1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the Best of the Odd Couple podcasts. 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Be sure to check us out live every weekday from 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: four to seven pm Pacific seven to ten pm Eastern 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for The 5 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: Odd Couple on Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream 6 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,639 Speaker 1: us every day on the iHeartRadio by searching FSR. 7 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 2: You're listening to the Best of the Odd Couple. 8 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 3: Just before the show started, the Lakers lost a very 9 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 3: key member of their team last year. Three and DP 10 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 3: player Dorian Phinney Smith left the Lakers to take a 11 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 3: four year deal with the Houston Rockets. Might not seem 12 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 3: like a big. 13 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 4: Deal to the news of the day unless you're a. 14 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 3: Big Laker fan like we are. But one of the 15 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 3: reasons why that happened, Lisa Gordon Rob Parker is because 16 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 3: Lebron James that you know what, I know, I'm about 17 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 3: to be forty one years old, but I got a 18 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 3: fifty two million dollar player options stare at me in 19 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 3: the face. I'm gonna go ahead and pick that up. 20 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 3: And then after I pick it up, I'm gonna put 21 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 3: out a statement from my agent to ESPN saying I 22 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 3: want to be for a championship and the Lakers are 23 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 3: building for the future. I understand that, but I value 24 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 3: a realistic chance of winning it all, making it seem 25 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 3: like he's gonna decide on his future in Los Angeles 26 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 3: depending on how the rest of this free agency thing goes. 27 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 3: And losing DFS not a good start. They did pivot though, 28 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 3: and signed Jake Laravia. I know you guys are big 29 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 3: fans of his. 30 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 5: Well, oh yeah, I saw the movie Jake Lawrence of Arabia. No, 31 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 5: that's about as good as it gets. I mean, I 32 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 5: don't know about that. Here's my point, and I'm just 33 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 5: gonna say that. 34 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 4: You walk in here right now, I'll be like, hey, 35 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 4: how you doing. 36 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 5: Lebron makes no sense? None of it makes sense, Kelvin. 37 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 5: When you're gonna be forty one and you've played twenty 38 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 5: years in the NBA, there's only one reason you're playing, right, 39 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 5: to try to win a championship. Last year you got Luca. 40 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 5: Everybody went to ran to the mat for you. Oh yeah, 41 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 5: I don't see any being out west that scares me. 42 00:01:58,320 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 4: Luca Lebron. 43 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 5: I take them many and they got knocked out in 44 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 5: first round, right, Okay, So to take all the money 45 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 5: that you can I'm against players giving money back rob 46 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 5: G for years, Kevin, you know I'm not into that. 47 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 4: For years. 48 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 5: I've said I would never give any money back for years. 49 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 4: But when it. 50 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 5: Comes to Lebron and his unique situation, he's the one 51 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 5: where the money that you're not playing all these years 52 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 5: just to play out the string, so you need help, 53 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 5: you need other players. It doesn't make sense to me 54 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 5: at all why you would need to pick up all 55 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 5: that money when you need other pieces and you saw 56 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 5: what happened last postseason. Do you want to play twenty 57 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 5: three years and only win four championship? Like the longer 58 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 5: you play we talked about this, the worse it looks 59 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 5: because there ain't nothing special about four championships in twenty 60 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 5: three I don't care how many times you win. Four 61 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 5: championships in twenty three years is not that impressive. So 62 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 5: I think he's made a big mistake. It doesn't sound 63 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 5: like he's really trying to win to me, because I 64 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 5: would be working closely with the Lakers. What do you 65 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 5: need from me in order for us to get another piece? 66 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 5: And you know what I mean, and really trying to 67 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 5: work to get this out all the other players. No, 68 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 5: let them figure it out. But Lebron in his situation, 69 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 5: his age, is no way in the world. He should 70 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 5: just be taking the most money. That's going to hinder 71 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 5: the organization. 72 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: I think Lebron is lebroning, and I think the Lakers 73 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: are lakering. You have two organizations, which I do believe 74 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: is going to be changing now in the new ownership. 75 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: But Lebron is doing what Lebron does. Lebron is going 76 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: to protect Lebron. He's gonna look out for Lebron. I 77 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: think he took his haircut when he went to college 78 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: also known as Miami Heat University, and I think that 79 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: was his one time where he said, all right, d way, 80 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: you taking one too, all right? 81 00:03:58,120 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 4: Cool? 82 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: See boss, you're gonna take one too, all right. Everybody 83 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: put their hands in, say haircut on three one two three, haircut, 84 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: and they all took a haircut. And I think since 85 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: then he said, nah, everything I went through, everyone enduring, 86 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: I'm not doing and I know what I mean to 87 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: this league and I'm not doing. 88 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 4: Does it hinder him? Yes? 89 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: Could we be looking at the last, you know, four 90 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: years of his career if you already include a couple 91 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: of years and maybe the next couple of years similar 92 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: to Kobe. Maybe it won't be injury wise because Ken, 93 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: because Kobe was all battered down, beat down, injured. 94 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 4: We knew that. 95 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: But remember Kobe wasn't taking no haircut either, and I 96 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: think they just realized. I think those caliber players are like, nah. 97 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 5: Kobe wasn't trying to get catch Michael Jordan, like like, 98 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 5: that's that's where Lebron is. 99 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 1: And I get, But Kobe, thanks, But you know the 100 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: thing always told you Rob, And I truly believe I 101 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: think he knows. For those who say Lebron's to go, 102 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 1: he's to go. And I think those who say nah, 103 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: he never, he won't be. So I don't think it matters. 104 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: Is more like he can't if he wins five, he 105 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: doesn't get Jordan, what is he playing for? So I 106 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 1: think he wants a great question. I think he absolutely 107 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: wants the money. I think he absolutely wants to still 108 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 1: just relevant be around. I truly believe he wants to 109 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: try to play with Bryce. Maybe not with the Lakers, 110 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: maybe it's with Cleveland. The ceremonial year with Cleveland. I 111 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 1: think he wants Bryce in the NBA, which is very likely. Uh, 112 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: whether he's a you know, second round, sixtieth pick, whatever, 113 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 1: But I think it's likely. 114 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 4: Uh. 115 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: And I think he's like, hey, if a championship happens, 116 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 1: by happen, stance not great. But this is what he's done. 117 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 1: And this is what the Lakers do. You put in 118 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 1: some sweat equity with us, You be there for us, 119 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 1: you want us a ring you are, we are indebted 120 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 1: to you. This is what they've done. You know, you 121 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 1: and I have talked about they keep the rambuses around. Uh, 122 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: they keep people. Kobe was different Kobe. I'm not arguing. 123 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 5: They got with a shock. I mean like, like, let's 124 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:38,919 Speaker 5: not act. 125 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: Like but they drafted this when you draft his son. No. 126 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 4: But but but my point is. 127 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 5: He's not. Kobe was a Laker, you know what I 128 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 5: mean from they want to put it twenty years. So 129 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 5: they did that. They didn't make the playoffs his last 130 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 5: five years whatever. They game all the money. It was 131 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 5: bad business, it really was. But they felt like Kobe 132 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 5: was and that's. 133 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 4: What they do. 134 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: They keep their head coaches or Byron Scott like, they 135 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: bring people in the Laker world. Magic is in it 136 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: just out. Magic is in, magic is out. This is 137 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: kind of what the Lakers do but this makes no. 138 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 4: Sense for Lebron. 139 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 5: I'm that serious, like to have two years where you, 140 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 5: especially if you don't do anything with Luca, you think 141 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 5: that looks good on his resume that you had Luca 142 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 5: five times First Team All NBA and you're not. 143 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: There's some couple of years with AD that's like, all right, 144 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 1: y'all should have but they couldn't even go to the finals. 145 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,119 Speaker 1: Maybe don't win it, but you go or at least 146 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 1: not or at least get in the playoffs without the 147 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: playing like and he had some of those years with 148 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: AD two where you would be like, all right, I'm 149 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: not saying y'all had to beat everybody losing the first 150 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: round or only get to the second round. 151 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 4: Yeah. 152 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 1: So I just think Lebron is trying at this point 153 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: dictate everything. I'm gonna get all the money. I'm gonna 154 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 1: put the pressure on y'all money. I'm already gonna put 155 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: the already got my out. My out is we ain't 156 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: have enough. Then I go to play with Cleveland for 157 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: a ceremony a year he ain't going or you know 158 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: wherever the Knicks for finally one year whatever it is, 159 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: and then and then he rides off to the sunset. 160 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: So I think he has it set up where he 161 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: can only win from it. We win a ring, great, 162 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: we lose, we ain't have enough. I don't know that's 163 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: how he's trying to play it, position it well. 164 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 5: But that that don't make any sense to me because 165 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 5: then your agent comes out talking about trying to win 166 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 5: like like they are. 167 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 4: We're gonna monitor. 168 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 5: What they couldn't even does Lebron right? 169 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 4: Does Lebron really? Dude? I'm not. 170 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 5: I'm the first one. I don't believe anybody should give 171 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 5: money back. But in his situation where what he's doing, 172 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 5: the reason he's still playing, there's nothing to play for. 173 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 5: He's the all time leading scorer, Like, there's nothing to 174 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 5: play for. 175 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 4: If he claims rings don't. 176 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 5: Matter, right, and he's done is his career and he's 177 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 5: great and the people think he's good, what what is 178 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 5: left to be honest? Okay, you play with your son, 179 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 5: he's trying to play with both of them, rupp, Well, 180 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 5: that's gonna happen. It the ain't gonna be here. 181 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 4: No, No, I agree. I'm not saying that because maybe ownership. 182 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 5: Is going to be in with that. I don't. I 183 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 5: don't believe that I don't think the Lakers are bigger 184 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 5: than that. You did it, you know, and I just 185 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 5: can't see them if Lebron and Luca and they're not winning, 186 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 5: you know what I mean? 187 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: And the gist Mark Waters and his new ownership ain't 188 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: doing that. But he absolutely trying to play a Brice. Absolutely, 189 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: he's gonna play a Brice and called a career absolutely. 190 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 5: Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven 191 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 5: nine nine six sixty three sixty nine. It's simple. If 192 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 5: Lebron is serious about winning a championship, why didn't he 193 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 5: take a Bay Cup. We'll continue that conversation next with you. 194 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 5: Are you with Kelvin, He's just he wants the money 195 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 5: and he doesn't feel like he wants to win or 196 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 5: I'm just thinking it's just selfish. He should be trying 197 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 5: at all costs to give himself a chance to win 198 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 5: if you're going to play. 199 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: And that makes what end? I'm with you, But Rob, 200 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: he is saying, I'm Lebron. I don't take haircuts. I'm 201 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: worth it. Look what I've done for you, look it 202 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: up down the league. I'm getting my fifty two meal. 203 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,839 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 204 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 205 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 2: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 206 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 2: listen live. 207 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 6: Hey, it's Ben, host of The Fifth Hour with Ben 208 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,319 Speaker 6: Maller along with my trustee sidekick David Gascon with mean 209 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 6: a lot to have you join us on our weekly 210 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 6: auditory journey. You're asking what in God's name is the 211 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 6: Fifth Hour? 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This has been the 221 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:54,439 Speaker 3: off season of activity for Pittsburgh, which is rare for them. 222 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 3: Earlier on Monday, before NBA Free agency kicked off, all 223 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 3: the fireworking out of the NFL because the Pittsburgh Steelers 224 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 3: executed a trade with the Miami Dolphins that saw them 225 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 3: send All Pro safety Minka Fitzpatrick and a future draft 226 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 3: pick to the Miami Dolphins for All Pro corner Jalen 227 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 3: Ramsey and do everything tight end John new Smith. The 228 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 3: move reunites John new Smith with their offensive coordinator ars 229 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 3: Arthur Smith, and more importantly, it helps bolster at defense, 230 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 3: which was already the highest paid in football, but now 231 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 3: they add the all pro Jalen Ramsey. Appears that Pittsburgh 232 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 3: is going all in around Aaron Rodgers in twenty twenty five. 233 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 5: You want to go first, you go ahead. I'm all 234 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 5: in for this. Pittsburgh hasn't won a playoff game since 235 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 5: twenty sixteen. We're going on ten years. 236 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 4: That's crazy. 237 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 5: Okay, just forget about getting to they haven't won a 238 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 5: playoff game, So proud organization. 239 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 4: The heat is on. 240 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 5: I think for the fan base, for Mike Tomlin, front 241 00:10:55,920 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 5: office ownership people are like, okay, and I'm cool with 242 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,439 Speaker 5: this because the only reason you would go get an 243 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers is you have to be all in and 244 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 5: you're not rebuilding one foot in, one foot out. That 245 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 5: makes no sense. So you put something together and you 246 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 5: hope that you can have a team that could possibly 247 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 5: win a p I'm not saying they're gonna win the 248 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 5: championship or whatever. But I do like, if I'm a 249 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 5: Steelers fan, I'm tired of the idea of finishing over 250 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 5: five hundred. That didn't mean anything to me. I never 251 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 5: that whole streak with Mike Tom That doesn't do anything 252 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 5: for me. Early in his career when he won the 253 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 5: Super Bowl, the respiration like that was good. This and 254 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 5: then when they went to the Super Bowl against Aaron 255 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 5: Rodgers and the Packers and they lost, you know what 256 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 5: I mean, like, Okay, they won one, they went to 257 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 5: another one, like those were the Pittsburgh days. You don't 258 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 5: have to win all the time. No one's gonna win 259 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 5: all the time. But now you're talking about twenty sixteen. 260 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 5: I mean, my god, how long ago. That's when I 261 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 5: moved to LA I mean, I've been here forever now, 262 00:11:57,840 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 5: said his gray hair. I didn't have any of this 263 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 5: in my go team when I showed up here ten 264 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 5: almost ten years ago. So that's a long time. And 265 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 5: it just makes sense to me to be all in 266 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 5: because after this, if you want to replace the coach, 267 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 5: rebuild you know what I mean, tear it down or whatever, 268 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 5: or you think, hey, we made a run. All people 269 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 5: care about is all you in the mix, and can 270 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 5: I get to the dance and have a chance to win, Like, 271 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 5: anything can happen. Guys could be injured, you get somebody 272 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 5: could throw a bad pick. Like, there's so many things 273 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 5: that can happen to you that you could take a 274 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 5: look at the team that's supposed to beat you, the 275 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 5: Detroit Lions or the number one seed. They're nine and 276 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 5: a half point favors, They're at home and guess what 277 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 5: their quarterback what's to bend throose three interceptions in a 278 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 5: fumble right, and all of a sudden, the Commanders are 279 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 5: on their way and not the Lions. Like, that's what 280 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 5: can happen. So with this, if Pittsburgh gets gonna go 281 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 5: out of their way to bring in Aaron Rodgers, they 282 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 5: need to do these steps, put the best people around, 283 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 5: make some moves. You can't go with what you had 284 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 5: last year, you know what I mean, and just say, well, 285 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 5: the only difference is we're just gonna change the quarterback. 286 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 5: They've made moves and I'm for once, I'm. 287 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 4: Cool with it. I'm actually not mad at making moves. 288 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 1: I just don't like who they made the moves for 289 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: as much as uh as maybe you do or some 290 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: other people, I feel like it's a reshuffling of the deck. 291 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 4: I feel like it's you know you if you got it. 292 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: Rob g always has a nice haircut he gives himself, 293 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: and he got the part on his left side. It 294 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: would be like getting the same haircut, but they're putting 295 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: a part on the right side and be like, yo, 296 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: I did something different. 297 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 4: To me, it's the. 298 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: Same car, different paint, same girlfriend, just got a different name. 299 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: She looked the same act the same, just got a 300 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: different name. And that's my thing, Rob I actually and 301 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: with the all in to me, some examples would be 302 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: when the Bucks were all in, when they got Tom Brady, 303 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 1: they brought back drunk, they got they got Ab and 304 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: that team to me, was already Taylor made Tom and 305 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 1: a couple of other pieces was ready to do something, 306 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 1: especially in a bad division as they were in back then. 307 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: The Rams when they were like, man, we just need 308 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: a Von Miller, we need an Odell Beckham junior, we 309 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: need a Jalen Ramsey, as the Steelers just got a 310 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: younger Jalen Ramsey. 311 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 4: So to me those things made difference. 312 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: Is when you had the quarterback who was still willing 313 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: and Dylan and you say, a couple of piece here, 314 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: one piece there, we should be good to go. I 315 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: don't think Aaron Rodgers, And again I don't think he's 316 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: gonna be bad. Let me be very clear, but I 317 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: don't think he gets you over the hump. And I 318 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: was looking at Crunch. I disagree with you when you 319 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: talk about the hump. They won ten games with two quarterbacks. 320 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: They weren't happy with like that, like that. So I'm 321 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: glad you and I get what you're saying. But my 322 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: thing rob to that is Aaron Rodgers is another year older, right, 323 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: and that's just anybody we just start up here to 324 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: talk about the lebron last hour. He's another year older, 325 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: with a new offense, a new system, and that team 326 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: where he's already saying, yeah, this might be my last. 327 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 4: I guess this will probably be my last. 328 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: To me, what it will take for them to win, 329 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: you need to have had something a massive shift. And 330 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: if you're looking to win a playoff game but they can't, 331 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: that is embarrassing, right, No, it's. 332 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 5: Not because you can't win a super Bowl when you 333 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 5: haven't won a playoff game, but you got to first 334 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 5: win a playoff game. 335 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: But what I'm saying, I'd rather just win a playoff 336 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: game with my new guy, who is we're building towards something, 337 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: meaning okay, just winning the wild card game with Aaron 338 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: Rodgers and then you lose in the next round and 339 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: he's gone next year. It was like, what was the point? 340 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: But okay, we won one wild card game. To me, 341 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: I would rather build. I'd rather have my Jaden Daniels, 342 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: you know, my young guy Michael Pennick, junior bow Nicks, 343 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: and we got there. 344 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 4: Now we won. 345 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: Okay, now we're trying to keep moving. Maybe you don't, 346 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: but maybe with that new guy, just like Pennix. They 347 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: the Falcons had a chance to go to the playoffs. 348 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 5: They put them in and they actually didn't make the 349 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 5: playoffs because they put a rookie quarterback. 350 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 4: Because they're trying to build it. 351 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: If the Falcons man, you're excited about because you're excited 352 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: about what's the come. They saw Kirk Cousin throw more 353 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: interceptions than anything. We're still about trying to get into 354 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: the play I'm saying it building towards something. I think 355 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: as a as a fan. 356 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 4: Have that quarterback. They don't have that guy in place, 357 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 4: and they didn't. 358 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: They were talking about this, and that's because they didn't 359 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: want to run. No, they didn't believe. No, they didn't 360 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: believe that bros got no hear me out. 361 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 5: They didn't believe that those quarterbacks today they think there's 362 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 5: a better quarterback UH class next year. 363 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: But if they're trying to win the playoff game, they 364 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: ain't gonna get him. Well, but you know that's what 365 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: I'm saying. You would have to be building. You can 366 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: either suck. You look, you either suck, be building towards 367 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: something where you this suck like you think they ought 368 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: and they could get their quarterback and they're going, don't suck. 369 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: That's the problem set like you got eight to nine. 370 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 5: I want to to be I think right here and 371 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 5: I want to do this today. I think this will 372 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 5: be your worst football take of all seasons. I've already 373 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 5: put it out there. You got them for eight wins. 374 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 5: I want to put a bet on that that you 375 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 5: gotta wait see what TJ. Why I got that's a 376 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 5: massive part of it. That's the best. 377 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 4: But you're telling me now that they're eight guys. 378 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you why because if it's the only 379 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: move and I was gonna get to this sir. The 380 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: only reason I bring that up is because if TJ. 381 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: Whe was telling Robb g this, he's the one to 382 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: me that Obviously he's great. He's great, we know that. 383 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: But if they get a haul for him right now, 384 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 1: you all of a sudden, you get another receiver, you 385 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: get a back, like if they get a haul for TJ. Watt, 386 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 1: then we're having a different conversation. So I have to 387 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: say that's a massive part because now you might be 388 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: bringing in some very good pieces similar to what I mentioned. 389 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 4: But I said the team is not good even where 390 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 4: they are now. 391 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: I'm saying, if you bring in how many people, yeah, 392 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: it's not good. So I'm saying if you get a 393 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: top receiver, say you get a number one or a. 394 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 4: Time said Aaron Rodgers, is not right. 395 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: Because I'm saying, rob you need everything. When you're not 396 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: that great anymore, you need everything around you. If this 397 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: were Aaron rod six years ago, he good to go 398 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: because he's. 399 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 5: That six years ago. Patrick Mahomes won fifteen games with 400 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 5: the same. 401 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 4: Stats he's not. 402 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes won fifteen game with the six a great defense, 403 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 1: were lucky, and a lot of things. The three games 404 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: a lot of but then they had a great, great defense, 405 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: and then he went after and he made the I'm glad. 406 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 5: You and then and then they were able to get 407 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 5: to the super Bowl somehow, even though they weren't really good. 408 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 1: Here's that they were really good. They just they definitely, 409 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: I'll give you a handful of games he was a 410 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,719 Speaker 1: miskick or their kick hit the thing went in. But 411 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 1: the other part was that they officials, they knew how 412 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: to win. And that's the difference of where Aaron Rodgers at. 413 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: It's not that he's gonna have horrible games every game. 414 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: It's that when it comes to making the play, if 415 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: it's tied game and it's third and eight, he might 416 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: throw for six. Then they got a punt and where 417 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: the difference is now At this point, Patrick Mahomes can 418 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 1: run for that third eight and they end up winning 419 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: the game by field goal. Wasn't a great game, he 420 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: didn't play his best. He made three to four plays 421 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: a game that won the game. I don't believe Aaron 422 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: Rodgers can do that for the bulk of a season. 423 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: That's the difference right there. And if you look at 424 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: their numbers total offense, they were twenty second passing offense, 425 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 1: they were twenty seventh rushing. 426 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:13,239 Speaker 4: They were eleventh that got rid of. Now you hear 427 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 4: hold on. 428 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: So this what I'm going with this, rob They did 429 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: all that with Russell Wilson, who was essentially was slightly 430 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson will that they had two quarterbacks last year. 431 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 1: You got know, I'm saying they were slightly better. Russell 432 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: Wilson was slightly better than Aaron Rodgers. Just I'm talking 433 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: here on both tarch Jans and so to me, if 434 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: I got the centilly same guy and one is five 435 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: six years younger, and if that's kind of how we're 436 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: running it back, why not running back with that guy 437 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: instead of the guy who's another year older and who's 438 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: still coming off that Achilles injury from a year ago, 439 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: year and a half ago. Whatever it HAPs over, I 440 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: mean to me, I'm just I don't get that part 441 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: of it. And they're all in and I just see 442 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 1: a bunch of swaps. Okay, Mika Fitzpatrick, Jaylen Ramsey, maybe 443 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: a slight hair in Jalen at this point, Jalen ain't 444 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 1: Jalen when he went to the Rams. At this point, 445 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: you get George George Pickens is really good, but little 446 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: hot head, a little crazy. I'll give you that. So 447 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: you go and leave him and get DJ me DK Metcalf. 448 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: It's not as if you had pickings on the outside 449 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: and DK Metcalf. 450 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 4: Then I'm like, yeah, but they thought that. 451 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 5: They got pickings because of some issue. 452 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 4: Right, But I'm saying you didn't. So now I only 453 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 4: got a guy. Though. 454 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying. It's not like you have 455 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: a DJ Metcalp. You said he's just a guy. No, 456 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 1: I'm saying, I'm saying a singular guy mean I have one, 457 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: just like you're not adding everything you're doing. 458 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,439 Speaker 5: I think the idea you're talking about eight games, I 459 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 5: think your way off. I think whether they make whether TJ. 460 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: The Ravens, that's I'll split you with the With the Browns, 461 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: splitch it with them, they might beat win both games. 462 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 1: With the MIC I ain't for I splitch it for sure. 463 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 4: With the Bengals. 464 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: They ain't mean the Bengals, they mean the Mangles both 465 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:53,439 Speaker 1: and so to me, they just did a bunch of 466 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 1: swapping out George. 467 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 4: They won more. 468 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 5: They four and one with a quarterback who can't throw 469 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 5: last year had to start the season. They all went 470 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 5: down here after that, No, it didn't. They won five 471 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 5: in a row. 472 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,919 Speaker 1: They went after that, Ruck five and after that Ruck 473 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: said they went down. 474 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 4: They went after that. They knew sixth straight. 475 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 5: They knew what they were doing, and that the idea 476 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 5: that the quarterback that they had wasn't a guy that 477 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 5: they wanted. That's why they didn't keep them. 478 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: I don't agree with you. I'm agreeing with you. I 479 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: don't agree. I agree that that's what they chose because 480 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: clearly that's what they did. I don't agree they. 481 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 5: Watched them in practice and all the other reasons. He's 482 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 5: way younger, he's got an upside, All folly and all listeners. 483 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 5: How long you've been covering this league? Since nineteen eighty 484 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 5: six NFL. I thought the NFL was eighty six, no 485 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 5: Baseball and NFL eighty seven, So since nineteen eighty seven, 486 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 5: you're telling me teams ain't made a mistake. 487 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: Sure they have, but that's all I'm saying. I agree 488 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: they no, we want to win the quarterback like that. 489 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 1: It was drafted high. Who's been on his four team 490 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: in three and four years. Everybody's wrong, everybody. I just 491 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: feel like I want tobody. 492 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 5: You tell me about a quarterback has been traded that 493 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 5: much or not wanted on his fourth Wads Bears, Steelers 494 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 5: and that and the Jets. And that's all in how 495 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,360 Speaker 5: many years? That's in four years? Are you talking about 496 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 5: the trade the last three years he's been on three team? 497 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 4: Yep. 498 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: And I just but to me, they're just doing the same. 499 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: It's just a it's the same haircut part on the 500 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: other side, it's the same car, different paint. 501 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 4: To me, they just swapped out. Guys. 502 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple 503 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 2: with Rob Parker and kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm 504 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 2: Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the 505 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app. 506 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 4: All right, Rob, g the box and Knowing over the weekend, 507 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 4: Let's get to that real quick. 508 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 3: You're talking about Yontay Wilder. No, you're not talking about that. 509 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:49,360 Speaker 3: You're talking about Jake Paul. Ask me how much I've 510 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 3: watched Jake Paul? How much is you watch? Welling a 511 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 3: couple of highlights. But you think I'm gonna watch his 512 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 3: fight the Tyson one? Remember I told you that. No, 513 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 3: I've watched you call it, but I remember we watched here. 514 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,199 Speaker 5: Rob caught the illegal stream exactly. 515 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 7: I caught the legal stream, but you know I'm not 516 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 7: giving Jake Paul two Nichols, all right, Well, a lot 517 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 7: of people gave Jake Paul two Nichols over the weekend 518 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 7: because he beat former professional boxer Julio Sayser Chavis Junior 519 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 7: on Saturday, easy decision. 520 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 3: As a result, guys, get this, He has officially moved 521 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 3: is at the top fifteen of the WBA cruiserweight division, 522 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 3: which means he is eligible for a title shot. 523 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 4: Now. 524 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 3: Yes, Jake Paul, who has fought basketball players, UFC fighters 525 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 3: and retired boxers, is now eligible for a world title fight. 526 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 4: Was see if he gets it. But after the. 527 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 3: Fight, a current champion WBC superwaterweight champ, Virgil Ortizi Virgil 528 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,360 Speaker 3: thank you, put out a tweet that just went in 529 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 3: on Jake Paul. Here's what it reads in part, Jake 530 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,959 Speaker 3: Paul is scamming the entire world with his circus fights, 531 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 3: selling his real fights, but the entire world continues to 532 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 3: eat it all up and then have the nerve to 533 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 3: be disappointed because the circuits fight they pay the watch 534 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 3: aren't real fights. He is single handedly destroying the sport 535 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 3: and everyone else is enabling it. 536 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 5: I'm with him, I'm serious, like, like this is you 537 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 5: know you talk about it, well, there's nothing to do. 538 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 5: Just what's the big deal? Just get it, watch it, 539 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 5: bring something. But you you're enabling him to continue to 540 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,199 Speaker 5: do this and not deliver the product. 541 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 4: I get it. 542 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 5: People watch train wrecks, people gawk on the highway, right, 543 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 5: they might see somebody's leg off or something, you know. 544 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 5: Like I'm just saying, like so, just because a lot 545 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 5: of people are paying attention to what it doesn't mean 546 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 5: that it's good. And that's the problem I have, Like, 547 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 5: when you pay money, you you can make this thing 548 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 5: even worse. And what as a guy who covered boxing 549 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 5: and whatnot, we're boxing is headed And now for them 550 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 5: to even consider him getting a fight, you know, a 551 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,719 Speaker 5: title fight, Yeah, because they see the money that's attached 552 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 5: to him, do you know what I mean? And they 553 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 5: want some of it, whether he's earned it or not 554 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 5: or had legitimate fights to get to this point. I 555 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 5: just it is a mockery. It's a shame, and I 556 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 5: just won't have any part of it. I think boxing 557 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 5: has been destroyed and Jake Paul is a bad thing 558 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 5: for boxing. 559 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 4: That's me. Here's the problem. 560 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: Though, Rob, I blame boxing boxing when you mentioned it 561 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 1: the heyday. I mean, obviously boxing has been a big 562 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: American stable for fights, you know, but back in the seventies, 563 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: the eighties, the nineties, and even early two thousand and man, 564 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:33,679 Speaker 1: you had that, dude, there's no way you missed a 565 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: fill in the blank fight. I don't care if Felix 566 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: Trinidad to to to Oscar de la Hoya to Roy 567 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: Jones Jr. To Tyson to Evander you boxing was real deal. 568 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,439 Speaker 1: Where what we do we at the fight. We're at 569 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: the fight party. We're going to a sports bar. My 570 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: buddies got like you made sure this Saturday night you 571 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: could bring a date. If Rob g said, hey man, 572 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 1: everybody come to the crib, big boxing fight. Come on, 573 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 1: we're gonna get some drinks and food, have a good time. 574 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: You could bring your lady like a new date. Hayes, 575 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 1: big fire, My gosh, let's go. I sted a fight 576 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: girl dressing up for the fight. It was real deal. 577 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: Everybody was excited about fights, and I blamed boxing for 578 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: starting to get too money hungry, just starting the cherry 579 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 1: pick fights. Who wouldn't fight a lot of this? People 580 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: say with Floyd Mayweather, I'm only gonna fight him. Well, 581 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna fight that. You used to have the 582 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: best of the best of the best, who said to themselves, Rob, 583 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 1: I'm not the best if I don't fight him. 584 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 5: But but but I'm with you on the boxing and 585 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 5: that tip in Floyd and Floyd stopped me from watching boxing. Okay, 586 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,439 Speaker 5: we used to have the fights at the barber, but 587 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 5: I used to stop because they weren't entertaining. 588 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 4: And it was always the fight that. 589 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 5: We wanted were going up, and the fight that we 590 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 5: wanted we didn't get right right, We didn't get the 591 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,400 Speaker 5: fight when we should have gotten it. 592 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 4: And my point now with Jake Paul. 593 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 5: And him just fighting these has been never was is 594 00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 5: and all these Tyson and whatnot, it is a mockery. 595 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 4: It is. 596 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 5: And that's why didn't want Mike Tyson, Remember I told 597 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 5: you don't. I didn't want him to be a part 598 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 5: of that because he's a real fighter. 599 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 4: One of the best of the best. 600 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 1: What they're doing and this check and this is the 601 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,120 Speaker 1: problem Rob, with where we are now. And I think 602 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: there's a large group of young people and I was 603 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,679 Speaker 1: telling Rob g this who have grown up on social media, 604 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 1: who actually don't know what classic, iconic or great is. 605 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: And what I mean is they don't know about great 606 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: fights when fights were a thing. They don't know about 607 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: great movies because now all these movies are Netflix movies 608 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: and Amazon, where they're not great. They just get a 609 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 1: big name to make a pay. Hey, Kevin Hard, Adam Sandler, 610 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: here's one hundred million dollars for five movies. And they're 611 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 1: cranking abut movie movie movie movies just to crank out 612 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: and get past the deal where the movies aren't great. 613 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 1: But the kids are just streaming and they don't know 614 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: what iconic with great, with classic is anymore. So now 615 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: they'll tolerate anything, and they'll tolerate the current of the 616 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: moments we are and that's where we are. So boxing, 617 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 1: they don't know great boxing Robin four. So they just 618 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: know Jake Paul is popular. He looks serious in the ring, 619 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: he looks and watches his new documentary of him getting 620 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: in shape to fight, and to them, that is a fight. 621 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: There are eighteen year olds right now who genuinely look 622 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: at Jake Paul as an actual real fighter like that, 623 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,120 Speaker 1: then in their mind, a boxer is Jake Paul because 624 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 1: that's all they known. He's mastered social media, he's master clicks, 625 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: he's master cloud, and he's master views. But but mony 626 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: thing is like, the performances aren't great. It ain't like, 627 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:31,919 Speaker 1: you know, it's a great fight though, I don't know 628 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,239 Speaker 1: any I'm saying, not me. I'm saying I'm sixteen. I'm 629 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 1: sure this is the bro dude there right, This is 630 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. 631 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 5: They watch it, but they watched the Mike Tyson thing 632 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,719 Speaker 5: and thought, what what what? What they come away with 633 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 5: that after watching that. 634 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: Mike was Mike Tyson wasn't that great? Okay, now they 635 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: can go, oh, y'all been telling me Mike Tyson was 636 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: that guy while my life, you know, he ain't that great, see, 637 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: I mean he was. The fight was booty and he 638 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 1: has showed his booty. That's what they're gonna take. It 639 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: was double boody. It was double cheeked up the fight. 640 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: How'd you think of the fight? Kids on Mike Tyson 641 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: double cheeks his career and the fight and we got 642 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: to sit there like no, I'll tell you. In nineteen 643 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 1: eighty eighty was cold twenty years old. He was the 644 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 1: world chip. It was the world Tevin and they don't 645 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: want to hear that. And now Jake Paul is a 646 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: real fighter in the mind, that's what the worst part 647 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: about this is. 648 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 4: And boxing should be a shape boxon. 649 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,239 Speaker 5: The idea that they're gonna give him a chance at 650 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 5: a title fighting. 651 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: Because why wasn't They Now rob everything and there's no 652 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 1: such thing as standard, there's no thing such thing as integrity, 653 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: there's no such thing as standing on business. It's views, 654 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 1: it's clicks, it's cloud, it's streaming, it's it's all washed 655 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: up now there's no Have. 656 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 4: You listened to radio lately? 657 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: And I don't mean classic eighties, I'm talking about new 658 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: modern radio, Dude. Who they're listening to now is an embarrassment? 659 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 1: Is too When I, you and I we turn on 660 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: the radio, let's just say it was a traditional just 661 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: kind of your traditional hip hop and R and B. 662 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: You turned on Luther Whitney, Brandy Monica, Mary J. Blige, Tupac, 663 00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: Biggie jay Z, outcast. That was a normal, normal day 664 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: when talent actually mattered. Now it's who's the best at 665 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,719 Speaker 1: getting views, not necessarily talented. I'm dropping bars and I'm 666 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: done