Speaker 1: Well, well, well.
Speaker 2: We are okay crowing back crow stot quitten.
Speaker 1: Din't National Basketball Association while you're back, and we couldn't
Speaker 1: be more excited.
Speaker 2: They're so thirsty, I'm crazy. They need attention.
Speaker 1: It's good that Gatorade is a sponsor because the thirst
Speaker 1: is extreme over here and we can't wait to kick
Speaker 1: things off this season, especially with the state of the
Speaker 1: Phoenix Suns. We definitely have our eyes on that team.
Speaker 1: And talk more with the GM of p h n
Speaker 1: X Sports Saul Bookman on today's episode, I'm Miles Break
Speaker 1: and I'm O'Brien and this.
Speaker 2: Is my.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Spinny Corry a three punter, stop Curry from down,
Speaker 1: tell again, be honest, look.
Speaker 2: Out ship time. Oh.
Speaker 1: I held my breath for too long this summer and
Speaker 1: now we're back and I can't wait to see the
Speaker 1: season start. I've just been hallucinating NonStop the last couple weeks.
Speaker 1: I think Victor webban Yama is some kind of uh don't.
Speaker 2: Dream that what he did in the preseason was that
Speaker 2: a dream.
Speaker 1: I don't know a lot of people. A lot of
Speaker 1: people would have you thinking it's.
Speaker 2: Just all happening. It's an interesting wrinkle. According to one
Speaker 2: NBA commentator comment sator whose name I will not mention.
Speaker 2: It's an interesting wrinkle. The second coming is a Pawna Miles.
Speaker 2: It's all I'm freaking out. I'm freaking out. I'm letting
Speaker 2: myself get over hyped because I am not a professional
Speaker 2: basketball commentator and that is fun.
Speaker 1: But guess who is? We got one right here, Saul Bookman.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. How are you, Saul?
Speaker 3: What else?
Speaker 2: Fellas? How are we doing today?
Speaker 1: Doing great? We're doing great.
Speaker 3: I mean, we're you having me on the show despite
Speaker 3: the fact that I'm a Suns fan.
Speaker 2: No, of course, I'm a Suns fan myself as yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's true. Jack is a Suns fan now,
Speaker 1: and I appreciate you coming on the show despite me
Speaker 1: being not pethered to reality Lakers fan.
Speaker 3: I mean, how many Lakers fans are? Yeah, truly, we're
Speaker 3: still looking for the first one.
Speaker 2: These guys, I'll tell you.
Speaker 1: Tell you, these guys they think they got a load
Speaker 1: on the strings. But yeah, so, I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm guessing you are just as excited as anybody else
Speaker 1: for the season to start, especially with the Suns looking
Speaker 1: the way they do, or at least that roster looking
Speaker 1: the way it does.
Speaker 3: I mean, everybody in Phoenix is certainly everybody here at
Speaker 3: phn X, like, I mean, this is probably the most
Speaker 3: anticipated season starts with a seasons since Charles Barkley. I mean,
Speaker 3: it's gotta be that far back. I mean the seven
Speaker 3: seconds or Less Sons were fun, Chris Paul was fun.
Speaker 3: But we've never started off the season with this much
Speaker 3: star studded talent on one roster ever. And this is man,
Speaker 3: I can't wait to see it for real.
Speaker 1: Right because we were gonna ask like, how do you think?
Speaker 1: Like you I think you already said, were like, how
Speaker 1: does this compare to ninety three oh five or even
Speaker 1: seventy six? And you're saying, this is here, we are,
Speaker 1: this is the excitement right here.
Speaker 3: I think, so yeah, yeah, this is I mean listen,
Speaker 3: like I think in the middle of I think the
Speaker 3: closest thing you could say is probably seven seconds or
Speaker 3: less Sons. In terms of Hall of Fame talent, you
Speaker 3: can make an argument that Mariy Stademeier, Sean Marion, and
Speaker 3: Steve Nash obviously are all Hall of Fame worthy, whether
Speaker 3: they get in or not, you know whatever at that
Speaker 3: but at the time you didn't know which way that
Speaker 3: was gonna go or if they would have a chance
Speaker 3: to be that caliber right now. You know, Devin Booker,
Speaker 3: Kevin Durant, Bradley Beal all have Hall of Fame talent.
Speaker 3: They could all be there someday, you know, provided they
Speaker 3: stay healthy. And I mean, that's it's pretty remarkable. I
Speaker 3: also like, listen, I love Charles Barkley, but he's never
Speaker 3: won a championship. I love Steve Nash, he never won
Speaker 3: a championship. Kevin Durant has, He's won two of them.
Speaker 2: And let's just say, what what they know? That's not
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. I am they did about the n
Speaker 2: b AU media.
Speaker 1: I am.
Speaker 2: They did. They did win m v P S, So
Speaker 2: that's that's their credibility.
Speaker 1: That's something.
Speaker 3: But as a team, I'm I'm really excited for these
Speaker 3: three to see how they work together.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So again, expectations for for the new guys coming
Speaker 1: in are how we're what level are you at and
Speaker 1: what what is your expectation in terms of what the
Speaker 1: contribution is going to be and how that ends up
Speaker 1: when we get to you know, the business end of
Speaker 1: the season.
Speaker 2: You know, what's so funny is you.
Speaker 3: You were just talking about you know, Lakers fans and
Speaker 3: their rational you know, feelings about how good their team
Speaker 3: should be or old championships.
Speaker 1: Actually you're old them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you always old, right, And I think that's part
Speaker 3: of the Yeah, that's definitely been part of the the
Speaker 3: learning process out here, is that I'm sick and tired
Speaker 3: of always feeling like, you know, we just hope this
Speaker 3: is gonna happen. We just hope that things are going
Speaker 3: to go our way. Like we've actually started on our
Speaker 3: shows being like it's time to start expecting this to happen.
Speaker 2: Like we we are owed championships? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 3: Like, I don't think there's a franchise out there that's
Speaker 3: owed more championships than the Phoenix Suns. So my expectations
Speaker 3: are extraordinarily high. It's championship or bust.
Speaker 2: In my opinion.
Speaker 3: We've gotten to the finals multiple times, three times in
Speaker 3: the franchise's history. We've never gotten it done. We've come close.
Speaker 3: We should have done it in twenty one, but then
Speaker 3: we lost four straight. This is it, this is the year.
Speaker 3: I don't care about the Nuggets, I don't care about
Speaker 3: the Lakers. I don't care about the Bucks of the Celtics.
Speaker 3: We control our own destiny. These three are plenty good
Speaker 3: enough to get it done, so they need to make
Speaker 3: it happen.
Speaker 2: By the way, super producer Jabbari is his mic is
Speaker 2: muted so the listener can't hear him, but he is
Speaker 2: steepling his fingers and laughing and saying yes, yes, like
Speaker 2: the Emperor and the let it course between Darth Vader
Speaker 2: and to you exactly exactly.
Speaker 1: Other teams don't matter, no matter what they look like.
Speaker 1: It's all about us exactly. So welcome, welcome, But it's true.
Speaker 1: But I know, like, yeah, that meant I think that's important,
Speaker 1: and I think that's obviously exciting for a fan base
Speaker 1: when you do kind of turn that corner and it
Speaker 1: goes from like, well we might we might have something
Speaker 1: here to be like you, no, we have like we
Speaker 1: have something here, now let's see it through.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm excited, Aliston.
Speaker 3: The hardest part about this is always going to be
Speaker 3: kind of similar. It's kind of funny that Kevin Durant
Speaker 3: was kind of in this situation before, but in Golden State,
Speaker 3: where you had two premier shooters and then you had
Speaker 3: Draymond Green as well. Now you have the same thing,
Speaker 3: and Bradley Beal, who's an efficient score at every single level.
Speaker 3: Devin Booker is probably one of the most efficient scores
Speaker 3: of the mid range we've ever seen. Kevin Durant right
Speaker 3: there with him obviously, and Katie being able to play
Speaker 3: and off the ball, on the ball like he could
Speaker 3: do everything, and those literally literally you have three guys
Speaker 3: that can play at every single level. And then the
Speaker 3: evolution of Devin Booker, I feel like, is what's going
Speaker 3: to change this a little bit. I really I hope
Speaker 3: for his sake, and I really hope for Sun's fan's sake,
Speaker 3: that he starts to get the national love from the
Speaker 3: beginning of the season that he has deserved basically the
Speaker 3: last three in terms of how great a player he
Speaker 3: really is. And people sleep on him. They talk about, oh,
Speaker 3: he's not a top five or ten player. No, he
Speaker 3: absolutely is, Like you just haven't watched him a lot.
Speaker 3: And his growth and development, I think is what's finally
Speaker 3: going to get the attention this season. And I really
Speaker 3: do believe that they're gonna win their first championship this year.
Speaker 3: That's just how I feel.
Speaker 1: I like to hear it I'd like to hear that I.
Speaker 2: Love the optimism for the players. I root for KD.
Speaker 2: I am very I feel like this this season could
Speaker 2: be What was exciting to me about those NETS teams,
Speaker 2: Like you know, it's something that we've talked about since
Speaker 2: the first episode of this show, is that we love
Speaker 2: how much KD is a fan of the NBA and
Speaker 2: has a good eye for like players and like Booker
Speaker 2: was one of the first people. He was one of
Speaker 2: the first people to call out Booker, like his rookie year.
Speaker 2: He was like, he's actually gonna be incredibly good, and
Speaker 2: so like a team that's kind of put together in
Speaker 2: his image, like kind of he's taken another swing at
Speaker 2: the NETS thing. And I don't know, the NETS thing
Speaker 2: should have worked out better than it did, Like it
Speaker 2: was that that's it, like when they had it going,
Speaker 2: and I think I talked about this last week, but
Speaker 2: like I think we just all remember it badly going
Speaker 2: badly because of how it ended. But like at the
Speaker 2: peak when they actually played together for like five games,
Speaker 2: like that was an incredible experiment that was unbelievable to watch,
Speaker 2: And so I don't know, it's like better.
Speaker 3: I think I think the problem there was. I love KD.
Speaker 3: I think he's he's pretty level headed in my opinion,
Speaker 3: but I don't. I don't know if he's necessarily the
Speaker 3: stabilizing force in a locker room or an organization, if
Speaker 3: that makes sense. Yeah, and so then you're relying on
Speaker 3: Kyrie and James Harden.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, there's the problem. Like, and I don't.
Speaker 3: This is Devin Booker's team, Like Kevin Durant is these
Speaker 3: these superstar and one of the two biggest names in
Speaker 3: the game. But this is Devin Booker's team. Kevin Durant
Speaker 3: said it. Bradley Beal said it, like Devin Booker's been
Speaker 3: here in the valley. He's established himself in the valley.
Speaker 3: They came to his organization. He wants to be here
Speaker 3: for the duration of his career. Like, this is his
Speaker 3: team and he's the stabilizing force even with all the
Speaker 3: drama off the court, the DeAndre Aiden saga for the
Speaker 3: last five years, Like, Devin Booker has been that stabilizing
Speaker 3: force across the board. And I think Chris Paul helped
Speaker 3: teach him how to get there. But once he got there,
Speaker 3: which is basically year two of Chris Paul, he never
Speaker 3: let it go and that was it and now it's
Speaker 3: just Devin Booker's franchise.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how are you looking at? Oh? Just I mean,
Speaker 1: and like, one thing I think we've always kept talking about,
Speaker 1: especially when we talk about the Suns, are like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna score a lot of points defensively, Well, it
Speaker 1: does it even matter because the scoring is going to
Speaker 1: be so off the charts or you know, Jack, you
Speaker 1: were spending time with Vogues as you call him, Frank Vogel. Yeah,
Speaker 1: with Vogues and saying, you know, like Vogues knows how
Speaker 1: to get teams to defend though too, so it might
Speaker 1: not it's not that big of a deal. How are
Speaker 1: you looking at you know, that experience with the coaching
Speaker 1: staff and everything, and how that's going to factor into
Speaker 1: perceived you know, weaknesses of the team.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I actually don't think that it's gonna be much
Speaker 3: of a weakness by the end of the season at all.
Speaker 2: I like what they have defensively.
Speaker 3: Now you can look at Nurkitchen, You're probably gonna have
Speaker 3: some deficiencies on the perimeter, you know, in the pick
Speaker 3: a roll and matchups from time to time, for sure.
Speaker 3: And but Bogel will try to scheme them out of
Speaker 3: that as much as possible. You're not gonna be able
Speaker 3: to hide him completely. I mean, let's be honest. I mean,
Speaker 3: he's he's a little slow footed. So when you have
Speaker 3: those bigs like Anthony Davis who gave him fits the
Speaker 3: other night, and a preseason game like that's when it's
Speaker 3: really gonna you know that ugliness is going to come through.
Speaker 3: But at the same time, when you when you got
Speaker 3: a matchup against the guy like Joki, Jokich is still
Speaker 3: going to get his triple double. He's probably still gonna
Speaker 3: get thirty, twenty and ten, but he's gonna have to
Speaker 3: work a little hard for it, which I'm okay with.
Speaker 3: And you're hoping that that's going to pay dividends in
Speaker 3: other areas. And honestly, the length of this team is insane.
Speaker 3: I like their athleticism across the board. They added Grayson Allen,
Speaker 3: they add a KBD, they added a bunch of guys,
Speaker 3: And then the biggest thing for me is really when
Speaker 3: you're talking about guard play in the NBA playoffs, we
Speaker 3: have two guys that everybody in the league is sleeping on.
Speaker 3: They don't understand them and Joshua Kogie and Jordan Goodwin,
Speaker 3: who I really believe are going to be the biggest
Speaker 3: pains in the asses for any backcourt in the league.
Speaker 3: They get their hands on just about every pass, every ball,
Speaker 3: They die for loose balls. They're gritty, they're grimy, and
Speaker 3: I think they're gonna set the tone a lot of
Speaker 3: times on the defensive end. And then you talk about
Speaker 3: the length. We're not even going to bring up both
Speaker 3: b because I don't think he should play ever. But
Speaker 3: you know, it's just.
Speaker 2: My opinionally not even an NBA game. You just don't
Speaker 2: think you should play pick up Yeah, like ever, No,
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't have real interest in watching him play pick
Speaker 3: up basketball anywhere. Yeah, you know, like listen, he's just
Speaker 3: he's all right, he's all right, but he's not alright
Speaker 3: for the NBA. He's not alright for the Suns right
Speaker 3: now and what they're trying to get accomplished. So I
Speaker 3: just think the standards, they have a lot of flexibility
Speaker 3: across the board that I just don't think a lot
Speaker 3: of people are really giving a lot of respect to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we had the question, are these the highest expectations
Speaker 2: the heading into a sun season. Ever. Are these the
Speaker 2: highest expectations heading into any NBA season ever? That that's
Speaker 2: the question on my mind hearing you talk, you are.
Speaker 3: You are like, no, No, I don't think so. Like
Speaker 3: I want them to win the championship. If they get
Speaker 3: to the finals, then they lose, It's not going to
Speaker 3: be the end of the world. You look at teams
Speaker 3: like the Bulls, you know, or or even the Warriors
Speaker 3: when they first got KD, You're like, if they don't
Speaker 3: win a championship, that's an epic failure, right. I think
Speaker 3: that was the bar was set because they had already
Speaker 3: won a championship before KD showed up.
Speaker 2: Then you had KD to the piece like championship, right right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Anyways, wait, what would what would you consider a quote
Speaker 1: unquote failure?
Speaker 3: You get bounced in the second round by thirty points
Speaker 3: at home again, Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, MAVs Nuggets back
Speaker 3: to back years. You're losing, you know, big time on
Speaker 3: home and elimination games. That can't happen. That's just not
Speaker 3: going to happen. So that would be a big epic failure. Obviously, Listen,
Speaker 3: we we already know the injury history of these guys too.
Speaker 3: You know, it would be sad if if you know,
Speaker 3: one of them missed out a duration of the season
Speaker 3: or all of the season for injury. But I wouldn't
Speaker 3: even consider that an epic failure because you can't really
Speaker 3: control that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it would be an epic failure for
Speaker 2: the Philadelphia seventy six ers if they didn't get bounced
Speaker 2: in the second round. I think they have equilibrium that
Speaker 2: they're fans expect from them, and if they don't live
Speaker 2: up to it, we're going to be disappointed, confused, confusion.
Speaker 1: The conference finals is wrong with y'all?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think in the game, I don't think
Speaker 2: we have to worry about that. All right? Should we
Speaker 2: take a break, come back and talk about some milestones
Speaker 2: this season and just how we're feeling heading in It is?
Speaker 2: Uh where we are recording this on Christmas Eve of
Speaker 2: the NBA season. The first game hasn't been played yet,
Speaker 2: but uh, you know, y'all have seen a couple of days.
Speaker 2: But I'm I am giddy. Like the video of Wemby
Speaker 2: stretching got me excited, Like that's where I'm at. I'm like,
Speaker 2: look at that flexibility? What Yeah, get his shoulder.
Speaker 1: Look at the mobility.
Speaker 2: Look at the mobility.
Speaker 1: It's not about strength. It's all about mobility now, and
Speaker 1: he's got it.
Speaker 2: But yeah, let's take a quick break.
Speaker 4: We'll come back, and we're back.
Speaker 1: We are back. We are back in so many ways, man.
Speaker 2: Beyond our respective teams, What are you guys most looking
Speaker 2: for in the first couple of weeks here? I want
Speaker 2: to see Boston. You want to see Boston. I want
Speaker 2: to see Boston, Yeah, I want to I want to
Speaker 2: see Drew.
Speaker 3: I want to see uh, you know, Tatum and Brown
Speaker 3: and and and how they're gonna you know, mixing uh
Speaker 3: przingis Like, I'm interested to see what that's gonna look
Speaker 3: like because I love me some Holiday brothers. I don't
Speaker 3: care if it's Aaron, I don't care if it's Drew,
Speaker 3: I don't care if it's Justin.
Speaker 2: I love them all. I think they're all ballers. Man.
Speaker 2: So I want to see Boston.
Speaker 1: I'm interested in Boston, but not for the same reason.
Speaker 1: It's more like you got to keep an eye on
Speaker 1: that neighbor. Just be like, oh know what they're doing now?
Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, Well I saw him practicing with his
Speaker 1: left didn't look that great. So I'm still feeling okay,
Speaker 1: but they've added some pieces that definitely has me snooping
Speaker 1: and being like, what are they working? Because I I
Speaker 1: feel I see the potential for something to just go
Speaker 1: off over there. But yeah, I think I'm I have
Speaker 1: a more fear based interest. If I'm mean transparent, you.
Speaker 3: Stay off, do you mean like off, like off kilter
Speaker 3: or like off like they're like.
Speaker 1: Like they're gonna is about to go if they're gonna
Speaker 1: set it set it off like the fantastic crime heist
Speaker 1: film starring Queen Latifah. Like in that sense, they will
Speaker 1: set it off for Verbian speaking, I.
Speaker 2: Feel the off kilter part for the Bucks, Okay, I am.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: There's something about I love Dame, I love Giannis, I
Speaker 3: love Middleton, but there is something about that team that
Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't know if this is gonna work.
Speaker 3: I it sounds stupid, I know, but I just I
Speaker 3: don't know. I'm just something aboutically, I don't think that
Speaker 3: Dame is going to be the Dame that we all
Speaker 3: know with those other two star players as prevalent as
Speaker 3: they are, like especially Giannis, like Dame has never played
Speaker 3: with a guy like that ever, right, No, I mean,
Speaker 3: not a lot of players have. But like Giannis commands
Speaker 3: the ball, he's a demanding player. Middleton needs his touches too,
Speaker 3: like and so Dame is gonna have to figure that
Speaker 3: part out. The closest he's ever come is, you know,
Speaker 3: having CJ. McCollum as his number two, Like, that's not
Speaker 3: the same as what he's getting into. So I do
Speaker 3: wonder about that flexibility, him being able to play off
Speaker 3: the ball as well, a little bit more than he's
Speaker 3: probably accustomed to. I think there's just gonna be a
Speaker 3: nice little mix there that they're gonna have to learn
Speaker 3: now by the end of the season. I could probably
Speaker 3: be wrong, and they could be one of the best
Speaker 3: teams in the East. I expect him to still be
Speaker 3: one of the best teams in the East. I just
Speaker 3: don't think it's gonna be as easy as people are
Speaker 3: making it out to be.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, yeah, I don't think it's gonna be easy.
Speaker 2: I'm definitely intrigued. I'm checking for them. I'm not checking
Speaker 2: for Boston because I think they're just going to be
Speaker 2: very good, and it bums me out. I love Holiday
Speaker 2: and man, don't don't love seeing him in the Celtic green.
Speaker 2: But okay, see I'm checking for Wemby. I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 2: gonna be watching his games. I'm checking for Okay, See,
Speaker 2: I love Okac. They're they're gonna be fun. That's gonna
Speaker 2: be is definitely my NBA side piece for sure. Love.
Speaker 2: I can't wait to watch them play.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's a man between. Okay, so I'm
Speaker 1: thinking Celtic is the other one I've actually I've been
Speaker 1: also excited about the Bucks, but I'm definitely looking at
Speaker 1: it like n B A two K Well, I'm like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: put put Dame on there. Okay, Yeah, I'm gonna pick
Speaker 1: this team every time. But you bring up a good
Speaker 1: point of like what it's gonna look like in action. Also,
Speaker 1: part of me just I just want to see how
Speaker 1: Portland gets along, you know, like what this next step
Speaker 1: is gonna look like a lot of their fans will
Speaker 1: like get ready for some grotesque stuff. But part of
Speaker 1: me like wants to believe in like be impossible and
Speaker 1: be like, hey, maybe you'll do a little bit better
Speaker 1: than you know, bracing yourself for rble impact. But I
Speaker 1: just you know, I'm either way, I'm gonna either be
Speaker 1: being like.
Speaker 3: Or like, Okay, I'm interested to hear what you think
Speaker 3: about da oh man.
Speaker 1: I mean that, just just off the tattoo alone, I
Speaker 1: don't know how I feel. I gotta say I don't
Speaker 1: when people have those kinds of like self referential tattoos,
Speaker 1: that always gives me a bit of a bit of pause.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I get that you've boughten. I love that
Speaker 1: you believe in yourself, but that's just only one dimension
Speaker 1: of it all. But yeah, yeah, we will see yeah,
Speaker 1: especially in guess.
Speaker 3: You know back in the day, Saturday Night Live used
Speaker 3: to have those skits with I think it's Stuart Smiley
Speaker 3: or whatever where and he had Michael Jordan on the
Speaker 3: show and he was looking into Marry. He's like, I
Speaker 3: want you to repeat after me. I'm good enough, I'm
Speaker 3: smart enough and doggone at people like me. And I
Speaker 3: feel like that that's DeAndre Aiden, Like, I feel like
Speaker 3: he's constantly having to tell himself that because he doesn't
Speaker 3: have a lot of believers.
Speaker 2: In his game.
Speaker 3: Now yeah, and now he's trying to convince himself that
Speaker 3: he is that superstar and he's trying to play like it.
Speaker 3: But it just hasn't come. He has shown up on
Speaker 3: the floor as much as he'd like.
Speaker 1: You know, I think he needs to embrace, like, you
Speaker 1: know what he said about the environment. I think, like
Speaker 1: I could that resonated a bit with me, and it's
Speaker 1: like I just okay, I feel like I'm in a
Speaker 1: place that that feels good that I've wanted. I think
Speaker 1: he needs to just like reset with that energy first
Speaker 1: before he can really have any expectations of himself here,
Speaker 1: Like try and shed any baggage you may have had
Speaker 1: and just try and start overclean rather than like immediately
Speaker 1: coming in. I'm like, it's dominating time.
Speaker 2: Let's go like.
Speaker 1: Okay, no, no, no, we get it, but give give yourself
Speaker 1: a moment.
Speaker 3: I think the minute he realizes he's number two, I
Speaker 3: think the better he'll be. But I think he forever
Speaker 3: thinks that he should be a primary option no matter what,
Speaker 3: and that's just never going to happen in the NBA.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: With his skill set, he listened, the guy struggles when
Speaker 3: it comes to dribbling the ball in the first place.
Speaker 3: He can shoot the mid range as good as any
Speaker 3: big man. He's got a nice touch around the rim,
Speaker 3: shoots a high percentage. But the problem is is getting
Speaker 3: him set up for those opportunities. Is it's been a
Speaker 3: little cumbersome for a lot for a large period of time,
Speaker 3: especially with the Suns, and you surround him with superstars
Speaker 3: and he thinks he's equal to those said superstars, and
Speaker 3: it just isn't the case if he just came with
Speaker 3: like that, you know, Al Horford mentality, where he's just
Speaker 3: gonna do the dirty work. He's gonna hit the open
Speaker 3: bucket when you need it, he's gonna play, he's gonna
Speaker 3: be a you know, the smartest player out there, and
Speaker 3: he can last another twenty years in this league. But
Speaker 3: I just don't know if in his head he's ever
Speaker 3: going to get there.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I'm rather than dominating, I'm DomU waiting to
Speaker 1: see what happens.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that's that's a trademark too. We're gonna brand that.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 2: It is a little hurtful for you to to hear
Speaker 2: you talk that way about his tattoo, because I did
Speaker 2: show Miles that I have the jackknife in that exact
Speaker 2: same fun.
Speaker 1: Crowsy it's weird and I didn't and I'm like, how
Speaker 1: come it looks like a big wheeler, like an eighteen wheeler,
Speaker 1: got in a car accident, and you're jack knife. It's
Speaker 1: a jackknife, man, a big rig jackknife. And I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I didn't know that's what it was. And then you
Speaker 1: ran out with tears in your eyes and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: are we recording today?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Also, the tattoo hurts really bad. So we've got
Speaker 2: some potential NBA milestones this season. Uh Lebron h closing
Speaker 2: on on forty thousand career points. KD needs five hundred
Speaker 2: and eighteen points to pass a keem Elvin Hayes Moses
Speaker 2: Malone to move in tenth all time in scoring, which yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean he feels like one of the best scorers
Speaker 2: to ever play the game, so that that feels appropriate. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And Russell Westbrook two triple doubles away from being the
Speaker 2: only player with two hundred career triple doubles. Wow, he's
Speaker 2: already the leader. Yeah, just two away.
Speaker 1: I was like, how many does magic on one thirty eight? Oh? Wow? Okay,
Speaker 1: so he's gone. And Oscar Robinson has or had one
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty one.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's uh, that's that's what you know. He's he's
Speaker 1: also feeling good about himself, so we'll see, you know.
Speaker 1: He's definitely the Clippers version is better than the Lakers
Speaker 1: version from what I've seen.
Speaker 2: So much better. Yeah, so much better. I don't know
Speaker 2: if there's ever been a superstar like him before. That's
Speaker 2: somebody that, Yeah, it's very strange.
Speaker 3: He gets he he he wins an MVP, but also
Speaker 3: like the amount of disrespect for a guy of his caliber,
Speaker 3: like I just I don't know if it's just uh,
Speaker 3: you know, sometimes people just look at somebody and they
Speaker 3: just immediately decide that they don't like him. That's what
Speaker 3: I That's what I feel like with Russell Westbrook. A
Speaker 3: lot of people just they just look at him and
Speaker 3: they're like, he just looks mean, so I don't like him,
Speaker 3: and they just buried him because of it, and it's
Speaker 3: just been really unfortunate. I think Russell Westbrook's an amazing
Speaker 3: basketball player. He's obviously triple doubles. Tell you that the
Speaker 3: only guy to average or one of the one of
Speaker 3: the few guys that ever averaged a triple double. I
Speaker 3: don't understand why he doesn't get as much is all
Speaker 3: the other guys. And to be honest, like the Lebron
Speaker 3: storing stuff like I don't care about that anymore. He's
Speaker 3: already broken the record. He's gonna set that bar so
Speaker 3: high that I don't know if any other player will
Speaker 3: ever be able to match it again. And so I'm
Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to the KD stuff because yeah, he's
Speaker 3: here and that's what I'm gonna be watching.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, with Russ it is like one of
Speaker 1: those I think part of it is again coming to
Speaker 1: one of the most grounded fan base of all time.
Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, yeah those expect I mean, because man
Speaker 1: that there was some just some indefensible stuff coming out
Speaker 1: of some of the fans, uh during that Laker era.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, Like I said,
Speaker 1: it's indefensible, like to the point where you're like, that's
Speaker 1: not even how you shouldn't treat anybody like this, like
Speaker 1: we're talking about basketball, Like, let's let's take a second
Speaker 1: for a moment.
Speaker 3: Sam.
Speaker 1: You know, bruin love too, So I always got love
Speaker 1: for us.
Speaker 3: Here here in Phoenix when they were playing the Stuns,
Speaker 3: he was behind the scene, he was coming out of
Speaker 3: the locker room and he got into it with a
Speaker 3: fan and that fan was allegedly the same guy that
Speaker 3: during the NBA Finals was counting the dollars.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, allegedly it's the same guy. And it was so
Speaker 3: funny to see everybody in Phoenix kind of come to
Speaker 3: Russell's defense, like, dude, sit down, guy, Like right, Russell Westbrook,
Speaker 3: because he came out like early in the early part
Speaker 3: of that second half and was like balling, and We're
Speaker 3: like greats awesome. Yeah, they just set off Russell, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean. So I've always loved rus Westbrook's game. Man,
Speaker 3: I really wish that he would get the respect that
Speaker 3: he deserves because he's definitely one of the best players
Speaker 3: in the NBA all the time, to be honest.
Speaker 1: And he's and like behind the scenes, everyone consistently says
Speaker 1: how like he's a really sweet kind guy too, Like
Speaker 1: I've only heard good things. Like a friend of mine
Speaker 1: works for the Lakers, and I was always asking, like,
Speaker 1: what's up, well, Russ. He's like, man, I'll tell you this.
Speaker 1: He's the nicest guy. He's like one of the nicest dudes.
Speaker 1: He's like, so I'm always rooting for him, and I'm like, wow, okay,
Speaker 1: well that that changes things a bit.
Speaker 2: But yeah, all right, but let's talk first NBA Orsu,
Speaker 2: Tyler Herro This was the thing that was going around
Speaker 2: right people were talking about Yeah, yeah, yeah, first first
Speaker 2: jersey they evergot. Yeah, mine was Kareem Abdul Jabbar. Wow.
Speaker 2: It was like because I did a school project as
Speaker 2: a I think second grader, third grader did wrote an
Speaker 2: autobiography of Kareem and wars jersey, which one Lakers.
Speaker 1: Sure if you had like a throwback or something, Yeah,
Speaker 1: this cinder Bruin's throwback.
Speaker 2: Completely shaved my head.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: They're like, oh it is Jack sick. They're like, he's
Speaker 1: Kareem just method with it. Yeah. Well so Tyler Heroes
Speaker 1: was Ai Jamal Murray's was Vince LaMelo, Al Horford. They
Speaker 1: all had their picks. But yeah, okay, so yours was
Speaker 1: that's the first one that you got. What was the
Speaker 1: first one you bought with your money? Jack? When was
Speaker 1: the first jersey he said, here's my money, I'm buying
Speaker 1: I'm buying this.
Speaker 2: Jersey, Now take my money please. Probably that's a good question.
Speaker 2: Probably either Paul Pierce or Antoine Walker like that era
Speaker 2: of Okay, Numero Ocho didn't wear employ number eight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, expright, exactly. Okay, mine was the first one was
Speaker 1: obviously a Laker jersey was surgically attached to me at birth,
Speaker 1: so I don't consider that my first. The first one
Speaker 1: I ever bought, and I told you this off Mike,
Speaker 1: the first jersey I ever bought with my own money.
Speaker 1: This is coming, I know, but I have to remind
Speaker 1: people that it was the year two thousand and two
Speaker 1: or three, and the style back then was to wear
Speaker 1: a very baggy basketball jersey with a big white tea
Speaker 1: and a fitted hat and had to match the team.
Speaker 1: So I was, I remember, I was. I was beholden
Speaker 1: to what they had a chance that day, and I
Speaker 1: bought a Michael Finley Dallas Mavericks.
Speaker 2: Wow wow. Because it was blue.
Speaker 1: I was like, I can't wear red. I like blue,
Speaker 1: and that was the only thing that fell in and
Speaker 1: I was like, and I've My mom still asked why
Speaker 1: I have it. She's like, I thought you always liked
Speaker 1: Laker once and I'm like, yeah, I clicked, mom, it
Speaker 1: was a different time. Wow hoo boo dooo rag Underneath
Speaker 1: it was whole thing. What about you, Saul?
Speaker 3: I actually, man, so I've never bought an NBA jersey ever,
Speaker 3: I know, kind of crazy.
Speaker 2: I do have NBA.
Speaker 3: Jerseys, and the first one I was ever given was
Speaker 3: Kevin johnson Son's jersey the Old Western font in eighty
Speaker 3: eight eighty nine.
Speaker 2: The first two jersey I did.
Speaker 3: Now, I have bought basketball jerseys before, and the first
Speaker 3: basketball jersey I ever bought. This is going to take
Speaker 3: you way back if you can even remember this. This
Speaker 3: guy Joey Browner Joey Brown from Georgetown way back in
Speaker 3: the day we played with I think he played with
Speaker 3: Alonso Morning back in those Georgetown teams.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't know why he was my favorite player, he
Speaker 3: just was. And I saw his jersey in the store
Speaker 3: and I bought it, So I did.
Speaker 2: That was that?
Speaker 3: And then I'm like Bibie jersey, oh when he was
Speaker 3: at the University of Arizona, because that's my that's my school.
Speaker 3: So uh yeah, I never bought an NBA jersey.
Speaker 1: What about Mike Bibby, Now, would you work out with him?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 3: He would put me to shame, But yeah, I would
Speaker 3: totally work out with Mike Bibby.
Speaker 2: When I when I.
Speaker 1: See pictures of him, I feel like I don't even
Speaker 1: know if I can move my limbs don't wa Yeah,
Speaker 1: because he's he looks like a funny work now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, he's massive. And it's funny because I played
Speaker 3: against him in high school and like he wasn't big,
Speaker 3: obviously he was. He was cut though he was cut
Speaker 3: back then, but he was like strunning cut and so
Speaker 3: you can kind of move him around a little bit.
Speaker 2: But now like there's not a chance. Yeah, he's top heavy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder was was Henry Bibby just ripped like
Speaker 1: that underneath his clothes?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he was ripped too. I don't know about
Speaker 3: underneath his clothes, but I do know he was ripped.
Speaker 2: Okay. I could see it in his arms, in his chest,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: I mean allowed to see them both shirtless. They're both
Speaker 1: just as defined. You're like, oh he my seventy three
Speaker 1: year old dad, Henry Mike.
Speaker 2: Mike exists for a reason. Yeah, right, exactly. I had
Speaker 2: a weird like I was obsessed with Bill Cartwright in
Speaker 2: the eighties for like, even though he was I think
Speaker 2: it was when when I found out about him. He
Speaker 2: was the backup center to Patrick Ewing, and I was like, man,
Speaker 2: love the way that guy's shot looks like if I
Speaker 2: tried to make up how to shoot a basketball. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I did weird obsession with Xavier McDaniel. Yeah, okay, I
Speaker 2: don't know why.
Speaker 3: I just loved x I liked his bald head. Then
Speaker 3: he got the Suns for a short a little bit
Speaker 3: of time, and then he went to the Knicks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my weirder ones too, I would say. Man, I
Speaker 1: was really into Mack mood abdul Rahof. I think because
Speaker 1: at the time I was like, why are they why
Speaker 1: are they messing with this guy? And I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: kind of liked. I like, I think I liked this
Speaker 1: young man. And then another uh uh Wayman Tisdale because
Speaker 1: when I found out he could play bass, it blew
Speaker 1: my mind that. I was like, hold on, you played,
Speaker 1: you're you're you're crushing the base too, And I was like,
Speaker 1: this is so interesting to me. And that was like
Speaker 1: one of the first times I realized you can be
Speaker 1: good at more than one thing as a child. But
Speaker 1: I will always think about I was like, man, Wayman Tisdale, Man.
Speaker 3: Wow, it's just a nice litt lefty jump or two.
Speaker 3: It was so nice. Yeah, peace, Now.
Speaker 2: Should we take one more break and come back and
Speaker 2: do the fastest segment in all of podcasting.
Speaker 1: I think it's time.
Speaker 2: It is time. We'll be right back, and we're back,
Speaker 2: We're back. During the break, we were talking about a
Speaker 2: little college basketball, some college basketball reminiscences of when your
Speaker 2: Arizona Wildcats surgically removed my heart as a I think
Speaker 2: it was a sixteen the Cats. Yeah, yeah, while when
Speaker 2: they defeated the Kentucky Wildcats in the finals. My dad
Speaker 2: was an assistant for the Kentucky at that time, and
Speaker 2: uh yeah, man, that was well, what a what a win.
Speaker 2: I got to go to the Sun's training camp and
Speaker 2: meet Miles Simon for the first time, see him in
Speaker 2: person for the first time since he was removing my
Speaker 2: heart with a dull instrument, and I smiled, but man,
Speaker 2: on the inside, I was like, right, okay, okay, But.
Speaker 1: We were talking about we were talking about how like
Speaker 1: I was like, I was trying to remember that final
Speaker 1: four and I thought Providence was in the final four,
Speaker 1: but Sauw corrected me that that was on the way
Speaker 1: to the final four. It was a grade eight. And
Speaker 1: I was like, why did prop like, how did Providence
Speaker 1: go that deep? And it was god.
Speaker 2: Sham, goddam. We saw this week holding down the role
Speaker 2: for the He is an assistant for the Dallas Mavericks. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and he was holding down the role of Victor Wembinyama
Speaker 2: holding up two like giant broomsticks, huge foam hands on them.
Speaker 2: Good thing, everybody.
Speaker 3: I thought, you guys are gonna give me like some
Speaker 3: juicy up date, like he's something he's like he's involved
Speaker 3: in some.
Speaker 2: Like scheme or something like that. Noicks, he's involved in
Speaker 2: a scheme of uh, you know, pretending to be in
Speaker 2: somebody with an eight foot wingspan when he's not. Actually,
Speaker 2: but do.
Speaker 1: You think Wemby will hit the sham God?
Speaker 2: I mean kind of.
Speaker 1: I think the ball would move way too much, but
Speaker 1: I would love to. I mean, we've already seen him
Speaker 1: do his little in and outs and stuff.
Speaker 2: But when he does the in and outs, the thing
Speaker 2: I'm think of is like, have you ever heard the
Speaker 2: like that that those big windmills, when they're moving like
Speaker 2: and a bird flies into them, they just get vaporized
Speaker 2: because even though it looks like they're moving slow at
Speaker 2: the very tip, they're moving like four hundred miles per
Speaker 2: hour because the wingspan is so wide on those things
Speaker 2: that it's it's flying out there, and that's his like
Speaker 2: dribble moves remind me of is like man like he's
Speaker 2: crossing from one baseline to the other baseline when he
Speaker 2: crosses somebody up.
Speaker 3: True, he reminds me of those uh those blow in
Speaker 3: the air things.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like for like a youth with the in
Speaker 2: and out. It just looks like he's just you're blowing
Speaker 2: through it.
Speaker 1: Right, But he got right right by me, aren't you.
Speaker 2: All Right?
Speaker 1: Well, I think it's time now enough reminiscing and it's
Speaker 1: time to get into the real, the real heart stuff.
Speaker 1: So it's time for the fourth quarter rapid fire round
Speaker 1: of questioning. This is the fastest question answered segment in
Speaker 1: all of podcasting history and all sports podcasting hip history,
Speaker 1: I guess to be specific, not. I don't want to
Speaker 1: take I don't want to speak for the whole genre.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there's still some you know, historians are debating
Speaker 2: whether we're the fastest segment and podcast history. Right, So
Speaker 2: these are all yes or no answers.
Speaker 1: No, no, But here's this is where it gets tricky.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna ask you a question. You answer as
Speaker 1: quickly as you can, okay, because you have to get
Speaker 1: like the whole Like, our record depends on the guests
Speaker 1: getting these answers out quick and also keeping us on
Speaker 1: task because sometimes Jack and I are very unprofessional. We
Speaker 1: like to start, you know, expanding on some topics and stuff.
Speaker 1: You got to keep us focused because I'm sure in
Speaker 1: your role, you know, as a GM of p H
Speaker 1: n X, you can probably help us, you know.
Speaker 3: Get Yeah, whatever the record is, let's let's let's break it.
Speaker 2: I'm ready. I like that.
Speaker 1: I like this. See this is this is you know
Speaker 1: what the phoenix if this is how the fans are thinking,
Speaker 1: something are going somewhere. I like this. Okay, ready, let's.
Speaker 2: Go to it. Ryan, start the clock.
Speaker 1: All right, this is who This is gonna be a
Speaker 1: fast one. Jack, you want to go first? Or should
Speaker 1: I go first?
Speaker 2: I don't know. Why don't you kick us off my house?
Speaker 1: You sure?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, I.
Speaker 1: Guess I can. All right, then the clock starting. Now
Speaker 1: here we go, Saul, give us your three best scorching
Speaker 1: hot taps for the upcoming NBA season.
Speaker 2: Three of them, three of them? Okay.
Speaker 3: Number one, the Dallas Mavericks will not They will be
Speaker 3: in a play in if they make the playoffs at all.
Speaker 2: That's number one.
Speaker 3: Number two, the Stuns will beat the Denver Nuggets to
Speaker 3: get to the to the finals. And not only will
Speaker 3: they beat the Nuggets, but they will hold Jamal Murray's
Speaker 3: under twenty points a game. And then my third one is, oh,
Speaker 3: the Sacramento Kings might not even make the playoffs.
Speaker 2: Wow?
Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, now what is it?
Speaker 2: Why?
Speaker 1: Why the lack of belief in the Kings?
Speaker 3: I just am not a believer. I didn't feel like
Speaker 3: they really added enough in the off season compared to
Speaker 3: the rest of the powers in the West. I think
Speaker 3: everybody else got significantly better as opposed to the Kings.
Speaker 3: And yeah, and I don't think so. Bonus is a
Speaker 3: is a bona fide big, big enough to create havoc
Speaker 3: in the order that they're going to need to be
Speaker 3: effective down the stretch of these games, right right, He's not,
Speaker 3: He's not subonified.
Speaker 2: Okay, cool, and just one day, make sure that I
Speaker 2: had you on the reecond now, bonus, Okay, Up next,
Speaker 2: you can take two players from all of history to
Speaker 2: create your Matt Boosti's edition NBA JAM team. Which two
Speaker 2: players you taking Michael Michael, Jordan Kreman Jabar. Great answer.
Speaker 1: Okay, now what is it about. I'm familiar with kreamat Jabbar?
Speaker 1: Who was the first name?
Speaker 2: What's the first guy's name? Oh? You know the greatest
Speaker 2: of all time? Oh?
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 2: There's like a Twitter thread that went viral of like,
Speaker 2: all right, who are you sitting on the bench out
Speaker 2: of these six And a lot of people were answering.
Speaker 2: It was like, you know, the six best players of
Speaker 2: all time and a lot of people were like, oh,
Speaker 2: I'd sit Jordans and like play Kobe in the two
Speaker 2: in the two spot. I just think a lot of
Speaker 2: people forget Kobe wouldn't have done that. No, Kobe would
Speaker 2: have for sure.
Speaker 1: So I'm sorry, we have to keep this segment moving,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I know, yeah, it's up to you. I'm
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm in your lead, I.
Speaker 1: Know, but hey, I need you to yell at us man,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because this is gone, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? I need to run. Thanks, Okay,
Speaker 1: next up, Next up? Saw who is the best player
Speaker 1: that you've ever witnessed in person? And what did they do?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: What were they doing? You're like, Oh, I can't believe
Speaker 1: I'm seeing this with my bare naked eye.
Speaker 2: Damn, that is good one. Uh. Yannis.
Speaker 3: I was there in the building when he caught the
Speaker 3: alley up after they ripped Devin Booker at the end
Speaker 3: of game five, and that was the most amazing player
Speaker 3: I've ever seen in person, from thinking we were going
Speaker 3: to win that game to utter despair. Uh and the
Speaker 3: just the Greek freak coming up big in that moment.
Speaker 3: That was just amazing. That would you say?
Speaker 1: Yannis is also again this is kind of a follow up,
Speaker 1: but who's a player that you feel like you kind
Speaker 1: of have to see in person to fully appreciate a million?
Speaker 2: A million? Honest he is.
Speaker 3: He's just unbelievable and then his measurables take him to
Speaker 3: a whole other level, like and and he's honestly like
Speaker 3: he's just a phenomenal dude too, Like he's one of
Speaker 3: the nicest guys you could ever meet.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that would be why. All right, next question,
Speaker 2: let's go. I don't know if you heard me say
Speaker 2: you honestly, it was another word play. Honestly. Bona Fides
Speaker 2: and Honesty is.
Speaker 1: A new podcast with his brother.
Speaker 2: You could have any player's skill set for a day,
Speaker 2: whose skill set are you choosing? And which of their
Speaker 2: skill sets? Like, I don't want to I don't want
Speaker 2: to have you on records, say I'm like Steph and
Speaker 2: then it's actually like Steph's rapping skills or you know.
Speaker 3: Uh, if I could have anybody's skill set to me,
Speaker 3: I would take in does it have to be current
Speaker 3: player or former? No, you can go you can go
Speaker 3: deep into his Dennis Dennis Robins rebounding ability. Wow, this way,
Speaker 3: that way, this way, that way, whatever doesn't matter, Like
Speaker 3: that would be phenomenal. Now if we're talking about on
Speaker 3: or off the court. I mean, I'll be honest, I
Speaker 3: love to have Magic Johnson's charisma because I'm not a
Speaker 3: people person very much. I don't like to talk to
Speaker 3: people too much. Uh, and Magic Johnson just seems like
Speaker 3: he would talk to anybody.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, And I was going to say his tweeting ability,
Speaker 2: tweeter power. Yeah, you know, I don't want that. I
Speaker 2: don't want ro rob rebounding is uh is really incredible.
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, his ability to just like and
Speaker 2: I guess it was not it was hard one. As
Speaker 2: we learned in the last dance right that like he
Speaker 2: studied with the direction that the ball came off when
Speaker 2: when certain people missed. But yeah, it is like a
Speaker 2: skill that I wasn't even really aware of, Like when
Speaker 2: I was playing basketball, I wasn't like, oh, I can
Speaker 2: always predict twitch direction. This person miss tore.
Speaker 3: Now I kind of feel like you're you're delaying us
Speaker 3: by getting to the next topic. So I'm not so
Speaker 3: sure if I'm supposed to step in you're purposely trying
Speaker 3: to slow this down.
Speaker 1: No, no, no no, But I do want to add
Speaker 1: I feel rebounding is one of those underrated skill sets
Speaker 1: as a kid. You don't really appreciate it at the time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: kids are.
Speaker 2: Funny, aren't they.
Speaker 1: So you gotta keep us, you gotta keep us moving.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. Next question, next question, next question. You
Speaker 1: can go back in time. You're gonna hop in the Dolorean.
Speaker 1: You know you're gonna put the banana peel in the
Speaker 1: misterfusion and get this thing to whatever many jiggawats you
Speaker 1: needed to go back in time, and you could permit
Speaker 1: either Charles Barkley or Steve Nash to make a run
Speaker 1: with this current Sun squad. Which one are you choosing
Speaker 1: to take that ride in the Delorian.
Speaker 2: That's a great question.
Speaker 3: Everybody would crucify me if I did not say Steve
Speaker 3: Nash because we don't have a point guard and Steve
Speaker 3: Nash will be phenomenal, and I think he would. He
Speaker 3: would ultimately win us the championship. So I'm gonna go
Speaker 3: with Steve Nash. But Charles Barkley down low would be
Speaker 3: just so beautiful. I'm gonna go Steve Nash.
Speaker 2: Had of luck once again, Chuck, Sorry, Buddy, Yeah, sorry, John.
Speaker 1: Yeah, here's a fishing pole. Though.
Speaker 3: We'd be putting up like one hundred and seventy five
Speaker 3: points a game with Steve Nash, right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, right right, that's true.
Speaker 1: That's true.
Speaker 2: Finally, the final question, the ultimate question. Yeah, for sure,
Speaker 2: most important question. Yep, Jack or Miles. Wow. I like
Speaker 2: that he's taking it seriously.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he's taking this very seriously. The whole process.
Speaker 3: I you know, I don't have enough information to decide,
Speaker 3: so I'm just gonna ride the fence on that one.
Speaker 3: I like you both, man, you guys have both been
Speaker 3: pretty dope. Do I have to pick one or the other?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 3: I mean, well, because I feel like Miles and I
Speaker 3: kind of connected a little bit during the break and
Speaker 3: you went to the bathroom. Jack, I'm gonna say, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna say, Miles, Miles, Yeah, Yeah. It's also the interracial,
Speaker 3: the interracial connection that we both like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's just it's natural. Jack.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. You never had a chance, man, so you should.
Speaker 1: I never had a chance.
Speaker 2: Between the second and third act of this show, I
Speaker 2: was I was absent for like forty five minutes in
Speaker 2: the bathroom, guys, absolute paint.
Speaker 1: Job, googling stuff like what does solve? Bookman like.
Speaker 2: Get to win this one?
Speaker 1: Oh, sault Man? So I heard you were a character
Speaker 1: and breaking bad. You're like, what are you saying right now?
Speaker 2: That's the wrong sow Man.
Speaker 1: What are you doing?
Speaker 2: Bro?
Speaker 1: Well, Saal Bookman, thank you so much for joining us
Speaker 1: on Miles and Jack Got Mad Boosties. It has been
Speaker 1: a pleasure and an honor having you here. Where can
Speaker 1: people find you, follow you and experience the work that
Speaker 1: you do with phn.
Speaker 3: X, Yeah for sure, Man. They can follow me at
Speaker 3: Saul Underscore Bookman, on Twitter, on Instagram. They can follow
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Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: One of the cool things about what we do is
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Speaker 3: We we like to say we speak from the crowd,
Speaker 3: not the stage, and we want people to be engaged
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Speaker 2: I'm at Jack Underscore O'Brien.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and shout out to listener the week at Anthony
Speaker 1: Davis Inc. Said right on, I'm going to follow and
Speaker 1: listen Anthony Davis.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Wow, he said, I'm going to follow rate and listen. Wow,
Speaker 2: three the Holy Trinity.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's Anthony Davis, even though the Twitter avatar
Speaker 1: is of a completely different person. I'm gonna go ahead
Speaker 1: and take that as a.
Speaker 2: You can't really see that it's not him, So I
Speaker 2: don't know that that blue hat maybe as much as.
Speaker 1: I wanted to be an if you do one of
Speaker 1: those things where he's got you know, like how Chet
Speaker 1: Holmgren has, you know, his teammate is his avatar, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, So you never know. All right, Well,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for listening. We are going to
Speaker 1: be back next week to talk about all the goings
Speaker 1: on as the official start of the season begins, and
Speaker 1: we're gonna go try and catch our games right now
Speaker 1: because that's what's happening as we record this. So we'll
Speaker 1: talk to you later.
Speaker 2: Bye bye,