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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Official Jets Podcast, Eric Allen here at

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Speaker 1: One Jets Drive. I'm joined by Lejadusable. Not only today,

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Speaker 1: but we are going to do this a number of

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Speaker 1: times leading up to the draft.

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Speaker 2: I think four and all dues.

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Speaker 1: So get comfortable, brother, we got a lot of things

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 4: EA can't wait to dive into this draft with you

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Speaker 4: and see how it affects the Jets. I know a

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Speaker 4: lot of great topics today. Just I believe had a

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Speaker 4: big signing on the show earlier, if I'm not mistaken.

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Speaker 2: Big signing. Mike Williams was just in the studio.

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Speaker 1: He is actually leaving One Jets Drive here a second ago.

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Speaker 1: I saw him walking down the stairs, so he's awfully

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Speaker 1: excited to be here. And in fact, just to give

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Speaker 1: people some background what's going on at the facility, there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of Taylor Ham egg and cheese sandwiches that

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Speaker 1: have been delivered here today.

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Speaker 2: How about that?

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Speaker 3: Sure?

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Speaker 4: I mean what once NYJ Matt sent that sandwich and

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Speaker 4: it went viral and that was the closing factor, determining

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Speaker 4: factor Mike Williams signing. You knew rest of Jet Nation

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Speaker 4: was going to come out in droves and send nothing

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Speaker 4: but breakfast sandwiches to one Jets drive just to make

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Speaker 4: sure Mike Williams has a taste of every good Taylor

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Speaker 4: ham and egg and cheese sandwich.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta watch my way, so I don't know

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Speaker 2: how many of those I can eat, dudes. But let's

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Speaker 2: get to that right now.

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Speaker 1: Again, we're going to be focused primarily on the draft,

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Speaker 1: but on today's installment of the Official Jets Podcast, I

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Speaker 1: want to talk about what the Jets have done so

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Speaker 1: far this off season and how that's going to impact

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Speaker 1: Joe Douglass and his staff as they approached the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty four NFL Draft. So, Mike Williams, what did you

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Speaker 1: think about that edition big signing?

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Speaker 4: If you would have told me going into free agency

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Speaker 4: in regards to getting that deal done. So shout out

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Speaker 4: to Joe D. When you look at the Tyron Smith deal,

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Speaker 4: went healthy on the field, and if you look at

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Speaker 4: Mike Williams, right, the Jets needed somebody that could take

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Speaker 4: pressure off Garrett Wilson, and Mike Williams is that guy

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Speaker 4: when the quarterback needs help. The big frame of you know,

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Speaker 4: only had one drop right, which plagued the Jets last year.

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Speaker 4: So you talk about a guy that again when you're

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Speaker 4: talk about the red zone presence, right, guy that went

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Speaker 4: We've seen Aaron Rodgers already do to some preseason with

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Speaker 4: instead of it being a fifty to fifty jump ball

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Speaker 4: He's coming down with the football. So I thought this

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Speaker 4: the type of player he can be in the potential

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Speaker 3: He saw a lot of double coverage.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be hard to do that with a guy

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Speaker 1: So Mike Williams in with the Chargers twice in a

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Speaker 4: So now it's going to free up the middle of

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Speaker 3: EA.

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Speaker 4: We saw going back two years ago when he caught

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Speaker 4: Like that's what Garrett Well, Garrett Wilson does really well

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Speaker 3: So now when you have that big receiver on the.

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Speaker 4: Outside, safety has the hole just a little bit because

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Speaker 4: to that monster. Mike Williams and you talked about him

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Speaker 3: You also alluded to his yards per catch.

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Speaker 4: A lot of that is because he goes up in

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Speaker 4: So that's how I said it's not just big for

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Really exceptional first down conversion rate. And the thing about

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Speaker 1: And you pair him up ideally with one of the

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Speaker 4: No I could see him still going out there. I

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Speaker 4: think Joe Douglas has done a really good job of

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Speaker 4: and that's because the NFL Draft is laden with so

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Speaker 3: Ea. I was just saying this yesterday.

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Speaker 4: get top market in free agency this past year. Adversely,

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Speaker 3: That didn't happen this offseason.

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Speaker 4: And it's because the NFL draft receiver class is so strong.

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Speaker 4: So you know, those guys like Tyler Boyd that are

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Speaker 4: the great thing that Joe Douglas has done is really

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Speaker 4: go so many ways. And we talked about Gary Wilson

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Speaker 4: to me, this helps Breeze Hall more than anybody. With

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Speaker 3: So that keeps that.

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Speaker 3: So to me, he's the biggest winner.

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Speaker 4: Yes, it's gonna help Garrett Wilson, but to me, Breece

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Speaker 1: I like that, Okay. So we are taping Wednesday morning.

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Speaker 1: There are reports right now that Ohio State standout receiver

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Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison is not working out at Ohio.

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Speaker 2: State's pro day.

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Speaker 1: We know he chose not to work out Indianapolis at

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Speaker 1: Draft expert Daniel Jeremiah had an interesting scenario debt he

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Speaker 1: proposed on this podcast with Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 2: Let's take a listen right.

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Speaker 5: Now, and the phone just rang, and it's Joe Ortiz

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Speaker 5: one of his best friends and Joe Douglas from the

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Speaker 5: New York Jets work together for twenty years, and he's

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Speaker 5: all in. Joe Douglas has signed thirty three year old

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Speaker 5: Tyron Smith Morgan Moses older tackle. On the other side,

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Speaker 5: Now you can say, maybe this is a house of

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Speaker 5: have any issues parting with next year's second round pick,

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Speaker 5: which would be the cost. So you go from ten

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Speaker 5: up and they pair their wide receiver Garrett Wilson with

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Speaker 1: Okay, dudes, so DJ says, the Jets move up to

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Speaker 3: This is my thing. I don't know if the Chargers

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Speaker 4: First and foremost, you're talking about not even getting draft

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Speaker 3: Hopefully it falls in your favor real quickly.

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Speaker 1: You're taking Harrison basically off the board for the Jets,

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: If the tape is the thing that really matters, then

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Speaker 3: I'm preparing for the NFL. Why do I need to

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Speaker 4: Like literally, as the kids say, a stand on business,

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Speaker 4: it's about if it's about the tape, stand on business.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of business, the Jets started this off season with

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Speaker 2: Big Tyrone Smith In, a time.

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Speaker 4: to him John Simpson. If you look at that deal,

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Speaker 4: He's a guy that's gonna eat with his hands. He's

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Speaker 3: So when you look at.

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Speaker 4: To me, he's a Pro Bowl slash All Pro type

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Speaker 2: Could tackle still be.

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Speaker 1: At top of mind for the Jets early in the draft,

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Speaker 1: as we talked about Morgan Moses, he's got one year

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Speaker 1: Speaking of freedom, you got freedom, more freedom at receiver.

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Speaker 2: On for rounds here. This could be a historic class.

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Speaker 3: It really could.

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Speaker 4: There's gonna be guys that get taken into the late second,

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Speaker 4: instead of having to reach for a specific position.

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00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:04,360
Speaker 3: Right, if there's.

444
00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,320
Speaker 4: Somebody that's there that he really likes, that maybe graded

445
00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,480
Speaker 4: out as a number seven or eight on their board,

446
00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,920
Speaker 4: they can take them now. Because he's done a good

447
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,800
Speaker 4: job in free agency. So when you look at the

448
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,680
Speaker 4: signing of Mike Williams again, I don't think that absolves

449
00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,680
Speaker 4: the Jets from potentially taking the first round receiver because

450
00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,880
Speaker 4: the same scenario. Right, he's on a one year deal,

451
00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,399
Speaker 4: so you're gonna have this issue again next year. But

452
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,399
Speaker 4: if you get a receiver in the draft, whether it's

453
00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,320
Speaker 4: in the first round or you trade back and get

454
00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,240
Speaker 4: one in the second round, you have him locked in

455
00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,280
Speaker 4: with Garrett Wilson for at least the next four years.

456
00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,359
Speaker 4: So I know Joe Douglass has to be thinking about

457
00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,360
Speaker 4: that as he's going through this process.

458
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,560
Speaker 1: Okay, so before we flip it over to the defensive

459
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 1: side of the ball real quickly, it's not April yet,

460
00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 1: but your thoughts on Georgia tight on of brock Bauers,

461
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:55,040
Speaker 1: because I know a lot of Jets fans after Williams

462
00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 1: put pen to paper, said hey, let's complete this thing

463
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 1: with the offensive skill uh positions and go to him

464
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,120
Speaker 1: where are you with Bauers at this point?

465
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,360
Speaker 4: Tends is rich for me. Ea when you look at him,

466
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 4: very explosive player. You turn on that Auburn film, he

467
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 4: literally single handedly beat that team, especially in the second half.

468
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 3: A guy that is who is competitive at blocking.

469
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:21,760
Speaker 4: He's not a great blocker, but he will fit it

470
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,159
Speaker 4: up in there and get in front of somebody. But

471
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 4: to me, we talked about positional value earlier, I think

472
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,199
Speaker 4: that's way too high for tight end.

473
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:30,440
Speaker 3: Where did you see that?

474
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,880
Speaker 4: I mean you saw it with I think Vernon Davison

475
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 4: and Pitts, Kyle Pitts. I would say that Vernon Davis

476
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 4: one has worked out, but the cole Pits so far one,

477
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,439
Speaker 4: it really hasn't worked out. And then when you look

478
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 4: at the Jets tight end room, Hea, We've talked about

479
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:45,680
Speaker 4: this at nauseum a lot.

480
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,880
Speaker 3: This offseas like I love our tight end room.

481
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,640
Speaker 4: When you talk about Tyler Concord, I think Jerremy Rutgor

482
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 4: is going to get only better. I can foresee him

483
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,080
Speaker 4: being the future tight end of the future for the

484
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,919
Speaker 4: New York Jets, Right, And then we talked about signing

485
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,040
Speaker 4: Kenny Yoboa back and kots that they got last year

486
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 4: in the draft is another draft pick that has developed

487
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 4: really well as well. So you talk about a young group,

488
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,399
Speaker 4: you know, with Tyler Conklin the veteran, and he's pretty

489
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,880
Speaker 4: young itself as well. So I really love the tight

490
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 4: end room. Now again, anytime you can add a you know,

491
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 4: explosive offensive weapon, it helps the quarterback, it helps the offense.

492
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 4: But to me, tends a little rich to take a

493
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,200
Speaker 4: tight end in this year's draft.

494
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Speaker 2: Let's go to defensive side of the ball. Lucky fo two.

495
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 1: Young guy from the Arizona Cardinals who he comes on board,

496
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 1: a former rugby player. He's got an interesting background, a

497
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 1: big guy I don't think should be allowed to move

498
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 1: that fast, but the Jets are very excited getting him.

499
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 1: Dues Also Javon Kinlaw, interesting backstory, former first round pick

500
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 1: with the Niners.

501
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:56,120
Speaker 2: Battles some injuries there early, coming.

502
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 1: Off a year where he had his best season in

503
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,439
Speaker 1: the National Football League. And he also has a system

504
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:07,879
Speaker 1: familiarity and the person familiarity because his defensive coordinator was

505
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,400
Speaker 1: Robert slid back in twenty twenty and year one, so

506
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 1: that's big. And then Solomon Thomas, who had a career

507
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 1: high five sacks last year. Really good locker room guy.

508
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 1: He also brings a monster motor on the field. I

509
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 1: mean Sally's always he just gives it for you out

510
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 1: there on the field, maximum capacity. What do you think

511
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,880
Speaker 1: about the re shaped defensive tackle room as we head

512
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 1: to the draft. Of course Al Woods out there as

513
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:40,640
Speaker 1: a free agent. He unfortunately had the achilles injury last year,

514
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:44,199
Speaker 1: only suited up for six games with the Jets. Photo's

515
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 1: a lot younger guy there. Quentin Jefferson lands in Cleveland.

516
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,400
Speaker 1: He had a career high in sacks last year six

517
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 1: and a half. But I'm sure Sala looks at kin

518
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,919
Speaker 1: Law and says, hey, man, I got the upside. I

519
00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 1: know what I'm dealing with, and I can get the

520
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 1: be'st out of him.

521
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

522
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 4: So we were at the Singer Bowl, I know, me

523
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 4: and Ethan did a interview and I was saying how

524
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 4: important it was for the just to attack the detackle

525
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 4: position in the draft, and everybody was like, what.

526
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 3: Are you talking about?

527
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 1: Man?

528
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 4: Like, we need offensive weapons, we need offensive line. And

529
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,159
Speaker 4: I stated it on on X or Twitter, whatever you

530
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:19,919
Speaker 4: want to call it. EA, I said, do you know

531
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 4: besides Quinn Williams, nobody is under contract in that defensive

532
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 4: tackle room. I'm like, you know, somebody needs to play

533
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 4: next to him, right, and there needs to be depth

534
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 4: behind him, and there needs to be somebody that he

535
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 4: can grow with. Because I actually had the interview with Ethan,

536
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 4: I said, Brayden Fist makes a lot of sense in

537
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 4: the third round.

538
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 3: At the time, he was the third round.

539
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 1: Oh, We're going to talk about more about Fisk in

540
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 1: the future because I love him. You got me on

541
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 1: Fist man, that guy's an animal.

542
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 4: But to me, I don't think he makes it past

543
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:46,920
Speaker 4: the second round now, So you know, you just don't

544
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 4: currently have a second round pick. So I love what

545
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 4: Robert Sala and Joe d did, And a lot of

546
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 4: people were kind of griping earlier in free agency because

547
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 4: those were kind of some of the first signings was

548
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,199
Speaker 4: on the defensive side, and everybody like, here we go again,

549
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 4: right the defensive side.

550
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 3: This is a top five defense, championship defense. We need

551
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 3: help on offense.

552
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 4: But I'm like, well, for it to state a championship defense,

553
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 4: somebody needs to play Mexic Williams. So I loved the

554
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 4: signing of Javon Kinlan will break down, you know, foto

555
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 4: and everybody else, But you talked about it. I think

556
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,640
Speaker 4: the perfect word you said was upside and that's why

557
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,479
Speaker 4: they signed him. He's a guy very familiar with the system,

558
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 4: was the first round pick with the forty nine ers

559
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 4: win Robert Solid was a decordinator. And I think people

560
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 4: what people don't understand when Javon Kinlong got drafted to

561
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 4: the forty nine ers and he was a high draft pick,

562
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 4: people forget they just traded the Forest Buckler, who was

563
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 4: a top two maybe top three detackle away from the coach.

564
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 4: So there was a lot of pressure on this kid

565
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 4: to come in and essentially be the Forrest Buckner, which

566
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 4: that's a losing battle for anybody, right, That.

567
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 3: Was an all pro d tackle that they had just lost.

568
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 4: They couldn't pay him and Eric Armstead, so they traded

569
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 4: him away for a first round pick and paid Eric Armstead,

570
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 4: it said, and that's the von Keilah was stepping into

571
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:01,919
Speaker 4: those shoes.

572
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 3: So again, there was a lot of pressure.

573
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,360
Speaker 4: You talked about some of the injuries, but I thought

574
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,239
Speaker 4: he had his best year of this past year right

575
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 4: where all the pressure wasn't on him like it won't

576
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 4: be for the Jets.

577
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 3: A lot of pressure will be on Quinn Williams.

578
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 4: He's gonna take up a lot of the double teams,

579
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 4: and you saw him be able to get after the quarterback.

580
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 4: You saw that athleticism, and we talked about Tyron Smith

581
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 4: being the mountain of the man.

582
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 3: Javon Kinlaw's amount of him man as well.

583
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 2: That's a big always here man. He is so long.

584
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 3: That's a big human being.

585
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,919
Speaker 4: So you talk about a guy that had essentially signs

586
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 4: a one year proven deal Hea, So you're.

587
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:38,880
Speaker 3: Gonna get the best out of him because he's one

588
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 3: to go.

589
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 4: He's gonna want to sign a long term deal, whether

590
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:44,880
Speaker 4: it's with the Jets or somebody else in the future.

591
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 4: So you're gonna get a highly motivated to Von Kinlaw

592
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 4: and then again, comfortable with the defense. He's not gonna

593
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 4: have to learn a whole new defense. Will slide in

594
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 4: nicely with Quinn Williams. FO two was a guy he

595
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 4: talked about Al Woods. I think to me it's a

596
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,719
Speaker 4: younger version of our Woods and probably a little bit

597
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:00,679
Speaker 4: more athletic.

598
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 3: Right.

599
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 4: He's a guy that can push the pocket, but he's

600
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 4: known for his run stopping abilities and that's what he'll

601
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 4: do for the Jets. And then Sally, you talked about it.

602
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 4: I don't know what it is. Well, I know what

603
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 4: it is. It's the system. But every dtackle that comes

604
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 4: into the system with Sala ends up having a career year.

605
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 4: We saw Sheldon Reagans do the same thing. He went

606
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 4: and got paid, right, Quentin Jefferson career year, he went and.

607
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 3: Got paid other rounds.

608
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 4: Sally, I thought it was monumental Forget to get him back,

609
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 4: not only because of his play on the field, but

610
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 4: what he means to that locker room and the guy

611
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 4: he is off the field. You talk about a guy

612
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 4: that just comes to work and does it right. Ea,

613
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 4: that is the definition of Solomon Thomas was my rookie

614
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 4: at the forty nine ers, my last year in the NFL.

615
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 4: Couldn't be more prouder of the guy. Again, you talked

616
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 4: about a high motor career high in sacks last year

617
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 4: at five sacks. He's gonna be able to give you

618
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 4: some nickel rushes on third down, and he's gonna be

619
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 4: that motor on first and second down. He's gonna fly

620
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 4: to the ball. You see it on tape when you

621
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 4: turn it.

622
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:01,959
Speaker 1: On outstanding human meaning and being good football player. So

623
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: defensive tackle. Heading into the draft, you got to feel

624
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 1: pretty good. Maybe on Day three if you want to

625
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: address it, or what do you think.

626
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 4: I would not be surprised. Again, it all depends on

627
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 4: what happens at pick ten. Is this a scenario where

628
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 4: they take a guy or do they trade back and

629
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 4: get some draft capital. Because if they do get some

630
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 4: draft capitol, I wouldn't mind taking a filler at a

631
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 4: second or third round pick, just because it's the same scenario. Right,

632
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 4: everybody's on one year deals. You'll be in the same

633
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 4: scenario next year. It would be nice going into an

634
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 4: offseason to know that you have at least two or

635
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 4: three viable guys at a position instead of just throwing

636
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 4: one year deals here and there. That's how good teams

637
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 4: get that sustained success because they're able to draft really

638
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 4: well develop guys. They'll lose guys, get the compensatory picks back,

639
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 4: but yet you still have some youth with veterans mixed

640
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 4: in on your roster. So would not be surprised depending

641
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 4: on how the board actually falls. Right, if there's a

642
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 4: dtackle that maybe slips to the third round that was

643
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 4: gonna be in there in the second round, it makes

644
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 4: a lot of sense for the Jets.

645
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: Shoot us straight dudes at the edge position. The Jets

646
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: have Jermaine Johnson, who looks like a star in the making,

647
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: huge second year. What a jump you got John Franklin Myers,

648
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: who is criminally underrated in my book. Just the guy

649
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: sets the edge, He's got the low pad lovel, he's tough,

650
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 1: and he collapses the pocket. He also can shift down

651
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 1: inside play defensive tackle for you. Will McDonald the fifteenth

652
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: overall selection in the draft last year. The Jets obviously

653
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 1: hoping for big things from him. But Bryce Hoff exits

654
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: after a career year.

655
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 2: What did you.

656
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: Think about Huff's signing with the Eagles and how that

657
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 1: impacts the Jets at the edge position? I should say

658
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 1: right now, reports are j Davian Clowney in the house

659
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 1: for a visit. We'll have to see if anything comes

660
00:30:58,960 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: with that.

661
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Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll start with Brice Souff. Couldn't be more happier

662
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 4: for the guy. You know me, anytime there's an undrafted

663
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 4: free agent, I have affinity.

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Speaker 3: For him because I know that struggle.

665
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 4: I was that struggle and I played ten years and

666
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 4: for him to have signed a deal to get the

667
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 4: most guaranteed money for an undrafted for agent in history,

668
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 4: couldn't be more happier. Yeah, you know when we were

669
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 4: doing shows and I was up there in New York

670
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 4: going back to twenty one, I highlighted him in John

671
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 4: Franklin Myers before They are who they are now, right,

672
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 4: I said, these are two guys that I think the

673
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 4: Jets can build around, obviously with Quinn Williams as well,

674
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 4: but I'm just talking about specifically on the edge, Like

675
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 4: these guys can be like foundational pieces for you, and

676
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 4: people didn't know who they were, but I saw the

677
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 4: film in twenty and I saw glimpses and highlights. John

678
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 4: Franklin Myers, you talked about the grittiness that he plays with, right,

679
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 4: He's he's kind of like the tone setter on that

680
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 4: defense in regards to doing the gritty and dirty work.

681
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 4: He says the edge, he comes inside and rushes with

682
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 4: Quinn Williams on third down. He has the flexibility and

683
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 4: versus utility to play inside and outside. And when you

684
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 4: talk about Bryce Huff, you know our guy Baldy always

685
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 4: calls him the Ferrari right coming off the edge. That

686
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 4: dude's get off is insane right, and his bendability and

687
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 4: flexibility to bend the edge with a three hundred and

688
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 4: sixty pound offensive lineman pushing on his hip and close

689
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 4: to the quarterback is an elite trait that not many have.

690
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 4: So like, that's the thing that's tough about free agency,

691
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 4: and when you have a top tier defense like you have,

692
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 4: it's hard to pay everybody, right, And it was a

693
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 4: scenario where I knew most likely he was gonna leave

694
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 4: a free agency. Was praying it could work out, but

695
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 4: I knew most likely there was gonna be a team

696
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 4: that saw what I saw right in regards of what

697
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 4: he does on film and how he can elevate a

698
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 4: pass rush and a defense period.

699
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 3: And so glad and happy for him.

700
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Speaker 4: Now, when you talk about replacing that, it's gonna be

701
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 4: hard to replace that, right. The guy had double digit

702
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 4: sacks last year. Now, if you're Joe Douglas and sala

703
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 4: oping that Will McDonald takes that second year leap like

704
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 4: Jermaine did. Jermaine Johnson. You know my infinity with Jermaine.

705
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 4: I would have took him in the top five two

706
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 4: years ago in that draft.

707
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 2: You were calling him out of Mobile.

708
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:17,479
Speaker 6: You were first him top five two years ago in

709
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 6: that draft, but he showed you why last year, you know,

710
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 6: ended up being a a pro bow guy, went to

711
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 6: the Pro bow last year.

712
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Speaker 3: And it's not just what he does.

713
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 4: In past rushing, it's the attitude he plays within the

714
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 4: run game, like he's a physical, real physical guy, right

715
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 4: and gets out there and he plays hard. He plays

716
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 4: with a motor. So you would hope that Will Anderson

717
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 4: takes that leap. There's rumors that they're supposed to be

718
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 4: working out together, so hopefully some of the stuff that

719
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Speaker 4: you know that Jermaine learned in his first two years

720
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 4: ruboff on Will as well. But like you said, there

721
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 4: is rumors that a potential number one overall pick is

722
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Speaker 4: visiting the New York Jets coming off her career year

723
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 4: himself when nine and a half sacks, And the thing

724
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Speaker 4: is it kind of kind of reminds me a lot

725
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Speaker 4: of Jermaine and the way they play.

726
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 3: The run, right.

727
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 4: They're both physical guys against the run, right, and they

728
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 4: use that physicality when pass rushing. So great job by

729
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 4: the Ravens signing him last year, and great job by

730
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 4: him really honing in on that opportunity and maximizing it

731
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 4: and having a career here going into free agency, but

732
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 4: that would be a big signing. I think they just

733
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,240
Speaker 4: do need to add one more piece on the edge.

734
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Speaker 1: If no Clowney, maybe they do dip into free agency

735
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Speaker 1: and get a lower tier free agent. But could you

736
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Speaker 1: see another edge possibly early. And don't worry Jets fans.

737
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that Jets.

738
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they coming after you.

739
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Speaker 2: Jets are not taking an edge. I'm gonna say it

740
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Speaker 2: right now.

741
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: I will run to the city and back if the

742
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,320
Speaker 1: Jets taken edge in the first round.

743
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 4: I have to because what let's say in this scenario,

744
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,439
Speaker 4: let's just play this game, ya scenario, the top three,

745
00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 4: the top three receivers are gone, right, say Joe alt

746
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 4: Olufashana gone. We know that jo d has an infinity

747
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 4: for toolice for Wagga, and he has versatility. But say

748
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 4: you're at the number ten pick and Jared Versus or

749
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 4: Dallas Turner are like your number five player.

750
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 2: On them, and yet you get.

751
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 4: A call, but it's not worth you picking it up

752
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 4: to trade back. I just want to put hypotheticals out there.

753
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 2: Hypotheticals so you're saying there's a chance, there's.

754
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 3: Always a chance. People.

755
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 4: People want to talk about best player available, but on

756
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 4: the Jets board, Dallas Turner could be the number five

757
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 4: player on the board. So it's like, if he falls again,

758
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 4: I know, it would be a riot on x or Twitter,

759
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 4: whatever you want to call it, in the streets of

760
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Speaker 4: New Jersey.

761
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 3: It'll be a riot in New York. But I'm just

762
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:52,959
Speaker 3: saying you.

763
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 4: Have to think about this hypothetically because to top three

764
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 4: receivers could be gone, and the top two off of

765
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 4: the titles could be gone by.

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Speaker 1: Ten right, Okay, I'm gonna say it's extremely unlikely.

767
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 2: Let's go to the same again.

768
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Speaker 3: I don't think a lot of people saw, well Will

769
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:09,720
Speaker 3: McDonald go in fifteen.

770
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Speaker 2: Last year, So no, that's true. That's true.

771
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 1: Okay, so we'll go back to Will McDonald's. I mean,

772
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 1: excuse me, go back to the safety position. We're talking

773
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: about that just it's in my head. Jets enter free

774
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: agency with three unrestricted guys. They re signed Chuck Clark,

775
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: he doesn't even hit the market, so he becomes you strong,

776
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: you got your free safety, and Tony Adams. Right now,

777
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 1: Ashton Davis is still on the market. Interesting, he was

778
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: a valuable piece at six Takeaways last year also served

779
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: a valuable role or had a critical role on special teams,

780
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: I should say, and that Jordan white had goes back

781
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 1: to Tampa. Your thoughts on the safety position, big pitcher

782
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:55,760
Speaker 1: as we head towards the draft.

783
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love the Chuck Clark SI shigning him back.

784
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 4: He was wlated to be a starter for us last year,

785
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 4: that ends up going down. You think Tony Adams his

786
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 4: second year as a starter would take a significant step

787
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 4: as well. Hat Lou's and Jordan Whitehead. We saw at

788
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 4: times him take over games, especially that Buffalo Bills game.

789
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 3: Right.

790
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 4: The guy caught everything that was in his vicinity. Has

791
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 4: always been a really good guy in the box tackling

792
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 4: as well. The Ashton Davis one is interesting, right because

793
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 4: I thought that was something that they should do business with.

794
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 4: And again this could be Joe Douglass just letting the

795
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 4: market come to him, but I was a little nervous.

796
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 4: I know, Justin Simmons' name is still out there. He

797
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 4: would be a big boost, right, but it depends on

798
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 4: what he is going to want in free agency and

799
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 4: what the Jets are willing to pay him as well.

800
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,240
Speaker 4: You're talking about a perennial all pro not just perennial

801
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:43,720
Speaker 4: pro bowler.

802
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 1: All you think for a guy like Simmons, like right there,

803
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: he's looking for multiple years.

804
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 2: He's not going in with the one.

805
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 4: I mean, even though he's a little older now, I

806
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 4: think he still wants a minimum a.

807
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 3: Two year deal.

808
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, for sure.

809
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,439
Speaker 4: And if you're him, like you've earned that right by

810
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 4: your play. The thing is right, it comes down to

811
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 4: positional value and the safeties that had to learn that

812
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 4: this off season. Now, like Xavier McKinney got paid top

813
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,359
Speaker 4: dollar in the market, but a lot of safeties didn't.

814
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:11,919
Speaker 4: I think a lot of guys were still getting around

815
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 4: nine or ten million dollars. McKinny was like the one

816
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 4: caveat to that. He's right under if I believe.

817
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 1: Interesting to Poyer went to Miami for like one year

818
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: two million or something.

819
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I think he's he's older safety now, in

820
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 4: its mid thirty so, and ea, I know him personally.

821
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 4: He lives down here, so it just makes a lot

822
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 4: of sense. House in the off season don't have to

823
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 4: have different houses, So it just made a lot of

824
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 4: sense for him to be there, and obviously being in

825
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 4: that division for all these years in Buffalo.

826
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,760
Speaker 3: They know him really well in Miami.

827
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 4: So yeah, I was talking about the safety market like,

828
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 4: this isn't a strong safety class either, So a little

829
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 4: bit surprised, but not surprised because there were so many

830
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,439
Speaker 4: safeties all of a sudden they hit the market because

831
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 4: so many guys got released at the last minute EA.

832
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 4: So I think that determined the market where before when

833
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 4: I was talking in the show, the NFL draft kind

834
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 4: of dictates how the market does with free agency. Well,

835
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 4: when there's an abundance of talent on the open market, right,

836
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 4: that can dictate and hurt your market as well. So

837
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 4: I think a lot of safety saw that affect their

838
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 4: market this offseason because Cam Curll was another guy that

839
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 4: I thought he was going to get up wards a

840
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,919
Speaker 4: ten to eleven mil and he just didn't get that money.

841
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 4: He's a really good player as well. So I think

842
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 4: that Ashton Davis one makes a lot of sense. I

843
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 4: know there was talks that he maybe wants to go

844
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,399
Speaker 4: somewhere where he could potentially start. Well, I think there's

845
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 4: an opportunity with the New York Jets for him to

846
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 4: compete and potentially start. And we know for a fact

847
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 4: that Robert SLA and also coach Aubrick like using three

848
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 4: safety sets on defense. He could be a guy that

849
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 4: comes in on that, and he did that for the

850
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 4: Jets last year, So I would not be surprised if

851
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:49,439
Speaker 4: he ends up coming back to the Jets.

852
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 3: I think it makes a lot of sense.

853
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: All right, we got about one minute left summation. This

854
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: is our first.

855
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 2: NFL Draft podcast.

856
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: Where are the New York Jets at this point about

857
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 1: a month prior to the twenty twenty four NFL Draft.

858
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 4: I would say they're in a really good spot ea,

859
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 4: because there was a lot of question marks going into

860
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 4: the offseason and free agency, and people were wondering how

861
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 4: many questions would be answered via free agency before heading

862
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 4: into the draft, and.

863
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 3: Joe Douglas answered almost all of them.

864
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Speaker 4: Now again, will not be surprised to see them add

865
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Speaker 4: another receiver, maybe even an offensive line because just knowing

866
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 4: Joe Douglas and all the darts that he's thrown at

867
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Speaker 4: the dark wheel in regard to having great depth, it's

868
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 4: come back to even hurt him. So maybe he's consciously like,

869
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 4: you know, I need to sign another office a lineman,

870
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Speaker 4: even if we draft one or two, just so I

871
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,760
Speaker 4: have the depth, right, I know that the depth is there.

872
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 4: You would think that they would most likely sign another

873
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,879
Speaker 4: safety before heading into draft, just because they don't have

874
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 4: the abundance of picks like a lot of teams have

875
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 4: unless they decide to trade back. But I think they're

876
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 4: in a really good position just because instead of maybe

877
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 4: drafting for necessary need right away, they can draft for

878
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 4: depth and they can get best player available at number ten.

879
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 4: But when you look at the rest of the draft,

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Speaker 4: instead of like your third round pick being somebody that

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Speaker 4: you need to depend on right away, it could be

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Speaker 4: a depth pick now because he's done such a good

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Speaker 4: job in free agency.

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Speaker 3: Now, again, there's a caveat to that.

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Speaker 4: I think he still needs to sign maybe one more receiver,

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Speaker 4: another safety as well. Then I feel a lot more

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Speaker 4: comfortable saying all right for the rest of the draft,

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Speaker 4: now we can build on sustained success. Let's build and

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Speaker 4: develop guys that are the best player at that position

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Speaker 4: when we pick right instead of just drafting for necessary need.

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Speaker 1: Enjoyed it, Lejay, and we'll save a breakfast sandwich for you.

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Speaker 4: Oh please, dude, man, I don't eat ham though. Can

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Speaker 4: it be like turkey bacon?

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Speaker 2: Sure? We'll get that though, I like that