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Speaker 1: Fred Shell. Hey Abby, good morning, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 1: How are you.

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Speaker 2: I'm good, guys, how are you doing great?

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Speaker 1: Welcome to waiting by the phone.

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Speaker 3: So we're trying to figure out what happened with this

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Speaker 3: guy Patrick, and we got to have the backstory.

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Speaker 1: So how did you meet?

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Speaker 3: Tell us about any dates you've been on and uh

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Speaker 3: and how those went, and then where things are now?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 4: So first I met Patrick at a Saint Patrick's Stay

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Speaker 4: party the irony there, and we just we just talked

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Speaker 2: We both have.

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Speaker 4: Kids, and we bonded over that, like we're both single parents,

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Speaker 4: you know, just talking about like the funny stories that

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Speaker 4: like really clicked right away. It was like instant connection.

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Speaker 4: Then we like the more we talk, like he was

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Speaker 4: asking like, you know, where about I lived. We found

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Speaker 4: he asked for my number before he left, which was like,

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Speaker 4: you know, I was excited because like I thought he

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Speaker 4: there was definitely connection there. So we had been kind

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Speaker 4: of texting back and forth after he got my number,

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Speaker 4: and then a few days later.

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Speaker 2: It was a really nice day and Patrick was like, hey,

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Speaker 2: like I said, we lived pretty close. And he was like, hey,

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Speaker 4: It's like I felt comfortable because it's like a big thing,

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Speaker 4: Like even if he's like not my boyfriend, it's just

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Speaker 4: So I really appreciated him saying like if I felt

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Speaker 2: I grat So I have two daughters, and I said, sure,

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Speaker 4: Like what why not? You know, it's it's innocent. It's

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Speaker 4: not a day. You know, it's just kind of meeting

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Speaker 4: you know, we had like a real like it was

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Speaker 4: a really it was really nice to see him again.

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Speaker 4: We tried a lot, the kids had a lot of

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Speaker 4: fun playing. But after that, like I never heard from

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Speaker 4: him again, Like it was very weird, like he didn't

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Speaker 4: like I sent him a text afterwards. They said, hey, like,

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Speaker 4: you know, thanks for inviting us, we had a great time,

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Speaker 4: you know, talk to you soon or like love to

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Speaker 4: see you again, you know, let me know. And it

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Speaker 4: was just cricket. So I just don't know, like what

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Speaker 3: Yeah that's interesting because you guys, you did meet in

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Speaker 3: since things went well in your opinion, then it's like, well,

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Speaker 3: wait a minute, what's going on. Why wouldn't this guy

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was just very strange, Like I felt like

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Speaker 2: So I'm just I'm kind of stumped of what could

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Speaker 3: Okay, well let's call this guy Patrick. See if we

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Speaker 3: can get him on the phone. We'll ask these questions

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Speaker 3: the same time. At some point you're welcome to jump

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Speaker 3: date and we'll pay for this. All right, Let's find

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Speaker 3: I was going on for too of waiting by the

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Speaker 3: phone right after Lola Young back in two minutes. Stay

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Speaker 3: right here at commercial days, the Fred Show on the

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Speaker 3: for the Freend' show on demand. Hey Abby, Hello, Hi Abby,

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Speaker 3: Let's call Patrick. You guys met at the Saint Patrick's party.

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Speaker 3: You talked for a long time. You thought it went

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Speaker 3: decided collectively to get together at a park or a

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Speaker 3: some morning and you thought everything went really well, except

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Speaker 3: want to know why exactly.

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Speaker 2: So I'm just kind of racking my brain.

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Speaker 4: What's happening? So I don't know, Like at this point,

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Speaker 4: I need some help. I need some intervention.

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Speaker 3: in the background still try to figure out. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 3: I mean you got needs. G I understand. Let's call

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Speaker 3: this guy now, Good luck, Abby.

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Speaker 2: Thank you?

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Speaker 1: Hello? Hi is this Patrick? Yes? This is Ease, Hey Patrick,

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Speaker 1: good morning. My name is Fred.

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Speaker 3: I'm calling for the Fred's Show, the Morning radio show,

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Speaker 3: and I have to tell you that we are on

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Speaker 3: the radio right now, and I would need your permission

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Speaker 3: to continue with the call. Is uh is it cooefully

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's that's fine.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well, thank you for calling on behalf of a

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Speaker 3: many reached out to us. Her name is Abby. I

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Speaker 3: guess you guys met at at a party recently and

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Speaker 3: Do you remember this woman?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I remember Abby.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, So what happened because she we just talked

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Speaker 1: So what what happened?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I was I was going to take my

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Speaker 5: But her, her two kids were just next level. I

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Speaker 3: Like what what is she just watching this and laughing?

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Speaker 2: It was just a lot for me for an afternoon.

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Speaker 5: She never really told them to stop, and I didn't

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't like that much either, But let me

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Speaker 4: Like if he's turned off by me, that's fine. Like

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Speaker 4: They are not. They obviously were like a little more

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Speaker 4: it's me doing it all. So it's like really hard

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean my mom, my sister, and I were

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Speaker 3: I think, though you know your kids can act up.

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Speaker 3: But just from my perspective, if it were me and

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Speaker 3: I'm Patrick, I guess what I would have been looking

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Speaker 3: for is less about what a two year old's doing

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Speaker 3: he certainly couldn't discipline the kids. That would have been

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Speaker 4: When she did go to bite him, I took her

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Speaker 1: Is that what happened? Patrick?

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Speaker 3: She was Are you not giving her enough credit for

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Speaker 5: Well, no, no, she did step in. I mean, it's

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Speaker 4: Like he's trying to come off at like their boat

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Speaker 2: Two year old bit him, and like again.

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Speaker 4: I disciplined and we're working on it. Like she's too,

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Speaker 4: so like maybe she got scared, you know, like we're

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Speaker 4: So the fact that like it's all coming down on me,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we we are not trying to criticize you.

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Speaker 4: We are not trying to criticize you at all, but

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Speaker 1: Respect his decision to not want to be a part

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Speaker 2: That totally fine, That is totally fine. I can admit that.

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Speaker 2: The whole thing is is just like.

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Speaker 4: Be a man and say, you know what, I feel

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Speaker 3: Like that's hold on, hold on just one second. This

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Speaker 3: And I also understand we're talking about your children and

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Speaker 3: I understand why you're defensive. I totally do, But I

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Speaker 2: Well, sure, but he didn't even have to bring up

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Speaker 2: I'm just not.

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Speaker 4: Feeling the vibe like I think, you know, I'm not

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Speaker 2: Honestly, like just say something like.

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Speaker 4: Don't leave somebody on red, like just be respectful. Like

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Speaker 4: I've had to end things. They're not they're uncomfortable.

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Speaker 2: They're uncomfortable when you have to tell someone yeah, you know,

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Speaker 4: Not feeling it, or like you could. There's a respectful

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Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying, Like, I just feel like I

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Speaker 4: I feel like we really did have a connection.

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Speaker 1: But that's fine.

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Speaker 3: I think that's fair. I think that's fair. I think

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Speaker 3: on you, no one's criticizing you. It's not for him.

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Speaker 3: He has that right that is dating but Patrick, I'll

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Speaker 3: ask the question. I mean, would you like to go

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Speaker 5: You know, Honestly, had we had this conversation, I may

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Speaker 5: I see that she's working on it. I'm I'm absolutely

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Speaker 3: Not see this coming. So you have no problem being

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Speaker 5: Well, no, I don't think it's going to be that way.

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Speaker 5: I think I just have a bit more of an

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Speaker 1: Passion, all right.

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, I'm a little surprised, but Abby, I

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Speaker 3: I understand where you're coming from. Patrick, I I didn't

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Speaker 3: expect this. But great, So it'll be an adult date.

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Speaker 3: You guys will go out again. We'll pay for it,

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Speaker 2: I can.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I appreciate it, and obviously, like maybe.

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Speaker 2: We do have some stuff to talk about, so you appreciate,

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Speaker 4: Here, so I can. So hopefully, you know, if it

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Speaker 3: Yeah you did. You did kind of chew us out

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Speaker 3: a little bit. So I'm a little afraid of I'm

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Speaker 3: a little afraid.

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Speaker 1: Of that we're talking about your kids. I get it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I've had a rough go and I do stand up.

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Speaker 4: So I mean, I really wasn't trying to bite anybody's

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Speaker 4: I'm always going to defend what I believe is right.

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Speaker 4: So it wasn't anything that cans you guys, because we

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Speaker 4: all we all don't know each other.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, I think he's a little turned on over there.

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Speaker 1: So that's right.

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Speaker 3: You guys go up as adults, have a great cent

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Speaker 3: and we'll pay for it, and we'll check you later, and.

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Speaker 1: Good luck to both of you. The Entertainer Report and

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