in the game for a long time.

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Speaker 2: Most people don't stand on principle. They stand on self interest.

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Speaker 1: So that position from the email or is not in

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Speaker 1: accurate in some respects, but it is a significant cultural

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Speaker 1: shift that standing on self interest now means you support

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Speaker 1: more freedom and less censorship.

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Speaker 2: So I can either sit.

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Speaker 1: Around and say, oh, I don't trust them anymore, but

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Speaker 1: at least they're making the right choices. And this is

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Speaker 1: the consequence I think of the popular vote election and

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Speaker 1: Elon leading the charge. Let me make a historical analogy

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Speaker 1: for you, Buck the investigation into communism, which in many

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Speaker 1: ways was valid of McCarthy. In retrospect, people say it

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Speaker 1: ended when that argument, have you no decency? That is

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Speaker 1: now famous for people who study history. I don't know

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Speaker 1: that it occurred.

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Speaker 2: In that moment.

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Speaker 1: The next day on radio, I don't know that people

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Speaker 1: were like, hey, this era is over. I do think

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Speaker 1: historically there is going to be an argument that Elon

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Speaker 1: buying Twitter was the line of cultural demarcation from which

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Speaker 1: the woke era, the me too era, This America is awful.

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Speaker 1: Sixteen to nineteen project Tear Down the Washington Monument rename

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Speaker 1: Washington DC BLM is justified in burning down all of

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Speaker 1: these police stations. I do think the line of cultural demarcation,

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Speaker 1: this is my prediction years into the future. May well

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Speaker 1: look to historians there, because remember what Elon said. He's

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Speaker 1: made a lot of money. He said he wasn't buying

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Speaker 1: Twitter to try to make a ton of money. Now

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Speaker 1: he still may make money off of Twitter, but he

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Speaker 1: said he was doing it to save free speech in

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Speaker 1: the country, and that if he had to lose money

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Speaker 1: as a consequence, that he was willing to do so

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Speaker 1: because he's making money so many other places. And now

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Speaker 1: it is in the self interest of the Zuckerbergs and

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Speaker 1: the Elons, and the Zuckerbergs in the basis is to

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Speaker 1: follow in the footsteps of Elon. But that doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: I forgive Mark Zuckerberg for bowing down to the Biden

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Speaker 1: censorship request. Again, most of these guys don't stand on principle.

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Speaker 1: They move in the self interest of their corporations and

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Speaker 1: Trump winning means that their self interest is now for

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Speaker 1: more free speech. All of you who voted Trump, we

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Speaker 1: should be applauded because we've made this happen. And oh,

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Speaker 1: by the way, we may have ended the war in

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Speaker 1: the Middle East too, and we may soon end the

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Speaker 1: war in Europe. That's the consequence of Trump winning an election.

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Speaker 1: I think we should celebrate it as opposed to sit

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Speaker 1: around and whine about things we didn't like in the past.

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Speaker 1: But I also agree with you, Buck, just because somebody's

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Speaker 1: on your side right now doesn't mean they should be

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Speaker 1: lionized as some great principled warrior. It just means we

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Speaker 1: won some battles and now they recognize they're going to

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Speaker 1: get their ass kicked if they don't been the knee.

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Speaker 4: This is one of the failings of the right in general,

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Speaker 4: is that anytime, especially if somebody has a little bit

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Speaker 4: of celebrity sizzle, even just a little bit, and they

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Speaker 4: come out and say, you know what, I want to

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Speaker 4: be on your team. Now we're ready to elect them president.

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Speaker 4: You know, everyone needs to slow their role sometimes, Okay,

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Speaker 4: And also I think I do think it's worth remembering, well,

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Speaker 4: there have been some people who have been trying to

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Speaker 4: convince people to come over into the light of righteousness,

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Speaker 4: truth and sanity for a long time.

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Speaker 2: So I don't think that.

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Speaker 4: We should necessarily take what is new. The new shiny

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Speaker 4: object on the right is a phenomenon that people need

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Speaker 4: to calm down on a little bit.

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Speaker 1: And to your point, also, a lot of us bore

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Speaker 1: real consequences for saying what we did at times when

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Speaker 1: it was not popular to say what they did.

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Speaker 2: I ebuck your.

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Speaker 1: Deluge when he said, hey, we got to open the

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Speaker 1: country back up by easter, which you were one hundred

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Speaker 1: percent right about. When I said, hey, we got to

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Speaker 1: and spoke even at our school.

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Speaker 2: Board, you should see what I got.

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Speaker 8: Like.

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Speaker 1: It's easy to stand on principle when people pat you

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Speaker 1: on the back. It's hard to stand on principle when

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Speaker 1: the response is, go to hell, you want everybody's grandma dead,

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Speaker 1: You're an awful human being. A lot of us actually

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Speaker 1: went through those fires, and I do think that should matter.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, I do believe in the larger

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Speaker 1: marketplace of ideas. The reason we have the biggest radio

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Speaker 1: mechanism of the public, a lot of people recognize we're right.

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Speaker 1: The reason why we've continued to build an audience all

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Speaker 1: were right about a lot of that stuff too. So

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Speaker 1: over time, I believe the truth wins, and being honest

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Speaker 1: and standing on principle, even if sometimes people don't agree

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Speaker 1: Several different stories to hit. As we rolled through the

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Speaker 1: third hour, of the program. Here on the Thursday edition,

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Speaker 1: we talked about Biden's farewell address and encourage you to

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk a bit Buck about Kamala being upset

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Speaker 1: at Joe Biden for saying he would have won the election.

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Speaker 1: According to the Wall Street Journal that a report also

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Speaker 1: New Washington Post slogan as we talked about democracy dies

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Speaker 1: in darkness, maybe on its way out. Daniel Penny back

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Speaker 1: on the subways. I want to get bucks take as

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Speaker 1: a New Yorker on Penny just going right back to

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Speaker 1: the subways after they tried to put him in prison

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Speaker 1: for committing a negligent homicide basically is the standard that

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Speaker 1: they tried to prosecute him under. We'll talk about that.

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Speaker 1: We're getting fan mail. We've been talking about TikTok, and

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Speaker 1: by fan mail, I mean people who believe that you

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Speaker 1: and I are morons, and so let's go ahead and

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Speaker 1: hear here's Dan who has emailed this Buck. Dan says,

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Speaker 1: I'm shocked you support keeping TikTok so kids aren't devastated

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Speaker 1: with the loss and Trump's investment may suffer.

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Speaker 2: What about national security?

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Speaker 1: Don't you find it difficult to have to build stories

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Speaker 1: constantly that match what Trump wants you to say? Who

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Speaker 1: cares how much people like TikTok? National security is the

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Speaker 1: top priority? Unbelievable. If Trump against TikTok, your story would

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Speaker 1: be on the other side. So predictable. Now, let me

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Speaker 1: tee this up for you.

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Speaker 2: Buck.

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Speaker 1: You have Actually, when no one else was defending TikTok,

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Speaker 1: you and like what's the guy's name, Jamal Bowman were

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Speaker 1: like the only people in America saying I don't want

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Speaker 1: to see TikTok band.

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Speaker 4: The only people, the only people on the right that

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Speaker 4: were raising any questions about it were yours, truly, Senator

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Speaker 4: rand Paul A little bit just because of the government

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Speaker 4: overreach component of just saying we're going to kill a

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Speaker 4: company because we think there's some theoretical national security risks

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Speaker 4: to it. Yeah, I mean, the gentleman can write in

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Speaker 4: whatever he likes, and that's fine. But to say that

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Speaker 4: that I've changed my tune on that's just contrafactual. I

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Speaker 4: have been pro TikTok when nobody say pro TikTok, keeping

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Speaker 4: it alive, not shutting it down thinking that it's overblown

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Speaker 4: the national scurity risk. Nobody was agreeing with me, and

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Speaker 4: now Trump agrees with me. That's different. That's not me

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Speaker 4: agreeing with Trump.

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Speaker 1: Trump actually has changed his opinion to agree with Buck,

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Speaker 1: not us. And what I would say about myself. First

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Speaker 1: of all, there's lots of things that I disagree with

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Speaker 1: Trump on. I mean, you should disagree with any political

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Speaker 1: leader on lots of different issues. I think Trump's right

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Speaker 1: on almost everything, but there are three or four things

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Speaker 1: I would change if I were president. My perspective has

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Speaker 1: been pretty much the same. It's not as as much

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Speaker 1: as Buck's defense of TikTok. I have said, I think

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Speaker 1: TikTok should be forced to be sold to an American owner,

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Speaker 1: and that I would be troubled in the same way

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Speaker 1: by China owning a Chinese individual or company owning The

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Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal, Fox News, any American media company, to me,

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Speaker 1: should not be owned by a Chinese entity. So I

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Speaker 1: want an American or an American company to own TikTok.

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Speaker 1: So I appreciate Dan listening and believing that we are

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Speaker 1: encouraging the destruction of America with our perspectives on TikTok.

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Speaker 1: I actually think it's a super fascinating question. A lot

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Speaker 1: of you, we opened up phone lines, a lot of

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Speaker 1: you have a variety of perspectives. I was alongside a

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Speaker 1: bum kind of impressed by how many of you are

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Speaker 1: big fans of TikTok and we are we are going

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Speaker 1: to have going forward tomorrow ran paul On. We'll get

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Speaker 1: the latest on TikTok from him as it continues to

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Speaker 1: come down the pike, and you guys can call in

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Speaker 1: eight hundred and two to two eight A two and

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Speaker 1: we may well take some more of your calls on

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Speaker 1: TikTok today. Appreciate I think his name was Dan being

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Speaker 1: such a big fan and sending an email. Now Buck,

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Speaker 1: we talked about ESPN's decision not to air the Moment

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Speaker 1: of silence for the terror attacks and in New Orleans

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Speaker 1: after the Sugar Bowl and not to air the national anthem.

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Speaker 1: We played it all for you. The USA chance called

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Speaker 1: out ESPN. ESPN claimed that they had a timing issue.

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Speaker 1: They have been getting ripped to the high heavens such

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Speaker 1: that I don't know if you saw this buck they

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Speaker 1: actually aired for the first time I've ever seen the

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Speaker 1: pregame prayer on nationwide ESPN. They have not missed the

869
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Speaker 1: national anthem since, which was a default acknowledgment that they

870
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Speaker 1: had screwed up. Now on a podcast, the executive Bert Magnus,

871
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Speaker 1: who oversees ESPN, has apologized, says it was a terrible

872
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Speaker 1: mistake and a horrible error not to air the national

873
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Speaker 1: anthem and the moment of silence. I wanted to play

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Speaker 1: this because I do think it's significant of the voice

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Speaker 1: out there from all of you and how you can

876
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Speaker 1: hold people accountable and helped to make sports something that

877
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Speaker 1: unites everybody instead of being divisive.

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Speaker 2: Listen to this.

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Speaker 8: I know there's a little bit of controversy regarding you

880
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,479
Speaker 8: guys not covering the anthem in New Orleans for the game.

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Speaker 2: Can you speak about that.

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Speaker 8: There's a group of people in Bristol who just made

883
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Speaker 8: an enormous mistake. It was a human error.

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Speaker 2: It happens.

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Speaker 8: I don't want to minimize it by any stretch, but

886
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Speaker 8: as you noted, like nothing was normal about that next day,

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Speaker 8: including our programming lineup where we normally would have had

888
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Speaker 8: college game day and that crew leading into the game.

889
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Speaker 8: It wasn't that it was Sports Center, which is done

890
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Speaker 8: out of Bristol instead of it, and said it was just

891
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Speaker 8: a mistake that you know that we feel terrible about

892
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Speaker 8: and by the way we should be held to account for,

893
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Speaker 8: right like, we want to be as good as we

894
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Speaker 8: can possibly be at all times and even though it

895
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Speaker 8: was not a normal situation, you know, our traffic got

896
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Speaker 8: fouled up, our timing got fouled up, we happened to

897
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Speaker 8: you know, to be in commercial break when the anthem happened.

898
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Speaker 8: It was just not good by any measuring stick and

899
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Speaker 8: not up to our standards.

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Speaker 4: Do you buy play that it was a foul up

901
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Speaker 4: more of an oversight that they're taking responsibility for, or

902
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Speaker 4: was this a decision that was made that now they're

903
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Speaker 4: trying to soft pedal as oh it was. You know,

904
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Speaker 4: this is like when someone says I misspoke. It's like, well,

905
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Speaker 4: if you read something off a prompter and you read

906
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Speaker 4: it and you said it, you didn't, that's not misspeaking.

907
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Speaker 4: Was this a you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: I said at the time, there's only two explanations. It's

909
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Speaker 1: either a as they said, what do they say, an

910
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 1: enormous mistake and a horrible error, or it's intentional. Here's

911
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: what I would say, Buck, that can tell that's two options.

912
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Speaker 1: I think they're also somewhat connected because it goes to culture.

913
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Speaker 1: If you make horrible errors or enormous mistakes, if your

914
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 1: culture is strong, somebody should have stood up and said, hey,

915
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 1: there was a terror attack in New Orleans yesterday. We've

916
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 1: got to make sure that we have the moment of

917
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 1: silence and that we carry the national anthem because it's

918
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Speaker 1: a moment of national healing. And it's also a significant

919
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Speaker 1: story how New Orleans responds to a terror attack the

920
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 1: day after you know there's not any It takes a

921
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:54,760
Speaker 1: certain degree of bravery to be among sixty thousand people

922
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Speaker 1: who show up to watch a big event right after

923
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Speaker 1: they were having bomb's planet in Bourbon Street. So the

924
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Speaker 1: resilience of the American spirit is to me the best

925
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Speaker 1: and most important story the game itself. Look, congratulations Notre

926
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 1: Dame won it, But I think a lot of people

927
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Speaker 1: will remember the spirit of New Orleans. But ESPN fouled

928
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Speaker 1: it up. So I think it goes to culture, regardless

929
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Speaker 1: of direct intent, that it could be allowed to happen

930
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: is a failure enormously of culture.

931
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Speaker 4: Now we've been talking about the trajectory of social media platforms,

932
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 4: news media, Washington Posts and others, and the massive vibe

933
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 4: shift that is occurring toward the right, toward Trump. Is

934
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 4: this happening in sports media as well? Or is sports

935
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 4: media lagging even this wave of sanity that feels like

936
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 4: it is finally washing across the country.

937
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Speaker 1: I think we're winning, and that's why I think again.

938
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Speaker 1: I understand, we'll get emails every day, we get VIP emails.

939
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: You can't trust Zuckerberg, you can't trust Bezos. I understand

940
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 1: that argument. But what I am seeing is I don't

941
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Speaker 1: think ESPN would have come out and made this public

942
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 1: and acknowledgment. Remember they tried to initially blame timing error.

943
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:13,359
Speaker 1: Now suddenly they're saying, actually, we screwed up, and not

944
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 1: only did we screw up, we should be held to

945
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:20,439
Speaker 1: account for it. Like, hey, you, Clay Travis and Buck

946
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 1: Sexton were right to call us out for it. You

947
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 1: Clay Travis and other OutKick writers Bobby Barack is most

948
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 1: established on writing this story. For instance, at OutKick dot com,

949
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 1: We're winning the culture battles. And the fact that ESPN

950
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: is admitting this and was asked about it, I think

951
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 1: is evidence that they recognize that. And where does that

952
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 1: come from, Buck? It comes from overwhelming majorities of the

953
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 1: American public saying that's wrong, you screwed this up. You

954
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 1: should own it. And again, I think the silent majority,

955
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 1: which oftentimes had been on the sideline saying, eh, I

956
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 1: might not like this, but I don't really want to

957
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:04,840
Speaker 1: speak out because I'm worried about what a lot of

958
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 1: people are over it, and they're like, screw it. I'm

959
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 1: going to tell you exactly what I think. And I

960
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 1: think that's what Trump, whether you like him or not

961
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:15,359
Speaker 1: bull in a China Shop style, has created, is the

962
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 1: Overton window for what many people feel comfortable debating publicly

963
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 1: has expanded, and I think that's actually incredibly beneficial to

964
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 1: the American public, regardless of what you want to argue

965
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 1: in favor of well, I'm.

966
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:30,839
Speaker 2: Mean, I'll tell you.

967
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 4: I think there was a time when if you had

968
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 4: called Elizabeth Warren Pocahontas in a public forum. You know,

969
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 4: especially if you work at a place like ESPN, you

970
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 4: might have gotten in a lot of trouble. Guess what,

971
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 4: when the President of the United States does it, it

972
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 4: makes it a lot harder for someone to say, well,

973
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 4: you can't say it if the actual sitting president says it.

974
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 4: I mean, I agree with your fundamental point, which is

975
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 4: that Trump has been saying things for a long time

976
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 4: now that allow people to say more of the same,

977
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 4: and there's a force multiplier effect that comes from all

978
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:06,320
Speaker 4: of that. But I would wonder on the sports media

979
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 4: side of things, because I think that the.

980
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 2: Trans stuff in this.

981
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 4: Election was potent, meaning, yes, the Democrats playing this game

982
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 4: of men can become women, you men should be able

983
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 4: to play in women's sports. All this stuff, you have

984
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,919
Speaker 4: to use the preferred pronoun, you have to this blew

985
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 4: up in their faces and they couldn't do what they

986
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 4: normally do, which is a poor all of that stuff

987
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 4: and then be.

988
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 2: Like, why do you care? Why are you talking about it?

989
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 2: What did you guys? Text?

990
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:38,359
Speaker 1: This morning is among many things as we're prepping, there's

991
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,879
Speaker 1: a dude playing in San Francisco on the girls high

992
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 1: school basketball team who scored twenty nine points. And we

993
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 1: wrote about this at out Kick And this is not

994
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 1: a super talented boys basketball player, right. If you watch

995
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 1: this guy running up and down the court, you're not like,

996
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 1: oh man, that's Kobe Bryant out there, or even that's

997
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 1: a good high school boys basketball player. And he is

998
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 1: dominating in San Francisco girls basketball because he identifies as

999
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:14,839
Speaker 1: a girl. I think overwhelmingly people are like, this is

1000
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 1: I want to curse, but this is bonkers, this is insane.

1001
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:22,839
Speaker 1: And you know what happened though, Buck Only two Democrats

1002
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 1: voted in favor of a bill this week. Every Republican

1003
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 1: supported it. All it did was say you should if

1004
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 1: your school's receiving federal funds, there shouldn't be boys who

1005
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 1: are allowed to compete in girl sports. Only two Democrats

1006
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 1: voted against it. I think they are basically committed to

1007
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:46,800
Speaker 1: going down Titanic style with the ship on this issue,

1008
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 1: as it rapidly is becoming an eighty twenty. Unless you're

1009
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 1: just a crazy person, you're like, there's no what are

1010
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 1: you talking about? A boy decides to identify as a

1011
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 1: girl and plays on girl sports like this is. They

1012
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 1: used to make movies mocking it back at remember Juwana

1013
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,720
Speaker 1: man like they used to make movies mocking the idea

1014
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:10,399
Speaker 1: of a guy identifying as a woman and dominating. Now

1015
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 1: it's actually reality at high schools and colleges. Like I

1016
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 1: can't believe still that this is the reality of where

1017
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 1: we are.

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