1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: of you hanging out with us. As we were rolling 3 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 1: through the third hour of the program. Buck'll be back tomorrow, 4 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: he's traveling. We have a photo shoot. Don't even get 5 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: me started on the three hour photo shoot that we have. 6 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: I didn't pick out my clothes. I wonder if Buck 7 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: picked out his. My wife doesn't trust me to pick 8 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: out my own clothes to get my photos taken. So 9 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: that probably gives you a good sense of my fashion sense. 10 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: As I'm sitting here in a T shirt and shorts 11 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: doing the show, Tulci Gabbert joins us. Now, Tulsi, do 12 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: you pick out your own clothes for photo shoots or 13 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 1: do you have a stylist? Do you think you have 14 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: good style? My wife has no faith in my style. 15 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 2: I'm laughing as I was hearing you say that I 16 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 2: don't have a stylist, But generally, if I'm doing something 17 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 2: fancy like that, I will ask my husband, and I 18 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 2: trust his case far more than I trust my own. 19 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 2: I'm sitting here in workout clothes as I'm talking to 20 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 2: you today, so we're good. 21 00:00:58,040 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 3: So let me ask you this, how long have you 22 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 3: been married. 23 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 2: We just celebrated our ninth anniversary. 24 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: Congratulations, We're about to celebrate twenty. My wife for twenty 25 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: years has asked me what should I wear to an event? 26 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: And for twenty years I've had no idea what to 27 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: tell her. Does does your husband give you good advice 28 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: on what to wear new events? I mean, it's actually 29 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 1: kind of curious because you have so many formal events 30 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: I would imagine and things to go to, like the 31 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,199 Speaker 1: whole concept of what to wear to things for women, 32 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: I have no idea. 33 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 2: It's a real problem. It's a real problem. 34 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 3: Clay. 35 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 2: I am of the mindset that in a you know, 36 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 2: in a twenty four hour period, and maybe you can relate. 37 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 2: We have a lot of decisions to make just in 38 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 2: the course of a day everything you know, what am 39 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 2: I gonna have for breakfast? Or what to far more 40 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 2: serious things, and so for me, I like to minimize 41 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 2: the decisions about what I wear to be as simple 42 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 2: as possible as why. One of one of the reasons 43 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 2: why when I'm on army duty in uniform like that 44 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 2: is that is the easiest thing. So I just I 45 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 2: keep it very simple. So if I have to break 46 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 2: out of my normal rotation of three suits or blazers 47 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 2: that I use. I do ask my husband. He has 48 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:15,519 Speaker 2: great tastes in just being able to tell like I 49 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 2: don't know. He has never steered me wrong. He's a cinematographer, 50 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 2: he's a musician, so he uses a different side of 51 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 2: the brain than I do. And it's always you know, 52 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 2: I just go for clean, classy and simple, and he 53 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 2: is on the mark anytime I have any question at all. 54 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: Tulsea Gabbert always finally dressed for the per appropriate thanks 55 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: to her husband having great taste. 56 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:38,519 Speaker 3: All right, let's dive into this. 57 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: CBS News supposedly VP debate July twenty third August thirteenth. 58 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: They haven't set a date officially yet. How bad do 59 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 1: you think you would massacre Kamala Harris if you got 60 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: the opportunity to go head to head against her in 61 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: a vice presidential debate? And how much, based on your 62 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: experience in twenty twenty race, would you relish that opportunity? 63 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: Be honest, is there anybody you would rather eviscerate in 64 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: a debate than Kamala Harris? 65 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:14,119 Speaker 2: You know I'm not one to hold personal grudges. However, 66 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 2: I can say based on the experience I had in 67 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 2: our interaction on a debate stage in twenty twenty, and 68 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 2: how surprised I was that her lack of preparedness to 69 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 2: address her own record that she was running on during 70 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 2: her presidential campaign. She was proud of her record, and 71 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 2: yet asking her some very simple questions about that record 72 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 2: completely blew her cover and showed how ill prepared she was, 73 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 2: and that has only been reaffirmed throughout her tenure as 74 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 2: vice president. So I would love to have the opportunity 75 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 2: to go toe to tode with her on a debate 76 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 2: stage that there is not a lack of material to 77 00:03:56,440 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 2: address given the substance of the failure of both President 78 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 2: Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris in their positions. 79 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: Doesn't it speak to how bad she is that despite 80 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: the fact that Joe Biden is objectively I think it's 81 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: fair to say, the worst president in most of our lives, 82 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 1: they are terrified at eighty two year old Joe Biden 83 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: stepping down because it would mean they would have to 84 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: elevate Kamala Harris, who has managed to somehow be worse 85 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: than Joe Biden despite the fact that he's the worst 86 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: president ever. I mean that really kind of sums up 87 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: the awfulness of their combination, doesn't it. 88 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 2: It does, and it point it points to the lack 89 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 2: of judgment obviously in President Biden knows around him. For 90 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 2: him to make a decision that he stated from the 91 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 2: outset would be purely based on identity politics reveals the 92 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 2: failure of that whole that whole premise. I think the 93 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 2: other thing that just came to mind, given their identity 94 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 2: politics is is I know this because it's the excuse 95 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 2: Kamala Harris uses every time anyone in the media dares 96 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 2: to point out her failures and her lack of preparedness, 97 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 2: she says, well, you know they are racist or they 98 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 2: are sexist. If I am going toe to toe with 99 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 2: her as a quote unquote woman of color on the 100 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 2: debate stage, I don't know how she uses that as 101 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 2: an excuse to cover up her inadequacy and in her 102 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 2: lack of qualification to serve in the current position that 103 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 2: she's in and to be literally one breath away from 104 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 2: the presidency. 105 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,799 Speaker 1: We're talking to Tulsea Gabbard, four term congresswoman, combat veteran 106 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: currently serving as a lieutenant colonel in the US Army Reserve, 107 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: and she has a best selling book for Love of Country, 108 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: which you'd encourage you guys to go check out Tulsea. 109 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: You grew up in Hawaii. I believe you are a 110 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: big surfer. I think we've talked about this before. Would 111 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 1: you have ever believed that men would be able to 112 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: identify as women and compete in surfing championships to win 113 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 1: women surfing championships as a woman who has grown up 114 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 1: surfing all over Hawaii? If you and I are around 115 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 1: the same age, if I had told you that was 116 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: going to happen in two thousand and three, two thousand 117 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: and four, twenty years ago, I think you would have 118 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: told me that I was crazy, and maybe I would 119 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 1: have agreed to make that argument. But now it's Democrat 120 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: standard orthodoxy. How do we get here? 121 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 2: It is? It's literal insanity, and I dedicate a whole 122 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 2: chapter in my book specifically to this topic, both because 123 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 2: of what the consequence is. I've spoken with a few 124 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 2: of the women who are currently on the World Surfing 125 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 2: Circuit tour and then expressing their frustrations because not only 126 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 2: is it completely unfair, there are two different divisions for 127 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 2: a reason, the physical capability of male surfers to be 128 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 2: able to paddle into some of the biggest waves in 129 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 2: the world is just different from the women. These women 130 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 2: are excellent beyond you know, I'm like I'm like in 131 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 2: kindergarten as a surfer compared to what these women are 132 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 2: doing and dominating around the world. However, they are different 133 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 2: for a reason, and if they speak up about it, 134 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 2: they will immediately see their sponsorships canceled and perhaps be 135 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 2: kicked off the tour. We see this because it happened 136 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 2: to Bethany Hamilton. Yea, she had her arm bit off 137 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 2: as a child, and so as a one armed surfing 138 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 2: woman she is still going out and competing and doing 139 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 2: things that I define. 140 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: Let me pause here for a moment with you, because 141 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: I want the Bethany Hamilton's story to me is so amazing. 142 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: If I ever got attacked by a shark, because I 143 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: think that's how she lost her arm right as a surfer, 144 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: she was attacked by a shark. 145 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 3: If a shark ever bid. 146 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: Me, if I had the tiniest little cut, ever, I'm 147 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: not sure I would ever go in the ocean again. 148 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: Can you imagine the bravery that it takes to lose 149 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: an arm? To a show and then get better and 150 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: go back out into the ocean with only one arm 151 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: to try to catch waves. I mean to me, that 152 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: is a bravery that's unparalleled in terms of athletics. And 153 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: she's speaking out and saying, hey, there's a big difference 154 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: between men and women. And it's like she's not even 155 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: being paid attention to by many people. 156 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 2: She's not, and worse, she's being retaliate against. And you're 157 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 2: absolutely right. I mean her courage and bravery as she 158 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 2: was healing from you know, the shark bit off her 159 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 2: arm very close to her shoulder, so there's nothing there 160 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,839 Speaker 2: really to work with. She doesn't use a prosthetic when 161 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 2: she's paddling. I don't even know if that's a viable thing. 162 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 2: But she was eager. I think she was twelve years 163 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 2: old when this happened. She was eager. It's amazing in 164 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 2: the water to pursue her passion and really what I 165 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 2: respect in her and her story. It's powerful for so 166 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 2: many reasons. But as you look at the courage she 167 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 2: exhibited them, and you look at the courage she exhibits 168 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 2: now as a mom of I think three kids now 169 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 2: competing in incredible waves around the world when she just 170 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 2: stood up and said men should not be competing against 171 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 2: women in surfing. Her decades long sponsor immediately canceled their 172 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 2: sponsorship for her, which is a way to earn her 173 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 2: livelihood to help support her family. And there's a thing 174 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 2: on International Women's Day that's become a tradition in surfing 175 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 2: where the male surfers, as they're competing, they choose the 176 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 2: name of a woman they admire and put it on 177 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 2: their jersey. In these past couple of years, multiple male 178 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 2: competitors chose Bethany Hamilton as the woman they most admire. 179 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:43,559 Speaker 2: And after Bethany Hamilton made that statement, the World Surf 180 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 2: League would not allow her name on these men's jersey. 181 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 3: Unbelievable, Like four or five. 182 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 2: Of them wanted to feature her, admire her, applaud her, 183 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 2: champion her, and they said, no, you are not allowed 184 00:09:56,280 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 2: to have this woman, this specific woman's name on your jersey. 185 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 2: I give for so much credit because she is continuing 186 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 2: to stand up and speak out for free speech and 187 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 2: for equality for women and girls and protecting women and 188 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 2: girls in surfing, in all sports. And I hope that 189 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 2: more women are willing to do the same and men 190 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 2: for that matter. 191 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 3: I think this is important. 192 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: I think I asked you this the last time you 193 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: were on your in consideration potentially to be vice president 194 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 1: or to be involved in the cabinet. You and I 195 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: have a similar political evolution. You were a Democrat. I 196 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: voted for Democrats, I worked for Democrats, and then I 197 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: finally just looked around, starting about six seven years ago 198 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: in real earnest and said, Democrats have lost their minds. 199 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: And I haven't really changed. I still believe pretty much 200 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 1: the same thing I always have, but I'm now considered 201 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: to be a right winger. And as I talked earlier, 202 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: people say, oh, I'm super controversial because I say things like, 203 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 1: you know, men's sports should only be made up of men, 204 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: and women's sports should only be made up of women. 205 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: I think there are tens of millions of people out there, 206 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: like you and me, who are persuadable to recognize that 207 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 1: things are broken in this country. They need to be fixed, 208 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: and much of the breaking is being done by the 209 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: left wing in this country. How many people do you 210 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: think are out there persuadable and how do you think 211 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: they respond to you when you make that argument? 212 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 2: Oh gosh, I mean millions to tens of millions of 213 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 2: people at a minimum. You know, my evidence is purely 214 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 2: anecdotal at this point. But I live out of a suitcase, 215 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 2: and I travel across the country, and I meet people 216 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 2: and hear from people every single day who say the 217 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 2: same thing that you just said, who resonate deeply with 218 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 2: my experience, in your experience, who are now being called 219 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 2: conservatives or right wing Republicans simply for standing up and 220 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 2: stating what is obvious in objective truth of biology, between 221 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 2: the differences between a man and a woman standing up 222 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 2: and saying that the government should not be censoring speech. 223 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 2: Free speech is free speech in America. That the government 224 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 2: shouldn't be weaponizing its institutions against its political opponents. That 225 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 2: our streets should be safe, and our police should be 226 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 2: allowed to do their jobs, our borders should be secure. 227 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 2: These things are not radical ideas, They are fundamentally American ideals. 228 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 2: And I specifically focused in my books about each chapter 229 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 2: dedicated to one of these major fundamental principles. And this 230 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 2: is where I see hope and opportunity in this election, 231 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 2: and where I've experienced my ability to connect with people 232 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 2: and let them know, hey, it's not only okay for 233 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 2: you to walk away from the craziness of the Democratic Party. 234 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 2: But we must seize this moment as Americans and fulfill 235 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 2: our responsibility as citizens to save our country and to 236 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:56,839 Speaker 2: defend our freedom and make sure we send President Biden 237 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 2: and Kamala Harris packing on election day. 238 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: Tulseie, you not only managed to write a best selling book, 239 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,839 Speaker 1: you did it without bragging about killing a puppy or 240 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 1: meeting Kim Jong un. 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Fight it in 269 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 4: the Clay and Buck podcast, feed on the iHeartRadio app 270 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 4: or wherever you get your podcasts. 271 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all 272 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: of you. Hanging out with us. Buck is traveling. You'll 273 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: be back with me tomorrow. We've got a huge, huge 274 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: photo shoot, which you just heard me mention with I 275 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: hate photo I'm gonna be honest with you. I really 276 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: hate getting my picture taken. I always joke that I 277 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: lead the nation in being on the road for college 278 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: football the number of guys who ask pretty girls to 279 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: take a photo of them with me. And the girls 280 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: are not used to taking pictures of their boyfriends, of 281 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: their husbands. They're the pretty ones, and they're like standing 282 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: there with the phone and they have no idea who 283 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: I am, and they're like, why why is my husband 284 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: or my boyfriend running over with this random bearded guy 285 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: that I've never seen before. 286 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 3: Who is this dude? Why does he want a picture? 287 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 3: He never asked me for pictures. That's me. 288 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: But I hate getting my picture taken. But if you 289 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: asked me to paint a picture, and that's what we 290 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: call an incredible transition in the radio business. You asked 291 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: me to paint a picture of pure evisceration and destruction. 292 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: Tulsie Cat Gabbard in a vice presidential debate against Kamala 293 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: Harris would be pure destruction Now, I'm not saying Trump's 294 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: gonna pick Tulsie. I'm not even sure where she is 295 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: on the list. I still think Tim Scott, in my opinion, 296 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: is the most likely selection that. 297 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 3: He's going to make. 298 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: But if you told me Clay picks someone just for 299 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: this matchup, just for the vice presidential debate, who you think? 300 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: And there are a lot of people that I think 301 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: could do it, but who could do it the best 302 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: to just we've already seen her do it once, but 303 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: one on one to just end Kamala Harris. I think 304 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: Tulsa Gabbard could do it. I really do, because, as 305 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: she pointed out, all Kamala really has is falling back 306 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: on I'm a black woman. It's racist and sexist for 307 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: anybody to question anything that I said. I mean, the 308 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: only reason she has a career is because she's a 309 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: black woman. So it's both shield and sword. You can't 310 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: mention her race or sex, but that is why she 311 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: has all of her power is because of her race 312 00:16:56,440 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: and sex. And I think Tulca Gabbard would just verbally 313 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 1: slay her. I don't think it would be remotely close. 314 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:10,199 Speaker 1: And can we mention the Bethany Hamilton thing? Can you 315 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: imagine if a shark bit your arm off and then 316 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 1: you went right back out into the ocean. I'm not 317 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 1: sure there's anyone in all of sports that has ever 318 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: been braver than that. 319 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 3: I said it to Telson, but I'm not kidding. 320 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: If a shark grazed me and drew blood from me, 321 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 1: I don't know that I would ever. 322 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 3: Go into the ocean again. 323 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: If a shark bit my arm off, I can guarant 324 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 1: damn t you I would never get in the ocean again. 325 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: I'm not sure i'd get in a swimming pool again. 326 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:47,199 Speaker 1: That's how scared of water I would be. 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And Abe, I want to start with this you. 354 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 1: I'm going to get into the Attorney General of Arizona 355 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: race with you here in a sec But first you 356 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 1: were a prosecutor. I'm sure you've been paying some attention 357 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: to the Trump case in New York City that Alvin 358 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: Bragg brought as a prosecutor. How would you analyze the 359 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,719 Speaker 1: case so far from your perspective. 360 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,959 Speaker 5: You're gonna be with you, Well, if you look at this, 361 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 5: you know, people always ask me about my legal analysis 362 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 5: on this case, and quite frankly, it's it's kind of 363 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:41,959 Speaker 5: difficult to do that because I think all of us 364 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 5: can recognize what is happening. It's a political witch hunty 365 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 5: case involved, you know, federal issues of election law that 366 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 5: was declined way back in twenty seventeen. But Alvin Bragg 367 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 5: what he did he brought the the third highest ranking 368 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 5: member of the Department of Justice to be this prosecutor 369 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 5: on this So from a I'm a former prosecutor Clay, 370 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 5: and I am ashamed of the legal system. And if 371 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 5: you're looking, it's not just in New York with this 372 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 5: one case. You see Letitia James, Fanny Willis, you have 373 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 5: Chris May's out here in Arizona. Then you got Jack Smith. 374 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:17,199 Speaker 5: And what really concerns me is these are attorneys who 375 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 5: are in their forties, fifties, and sixties who are this 376 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,199 Speaker 5: radicalized with this Mark societeology. What concerns me is this 377 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 5: new crop that's coming out of the universities, how committed 378 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 5: they are going to be to destroying our country in 379 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 5: the rule of law. So you know, this is this 380 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 5: is why Trump passed to win. And I know the 381 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 5: jury pool is very heavily favored in terms of the prosecution, 382 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,199 Speaker 5: just because it was overwhelmingly for Joe Biden. But if 383 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,679 Speaker 5: you look at Michael Cohen's testimony, he's a convicted liar 384 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,199 Speaker 5: multiple times. And I think the defense is doing an 385 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 5: excellent job on it. But you know, it's it's hard, 386 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,679 Speaker 5: but it's stacked against you so much. But I you know, 387 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 5: we have to pray and hope that the jury does 388 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 5: the right thing. But I think everybody, at least everybody 389 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 5: watching this, if they've seen any trials of this case, 390 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 5: they're they're looking at this as a witch hunting. I 391 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 5: think has only helped Trump in his election prospects. 392 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: I don't want you to dodge this because you're a politician, 393 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 1: and politicians are good at dodging questions. This is gonna 394 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 1: be maybe the most difficult question you get this whole campaign. 395 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 1: You went to Arizona State undergrad, you went to the 396 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 1: University of Arizona for law school. Who do you root 397 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 1: for when Arizona and Arizona State play and a tie? 398 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: And by the way, a tie is not an acceptable 399 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: answer at all, sir, No. 400 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 5: It's not. 401 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 2: I'm brutally honest. 402 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 5: Well, it depends which sport. My brother in law, he 403 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 5: was actually an NBA champion who played at ASU, Jeff Ayers, 404 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 5: So you know, with basketball it's probably ASU. But you know, 405 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 5: typically you of Baide does a lot better, but football 406 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 5: attends to be U of Bana. It really depends on 407 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 5: which sport it is. But I had a good time 408 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 5: at both schools. 409 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,120 Speaker 1: I saw the by the way, that is the typical 410 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: politician answer. Well, in football one thing, basketball another, so 411 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: both sides can be happy and angry simultaneously. I'm sure 412 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: you saw the video of the ASU frat guys clearing 413 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: up the Palestine protests and it went super viral. Intended 414 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: to be a negative, but a lot of people were like, hey, 415 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: good for those guys. Would you have believed when you 416 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 1: were at ASU and you were at the U of 417 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: A that it would ever get to the point where 418 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,360 Speaker 1: Jewish students didn't feel comfortable walking around campus. 419 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 5: No, and I think that's what's so scary right now, Clay, 420 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 5: is how how aggressively Marxists are. And I've always been saying, 421 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 5: what it's kind of an unusual alliance that's happening right now. 422 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 5: Right you see these I mean, these people have purple hair, 423 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 5: pink hair, they don't know what gender they are. They're 424 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 5: flying this LGBTQ flag along with hezbolas flags and Palestinian flag, 425 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 5: which is unusual, right, But this is what Marxism is. 426 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 5: It's stilled as contradictions. They're using the universities as their 427 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 5: training camps, they're using the media as their propaganda arm, 428 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 5: and they're using radical Islamis b Lem and Antifa as 429 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,959 Speaker 5: their military wing. So you know, in combination of all 430 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 5: those three things, it's a recipe for disaster. And what 431 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 5: you know, I applaud ASU and U of A has 432 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,479 Speaker 5: been cracking down a lot more aggress to believe in 433 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 5: other schools. And if you saw the frat boys at ASU, 434 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 5: there was almost sanctioned by the university. Actually the police, 435 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 5: the undercover police are basically telling them, hey, go do 436 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 5: the go do the dirty work for us. So I'm 437 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,479 Speaker 5: it's good to see that strong people you know, courage 438 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 5: is contagious, Clay, and I think that's what's important. We 439 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 5: have to stand for truth. We have to protect you know, 440 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 5: these you know we keep saying Jewishes, but these are Americans, Shuits, 441 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 5: these are our fellow Americans. And imagine if the the 442 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 5: same was in reverse where you saw people in his 443 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 5: jabs not allowed to go to campus classrooms. You know, 444 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 5: everybody when being up war. So we have to we 445 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,880 Speaker 5: have to be fair. We have to, you know, protect 446 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 5: our Jewish American students. And you know in Congress what 447 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 5: I want to do. I want to start going after 448 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 5: the universities. They're taking all this money from Qatar, China, 449 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 5: the Emirates, and that's the problem right now, is that 450 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 5: our universities are captured by foreign countries. 451 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: We're talking to Abe. I'm gonna get you right now. 452 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,199 Speaker 1: Your name correctly here, Hammaday. You can correct me if 453 00:23:58,200 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: I'm mispronouncing one of the things that I do on 454 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: the show. 455 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 3: All the time. 456 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 1: Abe has mispronounced everybody's name. I think I have the 457 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: worst phonetics on the planet. So hopefully I'm getting that right. 458 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: I want you to dive into because you know better 459 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: than anybody what's going on in Arizona. I'm sitting here 460 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 1: in Tennessee. Buck is usually down in Florida, and I'm 461 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: concerned that in twenty twenty four, the election's gonna come 462 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 1: down to a few thousand votes in Arizona. And we 463 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,439 Speaker 1: saw what happened in twenty twenty where it felt like 464 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,360 Speaker 1: it took a month to figure out what the vote 465 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: tally was going to be. You know better than anybody, 466 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 1: I would say, almost in the entire country in twenty 467 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 1: twenty two. You can tell the audience that may not 468 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: be aware how minimal the gap was between you being 469 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 1: the Attorney general of Arizona and you not and all 470 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: of the issues, particularly Americopa County, but certainly in other 471 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 1: parts of Arizona as well. Should we non Arizonas but 472 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: I'm sure Arizonas certainly want this as well. But for 473 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: people outside, have you guys fixed the election related issues? 474 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: Are you confident that in twenty twenty four we talked 475 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: to carry a couple days ago, you know this tell 476 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 1: us your attorney general experience in that race and what happened, 477 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: and should we be confident at all in the process 478 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 1: in Arizona. 479 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, that's a great question, and you're pronouncing my 480 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 5: name correctly, Clay, and I don't have an easy name 481 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 5: like you. At two first names. 482 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: I've actually got three Richard, Clay, Travis. And yes, that 483 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: causes its own issues, but yeah, tell us about the 484 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: attorney general process. 485 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 5: Absolutely. So in twenty twenty two here in Arizona, we 486 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,199 Speaker 5: all saw what happened with those machines going down. Ultimately, 487 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 5: you know, I supposedly lost my race by two hundred 488 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 5: and eighty votes out of two point five million, the 489 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 5: closest race in Arizona history, Clay. And there's still nine 490 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 5: thousand uncounted ballots from election day. And what's interesting about 491 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 5: that is a lot of these ballots that are not 492 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 5: counted are actually legitimate ballots. One of them is a 493 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,199 Speaker 5: husband of a state senator who's an Army veteran for 494 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 5: thirty years. Imagine his vote did not count, it was counted, 495 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 5: they classified as a provisional ballot. So and we overwhelmingly 496 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 5: one election day votes. So that's why those machines were targeted. 497 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 5: I believe they were targeted, and they went down in 498 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 5: my congressional district that I'm running, and it was hit 499 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 5: the hardest and it was a very Republican area with 500 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 5: the most amount of seniors in the entire state, and 501 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 5: those you know, those people can't wait in line for 502 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 5: that low And I tell people that I am not 503 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 5: confident about what's going to happen. I'm only confident that 504 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,479 Speaker 5: me and Terry Lake have been exposing all of this 505 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 5: here in Arizona. But unfortunately, the same people who ran 506 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 5: twenty twenty, in twenty twenty two in Arizona are still 507 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 5: in charge. However, I think a lot of these lawsuits, 508 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 5: you know, there has been good momentum with it. We 509 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 5: have a strong RNC chairwoman, We have a strong Arizona 510 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:42,199 Speaker 5: Republican Party chairwoman who's excellent on election integrity. So at 511 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,120 Speaker 5: least we're vigilant now, but we have to be guarded, 512 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 5: of course. But you know, with President Trump, I think 513 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 5: they're worried right now. Clay, in twenty twenty, the biggest 514 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 5: difference was there wasn't this rise of third parties. If 515 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 5: you remember, the Green Party was not on the ballot, 516 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 5: RFK Junior was on about So now you have this 517 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 5: combination of all these third parts. So I think it 518 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 5: becomes more difficult for the left to positively cheat in 519 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 5: this election. I tell folks, you know, how they're doing, 520 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 5: how they're rigging our elections. It's not just the voter roles, 521 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 5: it's not just the machines with the you know, going 522 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 5: down death by a thousand cuts. And that's something that 523 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 5: I've learned over the past two years, and that's why 524 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 5: I'm so excited. You know, I've endorsed by President Trump 525 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 5: and Kerry Lake because they know I'm a strong fighter. 526 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 5: I don't back down from this corruption. So when I 527 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 5: go to Washington, DC, it's going to be one of 528 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 5: my top priorities. But my race is July thirtieth, and 529 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 5: when I win my primary, it's a very Republican district. 530 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 5: I'm going to make sure we recapture the Senate by 531 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 5: getting Carry Lake elected, and we take back the White 532 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 5: House by getting President Trump elected. Because this is a 533 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 5: do or dielection, everybody recognizes it. And Arizona, You're right, 534 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 5: it was the closest state in the country and now 535 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 5: it's being headed by these Democrats and unfortunately some of 536 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 5: these weak made Republicans who don't want to acknowledge what's happening. 537 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 5: But look at just yesterday in Texas, a judge literally 538 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 5: just ordered a new election for twenty twenty two. I 539 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 5: don't know if you saw that, but you know, people 540 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 5: are starting to take election integrity much more seriously now, 541 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 5: and I think that's a good thing. We have to 542 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 5: really focus on it when we get to Washington, DC. 543 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: AB Appreciate the time. Two hundred and eighty votes. I 544 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 1: can't even imagine what that's like. We're rooting for you 545 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: guys all to take back Arizona, flip it back a 546 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: red and help to restore some sanity in the country. 547 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 1: Appreciate the time. 548 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 5: Thanks so much, Clay. 549 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 1: I want to tell you, speaking of you're talking Toda. 550 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: He's also in the military reserve and he's done incredible 551 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,159 Speaker 1: work there. 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You heard from Tulcy 581 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: Gabbert at the start of this hour, a lot of 582 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: reaction rolling into that the potential of her being a 583 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: vice presidential choice. I think many of you will enjoy 584 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: that discussion. And then you just heard from Abe Hammiday, 585 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: who I am trying to eventually pronounce his name correctly, 586 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 1: and that ties in with a VIP email from Sharon. 587 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 1: I get after Buck about this all the time. This 588 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: is Sharon, but you do it too. I don't even know. 589 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 1: I haven't even gotten into what she's going to say. 590 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: They just send it to me. I'm like Biden. If 591 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: they can put it in front of me, I'll read it. 592 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: Sharon's email. The minute you draw attention to the great 593 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 1: transition you've just made, it's broken. Can't you just take 594 00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: personal satisfaction in your accomplishment without making sure everyone sees it? 595 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: By golly, just as bad as your pronunciations now see, 596 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 1: I appreciate the email, Sharon. Some transitions are so crazily 597 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: apparent that I feel like you have to draw attention 598 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: to the transition. If it's totally seamless, you don't have 599 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: to draw attention to it. But when it's too self 600 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 1: evidently radio. And I'll give you an example. When I 601 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: first started in radio, I hate clickbait. I hate teasing, 602 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: and you'll probably notice on this show. In the radio 603 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 1: business they tell you as you go to break, you're 604 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 1: supposed to. 605 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 3: Tease the audience to captivate you. 606 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: And in sports talk radio they would always say, you know, 607 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,719 Speaker 1: you need to tell people that there's real news that 608 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 1: you're gonna have for them when you come back. And 609 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: my answer was that would infuriate me as a listener. 610 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: If you've got information, give it to me. You can 611 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: tell me greater context about it. On the other side. 612 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: But if I say, when we come back, you're not 613 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: gonna believe who just got kicked out of the game, 614 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 1: You'll be like, why didn't you just tell me who 615 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: got kicked out of the game, and then you can 616 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 1: tell me the details of it. See, I do radio 617 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 1: as if I were a listener. My goal is to 618 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,479 Speaker 1: make some of you. Be driving around in your car. 619 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 1: The nicest thing you can say to me is I 620 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: stayed in my car when I got to my destination 621 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 1: because I wanted to hear what was gonna happen next 622 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: to me. That's the ultimate endorsement that you can give 623 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 1: anybody in radio. People come up to me and they say, Hey, 624 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: you were interviewing so and so, or you were discussing 625 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 1: something and you told us you were gonna talk about 626 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: it more than you came back, and I wanted to 627 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: know what you were gonna say so bad that I 628 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 1: set in the parking lot of a shopping center that 629 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,719 Speaker 1: you were going to. Or you driving home from work 630 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: and you stayed in your driveway rather than get out 631 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: of your car because you wanted to hear what was 632 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 1: gonna happen next. That to me is great radio, because 633 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: I've done that. Sometimes as a listener, I'm saying, man, 634 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 1: I don't even want to get out of the car. 635 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: I've gotta hear what's gonna happen next. So sometimes when 636 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 1: the transitions are too radio like, I think as a listener, 637 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 1: I would like to have that made fun of. So 638 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 1: it's not really actually bragging on the transition. It's actually 639 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: making fun of the idea that you're going to have 640 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 1: a transition. It feels very radio. So you'll never really 641 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: hear Buck or Me say coming up next. 642 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 3: You're not gonna. 643 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 1: Believe what just happened. Just tell me tell me what 644 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: just happened. I don't need you to tease it. So anyway, 645 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 1: that's that analysis. And I gotta tell you a lot 646 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 1: of great calls, a lot of interesting discussion, and that's 647 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 1: why I would encourage you to go check out the 648 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,800 Speaker 1: check out the podcast and listen to what Harrison Buker said. 649 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 1: And we put in a request Kansasite Chiefs Kicker about family, 650 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 1: about the challenges that come with raising children, and what 651 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: I think is so important to kind of put a 652 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: capstone on our discussion in our conversation that we've had 653 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,399 Speaker 1: throughout the course of the show a lot of fun 654 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 1: today is there isn't always one right answer for every family. 655 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 1: You know, the best coaches out there, they don't treat 656 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: every player the exact same. You might have an overall 657 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:50,359 Speaker 1: framework of rules and those are important to apply, but 658 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 1: you can't reach every player the same way. Some are 659 00:34:56,239 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 1: more emotional, some are less emotional. A great coach figures 660 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:06,840 Speaker 1: out how to motivate everyone and understands that the same 661 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: motivation that works for one player might not work for 662 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 1: the other. So whenever someone says and I think this 663 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 1: is so important in our society, Harrison Bucker was doing 664 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 1: a commencement address. He's telling that audience, Hey, here's what's 665 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 1: worked for me in my life. Here's what's worked for. 666 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:25,840 Speaker 3: Me and my family. 667 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 1: Here's the advice that I would give you as you 668 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,319 Speaker 1: go out into the world, based on the life experience 669 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:36,880 Speaker 1: that I've had. You don't have to take everybody's advice, 670 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: and you don't have to presume that if you make 671 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 1: a decision different than someone else advises, that somehow that 672 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 1: is a personal attack upon you. We live in this 673 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 1: world now where every time somebody says anything, you have 674 00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 1: to feel. People out there feel compelled as if they 675 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 1: have to act. Harrison Butker said, for his family, his 676 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 1: wife staying home and being a homemaker has been incredible. 677 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,799 Speaker 3: He's so proud of her. He started to cry while 678 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 3: talking about it. 679 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 1: Almost and yet that doesn't mean that that has to 680 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:18,319 Speaker 1: be your family's experience. But I just want all of 681 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 1: you to think about Harrison Butker, who cried while talking 682 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 1: about basically how much his wife and her sacrifice has 683 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 1: meant to his family, is getting criticized more than he 684 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 1: would have if he had beaten his wife. And what 685 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 1: does that say about us that society is angrier at 686 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 1: Harrison Butcker for the words that he shared than they 687 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 1: would be for a player actually putting his hands on 688 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,719 Speaker 1: his wife and hitting her. That's a sign of how 689 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:54,359 Speaker 1: broken we are in society. Words are not as bad 690 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 1: as actions.