1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: It's titled the Rising Democratic Mega Movement. 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 2: You write, Democrats needing quote their own version of a 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 2: populist anti establishment MAGA like makeovers. 4 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 3: So what does that look like, Jim. 5 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: It looks like what you're just talking about with Gavin 6 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: Newsom right, trying to adopt a lot of the techniques 7 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 1: that you saw from Trump, that you've seen from Mega. 8 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: Get on social media, be a warrior, curse a lot, 9 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 1: try to have a lot of edge, and start yourself 10 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:26,799 Speaker 1: into the news cycle. 11 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 3: I think the bigger part, though. 12 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: Is what you've seen happening in New York, what you've 13 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: seen happen in Minneapolis, the popularity of Bernie Sanders, the 14 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: number of people turning out for AOC events that right 15 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 1: now the momentum in the party is very much for 16 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: the very progressive wing of the Democratic Party, which is 17 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 1: not that much of a shock, but I think is 18 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:50,639 Speaker 1: probably problematic in the off your elections for Democrats. It's 19 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: is not where the vast majority of the country seems 20 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: to be. I think it's one of the reasons that 21 00:00:55,400 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: the Democratic brand overall is low, and so that's an 22 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: important thing to watch. And in terms of your conversation 23 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 1: about the backlash, to the bill. To me, this is 24 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: going to be a really really important conversation three months 25 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 1: from now. In three months, we're going to know what's 26 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: happening with three districting. 27 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 3: If Republicans can. 28 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: Really rewire the map in a way where they could 29 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: pick up anywhere from five to ten seats, that is meaningful, 30 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: That is deeply, deeply meaningful. It's harder in these democratic 31 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: states to do it. It's easier in Texas and Republican 32 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 1: states to do it. The other is, watch the next month. 33 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 1: If inflation does what I think inflation is going to do, 34 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: it is going to be deeply, deeply problematic for the 35 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: Republican Party. If you look at what's happening with the 36 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: stock prices of Chipotle or Sweet Green or any of 37 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: these restaurants where people take their money when they have 38 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: a little bit extra and go and spend it, they're 39 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: all tanking. If you look at what you're hearing from 40 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: home Depot, your Walmarts and others, they're basically saying, listen, 41 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: we've absorbed as much of a loss as we can 42 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: from the tariffs. Come August, we have to start passing 43 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: that on to consumers. If that happens, If that happens 44 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: in home goods, if that happens in groceries, if that 45 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: happens in autos, which I think could be the next 46 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: piece to fall. That is going to make all of 47 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,959 Speaker 1: this talk about the bill that much more problematic because 48 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:13,959 Speaker 1: you're going to say, wait a second, what Joe was 49 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,519 Speaker 1: saying was right. They legitimately did get a massive tax cut, 50 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: especially if you're super wealthy or you're running a big company, 51 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: and a lot of people who were on Medicaid were 52 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:28,519 Speaker 1: requiring these government programs. Yes there's some fraud, but yes, 53 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: there's a lot of people who are authentically not going 54 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: to get benefits tomorrow that are getting them today. That's 55 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: when this becomes much much more than a side show 56 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,519 Speaker 1: at one specific event. It becomes a deep, deep, systematic 57 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 1: problem for the Republican Party. 58 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 4: I think for a lot of democracy watchers, this is 59 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 4: the nightmare scenario attacking our elections, ringing our elections. It's 60 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:54,679 Speaker 4: not just the jerrymandering, it's the attacks on the actual 61 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 4: way people vote. What are your thoughts on how vigorously 62 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 4: are not vigorously it's being protected? 63 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 5: Well, I think it needs to be protected much more vigorously, 64 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 5: and I think we need to learn from twenty twenty. Look, 65 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 5: none of us can get inside Donald Trump's brain, thank goodness. 66 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 5: I'm open to the theory that maybe just Vladimir Putin 67 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 5: just has some magic spell over him, and anything Vladimir 68 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 5: Putin says he reiterates. 69 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 3: I think that could be one theory. 70 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 5: But I think that there's another likely reason why he's 71 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 5: targeting mail in voting or other types of voting right now. 72 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 5: And it's something that we've all lived through. It's something 73 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 5: that Stephen lived through most acutely in twenty twenty, which 74 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 5: is laying the groundwork for contesting. 75 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 3: The election if it goes away he doesn't like. 76 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 5: And I think that this is as simple as that 77 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 5: we're relooking at stop the steal two point zero. He's 78 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 5: starting at early. He started that early, really back in 79 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 5: twenty twenty. It's just a lot of us didn't take 80 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 5: it that seriously in twenty nineteen. But he's throwing this 81 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 5: chum into water now. He's laying the groundwork. And so 82 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 5: if hypothetically, I don't know, the Democrats win the House 83 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 5: by three or four votes next time in a close election, 84 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 5: and there's some close races and states of mail and 85 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 5: voting like Arizona or Colorado, or California or Nevada, that 86 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 5: he will do what he did in twenty twenty and 87 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 5: try to contest the election and prevent those elections from 88 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 5: being certified. 89 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 3: I think it's pretty clear that that is what. 90 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 5: Is at least an option that they're keeping open, and 91 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 5: I think that threat to me is the most acute. 92 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 5: I think actual protection of the elections is very important too, 93 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 5: But I think that post election twenty twenty six times 94 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 5: is what we're already seeing kind of a groundhog day preview. 95 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 3: Off got a lot of things. 96 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 6: Being a NATO member involves a lot of things. But 97 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 6: the best thing you get in exchange for being a 98 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 6: part of NATO is Article five, the security guarantee that 99 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 6: if anybody attacks you, it's like attacking all the other 100 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 6: NATO members and you get the benefit from that. 101 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 3: NATO has. 102 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 6: Actually Ukraine has actually done a lot of NATO wish 103 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:57,799 Speaker 6: stuff right since nineteen ninety four, their army has operates 104 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 6: more like NATO armies, military areas operate. They've got that interoperability. 105 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 6: So tell me about what NATO without being in NATO 106 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 6: would look like for Ukraine. The security guarantee that everybody's 107 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 6: talking about that doesn't necessarily at the moment involve NATO membership. 108 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 3: What does that even look like? 109 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 7: Well, some so a step down from NATO membership, which, 110 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 7: as you point out, is the gold standard. It's also 111 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 7: the cheapest and the most effective security guarantee. 112 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 3: That there is. 113 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 7: But if that's not on the table for now, don't 114 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 7: give up on it. 115 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 3: But it's not on the table. 116 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 7: For now, then this coalition of the willing but putting 117 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 7: troops on the ground with an Article five like commitment. 118 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 7: That is this coalition willing, which is led by the 119 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 7: French and the Bridge. But it's got like thirty members, 120 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 7: thirty nations that are that are there, including now the Americans, 121 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 7: would say that NATO says. 122 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 3: If you're attacked, we're with you. 123 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 7: Where supports you, doesn't say exactly how we're with you, 124 00:05:58,000 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 7: And each of those thirty. 125 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 8: Nations will do it a little as it is in NATO. 126 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 3: As in the actual article. 127 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: R about this idea of how easy it would be to. 128 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 3: Attack the fact that rich are getting richer. 129 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: This isn't actually a political argument, it is an empirical argument. 130 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: There's no doubt that the rich are getting a lot richer, 131 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: that the poor are not getting that much richer, if 132 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: getting richer at all, that that tax bill undoubtedly favors. 133 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 3: The most wealthy. Then you look at your. 134 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 1: Stock market, you say, what's happening, Well, most of the 135 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: growth in portfolios is coming from your biggest tech companies, 136 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 1: the top seven, the fang companies. 137 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 3: Well, who are those? 138 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: That's your Zuckerberg's of the world, right, that's these big, 139 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: big companies that are already doing well, that are getting 140 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: massive assistance from the federal government. And the only people 141 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: who can really invest in a lot of these companies 142 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 1: are people who themselves are already rich. Right, if you 143 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: look at people who have money in four ah one 144 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: case or in the stock market, tend to start with 145 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 1: a lot of money to begin with. 146 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 3: So the rich are going to keep getting richer. This 147 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 3: is a. 148 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: Fantastic environment if you have money, there's no doubt about it. 149 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: And I think that is then it always sits on 150 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: top of politics, right, people are always. 151 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 3: Feeling like, is the system rigg? Is a system fair? 152 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: And if somebody's paying a lot more for a car, 153 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: a lot more for oranges, a lot more for eggs, 154 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: a lot more for stuff at the next trip. 155 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 3: To home depot. Yes, bitterness rises. 156 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: And it's why interesting Gene talks about there are no 157 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: labels if you really get to see Bannons of the 158 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: world on true serum. 159 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 3: They agree a lot with what. 160 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders will saying about the dangers of AI, about 161 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: the rich getting richer, about the dangers in that bill 162 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: going after medicaid. They're not loud about it right now, 163 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: but make no mistake, when Trump is gone, there's a 164 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: bigger disconnect there than people realize, because the Bannons of 165 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: the world, I would say, are tied more tightly to 166 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: the working class because they understand. That's why Trump exists today. 167 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: It might not be Trump's worldview. 168 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 9: Per se, but it certainly is there to headline Trump's 169 00:07:56,320 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 9: selective stamp on justice, redemption for thumbs, scorn for others. 170 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 9: Trump himself a felon, they like to point that out, 171 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 9: has shown particularly a particular leniency to criminals. He seems 172 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 9: to identify with people who are white or wealthy, or 173 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 9: who he believes have been unfairly persecuted who rioted in 174 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 9: his name. On January six, also in the article, this 175 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 9: quote from him, they would never be an asset to society. 176 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 9: He said, I don't care. I know we all want 177 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 9: to say, oh, they're going to be rehabbed. They're not 178 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 9: going to be rehabbed. That was when he was holding 179 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 9: up five month shots of pr people of color. What's 180 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 9: the difference there? What do you read from that? 181 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 10: This is a president who got his political start by 182 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 10: trying to undermine the legitimacy of. 183 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 3: The first black president. 184 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 10: The racism of this man, in this candidate is baked 185 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 10: into everything that he does. One of the things that's 186 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 10: sadust for me hearing that quote and comparing it to 187 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 10: what happened on January sixth and the subsequent parts, is 188 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 10: with January sixth, you had an overwhelmingly white riot against 189 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 10: a perhaps majority or near majority minority police force. I 190 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 10: talked to a lot of officers and one of them 191 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 10: said something that has stuck with me for several years now, said, Look, 192 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 10: I have worked a lot of riots in my career, 193 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 10: but this is the first riot that I worked where 194 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 10: the rioters thought that they were right on, that they 195 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 10: were the ones that were in charge. And what scares 196 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 10: me is when you see the present using such racist 197 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 10: to racialize language like this, it risks legitimizing what those 198 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 10: writers believed and proves them correct. 199 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 11: Yeah, And I think the question is what happens with 200 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 11: the rest of America, Right who stands up for American 201 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 11: democracy when it doesn't go the way they want? And 202 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 11: you know, we have not seen a lot of bravery 203 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 11: from pretty much anyone, right billion from billionaires to you know, 204 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 11: Republican politicians to the Supreme Court. Everyone has basically rubber 205 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 11: stamped anything Donald Trump wants to do. So there is 206 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,839 Speaker 11: going to be a moment where we're going to need 207 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 11: for democracy to keep going. 208 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 3: People are going. 209 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 11: To have to stand up, and that's going to me 210 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 11: people who are Republicans, members of the Supreme Court. They're 211 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 11: going to have to say, like this, this election was 212 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:07,839 Speaker 11: free and fair and certified. 213 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 3: And you'll remember this Supreme Court did, in fact. 214 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 11: Do that in twenty twenty. They did not take up 215 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 11: the Trump's many, many cases. So I think there's a 216 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:21,199 Speaker 11: real question about whether that moment will happen again. And 217 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 11: that is perhaps the most if you're going to be 218 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 11: concerned about anything, that would strike me as the most disconcerting. 219 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 10: This is the final scream of a dying regime. 220 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 12: Pray for our enemies, because we're going to medieval on 221 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 12: these people. There's got a free shot. 222 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 3: All these networks lying about the people. 223 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 12: The people have had a belly full of it. I 224 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 12: know you don't like hearing that. I know you've tried 225 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 12: to do everything. 226 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 3: In the world to stop there, but you're not going 227 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 3: to stop it. 228 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 8: It's going to happen. 229 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 3: And where do people like that go to share the 230 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 3: big line? Mega media? 231 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: I wish in my soul, I wish any of these 232 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: people at a conscience. 233 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 12: Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? 234 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: If that answer is to save my country, this country 235 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: will be saved. 236 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 3: War Room. 237 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 12: Here's your host, Stephen K. 238 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 13: Bab It's Wednesday, twenty August in the year Verler, twenty 239 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 13: twenty five. 240 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 12: From out the world, throughout the world, just. 241 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 13: More news, more things happening, and so let's cut. Let's 242 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,079 Speaker 13: get to the signal, not the noise. Number one for 243 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 13: twenty twenty six. Gavin Newsom's getting traction among Democrats. Why 244 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 13: he's trying to mimic Trump, He's trying to be Fight Club. 245 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,839 Speaker 13: Of course it's a parody. Of course, it's a vaudeville act. 246 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 13: I mean, it's Gavin Newsom after all. Right, but he's, 247 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 13: you know, sitting there, he's being a tough guy, he's 248 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 13: tweeting out, he's and so the Democrats love it. The 249 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 13: reason they love it they don't have any fighters over there. 250 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 13: They're all gutless. They have no policies now that nobody's there. 251 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 13: Their shows are all collapsing, their networks are collapsing. Nobody's 252 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 13: reading their newspapers they have. They can't control it anymore. 253 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 13: They can't control lots. They can't control it. 254 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 3: Now. 255 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 13: Are we winning on every front? No, but we're making 256 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 13: progress on so many fronts. The remember for twenty twenty six, 257 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 13: the mid decade census. 258 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 12: That has to be right this time. 259 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,119 Speaker 13: No illegal aliens, and you've got to get the algorithms 260 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 13: right in the collection all of the mistakes that we had. 261 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 12: Also the redistricting in down in Texas. 262 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 13: Some people are some Conservators are shitting there and wetting 263 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 13: themselves going, oh my gosh. Well, you know there are 264 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 13: rules and regulation about the Democrats. There's no rules and regulations. 265 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:48,719 Speaker 13: You put them on notice, and you put the Republicans 266 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 13: on us. That's how we got this far. Don't come 267 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 13: back with Robert's rules of order right now, and particularly 268 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 13: people say, well, you got at Tend, You've got a 269 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 13: Tend district map. Show yet what good fine? Your governor's 270 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 13: talked about it. Why don't you Why don't you lighten 271 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 13: up your governor? You know, where are the conservatives right now? 272 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 13: Get besides the war and some others get up on 273 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 13: the ramparts. We have to go maximalist on this. It 274 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 13: wasn't Steve Bannon that said ten. We're the ones who 275 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 13: started the fight for five. But then of course the 276 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:26,839 Speaker 13: fectless Republicans let them all leave and wasted week after 277 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 13: week after week. So you should get one for every 278 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 13: week you waste it. That's at least seven. But the 279 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 13: governor said he got ten. If you got ten, go 280 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 13: for ten local new local newses doing in California. The 281 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 13: last is the mail in ballots and the Senator Mike Lee, 282 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 13: the best constitutional we've got is going to come into 283 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 13: mail in ballots, and yes, and the and the left 284 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 13: sitting they're going, well, gosh, they take away mail in ballots. 285 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:49,199 Speaker 12: People are gonna have to show up. They're gonna have 286 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 12: ice agents around. People are gonna be so afraid intimidate, 287 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 12: they're gonnafraid. They're gonna be wrestled with. 288 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 13: Hey, if you're an illegal alien, you shouldn't be going 289 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 13: to the polls anyway. And if you go to try 290 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 13: to try to to try to vote. And he got 291 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 13: a couple of felonies. Other explosive news. It looks like 292 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 13: a sitting governor of the Federal Reserve is going to 293 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 13: get indicted for the same thing Latissia James did. 294 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:17,439 Speaker 12: We'll get to all that. We got so much going on. 295 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 13: Also, remember we mentioned here, Remember we mentioned security guarantees 296 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 13: on war room, and I told all these guys are 297 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 13: big talk churs Starmer goes back. You just heard that 298 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 13: was the that was the ambassador. I think to Ukraine 299 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 13: at the time that that was a witness for the 300 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 13: Trump impeachment. 301 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 12: That's comebags and they're. 302 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 13: Going, oh yeah, France and England are in and they're 303 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 13: going to be at the front line. 304 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 12: It's Article five. 305 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 13: The British have told us no moss, no moss, No 306 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 13: troops can't do it. Maybe they're going to guard a port, 307 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 13: maybe they're going to look at the air. They're gonna 308 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 13: do some air but they ain't. 309 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 3: They are not. 310 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 12: In short break, we'll explain it all to you next 311 00:14:58,160 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 12: in the. 312 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 3: War room America's voice family. Are you on Getter yet? 313 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 14: No? 314 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 15: What are you waiting for? 315 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 16: It's free, it's uncensored, and it's where all the biggest 316 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 16: voices in conservative media are speaking out. 317 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 12: Download the Getter app right now. 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Download the Getter app now, sign up 325 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 3: for free and be part of the new bank Well. 326 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 17: I mean, Steve Bennon will tell you just that he's. 327 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 8: A fan of Lisa Khns. 328 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 17: He believes like me that monopolies should be broken up. 329 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 17: I mean he believes like me that billionaires I should 330 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 17: not be getting tax cuts right now while working class 331 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 17: Americans are struggling more and more every day. And you 332 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 17: know the thing is too, I mean, it is empirical. 333 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 17: I mean we're not talking about opinions here, We're talking 334 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 17: about facts. The richest billionaires on the planet are getting 335 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 17: a lot richer because of this bill, and working Americans 336 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 17: are falling further and further behind. 337 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 8: It's not even a close call. Also, again, America's. 338 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 17: National debt will go up twenty trillion dollars over the 339 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 17: next decade. Twenty trillion dollars. The total national debt for 340 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 17: the first two hundred and twenty years of this Republic's 341 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 17: existence for trillion dollars. 342 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 8: So over two hundred and twenty years. 343 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 17: The United States government accumulated four trillion dollars of debt. 344 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 8: This Congress, with a bill. 345 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 17: They just passed, will allow the federal debt to go 346 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 17: up five times that much in the next decade. 347 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 3: Why did they do it? 348 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 17: Because they wanted to give billion They wanted to give 349 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 17: multinational corporations. They wanted to give the richest of the rich. 350 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 17: They wanted to give monopolists tax cuts. If I just say, 351 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 17: if you're a Democrat and you're running next year and 352 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 17: you can't win in a swing district, go into something else. 353 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 17: They take up water collar painting or something like that. 354 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:34,959 Speaker 13: So it's gonna be game on, folks. We're gonna have 355 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 13: a chance to refute all that with facts. If it's refutable, 356 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 13: I say it is, but you're gonna have to You're 357 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 13: gonna have to really get to the math because guess what, 358 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 13: it's the twentieth of August, and as we've told you 359 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 13: on the show over and over again, and you know, 360 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 13: at midnight on the thirtieth of September, fiscal year runs out. 361 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 12: Got to start over. 362 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 13: President Trump does not want to shut down his government 363 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 13: because he's in charge, and quite frankly, we control every 364 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 13: aspect of it, right the Supreme Court, the Senate, the House, 365 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 13: the executive branch. 366 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 12: Well, we're trying to. Of course, the deep state hasn't 367 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 12: been turfed out. 368 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 13: Although Tulca Gabbertt has a start with thirty seven principally 369 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 13: grun Dunes. There's some non grunduones having their security clearances 370 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 13: taken away. I'd like to see some bigger names on there, 371 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 13: and I'm sure they're working on them. It's a process. 372 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 13: We got to get to this math, though it's not me. 373 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 13: For instance, we sell the big beautiful bill here in 374 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 13: the supply side, tax cut of it, in a more 375 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 13: sophisticated way, not just the Fox News talking points, in 376 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 13: a more sophisticated way with bright people than anybody. 377 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 12: Okay, I noticed. 378 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 13: Speaker Johnson that you know, in the August recess that 379 00:18:58,200 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 13: everybody had to have. 380 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 12: You had to have the August receays. 381 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 13: You had to do it because you had to get 382 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 13: back to your constituents, You had to get back to 383 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 13: your town halls. I noticed a paucity of town halls, 384 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 13: and I realize that there are, you know, the Democrats, 385 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 13: some of these groups thugs are showing up and trying 386 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 13: to shout people down. 387 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 12: So it's not the easiest. 388 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 13: But I haven't seen a massive effort to sell the 389 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 13: big beautiful bill and actually what it stands for. So 390 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 13: we got to get to that part of what's happening 391 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 13: right now. Also, with everything. 392 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 12: Going on, you have Lindsey Graham and Tom Cotton and the. 393 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 13: Mitch McConnell faction are pushing through trying to push through 394 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 13: a fifty eight billion dollar bailout for Ukraine. 395 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 12: Let me be blunt. Zelenski's plan came over as three 396 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 12: hundred bllion. 397 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 13: They need this going to do. They're gonna do one 398 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 13: hundred billion dollars purchase of our weapons. That's a big 399 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 13: thing in his thing. He gave the Financial Times. He 400 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 13: leaked to the Financial Times. So that's a country has 401 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 13: no money. All that money comes from you because Europeans 402 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 13: are not stepping up. They're not gonna because why they're 403 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 13: voted turf them out. The version gonna say, well, hang on, 404 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 13: you're taking back my pension, you're taking back my August break. 405 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 13: You're taken back my healthcare, my universal health care to 406 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 13: pay a for Ukraine. 407 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 12: No, you can't have that. 408 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 13: I told you it was all a farce. We had 409 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 13: the ambassador. Oh yes, the two that are really going 410 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 13: to be here for the Article five are gonna be 411 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 13: the French and the British. 412 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 12: The British already out. They're already out. 413 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 13: Remember you make this commitment, you're there for years and 414 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 13: years and years and years and years and decades and 415 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 13: decades and decades and decades. We're still in Germany at 416 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 13: the end of the Second World War. We're still in 417 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 13: Japan at the Second World War. We're still in South 418 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 13: Korea on. 419 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 12: The armistice or truce, not a peace deal, just to 420 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 12: cease fire in Korea. Still there, still there. So you're 421 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 12: gonna be in Ukraine for decades. You're gonna be in 422 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 12: Ukraine when the kids r I was crawling around the carpet, 423 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:05,479 Speaker 12: little rugrats will be forty years old. Yep. 424 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 13: So you've got to go in tight right now. If 425 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 13: all that's cursed storm over here to Article five and. 426 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 12: All the deep thoughts on you know, all the David 427 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 12: Ignatius and Richard Haas and Amril Stavrita's deep thoughts. It 428 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 12: was deep thoughts over the weekend, deep thoughts on Monday, 429 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 12: deep thoughts ripping on President Trump. There's no there's no 430 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 12: Chris Starmer gets over. The first thing he does is 431 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 12: the British military comes out and says, you know, we 432 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 12: I think we can help her ound a port. The 433 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 12: world that we can help her ound a port. We can't. 434 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 13: We can't keep the Suez Canal open from the hooties 435 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,360 Speaker 13: from guys fighting from the fifth century, except they got 436 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 13: a couple of drones. We got to have the couple 437 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 13: of American carrier battle groups. I don't know to you know, 438 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 13: five million bucks a day. We've got to put two 439 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 13: carrier battle groups up there. That keeps the Suez open. 440 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 13: And we can give you a frigure, but we can 441 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 13: we can go maybe off of Odessa, right, we can 442 00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 13: go off Odessa. 443 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 12: We steam off Odessa, or we'll set back, you know, 444 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 12: in Hungary on the border of Moldavia with some air 445 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 12: search and will help. 446 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 13: They're not going to be there. Told you it was 447 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 13: a joke. They're not going to be there. They want 448 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 13: the Americans in, they want to tie us up. They're 449 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 13: not prepared to do anything. It's all happy talk. And 450 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 13: the Brits are the best you got. Those are guys 451 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:24,360 Speaker 13: who really have fault with us. Germans already said, can't 452 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 13: do it, No troops, can't do it. The Polish guys 453 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 13: would even come if Pasova told you that they knew 454 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 13: was a farce. 455 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 12: They said, hey, how about this. 456 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 13: We're not going to show up because they realize these 457 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 13: guys are going to try to entangle President Trump in something. 458 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 13: So the opportunity costs of Ukraine. Let's set it over 459 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 13: there and let Marco work on her for a while. 460 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 13: Somebody working around, and let's get back to Let's get 461 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 13: back to the important stuff, which is getting affordability down, 462 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 13: getting inflation down, getting the economy rip roaring, because that 463 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 13: will crush them in twenty six. 464 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:57,199 Speaker 12: I don't care what Gavin new. 465 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,919 Speaker 13: Some of these guys are skipping around and Mom, Donnie, 466 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 13: but we got to get and the fifty five billion 467 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 13: is an insult to the American people. We don't have 468 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 13: the luxury of going around the world anymore and looking 469 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 13: for places to stick our nose in. That's a European problem. 470 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 13: They want to be an EU nation. They want to 471 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 13: be a European nation. They're in you raisure right now. 472 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:24,199 Speaker 13: God bless you, go ahead and do it. Go ahead, 473 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 13: but not with American money, not with American troops. Now, 474 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 13: with American armicer You have Zelenski with one hundred billion 475 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 13: dollars that he doesn't have. 476 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 12: Remember he's broke. They have no money. 477 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 13: We pay for the military, but also you also pay 478 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 13: for their government. Every month you're paying for a baby. 479 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 13: They're pension funds. They got nice pension funds. The nurses teach, 480 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 13: you got pension funds. How's your pension fund working out? 481 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 13: It's working out okay for you. There's good. You got 482 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 13: that one. They're trying to you know, these guys are 483 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 13: coming after the social security all the time, the billionaires, 484 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 13: oligarchs on your tiny little social security. How's that because 485 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 13: you're underready Ukraine. So they got another fifty five billion. 486 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 13: It's going to be more because they're addicted to American money. 487 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 13: So they got one hundred million dollars of money they 488 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,479 Speaker 13: don't have coming to us on arms we don't have 489 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 13: because we've stripped the Pacific, we stripped everything from the 490 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 13: Persian the first, you know, the total obliteration of the 491 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 13: nuclear program of the Persians, and what we've given, what 492 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 13: we fed into Ukraine. 493 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 12: We don't have the weapons right now. 494 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 13: So it's the one hundred bion dollars a guy that 495 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 13: has no money for country that doesn't have the weapons 496 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 13: right now. That would be US with a bunch of 497 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 13: allies around who won't put up any manpower, and the 498 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 13: Ukrainians won't put up any manpower because they're at a 499 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 13: man power. The parents are saying, you're not taking any 500 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 13: more of my kids, and they're actually allowing sixty years old. 501 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 13: So they're going to have, you know, the cutting edge 502 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,360 Speaker 13: sixty year olds at at the front lines. And folks, 503 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 13: this ain't hunting terrorists. This is a good old fashioned war. 504 00:24:56,040 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 13: This is brutal. Okay, this is a war. This is 505 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 13: like the Western Front in World War One. The Russians 506 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 13: don't they don't do maneuver warfare. They do grounded out 507 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 13: their artillery, the queen of battle, the tanks, the infantry, 508 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 13: and they're not particularly shy about how many folks they lose. 509 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 13: Remember the first thing that they go into place like Stalingrad, 510 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,679 Speaker 13: it's a little bogged down. The first thing they do 511 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 13: is the commissars. They stand up a couple of generals 512 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 13: against the one they shoot them for. 513 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 12: For for morale purposes. These are not they're they're not. 514 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 13: They're not holistic, and they're not about self actualization. They're 515 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 13: about tak an inch and hold an inch. That's what 516 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 13: you're fighting over there, That's what you would get entangled with. 517 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 13: And you're our greatest ally the guys that actually fought 518 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 13: side by side with us. 519 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 12: The Brits Kurse s Armer is not even off the plane. 520 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:56,360 Speaker 13: And Andrew Neil, the old conservative war horse, he's got 521 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 13: a tweet up that just blows the whole thing up. 522 00:25:58,320 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 12: He says, the thing's totally phony. 523 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 13: We'regue, we don't have a military, we can't defend what 524 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 13: we've got our own territory. I gotta think they want 525 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 13: to give a security guarantee. Why don't they give a 526 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 13: security guarantee to the English whose churches are being burned down, 527 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 13: historical monuments are being burned down. 528 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 12: They got another one today. I think outside liberty of 529 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 12: being burned. 530 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 13: Down, and you got a mosque en route, why don't 531 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 13: you go into central London going to Soho, send the 532 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 13: troops to Soho. 533 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,199 Speaker 12: Go give a security guarantee for the British people. How 534 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 12: about that? I think they'd vote for that. Start with 535 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,199 Speaker 12: your own countries since you now and it's not me, 536 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 12: it's the British lieutenant colonel from the other day saying, Hey, 537 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 12: I think we're on the brink of civil war. 538 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 13: Think you might need your troops to that. Starmer knows 539 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 13: that no money, no arms, no men. 540 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,719 Speaker 12: Short break, talk about the fit of Reserve. 541 00:26:52,960 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 15: Next in the world, the Fed's next move the Feds 542 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 15: and next move is in Jackson Hall, Wyoming, when the 543 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 15: chairman gets the committee together and has a big conversation 544 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 15: about the future. The elephant in the room is the 545 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 15: political pressure coming from the other side of Washington, d C. 546 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 15: More specifically coming from the White House. 547 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 3: This was the LASiS this morning. We've been tracking this story. 548 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 15: The director of the Federal Housing Finance Agency, Bill Poulty, 549 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,199 Speaker 15: is urging the Attorney General Pam Boondi to investigate the 550 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 15: Federal Reserve. Governor Lisa Cook over a pair of mortgages, 551 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 15: the President taking their story, putting it out on social 552 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 15: media just moments ago and writing this that Cook must resign. 553 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 3: Now, this feels somewhat. 554 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,199 Speaker 16: Predictable in some ways because there has been a focus 555 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 16: of reshaping the Federal Reserve putting some of the allegations aside. 556 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 3: It just highlights how fraught. 557 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 16: This meeting is in Jackson Hall at a time where 558 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 16: there is so much political focus of reshaping the way 559 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 16: that they set monetary. 560 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 3: Policy framework review. 561 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 15: How valuable is this framework review when we've got a 562 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 15: linked up FED share and an administration pushing to change 563 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 15: the Federal Reserve as an institution from the bottom. 564 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, people will. 565 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 16: Be asking that question and how much does that threat 566 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 16: kind of a little large over some of the way 567 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 16: that these things are shifted. Look, a real question here, 568 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 16: and this is something that the market is looking for, 569 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 16: is how much credibility well whoever comes into the FED 570 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 16: continue to lend the idea of independence and how much 571 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 16: will global leaders on central banks. 572 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 3: Try to adify that message. 573 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 13: Okay, folks, it looks like they're going to indict a 574 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 13: sitting governor of the Federal Reserve, Lisa Cook, for this 575 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 13: mortgage frauld the same thing as Letitia James. 576 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 12: I think Poulty over it. I don't know, Freddie mac 577 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 12: Fannie May. 578 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 3: One of them went. 579 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 13: Through the went through I guess, went through the files 580 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 13: and came back and turned it over to the Justice Department, 581 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 13: referred to Justice Department for a criminal referral. 582 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 12: And methinks that Ed Martin. 583 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 13: And his weaponization team and he's all over Letitias. Ed 584 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 13: Martin actually put out a staban yes, say ten, Letisa 585 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 13: James to resign as Attorney General of New York. Big 586 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 13: tish James, right, And he essentially said, we're gonna indict 587 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 13: you and we're going to put you in prison because 588 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 13: you're guilty. Girl, Lisa Cook looks like the same thing 589 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 13: and happening, and we're bringing David Malpas David, I don't 590 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 13: believe this has ever happened before. And on the eve 591 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 13: of the Jackson Hole meetings, why don't you tell our 592 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 13: audience first? What are the Jackson Hole meetings? Why had 593 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 13: they become so important? 594 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 18: Sir Hi Steve? 595 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 14: In general, the Federal Reserve is not transparent, so there 596 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 14: are meetings where it's hard to know who's on the invite, 597 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 14: list who is there. 598 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 18: Some will be on TV. 599 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 14: They meet in Jackson Hole, Wyoming, so it's an exclusive, 600 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 14: controlled environment. There are chosen TV reporters who will be 601 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 14: there interviewing. 602 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 18: People, and they put out the message. 603 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 14: And in general the message is central banking is great 604 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 14: and should run the world. And that is the core 605 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 14: of the problem. If you think about the deep state, 606 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 14: it applies to the military complex, the trade complex, the 607 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 14: regulatory complex, the spending government spending and getting bigger, and 608 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 14: to central banking. It's the core in many ways of 609 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 14: the deep state. And they're not transparent about what the 610 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 14: senior people do in terms of their investments, how they 611 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 14: get mortgages, all of that, which I guess they're looking into. 612 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 12: You wrote this piece. 613 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 13: You know, I'm getting very concerned that there hasn't been 614 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 13: the effort to support President Trump. I mean, he had 615 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,239 Speaker 13: to with the vote to get the thing done. I mean, 616 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 13: think about that for a second. Of course, the Senate 617 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 13: left they didn't think President Trump was trustworthy enough to 618 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 13: go in real recess or you can have recess appointments. 619 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 13: So as you know, it's not nobody staffed, right, you 620 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 13: got the abet heads. We don't really have anybody else 621 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 13: you get hundreds of people backed up, including your attorney. 622 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 12: So that thing's a fiasco. 623 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 13: But they really hasn't been a huge effort by the 624 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 13: Senate in the House to get out and too basically 625 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 13: sell the big beautiful bill. Now you've got a piece, 626 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 13: I think in the Wall Street Journal. You're a growth guy, 627 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 13: you're a supply side guy. Want me through where we 628 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 13: are right now and how you believe the central bank 629 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 13: is starting our ability to really take the chains off 630 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 13: and unleash the animal spirits on growth, sir. 631 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 14: The interest rates are too damn high, and the central 632 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 14: banking around the world thinks that they know what the 633 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 14: right interest rate is for a market economy. That's not possible, 634 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 14: especially nowadays, because they pay interest to banks and so 635 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 14: they're distorting and controlling the market, and it hurts growth. 636 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 14: It means that there's not enough lending to small businesses. 637 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 14: They aren't creating the supply chain that's needed to hold 638 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 14: down prices. So they work on this fiction that fast 639 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 14: growth causes inflation. 640 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 18: Think what that does to the Trump agenda. 641 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 14: President Trump has a full growth program in terms of energy, 642 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 14: in terms of the dollar as the global reserve currency, 643 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 14: the growth of crypto, the trade changes that are going 644 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 14: to bring manufacturing home. All of that is undercut precisely 645 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 14: by the way the FED regulates small businesses and discourages 646 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 14: banks from doing that. The banks are lending to governments 647 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 14: and big corporations, and that just kills growth at the 648 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 14: medium level. The working person is not getting the new jobs. 649 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 14: It's going elsewhere, you know, to the upper end of 650 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 14: the economy. So that's my point in the Wall Street 651 00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 14: Journal article today, this is a big article point out 652 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 14: that the likelihood is that the FED, the academics will 653 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 14: join ranks and prevent change at the Federal Reserve. 654 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 12: And how are you optimistic at all? That powers? 655 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 13: Clearly Powell and the eight thousand economists at the Federal Reserve. 656 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 12: Do not agree with you. 657 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 13: They don't agree with President Trump, they don't agree with 658 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 13: was it James Fishback and all these guys come on 659 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 13: here and say Scott Bessant, Secretary Treasurer, come and say, hey, 660 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 13: the natural interest rates and we make we make this 661 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 13: analytical argument that rates can be cut. And I think Bessant, 662 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 13: who's a pretty you know, safe pair hands guy, he's 663 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 13: no radical. He's saying that it could be cut by 664 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 13: one hundred to one hundred and seventy five basis points. 665 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 12: So they don't agree with it. You would, you would, 666 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 12: You're in agreement with me. 667 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 13: That they don't that Powell and his team of economists 668 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 13: don't leave that correct. 669 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 3: That's right. 670 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 18: They have their head in the sand. 671 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 14: But isn't that what's going on in so many of 672 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 14: the deep state areas. If you say how many of 673 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:13,439 Speaker 14: the traditional economists agreed with Trump on trade, it. 674 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:14,760 Speaker 18: Was two percent. 675 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 14: And if you say how many of them actually realize 676 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 14: that government spending subtracts from the will of the people 677 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 14: and subtracts from the growth of the economy, they don't 678 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:31,439 Speaker 14: agree with that. They've been skilled schooled in Keynesianism, which 679 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 14: says government spending is great, and it's the same at 680 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 14: the FED. They really do think that fast growth is 681 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 14: dangerous for the economy because somebody might get to raise 682 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 14: their prices. And they also think, and this is what's 683 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 14: important right now, that in some way high interest rates 684 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 14: holds down the inflation rate. They just don't see that 685 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 14: the high interest rates hurt small businesses the most, and 686 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:02,800 Speaker 14: so they actually are keep the uh the inflation going 687 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 14: within the economy. I think we have to have a 688 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 14: full upheople in the models at the FED. It's not 689 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 14: just the personnel, it's the actual economic thinking on how 690 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 14: the economy works. And it's very President Trump is exactly 691 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 14: on the right track. And I think unless there's this 692 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 14: magnitude of change of the FED, then they will undercut 693 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 14: what the President is trying to. 694 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 18: Do on growth. 695 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,720 Speaker 13: What do you mean not just I mean financial models 696 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 13: come from from people or I know today AI comes 697 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 13: from somebody. 698 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:34,800 Speaker 12: You've got to purge. 699 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,359 Speaker 13: You got to rethink that, like Beston has been saying, 700 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,840 Speaker 13: you got to go back to the beginning on a 701 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 13: whiteboard and say exactly what we're doing here? Why do 702 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 13: we need a central bank? Maybe we should audit the 703 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 13: central bank? What's the what's the mission of the central bank? 704 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 12: Does it have too many mandates? Does it have not 705 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 12: enough mandates? 706 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,359 Speaker 13: And I guess you're saying, really, rethink this because this 707 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:59,240 Speaker 13: deep state on the financial side, tied to the Wall Street, 708 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 13: tied to the the Larry Finkx of the world, the 709 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 13: hedge funds of the world, they're actually it's grossly independent. 710 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 13: It's actually controlled, it's just not controlled by the American people. 711 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 13: Is that the case you're making that this has to 712 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 13: be totally rethought our concept of the central banks and 713 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 13: how it interacts with other central banks throughout the world. 714 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 3: That's right. 715 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,839 Speaker 14: I'm trying to simplify it down for people because I 716 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 14: think that people around the country can understand it better 717 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 14: than the Federal Reserve can. The high interest rates pays 718 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 14: Wall Street. It pays rich people for interest on money, 719 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 14: but it's not necessary for fighting inflation. If the Federal 720 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:46,360 Speaker 14: Reserve had the rate, let's say, fifty basis points lower 721 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:50,359 Speaker 14: in September, that would be better for the economy. That's 722 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,840 Speaker 14: what foreign central banks are doing. The Bank of England 723 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 14: has cut three times this year. The pound is not weaker, 724 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:01,760 Speaker 14: the inflation rate there is not higher, and so because 725 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:06,320 Speaker 14: it allows more growth within the economy. So I invite 726 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 14: people not to overthink this in terms of economic models 727 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,320 Speaker 14: and fancy PhD economists. 728 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:15,840 Speaker 18: They've had it wrong. 729 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,359 Speaker 14: That's why we keep getting these waves of inflation that 730 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:24,399 Speaker 14: really hurt media and income. They hurt people's wages more 731 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 14: than the inflation, so people lose ground. When the central 732 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,359 Speaker 14: bank is operating and controlling the economy the way it 733 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 14: is now, they set the floor on interest rates and 734 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:41,840 Speaker 14: they set it. The Federal Reserve is setting the interest 735 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:46,360 Speaker 14: rates high enough to benefit rich people, and that is 736 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,880 Speaker 14: not necessary within economic theory. 737 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,320 Speaker 18: Why are the US is the world superpower? 738 00:37:55,560 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 14: Why are interest rates higher here than in weaker countries? 739 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:00,880 Speaker 18: Doesn't make sense. 740 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:06,360 Speaker 14: Important in this Steve is that I think the Trump 741 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 14: plan has to bring in more about defending the dollar 742 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 14: as the world's reserve currency. The whole world wants to 743 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 14: attack that and take down the US. China in particular 744 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,720 Speaker 14: wants to do that. And so a core thing within 745 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 14: the Trump Plan is to realize that the dollar is 746 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 14: going to be a stable store of value for fifty years. 747 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:29,840 Speaker 18: It's the Trump dollar. 748 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 14: And if they said that, then interest rates could come 749 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 14: down quickly. 750 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,279 Speaker 18: Right now, I think. 751 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,359 Speaker 13: Also, I love that about the stable This is one 752 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 13: of the things we teach in the end of the 753 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:43,840 Speaker 13: Dollar Empire. 754 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:45,239 Speaker 12: What you have to do. 755 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 13: This plan, our high side plan, which gott Bessen said, 756 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:51,840 Speaker 13: this is going to be the last shot. You're going 757 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 13: to have to really have a supply site solution. It's 758 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 13: predicated on three three and a half percent, maybe even 759 00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,880 Speaker 13: higher growth. We hit three Now people saying that's an 760 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 13: anomaly because of the tariffs, and people trying to get 761 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,879 Speaker 13: ahead of the terriffs. But if rates don't come down, 762 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 13: we've going to get about a minute here. If rates 763 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 13: don't come down, do you see the possibility we can 764 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 13: get the three and a half percent growth, which is 765 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 13: kind of what we need to grow our way out 766 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 13: of this financial fiasco that handed to us by Biden. 767 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 14: I don't think we can get there because the Fed 768 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 14: is setting the interest rate at such a high level, 769 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 14: so it's hard to see that the supply chain can 770 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 14: be repaired by the small businesses that need working capital 771 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 14: unless the Fed really makes the interest rate cuts. I 772 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:41,279 Speaker 14: think they're against Trump and will resist and resist. That's 773 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,879 Speaker 14: going on this week at Jackson Hole, but it will 774 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:48,959 Speaker 14: go on over the coming months. All the PhD economists 775 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,440 Speaker 14: will say, oh, we can't possibly cut interest rates, even 776 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,239 Speaker 14: though if you look around the world, everybody else has 777 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:56,239 Speaker 14: been able to do it. 778 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 18: So this is the moment of truth. 779 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:02,280 Speaker 14: It's a golden opportunity for President Trump to really create 780 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 14: an upheaple of full up people in the FEDS, models 781 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 14: that give us better growth and more market. 782 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 12: Confidence if real quickly. 783 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 13: If Lisa Cook has to step down, President Trump's demanding 784 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,319 Speaker 13: she stepped down from the from the Board of the 785 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 13: Governors of the Federal Reserve, if she was a step 786 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,759 Speaker 13: down or you're available to step in, sir. 787 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,799 Speaker 14: Well, Steve, you know, I'm a mega guy. I'm a 788 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 14: manufacturing guy. I want to see the country do really well. 789 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 14: So everyone should step up to the moment. And so 790 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 14: I don't know about that. 791 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,400 Speaker 13: David Malpass former head of the World Bank under President Trump, 792 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,360 Speaker 13: Undersecretary for International Finance, I think number three job in 793 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,280 Speaker 13: the Treasury. Thank you so much, sir. What's your social media? 794 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 13: Can you hit it to me quick? 795 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:52,759 Speaker 18: Yeah, at David R. 796 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 14: Malpass, So that's the Twitter, orthex dot com. 797 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:58,879 Speaker 12: Thank you, sir. 798 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:03,839 Speaker 3: I appreciate Republicans in Washington. Wake up. 799 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 2: You're losing it on the most important issue in America. 800 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:08,800 Speaker 3: And that's the economy. 801 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 2: And that's not my opinion, it is the reality as 802 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,839 Speaker 2: expressed by all credible polling, including my own surveys. Now 803 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,239 Speaker 2: my newest survey. It was positive overall for Trump and 804 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 2: for the GOP voters. Thankfully, they trust Republicans on security 805 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:27,080 Speaker 2: issues from street safety to the border, and they massively 806 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:32,399 Speaker 2: back deportations. But they are also super upset and anxious 807 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 2: about the economy. 808 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:34,800 Speaker 3: And for very good reason. 809 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,399 Speaker 2: Right now, a scant twenty three percent say that your big, 810 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:43,879 Speaker 2: beautiful bill will help them independence. Today they're far more 811 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 2: pessimistic on the economy than they were last November when 812 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 2: Trump won. 813 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 3: Here's why they can't afford their lives. 814 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:56,200 Speaker 2: And they now blame you Republicans as the governing party. 815 00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,640 Speaker 2: So the time for real action and a time for 816 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:04,960 Speaker 2: a new media campaign is right now, or get ready 817 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 2: to get rinsed in the twenty twenty six mid terms, 818 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:12,120 Speaker 2: especially without the help of Trump on the ballot. Now, 819 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,920 Speaker 2: there are solutions if you get a sense of urgency 820 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,400 Speaker 2: immediately see my column. 821 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 8: For the details. 822 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,520 Speaker 12: Okay, Steve Cortez joins us. 823 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 13: Also, you just heard Malpass about the dollar we're gonna 824 00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:30,239 Speaker 13: get also hopefully Philip Patrick this morning, if we can 825 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 13: do it, if now would be tomorrow morning. Birch Gold, 826 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,520 Speaker 13: you'll understand it all. It's not the price of gold, 827 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,239 Speaker 13: it's the process of how the price is determined. 828 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:41,960 Speaker 12: Birch gold dot com. 829 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,399 Speaker 13: The end of the Dollar Empire, Birch Gold dot com 830 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,760 Speaker 13: slash Bannon that would be me. That's the promo code. 831 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,520 Speaker 13: End of the Dollar Empire seven free installments now eight 832 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,360 Speaker 13: and nine or underway. We're also coming out with a 833 00:42:53,400 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 13: physical copy of it so you can have it. Steve Cortez, 834 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:06,880 Speaker 13: Jeffrey Tucker, who I think very highly of. Jeffrey Tucker's 835 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,120 Speaker 13: got a big piece in Epic Times, which is the 836 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,399 Speaker 13: best broadsheet in this nation, as a paper that's been 837 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,080 Speaker 13: linked to by zero Hedge. I love the Zero Hedge guys. 838 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:18,399 Speaker 13: Although let's be blunt every now and again, when. 839 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,239 Speaker 12: You're clicking through the zero hitch, I tell people this, 840 00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:24,080 Speaker 12: you may click through to RT or to one of 841 00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:27,160 Speaker 12: these think tanks in Moscow that maybe got took a 842 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,240 Speaker 12: dollar or two from the KGB. 843 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 13: Not that some of our thing tanks don't take money 844 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 13: from usaid to say, but just be just be aware 845 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 13: when you go through. So but Tucker's got a thing 846 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,320 Speaker 13: about the inflation. He his piece, and he's an economist. 847 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:44,000 Speaker 13: It really doubles, it really backs up yours that we 848 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,440 Speaker 13: got to get serious about this now. And my concern is, Steve, 849 00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,759 Speaker 13: is that the House and the Senate are not out 850 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 13: selling the big beautiful bill. They're not selling the supply 851 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,480 Speaker 13: side tax cut of this. We're not getting we're not 852 00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,480 Speaker 13: getting any momentum on that. And we're coming back, folks, 853 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,080 Speaker 13: and guess what, get rate to bend over and grab 854 00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:04,279 Speaker 13: them because they got a fifty five billion dollar you know, 855 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,520 Speaker 13: Uncle Sugar is going to be tapped for fifty five 856 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,000 Speaker 13: billion dollars up to one hundred billion dollars in Ukraine 857 00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:12,400 Speaker 13: fiasco immediately, and they're going to jam in the third 858 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:13,320 Speaker 13: week of September. 859 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,600 Speaker 12: Take your number two prints of lad and write it down. 860 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:17,680 Speaker 13: They're going to come back with a non tobus that 861 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,359 Speaker 13: they're working on right now. It's going to have a 862 00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,080 Speaker 13: two trillion dollar deficit for next year, and they're going 863 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,080 Speaker 13: to put a gun to President drum Sead and said, hey, 864 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:25,279 Speaker 13: you know, we got to take care of all of 865 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,600 Speaker 13: this at one time or your government's going to have 866 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:28,239 Speaker 13: to shut down. 867 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:29,120 Speaker 12: We got to get funding. 868 00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,480 Speaker 13: It's all going to happen, folks, It's all out there 869 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,600 Speaker 13: to be happening. Steve Cortez, your thoughts. 870 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:39,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, so listen, Yes, you're exactly correct. Down, You're exactly correct. 871 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,920 Speaker 2: There is way too much complacency, way too much complacency 872 00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:46,680 Speaker 2: among Republicans in Washington, d C. On the foundational issue 873 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,000 Speaker 2: of the economy. And as I point out that video 874 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,360 Speaker 2: and in my article because of my polling, and I 875 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,960 Speaker 2: just pulled the state of Georgia, right, key swing state. Overall, 876 00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,880 Speaker 2: good poll for Republicans, but on the economy, the numbers 877 00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,799 Speaker 2: are bad and they are trending work. As a matter 878 00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,520 Speaker 2: of fact, Republicans and this administration are roughly where Biden 879 00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,600 Speaker 2: was on the economy before the election last year. So 880 00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,560 Speaker 2: think about that, okay, and take that seriously and get 881 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 2: a sense of urgency. You're exactly correct that neither the 882 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,880 Speaker 2: admin nor Republicans on Capitol Hill are selling the economic 883 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:20,640 Speaker 2: message the way they should. They believe that once they 884 00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:22,960 Speaker 2: passed the big beautiful bill that they were done selling. No, 885 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,640 Speaker 2: that's in many ways the start of the campaign, right, 886 00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,840 Speaker 2: and they should be promoting the wins on trade, the 887 00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,759 Speaker 2: wins on shoring the fact that wages are growing up, 888 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:33,800 Speaker 2: going up. There is a lot of good news to tell, 889 00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,040 Speaker 2: but there's also really worrisome news. And I think you're 890 00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,640 Speaker 2: exactly right that article from Jeffrey Tucker, who's brilliant. He 891 00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,480 Speaker 2: points out, for example, that M two aggregate money supply 892 00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:44,960 Speaker 2: is now back near the highs of twenty twenty two, 893 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,080 Speaker 2: when inflation was raging at its worst levels of the 894 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,120 Speaker 2: Biden nomics fiasco. I point out in my article, you 895 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,440 Speaker 2: right now have beef prices at all time highs. They 896 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,880 Speaker 2: have set a new all time high in each of 897 00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:59,480 Speaker 2: the last six months, Chicken at all time highs, bananas 898 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:00,320 Speaker 2: at all times. 899 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:01,360 Speaker 3: When you look at the United. 900 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,600 Speaker 2: States dollar, one of the reasons that that pain is 901 00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,120 Speaker 2: at the grocery store is a lot of American steve. 902 00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:09,040 Speaker 2: They don't realize that they are implicitly currency traders. They 903 00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,520 Speaker 2: may never watch currency markets, but you are buying these 904 00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,960 Speaker 2: good in dollars. And when you go into a Walmart, 905 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,280 Speaker 2: the majority of the goods in there are from overseas, 906 00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,359 Speaker 2: which is a shame, but that's the reality right now. 907 00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,840 Speaker 2: So the value of the dollar is directly tied to 908 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,200 Speaker 2: your buying power at Walmart or wherever you shop. And 909 00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,040 Speaker 2: when you look at the dollar to your currency, for 910 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,359 Speaker 2: all the problems of Europe, to your currency has been 911 00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:32,319 Speaker 2: kicking the dollars ass all year, Gold well above three 912 00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,960 Speaker 2: thousand dollars an ounce, Bitcoin well above one hundred thousand, 913 00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,600 Speaker 2: just hit one hundred and eighteen thousand dollars per coin, 914 00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,520 Speaker 2: So the dollar is sliding demonstrably. So what I want 915 00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,120 Speaker 2: to see from Capitol Hill, and the administration is a 916 00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:47,560 Speaker 2: decided effort on messaging to start defending the dollar. By 917 00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,759 Speaker 2: the way, I think David Malpass is exactly correct to 918 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,879 Speaker 2: start jawboning the dollar, because if the Fed lowers interest 919 00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,800 Speaker 2: rates and we don't have a concurrent strong dollar policy, 920 00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:59,359 Speaker 2: then the dollar is going to get absolutely rinsed from here. 921 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:00,720 Speaker 3: And that is a very very real danger. 922 00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:04,040 Speaker 2: And in terms of a policy change, tangible policy change, 923 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:07,520 Speaker 2: President Trump has floated these tariff rebate checks, Steve, that 924 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:09,719 Speaker 2: needs to happen, and it needs to happen now and 925 00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,800 Speaker 2: make them a consequential amount only for middle class folks. 926 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:16,640 Speaker 12: Okay, well, hang on, hang on, hang hang on a second, 927 00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,000 Speaker 12: hang on second. You're not a crazy man. You're very 928 00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:23,160 Speaker 12: You're very you know, you're always very safe. Parents. You 929 00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:23,920 Speaker 12: talked about the economy. 930 00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,160 Speaker 13: You are coming Empirically, last time I looked, we hit 931 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,240 Speaker 13: thirty seven training in debt. We just hid thirty seven. 932 00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,640 Speaker 13: We've got we're gonna have a two training dollars deficit 933 00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:32,160 Speaker 13: by the time midnight strikes. 934 00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:35,800 Speaker 12: When it strikes for Cinderella at midnight on the thirtieth 935 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,399 Speaker 12: two trallion dollars for this year, they're gonna jam us. 936 00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,600 Speaker 12: I'm telling you they're gonna jam us in the third 937 00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:45,680 Speaker 12: week of September. They're gonna jam us with an omnibus. 938 00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,799 Speaker 12: Is gonna have another two trallion dollar deficit. That's why 939 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,520 Speaker 12: they kicked up the debt limit to five trillion dollars. 940 00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,440 Speaker 13: So how can we give rebate checks off the top 941 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:56,560 Speaker 13: when we got to pay down that deficit. 942 00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:58,960 Speaker 12: Steve Cortez, give me thirty seconds. I'm a holding through 943 00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:00,680 Speaker 12: the break. What do you got sure you know? 944 00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:01,760 Speaker 3: I'll tell you two ways. 945 00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,239 Speaker 2: One is to cut defence, right, which we can and 946 00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,480 Speaker 2: should do if we're smarter about our defense budget and 947 00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,960 Speaker 2: not defending the world. And the second one related to 948 00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:12,040 Speaker 2: that is stop spending on Ukraine. Okay, But also, look, 949 00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,160 Speaker 2: I don't want to hear that Republicans on Capitol Hill 950 00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,879 Speaker 2: are going to suddenly get religion on the deficit after 951 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:20,799 Speaker 2: they pass this gargantuan profligacy bill, right, I mean, don't 952 00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:22,920 Speaker 2: tell me now that you've got religion when we need 953 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,800 Speaker 2: to deliver tangible benefits to middle class people. Middle class 954 00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:27,759 Speaker 2: people need to have a seat at the table in 955 00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,240 Speaker 2: trade negotiations. They need to have skin in the game 956 00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,360 Speaker 2: in these terrorists. They need to feel a financial benefit 957 00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,600 Speaker 2: from what President Trump is doing. And again I don't 958 00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,479 Speaker 2: want to hear that they suddenly have religion on debt. 959 00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,920 Speaker 12: Okay, hang on a second. We're going to go out 960 00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:47,920 Speaker 12: with the right stuff because that's what this show promotes. 961 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,840 Speaker 12: Mike Lee's going to join us the great Constitutionalists in 962 00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,200 Speaker 12: the United States Center from Utah. Steve Cortez is going 963 00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:54,759 Speaker 12: to stick around. 964 00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,080 Speaker 13: We're going to talk about the Make America Healthy Again 965 00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:58,560 Speaker 13: in Brazil next