1 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: It's now time for Cannabis Talk one oh one with Blue, 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 1: Joe Grande and Mark and Craig Wasserman the Pot Brothers 3 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: at Law. We are the world's number one podcast for 4 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: everything cannabis. Hello and welcome to Cannabis Talk one on one. 5 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: My name is Blue. Alongside him is the world famous 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: Pot Brothers in Law and Mr Big Joe Grande and 7 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,319 Speaker 1: you are now doing to the greatest cannabis show in 8 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: the universe, in the world, I say the galaxy. This 9 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 1: time we're getting bigger. I think you're all correct. Hey, 10 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: we have an amazing show for you guys today. And Joe, 11 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 1: why don't you let him know what's going down? Well, 12 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: thank you everyone for listening to our podcast, Cannabis Talk 13 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: one oh one on the I Heart Radio app, Apple 14 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: Podcast or wherever you get your podcast. Make sure you 15 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: check out our Instagram pages for the daily news, learned 16 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: the script and learn the Slam Poem and all that 17 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: and more about our personal lives at Cannabis Talk one 18 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: oh one, at Pot Underscore Brothers Underscore at Underscore Law 19 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: and at wash Law. His little brother Mark Washerman at 20 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: wash Law is big brother Craig Washman at one Christopher 21 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,199 Speaker 1: Right is blue and I am at Joe Brande fifty 22 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 1: two and today we have a very special guest with us, 23 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: you guys. His name is Legendary, hence Frank the Legend Shamrock, 24 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 1: my brother, the CEO, keynote speaker. He does TV, phil producer. 25 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: He's a martial arts master, yes he is, but most 26 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: of us remember him as one bad motherfucker. I mean, 27 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 1: this dude would just ground and pound you. Frank Shamrock 28 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: was the first to hold the UFC Middleweight championship and 29 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 1: retired a four time defending undefeated champion. Frank Shamrock was 30 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: the number one ranked pound for pound UFC fighter in 31 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: the world during his reign as the UFC Middleweight Champion. 32 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: Frank Shamrock, it is always great to have you and 33 00:01:55,560 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: talk with you again. Brother. How are you. I'm doing great. 34 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: It's it's good to have you on it. Before we 35 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: chop it up with you and talk about cannabis and 36 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: this article I just read with you talking about how 37 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: you use cannabis throughout your whole career. I want to 38 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: throw a question around the room. Is all of us 39 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: are in different places. Frank, You're in the Bay Area, 40 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: I'm assuming correct. Well, thanks for calling and check it 41 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: in and hanging out, and I appreciate that, you asshole. Um, 42 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: but we're all in our separate homes in southern California 43 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: as well. But what do we all miss about COVID nineteen? 44 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's getting deep. Now. We've been months 45 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: inside the house, months doing our show remotely, and let's 46 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: start with you. Mark, At what point, you know, do 47 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: you want to just say screw it and let me 48 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,959 Speaker 1: just live my life? How are you feeling? What do 49 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: you miss the most? Well, you know what, I'm I'm 50 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: almost almost at that point, but you know, I'm still 51 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: listening to the health and safe the health experts and 52 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: the science scientists and everything. But that question, what do 53 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 1: I miss most? You know, there's there's so much. There 54 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 1: is so much, but to pick one thing. I really 55 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: thought about it. And every Saturday prior to this, every 56 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: Saturday night, without fail, me and my wife go to 57 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,239 Speaker 1: dinner at a place called the Blue Water Grill, get 58 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: away from the kids, just us, and we've I don't 59 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 1: even know how long we've done that. It's been so 60 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: long we'd every Saturday night, and uh that that's something 61 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: that I really really miss that. I'm looking forward to. Uh, 62 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: you know your wife doesn't listen to the podcast, right, 63 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: so you don't need to score brownie points work. Oh no, actually, 64 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: actually she will listen to this one because this morning 65 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: we got into a fight. So make sure this is it. Hey, 66 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: life is life? Oh come on, we're we're in quarantine 67 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: with our spouses for how long? I mean, somebody out 68 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: there staying they haven't gotten a fight with their with 69 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: their spouse bs? Oh uh yeah? What about you, Blue? 70 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: What do you miss the most? You know what I 71 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: missed being naked in public? We don't know nobody else 72 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: does now, you know what? Honestly, man, I I enjoy 73 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: you know, going out, you know, and and it's been 74 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: it's been ridiculous that we haven't been able to, you know, 75 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: go to certain places. Um. And it's just just the 76 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 1: simple things, Matt, going out to dinner, hitting a movie, 77 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: just doing the basics. I I really I really found 78 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: out how much I enjoyed that kind of stuff now 79 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: that this has happened. So it's the small things for me. 80 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: Man I hear that, Craig, before we find out what 81 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 1: you missed the most? We're do need an update on 82 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: the laps. As I keep reading on your I G. 83 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 1: People keep cominging how many laps is he swimming? Now? 84 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: As we've been following you on this quarantine, as you 85 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 1: started swimming your laps, Frank Shamrock just let you know. 86 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: You know our friend and brother here, Craig Washerman. He's 87 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,679 Speaker 1: the oldest of the group. He's at, you know, fifty 88 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: eight years old, and he started swimming laps at a 89 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 1: swimming pool. He started at three laps he was able 90 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: to do. So, now, Craig, where are you at with 91 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: your laps? Before we hear what you missed? Most of 92 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: our COVID nineteen Yeah, and it's I mean, the COVID 93 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: thing has been a mixed a mixed bag blessing in 94 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 1: disguise type thing, because I haven't had this pool for 95 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: literally twenty five years, and I go in it and 96 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: I get out of it. I don't swim in it. 97 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 1: And since his COVID things started, I've been I started 98 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: doing the laps and working my way up or walking 99 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: two miles a day. Uh So, I mean it's it's 100 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: been a blessing on that end of it, as far 101 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: as getting back into getting into shape and uh getting 102 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: my cardio up and and even though my old joints 103 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: are all fucked up, that's swimming is the best. What 104 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: I missed most. I gotta It's like blue Man, It's 105 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: just it's the little things. It's I know what it 106 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: really is. It's tough. Is the fucking hugs you can't hug, 107 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's it's brutal and and it's it's 108 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: just weird when you see somebody. We went on a 109 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: motorcycle ride this weekend. We actually was really cool. One 110 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: of our brothers friends in witty ER's daughter just got 111 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: back from Chalk from brain surgery and she was recovering 112 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: and they put together a caravan. So there's all these 113 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: cars going by with balloons and we we were on 114 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 1: our We had about twenty motorcycles that went by her 115 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: um and you just you can't stop and hug anybody 116 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 1: or say anything, or you know, you can't get too close. 117 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: You gotta wear the mask. And I don't know that. 118 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: I think that's a huge one. Is just not being 119 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: able to walk up and go, hey, give me that hug. 120 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: That is a tough one. What about you, Frank, What 121 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 1: do you miss? The moss COVID nineteens taken over. I 122 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: missed just hanging out, hanging out in the backyard, hanging 123 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 1: out with friends, barbecue and just chilling. And I finally 124 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: finished up the spiding career. I finally retired. I got 125 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: all this time in the world and now I got 126 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: I got. I'm just sitting with myself calling damn. It 127 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: just did not work out like I thought it was 128 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: gonna work out at the time, and nowhere to go, Hey, 129 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: what about you? I actually missed the most, you know, 130 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: with me having a five year old little boy and 131 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: a seven year old girl, we're always doing something on 132 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: the weekend sports wise with them, and both of their 133 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: baseball has gotten stopped, the basketball stop, so it just 134 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: sucked not being able to go to these games. And 135 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: these games are you know, they do more than just 136 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: me being able to watch my kids play. I get 137 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: to see their my kids friends, and we're friends with 138 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: the kids parents, so it's like all in one. I 139 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: get to hang out with these guys that I go 140 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: golfing with now and bs with around the neighborhood. So 141 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: it's that camaraderie of doing things with my kids that 142 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: I found that I missed the most because you know, 143 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: I can hang out with the guys and still hang 144 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: out with the kids and watch them have a great 145 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: time and watch them play sports. They're just gonna start 146 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: doing some more jiu jitsu. We just got an email 147 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: to the day saying the jiu jitsu class by the 148 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: house opened up, so we're like, yes, we can get 149 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: them out of the house and go do that. So 150 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: God William, I'll be able to go check that out. 151 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: But they're only doing private classes, so we'll see how 152 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: that works out. But uh, it's always good. We're gonna 153 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: come back and talk more with Frank Shamrock, the Legend, 154 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: So let's break real quick, and I'm gonna get on 155 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: his ask because I didn't know he lived in l A. 156 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: That's bullshit. It's Frank sham talk about one. Welcome back 157 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: to Cannabis Talk one on one. On the show today 158 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: we got a special guest with us, Frank the Legend Shamrock. 159 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: He was the first to hold the UFC Middleweight Championship 160 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: and retire a four time defending undefeated champion. Now, Shamrock 161 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: was number one ranked pound for pound UFC fighter in 162 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: the world during his reign as the UFC middleweight champion 163 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: Frank just recently said in an article from the Growth 164 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: Up magazine our online maggot, it was that I read 165 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 1: it is I just found cannabis was a wonderful pain reliever, 166 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: and he used it his entire sports career. All of 167 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: the world championship titles, everything that he achieved, he used 168 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: cannabis on a daily basis. And it's crazy, Frank, to 169 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: you to say this and barely come out now with 170 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: it recently, because I'm thinking what a burden that must 171 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: have been for you to not be able to preach 172 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: this gospel at the time when you're looking at this 173 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: as medicine and people would arrest you for it at 174 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: the time if you would have been saying it. Yeah, totally, 175 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,079 Speaker 1: I mean it was. It was a total bummer. And 176 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: then I had to you know, back then, the only 177 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: test was like cocaine and cannabis, and you had to 178 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: make sure you weren't on either of those. So, you know, 179 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,079 Speaker 1: the last two weeks would be horrid before a championship 180 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: fight because I couldn't consume my medicine. But I took 181 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: it every day morning, noon, and night. It was it 182 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: was the only thing I took cannabis and ice, uh, 183 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: throughout my entire career. And you know everyone says it's 184 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: you know, make you lazy, it'll uh you know, drag 185 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: you down. For me, it was a performance enhancer, and 186 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: it was a way to completely relax and just you know, 187 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: get rid of the pain. Fighting in a cage is 188 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 1: very painful, very painful. Oh yeah. I mean whenever I 189 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: watch it, every time there's a strike thrown or a punch, 190 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 1: I'm like, how that's got to hurt the TV. The 191 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: calf calf kicks, the calf kicks, Like, that's got to hurt. 192 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: Why come out the closet now? Why come out of 193 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: the green closet? Now? What's the feeling from you? Well, 194 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: I really started talking about it when it was legalized 195 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: in California, and it was really you know, it was 196 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: a whole team decision because at the time I was 197 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: a broadcaster for Showtime and I worked for CBS as 198 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: a presenter, um, you know, a professional spokesman. So my 199 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: job is to bring products to market, you know, help 200 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: change ideas, and so it was a very big decision 201 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: to make. But we were only able to do it 202 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: really because it was then legal and was when we 203 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: felt like it was the right time. It was something 204 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about at all times. But also 205 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: I was a martial arts instructor for twenty years, and 206 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: you know, martial arts is a very family oriented community 207 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: where if something is illegal, you don't do it, and 208 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: so I was definitely torn between two worlds. But you know, 209 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 1: by far, it's a better medicine than all the medicines 210 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: they give you as a sports athlete. And then if 211 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: you look at the science now, it's just ridiculous. You know, 212 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: it's proven neuroprotective. Every football player should be taking this, 213 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: Every contact sport athlete should be taking this because it's 214 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:34,319 Speaker 1: a better medicine than what's out there and currently available, 215 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: and it's all natural. Using Frank being in the in 216 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: the in the ring, who who do you feel was 217 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: your your your hardest competitor that you've ever had to 218 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: to to fight in the ring? Uh? It changed depending 219 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: on the you know, the moment, but the biggest and 220 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: the toughest was when I fought to Warties because he 221 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 1: was just the next level Yeah, the next level guy. 222 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: I mean he's like six two, you know, it's like 223 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: too forty. I'm five ten, you know, hundred ninety pounds. 224 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 1: So he was just the next level of human being. 225 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: And when you're a professional athlete, you know, the size 226 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: of volume, the mass, you know, all that stuff matters 227 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: a lot. And he, you know, he put a beating 228 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: on me. I ended up winning, but he was the 229 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 1: toughest physical confrontation I've ever had. You seems like you 230 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: can take many punches. I was, you know, I was 231 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: doing research on you last night, Frank, and I was 232 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: reading stuff, and then I went to the YouTube and 233 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: I swear to god, I don't know how many different times, 234 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: but the taunting guys punching you in the face and 235 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 1: you laughing at him, just laughing at him. After I 236 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:43,959 Speaker 1: was just like, what now, Now, I do have a 237 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: question about the cannabis use. When you were using it, 238 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 1: what were you using a combination of CBD, TH HC, 239 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: How were you consuming it? What was the best way 240 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: for you? Can you talk about that a little bit? Yeah, 241 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: for sure. Well, I really liked edibles as sort of 242 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: a nighttime experience or a Sunday experience, because the train 243 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: six days a week, you know, it's Monday through Saturday 244 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: for night for sixteen years, and so Sunday was sort 245 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: of my day off. So Sunday was edible day, relaxed day, 246 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: travel days. If I had to travel flight to Japan, 247 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 1: I would use edibles. But all else it was just 248 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 1: pure smoking because it's the fastest, most convenient, most functional 249 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: way to consume and it it uh delivers the medicine 250 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: the quickest. And and what's funny is I was known 251 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:30,079 Speaker 1: for my cardiovascular endurance and I could outlast anybody else 252 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 1: and the whole time I was smoking. Um, so it 253 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: was just for me. I would the O G S, 254 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: the Purple Lease, those things get rid of my pain, 255 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: you know, and I had had Yeah, I had really 256 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:47,839 Speaker 1: bad back pain for years and years. It's so unfortunate 257 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 1: that it's falling on deaf ears at the federal level. 258 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 1: It's just so falling on deaf ears. All the great 259 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: things that this plant can do. One thing I wanted 260 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: to ask, is you retired in two correct? Yes? And 261 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 1: what you were thirty eight? I mean, how do you 262 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:12,319 Speaker 1: believe that the cannabis use all those years allowed you 263 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: to extend your your run at this sport? I mean, 264 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: I know as the years went in. I mean I 265 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: think I've reading a quote from me today at some 266 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: point in time, you're just you know, physically, your mind's there. 267 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: I'm a champion, but it just isn't gonna work. Do 268 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: you think the cannabis helped you go that long? Absolutely? Absolutely, 269 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: because besides the pain, a great pain management tool that 270 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: wasn't addictive, it was a great psychological relaxant. You know, 271 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: it's a great way. Absolutely. We are here with Frank 272 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: the Legend Shamrocks. He is a retired four time defending 273 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: undefeated UFC middleweight champion. Frank, sorry to cut you off, 274 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: big brother, but I wanted to ask you about the 275 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: Barony fight because that was one of the fights that 276 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: that that I was watching, and that guy wanted wanted you. 277 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: I mean there was and I think you wanted him 278 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: to and the first round you pretty much almost had him. 279 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: Can you talk about that first round of that fight? Yeah? Well, 280 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: the funny part is the lead up to that fight 281 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: was two weeks before that fight, I blew my knee out, 282 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: my left knee all the tendons m c L A 283 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: c L P c L and I was in an 284 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: electric wheelchair and I knew I had to fight because 285 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: this was a big moment for showtime. It was a 286 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: big moment for my brand. I had been disqualified in 287 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: my previous fight, and so it was like a big 288 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: brand moment where I knew I had to show up, 289 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: and so I showed up, you know, hurt. But the 290 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: way to be Phil was psychologically. I got in his 291 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: head and I picked on him and I made fun 292 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: of him, and you know, basically teased him. You know, 293 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: I teased him into being, yeah, and being and being 294 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: angry and sort of losing his focus. And then, you know, 295 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: the thing with Phil was when he lost his focus 296 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: and he got angry, he got tight and you could 297 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: see the punches coming. So I knew I could outstrike 298 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: him if I kept him on that psychological edge. And yeah, 299 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: I lit him up. I even called like I did 300 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: the sleeper move, and you know, I thought for certain 301 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: he would fall down at that. But every time he 302 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: went to punch, I could see it because he was 303 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: so upset and he was so tense, and right as 304 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: soon as he would punch, I would just blast him 305 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: right on the chin. And I thought for certain he 306 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: was finished in that first round, but he did come 307 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: back to life and and and fight until the second. 308 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: But you finish going back to cannabis, old Mark, Uh, Frank, 309 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: if you could turn on your phone too, so we 310 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: could hear you on the zoom and get that as 311 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: a recording as well. So just mute that. But going 312 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: back to cannabis too, and you're fighting. How did you 313 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: learn to balance as far as you said you did 314 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: edibles at night? Like did you know to do edibles 315 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: at night? What gave you that sense? And who taught 316 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: you how to use the cannabis for the best results? 317 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: Just just trial and error. You know, it wasn't something 318 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: we really talked about in the culture, different different countries. Uh, 319 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 1: you mean Javier Mendez didn't say here's didn't. No, No, 320 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 1: they all thought I was crazy and they didn't understand, 321 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: you know, what I was doing or why I was 322 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: doing it. But I was performing well, so they didn't 323 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: stop me. And no one really said, you know, don't 324 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: do it. But you know everyone else was taken Viking 325 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: in and you know, Perkos said, and they were taking 326 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: all these other pills. When I took those, I felt terrible. 327 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 1: I didn't sleep good, my body felt heavy. You know 328 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: I'm dry when I smoke cannabis, you know, I would 329 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 1: I would wake up. I feel amazing, and so I 330 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 1: just threw trial and air. I realized that this was 331 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: a better medicine. All I need is ice and cannabis 332 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 1: and my body will do anything. You know, what I 333 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: think is great and we'll keep it on the subject 334 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: of cannabis. Is the fact that I read that you 335 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 1: don't use cannabis any longer, or at least as of 336 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 1: the data that article, because you started the meditation, you 337 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: got therapy for all those for the back injury and 338 00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: the back problems, and you stopped using annabis because you 339 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,479 Speaker 1: didn't need it for the pain any longer. Does that 340 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: still hold true? Yeah? Yeah, I stopped using it. She's 341 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: been almost a year now because about yeah, yeah, Well 342 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: what happened was, you know, since I was sixteen, I 343 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 1: had back pain because I got a spondee in my 344 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 1: spines and one of my little vertebrates is broken. And 345 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: I fell off a roof jumping off. It was that 346 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: jumping off or falling off a two. I fell because 347 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 1: I was actually reaching to grab this oak tree branch 348 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: and the wind blew as soon as I grabbed it, 349 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 1: so it sort of pulled me. It sort of pulled 350 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 1: me off the roof, and then I fell two stories 351 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: on my back, and you know, one of the rules 352 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: in our house was you don't get on the roof. 353 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: So I didn't tell anybody, but for my for my 354 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 1: entire sports car, I had this terrible pain in my 355 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: lower back, like sciatica pain. And I would be kicking 356 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: everyone's ass in the gym and all of a sudden, 357 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 1: my back would go out and I'd fall over and 358 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: I'd have to go to the doctor and get it fixed. Yeah, 359 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: it was really bad, and so I searched for twenty 360 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 1: plus years to find the doctor to fix I finally 361 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: found one right here in Beverly Hills, Dennis uh Colonello, 362 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 1: and he fixed my back. And so one day I 363 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:07,919 Speaker 1: woke up and I had no back pain. So I 364 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 1: was like, a wait about surgery without surgery? Yeah, So 365 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 1: then I was at the point. But the point I 366 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 1: wanted to bring up was that And it's awesome because 367 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,479 Speaker 1: you're out of the green closet. My brother and I 368 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: advocate this all the time, that you can be successful 369 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: rechanging the definition and the stereotype of the word stoner. 370 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: And the fact is huge this is that this is 371 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 1: a huge exclamation point. It's not addictive for you to 372 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 1: be able to smoke for all those years, thirty years, 373 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: thirty or whatever, twenty five years, and then how you 374 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 1: can stop because you don't need it. You found another 375 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: way to manage your pain and get healthy. I mean, 376 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: it's just crazy. It's not addictive, and everybody needs to 377 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: know that. Frank you know, uh, do you still work 378 00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:59,479 Speaker 1: Are you still working out? How are you keeping your 379 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: fitness and um, you know things like that. Yeah, I 380 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: still work out, but now it's all sort of outside natural. 381 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 1: We hike, we ride bikes, we you know, go rock climbing. 382 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: It's pretty much a natural experience because I spent you know, 383 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 1: twenty plus years in the gym at the highest level. 384 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: So we we use nature. And that's one of the 385 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: good things about the quarantine, if there are some good things. 386 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:22,919 Speaker 1: I get to spend tremendous amount of time with my 387 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: daughter and every night, you know, we're two hours out 388 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: in nature doing you know, physical activity, spending as you're 389 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: on these walk freak and doing all these things. Now 390 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: that you're retired, do you ever reflect back to your career. 391 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not going to mention when you and 392 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,439 Speaker 1: I went to Brazil, when I carried the belts and 393 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: that which probably your highlight as well as mine, but 394 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 1: always my point, well I did do that. For those 395 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: who don't know, you've been every in the interview, you've 396 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: done everything. Well, yeah, it was just a great time 397 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: and a great experience that we shared together. And I 398 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: always thank you for allowing me to go on that 399 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: trip with you for that fight. But as you reflect 400 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: now that you're retired, do you look back and think 401 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: who was it better to fight for? Data White, Scott Coker? 402 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 1: When you're retired came back, what do you look at 403 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 1: and what do you think of when you think of 404 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: those different entities that you fought with. Well, for me, 405 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: it's not even so much the entities. I mean I 406 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 1: loved fighting for Scott and the UFC, they all were great, 407 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: But for me, it was the performances themselves, because each 408 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: one was like a personal, you know, journey each you know. 409 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: Fighting Tito, I mean he was a monster. I mean 410 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: even my own brother was like, don't fight him, He's 411 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 1: gonna crush you. Well that was my brother's So I 412 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: only fought him once and then my brother Can bought 413 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: him three times. Um and he beat he beat Can 414 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 1: all three times. But I beat him. So it's just 415 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: and then when I fought fail like I blown my 416 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: knee out, and so you know, everybody, even my doctor, 417 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,199 Speaker 1: is like, there's no way you can do this. So 418 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: for me, it was a huge spiritual and personal experience 419 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: to be able to meditate, to be able to calm myself, 420 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 1: to be able to go no, I have to do 421 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: this from my career, for my brand, for the sport, 422 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: and into walk in there when you know, basically it 423 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: was impossible to win and to find a way to win. 424 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 1: And so when you come out of moments like that, 425 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: from personal experiences like that, that's what I when I'm 426 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: walking down, you know, when I'm hiking, that's what I 427 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: think about, is how on earth, you know, did I 428 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: do that? But everybody has that power to sort of 429 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: reach deep inside to do what they think is impossible, 430 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 1: to sort of overcome these things. And now, I mean, 431 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: you know, it's certainly paid off. I'm you know, spending 432 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: my days in leisure, hiking in the forest with my 433 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 1: little girl, enjoying the good life. We're here with Frank 434 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 1: the Legend Shamrock, one bad motherfucker, like Joe said, retired 435 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: four time defending undefeated champion man. It's it's a pleasure 436 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 1: to have you here. And I want to talk a 437 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 1: little about your childhood because you had a pretty rough 438 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 1: childhood uh coming up, and that's kind of what led 439 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: you to uh fighting uh in the ring, as I 440 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: understand that you didn't do too much fighting outside of 441 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: it when you were younger, although you got into a 442 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: lot of maybe in jail. I got I got a 443 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: couple of beefs when I was in jail. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 444 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 1: I had had a tough childhood and I grew up 445 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: in a broken home, in an abusive home, um you know, 446 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: addiction issues, with all kinds of issues. Um. But and 447 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 1: I found a way out when I was eleven years 448 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: old and threw rocks at a train and that got 449 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: me sent to juvenile hall. Throwing rocks at a train 450 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: in California is actually a felony, and so it they 451 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 1: took me from my home. I ended up doing ten 452 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: days in juvenile hall. And when I was eleven years old, 453 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,360 Speaker 1: I was talking all the bad kids and they were 454 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: telling I was like asking him, hey, how do you 455 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 1: how do you deal with this locking in the closet thing? 456 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 1: And you guys have to live in the backyard and 457 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 1: as I'm saying these things, They're looking at me all horrified. 458 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,360 Speaker 1: And I realized that my my childhood was not that good. 459 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: And so I found that crime was the tool that 460 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: took me out of that home. And I leaned in 461 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: the crime like you wouldn't believe, which worked out great 462 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: until I ended up in prison when I was seventeen. 463 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,439 Speaker 1: And then I ended up doing a good, good stretch 464 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,120 Speaker 1: of time. I did three and a half years from 465 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: seventeen to twenty one, and then you know, I just 466 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 1: I found a mentor while I was in that group 467 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 1: home system, Bob Shamrock. And Bob Shamrock, you know, gave 468 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 1: me great advice. He was my first father figure. He 469 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 1: told me to invest in my body, my mind and 470 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 1: my spirit and you know, to keep training basically. And 471 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 1: when I got out, you know, this sport had just started, 472 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 1: and you know, my dream was always to be a champion, 473 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: a sports champion. So even though I was afraid to fight, 474 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 1: even though you know, made me very nervous to be 475 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: in a situation like that, um, I had the machine 476 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: for it, and I had the faith, and I went 477 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: for it. How did you feel about Yeah, Bob did 478 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: that he would be so mad at me, but his 479 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: whole thing was and this is one of the things 480 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:45,479 Speaker 1: that kept me in it is you know, he said, Hey, 481 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 1: as long as you're doing your stuff, long as you 482 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: take care of your business, I don't care what you do. Yeah. 483 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,239 Speaker 1: I get parents call me up that no I use 484 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 1: weed or smoke cannabis, and they say, oh, my seventeen 485 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 1: year old or eight year and wants to smoke. And 486 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 1: I said, you know what, tell them exactly what you 487 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,640 Speaker 1: just said is what I tell people. If they're doing 488 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 1: everything they're supposed to be doing, what's the problem. And 489 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: when people say cannabis makes you lazy, we say, no, 490 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 1: you're a lazy ass who uses cannabis your art. Cannabis 491 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: does not make him lazy. And we have an example 492 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: right here that shows that, I mean, couldn't be well. 493 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: All of you guys are examples. You and your brother 494 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: as well, Craig. I mean, don't just give Frank the 495 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,880 Speaker 1: credit for being an athlete, for sure, as they're very 496 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: successful lawyers. He's a very successful CEO of his company. 497 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: All three of you guys are examples of Stoner's at 498 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: the peak of their stone age. Aides and being very successful. Well, guys, 499 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:47,439 Speaker 1: we're listening to Frank Shamrock, actually the original Rock, the 500 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 1: legend Shamrock right, weighing in at what is it? Two 501 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: oh five, standing five ten? I wish I wish six 502 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:02,199 Speaker 1: pounds and uh, but we never told anybody that. We 503 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 1: just let him think that was a lot bigger. But 504 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: I'm actually about a hundred pounds or so. Well, a 505 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 1: lot of the guys you bought looked looked a lot 506 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 1: bigger than you, and you just they were. Yeah. But 507 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: when I started, there was no weight classes, Like I 508 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 1: was the first weight class champion, and that weight class 509 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,439 Speaker 1: was one point nine nine and below, so every single 510 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 1: human being was bigger than me. I used to eat 511 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: a full meal every night when I went to bed 512 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: because it was the only way to maintain the weight 513 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: and give me crazy dreams like I had the crazy 514 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,719 Speaker 1: a little eat a little crazy dream all night and 515 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: then wake up. Frank, UFC just had a fight with 516 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: no fighters have had a few. Now I'm wondering, would 517 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: you partake in something like that or what are your 518 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 1: thoughts on it? You know that the UFC is actually 519 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 1: doing it, how tough would it be mentally for the fighter? 520 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: Or doesn't even even play a factor. Well, what's funny 521 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: is because I started in Japan and back in the nineties, 522 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 1: the crowd didn't cheer because it wasn't it wasn't socially cool. 523 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: You didn't cheer, you didn't express yourself, you know, verbally 524 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: in a social setting unless you had an intimate connection 525 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: with someone personally, so they would just politely applause and 526 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: oh uh. And so what's amazing about it is you 527 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: actually get to hear your corner and depth. And the 528 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 1: hardest part for me being a rock star is to 529 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 1: go out and have this, you know, fifty thou people 530 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,360 Speaker 1: screaming and you're trying to hear your corner. So it's 531 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 1: actually be a huge bonus as a as an athlete 532 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 1: competing right now to not have it was interesting listening 533 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: to the corner. You could hear everything. It was awesome. Yeah, yeah, 534 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,199 Speaker 1: I would prefer it because that's all I'm trying to 535 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 1: do is filter out my wife's screams and then here 536 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: the corner man tell me what to do. Frank, you 537 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: mentioned that you you were scared to fight that very 538 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 1: first time you fought professionally. How was that? How did 539 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 1: you prefer prepare yourself, and how did you get through 540 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: the fears you might have had going in. I was 541 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 1: very afraid, and I had lots of meditation, Lucil. I 542 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:07,679 Speaker 1: had all that time in prison to sort of make 543 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 1: up my mind and you know, sort of decided like 544 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 1: I have to have to go do this. Um And 545 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: for me it was even scarier because I went to 546 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: Japan for my first fight, and I went to Japan 547 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 1: for two months to finish my training. So I went 548 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:24,360 Speaker 1: from fulsome prison to shin Yokohama, Japan and lived there 549 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,719 Speaker 1: for two months while on parole and finished my training. 550 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: So it was terrifying. It was literally terrifying, I would 551 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: say that in Japan. Yeah, well, back in the day, 552 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,239 Speaker 1: it was the only place you could be employed, and 553 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: so we we were able to prove that it was 554 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: gameful employment only available in this certain area, and I 555 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:47,719 Speaker 1: had to go or it was a disadvantage to me. 556 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: That's frank the legend share Rock. What fighters are you 557 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: enjoyed watching now? Do any of them remind you of yourself? Um? Well, 558 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: Henry Suta reminds me of me because he looks exactly 559 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: like me. Love my little brother, Your everyone says he 560 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: might be my son, he might be my little brother. 561 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 1: I really like I liked what the girls are doing, 562 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 1: you know. I like the old school guys that like 563 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 1: John Jones, Um. You know, I see I see a 564 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: little bit of me and all of them. Because I 565 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: was the first, you know, complete mixed martial arts guy. 566 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: I was the first guy to really, like Bruce Lee saw, 567 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: you know, thought to create a system and then to 568 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: use that system effectively so there's no weaknesses. So when 569 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: I watched them today, I'm like, I remember when we 570 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: figured that one out, and I remember when we tied 571 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: that together, and back in the day, I could see 572 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: the spaces between the styles. And that's how I set 573 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: all those records and beat all those guys, is you know, 574 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: their minds were stuck in one area because I was 575 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 1: studying so much. Because I was trying to connect all 576 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 1: the styles, I could see where the things didn't connect 577 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 1: and where there was weaknesses. It's a trip that you 578 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 1: say that, because I was mentioning that to the guys 579 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: and thinking about your history and following you early on 580 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: in your career how you did bring it all together right, 581 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 1: So you're kind of the as this Michael Jordan's special 582 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: was out the Last Dance. You're kind of the Michael 583 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: Jordan's of the UFC and Mixed Martial Arts in my opinion, because, 584 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: like you said, you brought it all together. So that'll 585 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: be said if we do because I think I'm gonna 586 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: produce this now that I just think about it, We're 587 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 1: gonna do the Frank Shamrock Last Dance. What would you 588 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: call yours instead of the Last Dance? What would Frank 589 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: the Legend Shamrocks Special beyond ESPN? What would you do it? Um? 590 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: I would call it, uh, something to do with warriors 591 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 1: like warriors path or journey, or something to do with 592 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: warriors and warriors Path and Journey. Frank, what he put together, 593 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: I mean, Michael Jordan was great, don't get me wrong, 594 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: but I gotta put Frank above that. As far as 595 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 1: putting together I mean several. I mean all these different styles, 596 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 1: ground and pound, stand up strike. I mean, everything he 597 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: put together is something that didn't exist. Michael Jordan may 598 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: have taken basketball to another level, may be able to 599 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 1: see things on the court, blah blah blah, but he 600 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 1: didn't put together a complete system that would go on 601 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: to decimate everybody in his path, So props to you. 602 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 1: And and you're doing cannabis. So in between when you're 603 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: putting all this together, let's bring it back to cannabis, 604 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: when you're putting on, when you're doing all this and 605 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 1: thinking how do I put this with that and how 606 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: do I you know, these combinations in these different styles 607 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:39,959 Speaker 1: you were you were using cannabis, correct, totally, that's awesome. Yeah. 608 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: And I know for a fact that being in a 609 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: very relaxed state of mind, you know, not being in pain, um, 610 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 1: you know, not having certain fears, uh, you know, feeling 611 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 1: a certain way. I know for a fact that those 612 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 1: those are some of the things that helped me, you know, 613 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: envision what hadn't been seen yet, you know, to help 614 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: finish this system and create the system because everyone else 615 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: is you know, stoned out of their mind on you know, 616 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,719 Speaker 1: her caocets, and they can't feel anything, you know, basically 617 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: their body is dead. Um and you know, I feel 618 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 1: good and my mind is still very active and my 619 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 1: mind is still very creative, and it was a very 620 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 1: creative process to come up with this stuff. It's also 621 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 1: terrifying when you're the guy coming up with the system 622 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: because there's nobody to ask. There's nobody that knows, and 623 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 1: I knew that nobody can't. Then there's no wrong way. 624 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: But it's usually you know, your coach can guide you, 625 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 1: and your coach you know, hey do this. But I 626 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: realized my coaches didn't know it, and so it was 627 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: up to me to sort of come up with the 628 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: strategies and come up with the systems, and to be 629 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: honest with you, that's terrifying. It's imagine going to war 630 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: and and as a soldier, you're making all the decisions. 631 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: And that's how it was for me. Sure, Frank, let 632 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: me ask you this. You know, what do you what 633 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 1: do you think about the UFC Two part questions. Do 634 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 1: you think the the UFC is is leaning towards the 635 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: cannabis used for their for their fighters? And to where 636 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: is the UFC going right now? And are you happy 637 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 1: with where they're where they're headed you know as far 638 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 1: as from when you were, Yeah, they're definitely moving towards 639 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 1: you know, a cannabis friendly um environment because you know, 640 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: they see the results. Everybody's using you know, CBD, everybody's 641 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 1: using oils. People are figuring out that it does protect 642 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 1: your brain and you can help protect your brain. Um. 643 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: So they're definitely getting more friendly about it. But really 644 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: that's up to the commissions, and that's up to you know, 645 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 1: the people that sort of oversee that testing side. Um. 646 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 1: You know, I and I love where the sport is at, 647 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 1: like my dream. I mean, I was the first spokesman. 648 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: So my job was to get us on cable. My 649 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 1: job was to get us on network. My job was 650 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: to grow this thing until it was on ESPN. So 651 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 1: when I see it on ESPN now it's like, you know, 652 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 1: we made it. You know, this is where we're supposed 653 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 1: to be because it's it's one of the most exciting 654 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 1: and interesting sports. And for me, you know, I didn't 655 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 1: I didn't play on teams. It was me and my coaches, 656 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 1: you know, against the other their side. Um. So there's 657 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 1: something very special about singular competition and what that does 658 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,800 Speaker 1: for the human spirit and what you see when that happens, 659 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 1: you know, for the individual and then for the crowd 660 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 1: as well. And like you said, you took it to 661 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 1: the next level as they had no I used to guys. 662 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: Let let me ask one more question here, one more 663 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 1: question from me. Would you it would be kind of 664 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,280 Speaker 1: funny though, do you think they'd ever ban it because 665 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 1: it's it's enhancing you as you know, like other steroids 666 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 1: things like that. It's like they're gonna say, wait, it's 667 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 1: not fair because you're you're taking cannabis and I'm not 668 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,319 Speaker 1: well that if they were smart, they'd figure that out. 669 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 1: But I don't think they're ever gonna even get to 670 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 1: that mindset. For me, it was a total enhanswer. Like 671 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 1: for me, it was a secret weapon because every night 672 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,320 Speaker 1: I slept good, I wasn't in pain, I could train longer, 673 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 1: I could, you know, think better, I could think more creatively. 674 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean there's certainly in our argument that 675 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 1: could be said for that. Well, guys, you're listening to 676 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio with Frank Shamrock. When we come back, 677 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 1: we're gonna have the high five right here on Cannabis 678 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 1: Talk one on one. We'll be right back. Welcome back 679 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,439 Speaker 1: to Cannabis Talk one on one. I'm Mark Wasserman, little 680 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,800 Speaker 1: Brother the Pop Brothers at Law with my big brother Craig, 681 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:27,840 Speaker 1: Big Joe, Grande and Blue and our special guest Frank 682 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 1: the Legend Shamrock. And right now it's special thanks time 683 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 1: to our producer Elvis social Media, Jennifer and Sophia and 684 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 1: David Wasserman at I Heart for helping us get this 685 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 1: podcast up and out to the whole world. And a 686 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 1: very very special shout out to Big Boy Boy because 687 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 1: that guy deserves it, and everyone who supported Cannabis Talk 688 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,439 Speaker 1: one on one. We truly appreciate you. Now back over 689 00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 1: to the guy you called Joe, but I call him 690 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 1: the round Mound the radio. It's time for that high five. 691 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 1: Take it away. Well, we have Frank the legend Shamrock 692 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 1: on with us. Frank, it's always a pleasure to catch 693 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 1: up with you. I like I said earlier on, I 694 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 1: just want to thank you again for the memories. I 695 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 1: have a picture up on my wall literally in my 696 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 1: office of me, you, Maurice Smith, and Javier Mendez in 697 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 1: the back, and I'm looking at it right now and 698 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 1: I literally have that picture up in my office and 699 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,319 Speaker 1: I put it everywhere in anywhere I've moved to, so 700 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,759 Speaker 1: you're always a part of my office. Just to let 701 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 1: you know you're always with you, mother, So thank you 702 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,759 Speaker 1: very much. And there's a picture of me holding the 703 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 1: belt behind your your head after you won that fight. 704 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:45,760 Speaker 1: Can we do a high five, Joe, enough about you, Okay, 705 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:47,959 Speaker 1: sorry about that, Frank. How old are you the first 706 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 1: time you smoked? And where did you get it from? 707 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:55,479 Speaker 1: I think I was about nine or ten years old, 708 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 1: and it was from my neighbor across the way. He 709 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,320 Speaker 1: had a little brother. Uh, there was an older brother, 710 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,720 Speaker 1: and the older brother smoked, and I knew the smell 711 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 1: from my My mom was like a hippie, so I 712 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 1: knew the smell, and so me and the younger brother 713 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:14,880 Speaker 1: went into his tin speed zip open pouch. We found 714 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,399 Speaker 1: some green and we smoked it. I remember the first time. Yeah, 715 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 1: it probably was ten as about Ten's what I think 716 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,319 Speaker 1: you've already answered this, But what is your favorite way 717 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,720 Speaker 1: to use cannabis? For me? Smoking? Smoking is the best. 718 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 1: It's the fastest delivery source. It's the easiest, most functional 719 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 1: and works the best for me because I got pain 720 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,400 Speaker 1: and I need it gone like immediately. Is a joint, 721 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 1: a pipe, a bong, which way, whatever, whatever, whatever's closest. Yeah, 722 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,360 Speaker 1: whatever gets near the hand. Question number three of the 723 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,400 Speaker 1: High Five on Cannabis talk one on one with Frank's Shamrock. 724 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:58,320 Speaker 1: Craziest place you've ever used cannabis? Oh wow? Uh, definitely 725 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:04,879 Speaker 1: on the airplane. Nice, definitely on the air Yeah, no, no, no, 726 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 1: pup uh commercial. We flew back from Japan one time 727 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 1: and the Dutch guys had given me some um, give 728 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 1: me some weed. But it was pure white. It was 729 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 1: nothing but like crystal white weed. Like it was the 730 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,279 Speaker 1: strongest thing you've ever experienced in your life. And so 731 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 1: I went to the bathroom with a can and I 732 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 1: took one hit, one hit, and I was and I was, 733 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:28,880 Speaker 1: I was just like ah, like one hit and I 734 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 1: was back to sleep and again yeah, one hit, one hit. 735 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 1: Yeah that Japan, right is ten hours. So you gotta 736 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:43,760 Speaker 1: settle in the cannabis. Talk one O one high five. 737 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 1: We're here with Frank the Legend Shamrock UFC Middleweight Championship 738 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 1: retired to four time defending undefeated champion. Here is question 739 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,799 Speaker 1: number four of the high five. What is your go 740 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 1: to Munchie's after you get high? Oh? I like chips. 741 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 1: I loved him in Anything salty to me. It's it's 742 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 1: something to do with the salt and the crunch and 743 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 1: the whole. Yeah yeah, yeah, okay, I like but anything Cheetos, 744 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:19,320 Speaker 1: Frito's heat, like any any anything that crunches and munches 745 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 1: like that. You should be a fact I frank, because 746 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 1: you're way too freakship rock. If you can smoke we 747 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,359 Speaker 1: cannabis whatever you want to call it. With anyone dead 748 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:36,879 Speaker 1: or alive, who would it be? Bob Marley Man? Well? Yeah, 749 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 1: I mean but why why? What is your reason for Bob? 750 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,319 Speaker 1: Of course you could have many, but what is your 751 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,319 Speaker 1: reason for Bob Marley? Well? I think he used the 752 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 1: medicine in a very spiritual way and it enhanced sort 753 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 1: of his music and his life, and to him it was, uh, 754 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 1: you know, his medicine part of his religious culture. And 755 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:56,719 Speaker 1: to me, that's where this started from, you know. And 756 00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,799 Speaker 1: eons ago, you know, some some guys wearing skins were 757 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,400 Speaker 1: running around and they found this medicine and they realized 758 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,920 Speaker 1: it was good for them, and so they started incorporating 759 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 1: it into their culture, into their lifestyle, into their medicines. 760 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 1: Before we wrap up to I want to ask you 761 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,440 Speaker 1: one more question. Is there anybody out there that you 762 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,480 Speaker 1: would not regret but say, you know what, I want 763 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,439 Speaker 1: to get your ass in the ring one more time. 764 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 1: I know I'm retired, I know you're retired, but let's 765 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,320 Speaker 1: just you know, ground and pound for a minute, I 766 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,239 Speaker 1: still want to give you a couple of punches. The 767 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,720 Speaker 1: only guy that I didn't get to with with soccer 768 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,239 Speaker 1: Raba in Japan, and that just you know, too many 769 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,719 Speaker 1: players were in the way. And then and then my 770 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 1: brother Ken like him and I had be for years. 771 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 1: We were going to work it out, and then that 772 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,239 Speaker 1: fell apart as well. So as I look back, you know, 773 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,480 Speaker 1: we grew up fighting. We grew up in a culture 774 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 1: where if you had a beef, you dealt with it 775 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,600 Speaker 1: and then you hugged it out. And so you know 776 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,279 Speaker 1: that the moment and your brother said it best on 777 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,319 Speaker 1: that special. I love the special by the way, on 778 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 1: Spike TV with you and your brother in the whole 779 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 1: meeting up and stuff. Like families fight for free all 780 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:06,720 Speaker 1: the time every day. Keep each other. Marc and Clig. 781 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 1: You can hear them fighting outside the office on a 782 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,799 Speaker 1: daily basis. Let him get some money for it. For 783 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:16,840 Speaker 1: God's sakes, we're gonna charge you next time, Joe, what 784 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 1: are you watching and eating popcorn over there? And one 785 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,919 Speaker 1: more thing that that we do have to do, Joe, 786 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 1: and you mentioned it at the beginning of the show. 787 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 1: Our script and something that we we like to leave 788 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,840 Speaker 1: with our guests, and and do you even know it? 789 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 1: You know, Frank, do you know what me and my 790 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:35,600 Speaker 1: brother teach people across the country about dealing with law enforcement? 791 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:40,400 Speaker 1: To shut the funk up? Right? Ultimately, that's right, Stimately, 792 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 1: that's the takeaway. But our script is a simple twenty 793 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,279 Speaker 1: five words, and we like to make sure everybody knows it. 794 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 1: So me and my big brother will do the daily 795 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 1: script review. Ready, big brother, do it all right? What 796 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:52,799 Speaker 1: do you say when the cops first pull you over? 797 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 1: Why did you pull me over? Sir? And when they 798 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:59,880 Speaker 1: start asking questions, not discussing my day or evening, and 799 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,960 Speaker 1: and they keep asking more questions my being detained or 800 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,440 Speaker 1: am I free to go? And if detained, what do 801 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:10,319 Speaker 1: you say? I invoked the fifth And then when they 802 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,160 Speaker 1: get in your face and intimidate you, try to scare 803 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,439 Speaker 1: you and lie to you and say whatever they want 804 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,160 Speaker 1: and ask you more questions, what do you do? I 805 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:22,360 Speaker 1: shut the funk up, shut the funk up, and ultimately 806 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:26,040 Speaker 1: shut the funk up, and cops asked questions. So, Frank, 807 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 1: we teach that just across the country. What do you 808 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:32,240 Speaker 1: think about that? I love it because I've always dreaded 809 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,239 Speaker 1: that day when they would pull me over and be like, 810 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:38,480 Speaker 1: why does your car smell like a bunch of cannabis? 811 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 1: Disgusting my day? And Frank, you know what, We've actually 812 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:53,319 Speaker 1: created this poem that first if Joe, if Frank the 813 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 1: Legend wants to hear it, I might have to hold on, 814 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:04,400 Speaker 1: hold on. I just want hey, guys, leave a comment below, 815 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:08,680 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, hey, I don't want Frank the 816 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:17,239 Speaker 1: Legend punched me in the face, but now I'll be 817 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:21,759 Speaker 1: draft freak. Well, as much as I hate doing it, 818 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,719 Speaker 1: here you go. Am I being detained? Or am I 819 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:28,360 Speaker 1: free to go? This is what to say, my lawyer 820 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,399 Speaker 1: tells me. So the cops are out there doing a job. 821 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,600 Speaker 1: Sometimes they must contain a mob, a thankless job that 822 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,400 Speaker 1: saves many lives. At their home are worried children, husbands 823 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,640 Speaker 1: and wives. But does that give them the right to 824 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,759 Speaker 1: stomp on my rights? So we are here for you, 825 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,239 Speaker 1: the cannabis community, to fight to let you know it's 826 00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,000 Speaker 1: okay to just shut the funk up. When cops asked questions, 827 00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:47,840 Speaker 1: you start with I'm not discussing my day, and with 828 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,720 Speaker 1: I invoked the Fifth These ain't suggestions, these are words 829 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,680 Speaker 1: to live by, to memorize. See, it's not about the 830 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,719 Speaker 1: size of that cops gun because they want you to 831 00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:56,920 Speaker 1: run so they can pull that macho gun and shoot 832 00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,600 Speaker 1: you for fleeing the scene. Some cops are just play mean. 833 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,520 Speaker 1: We must shut it off, shut it down those feelings 834 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,000 Speaker 1: of anger that instantly come around when that cop has 835 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,280 Speaker 1: to show his power and his might without cause, without reason, 836 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 1: and we know they're not right. We must remain calm, 837 00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,759 Speaker 1: keep the devil sleeping on the left shoulder. We must 838 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,280 Speaker 1: be cold, even colder. Ice must flow through your veins 839 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,200 Speaker 1: to shut that heat, the blood that rusts your brain 840 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,920 Speaker 1: straight from your feet. When that cop disrespected you because 841 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,360 Speaker 1: you wouldn't tell him what that smell was, and he 842 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,719 Speaker 1: accooses you of a pot d ui because he absolutely 843 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,719 Speaker 1: knows that's you're buzzed. But see, they can't tell, and 844 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:33,200 Speaker 1: they don't know only if you tell them. So, Oh, officer, 845 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 1: I spoke to join a few hours ago. Officer, here's 846 00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:39,120 Speaker 1: my medical rest. Officer, I'm a marijuana patient. We live 847 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:43,640 Speaker 1: in America. Prohibition still exists. That cops gonna do whatever 848 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,520 Speaker 1: he's gonna do. He arrest you, give us a chance 849 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,040 Speaker 1: to represent you with the defense. That's blazing. Let us 850 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,719 Speaker 1: show you in court We're amazing. But we can only 851 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,359 Speaker 1: do that if you listen to our tips. Now, let 852 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,720 Speaker 1: me see you move your lips. You know the drill. 853 00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,920 Speaker 1: When the cops ask questions, we say, I'm not discussing 854 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,399 Speaker 1: my day. Am I being detained? Or have my free 855 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:07,960 Speaker 1: to go? I invoked the fifth and then you shut up. 856 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,279 Speaker 1: I got what I was gonna say. We have given 857 00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,040 Speaker 1: you the script. We are telling you what to say, 858 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,200 Speaker 1: we are telling you what to do. We've put your 859 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,920 Speaker 1: hands up in protection mode. But should you take a 860 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,759 Speaker 1: shot to the jaw, we will be fighting for the 861 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:28,120 Speaker 1: cannabis community because we are the Pop Brothers. So before 862 00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,080 Speaker 1: I forget, this is big brother, and I'm gonna say, 863 00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:33,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get the last question in um, but I 864 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:42,280 Speaker 1: can't remember it now because that was too fucking long. Actually, 865 00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,840 Speaker 1: what we have we have a twist to the script 866 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,920 Speaker 1: during the coronavirus. And imagine in your lifetime that you 867 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:52,680 Speaker 1: would ever be able when you get pulled over to 868 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,719 Speaker 1: tell the officer when he asked you. This is the 869 00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:57,480 Speaker 1: only time in the history of the script that you 870 00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,600 Speaker 1: go off script when you say, I'm not discussing my 871 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,120 Speaker 1: day and that's all you say. You don't say nothing else. 872 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,799 Speaker 1: You don't answer any questions. But if they ask you, oh, 873 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:06,640 Speaker 1: just shutdown. Order what do you cut? What are you 874 00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:10,919 Speaker 1: out for? You can actually say, I'm gonna go buy 875 00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,919 Speaker 1: Mike cannabis. It's essential. Imagine telling the cop I'm going 876 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,719 Speaker 1: to buy weed. I think it's great. Joe, what do 877 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,759 Speaker 1: you think? Do you guys talk too much? I think 878 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:25,719 Speaker 1: it's wanted. Frank, your thoughts. Mark Washerman's poem that he 879 00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,440 Speaker 1: gives his brother credit for because he says pop brothers 880 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:33,520 Speaker 1: a law. But that's all Mark Washerman. I liked it. 881 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,480 Speaker 1: It was good. Maybe we can turn into a rapp 882 00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:40,319 Speaker 1: or something. Well, Frank, we want to thank you for 883 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,880 Speaker 1: joining us on Cannabis Talk one on one. It's been 884 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,319 Speaker 1: amazing having you on the show. If you're listening out there, 885 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,239 Speaker 1: make sure you share this because it's important to hear 886 00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,000 Speaker 1: from leaders like this man right here. He's a legend 887 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,560 Speaker 1: in the game. Uh it's Cannabis Talk one on one. 888 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,960 Speaker 1: Remember this if no one else left you. We do 889 00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,000 Speaker 1: thank you for listening to Cannabis Talk one oh one 890 00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:07,240 Speaker 1: on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcast or wherever 891 00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:08,440 Speaker 1: you get your podcasts,