1 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for listening to the best of Cabino and 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: Rich podcast. Be sure to catch us live every day 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: from five to seven pm Eastern two to four pacifics 4 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for Gavino 5 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: and Rich at Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream 6 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: us live every day on the iHeartRadio app my searching FSR. 7 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 2: All Right, history of the books. We are on the 8 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 2: eve of the fourth of July. That means erin Torres. 9 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 2: It is July third. Welcome in happy pre independent state 10 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 2: of you. Erin Torres. 11 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 3: Great to be here, Great to be here. 12 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, listen, it's crazy because you know, for 13 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 1: us we're on air, but for so I know how 14 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: many hundreds of thousands of people are on the road 15 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: right now, if not even more so. Yeah, we're taking 16 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 1: till seven Eastern. Try to keep you entertained, try to 17 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: have some fun along the way, and. 18 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 2: We're gonna have some fun. Iowa Sam is here hanging out. 19 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 2: Hey guys, Hello, Iowa Sam. I am right. 20 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 3: And that high of that Dodger game last night. 21 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 2: Wow, I'll tell you're not the only one. Jason Stewart 22 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 2: is as well. Hello, Everybunday And we know Monty Belanos 23 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 2: is feeling that she was there last night. 24 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 3: I'm excited. 25 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, welcome in. It is can be an order. 26 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 2: It's here on Fox Sports Radio. Big thanks to the 27 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 2: camera crew as well, Dave Chuck, Paul Smitty and Timmy 28 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 2: over there. Appreciate you guys. Have a great, great extended weekend. 29 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 2: Number three thousand. Clayton Kershaw a member of the three 30 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 2: thousand strikeout club. It was a bit of history and 31 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 2: last night after the Dodgers coming back and scoring three 32 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 2: runs in the bottom of the ninth to help me 33 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 2: in my survivor pool and help Jason Stewart and his 34 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 2: survivor pool as well. It was a magical night at 35 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 2: Dodger Stadium because it was history and it's now Aaron 36 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 2: Torres being brought into question on how often are we 37 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 2: going to see this history of three thousand strikeouts? But 38 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 2: we saw it last night with Clayton Kershaw. 39 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 3: We did. 40 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: It was a special moment I think makes it obviously 41 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: especially special and maybe this is a little bit of 42 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: our bias living here in Los Angeles doing it with 43 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: one team, you know, I mean third guy, I believe 44 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: ever to do it with one team through three thousand strikeouts, 45 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: and I think the arc of his career. You know, 46 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: obviously young, dynamic superstar into one of the best pitchers 47 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: in baseball. We know about the ups and downs in October, 48 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: and I think that even going into like last year's postseason, 49 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: I didn't realize how much he meant to this city 50 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: and that organization until of course that parade ends in 51 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,839 Speaker 1: Dodger Stadium, he's welcomed. Do you realize how long he's 52 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: been with the organization, You realize how much he's accomplished, 53 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: And then, of course maybe the greatest accomplishment individually was 54 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: last night. 55 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 2: I also like this about Clayton Kershaw getting strikeout three thousand, 56 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 2: and you're going to be hearing it throughout the show. 57 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 2: You're going to hear it in a second. But I 58 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 2: like it because Clayton Kershaw is a good guy. Sure, 59 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 2: And I know that seems like a general sort of 60 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 2: statement and one that seem a bit phony or maybe 61 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 2: possibly be false, because we don't really know who these 62 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 2: players are because he's been around so much, because of 63 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 2: what we've seen him go through, because we've seen so 64 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 2: much of his career, and you mentioned us being in 65 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 2: southern California, I feel like we do have a sense 66 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 2: of that. 67 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 3: Sure, sometimes at some point. 68 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 2: You understand, all right, maybe not the greatest dude in 69 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 2: the world, but the guy wins. And we've talked about 70 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,959 Speaker 2: that with many different athletes throughout the spectrum, but we've 71 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 2: also talked about other athletes, like we could talk about 72 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 2: Clayton Kershaw and for all intents and purposes, everything that 73 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 2: I know, everything that he's exhibited, what he's done on 74 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 2: the field, what he's done off the field, is a 75 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 2: good guy, a really really good guy, maybe in a 76 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 2: two percenters club of good guys when it comes to 77 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 2: professional athletes. That's what I also loved last night, was 78 00:03:56,120 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 2: that opportunity for Clayton Kershaw to be celebrated like that, 79 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 2: because we also honestly don't know on how many times 80 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 2: he will be celebrated again. I think last year's World 81 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 2: Series title would be different if they win it again, 82 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 2: even if he has a role in it. This year. 83 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 2: There was something different about the twenty twenty four championship. 84 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 2: Maybe it was coming off COVID, maybe it was because 85 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 2: of his injury history and whatnot, But you said, just 86 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 2: the response of Clayton Kershaw at the parade and rally 87 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,679 Speaker 2: of the response that he got from told you everything 88 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 2: you needed to know about him as a Dodger. But if, 89 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 2: even if he has a role in it, I think 90 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 2: there's going to be something different than it was last year. 91 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 2: But last night felt like because it was about him 92 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 2: and him only, it wasn't a Dodgers team thing that 93 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 2: the Dodgers fans got an opportunity to celebrate that. I 94 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 2: do want to bring in Manzi and Jason's here as well, 95 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 2: and I was Sam, but Monzi was at the ballpark 96 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 2: last night. Was it also Yamamoto Bobblehead night? Yes? 97 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 4: Well yes, so that's the real reason that I needed 98 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 4: to be there was because of how busy it was 99 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 4: going to be. But then the Clayton Kershaw landing on 100 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 4: three strikeouts away made everything extra crazy. 101 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 5: Gates opened early without them making the. 102 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 4: Announcement because of everyone was in their seats like when 103 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 4: the game started. I remember looking at the corners of 104 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 4: the reserve, like where no one sits that are always empty. 105 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 4: Every seat was pretty much filled by the start of 106 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 4: the game. 107 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 5: Because I mean, not that it was going to happen, 108 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 5: but imagine. 109 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 4: He got the first three strikeouts in the first setting, 110 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 4: and you missed it right, So. 111 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 5: Everybody was in their seats. 112 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 4: Everybody was gasping every single time he had so many 113 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 4: two strikes on players and then a home run, a 114 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 4: triple of this, Like there were moments where you're like, 115 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 4: this is it, this is it and no, but uh, 116 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 4: he got it. 117 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 2: Can I ask not that I'm interviewing you about last night, 118 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 2: but I am curious about this because he wasn't available 119 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 2: last year in the postseason, he still got the roar 120 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 2: that Aaron talked about when they were celebrating the title. 121 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 2: Did it feel like this is like almost not Clinton 122 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 2: Kershaw Appreciation Night, but this could be one of the 123 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 2: last opportunities that they can really show their love to 124 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 2: Clinton Kershaw. Did you have that sense at all? 125 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 5: I did, and you hit it perfectly. 126 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 4: It's like, I don't exactly know what is going to 127 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 4: happen with Kershaw after this season. He does not seem 128 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 4: like the type to do a farewell tour. I think 129 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 4: he's just gonna announce it and be done. And so 130 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 4: I do think there was a little bit of yes, 131 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 4: we may this would might be our only time to 132 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 4: really tell Kershaw how much we appreciate what he has 133 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 4: done for eighteen years with the Dodgers. 134 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: And if I can jump in, we're all watching MATSI 135 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: were there. It felt like the hug from Dave Roberts 136 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 1: was like a little extra longs. Yes, some of the 137 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: individual players, So I, you know, me not being the 138 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 1: baseball guy that you guys all are, I don't think 139 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: I had that full thought process. But now thinking back 140 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 1: on the night, it's like, oh, maybe that was kind 141 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 1: of the unofficial goodbye to the eventual goodbye. 142 00:06:58,360 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me. 143 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, because even if they win it next year, like 144 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 2: there there's and I think like last year there may 145 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 2: have been a bit of like an absence if he's 146 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 2: available for them. If he's available for them down the stretch, 147 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 2: it'll be great, but it'll still be about the back 148 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 2: to back and it won't necessarily be about him, where 149 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 2: last night was an opportunity for it to be all 150 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 2: about him and then he could make whatever decision that 151 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 2: he wants, which is again, he missed the start of 152 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 2: this season, right, so it takes him a while to 153 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 2: get into to action. And you'd have to think that 154 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 2: the three thousand strikeout goal is a reason on why 155 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 2: you want to come back and pitch again in addition 156 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 2: to getting a ring, in an addition to throwing in 157 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 2: the postseason and getting that. But you know, how many 158 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 2: more boxes do you need to check off the list 159 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 2: if you're Clayton Kershaw? There were very, very few. And 160 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 2: I think last night was a big one. Yeah it was, Yeah, 161 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 2: it was. I just I'm not and I'll just say this. 162 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 2: I think for all of us watching we talk about 163 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 2: the Clayton Kershaw aspect of it, and what a what 164 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 2: an opportunity it was in final time to say goodbye. 165 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 2: I feel that this narrative of this is the only 166 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 2: time we're gonna see it for a long long time 167 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 2: is a bit misguided. And you want to know why. 168 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 2: And if you don't want to know, I don't worry. 169 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 2: I'm still gonna tell you anyway why. 170 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 3: I want to know why. 171 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 2: Person, Yeah, Jason, are you interested in this? 172 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 3: I love it. 173 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 6: I'm hanging on every word. 174 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 2: This is, this is why because it's only happened twenty times, 175 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 2: and so like the thought of like we're not gonna 176 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 2: we're not gonna see it very often, we don't see 177 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 2: it often, even when there is a string of guys 178 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 2: that we think can do it like this is this 179 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 2: is the twentieth time it's happened in baseball history, and 180 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 2: there's a majority of the guys in the last forty 181 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 2: so years I'd maybe say fifty years or so, guys 182 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 2: who started in the late fifties and the nineteen sixties 183 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 2: that pitched into the seventies and eighties. That's where you 184 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 2: get a majority of these twenty strikeout guys. In fact, 185 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 2: only one pitcher had three thousand strikeouts that started his 186 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 2: career didn't pitch like prior to or pitched prior to 187 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 2: nineteen fifty nine, and that was Walter Johnson. So you 188 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 2: have this era where you have like Bob Gibson, Nolan Ryan, 189 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:16,839 Speaker 2: Steve Carlton pitched into the early eighties. You have Tom 190 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 2: sever some of those older arms. But then about half 191 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 2: the list is made up of names that we all 192 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 2: know and recognize, including Clayton Kershaw, Max Schurzer, Justin Verlander. 193 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 2: So my whole thing is, I understand that the pitching, 194 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 2: the starting pitching role is different than it has been 195 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 2: in the past, but it's not like this was an 196 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 2: easily accessible mark at some point, like only twenty guys 197 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 2: have gotten it. So to think that there won't be 198 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 2: a Unicorn or someone like a Trek Scouoble or whoever. 199 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 2: Paul Skeens is the name that's thrown around the most 200 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 2: because he's so young and could possibly do it. Just 201 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:58,719 Speaker 2: I kind of want to pump the brakes on that 202 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 2: because I feel it diminished, which is the fact that 203 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 2: there are only twenty guys that have done this, that 204 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 2: have had this accomplishment. It's not like there were eighty 205 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 2: seven guys and now nobody has done it for thirty years. 206 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 2: Like we've had guys recently do this, and they've been 207 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 2: able to do it a bit more frequently than say 208 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 2: they did, you know, sixty seventy years ago, but it's 209 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 2: still only twenty guys in Major League Baseball, and I 210 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 2: feel like there's a little bit almost of like the 211 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 2: record of that we'll ever see this again. Well yeah, 212 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 2: well we actually have only seen it nineteen other times 213 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 2: aside from last night. So that's kind of my takeaway 214 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 2: of it is it's more of like it's a rare 215 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 2: feat that we are kind of trying to normalize to 216 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 2: reflect the state of current baseball, and I just don't 217 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 2: necessarily think that that matches. 218 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: Up, So that was gonna be my follow up is 219 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 1: you think if it doesn't happen, it's not because the 220 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: role of a starting pitcher or the demands of a 221 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: starting pitcher has changed as much as just it doesn't 222 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: happen pretty much anytime. 223 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 3: Ever. 224 00:10:56,200 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 2: Anyway, I think that I think it also goes and waves. 225 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 2: I don't think that we're gonna end up getting to 226 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 2: baseball twenty five years and now from now where you 227 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 2: just have guys pitch one inning and leave. Like I 228 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 2: think like we're in a certain spot right now. Sure 229 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 2: we're seeing arm injuries, but things change, and I think 230 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:21,079 Speaker 2: at some point things could be different, or you can 231 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 2: get that uniform, that unicorn that leads may the Majors 232 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 2: and leads the AL or NL and strikeouts year after 233 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 2: year after year. And that's the one thing that I'm 234 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 2: waiting to see. Who knows who's going to pitch into 235 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 2: their late thirties and early forties. If Clayton Kershaw is 236 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 2: doing it, and Max Scherzer is doing it, and Justin 237 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,559 Speaker 2: Verlander's doing it, who's to say some of these other 238 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 2: guys can't necessarily do it and also reach that mark 239 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 2: at some point. I think it's just easy to say 240 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 2: now when you look at the list and say, well, 241 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 2: this is pitching, this is how pitching's gone, this is 242 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 2: how pitching's going. Well, maybe maybe that's the case. You 243 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,439 Speaker 2: have information now, but if you actually look over the past, 244 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 2: it's a difficult feat to to accomplish, and the pitching 245 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 2: waves that you've seen, I think it's it's been more 246 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 2: up and down than in the past. 247 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: Now it makes perfect sense, It makes perfect sense, and 248 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 1: it was a cool moment, a rare moment. 249 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. 250 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 1: I guess I do lean towards it's probably not likely 251 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,839 Speaker 1: to happen, and I coming into the show lean more 252 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: towards it's probably not gonna happen because of again the 253 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,079 Speaker 1: changes of the expectations of a starting pitcher. But I 254 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 1: think you've made me kind of reconsider it from that 255 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: perspective as well as it's probably not gonna happen again 256 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 1: anytime soon, simply because it's just a really hard thing 257 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: to do. 258 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 2: Manzi. 259 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 4: I mean, you're being logical here, and it makes sense, 260 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 4: but I do think it's more of the Yeah, it 261 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 4: was rare, as it was. I do think we may 262 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 4: not see it again because of the way pitching has 263 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 4: gone lately, Like you have to expect Paul Skeins to 264 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 4: not get injured and miss you know, and then if 265 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 4: he does get injured, to come back and be as 266 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 4: successful as he was. There's like a lot of factors, 267 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 4: but I think the big factor is how we are 268 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 4: utilizing starting pitchers right now. 269 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,439 Speaker 3: And that's, of course, assuming that he pitches. 270 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 5: Like years exactly. 271 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, so interesting. 272 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 2: Jason Stewart, you're a baseball officionado, do you think we'll 273 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 2: see three thousand? And I'm using the air quotes anytime soon. 274 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 6: I think I was doing the math last night. Right, 275 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 6: if Chris Sale gets healthy and stays healthy, he's got 276 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 6: a shot, he gets a ton of strikeouts and a 277 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 6: short amount of time, he might be the last one. 278 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 6: But I hope he doesn't. I want Kershaw to be 279 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 6: kind of the pitcher that closes the door on this. 280 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 6: And I was looking at this last night. So my 281 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 6: entire lifetime, there have been two benchmarks that guaranteed you 282 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 6: a Hall of Fame induction, three hundred wins and three 283 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 6: thousand strikeouts. Right, there are fewer pitchers with three thousand 284 00:13:57,720 --> 00:13:59,439 Speaker 6: strikeouts than three hundred wins. 285 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 3: I didn't. That's great. 286 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 6: I didn't know, so that kind of speaks to this accomplishment. 287 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 6: And to Dan's point, it's it's just it's so rare. Anyways, 288 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 6: it will probably be the last one. And I was 289 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 6: talking to Ryan Bersching. Are we all know Ryan? She 290 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 6: actually co hosts. He actually co hosts the sick podcast 291 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 6: The Dodgers Own with Manzi Bonios and Bo Bentson, And 292 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 6: I said, I don't think that the twenty twenty one 293 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 6: or twenty twenty two Dodgers would have done what they 294 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 6: did last night. In other words, the twenty twenty one 295 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 6: Dodgers Kershaw would have left without without his three thousand k. 296 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 6: And he's doing it next week in Milwaukee and then 297 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 6: and the Dodgers would never have won a game like that. Like, 298 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 6: but there's something about the new Dodgers that meets the moment. 299 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 6: Something happened last year, some some page was turned and 300 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 6: maybe it's the show hey thing. But everything happened last 301 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 6: night the way it was supposed to happen, and that's 302 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 6: what kind of made it special too. I don't know 303 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 6: if the three thousandth k is as special without the walkoff. 304 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 6: You know that it was such a cherry on top 305 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 6: of the cake. You know, well, and it's really funny. 306 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 6: So Jay stew and MATSI can hop in like something happened. 307 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 6: So like obviously Dave Roberts was known as like the 308 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 6: buy the book manager. We stay what happened in the 309 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 6: play something happened in the playoffs last year? Was it 310 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 6: the clinching game he kept somebody in or he took 311 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 6: somebody out earlier where it was like, oh, he has 312 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 6: never done this before. 313 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 3: And I don't know if it. 314 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: Was in that moment or since that moment that to 315 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: your point, it's like, yes, we understand the analytics of 316 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: it's better to take him out after this time as 317 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: opposed to this time, but it is this is a 318 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: unique situation. I'm just curious, Like it does feel like 319 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: I don't know if it was during the playoff run 320 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: or because they won the World Series, but it just 321 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: does feel like something's a little bit different there. 322 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 6: Absolutely different. And Dave Roberts, to his credit last night, 323 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 6: and I'm sorry I didn't even hear him afterwards talk 324 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 6: about it, but I'm guessing he was thinking, I have 325 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 6: what a thirty eight year old pitcher and I are, 326 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 6: however old he is, He's thrown ninety one pitch. He's 327 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 6: gotta be gassed. He didn't have his stuff all night. 328 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 6: Watch him anyways. Yeah, and it's like it would have 329 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 6: been so easy to take him out. I think most 330 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 6: of the people watching the game thought he was going 331 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 6: to take him out. So what's surprised all of us 332 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 6: that he brought him out? And thank god he did. 333 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely, I think everybody gasped and cheered when he 334 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 4: came back out for that final sixth inning. 335 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 5: Yeah. 336 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 2: I liked him in that spot. I really did. 337 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 4: And yeah, Dave Roberts, like he really did make. It 338 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 4: wasn't one move, Aaron, because of the numerous pitchers that 339 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 4: we had on I l the moves that he made. 340 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 5: It wasn't one too. He made a. 341 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 4: Lot of really good moves, which he maybe had not 342 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 4: in the past. 343 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: I just remember as a guy who admittedly is a 344 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: casual baseball fan but was also critical of being two 345 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: by the books, two analytical in previous World Series runs. 346 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: I remember being impressed by him, like I am like 347 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: an old school baseball fan of like you go with 348 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: the feel of the game, and like it's not to 349 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: say that the picture if he doesn't throw one hundred 350 00:16:58,800 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: twenty pitches. 351 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 3: He's not a real man. 352 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: Like, that's not what I'm saying, But like what I 353 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: am saying is, you know, we all go back to 354 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 1: the famous you know, Blake Snell, and I know it 355 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 1: wasn't the Dodgers remembered he got taken out like the 356 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: fifth inning of a clinching Gate era, you know, losing 357 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: go home game of the World Series, and everybody's like, 358 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,199 Speaker 1: what are we doing? And I just seem to remember 359 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 1: last year it was the balance of Okay, we understand 360 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 1: the analytics and they are important in our decision making process, 361 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna go a little bit of feel old school. 362 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 3: This and that. So it's just something that I remembered 363 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 3: that kind of played into last night. 364 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 2: Well it's also, you know, to Manzi's point, even though 365 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 2: it was Yamamoto babblehead night, Kurshaw's next start is scheduled 366 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:34,719 Speaker 2: to be in Milwaukee. You know, do you wanna do 367 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, he could give up nineteen 368 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 2: runs in that inning, but if you know, if he 369 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 2: was gonna get he was gonna get that strikeout at 370 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 2: some point, just leave him on, leave him out there? 371 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 2: Can I quick, just go back to just the numbers 372 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 2: sort of thing, because this is the as I look 373 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 2: at these numbers, Randy Johnson absurd right there. So Randy 374 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 2: Johnson's second all time and strikeouts through about twelve hundred 375 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 2: innings less than Nolan Ryan, and his only nine hundred 376 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 2: strikeouts shy of him all time. So Randy Johnson was 377 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 2: leading the league in strikeouts in the late nineties and 378 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:14,120 Speaker 2: early two thousands with three hundred and sixty four three 379 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 2: hundred and seventy two three hundred and thirty four strikeouts. 380 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:23,120 Speaker 2: To Jason's point about Chris Sale, Chris Sale has led 381 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 2: the league strikeouts before, but only once in his careers 382 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 2: he'd thrown three hundred or more strikeouts. So the question becomes, 383 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 2: I think, is longevity. Yeah, so if you're a pitcher 384 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 2: like Spencer Strider at two hundred and eighty strikeouts a 385 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 2: couple of years ago, it's best in the National League. 386 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 2: He underwent Tommy John surgery. I know he's not having 387 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 2: the greatest year this year, but you would have to 388 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 2: think that Spencer Strider's career is going to last long. 389 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 2: I think that's the true test of time. If you 390 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 2: consistently can be there for your team, which again is 391 00:18:56,560 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 2: a huge ask because again, only twenty guys have done it. 392 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 2: It's not necessarily just the power pitchers. I don't think 393 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 2: it's necessarily the new way of baseball because you're not 394 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 2: playing the new way of baseball with your horses. I 395 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 2: think it's just it's maybe different early in Schemes's career 396 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 2: because you're trying to all right, let's not burn him 397 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 2: out so quickly. But at some point he's going to 398 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 2: carry a load that's like a Garrett Cole workload, who 399 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 2: again could be close as well. He's got his own 400 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 2: arm injuries and Tommy John surgery to deal with. But 401 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 2: like to sit there and say, like, we're never gonna 402 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 2: see this again, it's tough to say because you don't 403 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 2: know if a twenty two year old is going to 404 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,959 Speaker 2: pitch fifteen years in the majors, you know what I mean. So, 405 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,959 Speaker 2: and that's just where I go with this of like, 406 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 2: we want to make these these proclamations about the state 407 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 2: of pitching in the Major League Baseball, most of which 408 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 2: are true, But there are different types of guys out there, 409 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 2: and those are the guys that could be number twenty 410 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 2: one or twenty two. 411 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 1: Well, and I think to your point earlier, sports are cyclical, 412 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 1: and like the reference you made about the game, right, 413 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: it was like five years ago, you can't draft a 414 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 1: running back in the first round. It's the dumbest thing 415 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 1: you've ever done. It's like, who are the two most 416 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 1: valuable players in the league last year? I know who 417 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: won the award, but it was probably Saquon Barkley and 418 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry. You know, It's like basketball death of the Center. 419 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 3: I don't know. 420 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: I watched Joe Yo Kitchen the playoffs this year. He's 421 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: pretty good, you know, And it's like, so, you know, 422 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, I don't know when it 423 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,479 Speaker 1: would happen, or how it would happen, or what the 424 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 1: circumstances would be. Where pitchers just in general are kind 425 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: of given a longer leash. Maybe maybe at some point 426 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: the analytics back up that you don't need to pull 427 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: him after you know, seventy five eighty eighty five pitches. 428 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 3: Whatever. 429 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: But to your point, and I do think it is 430 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 1: an important one, is sports are cyclical, and even just 431 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: in the time that we've been doing this, how many 432 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 1: things are are etched in stone as certainty again. 433 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 3: Run game, it's dead. The center it's dead. 434 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: The SEC is definitively better than the Big Ten in 435 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: color college football. Well, you know, it's a cycle, cyclical. 436 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,360 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, we have back to back Big 437 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 1: Ten champions. So I think that's an interesting point as well, 438 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: is that I think we do get caught up in 439 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: a moment too much, and sometimes things do kind of 440 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: revert back to things that we're not necessarily expecting. 441 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 2: He's Aeron Torres. I'm Dan Byer. That's Monson Belanios at 442 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 2: the news desk. 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Welcome in back again with Aaron Torres. 463 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 2: I'm Dan Byer in for Covino and Rich here on 464 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 2: a Thursday, a July fourth, even Independence Day eve. It 465 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 2: is July three. Welcome to Fox Sports Radio. Jason Stewarts 466 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:53,479 Speaker 2: our executive producer, Iowa sam Ar, technical producer, and I 467 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 2: thought Manzie Milanio's at the news desk was just a 468 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 2: leading with the Luis Ortiz story earlier so she could 469 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 2: flex or Luis Ortisse pronunciation. However, Aaron, when I saw 470 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,199 Speaker 2: this pitch, Oh my goodness, did you see this Luis 471 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 2: Ortiz pitch? Now that is under investigation. 472 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 3: I'm gonna look it up right now. The one thing. 473 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 1: I will say, I don't totally know what those integrity 474 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 1: groups do, but I know that they are, like they're 475 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: unbelievable with the things that they can uncover. And when 476 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: you hear that one of the integrity firms is involved, yeah, 477 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 1: you probably did something and you're gonna get in a 478 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: lot of trouble for it. 479 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 2: So MANSI, I. 480 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 3: Know that you've oh I see it now, but going. 481 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 2: Okay, hey, there's the one against the Mariners that is 482 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 2: kind of like, okay, the one against the Cardinals. My goodness, 483 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:54,360 Speaker 2: like this thing it it one hopped. It one hopped 484 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 2: about fifty two feet from the pitcher's mound. It was 485 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 2: I mean it was it was like halfway to the plate. 486 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 2: Like it wasn't even close. So there's a reason why 487 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 2: Major League Baseball needs to needs to investigate. 488 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 1: Wait, this would be like, this would be like I 489 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: need to get fired from Fox Sports Radio because of XYZ. 490 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it to lead hour two and then 491 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: you're just like, Aaron, how are you? And then I 492 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 1: just rip off like eight straight expletives in a row. 493 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: It's like, okay, now we have to fire them. It's 494 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: like okay, yeah, it's not a perfect analogy. But if 495 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,919 Speaker 1: you were betting on yourself to throw a ball, it 496 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 1: doesn't get much more of a ball than that one 497 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: right there. 498 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 2: People think the Malik Beasley late bucket to cover the 499 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 2: spread was obvious. This is one hundred times worse like 500 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 2: this is. It's just I get it now, I absolutely 501 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 2: get it. I thought it was another case of like, 502 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 2: all right, whatever, this thing wasn't even close because the 503 00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 2: bet was apparently on a first pitch strike, you could 504 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 2: throw it anywhere. He could throw it to the moon, 505 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 2: and Luis Ortiz may have tried to. It felt like 506 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 2: he tried to throw it to the core of the earth, 507 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 2: like that's how far short it came from home plate. 508 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 2: But that's what major League Baseball is looking into. And 509 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 2: Louis Ortiz, if that's any evidence, I think is going 510 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,120 Speaker 2: to be missing some more time in Major League Baseball 511 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 2: than just the leave that he was placed on today. 512 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 2: Welcome in. It is Caveno or Rich here on Fox 513 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 2: Sports Radio. For over forty years, tireq has been helping 514 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 2: customers find the right tires for how, what and where 515 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 2: they drive. Ship Fast and free back by free Road 516 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 2: has in protection with convenient installation options like mobile tire 517 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,479 Speaker 2: installation tire req dot com, the way tire buying should be. 518 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 2: It's crazy to think, but next week is actually the 519 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 2: start of the college football season. And I say that 520 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 2: because you know it. But for those of you that 521 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 2: don't know, media days starting up. Big twelve has their 522 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 2: media availabilities starting on Tuesday of next week. The SEC 523 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 2: will follow in the following week, and then the Big 524 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 2: Ten will have theirs later on in the month of 525 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 2: July in Las Vegas. Same thing with the ACC. But 526 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,239 Speaker 2: next week we're going to be talking college football. And 527 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 2: yesterday on Fox Sports Radio on The Doug Gottlieb Show, 528 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 2: executive producer Jason Stewart, who's hanging out with us, brought 529 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 2: up the topic of the midway and what we were 530 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,199 Speaker 2: looking forward to for the rest of the season. For 531 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 2: the rest of the year, excuse me, and Aaron I 532 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 2: said something in there about college football because I feel 533 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 2: that there's not a lot of buzz with college football 534 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,400 Speaker 2: entering this season, and I think one of the reasons 535 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 2: is because there's no Nick Saban And I realize now 536 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 2: how much college football missus Saban being in the game. 537 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,919 Speaker 2: And I think last year we felt well Alabama is 538 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 2: still Alabama? How are they going to respond without Saban? 539 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 2: I didn't believe that Alabama was still Alabama, and it 540 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 2: showed last year. And now we enter this year and 541 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 2: I don't think Alabama is a part of any major 542 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 2: conversation when talking about college football. And when we're talking 543 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 2: about college football, we're talking about arch Manning, We're talking 544 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 2: about Penn State and maybe little Ohio State, a little 545 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 2: of Ohio State, and what can Dion do now in Colorado. 546 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 2: Outside of that, I know, conference wise, there's going to 547 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 2: be stuff, but on a national scale, I don't think 548 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 2: that there's a ton for people to latch outo right now. 549 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 2: And I think part of the reason is because a 550 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 2: figure like Nick Saban and what he meant to Alabama 551 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 2: is no longer in the game. And I feel that 552 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 2: college football we're really feeling the effects of no Nick 553 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 2: Saban in the game. 554 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 3: So two quick thoughts, because I know you want to 555 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 3: open it up to the group. One. 556 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: First of all, even with the arch Manning stuff, it 557 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: felt that did this week feel a little manufactured too? 558 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,719 Speaker 1: Like it was just nobody there's nothing to talk about. Oh, 559 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: let's get Paul Finebaum on and have him say something crazy, 560 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 1: and that was where he said, oh, I think Arch 561 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 1: is gonna be the best quarterback since Tim Tebow, and 562 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 1: then it just became a talking point and it didn't 563 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 1: feel to me. It didn't feel organic. It felt like 564 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 1: we need somebody to say something crazy so we have 565 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 1: something to talk about. And I don't even think even 566 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: with Arch, it's as big as I think. I think 567 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 1: a lot of people are intrigued, but I don't think 568 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: it's as big as people think. The other thing too, 569 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 1: Dan that I'm gonna say, and I do think Saban 570 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: is a big part of why there's no buzz. I 571 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 1: am gonna say something extremely unpopular, but I truly believe it. 572 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 1: I think part of the reason there's no buzz is 573 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: because individual games do not matter as much anymore, and 574 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: so it's like, yeah, Ohio State Texas is gonna be 575 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: really cool, but either of those teams can lose, and 576 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: it's like whatever, and I it's a broader conversation for 577 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 1: another day. You and I will probably be filling in 578 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 1: at some point and we can dive into this. But like, 579 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: what made college football college football was that every single 580 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: Saturday mattered every single year, and that just isn't the 581 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: case anymore. So it's like, yeah, we can be excited 582 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: for Ohio State Texas, but ultimately it doesn't have the 583 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: stakes that it would have even two, three, four years ago. 584 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: And I think that's part of it as well. Maybe 585 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: I'm crazy, but I think that's part of it. 586 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 2: Well, the only pushback that I would give to that 587 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 2: is last year July third, we were not looking forward 588 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 2: to an Indiana Ohio State game, and then Indiana does 589 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 2: what they do and all of a sudden that becomes 590 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 2: quite the matchup. 591 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 6: Oh. 592 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: I'm not saying there's not individual games that matter over 593 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: the course of the year. 594 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 3: I do think that. 595 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 1: And by the way, it actually didn't end up mattering 596 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: because both teams made the playoff. 597 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 2: Sure, so it was the lead up to it, there 598 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 2: there was hype. 599 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and there there was hype in the lead 600 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: up to a lot of games. But I just think 601 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: that I don't know, it's just it's just I don't 602 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: want to say it's like again, I think individual fan 603 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 1: bases like, yeah, you're excited about your team and you're 604 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: worried about this, and you're this and that. 605 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 3: But as a sport, I think it's harder to. 606 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: Like on a week two week basis, feel as invested 607 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: when you know the games don't mean as much. And 608 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: maybe I'm the only one that feels that way, and 609 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 1: I'm still listening. I'm still excited about Clem's in LSU 610 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: in week one. I'm still excited about Michigan and Oklahoma 611 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: early in the year, certainly Texas, Ohio State. But I 612 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,719 Speaker 1: just I think that's part of it, too, is everybody 613 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 1: knows that any individual result doesn't matter the way that 614 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: it did two years ago, and I think that's part 615 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,479 Speaker 1: of why there's probably not as much exciting. 616 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 2: It will be interesting to see the ramifications, especially with 617 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 2: Ohio State losing to Michigan and then winning the National Championship. 618 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 2: Does that happen in other scenarios as well? Does that 619 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 2: happen in an Iron Bowl? You know? Does that? You know? 620 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 2: Does that happen in an Oregon Washington match up? You 621 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 2: know those sort of things where your team loses and 622 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 2: then you go on to win and you have those 623 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 2: fan bases bickering over it. But I get what you're saying. 624 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 2: I think that the lack of having in Alabama there 625 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,719 Speaker 2: is telling. I felt that Lebron James should have probably 626 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 2: retired two years ago to allow the NBA to breathe, 627 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 2: But at some point I think that the league will 628 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 2: miss him, sure, And so that's kind of so with 629 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 2: college football. We had great coaches, and Dabo's still at 630 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 2: Clemson with the national championship, but Jim Harbaugh's left Urban 631 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 2: Myers no longer coaching, But I think Saban still brought 632 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 2: it with just who he is and what Alabama is, 633 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 2: so it's not equal to everyone else. And I look 634 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 2: at the NFL. I don't even know if we miss 635 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 2: anybody from the NFL. I can tell you that we 636 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:54,719 Speaker 2: actually we didn't miss Ben Roethlisberger. We didn't miss Philip Rivers, 637 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 2: we didn't miss Drew Brees. We probably didn't miss Peyton 638 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 2: Manning because Tom Brady just kept on playing. So if 639 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 2: there was any point of years past that we wanted 640 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 2: to carry on, it was just latched on to Brady 641 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 2: that we're like, okay, well at least Brady's still here 642 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 2: to keep things normal. Then Brady leaves and there wasn't 643 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 2: as much of a shock. And I don't know if 644 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 2: it's because Aaron Rodgers was still there or Patrick Mahomes 645 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 2: has done what he's done, or Lamar Jackson and Josh 646 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 2: Allen have emerged. But I feel that's all part of it. 647 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 2: And that's what I find like so interesting is just 648 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 2: because you're great in your like a massive star, when 649 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 2: you leave, it doesn't necessarily translate into you actually being missed. 650 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 2: And we were just talking about Caitlin Clark, and I'm 651 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 2: sorry for as much as growth as the women's game has, 652 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 2: I think we felt that college basketball did not. Women's 653 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 2: college basketball last year did not have the same oomph 654 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 2: as it did then when Caitlin Clark was there the 655 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 2: last two years. So technically in women's college basketball, you 656 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,719 Speaker 2: can name all the players that they had and what 657 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 2: Yukon did, but it still wasn't necessarily the same. And 658 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 2: I think ratings proved that that sport missed Caitlin Clark. 659 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 2: I'm not sure every sport take away their superstar actually 660 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 2: misses their superstar. 661 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: No, And I think it's a great point on the 662 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: NFL too, and I think it's obvious, but it is 663 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 1: such a unique like I think it's such a unique 664 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 1: business and enterprise in that it's one of the biggest 665 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 1: businesses that we have in America and it continues to 666 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 1: find ways to grow, continues to find ways to be relevant, 667 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 1: and you know, if I can run back to college 668 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 1: football for a second, like that's what I find very 669 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 1: interesting about the state of college football is I think 670 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 1: we're increasingly going to it's just a minor league for 671 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 1: the NFL. From the perspective of expanded playoff, regular season 672 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 1: doesn't matter as much, players getting paid, all of that. 673 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: But the thing that makes the NFL the NFL, I 674 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 1: think part of it is the juice angle that you're 675 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 1: talking about. The NFL finds ways to make you care 676 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:10,320 Speaker 1: about the NFL in February and March with free obviously 677 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:14,280 Speaker 1: on February, but March with free agency, April with the draft, 678 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 1: May with the schedule release. And I know this isn't 679 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 1: necessarily a compare and the NFL to college football, but 680 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: I think that's where college football, and to the point 681 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 1: that you're making about there not being a lot of 682 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 1: buzz going into this season, I think that's where college football. 683 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:31,359 Speaker 3: You can't just. 684 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 1: Keep expanding, expanding, expanding, expanding. You have to make people 685 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 1: care in other ways. And I'll just I know it's 686 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: not the focal point of what we're talking about but 687 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 1: I just think it's an interesting conversation that college football, 688 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,240 Speaker 1: in the growth that they've experienced in expansion and paying 689 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 1: players and all of the things that have happened, I 690 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 1: don't think they factored that part in. And that's what 691 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 1: the NFL does better than everybody else. 692 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, major League Baseball for so long 693 00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:01,720 Speaker 2: was kind of looking for that stuf. Like I felt 694 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 2: major League Baseball missed Derek Jeter when he retired, Like 695 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 2: I don't think it, you know, when a Rod had 696 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 2: his issues, Like there are other greats from that era, 697 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 2: but I felt and out bringing Jason or or Monci 698 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 2: in this and just because they're baseball heads, like I 699 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:23,280 Speaker 2: felt something was missing from baseball when Jeter left, because 700 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:27,839 Speaker 2: he's the captain, he's the Yankees, he's that generation that 701 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 2: we watched for so long and tied to, and then 702 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 2: there was nobody there in Major League Baseball to immediately 703 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 2: pick up uh or carry that torch. Did any of 704 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 2: you guys feel the same when Jeter retired a decade ago? 705 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I think that's a fair statement. 706 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 4: I feel like, especially seeing the stars right now in baseball, 707 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 4: because there's so many right now, I feel that people 708 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,840 Speaker 4: tune in to watch, and I think there was like 709 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 4: like a lull where yeah. 710 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,320 Speaker 5: Like it was like, uh, who am I going to 711 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 5: tune in. 712 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 2: To watch well? 713 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 1: And it wasn't just Jeter, it was Jeter was a 714 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 1: metaphor for like that era of the Yankees where it 715 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 1: was like, you know, it was the cliche, but it 716 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 1: was true whether you loved him or whether you hated him. 717 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 1: They were pretty much in the World Series every year 718 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 1: and you were watching him, and you were watching him 719 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 1: the root for him, watching him, root against him. And 720 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: I think Jeter was a metaphor for that era, and 721 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 1: then when he was gone, it was like, oh, that 722 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 1: era is officially over. 723 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,440 Speaker 2: I think that when you look at tennis and we're 724 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 2: just saying it right now. By the way, that my 725 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 2: way Derek Jeter commercial that they did, I think it 726 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 2: was gatorade like in this final year, like like I'm 727 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 2: you know, cutting onions, you know, chopping up onions and 728 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,359 Speaker 2: watching it. I didn't care about the Yankees at all, 729 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 2: was never a Yankees fan, but like watching that, you know, 730 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 2: plus he's a Michigan guy, you know, like like I 731 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,280 Speaker 2: have no reason to like Derek Jeter whatsoever, But seeing 732 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 2: that I was like, oh, geez man, why you know, 733 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,840 Speaker 2: what's up with the pollen man? This is crazy in tennis, 734 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 2: I'll say this, the trio of the Federer, Nadal, Djoko 735 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 2: that we've had and become accustomed to, we only have 736 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 2: thirty three percent. Djokovic is still playing. Now Federer and 737 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 2: Nadala moved on. Serena Williams was women's tennis for two 738 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:15,360 Speaker 2: decades and now I you know, we're talking cocoa golf 739 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 2: here and there. She's one of the many that are 740 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:23,359 Speaker 2: out Madison Keyes's you know, just it was Serena and 741 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,800 Speaker 2: during that time when you watched, you either Serena was 742 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 2: playing or you weren't paying attention. And so like that's 743 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 2: the level that I go to. And that may be 744 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 2: the like the super extreme, but I think like with 745 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 2: even like the newer Carlos Alkarez and Yanick Sinner, who 746 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 2: people are becoming more accustomed to, and with Djokovic still playing, 747 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 2: has really softened the loss of Federer and Nadal, But 748 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 2: there's been nothing to take the spot of Serena Williams, 749 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,319 Speaker 2: and I don't think there there really ever will be 750 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 2: in women's tennis. But that's that's like one where I 751 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:55,359 Speaker 2: say like, wow, I truly miss because every summer we're 752 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 2: waiting every other day for Serena to play, or even 753 00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 2: Venus for that matter, but specifically Serena, and I think 754 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,880 Speaker 2: that was that's a big miss that we have in sports. 755 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,400 Speaker 1: Let me ask your question, Dan. Obviously, you know college oops, 756 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,839 Speaker 1: guy whatever. I don't really feel like Duke is as 757 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:14,720 Speaker 1: hateable without coach K. John Shire really has no opinion 758 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,799 Speaker 1: or no personality. I'll actually say this, like being at 759 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 1: the Final four with him this year, he actually seems 760 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 1: like a genuinely nice human being. 761 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:23,919 Speaker 3: You know, we talked about Kershaw earlier. 762 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,920 Speaker 1: It's like with Shire, it was like and it was 763 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 1: funny because I said he's the anti JJ Reddick, Like 764 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 1: basically nothing was about him. Everything was about how great 765 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 1: his coaching staff was, his players were, the player's parents were. 766 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:38,920 Speaker 1: I owe it all to them. Da da da da da. 767 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,439 Speaker 1: And it's like, you know, college oops is a niche sport, 768 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 1: but so is tennis, so is whatever. And I do 769 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,920 Speaker 1: feel like Duke is less hateable and because they're less hateable, 770 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 1: less interesting without coach K. 771 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 2: Jason Stewart's our executive producer. 772 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,360 Speaker 6: I was thinking the exact same thing. Aaron and I 773 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,799 Speaker 6: come at it from completely different ways, Like he is 774 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 6: fully involved in the sport and I'm as casual as 775 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 6: you could be. So from my perspective, I have felt 776 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:10,360 Speaker 6: that the last couple tournaments, I've felt the last two marches, 777 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 6: I have felt that there's just there's no there there 778 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 6: sure so it was like either you were counting all 779 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:20,800 Speaker 6: of Coach K's accolades or you were rooting against Duke, 780 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 6: but there was just something tangible, something memorable about those 781 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:26,880 Speaker 6: And I totally agree. 782 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 2: Yes, I was gonna say, I'm like, on a certain level, 783 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 2: Jim Beheim at Syracuse and like of that, but not 784 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 2: like Syracuse is so like far off the map, like 785 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't even remember any highlight from any 786 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 2: game at the Carrier Dome this past season, like none, 787 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 2: Like I don't remember it ever being spotlighted. But I 788 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,879 Speaker 2: also think, like with the absence and you're you're you're 789 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 2: both right on Coach K. I also think it's helped 790 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:57,479 Speaker 2: tom Izzo's profile because he and I guess Mark few 791 00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,839 Speaker 2: if you want to, but it's still not you know, 792 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,759 Speaker 2: ISO's Iso, I feel is the last him and Bill 793 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,279 Speaker 2: salf and Mark few of the last ones. But I 794 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 2: think it's really helped Izo of being that old guy 795 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,799 Speaker 2: because of the showdowns that he had with Coach K 796 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,920 Speaker 2: and Roy Williams and others. But I feel like Izzo 797 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 2: has kind of benefited from us missing a guy like 798 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:18,520 Speaker 2: Coach K. 799 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,160 Speaker 3: You know, I think it's a great point. And I 800 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:21,720 Speaker 3: think he was the one. 801 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:26,839 Speaker 1: I mean, he was as vocal as any of them about, Hey, 802 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,440 Speaker 1: you know, this portal thing's kind of out of control, 803 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 1: this nil thing. If we thought about how we're gonna 804 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 1: do it, and I think the other guys and like, listen, 805 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 1: I know it's easy to just like bash. Like I 806 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,239 Speaker 1: understand Coach K is like seventy three years old. He's like, 807 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:43,360 Speaker 1: I don't want to just figure out anil Like, okay, 808 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,800 Speaker 1: so one day we go from we can't pay players 809 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 1: and we'll be fired if we do too. There's literally 810 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:50,960 Speaker 1: no rules on how much we can pay them. Like, 811 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,880 Speaker 1: so I don't blame Coach K or Roy Williams or 812 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 1: whatever for just saying, you know what, I'll let somebody 813 00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:57,279 Speaker 1: else figure this out. 814 00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 3: I'm in my seventies. 815 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 1: But I do think it does give Tom Izzo some 816 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,959 Speaker 1: cachet of like oh crap, Like we watched him last year, 817 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:06,799 Speaker 1: you know, and again, if you're not a diehard, you 818 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,239 Speaker 1: don't remember all the details. But they won the Big 819 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,239 Speaker 1: Ten regular season, they went to the Elite eight. In 820 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,279 Speaker 1: the Elite eight, they lost to the only team that 821 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:15,840 Speaker 1: was better. You know, they lost. They were as a 822 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,279 Speaker 1: two seed, they lost to a one seed, and it's like, oh, 823 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,680 Speaker 1: Izzo still got the goods. And I do think, like, 824 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,040 Speaker 1: it's not like you move him up in all time 825 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:26,719 Speaker 1: lists because he's figured it out. 826 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 3: But I think it's pretty cool that. 827 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 1: You know, some guys just kind of punted on this 828 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 1: era un said I'll never figure it out, and he 829 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,239 Speaker 1: was one that he's kind of doing it the same way. 830 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 3: He doesn't take a. 831 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,840 Speaker 1: Lot of transfers, he doesn't have a team that shoots 832 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,920 Speaker 1: forty three is a game, and it's like, oh, tom Izzo, 833 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 1: there he is another Big Ten championship. 834 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,279 Speaker 2: You know, who do you think or who do you 835 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,520 Speaker 2: feel that you miss in sports? Who is sports missing? 836 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 2: We want to hear from you eight seven seven nine 837 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,759 Speaker 2: nine on Fox A's eight seven seven nin nine to 838 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 2: six six' three six.' nine you can also reach us on. 839 00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 2: Social media hit Up aeron Torres at Air Under underscore TORRES. 840 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 2: On x you can find Me At dan Byer. On 841 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,279 Speaker 2: fox Also On blue Sky. AERON torres i don't know 842 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,919 Speaker 2: if you, knew that but At dan Byer On blue 843 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 2: sky as well giving us your nominations of who you 844 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,719 Speaker 2: actually missed. In sports do You think i'm far off 845 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,279 Speaker 2: base with the quarterback stuff IN? The, NFL no. 846 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:17,839 Speaker 3: I think you're. 847 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:22,600 Speaker 1: SPOT on i think it's actually. Relatively Incredible and i'll 848 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:23,880 Speaker 1: be quick on THIS because i know we want to 849 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 1: get to some calls, and STUFF but i think it's 850 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:31,239 Speaker 1: especially interesting given what did we Spend all April and 851 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 1: may talking about who is the face OF? The nba 852 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 1: do we need a face OF. The nba why don't 853 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,759 Speaker 1: we have a face OF the nba IN the nfl, is, 854 00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:42,080 Speaker 1: like yeah, you know just literally the greatest quarterback ever 855 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,919 Speaker 1: retired and we're just gonna keep chugging along without missing. 856 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:45,759 Speaker 3: A beat it's kind. 857 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,640 Speaker 1: Of INCREDIBLE and i know it's easy to prop UP 858 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,239 Speaker 1: the nfl and push DOWN, the NBA but i think 859 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 1: that is an interesting analogy of Even when brady was 860 00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 1: the last of that group to leave, the league didn't miss, 861 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:03,040 Speaker 1: a beat and here we are, you know still trying 862 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 1: to figure Out as lebron is going about to be. 863 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 1: Forty one we know he's nothing close to the best 864 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,400 Speaker 1: player in the. League anymore who is the quote unquote 865 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 1: face of? The league probably five six years after he 866 00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:12,160 Speaker 1: last should. 867 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 2: Have been He's. Erin Torres I'm, Dan Bayer jason Stewarts, 868 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,239 Speaker 2: Here iowa Sam And monty belanio's at the news desk 869 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,759 Speaker 2: hanging Out for Cavino and rich here On this thursday 870 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,520 Speaker 2: as we get set for the Fourth. Of july as 871 00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,080 Speaker 2: we are sitting Here on, July Third. 872 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,800 Speaker 9: Fox sports radio has the best sports talk lineup in the. 873 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,840 Speaker 9: Nation yet catch all of our shows At foxsports radio 874 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,480 Speaker 9: dot com and Within the iHeartRadio app. 875 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:40,120 Speaker 2: Com Here on rich Here On Fox. Sports radio we 876 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,960 Speaker 2: always love The input steve Tweets In Major. League baseball 877 00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:47,520 Speaker 2: never Got Over tommy. Lesorda leaving we'll never see another 878 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,799 Speaker 2: manager Attacked At philly fanatic or go After The San. 879 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:55,000 Speaker 2: Diego chicken very, well, Done. Fair steve i'll tell, you 880 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,239 Speaker 2: what you don't always have to be, a superstar and 881 00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,880 Speaker 2: sometimes the opposite end of. The spectrum by, the way 882 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:01,640 Speaker 2: if you Know when rich Here At Fox Sports radio 883 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,040 Speaker 2: He's erin Torres And I'm. Dan byer we were just 884 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:08,480 Speaker 2: talking about who we've missed, in SPORTS and i think 885 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,719 Speaker 2: you can even just take a Guess, with lebron at 886 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 2: some point the league will, miss him even though we 887 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,360 Speaker 2: get tired of him and get tired of. His antics 888 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,160 Speaker 2: there's gonna be a point where the League Misses. Lebron 889 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,560 Speaker 2: james there's also the point and This Isn't. Lebron James 890 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:25,840 Speaker 2: lebron james. ISN'T irreplaceable i Feel That tiger woods, Was 891 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,799 Speaker 2: irreplaceable like there will never be anybody that fills the 892 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,960 Speaker 2: void in the gap that was Left By tiger woods 893 00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,000 Speaker 2: just KIND of i don't want to say fading away from, 894 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,960 Speaker 2: the game but just not being involved for the variety. 895 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,600 Speaker 2: Of reasons that is one that is just you're never gonna. 896 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,200 Speaker 2: Fill it and as a, GOLF fan i always got 897 00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,799 Speaker 2: annoyed for people who had CRITICIZED The pga tour be 898 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:52,239 Speaker 2: like why can't he had? No plan like there is 899 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,799 Speaker 2: no plan for that to, you know to enter and, 900 00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:59,000 Speaker 2: To Exit Like tiger woods is just the one. 901 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,160 Speaker 1: Of one he was so OBVIOUS that i didn't even 902 00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,360 Speaker 1: feel like it was worth referencing in the, last segment 903 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:10,000 Speaker 1: like it's just in. MY life i mean he has 904 00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:11,960 Speaker 1: to be you Know in Kate len clark may one day, 905 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:15,080 Speaker 1: get there but like he has to be the most irreplaceable, 906 00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,799 Speaker 1: athlete ever and there's just never, you know it's Like 907 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:20,840 Speaker 1: and i'm sure did you let me ask. You this 908 00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,200 Speaker 1: did you Read That army ktaean book that they did? 909 00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:28,319 Speaker 1: On Him, not tiger, BUT no i can't. Believe that 910 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,279 Speaker 1: i've read it probably two or, three times cover. To 911 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:35,080 Speaker 1: cover it's like six. Hundred pages. It's incredible but when 912 00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:39,560 Speaker 1: you understand how he, was raised you just there's there 913 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,040 Speaker 1: will never be as long as they are, playing golf 914 00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,239 Speaker 1: another golfer. Like HIM and i won't bore people too, 915 00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 1: many details but it's like dad was in. THE military 916 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,520 Speaker 1: i mean the dad used to like train him like a, 917 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,799 Speaker 1: football player but with a golf club in. His hand, 918 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,879 Speaker 1: you know like he's, you know getting ready to, tee 919 00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:59,680 Speaker 1: up and, you know the dad's throwing stuff, at him 920 00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,960 Speaker 1: screwing slurs, at, him whatever just to kind of make 921 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:04,640 Speaker 1: him as mentally tough as. 922 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:06,840 Speaker 3: He was and then you add in the, physical. 923 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:09,960 Speaker 1: Ability the, mental ability there's never gonna be anyone, like 924 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:14,160 Speaker 1: him and, you know we have seen, like, Obviously Look 925 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:18,040 Speaker 1: kobe bryant is a Facsimile Of. Michael jordan He Isn't. 926 00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:21,200 Speaker 1: Michael jordan we will just never see anyone Anything Like. 927 00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,160 Speaker 1: Tiger woods, and then by, the way let me also 928 00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,040 Speaker 1: add this really, quick TOO and i didn't mean to. 929 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,720 Speaker 1: Go along the cultural impact of Being Half, african American 930 00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,560 Speaker 1: half asian in what was at the time a very predominantly. 931 00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,040 Speaker 1: White support just never gonna see anything like. 932 00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,120 Speaker 2: It again, that is it is, a huge, huge part 933 00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:39,680 Speaker 2: especially with the history. Of golf by, the way kudos 934 00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,440 Speaker 2: to you for reading, a book because not ONLY do 935 00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,560 Speaker 2: i not, READ books i listen. To them now that's. 936 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,160 Speaker 2: That's good that's. The WAY so i have to get the. 937 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,880 Speaker 2: Audio Book, jason seort are you with me on this or? 938 00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,600 Speaker 2: ARE you, I mean i love to READ and. I 939 00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:57,719 Speaker 2: LISTEN but i was impressed by that By what aaron did. 940 00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,319 Speaker 2: Right there he asked you if you, read it and you, 941 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,960 Speaker 2: said no and then he says he read it at 942 00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,759 Speaker 2: least two or, three times and then he gave the 943 00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:07,919 Speaker 2: number of pages. IT was, i mean that was a, 944 00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,040 Speaker 2: massive book, you know humble bragging about. 945 00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:14,360 Speaker 1: Ten, seconds, well yeah it was no because that WAS 946 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,919 Speaker 1: why i actually thought that you might not have. Read 947 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,680 Speaker 1: it is not because you're not capable of reading six, 948 00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,319 Speaker 1: hundred pages but because it is like a commitment and 949 00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,719 Speaker 1: you are obviously, a father you're a, radio host you 950 00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:27,920 Speaker 1: have a lot. OF responsibilities i. 951 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:28,759 Speaker 2: Love, It yeah i'm. 952 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:29,920 Speaker 3: Dead serious that's why. 953 00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:33,120 Speaker 1: It wasn't like, a look guess you could read six 954 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,200 Speaker 1: hundred pages and guess who can't happy. 955 00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,120 Speaker 2: A lot i actually felt you knew me that you're 956 00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,200 Speaker 2: like man his, attention span. 957 00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,040 Speaker 1: WHICH is i know YOU'RE and i know you're the 958 00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,319 Speaker 1: most passionate golf Fan that i've. Ever met so THAT'S 959 00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,960 Speaker 1: why i thought if it was a, you know six 960 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,719 Speaker 1: hundred page Book On, SERENA williams i might not have asked. 961 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:51,719 Speaker 3: No offense but, you know. 962 00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:55,279 Speaker 2: There is something about diving into a. GOOD book i 963 00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,560 Speaker 2: think that we can, all Appreciate Including, manzi blanios who's 964 00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:02,400 Speaker 2: going to dive into. HER update I Appreciate aaron torres 965 00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:04,440 Speaker 2: not only reading a BOOK because i don't read. Books 966 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:08,520 Speaker 2: twice it's one. AND done i am set FOR. THE 967 00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:10,680 Speaker 2: nba i would Be the cooper FLAG of i Am 968 00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,879 Speaker 2: the cooper flag. Of books one. And done let's get 969 00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,200 Speaker 2: to the. Next thing manci what's? GOING on i. 970 00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,680 Speaker 5: Can reread, a book not, a LOT but. I. 971 00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:22,000 Speaker 1: Can well the problem is when you finish a, good 972 00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,359 Speaker 1: book if you don't have the good book to follow up, 973 00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,560 Speaker 1: with it it's Like a netflix streight and you just 974 00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:27,960 Speaker 1: default to something that you. 975 00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:28,440 Speaker 2: Already. 976 00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,520 Speaker 5: KNOW right i feel. 977 00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,560 Speaker 2: Like, the audiobooks they feel so much, like CHEATING but 978 00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:35,719 Speaker 2: i still feel good, about it Like because, i'm, like 979 00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:39,040 Speaker 2: oh just sitting along in the drive and listen for 980 00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:39,760 Speaker 2: forty Five. 981 00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,640 Speaker 1: Minutes, Moby dick no. Big, deal yeah just caught. It, 982 00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,440 Speaker 1: yesterday yeah ever you know anything? 983 00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:45,720 Speaker 3: About? 984 00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:46,239 Speaker 2: THAT no, i. 985 00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,000 Speaker 6: DON'T guys i FEEL like i feel like listening to 986 00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,960 Speaker 6: books is much more accepted now than it was even ten. 987 00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,040 Speaker 6: Years ago it's kind of like when you meet somebody, 988 00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:57,759 Speaker 6: on tender like you typically wouldn't tell your, folks that 989 00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,320 Speaker 6: but now it's like, very accepted. 990 00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:01,439 Speaker 3: You know about that. 991 00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:05,400 Speaker 1: SPECIFIC thing i feel like it's almost a default to 992 00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,440 Speaker 1: people assume now that's where. People MET like i was 993 00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:11,640 Speaker 1: on vacation last week and they, were, like, oh yeah 994 00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:13,200 Speaker 1: we were WITH my i was with my, wife obviously 995 00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,239 Speaker 1: and they, were, like, oh, so like where'd you guys 996 00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,239 Speaker 1: meet on an APP and i, was, like no we 997 00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,640 Speaker 1: met at, a bar like normal, Human, beings like what, 998 00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:21,120 Speaker 1: The hell well that. 999 00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:25,920 Speaker 4: Is Normal ryan berschinger just married his last, not tender 1000 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:26,359 Speaker 4: but wherever. 1001 00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:26,920 Speaker 5: They met THAT'S what. 1002 00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:27,440 Speaker 2: I mean That's what. 1003 00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:29,720 Speaker 1: I'm saying it's like it's almost a default. Of people 1004 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:31,000 Speaker 1: now assume. 1005 00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:32,960 Speaker 5: One of those it might Have. 1006 00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,680 Speaker 4: Been hinge actually it might have Been, hing yeah so. 1007 00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,560 Speaker 5: It is it is becoming. The norm You're not you're. 1008 00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:38,759 Speaker 2: Not. 1009 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:40,960 Speaker 1: Wrong yeah ONE thing i wanted to say ON that 1010 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:46,840 Speaker 1: i wonder what the normal action on the first pitch 1011 00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:50,960 Speaker 1: of the third inning of a Regular Season major league baseball, 1012 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,279 Speaker 1: Game IS and i wonder how much had to be 1013 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:54,359 Speaker 1: bet for it to. 1014 00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:55,160 Speaker 3: Be flagged you Know what. 1015 00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:58,879 Speaker 2: I'm, saying yeah, you know it's an, easy, bet right 1016 00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:02,719 Speaker 2: it's one of th on. You know but you're, then, 1017 00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:04,840 Speaker 2: wondering like why would all these people be betting On 1018 00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:08,000 Speaker 2: The luis ortiz? First pitch so there'd have to be 1019 00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,960 Speaker 2: some sort. Of Irregularity But jason stewart made the point 1020 00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:15,360 Speaker 2: off the air to me that the pitch had to 1021 00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,360 Speaker 2: be so bad because you have to make sure that 1022 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:21,279 Speaker 2: the batter doesn't even think, about swinging like usually like, it's, 1023 00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,920 Speaker 2: like okay, first pitch take you can put one over is, 1024 00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:27,920 Speaker 2: a fastball but you have to, leave everything like you 1025 00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,319 Speaker 2: can't leave anything. To chance so there's one pitch that 1026 00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:35,560 Speaker 2: was it was, a, ball definitely but the second one. 1027 00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,520 Speaker 3: Didn't make it fifty, feet, yeah right like one. 1028 00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:41,200 Speaker 2: Top ten feet away from The, plated yeah and that's. 1029 00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,920 Speaker 2: The game but he had that's and that's your first 1030 00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,040 Speaker 2: pitch of. The, Game yeah but he didn't get caught 1031 00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,160 Speaker 2: because it was a. Bad pitch he got caught because 1032 00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:50,840 Speaker 2: there was so much irregularity. On IT so i just 1033 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,680 Speaker 2: wonder if it's like everyone's just been ten bucks on. 1034 00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,920 Speaker 2: Their phone, oh yeah first pitch is, a ball and 1035 00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,480 Speaker 2: then somebody was like eight thousand dollars on a ball 1036 00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:00,239 Speaker 2: and that was how he. 1037 00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:01,200 Speaker 3: Got caught That's what i'm. 1038 00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,880 Speaker 5: Interested by oh That's pretty who have the find? That 1039 00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:05,359 Speaker 5: out i'll find. 1040 00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,560 Speaker 4: That Out The Home run derby is Scheduled, For monday, 1041 00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:09,239 Speaker 4: july fifteenth and now we have a. 1042 00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,279 Speaker 5: Third Participant It's National Star. 1043 00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,560 Speaker 4: James Wood Ronald thecunya Junior And cal rawley were the 1044 00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,480 Speaker 4: other two that have already been mentioned IN. The nfl 1045 00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:19,960 Speaker 4: steelers announced that they Signed Gm omar kontu a three 1046 00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:21,839 Speaker 4: year contract that's going to keep him with the team 1047 00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,360 Speaker 4: through at least the twenty twenty. Eight season IN, The 1048 00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,560 Speaker 4: nba Mavericks Assistant jared dudley is finalizing a deal to 1049 00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,359 Speaker 4: become the top assistant coach For The denver Nuggets Under. 1050 00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:34,920 Speaker 4: David addelman and death Taxes And joey chestnut Winning The 1051 00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:38,279 Speaker 4: Hotdog eating contest are the surest things going on in. 1052 00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,920 Speaker 4: The world and after missing last year because of that, 1053 00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:44,600 Speaker 4: sponsorship dispute he is going to compete in the twenty 1054 00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:48,880 Speaker 4: twenty five competition and he's an enormous favorite minus. Sixteen 1055 00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,040 Speaker 4: hundred like this is the one thing you can. Count 1056 00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,880 Speaker 4: on he's going to win His Seventeenth. Yellow belt back to, 1057 00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:54,959 Speaker 4: you guys can't wait. 1058 00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:58,880 Speaker 2: Till tomorrow it's one of. Those, traditions oh it's. SO 1059 00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,440 Speaker 2: magnificent i get what, You're saying aaron With The, luis 1060 00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:06,680 Speaker 2: ortiz but it is like anything of it's the irregularity 1061 00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:11,640 Speaker 2: that tips the investigators or the. Casinos off but even 1062 00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,239 Speaker 2: Like The malik. Beasley play have you seen this video 1063 00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:19,600 Speaker 2: Clip Of Gary payton? Junior circulating? Not yet so it's 1064 00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:25,280 Speaker 2: it's around so people are speculating That Maybe gary payton 1065 00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:31,360 Speaker 2: the second had some interest in a certain game because 1066 00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:33,840 Speaker 2: of what the spread was and how he was reacting 1067 00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,640 Speaker 2: on the bench to certain things in a game that 1068 00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:39,440 Speaker 2: was about like a twelve. Point spread so this is 1069 00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,000 Speaker 2: ALL over x a couple of, days ago and all 1070 00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:45,080 Speaker 2: over TikTok Of gary payton, being like oh, my gosh 1071 00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,960 Speaker 2: how did? You know because of fouls at, the END 1072 00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:52,640 Speaker 2: and i just that will always tip you off of 1073 00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:56,239 Speaker 2: the bets. Coming in that's how they're. Gonna know like 1074 00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,440 Speaker 2: you and me Watching That cardinals, guardians game would not 1075 00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:03,640 Speaker 2: have thought Anything Of. Luis ortiz we've just, been, like 1076 00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:07,120 Speaker 2: boy that. Was weird maybe now we'd, flippantly, GO gee 1077 00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:09,400 Speaker 2: i wonder if he's got something. On it but but, 1078 00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:13,440 Speaker 2: you're right like the the amount of bets or what 1079 00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:17,000 Speaker 2: was coming in for the number of wagers on that 1080 00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,400 Speaker 2: bet is what tips. People off but then when you, 1081 00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:21,960 Speaker 2: see it you're, just like oh, my gosh so this 1082 00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,359 Speaker 2: this is, The worst like how do you not? Hide 1083 00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,239 Speaker 2: it but it does have to go in that way, 1084 00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:28,520 Speaker 2: because otherwise if we just saw that, first bitch we 1085 00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:29,680 Speaker 2: wouldn't have the context of. 1086 00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:32,279 Speaker 3: The, Betting yeah i'm. 1087 00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,960 Speaker 1: JUST wondering i guess, it DOESN'T but i guess that. 1088 00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:39,799 Speaker 1: It does like does that trigger just a warning in 1089 00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:42,480 Speaker 1: the casual fan, of, like oh A major league baseball 1090 00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:45,279 Speaker 1: pitcher just bounced the first pitch of. 1091 00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,680 Speaker 3: THE game i, don't know just just talking out, loud HERE. 1092 00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,560 Speaker 2: Like i here's. My thing why do you why is? 1093 00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:52,120 Speaker 2: Everything BETABLE. 1094 00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,239 Speaker 3: Like i, You know i'll say this. Real. 1095 00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,719 Speaker 1: Quick No, martin weiss who hosts the show before Me, 1096 00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:02,160 Speaker 1: on saturdays made, this argument and as it Pertains To, 1097 00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,840 Speaker 1: Malik beasley, he's like maybe we're just offering too many things. 1098 00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,120 Speaker 3: To BET and i Know. That mark it was Actually. 1099 00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,239 Speaker 1: ON sunday i guess, it Was But mark willard, was, like, 1100 00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,400 Speaker 1: well yeah well they're not scaling back the things, to 1101 00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,239 Speaker 1: BET so i. 1102 00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:20,160 Speaker 2: Get. IT it i, just like that is something to. 1103 00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:25,440 Speaker 2: MESS with a points spread is and that takes some 1104 00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:29,600 Speaker 2: maneuvering to just throw a first pitch ball takes nothing, 1105 00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,880 Speaker 2: like it and it doesn't it doesn't necessarily affect. Your 1106 00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:37,400 Speaker 2: team it's so minute in the GAME that I just 1107 00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:41,719 Speaker 2: i don't think that it's, necessarily worth, you know having 1108 00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:45,160 Speaker 2: out there as. A bet, but hey to each. THEIR 1109 00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:47,520 Speaker 2: own i, don't know maybe too much is too much 1110 00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:49,640 Speaker 2: of one thing is. Never GOOD and i just think 1111 00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:52,760 Speaker 2: that a first pitch ball. Or strike Our Teammate jared 1112 00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:56,799 Speaker 2: smith always tweets about no run. First innings that's what he. 1113 00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:00,960 Speaker 2: Bets on but that's you have, more, opportunities right, three batters, 1114 00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:04,959 Speaker 2: you know possibly three outs. Each side all of those. 1115 00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:07,359 Speaker 2: Make sense but to do it on just one pitch 1116 00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:09,719 Speaker 2: that seems, to be, you know. Too minute, it's like, 1117 00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:13,560 Speaker 2: you know just on a make or misshot IN an. Nba, 1118 00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:15,759 Speaker 2: game anyway for, another day at, another time