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Speaker 1: He goes for a gun. I put my glock to

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Speaker 1: his head and pulled the trigger. But the gun's no good.

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Speaker 1: My gun's no good. I grab him and I knock

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Speaker 1: him to the ground. There's no feeling like it in

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Speaker 1: the world. No, you're doing good for good people, putting

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Speaker 1: bad guys away.

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Speaker 2: Meet Detective Louis Scarsella. It's the nineteen eighties and nineties

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Speaker 2: and New York City is a crazy world of murder,

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Speaker 2: twenty five hundred bodies one year. The city wanted a hero.

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Speaker 2: They called me the Hulk.

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Speaker 1: Yes, he was the guy who made sure the worst

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Speaker 1: killers were brought to justice. I am the protector of

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Speaker 1: these people. I am the guardian that they need.

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Speaker 3: That's one version.

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Speaker 4: This guy is a piece of shit, but he gets

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Speaker 4: to run around like he's god.

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Speaker 2: Derek Hamilton was put away for murder by Detective Scarcella.

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Speaker 1: It took me to the precist.

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Speaker 3: And lie in prison. Derek turned into a jailhouse lawyer,

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Speaker 3: the best of his generation, and.

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Speaker 4: Lord was my girlfriend. I had to love it because

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Speaker 4: it's my only way to freedom.

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Speaker 3: Derek and other convicted murderers banded together and started a

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Speaker 3: law firm behind bars.

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Speaker 4: This is how you had emotion.

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Speaker 2: This is how you respond to something. Then Derek and

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Speaker 2: two other members of the prison law firm stumble on

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Speaker 2: to something we never knew.

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Speaker 4: We had the same cop in the case Scarcella. We

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Speaker 4: got to show that he's a corrupt cop.

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Speaker 3: The law firm targeted Scarcella with the help of a

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Speaker 3: fearless reporter.

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Speaker 5: And then he says to me, girl, you're not going

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Speaker 5: to give up when things get too hot. And I said, look,

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Speaker 5: if I get killed doing this, that is not a

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Speaker 5: bad way to die.

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Speaker 1: They could go for themselves. I did nothing wrong.

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Speaker 2: I'm Dax Devlin Ross and I'm Steve Fishman. And this

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Speaker 2: is The Burden.

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Speaker 3: What happens when the best jailhouse lawyer of his generation.

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Speaker 2: Takes on the toughest detective of his Listen to new

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