1 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: Hey, and welcome to the Short Stuff. I'm Josh, and 2 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 1: there's Chuck and this is short Stuff because Jerry's here 3 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 1: for Dave and we're talking about the neighborhood Watch. So 4 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 1: look out. 5 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 2: That's right. 6 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 3: I think the fact of this podcast is right off 7 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 3: the bat. Yep, Because if you've ever seen a neighborhood watch, 8 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 3: like the official neighborhood Watch sign is in the National 9 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 3: Neighborhood Watch program official organization. If you've ever seen that 10 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 3: sign and that I was going to say silhouetted, but 11 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 3: it's really just sort of a kind of a cartoony 12 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 3: black figure on those orange and white signs. It looks 13 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 3: very much like a film noir villain. That guy actually 14 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 3: kind of peering back over her shoulder. That dude has 15 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 3: a name, and it's Boris the Burglar. 16 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: Yep. 17 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 2: Very get nice little trivia point. 18 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think one of the things that fascinates me 19 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: about this and why I picked this one, And also 20 00:00:56,040 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: thanks to Terry Yarlegata and Adoya Johnson, the first from 21 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: How Stuff Works, the latter from the Howard University School 22 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: of Law. But like, when I see signs like that, 23 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: they seem like an urban archaeological find because they're from 24 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: the seventies, the very early seventies, and sometimes in old 25 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: neighborhood and you know, Atlanta's chuck full of old neighborhoods. 26 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: You can tell that sign was put up in nineteen 27 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 1: seventy two. Yeah, yeah, and that neighborhood watch probably hasn't 28 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: functioned for forty years, you know, And I just find 29 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: that super fascinating. So because of that fascination, I've dragged 30 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: us into the discussion about neighborhood watch as it is. 31 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 3: That's right, which was formed officially in nineteen seventy two 32 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 3: after a rise in crime in the late sixties. 33 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: Thank you leaded gas again. 34 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 3: The National Neighborhood Watch Program is the official name, and 35 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 3: that's under the umbrella of the National Sheriff's Association, and 36 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 3: it's a national organization in that they have guidelines. You 37 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 3: can get some information in pamphlets on kind of how 38 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 3: to run one in your neighborhood. Although so we'll see 39 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 3: that kind of depends on your neighborhood what you want 40 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 3: to do with this program. 41 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,519 Speaker 2: Sure, but they don't like there are way too. 42 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 3: Many neighborhood watch programs, you know, local ones for them 43 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 3: to really be involved in matter on a national level. 44 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 2: It's just sort of the umbrella organization. 45 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, which can be a criticism, as we'll see, but 46 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: the whole idea is basically, you can the cops can 47 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 1: get an assist from people who are kind of looking 48 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: for problems in their neighborhood, or at the very least 49 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: are on enough lookout that when it happens, they notice 50 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: it right, they don't just walk right past it, and 51 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: then you can call the cops, and then the cops come, 52 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: and then the burglar boris the burglars thwarted. And all 53 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 1: of this is kind of based on what's called the 54 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: Chicago School of social disorganization theory. It's a sociological theory 55 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 1: from the twenties and the thirties which basically says, if 56 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 1: you have a neighborhood that doesn't have very strong social ties, 57 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: so neighbors don't really know each other that well, they 58 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: don't trust each other that well, very little community control, 59 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: where people feel very confident about just committing crimes. That's 60 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: the most vulnerable kind of neighborhood. And so a neighborhood 61 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 1: watch essentially is meant to at least take care of 62 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,839 Speaker 1: the second one, where it's like, you know, we're going 63 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: to make sure you don't feel confident about committing crime, 64 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: but it doesn't necessarily fulfill the first one, which is 65 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: to bring communities together. 66 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. We should mention kind of briefly that 67 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 3: For a little while. After nine to eleven, the NSA 68 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 3: got a grant from the Department of Justice where they 69 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 3: rebranded as USA on Watch, where they're like, hey, not 70 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 3: only should you just be looking out for boris the burglar, 71 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 3: but you should be looking out for terrorists in your neighborhood. 72 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 3: But that grant ran out and they said, yeah, maybe 73 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 3: we should just stick to being a neighborhood to watch. 74 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it went from keeping an eye on your neighborhood 75 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: to spying on your neighbors. I think was essentially the 76 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: spirit of it. 77 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty read. 78 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: But this was the era when the postal workers, the 79 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: mail carriers, we're expected to spy on everyone. Yeah. It 80 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: was a very paranoid time, understandably, so it was a 81 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: really rough time for the United States. 82 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, some some would say there was a privacy grab 83 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 3: that happened, Oh I hadn't thought about that, or a 84 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 3: you know, a lack of privacy grab. 85 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: I guess no, I get, I get what you mean. 86 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: An intrusion, an intrusive intrusion. 87 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, take a break for saying it just right. 88 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: Yeah right, Let's take a break, man, and we'll come 89 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,559 Speaker 1: back and talk about whether these things actually prevent crime 90 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: in the first place. All right, we'll be right back, So, Chuck, 91 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:01,239 Speaker 1: the idea of neighborhood watch makes sense, but not everything 92 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: that is intuitively right actually pans out when put under 93 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: scientific scrutiny. It turns out neighborhood watch programs do hold 94 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: up under scientific scrutiny. At least one study from all 95 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: the way back in two thousand and six, not a 96 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:18,559 Speaker 1: lot of studies about neighborhood watch programs. Apparently, they found 97 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 1: eighteen other studies, and fifteen of those showed that neighborhood 98 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: watch programs seem to prevent crime, Like the neighborhood watch 99 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: program came along in a decline in crime happened afterward. 100 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: So it does seem like they can prevent crime. They 101 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: don't necessarily thwart crime in progress. 102 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 2: I guess yeah. 103 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 3: I mean they will tell you, and proponents of the 104 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 3: program will say, like, hey, just having that sign up 105 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 3: in your neighborhood is going to prevent crime somewhat because 106 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 3: you know, if a ne'er do well sees that you're 107 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 3: under neighborhood watch, they'll just move on to another neighborhood. 108 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know about that, but that's what they say. 109 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 1: Well, it makes sense, Like, especially a non professional who's 110 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: just like I'm going to break into houses, they might 111 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: give them a second thought. So and if it prevents 112 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: one burglary, it's a crime to trent. 113 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 2: Sure. 114 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 3: If you want to organize one of these things, you 115 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:20,799 Speaker 3: can recruit people and get together. 116 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 2: You can schedule some meetings. 117 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 3: You can get some local law enforcement in there maybe 118 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 3: to come to one of those meetings and kind of 119 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 3: discuss how these things go. If you're like a really 120 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 3: buttoned down neighborhood watch group, you might have an actual 121 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 3: liaison with law enforcement. You might have a group coordinator 122 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 3: and block captains and stuff like that. 123 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: They might have sashes. In the well funded neighborhood. 124 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 3: Watch group, they might they might even have patrols. And 125 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 3: this is where it can get a little dodgy. Yeah, 126 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:52,679 Speaker 3: because there have been plenty of instances in the United 127 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 3: States where these things have turned from sort of neighborhood 128 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 3: watch where you see something and you maybe called the 129 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 3: cops to people kind of acting on their own vigilanti style, 130 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 3: or people on their own calling the cops just because 131 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 3: someone is guilty of, you know, being a person of 132 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 3: color in their neighborhood. 133 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 2: That certainly happens all the time. 134 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it does. So you talked about a lack of 135 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: oversight and the fact that the National Neighborhood Watch Association 136 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: just doesn't they can't possibly keep up with them. I 137 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: think there's something like twenty twenty eight thousand neighborhood watch 138 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: groups that are registered right now, and probably a lot 139 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: of them are defunct, but there's still that's way too 140 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: many for this probably just paper thin funded organization to 141 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: keep up with. So they're just like, hey, you know, 142 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: they register with us, so we tell them best practices, 143 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: but if they turn into vigilante groups we don't know about, 144 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: it has nothing to do with us. Some people are like, 145 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's true. You're actually encouraging the 146 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: formation of these groups in the first place. You can 147 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: make an argument that a neighborhood would come up with 148 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: their own content of a neighborhood watch anyway, probably right, 149 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: So it does seem like the National Neighborhood Watch Association 150 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: is probably fairly at least not guilty. Their hands aren't dirty, 151 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: I guess, is what I'm trying to say. But even still, 152 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: they're quite aware that some of these neighborhood watch groups, 153 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: whether they're registered or not, do evolve INDI vigil anti groups. Yeah. 154 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 3: I mean, I think nationally their aim is pure. But 155 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 3: then when you get the wrong neighborhood and a wrong 156 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 3: group of people, like happened here in the state of Georgia, 157 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 3: you might have a neighborhood watch group targeting a family 158 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 3: that they don't like being there and sitting outside their 159 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 3: house and digging through their trash and photographing the family 160 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 3: and digitally audio recording them and monitoring their movements. That 161 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 3: has happened in Springfield, Missouri. The Klan set up a 162 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,839 Speaker 3: neighborhood watch and had signs saying neighborhood watch. You can 163 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 3: sleep tonight knowing the Klan is awake. 164 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. Other we talked about well funded groups too. Some 165 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: of them will use police scanners. Some of them even 166 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: have invested those flashing dome lights like all nake a 167 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: Gunyah or police squad for their cars when they're going 168 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: to respond to a report. 169 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not a cop. 170 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: Still, this is your neighbor who works in it during 171 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: the day and frankly drinks one or two beers too 172 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 1: many each night, showing up with a flashing light at 173 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: your front door because your neighbor across the street thought 174 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: that you were doing something suspicious or somebody was doing 175 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: something suspicious at your house. Yeah, that is not okay 176 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: under basically any circumstance. Again, like you said, the concept 177 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: is pure, it gets perverted way too easily because it 178 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: gives power to the people who want the power, because 179 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: those are the ones very often who volunteer for this stuff. 180 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. And you know, I talked about different 181 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 3: crimes that were committed. Of course, the most obvious is 182 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 3: when George Zimmerman killed Trayvon Martin, an unarmed black teenager 183 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 3: in Sanford, Florida, in twenty twelve. And Zimmerman, you know, 184 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 3: supposedly was a neighborhood watch volunteer. And I think their 185 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 3: neighborhood watch was not one of the official under the 186 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 3: National Neighborhood Watch at least a National neighborhood watches, like 187 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 3: they weren't us, right, but that's how far it can go. So, 188 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 3: you know, we want to keep our neighborhood safe, but 189 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 3: settle down. 190 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: Man, that was this seems like a lifetime ago, doesn't it. 191 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? 192 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 3: Man, yeah, that's it was sort of. I mean, what 193 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 3: twenty twelve? How many years ago is at thirteen? 194 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, right on the nose, so there is. Yeah, 195 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: there's nothing inherently wrong with keeping an eye on your neighborhood, 196 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: especially if it helps you meet some of your neighbors 197 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: and you guys work together to prevent people from breaking 198 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: into your homes or selling drugs on your street or whatever. Like, 199 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: it's totally understandable. It seems like, according to the National 200 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: Neighborhood Watch Association that the kind of the steps that 201 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: they've laid out since nineteen seventy two are not necessarily 202 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: fall But that doesn't mean that groups are just not forming. 203 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: They're forming in other ways through like text chains, like 204 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: you know, neighborhood text threads. There's a lot of neighborhoods 205 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 1: at Facebook pages. Next Door is a big one. Yeah. Yeah. 206 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: If you want to read some crazy off of the 207 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 1: chain stuff like go on to next door. It can 208 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 1: be pretty entertaining and then ring, which is that that 209 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: camera video doorbell, the first one I think now is 210 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: owned by Amazon. They partner with law enforcement and they're 211 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: really doing their best to fill in the gaps in 212 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 1: the police state. 213 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you're. 214 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 3: If you want to get one of these started in 215 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:41,599 Speaker 3: your neighborhood and want to be on the up and 216 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 3: up and do it the right way, you can go 217 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 3: to that National Neighborhood Watch website and get officially registered. 218 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 3: They will have some resources to kind of guide you along. 219 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 3: But again, you know, do it, do it the right way. 220 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 3: It's not a crime to just be in your neighborhood. 221 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 3: And you see plenty of, you know, the videos every 222 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:04,199 Speaker 3: day on social media where somebody, you know, sometimes someone 223 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 3: that does live in that neighborhood is even accosted because 224 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 3: they're a person of color who dares to park in 225 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 3: their own driveway and walk to their own front door. 226 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: That has happened before. Yeah, yeah, I think won't jeez 227 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: check the show stuffs out on that bomber note. 228 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:25,199 Speaker 2: I think, so okay. Stuff you should Know is a 229 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 2: production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts my Heart Radio, visit 230 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio app Apple podcasts, or 231 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: Wherever you listen to your favorite shows.