Speaker 1: On this episode, we're breaking down the Eagles. Everything you
Speaker 1: didn't know about the Eagles right here in this podcast,
Speaker 1: and what do we need from the Commanders to get
Speaker 1: a victory? This week we got our game predictions and
Speaker 1: Tanna saw Rambo in disguise in his home eg class.
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Speaker 1: Welcome into the command Center Podcast. I'm logan Paulson Dear
Speaker 1: with Fred Spoot with a six shirt on today and
Speaker 1: said Tana Moss, who's got the legends on today?
Speaker 2: This is kind of a quiet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but showing his age, showing his age, all right?
Speaker 2: So all right?
Speaker 1: This week got the Philadelphia Eagles Boys, Yeah Division game
Speaker 1: fried cheek.
Speaker 2: I love it now what I call him the Philadelia
Speaker 2: Fried Chick? Why is that?
Speaker 3: Because you know they Philadelphia fans are blous.
Speaker 4: They are like the most hard up fans and they
Speaker 4: just they's too much sometimes they can be too.
Speaker 2: Much, too much, they can be too much thanking for
Speaker 2: it and made that up though I always called them,
Speaker 2: I always.
Speaker 1: Called them yeah. So I always used to love playing
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia just because it is like a hostel.
Speaker 5: I just like I just like the Philly cheese steaks.
Speaker 5: I ain't gonna lie to you, I mean tax on
Speaker 5: there for the cheese steaks and the non tax.
Speaker 1: On the did is there a spot you go to fu?
Speaker 2: Yeah? What is cabibeless South Street?
Speaker 1: I've never been there? Is it worth going? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Most everybody talked about Gino's and all like, yeah, I
Speaker 5: like Ish cabibles.
Speaker 2: It's it's cabibules. I'd be there. This this Aredyn you
Speaker 2: know old cheese steaks.
Speaker 1: Do they have they have a sandwich after you?
Speaker 2: No, they don't even know I've come in there. I
Speaker 2: come in that thing. They got all all the other
Speaker 2: famous people from Philly and all over the world on there. Man,
Speaker 2: I'm coming to get mistake and.
Speaker 3: Probably got a fred fans Freddie Mitchell.
Speaker 1: What's I bet you they? I bet you they do
Speaker 1: open there?
Speaker 4: You know, Todd Pinkston this cheese steak.
Speaker 5: You know, it's funny because a couple of times, especially
Speaker 5: when I was playing ball, a few times when I
Speaker 5: was a jet and probably three or four times when
Speaker 5: I was redskin, I was sitting in there eating at
Speaker 5: the bar, at the table and fans, you know, folks
Speaker 5: coming in like and I'm sitting like.
Speaker 2: Let me.
Speaker 5: They were like, we're gonna wait for him. And I
Speaker 5: don't care about all that stuff. I'm just trying to
Speaker 5: eat and go, you know, but trust me.
Speaker 1: They you're gonna be out there this weekend, right you're
Speaker 1: doing like something? Are you doing out there? Pre games?
Speaker 2: Games? We got pre and post game.
Speaker 5: Then we also have a little show that we're doing,
Speaker 5: I believe Saturday Night.
Speaker 1: So all right, So you know, if you want to
Speaker 1: get more Santana's opinions on.
Speaker 4: This, I want you to do me a favorite talent.
Speaker 4: I want you to go run them steps with their Rocky.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't And I just want you to to write
Speaker 4: a mark on him or something.
Speaker 2: I want you to do. Listen, what are you talking
Speaker 2: about taking a video and sending to you?
Speaker 4: I just get so sick of that Rocky statue? Don't
Speaker 4: don't exist? Fractally liked Rocky though I was a fan.
Speaker 4: I liked the movie and I went to school with
Speaker 4: the best saloon. What University of Miamy He graduated with us.
Speaker 2: What two thousand and one? Stop? Stop? You did you
Speaker 2: know him?
Speaker 5: I didn't know him, So he just grabbed a class
Speaker 5: with him that he didn't know. I knew it was him,
Speaker 5: But so I go up to take my test one day,
Speaker 5: big old audit term class sober.
Speaker 2: People in there. You don't know half of the people
Speaker 2: in there.
Speaker 5: And the guy always used to be sitting there very front,
Speaker 5: and he comes disguise. You didn't know he was the
Speaker 5: disguise until the much test. So he goes take his
Speaker 5: tests up and I'm like, why you don't have a
Speaker 5: name on this paper? And I looked back, I said,
Speaker 5: well that must be him, and the teacher looked at
Speaker 5: me like.
Speaker 2: I just handled my paper in.
Speaker 1: But so he was coming back to do like secondary.
Speaker 5: I don't know what he was doing. He graduated with
Speaker 5: our class, two thousand and one class.
Speaker 2: He's way older than he's like a thousand years old.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, but bro, you never knew it was him.
Speaker 5: He's small as hell. Like all I do that, let
Speaker 5: me know, because I'm a big Rocky Fan'm a big
Speaker 5: you know Rambo all that. I used to watch all
Speaker 5: this stuff. I remember every birthday I would get one
Speaker 5: the Rambo water guns on it. So now I'm a
Speaker 5: big fan of them. But I'm one of those guys.
Speaker 5: I would never blow his cover. So I'm like, I
Speaker 5: told a couple of guys on the team, like, man,
Speaker 5: I got I think I finally saw Salic Salon in
Speaker 5: my class.
Speaker 2: But I didn't say anything like man, I would have
Speaker 2: rand him down. I'm like, bro, that's.
Speaker 4: His real name, though his real name ain't Rocky, and
Speaker 4: Rocky is not a real person. I listen, Philadelphi is
Speaker 4: the only city in America.
Speaker 2: Why you hating on them? People like that Mantu statue.
Speaker 3: Man, the dude is not real.
Speaker 4: You may we in DC, we got statues of George
Speaker 4: Washington and Been.
Speaker 3: Franklin, real men that did real things. Not not imagine that.
Speaker 2: This is like me having a Magnum p I statue
Speaker 2: in my front yard. That don't work.
Speaker 3: I steaming Willie bean and statue in my No, it
Speaker 3: don't work.
Speaker 1: So just for for for the record, they're the only
Speaker 1: city in America that has one.
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, it's a Yo the statue.
Speaker 3: I found that out in San Francisco. But he's an alien.
Speaker 1: That I did some You said this to me earlier
Speaker 1: this week, so I did some fact checking. So for
Speaker 1: a segment later, we're gonna talk some more about that.
Speaker 1: But in the meantime, I gotta ask you this question
Speaker 1: real quick. Is Rocky the best sports movie all time?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: What what's better sports movie? Sports movie?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 2: I love Rocky?
Speaker 1: But hey, what's the best sports movie all time?
Speaker 2: Well? I'm I'm football guy. So I like the program
Speaker 2: programs like Rudy.
Speaker 5: You know Rudy was the program any given Sunday over
Speaker 5: the I like Blue Chips.
Speaker 3: I like uh Jesus Shaddle's worth with Ray Allen.
Speaker 2: He got Game, he got Game.
Speaker 1: Oh, he got Game. I've never seen that. I've wanted
Speaker 1: to watch it for a couple of years.
Speaker 2: I Got Game is a great movie. What was the
Speaker 2: one with with Tim is my favorite? Glove and Sean Kemp.
Speaker 2: They was in a movie on what it was called?
Speaker 2: I know what you're talking about. I can't get that
Speaker 2: movie The Glove? Uh rock pay Yeah?
Speaker 4: But Tim Pin is one of my favorite with big
Speaker 4: Ear McCracken, because that's my bowling name.
Speaker 2: Like when I go bowling, that's what I put on my.
Speaker 3: Name, mccrack.
Speaker 2: I love anything.
Speaker 1: Is is Big Leboski a sports movie? Because it's got
Speaker 1: bowling in it?
Speaker 3: Not really?
Speaker 4: It got his own wheel wheel Like, I don't know
Speaker 4: what it is. Is it comedy?
Speaker 2: I don't know who's yours?
Speaker 1: Remember the Titans or those in there?
Speaker 4: Remember the Titans a great.
Speaker 1: Because you're a football You're a really football central.
Speaker 4: Because if you got to make Rocky one of the
Speaker 4: best movies, Creed gotta be up there to them.
Speaker 2: I have not seen the new ones.
Speaker 5: I like the Creedes because it's it's great for what
Speaker 5: what you know for now you know that generation, it's
Speaker 5: on top.
Speaker 2: Rocky, Rocky, Rocky.
Speaker 1: I went back and watched it when I was young,
Speaker 1: and I was like, man, this movie is kind of whatever.
Speaker 1: And then I watched it when I was like in
Speaker 1: college maybe again. I was like, this is an awesome Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's awesome.
Speaker 2: The Russian came and beat him too, you know, he Creed.
Speaker 2: That's what I feel like.
Speaker 5: Hey, look, I mentioned this to you the other day
Speaker 5: watching that Colorado game against Oregon.
Speaker 2: No it was Colorad Colorado State.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was literally sitting there was like, man, this
Speaker 5: is this is like the Russian beating on.
Speaker 2: Creek. And it's funny that they end up coming back
Speaker 2: and winning.
Speaker 5: But man, like, if you ever think about that movie Apollo, guys,
Speaker 5: he got throw like that that it was devastating as
Speaker 5: a kid. Honestly, I swear to you, I cried when
Speaker 5: Apollo and when he died on that movie. I literally
Speaker 5: thought he was dead for real action Jackson, I'm like,
Speaker 5: I promise you, I'm like I was.
Speaker 4: I was shocked, like the man was still a love.
Speaker 4: So honestly, I can remembers get out of there, get
Speaker 4: out of that and the rush was just what I
Speaker 4: remember throwing that tower wing looking and that town was
Speaker 4: just going.
Speaker 2: Us a little motion.
Speaker 3: God you do it too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, so let's talk about some football. Some football.
Speaker 1: I'm glad we had that conversation. I feel like I
Speaker 1: know you guys that much better. Now, let's talk about
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia defense and what this offense can expect. I mean, Fred, like,
Speaker 1: when you look at this defensive line, yes, I mean
Speaker 1: I think we got to start right with this group
Speaker 1: because they are very, very talented. They have you know,
Speaker 1: like you said this the other day. But their third
Speaker 1: guy is Cox and he's gonna he's probably gonna be
Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer. So you got Jordan Davis, who
Speaker 1: is not the same guy he was last year.
Speaker 2: He is in shame.
Speaker 4: What's going on with He's no No, Jordan Davis realized
Speaker 4: they drafted Jayden Card and I had to.
Speaker 2: Deal with him.
Speaker 4: I was in college so don't what I say about
Speaker 4: this line, and I love this thing. We went about
Speaker 4: building our teams very similar philadelph in Washington. Yeah, we
Speaker 4: got the best generation of players out of Alabama and
Speaker 4: put him on that d line. They got the best
Speaker 4: generation Georgia out of Georgia and put him on the DLD.
Speaker 4: So this kind of like SEC's finest versus the SEC's fine.
Speaker 1: I don't know they're gonna give those boys look good
Speaker 1: because there was I mean, this is one place scouting,
Speaker 1: so I watched a lot of players in Jordan Davis,
Speaker 1: but he had a play against Minnesota where he takes
Speaker 1: the center, throws him in to the puller, then the
Speaker 1: back comes, they both fall over the back and he
Speaker 1: gets a sack on the quarterback. It was like it
Speaker 1: was like some Pop Warner stuff. And then we haven't
Speaker 1: even talked about Jallen Cardi, who I have not I've seen.
Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever seen a rookie come in
Speaker 1: and just be so disrupted. Domini domb like the play
Speaker 1: that he had against Tampa Bay where he's he's rushing
Speaker 1: the pastor he comes out and punches the ball.
Speaker 3: The ball out that this shows you did and DNC.
Speaker 4: This would always tell people not only was he the
Speaker 4: most talented person in this draft, he's highly motivated because
Speaker 4: he dropped I dropped when we when you highly motivated,
Speaker 4: it burns like I knew I was, like I'm scared,
Speaker 4: Like I'm scared for same half.
Speaker 2: Like listen, at the end of the day.
Speaker 1: No scaring for him. Really, are you being hyperbolic a
Speaker 1: little hyperb.
Speaker 2: Honestly about his game?
Speaker 1: Like yeah, and so obviously those dudes are We'll talk
Speaker 1: about the matchups here in the second more specifically. Then
Speaker 1: they got Josh Sweat, who is absolutely filthiest, and then
Speaker 1: Brandon Graham's his back up. Then he Redi Reddick, who
Speaker 1: led the league in sacks last year. So that is
Speaker 1: a heck of a group. I will say they're not quite.
Speaker 2: As last year. Yeah, they're not.
Speaker 1: They're not winning as quick as they were last year.
Speaker 1: Like it feels like they're doing a good job of
Speaker 1: like compressing pockets, but they're not Like you know, it's
Speaker 1: like when you watch t J. Watt or Joey Bosa
Speaker 1: or Miles Garrett where it's like and it's like they're
Speaker 1: in the back of the right now you haven't seen
Speaker 1: a ton of that, But obviously they have the ability
Speaker 1: to get that done if they need to. So in
Speaker 1: terms of matchups, obviously Wiley's probably gonna get a signed
Speaker 1: Reddick who But Wiley did a good did a good
Speaker 1: job of the Super Bowl. Wiley is really athletic, and
Speaker 1: he matches up with athletic rushers.
Speaker 2: Better than power.
Speaker 1: So if I was if I was Philly, I'd be like, hey,
Speaker 1: Brandon Graham, you go over there, yeah and give him
Speaker 1: some work. Cosmeon Jalen Carter and Cosmey has done a
Speaker 1: good job against some pretty good pass rusher shadow.
Speaker 2: What do you think?
Speaker 5: My question is do we change do we give him
Speaker 5: a different look or two here and there? Do we
Speaker 5: put less in lesson routes and and bring in more protection?
Speaker 5: And I think just going forward, man and just playing
Speaker 5: a lot of offense. Throughout my career, you know, teams
Speaker 5: finds a way to just say, hey, okay, you know
Speaker 5: we can add something to what we do. We don't
Speaker 5: want to scrap what we do, but we're gonna We're
Speaker 5: gonna watch a team or two that play these guys
Speaker 5: that was successful offensively, that moved the ball, and let's
Speaker 5: take a couple of you know, things from their playbook.
Speaker 2: And you know, put it with our not to move
Speaker 2: the pocket.
Speaker 5: I just feel like from what I've been seeing, yeah,
Speaker 5: I want to see his move to pocket once or twice.
Speaker 5: We saw that probably once or twice last week. But
Speaker 5: I think the more and more I see Sam kind
Speaker 5: of still sticking with what he knows best is wait,
Speaker 5: because you gotta give them, you gotta give him credit.
Speaker 3: He just he just sits in there. He takes up
Speaker 3: on there and.
Speaker 5: He was like, I'm counting fun woman down two. I
Speaker 5: swear to you, I watched film and I count Mississippis,
Speaker 5: just to see how long he's waiting. With all that
Speaker 5: being said, and you knowing what Sam brains to you,
Speaker 5: knowing what you're facing, we have to give him a
Speaker 5: couple of wrinkles, different wrinkles that they have yet.
Speaker 2: Out of his hand. This is how to take the
Speaker 2: clock out of his hand.
Speaker 4: When I move the pocket and I do a quarterback
Speaker 4: waggons and roll outs, you know, you got to get
Speaker 4: the ball out right then if I do play action,
Speaker 4: you know, when you get that back foot, the ball
Speaker 4: gotta be gone. I'm gonna take the clock out of
Speaker 4: your head, and I'm gonna dictate it with my play
Speaker 4: call and make you.
Speaker 5: Throw on time and at the same time add a
Speaker 5: few runs in there. That's going to allow us to
Speaker 5: have to kind of flow to our offense that we had.
Speaker 2: A year ago.
Speaker 5: You know what I mean, Because I feel like that
Speaker 5: was the best scheme I've seen him saying. And uh,
Speaker 5: I mean, that was the way you control the ball game.
Speaker 5: We ran the ball we ran. You reapronize the running,
Speaker 5: weaponize our run game. We also allowed their offense to
Speaker 5: sit there and get cold on the side. And that's
Speaker 5: what you have to do to the game. You have
Speaker 5: to shorten the game, but you have to make sure
Speaker 5: that because I feel like we moved the ball pretty well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: But the one thing or two things that hurt us
Speaker 5: is when we sit down here trying to find that
Speaker 5: guy or try to get that big splash play, and
Speaker 5: you know, our quarterback being young and not really realizing
Speaker 5: like you got to get rid of that ball.
Speaker 2: He wants that big play. He sits there and wait
Speaker 2: for that guy to get the line. Don't forget they
Speaker 2: got big play. Slay on one side and we'll talk
Speaker 2: about the second so.
Speaker 3: It's just it's just one of those things where.
Speaker 2: You got to take what you give.
Speaker 1: One of the things I wanted to bring up real
Speaker 1: quick is that they are the number one rated rushing
Speaker 1: defense in the NFL right now. Teams only average three
Speaker 1: yards to carry against and that's the highest the NFL.
Speaker 1: They're one of five teams that has not given up
Speaker 1: a rushing touchdowns.
Speaker 2: Teams don't run against him. Could they be behind, you know, I.
Speaker 1: Mean, but but not even really though, Like look at
Speaker 1: the game flows they've been in a couple of last
Speaker 1: couple weeks. Again, they're playing the Patriots. Patriots are struggling
Speaker 1: from the quarterback position. But that yeah, but that was
Speaker 1: that that game was close for a long time. Minnesota.
Speaker 1: That game was close for a long time. And Minnesota
Speaker 1: doesn't run the ball at time. But they also had
Speaker 1: four turnovers, uh fumbles I think in that game.
Speaker 2: So that's terrible.
Speaker 1: And then obviously Tampa Bay tried to run the ball
Speaker 1: a little bit, but there was nothing going. So it's
Speaker 1: to me, I think, to Tannis point, it's like, what
Speaker 1: can they do from a creative standpoint to maximize what
Speaker 1: your group does well and what they do poorly? So
Speaker 1: like when I look at Jordan Davis is playing excellent football,
Speaker 1: but he's a big guy. Can we get him move
Speaker 1: inside the side gets some blatteral stuff because I will
Speaker 1: say when you watch cause me and Wiley, those dudes
Speaker 1: are lightning quick user athleticism. Get him in combinations? Sadis excellent. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Gates has been playing pretty good football too, So
Speaker 1: can we get that moving? Can we get them some
Speaker 1: misdirection stuff going help elevate that group? You know, one
Speaker 1: of the plays that we need to run versus really
Speaker 1: good three techniques and those cards was wham with the
Speaker 1: tight end coming back and cracking guys and stuff. So
Speaker 1: will we see a new wrinkle to help run the football?
Speaker 1: I think that's something to keep an eye on. It's
Speaker 1: must Yeah, I think so too, because it's gonna be
Speaker 1: that's that's a it's a really good physical.
Speaker 5: Then thinking about what we've been doing in the passing game,
Speaker 5: now that you see most teams, it's gonna be interesting
Speaker 5: just to see how they come out and cover guys,
Speaker 5: how many theyre going to bring.
Speaker 2: It's like cover.
Speaker 1: It's a cover three man mix, right, is that kind
Speaker 1: of what I'm saying?
Speaker 5: So in that case it might play in our favorite
Speaker 5: because now we've been waiting on that because you know,
Speaker 5: the last last few weeks we've been seeing a lot,
Speaker 5: a lot of zone. So hopefully they do give with
Speaker 5: that man and say, hey, we're confident by what we
Speaker 5: have up front. We're gonna come after you and we're
Speaker 5: gonna say you beat us outside, which I think we have.
Speaker 2: We have the guys to do it.
Speaker 5: Not scared of nobody this game here. I also would
Speaker 5: like to see a little bit more Johan Dawson.
Speaker 2: I think it's.
Speaker 5: Time he's having big of a weapon for us to
Speaker 5: have only two or three attempts for I think he
Speaker 5: got total you.
Speaker 2: Know what I mean. I think that's something that's coming.
Speaker 5: Though, yeah I do too, But I just feel like,
Speaker 5: you know, he's a guy that you have to put
Speaker 5: in special plays, splash plays here and there.
Speaker 3: Now you gotta focus on get him the ball.
Speaker 4: Like the thing about it is with wide receivers is
Speaker 4: I watched it with Jamar Chase and Joe Burrow. They
Speaker 4: came into the game like we're fen a fourth feed.
Speaker 4: He's got the ball because we haven't been getting in
Speaker 4: the ball. I just think when you make it a
Speaker 4: priority to find matchups with people.
Speaker 2: That's what you do.
Speaker 3: Because Brad Barry and Slay gonna be ready to play
Speaker 3: some man a man.
Speaker 2: But hey, we watched these year.
Speaker 1: Well sure they ran so much soft zones, so the district,
Speaker 1: so we know Slays the corner, right the safety is
Speaker 1: hurt right now, Justin Evans is hurt. Edvands Terrella is in.
Speaker 1: I'm not familiar with.
Speaker 2: Edmonds from Virginia.
Speaker 4: He played here in Virginia, play got drafted by the
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh Still.
Speaker 1: Sidney Brown is hurt, so reblanken Ship will be in all.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure who Josh job is, but he's there.
Speaker 1: Other he's from Alabama.
Speaker 4: He's a corner. Yeah, yeah, he's a pretty good corner.
Speaker 4: But I don't think he could check in anybody.
Speaker 1: But what's interesting is James Bradbury's playing nickel for him right.
Speaker 4: Now, so he's inside. I run at him, would you?
Speaker 4: I would run at him?
Speaker 2: Like listen.
Speaker 1: That's the thing I was gonna say. Because even their
Speaker 1: second level of the linebacker, Zach Cunningham and Nicholas Morreu,
Speaker 1: like they're fine players, but they're not great, not great.
Speaker 1: I feel like they really lean on that defensive line
Speaker 1: to be disruptive pressure and then so my question would be,
Speaker 1: can you run at him with the defensive front the
Speaker 1: way I'm.
Speaker 4: Gonna run at the ends. I'm gonna run at the ends.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna run a lot of off tackle. I'm gonna
Speaker 4: run at them. So when he's taping them in the past,
Speaker 4: rush because it ain't no use for me running.
Speaker 2: Into this brick wall.
Speaker 3: So I do two things by running at the edges.
Speaker 4: I tied the defensive end, but I also tied to
Speaker 4: the tackles because they're running sideway.
Speaker 2: So now when I run, my quarterback raggles and when I.
Speaker 3: Run this, these players flow off.
Speaker 4: So I want to marry them and make sure for
Speaker 4: the whole entire game all they see is the back
Speaker 4: of the back of what's in that house jersey, because
Speaker 4: he's going sideways most time, not streat.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you watch this, but in the
Speaker 1: Minnesota game, Minnesota was getting beat on. Man, it was bad.
Speaker 1: The first quarter was rough for him. What they do
Speaker 1: came out ransom keepers, right keepers, getting those guys moving
Speaker 1: off the spot, getting them in pursuit, getting to the perimeter,
Speaker 1: hitting little checkdowns, and they ended up kind of getting
Speaker 1: probably four or five Chuck plays and got a score
Speaker 1: off of it, so that they started to type the
Speaker 1: game up. So I think that's a great point. Fred Is.
Speaker 1: They are big, they are fast, they are physical, but
Speaker 1: they do run a four man front and that means
Speaker 1: they're a little soft on the edges because they're not
Speaker 1: playing like world wide. So like you can get to
Speaker 1: the perimeter with some of that quarterback stuff, and I
Speaker 1: think that would be a good opportunity.
Speaker 2: And you also got to think about it too.
Speaker 5: Man, this is you know the game we plays the
Speaker 5: copycat league, So it's I mean, trust me, whatever's working,
Speaker 5: let's let's let's do it implement it into our stuff.
Speaker 5: So I mean, we understand we have an offense, a
Speaker 5: new offense that we're trying to get implement and make
Speaker 5: our own. But you have to go out there and
Speaker 5: take something that we did in five when you wasn't here.
Speaker 5: Fred I remember when Coach Giz bringing me in early mornings,
Speaker 5: like Tanna, you can run these routes and he will
Speaker 5: give me a list of routes, him and Joe Brow
Speaker 5: and they would they would give me a list of route.
Speaker 5: You know, at the time any receiver will say, yeah,
Speaker 5: but I really felt that I could run every route,
Speaker 5: you know, and we implemented that into our offense and
Speaker 5: it was successful.
Speaker 2: You know, it was very successful.
Speaker 5: So I think right now going forward, we would see
Speaker 5: a lot of that, you know what I mean from
Speaker 5: our offense as well.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm pretty sure he's.
Speaker 5: Gonna be you know, stern with what he knows and
Speaker 5: what he does, but you have to add some things,
Speaker 5: some different wrinkles here and there that has been you know,
Speaker 5: something that has been successful against you know.
Speaker 4: So the funny thing about it, nobody outside of Washington
Speaker 4: is gonna give us a chance to win this game.
Speaker 2: But in my heart, I feel we can be. Mat
Speaker 2: feels better to Yeah.
Speaker 4: It feels better to me than Buffalo almost because it
Speaker 4: was like Buffalo kind.
Speaker 1: Of foreign and they're really faster, you.
Speaker 4: Know, kind of like we make plays off schedule. We
Speaker 4: really got a mynthic to our madness Philadelphia. We know
Speaker 4: the mythic to madness thirty one push Jalen Hurts for.
Speaker 4: We know everything they do. When they try to go
Speaker 4: for a big play, it's gonna be the Devontae Smith.
Speaker 4: They gonna do that at least three times. But luckily
Speaker 4: we got somebody to run with the gingerbread man because
Speaker 4: we got.
Speaker 2: Our own guy.
Speaker 3: So at the end of the day, I'm saying, we
Speaker 3: kind of not this team to a fault.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so too.
Speaker 1: And the other thing I wanted to bring up real
Speaker 1: quick is they are leading their second in the league
Speaker 1: behind Buffalo in terms of turnovers right recovered by the defense.
Speaker 1: So obviously that's something you always talk about. Just being
Speaker 1: smart with the ball. And it's not like they're getting
Speaker 1: a ton of picks, right. I think they have six
Speaker 1: fumbles they recovered, right, But just taking care of the football,
Speaker 1: being aware when you're in the pile. Because we're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about the offense here in a second. I don't
Speaker 1: think their offense is very good right now. No, they clicking,
Speaker 1: they're struggling a little bit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because of the offensive coordinator. Nobody want to talk
Speaker 4: about the offensive coordinator. The defensive coordinator leaving is so important.
Speaker 4: It's gonna take them to we eight to really know
Speaker 4: what they what the coordinators want from them. Of course, defense,
Speaker 4: we mature faster than the offense, so it's a perfect
Speaker 4: time for us to be playing them right now.
Speaker 5: They remind me of us a little bit on offensively
Speaker 5: when it comes to just seeing some things that's going on,
Speaker 5: Like they have big plays here and there.
Speaker 2: The game has just been been dead on.
Speaker 5: You know, the last few swift last killing people. But
Speaker 5: when you watch some of the stuff that's been going on,
Speaker 5: especially when you saw a J. Brown the sideline, you know, harping,
Speaker 5: that all hurts. It shows you that a little frustration
Speaker 5: is that because one or two he might see, he
Speaker 5: might feel like he was open on plays and I'm
Speaker 5: watching those players like, now you want to open.
Speaker 2: That's why he'll throw you the ball. And he's a
Speaker 2: much slower guy.
Speaker 5: I mean he's not that slow, but he's not that
Speaker 5: fast either, So guys play him a little differently than
Speaker 5: they play you know, it's gonna blow the top off,
Speaker 5: you know, I mean your top. I don't know how
Speaker 5: far you back he can run. He canna run back
Speaker 5: with the wind, you know what I mean. So I
Speaker 5: watched him and I say, hmm, you can tell that
Speaker 5: there's a lot of stuff going on offensively that they
Speaker 5: haven't just trying to category it out.
Speaker 3: And he got to think about it.
Speaker 4: Is that God that is God hasn't been part of
Speaker 4: the offense so far, but he kills us. Like, listen,
Speaker 4: if he could play the Washington Commanders Selms games, he'll
Speaker 4: break all the tiny rick because he seems to have
Speaker 4: a comfort level against US.
Speaker 3: Am I wrong about that logan?
Speaker 1: No? I think I think he does a great I
Speaker 1: mean last year he did and then you know it's
Speaker 1: funny though, it's like he's not like a feature of
Speaker 1: the offense in the way that like like Kittle or Andrews.
Speaker 2: And we didn't we didn't cover that tight ends with
Speaker 2: I think we do a better job of that.
Speaker 1: Well, I think we do too, but it's also like
Speaker 1: more of a matchup thing. So what I would say
Speaker 1: a couple of things. Let's talk about the offense. You
Speaker 1: mentioned Swift as being one of the most effective rushers
Speaker 1: right in the NFL. Like, I think they're the second
Speaker 1: leading team, the second best rushing team in the NFL,
Speaker 1: and everyone wants to talk about Swift right by tend
Speaker 1: You brought this up on the show on Thursday on
Speaker 1: the on the Command Center Show.
Speaker 2: Is that offensive line man, They are a bunch of dollars.
Speaker 1: They are they are excellent, act.
Speaker 3: They are scary. They are scary, but I deep as alive,
Speaker 3: don't seem to be scared.
Speaker 2: Of They do play well against him.
Speaker 4: They play well against you. I mean, you gotta realize
Speaker 4: they returning four starters. They only got the right God
Speaker 4: is the only guy they had to step up and
Speaker 4: replace the starter from last year.
Speaker 2: He might be better than the right going they had.
Speaker 1: I was just say, Cam Jergens is the guy you're
Speaker 1: talking about. Comes they brought him into play center. He's
Speaker 1: doing a really good job. He's an undersized guy, not
Speaker 1: a big guy like I forget his name. He's a
Speaker 1: Polynesian guy. Last year, Yeah he's in he's in Detroit now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he excellent guard. But Cam's come in, done a
Speaker 1: nice job, little squirrel. I think that's one of the
Speaker 1: reasons they're kind of leading into the outside zone stuff.
Speaker 1: You're talking about Kelsey one of the best centers in football,
Speaker 1: Lane Johnson one of the best tackles in football. Their guard,
Speaker 1: what's his name, it's right here, Landon Dickerson is hurt
Speaker 1: right now, but if he is healthy, gonna play. He
Speaker 1: is one of the best guards in football. And then
Speaker 1: Jordan my Lott of the guy you're talking about. He's
Speaker 1: a huge man, six ' eight, like I think he's
Speaker 1: three hundred and eighty pounds and moves like a ballerina.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: So they have a really stacked group their tight ends.
Speaker 1: Goddard blockwell, stoles, the other guy blocks well, and they
Speaker 1: just man, they just create lanes versus stacked looks. You're like,
Speaker 1: what the heck is going on the on The thing
Speaker 1: I saw for in the Tampa Bay game quite a
Speaker 1: bit is like they were so worried about hers running
Speaker 1: the ball. They would always set the backer off set
Speaker 1: to the to the same side as the back to
Speaker 1: fight the zone read, and then they would just run
Speaker 1: the ball front side for huge games. So what is
Speaker 1: the plan for the zone read in terms of jail hers?
Speaker 1: As a rusher, how do you stop the outside zone?
Speaker 1: I'd expect to see a lot of Big John Ridgeway,
Speaker 1: a lot of Sinko front in here, because that seems
Speaker 1: to be.
Speaker 4: You cannot wait on it. Yeah, you have to attack
Speaker 4: that zone downhill. You have to blitz, run, blitz that zone.
Speaker 4: You had to get your linebackers on the opposite side
Speaker 4: of the ball because if you run their zone and
Speaker 4: in the linebacker catching he's running back four three four
Speaker 4: yards deep. It ain't gonna work. We have to get
Speaker 4: six people on the other side of the ball. The
Speaker 4: front four we'll do their job, but you have to
Speaker 4: implement two people. I don't care if it's Cam Curl
Speaker 4: in the middle, backer Jamie David, I don't care who
Speaker 4: it is. If you're going to stop the run, you're
Speaker 4: gonna have to do it with six people on the
Speaker 4: other side of the ball.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I want to see it because I feel like that's
Speaker 5: one of the things that's going to probably be the
Speaker 5: thing that they're thinking about coming into this week.
Speaker 2: They thought about Josh Allen.
Speaker 5: The most important thing when you when when you have
Speaker 5: a running back in Swift that's running as well. He's running,
Speaker 5: and then you got to worry about Hurts that he Kentucky.
Speaker 2: It's one of them games. Man.
Speaker 1: What I was what I would say though, real quick,
Speaker 1: is that the most important thing in my estimation in
Speaker 1: this game is stopping the run. Because you mentioned, you
Speaker 1: mentioned DeVante Smith, you mentioned a J.
Speaker 2: Brown.
Speaker 1: Those guys are excellent football players, but right now Hurts
Speaker 1: is having a really hard time seeing the field.
Speaker 2: Seeing the field.
Speaker 1: So if you can stop the run and forced Jalen
Speaker 1: Hurts to win like I saw him throw one of
Speaker 1: the most egregious interceptions versus Minnesota that I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: It's like the linebacker's standing right there and he throws
Speaker 1: it right to He's just not seeing the field.
Speaker 2: Grate right.
Speaker 5: He got three picks in three games, So I mean
Speaker 5: to to last week or two two weeks before, something
Speaker 5: like that is what happened when you get a new coordinator.
Speaker 1: He's escaping the escaping clean pockets. He's doing stuff that
Speaker 1: he just wasn't doing last year. So I think that
Speaker 1: to me, like force like last like last week we
Speaker 1: were talking about how like invite the run, get the
Speaker 1: ball to Josh Allen's hands. This week, to me, it's
Speaker 1: splitting off the run. Get it hurts your hands. And
Speaker 1: if you can do that, I think you're gonna be
Speaker 1: all right. All right, let's get to our next segment.
Speaker 1: All right, advantages Jason or do you want to do
Speaker 1: the other one? But we got okay, let's do I
Speaker 1: need that? Do I need that? And I'm excited about this? Okay,
Speaker 1: So in order to win this football game, order to
Speaker 1: win this football game, yes, the defense needs to give
Speaker 1: you two turnovers. Do you need that? Do you need
Speaker 1: more than that. What's going on?
Speaker 5: I need to more two or more, need more? I
Speaker 5: think you know I'm big on I hop on it
Speaker 5: all each week. You know, win turnover battle. I think,
Speaker 5: especially when you're going into someone's back yard, it's a
Speaker 5: much on the road. I mean, these guys, can you
Speaker 5: know last week we saw that, we learned we lost
Speaker 5: a turnover battle big time and we didn't even scrash
Speaker 5: those guys who we played against because they didn't have
Speaker 5: a fumble and except so it's a must that you
Speaker 5: win the turnover battle when you're going away. I feel
Speaker 5: like it slows things down for them. I mean, I
Speaker 5: think it's a ninety percent chance of whatever that thing
Speaker 5: was that Mike Shanahan told us one at one point
Speaker 5: in time.
Speaker 2: I'm kind of trying to put my thing in cant on.
Speaker 5: I think he said it was a ninety percent chance
Speaker 5: of you coming off with a win if you win
Speaker 5: a turnover back.
Speaker 2: So yep, let's look that up. No, no, no, it's
Speaker 2: it's true. And so I want to turnovers to I
Speaker 2: think two enough, but I need them to be in
Speaker 2: the red zone. In the red zone. I need them
Speaker 2: to take points off the board.
Speaker 4: I need them to do two things. I need them
Speaker 4: to turn the ball over and give it to the offense.
Speaker 4: But I needed to be a fourteen point swing far
Speaker 4: is I really just drove the ball down the field
Speaker 4: and they ended up with zero.
Speaker 2: We took the ball away.
Speaker 4: I needed to happen twice, and I wanted to be
Speaker 4: in the red zone, not the open field.
Speaker 1: Yeah, obviously you want turnovers like that's just good football philosophy,
Speaker 1: right analytically, like Tanna said, ninety percent chance to win
Speaker 1: it when you win a turnover, batt one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: I think it's important this week because I think you're
Speaker 1: gonna get opportunities. I think Jalen Hurts will throw you
Speaker 1: the fall, throw the ball. I think they put the
Speaker 1: ball ball on the ground a couple of times. It's
Speaker 1: from running backs to the quarterbacks. So can you capitalize
Speaker 1: on those opportunities? Punch football out and sometimes you create
Speaker 1: your own luck. But I do think in this in
Speaker 1: this game specifically, he is gonna throw you the ball.
Speaker 1: We talked a lot about the rushing attack for Philly.
Speaker 1: Jamie Davis. I think he's gonna be a big part
Speaker 1: of that.
Speaker 2: Each week.
Speaker 1: I feel like he's just getting better last week. One
Speaker 1: of my favorite plays of the game against against the
Speaker 1: Bills was It's a toss crack. The center tries to
Speaker 1: block him, sith arm, the center, receiver comes, deebo this,
Speaker 1: deebo that receiver and then just absolutely spare the running back.
Speaker 1: He is playing much better football and he's fast. If
Speaker 1: he gets ten tackles, what do you think Is that
Speaker 1: a good thing for this defense? A bad thing for
Speaker 1: this defense? Do you need more? Do you need less?
Speaker 2: What are we talking? I think ten tackles will be good.
Speaker 3: But the question is is he gonna spy?
Speaker 2: Because I watched him spy against Russell Wilson. He looked great. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so do you spy him against Jalen Hurts?
Speaker 4: Because if those ten tackles, is three of those tackle
Speaker 4: for losses own.
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts sack, we win the game.
Speaker 4: Even when he tries to run RPOs how, when he
Speaker 4: has to do anything like That's why I think he
Speaker 4: has to be a spidy game. You have to use
Speaker 4: Jaman as a spy to stop the RPO game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you see what I'm saying, they're married, So yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't really call that a spy though. That's not
Speaker 2: a spy.
Speaker 1: True, it's more just like an alignment that dictates a
Speaker 1: handoff for dad dates or run right, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like, but if he has ten tackles and
Speaker 1: I don't know what you think, I don't mean to cut.
Speaker 2: You off there. My thing is I want him to
Speaker 2: fly around the field, make plays period. You know what
Speaker 2: I mean?
Speaker 5: Ten reddit is gonna be ten tackles or just being
Speaker 5: disruptive as a whole. You know, you got you kind
Speaker 5: of kind of you know, think about it, he said,
Speaker 5: if he has ten tackles, then that means they get
Speaker 5: into the second.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't too much care about all the back.
Speaker 5: I wanted to play on the other side of the
Speaker 5: ball more than I say I want ten tackles from you.
Speaker 2: You know. I just wanted to be one of those disruptives.
Speaker 1: And it'll be interesting to see how he handles the
Speaker 1: outside zone stuff, because I feel like he's been excellent
Speaker 1: versus gap scheme stuff. So like Penn, like you know,
Speaker 1: power counter those any gap attacking runs. He's been downhill,
Speaker 1: he's been physical. I feel like the outside zone stuff
Speaker 1: with the back can kind of pick gets a little bit.
Speaker 1: I don't want to say dicey for him, but the
Speaker 1: whole defense it gets a little bit weird.
Speaker 2: So I think he can use his speed to chase
Speaker 2: those down.
Speaker 4: There's to be his strong point from there, especially when
Speaker 4: he the back on the other side and he running
Speaker 4: sideline and sideline. I think it works in our favor,
Speaker 4: especially with Swift happened to be patient with his own
Speaker 4: like he has to. He has to let the line
Speaker 4: and get to the second level before he make his decision.
Speaker 4: So I think Jamie Davis that had a chance to
Speaker 4: make some plays right there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so too.
Speaker 1: And again he's he's been getting better and better each week,
Speaker 1: and he's a guy that I expect him to be productive.
Speaker 1: But the tennis point, if he's making all these tackles,
Speaker 1: I mean they gally, we're gonna be in a hard time.
Speaker 2: So I think it's gotta be a community effort, all right.
Speaker 1: Terry McLaurin, a lot of people have been talking about targets.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna even give you a number. What is
Speaker 1: the minimum number of targets you think he needs to
Speaker 1: win this football game?
Speaker 4: He has been the achilles Hell to my boy, big
Speaker 4: play slave, who is a MISSIPI stable without How.
Speaker 2: Do you think that is?
Speaker 4: By the way, Well, because we all have people that
Speaker 4: we just don't match your will against, like body wise,
Speaker 4: uh like like like me myself, I love checking Randy Moss, Plexico,
Speaker 4: Terrell Owens and if they tall guys, I could play
Speaker 4: basketball with him. You bring me a Santana Moss.
Speaker 3: Some of these small guys you lose sight of him.
Speaker 4: So I just think when it comes to big play
Speaker 4: Slay and Terry, Terry wins it at the highest point.
Speaker 4: Well that's where Slay get most of his picks from,
Speaker 4: like from the high pointing balls.
Speaker 2: Well, he can't do that against Terry.
Speaker 3: So I would love to see that matchup back and forth.
Speaker 3: I would get Terry.
Speaker 4: I would give Terry literally eight to twelve chances to
Speaker 4: beat Slay.
Speaker 2: And I'm talking about all the best DB's in league,
Speaker 2: like now go balls.
Speaker 3: I want to frustrate them.
Speaker 2: We comebacks first.
Speaker 4: Like the most dangerous route for a guy that can
Speaker 4: get deep is a comeback because you're talking about fifteen
Speaker 4: to seventeen yards every time you catch it going out
Speaker 4: of bounds, not.
Speaker 3: Getting hit, not getting beat up. You do that once
Speaker 3: or twice. Now I'm gonna stick to you tighter, then you.
Speaker 2: Beat me over top. See.
Speaker 5: One of the things that Terry has going for itself
Speaker 5: that a lot of people don't give him credit for.
Speaker 5: He's more like a Steve Smith to me when it
Speaker 5: comes to run the routes. You know, Steve Smith was fast,
Speaker 5: and he was violent, and he was a guy that
Speaker 5: when he ran routes, you know, when he got off
Speaker 5: of press coverage, he might bring the jam to you
Speaker 5: before you brought it to him. Terry is a guy
Speaker 5: that you don't want to see him in the line
Speaker 5: of scrimming. He's not gonna do anything to you when
Speaker 5: it comes to just saying, oh you saw that routy ran. Yeah,
Speaker 5: But when he get up on you, he's gonna, he's gonna,
Speaker 5: he's gonna he's gonna gain game leverage on you quickly.
Speaker 5: And then if you try to put your hands on him,
Speaker 5: he can go by you. He's swimming by you, slapping
Speaker 5: your hand down, and he's just aggressive. He's a guy
Speaker 5: that he would go after any football he doesn't care.
Speaker 5: So when I watched these guys match up together all
Speaker 5: the time, Slay is one of those guys. I watched
Speaker 5: him play Justin Jefferson last year, and he put had
Speaker 5: clamps on Justin, but Jefferson was one and more of
Speaker 5: those for nest type wide receiver.
Speaker 2: It's gonna run routes. He's for that.
Speaker 5: He's a defensive bats not aggressive defensive back. That's why
Speaker 5: Terry to me, always win that matchup. So I think, yeah,
Speaker 5: you want to go out to Terry. You want to
Speaker 5: go out to Terry, but I think more than ten
Speaker 5: ten catches, he needs to score. I need to see
Speaker 5: him in the end zone. I need to see him
Speaker 5: setting us up for scores because I feel like the
Speaker 5: guy that we haven't seen yet that can do some
Speaker 5: of the things very special when it comes to the
Speaker 5: route running and all the other stuff, it's Johann and
Speaker 5: I feel like if we getting Terry gone, then you
Speaker 5: have to get Jahan going also because now he's gonna
Speaker 5: open up things for him because they're gonna try to
Speaker 5: stop bringing attention to him. So more than just talking
Speaker 5: about ten catches, I want to see Terry with a
Speaker 5: score or two, but I want to see, you know,
Speaker 5: us spreading that ball around to how he was a
Speaker 5: couple of weeks ago when we had nine different receivers
Speaker 5: having two or more catches, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I think that that's like this thing is
Speaker 1: like spuriously correlated in my opinion, Like it's not a
Speaker 1: direct correlation, like Terry getting ten targets does I mean
Speaker 1: to win. What it does mean is that the offense
Speaker 1: is going to be healthy. It's moving right, it's they're
Speaker 1: converting on third down, they're being productive. And I think
Speaker 1: when the offense is more efficient, you're gonna see more
Speaker 1: targets for Terry. So it's kind of like a canary
Speaker 1: in the coal mine kind of tistic here. I think
Speaker 1: ten targets are ten opportunities is probably appropriate because it
Speaker 1: means that other things are going.
Speaker 2: Well, we're running the targets, you know what. You're right.
Speaker 2: I wasn't looking at it saying, but why we got
Speaker 2: to send the canar down in the to know we
Speaker 2: shouldn't go we're too deep. No, it's not, it's it's
Speaker 2: the curbon. It's the curb.
Speaker 3: But get what what happens to the dude that's carrying
Speaker 3: the canary?
Speaker 1: Well, because there this is really nerdy because their lungs
Speaker 1: are they operate, they their their respiratory fact faculty is
Speaker 1: so quick. Their breathing rate is so high they die
Speaker 1: before human being die and before you would feel the effect.
Speaker 2: So that's why they picked a canary. And that's brought
Speaker 2: to you by the National Geograph.
Speaker 1: All right, now, this is what I'm excited to hear
Speaker 1: about this. This is gonna be a tough It's gonna
Speaker 1: be a tough one. Chase young Montes sweat getting pressure
Speaker 1: on jail.
Speaker 2: It hurts.
Speaker 1: Sack numbers. You would like to see three is on
Speaker 1: the paper here. Yeah, I don't know if if they
Speaker 1: got one apiece, I'm happy that guy. It's a good
Speaker 1: night for our defensive front.
Speaker 5: I mean, trust me, Like just seeing what these guys
Speaker 5: who can run with the football has done to us.
Speaker 5: It's a plus to just get a sack period, you know,
Speaker 5: And I think hurts. It's more of a threat than
Speaker 5: Josh Allen and the way Josh Allen played at our home.
Speaker 5: But I also think the conditions had a big effect,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Like we talked about the
Speaker 5: conditions is gonna be something for the opposing team. We
Speaker 5: actually had more problems with the conditions then Buffalo. So
Speaker 5: exactly that conditions up there is always you know, like crap.
Speaker 5: Also but I think, you know, being being that we're
Speaker 5: gonna be in Philly or it'd be great to see
Speaker 5: those guys at least a second, because now I know
Speaker 5: we're doing some great things up front. All those guys
Speaker 5: are eating that chopping at the best and they're playing
Speaker 5: some good football.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna switch it all the way up.
Speaker 4: I think it needs to be pain in the aland
Speaker 4: with those three because that inside rush telling me one thing.
Speaker 4: If Paint in the Allen not getting out to the pass,
Speaker 4: that mean we're stopping his own run. We also get
Speaker 4: into the pass in the shortest route to the passes
Speaker 4: right through the A and the B gap. I feel
Speaker 4: like when we rushing, when the Ians rushed with a
Speaker 4: guy like that, and you're gonna get a seck, you're
Speaker 4: probably gonna get a seck chasing him down. So like,
Speaker 4: but if I'm getting it right up the E gu
Speaker 4: I mean we disrupted everything. Yeah, I would think the
Speaker 4: D tackles would be more responsible for winning the game
Speaker 4: than the D ends in this particular game against this
Speaker 4: particular team.
Speaker 1: I agree, And I do think the matchup inside excuse me,
Speaker 1: favors the interior guys, right, Yeah, I think like Landon Dickerson.
Speaker 1: He's got a little nick he might not play.
Speaker 3: And these guys played with Landon Dickerson in Alabama.
Speaker 2: They know he screens me.
Speaker 1: And then the other guy, the smaller guy is uh,
Speaker 1: you know, he's a center. And so I think like
Speaker 1: those matchups, feel get two back back up quote unquote
Speaker 1: guards inside. It's probably better as opposed to Lane Johnson
Speaker 1: on Montese sweat good luck man, that guy's excellent. And
Speaker 1: then Jordani Alata, who is probably a top twelve left
Speaker 1: tackle in football. And again, like I think Chase is
Speaker 1: playing much better, but he's gonna be the best offensive
Speaker 1: lineman that he'll see this year. Yeah, so I think
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be tough.
Speaker 2: I agree with you.
Speaker 1: Probably internal pressure get him this step back out of
Speaker 1: the podect. I will say, though Jalen Hurts holds the
Speaker 1: ever lucky loving heck out of the football, it looks
Speaker 1: like it's very last money.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he was.
Speaker 4: He was in that thing trying to get This is
Speaker 4: what happened when you got to lie like that and
Speaker 4: you just used to having time.
Speaker 5: Because what he used to having that time against this
Speaker 5: D line, were gonna need some stunts here and there too.
Speaker 5: I love that, right, because you know when you talk
Speaker 5: about Lane Johnson, you talk about the other kid on
Speaker 5: the left side. Yeah, but I do want to see
Speaker 5: how guys win against top tier you know, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean, because if you're a top tier end,
Speaker 5: then you need to be winning against top tackles.
Speaker 1: That's actually a really interesting statistic when you look at
Speaker 1: everybody except everybody except for a camp from Miles Garrett, right,
Speaker 1: their statistical production versus top five left tackles in the
Speaker 1: NFL basically normalizes. It's when they go against Nick even
Speaker 1: Nick bos So in the playoff game. Remember last year
Speaker 1: Lane Johnson as a torn aductor. Yeah, I can't even
Speaker 1: move his leg in it out and he locked lock
Speaker 1: down Nick bos Yeah, because that's the difference between an
Speaker 1: elite tackle and a backup. So it's so if for
Speaker 1: all you fans at home, if they don't get sacks
Speaker 1: against Lane Johnson, remember there's four other guys that can
Speaker 1: rush against.
Speaker 2: Let's make sure we rush against those guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, I think that'll be really That's that
Speaker 1: to me is one of the most interesting matchups in
Speaker 1: this game.
Speaker 2: I think so, all right.
Speaker 1: Brian Robinson how many yards run?
Speaker 2: How many yards rushing? Well, how many at let's do attempts?
Speaker 2: How many attempts that's the most important.
Speaker 5: We need twenty twenty five plus attempt twenty five attempts.
Speaker 5: You haven't even got five going into halftime.
Speaker 2: I'm with Town.
Speaker 5: We need twenty five a month if we get if
Speaker 5: he's getting it, if we're in the twenties and b
Speaker 5: Rock rushing the football, I mean we got the ball.
Speaker 5: We s to stay in drives, we're moving.
Speaker 1: You know I was gonna come after you. I was
Speaker 1: gonna come after you, Bro.
Speaker 2: I just feel like it's a must we find that
Speaker 2: that run game.
Speaker 5: I think, you know, I'm not big on saying that
Speaker 5: things need to marry, but I think you do need
Speaker 5: a run game to establish everything else. Because now you
Speaker 5: get those guys out of that zone. Now you can
Speaker 5: put more guys up in the box. Now you find
Speaker 5: those wholes. Now you get the one on one matches
Speaker 5: what you say they like to run one on one anyway,
Speaker 5: to me, I'm a receiver and people always find it odd.
Speaker 2: Tanner. You always talking about, Look, I don't want the
Speaker 2: ball if I'm not open. If they got more encourage
Speaker 2: and run it. You know what I mean. I'm one
Speaker 2: of those guys. Whatever's working, do it, do it.
Speaker 5: So we need to try to established run, which is
Speaker 5: gonna be tough as hell because we know these they
Speaker 5: got to be.
Speaker 2: Then number one will come to the run game, stopping
Speaker 2: the run.
Speaker 5: But I feel like if we're in the twenties and
Speaker 5: we're controlling things we have, we're moving the change, controlling
Speaker 5: the clock, and we're successful with this, so that's going
Speaker 5: to open up other stuff in the past game.
Speaker 4: B Rob is the most important player on the roster
Speaker 4: this week. Weaponizing the running game and making it defensive
Speaker 4: does so much.
Speaker 2: I weaponize that, and this is what I like this,
Speaker 2: this is what I want. If we're running the ball.
Speaker 4: We always said if if he got twenty five TOAs
Speaker 4: that means that the offense is getting first down.
Speaker 2: They're moving the year ago, all right, we're getting Also.
Speaker 4: We weaponized it to the point that jayden Hurst is
Speaker 4: seen over there on the sideline watching b Rob run
Speaker 4: the ball and they go from having ten attempts ten
Speaker 4: drives to six to seven, like so that changes the game.
Speaker 3: If b Rob leaves this game with one hundred yard
Speaker 3: we know.
Speaker 2: How he is. He ain't really that forty yard breaker.
Speaker 2: He ain't there.
Speaker 4: He ten yards in the cloud of us, eight yards
Speaker 4: in the cloud of us six yards and I promise
Speaker 4: you by the fourth quarter, I know how it is.
Speaker 2: It's a defensive back.
Speaker 4: Now you start to we start to wear down, and
Speaker 4: you start to wear us out, and now you get
Speaker 4: over our head.
Speaker 2: With a d bomb.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, like, so this is always gonna get
Speaker 1: after you a little bit, but you got to save
Speaker 1: yourself a.
Speaker 2: Little bit, thank so, my lawyer.
Speaker 1: So when you're rushing the football, it is not indicative
Speaker 1: of good offense, right, It's not an indicative of good offense.
Speaker 1: It's not it's when you possess the football, which Fred
Speaker 1: said though, right. So it's one of the things when
Speaker 1: you look at last year's game in twenty twenty two,
Speaker 1: the second game where they won with Taylor Heidikey, right,
Speaker 1: is they were able to convert on first outs. It
Speaker 1: was third and six, third and eight, third and ten,
Speaker 1: and it was all Terry. Terry did a great job
Speaker 1: of fighting matchups against Sleigh and winning those one on ones,
Speaker 1: and you're able to stay on the field, and then
Speaker 1: a crew more offensive plays, and then a crew more
Speaker 1: rushes right. So I think even though we want to
Speaker 1: be robbed to get a lot of touches, I think
Speaker 1: you need to make sure you're running into advantageous looks.
Speaker 1: So if they're going to stack the box with plus one,
Speaker 1: I don't need that. Can we throw out of those?
Speaker 1: Can we throw a quick game, can we do some
Speaker 1: stuff we move the pocket, can we do play action
Speaker 1: some of that stuff? And I think to Eb's credit,
Speaker 1: he's done a pretty good job in these first couple
Speaker 1: of games of throwing people into cover two shells. And
Speaker 1: then you look at the second half of that game
Speaker 1: and be Rob's avage averaging seven yards to carry. It's
Speaker 1: because they're in light run structures. So I think that's
Speaker 1: kind of what you want to look at here and
Speaker 1: can you work them out of it? And to your point, Fred,
Speaker 1: I think this is also a great point in this game.
Speaker 1: I think you can be a little bit more conservative
Speaker 1: offensively in terms of more rushing attempts, because I have
Speaker 1: a lot of faith, at least today, I do a
Speaker 1: lot of faith that the defense is going to hold
Speaker 1: a jailing hurts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's going to be a.
Speaker 1: Tight scoring affair. So ever heard the same punt to win.
Speaker 1: Has everyone elseid Like, I think that could be a
Speaker 1: philosophy in this game. Possess the football, play the field,
Speaker 1: position game, no turnovers, play a conservative game, take a
Speaker 1: little bit off of Sam Howell, and that is correlated.
Speaker 1: That philosophy is correlated with run of the football. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, I can dig.
Speaker 2: It, dig it.
Speaker 1: So I do think that'll be an interesting thing to
Speaker 1: keep an eye on.
Speaker 2: All right. Now, game predictions, what do we got? All right?
Speaker 2: When it comes to the divisional games, it's hard to predict.
Speaker 4: It's hard to predict. But just like last year we
Speaker 4: went win and one against them. I think we win there,
Speaker 4: they win here. Like it's just one of those things like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I think we played better on the others on the
Speaker 4: enemy's territory because everything is against you.
Speaker 2: I think we win this game twenty to fourteen.
Speaker 1: Twenty to fourteen, all right, So just is a little
Speaker 1: fun statistic because you know, last three games they've scored
Speaker 1: at least twenty five points.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think this was gonna be This is
Speaker 2: gonna be a bar of bloody all right. Here a
Speaker 2: dirty mattress wrestling dirty mattress.
Speaker 3: I used to be part of a dirty Mattress.
Speaker 2: We don't want to hear that boy.
Speaker 5: He never allowed he said apparent list would lie because
Speaker 5: he founds the way to.
Speaker 2: All right. Oh man, I don't want to be the
Speaker 2: guy you think he was the guy last week they
Speaker 2: did lunch.
Speaker 5: I want to see a hard fork game, but I
Speaker 5: think Philly probably edges out of it beat us bout
Speaker 5: three score so.
Speaker 2: Twenty seventeen twenty seven.
Speaker 1: I actually I actually liked that score a lot. I
Speaker 1: don't know, man, The more I watch Philly's offense, the
Speaker 1: less confident you are in that group. And I think
Speaker 1: our defense matches up really well with him. And if
Speaker 1: the offense can come with anything, I think they can
Speaker 1: get away.
Speaker 5: I'm hoping, like, don't get me wrong, man, And I'm
Speaker 5: not the guy. I am the company guy, by the way, company,
Speaker 5: but I am so are really you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: I just feel like, when he's coming off of the
Speaker 5: devastating loss, don't get me wrong, the mojo a little better,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, because we're going against a
Speaker 5: divisional opponent. But I just feel like when it comes
Speaker 5: to what we are doing here, Philly might be a
Speaker 5: little more ahead of the curve than we are offensively.
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, even though both offenses are new,
Speaker 5: I'm just saying, as a team, total product where they quarterback,
Speaker 5: you know, in there quarter I'm just watching a total product.
Speaker 5: They might be a little more ahead of the curve,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. I see a hard four
Speaker 5: match because of the division. But I just say, at
Speaker 5: the end, Yeah, when it's all saying there might be
Speaker 5: seventeen seventeen Philly kicks a field go to win the gain,
Speaker 5: Yeah what about you love me with your prediction.
Speaker 1: Because of that offensive thing, because Philly just doesn't look
Speaker 1: good offensively to me. And I think Jale Hurts is
Speaker 1: going to give you opportunities. And again it's a it's
Speaker 1: a very thin margin.
Speaker 2: For it's a trust way game.
Speaker 1: I think it is a trust I think I think
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a big, big.
Speaker 2: Part of it.
Speaker 5: Listen, I've seen them win games, and I think if
Speaker 5: it's going to be a Trustway game, we need to
Speaker 5: clean up what we Because tres Wells got one block
Speaker 5: the last weeks.
Speaker 2: We will.
Speaker 1: So I would say if they can, it's it's gonna be.
Speaker 1: There's a small window, no doubt, but I think they
Speaker 1: can hit the window. They've shown they can hit the window.
Speaker 1: And I'm expecting this team to come out and play
Speaker 1: a lot better because I remember being coached by you
Speaker 1: being college and you were coached by him at Minnesota.
Speaker 2: He is not gonna be.
Speaker 3: First of all, he don't do well at the losses.
Speaker 3: Like listen to me, he loses.
Speaker 4: I think, like you know how intense he is on
Speaker 4: a regular day, like at the loss, it just eat
Speaker 4: said like it eats because he's like, we left all.
Speaker 2: These plays on the field. He never feels like both lose.
Speaker 2: And I think he's just gonna come out with a
Speaker 2: with a hyper hyper game plan.
Speaker 4: If we can't run right at you, we're gonna make
Speaker 4: you chase us all over the field.
Speaker 1: So this might be a Johann Dotson game, maybe Damy Brown,
Speaker 1: and so that's what I'm feeling. I just don't think
Speaker 1: he's gonna take this laying down. I think it's gonna
Speaker 1: be super close.
Speaker 3: And I don't want to live.
Speaker 2: I don't I know, you don't know, I know, but.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking it like twenty one twenty four, like a
Speaker 1: like a gross like punch in the mouth ball possession. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that's what that's what it feels like to me.
Speaker 1: And I think he's gonna get those guys rocky boat
Speaker 1: of it, and maybe that maybe that maybe dude, yeah,
Speaker 1: just standing.
Speaker 2: Punch each other in the face giving it to him,
Speaker 2: fitting rock queshing.
Speaker 1: So I think Washington's gonna win. And again it's a
Speaker 1: small window. And maybe that's the fan in me coming out.
Speaker 1: But I just I just got a feeling, and sometimes
Speaker 1: you just got to go with your feeling.
Speaker 2: I got it last week.
Speaker 1: Last week, I didn't feel it this week.
Speaker 2: I feel it the guy weeknd.
Speaker 1: Okay, here we go, all right, so now for our
Speaker 1: last segment of the show, it's well actually by Logan
Speaker 1: Paulson because I will actually you quite a bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you do it.
Speaker 1: So you said something at the beginning of the show, Dana,
Speaker 1: and I think you were here for it. No, no,
Speaker 1: he said something. You You're always very measured and thoughtful
Speaker 1: with what you say. No, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you said that. What did you say that Philadelphia has
Speaker 1: the is the only state.
Speaker 3: That has a imaginary statue of a man?
Speaker 1: Yeah, imaginary statue of a fictitious person. Right, So I've
Speaker 1: got a list in front of him. Hey, I'm just
Speaker 1: I want our viewers to be well informed about statues.
Speaker 3: Tails besides Yoda inside.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go I'm just gonna go through the
Speaker 1: list and you can tell me and you can tell
Speaker 1: me whether this meets your criteria, yes or no.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay.
Speaker 1: There's a statue of Superman in Metropolis, Illinois.
Speaker 2: And he is an alien.
Speaker 1: He is an alien, but he's a fictitious person.
Speaker 2: He's not from Earth, he's from Crypton.
Speaker 3: He's not a man.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, next one, this one's kind of cool. Actually,
Speaker 1: I kind of want to check this out. RoboCop in Detroit, Michigan.
Speaker 2: He half machine, but.
Speaker 1: He is half Okay, all right, half machine half machine. Okay, Wow,
Speaker 1: this one is cool. I didn't know this was a thing.
Speaker 1: Sherlock Holmes on Baker Street in London, England.
Speaker 3: I say this not in America.
Speaker 4: We said America. That was the quateria I knew, Holmes.
Speaker 4: I was like, they cannot He's not American, he's not America.
Speaker 1: But he would meet your criteria for like a human.
Speaker 3: But is chanlack Holmes a fictation's character?
Speaker 1: It was it? Actually he's a fictitious character.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, get what he are European.
Speaker 1: We're all right, Rocky, obviously, we've talked about that one. Okay,
Speaker 1: Paddington Bear, statue of Paddington Bear. He's a bear, Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, Okay, this one, I don't even know who
Speaker 1: this guy is. Let's skip that one, all right.
Speaker 2: We got.
Speaker 1: Lego statue of Nick Wilde, who is a fox from
Speaker 1: that show. God, I can't even remember my kids cartoon
Speaker 1: character Dick Tracy, Dick Tracy.
Speaker 2: Where is he in l A.
Speaker 1: No, He's in Illinois, Illinois, Dick Tracy, Dick Tracy.
Speaker 4: But nobody runs up to the Dick Tracy statue in
Speaker 4: John around and does it.
Speaker 2: What are you talking about?
Speaker 1: The other one that I think is really interesting is
Speaker 1: Captain Kirk. Captain Kirk is a fix. He's a human being,
Speaker 1: but he's not you.
Speaker 4: I see one one show where Cam Kirk was chilling
Speaker 4: on Earth. Cavin Kirk had dated nothing but aliens. He
Speaker 4: dated like different species. So what I'm seeing Cam Kirk.
Speaker 1: Is not American, but his statue is in America, South Dakota, right,
Speaker 1: So that's good. Yeah, I don't know the code. Yeah,
Speaker 1: wherever he's from in the movie Iowa. Yeah, thank you.
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