Speaker 1: Welcome to the Official Jets Podcast, Eric Allen here at
Speaker 1: One Jets Drive. I'm joined by Lejadusable. Not only today,
Speaker 1: but we are going to do this a number of
Speaker 1: times leading up to the draft.
Speaker 2: I think four and all dues.
Speaker 1: So get comfortable, brother, we got a lot of things
Speaker 1: to talk about.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 4: EA can't wait to dive into this draft with you
Speaker 4: and see how it affects the Jets. I know a
Speaker 4: lot of great topics today. Just I believe had a
Speaker 4: big signing on the show earlier, if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 2: Big signing. Mike Williams was just in the studio.
Speaker 1: He is actually leaving One Jets Drive here a second ago.
Speaker 1: I saw him walking down the stairs, so he's awfully
Speaker 1: excited to be here. And in fact, just to give
Speaker 1: people some background what's going on at the facility, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of Taylor Ham egg and cheese sandwiches that
Speaker 1: have been delivered here today.
Speaker 2: How about that?
Speaker 3: Sure?
Speaker 4: I mean what once NYJ Matt sent that sandwich and
Speaker 4: it went viral and that was the closing factor, determining
Speaker 4: factor Mike Williams signing. You knew rest of Jet Nation
Speaker 4: was going to come out in droves and send nothing
Speaker 4: but breakfast sandwiches to one Jets drive just to make
Speaker 4: sure Mike Williams has a taste of every good Taylor
Speaker 4: ham and egg and cheese sandwich.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta watch my way, so I don't know
Speaker 2: how many of those I can eat, dudes. But let's
Speaker 2: get to that right now.
Speaker 1: Again, we're going to be focused primarily on the draft,
Speaker 1: but on today's installment of the Official Jets Podcast, I
Speaker 1: want to talk about what the Jets have done so
Speaker 1: far this off season and how that's going to impact
Speaker 1: Joe Douglass and his staff as they approached the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four NFL Draft. So, Mike Williams, what did you
Speaker 1: think about that edition big signing?
Speaker 4: If you would have told me going into free agency
Speaker 4: that it could couple of Tyren Smith in this scenario
Speaker 4: as well, but that Joe d would sign Tyron Smith
Speaker 4: and Mike Williams, I would have thought there would have
Speaker 4: been a lot more money allocated to those two players
Speaker 4: in regards to getting that deal done. So shout out
Speaker 4: to Joe D. When you look at the Tyron Smith deal,
Speaker 4: essentially a one year, six point five million dollar deal,
Speaker 4: heavily incentive based from one of the top offensive tackles
Speaker 4: went healthy on the field, and if you look at
Speaker 4: Mike Williams, right, the Jets needed somebody that could take
Speaker 4: pressure off Garrett Wilson, and Mike Williams is that guy
Speaker 4: when the quarterback needs help. The big frame of you know,
Speaker 4: six foot six, two hundred up to ten pounds. He's
Speaker 4: a guy that can go up and get it and
Speaker 4: a good thing about him ea and even though he's
Speaker 4: had some injury issues the last couple of years, but
Speaker 4: if you look at his last two years span, he's
Speaker 4: only had one drop right, which plagued the Jets last year.
Speaker 4: So you talk about a guy that again when you're
Speaker 4: in trouble as a quarterback. He's a true ex receiver,
Speaker 4: the big boy, big body receiver that can go up
Speaker 4: and be physical and get the ball. And then you
Speaker 4: talk about the red zone presence, right, guy that went
Speaker 4: in doubt if he's one on one on the island.
Speaker 4: We've seen Aaron Rodgers already do to some preseason with
Speaker 4: Garrett Wilson. Checked the play and throw that fade well,
Speaker 4: instead of it being a fifty to fifty jump ball
Speaker 4: for Mike Williams, it's more like seventy thirty, sixty forty.
Speaker 4: He's coming down with the football. So I thought this
Speaker 4: was a massive get not only for the Jets offense,
Speaker 4: but for the development of Garrett Wilson because we know
Speaker 4: the type of player he can be in the potential
Speaker 4: he has.
Speaker 3: He saw a lot of double coverage.
Speaker 4: It's gonna be hard to do that with a guy
Speaker 4: like Mike Williams on the other side.
Speaker 1: So Mike Williams in with the Chargers twice in a
Speaker 1: thousand yard receiver. His yards per catch really off the
Speaker 1: charts in terms of comparing him to other receivers in
Speaker 1: the NFL. And you're right about the contested catches. He's
Speaker 1: a guy who will go up and get it one
Speaker 1: on one he isn't covered. So with all that being sad,
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to continue rehabbing. We imagine suffered that
Speaker 1: ACL injury in Week three last year year. Why is
Speaker 1: he such a good compliment You touched upon it a
Speaker 1: little bit, but why specifically such a good compliment for
Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson in terms of what the Jets can do
Speaker 1: formation wise?
Speaker 4: Yeah, because with Garrett Wilson, you can line him up
Speaker 4: at all three receiver positions right XX and then the slot.
Speaker 4: And the way that they started using Garrett Wilson more
Speaker 4: last year was they were motioning him right. When you
Speaker 4: do that, you can kind of roll and see where
Speaker 4: coverage is rolling to. But when you have a big
Speaker 4: X receiver on the outside, that safety has to respect
Speaker 4: that right. He can't just go with Garrett Wilson is at.
Speaker 4: So now it's going to free up the middle of
Speaker 4: the field a lot more for Garrett Wilson, which we
Speaker 4: know that's where he does a lot of his damage.
Speaker 3: EA.
Speaker 4: We saw going back two years ago when he caught
Speaker 4: that inbreaking route versus Chicago Bears and they cut back
Speaker 4: against that defense for like a fifty plus yard touchdown.
Speaker 4: Like that's what Garrett Well, Garrett Wilson does really well
Speaker 4: and better than a lot of receivers really attack the
Speaker 4: middle of the field.
Speaker 3: So now when you have that big receiver on the.
Speaker 4: Outside, safety has the hole just a little bit because
Speaker 4: if he goes right where Garrett Wilson is right away,
Speaker 4: the quarterback has that option just to throw it up
Speaker 4: to that monster. Mike Williams and you talked about him
Speaker 4: coming down with contested catches one of the best in
Speaker 4: the NFL.
Speaker 3: You also alluded to his yards per catch.
Speaker 4: A lot of that is because he goes up in
Speaker 4: those fifty fifty jump balls and gets forty yard or
Speaker 4: fifty yard bombs down the field, because he uses his
Speaker 4: body almost like a power forward in basketball, being able
Speaker 4: to box out smaller corners and go high point the football.
Speaker 4: So that's how I said it's not just big for
Speaker 4: this offense. I think it's pivotal for Garrett Wilson's development
Speaker 4: as well, because now it'll be hard to roll coverage
Speaker 4: to him, because if you do that, there's gonna be
Speaker 4: five or six times where Aaron Rodgers could just throw
Speaker 4: the ball up to Mike Williams and again, with his
Speaker 4: frame and his body size, there's a good chance he's
Speaker 4: coming down with the football.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Really exceptional first down conversion rate. And the thing about
Speaker 1: Williams is he's not catching the ball really close to
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. I mean he's catching the ball
Speaker 1: down down.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And you pair him up ideally with one of the
Speaker 1: best vertical passers we've ever seen in the National Football
Speaker 1: League and Aaron Rodgers, and you're just opening things up
Speaker 1: for everybody on offense. Do you think right now, Joe
Speaker 1: Douglas says free agency, I'm good at receiver at this point.
Speaker 1: I signed the big Fish and Mike Williams. I have
Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson al Zard still on the roster. We saw
Speaker 1: some stops from Xavier Gibson and Jason Browne last year.
Speaker 4: No I could see him still going out there. I
Speaker 4: think Joe Douglas has done a really good job of
Speaker 4: letting the market come to him and not reaching an
Speaker 4: over quote unquote overpaying players. Right, we saw the receiver
Speaker 4: market not take off like it has in past years,
Speaker 4: and that's because the NFL Draft is laden with so
Speaker 4: much talent at the receiver position.
Speaker 3: Ea. I was just saying this yesterday.
Speaker 4: The NFL draft kind of dictates how the NFL moves,
Speaker 4: and that's even including free agency. People were saying that
Speaker 4: the running back value in the market was dead right
Speaker 4: because of positional value, But we saw because the NFL
Speaker 4: Draft doesn't have a strong running back class, running backs
Speaker 4: get top market in free agency this past year. Adversely,
Speaker 4: it's been opposite for the receivers, right. Besides Calvin Ridley,
Speaker 4: you can maybe even throw Mike Evans in there. The
Speaker 4: receivers that are normally number twos who get paid like
Speaker 4: number ones in free agency because they hit the open market.
Speaker 3: That didn't happen this offseason.
Speaker 4: And it's because the NFL draft receiver class is so strong.
Speaker 4: So you know, those guys like Tyler Boyd that are
Speaker 4: still out there, there's some good receivers that are still
Speaker 4: out there where I think Joe Douglas could even take
Speaker 4: a one or two year filler on some of these
Speaker 4: guys just to make sure the Jets have all the
Speaker 4: depth necessary just in case somebody does go down. But
Speaker 4: the great thing that Joe Douglas has done is really
Speaker 4: kind of fixing a lot of the holes going into
Speaker 4: free agency. That way, the book opens up for them
Speaker 4: at the number ten pick. You know, Joe Douglas can
Speaker 4: go so many ways. And we talked about Gary Wilson
Speaker 4: and I'll throw it back to you a A. But
Speaker 4: to me, this helps Breeze Hall more than anybody. With
Speaker 4: the Mike Williams signing. Right, we talked about safety is
Speaker 4: not being able to lean towards Garrett Wilson. Well, you're
Speaker 4: not gonna be able to keep that guy, the extra
Speaker 4: guy in the box as well, because if you get
Speaker 4: man o man coverage. We talked about Aaron Rodgers in
Speaker 4: the freedom he has at the line of scrimmage. You
Speaker 4: don't believe he's gonna throw that up to Mike Williams
Speaker 4: if he sees him in man coverage for sure on
Speaker 4: the island.
Speaker 3: So that keeps that.
Speaker 4: Extra safety out of the box, which will open up
Speaker 4: running lanes for Breeze Hall.
Speaker 3: So to me, he's the biggest winner.
Speaker 4: Yes, it's gonna help Garrett Wilson, but to me, Breece
Speaker 4: Hall is the biggest winner with this Mike william signing.
Speaker 1: I like that, Okay. So we are taping Wednesday morning.
Speaker 1: There are reports right now that Ohio State standout receiver
Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison is not working out at Ohio.
Speaker 2: State's pro day.
Speaker 1: We know he chose not to work out Indianapolis at
Speaker 1: the Combine as well. I'm bringing up Harrison because prior
Speaker 1: to the signing of Mike Williams NFL Draft, NFL media
Speaker 1: Draft expert Daniel Jeremiah had an interesting scenario debt he
Speaker 1: proposed on this podcast with Bucky Brooks.
Speaker 2: Let's take a listen right.
Speaker 5: Now, and the phone just rang, and it's Joe Ortiz
Speaker 5: one of his best friends and Joe Douglas from the
Speaker 5: New York Jets work together for twenty years, and he's
Speaker 5: all in. Joe Douglas has signed thirty three year old
Speaker 5: Tyron Smith Morgan Moses older tackle. On the other side,
Speaker 5: they went out and got John Simpson to play guard.
Speaker 5: Now you can say, maybe this is a house of
Speaker 5: cards with the age of these offensive linemen, but this
Speaker 5: is a forty year old quarterback. They are all in
Speaker 5: to win one in the next two years, So why
Speaker 5: not be bold? And do you think that they would
Speaker 5: have any issues parting with next year's second round pick,
Speaker 5: which would be the cost. So you go from ten
Speaker 5: to five as the Jets, you trade next year's second
Speaker 5: round pick. They don't have a second round pick this
Speaker 5: year because that was Rogers Steele and the Jets go
Speaker 5: up and they pair their wide receiver Garrett Wilson with
Speaker 5: his former teammate and Marvin Harrison Junior with the fifth pillar.
Speaker 1: Okay, dudes, so DJ says, the Jets move up to
Speaker 1: number five. The Chargers move back because they're starting under
Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh, the new coach there, and they want to
Speaker 1: address the line of scrimmage and obviously they'll probably get
Speaker 1: an offensive lineman at ten, but the Jets go up
Speaker 1: all the way five and take Marvin Harrison. Do you
Speaker 1: consider that now that Williams is here with the Green
Speaker 1: and White.
Speaker 4: I love my guy, DJ just have thrown out chaos
Speaker 4: on a random Tuesday in the NFL during college basketball
Speaker 4: season when it's March madness.
Speaker 3: This is my thing. I don't know if the Chargers
Speaker 3: take that deal.
Speaker 4: First and foremost, you're talking about not even getting draft
Speaker 4: capital for this year. It would be the following year
Speaker 4: and they're moving back five spots. So I don't even
Speaker 4: know if the Chargers would take that call, even though
Speaker 4: Joe Douglas does have a good relationship with their GM.
Speaker 4: To me, after signing Mike Williams and how deep this
Speaker 4: receiver class is, I don't think it makes sense. You
Speaker 4: know my affinity for Rome Adoonzay. I honestly think he's
Speaker 4: going to be the best receiver when it's said and done,
Speaker 4: out of the top three guys when we talk about
Speaker 4: elite neighbors, Marvin Harrison Junior and Roma Doonza. So to me,
Speaker 4: if you're Judge Douglas, you stay pat. I think if anything,
Speaker 4: this is what Joe Douglas has done in free agency
Speaker 4: has allowed this team the flexibility to take calls to
Speaker 4: move potentially move back and get a second round pick
Speaker 4: for this year's draft. So to me, I wouldn't consider
Speaker 4: doing it because I just think as far as the
Speaker 4: skills set between elite neighbors, to me, who is the
Speaker 4: best stopping go receiver as far as getting up to
Speaker 4: acceleration and probably the most explosive. Out of the three,
Speaker 4: Marvin Harrison is probably the most complete, and to me,
Speaker 4: Romaduonze is the best fifty to fifty contested guy who
Speaker 4: has a pro mindset already and he's a game breaker
Speaker 4: as well. I don't think you need to move up
Speaker 4: and give up future draft cap, especially a second round
Speaker 4: pick to move up when these guys are so close
Speaker 4: and talent wise, I think Roma Dunes again will be
Speaker 4: the best one. It's all said, and then you can
Speaker 4: potentially get him at ten depending on where the draft falls.
Speaker 3: Hopefully it falls in your favor real quickly.
Speaker 1: You're taking Harrison basically off the board for the Jets,
Speaker 1: which I totally get unless he was there at ten.
Speaker 1: With that, with that being said, do you think he'll
Speaker 1: slip it all or you think he's gonna be fine.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think he slips at all. The crazy
Speaker 4: thing is a people always put a precipice on tape.
Speaker 4: So now it's time for gms and scouts and coaches
Speaker 4: to stand behind that.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: If the tape is the thing that really matters, then
Speaker 4: why do I need to work out.
Speaker 3: I'm preparing for the NFL. Why do I need to
Speaker 3: work out?
Speaker 4: Like literally, as the kids say, a stand on business,
Speaker 4: it's about if it's about the tape, stand on business.
Speaker 1: Speaking of business, the Jets started this off season with
Speaker 1: malta needs offensive line, tackle and guard, wide receiver, backup quarterback.
Speaker 1: You might even want to say running back after Brisau,
Speaker 1: your Belkyle, you got Israel Obana Konda. Defensively, some questions
Speaker 1: a defensive tackle as far as those guys who are
Speaker 1: expiring contracts, and then safety also, Now we can I
Speaker 1: think at edge into the equation. Let's go one by
Speaker 1: one what Joe Douglass and his personnel staff has done
Speaker 1: here in free agency. How do you think potentially it
Speaker 1: impacts the Jets. In the draft, they have eight selections,
Speaker 1: starting with number ten overall. Offensive line, left guard John
Speaker 1: Simpson comes in from the Baltimore Ravens. Right tackle Morgan Moses,
Speaker 1: who most recently, of course played with the Ravens, but
Speaker 1: is a former Jet. He'll come over pencil him in
Speaker 1: at right tackle, and then.
Speaker 2: Big Tyrone Smith In, a time.
Speaker 1: Pro bowler, a two time first team All Pro, a
Speaker 1: three times second team All Pro. What do you think
Speaker 1: about how Joe is gone and addressed the offensive line.
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's let's start in the trenches. You know, that's
Speaker 4: why I want to start anyway. A When you look
Speaker 4: at this offensive line, I think he's done a massiful
Speaker 4: job again not overshooting the market, letting the market come
Speaker 4: to him John Simpson. If you look at that deal,
Speaker 4: it was a lot lower than people originally thought it
Speaker 4: was when the original numbers came out. And you're talking
Speaker 4: about a guy that's a tone setter. I think that's
Speaker 4: what the New York just needed. Somebody that eats with
Speaker 4: their hands at lunch. That's what I call John Simpson.
Speaker 4: He's a guy that's gonna eat with his hands. He's
Speaker 4: gonna he's gonna wear that hard hat to work every day,
Speaker 4: and he's gonna be the physical presence on that offensive line,
Speaker 4: and I think we saw what Breist Hall tweeted when
Speaker 4: you know John Simpson signed and he was very excited
Speaker 4: also when Morgan Moses signed too, because Morgan Moses is
Speaker 4: one of the best run blocking right tackles in all
Speaker 4: of football. So now talk about getting a lot nastier
Speaker 4: on the offensive line, I think some of that was
Speaker 4: missing last year. You need some offensive linemen that want
Speaker 4: to take the heads off of the guy and an
Speaker 4: opponent in front of him, and guys that finished throughout
Speaker 4: the echo of the whistle. And that's exactly what John
Speaker 4: Simpson does. And you talk about Tyron Smith, we talked
Speaker 4: about all the accolades that he had. The biggest thing
Speaker 4: with him has always been health. Can he stay healthy.
Speaker 4: He's missed thirty plus games in the last four years,
Speaker 4: but just going back to last season was a second team.
Speaker 3: Hall Pro guys.
Speaker 4: So I'll let you know the skill set he has
Speaker 4: when he's available, But that is the big question mark.
Speaker 4: Can he be available? And the thing is with that
Speaker 4: contract that the Jets got him to sign, right, he
Speaker 4: has every motivation to be healthy because a lot of
Speaker 4: it is tied to end game playing. Right, he has
Speaker 4: to be on the field to hit some of those incentives.
Speaker 4: So if you're Tyron Smith, you have all the motivation. Also,
Speaker 4: you get to play with Aaron Rodgers and he talked
Speaker 4: about that as well, a guy that's kicked his butt
Speaker 4: in the playoffs a couple times. So right now you
Speaker 4: get to play with one of the best quarterbacks in
Speaker 4: our generation. So I think that was a motivation in
Speaker 4: itself for him to come over to the just justiny
Speaker 4: he saw the young offensive weapons that the Jets have
Speaker 4: as well.
Speaker 3: So when you look at.
Speaker 4: This offensive line, I think the biggest winner is Elijah
Speaker 4: Vera Tucker because there was question marks hea where was
Speaker 4: he going.
Speaker 3: To line up? Right? People didn't know what was gonna be,
Speaker 3: left tackle, right tackle. Guard.
Speaker 4: To me, he's a Pro Bowl slash All Pro type
Speaker 4: of guard, but he hasn't been able to solidify himself
Speaker 4: there because they've had to move him around because of injuries.
Speaker 4: Now they can solidify him at the guard position where
Speaker 4: he can get comfortable for the next few years and
Speaker 4: hopefully for the foreseeable future.
Speaker 3: And I also wonder with that moving around.
Speaker 4: Did that maybe have an, I want to say, an
Speaker 4: outlook or maybe have some ramifications in regards to some
Speaker 4: of the injuries because again, when you're using different parts
Speaker 4: of your bodies, whether you line up on the right
Speaker 4: side or left side, your body gets used to one side.
Speaker 4: The other side is weaker. Ea, Like when you have
Speaker 4: to get thrown into the fire on the other side,
Speaker 4: maybe some of that that muscle memory isn't there and
Speaker 4: that can lead to maybe some injuries. It'll be good
Speaker 4: for the young player, a sending player to be locked
Speaker 4: into a guard spot. And we love what we saw
Speaker 4: from Joe Tipman last year as a rookie. You would
Speaker 4: think in his second year he's gonna send and take
Speaker 4: another step solidified at the center position. So I love
Speaker 4: what Joe Douglas did as far as getting really good
Speaker 4: players right, not over shooting the market, because we saw
Speaker 4: a lot of guards get up words to fifteen, sixteen,
Speaker 4: seventeen million dollars on the open market. I think Joe
Speaker 4: Douglas did a good job of letting the market come
Speaker 4: to him and solidifying the offensive line with good players.
Speaker 2: Could tackle still be.
Speaker 1: At top of mind for the Jets early in the draft,
Speaker 1: right now the first round selection, then their schedule to
Speaker 1: select again of course in round three. Eight picks overall,
Speaker 1: as we talked about Morgan Moses, he's got one year
Speaker 1: remaining on his deal, and we know that Tyron Smith
Speaker 1: comes in, he gets a one year deal with a
Speaker 1: lot of incentives.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I think it's still on the top of
Speaker 4: Joe Douglas's mind. And if you know Joe d he
Speaker 4: has affinity for trench play, right. And when I say
Speaker 4: trench player, that's offensive line and defensive line. And you
Speaker 4: say that the perfect ea. When you look at your
Speaker 4: two starting tackles, they're both on one year deal. So,
Speaker 4: like good teams build for the future. Now, I think
Speaker 4: Carter Warren does need to be in that discussion as
Speaker 4: far as development and potentially taking over one of those
Speaker 4: spots in the near future. But at the end of
Speaker 4: the day, you're still going to have a void at
Speaker 4: the other tackle position, right, So when you look at
Speaker 4: this draft at the number ten spot, I don't think
Speaker 4: signing Tyron Smith and Morgan Moses absolves the Jets from
Speaker 4: not taking the offensive tackle a guy that's versus that
Speaker 4: can be a swing guy that could play inside and outside.
Speaker 4: But it also gives a just the freedom because they
Speaker 4: do they did bring in two starters that they don't
Speaker 4: have to necessarily take a tackle or it gives them
Speaker 4: the flexibility, like we talked about earlier EA to potentially
Speaker 4: move back and get some draft capital.
Speaker 1: Speaking of freedom, you got freedom, more freedom at receiver.
Speaker 1: I would imagine now with Williams coming back and know
Speaker 1: he's rehappened, and we'll find out where he's at in
Speaker 1: his recovery in the coming weeks and months. But again,
Speaker 1: you got more numbers here. And I've been talking to
Speaker 1: you about this, dudes for weeks and probably even months
Speaker 1: that this receiver class. Yeah, it's loaded its top, but
Speaker 1: the depth really goes.
Speaker 2: On for rounds here. This could be a historic class.
Speaker 3: It really could.
Speaker 4: There's gonna be guys that get taken into the late second,
Speaker 4: maybe even early third, that have first round talent. And
Speaker 4: I don't just say that lightly, Like there's literally guys.
Speaker 4: When we look at Lad McConkie who may sneak in
Speaker 4: late in the first, he's probably gonna go in the second.
Speaker 4: He has first round talent. Ricky Piersol guy is probably
Speaker 4: going to go in the third round from Florida. He
Speaker 4: potentially can have first round talent as well. Jay von
Speaker 4: Baker is another guy that's probably gonna go third, fourth
Speaker 4: round who has the potential to be a really good
Speaker 4: player as well at the receiver position.
Speaker 3: So it's really good depth.
Speaker 4: And maybe you know Joe Douglas is thinking about that
Speaker 4: at that number ten spot when we talked about potentially
Speaker 4: trading back, because to me, if you have one of
Speaker 4: the big three and when I say the big three
Speaker 4: at receiver, Roma Doomsa Elak Neighbors Marvin Harrison Junior, if
Speaker 4: one of those three fall at ten, I think it
Speaker 4: makes the most sense to go ahead and turn that
Speaker 4: card in right away. But maybe Joe d is like,
Speaker 4: this is a scenario where because this is such a
Speaker 4: deep receiver class that I could maybe trade back, hopefully
Speaker 4: get a high to mid second round pick, and even
Speaker 4: potentially take a really good receiver there that has first
Speaker 4: round talent. So you got to look at it from
Speaker 4: that perspective when you look at your board and it
Speaker 4: all comes down to your top one fifty, what you
Speaker 4: have on your board as far as best player available.
Speaker 4: And that's another good thing that Joe Douglas did. He
Speaker 4: did it such a good job at free agency. He
Speaker 4: could literally take the best player available pick number ten
Speaker 4: instead of having to reach for a specific position.
Speaker 3: Right, if there's.
Speaker 4: Somebody that's there that he really likes, that maybe graded
Speaker 4: out as a number seven or eight on their board,
Speaker 4: they can take them now. Because he's done a good
Speaker 4: job in free agency. So when you look at the
Speaker 4: signing of Mike Williams again, I don't think that absolves
Speaker 4: the Jets from potentially taking the first round receiver because
Speaker 4: the same scenario. Right, he's on a one year deal,
Speaker 4: so you're gonna have this issue again next year. But
Speaker 4: if you get a receiver in the draft, whether it's
Speaker 4: in the first round or you trade back and get
Speaker 4: one in the second round, you have him locked in
Speaker 4: with Garrett Wilson for at least the next four years.
Speaker 4: So I know Joe Douglass has to be thinking about
Speaker 4: that as he's going through this process.
Speaker 1: Okay, so before we flip it over to the defensive
Speaker 1: side of the ball real quickly, it's not April yet,
Speaker 1: but your thoughts on Georgia tight on of brock Bauers,
Speaker 1: because I know a lot of Jets fans after Williams
Speaker 1: put pen to paper, said hey, let's complete this thing
Speaker 1: with the offensive skill uh positions and go to him
Speaker 1: where are you with Bauers at this point?
Speaker 4: Tends is rich for me. Ea when you look at him,
Speaker 4: very explosive player. You turn on that Auburn film, he
Speaker 4: literally single handedly beat that team, especially in the second half.
Speaker 3: A guy that is who is competitive at blocking.
Speaker 4: He's not a great blocker, but he will fit it
Speaker 4: up in there and get in front of somebody. But
Speaker 4: to me, we talked about positional value earlier, I think
Speaker 4: that's way too high for tight end.
Speaker 3: Where did you see that?
Speaker 4: I mean you saw it with I think Vernon Davison
Speaker 4: and Pitts, Kyle Pitts. I would say that Vernon Davis
Speaker 4: one has worked out, but the cole Pits so far one,
Speaker 4: it really hasn't worked out. And then when you look
Speaker 4: at the Jets tight end room, Hea, We've talked about
Speaker 4: this at nauseum a lot.
Speaker 3: This offseas like I love our tight end room.
Speaker 4: When you talk about Tyler Concord, I think Jerremy Rutgor
Speaker 4: is going to get only better. I can foresee him
Speaker 4: being the future tight end of the future for the
Speaker 4: New York Jets, Right, And then we talked about signing
Speaker 4: Kenny Yoboa back and kots that they got last year
Speaker 4: in the draft is another draft pick that has developed
Speaker 4: really well as well. So you talk about a young group,
Speaker 4: you know, with Tyler Conklin the veteran, and he's pretty
Speaker 4: young itself as well. So I really love the tight
Speaker 4: end room. Now again, anytime you can add a you know,
Speaker 4: explosive offensive weapon, it helps the quarterback, it helps the offense.
Speaker 4: But to me, tends a little rich to take a
Speaker 4: tight end in this year's draft.
Speaker 2: Let's go to defensive side of the ball. Lucky fo two.
Speaker 1: Young guy from the Arizona Cardinals who he comes on board,
Speaker 1: a former rugby player. He's got an interesting background, a
Speaker 1: big guy I don't think should be allowed to move
Speaker 1: that fast, but the Jets are very excited getting him.
Speaker 1: Dues Also Javon Kinlaw, interesting backstory, former first round pick
Speaker 1: with the Niners.
Speaker 2: Battles some injuries there early, coming.
Speaker 1: Off a year where he had his best season in
Speaker 1: the National Football League. And he also has a system
Speaker 1: familiarity and the person familiarity because his defensive coordinator was
Speaker 1: Robert slid back in twenty twenty and year one, so
Speaker 1: that's big. And then Solomon Thomas, who had a career
Speaker 1: high five sacks last year. Really good locker room guy.
Speaker 1: He also brings a monster motor on the field. I
Speaker 1: mean Sally's always he just gives it for you out
Speaker 1: there on the field, maximum capacity. What do you think
Speaker 1: about the re shaped defensive tackle room as we head
Speaker 1: to the draft. Of course Al Woods out there as
Speaker 1: a free agent. He unfortunately had the achilles injury last year,
Speaker 1: only suited up for six games with the Jets. Photo's
Speaker 1: a lot younger guy there. Quentin Jefferson lands in Cleveland.
Speaker 1: He had a career high in sacks last year six
Speaker 1: and a half. But I'm sure Sala looks at kin
Speaker 1: Law and says, hey, man, I got the upside. I
Speaker 1: know what I'm dealing with, and I can get the
Speaker 1: be'st out of him.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So we were at the Singer Bowl, I know, me
Speaker 4: and Ethan did a interview and I was saying how
Speaker 4: important it was for the just to attack the detackle
Speaker 4: position in the draft, and everybody was like, what.
Speaker 3: Are you talking about?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 4: Like, we need offensive weapons, we need offensive line. And
Speaker 4: I stated it on on X or Twitter, whatever you
Speaker 4: want to call it. EA, I said, do you know
Speaker 4: besides Quinn Williams, nobody is under contract in that defensive
Speaker 4: tackle room. I'm like, you know, somebody needs to play
Speaker 4: next to him, right, and there needs to be depth
Speaker 4: behind him, and there needs to be somebody that he
Speaker 4: can grow with. Because I actually had the interview with Ethan,
Speaker 4: I said, Brayden Fist makes a lot of sense in
Speaker 4: the third round.
Speaker 3: At the time, he was the third round.
Speaker 1: Oh, We're going to talk about more about Fisk in
Speaker 1: the future because I love him. You got me on
Speaker 1: Fist man, that guy's an animal.
Speaker 4: But to me, I don't think he makes it past
Speaker 4: the second round now, So you know, you just don't
Speaker 4: currently have a second round pick. So I love what
Speaker 4: Robert Sala and Joe d did, And a lot of
Speaker 4: people were kind of griping earlier in free agency because
Speaker 4: those were kind of some of the first signings was
Speaker 4: on the defensive side, and everybody like, here we go again,
Speaker 4: right the defensive side.
Speaker 3: This is a top five defense, championship defense. We need
Speaker 3: help on offense.
Speaker 4: But I'm like, well, for it to state a championship defense,
Speaker 4: somebody needs to play Mexic Williams. So I loved the
Speaker 4: signing of Javon Kinlan will break down, you know, foto
Speaker 4: and everybody else, But you talked about it. I think
Speaker 4: the perfect word you said was upside and that's why
Speaker 4: they signed him. He's a guy very familiar with the system,
Speaker 4: was the first round pick with the forty nine ers
Speaker 4: win Robert Solid was a decordinator. And I think people
Speaker 4: what people don't understand when Javon Kinlong got drafted to
Speaker 4: the forty nine ers and he was a high draft pick,
Speaker 4: people forget they just traded the Forest Buckler, who was
Speaker 4: a top two maybe top three detackle away from the coach.
Speaker 4: So there was a lot of pressure on this kid
Speaker 4: to come in and essentially be the Forrest Buckner, which
Speaker 4: that's a losing battle for anybody, right, That.
Speaker 3: Was an all pro d tackle that they had just lost.
Speaker 4: They couldn't pay him and Eric Armstead, so they traded
Speaker 4: him away for a first round pick and paid Eric Armstead,
Speaker 4: it said, and that's the von Keilah was stepping into
Speaker 4: those shoes.
Speaker 3: So again, there was a lot of pressure.
Speaker 4: You talked about some of the injuries, but I thought
Speaker 4: he had his best year of this past year right
Speaker 4: where all the pressure wasn't on him like it won't
Speaker 4: be for the Jets.
Speaker 3: A lot of pressure will be on Quinn Williams.
Speaker 4: He's gonna take up a lot of the double teams,
Speaker 4: and you saw him be able to get after the quarterback.
Speaker 4: You saw that athleticism, and we talked about Tyron Smith
Speaker 4: being the mountain of the man.
Speaker 3: Javon Kinlaw's amount of him man as well.
Speaker 2: That's a big always here man. He is so long.
Speaker 3: That's a big human being.
Speaker 4: So you talk about a guy that had essentially signs
Speaker 4: a one year proven deal Hea, So you're.
Speaker 3: Gonna get the best out of him because he's one
Speaker 3: to go.
Speaker 4: He's gonna want to sign a long term deal, whether
Speaker 4: it's with the Jets or somebody else in the future.
Speaker 4: So you're gonna get a highly motivated to Von Kinlaw
Speaker 4: and then again, comfortable with the defense. He's not gonna
Speaker 4: have to learn a whole new defense. Will slide in
Speaker 4: nicely with Quinn Williams. FO two was a guy he
Speaker 4: talked about Al Woods. I think to me it's a
Speaker 4: younger version of our Woods and probably a little bit
Speaker 4: more athletic.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: He's a guy that can push the pocket, but he's
Speaker 4: known for his run stopping abilities and that's what he'll
Speaker 4: do for the Jets. And then Sally, you talked about it.
Speaker 4: I don't know what it is. Well, I know what
Speaker 4: it is. It's the system. But every dtackle that comes
Speaker 4: into the system with Sala ends up having a career year.
Speaker 4: We saw Sheldon Reagans do the same thing. He went
Speaker 4: and got paid, right, Quentin Jefferson career year, he went and.
Speaker 3: Got paid other rounds.
Speaker 4: Sally, I thought it was monumental Forget to get him back,
Speaker 4: not only because of his play on the field, but
Speaker 4: what he means to that locker room and the guy
Speaker 4: he is off the field. You talk about a guy
Speaker 4: that just comes to work and does it right. Ea,
Speaker 4: that is the definition of Solomon Thomas was my rookie
Speaker 4: at the forty nine ers, my last year in the NFL.
Speaker 4: Couldn't be more prouder of the guy. Again, you talked
Speaker 4: about a high motor career high in sacks last year
Speaker 4: at five sacks. He's gonna be able to give you
Speaker 4: some nickel rushes on third down, and he's gonna be
Speaker 4: that motor on first and second down. He's gonna fly
Speaker 4: to the ball. You see it on tape when you
Speaker 4: turn it.
Speaker 1: On outstanding human meaning and being good football player. So
Speaker 1: defensive tackle. Heading into the draft, you got to feel
Speaker 1: pretty good. Maybe on Day three if you want to
Speaker 1: address it, or what do you think.
Speaker 4: I would not be surprised. Again, it all depends on
Speaker 4: what happens at pick ten. Is this a scenario where
Speaker 4: they take a guy or do they trade back and
Speaker 4: get some draft capital. Because if they do get some
Speaker 4: draft capitol, I wouldn't mind taking a filler at a
Speaker 4: second or third round pick, just because it's the same scenario. Right,
Speaker 4: everybody's on one year deals. You'll be in the same
Speaker 4: scenario next year. It would be nice going into an
Speaker 4: offseason to know that you have at least two or
Speaker 4: three viable guys at a position instead of just throwing
Speaker 4: one year deals here and there. That's how good teams
Speaker 4: get that sustained success because they're able to draft really
Speaker 4: well develop guys. They'll lose guys, get the compensatory picks back,
Speaker 4: but yet you still have some youth with veterans mixed
Speaker 4: in on your roster. So would not be surprised depending
Speaker 4: on how the board actually falls. Right, if there's a
Speaker 4: dtackle that maybe slips to the third round that was
Speaker 4: gonna be in there in the second round, it makes
Speaker 4: a lot of sense for the Jets.
Speaker 1: Shoot us straight dudes at the edge position. The Jets
Speaker 1: have Jermaine Johnson, who looks like a star in the making,
Speaker 1: huge second year. What a jump you got John Franklin Myers,
Speaker 1: who is criminally underrated in my book. Just the guy
Speaker 1: sets the edge, He's got the low pad lovel, he's tough,
Speaker 1: and he collapses the pocket. He also can shift down
Speaker 1: inside play defensive tackle for you. Will McDonald the fifteenth
Speaker 1: overall selection in the draft last year. The Jets obviously
Speaker 1: hoping for big things from him. But Bryce Hoff exits
Speaker 1: after a career year.
Speaker 2: What did you.
Speaker 1: Think about Huff's signing with the Eagles and how that
Speaker 1: impacts the Jets at the edge position? I should say
Speaker 1: right now, reports are j Davian Clowney in the house
Speaker 1: for a visit. We'll have to see if anything comes
Speaker 1: with that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll start with Brice Souff. Couldn't be more happier
Speaker 4: for the guy. You know me, anytime there's an undrafted
Speaker 4: free agent, I have affinity.
Speaker 3: For him because I know that struggle.
Speaker 4: I was that struggle and I played ten years and
Speaker 4: for him to have signed a deal to get the
Speaker 4: most guaranteed money for an undrafted for agent in history,
Speaker 4: couldn't be more happier. Yeah, you know when we were
Speaker 4: doing shows and I was up there in New York
Speaker 4: going back to twenty one, I highlighted him in John
Speaker 4: Franklin Myers before They are who they are now, right,
Speaker 4: I said, these are two guys that I think the
Speaker 4: Jets can build around, obviously with Quinn Williams as well,
Speaker 4: but I'm just talking about specifically on the edge, Like
Speaker 4: these guys can be like foundational pieces for you, and
Speaker 4: people didn't know who they were, but I saw the
Speaker 4: film in twenty and I saw glimpses and highlights. John
Speaker 4: Franklin Myers, you talked about the grittiness that he plays with, right,
Speaker 4: He's he's kind of like the tone setter on that
Speaker 4: defense in regards to doing the gritty and dirty work.
Speaker 4: He says the edge, he comes inside and rushes with
Speaker 4: Quinn Williams on third down. He has the flexibility and
Speaker 4: versus utility to play inside and outside. And when you
Speaker 4: talk about Bryce Huff, you know our guy Baldy always
Speaker 4: calls him the Ferrari right coming off the edge. That
Speaker 4: dude's get off is insane right, and his bendability and
Speaker 4: flexibility to bend the edge with a three hundred and
Speaker 4: sixty pound offensive lineman pushing on his hip and close
Speaker 4: to the quarterback is an elite trait that not many have.
Speaker 4: So like, that's the thing that's tough about free agency,
Speaker 4: and when you have a top tier defense like you have,
Speaker 4: it's hard to pay everybody, right, And it was a
Speaker 4: scenario where I knew most likely he was gonna leave
Speaker 4: a free agency. Was praying it could work out, but
Speaker 4: I knew most likely there was gonna be a team
Speaker 4: that saw what I saw right in regards of what
Speaker 4: he does on film and how he can elevate a
Speaker 4: pass rush and a defense period.
Speaker 3: And so glad and happy for him.
Speaker 4: Now, when you talk about replacing that, it's gonna be
Speaker 4: hard to replace that, right. The guy had double digit
Speaker 4: sacks last year. Now, if you're Joe Douglas and sala
Speaker 4: oping that Will McDonald takes that second year leap like
Speaker 4: Jermaine did. Jermaine Johnson. You know my infinity with Jermaine.
Speaker 4: I would have took him in the top five two
Speaker 4: years ago in that draft.
Speaker 2: You were calling him out of Mobile.
Speaker 6: You were first him top five two years ago in
Speaker 6: that draft, but he showed you why last year, you know,
Speaker 6: ended up being a a pro bow guy, went to
Speaker 6: the Pro bow last year.
Speaker 3: And it's not just what he does.
Speaker 4: In past rushing, it's the attitude he plays within the
Speaker 4: run game, like he's a physical, real physical guy, right
Speaker 4: and gets out there and he plays hard. He plays
Speaker 4: with a motor. So you would hope that Will Anderson
Speaker 4: takes that leap. There's rumors that they're supposed to be
Speaker 4: working out together, so hopefully some of the stuff that
Speaker 4: you know that Jermaine learned in his first two years
Speaker 4: ruboff on Will as well. But like you said, there
Speaker 4: is rumors that a potential number one overall pick is
Speaker 4: visiting the New York Jets coming off her career year
Speaker 4: himself when nine and a half sacks, And the thing
Speaker 4: is it kind of kind of reminds me a lot
Speaker 4: of Jermaine and the way they play.
Speaker 3: The run, right.
Speaker 4: They're both physical guys against the run, right, and they
Speaker 4: use that physicality when pass rushing. So great job by
Speaker 4: the Ravens signing him last year, and great job by
Speaker 4: him really honing in on that opportunity and maximizing it
Speaker 4: and having a career here going into free agency, but
Speaker 4: that would be a big signing. I think they just
Speaker 4: do need to add one more piece on the edge.
Speaker 1: If no Clowney, maybe they do dip into free agency
Speaker 1: and get a lower tier free agent. But could you
Speaker 1: see another edge possibly early. And don't worry Jets fans.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that Jets.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they coming after you.
Speaker 2: Jets are not taking an edge. I'm gonna say it
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 1: I will run to the city and back if the
Speaker 1: Jets taken edge in the first round.
Speaker 4: I have to because what let's say in this scenario,
Speaker 4: let's just play this game, ya scenario, the top three,
Speaker 4: the top three receivers are gone, right, say Joe alt
Speaker 4: Olufashana gone. We know that jo d has an infinity
Speaker 4: for toolice for Wagga, and he has versatility. But say
Speaker 4: you're at the number ten pick and Jared Versus or
Speaker 4: Dallas Turner are like your number five player.
Speaker 2: On them, and yet you get.
Speaker 4: A call, but it's not worth you picking it up
Speaker 4: to trade back. I just want to put hypotheticals out there.
Speaker 2: Hypotheticals so you're saying there's a chance, there's.
Speaker 3: Always a chance. People.
Speaker 4: People want to talk about best player available, but on
Speaker 4: the Jets board, Dallas Turner could be the number five
Speaker 4: player on the board. So it's like, if he falls again,
Speaker 4: I know, it would be a riot on x or Twitter,
Speaker 4: whatever you want to call it, in the streets of
Speaker 4: New Jersey.
Speaker 3: It'll be a riot in New York. But I'm just
Speaker 3: saying you.
Speaker 4: Have to think about this hypothetically because to top three
Speaker 4: receivers could be gone, and the top two off of
Speaker 4: the titles could be gone by.
Speaker 1: Ten right, Okay, I'm gonna say it's extremely unlikely.
Speaker 2: Let's go to the same again.
Speaker 3: I don't think a lot of people saw, well Will
Speaker 3: McDonald go in fifteen.
Speaker 2: Last year, So no, that's true. That's true.
Speaker 1: Okay, so we'll go back to Will McDonald's. I mean,
Speaker 1: excuse me, go back to the safety position. We're talking
Speaker 1: about that just it's in my head. Jets enter free
Speaker 1: agency with three unrestricted guys. They re signed Chuck Clark,
Speaker 1: he doesn't even hit the market, so he becomes you strong,
Speaker 1: you got your free safety, and Tony Adams. Right now,
Speaker 1: Ashton Davis is still on the market. Interesting, he was
Speaker 1: a valuable piece at six Takeaways last year also served
Speaker 1: a valuable role or had a critical role on special teams,
Speaker 1: I should say, and that Jordan white had goes back
Speaker 1: to Tampa. Your thoughts on the safety position, big pitcher
Speaker 1: as we head towards the draft.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love the Chuck Clark SI shigning him back.
Speaker 4: He was wlated to be a starter for us last year,
Speaker 4: that ends up going down. You think Tony Adams his
Speaker 4: second year as a starter would take a significant step
Speaker 4: as well. Hat Lou's and Jordan Whitehead. We saw at
Speaker 4: times him take over games, especially that Buffalo Bills game.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: The guy caught everything that was in his vicinity. Has
Speaker 4: always been a really good guy in the box tackling
Speaker 4: as well. The Ashton Davis one is interesting, right because
Speaker 4: I thought that was something that they should do business with.
Speaker 4: And again this could be Joe Douglass just letting the
Speaker 4: market come to him, but I was a little nervous.
Speaker 4: I know, Justin Simmons' name is still out there. He
Speaker 4: would be a big boost, right, but it depends on
Speaker 4: what he is going to want in free agency and
Speaker 4: what the Jets are willing to pay him as well.
Speaker 4: You're talking about a perennial all pro not just perennial
Speaker 4: pro bowler.
Speaker 1: All you think for a guy like Simmons, like right there,
Speaker 1: he's looking for multiple years.
Speaker 2: He's not going in with the one.
Speaker 4: I mean, even though he's a little older now, I
Speaker 4: think he still wants a minimum a.
Speaker 3: Two year deal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 4: And if you're him, like you've earned that right by
Speaker 4: your play. The thing is right, it comes down to
Speaker 4: positional value and the safeties that had to learn that
Speaker 4: this off season. Now, like Xavier McKinney got paid top
Speaker 4: dollar in the market, but a lot of safeties didn't.
Speaker 4: I think a lot of guys were still getting around
Speaker 4: nine or ten million dollars. McKinny was like the one
Speaker 4: caveat to that. He's right under if I believe.
Speaker 1: Interesting to Poyer went to Miami for like one year
Speaker 1: two million or something.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I think he's he's older safety now, in
Speaker 4: its mid thirty so, and ea, I know him personally.
Speaker 4: He lives down here, so it just makes a lot
Speaker 4: of sense. House in the off season don't have to
Speaker 4: have different houses, So it just made a lot of
Speaker 4: sense for him to be there, and obviously being in
Speaker 4: that division for all these years in Buffalo.
Speaker 3: They know him really well in Miami.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I was talking about the safety market like,
Speaker 4: this isn't a strong safety class either, So a little
Speaker 4: bit surprised, but not surprised because there were so many
Speaker 4: safeties all of a sudden they hit the market because
Speaker 4: so many guys got released at the last minute EA.
Speaker 4: So I think that determined the market where before when
Speaker 4: I was talking in the show, the NFL draft kind
Speaker 4: of dictates how the market does with free agency. Well,
Speaker 4: when there's an abundance of talent on the open market, right,
Speaker 4: that can dictate and hurt your market as well. So
Speaker 4: I think a lot of safety saw that affect their
Speaker 4: market this offseason because Cam Curll was another guy that
Speaker 4: I thought he was going to get up wards a
Speaker 4: ten to eleven mil and he just didn't get that money.
Speaker 4: He's a really good player as well. So I think
Speaker 4: that Ashton Davis one makes a lot of sense. I
Speaker 4: know there was talks that he maybe wants to go
Speaker 4: somewhere where he could potentially start. Well, I think there's
Speaker 4: an opportunity with the New York Jets for him to
Speaker 4: compete and potentially start. And we know for a fact
Speaker 4: that Robert SLA and also coach Aubrick like using three
Speaker 4: safety sets on defense. He could be a guy that
Speaker 4: comes in on that, and he did that for the
Speaker 4: Jets last year, So I would not be surprised if
Speaker 4: he ends up coming back to the Jets.
Speaker 3: I think it makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1: All right, we got about one minute left summation. This
Speaker 1: is our first.
Speaker 2: NFL Draft podcast.
Speaker 1: Where are the New York Jets at this point about
Speaker 1: a month prior to the twenty twenty four NFL Draft.
Speaker 4: I would say they're in a really good spot ea,
Speaker 4: because there was a lot of question marks going into
Speaker 4: the offseason and free agency, and people were wondering how
Speaker 4: many questions would be answered via free agency before heading
Speaker 4: into the draft, and.
Speaker 3: Joe Douglas answered almost all of them.
Speaker 4: Now again, will not be surprised to see them add
Speaker 4: another receiver, maybe even an offensive line because just knowing
Speaker 4: Joe Douglas and all the darts that he's thrown at
Speaker 4: the dark wheel in regard to having great depth, it's
Speaker 4: come back to even hurt him. So maybe he's consciously like,
Speaker 4: you know, I need to sign another office a lineman,
Speaker 4: even if we draft one or two, just so I
Speaker 4: have the depth, right, I know that the depth is there.
Speaker 4: You would think that they would most likely sign another
Speaker 4: safety before heading into draft, just because they don't have
Speaker 4: the abundance of picks like a lot of teams have
Speaker 4: unless they decide to trade back. But I think they're
Speaker 4: in a really good position just because instead of maybe
Speaker 4: drafting for necessary need right away, they can draft for
Speaker 4: depth and they can get best player available at number ten.
Speaker 4: But when you look at the rest of the draft,
Speaker 4: instead of like your third round pick being somebody that
Speaker 4: you need to depend on right away, it could be
Speaker 4: a depth pick now because he's done such a good
Speaker 4: job in free agency.
Speaker 3: Now, again, there's a caveat to that.
Speaker 4: I think he still needs to sign maybe one more receiver,
Speaker 4: another safety as well. Then I feel a lot more
Speaker 4: comfortable saying all right for the rest of the draft,
Speaker 4: now we can build on sustained success. Let's build and
Speaker 4: develop guys that are the best player at that position
Speaker 4: when we pick right instead of just drafting for necessary need.
Speaker 1: Enjoyed it, Lejay, and we'll save a breakfast sandwich for you.
Speaker 4: Oh please, dude, man, I don't eat ham though. Can
Speaker 4: it be like turkey bacon?
Speaker 2: Sure? We'll get that though, I like that