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Speaker 2: This is our life, this is our passion. That's the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Virginia.

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Speaker 1: Maybe for lovers, but Friday it is for the art.

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Speaker 1: Combat back at you in your face, hoole, this Friday.

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Speaker 2: What do we got for a date?

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Speaker 1: April twenty second, two thousand and twenty two, in a

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Speaker 1: Let's get fired up. I mean, it's Tyson Fury Weekend.

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Speaker 1: Bellatour's on fire. Let's do this shit all right?

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Speaker 3: As you mentioned, Bellator tonight, Bellator tomorrow night, Tyson Fury

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen you that happy since they opened up

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Speaker 1: All right, all right, keep building that sleeve, maybe go

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Speaker 1: but Luke, we don't have a lot of time today

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Speaker 1: wash back massage, hot towel on the face, head massage, Luke.

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Speaker 2: And I'm still seventy dollars richer than you.

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Speaker 3: So I the problem. But the problem is you live

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Speaker 1: Tyson Fury, the Gypsy King, You're lineal in WBC Heavyweight champion.

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Speaker 1: He's back at it. He says it will be his

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Speaker 2: Luke, It's gonna go down. It's a big deal. Six

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Speaker 2: Dirty boxing for you, Luke, right, little dirty boxing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of dirty boxing, and when we went

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Speaker 2: If you don't know Dillion White's style, six.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Fury is a he's a freak of nature.

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Speaker 1: He's six foot nine and he's quicker and more nimble

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Speaker 1: and Luke, he's long suffering. He'll be in there, man,

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Speaker 1: even if he's losing rounds, still looking to push that

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Speaker 1: It's not going to be the same pure boxing performance

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Speaker 1: but it's going to have to be a mix of that.

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Speaker 3: Well, was the deal? This is the deal, even if

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Speaker 1: But Luke, as this fight starts to break down, is

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Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely the real estate because you know, obviously, I

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Speaker 1: Look, he says a lot of shit in interviews, including

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Speaker 2: And look, you know, it's weird.

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Speaker 1: We didn't think of Tyson Fury ever as a puncher

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's still very much a boxer. We talked

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Speaker 3: about the Wilder fights where he would push Wilder in

433
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Speaker 3: a direction, switch things up on him to push him

434
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Speaker 3: in a different direction, and then catch him at the

435
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Speaker 3: end of it, setting traps, working behind the jazz, fighting

436
00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:04,119
Speaker 3: on the inside, fighting on the outside, nimble footwork, good evasion.

437
00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,439
Speaker 3: I mean, Tyson Fury can do it all as a boxer.

438
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Speaker 3: But to the other point that you raised, marching a

439
00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:10,760
Speaker 3: guy down and was sort of one point, but the

440
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Speaker 3: other one was this dude he you know, the added

441
00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,000
Speaker 3: bulk definitely helped his overall power punching, no doubt about it,

442
00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,400
Speaker 3: But it was more the offensive mindset married with his skill.

443
00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,760
Speaker 3: What do I mean by that? If he has added

444
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Speaker 3: more bulk to his punches, that's going to help. But

445
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Speaker 3: the thing that really stood out to me in the

446
00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,200
Speaker 3: second and then the third Wilder fight was again which

447
00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:33,400
Speaker 3: will be relevant here, catching Wilder with openings, getting him

448
00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,640
Speaker 3: to either back up and move in direction or throw,

449
00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:38,840
Speaker 3: and then catch him on the opening. And then what

450
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Speaker 3: do I mean by this? Does he have the biggest

451
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Speaker 3: power in the world. No, but he's got more due

452
00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,920
Speaker 3: to the bulk. And two he's catching guys with these

453
00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,480
Speaker 3: great openings where he can just throw everything he has

454
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Speaker 3: into it when he's kind of faced off with a guy.

455
00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:53,920
Speaker 3: You would see this in the first Wilder fight. Remember

456
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Speaker 3: he would take his jab and flick it like he

457
00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:57,600
Speaker 3: was trying to get a booger off of his hand.

458
00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,480
Speaker 3: That was just done so he could like a little

459
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,760
Speaker 3: point and then move in a direction. Now what he's

460
00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,800
Speaker 3: trying to do is cleanly make contact as hard as

461
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Speaker 3: he possibly can, or at least you had, as and

462
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,679
Speaker 3: mechanically efficient as he can with these great openings. So

463
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,000
Speaker 3: it's not like his punching power went way up. It

464
00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:16,720
Speaker 3: went up a little bit by virtue of some of

465
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Speaker 3: the stuff in the strength and conditioning department and wait management.

466
00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:23,400
Speaker 3: He's done, but the targets of opportunity that he has

467
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:27,000
Speaker 3: now set up and selected allows him to put even

468
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Speaker 3: more heft than he would if he's got a real

469
00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,480
Speaker 3: end of the reach mobile game plan that he was

470
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Speaker 3: kind of using before. This allows him to sit and

471
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Speaker 3: fire versus tag and go.

472
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think he's adapted well to the Sugar

473
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Speaker 1: Hills Kronk style, which is obviously from Emmanuel Stewart, who

474
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Speaker 1: took both Lennox Lewis and Vladimir Klitch go and sort

475
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 1: of re not reinvented, but re energize them with the

476
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,520
Speaker 1: idea of, look, you're a big man, be the big man.

477
00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,639
Speaker 1: Lean on your opponents, use that size, use that frame,

478
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Speaker 1: where them down. So if you're Tyson Fury, inevitably, when

479
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 1: Dillion White gets inside, you're gonna have to do some

480
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,480
Speaker 1: of those even quasi dirty tactics, leading with the forearm,

481
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:12,680
Speaker 1: pushing down, leaning, trying to wear your opponent down to

482
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 1: later pick them apart if they're fatigued, which you know,

483
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:17,960
Speaker 1: makes you look like you've got more power than you do,

484
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,400
Speaker 1: which is a smart tactic. But look on the flip side,

485
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Speaker 1: if I'm team Dillion White here, you gotta go with

486
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,879
Speaker 1: the body. You gotta go with the body a lot.

487
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:25,639
Speaker 2: You've got to.

488
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Speaker 1: Even take the mindset of, you know, I'm not necessarily

489
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,160
Speaker 1: here to win rounds in the first half of this fight.

490
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,919
Speaker 1: I'm here to strategically, you know, put that money in

491
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 1: the bank to the body to try to make Tyson

492
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Speaker 1: Fury as stationary as possible in the second half of

493
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Speaker 1: the fight. When I believe Dillion White, who has shown

494
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 1: very good twelve around stamina throughout this twelve and one

495
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 1: run he's on in the last seven years, to try

496
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Speaker 1: to put it on late and go for the knockout. Luke,

497
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Speaker 1: If I'm Dillion White, I'm not trying to win a

498
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,879
Speaker 1: decision here, dude. I'm strategically setting up for the big finish.

499
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's right. Also, we've seen this too, like,

500
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,679
Speaker 3: for example, White could back Fury up against the ropes

501
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 3: and then what happens. How good is Fury doing this

502
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 3: and moving and leaning on the ropes. This is what

503
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,160
Speaker 3: MMA fans missed about boxing. When you get up against

504
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 3: that cage, it has no give. You are tall. But

505
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 3: when you get up against the boxing ropes and you

506
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 3: got somebody like Tyson Fury, he can lean so far

507
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,959
Speaker 3: out that the punch is the big overhands they go

508
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,120
Speaker 3: right in front of him. It's crazy to watch that.

509
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:23,879
Speaker 3: So I think what you're gonna have to do is

510
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 3: you're gonna have to find a way early to bring

511
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 3: his hands down. You have to transfer that defense, and

512
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 3: of course it will slow out down his footwork, it

513
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,719
Speaker 3: will slow down potentially his offensive firepower. Late, you have

514
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 3: to decide that I'm going to not give away the

515
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 3: first half, but I'm going to decide that the first

516
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 3: half of this fight is going to look a certain

517
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,880
Speaker 3: way that may not be advantageous. Also that I can

518
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,919
Speaker 3: go all in chips on the middle in the second

519
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 3: half of that fight. That's the key. But in that

520
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 3: first half BC, he also has to be careful not

521
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:56,680
Speaker 3: to get to predictable, too simple with the attack. He

522
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 3: still has to mix it up while just finding ways

523
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 3: to really go to the body overall. So I like

524
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 3: that you're the offensive priority of the body. But even

525
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 3: then he's gonna have to be clever and then quite

526
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 3: forceful about it.

527
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Speaker 1: And he's obviously if you're Dillion White, you're gonna have

528
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 1: to do something that gets Tyson Fury off script if

529
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 1: you're out of Allen, you opened up it with a

530
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,119
Speaker 1: cut and a clean punch, and I don't mean to.

531
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Speaker 1: I think earlier I accidentally kind of just overly disparaged

532
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 1: Dona Valeen and threw him in the same category as

533
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 1: Sepher Sufurry and Tom Schwatz or whatever.

534
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:25,680
Speaker 2: The hell, that guy's name was Dude.

535
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:29,200
Speaker 1: Otive Aleen's better than that, and he he had his opportunity,

536
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 1: he found his moment, he went for it.

537
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 2: God, he was dirty as shit trying to stick that

538
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:32,880
Speaker 2: thumb in there.

539
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:37,160
Speaker 1: If you're Dillion White, you need something that's gonna dramatically

540
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 1: shift and create an opening in this fight. And that

541
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 1: could be hurting him to the body. He could be

542
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,919
Speaker 1: wearing Fury down. It could be one big punch. But

543
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 1: when that you know when and if that big one lands,

544
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 1: that's when Dillion White has to go to work. He's

545
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 1: gonna have to understand the circumstance. Understand that, you know, well,

546
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 1: the judges more likely favor Fury if it goes the distance.

547
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Speaker 2: I don't know. They're both from the UK more or less.

548
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,160
Speaker 1: Dillion whit born in Jamaica, but you know has represented

549
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 1: the UK for a long time.

550
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 3: But booed at the wayans BC White guys.

551
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 2: I mean, look, he plays the villain role willingly.

552
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 1: If you're new to Dillion White, he's walked out of

553
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 1: many a press conference in the past complaining about his

554
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,400
Speaker 1: lack of pay. He refused to do the opening press

555
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,119
Speaker 1: conference for this fight because he said they didn't give

556
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 1: him paper viewpoints, he didn't show up to some of

557
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 1: the other press events.

558
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 2: It's sort of who he is. He's cantankerous.

559
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 1: But if you don't know about him, I mean he

560
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,159
Speaker 1: just turned thirty four a few weeks ago, and that's

561
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 1: that's prime. That's youngie, that's youngish prime for a heavyweight. Now, look,

562
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 1: he's been through the wars. He got one punched by

563
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 1: Pavician as we mentioned. But for what we don't know

564
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 1: about White? Again from a casual standpoint, because all the

565
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 1: talk in this heavyweight renaissance has been around Fury, Wilder,

566
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 1: Joshua and at times ooh sick or you know, or

567
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:57,360
Speaker 1: Tease or whomever. Andrew Ruiz for a for a hot second, Luke,

568
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 1: would you say that Dillion White, maybe not in terms

569
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,919
Speaker 1: of accomplishments, but just terms in terms of danger and

570
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: skill is what no worse than the fourth.

571
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 2: Best heavyweight right now? I mean, where where would you

572
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 2: put him?

573
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 1: If an MMA fan is watching this and going, I

574
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 1: don't know who the hell Dillion White is, where do

575
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 1: you put him in the hierarchy right now?

576
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 2: In terms of danger at the moment.

577
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 3: Oh, that's a good one. So you've got Usik, Joshua,

578
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 3: You've got Fury.

579
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 2: Luis o Cheese, Andy Ruiz.

580
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 3: I'd put would you above White or not?

581
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 1: No, dude, Okay, I'm going Fury number one. Okay, Usik too,

582
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 1: because he'd just be Joshua Wessell. Let's see what he's got, right,

583
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,120
Speaker 1: Let's see if you could do it a second time.

584
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 1: Who do you put third there? Who's the third best

585
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 1: heavyweight of the moment? Is it still Aj?

586
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 2: Because he knocked the White out?

587
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,640
Speaker 3: I would say AJ, even though he avenged the loss

588
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 3: to Ruiz, and obviously he had the loss to Usik,

589
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 3: but Usik is very good, and Joshua has to win

590
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 3: over million White, so that's kind of that's kind of big.

591
00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: I'm going then, I'm going Dillian White four. And you know,

592
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 1: Louis Ortiz is older and faded, and even though he

593
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 1: won against what's.

594
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 2: This who did Louis Ortiz's.

595
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: Just beat oh u K Charles Martin, but you know

596
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: he got he got hurt in that and he didn't

597
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 1: look great. And it looks like they're gonna do Louis

598
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 1: Ortiz against Andrey Ruiz next after that Triller thing failed whatever?

599
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 2: Who cares?

600
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,400
Speaker 1: But White is right there, So, Luke, here we go.

601
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: It's time to make the pick. Ninety four thousand. The

602
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,880
Speaker 1: center of the sporting world will be in London Saturday afternoon.

603
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:31,919
Speaker 2: It is what it is. Who wins? Why? What are

604
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 2: we gonna see?

605
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say I have a weird feeling that this

606
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 3: fight is gonna be unusual, and I can't quite put

607
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 3: my finger on it. So I'm gonna say something I

608
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,880
Speaker 3: would ordinarily never say. I will say Fury wins because

609
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 3: I do think he'll win. I think it's going to

610
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,679
Speaker 3: be crazy, something like seventh or eighth round TKO, right,

611
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 3: and not because Fury's I think Fury is that much better.

612
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 3: I mean, I've been saying this whole time. You two

613
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 3: that White is a live dog. Yeah, fair enough, he

614
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 3: absolutely is a live dog. I mean, I'm just sort

615
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 3: of I'm giving you a gut feeling answer here. My

616
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 3: head will tell me the Fury will win, so that's

617
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 3: my real answer. But I got a weird feeling that

618
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 3: like this might be a kind of back and forth

619
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 3: open fight which will hurt Fury but ultimately do more

620
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 3: damage to White. So I'm gonna say, like seventh round

621
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 3: TKO or something, something crazy, like that.

622
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 2: Okay, I've got similar to you.

623
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:23,199
Speaker 1: I like Tyson Fury via eleventh round stoppage here, but

624
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: luke to get there? Does Fury hit the canvas? Because

625
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 1: let's remember, yes, when he fought Wild there a third time,

626
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: he was coming off an eighteen month layoff due to

627
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 1: the pandemic. It's agreed upon that that wasn't the best

628
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: version of Fury that night physically mentally, but he gutted

629
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 1: it the hell out. Does he have to do that

630
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 1: essentially the same now? Not a full year later? But

631
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 1: where are we at now? We're about seven to eight

632
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: months later. Maybe my math is off six months later.

633
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 1: Will will we see a Fury really have to go

634
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: through hell to get this win?

635
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 3: I think he might. I think you might. I think

636
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 3: you might taste the canvas. I you know, again, if

637
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 3: White has fucked this up, then no, I think Fury

638
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 3: will run over him. You know, I don't. White's margin

639
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 3: for error is not nearly as wide as Furies. But yeah,

640
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 3: I do think Furia will taste. Dude, Fury takes risks.

641
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 3: He takes risks, and there are times in fights where

642
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 3: he's quite vulnerable, and I think White will have some

643
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 3: opportunities with that in the end, Like you, I don't

644
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 3: see that as the deciding factor. But yeah, man, I

645
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 3: do think I think Fury's in for a tough one.

646
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you. I think it's gonna be wild.

647
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 1: I think it's just all the stars are aligning here

648
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 1: for for for this to be a tough ass test.

649
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 1: For Fury to pass, it gonna have to get off

650
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: the canvas. But Luke, unless he's gonna sit down early

651
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: on his shots against White, he's gonna he may have

652
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 1: a problem keeping White off of him.

653
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 2: Now. Maybe maybe he'll blow us away.

654
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: Maybe he'll be twinkle toes in there and dodge and

655
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: jab and get out of the way.

656
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 2: But I don't know. I don't know if that guy's

657
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 2: there anymore.

658
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 1: It's not that Fury's old or washed or the damage

659
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: is caught up with him, but he just doesn't seem

660
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: to be employing that same you know, hit and not

661
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: get hit style he once did. So I think White's

662
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: gonna surprise us in how game he is, and I

663
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: think fear he's gonna have to knock this guy the

664
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: hell out to beat him. It's gonna be wild, It's

665
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: gonna be fun.

666
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 2: We all don't believe.

667
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: Fury's going to retire, Luke, So, if Fury wins here,

668
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 1: what do you see the future of the heavyweight division

669
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: over the next year?

670
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 3: What?

671
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 2: What what could be next for Fury? What do you

672
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 2: see happening?

673
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 3: Okay, So, I mean it's got to be the winner

674
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 3: of Joshua and Usik, right, which I think will probably

675
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 3: be Usik. Now, I don't know how much Fury wants

676
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 3: to fight Usik over Anthony Joshua. Well, obviously the bigger

677
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 3: fight by a good jillion miles, especially if Anthony Joshua wins,

678
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:35,959
Speaker 3: would be the Anthony Joshua fight. So I'll say this,

679
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 3: if Usik comes back, I don't know if if if

680
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 3: Usik wins the rematch, I don't know if Fury comes back.

681
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 3: I think if Joshua wins the rematch, there's no doubt

682
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 3: in my mind he comes back, not a single solitary

683
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 3: doubt at all. Yeah, that's the best I can say.

684
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 2: I would agree with that.

685
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 1: The reason why I would really like to potentially see

686
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 1: Usik versus versus Fury both unbeaten is because obviously Usik

687
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: brings essentially the you know, some of the same skills

688
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: that made Tyson Fury dynamic, but in a different package.

689
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: And I think Fury would have to turn into the

690
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: puncher there. I think they have to turn into the

691
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 1: you know, the bigger man and sort of fight in

692
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: all aggressive style in the end because Usik is so

693
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 1: you know, shifty and tough to be. It'd be fun,

694
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: just as if, by the way, if Anthony Joshua avenges

695
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 1: this loss which is in play. Okay, beautiful performance by

696
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 1: Usik in the first fight, but I felt AJ committed

697
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: too much to boxing and sort of overly believed in

698
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: his in his skills in that sense. And I don't

699
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 1: think people realize how much damage Usik took to win

700
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: that fight. For all we know, AJ can win that

701
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: by a glorious knockout and we could be starting twenty

702
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: twenty three with a Fury AJ all four belts, you know,

703
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: in front of four hundred thousand Brits at some open

704
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 1: field whatever, with.

705
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 2: The heavyweights on fire. We'll see it. Fury ain't gonna

706
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 2: sit around for that long retirement talk or not.

707
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 1: But I'm fired up, Luke. It is the crown jewel

708
00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 1: of this weekend. But we do have a lot of

709
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: MMAD to talk about Friday Night and Saturday. Let's go

710
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: to Saturday. Let's go to UFC Fight Night. We established

711
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: Wednesday storylines. Not the deepest or best card, but certain

712
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 1: a few interesting matchups as it pertains to the top

713
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: ten rankings, and obviously that main event is right there.

714
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 1: Former champion at one point fifteen Jessica Androge moving back

715
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: down to strawweight after a failed flyweight title a challenge

716
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: if you will, against Valentina Chevchenko. She's a minus two

717
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: to ten favorite against a surging Amanda Lemosh, who has

718
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: won five straight, is plus one seventy five. But as

719
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: we establish Wednesday, it's been a lower tier set of

720
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: victories on this five fight win streak. The most impressive

721
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 1: name was Angela Hill last time out, but it was

722
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: a split decision. Luke styles wise, who has the edge

723
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: in this one?

724
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 3: I would say, in looking at the tape and looking

725
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 3: at the numbers, Lemos or Lemosh Again, I don't speak Portuguese,

726
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 3: Please forgive me.

727
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: Where I come from, they call it Limos. I know

728
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: Mike Limos from nog to Connecticut.

729
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 2: I know his family. They're the limos Is. Okay, what

730
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 2: do you want from me?

731
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 3: I know I know, and I had a Brazilian person

732
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 3: write me, and then that just write me. They included

733
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 3: a sound clip of them pronouncing things, and what they

734
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 3: said was certain parts of Brazil, if you end with

735
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 3: an S, like let's say Marie, in certain parts of

736
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 3: Brazil they would say it mourish. But there's a lot

737
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 3: of parts of Brazil where they would not. They would

738
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 3: just say Maris. So I guess I don't fucking know.

739
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 3: But whatever, what I would say is she actually looks

740
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 3: like the mechanically more efficient cleaner, maybe even more nimble

741
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 3: fighter Lemos does relative to Androge. The problem ends up

742
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 3: being I'm not gonna say she's a poor man's Androge,

743
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 3: because that's not quite right. But they end up sort

744
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 3: of in positions where their offensive statistical histories look very similar. Right.

745
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 3: Let me give you an example about this. I looked

746
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 3: this up today just to be ready for this. Ready

747
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 3: strikes landed permit it for Amanda Lamos from Lemos five

748
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 3: point three to five. That's high. That's really high. Uh

749
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 3: strikes absorbed four point sixty seven, that's also high, But

750
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 3: she has a positive differential. How about Jessica Andrage six

751
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 3: point twenty four strikes? Landed per minute. Boy, that's a lot.

752
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 3: Strikes absorbed five point two to one, that's also a lot.

753
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 3: Here's my point. They have a similar dynamic where they

754
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 3: both deliver a ton and eat a ton, but slightly

755
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 3: more they deliver, however, andrage is just a little bit higher.

756
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 3: Plus you look at their punching power, it's not the same.

757
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 3: I would say that Lemosh is a more accurate striker.

758
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,240
Speaker 3: I would say Androge is a much more powerful striker.

759
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 3: The numbers kind of speak to that a little bit here.

760
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 3: Fifty eight percent for a Lamosh's accuracy, which is pretty high,

761
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 3: fifty percent for Androge. Now you see, if you go

762
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 3: and you look at Lemos's wins, what do you notice?

763
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 3: Angela Hill she scored a knockdown against Monsarrat Knejo, she

764
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 3: scored a knockdown against Lavigna Suza, two knockdowns against Mazuki,

765
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 3: one knockdown, dude. She has big power and she's a

766
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 3: quite accurate puncher. But the problem is she makes herself

767
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 3: a little bit vulnerable where there's at least some trading

768
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 3: that happens as a consequence. She's not like a hardcore

769
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 3: sticking mover in that way, and so while I respect

770
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,879
Speaker 3: what she can do to Androge, Androge has a pretty

771
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 3: good chin. Androge is clearly the more decorated of the

772
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 3: two and three. Androge is strong BC and I have

773
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 3: seen strong fighters who are like grappling strong but not

774
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:27,720
Speaker 3: punching strong. But Androge is both. She is grappling strong

775
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 3: and punching strong. It's like, dude, Lamos has earned this opportunity.

776
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 3: I really believe that. And she is a force to

777
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 3: be reckoned with. I really believe that. But fucking Androge

778
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 3: is a brick wall. And for all her deficiencies, I

779
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 3: don't know. We'll see, We'll see, but I don't know

780
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 3: if Lamos is the one to crack that code.

781
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 2: Luke is Androge the female John.

782
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 3: Linneker Ooh, I would say she's a got a little

783
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,919
Speaker 3: bit more of a well rounded game than him. But yeah,

784
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 3: it's like that. It's like that, dude, I mean, how

785
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 3: many people can stand up to set rounds of punching

786
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 3: from her. You could say, oh, well, Rose did it.

787
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 3: I would say Rose barely did it because Rose stuck

788
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 3: it to her early, and then Androge came back and

789
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,720
Speaker 3: came back, and by that third round she was fucking

790
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 3: rose up man, So like if that one had gone five,

791
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 3: who the hell knows. So, yeah, there's a lot of that, dude.

792
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 3: Like the thing is, it's like, dude, you watch Androge

793
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 3: on tape and you're like, oh, footwork is a little

794
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 3: bit of a mess. Defensive and the fainting is not

795
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 3: all that relative to other people you see, is not

796
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,760
Speaker 3: the best you've seen. But then she puts the paws

797
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 3: on them, and people just they collapse. They can't deal

798
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 3: with it, or she picks them up and drops them

799
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 3: or whatever. She is such a physical hulk that whatever

800
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 3: her other deficiencies, they're real and they can't be taken

801
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,399
Speaker 3: advantage of, but not like it would normally would be

802
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 3: given just how outrageous her strengths are. It's it's it's

803
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 3: quite remarkable.

804
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: I want to see how she looks in the cage

805
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: at this back, at this way class. I say that

806
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: because her two fight run at one twenty five, and

807
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 1: I obviously know she fought at one thirty five in

808
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: the past and.

809
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:56,720
Speaker 2: Has some nice wins.

810
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 1: But she had really built up her legs luke for

811
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,919
Speaker 1: that run to the flyweight title opportunity and had really

812
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: become like even more stronger at digging in with the punches.

813
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 2: She's obviously physically strong.

814
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: Where short of Valentino Chefchenko, who's just an absolute monster,

815
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: nobody really physically handles her. I want to see how

816
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 1: much you know, she she may have had to take

817
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: off muscle to get back down to one fifteen. Maybe

818
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 1: it's not that much. But I love the body attack

819
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: she showed against Caitlyn Chukegan. That was a very good

820
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 1: win in Androge's recent future and her ability to finish

821
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: her herd her to the body and then finish her there.

822
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: I want to see if that comes into play. But

823
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 1: we talked about Androge's sort of unique run across three divisions.

824
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 1: Look when you she's only thirty, right, I mean, so

825
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: it's not like you know, we're talking about her, you know,

826
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 1: at the tail end of the final chapter of her

827
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: prime necessarily, but you look at the winds do it

828
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 1: across three divisions? Raquel Pennington, Jessica Penny, Joanne Calderwood, Angela Hill,

829
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: Claudia Gadela, Tisha Torrez, Carolina kolel Keevich by vicious knockout,

830
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,240
Speaker 1: Rose for the title by knockout, and then she stops

831
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: Chukajian and stop Cynthia Calvio. We are talking about like

832
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: when we bring up names like RDA or Glover to Shia.

833
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 2: One of the sneaky great resumes of this.

834
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 3: Era, Luke.

835
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,879
Speaker 1: And it's not like no one knows that she's really good.

836
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: She was the damn champion. But do you have the feeling,

837
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: because sometimes people age differently, that there's still a lot

838
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:21,399
Speaker 1: left in.

839
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 3: Her I would say there's more left for Androge if

840
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 3: we'll see, we'll see how she looks at one fifteen.

841
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 3: I think that'll be the first part, and then the

842
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 3: second part would be, let's she What you can say

843
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 3: is between the first and second Rose fight. Even though

844
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 3: Androge lost the second Rose fight, what I would say

845
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 3: is she showed between those two fights, and it was

846
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 3: other ones in between, but she showed our thinker I

847
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 3: can't remember anymore, but the point being was there was

848
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 3: real maturity in her game. It was real maturity in

849
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 3: her game. She is at least trying to work on

850
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 3: her footwork. She's trying to work on her defense and

851
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 3: set ups and page cutting. It's still a work in progress,

852
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,760
Speaker 3: to be very clear about that, but I do believe

853
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,919
Speaker 3: that there is a difference between the one you saw,

854
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:03,240
Speaker 3: the fighter you saw advance or early in her strawweight

855
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 3: campaign versus the one that you have now. She's really

856
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 3: worked on that. So what I would say is to

857
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 3: the extent she I mean, you got to bring some

858
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 3: of these numbers down. The strikes absorb five point two one,

859
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 3: that's just way too high. It's weight you can't. It's

860
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 3: it's very difficult to be a weight class champion in

861
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 3: the UFC when you're eating five plus punches every single

862
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 3: minute on average. It's too high. So while this is

863
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,240
Speaker 3: the point, like you look at her takedowns per fifteen minutes,

864
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 3: she has nearly three nearly three strikes land as indicated

865
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 3: six point two offense. Great got to tighten up some

866
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 3: of that defense, got to tighten up some of the

867
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 3: greater fundamentals to put her in position. But if she

868
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 3: can keep doing that, pc Sky's the limit, man, Truly.

869
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 3: I mean that all right?

870
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 2: How far away?

871
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: Because I said Wednesday, and maybe someone incorrectly that I

872
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 1: felt this fight was more about me finding out if

873
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 1: Flay motions of this level, right, But you know you

874
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 1: were right to say, Hey, look, dude, I don't think

875
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: Godrag is that far away from the top. If she

876
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: gets a big win here and re establishes herself at

877
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: one fifteen, we don't know if Rose is still going

878
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,720
Speaker 1: to be champion. She's got a spar As a rematch

879
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 1: that's fantastic. Could she end up fighting the winner of

880
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: Wayy Yoanna two?

881
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 2: Who knows?

882
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: But if Andrage wins here, how far away do you

883
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 1: think she is from gaining what I would have to

884
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 1: think as a marketable Rose trilogy about for the title?

885
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, not far at all, Not far at all. I

886
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 3: would say. If Esparza wins, I don't know what they'll do.

887
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 3: But if a Rose looks good against the Sparza, like

888
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 3: you know, does the razzle dazzle? And then two Androge

889
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 3: looks good here even though Lamos was only sitting I

890
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 3: think at like ten or eleven in the straweight rankings,

891
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 3: Androge was sitting at the very top I think of flyweight,

892
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 3: and so I think a move down plus a dominant

893
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 3: win on either side, or I should say on both

894
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 3: sides rather would it could force a date with Destiny,

895
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 3: which is weird because it's just so strange how Rose

896
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 3: only seems to fight rematches all the time. It's quite wild.

897
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,720
Speaker 3: Or this case, would be a trilogy the same opponents,

898
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 3: is what I mean. But to your point, I think

899
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 3: there would be a lot of this is the thing

900
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 3: is like, would there be a lot of demand for

901
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 3: it if Andrage comes out here and just bodies Amanda Lamos? Yeah, Fuck,

902
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 3: there really might be. I don't think that's crazy at all.

903
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you on that end of the day, Luke,

904
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 1: is Amanda Limos on this level? Does she get the

905
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: dub on Saturday Night?

906
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 3: I don't think she does. I don't think she does.

907
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:26,720
Speaker 3: I mean again, I go back to it. She eats

908
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 3: four point sixty seven strikes per minute. Can you really

909
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 3: can you stand up to that for three four minutes

910
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 3: from Jessica Androge. Now, if she's just touching you, yeah,

911
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 3: of course she can. But if she's laying into you

912
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,240
Speaker 3: and those at least some of those are hard punches

913
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 3: from her, I think you're in trouble. Man. So I

914
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 3: do think that Lemos, that you saw the jab there,

915
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 3: she's stuck it in the face. I do think you're

916
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 3: gonna see Andrage have to work through it a little bit.

917
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 3: But if Andras starts to starts to land, it can

918
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 3: just be busy and start to get the volume. I

919
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 3: just I just don't see how Lemos can stand up

920
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 3: to that. Be be curious to be proven wrong. If

921
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 3: she does, I'll say this, you know, this would be

922
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 3: easily the biggest win of Leamos's career, and not just

923
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 3: in terms of name value, but in terms of like

924
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 3: quality win. You know, this is only the very best

925
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 3: of the divisions can beat Andrage. That's it, only the

926
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 3: very best. So if Lamos beats her, it tells you

927
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 3: a lot about where she ends up.

928
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,399
Speaker 1: All right, I got, I got, I got myself back

929
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: fired up for this fighter. I mean it is in

930
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 1: the women's strawweight division, which is, you know, arguably the

931
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 1: second best division in this entire sport. Luke one one

932
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 1: five just fires me up, Luke, Who's the greatest women's

933
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:28,399
Speaker 1: straweight fighter of all time?

934
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 2: I just I'm interested to know where you stand.

935
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 3: On Probably you wanna right?

936
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: Well, she did get She did lose twice to Rose,

937
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 1: including by vicious knockout, Luke, So you tell me who's Yeah.

938
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 3: But again, the people always answer this question incorrectly, like

939
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,399
Speaker 3: who's the greatest featherweight. As much as I love Max,

940
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 3: as much as I love Volcan There's only one answer

941
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 3: to that question is jose Aldo. Because you're looking at

942
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 3: what they did in the overall body of work in that.

943
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 2: That Alex take that New Zealand all right.

944
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that doesn't mean that neither of them

945
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 3: can take his place at some point, but it just

946
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 3: you know, dude, you look at what he did in

947
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 3: that division. It's not even remotely comparable. Anyway. The point

948
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 3: I want to say was, dude, what the fuck did

949
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 3: you ask? I can't remember anymore because your mother fucking

950
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 3: derailed me. Sorry about that.

951
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: I'm a derailer, Luke. I asked you who's the greatest

952
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: one hundred fifteen pounds?

953
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 2: Great all the time?

954
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:21,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Johanna's body of work there is probably the best,

955
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:26,320
Speaker 3: although I grant it's Rose because she has the two victories.

956
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 3: It's also part of the resume. The thing is that

957
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 3: Rose just hasn't done enough as champion yet. But if

958
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 3: she wins against the Sparsa, she's on her way.

959
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: So I'm often talking about the bodies of work at

960
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifteen pounds.

961
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 2: I'm with you, Oh, I am up and down this car, Luke.

962
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:41,879
Speaker 2: We have a busy show.

963
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 1: Anything you want to talk about. We did hit the

964
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: storyline previews. I told you how excited I am about

965
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,720
Speaker 1: this women's flyway about Macy Barbara Montana de la Rosa.

966
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 1: Which fight below the main event? Are you going to

967
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: be most tuned in on?

968
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:54,240
Speaker 2: Ooh?

969
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 3: Most tuned in? I will probably say the two that

970
00:43:57,920 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 3: I pointed out on Wednesday, very briefly, land of a

971
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 3: not Charles Jordan Chaws, Jordaine coming in with all the

972
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 3: verve in the world if you heard what he had

973
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 3: to say before the fights. And then of course the

974
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 3: Brian Campbell special Macy Barbarer taking on Montana de la Rosa.

975
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 3: Those two fights are the ones I've sort of penciled

976
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 3: in relevant fights between excellent fighters, in this case all

977
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 3: four directions. Vanada has a lot to prove. Certainly Jordain

978
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 3: is trying to make a big name, Macy Barbarer trying

979
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 3: to keep up the dominance or at least the comeback,

980
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 3: I should say, And then Montana de la Rosa. I

981
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 3: think trying to this would be the best win in

982
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 3: Montana dela Ross's career if she got it. So big

983
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 3: stakes all the way around, fun matchups. I like those fights, action.

984
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 1: Fights, fights It's like Ruth Chris here, Luke so much

985
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 1: steaks everywhere?

986
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 2: How are you sleeping though?

987
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 1: On the Moldovan Magnificent sixteen and O heavyweight Alexander Romanov,

988
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:47,839
Speaker 1: who's taken on Chase Sherman on this main card.

989
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:49,479
Speaker 2: You never talk about this man.

990
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 3: He is good. He is quite good. I always forget

991
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 3: about him. But we'll have to see what he does.

992
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 3: Chase Sherman, by the way, do if you noticed he

993
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 3: was there when we went to Sanford MMA and we

994
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 3: walked in. Did you notice him?

995
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 2: I did not.

996
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 3: No.

997
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 2: I saw Robby Loller run from me. That That was

998
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 2: my last memory there, Luke, No, he was there too,

999
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 2: Luke k bielert Tyson.

1000
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: Pedro making his first return this decade has in fast

1001
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 1: since twenty eighteen, lost three of his last four.

1002
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 2: Didn't he have a you saw up blip? Or did

1003
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 2: I make that up?

1004
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 3: You might have made that up? Might have made that

1005
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 3: a hamstring issue?

1006
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 1: Oh the injury? Yeah, three year absence from fighting, Luke.

1007
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: He's gonna be facing Ike Villa Nueva. Is there still

1008
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 1: time for mister Pedro.

1009
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 3: To get some nice wins in the UFC? Probably to

1010
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 3: be the prospect turned contender that he wanted to be.

1011
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 3: Probably not. I mean, losing, dude, you understand this because

1012
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 3: you watch other sports. Losing three years anyone can noodle

1013
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 3: is not optimal. But on top of that, dude, you've

1014
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 3: seen it. Like an American football, you start seeing running

1015
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 3: backs get hamstring issues. Yes, you know, they start going

1016
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 3: downhill pretty quickly. Hamstring issues are really difficult to recover from.

1017
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 3: Now it may not be as important for a career

1018
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 3: like mixed martial arts. One doesn't really know. We'll have

1019
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 3: to see, and I think this might be a winnable

1020
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 3: fight for him, But like you know, do I really

1021
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 3: see him as a title contender given the nature of

1022
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 3: the injury where by the way the surgery was botched,

1023
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 3: he had to go back and sort everything all over again.

1024
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 3: You know, this is a devastating injury and a very

1025
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 3: difficult comeback even if you do. I'll say this with

1026
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 3: Tyson Pedro. That Tyson Pedro is even back is remarkable,

1027
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 3: and if he wins, truly remarkable. I think putting like

1028
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,879
Speaker 3: title aspirations on him is is asking way too much of.

1029
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: Almost anyone agreed, and it was an injury there, so

1030
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: I was speculating in the wrong direction shot at that

1031
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 1: Tyson Pedro will be looking forward to that come Saturday night.

1032
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 1: But Luke Belator has a loaded weekend. As we talked

1033
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 1: about on Wednesday, It's a card tonight Friday on Showtime,

1034
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,359
Speaker 1: and it's an even deeper card come tomorrow night, Saturday Night.

1035
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 2: Luke as I got some computer issues. Oh we're reloading here, okay.

1036
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 1: Luke Belcher two seven eight will be this evening only

1037
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: on Showtime in the States, and we're going to contend

1038
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:58,959
Speaker 1: there for that one hundred and twenty five pound women's

1039
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: championship out of Alaska is a minus one sixty favorite

1040
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 1: in the main event. She won the title for Maleemale McFarland.

1041
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,399
Speaker 1: She at thirty five, appears to be finding out how

1042
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 1: great she could be against the battle tested gorilla herself,

1043
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 1: Liz Carmusch, a plus one forty underdog. Hermush was on

1044
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 1: HQ yesterday with our boy Hakim Dermis. Luke she's a

1045
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:24,800
Speaker 1: pioneer and as we talked about Wednesday, the spirit, the energy,

1046
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 1: the violence she showed in dispatching Kadawa Naby in the

1047
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: first round to secure this title shot. It feels like

1048
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: a different gorilla will will that version be walking into

1049
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 1: the beltor cage in Hawaii tonight, Luke.

1050
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,720
Speaker 3: Dude, this is a very I'm not gonna say easy,

1051
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 3: but there is a somewhat simple way to look at this.

1052
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 3: In the Velaska's fight against kiel Holtz, which was her

1053
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 3: last one, which was very narrow and very controversial in

1054
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 3: the scoring, I thought of Alaskas may have done it

1055
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 3: in the end, but one of the things that kiel

1056
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 3: Holtz was able to do, among a number of other things,

1057
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 3: was she was able to keep up enough offensive volume,

1058
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 3: both in terms of any kind of clinch scenario, not

1059
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,240
Speaker 3: just sort of striking at distance or on the ground

1060
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 3: or whatever. So what I'm trying to point out here

1061
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 3: is we see it here against what Naby she was

1062
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 3: able to open up. I'm telling you right now this

1063
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 3: stands sort of obvious because you everyone to saw the

1064
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 3: Chefchenko fight or whatever, and they were like, Jesus, you're

1065
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 3: not doing anything, dude. Very simply, Carmush cannot win if

1066
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,280
Speaker 3: she does the Chefchenko fight over again, not just because

1067
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 3: that's very difficult to beat anyone, but because dude, Velasquez

1068
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 3: has a good job. She is strong in the clinch.

1069
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 3: Maybe not quite as strong as car Moosh, but she

1070
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 3: is not physically super overmatched. Here is what I would say,

1071
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 3: overmatched maybe, but not super overmatched, and is just going

1072
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 3: to be real technical and disciplined with her footwork and

1073
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 3: will not be afraid to throw. Carmush. I'm not saying

1074
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 3: she was afraid to throw. I don't know what was

1075
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 3: happening earlier on what made the switch to the last fight.

1076
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 3: I'll just say this, if she's not offensively active, if

1077
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 3: she's kind of throwing and moving and not doing a

1078
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 3: whole lot, she cannot win. So what you need to

1079
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 3: see here, I'm Liz Carmoosh, and maybe by the way, BC,

1080
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 3: maybe not even in the striking department, But this is

1081
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 3: what I'm talking about, level changing, punching your way into

1082
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 3: the clinch, trying to look for takedowns. If she's taking

1083
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 3: her time with her offense, I'm not saying rushing is

1084
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,720
Speaker 3: the answer, but if she's not, if she is taking

1085
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 3: her time with her offense, she cannot win. She cannot win.

1086
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 3: You cannot beat a fighter this good, this much in

1087
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 3: their prime, this well rounded, this strong, this dialed in

1088
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,399
Speaker 3: with half the amount of volume. It does not work.

1089
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 3: So That's really the only way to understand this.

1090
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:33,919
Speaker 1: I love that you're like, you know, if carmush fights

1091
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 1: the way she did in the Shifchenko rematch, which was not.

1092
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:39,839
Speaker 2: At all Luke, she can't really win the title this time.

1093
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:41,320
Speaker 2: I would agree with that. If she stands on the

1094
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 2: outside and doesn't throw, it's not gonna have.

1095
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,280
Speaker 3: That was an exaggerated example. But what I mean to say.

1096
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 1: Is no, I know what you're saying, but let me

1097
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: let me spin it back into a question. Then I

1098
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 1: want to get to car Moosh in a second. But

1099
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 1: let's stay with the champion here. Velaska's you did bring

1100
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 1: up a good point the split decision win over Ke

1101
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 1: Holtz in her first title defense. It was a close

1102
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 1: but clear decision win against the the former champion Lee

1103
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 1: Mala McFarlane like, I want to know how good Velasquez is,

1104
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 1: and certainly she's a very good counter striker when you

1105
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: come at her. But are there enough holes you think

1106
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 1: in her game that Carmusch could exploit.

1107
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 3: Sure? Sure, And this is why I think getting a

1108
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 3: strong start is important because what you saw in the

1109
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 3: q Holtz fight a lot of different things, but the

1110
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 3: one I wanted to point out was. She was able

1111
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 3: to make adjustments late. She was able to make adjustments

1112
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 3: from what was not working in the first round to

1113
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 3: finding some avenues. And they were simple ones. They weren't

1114
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 3: you know, they weren't especially sophisticated, but she still had

1115
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 3: enough to transition from something that wasn't working and to

1116
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,839
Speaker 3: figure out what does Errol Spencer that against everyone they

1117
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 3: did against uh gus. The difference is that Errol Spence

1118
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 3: can do it like that. I mean, he takes one

1119
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:44,919
Speaker 3: or two rounds and he's already gone and your fuck

1120
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,479
Speaker 3: your life, You're done. It took Velaskas a little bit longer,

1121
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 3: but she was still able to do it. This is

1122
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 3: what I mean, Dude, Laskeez is gonna have one or

1123
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 3: two or maybe even three game plans for you. So

1124
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 3: if you take away the first one, it may, you know,

1125
00:50:57,640 --> 00:50:59,760
Speaker 3: take away some time, but she'll come around to the second.

1126
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:04,280
Speaker 3: You have to start strong. You have to start strong,

1127
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,919
Speaker 3: and Velaskiz has very much got a Mua Thai sensibility

1128
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 3: about pushkicks moving forward. Not just a jab to jab

1129
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 3: and move, but jab and push. You got to push

1130
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 3: her backwards. Kiel Holtz was able to do a lot

1131
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 3: of that. Get inside the distance, get inside the range

1132
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 3: and then catch Velasquez in these openings that she wasn't seeing.

1133
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:23,399
Speaker 3: She doesn't have, by the way, the best head movement

1134
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 3: in the world. So this is I mean, really, this

1135
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 3: is a winnable fight for someone like Karmush, given her

1136
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:30,439
Speaker 3: what we know of the best of what we've seen

1137
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 3: from her, and in this weight class, that's a good

1138
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:37,240
Speaker 3: space for her. This is winnable if and only if,

1139
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,879
Speaker 3: if and only if, at some point relatively early into

1140
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:44,720
Speaker 3: the fight, she pushes into it and drives and drives

1141
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 3: Velaskaz backwards, really gets inside of that range. If she

1142
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 3: doesn't do that, she sits at the end of the

1143
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 3: reach of Alaskaz. It is hopeless.

1144
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: Well, I'm with you in saying she's got to press

1145
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: the action on the feet to make things happen. I

1146
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 1: will say, though, that Velaskez is better when people are

1147
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 1: coming at her, So there's gonna have to be some

1148
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:02,839
Speaker 1: nuance in the way she sets it up.

1149
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 2: But Luke, I want to talk about where Gorilla is.

1150
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 1: Thirty eight years old, lives Carmouche. She's fought for a

1151
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 1: major title three different times. Let's not forget she lost

1152
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 1: a Strikeforce Women's Bandamweight Championship out to marlows Conan back

1153
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 1: in twenty eleven, a year after she turned pro, Luke,

1154
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 1: she won six fights.

1155
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 2: In her debut year. In twenty ten, she went on

1156
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 2: to lose two different UFC title fights, of course, the.

1157
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: One with Rowsey at bantamweight and then moved down against Schifchenko.

1158
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 1: I mean, we do rightfully look at her as a pioneer.

1159
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 1: Maybe she didn't fight as early as you know, Matafari

1160
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 1: or Cyborg did, but she was involved in some pretty.

1161
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:41,720
Speaker 2: Big, early, big fights and she's still here. How feel

1162
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 2: good would this be?

1163
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,400
Speaker 1: How big would this be for her to be able

1164
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 1: to potentially end her run with a major title, the

1165
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 1: Bellator Women's Flyweight Championship.

1166
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 2: I mean, would this would have you.

1167
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 1: Know, as a fellow marine, Luke, this would have to

1168
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: make you feel good for a fighter who never stopped grinding.

1169
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, she and I have, I've talked about being in

1170
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 3: the Marine Corps several times, and yeah, I would love.

1171
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 3: I mean, I'll always cheer for former Marines always, man,

1172
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 3: So like it would be it would be great to

1173
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 3: see her hoisted trophy, in part because you know, not

1174
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:15,840
Speaker 3: that she'll be forgotten. But it's like, oh, she was

1175
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 3: one half of the first women's fight in the UFC, Yeah,

1176
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:19,439
Speaker 3: and she lost it. And she had these other title

1177
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 3: shots and stuff, but she lost them. It would be

1178
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,839
Speaker 3: nice to see like a crowning achievement more than like

1179
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 3: these next to situations or next to achievement. And the

1180
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 3: other thing I'd say is you mentioned something really important.

1181
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 3: Thirty eight years old, man, That is that is old.

1182
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 3: That's old for fighting in any way class except for

1183
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 3: men's heavyweight. You know, to be this age, this long

1184
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 3: in the tooth, to get the title shots pretty impressive

1185
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 3: by itself. But to be this age and to win

1186
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,359
Speaker 3: a title at that level of the game, I mean,

1187
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 3: that's that's like I'm not I don't know if that's

1188
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 3: Randy Cotor level, because I know he was in the forties.

1189
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:54,399
Speaker 3: But I'm saying relatively speaking for what we know about

1190
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 3: the women's game, I can't recall someone, yeah, even being

1191
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 3: close to I don't know how old Magumi Fuji was

1192
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 3: at the end of her run, but this is it

1193
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 3: would be remarkable thirty eight years old to do something

1194
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 3: like this, given where she's been an BC to the

1195
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 3: point we've raised where we thought she was shot maybe

1196
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 3: after the Chefchenko fight. We were just like, I don't

1197
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 3: know what's going on here, But then she really turned

1198
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 3: it around in the last contest. I'll say, of course

1199
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,479
Speaker 3: that what Nabby is not at all what she's facing

1200
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 3: here of Alaskeez is a very different animal. But dude,

1201
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 3: it would be, it would be. It would be a

1202
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 3: feel good story in many ways, and it would be

1203
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 3: remarkable athletically for her to be this competitive this late

1204
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:31,240
Speaker 3: into her career.

1205
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna give her the credit, Luke.

1206
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 1: She's done a lot and she could have, you know,

1207
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 1: given up at different points, but she's still grinding. She

1208
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:40,760
Speaker 1: did three tours of duty, by the way, in Iraq

1209
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: during her five year running the Marines as an aviation electrician.

1210
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 1: She's been very early and outspoken, Luke, of of you know,

1211
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 1: gay rights and being an open lesbian very early in

1212
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 1: her career. She's a very sound, solid, respectable fighter. I'd

1213
00:54:58,000 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: love to see her get that chance and put her

1214
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 1: best foot board and try to get this this crown

1215
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: to close her career.

1216
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:03,800
Speaker 2: We'll see what happens.

1217
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 3: And one last, one last reminder that folksmen out appreciate,

1218
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 3: you know, When I think she enlisted in to the

1219
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 3: Marine Corps, they were not allowing women in combat arms billets,

1220
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:15,879
Speaker 3: which means you couldn't be You weren't. You weren't allowed

1221
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 3: to be unless you were doing like you know, uh

1222
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 3: admin shit. You weren't allowed to be attached to a

1223
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 3: grunt unit or or a combat arms unit. I guarantee

1224
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 3: if she enlisted today where they relax some of those rules,

1225
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 3: she would be the first one on the front lines

1226
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 3: for the infantry school.

1227
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:32,399
Speaker 1: So remember that absolutely, uh good fight, Luke. I think

1228
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 1: Carmosh is a live dog. But again, as we said,

1229
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 1: she's got to be offensively aggressive. One thing though she

1230
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 1: did say this week, Luke, was that she believes that

1231
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 1: Velasquez is Judo just doesn't match up with her grappling

1232
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 1: ability on the ground. And she she's said multiple times,

1233
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 1: if Juliana wants to take this there, she's gonna have

1234
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 1: a problem.

1235
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:50,879
Speaker 2: So we'll see. As much as we want to see

1236
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:51,320
Speaker 2: her push.

1237
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,760
Speaker 1: The pace on the feet, can she get long stretches

1238
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 1: of control on the ground that could be big over

1239
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 1: this five round about for Carmush.

1240
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,919
Speaker 2: Luke, We've got uh, we've got potential play.

1241
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 1: Now, look this I don't know if something happened on

1242
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 1: the scale, but I'm being told here that this co

1243
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 1: main event, Nikita Mikailov, the last minute replacement against Enrique Barzola,

1244
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 1: is now a catchweight about of one forty. I don't

1245
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 1: know if that affects its standing as a play in

1246
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 1: bout to this band and Weight World Grand Prix, but

1247
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 1: I am looking forward to that fight, just as the

1248
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 1: one you mentioned as well, Jordelle Lugo against Danny Sabatello,

1249
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 1: as we have two potential play in bouts here to

1250
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 1: get into this tournament with the fallout of Sergio Pettis's injury.

1251
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 1: So hey, Luke, it's it's putting a focus on fights

1252
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 1: that maybe you wouldn't have focused on.

1253
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:34,359
Speaker 3: Okay, I say it one more time, if you guys

1254
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 3: missed Wednesday show, Jornello Lugo and Danny Sabtelo, that's the

1255
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 3: one you want to pay attention to. That is by

1256
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 3: a million miles the best fight on this card, and

1257
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:42,720
Speaker 3: it's not close.

1258
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:46,439
Speaker 1: Okay, Luke, Let's go to Saturday night, beltor two seventy nine,

1259
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 1: same location here, Honolulu, is it? And Luke, I don't know,

1260
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 1: I've been I've been banging something, maybe a drum. I'm

1261
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 1: trying to tell you that anger fist is coming on

1262
00:56:55,600 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 1: A massive, A massive betting underdog is Arlene Buenco in

1263
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:03,399
Speaker 1: her third attempt at a belatal world title, second time

1264
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 1: facing Chris Cyborg. In just the last couple of years.

1265
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:09,720
Speaker 1: Cyborg now down to a minus one thousand betting favorite.

1266
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 1: She was wider plus six point fifty for Arlene Blanco. Luke,

1267
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: you know the odds, the history will tell you that

1268
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 1: sooner or later, within the first couple rounds Cyborg, we'll

1269
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 1: get the finish here. How does Blanco change that script?

1270
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 1: Because I've been saying, go for it, guns blazing, no regrets.

1271
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 1: It can be easier said than done against a puncher

1272
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 1: of Cyborg's stature in history. But I have to believe

1273
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 1: if Arlene cannot make fireworks here, this is gonna go disastrous.

1274
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I gotta tell you, I don't know how Blenco

1275
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 3: wins this if she tries to fight super strategically. You know,

1276
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 3: Cyborg has really worked on her game. Her footwork is great.

1277
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 3: Obviously she's got the gas tank for the whole five

1278
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 3: if she needs it. We know about her power punching.

1279
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 3: We know about her takedowns. We know about her ground pound,

1280
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 3: Like you know, you want to just try and fight

1281
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 3: fight wherever. It just kind of goes attitude where you

1282
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 3: hear a lot of fighters say, dude, Cyborg's gonna tune

1283
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 3: her up now and quickly. I actually feel like you're

1284
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 3: half right. Actually I'll say this PC, I think you're

1285
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 3: seventy five eighty percent right, which is here's what I mean.

1286
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 3: To the point I just raised, sitting at the end

1287
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 3: of Cyborg's jab and just getting eaten a live is

1288
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 3: gonna do nothing for her. But I think if you're

1289
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 3: just recklessly brawling, you could win, but that won't work.

1290
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 3: What I mean is, if I'm Blanco's team, I am

1291
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 3: charging in finding ways to get takedowns without getting hit

1292
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 3: on the entry, shoving Cyborg against the fence, and then

1293
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 3: trying to blitz her with punches off the clinch break,

1294
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 3: because I do think that you have to just get

1295
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:40,919
Speaker 3: Cyborg to open up and trade with you. That's really

1296
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 3: the only way you're gonna get to find her defense

1297
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 3: be lax, at least given Blanco's skill set, and that's

1298
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 3: risky because Cyborg is the bigger puncher of the two

1299
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 3: and could probably hammer her, but BC, I don't really

1300
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 3: know what the great alternative is. I'm just going to

1301
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 3: strategically find my way to beat her for five rounds

1302
00:58:57,600 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 3: or three of five rounds.

1303
00:58:58,880 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 2: No, she can't.

1304
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 3: Power punching's too strong, the wrestling's too strong, the ground

1305
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 3: of pound's too strong.

1306
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 2: And she's an affiic shent puncher.

1307
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 3: Luke, if you if you use a less thing, last thing,

1308
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 3: last thing, least thing.

1309
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 2: I'm giving it to you. I'm giving it back to you.

1310
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 1: I'm saying, if you stand a distance with Cyborg, she's

1311
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 1: too technically strong.

1312
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 2: This isn't strike for Cyborg anymore.

1313
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 3: You know that's right, dude. Basically the issue is this,

1314
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 3: you have to get Cyborg to make a mistake. You

1315
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 3: have to get it's not just finding it opening. You

1316
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 3: have to get her to make a mistake. The one

1317
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 3: thing we've kind of seen is that she'll she's willing

1318
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 3: to trade sometimes kind of head chin in the air.

1319
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 3: That's not, you know, not the super commonest thing, but

1320
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 3: it can happen. You gotta pull that out of her

1321
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:37,920
Speaker 3: because if you don't. Again, I just don't know what

1322
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 3: the past to victory is.

1323
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 1: You know that old saying you hang around to barbershop

1324
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 1: long enough, Luke, you're gonna catch a haircut. Parents used

1325
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 1: to say that, like you hang around with those kids

1326
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 1: in your grave that do drugs, Eventually you're gonna do drugs.

1327
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 1: It's sort of like me, Luke, I don't stand in

1328
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 1: front of gas stations anymore for long periods of time

1329
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 1: because I'm gonna end up grabbing a bun in a wiener, right.

1330
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 1: I mean, that's just how it works. My liver can't

1331
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 1: take that shit. Side Borg's one you know spot on

1332
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:05,440
Speaker 1: the Death Star that can cause the explosion is she

1333
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 1: loves to brawl, and Nunas took that chance. Obviously, no one,

1334
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 1: very few others in this world are Amanda Nunas who

1335
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 1: have the chin and the delivery system and the power

1336
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 1: to do what.

1337
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 2: She did, which is shocked Cyborg and knock her out.

1338
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:20,919
Speaker 1: But eventually, Luke, somebody's gonna take that blueprint and they're

1339
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 1: just gonna say, They're gonna say fuck it, Luke, They're

1340
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 1: gonna tom cruise risky business. This shit kind of what

1341
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 1: Juliana Pina did to Newness, right, which is just like,

1342
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:31,920
Speaker 1: no matter what, this is my chance, and there's only

1343
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 1: one way for me to get it, and it's going

1344
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 1: right up to that door, knocking on it, kicking it in,

1345
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 1: and fucking taking over. Okay, I think the advantage for

1346
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 1: Blanco is that she already just lost the way you said,

1347
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 1: trying to outstritique her, trying to do her game plan

1348
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 1: like we always get on Lauren Murphy right for the

1349
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 1: Chefchenko fight, because you know, you know, I'm just gonna

1350
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 1: be me.

1351
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 2: You can't be you against the great ones, right.

1352
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 1: You have to go in the direction of their weakness,

1353
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 1: be bold and ridiculous and go after it.

1354
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:00,120
Speaker 2: It's not an.

1355
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 1: Easy job, okay at all. But Arlene Blanco, does she

1356
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 1: have the foundation to try this? Yes, she has angry

1357
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 1: fist luke. Okay, she's got a pro boxing background. If

1358
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 1: she's not going after it in round one and trying

1359
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 1: to make this a war. Doesn't have to be reckless,

1360
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be hands down, but you got to

1361
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 1: push that pace. Almost the same thing we're saying about Carmuche,

1362
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 1: but different. You've got to be bold as shit, and

1363
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 1: you gotta make Cyborg realize that this is a fight

1364
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 1: because that's where the openings will be.

1365
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 2: Does Arlien have to bite down, yes. Does she have

1366
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 2: to land big strikes? Yes?

1367
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 1: Is it a losing battle in terms of you know

1368
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 1: what you would recommend for her?

1369
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 2: It could be.

1370
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:42,439
Speaker 1: It could be a disasterally distrestously bad one. But you're

1371
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 1: not gonna win trying to out technique outthink Cyborg.

1372
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 2: You gotta bring the fight to her.

1373
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 1: We will find out, Luke, I'm by no means predicting

1374
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 1: an upset here, but I'm saying, if she can make

1375
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 1: this a fun fight.

1376
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:56,480
Speaker 2: This could be interesting. We'll see Saturday nine, ten thirty

1377
01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 2: pm Eastern.

1378
01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 1: But look, this card is much deeper than just that

1379
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 1: title main event on Showtime. And of course we're talking

1380
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 1: about the bantam belatour Bantamweight World Grand Prix. We got

1381
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 1: play in bouts on Friday. We've got real fights on Saturday.

1382
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 1: Won Archieletta, the former champion, sliding in as a plus

1383
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:16,960
Speaker 1: two h five underdog here. It's gonna be for the

1384
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 1: interim title, now that Sergio Pettis is injured and removed

1385
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:22,680
Speaker 1: and he's taken on ralfieon Statts minus two fifty five, Luke,

1386
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 1: Statts could not be coming into this any hotter then

1387
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 1: putting it on Mago med Mago medoff in that three

1388
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 1: round grappling heavy, but he also showed that he can strike.

1389
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 2: How does Archiletta win this though, right? How does he

1390
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 2: do it?

1391
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 3: Luke the way he always does. He will have to

1392
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 3: rely on that gas tank, which is tremendous. He's gonna

1393
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 3: have to rely on his entries, the distance management, and

1394
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 3: then what I like to say his style is like jousting,

1395
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 3: where he stays away, he's moving latterly, and then he

1396
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:58,439
Speaker 3: does a blitz up the middle or at an angle

1397
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 3: or whatever the case may be. That's what he really

1398
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 3: has to do. He has to get back to, you know,

1399
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 3: the one Archiletta way of doing things, and Statts's job

1400
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 3: is to I mean, well, how did Sergio Pettes deal

1401
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 3: with that? Sergio Pettis dealt with that because he could

1402
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 3: either stop the takedown see it coming, or he could

1403
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:18,440
Speaker 3: time and recognize the entries from Marchiletta, and then he

1404
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 3: was able to basically counter strike him and tore him

1405
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:22,520
Speaker 3: up from it. It was one of the most It's

1406
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 3: that is the best performance I've ever seen from Sergio

1407
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 3: Pettis was the way he beat one arche Letta right

1408
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 3: pretty clearly. So Statts has two options. One you can

1409
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 3: go that path, right, let's see what happens. If you

1410
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 3: can try and time him, maybe he will or the

1411
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:38,480
Speaker 3: other one is archie Lettus take down defense is good

1412
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 3: and his motor is good. But Statts has very good

1413
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 3: positional control, very good ways of not stalling a fight,

1414
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 3: but stabilizing a fight, stabilizing all the variables and then

1415
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 3: controlling it and then having some success in terms of

1416
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 3: you know, you know, having positioning himself between the fence

1417
01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 3: and his opponent and getting control with a leg ride

1418
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 3: stuff like that. That's what he's got to do here

1419
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 3: a little bit. And against Maca Madoff, yeah he went

1420
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 3: some of back and forth with it, but I think

1421
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:09,560
Speaker 3: against a guy like Archiletta is too experienced. I think

1422
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 3: still too fast and still is a great great gas tank.

1423
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 3: You can't just leave him space unless you're a sharpshooter.

1424
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:18,920
Speaker 3: Is Statt's a sharp shooter. I don't think so. So

1425
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna have to go the other direction.

1426
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 3: But he'll be curious. I'll be curious to see what

1427
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:23,720
Speaker 3: he does here.

1428
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 1: Yes, Stats is coming on at thirty three years old,

1429
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 1: Duke Rufus team. But what we talked about him stepping

1430
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 1: away from that because he thought he was spacing Sergio

1431
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 1: Pettis for the title. Then the tournament gets dropped in.

1432
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 1: But Luke's seventeen and one overall is raffe on stats.

1433
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:42,440
Speaker 1: He hasn't lost since that twenty seventeen spinning backfist knockout

1434
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 1: to Morob Davala Scilly, who is certainly on his own run.

1435
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 1: It's been what Luke since then, nine straight victories. It

1436
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:52,960
Speaker 1: took us a while to sort of realize he was

1437
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:56,800
Speaker 1: coming on this strong, but he is. But when you

1438
01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 1: think of this matchup, you go, Okay, Statts is the

1439
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 1: you know, is the probably the better wrestler. I didn't

1440
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:04,360
Speaker 1: think he was going to out wrestle Maga Metov at

1441
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:07,000
Speaker 1: some of the easier turns. He made it look by

1442
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 1: stuffing all of those takedowns, but look, Archa Letta can wrestle.

1443
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:12,680
Speaker 1: I didn't realize until really digging deeper that he was

1444
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 1: a junior college All American. He got a scholarship to Purdue,

1445
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 1: and according to Wikipedia, he succumbed to alcohol addiction and

1446
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 1: crime and ended up serving jail time.

1447
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 2: But boy, has he turned this around.

1448
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 1: I guess I didn't think of that foundation he has

1449
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 1: in amateur wrestling because I think of him as such

1450
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:32,919
Speaker 1: a high volume, high cardio striker. How do you think

1451
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 1: the wrestling and the takedown defensive both ends up influencing

1452
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 1: the outcome of this fight?

1453
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:39,480
Speaker 3: So you're seeing some of it here. What's it going

1454
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:42,120
Speaker 3: to look like? Stotts is real good about you in

1455
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:44,600
Speaker 3: this For the Mega metalf fight stopping the takedown and

1456
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 3: then you saw an ankle pick here he was able

1457
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 3: to hit in reverse and then go to the back.

1458
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 3: He's going to have to do that here. So it's

1459
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 3: not like if a takedown fails by Archiletta, he's going

1460
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 3: to have to find a way to disengage relatively quickly,

1461
01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 3: because the longer they're locked up in that kind of position,

1462
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:00,920
Speaker 3: the worst I think it could actually be for him.

1463
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 3: But you're right about his wrestling, like no one ever

1464
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:04,960
Speaker 3: talks about it because he just has so much he

1465
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:07,040
Speaker 3: does on the feet with the motion and the blitzing

1466
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:09,640
Speaker 3: and the jousting and everything else that folks forget about it.

1467
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 3: But dude, his takedown defense is solid, and his takedowns

1468
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 3: are dynamite when he wants them, especially when he gets

1469
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 3: going and he can get his feet and his speed

1470
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 3: under him. Yeah, he runs down these blast doubles that

1471
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 3: are pretty amazing. So the key there will be to

1472
01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:24,520
Speaker 3: find moments where the striking has already worked a little

1473
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 3: bit and Stotts is reasonably confused about what is coming.

1474
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:29,440
Speaker 3: If he just runs them down like Mega Metov was

1475
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 3: there trying to get a little bit desperate with it,

1476
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 3: I think Stotts is going to be a real big

1477
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:34,840
Speaker 3: problem for him. It's really about how he sets them

1478
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:38,520
Speaker 3: up first with the striking or how he deals with

1479
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 3: Stotts potentially trying to take him down early on as well. Well.

1480
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 3: That'd be a very interesting test Stott's.

1481
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 1: The betting favorites, as I mentioned we talked to Wednesday,

1482
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:48,959
Speaker 1: somebody is going to really ring the bell in terms

1483
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 1: of who's going to come out as.

1484
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 2: The early one grabbing the attention in this tournament.

1485
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:55,080
Speaker 1: We like Horror Gucci potentially as sort of an on

1486
01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:57,520
Speaker 1: paper favorite despite the loss of Pedest and Luke. He's

1487
01:06:57,520 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 1: gonna get that chance one fight earlier. Horror Gucci in

1488
01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:02,480
Speaker 1: my is two twenty five betting favorite against the plus

1489
01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:04,960
Speaker 1: one eighty five Patchi Mix, who of course fought for

1490
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 1: the vacant title and lost to one Archieletta a few

1491
01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:10,040
Speaker 1: years back, but has a would you call Patchi Mix

1492
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:11,120
Speaker 1: a sublime grappler?

1493
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:13,880
Speaker 3: Luke, Yeah, he's good. He's a very good grappler and

1494
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 3: a dedicated one too, Like the results speak for themselves,

1495
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:19,000
Speaker 3: like he hunts for the finish, like there are guys

1496
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:20,600
Speaker 3: who are like grapplers and again, and that's sort of

1497
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:23,960
Speaker 3: stabilizing positionalway, Dude, Patchi Mix is trying to threaten you

1498
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 3: at all times. He's he's dangerous.

1499
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:29,160
Speaker 1: Are we overlooking though in saying Horror Gucci might be

1500
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 1: the best in this mix, even with Sergio Pettis pulling

1501
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 1: out maybe that, you know, I think even before that,

1502
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 1: because he was piecing up Sergio until the dramatic knockout.

1503
01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 1: Are we overlooking the fact that, you know, physically you

1504
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:43,439
Speaker 1: get knocked cold, Luke? Here, you know there's a price

1505
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 1: to pay physically. Horror Gucci back pretty quick here to

1506
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 1: try to remind us how great he is.

1507
01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:51,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, he really is, dude. This is like, listen, if

1508
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 3: Patchi Mix is at his best and Horror Gucci is

1509
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 3: at his best, it's a little hard for me to

1510
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:56,320
Speaker 3: see how mix is going to win. Possible, but little

1511
01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:58,520
Speaker 3: hard for me to see. But the question is, like,

1512
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 3: with that knockout, what does that dude him? Now we've

1513
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 3: seen him get stopped before against Kasaka and then coming

1514
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 3: back in and showing more resolve, but this knockout was

1515
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:08,960
Speaker 3: worse than that one, and you know this is not

1516
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 3: an easy return fight at all. Pachi Mix is a

1517
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 3: difficult guy who has finally put some veteran experience under

1518
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 3: his belt, has gone into hostile enemy territory. For example,

1519
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:18,760
Speaker 3: I do think Horror Gucci, especially with one of the

1520
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:21,599
Speaker 3: Japanese influence in Hawaii to an extent, and will probably

1521
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:23,920
Speaker 3: be treated as something like the hometown guy. We'll see.

1522
01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 3: But the point I'm trying to raise here is there's

1523
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:27,880
Speaker 3: a lot of questions about Hora Gucci in this one.

1524
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 3: What is he going to look like mentally? Was he

1525
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:31,160
Speaker 3: gonna look like physically? Is he going to be even

1526
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:34,320
Speaker 3: more defensive than he was the last time? Will he win?

1527
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:37,640
Speaker 3: But be really boring, like, like what happens here is

1528
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:39,439
Speaker 3: a really important question. So I'll say it again. If

1529
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:41,719
Speaker 3: Horror Gucci is back to where we understand Horror Gucci

1530
01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:44,840
Speaker 3: to have been tough night for Patchi Mix, but who

1531
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 3: the fuck knows? Because that was a devastating knockout loss

1532
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:49,439
Speaker 3: in his last freaking fight.

1533
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:53,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, you look at how freaking battle tested Horro Gucci is.

1534
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:56,840
Speaker 1: How few times he's actually been defeated across such a

1535
01:08:56,920 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 1: long career. He's only thirty one still, Luke, I mean,

1536
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:03,680
Speaker 1: you know he's been His record is nearly flawless at

1537
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 1: every stop, every major organization he's come across, you know,

1538
01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:08,920
Speaker 1: beating Darien Caldwell and back to back fights to win

1539
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:11,840
Speaker 1: the Belatori and Risen titles, and and you know even

1540
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 1: I mean, what was his only Blummis before that, Demitrius

1541
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:16,360
Speaker 1: Johnson in the last second of a fire On title

1542
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 1: about So this guy's the credentials speak for itself. This

1543
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:22,559
Speaker 1: is the I would say, Look on this card, I

1544
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:25,040
Speaker 1: think Horrorgucci is is the draw, Luke, in terms of

1545
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:27,080
Speaker 1: what what what is gonna pique my interest the moch

1546
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:30,679
Speaker 1: most I gotta see what Horgucci looks like coming after that.

1547
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:30,800
Speaker 3: That.

1548
01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:32,920
Speaker 1: Now, look, obviously, I think you know you're gonna make

1549
01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:34,760
Speaker 1: your picks. You're gonna pick Horrag Gucci in stots. That's

1550
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:36,920
Speaker 1: just what it is. But these are winnable fights for

1551
01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:39,240
Speaker 1: Archiletta in mix and I'm fired up Saturday night to

1552
01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:39,880
Speaker 1: see this, Luke.

1553
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:42,599
Speaker 2: I will be on CBS Sports HQ duty afterwards.

1554
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:46,040
Speaker 1: Are you doing an instant reaction to Belatour two seventy nine?

1555
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:46,240
Speaker 2: Look?

1556
01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:48,080
Speaker 3: Is that time? I am. I will be live after

1557
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:51,240
Speaker 3: the fights on Saturday night for Belatoor two seventy nine reaction.

1558
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:52,760
Speaker 3: So join me live then?

1559
01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:54,960
Speaker 1: All right, you're gonna have a live reaction as we

1560
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 1: mentioned for Tyson Fury and Dillian White with myself, you know,

1561
01:09:58,160 --> 01:10:02,000
Speaker 1: around six six thirty ish Eastern time on Saturday, and

1562
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 1: obviously after the late night Felatour two seventy nine. You

1563
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:08,240
Speaker 1: can dance with Luke Thomas as well. Uh, Luke, do

1564
01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:10,760
Speaker 1: you have any other comments on this card? We love

1565
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:15,640
Speaker 1: that Emmanuel Sanchez Yancy Madero's potential slugfest which currently is

1566
01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:18,280
Speaker 1: on the undercard, But how much do you think Yancey

1567
01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:19,720
Speaker 1: has left because he's gonna be fighting in front of

1568
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 1: the home crowd. You got Emmanuel Sanchez moving up and wait, dude,

1569
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:27,519
Speaker 1: this screams accident at the intersection okay of Albuquerque, only

1570
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:28,679
Speaker 1: there's no pregnant women.

1571
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 2: Luke, this is gonna be fantastic.

1572
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:32,640
Speaker 3: See here's the thing. I actually feel like Emmanuel. I

1573
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:35,479
Speaker 3: haven't seen the odds. I would imagine Sanchez is the favorite,

1574
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 3: but he's coming off of.

1575
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:39,960
Speaker 2: Minus three eighty. Minus three eighty favorite is Sanchez.

1576
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:42,360
Speaker 3: Wow, But I'll say this about Sanchez, bro he lost

1577
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:44,800
Speaker 3: to pitt Bull vas guillotine choke. Then he lost to

1578
01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:47,280
Speaker 3: Mas Burnell. Okay, Mads is really good, and then lost

1579
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 3: to Jeremy Kennedy who was also really good. But maybe

1580
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:51,439
Speaker 3: he doesn't have quite the reputations only the pit Bull does,

1581
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:54,240
Speaker 3: or even Mads Burnell. And he got out wrestled in

1582
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:55,599
Speaker 3: that one. I think he was just like, you know what,

1583
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:58,519
Speaker 3: fuck this, and he's going up against Nancy Madeiros, who

1584
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:01,280
Speaker 3: is much more of a risk taker, much more of

1585
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 3: an open striker in many ways, one of the nicest

1586
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:06,400
Speaker 3: guys in all of MMA, truly, I did like a

1587
01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 3: I did like a scrum with him one time, and

1588
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:10,479
Speaker 3: then the next time I had oh, I had him

1589
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 3: in studio. The next time I interviewed him, and he

1590
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:16,040
Speaker 3: brought me cupcakes, like just to be nice. I was like, wow,

1591
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 3: holy shit, I've never had a fighter bring me cupcakes.

1592
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:21,679
Speaker 3: That's a very nice view. Yancy Madeiro's nicest guy on Earth.

1593
01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:23,920
Speaker 3: But obviously a much more of a risk taking open style.

1594
01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:26,720
Speaker 3: So if Sanchez is really disciplined and wants to just

1595
01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:29,320
Speaker 3: wrestle with him, it's a tough fight for Madeiro's But

1596
01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:31,599
Speaker 3: who the fuck knows what Sanchez looks like three consecutive

1597
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 3: losses up a new weight class, It's an interesting fight.

1598
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:36,719
Speaker 3: And don't forget Madeiro's back in Hawaii where he is from,

1599
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:38,800
Speaker 3: fighting in front of the hometown crowd. They're gonna be

1600
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:41,920
Speaker 3: cheering him like crazy in this contest. So this will

1601
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:42,800
Speaker 3: be a fun one for sure.

1602
01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:44,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, looking forward to it.

1603
01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:45,760
Speaker 1: And as Luke would say, whenever he's asked to make

1604
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 1: a prediction, who the fuck knows? Not me, Luke, Okay,

1605
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:51,320
Speaker 1: I only can see the future on certain fights. I

1606
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:55,000
Speaker 1: knew and gone was going to wrestle apparently. Why the

1607
01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:55,559
Speaker 1: fuck am i?

1608
01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:57,960
Speaker 2: Luke? Oh, I'm an award winning co host, That's who

1609
01:11:57,960 --> 01:11:58,160
Speaker 2: I am.

1610
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:01,479
Speaker 1: You're all those joint most Joey Belchan got knocked out

1611
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:03,880
Speaker 1: last night in BKFC in like twenty three seconds.

1612
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:05,559
Speaker 2: Tough to see that, you know, I'm a big Team

1613
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:06,559
Speaker 2: Beltron fan.

1614
01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:08,599
Speaker 3: It last night?

1615
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:10,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Fort Lauderdale, how about that?

1616
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:12,840
Speaker 1: But Luke, I am here to tell you about Wednesday

1617
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:16,120
Speaker 1: nights kickoff to the new season for the PFL.

1618
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:20,320
Speaker 2: Damn was that cage smart as they as they took

1619
01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:21,160
Speaker 2: it down there, Luke.

1620
01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:25,000
Speaker 1: In the main event, we saw the well traveled Clay

1621
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:27,960
Speaker 1: Collared and Jeremy Stevens moving up in wait from his

1622
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:31,120
Speaker 1: Featherway glory in the UFC, making his PFL debut at lightweight.

1623
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:31,519
Speaker 2: Luke.

1624
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:34,559
Speaker 1: It goes down as a three round thirty to twenty

1625
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:38,240
Speaker 1: seven across the board, unanimous decision for this guy, Cassius

1626
01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:41,280
Speaker 1: Clay Collard, who won't stop being tough as dirt and

1627
01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:42,280
Speaker 1: winning big fights.

1628
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:42,920
Speaker 2: Luke.

1629
01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:45,960
Speaker 1: I watched that this morning, a hell of a scrap

1630
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:47,400
Speaker 1: and here's what I have to tell you about it.

1631
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 1: I have a lot of good things to say about

1632
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:51,439
Speaker 1: Clay Collard and how he won this, But how about

1633
01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:55,000
Speaker 1: that dude's freaking whiskers. Jeremy Stevens hit him with like

1634
01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:59,519
Speaker 1: three or four home run fight ending overhand rights, and

1635
01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:03,840
Speaker 1: your boy, Clay collar just kept coming on. Should we

1636
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:06,840
Speaker 1: stop calling this guy fun two sport journeyman now?

1637
01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:08,280
Speaker 2: Is he now an established player?

1638
01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:13,960
Speaker 3: Someone asked me on my laptchat yesterday what I call

1639
01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:15,200
Speaker 3: him world class?

1640
01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:15,479
Speaker 2: No?

1641
01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:18,360
Speaker 3: I don't think you can call him world class, but

1642
01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:23,919
Speaker 3: he's definitely His winning is not accidental. It's not accidental.

1643
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:25,960
Speaker 3: It's not like he keeps getting these lucky breaks or

1644
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:28,400
Speaker 3: something like that, like the fact that he got a

1645
01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:30,839
Speaker 3: couple of upsets in boxing. You can see, dude, because

1646
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:34,759
Speaker 3: he is durable as shit. It doesn't deter him mentally.

1647
01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:37,080
Speaker 3: And so if you get one of these inexperienced guys

1648
01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:39,200
Speaker 3: where like, oh, if you look at Clay Collared skill

1649
01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:42,240
Speaker 3: on tape, we think our guy is better, right, But

1650
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 3: does your guy have more guts? Does your guy have

1651
01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:48,400
Speaker 3: like the kind of will needed to face an opponent

1652
01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:52,280
Speaker 3: who is simply not going to be intimidated by what

1653
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:55,080
Speaker 3: you're offering him. That's a very different question, especially if

1654
01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:57,960
Speaker 3: they're you know, younger. In the case of Jeremy Stevens, Dude,

1655
01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:02,479
Speaker 3: Jeremy Stevens is a known power and he couldn't he

1656
01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:04,559
Speaker 3: couldn't really put this s guy like, he couldn't put

1657
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:06,759
Speaker 3: himway at all. Actually, I mean, I'm saying you couldn't

1658
01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 3: substantively hurt him. It was remarkable he was able to show.

1659
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:12,559
Speaker 3: So I still think we shouldn't oversell exactly what the

1660
01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:16,080
Speaker 3: ability is but I'll say he's got good ability matched

1661
01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:20,760
Speaker 3: with outrageous toughness and a total willingness for battle, and

1662
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:24,160
Speaker 3: that itself becomes a much more potent combination than what

1663
01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:26,759
Speaker 3: folks focus on, which is just the skill set.

1664
01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:29,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know how much longer he could keep

1665
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:31,080
Speaker 1: taking big shots and rebound like this. I mean, he

1666
01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:34,599
Speaker 1: learned Anthony Pettis last He's into a brawl and outlasted him,

1667
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:38,040
Speaker 1: and it was wild. This was less less wild in

1668
01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:41,360
Speaker 1: terms of the big swings of nature. But what it

1669
01:14:41,439 --> 01:14:44,200
Speaker 1: was in this case, Luke was Jeremy Stevens. As I mentioned,

1670
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:46,200
Speaker 1: trying to get inside it. I thought Jeremy Stevens like

1671
01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:48,799
Speaker 1: strike game was strong, so Clay Collard had to endure

1672
01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:52,000
Speaker 1: constant cash strikes. He ate some big punches. But Luke,

1673
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:54,880
Speaker 1: how we won it. He's just a big tough out.

1674
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:57,679
Speaker 1: He's a great combination puncher. We know the boxing background,

1675
01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:01,960
Speaker 1: and he just constantly refuses to take a step.

1676
01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:02,680
Speaker 2: Back and get overwhelmed.

1677
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:05,479
Speaker 1: And while he's coming forward, he's mixing in body shots,

1678
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:07,840
Speaker 1: he's throwing the big combinations. I know we're watching highlights

1679
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:10,479
Speaker 1: from his win against Pettis last season here, but Luke

1680
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:13,880
Speaker 1: he was able to sort of match everything Jeremy Stevens had.

1681
01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:16,200
Speaker 1: And I think if you're Stevens who put his arms

1682
01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:18,559
Speaker 1: up after thinking he might have won but then found

1683
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:20,960
Speaker 1: out he got shut out, I don't know what else

1684
01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:22,080
Speaker 1: Jeremy Stevens could have done.

1685
01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:22,320
Speaker 2: Luke.

1686
01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:24,559
Speaker 1: He hit the guy with his Sunday punch a few times.

1687
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:27,160
Speaker 1: And here's Clay Collar fighting on through.

1688
01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:28,200
Speaker 2: And even though.

1689
01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:32,439
Speaker 1: Color lost a three round close decision to Rush housh Manfio,

1690
01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:36,280
Speaker 1: the defending champion last year, he might be in play

1691
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:39,960
Speaker 1: here Luke as a contender for this PFL lightweight title.

1692
01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:41,720
Speaker 2: We'll see how it goes forward. But that's one hell

1693
01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 2: of a win.

1694
01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:45,920
Speaker 3: It is super great win to Beaten Stevens fresh off

1695
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:48,320
Speaker 3: the UFC and then Beaten Pettis basically fresh off the UFC.

1696
01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:49,760
Speaker 3: That's impressive.

1697
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:50,800
Speaker 2: I'm telling you all right.

1698
01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:53,879
Speaker 1: The co main event, Luke was the aforementioned defending champion,

1699
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:57,040
Speaker 1: housh Man Fio from Brazil, and he went in there

1700
01:15:57,040 --> 01:16:01,800
Speaker 1: against your boy Don Madge from South Africa. You had said, Luke,

1701
01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:04,479
Speaker 1: look this guy's coming on and for two rounds, Don

1702
01:16:04,479 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 1: Madge had some big moments. Look how deep of a

1703
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:10,679
Speaker 1: reference would it be to make a Madge I soaked

1704
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:14,760
Speaker 1: in it late eighties Paul Maliff commercial reference. It's just

1705
01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:16,519
Speaker 1: no one, No one in our audience would get that.

1706
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:17,839
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, no one.

1707
01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 1: Well, look he soaked in that l because how put

1708
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:22,360
Speaker 1: it on him with a one?

1709
01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:25,759
Speaker 3: Well you know, I mean, yes, it's an DL. But dude, dude,

1710
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:29,160
Speaker 3: hold on. Madge won the first two rounds cleanly, like

1711
01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:33,720
Speaker 3: he showed his quality, no doubt about it. But in

1712
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:35,799
Speaker 3: the third round, I'll give it to man fil Dude,

1713
01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:38,439
Speaker 3: he doesn't have just big power. It carries late. Your

1714
01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 3: margin of era with that motherfucker in the third round

1715
01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:45,120
Speaker 3: is not that great, and Madge paid for it. But

1716
01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:46,559
Speaker 3: like I think if you walked away from that fight

1717
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:49,600
Speaker 3: being like, oh, Luke said Madge was good, Madge is bad,

1718
01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:51,080
Speaker 3: that's not the takeaway here at all.

1719
01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:52,680
Speaker 2: No, it's not.

1720
01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:56,400
Speaker 1: So I think the the rightful question should be forget

1721
01:16:56,439 --> 01:16:57,960
Speaker 1: Don Madge for a second and we'll see if he

1722
01:16:57,960 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 1: can bounce back this season and still make some noise,

1723
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:03,000
Speaker 1: maybe even get back into a rematch with Manfield when things.

1724
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:05,160
Speaker 2: Are all said and done. But Luke, how good is

1725
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:06,599
Speaker 2: fucking househ Manfiel?

1726
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:10,280
Speaker 3: The defending Championshire I have I have underrated this guy enough,

1727
01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:12,000
Speaker 3: Like you beat Don Madge the way you beat him,

1728
01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 3: which you know you got, you got I want to say,

1729
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:15,280
Speaker 3: your ass kick. But you lost that fight up until

1730
01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 3: the third and h then you just won all of

1731
01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:20,840
Speaker 3: a sudden power like that dude, he's he's a force

1732
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:22,679
Speaker 3: to be reckoned with because, as I mentioned, he doesn't

1733
01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:26,040
Speaker 3: just have big power, it carries consistently in fights in

1734
01:17:26,120 --> 01:17:29,360
Speaker 3: the later rounds, and he can absolutely snatch victory from

1735
01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:32,439
Speaker 3: the jaws of defeat. Is his win of the season

1736
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:36,080
Speaker 3: last season was in no way accidental. I'm telling you, guys,

1737
01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:38,400
Speaker 3: you beat a guy the quality of Don Madge, it's

1738
01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:41,040
Speaker 3: not easy to do so for me. If he wasn't

1739
01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:44,280
Speaker 3: your prohibitive favorite before, boy he is now. I don't

1740
01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:46,280
Speaker 3: know who in the rest of this tournament I would

1741
01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:48,160
Speaker 3: point to as like, Oh, that's the guy that's gonna

1742
01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 3: beat him. Who would it be? I don't know who

1743
01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:50,519
Speaker 3: that is.

1744
01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:54,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know either, Luke, although he did need

1745
01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:58,400
Speaker 1: a split decision when manfil over Anthony Pettis last year.

1746
01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:01,840
Speaker 1: You know, and I think the performance here from Clay

1747
01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:04,080
Speaker 1: Collard shows you that you'd definitely be interested in a

1748
01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:07,479
Speaker 1: Manfield Collared rematch. But Luke, as I look at this draw,

1749
01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:10,800
Speaker 1: Manfield gets four points. He's currently in first place in

1750
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:13,440
Speaker 1: the division. You got Clay Collared, you got Alex Martinez

1751
01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:16,200
Speaker 1: who won his debut fight. You also have a m

1752
01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:19,679
Speaker 1: Olivier Obon Mercier Luke who had a very good looking

1753
01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:24,639
Speaker 1: wind to open this main card against Naton Schultz from Brazil, who.

1754
01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 2: Is also a decorated PFL fighter. So this could be

1755
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:29,760
Speaker 2: a This could turn out to be one of.

1756
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 1: The more fun seasons in terms of the divisions here

1757
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:33,719
Speaker 1: in the PFL.

1758
01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:35,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, Naton Schultz, by the way, one of these guys,

1759
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:39,040
Speaker 3: totally unheralded. This fuckers won this tournament I think twice. Yeah,

1760
01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:41,880
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, like just just banking stupid checks.

1761
01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:44,800
Speaker 3: He would never get in another organization. That's all I'm

1762
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:46,519
Speaker 3: telling you. That's going to be a real big thing.

1763
01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:48,599
Speaker 3: Like these fighters who are like, man, I'm not even

1764
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:50,720
Speaker 3: trying to worry about how many interviews I do or

1765
01:18:51,120 --> 01:18:53,120
Speaker 3: how many people stop me in the airport for photos.

1766
01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:56,040
Speaker 3: I'm trying to get paid. I understand that completely. That's

1767
01:18:56,040 --> 01:18:57,920
Speaker 3: a smart way of going about it, totally.

1768
01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:03,240
Speaker 1: And so Mercer took home a split decision over Naton Schultz.

1769
01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:05,599
Speaker 1: Luca was twenty nine to twenty eight on all three

1770
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:08,320
Speaker 1: scorecards in the end. So the point here is that

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01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:12,040
Speaker 1: lightweight Scott, all these guys we mentioned, and Anthony Pettis

1772
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:14,800
Speaker 1: and you know, Jeremy Stevens and Don Madge trying to

1773
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:17,439
Speaker 1: come back off losses and Miles Price from Ireland.

1774
01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:20,080
Speaker 2: So this should be a fun sort of who comes

1775
01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:21,880
Speaker 2: out of here in the end. But Luke, this card

1776
01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:25,280
Speaker 2: also pfl One on Wednesday night gave us shoe face,

1777
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:28,120
Speaker 2: putting it freaking on. He was a monster betting favorite

1778
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:31,680
Speaker 2: against Delon Monty. Dude, he needed twenty nine seconds for

1779
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:33,240
Speaker 2: a brabo choke.

1780
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:38,320
Speaker 1: Luke, just like that, should we also start recalibrating how

1781
01:19:38,360 --> 01:19:42,400
Speaker 1: we talk about shoeface the screwface there from Mark for

1782
01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:43,720
Speaker 1: Death with Steven Seagal.

1783
01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:45,920
Speaker 3: Well at the same time, you know he's not fighting

1784
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:48,040
Speaker 3: the same level of competition he was in the UFC,

1785
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:49,880
Speaker 3: But you mean, this is what I was trying to

1786
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:52,400
Speaker 3: tell people about, Like Mma, like, there's lots of ways

1787
01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:54,760
Speaker 3: to appreciate lots of different kinds of quality, and it

1788
01:19:54,760 --> 01:19:57,280
Speaker 3: doesn't have to be the best quality every time. It

1789
01:19:57,360 --> 01:19:59,120
Speaker 3: just needs to be of a high quality, and there's

1790
01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:02,559
Speaker 3: no doubt about it. She faces a high quality fighter.

1791
01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:05,919
Speaker 3: He's a very very good fighter, and his submissions are insane,

1792
01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:08,760
Speaker 3: and you know, to get a Bravo choke is it's

1793
01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:10,280
Speaker 3: the same as An and the Conda in terms of

1794
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:12,120
Speaker 3: wrapping it up, but rather than the arm going around

1795
01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:13,880
Speaker 3: the neck first and tying up behind the lat, it

1796
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:15,680
Speaker 3: goes behind the lat first and ties up around the

1797
01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:17,439
Speaker 3: top of the neck. Anyway, the point I'm trying to

1798
01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:20,360
Speaker 3: make here is dude just has a full array of submissions.

1799
01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:22,640
Speaker 3: He can snatch him very quickly. He's physical for the

1800
01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:24,840
Speaker 3: weight class too. I think he's getting better. I love

1801
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:26,320
Speaker 3: what he's doing right now, and good for him that

1802
01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:27,200
Speaker 3: he's getting paid too.

1803
01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:32,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely there, Sorry, Luke, everything.

1804
01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:33,639
Speaker 3: A heart attack for a text message or something?

1805
01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:36,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, almost, but we're okay, well, okay, we're gonna make

1806
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:37,120
Speaker 1: it everything all right.

1807
01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:41,360
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll see what happens, Luke. So the PFL had

1808
01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:42,720
Speaker 2: a fun look. It wasn't bad, Luke.

1809
01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:45,120
Speaker 1: Okay, dude, I'm telling you, I like this announced him.

1810
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:47,439
Speaker 1: I know I always forget Sean O'Connell's name as an

1811
01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:50,320
Speaker 1: ex fighter transitioning now into a play by play role,

1812
01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:52,880
Speaker 1: but you know him and Randy Katore is Ken flows

1813
01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:53,160
Speaker 1: still there?

1814
01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:54,160
Speaker 2: I remember hearing his voice.

1815
01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:56,640
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes he's still there. Ken Filow, Randy and

1816
01:20:56,680 --> 01:20:58,800
Speaker 3: then Sean who won the whole thing.

1817
01:20:59,080 --> 01:20:59,519
Speaker 2: I pulled the.

1818
01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:01,360
Speaker 1: Luke tom Us and have the volume down as I

1819
01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:05,040
Speaker 1: was watching these fights. But a strong opening statement here.

1820
01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:06,759
Speaker 2: We'll see as the season continues.

1821
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:09,320
Speaker 1: Luke, we got to be relatively quick today because I've

1822
01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:13,040
Speaker 1: got a big time CBS Sports HQ hit. Apparently after

1823
01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:15,600
Speaker 1: the show wraps, but we do one other segment to

1824
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:19,519
Speaker 1: close out Friday's morning Coombat at gmail dot com is

1825
01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:23,479
Speaker 1: this email address for you to watch our show, maybe

1826
01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:25,719
Speaker 1: disagree with something we say, and then have the balls

1827
01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:28,360
Speaker 1: to grab your receipt, step up to the plate and

1828
01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:44,920
Speaker 1: tell us you're dead wrong, Ow, Luke, We'll start with this.

1829
01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:47,519
Speaker 1: This is from a fellow named MHD. He says, at

1830
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:51,800
Speaker 1: forty minutes of the postfight show for Bellatoor two seventy seven,

1831
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:53,840
Speaker 1: that was last Friday, Luke me and the drug rug

1832
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:56,800
Speaker 1: BC was sitting there in his shorts showing his BD

1833
01:21:57,120 --> 01:21:59,360
Speaker 1: and he said that Aaron Pico lost his pro debut

1834
01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:05,600
Speaker 1: to Ian Freeman. Ian Freeman's last fight was in twenty thirteen.

1835
01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:08,680
Speaker 1: What BC wanted to say was, Zach Freeman, keep up

1836
01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:11,560
Speaker 1: the amazing work, BC, and may all of your package

1837
01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:15,840
Speaker 1: stay hidden. Okay, that's what's well done. That's that's I'll

1838
01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:18,639
Speaker 1: take that out. Okay, I will take that out, all right.

1839
01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:21,720
Speaker 2: I always wanted the rematch there between him and Pico.

1840
01:22:22,240 --> 01:22:24,240
Speaker 3: Did you, Yeah, Zach Freeman. I used to call on

1841
01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:26,240
Speaker 3: on my radio show all the time. The dude still

1842
01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:27,679
Speaker 3: does what he does. I was still like a laying

1843
01:22:27,720 --> 01:22:30,800
Speaker 3: carpet or whatever. He's just a regular old dude. He

1844
01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:34,200
Speaker 3: better fighter than he ever got credit. But yeah, it'd

1845
01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:35,400
Speaker 3: be well, I mean, at this point, I don't know

1846
01:22:35,400 --> 01:22:36,840
Speaker 3: what kind of sense that would make. But at the

1847
01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:38,920
Speaker 3: time it was a bad, bad fight for Pico.

1848
01:22:39,000 --> 01:22:42,000
Speaker 1: Jesus, most legends fade away and they're laying something. Luke,

1849
01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:44,920
Speaker 1: your brother in law Pipe, that's what he's laying.

1850
01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:45,720
Speaker 2: Right, You know what I mean?

1851
01:22:46,479 --> 01:22:48,639
Speaker 3: You're an idiot?

1852
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:49,960
Speaker 2: Wow?

1853
01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:52,960
Speaker 1: All right, all attempts at comedy are met with a

1854
01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 1: with a closed door.

1855
01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:56,559
Speaker 2: That's great. This is from Callum during Mondays. Have you

1856
01:22:56,600 --> 01:22:57,160
Speaker 2: seen this shit?

1857
01:22:57,240 --> 01:23:00,599
Speaker 1: When speaking about Chris Barnett's Spanish hair at Edge meaning

1858
01:23:00,640 --> 01:23:03,280
Speaker 1: he was born there in Spain. BC mentioned that Michael

1859
01:23:03,320 --> 01:23:06,920
Speaker 1: Bisbee was born in Germany. BC, You're dead wrong. He was,

1860
01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:09,920
Speaker 1: in fact born in the island of Cypress. Luke, I'll

1861
01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:10,519
Speaker 1: take that out.

1862
01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:12,240
Speaker 2: You're right. I guess you're right.

1863
01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:14,280
Speaker 1: I I I just always thought for some reason it

1864
01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:15,719
Speaker 1: was Germany in the back of my mind.

1865
01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:19,679
Speaker 3: Oh, pop, quiz, name another fighter from Cypress who fought

1866
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:24,280
Speaker 3: in the UFC. Can you do that? No, I can

1867
01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:27,240
Speaker 3: do that. I forget hold on now. It was Constantine.

1868
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:29,639
Speaker 3: What was his name? He fought Luke Rockhold in Georgia

1869
01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:31,719
Speaker 3: and coming to Georgia not.

1870
01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:38,240
Speaker 2: Center Costs, Phi costUS Philip. I remember that fellow.

1871
01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:40,680
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, he was from Cress. That was back when

1872
01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:41,800
Speaker 1: Luke Rockold was good.

1873
01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:43,880
Speaker 3: Luke he was, he was the man at that time.

1874
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:45,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was pretty damn good. I'll tell you that much.

1875
01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:47,759
Speaker 2: Adam says. Good day, Donks on Monday.

1876
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:50,840
Speaker 1: Very serious and very well done breakdown of the Daniel

1877
01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:54,680
Speaker 1: Kinahan shout out by Mounir Laz and MMA Media's role

1878
01:23:54,680 --> 01:23:57,320
Speaker 1: of because of course they're referencing Luke's extra credit video

1879
01:23:57,520 --> 01:23:59,880
Speaker 1: that you can catch on YouTube right now. Luke decided

1880
01:23:59,880 --> 01:24:04,320
Speaker 1: to extend a quote Olive Leaf before going into more detail.

1881
01:24:05,080 --> 01:24:07,080
Speaker 1: I can understand why Luke might want to decrease the

1882
01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:09,760
Speaker 1: amount of peace he is extending in this situation, but

1883
01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:12,040
Speaker 1: the saying is extending in alive branch.

1884
01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:14,400
Speaker 2: Yes, I get it, Luke. You had no sleep.

1885
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:17,280
Speaker 1: Your kid woke you up by jumping directly on your nuts.

1886
01:24:17,479 --> 01:24:20,200
Speaker 1: You were hungover from the Michelo Ultra on the plane

1887
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:24,000
Speaker 1: the day before settling into that Delta eight seat, and

1888
01:24:24,040 --> 01:24:26,639
Speaker 1: you were holding back the geyser of shit you needed

1889
01:24:26,640 --> 01:24:29,600
Speaker 1: to expel during the recording. But Luke dead wrong is

1890
01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:31,679
Speaker 1: still dead wrong? Well not well done, Adam.

1891
01:24:31,920 --> 01:24:34,160
Speaker 3: That's a great one. That's a great one. I said

1892
01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:35,599
Speaker 3: it wrong. All these guys are.

1893
01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:37,880
Speaker 2: Three for three so far. All right, here we go from.

1894
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:40,280
Speaker 3: Good addition getting fucking smacked around here.

1895
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:43,040
Speaker 1: This is Paul from Texas. He claims he's the guy

1896
01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:46,559
Speaker 1: with the bad Komura grips, but wins from the fan

1897
01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:47,360
Speaker 1: subs a while back.

1898
01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:48,400
Speaker 2: I don't know what that means, Luke.

1899
01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:51,960
Speaker 1: During episode two ninety one, BC stated that Antonio Carlos

1900
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:54,800
Speaker 1: Junior shared that he paid more in taxes from his

1901
01:24:54,840 --> 01:24:57,920
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one PFL season than his UFC earnings.

1902
01:24:57,960 --> 01:25:01,080
Speaker 2: The previous year. It's a correction here. Carlos shared that

1903
01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:01,840
Speaker 2: he paid.

1904
01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:07,280
Speaker 1: More in taxes than his whole UFC career of seven years,

1905
01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:11,040
Speaker 1: So I got that wrong. Shoe Face continued in sharing

1906
01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:14,599
Speaker 1: that his twenty twenty one PFL earnings doubled what he

1907
01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:18,960
Speaker 1: made in his seven year UFC career because of his

1908
01:25:19,120 --> 01:25:21,200
Speaker 1: lowly Ultimate Fighter contract.

1909
01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:23,240
Speaker 3: That's right, he was a ten fight deal from the

1910
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Speaker 3: Ultimate Fighter or either Brazil. I think. I mean, what

1911
01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:26,280
Speaker 3: the fuck you know?

1912
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:28,840
Speaker 1: This is part of them a junkie article from the

1913
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:33,439
Speaker 1: Latin BFF of the show. What does Latin BFF mean, Oh,

1914
01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:36,439
Speaker 1: Danny Sigurra. They're saying from your Latin BFF, Denny.

1915
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Speaker 3: Yes, Yes, is in fact my Latin BFF. Yes.

1916
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:42,800
Speaker 1: And this man says, uh, just miss you guys in

1917
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Speaker 1: Arlington last week.

1918
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Speaker 2: Much love. It's Paul, Thank you, Paul. Okay, what is this? Longhorns?

1919
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Speaker 3: Arlington Lexa sucks, dude.

1920
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Speaker 1: I mean it wasn't money, as you would say, Luke,

1921
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Speaker 1: Just like I told you, Tampa was good, and then

1922
01:25:55,840 --> 01:25:57,440
Speaker 1: you were like, tipe, Okay.

1923
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Speaker 3: Tampa is a lot better than Arlington. I didn't them

1924
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Speaker 3: were like I love Tampa. I didn't love Tampa.

1925
01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:03,679
Speaker 2: But I like Saint Pete really to be fairy.

1926
01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:05,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, say I hear, I see Peter. I'm just

1927
01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:08,560
Speaker 3: telling you Arlington, Texas fuck that place blows.

1928
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Speaker 2: All right.

1929
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Speaker 1: Finally, this is Danny saying hello, Luke and BC. While

1930
01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:15,960
Speaker 1: talking about Jessica Androge her record at about thirteen thirty

1931
01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:19,760
Speaker 1: of Wednesday Show, Luke states how strong her record is

1932
01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:23,679
Speaker 1: at one twenty five, then goes on to name Rose

1933
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Speaker 1: one and two and way Lee as one twenty five fights. Sorry, pal,

1934
01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:33,280
Speaker 1: those took place at one fifteen. You're dead wrong, all right, Okay, I.

1935
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Speaker 3: Didn't mean to do that, but yeah, if I did that,

1936
01:26:35,320 --> 01:26:36,719
Speaker 3: I'm super fucking wrong.

1937
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Speaker 1: So very respectful presentations of our errors there by our

1938
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Speaker 1: team there, So thank you very much.

1939
01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:43,719
Speaker 3: You want to see the people who wrote me after

1940
01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:47,000
Speaker 3: the video I made on lezz and Kenahan, I got

1941
01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:49,200
Speaker 3: a lot of unhinged emails. Let me tell you.

1942
01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:51,679
Speaker 2: People supporting organized crime, Luke.

1943
01:26:52,640 --> 01:26:55,400
Speaker 3: Uh kind of yeah, A lot of people who have

1944
01:26:55,439 --> 01:26:57,320
Speaker 3: failed basic morality tests. Yes.

1945
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Speaker 1: To be fair, though, Luke, we do in our society,

1946
01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:05,559
Speaker 1: usually through cinematic portrayals, worship the Tony Montanas of the world.

1947
01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:08,360
Speaker 1: The people who are able to break the rules of

1948
01:27:08,880 --> 01:27:14,840
Speaker 1: normal law create their own business in which there's you know, drugs, money,

1949
01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:18,200
Speaker 1: and murder. We tend to look at those guys as heroes, Luke.

1950
01:27:18,240 --> 01:27:21,560
Speaker 1: All the movies I watch are neo noir crime thrillers,

1951
01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:24,679
Speaker 1: which usually involves some badass villains. So maybe it's Luke

1952
01:27:25,120 --> 01:27:26,680
Speaker 1: the society's fault.

1953
01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:29,320
Speaker 3: You see. I love the East nineteen ninety nine album

1954
01:27:29,400 --> 01:27:32,200
Speaker 3: from Bone Thugs and Harmony, especially the song down seventy one.

1955
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Speaker 3: But I'm not going on any crime spreeze because I

1956
01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:37,800
Speaker 3: like them. It's very, very easy to make a distinction there.

1957
01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:39,920
Speaker 2: I'm not here to defend Daniel Luke.

1958
01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:43,360
Speaker 3: Okay, you're just here to say that we'd love violence.

1959
01:27:43,880 --> 01:27:47,400
Speaker 2: We do as a society. Most people choose wake up

1960
01:27:47,439 --> 01:27:48,200
Speaker 2: and choose violence.

1961
01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:51,320
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, Luke, we choose to give you an award winning show,

1962
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Speaker 1: a show that is over right now. We got to

1963
01:27:53,080 --> 01:27:57,000
Speaker 1: run It's BCNLT shot out of course to our great crew, Malchus, Showtime,

1964
01:27:57,080 --> 01:27:59,840
Speaker 1: CBS Sports. I think was Corey in Long Island Luke

1965
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Speaker 1: on the Ones and Twos today, although they didn't jump

1966
01:28:01,880 --> 01:28:05,120
Speaker 1: in on that small screen and show us low t charisma.

1967
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, they're so good on camera.

1968
01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:11,200
Speaker 2: You know, they're probably so pissed. They're like, you guys

1969
01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:13,080
Speaker 2: forced us to come on camera. You're always trying to

1970
01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:13,639
Speaker 2: force us.

1971
01:28:13,800 --> 01:28:15,880
Speaker 3: We did no. In fairness, we did try and force

1972
01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:18,040
Speaker 3: them on camera, but I don't know if that was

1973
01:28:18,200 --> 01:28:19,759
Speaker 3: I mean that maybe that was a good IDEABC.

1974
01:28:19,880 --> 01:28:21,599
Speaker 2: Time will tell, Yeah, time will tell.

1975
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Speaker 1: Love those guys, although shout out the gaff who has

1976
01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:25,960
Speaker 1: a real day off today, Mikey Morms as well.

1977
01:28:25,960 --> 01:28:26,360
Speaker 3: My boys.

1978
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Speaker 1: Luke, that's it for the show. You can subscribe to Showtime.

1979
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Speaker 1: Go to showtime dot com get.

1980
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Speaker 2: Your thirty three days.

1981
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:34,040
Speaker 1: Why not watch a Bellator weekend boxing coming all the

1982
01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:36,280
Speaker 1: great stuff you're gonna get there. Our merch store, as

1983
01:28:36,280 --> 01:28:38,439
Speaker 1: you can follow and like us at those addresses below,

1984
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Speaker 1: is Morningcombat dot Store. Look at the very least you

1985
01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:44,759
Speaker 1: may not agree with the designs, but it's high quality merch. Okay,

1986
01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:46,679
Speaker 1: that's the thing about our j Luke. He's not giving

1987
01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:48,880
Speaker 1: you those T shirts that like one wash and they're

1988
01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:49,519
Speaker 1: falling apart.

1989
01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:52,559
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. We're washed, but not the clothing. Okay,

1990
01:28:52,600 --> 01:28:53,880
Speaker 2: that's right. We are.

1991
01:28:53,920 --> 01:28:57,000
Speaker 3: We were written hard and put away wet. These clothes

1992
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Speaker 3: are fresh and Crisp all Right.

1993
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Speaker 2: Quick reminder Sat. Saturday dinner time on.

1994
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Speaker 1: The East Coast BC Live reaction from Tyson Fury Dillion White.

1995
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Speaker 2: Later Saturday night, following the conclusion.

1996
01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:11,719
Speaker 1: Of Belatour on Showtime, Luke Thomas gonna recap I'm sure

1997
01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:14,280
Speaker 1: both nights of Belatour and hit all the high notes.

1998
01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:15,000
Speaker 2: For you, so that we are.

1999
01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:19,160
Speaker 1: We are Morning Combat, we win awards, We're fantastic. I mean,

2000
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Speaker 1: we're fucking incredible.

2001
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Speaker 2: Luke. It's great, right, it's so good. It's so good, right,

2002
01:29:23,479 --> 01:29:25,519
Speaker 2: I mean, how fun is it hosting this show? Luke?

2003
01:29:25,640 --> 01:29:31,120
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, it's good. It's good.

2004
01:29:30,760 --> 01:29:33,400
Speaker 1: For the great, Luke Thomas. I am Brian Campbell. Enjoy

2005
01:29:33,479 --> 01:29:35,920
Speaker 1: the fights, spay your animals or something like that, and

2006
01:29:35,960 --> 01:29:39,479
Speaker 1: may all your hoes leave you alone, Luke, because we're married,

2007
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Speaker 1: we out.

2008
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah,