1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the Best of the Herd podcast. 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,319 Speaker 1: Sports Radio in noon to three Eastern nine am to 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: noon Pacific. Find your local station for The Herd at 5 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: Fox Sportsradio dot com, or stream us live every day 6 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. 7 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 2: This is the Best of the Herd with Colin Cowver 8 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. 9 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: Oh we got a good one today. It is a Wednesday. 10 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: We are live. We are in Los Angeles. It's the 11 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: Hurt wherever you may be, however you may be listening. 12 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: Thanks for making us part of your day. So I 13 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: got off the air yesterday and one of the most 14 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 1: celebrated coaches in the NFL, certainly the most celebrated coaching 15 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: family in the NFL, John Harbaugh, after eighteen years, is 16 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: now out in Baltimore. And just to get some sense 17 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: about how long eighteen years is, eighteen years ago Philip 18 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: Rivers of the San Diego Chargers was beating Vince Young 19 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: in a playoff game. So at a long time ago, listen. 20 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: Baltimore is complicated. Lamar Jackson is probably in a singular city, 21 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: the most worshiped quarterback in the league. Maybe not Mahomes 22 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,479 Speaker 1: in Kansas City, but close. He's twenty nine, and he's 23 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: clearly this year not the same quarterback, and historically he's 24 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: gotten tight in the playoffs. Lamar in the playoffs is 25 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: three and five with an eighty four passer rating. And 26 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: this year, and those were in the years he was 27 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: in his athletic prime, this year he did not look 28 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 1: like the same. He also carries a massive cap hit 29 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: next year, seventy four million. And in the AFC, quarterbacks 30 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: like Drake May cap hit less than ten million, bow 31 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: Knicks cap hit less than five million. So a lot 32 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: of your adversaries, the young guys you'll be facing, the 33 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: Drake Mays, the bow Knicks. They can stack their rosters 34 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: and hyper athletic quarterbacks age quickly. Do you know the 35 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: last year Cam Newton was a pro bowler, he was 36 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: twenty six. Twenty six, Lamar is twenty nine, and this 37 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: year you watch what I watch, he didn't look the 38 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: same yet. These old pocket guys Aaron Rodgers forty two 39 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: years old, carrying that offense to the playoffs, Tom Brady 40 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: mid forties winning a Super Bowl, Matt Stafford's thirty seven 41 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: years old, probably gonna win the MVP. So that's the 42 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 1: downside to being a guy that makes a lot of 43 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: noise and moves the chains with athletic ability. But Lamar 44 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: is so beloved in Baltimore, He's gonna leave when he 45 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 1: wants to leave, And I bet you I conceive John 46 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: Harball apparently it was a very long meeting with Steve Bashati. 47 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,519 Speaker 1: John Harbaugh probably said, you do realize I was eight 48 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 1: and four in the playoffs with the Super Bowl pre Lamar. 49 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: I'm three and six with Lamar. Everything can't be about Lamar. 50 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: He's twenty nine. He wasn't the same quarterback. He's missed 51 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 1: a season full of games with injuries. But yet Baltimore 52 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: and Steve Bashot he says he's still a top ten quarterback. 53 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 1: I mean our merchandise, our ticket sales, we win ten 54 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: plus games almost every year. So it's a complicated story. 55 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: But RG three was on our show earlier this week. 56 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: He played in that locker room, and it's Lamar's locker room, 57 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 1: not the coach's locker room. 58 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 3: I think Baltimore Ravens fans would burn the city to 59 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 3: the ground if the Ravens traded Lamar Jackson, And I 60 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 3: mean that who hardly. If Lamar Jackson had lost the 61 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 3: locker room, this would be a real conversation. But I've 62 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 3: got great relationships in that locker room still to this day, and. 63 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: They love Lamar and they should. Two things will be true. 64 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: The Ravens and they'll build around Lamar are well run, 65 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: They draft and develop, and they're gonna win ten plus 66 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: games going forward. Who knows. Wouldn't it be funny if 67 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: they landed Kevin Stefanski, Cleveland fires him, Baltimore hires him, 68 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: and he owns the Browns for the next eight years. 69 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: Baltimore is gonna win a bunch of games, arguably the 70 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: best run organization in football. They'll be fine. And John Harbaugh, well, 71 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: Jim got run out of San Francisco, Andy Reid got 72 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: run out of Philadelphia, and John Harbaugh eighteen years. CEOs 73 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: don't last eighteen years at a company, right like, so 74 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 1: he'll go somewhere and do just fine. Atlanta would be interesting, 75 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: maybe cam Mooard, Tennessee. What about the New York Giants? 76 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 1: Jackson dart so. But John Harbaugh is really really good 77 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 1: and Lamar Jackson is still really really good. And I 78 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: think It came down to several meetings, reportedly long, long meetings, 79 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: and I think at some point John Harbaugh probably said, 80 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: you know, I was eight and four pre Lamar, I'm 81 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: three and six with him. We got to start having discussions. 82 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: He's missing games, he's not the same guy. And Lamar 83 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: is still great. But that city and that locker room 84 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 1: and that organization, it's all about Lamar. And at some 85 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: point John Harbaugh may have said, how many years are 86 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: we going to go on this? I mean, you've seen 87 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: him in the playoffs. I'm projecting here, I'm guessing, but 88 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: I can understand if there was pushback, where the pushback 89 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: would come from. And I think that's one of those situations. 90 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: I always say this, like your athletes, don't fall in 91 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: love with them, don't worship them, love your kids, love 92 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: your wife or husband, don't love your athlete, fall in 93 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: like with them. But in Baltimore, I think Lamar's got 94 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: so much juice and so much power. He's still a 95 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: terrific player, a terrific player. The Kickers why they're not 96 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: in the playoffs, it's not Lamar Jackson. But these were 97 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 1: long meetings. Probably didn't start with the idea that Harball 98 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 1: wouldn't work. But I think Harball probably pushed back on 99 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: some things and said, you know, I want a lot 100 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: of games pre Lamar, and you know, Ravens listen to 101 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 1: their players. It's bars locker room. LaVar is gonna win 102 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 1: a bunch of games. Ravens are still gonna be really, 103 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 1: really good, and Harbaugh is gonna be just fine. So 104 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 1: I do want to talk about the Packers and the Bears. 105 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: So all this game is about. I can't wait for this. 106 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: It's all about the Bears. It's all about Ben Johnson, 107 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 1: it's all about Caleb Williams. It's all about Chicago finally 108 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 1: finding the quarterback there at home. I mean literally, when 109 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 1: the Packers are in a playoff game, usually they're the 110 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: one that's talked about. They're like, I mean, they're like 111 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: the opening act, like like the they're the appetizer. The 112 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: entree is the Chicago Bears, and we know Green Bay's 113 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 1: well run. But Nick Wright was on the show yesterday 114 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 1: and made an interesting point about the Packers head coach 115 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur. For a guy who is. 116 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 4: Just universally respected, is this really good coach? It is 117 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 4: interesting to me that his final year with Rogers, they 118 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 4: were playing in Week eighteen that if they won, they 119 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 4: would be the seventh seed. Then his first year with Love, 120 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 4: they were the seventh seed. And then last year, his 121 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 4: second year with Love, they were the seventh seed. And 122 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 4: this year the Packers find themselves as the seventh seed. 123 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 4: Nobody has benefitted more from NFL playoff expansion than the 124 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 4: Matt Lafore green Bay Packers. 125 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: So four years in a row, actually they make the playoffs. 126 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: If the playoff expansion didn't happen, they would not make 127 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: the playoffs. And I think I've always looked at green 128 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: Bay differently. They have challenges like the Milwaukee Brewers doing 129 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: baseball now competing against the Dodgers, or Wisconsin football has 130 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: competing against Ohio State and Michigan. They don't get the 131 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: same players. I think green Bay's got challenges. By the way, 132 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: third straight year, green Bay was the youngest team in 133 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: the league. Why it's not a place free agents clamor for. 134 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: They often have to make a big trade. In over Hey, 135 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: they overpaid for an offensive lineman this year. It's the 136 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: smallest city. They don't have an owner. Aaron Rodgers is 137 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: still trying to sell his house in green Bay. Matt 138 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: Stafford could sell his place on the strand in fifteen minutes. 139 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: So green Bay is one of those cities that I've 140 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: always looked at them. I always said, if Wisconsin gets 141 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: to a Rose Bowl, that's Ohio State winning the national championship. 142 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: If Milwaukee gets to you know, if they beat the 143 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: Dodgers in the postseason, that is like a World Series. 144 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: They're not going to beat another team and another team. 145 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: And I look at green Bay. I think they've been 146 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: remarkably successful, considering they have to largely. I read something 147 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: this morning that they had signed for the was it 148 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: the third fewest year? Yeah, three straight seasons, the fewest 149 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 1: free agent signings. Green Bay Packers thirst right year, youngest team. 150 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: I mean, when they made the Mica deal, what was 151 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: our reaction to that? Wait, what Packers don't do that. 152 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: That's what Philadelphia does, That's what the Rams do. You 153 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: know what you look around, you could see that a 154 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: host of teams doing the Micah Parsons deal. We were 155 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: all shocked that green Bay did it. So I just 156 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: think differently about green Bay Farvin Rogers and Jordan Love. 157 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: It's been like thirty five some years. It feels like 158 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: of having elite quarterbacks, and they got two trophies. And 159 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: I think like if the Brewers won a World Series, 160 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: if I told you they're gonna win a World Series, 161 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: you would be kind of surprised. And the reason you 162 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 1: would be surprised is, well, they just don't have the money. 163 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: I mean, the Cubs come out and it's like the 164 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: Brewers had these, you know, a great manager and then 165 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the he's in Chicago, right down 166 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: the road. It's kind of what they deal with. So 167 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: I think Lafleur is a really good coach, but I 168 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: do think there are challenges for Green Bay. That's why 169 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: I think in North American sports history there's an argument 170 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,719 Speaker 1: Green Bay has been the best run NFL franchise the 171 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: last thirty five years. I didn't say most production in 172 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: terms of trophies, best run, and they've done it without 173 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 1: an owner. It's not attractive to most free agents. Aaron 174 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 1: Rodgers still is trying to sell his house. Their game 175 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: day revenue is good, but is it Philadelphia? Is it 176 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: the Rams at Sofi? Is it the New York Giants, 177 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers, even the Bears. So I think 178 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: Lafleur's great but I kind of bake in the fact 179 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: there's some obstacles. It's not as easy as everybody thinks. 180 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,839 Speaker 1: I mean, just think of Green Bay. Go back to 181 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: the dry years in Green Bay. If you throw Bart 182 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: starr In and then Farv and then Aaron Rodgers and 183 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: then Jordan Love go into that space when they didn't 184 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: hit on quarterbacks. I mean, I remember those years they 185 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:02,719 Speaker 1: weren't getting on television, right, So I think Lafleur is 186 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: really really good. But I always kind of bake in 187 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 1: some disadvantages for the Packers. And there you go, third 188 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: straight here few West free agent signings. Staff said this morning, 189 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: j Mack, we have some things happening in this in 190 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: this world of college football. So we have Todd mcshan 191 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: one hour. His mock draft is fascinating. Jay Mack will 192 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: tell you about this around the corner. So ty Simpson 193 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 1: has said I'm going to go to the NFL. And 194 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: what's gonna be fascinating is we talked about this yesterday, 195 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:40,839 Speaker 1: So Mendoz is going on. If Dante More doesn't come out, 196 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: then ty Simpson is viewed as the second best quarterback. 197 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: And you and I were arguing about this before the show. 198 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,559 Speaker 1: I said, well, like seven teams need a quarterback. If 199 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,439 Speaker 1: there's one position you could reach on, it's probably quarterback. 200 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna end up going in the first round, 201 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,079 Speaker 1: and I think he's a second or third round talent 202 00:11:58,040 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 1: that might be generous. We'll see. 203 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 5: I would hate the Jets to take of it too. 204 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 5: There's no if you go top ten, you're a franchise savior. 205 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 5: There's a ton of pressure. 206 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: I'll give you an exam. 207 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 6: I've seen this. 208 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: You're not going to look. I'll give you an example. 209 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,719 Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals. Burl's had three major surgeries. 210 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 6: Simpson, first round. 211 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: Well, my take is Burrow's hurt again. You're gonna go 212 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:19,319 Speaker 1: back to the backup. 213 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 5: Well, but with a healthy Burrow, they're very, very good 214 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 5: in the playoff team. 215 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 1: H So you had they couldn't beat Cleveland at the 216 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:30,319 Speaker 1: end of the season. Let's not let's say Week eighteen shenanigans. 217 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 5: I mean, I'm just saying, if they could draft the 218 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 5: defensive player, offensive lineman, there's a lot of stuff they 219 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 5: could do. 220 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 1: Ty Simpson doesn't help you. 221 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 5: That basically says to Joe Burrow, like that's what the 222 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 5: stuff that the Packers were doing to Aaron Rodgers. 223 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's worked out. Okay, Packer's got another quarterback. 224 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 6: I just heard you guys hammer and la floor. 225 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,559 Speaker 1: Listen. Nick Wright was hammering. Yeah, I said, within context, 226 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: I think Lafleur's excellent. But Lafloora has to deal with 227 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: obstacles that McVeigh doesn't, Shanahan does. There even Ben Johnson doesn't. 228 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni doesn't. So I mean my ty Simpson, somebody 229 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: is going to overdraft him. 230 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 6: Should make it interesting. 231 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 5: I say, no way he goes top ten. No way, 232 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 5: no shot. I don't care what he does at the combine, 233 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 5: you know, crushes interviews. 234 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 6: No way. 235 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 1: He's going top ten. I'm now Todd mcshay'son. Do I 236 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 1: think he's a top ten? Remember when the Steelers, the 237 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: Steelers went and got Kenny Pickett. Yeah, did that work 238 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 1: out for that? No? No. I talked to a Super Bowl 239 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: winning GM and before the draft, and he said, Kenny 240 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: Pickett's a mid third round pick. Pittsburgh needed a quarterback. 241 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: By the way, you don't think Pittsburgh now drafting in 242 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: low first round forty two year old Aaron Rodgers that 243 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 1: that makes some SENSEMS if they have the last pick 244 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: in the first round. Because they have the early pick, 245 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: they'll go get a tackle. Rams have the last pick 246 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: in the first round. They also have a second, a third, 247 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 1: two fifths, a sixth, two sevens. You don't think the 248 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:01,959 Speaker 1: Rams would go. Listen, we got our tackle and they 249 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: have the Falcons pick as well. So I'm okay with 250 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: the Rams. I could I could see Pittsburgh, I could 251 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: see the Rams. I could see Cincinnati, no Ravens Bone, 252 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: It's Lamar's town. I could also Ty Simpson is the 253 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: opposite of Lamar. He's strictly Poppar. 254 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 6: Was the opposite of flat go. 255 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 5: By the way Lamar went like the end of the 256 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 5: first round, that's what we're talking about. 257 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: Was a unique transformational athlete. He did things that we'd 258 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: never seen. Ty Simpson's a pocket quarterback. So I'm looking 259 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: at all these teams. Okay, Mendoza goes to the Raiders. 260 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: If ty Simpson is the second highest graded quarterback. My 261 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: guess is what a lot of these teams would do 262 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: is trade down to the twelve, thirteen, fourteen, get another pick, 263 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: and then reach for him. 264 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 5: So Cardinals could draft a quarterback, but probably unlikely. 265 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: Right, we'll see what the nounda new coach is, Okay, 266 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: you're Arizona at three, and you can trade down to 267 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: eight and get a second round pick. 268 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 5: I would rather take an offensive lineman or a defensive 269 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 5: line and then get Malik Willis. 270 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: Okay, then you're eight in Arizona. Will you trade down again? 271 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: Do eleven? You could probably still get Ty Simpson. Potentially, 272 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: That's what I would do if I was all these Jets, Cardinals, Titans, 273 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: Brown's Commanders. I commanders have a quarterback. Titans have Cam 274 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: Morden James think they have one too, so they won't 275 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: take a quarterback. They've got their guy, Tyler Schucket. Well, 276 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: we'll see franchise, franchise all I mean, listen, he I 277 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: will say the last six weeks. Six weeks, Hey, lock 278 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: it up six weeks. That's your franchise, quarterback. 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There's two exceptions, Rock Purty 297 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: and Jalen Hurtz, and they will meet this weekend in 298 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: the Bizarro Bowl. Both have been massively elevated. This is 299 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: how they've made the playoffs, not because they're elite talents. 300 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: They've been elevated by other forces. Take Brock perty he Lands, 301 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan, who made Matt shab a pro bowler, Matt 302 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: Ryan the MVP, and got Jimmy Garoppolo to the Super Bowl. 303 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: Mac Jones' career was over. He started this year for 304 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: San Francisco. He had a ninety seven passer rating, completed 305 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: seventy percent of his throws five and three. He's not 306 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: doing that anywhere else in the league, including with McVeigh. 307 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan is the quarterback whisper brock Perty had thirty 308 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: three picks in college. That's why he dipped. He was 309 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 1: totally reckless, and yet today he has the highest passer 310 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: rating in NFL history, higher than Tom Brady. It's Shanahan. 311 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: Doesn't mean he doesn't have talent, but it's not just 312 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: the quarterback in this league. You can if you get 313 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 1: a Kyle Shanahan who has the best play sheet in 314 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 1: the league, be elevated significantly. Take Jalen Hurts, he got 315 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: benched in college. Greg Cosel, who looks at film on 316 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 1: the Show with Tom Brady Tomorrow, acknowledges he can't see 317 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: over the middle of the field all the time. He's 318 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 1: five tennis. The Eagles actually win more the fewer times 319 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurtz throws. But he's got the best GM in 320 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 1: the league. So brock Perty's got the best choreographed offense 321 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: in the league. To elevate him. Doesn't mean he doesn't 322 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: have talent, and Hurtz has the best trade manipulator and 323 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 1: draft picker arguably in the NFL. But let's not kid 324 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 1: ourselves twelve of the fourteen teams in the league have 325 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: a first round quarterback, So there are some rare examples, 326 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: and Purty and Jalen Hurts and the Bizarro Bowl on 327 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: Fox are examples that if you're good, not special, historically 328 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 1: you get a Shanahan, you get a Howie Roseman. Yeah, 329 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: you can win a lot of games. I can't wait 330 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:50,360 Speaker 1: for it. I think it's going to be spectacular. There's 331 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:54,360 Speaker 1: an AFC executive said this week to Mike Sando, think 332 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 1: San Francisco is gonna win because they have less dysfunction. 333 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 1: They do have more injuries, less dysfunction. And here's Nick 334 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 1: Seriani on the matchup. 335 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 7: The amount of big games we play on a yearly 336 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 7: basis in our regular seasons, you know, are huge. Jalen 337 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 7: does a great job of, you know, continuing to raise 338 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 7: his level of play, and so, yeah, he has a 339 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 7: ton of experience. And the quarterback we're playing has a 340 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 7: lot of experience too. In the playoffs. A lot of 341 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 7: respect to them. 342 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 1: I think this is a really hard game to figure out. 343 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: My rule is, though, is if you're favored by four 344 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 1: to five, just take the favored team. Vegas would rather 345 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: put you three or seven so probably Philadelphia is probably 346 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: the bet. But San Francisco can be very good, very 347 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: good early. That's really important. Buffalo falls behind a lot. 348 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: I don't like going on the road to Jacksonville trailing, 349 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: getting the crowd ramped up. San Francisco is the opposite. 350 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: If you would you be shocked if San Francisco came 351 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: out and took a ten dozhering lead eight minutes into 352 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: the game, I would not. So it's a fascinating game 353 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 1: where if anybody can go to Philadelphia and win as 354 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: a four to five point underdog, San Francisco is that team. 355 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 1: Looks like Trent Williams, George Kittle, Ricky pearsall, Christian McCaffrey, 356 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: Jennings are all gonna play. Fascinating matchup. All right, here 357 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 1: we go. We are very very excited. Todd mcshae in 358 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 1: a couple of minutes, Drew, excuse me. Tom Brady stopped 359 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: by tomorrow on the show and every week following that 360 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 1: up for the super Bowl. It is great to have 361 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: you in. We are live, We're in LA. It's the Herd. 362 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: So the big news yesterday I got off the air 363 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: and John Harbaugh eighteen years he and Steve Bushatti, very 364 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 1: good owner who's very much non meddling, but hands on. 365 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: He need Bishadi behind the scenes is pulling a lot 366 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: of levers, very very connected. He just stays out of 367 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: the press. But you know it's kind of surprising. Might 368 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: take his Baltimore will be fine. Kevin Stefanski probably my choice. 369 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 1: They don't need a culture creator. They don't need Jim Harball. 370 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: They don't need Mike Vrabel. They don't need that guy. 371 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,719 Speaker 1: They need somebody to make Lamar happy and get the 372 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: offense right because they've got a stable of great athletes. 373 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: They've got very I mean, they have always drafted and 374 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: developed well. They don't need a culture creator in Baltimore. 375 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: They need an offensive coach. My take is John Harball, 376 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,199 Speaker 1: like Jim, needs to go somewhere where the culture is broken. 377 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: You know, Jim Harball went to the Chargers fix the culture. 378 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: John Harball with the Giants could fix the culture. Or Atlanta, 379 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: where again, I think Atlanta's got good players. So here 380 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: are the seven current job openings in the NFL, and 381 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:46,959 Speaker 1: I you know, I would put him in three tiers. 382 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 1: Brown's Cardinals, Arizona, Atlanta Falcons, New York Giants, Raiders, Baltimore Titans. 383 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: So Tier one I would call almost perfect. That's Baltimore. 384 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: These jobs, like a packer job, almost never become available. 385 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: Excellent ownership, well capitalized star quarterback I mean, led the 386 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: NFL and Pro Bowl selections in back to back seasons. 387 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 1: Excellent leadership in the building. Tier one best job easily. 388 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 1: Tier two is promising. The New York Giants have a 389 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: lot of good young players on offense. Andrew Thomas Skataboo, 390 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 1: Jackson Dart is absolutely talented. Abdul Carter they got some 391 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: pieces here. I'll argue this all day long. I think 392 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 1: John Harbaugh here would be interesting. I also think Vegas 393 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: they have the number one pick. Their defense is probably 394 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 1: a little better than people think. I think Vegas is interesting. 395 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 1: Brock Bauers, Aston, Jenny, Fernando Mendoza. It's an offensive league. 396 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: You got some nice pieces, and they also have ninety 397 00:22:55,359 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 1: million dollars in cap space next year, third most. And 398 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: then the Falcons Arthur Blank, solid ownership, weak division, really 399 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 1: good offensive pieces in Atlanta. Bjon Robbinson's probably first or 400 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: second best running back in the league. Drake London's a star, 401 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 1: better than average offensive line. We'll see what if you 402 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: can resurrect Michael Pennix and then Tier three from nearly 403 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 1: perfect promising to punt Titans, Cardinals, Browns. I wouldn't take 404 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: those jobs. I think Tennessee is the Jets in better weather. 405 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: Everybody they move off of Vrabel, Kevin Byard Derrick, Henry 406 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 1: AJ Brown, Malik Willis, they all succeed elsewhere. That's the Jets. 407 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: Arizona has some cap space, but you gotta play McVeigh 408 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: twice a year, Mike McDonald twice a year, Shanahan twice 409 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: a year. Yeah, good luck with that, and you don't 410 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 1: have a quarterback. And then Cleveland they are what they are, 411 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: I mean they're I mean you gotta I did think 412 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: Andrew Berry had a very good draft class. I really 413 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: like their young players, but you're gonna have to kind 414 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,199 Speaker 1: of do the Shadeur Sanders thing. If it was a 415 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: great quarterback draft class. I think Cleveland would be interesting 416 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: because I like some of their young players a lot. 417 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: But I think, you know, Chadure's popular with the fans, 418 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: but Cleveland fans, you know, you can't listen to fans 419 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 1: in Cleveland. It's low self esteem sports franchise. They're desperate 420 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: for a quarterback. So I think again, Ravens almost perfect, Giants, Raiders, Falcons. 421 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: There's stuff there that's promising. If I'm a Stefanski or 422 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: John Harbaugh. Titans, Arizona Cleveland does not interest me? Are 423 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: they Jets so bad? They don't even make the list. 424 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: They don't have a coaching opening. They come on, they're 425 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 1: moving off Glenn and hartbeat or not? It's that bleak 426 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: should they I'm warming up to it? Can we get Harball? 427 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 1: I just turned the oven on a little. I moved 428 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 1: past the warming up stage. If I was you. Todd 429 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: McShay love having them on the Todd McShay podcast on 430 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 1: the Ringer NFL Draft college guy, known him for years. 431 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 1: He's outstanding. So we talked about Ty Simpsons. So you 432 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: do this for a living? I don't. I'm just a 433 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 1: radio guy, TV guy out there. But my theory on 434 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: quarterbacks is that if you're gonna be a first round quarterback, 435 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: you got to have a trait that I go wow. 436 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: A Mendoza six' five, inaccurate, Wow Dante moore THAT i 437 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: look at him AND i go. Wow if he my 438 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: thing With Ty simpson, size arm, MOBILITY i think he 439 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,919 Speaker 1: could be a franchise. Quarterback what AM i supposed to? 440 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: Love now that he's, declared let me ask, you do 441 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: you think he's A i'm not saying people couldn't overdraft. 442 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 1: Him do you see him as a first round? TALENT 443 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:42,679 Speaker 1: i think he. 444 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 6: Is i'm with. YOU i don't see. 445 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 9: That he's not the, biggest he's not the, fastest he 446 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 9: doesn't have the strongest. 447 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,479 Speaker 6: Arm he's Not Josh allen Or Patrick. 448 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 9: Mahomes when things were right At alabama early in the, 449 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 9: season the first six to seven, games whatever it, was 450 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 9: he was by far the best quarterback in the. Country 451 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 9: and he was doing it with, process with, tempo being on. 452 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 9: Schedule he beats you with his eyes and. Anticipation he's 453 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 9: got a stronger arm than people want to give him credit. 454 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 9: For he's got more mobility than people want to give 455 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 9: him credit. For the problem, is and we saw this 456 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,439 Speaker 9: With garrett Nuss meyer the past year and a, half 457 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 9: and we've seen it with other. Quarterbacks they couldn't run the, 458 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 9: football their protections were figured out by. Opponents we started Like, 459 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 9: oklahoma certain defenses started to figure. 460 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 6: Out, okay these are the. 461 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 9: Tendencies now that we've seen him START x amount of. 462 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 9: Games this is how they like to, protect this is 463 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 9: what he defaults. To here's how we beat. It and 464 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 9: so when you don't have a run, game you don't 465 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 9: have that. Balance opponents know that you're throwing the ball 466 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 9: because you can't trust the run. Game it wears on. 467 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 9: You AND i saw a Ty simpson early in the 468 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 9: year that was just going out and. Playing he was 469 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 9: playing instinctively, fast beating teams with his ability to process pre. 470 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 9: Staff they were running so MUCH nfl stuff it was 471 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 9: fascinating to. Watch then you Watch mendoza with the, RPOs 472 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 9: and you Watch Dante moore in that system with Will, 473 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 9: stein and then you turn on THIS nfl offensive system 474 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 9: that's going on In, alabama and it's easy to see the. 475 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 6: Translation the problem is he started to try to be too. 476 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 9: Perfect AND i was talking to a head coach in 477 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 9: THE nfl for fifty five minutes this. 478 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,959 Speaker 6: Morning we're going through all three of these top, quarterbacks 479 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 6: and we kind of both. 480 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 9: Agreed you got the sense that he knew it was 481 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 9: all on, him and that pressure started him ount and 482 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 9: he knew that any mistake or any inability to win 483 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 9: with the passing game and what he was doing in the. 484 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 9: Pocket the whole thing was going to collapse At, alabama 485 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 9: and we kind of saw that in every game but 486 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 9: that Second oklahoma game down the. 487 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,199 Speaker 6: Stretch SO i like him a. 488 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 9: Lot i'd love to see him with like late in 489 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,719 Speaker 9: the first, Round sean, McVay someone who has a little, bit, 490 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 9: yes but ALSO i don't like drafting outliers. 491 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 6: Man AND i know you study this, too you go 492 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 6: through the LIKE i. 493 00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 9: HAVE i keep this list on my desk, with you, 494 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 9: know all the guys forty plus, starts Bow, Knicks, Jaden Daniel, Baker, 495 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 9: Mayfield Brock, Purty Justin, Herbert Jalen, Hurts Jackson dart and 496 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 9: then all the guys who were thirty Plus and it's 497 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 9: everybody else in the league except For Patrick, Mahomes Bryce 498 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,919 Speaker 9: young twenty seven And Josh allen twenty. 499 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 6: Five and WHILE i Love Ty. 500 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:23,199 Speaker 9: SIMPSON i really like his skill, set he Ain't Patrick 501 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 9: mahomes and he Ain't Josh allen talent, wise he. 502 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: Just hasn't kid. 503 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 6: Enough fifteen starts is. 504 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 9: Hard it's gonna be hard to overcome Because i've got 505 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 9: More trubisky's And Anthony richardson's and you, know. 506 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 1: Yeah you, know we WERE i was thinking about this 507 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: is that we know this about, children that outcomes can 508 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: be different based on the. Parent you could take the same, 509 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 1: kid chaotic, life they go one, way good, parents they go. 510 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: ANOTHER i think that's true in THE. NFL i think 511 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: Josh allen Mahomes herbert would have succeeded. Anywhere agree there 512 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: are certain guys and then you Have Brock perty And 513 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts, Well Jalen hurst with that online And saquan 514 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: and Aj brown And Brock purty With Kyle. SHANAHAN i Think, 515 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: simpson to your, point his outcome depends on the landing. 516 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: SPOT i said this today if we Talked, RAMS i, 517 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 1: said if he sat for a year Behind stafford with, 518 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: McVeigh i'm, like, oh that'll. WORK i don't know if 519 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: he's going to be, great BUT i can see that. 520 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: Working if The jets reached m at, Two i'm, like 521 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: it's a, disaster it's An so is that fair to 522 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: say we look at he's come, quarterback. 523 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 9: Look at look At Sam, darnold look At Baker. Mayfield 524 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 9: they they got ruined by organizations right before they got 525 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 9: with coaches that knew how to prop them back, up 526 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 9: play to their, strengths regain their, confidence and you see 527 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 9: it with you, know go To, minnesota get, fixed go 528 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 9: to go to, McVeigh get, Fixed go To, shanahan get. 529 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 6: Fixed you. 530 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 9: Know and so, yes there's a there's a small like 531 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 9: you can count on one hand of guys in THE 532 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 9: nfl that they were just going to succeed anywhere they. 533 00:29:58,280 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 6: Went by the. 534 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 9: Way didn't That Josh allen got time With Brian, dable 535 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 9: WHO i hold in a very high regard developing. Quarterbacks 536 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 9: didn't hurt That mahomes had a year Behind, smith and 537 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 9: also With Andy reid to kind of. LEARN i MEAN 538 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 9: i remember sitting and talking to him as a, rookie 539 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 9: and LIKE i, DID i was sixty percent identifying the. 540 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 6: Mic so even those guys who. 541 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 9: Would have succeeded anywhere still landed in spots where they 542 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 9: were developed. 543 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 6: Properly so it's the it. 544 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 9: IS i would rather Be Ty simpson, though and fall 545 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 9: laid into the first round and go to a place 546 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 9: where they can develop me and they don't need me 547 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 9: immediately than to be A Dante moore and wind up 548 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 9: on The, jets or to be A Fernando mendoza and 549 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 9: wind up maybe on The, raiders depending on what that 550 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 9: staff looks, like how Involved brady, is and all those other. 551 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 6: Things so that's that's the challenging. 552 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,479 Speaker 9: Part when you sit here in kind of thirty thousand 553 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 9: foot view and, say, well who's the most talented and 554 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 9: this guy's, taller this guy's got a big. 555 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 6: Roup, yeah but where are they going to? Land what's the? 556 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: SITUATION i said this that The Baltimore, ravens it's very. 557 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: COMPLICATED a lot of times you're, like, oh you fired this, 558 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: guy he's not, competent or are you hire this? Guy 559 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: it's Obvious baltimore is. Complicated SO i could See John 560 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: harball Reportedly toddy went into the meeting and it lasted, 561 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: hours AND i could See John harbaugh at some point, Saying, 562 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: OKAY i was eight and four in the playoffs Pre. 563 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: Lamar i'm three and six with. HIM i understand everybody 564 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: loves him. Here he's a seventy four million dollar cap. 565 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 1: Hit he's missed seventeen, starts and this year he wasn't 566 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: the same. Quarterback we can Like, lamar but the whole 567 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: franch of the whole organization Worships, lamar AND i can 568 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: see over the course of a two ur three hour. 569 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: Period you, Know harball, GOING i won A Super bowl With. 570 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: FLACCO i had a winning record in this organization With. 571 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 1: Flacco you, Know i've helped with the. Draft we Got 572 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: pro bowlers. Everywhere and at the same, TIME i Think 573 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 1: harball would SAY i Like, Lamar but we said this. 574 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: Earlier the Last Pro bowl season For cam was twenty 575 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: six athletic quarterbacks age, Fast brady, Didn't stafford Doesn't aaron's 576 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: good at forty two your gut, FEELING i don't think 577 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 1: they went into a meeting thinking they were firing, him 578 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 1: AND i think just like certain two hours of our, 579 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: meetings things. Develop do you Believe harbaugh privately was as 580 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: all in On lamar as the relations appear to be 581 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: what everybody says it. 582 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 9: Publicly this one's fascinating to me because this millisecond that 583 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 9: that tweet From schefter goes, out he's the hottest coach 584 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 9: in the, market in a market with a lot of 585 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 9: vacancies and some places THAT i think are making calls 586 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 9: that have a. 587 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 6: Head coach right now from my, understanding that's WHAT i read. 588 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 1: Yesterday. 589 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 9: Yeah, Yeah but then also you look at The ravens 590 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 9: and you, say, well this is the best opening available 591 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 9: of all of all the head coaching. 592 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 1: Opportunities by far. 593 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 9: Right so sometimes it's about. Fit sometimes it's About i've 594 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 9: been here so long and maybe fresh blood is. Needed 595 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 9: But i'm still one of the best coaches in THE, 596 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 9: nfl and and both sides are it's time to move. 597 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 6: ON i don't PERSON i know. 598 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 9: THIS i can say. THIS i remember when When lamar 599 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 9: came in the league and there were a lot of, 600 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 9: questions can he be the franchise. GUY i Gave john 601 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 9: like an unbelievable amount of credit BECAUSE i have some 602 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 9: really close friends in that organization scouting staff who kind 603 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 9: of explain and walk through What john did organizationally to 604 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 9: make sure Everyone i'm talking, players, coaches, trainings that everyone 605 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 9: understood we're gonna tailor this whole thing Around. Lamar it's 606 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 9: gonna look, different it's not gonna look like how it, 607 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 9: looked and the great coaches don't try to fit someone 608 00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 9: into what they're. 609 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 6: Doing so he has Done he's done that and. 610 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 9: Did that better THAN i, mean he's in the top 611 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 9: three four examples of a coach kind of changing, everything, 612 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,359 Speaker 9: yeah to fit one special. Talent, NOW i don't know 613 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 9: if that. SHIFTED i don't know if he wants to 614 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 9: go in a different. DIRECT i have no idea about 615 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 9: that aspect of, it BUT i do know while he was, 616 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 9: there it's hard to imagine anyone was better equipped to 617 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 9: Give lamar everything he needed to. Succeed and they had 618 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 9: a lot of, success but they could never kind of 619 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 9: get over the. 620 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,800 Speaker 1: Hump, YEAH i want TO i want to pivot back to. COLLEGE. 621 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:39,959 Speaker 1: YEP i love When, TEXAS usc And miami are good 622 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 1: because they're college football, teams but they've got kind of 623 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: AN nfl. Field they're somewhere in, between you, know like 624 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 1: Like alabama's a college, Program tennessee is a college. Program 625 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 1: miami's like mostly a college. Program it feels a little pro, 626 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 1: so you, know it's got a weird fan base where 627 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 1: they don't travel as. Much AND I i look At 628 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: miami AND i honestly think the one team that matches 629 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 1: up With indiana BECAUSE i Think indiana's the best. Team 630 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,360 Speaker 1: i'll ask you the, question AND i asked it. YESTERDAY 631 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 1: i didn't Know miami had this much alumni, money in 632 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 1: this much passion to just back up the brinks truck 633 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,919 Speaker 1: in the nil. Era are you Surprised miami's here. Now 634 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 1: now you know their roster better THAN i do in 635 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 1: terms OF Nfl sunday, guys COULD i Argue miami now 636 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 1: has the BEST nfl talent left or do they? 637 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,319 Speaker 6: Not you can argue. 638 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 9: IT i, mean, yeah you can argue. It i'm doing quick. 639 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 9: THINKING i, Mean indiana's got To Obviously mendoz is gonna 640 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 9: be if he's not the first overall, pick the second overall. 641 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 9: Pick and they've got like five six other guys who 642 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,720 Speaker 9: will get drafted but not as high as As miami 643 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,959 Speaker 9: and H messador will get drafted later in the first 644 00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 9: round After bain gets. Drafted both defensive ends got. Talent 645 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,919 Speaker 9: they've GOT nfl talent on all three. Levels, Defensively they've 646 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 9: got some receivers that ARE nfl. Talent Malachai tony is 647 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,360 Speaker 9: going to be a first round draft pick in a 648 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 9: couple of. Years at wide, receivers they've Got, Mawi Francis. 649 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,240 Speaker 9: Maw we know their their their offensive, tackle right tackle 650 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 9: is going to be oh, yeah either a great right 651 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 9: tackle or A Pro bowl guard in THE. Nfl so, Uh, 652 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 9: honestly the BIG i think there's two things with MY 653 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 9: i actually Picked. 654 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 6: MIAMI i Picked georgia to win the whole. Thing so 655 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:28,319 Speaker 6: what DO i? 656 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,919 Speaker 9: Know BUT i Picked miami to to Upset Ohio state 657 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 9: and to get to the semi finals BECAUSE i think 658 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 9: they lost at an appropriate time and they had they 659 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 9: had it ripped away from. Them and when you have 660 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 9: that much talent and you get that hungry late in the, 661 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 9: season and if you go, back even look at last 662 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 9: year with the right you, Know Riley leonards and And Will, 663 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 9: howard it was about two things in The COLLEGE Footba 664 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,759 Speaker 9: playoff last year and it's not a whole lot different this. 665 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 6: Year great defense and experienced. 666 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 9: Quarterbacks right And beck had the most experience of all 667 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 9: these quarterbacks coming in with twenty eight and eighty one. 668 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:05,319 Speaker 6: Snaps he hasn't played, great but. 669 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,919 Speaker 9: He's played, smart and he's learned from mistakes and those 670 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 9: multiple interception games that led to losses both early in 671 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 9: the Season miami and At. Georgia and you know previous 672 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:18,240 Speaker 9: years they've gone away and so he's allowing the defense 673 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,399 Speaker 9: and the run game to to do its. Thing so 674 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 9: they're a dangerous. TEAM i, ACTUALLY i you, know give 675 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 9: me the give me the three and a half. Points With, 676 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 9: MIAMI i think it's going to be an absolute. War 677 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 9: AND i love the fact that this defense the way 678 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 9: it's Put. 679 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 6: Like did you watch that? Defense that was a different 680 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 6: level of. 681 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 9: Hunger, oh and every tackle that was made was like, five, 682 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 9: six seven jerseys around the. Ballcarrier it's gonna be A i, 683 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 9: MEAN i can't. WAIT i can't wait to Watch. MIAMI 684 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,359 Speaker 9: i also can't wait to watch the two top quarterbacks 685 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,400 Speaker 9: in THE Nfl draft go head to head On friday 686 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 9: night With Oregon. 687 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,960 Speaker 1: Way, well before we let you, go you Have Dante, 688 00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 1: MOORE i had A, mendoza WHICH i think they're both good. 689 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,360 Speaker 1: Prospects do you Believe Dante moore comes out? NOW i 690 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,839 Speaker 1: Think oregon With Phil knight could easily give him five 691 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 1: Large and that's kind of the market for a top. 692 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 1: Guy if you had a guest, today do you Think 693 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:10,399 Speaker 1: Dante moore comes? 694 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,839 Speaker 6: OUT i do think he's going to come. 695 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 1: Out. 696 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,320 Speaker 9: Wow AND i Know i've got a lot of slack 697 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,720 Speaker 9: from The jets, market And i'm GLAD i could finally 698 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 9: unite everyone in The New york. 699 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 1: Media. 700 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 6: Ah my simple point on all of this, is And 701 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:24,879 Speaker 6: i'm not saying. 702 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 9: DOT i asked the, question, like do you take a 703 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,400 Speaker 9: look at this and Say i'm probably going to be 704 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 9: A New York jet and, say, well what's the money. 705 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 9: Difference he's going to make about twelve million based off 706 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,360 Speaker 9: of last year per, year so it's not gonna be equal, 707 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 9: money and you lose out if you go back for 708 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 9: twenty twenty seven. 709 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 6: Class it's. Loaded Arch Manning julian Saying Lenora. 710 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 9: Sellers all those guys could be the best draft class 711 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,360 Speaker 9: ever at the quarterback position. 712 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 6: And maybe all. 713 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 9: Around but WHEN i look at this situation for more, 714 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,880 Speaker 9: again it's not totally dissimilar From Ty. Simpson this is 715 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:00,799 Speaker 9: going to be his twentieth start On friday, NIGHT i, 716 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 9: know Against, indiana AND i see the immaturity in his. 717 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 9: Game BUT i also want people to UNDERSTAND i think 718 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 9: his ceiling might be a little bit higher if he's 719 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 9: in the right situation than Even Fernando. 720 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,760 Speaker 6: Mendoza so it's. 721 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 9: Complicated and if he could Get oregon up to like 722 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,920 Speaker 9: seven million dollars for next, year which we've heard in 723 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 9: a couple, spots that could be a. Possibility, yeah you're 724 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,840 Speaker 9: leaving five on the, table you're leaving the signing bonus 725 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 9: on the. 726 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,280 Speaker 6: Table but maybe you roll the dice and come back another. 727 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 9: Year most here's the most important part of all of 728 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 9: the COLIN i want these guys to. Succeed And i'm 729 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,799 Speaker 9: looking at these experienced charts And i've been doing this 730 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,320 Speaker 9: for twenty five, years and the greatest correlation to success 731 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 9: in THE nfl for quarterbacks is experience in. College and 732 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 9: SO i worry that he gets to one of these. 733 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,799 Speaker 9: Places it's not equipped to support him. Properly he only 734 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 9: has twenty starts and he could Really, like look At, 735 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 9: mendoza the human being and the football. Player how much 736 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 9: more advanced he is today than he was Leaving cal last. 737 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,879 Speaker 9: Year and that tells you what it what another year 738 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 9: could provide For Dante. Moore but with all that, SAID 739 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:04,759 Speaker 9: i still think he's gonna leave after this. 740 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:08,360 Speaker 6: Playoff. Wow this is So, yeah it's, fascinating it really. 741 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:13,920 Speaker 1: Is. Uh there's mcshay's board at McShay. Thirteen love that 742 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 1: he Unites jet. Fans, YEAH i love. 743 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:17,160 Speaker 6: That so it's not easy to. 744 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,960 Speaker 1: Do, yeah somebody has To. Todd it's. 745 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,279 Speaker 6: Great see anybody seeing, you, Man i'll talk to. 746 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 1: You. Yeah can you imagine If mendoza gets bumped to The. 747 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 1: Jets i'm dead serious on. This If john let's Say John, 748 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:38,440 Speaker 1: Harbaugh So i'm gonna Be Kevin stefanski's. AGENT i would 749 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:44,960 Speaker 1: literally Tell Kevin stefanski If baltimore, calls take, it sit 750 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:49,360 Speaker 1: out for a year Because Aaron glenn is not lasting 751 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,759 Speaker 1: a second, year and you'll Get mendoza on the rookie. 752 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:55,440 Speaker 1: Quarterback i'm dead. Serious, well, YEAH i speculated That. 753 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 5: Monday like, listen If more lights the world on fire 754 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,200 Speaker 5: again and Beats indiana and MENDO. 755 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,399 Speaker 1: I think it becomes a number one. THING i Think 756 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 1: John Harbaugh's, Actually i'll say this could be a better 757 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,280 Speaker 1: fit In New york Than stefanski Because New york needs, 758 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 1: Culture baltimore. Doesn't baltimore needs a guy that Make lamar. 759 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 1: Happy That's. Stefanski so these coaches they all run to 760 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,719 Speaker 1: get the new. Job stefanski is super. Bright he could 761 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 1: bounce AROUND tv networks for a. Year and you know 762 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:26,279 Speaker 1: he's Not Sean, payton but He people would Put stefanski on. 763 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:29,160 Speaker 1: Television good, guy smart. Guy pen drad. 764 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,920 Speaker 5: About sitting Out. Colin it's not a lot That Aaron 765 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,280 Speaker 5: glenn's back for now he's. Back let's see What Dante 766 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,239 Speaker 5: moore decides if both quarterbacks come. OUT i think that 767 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 5: changes the. Equation The jets become more. Attractive you're getting 768 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 5: more A mendoza right, now we don't, know. 769 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 1: There's no well that's. Interest you think he could still Get? 770 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,280 Speaker 5: Wow, yeah of course it's THE. Nfl it's It's Woody 771 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,759 Speaker 5: johnson and the billionaire. Class you, know these guys are 772 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 5: goofy and do crazy. THINGS i don't think anybody's. Safe, 773 00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,640 Speaker 5: hey talk To manginie about the word OF nfl owners 774 00:41:58,640 --> 00:41:59,239 Speaker 5: and what that all. 775 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 1: Means i've got a. Dinners, yeah it's all, right good 776 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,640 Speaker 1: stuff With todd McShay. Man i'm gonna tall you. Something 777 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,400 Speaker 1: If Dante moore comes out that that first round. Draft 778 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:14,320 Speaker 1: there are some. DUDES i mean they last year was 779 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,239 Speaker 1: a week draft by the fifth pick last, Year i'm, 780 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 1: LIKE i don't, KNOW i like every single. PLAYER i, 781 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:24,960 Speaker 1: mean he's Got Ruben baine going ten to The. Bengals, 782 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 1: dude Ruben bain is a it's outside last, year he's 783 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 1: maybe two after Cam Ward ruben bin last. Year maybe 784 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,319 Speaker 1: who was the second pick last. YEAR i mean that 785 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,120 Speaker 1: it's not. Memorable Cam ward would be a number. One 786 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,239 Speaker 1: Ruben bain last YEAR i would put him a. Two, 787 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,400 Speaker 1: oh he's an. Animal, yeah she is just. Outstanding and 788 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,200 Speaker 1: he's the Second hurricane being drafted because they have the offensive, 789 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,279 Speaker 1: line two of. Them, yeah In, la it's the third