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Speaker 1: The volume.

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Speaker 2: I follow me, dude, Yeah, I am my king. Though

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Speaker 2: you know who that is?

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Speaker 3: I don't, And I don't know why you're.

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Speaker 2: Saying, because you know what season it is?

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Speaker 3: No wrestling, WrestleMania season.

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Speaker 4: As soon as the NC Double A Tournament stops is

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Speaker 4: WrestleMania season three weeks until I get to go to

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Speaker 2: That's the American Nightmare. Cody Raige, Cody Roads. You don't

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Speaker 2: know who that is?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's Dusty Roads. Dusty Roads had a great promo

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Speaker 1: called hard Times.

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Speaker 2: Yes, building a hard town. The son of a plumber,

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Speaker 2: The son of a plumber, Yes, that was the best. Hey,

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Speaker 2: his son is actually really good. He's the world champion

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Speaker 2: right now.

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Speaker 1: He was a real, real wrestler. Also, I think maybe

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Speaker 1: a state champion high school.

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Speaker 2: Oh you want to know who else is a great wrestler.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think it's a handful him.

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Speaker 4: I was trying to wait real quick, real quick, guys.

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Speaker 4: Today's episode is brought to you by Total Wildace, the

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Speaker 4: unlimited five G data that will not slow you down. Now,

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Speaker 4: that is a total power move. But you know what

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Speaker 4: else is a total power move? You know it's an

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Speaker 4: amazing wrestler.

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Speaker 3: Huh who?

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump?

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Speaker 4: Kobe, Kobe coming, Kobe Comington zend seriously, No, seriously, Kobe Covington, ZI,

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Speaker 4: he's an amazing wrestler.

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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, gracious, you don't believe? I think I so?

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Speaker 1: I do believe he actually wrestled for a year or

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Speaker 1: two in high school? Do I believe he's a good wrestler?

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Speaker 1: And it's highly online?

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Speaker 2: So why would Cody say he's no good? Why would

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Speaker 3: Can you believe half the things that come out of

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Speaker 3: Kobe's Okay.

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Speaker 4: So let me ask you this about Kobe Covington. No, no,

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Speaker 4: that we're talking about Kobe because I actually like Kobe.

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Speaker 2: I don't mind him at all.

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Speaker 4: I know that he's He was just kind of caught

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 4: He was saying that it was you and I know

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Speaker 4: know him as well as I did. We recruited him

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Speaker 4: when I was at Oklahoma State. Uh yeah, Yeah, he

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Speaker 4: was college kid, maybe acrunity college kid.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you recruited him, Kobe. Kobe was really on.

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Speaker 4: The president, like, he was really like on that topic,

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Speaker 4: and it almost felt like he had to be on

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Speaker 4: the White House. But now he's not, Like do you

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Speaker 4: Because now he was so like vocal. It almost felt

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Speaker 2: And then he didn't. Been like do you feel bad

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Speaker 2: for him? Oh?

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I feel bad for him, but

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Speaker 1: it definitely seems like he's going off on the UFC

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: I actually asked you about the comment where he said

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Speaker 3: That's not true though, but that's that's what I said.

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Speaker 3: I said it wasn't true, and I confirmed it with

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Speaker 4: Kobe said that the UFC doesn't pay you for using

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Speaker 2: In the game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, alias find the tweet or something put it up there,

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Speaker 4: Do get you you do get paid for using your character,

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Speaker 4: but it's based on the amount of times you're getting used.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I got a one million dollar check.

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Speaker 2: Oh you're so crass.

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Speaker 3: No I didn't. I didn't. It was I didn't get

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Speaker 3: Like, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It's nice, so Kobe said.

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Speaker 4: College football players getting cuts from NCAA football, but UFC

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Speaker 4: fighters don't get no cuts from many of their royalties.

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Speaker 4: It's crazy UFC. Once you sign a contract, they have

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Speaker 4: curtain back a little bit. First off, on the video game,

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Speaker 4: like guys like Justin Gaegee, Iliot, the Pouria Perira, those

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Speaker 4: let me run this down for you. So the UFC

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Speaker 2: Royalties.

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Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, you get a paper and it's literally every single.

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Speaker 4: It's like, if you sell a T shirt, it sends

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Speaker 2: A paper check.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, would get my statement with all of the counting

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Speaker 4: But you're right, it feels like Kobe is reacting angrily,

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Speaker 4: seems not. And you're right most times when that happens,

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Speaker 1: I mean, like, I kind of I don't know if

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Speaker 1: I I don't blame UFC, But this is a guy

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Speaker 3: He fought just pulled up his record.

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Speaker 1: He fought one time in twenty twenty one, time in

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Speaker 2: No, he fought last year, he fought Jacky Buckley. Was

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Speaker 2: that in twenty four?

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Speaker 1: That was December twenty four, and then he fought Leonawards

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Speaker 1: last well that was twenty twenty, that's last six years.

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Speaker 4: Was he overvaluing Was he overvaluing himself because those Kamara

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Speaker 4: Who's Smart fights were big fights? Was he overvaluing himself?

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Speaker 4: Like his idea of who he was to the product

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so the Usbin fights were nineteen and twenty, Well,

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Speaker 1: he fought him in twenty eighteen and in twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 3: Wow, So it is quite a while ago.

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Speaker 1: And when you don't stay active, when it's less than

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Speaker 3: The hold up.

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Speaker 4: Now, let me ask you this, okay, on the pay stuff. Obviously,

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Speaker 4: Other day where Brendan Schobs said, the fighters just say

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Speaker 2: And I'm just asking you a serious question. If they go, well, we're.

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Speaker 3: But I don't think that's the question. So number that

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Speaker 2: It would have to be one hundred. It would have

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Speaker 4: It would have to be one hundred percent of people

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Speaker 4: and it's going to be more than just one, right,

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Speaker 4: It'll be a few of them going, well, I'm not

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Speaker 4: a few of those, it doesn't really affect it, right.

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Speaker 3: So I correct.

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Speaker 1: So I think two things on that question I refra

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Speaker 1: slay is how many can actually do it right? How

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Speaker 1: many aren't living paycheck to paycheck and get a job

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Speaker 1: tomorrow because how many can set out for a year?

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Speaker 3: That's what the answer. The answers are really.

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Speaker 1: Small number, a really small number actually a year. And

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Speaker 2: Are irreplaceable, there's less. There's less than that. I believe that.

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Speaker 3: Right, So you have.

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Speaker 4: So it's fifteen million. You think they would fight for

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Speaker 3: And then that's why we've seen a lot of them go.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question. You have how many academies.

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Speaker 3: Now we got we're up and we started eight nine,

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Speaker 4: How do you guys pay those managers based on their sales?

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Speaker 2: So I started with the UFC, and as I sold more,

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Speaker 4: Big thing that when the person running the business as

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Speaker 4: so the players get what they get.

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Speaker 4: Our businesses but even the teams don't ben The teams,

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Speaker 4: Boxing from that they are fighting with right now. Say

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Speaker 4: You and I run our businesses almost the exact same way.

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Speaker 4: But I also do want fighters to make more money,

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Speaker 4: Like NBA guys, NFL guys, that would be great to

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Speaker 3: So I try to always be fair. But Daniel, I

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Speaker 1: You've known me for a really long time. I've been

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Speaker 3: I honestly, Daniel to me, I don't know her. I

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00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:50,800
Speaker 3: don't know. If maybe I had an interaction with her

444
00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:52,520
Speaker 3: at some point, I don't. I don't recall. But that's

445
00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,159
Speaker 3: how she's always came off as.

446
00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,080
Speaker 2: Like kind of man. She's not. She's kind of me.

447
00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:01,760
Speaker 1: Entitled, arrogant, looking it, always looking at the negative side

448
00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 1: of things versus having gratitude and taking appreciation for the

449
00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,440
Speaker 1: positive things in your life. So she's always came off

450
00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,800
Speaker 1: that way to mean, and it's always been off putting.

451
00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:13,000
Speaker 1: And then you know someone who wouldn't face the music

452
00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,480
Speaker 1: when the music came her way, you know, when she

453
00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,040
Speaker 1: was on top saying, oh I'll beat I'll beat men

454
00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:19,879
Speaker 1: in a fight like okay, yeah, right, and then you

455
00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:23,000
Speaker 1: get your ass kicked by Holly and freaking Amanda and

456
00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,000
Speaker 1: then you go hide and don't talk to anyone for

457
00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,000
Speaker 1: six months, Like I don't know that was.

458
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not a huge fan.

459
00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:33,800
Speaker 1: I think the personality type is really negative and yeah,

460
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:34,439
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know.

461
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,000
Speaker 3: Maybe I don't want I don't want to say too

462
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:36,720
Speaker 3: many negative.

463
00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:38,919
Speaker 4: Yes, you're not a big time fanily around this. I

464
00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:40,480
Speaker 4: mean she's actually a really nice.

465
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,679
Speaker 2: Girl, like you just don't know her. I've never seen that.

466
00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:43,840
Speaker 3: I never see that.

467
00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:46,159
Speaker 4: Team with her, and I kind of know her like

468
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,080
Speaker 4: behind the public.

469
00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,840
Speaker 3: Wait, oh wait, she was.

470
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Speaker 2: On the old fourteen oh eighteen eighteen.

471
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Speaker 3: I don't remember her there. I don't remember No. Four.

472
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Speaker 2: She was on a four. No o wait oait, yeah

473
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 2: I don't.

474
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:04,960
Speaker 3: I don't remember seeing her at all. On the Olympic.

475
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:06,360
Speaker 2: She was on the Olympic team.

476
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 4: She was like a big time star, like people like

477
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 4: really knew she was because she was so young and

478
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:11,919
Speaker 4: she was so good in her sport.

479
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:12,840
Speaker 2: Uh.

480
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Speaker 4: They announced their full card this weekend before the fight.

481
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Speaker 4: Uh what do you what do you make of it?

482
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:26,120
Speaker 4: I mean, you got you got Junior dos Santos card

483
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 4: for sure, Makiah is fighting, Loren's Larkin is fighting.

484
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,439
Speaker 1: I think they did a good job of going to

485
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Speaker 1: get who was available. Makaiah versus Adriana Marice. I think

486
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:42,159
Speaker 1: that's a good fight. Rice so one one championsiply.

487
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 2: With chances that's the guy to be Demetrius right the

488
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 2: one time, just.

489
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Speaker 1: One time, and then I think the Metrice Beahim twice though,

490
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Speaker 1: So I mean that's a good card. I think getting

491
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Speaker 1: for instance, Ghan who was a big name.

492
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Speaker 3: I think people are.

493
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 1: Excited about Nate Diaz versus Mike Perry, Jason Jackson, Lorenz

494
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Speaker 1: Larkins a pretty good one.

495
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

496
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Speaker 1: Why did the guy that's fighting Junior Dosantos, the uh,

497
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:05,400
Speaker 1: the keeping guy?

498
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 3: Why did he make it? Because he did get me

499
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Speaker 3: a correct.

500
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Speaker 4: He dude, he fought like he was Remember he was

501
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,359
Speaker 4: like he was like very very young in his career.

502
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 4: He fought a couple of times, beat people in like

503
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Speaker 4: no time, and then all of a sudden, he was

504
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,440
Speaker 4: he was gone. I don't know, I don't know, I

505
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 4: don't know what happened. Like he just he wasn't very good.

506
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 2: Honestly, I'm being completely he wasn't very good.

507
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 3: He was everything else.

508
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 4: Remember he was like knocking people out, like all on

509
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 4: the regional scene and like real quick.

510
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.

511
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 4: And so then when he got there he struggled. He

512
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,400
Speaker 4: struggled by somebody beat him. I think I only lost

513
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:39,160
Speaker 4: once though, in New York.

514
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 3: And then he lost twice, and well, he won one,

515
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 3: and then he lost twice in a row. He lost

516
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 3: to Waldo coch Costa, who he's pretty good.

517
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,400
Speaker 2: He's actually become really really good.

518
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:50,639
Speaker 3: And then he lost to a guy I don't know

519
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 3: named Austin Lane.

520
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 4: Oh god, Austin Lane. He got beat by him. He

521
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 4: was the guy that used to play in the NFL.

522
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 4: Austin Lane is the guy from Jackson Lyde. He goes

523
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Speaker 4: he comes out to from Jacksonville and it's in Duval County.

524
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 4: So every time he fights John and it goes du

525
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 4: all like, it's really cool.

526
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Speaker 3: Rook, Wisconsin. I never heard of this freak.

527
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 4: He played for the Jaguars. He played for the Jacksonville Jaguars.

528
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 4: I thought he was from Jacksonville Jaguars.

529
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Speaker 3: Dude, he's from Wallack County, Wisconsin.

530
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Speaker 2: Baby, Oh my god, I got black people there.

531
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Speaker 3: That's the one thing I huh. You know one thing

532
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,160
Speaker 3: I was surprised about, Daniel, I've.

533
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 4: Got that many black people Wisconsin. Stop, don't lie.

534
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:38,880
Speaker 3: Hold on, I'm gonna tell you.

535
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Speaker 1: Okay, So in Wisconsin, if you go to the Wisconsin

536
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 1: Wrestling State tournament and there's a black dude, he's almost

537
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Speaker 1: certainly from metro area Milwaukee.

538
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

539
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, Almost no black.

540
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Speaker 1: People in any type of rural place. And when I

541
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 1: went to Stop Big seriously, there's a couple. But when

542
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,959
Speaker 1: I went to Missouri, so okay, So like Division one,

543
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Speaker 1: that's the big school Division one content, you'll see the

544
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 1: black dudes there, but you won't see him in Division

545
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 1: two or three where the small communities are. And I

546
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 1: went to Missouri and then they were spread out among

547
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:12,160
Speaker 1: all the divisions where they're in rural areas and urbaneurs.

548
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 3: I thought, oh my god, I didn't know.

549
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 1: That existed because I grew up in the content where

550
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 1: it's very segregated.

551
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 3: How crazy is that?

552
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,400
Speaker 2: You're like, oh, god, black people, you heard.

553
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker 3: No, I've I went down to the city into the

554
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Speaker 3: y m C.

555
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 1: A back, there wasn't a lot of wrestling opportunities that

556
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Speaker 1: would go go.

557
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 3: Mcs had some open maths yeah. Literally it is.

558
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Speaker 1: It's segregated where there are not a lot of black

559
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Speaker 1: people in non metro areas.

560
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Speaker 2: You know what I told my daughter yesterday. This is

561
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:44,120
Speaker 2: the funniest thing.

562
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 4: I said, you know, you have like a bit of

563
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 4: a superpower. She goes, what, I go, you're black.

564
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 2: She's what does that mean? I said, You'll start doing

565
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 2: random things that you don't know how to do. I go,

566
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 2: I do it all the time.

567
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,080
Speaker 4: I said, I beat Steve Amy Oachi's playing hockey and

568
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 4: I don't even know how to skate. She goes, wait, Dad,

569
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 4: what do you do? I just kind of like age

570
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 4: into it at like sixteen or something.

571
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 2: I go, no, it just happened.

572
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,919
Speaker 1: You just have like this thing inside of you.

573
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 4: Hockey, Bro, I won a dude, I do stop. Bro,

574
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 4: we were playing hockey.

575
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 3: I can't.

576
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:24,919
Speaker 2: I can't. I can't listen. I can't. But my black

577
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:25,639
Speaker 2: took over.

578
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 4: I swear to God, Ben, I'm telling you, but I'm

579
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 4: just trying to tell you, like be like I'm telling you.

580
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 2: The athleticism that is embedded in me took over. Bro.

581
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 4: I hit four every Ben, every time I hit the pup,

582
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 4: I would fall down. It was going in between Stepe's

583
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 4: legs and it was like it was going in. So

584
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 4: then then then I had to go play goalkeeper, right.

585
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 2: Because I had to stop him.

586
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,640
Speaker 4: So once I got to go play goalkeeper, they had

587
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 4: all this stuff on me.

588
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 2: I couldn't even stand up. I had to hold onto

589
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 2: the net. Right. Yeah, but Bro, he makes like the

590
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,400
Speaker 2: first three. We're going to ten. Now I made four.

591
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 2: He makes the first three.

592
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,959
Speaker 4: All of a sudden, I like, I was like, I

593
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 4: need to compete, and I was like, okay, trying to

594
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 4: like call on that thing that's inside of me.

595
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 2: Bro. I stopped seven in a row to beat him.

596
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 2: I stopped seven in a row to beat him.

597
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:28,959
Speaker 3: I swear to guy, yes it is no, it's you.

598
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 2: No, no, because guess what. No, I'm telling you, Bro,

599
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 2: I'm telling you like I just I just sometimes do stuff.

600
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 4: I'm telling you, Luise put the clip on like of

601
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 4: me and Steve a.

602
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,439
Speaker 2: You because there's no reason I should be able to

603
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 2: do that. So you don't think like, okay, okay whatever.

604
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 4: That's why whenever people, that's why whenever, like guys would

605
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 4: be doing commentary like it might Goldberger say something like

606
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 4: he's such an athlete, and then all the fans be like, oh,

607
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 4: he means he's black.

608
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 2: The other thing is that.

609
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: I don't want Oh man, I don't want to burst

610
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 1: your bubble or make your head a little bigger here, Dan,

611
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: But you know you're a good athlete, right, Like you're

612
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: an Olympian.

613
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 2: I can beat Luis.

614
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 3: Why you do things not just because you're black? Like what, like,

615
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 3: why is that your first guest, Danielle?

616
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 4: No, because I'm telling you I was thinking about it.

617
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,479
Speaker 4: I was laying down. I was like, man, there's been

618
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 4: some times in my life where I should not have

619
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,919
Speaker 4: been able to do these things. But there's like something

620
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 4: in me that just like comes up. My daughter literally,

621
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,199
Speaker 4: my daughter goes, wait, so do I just kind of

622
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 4: age into it? Dad, at like sixteen, I was like, no,

623
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 4: it just happens. I go there's a reason when you

624
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 4: do a backflip, you like fly through the air.

625
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 3: As high as anyone.

626
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 2: It's like so funny. She's like, oh my.

627
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 3: God, Dad, I'll ridiculous.

628
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 2: It's kind of crazy. Like if you and I played basketball,

629
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 2: I would kill you. Yeah, if you and I started, I.

630
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 3: Can't play basketball. I'm not good. You played. But if

631
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 3: you and basketball, but you've played.

632
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 4: But if you and I started basketball at the same time.

633
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 4: I would still be better than you. As time went on, I.

634
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: Could barely walk out a dead to eat you as golf,

635
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 1: Like where was your black on?

636
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 3: That one?

637
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 2: Bro? Was the first time I ever did it.

638
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 4: If I played, if I played disc golf five times,

639
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 4: I would be able to beat you five times.

640
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 3: No, you would five times?

641
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 2: Five times?

642
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 3: No, five times.

643
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: Right now, right now, in my current state, which is

644
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 1: not my physical prime, I will kill you in disc.

645
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 2: Golf five times if you give me five times. So

646
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 2: so you know why the argument started.

647
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 4: You know why I started thinking about this because I

648
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 4: was wondering to myself. I'm like, why in the world

649
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 4: is it taking me so long to get better at golf?

650
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 4: Because now I've been playing for five years, and I'm like,

651
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 4: how do I suck so bad still when I've got

652
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 4: like a five year plan?

653
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 2: Right? Like, Bro, like five years been like five years

654
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 2: has been the key to my life? Like, so five

655
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 2: years right? This is seriously. I started playing football in

656
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:04,719
Speaker 2: eighth grade.

657
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 4: Okay, by the time I graduated five years, I was

658
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 4: one of the best players in the state of Louisiana,

659
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 4: first team All State everything. But in two years I

660
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 4: started getting better wrestling seventh grade. I think I started right,

661
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 4: not very good by tenth grade. I'm third in the

662
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 4: world Mixed Martial Arts two thousand and nine. At the

663
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 4: end of the year I started fighting five years twenty fourteen.

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Speaker 4: Not only am I to Strike Force Champ, I'm the

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Speaker 4: You five years. It's always been five years. But in

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Speaker 3: Wow, you're something special.

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Speaker 2: But why why?

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Speaker 2: I can beat you in five.

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Speaker 4: I can beat you in five, Like I really believe

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Speaker 4: that I could come.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I can't beat you, but I bet.

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Speaker 3: You'll be like, well years or five times five times?

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Speaker 2: Yea, man, I tell you something. I got to tell

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Speaker 3: Because it wasn't like you got really close to me.

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Speaker 3: You make me feel good. Like Ben, you didn't get close.

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Speaker 2: Listen, you were kind of messed up at the time.

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Speaker 3: So I was using a walker.

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Speaker 2: All right before I let you go.

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Speaker 4: Congratulations on Mitchell, mess and Brink unbelievable tournament last week.

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Speaker 4: RIF is coming up. I don't know what you guys

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Speaker 1: Actually, actually they didn't get you your ticke yet. We

746
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Speaker 1: were hiring you to referee the main event. So nothing

747
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Speaker 1: Noceannigan's happened.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going there. Hey, what are you gonna do?

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Speaker 3: W W?

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Speaker 2: I did? I did? I did?

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Speaker 3: You did?

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Speaker 4: I got a secret, though, I got a secret.

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Speaker 2: I got a secret for you? What it was kind

755
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Speaker 2: of stage like you. I was so mad.

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Speaker 3: I was so mad.

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Speaker 2: I was so mad. I was so mad. It was

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Speaker 2: kind of staged.

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Speaker 3: Okay, did you know stop? Did you know?

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Speaker 2: No? Did you know?

761
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Speaker 3: Did you know, did I know what that? It was?

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Speaker 2: Stage?

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Speaker 3: Which part?

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Speaker 2: I mean, the whole thing is stage what? What? What?

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 2: Not?

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Speaker 3: No comment, there's no comment.

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Speaker 2: I love it. I still love it now.

769
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 4: But like now, there's like a show on on w

770
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 4: It's called WW in real way, you see every day

771
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 4: it's like it's staged.

772
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: So I have my own YouTube channel, asking Wrestling Academy.

773
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: I'm making these wrestling videos not as well produced. You know,

774
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Speaker 1: I don't got a little wise for me. I just

775
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Speaker 1: flip on my camera and go. You know what video

776
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: I made yesterday, Daniel, You're gonna watch this so you

777
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Speaker 1: can watch it. I made a video about how the

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Speaker 1: Okoma State Cowboys are gonna challenge depends Y Nitty Lions

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Speaker 1: for national title next year.

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Speaker 2: Two probably about two years, probably about two years.

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Speaker 3: Go listen to my argument, right, I'm gonna go.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go listen to it. But hey, dude, I

783
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Speaker 2: know you love him. We're gonna he gonna take you

784
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Speaker 2: the funky town. He gonna take you.

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Speaker 1: He's been so ridiculous this morning. I don't know what's wrong,

786
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Speaker 1: but I have to leave. I can't take you anymore.

787
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Speaker 2: Where are you going?

788
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Speaker 3: It's somewhere.

789
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Speaker 1: But you're talking about how the black helps you, not

790
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Speaker 1: that you're an elite athlete talking about scripted stuff.

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Speaker 3: I mean, oh my goodness, Jack Force, Jack Force, and

792
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Speaker 3: Sergio Megan. He's pretty amazing.

793
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Speaker 4: Landon Robadeo, he's pretty good too, Cody Merrill. Four freshman finalists.

794
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Speaker 4: That was a good weekend. Hey did you see Cale

795
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 4: say that at least they follow the rules. What was

796
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Speaker 4: he talking about?

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Speaker 1: Well that I got some guesses. I don't want to

798
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Speaker 1: make any accusations.

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Speaker 2: You care to go on record?

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Speaker 3: I mean, listen here, here's what I'll say. I'll say.

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Speaker 2: Please give me.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty obvious, Daniel. If someone's not a threat to you,

803
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Speaker 1: you don't comment on them. So Cale Sanderson is not

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Speaker 1: making a comment about Cleveland's date wrestling or camp.

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Speaker 2: Maybe he's talking about Iowa. They're in a big ten

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Speaker 2: this year.

807
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Speaker 3: Huh did they threaten them at all this year?

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Speaker 4: I can't say we threatened them all that much. We

809
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Speaker 4: lost about forty something points.

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Speaker 1: No, but you see a trajector. Y Kal's smart. He

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Speaker 1: ain't looking at one year. He's looking at trajectories, right,

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Speaker 1: What are the trajectory? Oh ship, these guys had four

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Speaker 1: in the finals, and they're all freshmen. They have three

814
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Speaker 1: more years of all four of those guys, plus a

815
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Speaker 1: guy like de Lockett, who's really good. Didn't even didn't

816
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Speaker 1: even place right, Like, that's probably not gonna happen. I mean,

817
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,280
Speaker 1: maybe it happens again, but probably probably not gonna help.

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Speaker 2: It ain't gonna happen again. Next week.

819
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Speaker 1: The rings coming in, like you know there, So he's

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Speaker 1: looking at trajectories, and so I think.

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Speaker 2: Dre Shawn compete next year.

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Speaker 1: He can well you know what, Daniel, I don't know

823
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: if you looked at so this NCA tournament was all

824
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 1: about the younger generation. There's a lot of young people,

825
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: but there was one way class for the upper upper

826
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Speaker 1: classmen dominated and that was heavy first to fourth rough

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Speaker 1: all seniors.

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Speaker 3: And I think.

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Speaker 2: There's two a year left.

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Speaker 1: No, correct, he does a year left, but there's I

831
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Speaker 1: believe there's only two underclassmen in there, maybe Ferrari and Keeter.

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Speaker 1: I think because Condor Jussette was a senior. Also, you know,

833
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Speaker 1: most of the heavyweight class goes away. So yes, I

834
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Speaker 1: absolutely think he could compete next year. I think they'll

835
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Speaker 1: probably start him as my guess. Yeah, so I think

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Speaker 1: Kal's comment can only be taken against one person, and

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Speaker 1: that's Oklhama State.

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Speaker 3: That's my only subject. I don't pay. I don't know

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Speaker 3: what the rules are. I don't know why the.

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Speaker 1: NCAA still has rules at this point, because it doesn't

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Speaker 1: seem like any anything all the rules. So when he's

842
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Speaker 1: referred to the rules, I don't know what he's talking

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Speaker 1: about because I don't know the rules.

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Speaker 3: People.

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Speaker 4: At this point, it feels like everybody's paying some paying somebody.

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Speaker 4: Last thing before I let you go, Hey, give it

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Speaker 4: up for my boy Tom Brands. Though they talk about

848
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Speaker 4: they're gonna fire Tom Brands.

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Speaker 2: Seven all Americans, I said.

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Speaker 3: People are trying to roast me. Danielle. You can go

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Speaker 3: look at my video.

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Speaker 1: Prior to it, I said, I said they would have

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Speaker 1: six all Americans and they were to take fifth place.

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Speaker 1: They had seven. They took fourth place. I missed, but

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Speaker 1: I wasn't all that. Wait, hold on, I got what comment.

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Speaker 1: I think Iowa fans were even more negative on their

857
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: own team than I was, and that's why they were

858
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Speaker 1: excited when they did pretty well.

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Speaker 4: They did good, and hey, the twenty five pounds, the

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Speaker 4: loss of somebody from writer.

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Speaker 2: And then the zero Bailey didn't place. They could have

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Speaker 2: had nine all Americans.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was going to be I thought I

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Speaker 1: thought the six were gonna include Peterson and this here Bailey.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then I was surprised.

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Speaker 2: By Peter Rider, Brock and Keeter.

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Speaker 3: Well no, and then gave gave Arnold is the biggest game.

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Speaker 2: Arnold.

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Speaker 1: He had a terrible big tens and then he really

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Speaker 1: he actually started getting takedowns and matches, which that if

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00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 1: you watch his season, that's not really the case.

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Speaker 3: So he did. He did a really good job as well.

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Speaker 4: I never thought they would do that well after what

874
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 4: I saw at Oklahoma State so bad.

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00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 3: Ioways they're losing a lot of firepower.

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Speaker 1: So they lose Peterson, Ayala Kennedy and Caliendo, which are

877
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Speaker 1: kind of like the most consistent.

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Speaker 4: By the way, Calliendo is my favorite Hawkeye. I love

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Speaker 4: Michael Galliendo. He just finds a way to win. Bro

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00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 4: He just finds a way to get himself to the

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00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 4: finals over and over again. All right, Ben, it's been

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00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 4: a long one man. I gotta let you go, dude,

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00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 4: I can't do this ship no more, which you even

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00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 4: crazy guys for, Ben asked, I'm Daniel Cormier next time.