WEBVTT - Leger Douzable Discusses How Free Agency Has Impacted the Jets' Draft Plan (3/22)

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Official Jets Podcast, Eric Allen here at

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<v Speaker 1>One Jets Drive. I'm joined by Lejadusable. Not only today,

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<v Speaker 1>but we are going to do this a number of

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<v Speaker 1>times leading up to the draft.

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<v Speaker 2>I think four and all dues.

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<v Speaker 1>So get comfortable, brother, we got a lot of things

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about.

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<v Speaker 3>I love it.

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<v Speaker 4>EA can't wait to dive into this draft with you

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<v Speaker 4>and see how it affects the Jets. I know a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of great topics today. Just I believe had a

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<v Speaker 4>big signing on the show earlier, if I'm not mistaken.

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<v Speaker 2>Big signing. Mike Williams was just in the studio.

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<v Speaker 1>He is actually leaving One Jets Drive here a second ago.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw him walking down the stairs, so he's awfully

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<v Speaker 1>excited to be here. And in fact, just to give

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<v Speaker 1>people some background what's going on at the facility, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of Taylor Ham egg and cheese sandwiches that

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<v Speaker 1>have been delivered here today.

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<v Speaker 2>How about that?

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<v Speaker 3>Sure?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean what once NYJ Matt sent that sandwich and

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<v Speaker 4>it went viral and that was the closing factor, determining

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<v Speaker 4>factor Mike Williams signing. You knew rest of Jet Nation

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<v Speaker 4>was going to come out in droves and send nothing

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<v Speaker 4>but breakfast sandwiches to one Jets drive just to make

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<v Speaker 4>sure Mike Williams has a taste of every good Taylor

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<v Speaker 4>ham and egg and cheese sandwich.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I gotta watch my way, so I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>how many of those I can eat, dudes. But let's

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<v Speaker 2>get to that right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, we're going to be focused primarily on the draft,

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<v Speaker 1>but on today's installment of the Official Jets Podcast, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk about what the Jets have done so

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<v Speaker 1>far this off season and how that's going to impact

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Douglass and his staff as they approached the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four NFL Draft. So, Mike Williams, what did you

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<v Speaker 1>think about that edition big signing?

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<v Speaker 4>If you would have told me going into free agency

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<v Speaker 4>that it could couple of Tyren Smith in this scenario

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<v Speaker 4>as well, but that Joe d would sign Tyron Smith

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<v Speaker 4>and Mike Williams, I would have thought there would have

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<v Speaker 4>been a lot more money allocated to those two players

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<v Speaker 4>in regards to getting that deal done. So shout out

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<v Speaker 4>to Joe D. When you look at the Tyron Smith deal,

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<v Speaker 4>essentially a one year, six point five million dollar deal,

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<v Speaker 4>heavily incentive based from one of the top offensive tackles

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<v Speaker 4>went healthy on the field, and if you look at

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<v Speaker 4>Mike Williams, right, the Jets needed somebody that could take

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<v Speaker 4>pressure off Garrett Wilson, and Mike Williams is that guy

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<v Speaker 4>when the quarterback needs help. The big frame of you know,

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<v Speaker 4>six foot six, two hundred up to ten pounds. He's

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<v Speaker 4>a guy that can go up and get it and

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<v Speaker 4>a good thing about him ea and even though he's

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<v Speaker 4>had some injury issues the last couple of years, but

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<v Speaker 4>if you look at his last two years span, he's

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<v Speaker 4>only had one drop right, which plagued the Jets last year.

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<v Speaker 4>So you talk about a guy that again when you're

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<v Speaker 4>in trouble as a quarterback. He's a true ex receiver,

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<v Speaker 4>the big boy, big body receiver that can go up

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<v Speaker 4>and be physical and get the ball. And then you

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<v Speaker 4>talk about the red zone presence, right, guy that went

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<v Speaker 4>in doubt if he's one on one on the island.

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<v Speaker 4>We've seen Aaron Rodgers already do to some preseason with

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<v Speaker 4>Garrett Wilson. Checked the play and throw that fade well,

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<v Speaker 4>instead of it being a fifty to fifty jump ball

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<v Speaker 4>for Mike Williams, it's more like seventy thirty, sixty forty.

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<v Speaker 4>He's coming down with the football. So I thought this

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<v Speaker 4>was a massive get not only for the Jets offense,

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<v Speaker 4>but for the development of Garrett Wilson because we know

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<v Speaker 4>the type of player he can be in the potential

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<v Speaker 4>he has.

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<v Speaker 3>He saw a lot of double coverage.

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<v Speaker 4>It's gonna be hard to do that with a guy

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<v Speaker 4>like Mike Williams on the other side.

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<v Speaker 1>So Mike Williams in with the Chargers twice in a

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<v Speaker 1>thousand yard receiver. His yards per catch really off the

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<v Speaker 1>charts in terms of comparing him to other receivers in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL. And you're right about the contested catches. He's

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<v Speaker 1>a guy who will go up and get it one

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<v Speaker 1>on one he isn't covered. So with all that being sad,

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna have to continue rehabbing. We imagine suffered that

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<v Speaker 1>ACL injury in Week three last year year. Why is

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<v Speaker 1>he such a good compliment You touched upon it a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, but why specifically such a good compliment for

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<v Speaker 1>Garrett Wilson in terms of what the Jets can do

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<v Speaker 1>formation wise?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because with Garrett Wilson, you can line him up

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<v Speaker 4>at all three receiver positions right XX and then the slot.

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<v Speaker 4>And the way that they started using Garrett Wilson more

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<v Speaker 4>last year was they were motioning him right. When you

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<v Speaker 4>do that, you can kind of roll and see where

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<v Speaker 4>coverage is rolling to. But when you have a big

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<v Speaker 4>X receiver on the outside, that safety has to respect

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<v Speaker 4>that right. He can't just go with Garrett Wilson is at.

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<v Speaker 4>So now it's going to free up the middle of

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<v Speaker 4>the field a lot more for Garrett Wilson, which we

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<v Speaker 4>know that's where he does a lot of his damage.

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<v Speaker 3>EA.

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<v Speaker 4>We saw going back two years ago when he caught

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<v Speaker 4>that inbreaking route versus Chicago Bears and they cut back

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<v Speaker 4>against that defense for like a fifty plus yard touchdown.

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<v Speaker 4>Like that's what Garrett Well, Garrett Wilson does really well

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<v Speaker 4>and better than a lot of receivers really attack the

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<v Speaker 4>middle of the field.

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<v Speaker 3>So now when you have that big receiver on the.

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<v Speaker 4>Outside, safety has the hole just a little bit because

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<v Speaker 4>if he goes right where Garrett Wilson is right away,

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<v Speaker 4>the quarterback has that option just to throw it up

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<v Speaker 4>to that monster. Mike Williams and you talked about him

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<v Speaker 4>coming down with contested catches one of the best in

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<v Speaker 4>the NFL.

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<v Speaker 3>You also alluded to his yards per catch.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot of that is because he goes up in

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<v Speaker 4>those fifty fifty jump balls and gets forty yard or

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<v Speaker 4>fifty yard bombs down the field, because he uses his

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<v Speaker 4>body almost like a power forward in basketball, being able

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<v Speaker 4>to box out smaller corners and go high point the football.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's how I said it's not just big for

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<v Speaker 4>this offense. I think it's pivotal for Garrett Wilson's development

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<v Speaker 4>as well, because now it'll be hard to roll coverage

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<v Speaker 4>to him, because if you do that, there's gonna be

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<v Speaker 4>five or six times where Aaron Rodgers could just throw

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<v Speaker 4>the ball up to Mike Williams and again, with his

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<v Speaker 4>frame and his body size, there's a good chance he's

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<v Speaker 4>coming down with the football.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Really exceptional first down conversion rate. And the thing about

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<v Speaker 1>Williams is he's not catching the ball really close to

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<v Speaker 1>the line of scrimmage. I mean he's catching the ball

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<v Speaker 1>down down.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And you pair him up ideally with one of the

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<v Speaker 1>best vertical passers we've ever seen in the National Football

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<v Speaker 1>League and Aaron Rodgers, and you're just opening things up

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<v Speaker 1>for everybody on offense. Do you think right now, Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Douglas says free agency, I'm good at receiver at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>I signed the big Fish and Mike Williams. I have

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<v Speaker 1>Garrett Wilson al Zard still on the roster. We saw

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<v Speaker 1>some stops from Xavier Gibson and Jason Browne last year.

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<v Speaker 4>No I could see him still going out there. I

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<v Speaker 4>think Joe Douglas has done a really good job of

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<v Speaker 4>letting the market come to him and not reaching an

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<v Speaker 4>over quote unquote overpaying players. Right, we saw the receiver

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<v Speaker 4>market not take off like it has in past years,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's because the NFL Draft is laden with so

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<v Speaker 4>much talent at the receiver position.

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<v Speaker 3>Ea. I was just saying this yesterday.

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<v Speaker 4>The NFL draft kind of dictates how the NFL moves,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's even including free agency. People were saying that

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<v Speaker 4>the running back value in the market was dead right

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<v Speaker 4>because of positional value, But we saw because the NFL

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<v Speaker 4>Draft doesn't have a strong running back class, running backs

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<v Speaker 4>get top market in free agency this past year. Adversely,

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<v Speaker 4>it's been opposite for the receivers, right. Besides Calvin Ridley,

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<v Speaker 4>you can maybe even throw Mike Evans in there. The

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<v Speaker 4>receivers that are normally number twos who get paid like

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<v Speaker 4>number ones in free agency because they hit the open market.

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<v Speaker 3>That didn't happen this offseason.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's because the NFL draft receiver class is so strong.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know, those guys like Tyler Boyd that are

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<v Speaker 4>still out there, there's some good receivers that are still

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<v Speaker 4>out there where I think Joe Douglas could even take

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<v Speaker 4>a one or two year filler on some of these

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<v Speaker 4>guys just to make sure the Jets have all the

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<v Speaker 4>depth necessary just in case somebody does go down. But

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<v Speaker 4>the great thing that Joe Douglas has done is really

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<v Speaker 4>kind of fixing a lot of the holes going into

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<v Speaker 4>free agency. That way, the book opens up for them

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<v Speaker 4>at the number ten pick. You know, Joe Douglas can

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<v Speaker 4>go so many ways. And we talked about Gary Wilson

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<v Speaker 4>and I'll throw it back to you a A. But

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<v Speaker 4>to me, this helps Breeze Hall more than anybody. With

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<v Speaker 4>the Mike Williams signing. Right, we talked about safety is

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<v Speaker 4>not being able to lean towards Garrett Wilson. Well, you're

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<v Speaker 4>not gonna be able to keep that guy, the extra

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<v Speaker 4>guy in the box as well, because if you get

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<v Speaker 4>man o man coverage. We talked about Aaron Rodgers in

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<v Speaker 4>the freedom he has at the line of scrimmage. You

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<v Speaker 4>don't believe he's gonna throw that up to Mike Williams

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<v Speaker 4>if he sees him in man coverage for sure on

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<v Speaker 4>the island.

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<v Speaker 3>So that keeps that.

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<v Speaker 4>Extra safety out of the box, which will open up

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<v Speaker 4>running lanes for Breeze Hall.

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<v Speaker 3>So to me, he's the biggest winner.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, it's gonna help Garrett Wilson, but to me, Breece

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<v Speaker 4>Hall is the biggest winner with this Mike william signing.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that, Okay. So we are taping Wednesday morning.

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<v Speaker 1>There are reports right now that Ohio State standout receiver

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<v Speaker 1>Marvin Harrison is not working out at Ohio.

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<v Speaker 2>State's pro day.

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<v Speaker 1>We know he chose not to work out Indianapolis at

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<v Speaker 1>the Combine as well. I'm bringing up Harrison because prior

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<v Speaker 1>to the signing of Mike Williams NFL Draft, NFL media

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<v Speaker 1>Draft expert Daniel Jeremiah had an interesting scenario debt he

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<v Speaker 1>proposed on this podcast with Bucky Brooks.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's take a listen right.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, and the phone just rang, and it's Joe Ortiz

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<v Speaker 5>one of his best friends and Joe Douglas from the

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<v Speaker 5>New York Jets work together for twenty years, and he's

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<v Speaker 5>all in. Joe Douglas has signed thirty three year old

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<v Speaker 5>Tyron Smith Morgan Moses older tackle. On the other side,

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<v Speaker 5>they went out and got John Simpson to play guard.

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<v Speaker 5>Now you can say, maybe this is a house of

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<v Speaker 5>cards with the age of these offensive linemen, but this

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<v Speaker 5>is a forty year old quarterback. They are all in

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<v Speaker 5>to win one in the next two years, So why

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<v Speaker 5>not be bold? And do you think that they would

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<v Speaker 5>have any issues parting with next year's second round pick,

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<v Speaker 5>which would be the cost. So you go from ten

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<v Speaker 5>to five as the Jets, you trade next year's second

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<v Speaker 5>round pick. They don't have a second round pick this

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<v Speaker 5>year because that was Rogers Steele and the Jets go

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<v Speaker 5>up and they pair their wide receiver Garrett Wilson with

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<v Speaker 5>his former teammate and Marvin Harrison Junior with the fifth pillar.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, dudes, so DJ says, the Jets move up to

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<v Speaker 1>number five. The Chargers move back because they're starting under

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Harbaugh, the new coach there, and they want to

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<v Speaker 1>address the line of scrimmage and obviously they'll probably get

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<v Speaker 1>an offensive lineman at ten, but the Jets go up

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<v Speaker 1>all the way five and take Marvin Harrison. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>consider that now that Williams is here with the Green

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<v Speaker 1>and White.

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<v Speaker 4>I love my guy, DJ just have thrown out chaos

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<v Speaker 4>on a random Tuesday in the NFL during college basketball

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<v Speaker 4>season when it's March madness.

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<v Speaker 3>This is my thing. I don't know if the Chargers

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<v Speaker 3>take that deal.

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<v Speaker 4>First and foremost, you're talking about not even getting draft

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<v Speaker 4>capital for this year. It would be the following year

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<v Speaker 4>and they're moving back five spots. So I don't even

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<v Speaker 4>know if the Chargers would take that call, even though

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<v Speaker 4>Joe Douglas does have a good relationship with their GM.

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<v Speaker 4>To me, after signing Mike Williams and how deep this

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<v Speaker 4>receiver class is, I don't think it makes sense. You

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<v Speaker 4>know my affinity for Rome Adoonzay. I honestly think he's

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<v Speaker 4>going to be the best receiver when it's said and done,

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<v Speaker 4>out of the top three guys when we talk about

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<v Speaker 4>elite neighbors, Marvin Harrison Junior and Roma Doonza. So to me,

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<v Speaker 4>if you're Judge Douglas, you stay pat. I think if anything,

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<v Speaker 4>this is what Joe Douglas has done in free agency

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<v Speaker 4>has allowed this team the flexibility to take calls to

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<v Speaker 4>move potentially move back and get a second round pick

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<v Speaker 4>for this year's draft. So to me, I wouldn't consider

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<v Speaker 4>doing it because I just think as far as the

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<v Speaker 4>skills set between elite neighbors, to me, who is the

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<v Speaker 4>best stopping go receiver as far as getting up to

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<v Speaker 4>acceleration and probably the most explosive. Out of the three,

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<v Speaker 4>Marvin Harrison is probably the most complete, and to me,

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<v Speaker 4>Romaduonze is the best fifty to fifty contested guy who

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<v Speaker 4>has a pro mindset already and he's a game breaker

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<v Speaker 4>as well. I don't think you need to move up

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<v Speaker 4>and give up future draft cap, especially a second round

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<v Speaker 4>pick to move up when these guys are so close

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<v Speaker 4>and talent wise, I think Roma Dunes again will be

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<v Speaker 4>the best one. It's all said, and then you can

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<v Speaker 4>potentially get him at ten depending on where the draft falls.

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<v Speaker 3>Hopefully it falls in your favor real quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>You're taking Harrison basically off the board for the Jets,

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<v Speaker 1>which I totally get unless he was there at ten.

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<v Speaker 1>With that, with that being said, do you think he'll

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<v Speaker 1>slip it all or you think he's gonna be fine.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't think he slips at all. The crazy

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<v Speaker 4>thing is a people always put a precipice on tape.

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<v Speaker 4>So now it's time for gms and scouts and coaches

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<v Speaker 4>to stand behind that.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>If the tape is the thing that really matters, then

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<v Speaker 4>why do I need to work out.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm preparing for the NFL. Why do I need to

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<v Speaker 3>work out?

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<v Speaker 4>Like literally, as the kids say, a stand on business,

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<v Speaker 4>it's about if it's about the tape, stand on business.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of business, the Jets started this off season with

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<v Speaker 1>malta needs offensive line, tackle and guard, wide receiver, backup quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>You might even want to say running back after Brisau,

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<v Speaker 1>your Belkyle, you got Israel Obana Konda. Defensively, some questions

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<v Speaker 1>a defensive tackle as far as those guys who are

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<v Speaker 1>expiring contracts, and then safety also, Now we can I

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<v Speaker 1>think at edge into the equation. Let's go one by

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<v Speaker 1>one what Joe Douglass and his personnel staff has done

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<v Speaker 1>here in free agency. How do you think potentially it

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<v Speaker 1>impacts the Jets. In the draft, they have eight selections,

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<v Speaker 1>starting with number ten overall. Offensive line, left guard John

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<v Speaker 1>Simpson comes in from the Baltimore Ravens. Right tackle Morgan Moses,

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<v Speaker 1>who most recently, of course played with the Ravens, but

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<v Speaker 1>is a former Jet. He'll come over pencil him in

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<v Speaker 1>at right tackle, and then.

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<v Speaker 2>Big Tyrone Smith In, a time.

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<v Speaker 1>Pro bowler, a two time first team All Pro, a

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<v Speaker 1>three times second team All Pro. What do you think

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<v Speaker 1>about how Joe is gone and addressed the offensive line.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, let's let's start in the trenches. You know, that's

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<v Speaker 4>why I want to start anyway. A When you look

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<v Speaker 4>at this offensive line, I think he's done a massiful

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<v Speaker 4>job again not overshooting the market, letting the market come

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<v Speaker 4>to him John Simpson. If you look at that deal,

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<v Speaker 4>it was a lot lower than people originally thought it

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<v Speaker 4>was when the original numbers came out. And you're talking

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<v Speaker 4>about a guy that's a tone setter. I think that's

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<v Speaker 4>what the New York just needed. Somebody that eats with

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<v Speaker 4>their hands at lunch. That's what I call John Simpson.

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<v Speaker 4>He's a guy that's gonna eat with his hands. He's

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<v Speaker 4>gonna he's gonna wear that hard hat to work every day,

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<v Speaker 4>and he's gonna be the physical presence on that offensive line,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think we saw what Breist Hall tweeted when

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<v Speaker 4>you know John Simpson signed and he was very excited

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<v Speaker 4>also when Morgan Moses signed too, because Morgan Moses is

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<v Speaker 4>one of the best run blocking right tackles in all

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<v Speaker 4>of football. So now talk about getting a lot nastier

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<v Speaker 4>on the offensive line, I think some of that was

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<v Speaker 4>missing last year. You need some offensive linemen that want

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<v Speaker 4>to take the heads off of the guy and an

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<v Speaker 4>opponent in front of him, and guys that finished throughout

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<v Speaker 4>the echo of the whistle. And that's exactly what John

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<v Speaker 4>Simpson does. And you talk about Tyron Smith, we talked

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<v Speaker 4>about all the accolades that he had. The biggest thing

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<v Speaker 4>with him has always been health. Can he stay healthy.

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<v Speaker 4>He's missed thirty plus games in the last four years,

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<v Speaker 4>but just going back to last season was a second team.

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<v Speaker 3>Hall Pro guys.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'll let you know the skill set he has

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<v Speaker 4>when he's available, But that is the big question mark.

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<v Speaker 4>Can he be available? And the thing is with that

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<v Speaker 4>contract that the Jets got him to sign, right, he

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<v Speaker 4>has every motivation to be healthy because a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>it is tied to end game playing. Right, he has

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<v Speaker 4>to be on the field to hit some of those incentives.

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<v Speaker 4>So if you're Tyron Smith, you have all the motivation. Also,

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<v Speaker 4>you get to play with Aaron Rodgers and he talked

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<v Speaker 4>about that as well, a guy that's kicked his butt

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<v Speaker 4>in the playoffs a couple times. So right now you

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<v Speaker 4>get to play with one of the best quarterbacks in

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<v Speaker 4>our generation. So I think that was a motivation in

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<v Speaker 4>itself for him to come over to the just justiny

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<v Speaker 4>he saw the young offensive weapons that the Jets have

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<v Speaker 4>as well.

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<v Speaker 3>So when you look at.

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<v Speaker 4>This offensive line, I think the biggest winner is Elijah

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<v Speaker 4>Vera Tucker because there was question marks hea where was

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<v Speaker 4>he going.

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<v Speaker 3>To line up? Right? People didn't know what was gonna be,

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<v Speaker 3>left tackle, right tackle. Guard.

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<v Speaker 4>To me, he's a Pro Bowl slash All Pro type

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<v Speaker 4>of guard, but he hasn't been able to solidify himself

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<v Speaker 4>there because they've had to move him around because of injuries.

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<v Speaker 4>Now they can solidify him at the guard position where

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<v Speaker 4>he can get comfortable for the next few years and

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<v Speaker 4>hopefully for the foreseeable future.

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<v Speaker 3>And I also wonder with that moving around.

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<v Speaker 4>Did that maybe have an, I want to say, an

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<v Speaker 4>outlook or maybe have some ramifications in regards to some

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<v Speaker 4>of the injuries because again, when you're using different parts

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<v Speaker 4>of your bodies, whether you line up on the right

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<v Speaker 4>side or left side, your body gets used to one side.

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<v Speaker 4>The other side is weaker. Ea, Like when you have

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<v Speaker 4>to get thrown into the fire on the other side,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe some of that that muscle memory isn't there and

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<v Speaker 4>that can lead to maybe some injuries. It'll be good

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<v Speaker 4>for the young player, a sending player to be locked

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<v Speaker 4>into a guard spot. And we love what we saw

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<v Speaker 4>from Joe Tipman last year as a rookie. You would

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<v Speaker 4>think in his second year he's gonna send and take

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<v Speaker 4>another step solidified at the center position. So I love

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<v Speaker 4>what Joe Douglas did as far as getting really good

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<v Speaker 4>players right, not over shooting the market, because we saw

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of guards get up words to fifteen, sixteen,

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<v Speaker 4>seventeen million dollars on the open market. I think Joe

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<v Speaker 4>Douglas did a good job of letting the market come

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<v Speaker 4>to him and solidifying the offensive line with good players.

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<v Speaker 2>Could tackle still be.

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<v Speaker 1>At top of mind for the Jets early in the draft,

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<v Speaker 1>right now the first round selection, then their schedule to

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<v Speaker 1>select again of course in round three. Eight picks overall,

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<v Speaker 1>as we talked about Morgan Moses, he's got one year

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<v Speaker 1>remaining on his deal, and we know that Tyron Smith

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<v Speaker 1>comes in, he gets a one year deal with a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of incentives.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so I think it's still on the top of

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<v Speaker 4>Joe Douglas's mind. And if you know Joe d he

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<v Speaker 4>has affinity for trench play, right. And when I say

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<v Speaker 4>trench player, that's offensive line and defensive line. And you

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<v Speaker 4>say that the perfect ea. When you look at your

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<v Speaker 4>two starting tackles, they're both on one year deal. So,

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<v Speaker 4>like good teams build for the future. Now, I think

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<v Speaker 4>Carter Warren does need to be in that discussion as

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<v Speaker 4>far as development and potentially taking over one of those

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<v Speaker 4>spots in the near future. But at the end of

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<v Speaker 4>the day, you're still going to have a void at

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<v Speaker 4>the other tackle position, right, So when you look at

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<v Speaker 4>this draft at the number ten spot, I don't think

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<v Speaker 4>signing Tyron Smith and Morgan Moses absolves the Jets from

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<v Speaker 4>not taking the offensive tackle a guy that's versus that

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<v Speaker 4>can be a swing guy that could play inside and outside.

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<v Speaker 4>But it also gives a just the freedom because they

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<v Speaker 4>do they did bring in two starters that they don't

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<v Speaker 4>have to necessarily take a tackle or it gives them

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<v Speaker 4>the flexibility, like we talked about earlier EA to potentially

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<v Speaker 4>move back and get some draft capital.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of freedom, you got freedom, more freedom at receiver.

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<v Speaker 1>I would imagine now with Williams coming back and know

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<v Speaker 1>he's rehappened, and we'll find out where he's at in

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<v Speaker 1>his recovery in the coming weeks and months. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>you got more numbers here. And I've been talking to

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<v Speaker 1>you about this, dudes for weeks and probably even months

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<v Speaker 1>that this receiver class. Yeah, it's loaded its top, but

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<v Speaker 1>the depth really goes.

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<v Speaker 2>On for rounds here. This could be a historic class.

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<v Speaker 3>It really could.

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<v Speaker 4>There's gonna be guys that get taken into the late second,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe even early third, that have first round talent. And

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<v Speaker 4>I don't just say that lightly, Like there's literally guys.

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<v Speaker 4>When we look at Lad McConkie who may sneak in

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<v Speaker 4>late in the first, he's probably gonna go in the second.

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<v Speaker 4>He has first round talent. Ricky Piersol guy is probably

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<v Speaker 4>going to go in the third round from Florida. He

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<v Speaker 4>potentially can have first round talent as well. Jay von

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<v Speaker 4>Baker is another guy that's probably gonna go third, fourth

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<v Speaker 4>round who has the potential to be a really good

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<v Speaker 4>player as well at the receiver position.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's really good depth.

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<v Speaker 4>And maybe you know Joe Douglas is thinking about that

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<v Speaker 4>at that number ten spot when we talked about potentially

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<v Speaker 4>trading back, because to me, if you have one of

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<v Speaker 4>the big three and when I say the big three

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<v Speaker 4>at receiver, Roma Doomsa Elak Neighbors Marvin Harrison Junior, if

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<v Speaker 4>one of those three fall at ten, I think it

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<v Speaker 4>makes the most sense to go ahead and turn that

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<v Speaker 4>card in right away. But maybe Joe d is like,

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<v Speaker 4>this is a scenario where because this is such a

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<v Speaker 4>deep receiver class that I could maybe trade back, hopefully

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<v Speaker 4>get a high to mid second round pick, and even

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<v Speaker 4>potentially take a really good receiver there that has first

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<v Speaker 4>round talent. So you got to look at it from

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<v Speaker 4>that perspective when you look at your board and it

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<v Speaker 4>all comes down to your top one fifty, what you

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<v Speaker 4>have on your board as far as best player available.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's another good thing that Joe Douglas did. He

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<v Speaker 4>did it such a good job at free agency. He

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<v Speaker 4>could literally take the best player available pick number ten

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<v Speaker 4>instead of having to reach for a specific position.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, if there's.

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<v Speaker 4>Somebody that's there that he really likes, that maybe graded

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<v Speaker 4>out as a number seven or eight on their board,

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<v Speaker 4>they can take them now. Because he's done a good

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<v Speaker 4>job in free agency. So when you look at the

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<v Speaker 4>signing of Mike Williams again, I don't think that absolves

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<v Speaker 4>the Jets from potentially taking the first round receiver because

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<v Speaker 4>the same scenario. Right, he's on a one year deal,

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<v Speaker 4>so you're gonna have this issue again next year. But

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<v Speaker 4>if you get a receiver in the draft, whether it's

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<v Speaker 4>in the first round or you trade back and get

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<v Speaker 4>one in the second round, you have him locked in

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<v Speaker 4>with Garrett Wilson for at least the next four years.

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<v Speaker 4>So I know Joe Douglass has to be thinking about

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<v Speaker 4>that as he's going through this process.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so before we flip it over to the defensive

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<v Speaker 1>side of the ball real quickly, it's not April yet,

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<v Speaker 1>but your thoughts on Georgia tight on of brock Bauers,

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<v Speaker 1>because I know a lot of Jets fans after Williams

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<v Speaker 1>put pen to paper, said hey, let's complete this thing

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<v Speaker 1>with the offensive skill uh positions and go to him

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<v Speaker 1>where are you with Bauers at this point?

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<v Speaker 4>Tends is rich for me. Ea when you look at him,

0:22:09.440 --> 0:22:11.800
<v Speaker 4>very explosive player. You turn on that Auburn film, he

0:22:11.880 --> 0:22:15.240
<v Speaker 4>literally single handedly beat that team, especially in the second half.

0:22:16.400 --> 0:22:19.720
<v Speaker 3>A guy that is who is competitive at blocking.

0:22:19.760 --> 0:22:21.760
<v Speaker 4>He's not a great blocker, but he will fit it

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<v Speaker 4>up in there and get in front of somebody. But

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<v Speaker 4>to me, we talked about positional value earlier, I think

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<v Speaker 4>that's way too high for tight end.

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<v Speaker 3>Where did you see that?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean you saw it with I think Vernon Davison

0:22:33.000 --> 0:22:36.520
<v Speaker 4>and Pitts, Kyle Pitts. I would say that Vernon Davis

0:22:36.600 --> 0:22:39.080
<v Speaker 4>one has worked out, but the cole Pits so far one,

0:22:39.440 --> 0:22:41.439
<v Speaker 4>it really hasn't worked out. And then when you look

0:22:41.480 --> 0:22:44.000
<v Speaker 4>at the Jets tight end room, Hea, We've talked about

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<v Speaker 4>this at nauseum a lot.

0:22:45.720 --> 0:22:47.880
<v Speaker 3>This offseas like I love our tight end room.

0:22:47.960 --> 0:22:50.640
<v Speaker 4>When you talk about Tyler Concord, I think Jerremy Rutgor

0:22:50.720 --> 0:22:53.080
<v Speaker 4>is going to get only better. I can foresee him

0:22:53.119 --> 0:22:56.080
<v Speaker 4>being the future tight end of the future for the

0:22:56.119 --> 0:22:58.919
<v Speaker 4>New York Jets, Right, And then we talked about signing

0:22:59.000 --> 0:23:02.040
<v Speaker 4>Kenny Yoboa back and kots that they got last year

0:23:02.200 --> 0:23:05.440
<v Speaker 4>in the draft is another draft pick that has developed

0:23:05.440 --> 0:23:09.040
<v Speaker 4>really well as well. So you talk about a young group,

0:23:09.480 --> 0:23:12.399
<v Speaker 4>you know, with Tyler Conklin the veteran, and he's pretty

0:23:12.440 --> 0:23:15.880
<v Speaker 4>young itself as well. So I really love the tight

0:23:15.960 --> 0:23:19.000
<v Speaker 4>end room. Now again, anytime you can add a you know,

0:23:19.240 --> 0:23:22.800
<v Speaker 4>explosive offensive weapon, it helps the quarterback, it helps the offense.

0:23:23.080 --> 0:23:25.320
<v Speaker 4>But to me, tends a little rich to take a

0:23:25.320 --> 0:23:27.200
<v Speaker 4>tight end in this year's draft.

0:23:27.560 --> 0:23:30.879
<v Speaker 2>Let's go to defensive side of the ball. Lucky fo two.

0:23:32.400 --> 0:23:35.720
<v Speaker 1>Young guy from the Arizona Cardinals who he comes on board,

0:23:35.720 --> 0:23:38.800
<v Speaker 1>a former rugby player. He's got an interesting background, a

0:23:38.840 --> 0:23:42.000
<v Speaker 1>big guy I don't think should be allowed to move

0:23:42.080 --> 0:23:46.080
<v Speaker 1>that fast, but the Jets are very excited getting him.

0:23:46.200 --> 0:23:51.520
<v Speaker 1>Dues Also Javon Kinlaw, interesting backstory, former first round pick

0:23:51.880 --> 0:23:52.760
<v Speaker 1>with the Niners.

0:23:52.800 --> 0:23:56.120
<v Speaker 2>Battles some injuries there early, coming.

0:23:55.840 --> 0:23:59.320
<v Speaker 1>Off a year where he had his best season in

0:23:59.400 --> 0:24:02.439
<v Speaker 1>the National Football League. And he also has a system

0:24:02.520 --> 0:24:07.879
<v Speaker 1>familiarity and the person familiarity because his defensive coordinator was

0:24:07.960 --> 0:24:11.400
<v Speaker 1>Robert slid back in twenty twenty and year one, so

0:24:11.520 --> 0:24:14.000
<v Speaker 1>that's big. And then Solomon Thomas, who had a career

0:24:14.080 --> 0:24:17.920
<v Speaker 1>high five sacks last year. Really good locker room guy.

0:24:18.280 --> 0:24:22.520
<v Speaker 1>He also brings a monster motor on the field. I

0:24:22.520 --> 0:24:26.560
<v Speaker 1>mean Sally's always he just gives it for you out

0:24:26.560 --> 0:24:30.520
<v Speaker 1>there on the field, maximum capacity. What do you think

0:24:30.600 --> 0:24:33.880
<v Speaker 1>about the re shaped defensive tackle room as we head

0:24:33.920 --> 0:24:36.720
<v Speaker 1>to the draft. Of course Al Woods out there as

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<v Speaker 1>a free agent. He unfortunately had the achilles injury last year,

0:24:40.760 --> 0:24:44.199
<v Speaker 1>only suited up for six games with the Jets. Photo's

0:24:44.480 --> 0:24:49.280
<v Speaker 1>a lot younger guy there. Quentin Jefferson lands in Cleveland.

0:24:49.359 --> 0:24:51.400
<v Speaker 1>He had a career high in sacks last year six

0:24:51.400 --> 0:24:54.280
<v Speaker 1>and a half. But I'm sure Sala looks at kin

0:24:54.400 --> 0:24:57.919
<v Speaker 1>Law and says, hey, man, I got the upside. I

0:24:58.000 --> 0:24:59.879
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm dealing with, and I can get the

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<v Speaker 1>be'st out of him.

0:25:01.240 --> 0:25:01.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So we were at the Singer Bowl, I know, me

0:25:03.560 --> 0:25:05.960
<v Speaker 4>and Ethan did a interview and I was saying how

0:25:06.000 --> 0:25:09.080
<v Speaker 4>important it was for the just to attack the detackle

0:25:09.119 --> 0:25:11.080
<v Speaker 4>position in the draft, and everybody was like, what.

0:25:10.960 --> 0:25:12.000
<v Speaker 3>Are you talking about?

0:25:12.119 --> 0:25:12.359
<v Speaker 1>Man?

0:25:12.520 --> 0:25:15.639
<v Speaker 4>Like, we need offensive weapons, we need offensive line. And

0:25:15.800 --> 0:25:18.159
<v Speaker 4>I stated it on on X or Twitter, whatever you

0:25:18.200 --> 0:25:19.919
<v Speaker 4>want to call it. EA, I said, do you know

0:25:20.000 --> 0:25:23.440
<v Speaker 4>besides Quinn Williams, nobody is under contract in that defensive

0:25:23.480 --> 0:25:26.160
<v Speaker 4>tackle room. I'm like, you know, somebody needs to play

0:25:26.160 --> 0:25:28.000
<v Speaker 4>next to him, right, and there needs to be depth

0:25:28.080 --> 0:25:30.359
<v Speaker 4>behind him, and there needs to be somebody that he

0:25:30.400 --> 0:25:33.040
<v Speaker 4>can grow with. Because I actually had the interview with Ethan,

0:25:33.119 --> 0:25:35.840
<v Speaker 4>I said, Brayden Fist makes a lot of sense in

0:25:35.880 --> 0:25:36.480
<v Speaker 4>the third round.

0:25:36.520 --> 0:25:37.560
<v Speaker 3>At the time, he was the third round.

0:25:37.600 --> 0:25:39.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh, We're going to talk about more about Fisk in

0:25:39.520 --> 0:25:41.560
<v Speaker 1>the future because I love him. You got me on

0:25:41.880 --> 0:25:43.560
<v Speaker 1>Fist man, that guy's an animal.

0:25:43.640 --> 0:25:45.240
<v Speaker 4>But to me, I don't think he makes it past

0:25:45.240 --> 0:25:46.920
<v Speaker 4>the second round now, So you know, you just don't

0:25:46.960 --> 0:25:50.320
<v Speaker 4>currently have a second round pick. So I love what

0:25:50.560 --> 0:25:53.240
<v Speaker 4>Robert Sala and Joe d did, And a lot of

0:25:53.240 --> 0:25:56.480
<v Speaker 4>people were kind of griping earlier in free agency because

0:25:56.480 --> 0:25:58.240
<v Speaker 4>those were kind of some of the first signings was

0:25:58.280 --> 0:26:01.199
<v Speaker 4>on the defensive side, and everybody like, here we go again,

0:26:01.480 --> 0:26:02.760
<v Speaker 4>right the defensive side.

0:26:02.800 --> 0:26:05.840
<v Speaker 3>This is a top five defense, championship defense. We need

0:26:05.880 --> 0:26:06.639
<v Speaker 3>help on offense.

0:26:06.680 --> 0:26:10.200
<v Speaker 4>But I'm like, well, for it to state a championship defense,

0:26:10.560 --> 0:26:14.280
<v Speaker 4>somebody needs to play Mexic Williams. So I loved the

0:26:14.800 --> 0:26:18.160
<v Speaker 4>signing of Javon Kinlan will break down, you know, foto

0:26:18.160 --> 0:26:20.520
<v Speaker 4>and everybody else, But you talked about it. I think

0:26:20.520 --> 0:26:22.640
<v Speaker 4>the perfect word you said was upside and that's why

0:26:22.640 --> 0:26:25.479
<v Speaker 4>they signed him. He's a guy very familiar with the system,

0:26:25.600 --> 0:26:28.159
<v Speaker 4>was the first round pick with the forty nine ers

0:26:28.200 --> 0:26:31.000
<v Speaker 4>win Robert Solid was a decordinator. And I think people

0:26:31.040 --> 0:26:34.879
<v Speaker 4>what people don't understand when Javon Kinlong got drafted to

0:26:34.960 --> 0:26:36.960
<v Speaker 4>the forty nine ers and he was a high draft pick,

0:26:37.280 --> 0:26:39.760
<v Speaker 4>people forget they just traded the Forest Buckler, who was

0:26:39.840 --> 0:26:43.920
<v Speaker 4>a top two maybe top three detackle away from the coach.

0:26:43.960 --> 0:26:46.080
<v Speaker 4>So there was a lot of pressure on this kid

0:26:46.280 --> 0:26:48.800
<v Speaker 4>to come in and essentially be the Forrest Buckner, which

0:26:48.840 --> 0:26:51.160
<v Speaker 4>that's a losing battle for anybody, right, That.

0:26:51.160 --> 0:26:53.760
<v Speaker 3>Was an all pro d tackle that they had just lost.

0:26:53.760 --> 0:26:56.320
<v Speaker 4>They couldn't pay him and Eric Armstead, so they traded

0:26:56.359 --> 0:26:58.720
<v Speaker 4>him away for a first round pick and paid Eric Armstead,

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<v Speaker 4>it said, and that's the von Keilah was stepping into

0:27:01.359 --> 0:27:01.919
<v Speaker 4>those shoes.

0:27:01.960 --> 0:27:03.480
<v Speaker 3>So again, there was a lot of pressure.

0:27:03.480 --> 0:27:05.360
<v Speaker 4>You talked about some of the injuries, but I thought

0:27:05.359 --> 0:27:07.239
<v Speaker 4>he had his best year of this past year right

0:27:07.280 --> 0:27:09.920
<v Speaker 4>where all the pressure wasn't on him like it won't

0:27:09.920 --> 0:27:10.760
<v Speaker 4>be for the Jets.

0:27:10.920 --> 0:27:12.560
<v Speaker 3>A lot of pressure will be on Quinn Williams.

0:27:12.600 --> 0:27:14.600
<v Speaker 4>He's gonna take up a lot of the double teams,

0:27:15.040 --> 0:27:17.400
<v Speaker 4>and you saw him be able to get after the quarterback.

0:27:17.400 --> 0:27:20.600
<v Speaker 4>You saw that athleticism, and we talked about Tyron Smith

0:27:20.880 --> 0:27:22.080
<v Speaker 4>being the mountain of the man.

0:27:22.240 --> 0:27:24.480
<v Speaker 3>Javon Kinlaw's amount of him man as well.

0:27:24.520 --> 0:27:30.600
<v Speaker 2>That's a big always here man. He is so long.

0:27:29.320 --> 0:27:31.960
<v Speaker 3>That's a big human being.

0:27:32.040 --> 0:27:34.919
<v Speaker 4>So you talk about a guy that had essentially signs

0:27:34.920 --> 0:27:37.200
<v Speaker 4>a one year proven deal Hea, So you're.

0:27:37.080 --> 0:27:38.880
<v Speaker 3>Gonna get the best out of him because he's one

0:27:38.920 --> 0:27:39.240
<v Speaker 3>to go.

0:27:39.600 --> 0:27:42.760
<v Speaker 4>He's gonna want to sign a long term deal, whether

0:27:42.760 --> 0:27:44.880
<v Speaker 4>it's with the Jets or somebody else in the future.

0:27:44.960 --> 0:27:48.159
<v Speaker 4>So you're gonna get a highly motivated to Von Kinlaw

0:27:48.200 --> 0:27:50.800
<v Speaker 4>and then again, comfortable with the defense. He's not gonna

0:27:50.840 --> 0:27:53.080
<v Speaker 4>have to learn a whole new defense. Will slide in

0:27:53.200 --> 0:27:55.800
<v Speaker 4>nicely with Quinn Williams. FO two was a guy he

0:27:55.880 --> 0:27:57.440
<v Speaker 4>talked about Al Woods. I think to me it's a

0:27:57.480 --> 0:27:59.719
<v Speaker 4>younger version of our Woods and probably a little bit

0:27:59.760 --> 0:28:00.679
<v Speaker 4>more athletic.

0:28:00.760 --> 0:28:00.879
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:28:00.920 --> 0:28:03.080
<v Speaker 4>He's a guy that can push the pocket, but he's

0:28:03.119 --> 0:28:06.080
<v Speaker 4>known for his run stopping abilities and that's what he'll

0:28:06.080 --> 0:28:08.480
<v Speaker 4>do for the Jets. And then Sally, you talked about it.

0:28:08.520 --> 0:28:10.520
<v Speaker 4>I don't know what it is. Well, I know what

0:28:10.560 --> 0:28:14.040
<v Speaker 4>it is. It's the system. But every dtackle that comes

0:28:14.040 --> 0:28:16.600
<v Speaker 4>into the system with Sala ends up having a career year.

0:28:16.600 --> 0:28:19.000
<v Speaker 4>We saw Sheldon Reagans do the same thing. He went

0:28:19.040 --> 0:28:22.480
<v Speaker 4>and got paid, right, Quentin Jefferson career year, he went and.

0:28:22.440 --> 0:28:23.560
<v Speaker 3>Got paid other rounds.

0:28:23.720 --> 0:28:27.000
<v Speaker 4>Sally, I thought it was monumental Forget to get him back,

0:28:27.080 --> 0:28:28.720
<v Speaker 4>not only because of his play on the field, but

0:28:28.760 --> 0:28:30.960
<v Speaker 4>what he means to that locker room and the guy

0:28:31.040 --> 0:28:33.000
<v Speaker 4>he is off the field. You talk about a guy

0:28:33.359 --> 0:28:35.920
<v Speaker 4>that just comes to work and does it right. Ea,

0:28:36.440 --> 0:28:39.800
<v Speaker 4>that is the definition of Solomon Thomas was my rookie

0:28:40.200 --> 0:28:42.520
<v Speaker 4>at the forty nine ers, my last year in the NFL.

0:28:42.800 --> 0:28:45.920
<v Speaker 4>Couldn't be more prouder of the guy. Again, you talked

0:28:45.920 --> 0:28:48.040
<v Speaker 4>about a high motor career high in sacks last year

0:28:48.080 --> 0:28:49.880
<v Speaker 4>at five sacks. He's gonna be able to give you

0:28:49.880 --> 0:28:52.240
<v Speaker 4>some nickel rushes on third down, and he's gonna be

0:28:52.320 --> 0:28:54.920
<v Speaker 4>that motor on first and second down. He's gonna fly

0:28:55.000 --> 0:28:56.800
<v Speaker 4>to the ball. You see it on tape when you

0:28:56.840 --> 0:28:57.280
<v Speaker 4>turn it.

0:28:57.240 --> 0:29:01.959
<v Speaker 1>On outstanding human meaning and being good football player. So

0:29:02.040 --> 0:29:04.880
<v Speaker 1>defensive tackle. Heading into the draft, you got to feel

0:29:04.920 --> 0:29:07.840
<v Speaker 1>pretty good. Maybe on Day three if you want to

0:29:07.880 --> 0:29:09.440
<v Speaker 1>address it, or what do you think.

0:29:10.360 --> 0:29:12.760
<v Speaker 4>I would not be surprised. Again, it all depends on

0:29:12.800 --> 0:29:15.000
<v Speaker 4>what happens at pick ten. Is this a scenario where

0:29:15.000 --> 0:29:16.800
<v Speaker 4>they take a guy or do they trade back and

0:29:16.880 --> 0:29:19.560
<v Speaker 4>get some draft capital. Because if they do get some

0:29:19.640 --> 0:29:21.880
<v Speaker 4>draft capitol, I wouldn't mind taking a filler at a

0:29:21.880 --> 0:29:25.200
<v Speaker 4>second or third round pick, just because it's the same scenario. Right,

0:29:25.520 --> 0:29:27.680
<v Speaker 4>everybody's on one year deals. You'll be in the same

0:29:27.720 --> 0:29:30.440
<v Speaker 4>scenario next year. It would be nice going into an

0:29:30.480 --> 0:29:32.600
<v Speaker 4>offseason to know that you have at least two or

0:29:32.600 --> 0:29:36.000
<v Speaker 4>three viable guys at a position instead of just throwing

0:29:36.040 --> 0:29:39.000
<v Speaker 4>one year deals here and there. That's how good teams

0:29:39.360 --> 0:29:43.840
<v Speaker 4>get that sustained success because they're able to draft really

0:29:43.880 --> 0:29:48.760
<v Speaker 4>well develop guys. They'll lose guys, get the compensatory picks back,

0:29:49.040 --> 0:29:52.000
<v Speaker 4>but yet you still have some youth with veterans mixed

0:29:52.000 --> 0:29:55.280
<v Speaker 4>in on your roster. So would not be surprised depending

0:29:55.320 --> 0:29:58.120
<v Speaker 4>on how the board actually falls. Right, if there's a

0:29:58.160 --> 0:30:01.200
<v Speaker 4>dtackle that maybe slips to the third round that was

0:30:01.200 --> 0:30:03.080
<v Speaker 4>gonna be in there in the second round, it makes

0:30:03.120 --> 0:30:04.360
<v Speaker 4>a lot of sense for the Jets.

0:30:04.760 --> 0:30:08.680
<v Speaker 1>Shoot us straight dudes at the edge position. The Jets

0:30:08.680 --> 0:30:12.400
<v Speaker 1>have Jermaine Johnson, who looks like a star in the making,

0:30:12.640 --> 0:30:17.080
<v Speaker 1>huge second year. What a jump you got John Franklin Myers,

0:30:17.120 --> 0:30:21.600
<v Speaker 1>who is criminally underrated in my book. Just the guy

0:30:21.880 --> 0:30:25.120
<v Speaker 1>sets the edge, He's got the low pad lovel, he's tough,

0:30:26.360 --> 0:30:30.040
<v Speaker 1>and he collapses the pocket. He also can shift down

0:30:30.080 --> 0:30:33.720
<v Speaker 1>inside play defensive tackle for you. Will McDonald the fifteenth

0:30:33.760 --> 0:30:37.360
<v Speaker 1>overall selection in the draft last year. The Jets obviously

0:30:37.840 --> 0:30:41.600
<v Speaker 1>hoping for big things from him. But Bryce Hoff exits

0:30:41.800 --> 0:30:43.200
<v Speaker 1>after a career year.

0:30:43.880 --> 0:30:44.440
<v Speaker 2>What did you.

0:30:44.480 --> 0:30:48.320
<v Speaker 1>Think about Huff's signing with the Eagles and how that

0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:52.120
<v Speaker 1>impacts the Jets at the edge position? I should say

0:30:52.200 --> 0:30:56.160
<v Speaker 1>right now, reports are j Davian Clowney in the house

0:30:56.600 --> 0:30:58.960
<v Speaker 1>for a visit. We'll have to see if anything comes

0:30:58.960 --> 0:30:59.200
<v Speaker 1>with that.

0:30:59.720 --> 0:31:02.120
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we'll start with Brice Souff. Couldn't be more happier

0:31:02.280 --> 0:31:05.360
<v Speaker 4>for the guy. You know me, anytime there's an undrafted

0:31:05.400 --> 0:31:07.360
<v Speaker 4>free agent, I have affinity.

0:31:06.800 --> 0:31:08.840
<v Speaker 3>For him because I know that struggle.

0:31:09.120 --> 0:31:11.840
<v Speaker 4>I was that struggle and I played ten years and

0:31:12.000 --> 0:31:15.160
<v Speaker 4>for him to have signed a deal to get the

0:31:15.200 --> 0:31:18.080
<v Speaker 4>most guaranteed money for an undrafted for agent in history,

0:31:18.480 --> 0:31:20.400
<v Speaker 4>couldn't be more happier. Yeah, you know when we were

0:31:20.680 --> 0:31:22.560
<v Speaker 4>doing shows and I was up there in New York

0:31:22.640 --> 0:31:25.080
<v Speaker 4>going back to twenty one, I highlighted him in John

0:31:25.120 --> 0:31:28.400
<v Speaker 4>Franklin Myers before They are who they are now, right,

0:31:28.480 --> 0:31:30.680
<v Speaker 4>I said, these are two guys that I think the

0:31:30.760 --> 0:31:34.200
<v Speaker 4>Jets can build around, obviously with Quinn Williams as well,

0:31:34.360 --> 0:31:36.800
<v Speaker 4>but I'm just talking about specifically on the edge, Like

0:31:36.880 --> 0:31:40.160
<v Speaker 4>these guys can be like foundational pieces for you, and

0:31:40.200 --> 0:31:42.320
<v Speaker 4>people didn't know who they were, but I saw the

0:31:42.320 --> 0:31:46.040
<v Speaker 4>film in twenty and I saw glimpses and highlights. John

0:31:46.040 --> 0:31:49.400
<v Speaker 4>Franklin Myers, you talked about the grittiness that he plays with, right,

0:31:49.480 --> 0:31:51.680
<v Speaker 4>He's he's kind of like the tone setter on that

0:31:51.800 --> 0:31:54.520
<v Speaker 4>defense in regards to doing the gritty and dirty work.

0:31:54.760 --> 0:31:57.040
<v Speaker 4>He says the edge, he comes inside and rushes with

0:31:57.240 --> 0:31:59.680
<v Speaker 4>Quinn Williams on third down. He has the flexibility and

0:31:59.760 --> 0:32:02.680
<v Speaker 4>versus utility to play inside and outside. And when you

0:32:02.720 --> 0:32:05.680
<v Speaker 4>talk about Bryce Huff, you know our guy Baldy always

0:32:05.680 --> 0:32:09.360
<v Speaker 4>calls him the Ferrari right coming off the edge. That

0:32:09.480 --> 0:32:13.640
<v Speaker 4>dude's get off is insane right, and his bendability and

0:32:13.680 --> 0:32:17.120
<v Speaker 4>flexibility to bend the edge with a three hundred and

0:32:17.560 --> 0:32:20.760
<v Speaker 4>sixty pound offensive lineman pushing on his hip and close

0:32:20.840 --> 0:32:24.720
<v Speaker 4>to the quarterback is an elite trait that not many have.

0:32:25.120 --> 0:32:28.400
<v Speaker 4>So like, that's the thing that's tough about free agency,

0:32:28.920 --> 0:32:31.320
<v Speaker 4>and when you have a top tier defense like you have,

0:32:31.840 --> 0:32:34.640
<v Speaker 4>it's hard to pay everybody, right, And it was a

0:32:34.680 --> 0:32:37.640
<v Speaker 4>scenario where I knew most likely he was gonna leave

0:32:37.640 --> 0:32:39.760
<v Speaker 4>a free agency. Was praying it could work out, but

0:32:39.920 --> 0:32:42.400
<v Speaker 4>I knew most likely there was gonna be a team

0:32:42.640 --> 0:32:45.360
<v Speaker 4>that saw what I saw right in regards of what

0:32:45.400 --> 0:32:47.960
<v Speaker 4>he does on film and how he can elevate a

0:32:48.040 --> 0:32:49.800
<v Speaker 4>pass rush and a defense period.

0:32:50.160 --> 0:32:51.640
<v Speaker 3>And so glad and happy for him.

0:32:51.640 --> 0:32:54.000
<v Speaker 4>Now, when you talk about replacing that, it's gonna be

0:32:54.000 --> 0:32:56.160
<v Speaker 4>hard to replace that, right. The guy had double digit

0:32:56.200 --> 0:32:59.680
<v Speaker 4>sacks last year. Now, if you're Joe Douglas and sala

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<v Speaker 4>oping that Will McDonald takes that second year leap like

0:33:02.600 --> 0:33:06.320
<v Speaker 4>Jermaine did. Jermaine Johnson. You know my infinity with Jermaine.

0:33:06.320 --> 0:33:08.640
<v Speaker 4>I would have took him in the top five two

0:33:08.760 --> 0:33:10.480
<v Speaker 4>years ago in that draft.

0:33:10.880 --> 0:33:12.440
<v Speaker 2>You were calling him out of Mobile.

0:33:12.560 --> 0:33:17.479
<v Speaker 6>You were first him top five two years ago in

0:33:17.480 --> 0:33:20.560
<v Speaker 6>that draft, but he showed you why last year, you know,

0:33:20.640 --> 0:33:23.080
<v Speaker 6>ended up being a a pro bow guy, went to

0:33:23.120 --> 0:33:24.520
<v Speaker 6>the Pro bow last year.

0:33:24.520 --> 0:33:25.760
<v Speaker 3>And it's not just what he does.

0:33:25.520 --> 0:33:28.160
<v Speaker 4>In past rushing, it's the attitude he plays within the

0:33:28.200 --> 0:33:31.720
<v Speaker 4>run game, like he's a physical, real physical guy, right

0:33:31.760 --> 0:33:33.800
<v Speaker 4>and gets out there and he plays hard. He plays

0:33:33.920 --> 0:33:37.800
<v Speaker 4>with a motor. So you would hope that Will Anderson

0:33:37.800 --> 0:33:40.000
<v Speaker 4>takes that leap. There's rumors that they're supposed to be

0:33:40.040 --> 0:33:42.880
<v Speaker 4>working out together, so hopefully some of the stuff that

0:33:43.280 --> 0:33:45.800
<v Speaker 4>you know that Jermaine learned in his first two years

0:33:45.920 --> 0:33:49.320
<v Speaker 4>ruboff on Will as well. But like you said, there

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<v Speaker 4>is rumors that a potential number one overall pick is

0:33:53.200 --> 0:33:55.760
<v Speaker 4>visiting the New York Jets coming off her career year

0:33:55.840 --> 0:33:58.640
<v Speaker 4>himself when nine and a half sacks, And the thing

0:33:58.800 --> 0:34:00.960
<v Speaker 4>is it kind of kind of reminds me a lot

0:34:00.960 --> 0:34:02.400
<v Speaker 4>of Jermaine and the way they play.

0:34:02.280 --> 0:34:02.880
<v Speaker 3>The run, right.

0:34:02.920 --> 0:34:06.440
<v Speaker 4>They're both physical guys against the run, right, and they

0:34:06.520 --> 0:34:11.120
<v Speaker 4>use that physicality when pass rushing. So great job by

0:34:11.320 --> 0:34:13.759
<v Speaker 4>the Ravens signing him last year, and great job by

0:34:13.880 --> 0:34:18.160
<v Speaker 4>him really honing in on that opportunity and maximizing it

0:34:18.200 --> 0:34:20.480
<v Speaker 4>and having a career here going into free agency, but

0:34:20.800 --> 0:34:22.360
<v Speaker 4>that would be a big signing. I think they just

0:34:22.440 --> 0:34:24.240
<v Speaker 4>do need to add one more piece on the edge.

0:34:24.640 --> 0:34:29.480
<v Speaker 1>If no Clowney, maybe they do dip into free agency

0:34:29.520 --> 0:34:32.880
<v Speaker 1>and get a lower tier free agent. But could you

0:34:32.960 --> 0:34:38.040
<v Speaker 1>see another edge possibly early. And don't worry Jets fans.

0:34:38.080 --> 0:34:40.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that Jets.

0:34:39.840 --> 0:34:41.000
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, they coming after you.

0:34:42.000 --> 0:34:45.360
<v Speaker 2>Jets are not taking an edge. I'm gonna say it

0:34:45.480 --> 0:34:46.000
<v Speaker 2>right now.

0:34:46.040 --> 0:34:48.560
<v Speaker 1>I will run to the city and back if the

0:34:48.600 --> 0:34:50.320
<v Speaker 1>Jets taken edge in the first round.

0:34:50.840 --> 0:34:53.560
<v Speaker 4>I have to because what let's say in this scenario,

0:34:53.600 --> 0:34:56.439
<v Speaker 4>let's just play this game, ya scenario, the top three,

0:34:56.640 --> 0:35:00.640
<v Speaker 4>the top three receivers are gone, right, say Joe alt

0:35:01.040 --> 0:35:04.719
<v Speaker 4>Olufashana gone. We know that jo d has an infinity

0:35:04.760 --> 0:35:08.560
<v Speaker 4>for toolice for Wagga, and he has versatility. But say

0:35:08.840 --> 0:35:11.400
<v Speaker 4>you're at the number ten pick and Jared Versus or

0:35:11.440 --> 0:35:14.040
<v Speaker 4>Dallas Turner are like your number five player.

0:35:13.800 --> 0:35:17.920
<v Speaker 2>On them, and yet you get.

0:35:17.719 --> 0:35:20.160
<v Speaker 4>A call, but it's not worth you picking it up

0:35:20.200 --> 0:35:28.239
<v Speaker 4>to trade back. I just want to put hypotheticals out there.

0:35:28.760 --> 0:35:32.160
<v Speaker 2>Hypotheticals so you're saying there's a chance, there's.

0:35:32.000 --> 0:35:33.920
<v Speaker 3>Always a chance. People.

0:35:34.040 --> 0:35:36.440
<v Speaker 4>People want to talk about best player available, but on

0:35:36.480 --> 0:35:38.960
<v Speaker 4>the Jets board, Dallas Turner could be the number five

0:35:39.000 --> 0:35:43.040
<v Speaker 4>player on the board. So it's like, if he falls again,

0:35:43.120 --> 0:35:46.200
<v Speaker 4>I know, it would be a riot on x or Twitter,

0:35:46.280 --> 0:35:48.520
<v Speaker 4>whatever you want to call it, in the streets of

0:35:48.560 --> 0:35:49.160
<v Speaker 4>New Jersey.

0:35:49.280 --> 0:35:52.400
<v Speaker 3>It'll be a riot in New York. But I'm just

0:35:52.440 --> 0:35:52.959
<v Speaker 3>saying you.

0:35:52.880 --> 0:35:55.440
<v Speaker 4>Have to think about this hypothetically because to top three

0:35:55.480 --> 0:35:57.239
<v Speaker 4>receivers could be gone, and the top two off of

0:35:57.280 --> 0:35:58.600
<v Speaker 4>the titles could be gone by.

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<v Speaker 1>Ten right, Okay, I'm gonna say it's extremely unlikely.

0:36:02.840 --> 0:36:06.040
<v Speaker 2>Let's go to the same again.

0:36:06.120 --> 0:36:08.200
<v Speaker 3>I don't think a lot of people saw, well Will

0:36:08.280 --> 0:36:09.720
<v Speaker 3>McDonald go in fifteen.

0:36:09.400 --> 0:36:11.760
<v Speaker 2>Last year, So no, that's true. That's true.

0:36:11.920 --> 0:36:15.960
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so we'll go back to Will McDonald's. I mean,

0:36:16.280 --> 0:36:18.879
<v Speaker 1>excuse me, go back to the safety position. We're talking

0:36:18.920 --> 0:36:22.120
<v Speaker 1>about that just it's in my head. Jets enter free

0:36:22.120 --> 0:36:26.920
<v Speaker 1>agency with three unrestricted guys. They re signed Chuck Clark,

0:36:27.120 --> 0:36:31.000
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't even hit the market, so he becomes you strong,

0:36:31.120 --> 0:36:35.200
<v Speaker 1>you got your free safety, and Tony Adams. Right now,

0:36:35.840 --> 0:36:38.960
<v Speaker 1>Ashton Davis is still on the market. Interesting, he was

0:36:39.000 --> 0:36:43.200
<v Speaker 1>a valuable piece at six Takeaways last year also served

0:36:44.200 --> 0:36:47.440
<v Speaker 1>a valuable role or had a critical role on special teams,

0:36:47.440 --> 0:36:50.080
<v Speaker 1>I should say, and that Jordan white had goes back

0:36:50.120 --> 0:36:53.680
<v Speaker 1>to Tampa. Your thoughts on the safety position, big pitcher

0:36:54.040 --> 0:36:55.760
<v Speaker 1>as we head towards the draft.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I love the Chuck Clark SI shigning him back.

0:36:59.719 --> 0:37:01.680
<v Speaker 4>He was wlated to be a starter for us last year,

0:37:01.719 --> 0:37:04.520
<v Speaker 4>that ends up going down. You think Tony Adams his

0:37:04.640 --> 0:37:07.160
<v Speaker 4>second year as a starter would take a significant step

0:37:07.200 --> 0:37:09.960
<v Speaker 4>as well. Hat Lou's and Jordan Whitehead. We saw at

0:37:10.000 --> 0:37:13.200
<v Speaker 4>times him take over games, especially that Buffalo Bills game.

0:37:13.280 --> 0:37:13.480
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:37:13.760 --> 0:37:16.719
<v Speaker 4>The guy caught everything that was in his vicinity. Has

0:37:16.760 --> 0:37:19.800
<v Speaker 4>always been a really good guy in the box tackling

0:37:19.920 --> 0:37:22.799
<v Speaker 4>as well. The Ashton Davis one is interesting, right because

0:37:23.000 --> 0:37:25.520
<v Speaker 4>I thought that was something that they should do business with.

0:37:25.800 --> 0:37:27.600
<v Speaker 4>And again this could be Joe Douglass just letting the

0:37:27.600 --> 0:37:30.400
<v Speaker 4>market come to him, but I was a little nervous.

0:37:30.440 --> 0:37:32.840
<v Speaker 4>I know, Justin Simmons' name is still out there. He

0:37:32.880 --> 0:37:35.520
<v Speaker 4>would be a big boost, right, but it depends on

0:37:36.080 --> 0:37:38.520
<v Speaker 4>what he is going to want in free agency and

0:37:38.560 --> 0:37:40.759
<v Speaker 4>what the Jets are willing to pay him as well.

0:37:40.800 --> 0:37:43.240
<v Speaker 4>You're talking about a perennial all pro not just perennial

0:37:43.280 --> 0:37:43.720
<v Speaker 4>pro bowler.

0:37:44.040 --> 0:37:47.359
<v Speaker 1>All you think for a guy like Simmons, like right there,

0:37:47.800 --> 0:37:49.680
<v Speaker 1>he's looking for multiple years.

0:37:50.000 --> 0:37:51.239
<v Speaker 2>He's not going in with the one.

0:37:51.520 --> 0:37:53.040
<v Speaker 4>I mean, even though he's a little older now, I

0:37:53.040 --> 0:37:54.400
<v Speaker 4>think he still wants a minimum a.

0:37:54.440 --> 0:37:55.040
<v Speaker 3>Two year deal.

0:37:55.360 --> 0:37:56.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, yeah, for sure.

0:37:57.160 --> 0:37:59.439
<v Speaker 4>And if you're him, like you've earned that right by

0:37:59.480 --> 0:38:02.400
<v Speaker 4>your play. The thing is right, it comes down to

0:38:02.440 --> 0:38:04.600
<v Speaker 4>positional value and the safeties that had to learn that

0:38:04.920 --> 0:38:07.640
<v Speaker 4>this off season. Now, like Xavier McKinney got paid top

0:38:07.680 --> 0:38:10.359
<v Speaker 4>dollar in the market, but a lot of safeties didn't.

0:38:10.400 --> 0:38:11.919
<v Speaker 4>I think a lot of guys were still getting around

0:38:12.040 --> 0:38:15.200
<v Speaker 4>nine or ten million dollars. McKinny was like the one

0:38:15.280 --> 0:38:18.600
<v Speaker 4>caveat to that. He's right under if I believe.

0:38:20.200 --> 0:38:24.600
<v Speaker 1>Interesting to Poyer went to Miami for like one year

0:38:24.719 --> 0:38:25.719
<v Speaker 1>two million or something.

0:38:25.920 --> 0:38:28.080
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, I think he's he's older safety now, in

0:38:28.120 --> 0:38:32.000
<v Speaker 4>its mid thirty so, and ea, I know him personally.

0:38:32.000 --> 0:38:33.520
<v Speaker 4>He lives down here, so it just makes a lot

0:38:33.520 --> 0:38:36.560
<v Speaker 4>of sense. House in the off season don't have to

0:38:36.600 --> 0:38:38.560
<v Speaker 4>have different houses, So it just made a lot of

0:38:38.640 --> 0:38:41.560
<v Speaker 4>sense for him to be there, and obviously being in

0:38:41.560 --> 0:38:43.520
<v Speaker 4>that division for all these years in Buffalo.

0:38:43.560 --> 0:38:45.760
<v Speaker 3>They know him really well in Miami.

0:38:46.080 --> 0:38:48.000
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, I was talking about the safety market like,

0:38:48.080 --> 0:38:51.680
<v Speaker 4>this isn't a strong safety class either, So a little

0:38:51.719 --> 0:38:54.359
<v Speaker 4>bit surprised, but not surprised because there were so many

0:38:54.400 --> 0:38:56.439
<v Speaker 4>safeties all of a sudden they hit the market because

0:38:56.440 --> 0:38:59.160
<v Speaker 4>so many guys got released at the last minute EA.

0:38:59.280 --> 0:39:02.319
<v Speaker 4>So I think that determined the market where before when

0:39:02.320 --> 0:39:04.640
<v Speaker 4>I was talking in the show, the NFL draft kind

0:39:04.680 --> 0:39:08.080
<v Speaker 4>of dictates how the market does with free agency. Well,

0:39:08.280 --> 0:39:12.359
<v Speaker 4>when there's an abundance of talent on the open market, right,

0:39:12.760 --> 0:39:15.480
<v Speaker 4>that can dictate and hurt your market as well. So

0:39:15.800 --> 0:39:18.200
<v Speaker 4>I think a lot of safety saw that affect their

0:39:18.239 --> 0:39:21.040
<v Speaker 4>market this offseason because Cam Curll was another guy that

0:39:21.080 --> 0:39:22.360
<v Speaker 4>I thought he was going to get up wards a

0:39:22.400 --> 0:39:24.919
<v Speaker 4>ten to eleven mil and he just didn't get that money.

0:39:25.000 --> 0:39:27.000
<v Speaker 4>He's a really good player as well. So I think

0:39:27.000 --> 0:39:29.400
<v Speaker 4>that Ashton Davis one makes a lot of sense. I

0:39:29.440 --> 0:39:31.239
<v Speaker 4>know there was talks that he maybe wants to go

0:39:31.280 --> 0:39:33.399
<v Speaker 4>somewhere where he could potentially start. Well, I think there's

0:39:33.400 --> 0:39:35.600
<v Speaker 4>an opportunity with the New York Jets for him to

0:39:35.640 --> 0:39:38.239
<v Speaker 4>compete and potentially start. And we know for a fact

0:39:38.280 --> 0:39:41.560
<v Speaker 4>that Robert SLA and also coach Aubrick like using three

0:39:41.560 --> 0:39:43.960
<v Speaker 4>safety sets on defense. He could be a guy that

0:39:44.040 --> 0:39:45.719
<v Speaker 4>comes in on that, and he did that for the

0:39:45.800 --> 0:39:48.160
<v Speaker 4>Jets last year, So I would not be surprised if

0:39:48.160 --> 0:39:49.439
<v Speaker 4>he ends up coming back to the Jets.

0:39:49.480 --> 0:39:50.600
<v Speaker 3>I think it makes a lot of sense.

0:39:51.360 --> 0:39:55.120
<v Speaker 1>All right, we got about one minute left summation. This

0:39:55.160 --> 0:39:56.560
<v Speaker 1>is our first.

0:39:56.480 --> 0:39:58.200
<v Speaker 2>NFL Draft podcast.

0:39:58.640 --> 0:40:03.759
<v Speaker 1>Where are the New York Jets at this point about

0:40:04.200 --> 0:40:07.880
<v Speaker 1>a month prior to the twenty twenty four NFL Draft.

0:40:08.440 --> 0:40:10.600
<v Speaker 4>I would say they're in a really good spot ea,

0:40:10.640 --> 0:40:12.840
<v Speaker 4>because there was a lot of question marks going into

0:40:12.960 --> 0:40:16.239
<v Speaker 4>the offseason and free agency, and people were wondering how

0:40:16.280 --> 0:40:19.680
<v Speaker 4>many questions would be answered via free agency before heading

0:40:19.719 --> 0:40:20.840
<v Speaker 4>into the draft, and.

0:40:20.920 --> 0:40:22.520
<v Speaker 3>Joe Douglas answered almost all of them.

0:40:22.560 --> 0:40:24.960
<v Speaker 4>Now again, will not be surprised to see them add

0:40:25.080 --> 0:40:29.120
<v Speaker 4>another receiver, maybe even an offensive line because just knowing

0:40:29.239 --> 0:40:32.120
<v Speaker 4>Joe Douglas and all the darts that he's thrown at

0:40:32.120 --> 0:40:35.960
<v Speaker 4>the dark wheel in regard to having great depth, it's

0:40:36.000 --> 0:40:38.960
<v Speaker 4>come back to even hurt him. So maybe he's consciously like,

0:40:39.040 --> 0:40:40.600
<v Speaker 4>you know, I need to sign another office a lineman,

0:40:40.600 --> 0:40:42.840
<v Speaker 4>even if we draft one or two, just so I

0:40:42.920 --> 0:40:45.760
<v Speaker 4>have the depth, right, I know that the depth is there.

0:40:45.960 --> 0:40:48.000
<v Speaker 4>You would think that they would most likely sign another

0:40:48.040 --> 0:40:50.879
<v Speaker 4>safety before heading into draft, just because they don't have

0:40:51.080 --> 0:40:53.279
<v Speaker 4>the abundance of picks like a lot of teams have

0:40:53.640 --> 0:40:56.319
<v Speaker 4>unless they decide to trade back. But I think they're

0:40:56.360 --> 0:40:59.239
<v Speaker 4>in a really good position just because instead of maybe

0:40:59.360 --> 0:41:02.880
<v Speaker 4>drafting for necessary need right away, they can draft for

0:41:03.040 --> 0:41:05.960
<v Speaker 4>depth and they can get best player available at number ten.

0:41:06.040 --> 0:41:07.680
<v Speaker 4>But when you look at the rest of the draft,

0:41:07.880 --> 0:41:10.000
<v Speaker 4>instead of like your third round pick being somebody that

0:41:10.040 --> 0:41:12.319
<v Speaker 4>you need to depend on right away, it could be

0:41:12.400 --> 0:41:14.440
<v Speaker 4>a depth pick now because he's done such a good

0:41:14.520 --> 0:41:16.000
<v Speaker 4>job in free agency.

0:41:16.040 --> 0:41:17.640
<v Speaker 3>Now, again, there's a caveat to that.

0:41:17.680 --> 0:41:19.760
<v Speaker 4>I think he still needs to sign maybe one more receiver,

0:41:20.239 --> 0:41:23.359
<v Speaker 4>another safety as well. Then I feel a lot more

0:41:23.400 --> 0:41:25.280
<v Speaker 4>comfortable saying all right for the rest of the draft,

0:41:25.640 --> 0:41:28.680
<v Speaker 4>now we can build on sustained success. Let's build and

0:41:28.719 --> 0:41:32.600
<v Speaker 4>develop guys that are the best player at that position

0:41:32.920 --> 0:41:36.560
<v Speaker 4>when we pick right instead of just drafting for necessary need.

0:41:38.000 --> 0:41:41.360
<v Speaker 1>Enjoyed it, Lejay, and we'll save a breakfast sandwich for you.

0:41:41.719 --> 0:41:44.160
<v Speaker 4>Oh please, dude, man, I don't eat ham though. Can

0:41:44.200 --> 0:41:45.280
<v Speaker 4>it be like turkey bacon?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure? We'll get that though, I like that