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Come up with the poll question, 10 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: play the day, stat of the Day, all of that forthcoming. 11 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: The Niners quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo said yesterday that he's ready 12 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: to roll with the punches and help his team this season. 13 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: And I'm not sure what else he can say, because 14 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: the Niners traded up, traded a lot to get that 15 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: number three pick to take Trey Lance, and Jimmy g 16 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: is not alone. I started doing inventory here with the 17 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 1: quarterbacks veteran quarterbacks in the same position, Cam Newton with 18 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: Mac Jones in New England, Andy Dalton with Justin Fields 19 00:00:56,000 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: in Chicago. And it's an interesting position here. Remember season 20 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: with Ryan Fitzpatrick. He was playing well and then all 21 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: of a sudden, the team goes we got to find 22 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: out if Tua can play, so they take him out 23 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: for Tuah or you can go back to the Giants 24 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:13,839 Speaker 1: when they pulled the future Hall of Famer Kurt Warner 25 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: to give a young Eli Manning a shot at just 26 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: the way the NFL goes. But what if Garoppolo and 27 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:24,839 Speaker 1: the Niners are actually good this upcoming season. They should 28 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 1: be a lot of injuries and only two years removed 29 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: from a Super Bowl appearance here, but maybe that's a 30 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: dilemma of the Niners. Wouldn't mind facing Here is Jimmy 31 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: G talking about being able to be that team player 32 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 1: but also ready to battle for a starting role. He's 33 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: gonna come in here. I know it's gonna be the 34 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: competition between us like it was with me and Tom 35 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: and I got Jet in New England. But you know, 36 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, all you could answer 37 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: is the opportunity. And so once they said you'll have 38 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: the opportunity to start this year and you play it out, 39 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: I was all for it. I'm ready for the position, 40 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: and that's what we're here for. I was surprised to 41 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: hear him on radio, but they congrats to those shows 42 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: who got Jimmy G. But I thought he's been pretty 43 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 1: much radio silent through all of this. And I don't 44 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: think he's a big promoter of himself. I don't think 45 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: he's done too much nationally. Maybe locally he has his 46 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: show most quarterbacks do. I was surprised at that Brett Fire, 47 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: by the way, weighed in on the Aaron Rodgers situation. 48 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: And here is Brett Fire from his podcast about Aaron 49 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: Rodgers returning to Green Bay one. And I think I 50 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: know him fairly well. If he has a grudge, whether 51 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: it be against the organization or a player, or an 52 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: arts rival or family friends, he ain't budget. I don't 53 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: see him coming back and saying if this is not resolved, however, 54 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: whatever the issue is, if it's not resolved, or even 55 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: if it's resolved, but he feels like they got one 56 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: up on him, he play. I like how far snuck 57 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: in family and friends, because that has been an issue 58 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: with a Let's see, are we two girlfriends remove from 59 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: Olivia mund and I think that there was an issue 60 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 1: with him dating her according to reports, with his family 61 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: and he kind of froze them out. Welcome to the 62 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: program here, Happy Cinco de Mayo, by the way, and yes, 63 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: the Danets, spoiled little brats that they are. They wanted 64 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: to have some kind of food here. I said, no 65 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: Margarita's during the show, but we will have some tacos. Yes, yeah, 66 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: didn't you smell what was you know? With Tyler was 67 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: cooking today. I'm glad that all of our stomping our 68 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: feet yesterday and complaining about it worked out for today. 69 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: That was great. Yeah, yeah, I heard you. I heard 70 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: you loud and clear. We got the traggers fired up 71 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: and we got some tacos. I think that he's creating there. Yes, yes, 72 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: Is it May six the best stay the year to 73 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: go to a Mexican restaurant? Yeah? Not busy. Yeahs. May 74 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: on March eighteenth is when you want to go to 75 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: an Irish pub. And then Fritzie goes, can we have 76 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: the beer Breis chicken tacos with halopeno relish? And I said, yes, 77 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: you can, dreams and that's what we'll have today, beer 78 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: Breis chicken tacos with halopenio relish. That will be a 79 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: little bit later on today eight seven seven three d 80 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: P show email address DP at dan Patrick dot com, 81 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: Twitter handle at DP show. Adam Schefter as a podcast, 82 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 1: And I was curious if he knew who leaked this 83 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: story about Aaron Rodgers, because when I first heard it, 84 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: I go, Okay, did Rogers say this? And the fact 85 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: that you know, CHEFTI is not saying who leaked it, 86 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 1: but he it was leaked to him. Wouldn't that be 87 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 1: easy to find out who leaked this to me? You 88 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 1: would just go, oh, it's the person who told me 89 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 1: that Aaron, uh, you know, he wants to be traded, 90 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: that he can't stay in Green Bay. But do the 91 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: Packers gain anything by leaking this? Does Rogers come off 92 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: as petty by leaking this? Can the Packers then make 93 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: Rodgers seem like the bad guy? Here? Are they trying 94 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 1: to curry favor public sentiment? I'm just wondering that, And 95 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: you know, Cheft, he's kind of looking at both sides here, 96 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 1: and I'll play the cut for you when we get that. 97 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: But you know, I would think Aaron Rodgers or somebody 98 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: close to Aaron Rodgers is going to put this out there. 99 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: The Packers reportedly are very upset that this got out there, 100 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: sort of like the Seattle Seahawks were when Russell Wilson 101 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: said what he said. But we know Russ was the 102 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 1: source of that. We don't know that with Aaron Rodgers, 103 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: and I think it's just kind of status quo here 104 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: until Rogers comes on a show or says something publicly, 105 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 1: says something in a press release. Fritzie call for Aaron Rodgers. 106 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: Oh you have okay, thank you, Todd. We're joking, but 107 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: I got I got a very nice note pretty quickly saying, 108 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: you know, so noted as far as we're aware of that. Okay, 109 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: we did get a reaction, was it it's so noted 110 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 1: or duly noted? I think it was so noted with 111 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 1: like an exclamation point, like you know, enthusiastically at when 112 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 1: the time is right. But who did you who'd you 113 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: ask the packers? No? Oh, okay, that would be a representation. 114 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 1: Did you ask the packers if we could have somebody 115 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: from the organization? We requested the head coach and mister 116 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 1: goodakoots okay, the GM okay, yeah. Point. If you're Rogers, though, 117 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: you can't do an interview unless you know your direction, 118 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: because if he goes on with you or whoever may be, 119 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: you're gonna say, will you will you be a packer 120 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: next year? What would it take to be all the 121 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 1: questions you're gonna ask, and unless he has that declarative 122 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: statement ready, he can't do it. I'm guessing he knows 123 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: what he wants because we've gotten to this stage. This 124 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: is this has been an open secret. I mentioned yesterday 125 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: or the day before, back in January. The Rams knew 126 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:10,559 Speaker 1: that Rogers could be available. That's why they first knocked 127 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: on that door and said, hey, hello, Aaron Rodgers, we 128 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: opened for business. No. Then they traded for Matthew Stafford. 129 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: San Francisco knew. I think there were teams who knew 130 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: because they had friends in the Packers organization who probably said, hey, 131 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: you can give him a call, but the Packers have 132 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: shut down those calls, and the Rams went after Matthew 133 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: Stafford after they couldn't get Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, MC club, 134 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: you know, about six weeks ago you came in and 135 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: said something's going on in Green Bay. You said, I 136 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: don't know exactly. You didn't want to label the report completely, 137 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: but so you had a whiff of something big. I 138 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: had a source who said, it's laughable to think that 139 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: he'll be there in Green Bay after this next season, 140 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: and I couldn't get any confirmation from anybody, And and 141 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: so I was like, okay, and my source, you know, 142 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: then resurface to say, you know, there's a whole lot 143 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: going on here, and you know it's a source who 144 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: helped me with Russell Wilson. I said, is it similar 145 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: to Russell Wilson? He goes, no, this is bad, Like 146 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: this is a bad situation for everybody here. You know, 147 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: is Rodgers gonna do a power move and get himself 148 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: out of there? You know, what are the packers get 149 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: in return? Can you trade Aaron Rodgers? Do you want 150 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: to be the GM who traded Aaron Rodd? Like there's 151 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 1: so much going on now and the and the problem 152 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: I think is is you don't have any real clarity 153 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: from either side. I mean, the clarity from the packers 154 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: is we're not trading him. We need to have an 155 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: understanding what Aaron Rodd. I think Aaron Rodgers owes that 156 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: to the situation, I give you one out, then ask out. 157 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: But it sort of lingers there and I don't think 158 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: it's beneficial to anybody here. It's like when Deshaun Watson 159 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: was saying, I'm not going back to Houston and I'm 160 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: not going to play there anymore, and then we started 161 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,839 Speaker 1: to go, okay, so where are you going? And then 162 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: we started to speculate. Then he had his legal issues 163 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: and it stopped. But that doesn't mean it's still not there. Like, 164 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 1: there are teams. There's two teams right now, I'm told 165 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,839 Speaker 1: who are just sort of letting like they're monitoring this 166 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 1: closely with Deshaun Watson. They just want to know is 167 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 1: there an opening and can you get through that PR 168 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: hit that you're going to take. If Deshaun Watson is 169 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:39,359 Speaker 1: not chart criminal charges, even civil charges, teams will probably 170 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: try to motor through that, push that through, you know, 171 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: take the PR hit and then move forward. You know, 172 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: Deshaun has said that he's a changed person or whatever. 173 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: If he's found guilty in these civil lawsuits, whatever it is, 174 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: the spin will be there because Watson is so good. Now, 175 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: what do you do with Aaron Rodgers? What can you 176 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: get for Aaron Rodgers? Who wants Aaron Rodgers right now? 177 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: And I think those are key questions here, But until 178 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: I hear from Aaron Rodgers sources close to doesn't really 179 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: register with me. I want to know what Rogers is 180 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: feeling right now, what he's thinking right now, yeah, Paul, 181 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 1: going back to Deshaun Watson right now, if you ran 182 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: the Texans, wouldn't you lean towards trading him if you 183 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: could find one strong offer That franchise is going nowhere. 184 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: They have very little talent on the roster. Hit the 185 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: reset button in every sense of the word. And I 186 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: don't think the fans would hit you too much now 187 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: if you did it before the allegations. You've been crushed 188 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: to let him go. But I was told yesterday, as 189 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: strange as this is going to sound, with Deshaun Watson, hey, 190 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 1: if you're the Texans, you might be able to now 191 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: keep him because he knows that he would be damaged 192 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 1: goods and the Texans won't take a pr hit. They're 193 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: just standing behind their player. We truly believe in him, 194 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 1: and so the Texans could actually benefit here whether this 195 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: happens or not. And once again, you know, you get 196 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: a lot of information, and I always try to find 197 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: if somebody else can back up something, you know, And 198 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: that's why with Rodgers. Rob Demoski has covered the Packers 199 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: for a couple of decades now. He was there when 200 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: FARV was there and when he said, look less than 201 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: five percent that Aaron Rodgers is the starting quarterback for 202 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: the Packers. I'll believe it when I see it, because 203 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 1: Rogers nose and the Packers no. This is the best 204 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: chance for him to win a Super Bowl. You're not 205 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,839 Speaker 1: winning one in Denver, You're not going to win one 206 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: with the Raiders. You still have a chance to go 207 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: back to the NFC title game. You have a good 208 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: team and I think they had a pretty good draft 209 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 1: by all accounts. Can you can you move past this? 210 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 1: And I think that's going to be based off of 211 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: Aaron's personality. Can he get past this? Is he going 212 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 1: to hold a grudge? Are they going to give him 213 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: a contract extension? Because if you do, how long are 214 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 1: you tied into Aaron Rodgers? What's that mean for Jordan Love? 215 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: Do you eventually say we made a mistake. We bet 216 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 1: against Aaron Rodgers, we drafted his successor, and Jordan Love 217 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 1: is the third string quarterback right now? Not ready to play? Yeah? Play. 218 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 1: Packers are fourth in Vegas odds for the Super Bowl 219 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 1: next year. The Denver Brocos a week ago were eighth 220 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: from the bottom, but they moved up significantly off off 221 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: of the quarterback. Yeah. I think their odds are like 222 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 1: a third or fourth to get Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, mclovin, 223 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,719 Speaker 1: doesn't it seem not that Tom Brady with forty three 224 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: right when he won the Super Bowl. Now people view 225 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: the age a little differently. Maybe it's just fans view, 226 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: but like, I'm like signed Rodgers for four more years. 227 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: But I don't know if like he's wired differently than Brady. 228 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 1: This is all Brady wants to do. He just wants 229 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: to play football. Aaron Rodgers, it feels like, as we've 230 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: seen with Jeopardy, he strikes me as somebody who's going 231 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 1: to be in involved in Hollywood some way, movies, documentary, something. 232 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. I just I don't think he's one 233 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 1: of those guys that it is defined by football. I 234 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: just think he's great at football. Yeah and yeah, Like 235 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: you never heard Tom Brady say like if it doesn't 236 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: work out with the Patriots, I'm retiring. You know, he 237 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: was like, I'm playing, I'm gonna play somewhere else then 238 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: forget it. But you know, Aaron Rodgers doesn't seem to 239 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: be cut from that same cloth. Tom Brady was willing 240 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: to play for the Bears. That'll give you an idea. 241 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: He just wanted to play football. So it was the Chargers, Bears, 242 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: and Buccaneers. Those were the three teams interested in Tom. Yeah, mcclub. Yeah. 243 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: But the guy who says that he's not he doesn't 244 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 1: need football, that's a guy who always waffles around. Play's 245 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: forty two. Like Farve started retiring when he was thirty 246 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: five and played till he was forty. I don't feel it, 247 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: but but Farv was like sugar Ready Leonard, Sugar Ray 248 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 1: Leonard retired six times. I was at his first one 249 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: in Baltimore, and he kept retiring. Farve is like the 250 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: boxer who who just can't retire, because what are you 251 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: gonna do to throw passes to Jerry Rice in the 252 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 1: backyard for a TV commercial? Like you, Once it's gone, 253 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: it's gone, and then you look around and you go, 254 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: oh my god, boy, this was my life. Aaron Rodgers 255 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: strikes me as I'm I'm entering a new world here, 256 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: getting married, you have kids, priorities, it changes. Does he 257 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: want to continue to play football? He just strikes me 258 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: as he's just different. Yeah. Point, that's the one thing 259 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: I think normal people, I guess you'd call us, can't 260 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: understand about athletes Chris Weber, remember the great basketball player. 261 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: He retired at thirty four years old. That's a young man. 262 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: And you know he wasn't like injuries, it wasn't concussions. 263 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: It was just there, my career is done thirty four. 264 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: You's about just getting started with the good days of 265 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: their career. Damn, when you were thirty four, you were 266 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: hitting your stride as a sports center host, you were 267 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: on the upswing. These guys are are wrapping things up 268 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: at thirty five, thirty six, but they're doing something physically 269 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: that they've done for twenty years. And and it's like 270 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: Bjorn Borg at twenty six. He walked away twenty six 271 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: and he was still winning Wimbledon. It's Bjorn Borg is 272 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: like Jim Brown. Jim Brown walked away. I think he 273 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: led the league in rushing and he retired. I think 274 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: I think he ran for like eighteen hundred yards and 275 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: he decided he was, Hey, I'm done with this. I'm 276 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: gonna go make movies. Certain guys they're just wired differently. 277 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: Barry Sanders wired differently, the guy who has to compete. 278 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: I'm defined by this, you know, Andrew Luck wired differently. 279 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: I think Aaron Rodgers and Andrew Luck are wired in 280 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: a similar way. Oh good wiring. Thank you, Thank you Andrew. 281 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: By the way, this program brought to you by M drive, 282 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: the supplement I take every day powerful ingredients back by signs, 283 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: I get energy, stronger, leaner. Go to M drive dan 284 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: dot com today, get free shipping, sixty day money back guaranteed. 285 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: Don't let age beat you. rEFInd your prime with M drive. 286 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: What's the poll question you have for me today? McLevin, Okay, 287 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: got a few options. Often to Jimmy g quote about 288 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: how he's going to help Trey Lance in San Francisco. 289 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: Honest answer, if you're a veteran quarterback, do you help 290 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: the rookie? Yes or no? Help the rookie. I'm going 291 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: to hold off on my answer all the way to 292 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: after the commercial break, we'll talk about that. What else 293 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: do you have? Okay, I have a choice either an 294 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: NBA one or a Astros. Okay, the Astros pole will 295 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: probably get some juicy response, a little payback, little payback 296 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: time for the Astros last night, Just a little payback 297 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: because it's nobody got suspended. You know, nobody lost anything, 298 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: you know with the Astros, nobody lost their World Series rings. Nothing. 299 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: So you have a couple of guys who were still 300 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: with the team who were cheaters back in twenty seventeen. 301 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: So they faced the music last night at Yankee Stadium, 302 00:16:53,840 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: and this is what it sounded like. That would be 303 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: the F word, n L two fe. I just think 304 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: it's nice that Yankees fans censored themselves like that, and 305 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: they did in the stadium that because you know, just 306 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: a little decorum that was, you know, and is the 307 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 1: Afford is not his first name? Right? That's not his 308 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: actual first name. It seems like it is these days. Yeah, yes, ton, 309 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 1: If you're al two, do you grin? Do you pretend 310 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: you don't hear it when it's obvious that you certainly 311 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: hear it? Like, what do you do when you get 312 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 1: up to the plater they're screaming that. I would say, 313 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 1: hit a home run like that. That would be the 314 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: best way to go about it. You hit a home run. 315 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: It was entertaining last night. There's only ten thousand fans there. 316 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: Michael Kay, the Yankee broadcaster, will join us coming up 317 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: a little bit later on. We'll talk about that atmosphere 318 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: there last night. And Dusty Baker's just got to stop. 319 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 1: The manager of the astros. We know, Dusty, you weren't there. 320 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,239 Speaker 1: We know most of the players who were on the 321 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: team now weren't there. Just don't address it, all right, 322 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: take it, take take the heat. It's not you, it's 323 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: your players. Take the bullets. Move on. You're okay. If 324 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 1: the worst case scenario is, hey, they're saying mean things 325 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,919 Speaker 1: about our team even though we got away with cheating, 326 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: all right, I would just shut up and just manage 327 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: a baseball game. Don't go into each city and you know, 328 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: try to do a preemptive strike of like, hey, you 329 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,360 Speaker 1: know there's only a couple of players that they're still 330 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: left here. Yeah, we know that, but but the main 331 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 1: culprits are there. Bragman Correa, al twove. Yes, al Tuoba 332 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: is doing himself no favors that twenty seventeen season where 333 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: they're proving to be cheating. He hit three forty six 334 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 1: twenty four homers. He was the MVP in the past 335 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: two seasons combined, He's hitting about two twenty seven almost 336 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 1: no power, no on base percentage. We'll take a break, 337 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 1: we'll settle on a pull question. I'll bring you a 338 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: clip from Adam Schefter's podcast on Rogers or the packers 339 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 1: who leaked this information. We'll talk about the payback tour 340 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 1: for the astros. We need to come up with like 341 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 1: some kind of you know, this is what I was thinking. 342 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: Could we make a garbage can cuzy that you could 343 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,199 Speaker 1: take in like you could put it there when you 344 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 1: walk in to your stadium and you and you put 345 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: your beer in it. It's just it looks like a 346 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 1: garbage can. It's a couzy. What do you think, gold Satan, 347 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: what do you think? Love it? All right, we'll get 348 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: we'll get the assembly line fired up here. Tyler, Yeah, 349 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: the Tyler get get working on that. By the way, 350 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 1: new t shirts. Love the Chicago Bears related t shirt 351 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: there on the website. Coming up on twenty one after 352 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 1: the hour. It's called Soldier Fields. Soldier Fields. Yeah, look 353 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 1: sharp too. All right, we'll take a break. We're back 354 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: after this and The Dan Patrick Show. Thanks for listening 355 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 1: to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch 356 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 1: us live every weekday morning nine to noon Eastern or 357 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your 358 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: local station for The Dan Patrick Show at Fox Sports 359 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: Radio dot com, or stream us live every day on 360 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app by searching f s R or stream 361 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: us live on the Peacock Act. Let's bring in Matt Miller. 362 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 1: Maybe we don't need you, Matt. Did we just steal 363 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: all your draft thunder for next year? Yeah? I think so. 364 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: Mclovin's got it. I mean you might want to keep him, 365 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 1: give him a race. ESPN is gonna try to give 366 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: him my job with all that dark coorse quarterbacks. Come on, okay, 367 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: over under five quarterbacks taken in the first round next year? 368 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,360 Speaker 1: Are you going over or under? I think that's right 369 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: on the money. I will say this, I have fourteen 370 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: quarterbacks rated already for next year, fourteen legitimate quarterbacks, not 371 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 1: to mention the two that I have to add to 372 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: my list thanks to Andrew. Fourteen quarterbacks a lot more 373 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: than they were in last year's class men. We re 374 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 1: see eight drafted, so I wouldn't be surprised if we 375 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: see more quarterbacks drafted. But we haven't seen six in 376 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: the first round yet. So maybe next year is the year. 377 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 1: But there's not that clear cut Trevor Lawrence type guy 378 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: headed to the year. It'll be a lot of players 379 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:10,199 Speaker 1: who have to develop and ascend, whether that's you know, 380 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: Sam Howell North Carolina. After losing his top two receivers 381 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: and top two running backs, Keen Slovis has a ton 382 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: of playmakers around him. His offensive line is gonna be 383 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: a little bit young, but there's not that established big 384 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: name right now. All right, run down some of the 385 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: other quarterbacks here. At least we can keep an eye 386 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 1: on this upcoming season. Well. I don't want to inflate 387 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: your ego too much here, Dan, but you hit the 388 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 1: nail on the head with Carson Strong. That's my dude 389 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 1: for next year. And I thought he was going to 390 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: be the guy where I would get to come in 391 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: here in like August and puff my chest out of 392 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 1: this quarter He's good though, six foot four, two twenty, 393 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: He's got a huge arm. He can do enough off platform. 394 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: I hate comparing players when they have the same name. 395 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: It feels lazy. But when you watch him, you see 396 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 1: a lot of Carson Wentz like. He's a big quarterback 397 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: with a big arm and good mobility. So I would 398 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 1: not be surprised if he ends up the number one 399 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: quarterback next year. Spencer Rattler has been in Oklahoma it 400 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: feels like forever, but he's actually just a third year player. 401 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: If you're looking for this year's Kyler Murray or Zach Wilson, 402 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 1: the undersized quarterback who's just gonna run around in the 403 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 1: pocket and make crazy things happen. I think Spencer Rattler 404 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: is one of those players. Malik Willis at Liberty is 405 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 1: another mclovan mentioned. He's Malik Willi six one, two ten. 406 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 1: He is an electric athlete, probably has the strongest army 407 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: next year's class, but then they're kind of your traditional 408 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 1: power Sam Howe at North Carolina. Phil Jerkovic who transferred 409 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,239 Speaker 1: from a Notre Dame to Boston College and looks like 410 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,199 Speaker 1: he will be an NFL level quarterback. So plenty of 411 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: guys to fall in love with between now and Labor 412 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 1: Day when we kick this thing back off. Looking back 413 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 1: on the draft, which team change the most with the 414 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 1: NFL Draft? I think Carolina And you have to include 415 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: the Sam Arnold trade in there, so they've got a 416 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: new quarterback. They added a very good corner in jac 417 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: Horne in the first round, got Terris Marshall junior wide 418 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: receiver in the second round, Brady Christian sent a tackle 419 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 1: in the third, and then I thought they really cleaned 420 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: up on Day three, Chuba Hubbard will play. We know 421 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey is going to move around. He got hurt 422 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 1: last year. Mike Davis had to step in a lot. 423 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: I think Davean Nixon, the d tackle from Iowa, he's 424 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: gonna play. And they drafted a long snapper, Thomas Fletcher 425 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,719 Speaker 1: from Alabama, so we know he's gonna play. I mean, 426 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 1: they got six or seven contributors in this first draft 427 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 1: for Scott Fitterer. But I always look at strategy. I 428 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:30,199 Speaker 1: don't necessarily look at the player. It's like the Raiders 429 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:34,360 Speaker 1: with taking Alex Leatherweight, like where you took him, it's 430 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 1: not him as much as where you took him. You know, 431 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: the Steelers taken Naji Harris, Okay, did you need to 432 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: take him there? You know Carolina decided not to take 433 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: Justin Fields or Mac Jones. You know that they were 434 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: gonna go with Sam Darnold, who, if he plays well, 435 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: is going to cost him an awful lot. Like did 436 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: you understand whose strategy did you question and whose strategy 437 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: did you praise? I mean my job is to question 438 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,360 Speaker 1: everyone's strategy almost right. I mean, we can't even start 439 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: with San Francisco. Hell, we can start with the New 440 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 1: York Jets, it'd be like, you know, is Zach Wilson 441 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: going to be better than Sam Darnold? Did you give 442 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: enough framework is structure around him that that's actually gonna work? 443 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,640 Speaker 1: Historically New York Jets quarterbacks don't pan out, So if 444 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,439 Speaker 1: you want to bet on who's gonna bust, you just 445 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: play the odds and take the Jets quarterback. But you know, 446 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 1: the Niners gave up the historical amount of draft capital. 447 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: The researchers the ESPN told me that's the most a 448 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: team has given up for a quarterback since Washington traded 449 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 1: up for RG three. We know how that worked with 450 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,199 Speaker 1: the Shanahans. So that's a lot of draft capital to 451 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: give up. And then I thought, after Trey Lan, San 452 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 1: Francisco reached for Aaron Banks, who's a good player, they 453 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: reached for Ambrey Thomas in the third round. I don't 454 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: know anyone who had a third round grade on him, 455 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 1: and they traded up to take a running back who's 456 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 1: been a hurt every time he's touched the football, basically 457 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 1: in Trey Sermon. Then they drafted another running back and 458 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 1: Elijah Mitchell. So for all of the like we get 459 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 1: stars in our eves. When we think about John Lynch 460 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: and Kyle Shanahan, they've had one winning season, and I 461 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: think outside of Trey Lance, who I loved, that was 462 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 1: a very u actionable draft for them. And that's something 463 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: that remember. This team drafted CJ. Bethard in the third round, 464 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 1: Joe Williams in the third round after he had basically 465 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 1: retired at Utah, and so they have not done a 466 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: great job outside of George Kittle with their mid round picks, 467 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: which is where you have to build your team. So 468 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: I think you can question their strategy. I liked washington 469 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: strategy to be honest, to not take a quarterback at night, 470 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: or not to trade up from nineteen to get a 471 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: quarterback to give up a future first round pick. Where 472 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: next year's draft looks to be a lot deeper, there's 473 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,400 Speaker 1: gonna be a lot more information, So teams like the Giants, 474 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: the Eagles. Eagles will have three first round picks next year, 475 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 1: the Giants will have two, The Dolphins will have to 476 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: Those teams are loaded for next year where the draft 477 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: looks deeper, You're gonna have a full college football season. 478 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 1: We're gonna be able to go into schools we're gonna 479 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: have a combine, So I would have rather had more 480 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: picks for two twenty two and less for twenty twenty one. 481 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 1: Let me propose this to you, And I'm wondering if 482 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 1: I could have an honest answer out of Kyle Shanahan. 483 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: If I said, prior to making the deal with the Dolphins, 484 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:06,120 Speaker 1: keep those draft picks and you can trade for Aaron Rodgers. 485 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: That's what I've been saying. That's I've been saying it 486 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: to anyone who listened to me. You had to have 487 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 1: done your due diligence before Thursday, which is when everyone 488 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: saying that that call took place. I was standing with 489 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 1: Adam Scheffer when he broke the news, and it does 490 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: not sound like this is something that just happened Thursday 491 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: morning and Adam decided to break it. It It sounds like 492 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 1: this has been an ongoing situation, you know. But who 493 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 1: has benefited? Though? Why Why would somebody leak this? Chefty said, 494 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 1: it's not Rogers, it's not the Packers, So I don't 495 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: know I A benefits. Why would you leak this? Not? Why? Right? 496 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I think you leak at day of the 497 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: draft because you're hoping someone will make that phone call 498 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: and the pressure of the deadline will call some action. 499 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 1: But I to your point in San Francisco should have 500 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 1: been calling every day. If you could have had Aaron 501 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 1: Rodgers for three first round picks, you have to do it. 502 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: He's a NorCal guy. He wanted to be drafted by 503 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: your organization originally, and my conspiracy theory was that's where 504 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 1: he would end up after the twenty twenty one seasons. 505 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: So that got blown to bits. But I do think 506 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: that yes, you should have been calling, and a lot 507 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: of other teams should have as well. I mean, obviously 508 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,640 Speaker 1: the Chicago Bearers the Packers are not going to trade 509 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,199 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers there, but every other team maybe outside of 510 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: Kansas City, the Chargers and the Bills, but the Ms 511 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: the Rams made a call in January, like they kicked 512 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 1: the tires in January before they made the deal with 513 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford. Yeah, it does feel like teams got impatient, 514 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 1: though even you could even say San Francisco got impatient 515 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: by trading up when they did to give up what 516 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 1: they did. I don't think Atlanta was going to draft 517 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: Trey Lance. We know since Natti was not going to 518 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 1: draft Trey Lance, did you have to get to three. 519 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: I know that they'll come out and say, we needed 520 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 1: to get to three so we can control the process, 521 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,199 Speaker 1: so that we could put these guys through all the 522 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 1: tests and everything. I still think they overpaid. Great to 523 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: visit with you, Matt, Thanks for joining us, and we'll 524 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 1: stay in touch. Sounds great, Dan, have a good day. 525 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: That's Matt Miller, ESPN Draft contributor. I like when we 526 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: have guests on and they agree with me. Yeah. If 527 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 1: I'm the Niners and I could trade three first and 528 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: I could trade a third round pick and I could 529 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: get Aaron Rodgers, Yes, absolutely, Rogers would want to go. Now. 530 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: You got to convince the packers that, hey, you can 531 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 1: make Aaron the bad guy, but you got to trade 532 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,919 Speaker 1: him now. If you want public sentiment on your side, 533 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: you can do that. Now. You just have to be 534 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: sold on Jordan Loved being your future, because that's what 535 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 1: this is all going to come back to. This is 536 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: where you lose your job. You know, you drafted him. 537 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,719 Speaker 1: You eventually had to trade Aaron Rodgers and then you 538 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: find out Jordan Love can't play, or maybe you find out, 539 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: oh my god, this guy is unbelievable. Yes, we're so 540 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: happy we move done from Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, and if 541 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: you're the Packers GM, that's the coolest job in the 542 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: entire state. There's no second job in the entire state. 543 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: If you're from there that's even close to that. You 544 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: want to keep that one as long as you can. 545 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: Dennis in New York joins us on the topic. High Dennis, Hey, Danny, 546 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,479 Speaker 1: how are you good? Sir? Hey, It's kind of been 547 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: a little bit of a freaky Friday situation here in 548 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: New York. Me as a Packer fan, I feel like 549 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: a Jets fan this week. Green Bay Management has just 550 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: I don't know what they're thinking, but what I wanted 551 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 1: to touch on is the Packers cap situation and Aaron 552 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: Rockers contract ye, which kind of pulls this whole trade 553 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: this year not it's not going to happen. Like the Packers. 554 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: They if they trade or cut Rogers at thirty eight 555 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: million against cap this year, next year it's more reasonable 556 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: at seventeen million, it's just not going to happen. And 557 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: next year, if you look at the Packers cap, they're 558 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: almost dead last in cap space. They it's a poison pill. 559 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,719 Speaker 1: They have to Yeah, but they say this about Carson 560 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 1: Wentz that it was such an enormous cap hit, and 561 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz got traded by June First. If it's more 562 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: conducive to trade Aaron Rodgers, I still think he stays 563 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:22,239 Speaker 1: with Green Bay. But I'm in the minority. I just 564 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: think at some point now, do I think that Aaron 565 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: is the same as Russell Wilson. No, because I don't think. 566 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: I mean, Russell wasn't doing things behind the scenes. I 567 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 1: mean he said it publicly, and I think he just 568 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: wanted to get the attention of the Seahawks. I wanted. 569 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: I think he wanted people to understand what is going 570 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: on with the Seahawks and his relationship. And I don't 571 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: think he was hiding. I don't think he was, you know, 572 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: leaking things. It was just, Hey, this is my frustration here. 573 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers may be frustrated, but it feels like it 574 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: just bits and pieces, like there's breadcrumbs here of leaked 575 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: information here, and the Packers didn't leak it, and Rogers 576 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: didn't leak it. Okay. Thanks for listening to The Dan 577 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: Patrick Show podcast. 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There did how did last night play out? 597 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: In accordance to what you thought it was going to 598 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: play out? As far as the atmosphere, Mike, the atmosphere 599 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 1: was amazing. Then it was probably the best atmosphere for 600 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: a baseball game since the Alcs in twenty nineteen. So 601 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: they didn't have any fans last year. This year there's 602 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: been about ten thousand fans, nine thousand, ten thousand fans 603 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 1: at every home game. It's it's been lively when you 604 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 1: compare it to nobody. But yesterday ten thousand, eight hundred 605 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: and fifty fans actually sounded like a crowd of fifty thousand. 606 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: They were loaded for bear. They wanted to pay back 607 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: the Astros then waiting storing this up. It was definitely 608 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 1: a postseason atmosphere, to tell you the truth, I don't 609 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 1: know what your feelings were when this first came out 610 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 1: that they had won the World Series and then there 611 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 1: was the cheating there. We know the players weren't punished, 612 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 1: it was the manager in the GM, but what should 613 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: Baseball have done? Well, obviously they kind of made the 614 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: quote unquote deal with the devil Dan where in order 615 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 1: for the players to admit what they did, they were 616 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 1: granted immunity so you couldn't punish them after that. And 617 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 1: I understand that that's all part of doing business that 618 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: way and getting some kind of admission on paper. But 619 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: what they should have done I don't understand why they didn't, 620 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: and nobody's ever really given me a good explanation is 621 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 1: they should have taken away the World Series Trophy and 622 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: the World Series title. If you do that, then the 623 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: players can't walk around with a ring and fifty years 624 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,959 Speaker 1: from now say they were world champions in two thousand 625 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 1: and seventeen. And I think that's what angers the fans. 626 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: And it doesn't get the Yankees the chance to play 627 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 1: in the World Series in two thousand and seventeen. It 628 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 1: doesn't get the Dodgers a championship in two thousand and seventeen. 629 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 1: But at least there's some kind of justice that's extracted 630 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 1: for what they did. Now would they do it again? Well, 631 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 1: why wouldn't they do it again? The players weren't punished 632 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 1: at all. Yeah, I said the same thing, like, what's 633 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 1: the deterrent? It's like Robinson Canoe is still playing baseball 634 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: and he should be out of baseball. You get popped twice, 635 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 1: I mean, come on, what is the deterrent anymore? Al 636 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 1: Tuba ended up signing a contract that he's making close 637 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 1: to thirty million dollars a year, like, okay, so it's tainted. 638 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 1: I'm still making all this money. But I don't know, 639 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:22,359 Speaker 1: is there any sympathy for the Astros, like like last 640 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:26,319 Speaker 1: night as you're watching this, any sympathy. It's funny you 641 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 1: ask that, because I think they all deserved the greeting 642 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 1: that they got in the Bronx and I expected it, 643 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 1: and I think it's going to be worse tonight. But 644 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: I felt a little bit sorry for al Tuba. And 645 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: here's why this guy was one of the most likable 646 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 1: players in all of baseball. He was a guy that 647 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 1: people said, wow, if he could make it, anybody could 648 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 1: make it. Against all odds. He became this great player. 649 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 1: And if he thinks that yesterday is just a one 650 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 1: shot deal, it's not. As long as he plays this game, 651 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 1: he is going to be the villain now. So he 652 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 1: turned into the from the favorite to the villain. And 653 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 1: did he real we need to cheat? Are his talents 654 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 1: enough that if he didn't know the signs, would he's 655 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 1: still have been a great player, And I still believe 656 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 1: he would have been. But now he's got this scarlet 657 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 1: letter attached to him for all time and he's going 658 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: to be booed until the end of his career, and 659 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 1: I kind of feel sorry for him a bit. But 660 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 1: there's levels of cheating though, Michael, Like, that's that's the 661 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 1: hard part. When you you know, we can do like 662 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 1: baseball cheating where I'm at second base and I can 663 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,359 Speaker 1: look in and see where the catcher's situated whatever, But 664 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 1: you know, you got steroids in here, so it's kind 665 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 1: of hard to go okay doctoring a baseball, Like what 666 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 1: is hey, that's okay, that's the game, and then what 667 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 1: is not okay? You know, It's kind of like the 668 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 1: old Supreme Court decision on pornography. I'll know it when 669 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 1: I see it, you know, It's kind of like you 670 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 1: have to judge it for yourself. Like when the Red 671 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,760 Speaker 1: Sox were punished for twenty and eighteen, Dan, I thought 672 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,880 Speaker 1: that was gamesmanship, all right. They studied the catcher signs 673 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 1: on a video, then they told their players what the 674 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 1: signs would be. When a guy got the second base, 675 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,839 Speaker 1: he actually transferred that to the batter. I think that's gamesmanship. 676 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 1: But banking trash cans and having a live camera and 677 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,800 Speaker 1: the dugout in center field and transferring it into the 678 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,360 Speaker 1: alleyway of the dugout. To me, that was cheating, and 679 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 1: the Astros no, it was cheating. And then you know, 680 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 1: the umorus thing was that they'd come out in and said, well, 681 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 1: we didn't do it in the postseason. Oh okay, I'll 682 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,280 Speaker 1: play it long. So it worked all of the season, 683 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,800 Speaker 1: but you didn't do it in the postseason. And another 684 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 1: reason why I think the Yankees are still upset. Labor 685 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 1: Torres said this a year ago. Okay, it worked in 686 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen and you won a World Series. You all 687 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,320 Speaker 1: of a sudden stopped at eighteen and nineteen. He hadn't 688 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: been caught yet. Why would you all of a sudden stop. 689 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 1: Did you have this bang of a guilt. The whole 690 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 1: thing is still messy, And I'll tell you the truth. 691 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 1: A lot of people in the Yankie organization think that 692 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,359 Speaker 1: things weren't in the up and up in two thou 693 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 1: and nineteen either when out two of a hit that 694 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 1: walk off home run against Chapman, But that's never been proven. Well, 695 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,399 Speaker 1: it's like when Andy Petted said, hey, I just did 696 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 1: it to come back from an injury. I used steroids 697 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 1: and then I stopped. I don't know any anybody who 698 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 1: stops unless you have to stop, and you know, so 699 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:05,319 Speaker 1: that's another you know, that's more individual. This was systemic, 700 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,800 Speaker 1: This was an organization. But has Garrett cole Ever talked 701 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 1: about you're a pitcher on the astros, you benefited even 702 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 1: if like you're in the dugout, like did you hear 703 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 1: the trash can bim bang? Did you did you see 704 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 1: the results of some of this? Did they keep it 705 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 1: a secret from the pitching staffs? Has cole Ever commented on, 706 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 1: you know what he knew and when he knew it? Well, 707 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 1: it's funny they didn't keep it a secret from Mike Fires. 708 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 1: He's the one who grew the whole lid off of it. 709 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 1: But he has been very quiet about it. You know, 710 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 1: he's answered some questions, but he hasn't been expansive. And 711 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 1: he's one of the best athletes I've ever seen in 712 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 1: answering questions really thinking about them. But you know, he's 713 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 1: saying that when he was there, he didn't see anything, 714 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,840 Speaker 1: and he just leaves it at that, because you know, 715 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:51,799 Speaker 1: there hasn't been any proof that in those years they 716 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 1: had done anything wrong. But in twenty seventeen there actually 717 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 1: is proof. So I guess he could, you know, walk 718 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 1: around it that way. Is there a rivalry with the 719 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 1: Men and the Yankees now, is it, you know, legitimate? 720 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 1: I think if the Mets end up being really good, 721 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 1: you know, those six games would be exciting. I really think, Dan, 722 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 1: that the inter League player has kind of been played now. 723 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,479 Speaker 1: It's been overdone the six games of years too much, 724 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,880 Speaker 1: And unless they're both really good, I don't know if 725 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:18,440 Speaker 1: it's going to be the same sort of rivalry. I 726 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 1: think the rivalries now are with the Astros, the Rays 727 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,719 Speaker 1: and the Red Sox, and the Mets are more of 728 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 1: a fun thing. But if they get good and you know, 729 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 1: there's a battle for the city and you know, both 730 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 1: fan bases get really into and I think that will 731 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 1: ignite that again. But I think it's those three teams 732 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 1: in the America Lague that the Yankees really have a 733 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,880 Speaker 1: rivalry with. Great to catch up with you, Michael, My 734 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,840 Speaker 1: best to Paul and David. Thanks, we'll be watching tonight. 735 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:41,799 Speaker 1: Thanks Dan, have a great one.