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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off

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Speaker 2: right now. Definitely want to get some of your talkbacks

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Speaker 2: and your calls this hour. We usually do that of

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Speaker 2: course in the back half. So send in those talkbacks now,

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Speaker 2: and we want to reach the youth, and they are

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Speaker 2: on the YouTube. So we don't want to be a

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Speaker 2: couple of unks, a word that I have learned from

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Speaker 2: Clay's boys. We don't want to be unks. So we

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Speaker 2: are on YouTube, which is very important, so we can

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Speaker 2: have the twenties and the thirties year olds of America

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Speaker 2: listening in. So please go and subscribe and tell your

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Speaker 2: kids or your grandkids that that's where they can find us.

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Speaker 2: This is where the cool kids hang these days, and

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Speaker 2: that's where we can Yes, you look like.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm just kind of laughing along because I was

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Speaker 3: at Super Bowl Week and I was out to dinner

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Speaker 3: with people who are in their thirties and consider themselves

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Speaker 3: to be sort of, you know, with it in the

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Speaker 3: social universe. And I was naming a couple of people

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Speaker 3: that my boys are paying attention to now online, my

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Speaker 3: teenage boys, and they had never heard of them, And

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Speaker 3: now those people are they're like questioning everything.

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Speaker 1: So it's just funny.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what age you become aware that you're

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Speaker 3: not really aware of what young people are doing. Using

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Speaker 3: the phrase young people is probably one sign of that.

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Speaker 3: But I watched the Grammys, like I popped it on.

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Speaker 3: I don't know any of these people.

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Speaker 1: Like you know, the almost.

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Speaker 3: The entire arena of current music stars, I have almost

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Speaker 3: no idea who any of them are, and even increasingly

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Speaker 3: the social media world, I don't know any I mean

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Speaker 3: the TikTok stars, like all these people, we don't have

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Speaker 3: the same recognition of fame as in the past.

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Speaker 1: I actually think it's kind of interesting.

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Speaker 3: Every world sort of universe has its own super famous people,

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Speaker 3: but they don't cross over in the same way that

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Speaker 3: they did in the eighties and nineties when we had

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Speaker 3: global superstars in United States superstars, everybody knew. We have

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Speaker 3: a lot of islands of fame now and those islands

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Speaker 3: of fame may not cross over at all, which is

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Speaker 3: why we want you to subscribe to us on YouTube,

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Speaker 3: because we're trying to reach people who frankly have no

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Speaker 3: idea what exist, because our arguments are good.

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Speaker 2: This is actually reminding me of how my first year

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Speaker 2: in Miami there was absolute gridlock and I lived down

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Speaker 2: I lived in actual Miami, not Miami Beach at the time,

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Speaker 2: and there's that total gridlock and my Uber driver we

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Speaker 2: couldn't go. I mean, it was just you could tell.

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Speaker 2: It was like I was like, as the president, here,

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Speaker 2: what is going on? I mean, you couldn't get anywhere

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Speaker 2: into in Miami. And he goes, it's a Bad Bunny concert.

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Speaker 2: And I'm telling you, it was the first time I

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Speaker 2: had ever heard of this. And I told him, I said,

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Speaker 2: who is Bad Bunny?

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Speaker 1: And he was.

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Speaker 2: He was a young Latin American fellow and he was

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Speaker 2: absolutely could not believe that I did not know who

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Speaker 2: Bad Bunny was. It was like it was the craziest

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Speaker 2: thing he had ever heard. It was like I was

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Speaker 2: a space martian who landed on Earth and he was

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Speaker 2: like poking and prodding me.

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Speaker 1: He's like, you don't know Bad Bunny. I was like,

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Speaker 1: I do not know better.

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Speaker 3: I watched Happy Gilmore Too, Bad Bunny is in that movie.

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Speaker 3: I had no idea who he was, Like, he's the

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Speaker 3: caddie in Happy Gilmore Too. There's a lot of famous

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Speaker 3: celebrities who have different roles. Until the movie was over,

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Speaker 3: I had never heard of him, and I had no

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Speaker 3: is this guy who's not a very good actor that

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Speaker 1: This guy was.

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Speaker 2: I also think that fame and celebrity status because of

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Speaker 2: social media. First of all, the then this is a

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Speaker 2: the era of like paparazzi as this thing you know,

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Speaker 2: photos themselves now all the time for free publicly, especially celebrities.

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Speaker 2: So this idea that like you, oh, we need to

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Speaker 2: or sees everyone all the time, and so that's a

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Speaker 2: big change. But also now you know if someone if

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Speaker 2: you're not famous in the worlds in which they inhabit,

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Speaker 2: Clay to to your point, you don't really count like

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Speaker 2: there are people. I saw one of the longest lines

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Speaker 2: Flat Iron district of Manhattan, and I'll never forget this

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Speaker 2: went on for there were so many people in line

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Speaker 2: Clay that they had to be separated for traffic, and

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Speaker 2: so they had people like ushering people across the street

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Speaker 2: because the line went for so long. I mean, they

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Speaker 2: just and they couldn't just block off the whole sidewalk

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Speaker 2: it was for a YouTuber who did makeup tutorials. It

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Speaker 2: was also, by the way, all like eighteen year old

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Speaker 2: girls basically in this line. But it was a YouTuber

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Speaker 2: who did makeup tutorials, who has millions and millions and

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Speaker 1: I'd never heard of this person before. So your point.

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Speaker 2: About there is a there's just different channels now and

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Speaker 2: people's existed. You can be super famous in one context

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Speaker 2: and no one has any idea who you are. Your

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Speaker 2: YouTube example, this was the first time I realized how

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Speaker 2: big YouTube was getting. I don't go to the mall

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Speaker 2: like a Christmas last minute shopping trip, and they had

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Speaker 3: And the entire mall was swarmed with kids such that

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Speaker 3: no idea who any of these people that they were

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Speaker 3: clamoring to see. I'll give you an example, because again

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Speaker 3: I have my own kids. I played in that celebrity

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Speaker 3: poker match with Ted Cruz, Doyle Brunson UH with UH

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Speaker 3: and mister Beast was like the most famous person you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the oh and mister Beast.

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Speaker 3: I had really didn't know him at all, and now

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Speaker 3: known now than he was like four or five years

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Speaker 3: if you were eight to twelve, about five years ago,

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Speaker 3: those kids have gotten older. But I had no idea

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Speaker 3: we have created a world where cultures don't overlap all

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Speaker 3: Kamla got caught flat foot on this because she thought

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Speaker 3: traditional celebrities endorsing her were going to make a difference.

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Speaker 3: And Trump recognized the rise of the online ecosystem in

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Speaker 3: a way that she did not. And I do think

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Speaker 3: those guys that have young male audiences are uniquely influential

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Speaker 3: in a way that I don't know. Queen Latifah and

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Speaker 3: Beyonce are not those young male audiences online. They're more

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Speaker 2: I had a buddy down here who went on a

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Speaker 2: told me, and I had never heard of this person before,

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Speaker 2: and this woman had sixty million Instagram followers.

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Speaker 1: Play sixty million. Yeah, that's unbelievable. And I was like,

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Speaker 1: that's a lot.

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Speaker 2: That's gonna if you're if you're in conservative media and

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Speaker 2: you have seven figures of Instagram followers, that's pretty unusual.

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Speaker 2: I mean there's some you know. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 2: Megan Kelly has millions than Ben Shapiro. I mean, there

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Speaker 2: they don't have sixty million that I could tell you.

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Speaker 2: So the point is here the world, what is fame

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Speaker 2: and what is notoriety and all these things, it has

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Speaker 2: changed dramatically. Okay, that was a bit of a digression.

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Speaker 2: Let's dive into something else. Well, this ties into the

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Speaker 2: fame thing a bit because a lot of you have

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Speaker 2: been pointing out that the Nancy Guthrie story is getting

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Speaker 2: a hugely disproportioned amount of attention because she has a

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Speaker 1: That is just true.

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Speaker 2: That said, we want Nancy Guthrie to be returned home

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Speaker 2: safe and sound, and we want the FBI to be

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Speaker 2: able to bring this to the swiftest possible conclusion. Caroline

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Speaker 2: levin the White House, this is cut three. She spoke

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Speaker 4: I mean, everyone, thank you, thank you for coming today.

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Speaker 4: I apologize for the delay. I was once again with

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Speaker 4: the President. He and I were both reviewing the newly

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Speaker 4: on just this heartbreaking situation with respect to her mother.

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Speaker 4: And once again I will reiterate that the prayers of

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Speaker 1: There were I mean, that's where this is right now. Clay.

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Speaker 2: They they had a person of interest that they talked to,

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Speaker 2: and it's quite clear this is not somebody who was

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Speaker 1: Uh, And you know everything is.

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Speaker 2: But I was just thinking about this when the story

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Speaker 2: is breaking last night, when there's so much attention on

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Speaker 2: a case like this, as there is a national, big

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Speaker 2: national story. It's leading a lot of news broadcasts right

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Speaker 2: you imagine you're you're the like the Uber eats driver

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Speaker 2: who was just geolocated to be in the vicinity when

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Speaker 2: this happened, and the FBI team and the Windbreakers and

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Speaker 2: everything show up at your door. That's gotta be and

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Speaker 2: you know you have nothing to do with like, but

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Speaker 2: that's got to be a heck of a moment.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I will say it's a positive that they've been

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Speaker 3: able to geolocate some people, and I guess they probably

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Speaker 3: match him with the information that they have of who

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Speaker 3: was on the front porch. This is also, however, a

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Speaker 3: sign of how obsessively the media is covering this, that

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Speaker 3: we know every intricate minute, pickyun detail of this investigation

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Speaker 3: that's going on, such.

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Speaker 1: That I mean they interviewed last night.

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Speaker 3: Before I was going to bed, I saw some of

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Speaker 3: this stuff happening on social media. Oh they've detained someone.

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Speaker 3: Maybe there's a person of interest. I put it on.

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Speaker 3: And then shortly thereafter CNN's interview in the guy's mom

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of cops, I don't know, we

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's accurate, But.

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00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:25,400
Speaker 3: What he was convicted for was sleeping with a seventeen

438
00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:30,439
Speaker 3: and a half year old, as Alan Dershowitz came on

439
00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:34,120
Speaker 3: and talked about on this program. So are you supposed

440
00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,639
Speaker 3: to have no contact with him whatsoever at that point

441
00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,880
Speaker 3: in time. I just look at this and it feels

442
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 3: like there is a total witch hunt. Everybody's name who's

443
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:49,800
Speaker 3: in the Epstein relationship. Now, look, I got no relationship

444
00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,080
Speaker 3: with Epstein. Bucks got no relationship with Epstein.

445
00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:53,960
Speaker 2: And every time there's a drop, at least you and

446
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:55,800
Speaker 2: I could see her and be like, yeah, we're not

447
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:56,600
Speaker 2: in those files.

448
00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:57,680
Speaker 1: We're not in the files.

449
00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:01,720
Speaker 2: Like, by the way, could I just say I'm not casting? Well,

450
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 2: maybe I am. There are some people in right wing

451
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 2: media who very much on in the files. So it's

452
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,040
Speaker 2: not like it's not like everyone that you think that

453
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 2: you listen to on podcast or radio whatever, is not

454
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:12,200
Speaker 2: in the files.

455
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:12,840
Speaker 1: Some of them are.

456
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,200
Speaker 2: But Clay and I not in the files, not once,

457
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:16,920
Speaker 2: no interaction with them at all.

458
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 3: And this is again me coming from a legal perspective,

459
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,239
Speaker 3: and I understand a lot of times lawyers, if you're

460
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,680
Speaker 3: at least a decent lawyer, you try to solve problems.

461
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,359
Speaker 3: So if the problem here is that there are still

462
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 3: men who committed crimes that have not been held accountable

463
00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 3: for them, the victims should name them. What am I missing?

464
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,240
Speaker 3: I tweeted this out a little bit ago. People said, well,

465
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,200
Speaker 3: they signed nondisclosure agreements.

466
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,560
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. The Epstein estate is not.

467
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 3: Suing victims for naming people that sexually assaulted or raped them. Okay,

468
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,920
Speaker 3: they're not doing that. That is my direct legal representation.

469
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:54,919
Speaker 3: And you say, well, a lot of them don't want

470
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 3: to go public. Okay, but a lot of them do.

471
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,320
Speaker 3: Because every time I look up on television and they're

472
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 3: having another Epstein victim press conference where many of these

473
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,199
Speaker 3: women are stepping out and sueing, I mean talking, and

474
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 3: they keep saying, well, we want people prosecuted, We want

475
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 3: people prosecuted. You are the victims. If people committed crimes,

476
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 3: you are the victims. You have to bring the victimization

477
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,680
Speaker 3: to light and name your victimizers.

478
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 1: Fuck what am I missing here? By the way, open

479
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,239
Speaker 1: phone lines eight hundred and two two two eight A two.

480
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 3: We got millions of emails out there. People are getting

481
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,880
Speaker 3: dragged through the mud, some of them for doing nothing

482
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 3: other than having business relationships. Like, I don't know what

483
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 3: people expect to find at this point. And so again

484
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,879
Speaker 3: the women who settled and said they were victims. If

485
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 3: there's other men that you believe victimized, you sue them,

486
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:49,640
Speaker 3: name them.

487
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 1: It is all self evident to me.

488
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 2: This takes me to the beginning of this, which was

489
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,879
Speaker 2: handled poorly by the DOJ and the FBI from a

490
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 2: just public relation perspective. But we told you, I said this,

491
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 2: I said this all along. There's not You're not going

492
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 2: to find smoking gun criminality in the released files because

493
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,880
Speaker 2: then they would be saying then everyone would say, why

494
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 2: haven't you charged these individuals?

495
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 1: Right?

496
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 2: So so there, I think that there was some expectation

497
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 2: that when the release happened, all of a sudden, we

498
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,360
Speaker 2: would know who the criminals were. No, the dj has

499
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 2: had these there's no way that they're going to have

500
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 2: things that prove or at least allege criminality.

501
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:27,639
Speaker 1: Uh.

502
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,479
Speaker 2: And they took no action on that. I mean that

503
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 2: that's just unrealistic. Right, So this is why it's the

504
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 2: same thing also about to tell you with the JFK files,

505
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 2: people are like the JFK files, when they're released, we're

506
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 2: going to know, I promise you, you're not going to know.

507
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 2: You might get some you might be more breadcrumbs and

508
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,399
Speaker 2: there could be more people doing conspiracy theory podcasts and

509
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 2: stuff about it. Fine, but there's not. Oh my gosh,

510
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 2: it was this guy or he was doing this that

511
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 2: that's not how this works.

512
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 1: So I don't argue with me.

513
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 3: I mean the press conference, it just feels like we're

514
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 3: going down constant rabbit holes and people are expecting that

515
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 3: there's gonna be some resolution here. The only way I

516
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 3: go to the essence of it, the only way that

517
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 3: there could be additional criminal charges brought is if people

518
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 3: who say they are victims share what they say they

519
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 3: were victimized doing, who did it to them, and then

520
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 3: there's an investigation. Oftentimes civil lawsuits for people out there

521
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 3: that are not lawyers, civil lawsuits lead to criminal charges.

522
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,399
Speaker 3: I mean, the way that Diddy, for instance, ended up

523
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 3: in prison was because what was the woman's name who

524
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 3: that filed, you know, Cassie? I think again, I'm it

525
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 3: was like his ex girlfriend. I think it was a woman,

526
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 3: a singer named Cassie, if I'm not mistaken. She filed

527
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 3: a blockbuster lawsuit accusing Diddy of a variety of sexual crimes,

528
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,119
Speaker 3: and that's how they ended up charging him with with

529
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 3: with actual crimes.

530
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 1: But it was a civil lawsuit.

531
00:25:56,119 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 3: She was seeking monetary damages because individual obviously can't bring criminal.

532
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 1: Charges, so what's going on here.

533
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 3: I just if there are going to be charges brought

534
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 3: on other individuals, then the alleged victims are going to

535
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 3: have to speak out. And if that doesn't happen, it's

536
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 3: just a one big distraction. We should mention. By the way,

537
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 3: in the files, President Trump in two thousand and six,

538
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 3: according to I believe it was an FBI agent actually

539
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 3: reached out to police and said thank you for doing

540
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 3: something here. And I'm paraphrasing. We all knew that he

541
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 3: was a monster and that he was behaving inappropriately, So for.

542
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Speaker 2: People ivan Trump, also the guy who kicked Jeffrey Epstein

543
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 2: out ofmar A Lago. Trump, the guy who, now we

544
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 2: find out, was thanking the police for taking action on him,

545
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 2: and the guy who the Democrat media has been desperate

546
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 2: to try to dirty up with this thing the whole time.

547
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 1: Not only is he not dirty.

548
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 2: And I've known this just because I also known Trump,

549
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 2: I know his family, you know Trump. You know, it's

550
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,200
Speaker 2: like he's just he wasn't doing any of this, any

551
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 2: of this criminal stuff.

552
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:01,880
Speaker 1: He just wasn't.

553
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 2: It's very obvious there's no evidence whatsoever, there's no indication whatsoever,

554
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 2: And he actually was a guy who was grossed out

555
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 2: by Epstein just by his beat, but to be clear,

556
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 2: just by the fact that he was like sleezy and

557
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,360
Speaker 2: slimy at parties. Yes, it's not that he even knew

558
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 2: about the you know, the underage stuff or the human

559
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 2: trafficking or any of that. Trump was just like, this

560
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 2: guy's a scumbag, and you know, there's no credit giving this.

561
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 2: And I'll Clay, I'll tell you one thing. Sometimes I'll

562
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 2: tweet out something random about you know, oh like look

563
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 2: at this Trump policy. It's great, and maniacs will swarm

564
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 2: and be like you're standing up for the pedophile. I'm like,

565
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 2: these people are lunatics. They're delusional. Okay, did Trump did

566
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 2: nothing wrong on this one? And they cannot like Trump's

567
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 2: policies that make the economy boom.

568
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 1: They have that right as Americans.

569
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 2: But to call somebody like a sex criminal because you

570
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 2: don't like their politics is really tells you more about

571
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 2: the person making the accusation than it does about the

572
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 2: person who's done nothing wrong.

573
00:27:54,920 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 3: Also, all of that I sign off on. Also, we said,

574
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 3: and again this is something we're going to be proven.

575
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 3: I think one hundred percent right about I didn't even

576
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 3: need to know what was in the Epstein files to

577
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 3: know there was no criminal suggestions of Trump behavior of

578
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 3: a criminal nature because they tried to bankrupt and imprison

579
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 3: Trump for the rest of his life based on paying

580
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 3: one hundred thousand dollars to Stormy Daniels. And you think

581
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:27,120
Speaker 3: Democrats during Joe Biden's administration set on evidence that would

582
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 3: have led to criminal charges for Trump relating to Epstein,

583
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 3: I mean, come on, that just doesn't pass the smell test.

584
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,199
Speaker 3: And oh, by the way, if you really want to

585
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 3: dive into the interactions Jeffrey Epstein had with famous and

586
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 3: prominent people, overwhelmingly those people tended to be Democrats. So

587
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 3: if you really, if you want to make it a

588
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 3: Democrat Republican issue on the Epstein files, there's far more

589
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 3: left leaning Democrat supporters interacting on a regular basis with

590
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 3: Jeffrey Epstein than there are people.

591
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 1: On the right.

592
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 3: So look, I think the story is kind of done

593
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 3: every time, Producer Ali, is it fair to say, I mean,

594
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 3: I'm speaking about it right now because Pam Bondi testified

595
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 3: on Capitol Hill about them, and there continues to be

596
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 3: uh stories out there. Is it fair to say that

597
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 3: in this audience, even the diehard Epstein people have largely

598
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 3: like just come to recognize that the story is what.

599
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 2: It is, or they still jump in here. Ali, you

600
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 2: can tell us, But I don't think so. I think

601
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 2: people are still very uh, very bothered and feel like

602
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 2: there's a lot that they don't know.

603
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: I think there is a segment that is very much

604
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 1: still cares about.

605
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 3: This, Like five or ten percent of this audience is

606
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 3: still obsessed with Epstein.

607
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: I'd say a little bit more than that.

608
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't see it as much as I used to,

609
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 3: like in the immediate when Pam Bondy, when the so

610
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 3: I thought I saw it really blow up.

611
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: Hold on, they did bojos. You agreed, they did.

612
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 2: Yes in the early days, the and stuff, and so

613
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 2: everyone who was upset about that and whatever every right

614
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 2: to be. It was bozo stuff, and you know, but

615
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 2: then getting mad like I didn't give people a bunch

616
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 2: of binders, like I don't know what they wanted me.

617
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 3: Well, they said it was the most poorly handled part

618
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 3: of Trump two point zero. They gave people binders. And

619
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 3: then Pam Bondi said she had the files on her desk,

620
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 3: and then they put out an email like like right

621
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 3: before July fourth, if I remember correctly, and they were like, oh, actually,

622
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 3: there's no more charges coming. There's nobody to be prosecuted

623
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 3: in the Epstein files. And people lost their minds over

624
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 3: that because it was a mishandled story. But now that

625
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 3: all the emails are out, now that all the interactions

626
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 3: are out, by and large, I just come back around

627
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 3: to again go to the people who are the victims.

628
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 3: This is the people who were paid out by the

629
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 3: Epstein State over one hundred million dollars. Tell us who

630
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 3: victimized you. You have the ability to actually tell us

631
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 3: who committed the crimes. If you're not going to do that,

632
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 3: then I don't know what you're expecting to come out

633
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 3: of the files themselves. If you were victimized, speak out.

634
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: And they're not.

635
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 3: And so the only excuse I've seen is, well, we

636
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 3: signed non disclosure agreements with as part of the payouts

637
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 3: that we got.

638
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 2: Didn't Elon say that he would pay the legal bills

639
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 2: of did he?

640
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: Didn't he share this? I think he may. I think

641
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 1: he may be right about that. But let me tell

642
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 1: you this.

643
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 2: I think he said he would pay any of the

644
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 2: legal bills of anyone who came forward and you know,

645
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 2: was like, a I think that's what it was, guys,

646
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 2: And so look, let me tell let me tell you this.

647
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 3: The Epstein estate is not suing a single person for

648
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 3: violating the non disclosure agreements. I would put my legal

649
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 3: degree on the line over that they're not suing anybody.

650
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 2: So I don't believe that that is the actual excuse. Also,

651
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 2: by the way, a judge would throw out any NDA

652
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 2: that was being used to cover up criminal direct criminal.

653
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 2: A judge would be like, yeah, no, that NDA is no, no,

654
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 2: no good, just like the same way that you know,

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Speaker 2: there are plenty of things that you can sign and

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Speaker 2: that don't Actually you can't sign yourself into perpetual servitude

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Speaker 2: or slavery in this country. Like that's not a thing

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Speaker 2: you can do. There's no contract that would be upheld

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Speaker 2: with that.

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Speaker 3: By the way, the NDA the person that you're accusing,

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Speaker 3: if it's not Epstein, the NDA cannot protect a third party, right.

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Speaker 3: So anyway, it's people who are buying that argument, because

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Speaker 3: some people don't in my mentions, they're like, well they

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Speaker 3: have NDAs, that doesn't apply.

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Speaker 1: Tell us who assaulted you?

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Speaker 3: Instead of making Pambondi testify and instead of I haven't.

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Speaker 2: Seen reason, Clay, why what you're saying does not hold

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Speaker 2: And all the other stuff is sort of uh distraction or.

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Speaker 1: Or or delusion. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Yes, if if you were victimized by someone not Epstein

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Speaker 2: who is dead, Okay, I'm sure if these women were

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Speaker 2: victimized by Epstein, then they got paid by the Epstein estate.

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Speaker 2: But if somebody Epstein victimized you, tell everybody, yes, we will, Like.

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Speaker 1: We the American people, we'll back you up.

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Speaker 2: Yes, tell everybody the truth, which you.

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Speaker 3: Get your time in court to prove that this is true.

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Speaker 3: Why Again, that's the essence. If you want more people prosecuted,

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Speaker 3: we know who the victims are, allegedly because they accepted

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Speaker 3: the payments from the Epstein estate. Tell us who else

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Speaker 3: victimized you? They have the story here. It's not going

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Speaker 3: by someone other than yourself.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna be talking to our friend Alex Bearnson here,

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Speaker 2: who is still should be known as really the hero

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Speaker 2: of the COVID madness resistance, and so I will always

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Speaker 2: hold him in a esteem for that, but also has

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Speaker 2: a lot of great work on his substack. He does

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Speaker 2: what I think people would call actual journalism, like digging

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Speaker 2: into things and finding truths and unreported truths as a substack,

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Speaker 2: so pretty clear branding on that. But he'll talk to

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Speaker 2: us about marijuana, and like we were saying before, I

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Speaker 2: think that weed they one in here where a lot

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Speaker 2: of us, even on the right, who have a sort

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Speaker 2: of more maybe some libertarian leanings on this stuff. Even

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Speaker 2: the New York Times is now admitting that now they

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Speaker 2: want to tax the you know what out of it,

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Speaker 2: and they want to find ways to just regulate this more.

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Speaker 1: They don't want to ban it. But Clay, it has been.

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Speaker 2: A pretty pretty The negatives are far more prominent than

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Speaker 2: we were told, and the positives are far more limited

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Speaker 2: than we were told. That's really I think what this

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Speaker 2: comes down to. It feels a little bit like Reagan's

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Speaker 2: nineteen eighty six amnesty.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, look it. Here's the way I would put it.

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Speaker 3: If you told me right now, hey, Clay, your kids

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Speaker 3: are never going to drink alcohol and they're never going

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Speaker 3: to smoke anything. I would be like, sign me up, right,

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Speaker 3: sign me up. If you told me your kids can

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Speaker 3: drink alcohol or they can smoke weed, I would prefer

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Speaker 3: my kids drink alcohol. And I don't think I would

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Speaker 3: have said that Buck ten years ago. I think I

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Speaker 3: would have thought, well, weed is actually far more less

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Speaker 3: of an issue than let's jump into this real quick,

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Speaker 3: because Alex, we can have heard this is a talkback

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Speaker 3: from William, one of our Houston listeners.

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Speaker 6: This is d hit it they playing book, listen to

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Speaker 6: your show every day. You guys are totally apt to

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Speaker 6: launch on cannabis. The fact that cannabis use is increasing

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Speaker 6: and it is more than alcoholism really good thing because

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Speaker 6: it's probably a thousand times less toxic, one hundred times

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Speaker 6: less harmful overall to health and everything else. So moderate

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Speaker 6: responsible use of cannabis and adults not a bad thing

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Speaker 6: at all. You guys are way way behind the times.

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Speaker 1: Need to wake up.

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Speaker 2: I respectfully disagree top to bottom. I think it's really

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Speaker 2: bad and a really bad idea, and we're going to

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Speaker 2: get into that with Alex here a second.

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Speaker 1: But William, to be clear.

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Speaker 2: Respect you respect you call it in respect your opinion

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Speaker 2: on this, because I know a lot of other people

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Speaker 2: share that. But let's get into some facts play, Let's

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Speaker 2: get into some data and the realities of very widespread

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Speaker 2: cannabis use in America today

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Speaker 3: No doubt, Alex bahar And said next,