1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: What do you love the most in the world Your children. 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: I do, and I will do anything to protect my twins. 3 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: Go to crime stops here dot com. It is a 4 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: five part series with action information that you can use 5 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: to change your life and protect your child's life. Find 6 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: out how to protect your child out and about at 7 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: the mall, at the store, at the grocery store, and 8 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: the parking lot at home. Find out about protection regarding 9 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 1: babysitters in daycare, even online cyber security. Oh yes, my 10 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,639 Speaker 1: children are online, and you better bet I'm doing everything 11 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: within my power to protect them. Join the Justice Nation. 12 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: Crime stops here dot com Crime stories with Nancy Grace. 13 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: With regard to the suspect taking great efforts to minimize 14 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: his forensic footprint at the crime scene, they include things 15 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: like not leaving trace evidence by changing his physical appearance 16 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: like shaving his head not to leave hair behind. We 17 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: again will not be making any more comments about this 18 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 1: to protect the integrity of the case at this time. 19 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: Nothing in this case shows the suspect knew anyone at 20 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: the class home or at any time had contact with 21 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: anyone in the class family. The suspect had specific intentions 22 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: to kidnap Jamie and went to great links to prepare 23 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: to take her. The suspect did work at the Genio 24 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: turkey plant over three years ago for less than two 25 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: days and does not appear to have any contact did 26 00:01:56,200 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: not have any contact with Jamie's parents, who also worked 27 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: at the turkey plant. You are hearing the very latestets 28 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: from the Baron County Sheriff christ fits Gerald at a 29 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 1: pressor today. The man who targets a teen girl murders 30 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: both her mom and her dad and takes her, leaving 31 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: behind no trace, keeping her in a squalid cabin for 32 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: nearly three months eighty eight days is in court for 33 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: a first appearance. This is details emerging about the squalid 34 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: cell strown with filthy sheets, stuffed toys, a Monopoly game 35 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: where this twenty one year old loner kept this little 36 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: girl a prisoner in the Wisconsin Woods. I'm Nancy Grace. 37 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: This is crime Stories. Thank you for being with us 38 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: with me. Veteran trial lawyer, family a divorce lawyer. Kathleen Murphy, 39 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 1: New York psychologist Karen st Arc at Karenstark dot com. 40 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: Francy Haggs, former federal prosecutor tzar of child recovering child 41 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: Protection for the federal government. Renowned forensics expert, author of 42 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: Blood Beneath My Feet on Amazon, Joseph Scott Morgan, Professor Forensics, 43 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: Jacksonville State University, joining me right now, Crime online dot 44 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: Com investigator reporter John Lmley. John, First of all, why 45 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: is the perp? The alleged perp in court today? This 46 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:38,279 Speaker 1: is his first court appearance since being arrested on Thursday, 47 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: and over the weekend, authorities have been scrambled, scrambling to 48 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: learn more and more about this rather unremarkable guy. Unremarkable 49 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: until the night in October that he killed Jamie Klaus's 50 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: parents and abducted the young child, the thirteen year old. 51 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: What can you tell us? What do we know right now, 52 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: John Linley? Well, we know that Jake Thomas Patterson grew 53 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: up in Gordon. It's a sprawling township of just several 54 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: hundred people, tucked into an evergreen forest. It's about thirty 55 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: five miles south of Lake Superior. It's wild country. Roadside 56 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: signs admonished motorists to share the pavement with ATVs, of 57 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 1: which there are more than cars. The few neighbors who 58 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: know Patterson's family say that he grew up in a 59 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: cabin in a remote development that's a mix of year 60 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: round residence and people that are just there during the summer. 61 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 1: It's about ten miles outside of the proper city limits 62 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: of Gordon. Patterson's high school teachers barely even remember the 63 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 1: now twenty one year old man who graduated only three 64 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: years ago and say they didn't realize that he still 65 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: lived in the area. Wow, we are learning that in 66 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: that s salad cabin there was a guide, a military 67 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 1: guide to survival. There was a monopoly game set up 68 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: on the floor. What more do we know about the 69 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 1: cabin where he allegedly kept the teen girl Jamie class 70 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: prisoner for eighty eight days? What more do we know? 71 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: John Limley? It's a rather ramshackle cabin. Visitors, When you 72 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: first walk up, there's a battered sign above the homes 73 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: front door that reads Patterson's Retreat because it's been in 74 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: the family for some time. Another one says welcome. But 75 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: the grounds are littered with junk cars, rusty bikes and garbage, 76 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: and the cabins insides are rather tattered to. In fact, 77 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: in the main living space, the living area, the living room, 78 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: and the kitchen, it's just bare insulation that's over the ceiling. 79 00:05:55,600 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 1: It's just a tangle of a mess. Really, it just 80 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: looks like no one has really cared for the property 81 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: in quite some time. Strong with stuff east that's what 82 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: we call the little stuffed animals, soft toys, filthy bedding 83 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: and sheets, women's clothes. It is a squalid prison. The 84 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: den has a scruffy mattress, cuddly stuffed pig. Is that 85 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 1: what she looked at every day? Looking at that exposed insulation, 86 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: there were kids backpacks piled up in one corner. I'm 87 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: looking at the photos right now that I have spotted 88 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: on Daily Mail. It's just a big, huge mess. This 89 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 1: guy's creepy layer. Right now, it is under intense scrutiny 90 00:06:55,760 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: to forensics expert and Professor Forensics, Jacksonville State University, Joseph 91 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 1: Scott Morgan, what are they doing right now? The whole 92 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: place is still cordened off. Right now, they're going through 93 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:13,559 Speaker 1: this place room by room, football the inch by inch, 94 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: documenting every item in this cabin nancy. And also they're 95 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: looking for traces of what the life would have been 96 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: like for them existing in here for eighty eight days, 97 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: looking for tie backs relative to this little girl in 98 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:34,239 Speaker 1: that cabin room. Remember she was found outside of the cabin. 99 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: I'm sure that the defense attorneys will make hay over 100 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: this was she actually ever there? That sort of thing. 101 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: So they'll be looking for trace evidence that would tie 102 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: back to her specifically, and anything else that might give 103 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: them an indication as to what was going on in 104 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: that cabin. Well, this is what else we know to 105 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: Francy Hayes, former federal prosecutor appointed as the czar for 106 00:07:56,320 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: the federal government regarding bringing children and home that have 107 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: been abducted or mistreated. Francy, we know that the people 108 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: that found her wandering a retired social worker. She said 109 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: that she takes her to a home, says, BAM's on 110 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: the door. This is Jamie Class called nine one one. 111 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: They immediately get the girl in and say get a gun, 112 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: because they understood it was conveyed to them that this 113 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: perb was out looking for her, that he had figured 114 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: out she had escaped. He was out looking for her, 115 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: and he had already killed a mom and a dad 116 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: for no reason. People. Apparently he didn't even know he 117 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: had already gunned them down. So the first thing they 118 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: do is they say get a gun. He's out looking 119 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: for her. Well, Nancy, I think this is one of 120 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: the scariest things about this whole ordeal for this poor child. 121 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: She thinks she's being rescued, and her rescuers feel like 122 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: they are now at risk and they were. Apparently this 123 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: offender was literally hunting for Jamie after she escaped, just 124 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: like he had hunted for her from the beginning when 125 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: he burst into her parents' home, chilled her parents in 126 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: cold blood, and snatched her away to this disgusting remote cabin. 127 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 1: It's just awesome. I sat on this couch a couple 128 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: of months ago and you said you would never stop 129 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: giving up hope. And how here we are. What was it? Hope? Prayers? 130 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: It's not, yeah, prayers from our family. We got prayers 131 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: from everybody. I mean, everybody telling us they're praying for us, 132 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: praying for us, and you know, it's the power of prayer. 133 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:51,439 Speaker 1: And it worked. I mean, how she got out, we 134 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: don't know that yet. You know, wasn't just on our own. 135 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:02,719 Speaker 1: So yeah, it was amazing in this community. I mean, 136 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: if it wasn't for everybody posting posters and doing everything 137 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 1: to help us, every little thing that helped, we may 138 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: not be doing this right now, so big thank here 139 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: to everybody. Twenty one year old Jake Patterson lives down 140 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: the road behind me, oh Claire Acres here in the 141 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: city of Gordon. It's believed the house that is owned 142 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: by his fathers where he held thirteen year old Jamie 143 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: class captive for eighty eight days. We do know that 144 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: Patterson worked in the city of Baron for at least 145 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: two days. The city of Baron is where Jamie is from, 146 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: at the city's largest employer, the Gennio plant. That's also 147 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,319 Speaker 1: the place where Jamie's parents worked. Right now, authorities did 148 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: not believe that Patterson and her parents crossed paths there. 149 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 1: Now we do know that Patterson has no criminal history 150 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: here in the state of Wisconsin. He went to school nearby. 151 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: The superintendent of Northwood School says Patterson was a quiet 152 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: but good student who had great friends. Doctor Jean Saram 153 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 1: says Patterson was a member of the quiz bowl team 154 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: that repeted against other schools in the area. The house 155 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: where Jamie was taken after she escaped from Patterson was 156 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: the home of his middle school teacher. She says he 157 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 1: was eleven or twelve when he was in her class. Yeah, 158 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: and I actually didn't even know he lived in my neighborhood. 159 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: Were relatively new to this neighborhood, So until Jamie said 160 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: it's Jake Patterson, I would have had no idea, I guess, 161 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: just disbelief, kind of shock that a kid that we 162 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 1: all knew could have done this. Shock is right, and 163 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: it was shocking and wonderful when Jamie Class was recovered today, 164 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: her alleged kidnapper and the murderer of both of her 165 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:45,719 Speaker 1: parents in court. You were hearing miss Kasinskis who first 166 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: called nine one one his middle school teacher. The woman 167 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: that first encountered Jamie Klaus wandering outside in the cold, filthy, skinny, 168 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:00,199 Speaker 1: her hair matted, wearing she's too big for her feet. 169 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: That woman, the retired social worker, literally saved her life. 170 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: When they take her to this home bamming on the door, 171 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: they immediately say, get a gun because they know this 172 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: guy is hunting for her. A quiz bowled team member, quiet, 173 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: what more do we know about this guy? We also 174 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 1: know that, according to the sheriff, Jamie Kloss's parents were 175 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: killed because they were a quote barrier to her kidnapping. 176 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: You don't think they would have gotten down though. He 177 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: would have gotten down those neighbors to get her back. 178 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: I've got no doubt in my mind that he would. 179 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: Kathleen Murphy, North Carolina, family divorced lawyer Karen Start New 180 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: York psychologist, Francy Haggs, former federal prosecutor, J. Scott Morgan 181 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 1: forensics expert, and John Limley Crime online dot Com investigative 182 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: reporter to Karen Stark, what are you hearing in psychological 183 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: speak about this guy? A loner, a white male boy. 184 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: We're not surprised about that. Statistically, that's normally the case. 185 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: But taking her to this remote cabin. It's a town 186 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: of about six hundred and forty five people, about eighty 187 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:17,439 Speaker 1: miles from Baron, Wisconsin, where she was kidnapped in her home. 188 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: And you know, Karen, ever since this has happened, don't laugh. 189 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: I've been sleeping in the room with the twins. I 190 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: know it's crazy. I know it's crazy. I know this 191 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: is an isolated incident, but I just can't take it 192 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: in that this guy with no connection to that family 193 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,719 Speaker 1: at all. They keep making a big deal out of 194 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 1: the fact that he worked one day at the Geneo 195 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: processing plant where her parents had worked for many, many years, 196 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: but there's no indication whatsoever they ever even crossed paths. 197 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 1: He had to have seen her at one of her 198 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: dance events or a cross country running. She did that 199 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: too with her school, maybe somehow through the church. But 200 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: they couldn't have gone to the same church because he's 201 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: eighty miles away. So how did he come, how did 202 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 1: he find her to target her? And what are you learning, 203 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: Karen start? What's your interpretation when the sheriff says her parents, 204 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: her mother and father, the ones she loved the most 205 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: now dead, were killed because they were a quote barrier 206 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: to her kidnapper Natzie. How many times do we hear 207 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: about supposedly quiet, good neighbor people are shocked and it's 208 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: somebody who is ruthless who has I mean, this guy 209 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: did anything that he possibly could to kidnap this girl. 210 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: He used a shotgun to crash through the lock in 211 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: that door and get to her. So he was desperate 212 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: to have her, and obviously he targeted her and she 213 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: had to be his. He had to own her and 214 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: take her to his home. I have no doubt if 215 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: he had found her this had been would be a 216 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: totally different scenario, and she would not be with us 217 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: right now. To Francie, takes amazing that she was able 218 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: to escape from that situation. To Francie Haig's former federal prosecutor, 219 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: the statistics are very, very bleak. We're talking about stranger abduction, 220 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: not parental abduction. The noncastelil parent nuts up and takes 221 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: a child or an aunt or an uncle. We're talking 222 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: about stranger abductions. It's up around the seventy five percentile 223 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: that the child is killed within the first three hours 224 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: after abduction, once they've been raped essentially. Then when you 225 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: get to the twenty four hour mark, it jumps up 226 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: to the eighties. Eighty plus percent of children and stranger 227 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: and stranger abductions are killed in the first twenty four hours. Francy, so, 228 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: I agree with Karen Stark. If he had found her 229 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: and he was out looking for her in his car, 230 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: that's how the cops found him so quickly she described 231 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: his car. He had found out she had gotten away 232 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: and was out hunting for her like an animal. Francy, Nancy, 233 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: this guy is so frightening, and I think the most 234 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: important thing for people to remember is that we don't 235 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: all the people in our society, and unfortunately there's too 236 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: many of them like this guy, who are predators don't 237 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: have some kind of apee for predator emblazoned across their forehead. 238 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: They look like everyone else. Child abusers look like everyone else. 239 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: We have to go beyond what they look like and 240 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: instead look to their behavior. I can't believe there weren't 241 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: some sort of signs ahead of time that he was 242 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: sexually interested children. In fact, I would stake my reputation 243 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:07,479 Speaker 1: that their police are going to find in his place 244 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 1: some kind of images of the sexual abuse of children, 245 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: indicating that that has been a sexual interest of his 246 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 1: for some time. And that's the motivation for why he 247 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: took Jamie class. And of course Kathleen Murphy Francie Haigs 248 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 1: is not off target because the primary motivation for stranger 249 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: on stranger abductions is sexual It's a shame. That is 250 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: such a shame. You know what I'm hoping for Nancy 251 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: at this very moment. I'm hoping that this child's face 252 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 1: is removed from social media, and I'm hoping this child's 253 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 1: face is forgotten by the public and that she can 254 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 1: merge into a quiet life, because what she's been through, 255 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 1: or what I think she's been through, is going to 256 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 1: be very difficult for her without her mom. I think 257 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: you're so right. I mean it's hard enough raising take 258 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 1: her off of social media raising a child in this 259 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: world of pressure and peer pressure, much less with what 260 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 1: she has going on in her head. Amount of trash 261 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 1: strung beside the garage, empty bottles of alcoholic drinks, I'm 262 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 1: smyrn off ice, Henry's hard soda, black cherry, white claw, 263 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 1: discarded bags of chips. This is what police are finding 264 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: where he allegedly held this child captive. Listen, Yeah, what 265 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 1: was the first thing she said to you? She just 266 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: said him lost and I don't know where I am 267 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: and I need help. She said who she loves. Yeah. 268 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: When she got near me and I could see who 269 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 1: she was, she told me I'm Jamie. Was she frantic? 270 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: What was her? Um? She was? She was scared. But 271 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 1: then when she you know, I stayed, so she stayed. Come. 272 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: You know, I didn't grab her and run off through 273 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: the woods, which would have been maybe an instinct, but no, 274 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 1: I just held on to her and I said, we're 275 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 1: going to find somebody who's home. We're gonna call the police. 276 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 1: You're gonna be okay, You're gonna be safe. Everything's gonna 277 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 1: be fine. You're gonna be fine. I just kept saying that. 278 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: Do you think she felt that from you? I hope 279 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: she felt it from me and from Peter and Kristen. 280 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: And you know they have a very warm, comforting home 281 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 1: and they have two kids and two dogs. And you know, 282 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: we wrapped her in a blanket, wrapped her blanket around her, 283 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: and the cops were great. Law enforcement was amazing. Hi, Nancy, Gracie. 284 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 1: Or have you ever googled yourself, your neighbors, somebody at work, 285 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: a crush. Fifty seven percent of Americans admit to keeping 286 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: an eye on their own online reputation. 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Those were the 301 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: first words Peter Kazinska's heard when he opened his front door. 302 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: In a phone call, he told us his neighbor was 303 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 1: walking her dog in this remote area of Gordon, Wisconsin, 304 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: Thursday afternoon. When Klaus appeared. The neighbor took the girl 305 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: to Kaznskas's home. Literally like I was seeing a ghost 306 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: because we've seen the billboards and the commercials and all 307 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: that stuff in there. She is in my kitchen. You 308 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: were hearing from rescuer Peter Kazniskas talking to CBS News 309 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: correspondent Adriana Diaz that he couldn't believe that she was 310 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: there in his kitchen and she looked like a ghost, 311 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: filthy hair, matted, she's too big for her. You know. 312 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: Here's the reality. There's been a lot of Internet trolling, 313 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,919 Speaker 1: a lot of hate talk about Jamie Klaus, believe it 314 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 1: or not, just so upsetting. I mean, you know, when 315 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 1: it's one of us guys, we're adults. We're putting ourselves 316 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: out there by being on crime Stories, by being on 317 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: serious by commenting this girl did not ask for this. 318 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: This young girl did not ask for this. She's only 319 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:06,479 Speaker 1: a year and a half older than my twins, and 320 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: she is being speculated about that she was part of 321 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:14,479 Speaker 1: her own parents murder. Why would she be filthy with 322 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: matted hair, skinny as if she hadn't eaten. She didn't 323 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: even have shoes to wear, didn't take her cell phone 324 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 1: with her, didn't take anything with her. The door was 325 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 1: kicked in, apparently, John Limley with Crime Stories crime online 326 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: dot Com investigative reporter, he went loaded for bear with 327 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: a shotgun and murdered her parents with a shotgun. You 328 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 1: don't think this guy would have gunned down these neighbors 329 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 1: if he had found her. He was out hunting her 330 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: like an animal when they were calling nine one one, 331 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: John Limley, what do we know? Absolutely? In fact, we've 332 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: learned just in the past few days. For months now, 333 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 1: we've been hearing about that door being kicked in, Well, 334 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: he used that shotgun actually to blow the door open, 335 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 1: and he was prepared, prepared to the point where he 336 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 1: didn't even leave behind any DNA evidence. There was a 337 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: lot of planning that went into this. But the big question, 338 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 1: unless we've just not been told by investigators yet, is 339 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: the why why? And as we mentioned previously, how did 340 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 1: he even know this family and specifically this thirteen year 341 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: old girl. To Kathleen Murphy, this guy in court today, 342 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 1: what do you think about the possibility that additional charges 343 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: will be added in the days to come. I obviously 344 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: believe that this child was taken against her will, and 345 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: so it follows that I believe charges of hurting her 346 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: personally will be added, sex of use of a child, 347 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: And I wish she could just disappear into oblivion in 348 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 1: these charges not be made public, and that people don't 349 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,199 Speaker 1: know what really happened to her, because that's something that 350 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: she had to live with. And thank god, thank god 351 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:03,360 Speaker 1: for Elizabeth mart and thank God for J. C. Duggard 352 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 1: and all the other young women who have survived this 353 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: and can be that club for her. And I know 354 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 1: in my heart that every one of those young women 355 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 1: now young mothers will reach out right this little girl. 356 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 1: I think they will to Joseph Scott Morgan, forensics expert. 357 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: We know the rescuers armed themselves because of the volatile 358 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: nature of this guy. He keeps being described as a 359 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: white male lon or quiet shy b s to all 360 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 1: of that. This guy, according to police, is a murderer, 361 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 1: and when he was out looking for her after the 362 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 1: neighbors had found her, I think he would have used 363 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,479 Speaker 1: any means necessary to get her, if that meant gunning 364 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:47,679 Speaker 1: down these this family, the Kacynskas, the woman that found her, 365 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: Jane Nutter, that meant nothing to him, just like her 366 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 1: parents meant nothing to him, and at some point he 367 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 1: probably would have killed her too. Joe Scott Morgan, Yeah, 368 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,239 Speaker 1: I think that you're probably right. He viewed her as 369 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:03,360 Speaker 1: an object, something to be thrown away and used. However, 370 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 1: I think that they're from an investigative standpoint. Nancy, there's 371 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: a bright spot in this and the fact that they're 372 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 1: saying that they found a shotgun in the residents where 373 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: in this cabin where he was holed up with Jamie. 374 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 1: Now this is key because this is going to have 375 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: a specific tie back. You guys mentioned earlier that he 376 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: had gone to great links to not leave any trace behind. 377 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: My suspicion is is the fact that this was probably 378 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,959 Speaker 1: a semi automatic shotgun. There were at least three blasts 379 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 1: that were fired. He tried to gain access to the 380 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 1: house with one and then he shot these two poor people. 381 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: So more than likely these shells, these ejected shells, were 382 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: left at the scene unless he went back and tried 383 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 1: to pick them up. Maybe they can be tied back 384 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: to the weapon that was found at the cabin. You know, 385 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: we're trying to find out more about this guy Patterson. 386 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: He has no criminal history, but we know, isn't it true? 387 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: John Linley Crime online dot Com investigative reporter. His brother 388 00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 1: had had a violent incident in the past. That is 389 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: the case, Nancy. Jake Patterson doesn't even seem to have 390 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: a parking ticket on his record. Now. It is important 391 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: to point out that investigators believe Jake Patterson acted alone 392 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,439 Speaker 1: in the abduction of Jamie and the murder of her parents. 393 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 1: There are no other suspects in the case, but the 394 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 1: suspect's brother. This is very interesting. Twenty four year old 395 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 1: Eric Patterson is a convicted sex offender and at one 396 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 1: time lived in the same home there in Gordon, Wisconsin, 397 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: where Jamie was held captive. According to court records, six 398 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: years ago, when Eric Patterson was eighteen, he drove from 399 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: Gordon to Buffalo City, that's about three hours away, to 400 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: meet a fifteen year old girl and have sex with her. 401 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: The girl told police Shemeric met Eric three weeks earlier 402 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: on an online chat site. Eric told police he thought 403 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 1: she was seventeen, and in Eric's car police found several maps, clothes, 404 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: and even a police scanner as well. He was charged 405 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 1: with criminal sexual assault in the second degree, but the 406 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:04,120 Speaker 1: charge was reduced to fourth degree. He played no contest. Well, 407 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: I'm thinking that through to you, Francy Haggs, former federal prosecutor. 408 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: His brother had found a young girl, a teen girl 409 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,640 Speaker 1: in a neighboring city, driven to that city to meet 410 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: up with her, and ended up with a felony charge 411 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: about what went down. So I'm just wondering, did that 412 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: seed stick in his head and then flower in blossom 413 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 1: into a plot to get Jamie Nancy. It certainly looks 414 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 1: like Patterson learned from the mistakes of his brother, specifically 415 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 1: how not to get caught. That his brother got caught, 416 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 1: he was determined not to by shaving his head so 417 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 1: he wouldn't leave his DNA, by blowing the door open 418 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: with a shotgun and taking Jamie by force, leaving no witnesses. 419 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: This was a planned, well thought out, executed desire to 420 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 1: get this child at all costs. And one of the 421 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: things it makes me wonder, Nancy, is while he doesn't 422 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: have any documented criminal history, this is an awfully bold 423 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:11,679 Speaker 1: executed plan for someone who has not done anything like 424 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 1: it before. It makes me wonder what we're going to 425 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: find in his past. Take a listen to this. Approximately 426 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: four o'clock, I was just getting home from work, just 427 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: kind of getting unpacked, and our neighbor came up to 428 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: our door with a big her big dog, and she 429 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: kind of flung the door open and said, call nine 430 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: one one, this is Jamie Closs. And right next to 431 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: her was a very I don't know, slender looking girls 432 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: who looked exactly like Jamie Closs in the photographs that 433 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: we've all seen. She just came in said she was Jamie. 434 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: We brought her in the house. She came and sat 435 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: down in our living room with us, and we called 436 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 1: angelond one immediately and waited for the police to arrive too. 437 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: Took maybe a half hour for the police to get here. 438 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't even really know how to 439 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: describe it other than this kind of like surprise and 440 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: panic at the same time. So we just called my 441 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: no one. We waited, We kind of just talked with her, 442 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: nothing too specific about what was happening. I asked her 443 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 1: where Gordon, wiscont if she knew where Gordon, Wisconsin. While 444 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: she did not, but she was pretty clear about that 445 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: she's been taken. Other than that, she didn't give us 446 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 1: a lot of details. We just waited to its police 447 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: to arrive. They came, they took her, and then that's 448 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: basically it. Jamie was reunited with her aunt at the 449 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: hospital this afternoon. She will also be reunited later this 450 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 1: evening with the rest of her family. She is doing 451 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: as well as circumstances allow. We have recovered a gun 452 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 1: consistent with what was used at the scene of the 453 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 1: initial homicide. However, we will have to wait for confirmation 454 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 1: that it was indeed the same weapon after examination by 455 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: the Wisconsin State Crime Lab. The gun used at the 456 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: scene on the night of the incident was a shotgun. 457 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: The shotgun was also used to open was yearsed to 458 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: shoot open the door at the Class home on the 459 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 1: night of the incident. The door of the Class home 460 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: was not kicked in. Investigators say this guy Patterson did 461 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: act alone, but there are so many questions swirling about 462 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: how he managed to keep Jamie Class prisoner for eighty 463 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 1: eight days. This is according to Sheriff Fitzgerald. We know 464 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,479 Speaker 1: he was unemployed, that he lived at a remote Gordon 465 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 1: home about eighty miles from Baron, that he did not 466 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 1: own it. We also know that documents that have been 467 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: obtained through a deed search shows that there was a 468 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: mortgage on the property held by a different person. We 469 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: know that the sheriff says that he concealed his identity, 470 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: even shaving his hair, apparently so he would not leave 471 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: any DNA behind on the scene. Right now, ballistics text 472 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 1: being performed on that shotgun. To Joseph Scott, Morgan, forensics 473 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: expert author of Blood Beneath My Feet on Amazon, Joe 474 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: Scott explain how a ballistics test will likely match up 475 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 1: the shotgun they recovered to the shotgun used to murder 476 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 1: both of Jamie's parents Nancy. For shotguns, it's a bit 477 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 1: different than say, for instance, like a regular pistol that 478 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: we might think of or a rifle that has rifling marks. 479 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: Shotguns what's referred to as a smooth bore weapon, So 480 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: what they'll be looking for on a shotgun or what 481 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: are referred to as extraction marks and what that means. 482 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 1: That soft brass base of the shells as it is 483 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: pulled out of the receiver, it leaves specific little markings 484 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 1: on that, and they'll try to match these back to 485 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: the shells found at the murder scene and match them 486 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 1: back to the weapon that is recovered at the cabin itself. 487 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 1: And also they'll be looking at ammunition. What type of 488 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 1: ammunition was utilized in the homicides and also what kind 489 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: of ammunition was he in possession of? Is it consistent 490 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: with both of these? Can you imagine in the middle 491 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: of the night, you've put your children to sleep, the 492 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: doors are a lot, the lights are off, and all 493 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you hear a blast. It's a shotgun 494 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 1: blowing out your door, so your daughter can be taken, 495 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 1: both parents killed. She's held for eighty eight days in 496 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: a cabin filled with old furniture, fans years old, TVs 497 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: and stereos, dirty plates piled up in the old kitchen, 498 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 1: A half finished game of Monopoly found in the main 499 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 1: living room. A book entitled US Armed Forces Survival Guide, Hammer, flashlights, scissors, 500 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: all piled up on a table. What happened to Jamie Class, 501 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: her parents now dead and buried? What happened in this 502 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 1: remote cabin? I'm looking at an aerial view of it 503 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 1: right now where this team girl, Jamie Class Middle School 504 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 1: was held allegedly by Jake Thomas Patterson, surrounded by trees 505 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: and trees and trees. Right now, police looking for receipts 506 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: where the suspect may have been during this time. What 507 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 1: will the defense be? Will it be that Jamie was 508 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 1: part of this scheme, that he thought he was saving 509 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 1: her from abusive parents? Where else can the defense go? 510 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: Of course, no evidence supports that what soever? To Karen 511 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 1: Starting York Psychologists, you heard Kathleen Murphy hoping that her 512 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: image will be taken off social media so she can 513 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 1: merge back in to society. What will she be going 514 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: through now? Karen? You know it's been a matter of 515 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 1: survival for her and then the bravery it took to 516 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 1: try and get away, risking her life knowing both her 517 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 1: parents were shot dead. What is she going through now, 518 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: Karen coming home to a home without her mom and 519 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: dad there, And that's where she's in a different situation 520 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 1: than Elizabeth Smart and do that. She's not going to 521 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 1: be the same as then. And they're already saying you 522 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 1: never go back to who you once were. But she's 523 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: going to be in shock fancy and she needs a 524 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 1: lot of help because she doesn't have parents to come 525 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,919 Speaker 1: home to, and she witnessed her parents being killed and 526 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 1: then went through the trauma of being kidnapped by this guy. 527 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 1: We can assume it's alleged, but you would assume that 528 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: she went through sexual trauma. One would hope that they 529 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 1: would take her off of social media just because somebody 530 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,439 Speaker 1: of that age shouldn't be Her picture shouldn't be out there, 531 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 1: and she shouldn't be recognized. She should have a chance 532 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 1: to try and build a more normal life again and 533 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 1: get a lot of help to get through this trauma. 534 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,839 Speaker 1: This guy, Patterson wanted her back for many reasons to 535 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: either hold her captive to molest or continue molesting her. 536 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 1: But because she was a prime witness, the only witness 537 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,919 Speaker 1: to the murder of her parents to Kathleen Murphy weigh 538 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 1: in on all the reasons he would have wanted her 539 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 1: about why he was out hunting her like an animal, 540 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 1: and why the neighbors were well advised to get a gun. 541 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: In their words, Nancy, I think he hit the nail 542 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 1: on the head because you referenced that his brother had 543 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 1: some behaviors with a minor child that he was arrested 544 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 1: for and he was charged with. This is a behavior 545 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,280 Speaker 1: that may be something that has learned in this family. 546 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 1: I don't know any history about his family. The only 547 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 1: thing I know is what you just told me. But 548 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: I think something that's not clicking with these brothers and 549 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 1: the problems that they have with their attraction to such 550 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:38,240 Speaker 1: young children. It's concerning. What about it too? John Limley, 551 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 1: Crime online dot Com investigative reporter, What can you tell 552 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 1: us about the family? We've been able to slowly piece 553 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,319 Speaker 1: together sort of a timeline of his family, going back 554 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 1: to two thousand and eight. That's when Jake Patterson's parents divorced, 555 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 1: according to online court records. A neighbor says that the 556 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,760 Speaker 1: parents moved away, but that Patterson and his older brother 557 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 1: continued to stay there in that remote cabin. She said 558 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 1: that she and her husband once caught the two guys 559 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:11,359 Speaker 1: siphoning gas. Another neighbor said that the brothers often got 560 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 1: into trouble. She said that they stole things and even 561 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 1: spent some time in foster care. So you're telling me 562 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,279 Speaker 1: he may have been in foster care because let's backdate this. 563 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,840 Speaker 1: If he is twenty one, now, when did his parents 564 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 1: get a divorce? Two thousand and eight, So they have 565 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 1: been divorced now for wow, eleven years and he's only 566 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,359 Speaker 1: twenty one, so that places him at ten years old. 567 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,759 Speaker 1: He was living in that cabin with his brother who 568 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,319 Speaker 1: was Did you tell me the brother was convicted for 569 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,799 Speaker 1: trekking down and molesting a teen girl. The brother was, yes, 570 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 1: sexual predator, his brother Eric. So you've got that Eric, 571 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 1: the brother, and he's living with the brother in this cabin. 572 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 1: That's his parental figure. Am I understanding this correctly? John Limley? 573 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,359 Speaker 1: According to neighbors, this is what is emerging is that 574 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 1: the parents may have moved away individually because at that 575 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 1: point they were divorced, and it's possible that the reason 576 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 1: this is possible that they may have ended up in 577 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 1: foster care because they were there living alone in this cabin. 578 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 1: Take a listen to our friend at NBC Ron Alan 579 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,719 Speaker 1: reporting from Baron, Wisconsin. The man accused of killing her 580 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,280 Speaker 1: parents and holding her against her will for nearly three months, 581 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 1: twenty one year old Jake Thomas Patterson is now behind bars. 582 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 1: Patterson's neighbors shocked. Just seems like your average gene you know, 583 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,919 Speaker 1: growing up. There was nothing different than him than any 584 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,319 Speaker 1: other child in the neighborhood. Authorities say three years ago 585 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 1: Patterson worked at the same turkey plant as Jamie's parents 586 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,799 Speaker 1: for one day, but authorities don't believe he had any 587 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 1: other contact with the family before the murders. Wouldn't have 588 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 1: the suspect on our radar. That's kind of unique in 589 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:48,360 Speaker 1: this case. I mean, I'm saying it that he randomly 590 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 1: picked her. Patterson is due in court later today, where 591 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 1: he'll be charged with kidnapping and murder. His lawyers calling 592 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,839 Speaker 1: it a tragic situation. We have a job to do 593 00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 1: in terms of representing our kind of protecting his right 594 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 1: to his interests, but we also understand the pain and 595 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 1: the emotion that has been generated within this community. We 596 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 1: wait as justice unfolds. Nancy Grace crime story signing off, 597 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 1: Goodbye friend,