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Speaker 2: On September ninth, twenty twenty four, searchers on a property

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Speaker 2: in Madison County in the area of Kingston, Arkansas, found

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Speaker 2: female body parts. My source tells me that they found

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Speaker 1: Police have shared.

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Speaker 2: Almost no information about this investigation, and while Sheriff Ronnie

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Speaker 2: some people in Madison County think that this body was

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Speaker 2: discovered while the police were searching for Jason Lyrel. We

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Speaker 2: did several episodes about that case. Forty one year old

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Speaker 2: Jason Lerell was going through a divorce. His fourteen year

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Speaker 2: relationship with his wife, Jamaica, had deteriorated. Jason had had

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Speaker 2: the winner of teawenty twenty two, it seems he relapsed.

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Speaker 2: In January of twenty twenty two, Jason Lerel was visiting friends.

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Speaker 1: In Madison County.

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Speaker 2: He was last seen at various residences in Huntsville, and

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Speaker 2: then Jason disappeared. His abandoned car was found in the

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Speaker 2: found in different places in Arkansas and in Missouri. Jason

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Speaker 2: Lyrell was never seen alive again, which has had a

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Speaker 2: lot of people asking what's going on in Madison County

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Speaker 2: and if there could be a killer, maybe even a

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Speaker 2: serial killer on the loose. I'm Catherine Townsend. Over the

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Speaker 2: past five years of making my true crime podcast, Helling Gone,

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Speaker 2: I've learned that there is no such thing as a

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Speaker 2: small town where murder never happens. I have received hundreds

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Speaker 2: of messages from people all around the country asking for

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Speaker 2: help with an unsolved murder that's affected them, their families,

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Speaker 2: and their communities.

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Speaker 1: If you have a case you'd like me and my.

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Speaker 2: at our Helen Gone Murder Line at six seven eight

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Speaker 2: This is Helen Gone Murder Line. When police found the

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Speaker 2: remains in a field by a rural residence in Kingston,

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Speaker 2: my sources said they were shocked to discover that those

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Speaker 2: remains were not Jason Lyrell's. Instead, they found the body

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Speaker 2: of a young woman. They figured out that that woman

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Speaker 2: was thirty year old Taylor Barksdale, who had been living

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Speaker 2: in Huntsville. A lot of Taylor's life is still a mystery.

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Speaker 2: We don't even officially know when she went missing. We

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Speaker 2: Taylor's life by talking to her family and friends. Taylor

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Speaker 2: years ago. In recent years, her family he tells me

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Speaker 2: Taylor had become involved with drugs, and also, according to

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Speaker 1: I called Taylor's.

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Speaker 3: Aunt, Hello, oh had This is Catherine from Helen Gone.

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Speaker 3: Nice to talk to you, which under circumstances I was

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Speaker 3: gonna say, I'm so sorry it's under these circumstances, but

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Speaker 3: I really do appreciate you talking to me. I appreciate

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Speaker 3: you wanting to get involved in SODA's the rest of

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Speaker 2: The area where Taylor was found was in a very

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Speaker 2: that people manufacture, deal, and use drugs. Shortly after midnight

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Speaker 2: on August fifth, she heard a woman screaming next door,

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Speaker 2: so she called nine one one.

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Speaker 3: She did not know Taylor, but she had seen Taylor

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Speaker 3: And I like, you're going to miss a police car

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Speaker 2: As days and weeks passed with no communication from law enforcement,

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Speaker 2: many mysteries around this case. Because police are not revealing anything,

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Speaker 2: He's a former law enforcement officer who has worked in

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Speaker 2: So let's reinvestigate what happened to Jason. Remember, we talked

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Speaker 2: Now we went into this a lot in previous episodes

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Speaker 2: I'm told there's certain questions that can only be answered

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Speaker 2: I'm Catherine Townsend. This is Helen Gone Murder Line. Helen

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